School shooting: Parkland, Florida

[monosylab1k]

*that moment when mono scrolls up and realizes he's an idiot. Priceless. :lol

For what? Conversing online with a shitty human being like you? Yeah, I guess that is idiotic.

[CosmicCowboy]

I’ll bet he wished even more that a mentally unstable 19 year old didn’t have one.

Wishing wouldnt stop the crazy 17 year old.

[Quadzilla99]

Wishing wouldnt stop the crazy 17 year old.
thats why we need laws

[CosmicCowboy]

thats why we need laws
:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, we should make murder illegal!

[rmt]

If I were a teacher, I'd prefer to be armed - better than being a sitting duck waiting for the cops or some coward outside the school (what's he doing outside the school) who won't engage - if he was inside, he'd have a vested interest in shooting back - his own skin.

[Pavlov]

If I were a teacher, I'd prefer to be armed - better than being a sitting duck waiting for the cops or some coward outside the school (what's he doing outside the school) who won't engage - if he was inside, he'd have a vested interest in shooting back - his own skin.Oh, where would you keep your gun?

[Chris]

If I were a teacher, I'd prefer to be armed - better than being a sitting duck waiting for the cops or some coward outside the school (what's he doing outside the school) who won't engage - if he was inside, he'd have a vested interest in shooting back - his own skin.

I'm sure a lot of teachers would be willing to give their lives to save their students, myself included.

[Pavlov]

I'm sure a lot of teachers would be willing to give their lives to save their students, myself included.What grade(s) do you teach?

[monosylab1k]

Ill bet that coach wished he had a gun.


Wishing wouldnt stop the crazy 17 year old.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, we should make murder illegal!

:lmao the whole “bad people break laws!” is maybe the most retarded part of this.

People still drive drunk, so get rid of all drunk driving laws!

People break speed limits so get rid of them!

People drive without a license or training so just let everyone drive with no restrictions!

People run red lights so fuck it, no traffic lights!

The only thing stopping a bad driver is a good driver!

[Spurtacular]

WHen you're retarded

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/21/conspiracy-theory-wont-end-enough-enough/360521002/

:lmao Trying to pass off that gimp sh** as anything. Your side got caught faking their asses off. Bitch be a globetrotter, too.

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2015/10/same-girl-manchester-crisis-actor.jpg

[rmt]

Oh, where would you keep your gun?

I am sure that the school districts can part with some of their funds from their cushy pensions to put one of those safes advertised on TV (quickly accessed by iirc fingerprints/palms?) in my class room. I happen to know from experience just how cheaply kids can be educated - it doesn't take much - certainly nowhere near over $11k each. A huge amount of education money goes towards employees' healthcare and pensions.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao the whole “bad people break laws!” is maybe the most retarded part of this.

People still drive drunk, so get rid of all drunk driving laws!

People break speed limits so get rid of them!

People drive without a license or training so just let everyone drive with no restrictions!

People run red lights so fuck it, no traffic lights!

The only thing stopping a bad driver is a good driver!

You are the one thats retarded.

Who was advocating doing away with murder laws?

[CosmicCowboy]

Newsflash snowflake. Bad people break the law.

[Chris]

What grade(s) do you teach?


You're getting quite personal here.

Why do you ask?

What's the gun for Pavlov?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/xUA7aTaAgUK1qcv1WE/giphy.gif

[TSA]

:rollin

[monosylab1k]

Newsflash snowflake. Bad people break the law.

Newsflash snowflake, laws still work despite that.

[DMC]

The 1st Amendment will go away before the 2nd.

This is inevitable because it can be eroded inconspicuously, without need for a warrant. Unlike gun manufacturers who won't sacrifice profits for political capitol with a party who isn't even in power, tech giants will bend to the will of the left and will censor their customers. You will have the truth taken from you in the name of "honest media". Trolling you will be much easier as your comments can simply be removed by making them more sensational.

[Quadzilla99]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, we should make murder illegal!

You cannot possibly be this dense

[hater]

:lmao shithole country

Pennsylvania pastor says Jesus will come back to earth with an AR 15 :lmao

One Pennsylvania congregation is taking its Christian faith in less of a “Jesus take the wheel” direction and adopting more of a “Christ, cover me while I reload” approach.

http://www.newsweek.com/ar-15-church-blessing-pennsylvania-815013


"And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father," reads Revelation 2:27 in the King James Version of the Bible. It seems like the pretty standard end-of-days type liturgy you might expect from the Holy Book's final chapter, but to Sanctuary Church and Rod of Iron Ministries' Tim Elder, "This rod of iron is the AR-15, in today's terms."


:lmao

[hater]

Church leaders expect over 600 people to attend the blessing next Wednesday morning, in which worshipers have been asked to bring their own AR-15 gun, or, as the church refers to the weapons, the "rod of iron."

:lol

[SpursforSix]

Lol at the thought of being so advanced to pull off a conspiracy involving multiple school shootings.

But using the same actors.

[Isitjustme?]

Lol at the thought of being so advanced to pull off a conspiracy involving multiple school shootings.

But using the same actors.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

I am sure that the school districts can part with some of their funds from their cushy pensions to put one of those safes advertised on TV (quickly accessed by iirc fingerprints/palms?) in my class room. I happen to know from experience just how cheaply kids can be educated - it doesn't take much - certainly nowhere near over $11k each. A huge amount of education money goes towards employees' healthcare and pensions.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.htmlYes, those fatcat teachers need to kill for their students.

[Blake]

I am sure that the school districts can part with some of their funds from their cushy pensions to put one of those safes advertised on TV (quickly accessed by iirc fingerprints/palms?) in my class room. I happen to know from experience just how cheaply kids can be educated - it doesn't take much - certainly nowhere near over $11k each. A huge amount of education money goes towards employees' healthcare and pensions.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html

Lol as seen on TV

[pgardn]

rmt

You taught your kids algebra and that got them ahead because you are so good.
Wanna try a problem I just saw (tutoring a kid in AP C calculus based physics) that he could not do because of not enough tools in the algebra toolbox?

Its an important Subject (algebra) I believe. You gotta be good, I learned this in public school. Mrs. Morton. She taught many kids this subject, not just her kids. And while you are at it, there is a kid from Somalia that you must teach. And one that is just slow, and one that gets beaten at home. Give it a shot?

[Chris]

Tuck all over it


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[Chris]

966846679784837120


https://media0.giphy.com/media/8Q6CvQNUyNI64/giphy.gif

[hater]

:lmao cnn

Cant believe they even fuck this one up

It was a fucking softball :lmao

Jesus what a shit network

[Chris]

966839787368968194

[Chris]

966844218579791873

[AaronY]

Tuck all over it


966849273496301570

Lol you were so skeptical of the other kids but not this one.

[DMC]

Tuck all over it


966849273496301570

If you've ever written an article for someone like CNN, or if you've been interviewed in a "sit down" fashion, you probably got edited and your words changed, or told what not to say.

I wrote an article for Time Magazine and it got edited to some shit I didn't say or mean. I never submitted another one afterward.

By the way, no kid says "at 5:15 I made contact with her". That's coached.

And for Christ's sake, teach kids to stop saying "had asked" or "had seen". It's annoying.

[Chris]

If you've ever written an article for someone like CNN, or if you've been interviewed in a "sit down" fashion, you probably got edited and your words changed, or told what not to say.

I wrote an article for Time Magazine and it got edited to some shit I didn't say or mean. I never submitted another one afterward.

By the way, no kid says "at 5:15 I made contact with her". That's coached.

And for Christ's sake, teach kids to stop saying "had asked" or "had seen". It's annoying.

Check out Hogg rehearsing his lines.

SQm4phYcZog

[AaronY]

Check out Hogg rehearsing his lines.

SQm4phYcZog

This is the kid you proved by his Facebook feed was a liberal anti-gun guy in 2017 well before any of this already?

[Chris]

This is the kid you proved by his Facebook feed was a liberal anti-gun guy in 2017 well before any of this already?

He went to California the summer before this, and was on local news. Guessing he got 'scouted' by CNN. Not sure about his stance on guns in 2017 tbh but I do know his dad was in the FBI.

pngspOODMLI

Could be a crisis actor. Definitely coached.

[TSA]

966854507744374784

brutal

[DMX7]

Little Marco got destroyed last night at the CNN Townhall. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Little Marco got destroyed last night at the CNN Townhall. :lol

I won't even give him credit for courage to show, while gov Dickless Scott no showed. Rubio is fucking naive to think he could face that crowd and come out at least break even, stupid. a disgrace to CAs, totally unprepared to face that crowd.

