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tholdren
03-18-2020, 02:33 PM
Lol the government said so. The same government that can’t get testing out to begin with. The same government you criticized for shutting down businesses. But now when it fits your delusion they’re the almighty authority.
I already posted some bullet points from a study that clearly states that testing and tracking is paramount.
The government hahaha. You’re hilarious.
How much to get your name changed to Typhoid Holdren.
Your yahoo.com study? Lol
BacktoBasics
03-18-2020, 02:34 PM
Health departments running the sho now doltNow you look really stupid. Health department has echoed that widespread testing, tracing and isolating should have been the focus long ago.
You just don’t know who to reference do you.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 02:34 PM
Now you look really stupid. Health department has echoed that widespread testing, tracing and isolating should have been the focus long ago.
You just don’t know who reference do you.
Oh my. This post will not age well for you.....
Spurs Homer
03-18-2020, 02:35 PM
Just checking to see if someone can direct me to the posts where cultist trump fellators apologized to the board for their mistaken propaganda yet?
trump changed his tune - im sure the fellators did also?
BacktoBasics
03-18-2020, 02:36 PM
Your yahoo.com study? Lol
Whatever you say Typhoid.
Or is it the health department
Or the government
Or fringe conspiracy weirdos
Or grandma typhoid with the sniffles
BacktoBasics
03-18-2020, 02:39 PM
Just checking to see if someone can direct me to the posts where cultist trump fellators apologized to the board for their mistaken propaganda yet?
trump changed his tune - im sure the fellators did also?Thats the funniest thing about Typhoid Holdren. First the red hats said it was a hoax. Now if you visit other forums with strong red hat numbers they’re talking about how reasonable all the shut downs and isolations are. The echo chamber supporting how severe things are is stronger.
Then you have Spurstalks very own Typhoid who’s not really sure exactly where he should stand on this so he selectively picks bits and pieces so he doesn’t look like he’s back peddling away from a room full of dry coughers.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 02:43 PM
Whatever you say Typhoid.
Or is it the health department
Or the government
Or fringe conspiracy weirdos
Or grandma typhoid with the sniffles
You cried about the testing. I said it didn't matter about the testing because only the high risk should go get tested, specifically elderly with preexisting. You said no everyone needs tested that is why so many people had it.
Health department officials now: only high risk should go get tested. If you are 85 percent of the population dont worry. Practice good hygiene stay home if sick.
You were wrong. You got blinded by the media and yahoo. Like illogical others it doesnt matter. Just own it and move on. The health department did.
And before you respond, they also state that they will never know the actual rate of infection or who had it.
Sad for you
tholdren
03-18-2020, 02:46 PM
Thats the funniest thing about Typhoid Holdren. First the red hats said it was a hoax. Now if you visit other forums with strong red hat numbers they’re talking about how reasonable all the shut downs and isolations are. The echo chamber supporting how severe things are is stronger.
Then you have Spurstalks very own Typhoid who’s not really sure exactly where he should stand on this so he selectively picks bits and pieces so he doesn’t look like he’s back peddling away from a room full of dry coughers.
Really. Backpedaling? That the best you got? No evidence or yahoo editorials to back it up.
Frenchfred
03-18-2020, 02:53 PM
Yes you are right. But what they are saying is that testing doesnt matter. Practice good hygiene if you dont show symptoms. If you are showing symptoms stay home like a normal hygienic person
Further. If you are in the 85 percent it wont matter if you get tested. You will not need medical attention therefore it does not matter if you get tested...
Yes at risk are always at risk. But they also may or may not have already had it. Stay separated use good hygiene. A test shouldn't make you need to use good hygiene
Believing that EVERYBODY will have the necessary hygiene, especially kids, is ludicrous. By the time you are showing symptom, you have potentially contaminated hundreds of people. Yes, you should isolate yourself at that point but the goal is to avoid that. I don't care if I'm in that 85%, I'm still young and in good physical condition so I know that I have little chance of having any complication but I could carry the disease and contaminate others, for example my 80-year old who has a very poor health. Trust me, I don't want to have his death on my conscience simply because I was dumb enough to put him at risk.
If you believe that everybody should be contaminated to develop antibodies, then, that is a different approach. I don't know if that's the right one, for sure, it will lead to hundreds of thousand of dead (mostly among elderly and sick people) but that could be a strategy to prepare the population in case another wave of coronavirus arrives
tholdren
03-18-2020, 03:04 PM
Believing that EVERYBODY will have the necessary hygiene, especially kids, is ludicrous. By the time you are showing symptom, you have potentially contaminated hundreds of people. Yes, you should isolate yourself at that point but the goal is to avoid that. I don't care if I'm in that 85%, I'm still young and in good physical condition so I know that I have little chance of having any complication but I could carry the disease and contaminate others, for example my 80-year old who has a very poor health. Trust me, I don't want to have his death on my conscience simply because I was dumb enough to put him at risk.
If you believe that everybody should be contaminated to develop antibodies, then, that is a different approach. I don't know if that's the right one, for sure, it will lead to hundreds of thousand of dead (mostly among elderly and sick people) but that could be a strategy to prepare the population in case another wave of coronavirus arrives
I agree with you at this point believing that everyone will have good hygiene is kind of odd at this point... but I believe that this incident will raise awareness in many and ultimately lead to reduction in viral infections overall. I'm thinking like the HIV. Kind of similar to start. Lots of community backing behind this it seems.
Ultimately, as I have said before, no one knows, including me, but I still am sticking with my original stance. If you let it go uncontrollably, does it still kill as many as if you put in personal hygiene insurances aka quarantine? Who knows.
You mention you have a frail 80 year old. My point would be to not go around. I would include that in being an unnecessary risk for you and the 80yo. But I also dont think your life should be put on pause, unless you wanted it to be. And maybe the 80yo too. Shouldn't that be a personal choice?
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 03:11 PM
Well chumpdump flames out again... lol health professionals not on your side after this starts to shake out. Lol this always happens to you...:lmao declaring victory over things everyone already knows and agrees about.
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 03:11 PM
Really. Backpedaling?Actually you've been flat out agreeing with us.
:rollin
This always happens with you.
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 03:14 PM
Yes you are right.:lmao
tholdren
03-18-2020, 03:52 PM
:lmao
You are not smart. He is right. Symptomatic doesnt mean positive and asymptomatic doesnt mean negative. Which means testing is IRRELEVANT, which is what health departments are pushing now.
This is in direct disagreement with you who said everyone needs tested.
Lol you and context dont fit. Again, I was right. People running govt say tests dont matter, just act like you have it for hygiene purposes, and only test if you are preexisting condition.
All things I have said since this first happened. I win. Again
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 03:55 PM
You are not smart. He is right. Symptomatic doesnt mean positive and asymptomatic doesnt mean negative. Which means testing is IRRELEVANT, which is what health departments are pushing now.
This is in direct disagreement with you who said everyone needs tested.:lol It's not like everyone can be tested.
Agree?
Of course you do.
You lose again. Posting fallacy after fallacy then agreeing with everyone you're trying to argue with for no reason whatsoever.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 03:57 PM
:lol It's not like everyone can be tested.
Agree?
Of course you do.
You lose again.
Nope cant turn it back now.... deflection again. Quick follow up with out of context information and questions... lololo pwned
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 03:58 PM
Nope cant turn it back now.... deflection again. Quick follow up with out of context information and questions... lololo pwnedYou didn't answer the question. You lose and will only talk about me from now on. Happens every time.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:00 PM
the only way to stop the coronavirus is to test everyone .
Pwned.
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:02 PM
Pwned.:lol fake quote redirects back to itself.
You really worked to make it look real.
Why do you have to lie?
Explain.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:03 PM
:lol fake quote redirects back to itself.
You really worked to make it look real.
Why do you have to lie?
Explain.
Pwned
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:05 PM
:cryYou didn't answer the question.
Why did you lie about what I said?
BackHome
03-18-2020, 04:07 PM
Can’t we all just get along. Lol
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:09 PM
have to test to stop this virus it's the only.way
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:14 PM
[another fake quote]Why do you keep lying?
Is this how you think you win?
:lol
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:19 PM
Instead of testing just take temperatures of employees that will eliminate the virus
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:24 PM
[Third fake quote in a row]:lol I broke tholdren
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:26 PM
Why do you keep lying?
Is this how you think you win?
:lol
Nope already won. See all the other posts.
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
I said it was not.
Heath department said testing not needed for everyone
Anything else?
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:27 PM
Nope already won. See all the other posts.:lol so you're just lying for fun?
You said that testing was needed for everyone.Link?
A real, not made up by you link?
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:37 PM
:lol so you're just lying for fun?
Link?
A real, not made up by you link?
Lol. Man. You understand how wrong you were? The government has set up like 3 screens before you can get tested because of all the misinformation you and people like you have spread.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
I said you are wrong
Health department said since people cant practice hygiene we must shut down and please dont get a test unless you are at high risk and get screened 3 times by phone before going to the doctor
You were wayyyyy wrong
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:40 PM
Lol. Man. You understand how wrong you were? The government has set up like 3 screens before you can get tested because of all the misinformation you and people like you have spread.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.:lol another lie.
You're just nonstop lying now.
I broke you.
You lost because you're fighting for no reason.
:lol
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:43 PM
5 Days Ago#355
ChumpDumper
sick demented ring******My Team
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Through yesterday, there had been about 14,000 tests done nationwide in total. Not sure what the number is after today, but over half of those were done yesterday (8k). I'd imagine they've done something more than that today, so it might have doubled again today but we're obviously way behind.
Yeah, super late at this point but at least we can document this shit to avoid a similar clusterfuck in the future.
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:44 PM
Uh oh....
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:44 PM
Do you need more?
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:47 PM
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 0 Likes
3 Days Ago#470
tholdren
Less is MoreMy Team
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
All you've done is downplay every single aspect of this outbreak.
Why?
I haven't. The have put to the forefront the issue. The focus is on testing when it should be on hygiene and prevention not shutdown. I have put to the forefront exactly what the cdc says is the issue. Healthy low risk people getting tested and taking resources from the people that need it. I have also put to the forefront that this is the same issue as the flu, which it is. The most fragile will be impacted at a higher level.
I have asked you what your ideas are for next flu season. And you just deflect. So go for it
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:48 PM
Do you need more?Yeah, I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
Let's see them.
th:loldren
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:50 PM
5 Days Ago#355
ChumpDumper
sick demented ring******My Team
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Through yesterday, there had been about 14,000 tests done nationwide in total. Not sure what the number is after today, but over half of those were done yesterday (8k). I'd imagine they've done something more than that today, so it might have doubled again today but we're obviously way behind.
Yeah, super late at this point but at least we can document this shit to avoid a similar clusterfuck in the future.
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:51 PM
That just said we're behind in testing. Which we were and are.
Do you need more?Yeah, I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
Let's see them.
th:loldren
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:52 PM
So you cant read above? What you were saying we need less testing? Yikes. You just a psychopath
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:53 PM
So you cant read above? What you were saying we need less testing?
I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
Let's see them.
Or you can admit you've been lying this whole time.
th:loldren
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:56 PM
So you didn't type this?
Yeah, super late at this point but at least we can document this shit to avoid a similar clusterfuck in the future.
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 04:57 PM
So you didn't type this?
Yeah, super late at this point but at least we can document this shit to avoid a similar clusterfuck in the future.I did. It said we're behind on testing. Which we were and still are.
I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
Let's see them.
Or you can admit you've been lying this whole time.
th:loldren
tholdren
03-18-2020, 04:58 PM
I did. It said we're behind on testing. Which we were and still are.
I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
Let's see them.
th:loldren
Lololololol behind on testing AFTER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT has repeatedly said too many people are.trying to get tested.... lololololo
104k
Lolololol
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 05:00 PM
Lololololol behind on testing AFTER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT has repeatedly said too many people are.trying to get tested.... lololololo
104k
Lolololol I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
You said that testing was needed for everyone.
You said hygiene doesnt matter. Only testing.
Let's see them.
Or you can admit you've been lying this whole time.
th:loldren
Do you have these quotes or not?
tholdren
03-18-2020, 05:05 PM
I need the quotes where I say these things you claimed:
Let's see them.
Or you can admit you've been lying this whole time.
th:loldren
Do you have these quotes or not?
Lolololololol 104k trying to weasel out of it after being completely wrong. At least admit how wrong you were about testing.
I will produce the posts at that time... lol 104k BEHIND IN TESTING lolololololo because you said everyone should go and get tested. Lololololol
Just dumb
ChumpDumper
03-18-2020, 05:07 PM
Lolololololol 104k trying to weasel out of it after being completely wrong. At least admit how wrong you were about testing.What I said was and is true. The US was and is behind.
