View Full Version : Exclusive: Trump looking to erect tent cities to house unaccompanied children
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 10:46 AM
“We have to send a clear message just because your child gets across the border doesn’t mean your child gets to stay. We don’t want to send a message contrary to our laws or encourage more to come.”
—HRC 2014
why dont you just show us the whole clip, darrin?
pgardn
06-20-2018, 10:49 AM
speaking of el paso......i spent a month there one day.
Try Eagle Pass...
An hour is a lifetime.
El Paso at least has some pretty desert around.
Some geology... Snakes and Arachnids...
ducks
06-20-2018, 11:07 AM
The White House is considering executive action to allow children to stay with parents caught crossing the border illegally, Fox News has learned -- a step that could avoid the family separations that have triggered a national outcry and political crisis for Republicans.
The action under consideration would allow children to stay in detention with parents for an extended period of time. This comes as congressional Republicans scramble to draft legislation to address the same issue, but face challenges mustering the votes.
The separations stem from the administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, which aims to prosecute all illegal border crossers. But because of a 1997 order and related decisions, children cannot be detained for longer than 20 days with the adults.
Sources told Fox News that such an executive action by Trump could be seen to run afoul of the 1997 order and would likely draw a lawsuit. But the White House wants to try to take steps to uphold the enforcement of the law, while at the same time lessening the trauma of children being separated from their parents.
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 11:35 AM
Trash and his haters cave
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1009472953183080449
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 11:35 AM
Resistards loosing their shit
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Darrin "loosing" his shit, posting Peter Fonda tweets now. :lol
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 11:54 AM
"family values" AmeriKKKa has been WHITE family values, mostly, historically,currently
Juneteenth and the Detention of Children in Texas
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/juneteenth-and-the-detention-of-children-in-texas?mbid=nl_Daily%20062018&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13726728&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1421829525&spReportId=MTQyMTgyOTUyNQS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/juneteenth-and-the-detention-of-children-in-texas?mbid=nl_Daily%20062018&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13726728&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1421829525&spReportId=MTQyMTgyOTUyNQS2)
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Foster Care as Punishment: The New Reality of ‘Jane Crow’
“By the time I come out, I’m looking, I don’t see my child,” said Ms. Joefield, who began frantically searching the building.
Deja, who was 5, had indeed headed for the grandmother’s house when she couldn’t find her mother, but the next thing Ms. Joefield knew, it was a police matter.
“I’m thinking, I’ll explain to them what happened, and I’ll get my child,” Ms. Joefield said.
Police officers removed Deja from her apartment and the
Administration for Children’s Services (http://www1.nyc.gov/site/acs/index.page) placed her in foster care.
Police charged Ms. Joefield with endangering the welfare of a child.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/nyregion/foster-care-nyc-jane-crow.html
Put your kid to bed, take bath, lose your kid.
Welp now it'll be interesting to see Darrins dance his one stance back now that Trump has buckled under pressure.
It will probably go something like this....hahaha I just just kidding. You guys know I have no takes.
ducks
06-20-2018, 12:05 PM
the house is going to vote on something today
democracts will either vote for it or not
but people will know where they stand
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 12:10 PM
Darrin "loosing" his shit, posting Peter Fonda tweets now. :lol:lol I didn't even know he was still alive. Turns out Darrin has been following him this entire time, waiting for his chance to post one of his tweets here.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 12:12 PM
For all of the complaining they do about liberal elite Hollywood, no one obsesses about celebrity political opinions they way conservatives do.
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 12:14 PM
For all of the complaining they do about liberal elite Hollywood, no one obsesses about celebrity political opinions they way conservatives do.
yup. i know it, you know it, everyone knows it.
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 12:28 PM
Darrin "loosing" his shit, posting Peter Fonda tweets now. :lol
:lol
OFFICE OF FIRST LADY CALLS SECRET SERVICE AFTER ACTOR PETER FONDA CALLS FOR BARRON TRUMP TO BE KIDNAPPED
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/melania-calls-secret-service-after-actor-peter-fonda-threatens-to-kidnap-barron-trump/
pgardn
06-20-2018, 12:39 PM
:lol I didn't even know he was still alive. Turns out Darrin has been following him this entire time, waiting for his chance to post one of his tweets here.
Making up for his sister's ride on the N. Vietnamese tank.
These
peoploids...
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 12:52 PM
Making up for his sister's ride on the N. Vietnamese tank.
These
peoploids...I thought she sat in an AA gun, but point taken.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 12:58 PM
Of course Darrin went quiet when he realized Dear Leader had caved in to the liberals demands.
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 12:58 PM
A Janitor Preserves the Seized Belongings of Migrants
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097f2a8b51cf59fc42439d/master/w_1318,c_limit/IAM_00057967-copy.jpg
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097f1f8b51cf59fc424381/master/w_1928,c_limit/IAM_00057981-copy.jpg
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097f202179605b11ad9657/master/w_1928,c_limit/IAM_00057964-copy.jpg
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097f222179605b11ad965e/master/w_1928,c_limit/IAM_00057989-copy.jpg
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/a-janitors-collection-of-things-confiscated-from-migrants-in-the-desert
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 01:02 PM
Of course Darrin went quiet when he realized Dear Leader had caved in to the liberals demands.
When did I go quiet?
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 01:05 PM
When did I go quiet?You're certainly not talking about the caving, Darrin.
You're talking about Peter Fonda.
Peter Fonda.
lol
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 01:16 PM
"Melanie" called the Secret Service because Peter Fonda wanted to rip her kid from her arms and into a cage
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 01:18 PM
Trump’s War on Children is an act of State Terrorism (https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/20/trumps-war-on-children-is-an-act-of-state-terrorism/)
https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2018/06/DgFaAByUcAAzMQS-768x540.jpg
State terrorism comes in many forms, but one of its most cruel and revolting expressions is when it is aimed at children.
Separating children from their parents is indeed a form of terrorism and it points not only to a society that has lost its moral compass,
but has also descended into such darkness
that it demands both the loudest forms of moral outrage and
a collective resistance aimed at eliminating the narratives, power relations and values that support it.
State violence against children has a long, dark history among authoritarian regimes. (https://www.juancole.com/2018/06/dictators-children-sessions.html)
Josef Stalin’s police took children from the parents he labelled as “enemies of the people.”
Adolf Hitler,
Francisco Franco and
Augusto Pinochet
all separated children from their families on a large scale as a way
to punish political dissidents and those parents considered disposable.
Now we can
add U.S. President Donald Trump to the list of the depraved.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/20/trumps-war-on-children-is-an-act-of-state-terrorism/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/20/trumps-war-on-children-is-an-act-of-state-terrorism/)
ducks
06-20-2018, 01:41 PM
lol
just let the all kids in fuck America make them take care of our kids
10k of 12k kids parents did not even make trip to the usa to come in ILLEGALLY
parents from other countries
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 01:43 PM
lol
just let the all kids in fuck America make them take care of our kids
10k of 12k kids parents did not even make trip to the usa to come in ILLEGALLY
parents from other countries
dont like it than move
benefactor
06-20-2018, 01:48 PM
dont like it than move
:lol
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 01:50 PM
lol
just let the all kids in fuck America make them take care of our kids
10k of 12k kids parents did not even make trip to the usa to come in ILLEGALLY
parents from other countriesMore girls for you to pee in front of though.