CNN’s Town Hall on Guns and the Unmaking of Marco Rubio

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/cnns-town-hall-on-guns-and-the-unmaking-of-marco-rubio?mbid=nl_Daily%20022218&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12987725&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1342038135&spReportId=MTM0MjAzODEzNQS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/cnns-town-hall-on-guns-and-the-unmaking-of-marco-rubio?mbid=nl_Daily%20022218&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12987725&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1342038135&spReportId=MTM0MjAzODEzNQS2)

[monosylab1k]

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[Spurminator]

I mean, no one said anything about arming the black teachers, be reasonable here.

[Spurminator]

It's amazing how desperate the NRA and their internet soldierboys have gotten over the past week. They shook as fuck. Going after kids now. Unreal.

[monosylab1k]

It's amazing how desperate the NRA and their internet soldierboys have gotten over the past week. They shook as fuck. Going after kids now. Unreal.

Pretty cool that the “lazy, entitled, Tide Pod eating, socially inept, degenerate youth” are the ones stepping up and kicking the shit out of those snowflakes.

[AaronY]

He went to California the summer before this, and was on local news. Guessing he got 'scouted' by CNN. Not sure about his stance on guns in 2017 tbh but I do know his dad was in the FBI.

pngspOODMLI

Could be a crisis actor. Definitely coached.
He probably "coached" himself. His fb feed shows hes probably a libtard like boutons and was thinking of lines he wanted to say. Makes sense he would practice what he's going to say before he goes on the air. If he's the one who equated the shooter with Rubio then he's a little shithead because I thought that was way out of line

[AaronY]

966449515568939008
Dana Loesch aka Ms. Gun Rights for everyone has some pretty sweet takes on that one if you look it up

[monosylab1k]

He went to California the summer before this, and was on local news. Guessing he got 'scouted' by CNN. Not sure about his stance on guns in 2017 tbh but I do know his dad was in the FBI.

pngspOODMLI

Could be a crisis actor. Definitely coached.

HE WENT TO THE FUCKING SCHOOL. IT’S BEEN PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT ALREADY, YOU STUPID, STUPID MOTHERFUCKER.

[DMX7]

The only crisis actor was Marco Rubio last night. :lol

[DMX7]

I won't even give him credit for courage to show, while gov Dickless Scott no showed. Rubio is fucking naive to think he could face that crowd and come out at least break even, stupid. a disgrace to CAs, totally unprepared to face that crowd.

CNN’s Town Hall on Guns and the Unmaking of Marco Rubio

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/cnns-town-hall-on-guns-and-the-unmaking-of-marco-rubio?mbid=nl_Daily%20022218&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12987725&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1342038135&spReportId=MTM0MjAzODEzNQS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/cnns-town-hall-on-guns-and-the-unmaking-of-marco-rubio?mbid=nl_Daily%20022218&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12987725&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1342038135&spReportId=MTM0MjAzODEzNQS2)










Nor will I. He humiliated himself and thought he was going to get a pass and kudos just for showing up. As was mentioned in that New Yorker article, he started repeating himself nervously... surprised he didn't start reaching for a bottle of water off camera. :lol

[Chris]

He probably "coached" himself. His fb feed shows hes probably a libtard like boutons and was thinking of lines he wanted to say. Makes sense he would practice what he's going to say before he goes on the air. If he's the one who equated the shooter with Rubio then he's a little shithead because I thought that was way out of line

Pretty disrespectful imo concerning Rubio considering the NRA has nothing to do with it. The local police and the FBI are to blame here along with State for not providing additional security which I believe was requested specifically for that school beforehand. The trained seals and autistic screeching was pretty cringe tbh

I will agree Hogg probably coached himself with a little help and scriptwriting/editing from CNN. His posts are so boutons though, it's almost hard to believe one could be so passionate about those issues at his age without someone holding his hand.

[Chris]

https://media.tenor.com/images/d6c0c7833b16d17b10839cc44ed4f331/tenor.gif

[boutons_deux]

First National Bank of Omaha to halt production of NRA credit card

http://c-8oqtgrjgwu46x24yyyx2evtdkoix2eeqo.g00.chicagotribu ne.com/g00/3_c-8yyy.ejkeciqvtkdwpg.eqo_/c-8OQTGRJGWU46x24jvvrx3ax2fx2fyyy.vtdkoi.eqox2fkoi-7c0h5730x2fvwtdkpgx2fev-3731556895-lc741vw5vd-upcr-kocigx2f972x2f972z644x3fk32e.octmx3dkocig_$/$/$/$/$/$http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-first-national-bank-nra-credit-card-20180222-story.html

[DMC]

Pretty disrespectful imo concerning Rubio considering the NRA has nothing to do with it. The local police and the FBI are to blame here along with State for not providing additional security which I believe was requested specifically for that school beforehand. The trained seals and autistic screeching was pretty cringe tbh

I will agree Hogg probably coached himself with a little help and scriptwriting/editing from CNN. His posts are so boutons though, it's almost hard to believe one could be so passionate about those issues at his age without someone holding his hand.

The deputy on the scene didn't even enter the building while it was happening. He just took up a defensive position and waited it out. That's how it goes with 'bout to retire folks.

[Pelicans78]

http://www.businessinsider.com/parkland-shooting-officer-resigns-deputies-sent-to-protect-his-family-2018-2


The deputy on the scene didn't even enter the building while it was happening. He just took up a defensive position and waited it out. That's how it goes with 'bout to retire folks.

Now the asshole has armed officers protecting his house.

[CosmicCowboy]

I mean, no one said anything about arming the black teachers, be reasonable here.
Its hard to pass the marksmanship part of the cc permit holding your 9 sideways. :lol

[boutons_deux]

"It"s hard" to expect an old fat guy, Walmart greeter level, making $25K/year to be fit and alert enough to be ready to risk his life going after much better armed killer.

[Trill Clinton]

Its hard to pass the marksmanship part of the cc permit holding your 9 sideways. :lol
Take this corny, lame, unfunny racist joke back to the 90's.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol trillbait.

[Trill Clinton]

Ahh you posted that to bait me. You love me lol

[boutons_deux]

"holding your 9 sideways."

another racist failed joke from racist CosmicParasite

[boutons_deux]

the teachet's Trolley Problem: "Do I kill one or two kids with my wild-assed, panicked shooting, or do I not "carry" and let 10 get killed?"

[boutons_deux]

Businesses Are Fleeing the NRA in Wake of Parkland School Shooting


The organization's reputation is becoming completely toxic.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/businesses-are-fleeing-nra-wake-parkland-school-shooting

NRA is only the marketing/propaganda whore for BigGun

Sturm Ruger says gun sales plunged

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/21/news/companies/sturm-ruger-guns/index.html

Electing a knitter was a huge sales boost for BigGun, cause the knitter was gonna confiscate all guns.

[The Gemini Method]

Take this corny, lame, unfunny racist joke back to the 90's. I was catching a documentary on the Rolling 60's and they were like "stupid crackers thinking we shoot sideways. That is some bullshit." Even saying there's no accuracy in shooting like that.

[baseline bum]

the teachet's Trolley Problem: "Do I kill one or two kids with my wild-assed, panicked shooting, or do I not "carry" and let 10 get killed?"

Easy. You let the ten get killed then you take out the other two after.

[Trill Clinton]

I was catching a documentary on the Rolling 60's and they were like "stupid crackers thinking we shoot sideways. That is some bullshit." Even saying there's no accuracy in shooting like that.
Can you link that doc? RSC has always been my favorite Crip set.

[Trill Clinton]

I hope that deputy commits that. Pussy ass stood by and let children get killed.

[rjv]

"It"s hard" to expect an old fat guy, Walmart greeter level, making $25K/year to be fit and alert enough to be ready to risk his life going after much better armed killer.

maybe he has bone spurs.

[clambake]

maybe he has bone spurs.
:lol

[RandomGuy]

Little Marco got destroyed last night at the CNN Townhall. :lol

Little Marco is gonna get his ass unelected. Between the blue wave, and the PR immigrants, the swing state is going to start tilting blue.

[RandomGuy]

I hope that deputy commits that. Pussy ass stood by and let children get killed.

Professional soldiers sometimes freeze up under fire. One of the things that puts yet another hole, as already noted by actual combat veterans, in the "teacher gun" shit idea.

Dude hesistated for a few minutes at the cost of kids lives. If you wish him ill, wish him a long life to live that down. I doubt the rest of his life will be pleasant, even if no one ever says anything to him about it.

The punisher in our mind is often the cruelest.

[RandomGuy]

Nor will I. He humiliated himself and thought he was going to get a pass and kudos just for showing up. As was mentioned in that New Yorker article, he started repeating himself nervously... surprised he didn't start reaching for a bottle of water off camera. :lol

Dude was lucky there weren't bucket of melted tar and feathers nearby... not that I would wish that on anyone, but those people were pissed.