I will produce the posts at that time... lol 104k BEHIND IN TESTING lolololololo because you said everyone should go and get tested. Lololololol
Just dumbWhere's the quote of my saying everyone should get tested.
You certainly haven't posted one yet.:tu
Just remember I was the one who broke you, Pigpen.
BacktoBasics
03-18-2020, 05:21 PM
Pwned.
Like how trendy you are changing O to a P. Far out and groovy.
Frenchfred
03-18-2020, 05:39 PM
I agree with you at this point believing that everyone will have good hygiene is kind of odd at this point... but I believe that this incident will raise awareness in many and ultimately lead to reduction in viral infections overall. I'm thinking like the HIV. Kind of similar to start. Lots of community backing behind this it seems.
Ultimately, as I have said before, no one knows, including me, but I still am sticking with my original stance. If you let it go uncontrollably, does it still kill as many as if you put in personal hygiene insurances aka quarantine? Who knows.
You mention you have a frail 80 year old. My point would be to not go around. I would include that in being an unnecessary risk for you and the 80yo. But I also dont think your life should be put on pause, unless you wanted it to be. And maybe the 80yo too. Shouldn't that be a personal choice?
HIV is a little bit more complicated to transmit.
It is not a personal choice. As anybody can be a carrier, your choice of roaming around puts other people in danger. I don't mind putting my life on hold for several weeks to prevent avoidable deaths. Sorry, I guess you don't understand the meaning of pandemic or you don't care, either way this is very dangerous for our society.
ducks
03-18-2020, 05:47 PM
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Frenchfred
03-18-2020, 05:59 PM
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the bible beaters who care about saving a group of cells but don’t give a sh!t about other human beings when born. I always love that hypocrisy.
SayTown
03-18-2020, 06:51 PM
The humidity has nothing to do with transmission of the virus. It’s already here, by the way, so it can’t be “kept away”. It’s transmitted like a cold. You pick it up from a surface, or someone’s hand, and you touch your nose/mouth, or rub you eyes.
Please don’t post misinformation because it makes you feel better, or safe.
Yes I'll continue to believe that and you can continue living in fear because you want to be like everyone else and panic.
Sugus
03-18-2020, 09:12 PM
Yes I'll continue to believe that and you can continue living in fear because you want to be like everyone else and panic.
They say that beliefs cannot be wrong, because they are a person's unique and irrational ideas to adhere to. But you're wrong on the facts there... High or low humidity doesn't matter, because the virus can be transmitted person-to-person besides from staying on surfaces. If you get coughed, sneezed, or heavily breathed-on,or even have contact with an infected person, it's a trip to disease land, no matter the outside weather. I do hope for the best for San Antonians, but you really shouldn't be spreading misinformation just because you choose to believe it to feel safer.
emanueldavidginobili
03-18-2020, 09:28 PM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
hombre
03-18-2020, 10:02 PM
You understand that no one here argues with more tests would be more confirmed cases right? You argued that the more tests the higher the mortality rate... which is statistically impoasible
Not true, testing people who died recently of pneumonia would reveal more cases of mortality via c19.
weebo
03-18-2020, 10:11 PM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
As someone who's already watching this unfold, stay safe brother.
Prime BEEF
03-18-2020, 10:18 PM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
Be safe. Best of luck
hombre
03-18-2020, 10:23 PM
All of you haters who tell yourselves that you have a special handle on the truth. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA
ElNono
03-18-2020, 10:50 PM
All of you haters who tell yourselves that you have a special handle on the truth. :lol Even Politifact says that one of the big stories being pushed by media and Biden was bullshit:
...fact-checking website PolitiFact called out Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden with a "mostly false" rating over a recent claim that the United States "refused" to accept coronavirus testing kits offered by the World Health Organization.
Biden made the claim during Sunday night's Democratic presidential primary debate against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in response to a question about President Donald Trump's handling of the current coronavirus outbreak. "President Trump says he does not take any responsibility for the problems with coronavirus testing, in part because he says he inherited so many rules, regulations, and red tape," debate moderator Jake Tapper said to the former vice president, according to a Rev transcript. "Did bureaucratic red tape hamper this response in any way?" The group is WHO's arm in the Americas. It conducted trainings and sent materials to conduct tests to 29 nations. The list included Paraguay, Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, and many others. "No; look, the World Health Organization offered, offered the testing kits that they have available and to give it to us now," Biden responded.
The group (WHO) said it focused most of its efforts on "countries with the weakest health systems." "No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity." The post goes on to explain that Biden's comments leave out context about how different countries chose which kind of test to use, based on multiple different models. Even if the United States had adopted the same testing model of the World Health Organization preferred — which it didn't — the country wouldn't have needed the WHO to send supplies.
While the U.S. didn't try to employ the WHO test model, "Biden's emphasis on WHO offering kits is simply wrong," PolitiFact concludes. "We rate this claim mostly false."
Biden is full of shit. Doesn't make Dear Leader any less full of shit either. We're all losers in this one.
BacktoBasics
03-18-2020, 11:12 PM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
Good luck friend. Safe travels.
...make sure you wear a rubber.
hombre
03-18-2020, 11:51 PM
That's not news. There's no science in there, just misinformation to keep you distracted from this train wreck of a Federal response. Now all of you intentionally misinformed people are behind the curve and are spewing the same misinformation on a message board - covid is a hoax, it's not a big deal, Italy has a worse healthcare system and it can't happen here, there's a million test kits, it's not going to be worse than the flu because less people have died from it, or that the radical left wing media is overhyping a pandemic. Just stop.
Gibbz
03-19-2020, 12:01 AM
the bible beaters who care about saving a group of cells but don’t give a sh!t about other human beings when born. I always love that hypocrisy.
"If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're FUCKED." -Carlin
Also, imagine believing ANY form of popular American media is "radical left wing." :lol
hombre
03-19-2020, 12:40 AM
Would you Republicans call your congress people tomorrow and tell them we need to test everyone now to stop C19 and when they start bailing out corporations in the next few days, they should given loans and not corporate welfare.
Thank you from all the Democrats.
Frenchfred
03-19-2020, 02:22 AM
"If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're FUCKED." -Carlin
Also, imagine believing ANY form of popular American media is "radical left wing." :lol
In the rest of the world, we believe that CNN is american propaganda :lol
When you see that now conservative believe that the FBI (a known republican institution), that people like Muller who have been long time republican with a resume that puts any of them to shame are serving the democrats, that shows that a lot of these people are lost and gone from sanity. They would believe anything their leader tell them, trump was right, he could kill somebody on 5th avenue and would still defend him, I'm 100% sure of that, even on this forum, I'd say that half of them would find a way to justify the murder. It has become crazy.
Regarding religion, what's crazy to me is that Jesus was a socialist. He helped mainly the poor and said about the rich that they wouldn't go to heaven (the needle story). Most christians in the US live their life the opposite way, they defend the rich and they say that the poor deserve to be poor. Those people have no read the bible, they just use some parts to justify their choice (anti-abortion, anti-gay) but completely ignore the rest. Religion is the biggest hypocrisy the world has ever seen. I love when they tell me I'll go to hell, I look at them and tell them: the way you live your life, you'll be there with me.
Maddog
03-19-2020, 05:30 AM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
Thanks for your help in this pandemic.
TDMVPDPOY
03-19-2020, 05:47 AM
Just got word I’ll be deploying on the USNS Mercy which is currently in San Diego. From what I’ve heard we will be taking over trauma patients and everything else other than COVID-19 patients so the actual hospitals can just focus on that. I’m guessing we will be going to SF or Seattle possibly, I’ll have more info on it tomorrow on what the hell is going on.
USA should pull a ITALY, purge off the elderly....as for the chumps who dont contribute to society living on welfare for life as a choice, they should be purge also...oh yeh, the illegals also...thats why italy is doing nothing, let the virus takes its course...
BacktoBasics
03-19-2020, 07:29 AM
USA should pull a ITALY, purge off the elderly....as for the chumps who dont contribute to society living on welfare for life as a choice, they should be purge also...oh yeh, the illegals also...thats why italy is doing nothing, let the virus takes its course...
You forgot to mention beheading black people. You can’t go on a rant like that leave out your most hated minority.
Atl Spur
03-19-2020, 10:14 AM
USA should pull a ITALY, purge off the elderly....as for the chumps who dont contribute to society living on welfare for life as a choice, they should be purge also...oh yeh, the illegals also...thats why italy is doing nothing, let the virus takes its course...
You sound stupid....... not ignorant........stupid!
Frenchfred
03-19-2020, 10:40 AM
USA should pull a ITALY, purge off the elderly....as for the chumps who dont contribute to society living on welfare for life as a choice, they should be purge also...oh yeh, the illegals also...thats why italy is doing nothing, let the virus takes its course...
Besides your stupidity, where did you see that Italy is doing nothing? The country is in quarantine. That's the only way the spread will stop. China has nearly eradicated the virus after 5-6 weeks of lock down.
Also, do you know that a lot of young people are hospitalized in the US (20% of people in hospital for the coronavirus are between 20 and 44 year old and 18% between 45 and 54). Obesity apparently plays a big factor so in a country like the US where obesity and overweight is the norm (39.8 and 31.8%, respectively), I wouldn't be as stupid as you. Statistically, you might be in that category since 70% of your population is fat.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-age-victims/index.html
Spurs Homer
03-19-2020, 12:22 PM
Cheking in again...boil it down - only question that matters:
Have the Trump fellators spit the tiny mushroom out of their cockholsters yet?
dbestpro
03-19-2020, 01:29 PM
It may of interest that China ran out of tests too and changed to doing chest x-rays, particularly for people under 30. It seems the virus can create permanent lung damage particularly for people who smoke, vap including tobacco, and marijuana.
Frenchfred
03-19-2020, 01:48 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/on-fox-news-suddenly-a-very-different-tune-about-the-coronavirus/2020/03/16/7a7637cc-678f-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html
Nothing else to say about Fauxnews, anybody who thinks that they are an objective news channel has a problem.
BackHome
03-19-2020, 01:52 PM
I hear Sanders is looking for a PR man you applying “Frenched”?
Gibbz
03-19-2020, 02:16 PM
It always astonishes me when anyone under the age of 75 watches Fox News. TV news in general is fucking poison.
Frenchfred
03-19-2020, 02:44 PM
I hear Sanders is looking for a PR man you applying “Frenched”?
I think that Sanders is too far on the left. I believe in a public healthcare and education system for anybody to have access to without going into bankruptcy if they are sick or if they want an education (my in-laws are americans and they have both situations). I think that having the most educated and healthy population is more important than to have one trillion dollar defense budget.
Saying that, I'm not a socialist, I think that my country is way too far on the left. If you think that Obama was a socialist, you should come to France. I think that small businesses should be helped as much as possible, I think that self-employed people and small business owners are the heart of a nation. I have no problem helping those people and them making a lot of money as a result of their hard work.
But I believe that giant corporations should not be given any handouts and shouldn't be allowed to do some fiscal optimization. If Apple doesn't want to pay taxes in the US and wants to pay them in the Caiman island for example, then they should move their headquarter there and do their business there without having access to the US market. It is not normal that these corporations use the infrastructure and protection that our countries have to offer without financing them.
I believe that capitalism will collapse if the wealth is not distributed better. Capitalism only works if people buy good and services. Even though you might think that you pay a lot of taxes and your government spends a lot of money, the US is one of the countries with the lowest public spending (~35% of GDP) and one of the lowest tax system in the world so hard to blame your difficulties on those.
Even though I criticize the Republicans , I really love your country. I lived there for a long time as a scientist (yes I do really have a PhD), my wife and in-laws are Americans. I just don't believe that the direction is going right now is the right one.
Atl Spur
03-19-2020, 02:55 PM
I think that Sanders is too far on the left. I believe in a public healthcare and education system for anybody to have access to without going into bankruptcy if they are sick or if they want an education (my in-laws are americans and they have both situations). I think that having the most educated and healthy population is more important than to have one trillion dollar defense budget.
Saying that, I'm not a socialist, I think that my country is way too far on the left. If you think that Obama was a socialist, you should come to France. I think that small businesses should be helped as much as possible, I think that self-employed people and small business owners are the heart of a nation. I have no problem helping those people and them making a lot of money as a result of their hard work.
But I believe that giant corporations should not be given any handouts and shouldn't be allowed to do some fiscal optimization. If Apple doesn't want to pay taxes in the US and wants to pay them in the Caiman island for example, then they should move their headquarter there and do their business there without having access to the US market. It is not normal that these corporations use the infrastructure and protection that our countries have to offer without financing them.