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:00 PM
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SnakeBoy
06-20-2018, 02:02 PM
Same for you too.
Your moral failure to address the actual underlying issue proves a lot of criticisms of modern conservatism I have completely right.
You were asked earlier in this thread for your thoughts on how to address the underlying issue. Your answer was "something better" :cry so moral :cry
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:03 PM
I'll just throw this out there for those who claim the administrative approach doesn't work:
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/sites/default/files/hrf-immigration-court-appearance-rates-fact-sheet-nov2016.pdf
ducks
06-20-2018, 02:18 PM
Office Of First Lady Calls Secret Service After Actor Peter Fonda Calls For Barron Trump To Be Kidnapped
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:20 PM
what will "Trump caving" look like?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 02:22 PM
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he was right
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:22 PM
The federal Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) contracts with nonprofits to run around 45 shelters for undocumented immigrant minors in Texas, which are licensed and overseen by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission. The population of kids has swelled since April, when Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a “zero tolerance” policy for immigrants who illegally step foot across the border — a decision that’s resulted in the separation of over 2,300 (https://twitter.com/AlexSamuelsx5/status/1009090764276629504) kids from their parents. Around 11,000 (https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents) kids are currently in ORR shelters, about half of them in Texas.https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-officials-allow-15-immigrant-shelters-hold-more-kid-than-licenses-permit/
Trill Clinton
06-20-2018, 02:32 PM
Trump caved
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:36 PM
putting whole families into prison camps is caving?
ducks
06-20-2018, 02:37 PM
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he was right
trump is trying to get the laws changed better for the country
democracts are afraid of it because they are afraid of losing the illegal votes
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 02:37 PM
trump is trying to get the laws changed better for the country
democracts are afraid of it because they are afraid of losing the illegal votes
illegals aren't allowed to vote
what happened to trump's voter fraud commission :lol
Trill Clinton
06-20-2018, 02:40 PM
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http://i68.tinypic.com/11jratv.jpg
ducks
06-20-2018, 02:41 PM
PEOPLE LOVE TO BITCH
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 02:43 PM
"As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching,” Cohen wrote. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips."https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406
Chris
06-20-2018, 02:46 PM
Take it up with Chuck.
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 02:53 PM
Take it up with Chuck.
chuck called it lol. he said trump should just sign an order ending the policy.
and then trump did.
Chuck
Chris
06-20-2018, 02:54 PM
Chuck decided to punt and Trump just ran it in for a touchdown. Thanks Chuck :tu
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 02:56 PM
Chuck decided to punt and Trump just ran it in for a touchdown. Thanks Chuck :tuChuck told Dennison to jump and Dennison jumped over the goalpost.
putting whole families into prison camps is caving?
What do you think you're going to get out of this admin? This is as much as win as you're gonna get from them at this point.
The least they can do is put them together. Maybe you wanted the kids to continue to suffer alone? Or deluded enough to believe they would all be set free?
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 03:02 PM
Chuck decided to punt and Trump just ran it in for a touchdown. Thanks Chuck :tu
well, we're still waiting for the house republicans to present the bill with no other strings attached, like you claimed yesterday
Trill Clinton
06-20-2018, 03:13 PM
America basically punked trump into caving. Dude looked mad as hell signing that eo.
Lying sack of shit.
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 03:45 PM
"the Dems did it, too"
"been going on for decades"
lie, lie, lie
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 03:56 PM
Now, on to the next fake outrage
Chris
06-20-2018, 03:59 PM
So no more fake crying from Maddow and Cummings? Too bad.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 04:01 PM
Now, on to the next fake outrage
Maybe Kathy Griffith will post another photo that you can start a thread about.
Your selective apathy is transparent and pathetic. Grow some conviction, you fucking coward.
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:05 PM
Back to Stormy more than likely or Michael Cohen. They always have Manafort - their ace in the hole. :lol
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 04:09 PM
Watch the chyron. Oops. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ln7rU7JhY#
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:10 PM
:lmao
very fake news
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 04:11 PM
Takeless Darrin has no take.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 04:26 PM
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Winehole23
06-20-2018, 04:27 PM
What do you think you're going to get out of this admin? This is as much as win as you're gonna get from them at this point.
The least they can do is put them together.given the Flores settlement, the indefinite detention of children even with their families, is sure to draw a court challenge.
hopefully the tender feelings for humanity kindled by this debacle will lead to a revaluation of the appropriateness of family detention.
nah, prolly not
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 04:29 PM
well, lets see how it's implemented before judging
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:30 PM
well, lets see how it's implemented before judging
FUCK DRUMPF
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 04:31 PM
FUCK DRUMPF
:lol botlike bahavior
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:32 PM
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ducks
06-20-2018, 04:32 PM
Back to Stormy more than likely or Michael Cohen. They always have Manafort - their ace in the hole. :lol
Manafort the manslwyer person according to abc
oh they said their bad
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 04:42 PM
Takeless Darrin has no take.
But, muh memes
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274409&p=9430971&viewfull=1#post9430971
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 04:44 PM
1009547866061328395that's a misconception, a high percentage of those released show up for their hearings and are compliant with conditions of their release.
see my link upstream.
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:45 PM
Manafort the manslwyer person according to abc
oh they said their bad
He killed 5 people!
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:45 PM
that's a misconception, a high percentage of those released show up for their hearings and are compliant with conditions of their release.
see my link upstream.
No thanks.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 04:48 PM
But, muh memes
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274409&p=9430971&viewfull=1#post9430971I had a take I stated clearly, Darrin:
Dennison caved and ate his own turd.
What is your take, Darrin?
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 04:49 PM
No thanks.:lol Chris doesn't want to leave his safe space.
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 04:50 PM
No thanks.you're right, you shouldn't allow facts to unduly color your judgment
Chris
06-20-2018, 04:51 PM
Big Dog
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Chris
06-20-2018, 04:52 PM
you're right, you shouldn't allow facts to unduly color your judgment
You know jack and shit.
SnakeBoy
06-20-2018, 04:58 PM
Big Dog
1009536237881847808
When will they learn
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/583c906ebe659429d1106265/t/591b31e3197aea68a6c2356b/1494954475199/
boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 05:01 PM
well, lets see how it's implemented before judging
I'm sure you'll surprised that I think the DHS Schutzstaffel goons will not respect the spirit of the EO, but will push the very vague, loop hole-y letter of the EO up to and past the limit.
All the facilities should be open on short notice to any govt official or journalist. They have been mostly closed to Congress people so far.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 05:02 PM
you're right, you shouldn't allow facts to unduly color your judgment
It's his emotional forcefield. Let him have it. It's all he has, the poor lonely bastard.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 05:04 PM
Big Dog
1009536237881847808:lol Obama living rent free in all your heads.
Chris
06-20-2018, 05:11 PM
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Watch the chyron. Oops. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Ln7rU7JhY#
In about 3 months or so this will correct itself and you'll go back to having no takes---or very shitty takes. Like usual.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 05:12 PM
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1009552071522217986:lol so much spin
It was a shitty policy and even Republicans were turning on Dennison.
