Snowpocolypse: rolling blackouts instituted

[boutons_deux]

PUC/ERCOT still gambling with 7% headroom capacity, vs the industry standard 15%?

deregulation/privatization is a total scam, anywhere.

[Winehole23]

maybe in the next Texas lege this will be a higher priority

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[Winehole23]

Republican government in Texas is failing at basic stuff


Texas’ main power grid struggled to keep up with the demand for electricity Monday, prompting the operator to ask Texans to conserve power until Friday.


The Electric Reliability Council of Texas said in a statement Monday that a significant number of unexpected power plant outages combined with expected record use of electricity due to hot weather has resulted in tight grid conditions. Approximately 12,000 megawatts of generation were offline Monday, or enough to power 2.4 million homes on a hot summer day.


ERCOT officials said the power plant outages were unexpected — and could not provide details as to what could be causing them.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E34femZX0AAMugT?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

the high was 98 degrees in Austin today -- way above normal but hardly unheard of for mid-June.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E33jqOcVIAM71GC?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

12MW of 86MW are offline.

I hope our grid is secure against cyber attacks and more hot summer days.

[Winehole23]

:lol ERCOT's social media goon

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[LaSíSí]

Junk filter thread, tbh.

[pgardn]

the high was 98 degrees in Austin today -- way above normal but hardly unheard of for mid-June.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E33jqOcVIAM71GC?format=jpg&name=900x900

It was horrible in SA as well.
I saw people strewn along the bike paths in various shaded areas, not at the regular water stops.
The humidity was the killer here, yesterday and today, combined with the temperature.
The advantage of biking in the heat is through evaporative cooling if you wear the right stuff and keep watering yourself inside and outside. But with the humidity so high, its does not work nearly as well. Room temp shower felt great though (its probably a little colder than that, the ground has not heated the pipes extensively like Aug, and into Sept.)

And now they will probably tell people its too hot to exercise and to stay inside with the intolerable temp. outside...?
Yeah. Thats not cool. EMS friend said they had multiple heat exhaustion calls on the bike paths today, Monday? Glad I was not out.

[ChumpDumper]

Junk filter thread, tbh.And yet, you're posting in it, derp.:lmao

[Winehole23]

interesting idea

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[pgardn]

Along those lines, I was wondering if our "saving" electricity during the "winter" storm through having our power out almost all the time during peak usage will lower our bills.

[Winehole23]

Junk filter thread, tbh.~700 people died last time we had "rolling blackouts"

maybe it's time to connect to the national grid to protect lives and businesses.

[pgardn]

~700 people died last time we had "rolling blackouts"

maybe it's time to connect to the national grid to protect lives and businesses.

"Its not our fault if some people are too stupid to figure out how to stay alive when the power is cut."

[Winehole23]

"Its not our fault if some people are too stupid to figure out how to stay alive when the power is cut."who said that?

[Winehole23]

ERCOT five weeks ago


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E33Kmi7XEAIv9ZR?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

According to ERCOT, about 75% of that unavailable power comes from “thermal” generators, typically gas and coal plants and nuclear plants, being offline.https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-06-14/ercot-calls-on-texas-to-conserve-power-amid-high-summer-demand-forced-outages

[Winehole23]

fingers crossed, glad I did all my laundry over the weekend


In the media call, Lasher repeatedly said he did not have information “available” on which plants were offline and why. ERCOT often does not share some of that data, saying it could violate the competitive secrets of power plant owners.


Lasher also said he would not “speculate” on the question of whether market manipulation may be to blame. ERCOT’s independent market monitor is charged with investigating fraud on the grid.


When supply and demand for electricity fall out of balance, the electric grid runs the risk of completely failing. In that scenario, hardware essential to the generation and transmission of electricity breaks down and the entire grid goes dark.


ERCOT officials have said re-energizing the state after such a collapse could take weeks. That is one reason they resort to planned blackouts to restore balance on the grid, viewing it as preferable to what they often refer to as "catastrophic failure" of the grid.

[Winehole23]

yesterday

Prof. Cohan called it.

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[Winehole23]

"Do you want AC, or do you want AOC?"


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E34l-23XwAEv37l?format=jpg&name=medium

[Winehole23]

snap poll:

how many of y'all have your thermostats set at 78F or higher?