I believe that capitalism will collapse if the wealth is not distributed better. Capitalism only works if people buy good and services. Even though you might think that you pay a lot of taxes and your government spends a lot of money, the US is one of the countries with the lowest public spending (~35% of GDP) and one of the lowest tax system in the world so hard to blame your difficulties on those.
Even though I criticize the Republicans , I really love your country. I lived there for a long time as a scientist (yes I do really have a PhD), my wife and in-laws are Americans. I just don't believe that the direction is going right now is the right one.
Hello friend. The idiocy on this board does not reflect the position of most Americans.
Frenchfred
03-19-2020, 03:18 PM
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89913646_10163166313410147_3857074648365662208_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=kBNAysmrU5QAX93e05l&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=3a2c5139849d20ccd8bd564c5b475efd&oe=5E94B926
Today the 19th, the US has more than 11 000 cases (with still a really low number of testing) compared to the 7375 for Italy at the same time. The rate of contamination is following the same trend. Fortunately, so far the number of deaths is not.
slick'81
03-19-2020, 04:40 PM
Today the 19th, the US has more than 11 000 cases (with still a really low number of testing) compared to the 7375 for Italy at the same time. The rate of contamination is following the same trend. Fortunately, so far the number of deaths is not.
This is how the world ends my friends. Gather your loved ones tight and enjoy the time we have left
Shakril
03-19-2020, 05:29 PM
I think that Sanders is too far on the left. I believe in a public healthcare and education system for anybody to have access to without going into bankruptcy if they are sick or if they want an education (my in-laws are americans and they have both situations). I think that having the most educated and healthy population is more important than to have one trillion dollar defense budget.
Saying that, I'm not a socialist, I think that my country is way too far on the left. If you think that Obama was a socialist, you should come to France. I think that small businesses should be helped as much as possible, I think that self-employed people and small business owners are the heart of a nation. I have no problem helping those people and them making a lot of money as a result of their hard work.
But I believe that giant corporations should not be given any handouts and shouldn't be allowed to do some fiscal optimization. If Apple doesn't want to pay taxes in the US and wants to pay them in the Caiman island for example, then they should move their headquarter there and do their business there without having access to the US market. It is not normal that these corporations use the infrastructure and protection that our countries have to offer without financing them.
I believe that capitalism will collapse if the wealth is not distributed better. Capitalism only works if people buy good and services. Even though you might think that you pay a lot of taxes and your government spends a lot of money, the US is one of the countries with the lowest public spending (~35% of GDP) and one of the lowest tax system in the world so hard to blame your difficulties on those.
Even though I criticize the Republicans , I really love your country. I lived there for a long time as a scientist (yes I do really have a PhD), my wife and in-laws are Americans. I just don't believe that the direction is going right now is the right one.
Actually i have the opposite opinion. Most countries are not left enough and Sanders only wants the US to be, were most Europeans already are, dont see anything radical with it. (Note: Right now every policy that is implented is socialism). Too much is sacrificed on the alter of "Profit". Does not mean everything has to be free, but when i look at scandinavian countries i am jealous... and i am already in a wealthy social democracy in Europe.
Smithie
03-19-2020, 05:58 PM
Gather your loved ones tight
That is the last thing you should do.
slick'81
03-19-2020, 06:01 PM
That is the last thing you should do.
Enjoy what you have before its all over
Slippy
03-19-2020, 07:42 PM
USA should pull a ITALY, purge off the elderly....as for the chumps who dont contribute to society living on welfare for life as a choice, they should be purge also...oh yeh, the illegals also...thats why italy is doing nothing, let the virus takes its course...
Terrible post. Using mobile , I inadvertently like this post and cannot undo it.
spurs10
03-19-2020, 10:13 PM
Hello friend. The idiocy on this board does not reflect the position of most Americans. :bobo
Bellboy
03-20-2020, 12:57 PM
The idiocy of the average American is grossly underestimated. If you do not recognize this as a fact, you have just upped the count by one
Atl Spur
03-20-2020, 07:51 PM
The idiocy of the average American is grossly underestimated. If you do not recognize this as a fact, you have just upped the count by one
I think he gets the point but thanks for the info.
Texas eye
03-20-2020, 10:44 PM
New York getting hit hard. We should all pray and be kind during this time.
slick'81
03-20-2020, 10:54 PM
New York getting hit hard. We should all pray and be kind during this time.
Nyc,cal,fla,was st,ill are all getting fcked. Sadly i fear texas is next
BackHome
03-20-2020, 10:56 PM
Next 3 months not going to be pretty lots of folks are going to start getting laid off and won’t be able to find a job for a very long time. Pisses me off that China waited so long to announce the this Virus was rampaging it’s cities even blatantly lying to WHO and now coming out saying they sorry for condemning Dr who came out about the virus.
Atl Spur
03-20-2020, 11:10 PM
Next 3 months not going to be pretty lots of folks are going to start getting laid off and won’t be able to find a job for a very long time. Pisses me off that China waited so long to announce the this Virus was rampaging it’s cities even blatantly lying to WHO and now coming out saying they sorry for condemning Dr who came out about the virus.
Mad at China?????? Ok.....China!
spankadelphia
03-21-2020, 12:40 AM
Nyc,cal,fla,was st,ill are all getting fcked. Sadly i fear texas is next
Is Coronavirus really the slayer of shitlibs and their mongrel pets? Should we be thanking the Chinese and digging a moat around middle America?
Stay tuned!
Frenchfred
03-21-2020, 02:06 AM
Is Coronavirus really the slayer of shitlibs and their mongrel pets? Should we be thanking the Chinese and digging a moat around middle America?
Stay tuned!
yes please do and stay there and don’t come out, we wouldn’t want your retarded genes to mix with the rest of the population
lmbebo
03-21-2020, 08:58 AM
We are going to lose a lot of good people and healthcare workers because of the ignorance and lack of morality of our government. They had been told earlier on it was an issue and ignored. We are paying that price now. With the economy, physicians, nurses, etc.
They should all be locked away for the rest of there lives. People are dead because of there inaction and delay.
hombre
03-21-2020, 09:05 AM
China informed the World Health Organization about C19 two weeks after the first cases there. The US hard our first cases in Washington in January. Not containing it then is Trump's fault. Months later, we still don't have enough test kits only 150,613 tests have been performed so far. Weak.
Did anyone see Trump's press conference yesterday? What a freak show.
BackHome
03-21-2020, 10:43 AM
We are going to lose a lot of good people and healthcare workers because of the ignorance and lack of morality of our government. They had been told earlier on it was an issue and ignored. We are paying that price now. With the economy, physicians, nurses, etc.
They should all be locked away for the rest of there lives. People are dead because of there inaction and delay.
I guess you will say that about every country in Asia, Middle East, and Europe to cause its spreading like a wild fire
BackHome
03-21-2020, 10:49 AM
China informed the World Health Organization about C19 two weeks after the first cases there. The US hard our first cases in Washington in January. Not containing it then is Trump's fault. Months later, we still don't have enough test kits only 150,613 tests have been performed so far. Weak.
Did anyone see Trump's press conference yesterday? What a freak show.
No China new way before and even lied to WHO even though Dr in China were saying the virus was rapidly spreading. So what did they do they shut down all press and the Dr who first came out saying that is DEAD
His name was Li Wenliang and he was brought in by the Chinese security force and was forced to sign a document that said they were spreading lies about this virus. That man was a true HERO.
lmbebo
03-21-2020, 11:47 AM
No China new way before and even lied to WHO even though Dr in China were saying the virus was rapidly spreading. So what did they do they shut down all press and the Dr who first came out saying that is DEAD
His name was Li Wenliang and he was brought in by the Chinese security force and was forced to sign a document that said they were spreading lies about this virus. That man was a true HERO.
China did its part as well, not saying they didnt. But the US government also screwed us hard and continue to do so.
They should have come down harder much earlier. Stopped all international travel back in January. Started ramping us production of PPE and Ventilators in January at the minimum. I have too many friends and myself who are risking themselves for there ineptitude.
BackHome
03-21-2020, 12:54 PM
It’s funny you say that but when Trump did shut down China travel he got called a racist and got killed in the media for doing it. When he shut down all Europe travel he got trashed by all the European countries who now suddenly are doing the same thing he did “Who New Border Were So Important”?
The states can do things they don’t need the Government for everything that’s why our founding fathers have the States so much power ie. California governor deciding to close everything down except essential personal so it’s not all on one person. Things will get worse but but not just in USA but everywhere except maybe Antarctica.
exstatic
03-21-2020, 02:26 PM
It’s funny you say that but when Trump did shut down China travel he got called a racist and got killed in the media for doing it. When he shut down all Europe travel he got trashed by all the European countries who now suddenly are doing the same thing he did “Who New Border Were So Important”?
The states can do things they don’t need the Government for everything that’s why our founding fathers have the States so much power ie. California governor deciding to close everything down except essential personal so it’s not all on one person. Things will get worse but but not just in USA but everywhere except maybe Antarctica.
I’d like you to provide quotes where anyone called him racist for stopping air travel to/from China. If people criticized him, it was for doing it SO FUCKING LATE. He is a fucking racist for intentionally switching terminology from covid19, which the administration had used for over two months, to the China virus, in an attempt to deflect blame from himself.
The only good thing that might come out of this would be his ignominious defeat in November. His slow response likely will bump the death toll from 500k to 2M, mostly seniors...Fox News Watchers. He won in 2016 by only 100K votes spread over three key states.
ChumpDumper
03-21-2020, 02:52 PM
It’s funny you say that but when Trump did shut down China travel he got called a racist and got killed in the media for doing it. When he shut down all Europe travel he got trashed by all the European countries who now suddenly are doing the same thing he did “Who New Border Were So Important”?
The states can do things they don’t need the Government for everything that’s why our founding fathers have the States so much power ie. California governor deciding to close everything down except essential personal so it’s not all on one person. Things will get worse but but not just in USA but everywhere except maybe Antarctica.Has Trump done anything wrong in this situation?
weebo
03-21-2020, 03:06 PM
It’s funny you say that but when Trump did shut down China travel he got called a racist and got killed in the media for doing it. When he shut down all Europe travel he got trashed by all the European countries who now suddenly are doing the same thing he did “Who New Border Were So Important”?
The states can do things they don’t need the Government for everything that’s why our founding fathers have the States so much power ie. California governor deciding to close everything down except essential personal so it’s not all on one person. Things will get worse but but not just in USA but everywhere except maybe Antarctica.
You Trump-humpers need to get over it already. B Clinton got shit on, GW Bush got shit on, Obama got shit...now it's Trump. The president of the US getting shit on is the norm...your blind loyalty to Trump is why you get called cultist.
Big P
03-21-2020, 03:57 PM
I’d like you to provide quotes where anyone called him racist for stopping air travel to/from China. If people criticized him, it was for doing it SO FUCKING LATE. He is a fucking racist for intentionally switching terminology from covid19, which the administration had used for over two months, to the China virus, in an attempt to deflect blame from himself.
The only good thing that might come out of this would be his ignominious defeat in November. His slow response likely will bump the death toll from 500k to 2M, mostly seniors...Fox News Watchers. He won in 2016 by only 100K votes spread over three key states.
https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chinese-coronavirus-travel-ban-as-xenophobia/
While Democrats in March attack President Donald Trump for not doing enough to end the coronavirus epidemic, the same Democrats were bashing the president’s decision to ban travel from China in January.
In January, President Trump banned all foreign nationals who were in China during the time of the coronavirus outbreak from entering the United States. Many pundits and health experts have since credited this decision with helping to slow the coronavirus pandemic on American shores.
However, at the time former vice president Joe Biden railed against the decision.
During a campaign rally, Biden said that “In moments like this, this is where the credibility of a president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do.”
“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,” Biden continued.
Video at link
palangi
03-21-2020, 04:06 PM
Has Trump done anything wrong in this situation?
Has trump done anything right in this situation?
BackHome
03-21-2020, 05:10 PM
https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chinese-coronavirus-travel-ban-as-xenophobia/
While Democrats in March attack President Donald Trump for not doing enough to end the coronavirus epidemic, the same Democrats were bashing the president’s decision to ban travel from China in January.
In January, President Trump banned all foreign nationals who were in China during the time of the coronavirus outbreak from entering the United States. Many pundits and health experts have since credited this decision with helping to slow the coronavirus pandemic on American shores.
However, at the time former vice president Joe Biden railed against the decision.