Dennison caved and there's nothing you can do about it.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 05:13 PM
4-D Chess-Playing Don made a mess and cleaned it up real quick when it was clear it could cost him his GOP majority.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 05:16 PM
"Big Dog" shit on the living room carpet and tried to eat it three days later but still left a skid mark.
ducks
06-20-2018, 05:27 PM
Turns out Chuckie and his crew just wanted to make the President and the republicans look bad for the mid terms. They could care less about the children that they have been boo hooing about all week. Democrats don't want to solve the problem. They just don't care about America they are OUR country's enemy. Vote them out at the mid terms.
clambake
06-20-2018, 05:34 PM
Turns out Chuckie and his crew just wanted to make the President and the republicans look bad for the mid terms. They could care less about the children that they have been boo hooing about all week. Democrats don't want to solve the problem. They just don't care about America they are OUR country's enemy. Vote them out at the mid terms.
how do you manage to breath up there?
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 06:04 PM
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Gotta keep them angry and afraid
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 06:08 PM
Gotta keep them angry and afraid
The irony.
Chris
06-20-2018, 06:10 PM
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Gotta keep them angry and afraid
...And keep them laughing with Kimmel and Baldwin.
Chris
06-20-2018, 06:20 PM
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pgardn
06-20-2018, 06:23 PM
...And keep them laughing with Kimmel and Baldwin.
Donald does not do laughing.
Sad...
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 06:25 PM
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Gotta keep them angry and afraidDarrin -- you're always angry and afraid.
pgardn
06-20-2018, 06:26 PM
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Gotta keep them angry and afraid
Rapen and killing border crossers while the deep state takes over.
So, Yeah...
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 06:26 PM
1009574400759394304Trump's eating shit is not about unaccompanied children.
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 06:46 PM
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spurraider21
06-20-2018, 06:50 PM
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that's sort of how asylum works. if they had the time to stay at home, get visas/green cards worked out, then clearly they aren't in a need for asylum
per USCIS
To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
You must apply for asylum within one year of the date of their last arrival in the United States, unless you can show:
Changed circumstances that materially affect your eligibility for asylum or extraordinary circumstances relating to the delay in filing
You filed within a reasonable amount of time given those circumstances.
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 06:51 PM
Oops
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boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 06:51 PM
Trump administration bans members of Congress from talking to kids in detention centers (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/20/1773833/-Trump-administration-bans-members-of-Congress-from-talking-to-kids-in-detention-centers)
“To protect the privacy and vulnerability of children in its care,
we cannot allow visitors to record or photograph anything within the facility property,
nor are visitors allowed to interact with the children,”
reads the email from Sara Morse, the deputy assistant secretary for legislation at HHS.
“We appreciate your cooperation.”
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/20/1773833/-Trump-administration-bans-members-of-Congress-from-talking-to-kids-in-detention-centers
Chris
06-20-2018, 06:54 PM
His eyebrow still looks fucked up. :lol
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 06:54 PM
Oops
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1009496865853886487Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres.
Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult, according to the Canada Border Services Agency. The CBSA would not speculate on the circumstances surrounding why a minor was unaccompanied.
By comparison, the Trump administration has separated more than 2,000 children from their families since instituting a "zero tolerance" crackdown in April on those seeking to enter the United States illegally.
:lmao Neveratake Darrin
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 06:56 PM
Yeah Trudeau's quote isn't exactly contradicted by the article but Darrin probably didn't read it.
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 06:57 PM
Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres.
Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult, according to the Canada Border Services Agency. The CBSA would not speculate on the circumstances surrounding why a minor was unaccompanied.
By comparison, the Trump administration has separated more than 2,000 children from their families since instituting a "zero tolerance" crackdown in April on those seeking to enter the United States illegally.
:lmao Neveratake Darrin
Gee, do you think their numbers would be higher if they shared a border with Mexico?
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 06:59 PM
Gee, do you think their numbers would be higher if they shared a border with Mexico?
Does the Trudeau administration have a zero tolerance policy, Darrin? I bet you can find the answer in the article you posted.
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 07:00 PM
Oops
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:lol "detained with their parents"
the issue here has been separation from family. it's not that complicated
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 07:01 PM
Oops
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 07:02 PM
:lol "detained with their parents"
the issue here has been separation from family. it's not that complicated
What was the EO signed today?
spurraider21
06-20-2018, 07:07 PM
What was the EO signed today?
oh that means the last few weeks never happened
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 07:17 PM
Gee, do you think their numbers would be higher if they shared a border with Mexico?That's your take, Darrin?
11 kids?
Well that's about 14% of 2000, so pretty good comparison.
ducks
06-20-2018, 07:20 PM
Reagan: Many Border Kids Linked to Human Trafficking
DarrinS
06-20-2018, 07:23 PM
That's your take, Darrin?
11 kids?
Well that's about 14% of 2000, so pretty good comparison.
They get far fewer unaccompanied children — shocker!
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 07:24 PM
They get far fewer unaccompanied children — shocker!11 kids, Darrin -- and zero claimed to be separated from their parents as a deterrent.
lol
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 07:28 PM
Reagan: Many Border Kids Linked to Human Trafficking
Also Reagan:
For one, we very much need in any immigration bill - we need protection for people who are in this country and who have not become citizens, for example, that they are protected and legitimized and given permanent residency here.
Also Reagan:
Illegal immigrants in considerable numbers have become productive members of our society and are a basic part of our work force. Those who have established equities in the United States should be recognized and accorded legal status.
Also Reagan:
But it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in the field for lack of harvesters.
Also Reagan:
I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally.
Also Reagan:
We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans.
Spurminator
06-20-2018, 07:28 PM
11 kids, Darrin -- and zero claimed to be separated from their parents as a deterrent.
lol
In a full year, even. Not just since April.
Pavlov
06-20-2018, 07:34 PM
In a full year, even. Not just since April.Still a solid 14% tho.
ducks
06-20-2018, 07:43 PM
"Congress ought to pass a law, and we already have Sen. Schumer on the Democratic side basically saying he doesn't want to pass a law. He really worries about the children unless it means Donald Trump would win, at which point he doesn't worry about the children because he can't let Trump win.
"I think this will, in the end, remind people how irresponsible and how intellectually dishonest the Democrats have become."
pgardn
06-20-2018, 08:10 PM
"Congress ought to pass a law, and we already have Sen. Schumer on the Democratic side basically saying he doesn't want to pass a law. He really worries about the children unless it means Donald Trump would win, at which point he doesn't worry about the children because he can't let Trump win.
"I think this will, in the end, remind people how irresponsible and how intellectually dishonest the Democrats have become."
They got two bills in the HOUSE one of which has a dreamer provision, one does not. Trump said he would sign either. The Republicans themselves are split Ducks!
And I do believe Schumer is a bag. Especially with Israel.
http://i68.tinypic.com/33boe1c.jpg
How can you live with this?
ducks
06-20-2018, 10:18 PM
WATCH: Democrat Admits She Didn't Really Care About Family Separation Under Obama
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32102/watch-democrat-admits-she-didnt-really-care-about-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
Winehole23
06-20-2018, 11:47 PM
Chuck decided to punt and Trump just ran it in for a touchdown. Thanks Chuck :tuARSONIST HERO PUTS OUT HOUSE FIRE
clambake
06-21-2018, 12:19 AM
ARSONIST HERO PUTS OUT HOUSE FIRE
i love clever.