[RandomGuy]

I am sure that the school districts can part with some of their funds from their cushy pensions to put one of those safes advertised on TV (quickly accessed by iirc fingerprints/palms?) in my class room. I happen to know from experience just how cheaply kids can be educated - it doesn't take much - certainly nowhere near over $11k each. A huge amount of education money goes towards employees' healthcare and pensions.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html

How much time do you want to spend on training every week/year? ... on top of all your other mandatory training and professional development?

Talk about all cost and no benefit.

[Trill Clinton]

Professional soldiers sometimes freeze up under fire. One of the things that puts yet another hole, as already noted by actual combat veterans, in the "teacher gun" shit idea.

Dude hesistated for a few minutes at the cost of kids lives. If you wish him ill, wish him a long life to live that down. I doubt the rest of his life will be pleasant, even if no one ever says anything to him about it.

The punisher in our mind is often the cruelest.

Where were the Rambo cops who shoot unarmed citizens? Will the police union come out and support this cop like they usually do?

[monosylab1k]

Lol trillbait.

“No no no guys, it’s okay! I was only being racist to bait someone! It’s cool!”

[spurraider21]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, we should make murder illegal!
if we made it legal, do you think the murder rate would go up, tbh?

[The Gemini Method]

Can you link that doc? RSC has always been my favorite Crip set. It's been a while. But i'll link you once I find it.

[monosylab1k]

if we made it legal, do you think the murder rate would go up, tbh?

It would go down due to fear of being murdered yourself. The only thing stopping a Bad Murderer is a Good Murderer.

[RandomGuy]

"We should change the name of AR-15s to "Marco Rubio", because they are so easy to buy."
-Sarah Chadwick, Parkland school shooting survivor


https://media.giphy.com/media/TnN8ei3cMolpu/giphy.gif

[monosylab1k]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWvFtFPUMAAoIo2.jpg

[RandomGuy]

"I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in all my life."

--Samantha Fuentes, a Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student who was shot in both legs during the attack carried out by 19-year-old gunman Nikolas Cruz last week, gave her account of the call [with president Trump]


Dang... Cadet Bone Spurs Hushmoney Golfenstein Pussygrabber Magee has met his match. :rollin

[DisAsTerBot]

Dang... Cadet Bone Spurs Hushmoney Golfenstein Pussygrabber Magee has met his match. :rollin

This is boutons level “trash” bad smh

[Mark Celibate]

"I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in all my life."

--Samantha Fuentes, a Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student who was shot in both legs during the attack carried out by 19-year-old gunman Nikolas Cruz last week, gave her account of the call [with president Trump]

Dang... Cadet Bone Spurs Hushmoney Golfenstein Pussygrabber Magee has met his match. :rollin
Wonder who told her to say that

[spurraider21]

Wonder who told her to say that
she gettin that soros money!

[koriwhat]

"I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in all my life."

--Samantha Fuentes, a Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student who was shot in both legs during the attack carried out by 19-year-old gunman Nikolas Cruz last week, gave her account of the call [with president Trump]


Dang... Cadet Bone Spurs Hushmoney Golfenstein Pussygrabber Magee has met his match. :rollin

sad she was shot but regardless of this situation wtf cares what any teenager has to say?

[clambake]

sad she was shot but regardless of this situation wtf cares what any teenager has to say?

they are there to be shot, not listened to.

[boutons_deux]

"Wait,There's More" -- Cousin Vinny

https://i2.wp.com/convertkit.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/pictures/48980/1098501/content_survivor_trump.jpg?w=900&ssl=1

Florida massacre survivor just spoke out about her phone call with Trump and it’s sickening


“He said he heard that I was a big fan of his, and

then he said, ‘I’m a big fan of yours too.’

I’m pretty sure he made that up,”

she said in an interview after being discharged from the hospital.

“Talking to the president, I’ve never been so unimpressed by a person in my life.

He didn’t make me feel better in the slightest.”

Ms. Fuentes, who was left with a piece of shrapnel lodged behind her right eye,

said Mr. Trump had called the gunman a “sick puppy” and

said “‘oh boy, oh boy, oh boy,’ like, seven times.”

http://washingtonpress.com/2018/02/23/florida-massacre-survivor-just-spoke-phone-call-trump-sickening/

[koriwhat]

they are there to be shot, not listened to.


not at all what i am suggesting... just saying wgaf what teenagers have to say, in general, but put in your own narrative if you're so inclined to do so.

[RandomGuy]

sad she was shot but regardless of this situation wtf cares what any teenager has to say?

Six Trillion fucking dollars cares what these teenagers have to say, bitch.


BlackRock Inc said it will speak with weapons manufacturers and distributors “to understand their response” to the second-deadliest shooting at a public school in U.S. history, putting pressure on companies such as Sturm Ruger & Company Inc and American Outdoor Brands Corp.

BlackRock is the largest shareholder in both gunmakers and has more than $6 trillion in assets under management.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-blackrock/blackrock-puts-gunmakers-on-notice-after-florida-school-shooting-idUSKCN1G62PC

:wow

This should have the NRA worried. Blackrock is not normally an activist shareholder.

[CosmicCowboy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWvFtFPUMAAoIo2.jpg

That Chris Kyle meme is Boutons level stupid.

[RandomGuy]

Looks like the people who own some of the gun companies feeding the NRA's trough will face their shareholders:


Both American Outdoor and Sturm Ruger for instance face shareholder resolutions calling for them to report on their efforts related to gun safety, according to a list of resolutions kept by the Interfaith Center for Corporate Responsibility. (same article as above)

[rjv]

sad she was shot but regardless of this situation wtf cares what any teenager has to say?

wtf cares what anyone has to say, nowadays?

[CosmicCowboy]

This will all blow over in a month if not sooner.

[Pavlov]

That Chris Kyle meme is Boutons level stupid.Agreed. Chris tried to cure that guy's PTSD with moar guns.

[koriwhat]

Six Trillion fucking dollars cares what these teenagers have to say, bitch.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-blackrock/blackrock-puts-gunmakers-on-notice-after-florida-school-shooting-idUSKCN1G62PC

:wow

This should have the NRA worried. Blackrock is not normally an activist shareholder.

damn you got me... again, taking my words out of context to fit your narrative. the last time i cared what any teenager had to say was when i was a teenager.


wtf cares what anyone has to say, nowadays?

indeed. :tu

[boutons_deux]

CosmicParasite just can't quit his emotional, intellectual superior, The Great Boutons

[RandomGuy]

This will all blow over in a month if not sooner.

Teenagers.

Social media.

You think a bunch of pissed off high-schoolers are going to stop tweeting, and sharing things with other teenagers?

https://teenlineonline.org/parents/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/teens-texting-640x396.jpg

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/v/g/0/x/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gvewgx.png/1491666659549.jpg

http://www.brophybroncos.org/roundup/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Cell-Phone-WEB-400x242.jpg

I'll believe that when I see it.

[hater]

This will all blow over in a month if not sooner.

See ya in a month. Enjoy your rock

[RandomGuy]

damn you got me... again, taking my words out of context to fit your narrative. the last time i cared what any teenager had to say was when i was a teenager.



indeed. :tu

$6,000,000,000,000

[koriwhat]

Teenagers.

Social media.

You think a bunch of pissed off high-schoolers are going to stop tweeting, and sharing things with other teenagers?

https://teenlineonline.org/parents/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/teens-texting-640x396.jpg

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/v/g/0/x/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gvewgx.png/1491666659549.jpg

http://www.brophybroncos.org/roundup/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Cell-Phone-WEB-400x242.jpg

I'll believe that when I see it.

pissed off... lmao most don't even give this last incident a second thought. they're off playing pokemon and whatnot the next second.

[spurraider21]

pissed off... lmao most don't even give this last incident a second thought. they're off playing pokemon and whatnot the next second.
or smoking shitty weed and getting new calf tats

[koriwhat]

$6,000,000,000,000

idgaf about that number tbh.

[koriwhat]

or smoking shitty weed and getting new calf tats

yall just can't help yourselves huh? can't ever stay on topic. i try but then i feel the need to reply to yours and other trolls bs.

shitty weed and calf tats huh? that's the best you got? fucking parrot. keep following because you're not a leader.

[CosmicCowboy]

Agreed. Chris tried to cure that guy's PTSD with moar guns.

He was also unarmed and shot in the back, shit for brains.

[RandomGuy]

pissed off... lmao most don't even give this last incident a second thought. they're off playing pokemon and whatnot the next second.

I will be sure to tell them you said that.

Keep it up. As a Democrat, I strongly encourage you to talk smack about kids. You fuckers aren't gonna know what hit you in a few years. :rollin

[Chris]

damn you got me... again, taking my words out of context to fit your narrative. the last time i cared what any teenager had to say was when i was a teenager.