During a campaign rally, Biden said that “In moments like this, this is where the credibility of a president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do.”
“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,” Biden continued.
Video at link
Oh start stating Facts is going to drive them crazy I am really curious to see how they respond to your post?
Sorry but Trump will get re elected Biden is a terrible candidate he doesn’t know where he is half the time and no way in Hell is Sanders people voting for him.
ChumpDumper
03-21-2020, 05:23 PM
https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chinese-coronavirus-travel-ban-as-xenophobia/
While Democrats in March attack President Donald Trump for not doing enough to end the coronavirus epidemic, the same Democrats were bashing the president’s decision to ban travel from China in January.
In January, President Trump banned all foreign nationals who were in China during the time of the coronavirus outbreak from entering the United States. Many pundits and health experts have since credited this decision with helping to slow the coronavirus pandemic on American shores.
However, at the time former vice president Joe Biden railed against the decision.
During a campaign rally, Biden said that “In moments like this, this is where the credibility of a president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do.”
“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,” Biden continued.
Video at link"many pundits"?
:lol
dbestpro
03-21-2020, 06:10 PM
tbh, this is not about Trump. Trump really does not mind if you throw all your hate his way, if that is what it takes. This is about government doing its job. Its about congress, the departments, governors, mayors, county judges and individuals. Yes, individuals because the government is the people. If Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, and McConnell can get along for the greater good then what is wrong with the rest of us.
ChumpDumper
03-21-2020, 06:50 PM
tbh, this is not about Trump. Trump really does not mind if you throw all your hate his way, if that is what it takes. This is about government doing its job. Its about congress, the departments, governors, mayors, county judges and individuals. Yes, individuals because the government is the people. If Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, and McConnell can get along for the greater good then what is wrong with the rest of us.:lol Trump won't even talk to Nancy. What is wrong with him?
hombre
03-22-2020, 12:18 AM
There were only 9 days between the first death by covid-19 and the first reported US case. It took Trump 11 days after that to ban foreign nationals from entering the US if they were in China two weeks prior. China had its people on lockdown by then.
Scientists and healthcare professionals have been sounding the alarm from the start and still are. Begging for testing, more tests and personal protective gear for months and still are. I hope you are hearing that news. I hope you have appropriate fear, less distrust of science moving forward and remain healthy.
Covid-19 mortality is twice as high for men compared to women in Italy. It looks to be months of rehab and permanently reduced respiratory functions for the smokers and vapors.
BackHome
03-22-2020, 12:24 AM
Again China new way before that event so many foreigners had gone to Europe and USA way before they finally told the truth. Almost every country has it only way to even stay above the pain is to try to slow it down but until a vaccine is created the whole world will be dealing with this virus.
Frenchfred
03-22-2020, 03:12 AM
Again China new way before that event so many foreigners had gone to Europe and USA way before they finally told the truth. Almost every country has it only way to even stay above the pain is to try to slow it down but until a vaccine is created the whole world will be dealing with this virus.
Agreed on that. But you don't want a president who goes public calling the epidemic a hoax or saying that there is no problem, especially when this president has a bunch of followers (like fauxnews) who would do and say anything he says blindly. This fanaticism in this particular instance is dangerous.
We don't see the ducks and genovawitness around that much anymore saying that this is not a big deal; maybe they finally understood.
BackHome
03-22-2020, 03:51 AM
No they probably dealing with real family shit like getting food and dealing with real life shit. You wanna bash Trump keep doing it if it makes you happy but just saying the same thing over and over is not going to make it right. I have a lot of foreign friends and they all scarred and they all looking for the USA to lead and come up with a cure. They scarred of the virus but they also scarred their country and economy will collapse and the people will riot and then all hell breaks loose.
I pray our President and all of our elected Officials come together and make the right decisions need to really put politics aside and come together as a country pretty damn quick.
Everyone stay safe.
ChumpDumper
03-22-2020, 04:28 AM
No they probably dealing with real family shit like getting food and dealing with real life shit. You wanna bash Trump keep doing it if it makes you happy but just saying the same thing over and over is not going to make it right. I have a lot of foreign friends and they all scarred and they all looking for the USA to lead and come up with a cure. They scarred of the virus but they also scarred their country and economy will collapse and the people will riot and then all hell breaks loose.
I pray our President and all of our elected Officials come together and make the right decisions need to really put politics aside and come together as a country pretty damn quick.
Everyone stay safe.
Trump won't speak to Nancy.
BackHome
03-22-2020, 05:01 AM
Umm would you speak to Nancy?
Frenchfred
03-22-2020, 05:07 AM
No they probably dealing with real family shit like getting food and dealing with real life shit. You wanna bash Trump keep doing it if it makes you happy but just saying the same thing over and over is not going to make it right. I have a lot of foreign friends and they all scarred and they all looking for the USA to lead and come up with a cure. They scarred of the virus but they also scarred their country and economy will collapse and the people will riot and then all hell breaks loose.
I pray our President and all of our elected Officials come together and make the right decisions need to really put politics aside and come together as a country pretty damn quick.
Everyone stay safe.
It is not going to make it right now but you have elections this year and I hope that people understand that this type of leadership is exactly what the US (and other countries) should avoid.
As far as the economy, it is pretty sure that we'll have at least a deep recession and maybe a depression. Countries will have to pour a lot of money and hopefully this time, they give it directly to the people instead of giving tax breaks to the wealthy. This is the only way to support our economies, give it to people who are actually spending it.
Stay safe as well.
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-22-2020, 05:32 AM
It is not going to make it right now but you have elections this year and I hope that people understand that this type of leadership is exactly what the US (and other countries) should avoid.
As far as the economy, it is pretty sure that we'll have at least a deep recession and maybe a depression. Countries will have to pour a lot of money and hopefully this time, they give it directly to the people instead of giving tax breaks to the wealthy. This is the only way to support our economies, give it to people who are actually spending it.
Stay safe as well.
Very interesting what your opinion is on Macron and Merkel delaying measures until very late, yes - later than Trump, and especially Macron doing elections when everyone should have been at home.
Frenchfred
03-22-2020, 09:44 AM
Very interesting what your opinion is on Macron and Merkel delaying measures until very late, yes - later than Trump, and especially Macron doing elections when everyone should have been at home.
Macron has not handled the situation well at all; there was not a lot of testing done from the very beginning and even now there is not. France has let its public hospitals go in disarray choosing to spend too much money elsewhere (mainly too many civil servants in unnecessary places and people retiring too early). Fortunately, France still has a pretty good healthcare system and people won't go bankrupt for health issue (probably because of the economy) but it should be a wake up call for France to spend the money where it needs to be and save elsewhere.
Keeping the election was completely stupid, it put people at risk and the results are not representative of the people. I hope they get cancelled and we get a chance to revote the first round again.
At the contrary, Merkel has done a pretty good job with large testing early on and Germany has a lot of hospital beds and medical equipment, they have very few deaths compared to the rest of Europe without confinement. They have more public spending than the US but less than France but they spend it wisely.
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-22-2020, 09:56 AM
Macron has not handled the situation well at all; there was not a lot of testing done from the very beginning and even now there is not. France has let its public hospitals go in disarray choosing to spend too much money elsewhere (mainly too many civil servants in unnecessary places and people retiring too early). Fortunately, France still has a pretty good healthcare system and people won't go bankrupt for health issue (probably because of the economy) but it should be a wake up call for France to spend the money where it needs to be and save elsewhere.
Keeping the election was completely stupid, it put people at risk and the results are not representative of the people. I hope they get cancelled and we get a chance to revote the first round again.
At the contrary, Merkel has done a pretty good job with large testing early on and Germany has a lot of hospital beds and medical equipment, they have very few deaths compared to the rest of Europe without confinement. They have more public spending than the US but less than France but they spend it wisely.
Agree with most of what you've said. All of Europe missed the boat with taking early measures and the next few weeks look grim. I don't trust the China numbers at all, as well as some other countries'( Iran, India, Russia, Turkey, etc.)
Frenchfred
03-22-2020, 10:01 AM
Agree with most of what you've said. All of Europe missed the boat with taking early measures and the next few weeks look grim. I don't trust the China numbers at all, as well as some other countries'( Iran, India, Russia, Turkey, etc.)
There are only few countries that did handle the situation correctly and for what we can see, testing was the way to go (South Korea, Germany, Taiwan...). I think that the west suffers from "we are too good, it won't happen to us".
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-22-2020, 10:07 AM
There are only few countries that did handle the situation correctly and for what we can see, testing was the way to go (South Korea, Germany, Taiwan...). I think that the west suffers from "we are too good, it won't happen to us".
True. I think Japan handled it best, have a couple of japanese friends and talked to them back when it looked like only a local thing. They did a lot of testing and locked stuff down very strictly, plus their society is different compared to europeans, so they actually did what was expected and got things under control.
Kind of disagree about Germany handling it well. Sure, they test more which is good but they waited way too long to close borders and tell people to stay at home.
Frenchfred
03-22-2020, 10:38 AM
True. I think Japan handled it best, have a couple of japanese friends and talked to them back when it looked like only a local thing. They did a lot of testing and locked stuff down very strictly, plus their society is different compared to europeans, so they actually did what was expected and got things under control.
Kind of disagree about Germany handling it well. Sure, they test more which is good but they waited way too long to close borders and tell people to stay at home.
Granted that they have an old population, the fact that they only have 90 deaths is remarkable. At the end, I don't know if spreading the virus slowly is not the solution in the long run for people to get an immune system; of course how do you control the rate to avoid having too many people with it at the same time.
dbestpro
03-22-2020, 04:46 PM
:lol Trump won't even talk to Nancy. What is wrong with him?
That simply is not true. They have all been talking to each other every day.
ChumpDumper
03-22-2020, 05:48 PM
That simply is not true. They have all been talking to each other every day.Have they?
Link?
ducks
03-22-2020, 06:02 PM
Lol nancy was on vacation all last week
Nancy is a fucking bitch
That simply is not true. They have all been talking to each other every day.
the senate took the lead a few days ago and will try to get something out monday or tonight. Trump isn't a great negotiator without TV for obvious reason. The nancy pelosi stuff, is based on a reported story with so so sourcing and Trumps long time anti feminist positions. Trump is of course a very very insecure man way out of his element so it's not really important what happened. He didn't take leadership other than a travel ban.
Anyway, there's been no story that trump has any plan other than his payroll tax holiday float plan which is dead.
Lol nancy was on vacation all last week
Nancy is a fucking bitch
the senate went on vacation first and the dems passed a bill which the senate rejected. What do you wna tthem to do, suck your dick while they wait for the senate?
ducks
03-22-2020, 07:57 PM
Dual Harris polls released Friday revealed between March 14th and 18th, the president’s approval rating jumped 4 percent. Additionally, the approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus also jumped from 51 to 56 percent.
According to the data, 61 percent of Americans trust the White House to provide accurate information regarding the outbreak. The polls were conducted just two days apart, showing a rapid boost of positivity among voters.
ducks
03-22-2020, 07:58 PM
Fauci says 'there isn't, fundamentally, a difference' between his view and Trump's on coronavirus
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fauci-trump-coronavirus-treatments/index.html
Frenchfred
03-23-2020, 01:30 AM
Dual Harris polls released Friday revealed between March 14th and 18th, the president’s approval rating jumped 4 percent. Additionally, the approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus also jumped from 51 to 56 percent.
According to the data, 61 percent of Americans trust the White House to provide accurate information regarding the outbreak. The polls were conducted just two days apart, showing a rapid boost of positivity among voters.
then, americans are more retarded than I thought. When the president goes on TV calling the coronavirus a hoax and later we see the consequences of the virus and thus his lie, if people don’t see that, that really shows how low americans have gone
ElNono
03-23-2020, 01:58 AM
then, americans are more retarded than I thought. When the president goes on TV calling the coronavirus a hoax and later we see the consequences of the virus and thus his lie, if people don’t see that, that really shows how low americans have gone
You're talking to ducks. Basically disregard.
Emperor
03-23-2020, 04:04 AM
then, americans are more retarded than I thought. When the president goes on TV calling the coronavirus a hoax and later we see the consequences of the virus and thus his lie, if people don’t see that, that really shows how low americans have gone
He did not call the virus itself a hoax he mentioned the Democrats politicizing it as the "new hoax".
Atl Spur
03-23-2020, 06:49 AM
Ducks, what’s your profession?