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 01:34 AM
let the shredding begin:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5722daf11d07c02f9c1739cc/t/599c58dc579fb35b895fa6fd/1503418593227/ICE_NARA-appraisal_detainee-records.pdf
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 01:46 AM
He doesn't give 2 shits one way or the other about the children which just lengthens the lever.the problem won't go away anytime soon.
the EO won't end family separations and might lead to things almost as bad -- like family detention.
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 01:54 AM
Item 0001 DETAINEE SEXUAL ABUSE AND ASSAULT FILES
Item 0002 DEATH REVIEW FILES
Item 0003 DETAINEE TELEPHONE RATE RECORDS
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 02:00 AM
"Big Dog" shit on the living room carpet and tried to eat it three days later but still left a skid mark.the harm done to people makes it worse than a shit stain to me, your mileage may vary
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 02:31 AM
"I can’t understand this, the judge said. If someone at the jail takes your wallet, they give you a receipt. They take your kids, and you get nothing? Not even a slip of paper?"
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 02:41 AM
that's so 2018
1006980295051173888
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 02:56 AM
more topically, recently proposed:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgFOpBHXUAINeQA.jpg
the problem won't go away anytime soon.
the EO won't end family separations and might lead to things almost as bad -- like family detention.
What's better - family detention or family separation. Or I guess, what some want - let them all come in.
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:12 AM
What's better - family detention or family separation. Or I guess, what some want - let them all come in.You supposedly pro-child and pro-family folk keep using that straw man.
Who claims open borders as their desired policy?
SnakeBoy
06-21-2018, 05:14 AM
Democrats Have Zero Tolerance For Illegal Immigration Solutions
http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/20/democrats-have-zero-tolerance-for-illegal-immigration-solutions/
SnakeBoy
06-21-2018, 05:15 AM
empting to cross into the United States illegally. Though there are still some disagreements, one thi
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:15 AM
Democrats Have Zero Tolerance For Illegal Immigration Solutions
http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/20/democrats-have-zero-tolerance-for-illegal-immigration-solutions/lol gentry Breitbart
What is Trump's illegal immigration solution besides taking kids away from their families?
SnakeBoy
06-21-2018, 05:15 AM
will veto the bill. We don’t know. Not that any of it is going to matter if Democrats block the legislation, which is wha
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:16 AM
What is Trump's illegal immigration solution besides taking kids away from their families?
AaronY
06-21-2018, 08:04 AM
1009619434326110208
:rollin
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:12 AM
Miller and Kelly must both be pissed off
Spurminator
06-21-2018, 08:27 AM
Or I guess, what some want - let them all come in.
This is the new "Gay marriage will lead to legalized bestiality."
Why can't you guys ever debate actual policies instead of worst-case scenario slippery slope versions?
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:41 AM
Migrant Children Drugged Without Consent At Government Centers, Court Documents Show
The allegations center on a mental health facility in Texas that has had problems in the past.
Staff working on the behalf of the Office of Refugee Resettlement are routinely drugging detained child migrants with psychotropics without their parents’ consent, according to legal filings.
The drugging allegations are among the most disturbing. One child cited in the lawsuit reported taking up to nine pills in the morning and another seven in the evening, without knowing what the medication was.
“ORR routinely administers children psychotropic drugs without lawful authorization,”
“When youth object to taking such medications, ORR compels them. ORR neither requires nor asks for a parent’s consent before medicating a child, nor does it seek lawful authority to consent in parents’ stead.
Instead, ORR or facility staff sign ‘consent’ forms anointing themselves with ‘authority’ to administer psychotropic drugs to confined children.”
the problem is widespread.
One child, identified in court records as Julio Z., said staff at Shiloh thew him to the floor and forced him to take medication.
He said he witnessed staff pry another child’s mouth open to force him to swallow a pill.
When Julio Z. attempted to refuse the medication, he said the doctor ignored him.
“They told me that if I did not take the medicine I could not leave,” Julio Z. said, according to the court records. “That the only way I could get out of Shiloh was if I took the pills.”
“Sometimes they give me forced injections,” another child, identified as Rosa L., said. “One or two staff hold my arms, and the nurse gives me an injection.”
Julio Z. reported gaining 45 pounds in a matter of two months.
A mother of a child identified in court records as Isabella M. said the medications were so powerful that her daughter repeatedly fell because she couldn’t walk.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/migrant-children-drugged-without-parental-consent-at-government-institutions-court-documents-show_us_5b2a9e87e4b0321a01cd4dd3?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__062118&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__062118+CID_f8582f13 9d3dab392689e652865a25ea&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__062118
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:43 AM
Who runs ORR?
A fucking Christian Taliban warrior
The Trump official who tried to stop a detained immigrant from getting an abortion
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/26/the-trump-official-who-tried-to-stop-a-detained-immigrant-from-getting-an-abortion/?utm_term=.524dae2c2fb2
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:47 AM
What about the 2000+ "deterrent" kids already ripped from their parents?
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:56 AM
Young immigrants detained in Virginia center allege abuse
Immigrant children as young as 14 housed at a juvenile detention center in Virginia say
they were beaten while handcuffed and
locked up for long periods in solitary confinement,
left nude and
shivering in concrete cells.
The abuse claims against the Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center near Staunton, Virginia, are detailed in federal court filings that include a half-dozen sworn statements from Latino teens jailed there for months or years.
Multiple detainees say the guards stripped them of their clothes and strapped them to chairs with bags placed over their heads.
“Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me,”
said a Honduran immigrant who was sent to the facility when he was 15 years old.
“Strapped me down all the way, from your feet all the way to your chest, you couldn’t really move. ...
They have total control over you.
They also put a bag over your head.
It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.”
In addition to the children’s first-hand, translated accounts in court filings, a former child-development specialist who worked inside the facility independently told The Associated Press this week that
she saw kids there with bruises and broken bones they blamed on guards.
She spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to publicly discuss the children’s cases.
https://apnews.com/afc80e51b562462c89907b49ae624e79?ncid=newsltushpmg news__TheMorningEmail__062118
Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center (https://www.svjc.org/)
https://www.svjc.org/
is for-profit, so we know the profiteers have invested their profits heavily in training and monitoring the staff. :lol
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 09:45 AM
What's better - family detention or family separation. Or I guess, what some want - let them all come in.false dilemma, neither is necessary. DJT should scrap his unsustainable zero tolerance policy and give immigration officials the discretion they used to have not to detain people at all.
the rate of non-compliance has been wildly exaggerated. believe it or not, we've got ways to keep track of immigrants we do not detain.
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 10:01 AM
recommendations here; notably last updated January 10, 2017
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/KIND%20-%20Betraying%20Family%20Values.pdf
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 10:13 AM
PBS, from 2011:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/lost-in-detention/
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 11:25 AM
yes, Obama did it too. let's stop doing it.