You're wasting your time with that one. Pure troll.

[koriwhat]

I will be sure to tell them you said that.

Keep it up. As a Democrat, I strongly encourage you to talk smack about kids. You fuckers aren't gonna know what hit you in a few years. :rollin

too funny... you're directing your bs to the wrong person. i'm not going to give a shit what happens in a few yrs let alone later today. jokes on you fool!

btw, who's talking smack about kids? you chasing some sort of mythical scenario in your make believe world within your lonely head is nothing short of a couple lol's.

[Chris]

967084905543827459

[Chris]

966898339139616768

[CosmicCowboy]

You snowflakes are delusional. This shit will blow over. They might do some token gun control like outlawing bump stocks and some loonie background checks but thats it.

[koriwhat]

You're wasting your time with that one. Pure troll.

did i miss something or did ST turn into a safe space where only a few of us don't subscribe to the hive mentality? is as if all these SJW's here forgot all the "faggots", "tranny", etc slurs they used to blast here daily and now are all little angels fighting for the greater cause of some make believe utopia. what a bunch of fakes just like the party they affiliate themselves with.

[hater]

You snowflakes are delusional. This shit will blow over. They might do some token gun control like outlawing bump stocks and some loonie background checks but thats it.

Lol nobody aint gonna do a goddam shit while GOP in control

It wont blow over cause the next shooting is most likely to happen within a month

[pgardn]

idgaf about that number tbh.

How about 6 X 10^12 ?

[Chucho]

Teenagers.

Social media.

You think a bunch of pissed off high-schoolers are going to stop tweeting, and sharing things with other teenagers?

https://teenlineonline.org/parents/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/teens-texting-640x396.jpg

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/v/g/0/x/4/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gvewgx.png/1491666659549.jpg

http://www.brophybroncos.org/roundup/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Cell-Phone-WEB-400x242.jpg

I'll believe that when I see it.


Social media is a major reason this generation is birthing so many loons.

[Chucho]

967084905543827459

There's truth to this.

[koriwhat]

How about 6 X 10^12 ?

fuck your numbers!

[koriwhat]

Social media is a major reason this generation is birthing so many loons.


:tu

[spurraider21]

967084905543827459
guns aren't evil. they enable evil.

[koriwhat]

guns aren't evil. they enable evil.

so do hands, legs, cars, sticks, batons, tylenol, etc.... lmao!

[Chris]

guns aren't evil. they enable evil.

By that logic, any weapon enables evil. Let's ban all weapons.

[hater]

Social media is a major reason this generation is birthing so many loons.

Social media evil

Guns no evil

Got it

[Pavlov]

He was also unarmed and shot in the back, shit for brains.He was armed -- he had just given the guy who shot him his own gun. Should've had moar guns.

[Chucho]

Social media evil

Guns no evil

Got it


You're an idiot. Got it.

[CosmicCowboy]

He was armed -- he had just given the guy who shot him his own gun. Should've had moar guns.

That makes no sense. How could he have been armed if he didnt have a gun and was shot in the back. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

[Chris]

966885561775489033

[spurraider21]

so do hands, legs, cars, sticks, batons, tylenol, etc.... lmao!
so then ask yourself and give an honest answer of why you think most murders in the US happen with guns, and not sticks, tylenol, or hot coffee

By that logic, any weapon enables evil. Let's ban all weapons.
sure. but guns do so incredibly effectively, to a point where in this country their negatives outweigh the positives. the amount of justified homicides that we have using guns are incredibly negligible compared to their criminal use.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWhovbeUQAA7NNq.jpg:large

[spurraider21]

That makes no sense. How could he have been armed if he didnt have a gun and was shot in the back. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

On February 2, 2013, Kyle and his friend, Chad Littlefield, 35, were shot and killed by Eddie Ray Routh at the Rough Creek Ranch-Lodge-Resort shooting range (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_range) in Erath County, Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erath_County,_Texas).[48] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kyle#cite_note-48) Both Kyle and Littlefield were armed with .45-caliber 1911-style pistols when they were killed, but neither gun had been unholstered or fired, and the safety catches were still on. Kyle was killed with a .45-caliber pistol, while Littlefield was shot with a 9mm SIG Sauer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer) pistol. Both guns belonged to Kyle.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kyle#cite_note-Washington_Post_2015-02-13-9)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kyle#Death

[Chris]

.

[Chris]

to a point where in this country their negatives outweigh the positives.

Got any stats to back that up?

[CosmicCowboy]

Ok, didnt have a gun in his hand and was shot by surprise in the back.

The meme is still idiotic.

[spurraider21]

Ok, didnt have a gun in his hand and was shot by surprise in the back.

The meme is still idiotic.
by his own gun

[spurraider21]

Got any stats to back that up?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/?utm_term=.d9e01abeee22


In 2012, there were 8,855 criminal gun homicides (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2008-2012.xls) in the FBI's homicide database, but only 258 gun killings by private citizens that were deemed justifiable (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_15_justifiable_homici de_by_weapon_private_citizen_2008-2012.xls), which the FBI defines as "the killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private citizen."

That works out to one justifiable gun death for every 34 unjustifiable gun deaths.

[Pavlov]

That makes no sense. How could he have been armed if he didnt have a gun and was shot in the back. Just admit you were wrong and move on.SR beat me to it.

[CosmicCowboy]

by his own gun

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The meme was ridiculous.

[spurraider21]

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The meme was ridiculous.
it has to do with the claim that he was unarmed

i agree the meme was ridiculous

[Pavlov]

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The meme was ridiculous.I agreed the meme was stupid. Kyle's death is proof moar guns isn't the go-to answer you want it to be.

[CosmicCowboy]

SR beat me to it.

I corrected that he had a safed gun in a holster and was shot in the back without warning.

The meme is still idiotic.

[hater]

Im an idiot.

Got it

[Chris]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/?utm_term=.d9e01abeee22

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Why is an article from 2015 cherry picking stats from 2012?

[Pavlov]

I corrected that he had a safed gun in a holster and was shot in the back without warning.So you were wrong and I was right.


The meme is still idiotic.Since I already agreed with that, I don't know why you keep going on about it.

[spurraider21]

Why is an article from 2015 cherry picking stats from 2012?
is it your claim that 2012 is an outlier and that justified homicides typically rival if not surpass the amount of unjustified deaths?

[koriwhat]

so then ask yourself and give an honest answer of why you think most murders in the US happen with guns, and not sticks, tylenol, or hot coffee

sure. but guns do so incredibly effectively, to a point where in this country their negatives outweigh the positives. the amount of justified homicides that we have using guns are incredibly negligible compared to their criminal use.

must suck to be scared constantly.

[Trill Clinton]

Blue lives matter

967151683062157314

[Chris]

is it your claim that 2012 is an outlier and that justified homicides typically rival if not surpass the amount of unjustified deaths?

I'm claiming that they were more than likely cherry picking stats to construct an anti-gun narrative. I'm also claiming that disarming the public will only enable the criminal. No one has been able to dispute that yet.

[koriwhat]

Blue lives matter

967151683062157314

we all know we don't have the best nor the brightest people in uniform. some, yes but most, no.

[spurraider21]

Chris

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

when it comes to justified homicides with guns, 272 in 2015, 276 in 2016

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

when it comes to murders using guns, 9,778 in 2015, 11,004 in 2016

[Chucho]

Got it


LOL, white flag. No need to explain why you're original post totally whiffed and missed my point beyond "you're an idiot".

[pgardn]

fuck your numbers!

Hey, hey now!

What about the X and the ^

[spurraider21]

must suck to be scared constantly.

i'm not. i just see an obviously flawed policy and am pointing out that it can probably be improved


I'm claiming that they were more than likely cherry picking stats to construct an anti-gun narrative. I'm also claiming that disarming the public will only enable the criminal. No one has been able to dispute that yet.
it was a 1:34 ratio in the "cherry picked" 2012 sample

1:36 in 2015 and 1:40 in 2016

looks like if anything they cherry picked the numbers to weaken the anti-gun narrative (if you claim they cherry picked data in the first place)

[DisAsTerBot]

must suck to be scared constantly.

Says the side clinging to their guns

[koriwhat]

Hey, hey now!

What about the X and the ^


lol :tu

[koriwhat]

Says the side clinging to their guns

i don't own a gun atm. however, i don't agree they should be banned/outlawed. it's just ridiculous.

[Chris]

Chris

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

when it comes to justified homicides with guns, 272 in 2015, 276 in 2016

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

when it comes to murders using guns, 9,778 in 2015, 11,004 in 2016

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh

[spurraider21]

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"

[RandomGuy]

Social media is a major reason this generation is birthing so many loons.