Atl Spur
03-23-2020, 07:06 AM
Where’s Tholdren? Done being the court jester? No worries though, Palagni & backhome are worthy substitutes in your absence. Donald Trump.........lol. Won’t waste time or words on dude but it is comical to see him try to lead ( or at least fake it) Pure clown! I’m not mad, someone has to play the pimp and prostitute ( to be clear, ducks you are the later )
BackHome
03-23-2020, 08:32 AM
Ducking just pass the bill how hard is it to get the aid out? This should gave been voted on This Sunday and checks should already be in the mail that’s why we need term limits for these fools tired of seeing these people in power for 30+ years and have not done a damn thing for the American people.
BacktoBasics
03-23-2020, 09:07 AM
Ducking just pass the bill how hard is it to get the aid out? This should gave been voted on This Sunday and checks should already be in the mail that’s why we need term limits for these fools tired of seeing these people in power for 30+ years and have not done a damn thing for the American people.
So correct me if I’m wrong but checks are only being distributed based on who filed a tax return last year. If true it’s a massive mistake. There’s got to be a better way.
When people realize this they’ll be a rush of desperation.
exstatic
03-23-2020, 09:44 AM
So correct me if I’m wrong but checks are only being distributed based on who filed a tax return last year. If true it’s a massive mistake. There’s got to be a better way.
When people realize this they’ll be a rush of desperation.
Yeah. What happens when people have no money and no food? Bad stuff.
Frenchfred
03-23-2020, 10:05 AM
He did not call the virus itself a hoax he mentioned the Democrats politicizing it as the "new hoax".
This is semantic. Trump downplayed the gravity of the coronavirus from the very beginning and lied every step of the way about the situation. He lied about the availability of tests stating that anybody could get a test whenever, he lied about the seriousness of the disease, he lied about a policy that Obama would have implemented...Nobody expects him to cure the virus by magic but people are looking for their leaders to give a clear message that will help prevent the spread of the disease.
Frenchfred
03-23-2020, 10:07 AM
Yeah. What happens when people have no money and no food? Bad stuff.
in a country with guns, clearly not a good thing. Hopefully, people will start to understand that a system that only cares about the richest and biggest corporations is not a good thing.
BackHome
03-23-2020, 10:21 AM
Frenched I am starting to think your either a Chinese or Russian bot?
ducks
03-23-2020, 10:52 AM
Yeah. What happens when people have no money and no food? Bad stuff.
People will go to the woods and kill a elk and get meat
They did That in the recession before
Game wardens looked the other way as long as they did it for meat not horns
ducks
03-23-2020, 10:53 AM
in a country with guns, clearly not a good thing. Hopefully, people will start to understand that a system that only cares about the richest and biggest corporations is not a good thing.
Yeah those people only employ the most people
ducks
03-23-2020, 10:54 AM
This is semantic. Trump downplayed the gravity of the coronavirus from the very beginning and lied every step of the way about the situation. He lied about the availability of tests stating that anybody could get a test whenever, he lied about the seriousness of the disease, he lied about a policy that Obama would have implemented...Nobody expects him to cure the virus by magic but people are looking for their leaders to give a clear message that will help prevent the spread of the disease.
They tell people to stop going to the beach they do!
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-23-2020, 11:02 AM
People will go to the woods and kill a elk and get meat
They did That in the recession before
Game wardens looked the other way as long as they did it for meat not horns
ducks can't possibly be an actual human being :lol best troll ever.
BackHome
03-23-2020, 11:05 AM
People are so freaking stupid they act like the President can waive a magic wand and stop the virus and cure everyone not going to happen. A lot of this is in the states hands and hopefully you all voted for people who know what they hell to do in your state. The government can only do so much you people need to put your big boy panties own and get ready to help out. Me and some friends went to our ranch and butchered heifer and some goats was able to give a lot to two of my elderly neighbors and some of my friends who are unemployed.
Spurs Homer
03-23-2020, 11:50 AM
Cheking in again...boil it down - only question that matters:
Have the Trump fellators spit the tiny mushroom out of their cockholsters yet?
well?
BackHome
03-23-2020, 12:37 PM
What are you 10 years old?
dbestpro
03-23-2020, 12:49 PM
People are so freaking stupid they act like the President can waive a magic wand and stop the virus and cure everyone not going to happen. A lot of this is in the states hands and hopefully you all voted for people who know what they hell to do in your state. The government can only do so much you people need to put your big boy panties own and get ready to help out. Me and some friends went to our ranch and butchered heifer and some goats was able to give a lot to two of my elderly neighbors and some of my friends who are unemployed.
Now you're messing up the Fantasia with real stuff. C'mon man!
hombre
03-23-2020, 01:03 PM
Maybe instead of waving a magic wand, Trump should start listening to our scientists and healthcare professionals at some point?
Instead Trump and the republicans have been spreading misinformation and calling it a hoax, or saying it's like the flu, or going away in April, or even last week when Trump kept touting Chloroquine, contradicting Dr. Fauci because he "has a good feeling about it." Shame.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/23/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-overdoses-after-trump-without-evidence-touted-drug
Once a liar, always a liar.
BackHome
03-23-2020, 01:09 PM
Oh here come the bot Good Lort. Smh
Big P
03-23-2020, 01:26 PM
Maybe instead of waving a magic wand, Trump should start listening to our scientists and healthcare professionals at some point?
Instead Trump and the republicans have been spreading misinformation and calling it a hoax, or saying it's like the flu, or going away in April, or even last week when Trump kept touting Chloroquine, contradicting Dr. Fauci because he "has a good feeling about it." Shame.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/23/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-overdoses-after-trump-without-evidence-touted-drug
Once a liar, always a liar.
commondreams.org... :lol...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/17/instagram-posts/celebrities-are-sharing-misleading-post-about-trum/
exstatic
03-23-2020, 03:39 PM
People are so freaking stupid they act like the President can waive a magic wand and stop the virus and cure everyone not going to happen. A lot of this is in the states hands and hopefully you all voted for people who know what they hell to do in your state. The government can only do so much you people need to put your big boy panties own and get ready to help out. Me and some friends went to our ranch and butchered heifer and some goats was able to give a lot to two of my elderly neighbors and some of my friends who are unemployed.
The President actually has a lot of powers during time of emergency. He had two months to do what has now amounted to closing the barn door after the horse is out. Because he chose his usual tactic of bluster, bravado, and lies, the death toll will likely be about 2M, instead of 500k with a flattened curve that might have started in January. Stop defending him.
Big P
03-23-2020, 04:35 PM
The President actually has a lot of powers during time of emergency. He had two months to do what has now amounted to closing the barn door after the horse is out. Because he chose his usual tactic of bluster, bravado, and lies, the death toll will likely be about 2M, instead of 500k with a flattened curve that might have started in January. Stop defending him.
On January 21, we get news that China quarantines Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak..on January 31 While the dumbocrats were doing their bullshit impeachment trial, the President was taking action by stopping travel and imposing a quarantine on travelers from china..I would tell you to quit with the lies and the bullshit, but it's what socialist and commies do, so I don't expect anything less from you or the other libs.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/china-quarantines-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-reports
and since you will cry about the link being from Fox News
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-death-toll-latest-2020-02-04/
ducks
03-23-2020, 04:47 PM
So the donkeys want to put climate bill in the stimulus bill
Talk about being studid
ducks
03-23-2020, 04:48 PM
Trump
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In
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China said no
Should trump have started a war to ?
Liberals ?
Big P
03-23-2020, 04:59 PM
Here is a list of the shit the dumbocrats want in the corona virus bill..since the Republicans don't want to add this pork to the bill, nancy and the crew are gonna take their ball and go home instead of helping the people who need it most...remember, the left wants to give everything away for free till it's time to help the American people..like rahm emanuel said " You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that: it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Increased fuel emission standards for airlines receiving funds and carbon offsets:
Payment for up to $10,000 in student loans:
Same-day voter registration, early voting, voting by mail, ballot harvesting
Preserving collective bargaining powers for unions
The expansion of wind and solar tax credits.
Requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data
The bill demands that corporate recipients of financial assistance are required to report racial and gender data regarding salaries, number of employees, supplier diversity, and membership on corporate boards. It also requires federal agencies to use businesses and financial institutions owned by minorities or women.
Post Office Bailout
For payment to the ''Postal Service Fund'', for revenue forgone due to the coronavirus pandemic, $20,000,000,000,
Automatic extension of nonimmigrant visas.
the Secretary of Homeland Security shall automatically extend such status or work authorization for the same time period as the alien's prior status or work authorization.
Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status
Money for Planned Parenthood
(original house bil had 1 billion in funding that could have been used by pp)
Leetonidas
03-23-2020, 05:25 PM
lmao some of you are pathetic. 3 weeks ago it was all a democratic hoax. now its TrUmP tRiEd To StOp ThE vIrUs MoNtHs AgO :lmao :lmao when you all thought it was a hoax and fake news? keep gargling dat GOP ballsack
Atl Spur
03-23-2020, 05:51 PM
Hi Big P; I try to drop in daily to see who else is ....... well you know!
Atl Spur
03-23-2020, 05:55 PM
Yo ducks....... answer my question please. Someone with your infinite wisdom must have a high profile job contributing to humanity! Message board clowning is your past time right?
BacktoBasics
03-23-2020, 05:57 PM
Both sides are disgusting. Slow response to partisan trash added to this bill. None of these people are fit to lead a country. Anyone who advocates solely down a party line is a moron. These people who shape their entire existence based on what their party says they should do are the absolute worst part of society.
Big P
03-23-2020, 06:05 PM
lmao some of you are pathetic. 3 weeks ago it was all a democratic hoax. now its TrUmP tRiEd To StOp ThE vIrUs MoNtHs AgO :lmao :lmao when you all thought it was a hoax and fake news? keep gargling dat GOP ballsack
Taken from the link above..
Trump "wasted two weeks calling this outbreak a ‘Democrat hoax.’"
This is inaccurate.
During a Feb. 28 campaign rally in North Charleston, S.C., Trump called the Democratic response to COVID-19 a "hoax." But he did not use the term to describe the virus itself.
During a press conference Feb. 29, Trump was asked about his remarks.
"I'm not talking about what's happening here; I'm talking what they're doing," he said, referring to Democrats. "That's the hoax."
Trump’s comments feed into a conspiracy theory that claims Democrats and the media are fabricating the threat of COVID-19 to hurt the economy and the president’s re-election chances. And the president appeared to downplay the threat of the virus at several points in recent weeks.
But to say that Trump called the virus itself a hoax is false. Plus, the administration took its first action in January by setting up a task force to address the spread of the coronavirus.
So he was actually taking action months ago while the left was wasting American taxpayers time and money on the impeachment hoax, like they have been for the last three years, doing absolutely nothing to help American taxpayers.
hombre
03-23-2020, 06:10 PM
SOME DIRECT TRUMP QUOTES FOR YOU.
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 9: "The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant.”
March 10: "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."
March 13: "I don't take any responsibility at all."
Joseph Kony
03-23-2020, 06:36 PM
Taken from the link above..
Trump "wasted two weeks calling this outbreak a ‘Democrat hoax.’"
This is inaccurate.
During a Feb. 28 campaign rally in North Charleston, S.C., Trump called the Democratic response to COVID-19 a "hoax." But he did not use the term to describe the virus itself.
During a press conference Feb. 29, Trump was asked about his remarks.
"I'm not talking about what's happening here; I'm talking what they're doing," he said, referring to Democrats. "That's the hoax."
Trump’s comments feed into a conspiracy theory that claims Democrats and the media are fabricating the threat of COVID-19 to hurt the economy and the president’s re-election chances. And the president appeared to downplay the threat of the virus at several points in recent weeks.
But to say that Trump called the virus itself a hoax is false. Plus, the administration took its first action in January by setting up a task force to address the spread of the coronavirus.
So he was actually taking action months ago while the left was wasting American taxpayers time and money on the impeachment hoax, like they have been for the last three years, doing absolutely nothing to help American taxpayers.
slurp slurp slurp :lmao keep rationalizing it dumbass. serious question, if Trump was in front of you and whipped his cock out and told you to suck it, would you gladly drop to your knees, salute him, and get to work? :lmao
ChumpDumper
03-23-2020, 06:58 PM
On January 21, we get news that China quarantines Wuhan amid coronavirus outbreak..on January 31 While the dumbocrats were doing their bullshit impeachment trial, the President was taking action by stopping travel and imposing a quarantine on travelers from china..I would tell you to quit with the lies and the bullshit, but it's what socialist and commies do, so I don't expect anything less from you or the other libs.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/china-quarantines-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-reports
and since you will cry about the link being from Fox News
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-death-toll-latest-2020-02-04/Is that really all he did?
Damn.