Many liberals contend Obama never ripped babies from the arms of screaming parents (https://twitter.com/search?q=ripped%20from%20arms%20screaming%20parent s&src=typd). They should ask, for example, the over 150,000 immigrant children separated (https://humanimpact.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Family-Unity-Family-Health-2013.pdf) from their parents due to detention and deportation proceedings in 2012 if that’s true. Or the over 500,000 immigrant children, who experienced separation between 1998 and that year.
The majority of those children were under 10 years-old. Over 5,000 were placed into foster care. Specifically, these were children whose parents were deported, not minors who came to the border unaccompanied.
https://shadowproof.com/2018/06/15/separation-immigrant-families-part-deportation-obama-now-trump-expanding-practice/
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 11:43 AM
Young immigrants detained in Virginia center allege abuse
Immigrant children as young as 14 housed at a juvenile detention center in Virginia say
they were beaten while handcuffed and
locked up for long periods in solitary confinement,
left nude and
shivering in concrete cells.
The abuse claims against the Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center near Staunton, Virginia, are detailed in federal court filings that include a half-dozen sworn statements from Latino teens jailed there for months or years.
Multiple detainees say the guards stripped them of their clothes and strapped them to chairs with bags placed over their heads.
“Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me,”
said a Honduran immigrant who was sent to the facility when he was 15 years old.
“Strapped me down all the way, from your feet all the way to your chest, you couldn’t really move. ...
They have total control over you.
They also put a bag over your head.
It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.”
In addition to the children’s first-hand, translated accounts in court filings, a former child-development specialist who worked inside the facility independently told The Associated Press this week that
she saw kids there with bruises and broken bones they blamed on guards.
She spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to publicly discuss the children’s cases.
https://apnews.com/afc80e51b562462c89907b49ae624e79?ncid=newsltushpmg news__TheMorningEmail__062118
Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center (https://www.svjc.org/)
https://www.svjc.org/
is for-profit, so we know the profiteers have invested their profits heavily in training and monitoring the staff. :lol
1009821334401056769
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 11:45 AM
1009821334401056769
oh look its darrin's fake outrage
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 11:52 AM
Stutterin, mumblin, stumblin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2rS5hK12sw
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 11:55 AM
what do you think about family separation, Darrin?
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 12:27 PM
what do you think about family separation, Darrin?
It's unfortunate. We don't put American kids with their imprisoned parents. Where do they go?
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 12:30 PM
It's unfortunate. We don't put American kids with their imprisoned parents. Where do they go?The parents haven't been sentenced for any crime.
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 12:44 PM
The parents haven't been sentenced for any crime.
But they’ve been arrested for one.
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 12:45 PM
But they’ve been arrested for one.And can make bail.
You're acting like they're mass murderers, Darrin.
lol
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 12:56 PM
And can make bail.
You're acting like they're mass murderers, Darrin.
lol
Yes, I’m acting like they are mass murderers. That’s exactly what I’m doing.
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 01:04 PM
Resistard snaps
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32096/democrat-volunteer-threatens-kill-republican-reps-ryan-saavedra
Spurminator
06-21-2018, 01:05 PM
It's unfortunate. We don't put American kids with their imprisoned parents. Where do they go?
Usually with the other parent or a family member. Any more dumb questions?
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 01:06 PM
Yes, I’m acting like they are mass murderers. That’s exactly what I’m doing.You're certainly acting like kids should be taken away and placed hundreds of miles from their parents who are charged with a misdemeanor with no set protocol for reuniting them.
Is that your belief, Darrin?
Give your take on it.
Spurminator
06-21-2018, 01:06 PM
Resistard snaps
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32096/democrat-volunteer-threatens-kill-republican-reps-ryan-saavedra
Darrin snaps, reduced to posting DailyWire articles about random psychos in defense of his favorite President.
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 02:15 PM
Stutterin, mumblin, stumblin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2rS5hK12sw
i heard glenn beck talking about that this morning too
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 02:24 PM
i heard glenn beck talking about that this morning too
I didn’t. But, I don’t listen to Glen Beck.
MultiTroll
06-21-2018, 02:28 PM
Stutterin, mumblin, stumblin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2rS5hK12sw
nice find.
Obviously just partisan bullshit.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 02:34 PM
huge differences between Obama's program and Trash/Miller/Kelly's program have been documented in this thread
go RTFT
now Trash wants to change the Flores amendment so he and his goons can incarcerate a family, TOGETHER! :lol, for much longer than 20 days
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 02:42 PM
I didn’t. But, I don’t listen to Glen Beck.
you're missing out. he could add to your repertoire of worn out talking points
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 02:45 PM
you're missing out. he could add to your repertoire of worn out talking pointsYOU OBVIOUSLY WANT OPEN BORDERS JUST LIKE ALL THOSE OTHER UNNAMED PEOPLE I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 02:58 PM
you're missing out. he could add to your repertoire of worn out talking points
You mean, like how Trump is literally Hitler? :lmao
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 03:08 PM
Do Americans Understand They’re Beginning to Commit The Legal Definition of Genocide?
No, You Don’t Know What Genocide (Really) Is. But You Should.
Here is the UN’s definition of genocide under the statutes of the International Criminal Court (http://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.html).
“In the present Convention,
genocide means any of the following
acts committed
with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
a Killing members of the group;
b Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”
Hold on — isn’t that exactly what we’re doing?
https://eand.co/do-americans-understand-putting-kids-in-camps-meets-the-definition-of-genocide-60f428d229ff[
Spurminator
06-21-2018, 03:11 PM
You mean, like how Trump is literally Hitler? :lmao
Peak Darrinbot
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 03:20 PM
Peak DarrinbotBIG DEAL TEXAS KIDS ARE SHIPPED TO NEW YORK WHEN THEIR PARENTS COMMIT MISDEMEANORS ALL THE TIME
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 03:42 PM
WTF? :rollin
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/melania-trump-32.jpg
Quadzilla99
06-21-2018, 03:52 PM
Resistard snaps
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32096/democrat-volunteer-threatens-kill-republican-reps-ryan-saavedra
Oh look it's an irrelevant random weirdo.
Oh wait it's a very important microcosm of something since it makes the left look bad actually
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 03:55 PM
WTF? :rollin
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/melania-trump-32.jpg
depends on who is the "you"
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 04:07 PM
dual purpose: love letter to Trumpalos, next level trolling of haters
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 04:24 PM
Damon Linker on keeping things in proportion:
The administration's critics are amply justified in their revulsion at its immigration policies. But it isn't strict adherence to consistent moral principle that is motivating the reaction to them. It is the selective application of moral principle to a situation that people sense or hope will prove to be politically advantageous.
People who hate President Trump and his policies smell blood in the water, and they're eager (actually, overeager) to pounce on them with everything they've got.
https://theweek.com/articles/779976/fight-trumps-family-separation-policy-dont-lose-mind-process
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 04:52 PM
https://sonofhel.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/david-after-dentist-real-life.jpg
1009888192919756802
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 04:56 PM
Lol, someone wants attention
1009844985255034882
koriwhat
06-21-2018, 04:57 PM
1009888192919756802
that whore is such an angel.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 05:03 PM
Trash to use uniformed military lawyers as prosecutors in civilian courts. probably illegal
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 05:05 PM
wall to wall pop culture takes from serious conservatives
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 05:29 PM
1009803457287598082
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:33 PM
1009865653283680256
Take your virtue signaling ass back to New York faggot :lol
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:36 PM
1009870359196196864
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 05:37 PM
Chris holding his finger in the air
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:38 PM
1009870359196196864Which law requires separating the kids from their parents and shipping them to New York for a misdemeanor charge, Chris?