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

[spurraider21]

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh
that's a good question. but then we should also look at all the good guys that got shot but didn't die (scalise, etc).

just given the stats on the killings, pretty hard-pressed to believe we'd find the polar opposite results in non-lethal shootings tbh :lol

[Spurminator]

Says the side clinging to their guns

[koriwhat]

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?

[RandomGuy]

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh

:cry do my work form me :cry

[spurraider21]

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?
none of them tbh

all are border jumpers 100%

[RandomGuy]

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?

:cry do my work for me :cry


What a bunch of entitled whiners.

[CosmicCowboy]

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"
Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a constitution.

[hater]

LOL, white flag. No need to explain why you're original post totally whiffed and missed my point beyond "you're an idiot".

Thats all you said tbqh. That you are an idiot.

Gotcha

[Pavlov]

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?:lol

[spurraider21]

Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a constitution.
except i've never advocated for mandatory confiscation of all guns.

we had a federal ban on "assault weapons" for a while, that wasn't deemed unconstitutional

[Spurminator]

Love discussing hypotheticals about preventing gun massacres when we have actual examples of effective policy instituted in other developed countries.

[koriwhat]

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

i don't think anyone thinks that... i don't know much about that incident but i have read some of the theories. crisis actors? who knows... who really fucking knows what bigGov hides from us. we all speculate but if you want to believe in bigGov 110% then go for it.

[Pavlov]

i don't think anyone thinks that... i don't know much about that incident but i have read some of the theories. crisis actors? who knows... who really fucking knows what bigGov hides from us. we all speculate but if you want to believe in bigGov 110% then go for it.Do a search for "crisis actor" in this forum.

[CosmicCowboy]

except i've never advocated for mandatory confiscation of all guns.

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?

[Chucho]

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

Yeah, I didn't say that. My stance was how it was logistically impossible for twig boy to get off all the firing in that amount of time. So, yeah, stick to your Trump Boogeyman and advocating no personal accountability.

[Pavlov]

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?Which guns did he say he was going to take in the first place?

[CosmicCowboy]

Which guns did he say he was going to take in the first place?
It was a generic "you guys" for the anti gun crowd.
So chump, which guns do you want to ban?

[koriwhat]

So chump, which guns do you want to ban?

all of them would be the answer. the dems would love to outlaw them all right away but baby steps always lead to the end game. and the dems have a cult that follows their every word regardless. baaa baaa baaa baaa

[spurraider21]

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?
a handgun ban would not pass, thanks to Heller and McDonald, so that's a moot point unless public opinion becomes so one sided that SCOTUS will bend. don't see that happening tbh. besides, i dont think i would support a universal gun ban even if there was no 2nd amendment

best we could do is ramp regulations, rather than outright bans.

i think the big issue is the sheer availability of guns in the US. we have more per capita than anywhere. nobody even comes close. i would like the idea of having a voluntary gun buyback program, sorta like cash for clunkers. and have the govt destroy those weapons (or sell them to ISIS. jk). find a way to slow production. expanded background checks, mandatory training, and regular mental health evaluations. limit how many rounds a non-vendor can own, etc.

[Pavlov]

It was a generic "you guys" for the anti gun crowd.
So chump, which guns do you want to ban?I understand you're mad about being so completely wrong about Chris Kyle, but building straw men isn't the best way to deal with it.

[Pavlov]

all of them would be the answer. the dems would love to outlaw them all right away but baby steps always lead to the end game. and the dems have a cult that follows their every word regardless. baaa baaa baaa baaahttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/f1/b1/c2f1b174649db102162a22240c55b372.jpg

[CosmicCowboy]

I understand you're mad about being so completely wrong about Chris Kyle, but building straw men isn't the best way to deal with it.
LOL mad? You flatter yourself dumbass.

And I asked you a simple question. Its a shame you are too big of a pussy to answer it.

[Pavlov]

LOL mad? You flatter yourself dumbass.You were the one who was completely wrong, so who's really the dumbass?


And I asked you a simple question. Its a shame you are too big of a pussy to answer it.I've already answered this question.

The answer is none.

[Chucho]

Chris Kyle was a liar and a fraud. Sucks that his wife is being dragged through court for defamation, but what can you do when your husband lied about a great man like Jesse Ventura.

[DisAsTerBot]

i don't own a gun atm. however, i don't agree they should be banned/outlawed. it's just ridiculous.

I do own guns. Several. That’s why you’re ridiculous. Making changes to gun laws doesn’t equal gun ban.

[DisAsTerBot]

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?

No. The goal is to help reduce mass shootings. Got any other talking points that no one is bringing up?

[DMC]

maybe he has bone spurs.

Tendinopathy of the quads tbh

[RandomGuy]

Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a constitution.


If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn’t be any such thing as the Second Amendment . . . . This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.

I guess if you are into fraud.

Feel free to draw the line from "well regulated militia" to "unlimited right to own guns".

[baseline bum]

Wonder who told her to say that

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/617/jew_basic.jpg

??

[koriwhat]

I do own guns. Several. That’s why you’re ridiculous. Making changes to gun laws doesn’t equal gun ban.

have i once stated that changes to gun laws equate to an all out ban of guns? don't think so... i just see a spade for a spade and the slippery slope is in front of our faces.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, I didn't say that. My stance was how it was logistically impossible for twig boy to get off all the firing in that amount of time. So, yeah, stick to your Trump Boogeyman and advocating no personal accountability.

Obviously it was. You are wrong, and the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing reality, it doesn't give a shit what you think. It just is.

[RandomGuy]

This shit will blow over.

Until the next school shooting that is.

How many dead children will it take for this to be a problem you think should address without ruling out some option because of some worship of a chunk of metal?

[DMC]

a handgun ban would not pass, thanks to Heller and McDonald, so that's a moot point unless public opinion becomes so one sided that SCOTUS will bend. don't see that happening tbh. besides, i dont think i would support a universal gun ban even if there was no 2nd amendment

best we could do is ramp regulations, rather than outright bans.

i think the big issue is the sheer availability of guns in the US. we have more per capita than anywhere. nobody even comes close. i would like the idea of having a voluntary gun buyback program, sorta like cash for clunkers. and have the govt destroy those weapons (or sell them to ISIS. jk). find a way to slow production. expanded background checks, mandatory training, and regular mental health evaluations. limit how many rounds a non-vendor can own, etc.

These kinds of discussions always get weighed down with facts while most of the participants aren't interested in those.

[Chucho]

Obviously it was. You are wrong, and the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing reality, it doesn't give a shit what you think. It just is.

Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a shit that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.

[DisAsTerBot]

have i once stated that changes to gun laws equate to an all out ban of guns? don't think so... i just see a spade for a spade and the slippery slope is in front of our faces.

So any change equals slippery slope to all out ban? You just said Dems want to ban all guns like 5 posts up

[RandomGuy]

"If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn’t be any such thing as the Second Amendment . . . . This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

--Fully agree.

Maybe we should stick to its original intent. Everybody should be able to have as many muzzle-loading muskets as they want to.

LORVfnFtcH0

[RandomGuy]

Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a shit that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.

jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

That is the ground you want to die on?

[RandomGuy]

Lol Chucho being a conspiracy nut


But there’s an understandable answer here as well. A few days after the attack, clarity surrounding the guns finally emerged. Lanza left a shotgun in the car, but he had three other weapons that were brought into the school – a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm (the latter two are handguns). The fourth weapon – the shotgun – was left in the vehicle’s trunk. Carver was correct in making his claim that it was the AR-15 that was responsible for the children’s deaths – a firearm that was not in the trunk as the first video indicates (CNN actually has a great primer on the weapons that expounds upon this in detail).

Looks like he di have the tools to do what he did.

Not sure what the confusion is.

[Pavlov]

jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

That is the ground you want to die on?Hold on.

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_gifs/slamming-on-the-brakes.gif

Chucho believes there was a second gunman or what?

[Chucho]

jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

That is the ground you want to die on?
More words in the mouth. I'm telling you how wrong you were.

[RandomGuy]

Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a shit that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.

Bit of a strawman.

At the moment, there isn't really conclusive evidence of any meaningful collusion between Trump campaign and Russia.

Some definite dumbassery, and I hate to agree with Bannon on anything.

Sorry.

Russia did try to fuck with the election, and Trump ain't doing shit about that. I DO think that Trump is more likely than not in Putin's pocket, but would be more than happy to drop that like a hot potato, if Trump would fucking show some spine and stand up to Putin.

At some level I think Trumps servile behavior towards Trump will be pretty obvious to everybody. Trump will not be president forever.

[Blake]

967084905543827459

Fake

[RandomGuy]

More words in the mouth. I'm telling you how wrong you were.