(ours is currently at 80F)

[pgardn]

who said that?

My version of the red inclined friends on this board.
"Fend for yourself dammit Winehole. Every man for himself. Dog eat dog world. The strongest survive."

[pgardn]

snap poll:

how many of y'all have your thermostats set at 78F or higher?

(ours is currently at 80F)

76 F
My wife came home from riding a damn horse and turns it down.

[pgardn]

Cold shower and the fan and she will sleep fine at close to 80F.
I can sleep through about anything.

[Trainwreck2100]

snap poll:

how many of y'all have your thermostats set at 78F or higher?

(ours is currently at 80F)
thermostat is at 90 it's currently 88 in my place

[pgardn]

thermostat is at 90 it's currently 88 in my place

Im perspiring at those temps...

[Winehole23]

this is from Friday, 85 days after ERCOT and Texas energy providers shit the bed

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[Winehole23]

My version of the red inclined friends on this board.
"Fend for yourself dammit Winehole. Every man for himself. Dog eat dog world. The strongest survive."funny, I thought one of the main reasons we have a government was so that everything doesn't have to be a war of all against all.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew2NepRXAAUbQaw?format=png&name=small


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E34mas0WQAEvMXx?format=jpg&name=medium

[ChumpDumper]

snap poll:

how many of y'all have your thermostats set at 78F or higher?

(ours is currently at 80F)I never go under 78F for AC. Fans cost basically nothing to run if I need to feel cooler.

[pgardn]

funny, I thought one of the main reasons we have a government was so that everything doesn't have to be a war of all against all.

"Yes well it started like that.
But now its a way to control us.
Like suggesting we get magnetic vaccines put in our bodies so refrigerators stick to our head.
They are out to fool us and use us."

[Mark Celibate]

surprised the 'russian boogeyman hacker' card hasn't been played yet tbh imho

[DMC]

surprised the 'russian boogeyman hacker' card hasn't been played yet tbh imho

That card has folded edges and is well worn imo, it can be easily detected in the deck.

[Winehole23]

surprised the 'russian boogeyman hacker' card hasn't been played yet tbh imhonowhere in this thread, 52 pages so far.

[ChumpDumper]

Texas Republicans fucked this one up all by themselves.

[Mark Celibate]

That card has folded edges and is well worn imo, it can be easily detected in the deck.

tbh that card has been a tried and true method time and time again....old faithful, it's like the "Kareem skyhook" or "Duncan bank shot" of politics imo

[DMC]

tbh that card has been a tried and true method time and time again....old faithful, it's like the "Kareem skyhook" or "Duncan bank shot" of politics imo

Would only work if Trump was still in office. Using it now says Biden allowed it. We know the nation is secure now.

[Winehole23]

Would only work if Trump was still in office. Using it now says Biden allowed it. We know the nation is secure now.It wouldn't work if Trump was in office.

Texas isn't connected to the national grid, nor is it regulated by the feds. This is 100% on the state government and on greedy, irresponsible energy companies.

[DMC]

It wouldn't work if Trump was in office.

Texas isn't connected to the national grid, nor is it regulated by the feds. This is 100% on the state government and on greedy, irresponsible energy companies.

Penny ante details. Unimportant.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol theoretical straw man

[pgardn]

Texas Republicans fucked this one up all by themselves.

They tried to make a hard right turn and slid off the highway.
Unfortunately we were in the car.

[Winehole23]

:lol theoretical straw mancouldn't be bothered to find a take to disagree with, so they just made one up to disagree with.

[pgardn]

couldn't be bothered to find a take to disagree with, so they just made one up to disagree with.

bingo

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

for-profit, deregulated shithole Texas electric grid can't handle cold, can't handle hot,

but $28B excess profits after deregulation (vs. regulated)

[Winehole23]

resiliency is related to reliability

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[Ef-man]

for-profit, deregulated shithole Texas electric grid can't handle cold, can't handle hot,

but $28B excess profits after deregulation (vs. regulated)

Thoughts and prayers to everyone in Texas.

80 degrees here in Virginia and will open windows later tonight when temperature drops to 70s-60s.