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 05:40 PM
still can't tell him what to say
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:45 PM
Which law requires separating the kids from their parents and shipping them to New York for a misdemeanor charge, Chris?
Most parents get separated from their kids when they break the law. This is common knowledge Pavlov.
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 05:48 PM
Smugglers be like
https://media.giphy.com/media/pJkNWIaHxEymQ/giphy.gif
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 05:48 PM
it told him to say something stupid
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:50 PM
80% of the kids coming to the border are sans parents.
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:51 PM
Most parents get separated from their kids when they break the law. This is common knowledge Pavlov.Absolutely not, Chris.
Not at all.
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 05:53 PM
80% of the kids coming to the border are sans parents.
media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gifSo ship of the ones that did come with their parents to New York?
lol chrisbot
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:54 PM
Absolutely not, Chris.
Not at all.
Yeah, when you break the law you usually go to jail so...yeah.
SnakeBoy
06-21-2018, 05:54 PM
1009865653283680256
Take your virtue signaling ass back to New York faggot :lol
Judging from how he's handling the heat I'd bet he's already on his way
Chris
06-21-2018, 05:54 PM
80%
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 06:13 PM
Yeah, when you break the law you usually go to jail so...yeah.Do you go to jail for jaywalking, Chris?
Failure to come to a complete stop?
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 06:14 PM
80%Link?
Of course not.
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:15 PM
Holy propaganda Batman!
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-06-21_10-46-00.jpg?itok=GhtfU3xh
Judging from how he's handling the heat I'd bet he's already on his way
Heat stroke is no joke. Who wants to go out that way. :lol
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 06:31 PM
JeBo Now Says the Administration “Never Really Intended” to Separate Families. Liar Liar Liar!https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/jeff-sessions-family-separation-never-really-intended.html
JeBo thinks all Americans are like the ignorant, inbred, Bible-humping gullibles back home in AL.
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:38 PM
Fresh shipment of unaccompanied children heading to open borders New York. :tu
1009941188332457985
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 06:41 PM
Fresh shipment of unaccompanied children heading to open borders New York. :tu
1009941188332457985lol open borders straw man again
Did these guys scare you, Chris?
Do you need to change yourself?
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:43 PM
lol open borders straw man again
Did these guys scare you, Chris?
Do you need to change yourself?
I'm just upset they are separated from their parents. They look devastated. Trump should sign another EO.
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:43 PM
how do you know they are undocumented immigrants?
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:43 PM
I'm just upset they are separated from their parents. They look pretty upset about it. Trump should sign another EO.
where's that house bill with no strings attached that meadows promised? you've had that one pending for a couple days now
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:44 PM
how do you know they are undocumented immigrants?
??
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:44 PM
where's that house bill with no strings attached that meadows promised? you've had that one pending for a couple days now
Chuck shit all over it. Take it up with Chuck.
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:46 PM
??
i mean its quite likely they are... just askin tho
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:46 PM
Chuck shit all over it. Take it up with Chuck.
chuck is not in the house, chris. meadows can bring his bill to committee vote and have it go to house floor before chuck can even get a word in
do we even have a draft of meadow's bill that he promised?
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:50 PM
chuck is not in the house, chris. meadows can bring his bill to committee vote and have it go to house floor before chuck can even get a word in
do we even have a draft of meadow's bill that he promised?
Why does it matter when the Democrats have already said no deal before even sitting down at the negotiating table? Seems like a giant waste of time to me. They wanted to make it about Trump, and Trump handled it. Now, now...you want Congress to get involved?
lol
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:52 PM
1009215673590001664
he was right
lol
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:53 PM
Why does it matter when the Democrats have already said no deal before even sitting down at the negotiating table? Seems like a giant waste of time to me. They wanted to make it about Trump, and Trump handled it. Now, now...you want Congress to get involved?
lol
chuck said there is no way republicans would ever bring a bill with no strings attached
meadows didnt call his bluff despite promising to have a bill with no strings attached. lol.
spurraider21
06-21-2018, 06:53 PM
lol
yeah. he didnt think a republican congress would allow a bill with no strings attached to pass.
he was right.
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:54 PM
1009935968164630528
lol
Chris
06-21-2018, 06:55 PM
1009785143635206149
Keyword: Senate
lol
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 06:58 PM
I'm just upset they are separated from their parents. They look devastated. Trump should sign another EO.lol you can never actually argue anything
I accept your white flag.
Pavlov
06-21-2018, 06:59 PM
1009785143635206149
Keyword: Senate
lolThe House Bill was defeated by Republicans today.
Of course you knew absolutely nothing about that.
lol
Chris
06-21-2018, 07:00 PM
More fake news propaganda from ABC (he was talking about MS13)
1009658174419288064
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 07:21 PM
Holy propaganda Batman!
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-06-21_10-46-00.jpg?itok=GhtfU3xh
The father of this little girl, who lives in Honduras:
You can imagine how I felt when I saw that photo of my daughter. It broke my heart. It’s difficult as a father to see that, but I know now that they are not in danger. They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border,’ he said.
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.
Chris
06-21-2018, 07:23 PM
83% of those who show up don’t have even a quarter of the required paperwork.
10,000 of the 12,000 children sent to the border were sent with strangers on a dangerous journey. They weren’t even with their parents.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 07:40 PM
Guard at Trump’s child detention facility just got exposed for collection of child pornography
https://washingtonpress.com/2018/06/20/guard-at-trumps-child-detention-facility-just-got-exposed-for-collection-of-child-pornography/
How of the "lost" little Latinas are being sexually abused by pedophiles?
DarrinS
06-21-2018, 07:45 PM
Guard at Trump’s child detention facility just got exposed for collection of child pornography
https://washingtonpress.com/2018/06/20/guard-at-trumps-child-detention-facility-just-got-exposed-for-collection-of-child-pornography/
How of the "lost" little Latinas are being sexually abused by pedophiles?
Guard?
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/southwest-key-hired-child-case-manager-previously-arrested-child-pornography/
Still, that’s a bad hire, tbh.
Chris
06-21-2018, 07:50 PM
The father of this little girl, who lives in Honduras:
You can imagine how I felt when I saw that photo of my daughter. It broke my heart. It’s difficult as a father to see that, but I know now that they are not in danger. They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border,’ he said.
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.
Mother was previously deported in 2013. Recidivist.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:11 PM
Trump Tried To Con America On Family Separations But He Just Got Busted By Adam Schiff
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) revealed that Trump’s executive order was a lie, and Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen privately told lawmakers that Trump is going to resume separating families at the border.
Adam Schiff
✔@RepAdamSchiff
(https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff)
Secretary Nielsen privately told lawmakers the Administration may go back to separating children from their parents.
Congress must ensure that NEVER happens.