Trump is panicking. He doesn’t know how to handle a major crises. Scary. He needs to cede his presidency to Mike Pence immediately.
gambit1990
03-23-2020, 08:50 PM
trump wanting people to go back out :lmao
literally the worse next action to take, telling people it's okay to congregate again.
daslicer
03-23-2020, 09:04 PM
Trump is panicking. He doesn’t know how to handle a major crises. Scary. He needs to cede his presidency to Mike Pence immediately.
He will never do it due to him having too much pride and ego. He could never live it down that he was a failure. This would be his most embarrassing moment. Even more embarrassing than the times he filed for bankruptcy. He would never live it down.
BackHome
03-23-2020, 09:41 PM
Shit he has gone from one crisis to another from North Korea, massive Hurricanes to Iran and now this is the man perfect he’ll no But your an idiot if you think Biden could do half of what Trump has done.
ChumpDumper
03-23-2020, 09:45 PM
Shit he has gone from one crisis to another from North Korea, massive Hurricanes to Iran and now this is the man perfect he’ll no But your an idiot if you think Biden could do half of what Trump has done.What has Trump done that no one else could do?
BackHome
03-23-2020, 10:02 PM
Here is a list of the shit the dumbocrats want in the corona virus bill..since the Republicans don't want to add this pork to the bill, nancy and the crew are gonna take their ball and go home instead of helping the people who need it most...remember, the left wants to give everything away for free till it's time to help the American people..like rahm emanuel said " You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that: it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Increased fuel emission standards for airlines receiving funds and carbon offsets:
Payment for up to $10,000 in student loans:
Same-day voter registration, early voting, voting by mail, ballot harvesting
Preserving collective bargaining powers for unions
The expansion of wind and solar tax credits.
Requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data
The bill demands that corporate recipients of financial assistance are required to report racial and gender data regarding salaries, number of employees, supplier diversity, and membership on corporate boards. It also requires federal agencies to use businesses and financial institutions owned by minorities or women.
Post Office Bailout
For payment to the ''Postal Service Fund'', for revenue forgone due to the coronavirus pandemic, $20,000,000,000,
Automatic extension of nonimmigrant visas.
the Secretary of Homeland Security shall automatically extend such status or work authorization for the same time period as the alien's prior status or work authorization.
Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status
Money for Planned Parenthood
(original house bil had 1 billion in funding that could have been used by pp)
WTF I have friends laid off trying to figure out how they are going to feed their kids and you have these idiots requesting this BS.
He will never do it due to him having too much pride and ego. He could never live it down that he was a failure. This would be his most embarrassing moment. Even more embarrassing than the times he filed for bankruptcy. He would never live it down.
yes, though he made him head of task force. I’m a Republican and I wince at how he can’t make a decision and stick with it. He’s all over the place so it’s hard to know what his real plan is. Well, it’s this strange thought that he can ignore the virus and bring the economy back before November. But he’s going to make it worse by quitting the social distancing next week. He’s finding you can’t con and smooth talk your way out of a major crises.
tim_duncan_fan
03-23-2020, 10:02 PM
"Your an idiot".
Oh yeah, you're definitely one to judge, for sure.
hombre
03-24-2020, 12:37 AM
February 26. “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
All he had to do was listen to scientists and do what they said.
We are not prepared for this, it's looking worse here than Italy and they have a much better healthcare system than the US, at least our healthcare workers and scientists have seen what happened there and have a chance to understand what is in front of them.
Even if Trump tried to make people go back to work, he couldn't. Trump has no power because the governors are calling all the shots. Each having to come up with their own playbook and script with no Federal leadership or centralized braintrust. Trump will blame everything on them once the racist China excuse plays out and people around everyone start dying and looking for someone closer to home to direct their anger at. The entire federal government failed to get the tests, personal protective equipment or even think to use its power to help with a scientific approach to contain the spread, all while having a good economy.
Republicans do not believe in science.
hombre
03-24-2020, 12:47 AM
commondreams.org... :lol...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/17/instagram-posts/celebrities-are-sharing-misleading-post-about-trum/
https://www.businessinsider.com (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-woman-husband-died-chloroquine-warns-not-to-trust-trump-2020-3)
Does this make you feel better? My point stands.
I hope you don't trust anything that Trump says enough to harm yourself or anyone in your family.
He's not a deep or smart man, just watch his press conferences.
slick'81
03-24-2020, 01:23 AM
February 26. “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
All he had to do was listen to scientists and do what they said.
We are not prepared for this, it's looking worse here than Italy and they have a much better healthcare system than the US, at least our healthcare workers and scientists have seen what happened there and have a chance to understand what is in front of them.
Even if Trump tried to make people go back to work, he couldn't. Trump has no power because the governors are calling all the shots. Each having to come up with their own playbook and script with no Federal leadership or centralized braintrust. Trump will blame everything on them once the racist China excuse plays out and people around everyone start dying and looking for someone closer to home to direct their anger at. The entire federal government failed to get the tests, personal protective equipment or even think to use its power to help with a scientific approach to contain the spread, all while having a good economy.
Republicans do not believe in science.
Jesus thats a grim outlook
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 03:15 AM
So the donkeys want to put climate bill in the stimulus bill
Talk about being studid
Knowing that pollution makes people more susceptible to respiratory diseases like pneumonia or... the coronavirus, it doesn't seem to be a bad idea to try to lower emissions.
But thanks for your comment, again, it seems that thinking for yourself is not something you are capable of
Emperor
03-24-2020, 04:06 AM
Ya realize Trump isn't getting beat this November right? Creepy Joe barely knows where's he's at most of the time.
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 05:37 AM
Shit he has gone from one crisis to another from North Korea, massive Hurricanes to Iran and now this is the man perfect he’ll no But your an idiot if you think Biden could do half of what Trump has done.
man, you really love him.
- What's the outcome of the North Korea thing? Nothing new, they still have their nuclear weapons. Trump bragged the entire time and at the end, there is nothing new.
- Hurricanes? Well, every president has had to deal with those lately and seeing how climate change skeptical the republicans are, it is not going to change. We can also say that his display of throwing paper towel in Puerto Rico was a good example of poor taste
- Iran? Trump has done nothing there. I'm not sure that there is much to do to be honest. The US f.cked the country back in 1953 by overthrowing the elected prime minister of Iran because he wanted to nationalize oil. Funny, how things have a way to circle back.
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 05:50 AM
Ya realize Trump isn't getting beat this November right? Creepy Joe barely knows where's he's at most of the time.
I agree with you and that's the saddest part. I guess that a lot of people get comfort in being represented by somebody stupid, it makes them feel that them too could be president one day. The Romans understood how to control a population: panem et circenses (bread and circuses). The US are the perfect example of that. Give people cheap food and sport and you can control an entire population that doesn't question anything. The coronavirus is the perfect example; trump and fauxnews went on lying about it and people believed blindly and stupidly. Add to that a little dose of "it's the foreigners' fault" and you have the winning cocktail.
Democrats are too naive to win, they want to play nice, they want to get a consensus when they are in power. They should do like republicans, lie all the time, attack the other side constantly even if it is not true and do whatever it takes to get elected.
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 05:53 AM
February 26. “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
All he had to do was listen to scientists and do what they said.
We are not prepared for this, it's looking worse here than Italy and they have a much better healthcare system than the US, at least our healthcare workers and scientists have seen what happened there and have a chance to understand what is in front of them.
Even if Trump tried to make people go back to work, he couldn't. Trump has no power because the governors are calling all the shots. Each having to come up with their own playbook and script with no Federal leadership or centralized braintrust. Trump will blame everything on them once the racist China excuse plays out and people around everyone start dying and looking for someone closer to home to direct their anger at. The entire federal government failed to get the tests, personal protective equipment or even think to use its power to help with a scientific approach to contain the spread, all while having a good economy.
Republicans do not believe in science.
republicans don't believe in facts so of course they don't believe in science.
exstatic
03-24-2020, 07:21 AM
Ya realize Trump isn't getting beat this November right? Creepy Joe barely knows where's he's at most of the time.
And Trump does? He’s obviously in dementia.
He lost the popular vote by 3M, winning because of 100K votes spread through 3 key states, Michigan, Wisconsin, PA, and is in the process of quadrupling the death toll of the pandemic by urging his FOX followers (and Trump voters) out into the pandemic. I guess you could call that purging the GOP voter rolls.
Yeah, he could easily lose. Biden ain’t all that, but he has two things that will draw the center: he isn’t progressive, and he isn’t Trump.
Slippy
03-24-2020, 07:28 AM
Our health minister was defending Australian testing rates as one of the best in the world.. per million we test on average 2500.
He compared to the US which he said was 50 per million. Thats crazy low.
My sis in Dallas is so worried about it spreading like a wildfire. She saying not enough testing kits to contain the spread.
We both agreed , when possible stay at home and isolate the family.
Slippy
03-24-2020, 08:01 AM
Hope you all can ride this out and most of you avoid catching corona.
pad300
03-24-2020, 10:08 AM
Democrats are too naive to win, they want to play nice, they want to get a consensus when they are in power.
Are you an actual human being? Have you paid attention at all to the last 10 or so years? I will give you that both sides can be assholes, and both side can be exorbitantly stupid... but the democrat party is no bunch of angels...they do have a lot of friends among "journalists" though. Nor are they actually any smarter.
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 12:30 PM
Are you an actual human being? Have you paid attention at all to the last 10 or so years? I will give you that both sides can be assholes, and both side can be exorbitantly stupid... but the democrat party is no bunch of angels...they do have a lot of friends among "journalists" though. Nor are they actually any smarter.
I’ve never seen the Democrats with the swift boat veterans lies for Kerry, the pizzagate for Clinton, the birthers for Obama... Republicans will invent the craziest stories about their opponent.
when Obama had control of the house and senate, he should have passed his healthcare reform without caring what republicans thought, he didn’t. When the republicans have control, they do whatever they want.
I know that this is politics and democrats also do their shenanigans but never to that extent.
pad300
03-24-2020, 12:58 PM
I’ve never seen the Democrats with the swift boat veterans lies for Kerry, the pizzagate for Clinton, the birthers for Obama... Republicans will invent the craziest stories about their opponent.
when Obama had control of the house and senate, he should have passed his healthcare reform without caring what republicans thought, he didn’t. When the republicans have control, they do whatever they want.
I know that this is politics and democrats also do their shenanigans but never to that extent.
I repeat, are you paying attention?
Recently: The assorted Brett Kavanaugh smears - he's a sex fiend who ran a rape ring in high school! The Russian dossier - Don Trump's a commie agent, the Manchurian Candidate is Real! Older: Rathergate - Bush faked his national guard service!
Exactly what concessions did the democrats make to republicans in passing Obamacare? To quote Barrack Obama "I Won". They took zero input from the republicans and got zero votes in congress from them as a result. Then the republicans went and won a senate election, which would have given them enough votes to filibuster it in the senate... "Elections have consequences"... so they forced a partial bill through before new member could be seated, and locked in all sorts of structural problems. Again, with zero republican votes.
Shennanigans but never to that extent - it is clear at this point, the Obama government was illegally using the power of the federal government to attack it's political opponents in 2012 (IRS scandal) and 2016 (FISAgate).
To quote from Ronald Reagan "It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so"... I think you're living in what's known as a media bubble; you might want consider a broader perspective. Or at least a little healthy skepticism when someone tells you that they're a) so much smarter than the people opposing them; the people on the other side are morons! b) they're so much morally superior to the other side; the people on the other side are "EEEVILLLL"... especially when you're shoving roughly half the population in that box...
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 02:23 PM
I repeat, are you paying attention?
Recently: The assorted Brett Kavanaugh smears - he's a sex fiend who ran a rape ring in high school! The Russian dossier - Don Trump's a commie agent, the Manchurian Candidate is Real! Older: Rathergate - Bush faked his national guard service!
Exactly what concessions did the democrats make to republicans in passing Obamacare? To quote Barrack Obama "I Won". They took zero input from the republicans and got zero votes in congress from them as a result. Then the republicans went and won a senate election, which would have given them enough votes to filibuster it in the senate... "Elections have consequences"... so they forced a partial bill through before new member could be seated, and locked in all sorts of structural problems. Again, with zero republican votes.
Shennanigans but never to that extent - it is clear at this point, the Obama government was illegally using the power of the federal government to attack it's political opponents in 2012 (IRS scandal) and 2016 (FISAgate).