Feel free to flesh that stupidity out.

What really happened?

(fires up eyerolling/facepalm memes)

[Chucho]

Feel free to flesh that stupidity out.

What really happened?

(fires up eyerolling/facepalm memes)

Tell me about your President colluding with the Rooskies, big guy.

[koriwhat]

So any change equals slippery slope to all out ban? You just said Dems want to ban all guns like 5 posts up

not any change exactly... get down to the facts first before proclaiming guns are the culprit. there's a lot of balls dropped not only on this incident but many many more. our PD & FBI aren't the brightest nor the bravest from what i see.

[Chris]

Love discussing hypotheticals about preventing gun massacres when we have actual examples of effective policy instituted in other developed countries.

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"



Switzerland is Europe's gun capital. It has more firepower per person than any other country in the world yet it is said to be one of the safest places on Earth.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

Tell me about your President colluding with the Rooskies, big guy.

Already done. See post 1448

(edit)
(altnernately I fleshed out the publicly available circumstantial evidence showing Trump is acting in a manner consistent with being compromised)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=707&p=9287376&viewfull=1#post9287376
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If you want to walk back the Sandy Hook "couldn't have happened the way THEY say it did", that's fine.

[Spurminator]

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"




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Don't @ me, piece of shit. You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.

[Chucho]

Already done. See post 1448

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(altnernately I fleshed out the publicly available circumstantial evidence showing Trump is acting in a manner consistent with being compromised)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=707&p=9287376&viewfull=1#post9287376
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If you want to walk back the Sandy Hook "couldn't have happened the way THEY say it did", that's fine.

But you're wrong.

[Pavlov]

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"




https://media2.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gifWhere do they keep the ammo in Switzerland, Chris?

[Chris]

Don't @ me, piece of shit. You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

[Chucho]

Don't @ me, piece of shit. You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.


We aren't comparable to the Swiss. We are 60 times larger and have more unemployed, non contributors than the entire population of that country. We couldn't bare their tax rates, work ethic or nationalism.

[RandomGuy]

But you're wrong.

about there not being any substantive evidence of collusion yet? or you being too stupid to fall for conspiracy theories?

[Chris]

Second person accuses CNN of trying to direct the narrative at gun town hall



"The producer insinuated to me they were looking for people to espouse a certain narrative, which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate. And I read that as being a gun control debate," Andrew Klein, whose daughter survived the school shooting, said.



The father of a survivor of last week's school shooting in Parkland, Fla., said Thursday night that a CNN producer “insinuated” to him that the network was looking for people to interview that would “espouse a certain narrative."

Andrew Klein, whose daughter survived the school shooting, told Laura Ingraham on Fox News Thursday that he spoke to a CNN producer the day after the shooting, Feb. 15., and he took away from the conversation that they wanted to interview people that wanted to talk about the “policy implications of what happened in terms of preventing future mass shootings.”

Although he said the producer never mention talking about guns in particular, he did feel they were trying to only present one side of the debate.

“The producer insinuated to me they were looking for people to espouse a certain narrative, which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate. And I read that as being a gun control debate,” Klein said.

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This marks the second time a person with ties to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School has said CNN tried to direct the narrative of the shootings’ coverage.

The first case, a student claimed CNN provided him with a scripted question to ask during Wednesday’s town hall instead of letting him ask his own question. CNN denied that claim.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/second-person-accuses-cnn-of-trying-to-direct-the-narrative-at-gun-town-hall/article/2649903

[Reck]

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

LOL driver by posting.

[Pavlov]

"insinuated"

wow

[Reck]

Jake Tapper then did a terrible job because he kept reminding everybody this was a discussion, not a debate and to get back on track. :lol

[monosylab1k]

I corrected that he had a safed gun in a holster and was shot in the back without warning.

The meme is still idiotic.

:lmao whiny bitchass snowflake triggered by a meme. Amazing you never say shit when Chris posts one.

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao whiny bitchass snowflake triggered by a meme. Amazing you never say shit when Chris posts one.

:lol

[Spurminator]

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

Your post was a rebuttal to a point I never made. Again, we all know you lack the capacity for the intellectual back-and-forth required to have a productive conversation about these topics. That's probably why you're susceptible to retarded conspiracy theories. God bless.

[Chris]

Jake Tapper then did a terrible job because he kept reminding everybody this was a discussion, not a debate and to get back on track. :lol


He did do a terrible job. I agree.




CNN, Jake Tapper Face Growing Criticism Over ‘Abusive’ Anti-Gun ‘Show Trial’



CNN’s anti-gun town hall event and its left-wing moderator, Jake Tapper, are facing widespread criticism over what many saw as a bullying “show trial.”
Tapper is being singled out for much of the criticism from those who say he remained silent as abusive personal attacks were hurled at Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch. Incredibly, Tapper also remained silent as his audience booed a rape victim.

At the Wednesday night spectacle, those in favor of protecting our Second Amendment civil rights were vastly outnumbered by an audience packed with hostile gun-haters and emotional questioners, including children.

According to various reports, the anti-gun participants were given scripted questions crafted by CNN. The last-place network has denied this by attacking a school shooting victim as a liar. His accusation, however, is credible given CNN’s long and disturbing history of using plants.

Throughout the hour, the audience heckled, howled, and poured derision on Loesch and Rubio. Other than admonishing his audience for calling Loesch a “murderer,” Tapper stood by in silent approval as abuse and personal attacks rained down on his outnumbered guests.

The Media Research Center writes, “Jake Tapper sat back as the wild crowd targeted … Rubio with boos and jeers… The wildest moment allowed by Tapper was when Parkland, Florida student Cameron Kasky smeared the Senator by equating him to the shooter that killed 17 of his classmates. And Tapper thanked him for all of it.”

Specifically, this is what Kasky snarled at Rubio, “Senator Rubio, it’s hard to look at you and not look down the barrel on an AR-15 and not look at Nikolas Cruz[.]”

Tapper then thanked Kasky.

Actor Adam Baldwin was one of many who compared the event to a “show trial.”

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Tapper faced even more intense criticism for allowing the 17-year-old Kasky to bring Loesch’s children into the debate by attacking her as a mother.

“I wish I could have asked the NRA lady [Loesch] a question,” Kasky said to Rubio. “I would ask her how she can look in the mirror, considering the fact that she has children[.]”

As the crowd burst into cheers, Tapper muttered something about “What was that, I’m sorry?” The crowd roared on.

“Absolutely despicable behavior by Parkland student Cameron Kasky … question[ing Loesch’s] motherhood and whether she cares about her children,” tweeted Curtis Houck, managing editor of Newsbusters. “Jake Tapper does nothing. How un-American. Simply unacceptable[.]”

Houck attached video of the moment to his tweet:

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Others chimed in over the left-wing Tapper’s silent approval:


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Tapper, who likes to present himself as male feminist, also chose to remain silent when the audience booed a rape survivor who now supports the Second Amendment.

Journalist Mike Cernovich compared the night to a “Two Minute Hate,” an event in George Orwell’s “1984” where the elite deflect from their own sins by allowing people to pour out their loathing and hostility on an innocent person or symbol.

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Another viewer summed the event up as “abusive.”

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CNN and Tapper, a former Democrat operative and Salon contributor, have faced growing criticism over the climate of hate (detailed here) the network frequently manufactures against Trump and his supporters, or anyone on the right — oftentimes through fake news.

For example, although debunked, Tapper continues to spread lies about Trump mocking a reporter’s disability. He also spread fake news with false claim that the president did not offer his condolences after a mosque shooting. While Tapper frequently attacks others over their tone and rhetoric, he does so while ginning up hatre against Trump by smearing the president as “un-American,” “unhinged,” and “unmoored.”

Tapper has yet to apologize for his behavior or to the rape victim, he also has not disavowed Kasky’s personal attacks or the behavior of the audience

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/02/22/cnn-tapper-face-intense-criticism-anti-gun-show-trial/

[Spurminator]

We aren't comparable to the Swiss. We are 60 times larger and have more unemployed, non contributors than the entire population of that country. We couldn't bare their tax rates, work ethic or nationalism.

No argument that we are directly comparable to Switzerland but I'm not sure what unemployment, work ethic, etc. had to do with any of these shootings.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Chris]

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Good job Trill. Mueller and CNN are on their way to investigate.

[Trill Clinton]

Good job Trill. Mueller and CNN are on their way to investigate.
:toast

[rmt]

Yes, those fatcat teachers need to kill for their students.

They also need to defend themselves. I don't know about you but I'd rather have a gun than pencils, pens, etc to defend myself and my students. Better than waiting how many minutes for cops who might or might not come in until the shooting stops.