I'm urging the House Appropriations Committee to prevent funds from ever being used to separate families entering the US:
4:09 PM - Jun 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1009906186752331776)
The Executive Order and Melania Trump at the border was a PR show
Axios reported (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-7bd3f6ec-9f44-462a-ac79-24132fd46302.html) that Trump didn’t sign the executive order because he was upset about the children being separated from their families.
The president upset by the endlessly bad coverage that his policy was getting on cable news.
Trump responded to the bad coverage, and according to Axios everything that we see from the White House was Trump’s idea,
by mounting a propaganda campaign that involved signing the EO, and
sending Melania Trump to the border for what was a photo-op at a shelter, and
canceling a visit to the actual detention center (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/21/melania-trump-photo-op-detention-center.html) where children are being held in cages.
Adam Schiff outed Trump’s real plan
Trump was trying to buy himself cover and make the cable news cameras go away.
The real plan has always been to resume the family separations once people stopped paying attention.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/21/trump-tried-to-con-america-on-family-separations-but-he-just-got-busted-by-adam-schiff.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
The father of this little girl, who lives in Honduras:
You can imagine how I felt when I saw that photo of my daughter. It broke my heart. It’s difficult as a father to see that, but I know now that they are not in danger. They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border,’ he said.
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.muh Time cover
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5869829/amp/Father-two-year-old-face-child-separation-crisis-speaks-out.html
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 08:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgNoAWaWsAYt8rD.jpg
Winehole23
06-21-2018, 09:29 PM
Fresh shipment of unaccompanied children heading to open borders New York. :tuChris applauds the Soviet style long distance removal of minors from the family.
You'd have to ask him why.
ducks
06-21-2018, 10:22 PM
The Honduran toddler pictured sobbing in a pink jacket before U.S. President Donald Trump on an upcoming cover of Time magazine was not separated from her mother at the U.S. border, according to a man who says he is the girl's father.
The powerful original photograph, taken at the scene of a border detention by Getty Images photographer John Moore, became one of the iconic images in the flurry of media coverage about the separation of families by the Trump administration.
Dozens of newspapers and magazines around the globe published the picture, swelling the tide of outrage that pushed Trump to back down Wednesday and say families would no longer be separated.
"My daughter has become a symbol of the ... separation of children at the U.S. border. She may have even touched President Trump's heart," Denis Valera told Reuters in a telephone interview.
Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera's version of events.
Varela said he was awestruck and pained when he first saw the photo of his crying daughter on TV. "Seeing what was happening to her in that moment breaks anyone's heart," he said.
The photo was used on a Facebook fundraiser that drew more than $17 million dollars in donations from close to half a million people for the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES), a Texas-based nonprofit that provides legal defense services to immigrants and refugees.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 10:31 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgJp8doWsAARrTi.jpg
https://twitter.com/WiIIemAlexander/status/1009485932758781953/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwashingtonpress.com%2F2018%2 F06%2F21%2Fthe-king-of-the-netherlands-just-issued-a-brutal-threat-to-trump-over-caged-kids-atrocity%2F
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgNoAWaWsAYt8rD.jpgno shame
1009965421791936513
Spurminator
06-21-2018, 10:58 PM
According to DailyMail, the husband whose wife left him for some reason and took their daughter, who hasn't spoken to his wife or daughter, says they're doing fine and were never separated.
Well, I'm convinced.
boutons_deux
06-21-2018, 11:49 PM
The Billion-Dollar Business of Operating Shelters for Migrant Children
HARLINGEN, Tex. — The business of housing, transporting and watching over migrant children detained along the southwest border is not a multimillion-dollar business.
It’s a billion-dollar one.
The nonprofit Southwest Key Programs has won at least $955 million in federal contracts since 2015 to run shelters
and provide other services to immigrant children in federal custody.
Its shelter for migrant boys at a former Walmart Supercenter (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/family-separation-migrant-children-detention.html) in South Texas has been the focus of nationwide scrutiny,
but Southwest Key is but
one player in the lucrative, secretive world of the migrant-shelter business.
About a dozen contractors operate more than 30 facilities in Texas alone, with numerous others contracted for about 100 shelters in 16 other states.
If there is a migrant-shelter hub in America, then it is perhaps in the four-county Rio Grande Valley region of South Texas,
where about a dozen shelters occupy former stores, schools and medical centers.
They are some of the region’s biggest employers, though what happens inside is often highly confidential:
One group has employees sign nondisclosure agreements, more a fixture of the high-stakes corporate world than of nonprofit child-care centers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/migrant-shelters-border-crossing.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
non-profit, but I'd like to see the salaries of the executives.
boutons_deux
06-22-2018, 06:26 AM
Process To Reunite Detained Children With Immigrant Families Is ‘Total Chaos’
Immigration experts say there is no system in place to bring separated families back together.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5b2c4ebf2200006c03eec374.jpeg?cache=bswc2ureci&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale
“Please help us get back together,” she said in a soft voice as she cried.
García told her the truth: “We can’t guarantee you’re going to be reunited with your son any time soon,” the Texas lawyer said, and he watched a hopeless expression stretch across her face.
Out of the seven migrants he interviewed that morning, only one of the parents had received any information from Border Patrol about how to contact their child ― a small piece of paper with a 1-800 hotline number set up by the federal Office of Refugee Resettlement.
“If there is a [reunification] system in place, it’s not being communicated to the parents who just lost their children,” García said.
“They don’t understand anything that’s going on;
they don’t know how to get in touch with their kids.
Everything is extremely difficult for them.”
no clear plan for reuniting more than 2,300 kids with their families.
The situation is so bad that John Sandweg, the former head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, told MSNBC he thinks that
Trump’s zero tolerance policy could result in the long-term (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/permanent-separation-children-border-john-sandweg-ice_us_5b2a1bdde4b0f0b9e9a6e0e3) separation of families and that some may “never see each other again.”
Migrants have already (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html) been deported from the U.S. without their children.
Immigration experts who are working to reunite parents with their children say
the government has no system in place to solve a problem of its own making.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/process-reunite-immigrant-children-families-chaos_us_5b2c4b4ae4b0321a01cf80b5?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__062218&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__062218+CID_c7e018fc b8e9c75c084a2d4deb9aa4eb&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=process%20to%20reunite&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__062218
boutons_deux
06-22-2018, 08:29 AM
Brian Kilmeade on Trump’s Child Separation Policies: ‘These Aren’t Our Kids,’ It’s Not Like They’re From ‘Idaho or Texas’
“Somebody has to deal with this issue,” Kilmeade said. “We just can’t let everybody in that wants to be here.”
Shortly after that, Kilmeade topped off his commentary with this statement:
“Like it or not, these aren’t our kids.
Show them compassion, :LOL
but it’s not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas.
These are people from another country and
now people are saying that they’re more important than people in our country :lol
who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.”
https://www.mediaite.com/online/brian-kilmeade-on-trumps-child-separation-policies-these-arent-our-kids-its-not-like-theyre-from-texas-or-idaho/
boutons_deux
06-22-2018, 08:36 AM
Trash: ‘Republicans Should Stop Wasting Their Time On Immigration’
... until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November,” the president wrote on Twitter.
“Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!”
it is Republicans who cannot agree among themselves, and
they are the ones obstructing the process.