To quote from Ronald Reagan "It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so"... I think you're living in what's known as a media bubble; you might want consider a broader perspective. Or at least a little healthy skepticism when someone tells you that they're a) so much smarter than the people opposing them; the people on the other side are morons! b) they're so much morally superior to the other side; the people on the other side are "EEEVILLLL"... especially when you're shoving roughly half the population in that box...
About Trump and Russia. Sorry but trump was caught many times lying about this issue (why lie if you did nothing wrong), a lot of of his people got indicted trying to protect him. Just because, they couldn't prove his direct involvement at the end doesn't mean that he is not guilty. I would not compare the russian story to the pizzagate for example.
Regarding Rathergate , the first media to question these allegations were "liberal" ones. I never see fox or other conservative network criticize anything trump says even when it is a blatant lie, do you? I said it already but Fox is not able to operate as a news media in the UK anymore as it was caught too many times lying, it can only be an entertainment media there.
After, I agree with you about democrats having a sense of superiority, they have a hard time to connect to the average person. They should realize that the average voter is dumb (in any country) and act like it instead of trying to be paternalistic. Republicans understand that better and know how to use that to their advantage. I go back to my Roman comparison: give them food and entertainment and people will be happy and not question anything.
I repeat, are you paying attention?
Recently: The assorted Brett Kavanaugh smears - he's a sex fiend who ran a rape ring in high school! The Russian dossier - Don Trump's a commie agent, the Manchurian Candidate is Real! Older: Rathergate - Bush faked his national guard service!
Exactly what concessions did the democrats make to republicans in passing Obamacare? To quote Barrack Obama "I Won". They took zero input from the republicans and got zero votes in congress from them as a result. Then the republicans went and won a senate election, which would have given them enough votes to filibuster it in the senate... "Elections have consequences"... so they forced a partial bill through before new member could be seated, and locked in all sorts of structural problems. Again, with zero republican votes.
Shennanigans but never to that extent - it is clear at this point, the Obama government was illegally using the power of the federal government to attack it's political opponents in 2012 (IRS scandal) and 2016 (FISAgate).
To quote from Ronald Reagan "It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so"... I think you're living in what's known as a media bubble; you might want consider a broader perspective. Or at least a little healthy skepticism when someone tells you that they're a) so much smarter than the people opposing them; the people on the other side are morons! b) they're so much morally superior to the other side; the people on the other side are "EEEVILLLL"... especially when you're shoving roughly half the population in that box...
No you're in a bubble
pad300
03-24-2020, 03:12 PM
About Trump and Russia. Sorry but trump was caught many times lying about this issue (why lie if you did nothing wrong), a lot of of his people got indicted trying to protect him. Just because, they couldn't prove his direct involvement at the end doesn't mean that he is not guilty. I would not compare the russian story to the pizzagate for example.
Regarding Rathergate , the first media to question these allegations were "liberal" ones. I never see fox or other conservative network criticize anything trump says even when it is a blatant lie, do you? I said it already but Fox is not able to operate as a news media in the UK anymore as it was caught too many times lying, it can only be an entertainment media there.
After, I agree with you about democrats having a sense of superiority, they have a hard time to connect to the average person. They should realize that the average voter is dumb (in any country) and act like it instead of trying to be paternalistic. Republicans understand that better and know how to use that to their advantage. I go back to my Roman comparison: give them food and entertainment and people will be happy and not question anything.
Again, ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION!
I'm not running interference for Don Trump here, he has his own bullshit.
The Russian Dossier was a fake; opposition research bought and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign. The FBI KNEW it was unreliable and un-corroborated, and still threw it in front a FISA court, claiming it was reliable. The dossier was a major league lie by the Democrats for electoral advantage. it's way worse than Pizzagate, for example, because Pizzagate was a bullshit thread on Qanon. The Russian dossier on the other hand was used to throw American citizen's rights in the garbage (the Fourth Amendment), and then used to hamstring the incoming administration with a special prosecutor for 2 years, who came to the conclusion that "“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” So Don Trump was (and is) not a manchurian candidate...
Rathergate was not first questioned by the "liberal ones". I was alive and paying attention then... were you? The "liberal ones" were the ones pushing it on their front pages, to attack the Bush campaign. Just who do you Dan Rather worked for? Fox? Do you think Rather's a republican? The people who blew it up as a blatant hoax, were a "bunch of bloggers in their pajamas"! (and right wing talk radio). There's a reason why the line about "a bunch of bloggers in their pajamas" became famous...
As far as realizing the average voter "is dumb and act like it instead of trying to be paternalistic" (not that I'm real sure that I believe that...but there are a bunch of people with, let's call it an unearned sense of superiority), let's quote one of the architects of Obamacare, John Gruber, "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. Call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical for the thing to pass." or "Exploiting the stupidity of the American voter is fun and easy: kinda like squeezing a lemon."...
BOTH side lie. BOTH sides play games. Get out of your bubble.
BackHome
03-24-2020, 03:12 PM
Bubble speaking to bubble. Lol
dbestpro
03-24-2020, 05:55 PM
Just another day in the neighborhood.
Frenchfred
03-24-2020, 06:37 PM
Again, ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION!
I'm not running interference for Don Trump here, he has his own bullshit.
The Russian Dossier was a fake; opposition research bought and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign. The FBI KNEW it was unreliable and un-corroborated, and still threw it in front a FISA court, claiming it was reliable. The dossier was a major league lie by the Democrats for electoral advantage. it's way worse than Pizzagate, for example, because Pizzagate was a bullshit thread on Qanon. The Russian dossier on the other hand was used to throw American citizen's rights in the garbage (the Fourth Amendment), and then used to hamstring the incoming administration with a special prosecutor for 2 years, who came to the conclusion that "“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” So Don Trump was (and is) not a manchurian candidate...
Rathergate was not first questioned by the "liberal ones". I was alive and paying attention then... were you? The "liberal ones" were the ones pushing it on their front pages, to attack the Bush campaign. Just who do you Dan Rather worked for? Fox? Do you think Rather's a republican? The people who blew it up as a blatant hoax, were a "bunch of bloggers in their pajamas"! (and right wing talk radio). There's a reason why the line about "a bunch of bloggers in their pajamas" became famous...
As far as realizing the average voter "is dumb and act like it instead of trying to be paternalistic" (not that I'm real sure that I believe that...but there are a bunch of people with, let's call it an unearned sense of superiority), let's quote one of the architects of Obamacare, John Gruber, "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. Call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical for the thing to pass." or "Exploiting the stupidity of the American voter is fun and easy: kinda like squeezing a lemon."...
BOTH side lie. BOTH sides play games. Get out of your bubble.
then tell me why trump’s friends were indicted for false statement and witness tempering if there is nothing to it? You are naive if you believe that trump was not involved in all of this.
rathergate. Yes, I was not only alive and living in the states at the time. Sorry but usa today, washington post, newyork time, abc... all came out to question CBS. Have you seen fox question trump or other republican presidents when they lie? Not very often.
I agree that both sides lie, I’ m just saying that republicans are willing to go farther. Iraq war for another example? Never got any apology from republicans on that one
BackHome
03-24-2020, 07:19 PM
Hmm and how many Democrats voted for that war....Biden???
ducks
03-24-2020, 09:00 PM
Gallup Poll: Handling of Virus Gives Trump Record Approval
President Donald Trump's job approval rating is up to 49%, according to the latest Gallup poll, a tie for his highest on record, likely due to a bump from his handing of the coronavirus pandemic.
slick'81
03-24-2020, 09:10 PM
Gallup Poll: Handling of Virus Gives Trump Record Approval
President Donald Trump's job approval rating is up to 49%, according to the latest Gallup poll, a tie for his highest on record, likely due to a bump from his handing of the coronavirus pandemic.
:rollin
ChumpDumper
03-24-2020, 11:46 PM
Gallup Poll: Handling of Virus Gives Trump Record Approval
President Donald Trump's job approval rating is up to 49%, according to the latest Gallup poll, a tie for his highest on record, likely due to a bump from his handing of the coronavirus pandemic.
Rally round the flag effect less than expected.
Frenchfred
03-25-2020, 02:30 AM
Hmm and how many Democrats voted for that war....Biden???
PLEAAAAASE, the republicans were basically calling anybody who was not supporting the war unpatriotic, enemies of the state. The republican were in power, had control of all branches and made the case. We now know that this is was all a big lie, that hundreds of thousands of people died as a consequence, trillions were wasted, the complete Middle East and Arab world world was destabilized and more terrorists were created, ISIS being one of them. So, yes the republicans, again (Iran, Osama Bin Laden...), were responsible for a huge tragedy but live their lives like nothing happened, no apology, no accountability. The party of personal responsibility definitely has a problem taking responsibility.
hombre
03-25-2020, 09:47 AM
The Republicans also presented the Democrats false intelligence of weapons of mass destruction to sway their votes.
In October 2002, Bush said that Saddam Hussein had a "massive stockpile" of biological weapons. But as CIA Director George Tenet noted in early 2004, the CIA had informed policymakers it had "no specific information on the types or quantities of weapons agent or stockpiles at Baghdad's disposal." The "massive stockpile" was just literally made up.
In December 2002, Bush declared, "We do not know whether or not [Iraq] has a nuclear weapon." That was not what the National Intelligence Estimate said. As Tenet would later testify, "We said that Saddam did not have a nuclear weapon and probably would have been unable to make one until 2007 to 2009." Bush did know whether or not Iraq had a nuclear weapon — and lied and said he didn’t know to hype the threat.
On CNN in September 2002, Condoleezza Rice claimed that aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs." This was precisely the opposite of what nuclear experts at the Energy Department were saying; they argue that not only was it very possible the tubes were for nonnuclear purposes but that it was very likely they were too. Even more dire assessments about the tubes from other agencies were exaggerated by administration officials — and in any case, the claim that they’re "only really suited" for nuclear weapons is just false.
On numerous occasions, Dick Cheney cited a report that 9/11 conspirator Mohammed Atta had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence officer. He said this after the CIA and FBI concluded that this meeting never took place.
More generally on the question of Iraq and al-Qaeda, on September 18, 2001, Rice received a memo summarizing intelligence on the relationship, which concluded there was little evidence of links. Nonetheless Bush continued to claim that Hussein was "a threat because he’s dealing with al-Qaeda" more than a year later.
In August 2002, Dick Cheney declared, "Simply stated, there's no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." But as Corn notes, at that time there was "no confirmed intelligence at this point establishing that Saddam had revived a major WMD operation." Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had heard the same intelligence and attended Cheney’s speech, would later say in a documentary, "It was a total shock. I couldn't believe the vice president was saying this, you know? In doing work with the CIA on Iraq WMD, through all the briefings I heard at Langley, I never saw one piece of credible evidence that there was an ongoing program."
The Bush administration on numerous occasions exaggerated or outright fabricated conclusions from intelligence in its public statements. Bush really did lie, and people really did die as a result of the war those lies were meant to build a case for. Those are the facts.
dbestpro
03-25-2020, 11:07 AM
Looks like the cut and paste crew are at it again.
Mugen
03-25-2020, 11:14 AM
:lol Imagine being stupid enough to think Trump is handling this shit well.
:lol Imagine being stupid enough to think Trump is handling this shit well.
Didn't you hear? Yesterday he declared that we have already won.
Mission accomplished. :rolleyes
Seventyniner
03-25-2020, 02:54 PM
There's a reason I vote third party. All mud-slinging does is ensure everyone gets dirty.
Texas eye
03-25-2020, 05:05 PM
:lol Imagine being stupid enough to think Trump is handling this shit well.
Sure. Then imagine Hillary Clinton in charge. She would have done what Obama did during h1n1, jack shit.
dbestpro
03-25-2020, 05:08 PM
This place is about as toxic as it has ever been. Hard to believe that this is a basketball site.
Atl Spur
03-25-2020, 05:12 PM
Debating if our president is inadequate is like arguing water is wet! Has nothing to do with his politics.....he has always been a extremely flawed person. He’s a special type of stupid...... he doesn’t see past himself.
NBA coach rips POTUS over coronavirus response
2 trillion dollar package
NBA player licks and rubs everyone and everything in the room 2 hours before testing positive for it, as a show of dissent.
Season cancelled
#Winning
slick'81
03-25-2020, 05:28 PM
This place is about as toxic as it has ever been. Hard to believe that this is a basketball site.
With whats going on in our world nobody gives a shit about basketball right now
Harry Callahan
03-25-2020, 05:30 PM
I ask you Atl to spend maybe five minutes reviewing the resume and fine work of Trump's democrat opponent. Just fives minutes. That's all. Check out a few videos from the newly minted Biden "War Room". It's quite the revelation.
That guy is the alternative.