[TSA]

Broward County Sheriff Israel is a piece of shit for going on CNN’s townhall and not telling all those kids yelling at Dana Loesch that 3 of his officers were on scene but did not engage the shooter. CNN is a piece of shit for putting on that townhall while sitting on that information.

[Chucho]

No argument that we are directly comparable to Switzerland but I'm not sure what unemployment, work ethic, etc. had to do with any of these shootings.

Sorry, should have been specific. It was in response to being able to provide proper/adequate mental health care here like the Swiss does.

[Spurminator]

Sorry, should have been specific. It was in response to being able to provide proper/adequate mental health care here like the Swiss does.

I'd like to see us try. But the health care debate, like the gun debate, tends to get bogged down in hypotheticals before any detailed policy discussion begins.

[rmt]

rmt

You taught your kids algebra and that got them ahead because you are so good.
Wanna try a problem I just saw (tutoring a kid in AP C calculus based physics) that he could not do because of not enough tools in the algebra toolbox?

Its an important Subject (algebra) I believe. You gotta be good, I learned this in public school. Mrs. Morton. She taught many kids this subject, not just her kids. And while you are at it, there is a kid from Somalia that you must teach. And one that is just slow, and one that gets beaten at home. Give it a shot?

What exactly does this have to do with the shooting? I have no idea what an algebra toolbox is - I taught from an old Dolciani book (older version).

https://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Structure-Method-Book-1/dp/0395977223/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519435523&sr=8-1&keywords=algebra+structure+and+method%2C+book+1#cu stomerReviews

[Spurminator]

CNN is a piece of shit for putting on that townhall while sitting on that information.

Why would that information have made a fundamental difference in the town hall? Is Dana Loesch somehow less of a hyperbolic fear-mongerer, or Marco Rubio less of an NRA-funded shill, because the officers didn't do their jobs and keep the death count to only, say, 7?

Not everyone is so easily drawn off by tangential stories.

[spurraider21]

Why would that information have made a fundamental difference in the town hall? Is Dana Loesch somehow less of a hyperbolic fear-mongerer, or Marco Rubio less of an NRA-funded shill, because the officers didn't do their jobs and keep the death count to only, say, 7?

Not everyone is so easily drawn off by tangential stories.
dont make him put out that list of reporters who colluded with hillary with the non-clickable links

[Chris]

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"...but blame the NRA and Rubio!" Selective outrage. Again.

[Chris]

:lol

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[spurraider21]

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"...but blame the NRA and Rubio!" Selective outrage. Again.

no matter how many shootings, remember to discuss literally every factor except for the common denominator


:lol

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eh, not even trying. that's just lazy

[pgardn]

What exactly does this have to do with the shooting? I have no idea what an algebra toolbox is - I taught from an old Dolciani book (older version).

https://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Structure-Method-Book-1/dp/0395977223/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519435523&sr=8-1&keywords=algebra+structure+and+method%2C+book+1#cu stomerReviews


I have no idea.
its how far back?
In the context of that part of the thread... well, these meanderings occur.
Probably your comment on cushy school teacher pensions and something about how much is spent on students? And the fact I had very good public school teachers.

It was probably another flippant conservative misinformation post about how much is spent on students and getting that mixed up with teacher pay. It's a ridiculous argument as it assumes all the $ goes to the people who teach in the district. People trying to become teachers has decreased since 2009. They make a paltry sum for what they go thru and the # of kids they have to teach. So if you think the pension is cushy, please enter the profession as a math teacher, since this is your expertise.

There are bad cops, teachers, presidents, doctors. But apparently an enormous # of bad math teachers in Florida.
Now I guess I will look at the book.

[pgardn]

What exactly does this have to do with the shooting? I have no idea what an algebra toolbox is - I taught from an old Dolciani book (older version).

https://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Structure-Method-Book-1/dp/0395977223/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519435523&sr=8-1&keywords=algebra+structure+and+method%2C+book+1#cu stomerReviews

Oh the dumbed down versions used in public schools. That's what led you to this.
That varies a great deal from district to district because schools have such a different clientele.
We have already discussed this as well.

[TSA]

Why would that information have made a fundamental difference in the town hall? Is Dana Loesch somehow less of a hyperbolic fear-mongerer, or Marco Rubio less of an NRA-funded shill, because the officers didn't do their jobs and keep the death count to only, say, 7?

Not everyone is so easily drawn off by tangential stories.Are you serious?

Do you really think that townhall would have gone the same way if those kids knew three Broward County sheriffs were on scene and did nothing but stand behind their cars with guns drawn? Do you think Sheriff Israel would have been received the same way? There was a reason the information was withheld until after the townhall.

[Chris]

Are you serious?

Do you really think that townhall would have gone the same way if those kids knew three Broward County sheriffs were on scene and did nothing but stand behind their cars with guns drawn? Do you think Sheriff Israel would have been received the same way? There was a reason the information was withheld until after the townhall.

Careful with @'ing him. You might not have the intellect to spar with him mentally. :lol

[pgardn]

Careful with @'ing him. You might not have the intellect to spar with him mentally. :lol

:cheer

Pizza!
Pizza!

[Spurminator]

Are you serious?

Do you really think that townhall would have gone the same way if those kids knew three Broward County sheriffs were on scene and did nothing but stand behind their cars with guns drawn? Do you think Sheriff Israel would have been received the same way? There was a reason the information was withheld until after the townhall.

The kids and parents know this information now and it hasn't changed their message. Yes, the town hall would have gone the same overall.

[Spurminator]

Careful with @'ing him. You might not have the intellect to spar with him mentally. :lol

:cry "triggered" :cry

[TSA]

The kids and parents know this information now and it hasn't changed their message. Yes, the town hall would have gone the same overall.

That’s bullshit and you know it. Sheriff Israel would have been the target of all those kids booing. Had the information come out before the townhall that his 3 officers were just standing there on scene like pussies while students were being murdered I doubt Israel would have even agreed to show up.

[Spurminator]

That’s bullshit and you know it. Sheriff Israel would have been the target of all those kids booing. Had the information come out before the townhall that his 3 officers were just standing there on scene like pussies while students were being murdered I doubt Israel would have even agreed to show up.

Have the kids changed their message since this news came out, yes or no?

[AaronY]

maybe he has bone spurs.
Holy Shit :lmao :lmao :lmao

[TSA]

Have the kids changed their message since this news came out, yes or no?

Their message not changing doesn’t make it any more fucked up that the Sheriff didn’t say anything about his 3 officers not engaging the shooter. That information should have been disclosed before the townhall even started.

[AaronY]

That’s bullshit and you know it. Sheriff Israel would have been the target of all those kids booing. Had the information come out before the townhall that his 3 officers were just standing there on scene like pussies while students were being murdered I doubt Israel would have even agreed to show up.
rjv makes a good point...What if they had bone spurs tho?

[rmt]

I have no idea.
its how far back?
In the context of that part of the thread... well, these meanderings occur.
Probably your comment on cushy school teacher pensions and something about how much is spent on students? And the fact I had very good public school teachers.

It was probably another flippant conservative misinformation post about how much is spent on students and getting that mixed up with teacher pay. It's a ridiculous argument as it assumes all the $ goes to the people who teach in the district. People trying to become teachers has decreased since 2009. They make a paltry sum for what they go thru and the # of kids they have to teach. So if you think the pension is cushy, please enter the profession as a math teacher, since this is your expertise.

There are bad cops, teachers, presidents, doctors. But apparently an enormous # of bad math teachers in Florida.
Now I guess I will look at the book.


I am sure that the school districts can part with some of their funds from their cushy pensions to put one of those safes advertised on TV (quickly accessed by iirc fingerprints/palms?) in my class room. I happen to know from experience just how cheaply kids can be educated - it doesn't take much - certainly nowhere near over $11k each. A huge amount of education money goes towards employees' healthcare and pensions.

I don't see why you are so stuck on teachers. Where in my post do I mention teachers? There are a lot of people in schools districts who are not teachers - bus drivers, food providers, janitorial staff, counselors, ITS, HR, principals/asst principals, SECURITY (what a joke), and in particular (and abundance) - administrators whose value I question - making stupid decisions - like the latest - a business version of Facebook that's driving us crazy (and probably cost millions of dollars - like we don't have the phone, email, heat tickets, IM/Skype, etc.). And you don't have to lecture me on cushy pensions - I hear it EVERYDAY - and don't even mention the Florida Retirement System DROP program - in which FL public retirees can continue working for 5 years WHILE also accumulating their pension.

I would not say that math is my expertise but it (and lots of reading) is what I focused on. I have no desire to be a teacher - for us, it was a lifestyle - the academics were just a part of it - family, religion, training, discipline and just raising up the kids the way we wanted - without them spending long hours in public schools.

[Chris]

The plot thickens.