[RandomGuy]

I'm sure we will get another bathroom bill or something about guns from the dipshits running the state.

[spurraider21]

at our old condo we generally kept our AC at 78 anyway and it was fine. in our new place the upstairs gets a lot warmer than whatever the thermostat is set at, so we've been dropping it to 75 at nights, and leaving the fan on "on" instead of "auto". the stuffiness is more bothersome than the heat itself, and opening the windows does no good since its always dense, humid air at this time

[Winehole23]

Penny ante details. Unimportant.Nope.

Those are the crucial details, you fucking sophist :lol

[Winehole23]

Punch line: the money will come from funds appropriated the TDCJ budget

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[baseline bum]

at our old condo we generally kept our AC at 78 anyway and it was fine. in our new place the upstairs gets a lot warmer than whatever the thermostat is set at, so we've been dropping it to 75 at nights, and leaving the fan on "on" instead of "auto". the stuffiness is more bothersome than the heat itself, and opening the windows does no good since its always dense, humid air at this time

You're in Charlottesville right? I just looked it up and your dewpoint is like 49F right now. Last week in San Antonio we were having dewpoints in the high 70s in the middle of the day and mid 70s Monday and Tuesday this week. Sorry man I can't call ~50F dewpoint humid. Seems like comparing apples to oranges the difference in 78 degrees there vs in a place like San Antonio, Austin, or Houston if ~50 degree dewpoint (eg absolute humidity) is standard.

[pgardn]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone in Texas.

80 degrees here in Virginia and will open windows later tonight when temperature drops to 70s-60s.

This is a great nights sleep. with rain.
Nothing better for sweet repose (Thread would have said this)

[spurraider21]

You're in Charlottesville right? I just looked it up and your dewpoint is like 49F right now. Last week in San Antonio we were having dewpoints in the high 70s in the middle of the day and mid 70s Monday and Tuesday this week. Sorry man I can't call ~50F dewpoint humid. Seems like comparing apples to oranges the difference in 78 degrees there vs in a place like San Antonio, Austin, or Houston if ~50 degree dewpoint (eg absolute humidity) is standard.
you caught us at a good time imo. Last couple weeks were worse. Weather this week has been nice. Cool evenings for once

bear in mind my frame of reference is coming from having lived in LA :lol

[spurraider21]

baseline bum

looking back at the first couple weeks of June we regularly had dewpoints in the high 60's or mid-low 70s

https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/va/charlottesville/KCHO

[baseline bum]

you caught us at a good time imo. Last couple weeks were worse. Weather this week has been nice. Cool evenings for once

bear in mind my frame of reference is coming from having lived in LA :lol

I see your average lows are in the mid 60s in summer. Ours are in the mid 70s. Dewpoint can't exceed temperature and out here dewpoint = daily low temperature usually in the summer so yeah your humidity is nowhere close to ours so a complete apples to oranges comparison. But I can see how any place would feel humid compared to LA. :lol

[baseline bum]

baseline bum

looking back at the first couple weeks of June we regularly had dewpoints in the high 60's or mid-low 70s

https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/va/charlottesville/KCHO

Ugh ~75 it really feels disgusting. ~80 though is really nasty. Thankfully it rarely gets to 80 dewpoint here but imagine it does pretty often in Houston, which is a whole other level of humidity that makes San Antonio feel comfortable in comparison.

[DMC]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone in Texas.

80 degrees here in Virginia and will open windows later tonight when temperature drops to 70s-60s.

Then your cousin can sneak in and ya'll can fuck and eat mayonnaise sandwiches before you urinate out the window.

[Winehole23]

Pure trolling and ankle biting, few topical takes, even fewer threads.

Low quality poster.

[Ef-man]

Chinese are coming for your electricity Texas.

Bitcoin miners exit China, beat a path to the U.S. as crypto climate shifts.

Jiang Zhuoer became a multimillionaire a few years ago by operating some of the most lucrative mines in China. His commodity? Bitcoin.

Jiang had about 300,000 computers humming around-the-clock in 20 specially ventilated warehouses across remote northern China, guzzling enough electricity to power a small city. The sophisticated machines cost hundreds of millions of dollars. The digital currency they minted was worth even more.