In a laughable tweet the president wrote:
“Elect more Republicans in November and
we will pass the finest, fairest and most comprehensive Immigration Bills anywhere in the world. :lol
Right now we have the dumbest and the worst.
Dems are doing nothing but Obstructing. Remember their motto, RESIST!
Ours is PRODUCE!” :lol
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/22/trump-republicans-should-stop-wasting-their-time-on-immigration.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
PVL so-called Pres Trash is profoundly ill, and He's Not My President
Trill Clinton
06-22-2018, 10:02 AM
Why is our first lady going to meet immigrant families dressed like a teenage thot?
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 10:06 AM
According to DailyMail, the husband whose wife left him for some reason and took their daughter, who hasn't spoken to his wife or daughter, says they're doing fine and were never separated.
Well, I'm convinced.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-patrol-agent-involved-dramatic-photo-girl-crying-at-border-speaks-out/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=53370995
Moore's image is now on the cover of Time magazine next to a picture of President Trump.
"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying."
Moore says Ruiz and other agents acted professionally that night. But he is happy with the cover and the response to the image.
"Oftentimes, immigration is talked about in terms of statistics, and when you put a human face and humanize an issue, you make people feel. And when you make people feel, they have compassion. And if I've done just a little bit of that, then that's OK," Moore said.
According to DailyMail, the husband whose wife left him for some reason and took their daughter, who hasn't spoken to his wife or daughter, says they're doing fine and were never separated.
Well, I'm convinced.
Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.
Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera’s version of events.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 10:11 AM
Dennisonistas really clinging to this.
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 10:15 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-patrol-agent-involved-dramatic-photo-girl-crying-at-border-speaks-out/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=53370995
Moore's image is now on the cover of Time magazine next to a picture of President Trump.
"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying."
Moore says Ruiz and other agents acted professionally that night. But he is happy with the cover and the response to the image.
"Oftentimes, immigration is talked about in terms of statistics, and when you put a human face and humanize an issue, you make people feel. And when you make people feel, they have compassion. And if I've done just a little bit of that, then that's OK," Moore said.
The original photo was always clearly captioned to indicate that the daughter and her mother were together when it was taken. There were several subsequent profiles of the photo and the photographer that made this clear as well. The Time cover is an obvious mockup of two famous photos - Do you really think they're expecting people to believe that Donald Trump was photographed yelling at this girl?
I get you come from a place where people see a photo of Obama with Muslim garb Photoshopped onto him and think he's a member of ISIS, but not everyone is that stupid.
There are plenty of reasons to take issue with the cover but calling it misleading is silly. It literally could have been made with scissors and glue.
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 10:18 AM
Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.
Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera’s version of events.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUSKBN1JI07W
That's a better source, good job. Seems she was seeking asylum. Perhaps from her husband.
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 10:25 AM
The original photo was always clearly captioned to indicate that the daughter and her mother were together when it was taken. There were several subsequent profiles of the photo and the photographer that made this clear as well. The Time cover is an obvious mockup of two famous photos - Do you really think they're expecting people to believe that Donald Trump was photographed yelling at this girl?
:lmao
No, you stupid fuck.
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 10:26 AM
But Darrin is outraged all the same.
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 10:27 AM
But Darrin is outraged all the same.
my outrage --> :lmao
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 10:31 AM
my outrage --> :lmao
You bolded your outrage above, Darrin.
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 10:36 AM
:lmao
No, you stupid fuck.
That's good, let the frustration out. Then what's the problem, snowflake?
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 10:40 AM
Welp, this Time cover means that the 2000 children were never actually separated from their families -- which means we can go back to separating children from their families -- which we never did.
Fabbs
06-22-2018, 10:49 AM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-patrol-agent-involved-dramatic-photo-girl-crying-at-border-speaks-out/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=53370995
Moore's image is now on the cover of Time magazine next to a picture of President Trump.
"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying."
Moore says Ruiz and other agents acted professionally that night. But he is happy with the cover and the response to the image.
"Oftentimes, immigration is talked about in terms of statistics, and when you put a human face and humanize an issue, you make people feel. And when you make people feel, they have compassion. And if I've done just a little bit of that, then that's OK," Moore said.
Moore finds a picture of a little girl temporarily crying as she is set down by her mother for 120 seconds.
What a scoop. So many reasons to be proud.
Scoop Moore.
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 10:49 AM
Hope this woman has some bodyguards
1010127554106331136
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 11:03 AM
Hope this woman has some bodyguards
1010127554106331136Yeah, they are going to kill her. Obviously Laguna Beach Antifa.
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 11:06 AM
Yeah, they are going to kill her. Obviously Laguna Beach Antifa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdc4ZAAEpm0
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 11:11 AM
:cry
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 11:20 AM
Nazis everywhere!
Resistards losing their f'ing minds
Dems, please use the deplorables strategy recommended below. Worked so well last time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26TweSnr21c
I remember back when invoking Godwin's law was an instant white flag. :lol
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 11:24 AM
Anyway, perhaps it would be more productive to observe and discuss the assumptions at the root of our immigration policy. Some reading required.
Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime, Research Shows
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/immigrants-do-not-increase-crime-research-shows/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sa-editorial-social&utm_content=&utm_term=policy_
We analyzed census data spanning four decades from 1970 to 2010 for 200 randomly selected metropolitan areas, which include center cities and surrounding suburbs. Examining data over time allowed us to assess whether the relationship between immigration and crime changed with the broader U.S. economy and the origin and number of immigrants.
The most striking finding from our research is that for murder, robbery, burglary and larceny, as immigration increased, crime decreased, on average, in American metropolitan areas. The only crime that immigration had no impact on was aggravated assault. These associations are strong and stable evidence that immigration does not cause crime to increase in U.S. metropolitan areas, and may even help reduce it.
Across our studies, one finding remains clear: Cities and neighborhoods with greater concentrations of immigrants have lower rates of crime and violence, all else being equal.
Our research also points to the importance of city context for understanding the immigration-crime relationship. In one study, for example, we found that cities with historically high immigration levels are especially likely to enjoy reduced crime rates as a result of their immigrant populations.
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 11:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdc4ZAAEpm0Yep, she was brutally murdered both times.
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 11:31 AM
Nazis everywhere!
Resistards losing their f'ing minds
Dems, please use the deplorables strategy recommended below. Worked so well last time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26TweSnr21c
I remember back when invoking Godwin's law was an instant white flag. :lolDarrin obediently monitoring MSNBC.
Spurminator
06-22-2018, 11:34 AM
Now, on to the next fake outrage
Proceeds to post a hundred videos of protesters and pundits being mean. :cry
What a stupid pussy you are, Darrin. What a useless piece of human garbage.
DarrinS
06-22-2018, 11:40 AM
Proceeds to post a hundred videos of protesters and pundits being mean. :cry
What a stupid pussy you are, Darrin. What a useless piece of human garbage.
http://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx
Pavlov
06-22-2018, 11:44 AM
Proceeds to post a hundred videos of protesters and pundits being mean. :cry
What a stupid pussy you are, Darrin. What a useless piece of human garbage.Watch out Darrin. Words mean he's Antifa and obviously wants to murder you.
I hope you have a bodyguard.
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