Atl Spur
03-25-2020, 05:40 PM
I ask you Atl to spend maybe five minutes reviewing the resume and fine work of Trump's democrat opponent. Just fives minutes. That's all. Check out a few videos from the newly minted Biden "War Room". It's quite the revelation.
That guy is the alternative.
Well again I say, my point of view has nothing to with political affiliation.... Quick questions, is this dude a compulsive liar? Do you ascribe to his inability to ever accept blame?
BackHome
03-25-2020, 05:47 PM
You all created Trump your screwed Sanders from having a fair shot at Hillary and he would have had a good chance of being President. Then now the party of Inclusion hands selects Creepy Old Joe and 80 year old rich White millionaire who has been a Senator for 36 years talking about Old Guard. You know you think as much as your hear LGBT..... everyday on CNN and ABC and MSNBC that they would have selected someone who represents someone from that group???But nope Creepy Old Joe
Atl Spur
03-25-2020, 05:54 PM
You all created Trump your screwed Sanders from having a fair shot at Hillary and he would have had a good chance of being President. Then now the party of Inclusion hands selects Creepy Old Joe and 80 year old rich White millionaire who has been a Senator for 36 years talking about Old Guard.
Sometimes you gotta take yourself out the game....... feel free to take a break from posting big guy!
paperboy77
03-25-2020, 06:25 PM
Y’all still talking about this shit?
Pop sux and is full of shit. What’s his solution for this mess we’re in?
Atl Spur
03-25-2020, 06:33 PM
Y’all still talking about this shit?
Pop sux and is full of shit. What’s his solution for this mess we’re in?
Pops not the president in case you forgot...... feel free to answer my question.
slick'81
03-25-2020, 07:03 PM
Y’all still talking about this shit?
Pop sux and is full of shit. What’s his solution for this mess we’re in?
There is no solution as long as demar/lma/gay/mills/forbes remain. A rebuild will not happen until then
dbestpro
03-25-2020, 07:21 PM
With whats going on in our world nobody gives a shit about basketball right now
So are you making the world a better place or are you on the sidelines complaining? Before you think to slam me back I am a nurse and I am on the FEBA.
slick'81
03-25-2020, 07:33 PM
So are you making the world a better place or are you on the sidelines complaining? Before you think to slam me back I am a nurse and I am on the FEBA.
My wife is also a nurse want to compare ?
ducks
03-25-2020, 11:06 PM
My wife is also a nurse want to compare ?
Examing your body as a nurse does not count
slick'81
03-25-2020, 11:09 PM
Examing your body as a nurse does not count
Welcome dorks! I knew youd come
ducks
03-25-2020, 11:15 PM
Earlier in the day, a senior GOP source told Fox News contributor and Townhall.com editor Guy Benson that the compromise bill was a face-saving exercise by Schumer, and that he was trying to "take credit" for a GOP bill that he filibustered for "small ball" alterations. Democrats, the source said, couldn't drag the situation out much longer; economic conditions have worsened dramatically, and President Trump's approval rating has risen.
Chuck needs to get off drugs
I hope this screws the donkeys !
Leetonidas
03-25-2020, 11:47 PM
In two weeks: "1000 deaths. No big deal!"
Shit not even two weeks :wow
Play Boban
03-26-2020, 12:46 AM
This place is about as toxic as it has ever been. Hard to believe that this is a basketball site.
Our head coach says “It’s just basketball.” We’ve got bigger things to worry about than some stupid game where a bunch of lankeys bounce a ball around for 2 and a half hours smh.
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-26-2020, 02:50 AM
Shit not even two weeks :wow
Next 1000 deaths will be in less than a week.
Atl Spur
03-26-2020, 07:25 AM
Still haven’t answered my question Ducks; don’t be scared to let us know a little about the Man providing his infinite wisdom!
Even with all this death and despair going on you still seek attention; your lame ass rep on this board will not survive this current display of foolishness! You better take your political affiliation goggles off and stop the game playing. That’s all CHUMP
ducks
03-26-2020, 08:56 AM
Over 1000 babies die in 2 weeks in USA
The regular flu kill over 100 a day
KobesAchilles
03-26-2020, 10:00 AM
Over 1000 babies die in 2 weeks in USA
The regular flu kill over 100 a day
Both are horrible stats but don’t really apply here. This is more contagious than the flu apparently (which is already contagious enough) and adding another disease on top of the deadly flu, like you point out, isn’t a good thing. We at least have some vaccines for the flu and some research on it. We’ve got nothing on this. But even though you’re right that as of now the flu is more deadly that doesn’t mean shit since we now have a another disease killing older people at a decent clip. And there are waaay more old people than babies btw.
BG_Spurs_Fan
03-26-2020, 10:19 AM
Both are horrible stats but don’t really apply here. This is more contagious than the flu apparently (which is already contagious enough)
To put it in numbers - 1 person with regular flu gets 1.3 other people ill on average. In turn each gets 1.3 more people ill, etc., so after 10 iterations the original flu patient is responsible for 14 other people getting the flu. ( 1.3 ^ 10 )
With coronavirus 1 person gets 3 other people ill. After 10 iterations the number of infected people is over 59 000. ( 3 ^10 )
ducks
03-26-2020, 10:29 AM
The shots for the flu 49 percent effect
I would not say that is great
ducks
03-26-2020, 10:31 AM
Did you know 35k died in car crashes(not counting ones injured )
Where is the cry you should be 30 or more to drive?
ducks
03-26-2020, 10:38 AM
The dr says he agrees with trump fundamentally
Dr uses science trump tries to use hope.
Trump is smart to give people some hope
especially with all the Doom and gloom.
Yeah if you have health issues yeah if you smoke it is very bad you get it
Italy is bad no sewage system. No place to watch hands . Most men smoke.
USA is not a third world country.
Ofcourse Trump wanted to go to China with USA dr and get ahead of it but China said fuck you.
Ofcourse if trump stayed a war to do that the you would be upset
Trump can do know right for the never trumpers
Leetonidas
03-26-2020, 10:40 AM
Over 1000 babies die in 2 weeks in USA
The regular flu kill over 100 a day
Cool random stat that has nothing to do with anything. You Trumptards sure love rambling about incoherent nonsense tbh
ducks
03-26-2020, 10:50 AM
Yeah how dare people compare it to other deaths in USA daily
BacktoBasics
03-26-2020, 11:30 AM
The shots for the flu 49 percent effect
I would not say that is great
49 percent more effective than your posting.
Kermit
03-26-2020, 11:45 AM
The shots for the flu 49 percent effect
I would not say that is great
What is the effectiveness of the covid-19 vaccine?
Kermit
03-26-2020, 11:48 AM
Did you know 35k died in car crashes(not counting ones injured )
Where is the cry you should be 30 or more to drive?
Why are you comparing car crashes to a pandemic? Are you insinuating that there isn't public policy with regards to safe driving, age restrictions on who can drive, driving tests for those who might be a danger to everyone else on the road, limits on speed, car safety requirements, etc? Have you ever heard of MADD? And I've been to plenty of funerals where a car accident happened that was completely preventable. Plenty of people cried.
KobesAchilles
03-26-2020, 12:22 PM
Why are you comparing car crashes to a pandemic? Are you insinuating that there isn't public policy with regards to safe driving, age restrictions on who can drive, driving tests for those who might be a danger to everyone else on the road, limits on speed, car safety requirements, etc? Have you ever heard of MADD? And I've been to plenty of funerals where a car accident happened that was completely preventable. Plenty of people cried.
He works for the tobacco company apparently. Literally the same argument their lawyers used when defending cigarettes and causation of cancer from smoking. “People die from car accidents but nobody bans cars.” False equivalency that has nothing to do with anything. Corona has a huge spread rate, far more than the flu. It kills approximately 9% of those 80+ and 5% of those 70+. The problem is that there are something like 28 million people in that age range living in the US and even if it’s just 5% death rate that’s still 1.5 million people dying in a rather short time span.
Leetonidas
03-26-2020, 01:02 PM
Why are you comparing car crashes to a pandemic? Are you insinuating that there isn't public policy with regards to safe driving, age restrictions on who can drive, driving tests for those who might be a danger to everyone else on the road, limits on speed, car safety requirements, etc? Have you ever heard of MADD? And I've been to plenty of funerals where a car accident happened that was completely preventable. Plenty of people cried.
He's legally retarded dude. Like legit has the iq of a potato
Italy is bad no sewage system. No place to watch hands . Most men smoke.
USA is not a third world country.
The US just passed Italy in reported cases (75,069 to 74,386). China alone remains in front (and they will fall in the next day or so).
We win, I guess.
ducks
03-26-2020, 01:40 PM
N.Y. To Begin Testing Malaria Drug In COVID-19 Battle
ducks
03-26-2020, 01:41 PM
So it is ok to kill people with cars just not A virus
ducks
03-26-2020, 01:41 PM
What is the effectiveness of the covid-19 vaccine?
N.Y. To Begin Testing Malaria Drug In COVID-19 Battle
100 percent
Kermit
03-26-2020, 02:05 PM
N.Y. To Begin Testing Malaria Drug In COVID-19 Battle
100 percent
You're insinuating that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are 100% effective against covid-19. I assume you have some scientific proof of this assertion.
Kermit
03-26-2020, 02:05 PM
So it is ok to kill people with cars just not A virus
Where has anyone said that it's okay to kill people with cars?
Leetonidas
03-26-2020, 02:38 PM
So it is ok to kill people with cars just not A virus
A car can't get you sick. Jesus fuck you're retarded
Atl Spur
03-26-2020, 02:40 PM
He likes the attention; just ignore him.
Leetonidas
03-26-2020, 02:41 PM
Using ducks' shitty "logic" I guess he is for abortions then 35k people die a year in car crashes so the amount of aborted fetuses doesn't matter :lmao
Frenchfred
03-26-2020, 03:15 PM
Over 1000 babies die in 2 weeks in USA
The regular flu kill over 100 a day
You still don’t understand the problem with the contagion rate of coronavirus. At that point, you have to be dumb or do it on purpose
Frenchfred
03-26-2020, 03:19 PM
The dr says he agrees with trump fundamentally
Dr uses science trump tries to use hope.
Trump is smart to give people some hope
especially with all the Doom and gloom.
Yeah if you have health issues yeah if you smoke it is very bad you get it
Italy is bad no sewage system. No place to watch hands . Most men smoke.
USA is not a third world country.
Ofcourse Trump wanted to go to China with USA dr and get ahead of it but China said fuck you.
Ofcourse if trump stayed a war to do that the you would be upset
Trump can do know right for the never trumpers
there is a difference between giving hope and giving the impression that it is okay to go out like there is no risk.
I’m glad that trump is pointing at a medecine solution from a socialist country like France :rollin
BackHome
03-26-2020, 03:55 PM
The US just passed Italy in reported cases (75,069 to 74,386). China alone remains in front (and they will fall in the next day or so).
We win, I guess.
You really believe China numbers cause I don’t I actually think there death rate is triple what Italy has
Atl Spur
03-26-2020, 04:29 PM
there is a difference between giving hope and giving the impression that it is okay to go out like there is no risk.
I’m glad that trump is pointing at a medecine solution from a socialist country like France :rollin
What he is doing is called LIES..... Fiction.....Bullshit Artist......All From An Imbecile.
Atl Spur
03-26-2020, 04:31 PM
Ducks still haven’t answered my question.... you usually like to throw out all those fun facts.
ducks
03-26-2020, 04:41 PM
A car can't get you sick. Jesus fuck you're retarded
No shit it can kill you with the help of a person driving or it can injury you
Leetonidas
03-26-2020, 04:54 PM
USA now has more confirmed cases than any other country in the world :lmao thanks Trump
Frenchfred
03-26-2020, 04:54 PM
No shit it can kill you with the help of a person driving or it can injury you
Good job. And a person with the coronavirus can contaminate many people and kill them. that’s why we need confinement. You have the right to think that we shouldn’t do the confinement and let 2% of the population die, then say so but please avoid stating lies that there is no risk or there is no problem
BackHome
03-26-2020, 05:48 PM
Sooner or latter the economy has to be opened up its nice if you have money but for most people working pay check to paycheck they will need work ASAP. I think we can handle one or two months but after that it’s going to get dicey you will definitely see a rise in break ins, car jacks, looting.
I am really worried about Brazil and Mexico they not taking it seriously at all I think this could be a tidal wave that’s going to hit then in about a month or two.
paperboy77
03-26-2020, 06:26 PM
Pops not the president in case you forgot...... feel free to answer my question.
Runs his trap like he has a solution but stops just short.
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