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[Spurminator]

Their message not changing doesn’t make it any more fucked up that the Sheriff didn’t say anything about his 3 officers not engaging the shooter. That information should have been disclosed before the townhall even started.

Maybe, but that's not the same as suggesting everyone's ire would have been redirected from Rubio and the NRA to the Sheriff.

[Chris]

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[pgardn]

I don't see why you are so stuck on teachers. Where in my post do I mention teachers? There are a lot of people in schools districts who are not teachers - bus drivers, food providers, janitorial staff, counselors, ITS, HR, principals/asst principals, SECURITY (what a joke), and in particular (and abundance) - administrators whose value I question - making stupid decisions - like the latest - a business version of Facebook that's driving us crazy (and probably cost millions of dollars - like we don't have the phone, email, heat tickets, IM, etc.). And you don't have to lecture me on cushy pensions - I hear it EVERYDAY - and don't even mention the Florida Retirement System DROP program - in which FL public retirees can continue working for 5 years WHILE also accumulating their pension.

I would not say that math is my expertise but it (and lots of reading) is what I focused on. I have no desire to be a teacher - for us, it was a lifestyle - the academics were just a part of it - family, religion, training, discipline and just raising up the kids the way we wanted - without them spending long hours in public schools.

Who would be getting the cushy pensions within the school district?

Far more money goes to teacher's pensions than any other employee primarily because they are the vast majority of hires. Because, shocking, they teach.

[Isitjustme?]

Rightwingers are admitting that some cops maybe are shitty now and we have a problem with our police hiring now

[Chris]

1. Watch this video. People don't understand how Broward County School Sheriff Officers operate. I'll explain.

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2. I spent about 18 months in 2012, 2013 and 2014 investigating Broward and Miami-Dade school policies and how those policies transfer to law enforcement practices.

3. My interest was initially accidental. I discovered an untold story of massive scale and consequence as a result of initial research into Trayvon Martin and his High School life.

4. What I stumbled upon was a Broward County law enforcement system in a state of conflict. The Broward County School Board and District Superintendent, entered into a political agreement with Broward County Law enforcement officials to stop arresting students for crimes.

5. The motive was simple. The school system administrators wanted to "improve their statistics" and gain state and federal grant money for improvements therein.

6. So police officials, the very highest officials of law enforcement (Sheriff and Police Chiefs), entered into a plan.

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7. As soon as Miami-Dade began to receive the benefits (political and financial) from the scheme, Broward County joined on. The approach in Broward was identical as the approach in Miami-Dade.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/10/broward-county-florida-schools-institute-the-trayvon-martin-standard-for-studentpolice-avoidance/

8. It's important to remember, this was not an arbitrary change - this was a well-planned fundamental shift in the entire dynamic of how teenagers would be treated when they engaged in criminal conduct.

https://www.scribd.com/document/371916407/Broward-Co-Collaborative-Agreement-on-School-Discipline-MOU

9. The primary problem was the policy conflicted with laws; and over time the policy began to create outcomes where illegal behavior by students was essentially unchecked by law enforcement.

http://prospect.org/article/reversing-broward-countys-school-prison-pipeline

10. Initially the police were excusing misdemeanor behaviors. However, it didn't take long until felonies, even violent felonies (armed robberies, assaults and worse) were being excused.

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11. The need to continue lowering the arrests year-over-year meant that increasingly more severe unlawful behavior had to be ignored. Over time even the most severe of unlawful conduct was being filtered by responding police.

12. We found out about it, when six cops blew the whistle on severe criminal conduct they were being instructed to hide. The sheriff and police Chiefs were telling street cops and school cops to ignore ever worsening criminal conduct.

13. The police were in a bind. They were encountering evidence of criminal conduct and yet they had to hide the conduct. There were examples of burglary and robbery where the police had to hide the recovered evidence in order to let the kids get away without reports.

14. The police would take the stolen merchandise and intentionally falsify police records to record stolen merchandise *as if* they just found it on the side of the road.

15. They put drugs and stolen merchandise in bags, and sent it to storage rooms in the police department. Never assigning the recovery to criminal conduct. Stolen merchandise was just sitting in storage rooms gathering dust.

16. They couldn't get the stuff back to the victim because that would mean the police would have to explain how they took custody of it. So they just hid it. To prove this was happening one of the officers told me where to look, and who the victim was.

17. At first I didn't believe them. However, after getting information from detectives, cross referencing police reports, and looking at the "found merchandise", I realized they were telling the truth.

18. A massive internal investigation took place and the results were buried. Participating in the cover-up were people in the media who were connected to the entire political apparatus.

19. The sheriff and police chief could always deny the violent acts (assaults, rapes, beatings etc.) were being ignored; that's why the good guys in the police dept gave the evidence of the stolen merchandise. That physical evidence couldn't be ignored and proved the scheme.

20. From 2012 though 2018 it only got worse. In Broward and Miami-Dade it is almost impossible for a student to get arrested. The staff within the upper levels of LEO keep track of arrests and when a certain number is reached all else is excused.

21. Well it didn't take long for criminal gangs in Broward and Miami-Dade to realize the benefit of using students for their criminal activities. After all, the kids would be let go... so organized crime became easier to get away with if they enlisted high-school kids.

22. As criminals became more adept at the timing within the offices of the officials, they timed their biggest crimes to happen after the monthly maximum arrest quota was made.

23. The most serious of armed robberies etc. were timed for later in the month or quarter. The really serious crimes were timed in the latter phases of the data collection periods. This way the student criminals were almost guaranteed to get away with it.

24. Now. You can see how that entire process gets worse over time. Present corruption (the need to hide the policy) expands in direct relationship to the corruption before it. This is where the School Police come into play.

25. Understanding the risk behind the scheme, it became increasingly important to put the best corrupt cops in the schools. *BEST* as in *SMARTEST*. Those SRO's became the ones who were best at hiding the unlawful conduct.

26. Again, over time, the most corrupt police officers within the system became the police inside the schools. These officers were those who are best skilled at identifying the political objectives and instructions.

27. Those "School Cops" also have special privileges. It's a great gig. They get free "on campus" housing close to the schools they are assigned to etc. They're crooked as hell and the criminal kids how just how to play them. It's a game. Also an open secret.

28. A lot of it came out during an earlier *internal affairs* investigation. Unfortunately the behavior never changed because the politics never changed. It's still going on:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWr_-QFVwAEjwln.jpg

29. For years this has been happening and no-one cared. Crimes happen; students excused; victims ignored; etc. The Broward County School and Law Enforcement system is designed to flow exactly this way. It's politics.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWsAeRyVQAAT2zf.jpg

30. Only then a Parkland school shooting happened. For Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel this had to be an "oh shit" moment; but not for the reasons the media initially thought. If people start digging, they'll discover the shooter was one of those previously excused students

31. The same sentiment applies for Sheriff Scott's partner, School Superintendent Robert Runcie (previously from Chicago),.... things are very risky if people start digging.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWsB8sbV4AARXFC.jpg

32. Follow a simple timeline: 2011/2012 Broward County School administration made a policy decision to block the arrests of students in order to improve their education statistics.

http://prospect.org/article/reversing-broward-countys-school-prison-pipeline

33. 2013/2014 - Praise for the program:

http://wlrn.org/post/south-florida-schools-join-white-house-school-discipline-summit

34. 2017 - The program continues. Still chasing year-over-year reductions. Worse and worse crimes being excused.

https://www.publicsource.org/these-districts-fought-the-school-to-prison-pipeline-can-pittsburgh-learn-their-lessons/

35. 2018 - Parkland School Shooting. 17 dead. Political cop (SRO) cowered from shooter; now retiring. School board wondering 'what went wrong'.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html

Entirely predictable.

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36. I will give testimony, provide names, outline dates, and give all prior records to any lawyer for use in a wrongful death lawsuit – so long as their intent would be to financially ruin the entire system and personally bankrupt the participants.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html

[hater]

Not reading all that bullshit written by a pig jiga

Gtfo

[rmt]

Who would be getting the cushy pensions within the school district?

Far more money goes to teacher's pensions than any other employee primarily because they are the vast majority of hires. Because, shocking, they teach.

I would not say VAST majority - you'd be surprised at how much support staff there is to run a school (and excessive administrators Down Town). I think you underestimate the many ways in which teachers can earn more money - sponsoring clubs, tutoring, after school classes/activities, even AP passing grades eg. they have lifted the cap on money awarded to FL teachers for students who pass an AP exam - the joke around my ds' school is that the AP Spanish Lang and AP Spanish Lit teacher will be driving a Cadillac soon - with the hundreds of kids who ace those tests (98% iirc - highly Hispanic area). And remember they only work 9 1/2 months - some may teach during the summer and earn more.