Today, Jiang, a fast-talking 36-year-old, is winding down in China. He and several Chinese investors — some who became billionaires off bitcoin mining — are considering shipping their equipment to Texas and Tennessee.

China’s bitcoin moguls are coming to America.

For years, Chinese miners like Jiang were enabled by the glut of cheap — and often dirty — electricity in China, where a massive fleet of coal-fired plants and hydroelectric dams fueled the country’s rise into an industrial behemoth. At their height in 2018, China’s bitcoin prospectors accounted for 74 percent of the world’s bitcoin production....

But the arrival of industrial-scale mining in U.S. communities could raise the same thorny questions about the technology’s environmental impact that have vexed officials in China.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences this year predicted China’s bitcoin mining industry by 2024 could consume more energy than Italy. University of Cambridge researchers estimated that bitcoin miners globally accounted for more energy use than Argentina....

One Chinese miner, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared political repercussions in China, said he predicted 60 to 70 percent of his peers would migrate their operations to the United States or Europe.

He said he is building about 50 shipping containers to house his computers to plop onto an oil field in West Texas, and is breaking ground on a 33-megawatt site in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bitcoin-mining-china-crypto-america/2021/06/17/0a39c3a8-c903-11eb-8708-64991f2acf28_story.html

[Winehole23]

Gov. Greg Abbott says power grid better than ever as Texans asked to cut back electricity use (https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/16/texas-power-grid-ercot-greg-abbott/)

[Frenchfred]

Texas looks like a third world country sometimes. It was a perfect example of how capitalism is not always beneficial to the population. Some things are better when handled by the public sector.

[boutons_deux]

How a week-old fire at Comanche Peak shut down a nuclear power unit and pressured Texas’ grid

The cause of fire in a main transformer at the plant 60 miles southwest of Dallas remains under investigation.

has been offline for more than a week following a June 7 fire in the main transformer,

putting pressure on the Texas power grid and

contributing to this week’s plea for statewide conservation.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/2021/06/15/a-fire-a-week-ago-forced-comanche-peak-to-shut-down-a-nuclear-power-unit-pressuring-the-states-grid

[Winehole23]

Texas losing out already

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[Winehole23]

Republicans and greedy energy companies not only can't keep the lights on, ratepayers will be paying for the privilege of getting screwed by the same for twenty or thirty years.

Meanwhile, public bonds and money from the RAINY DAY FUND will heal the energy companies.

If only education, healthcare and (other) infrastructure were so lucky after an epochal pandemic. :lol

[Winehole23]

(it would also be also be nice if we fixed the fucking grid instead of studying the problem again)

[Winehole23]

Republicans and greedy energy companies not only can't keep the lights on, ratepayers will be paying for the privilege of getting screwed by the same for twenty or thirty years.
.
Meanwhile, public bonds and money from the RAINY DAY FUND will heal the energy companies.

If only education, healthcare and (other) infrastructure were so lucky after an epochal pandemic. :loland an avoidable winter blackout. the problem was known after 2011, and Republicans did bupkis to fix it.

[Winehole23]

Republicans are bad at governing. Why do they hate the public and undermine the public good?

Profit before people, tbh.

[Thread]

Republicans are bad at governing. Why do they hate the public and undermine the public good?

Profit before people, tbh.

Though as soon as mother fucker Biden got his illegitimate ass in there he promptly shut the pipe line, thus (undermine the public good) at a rate of a $1 more a gallon gasoline, just like mother fucker Hussein did 12 years prior...The democrat credo:::"Make President, installed or not and raise gasoline a $1 a gallon."

Every fucking time you get your asses in there. I'll turn that question around to you, Winester:::"Why do they hate the public and undermine the public good?"

Fuck it, I'll answer: because they got theirs and don't give 2 shits, not 1 fucking lick for "the public good" because THEY GOT THEIRS!!! (They) can afford to fuck us over, because THEY GOT THEIRS!!!

Like pullin' fuckin' teeth with you, Winester.

[Frenchfred]

Though as soon as mother fucker Biden got his illegitimate ass in there he promptly shut the pipe line, thus (undermine the public good) at a rate of a $1 more a gallon gasoline, just like mother fucker Hussein did 12 years prior...The democrat credo:::"Make President, installed or not and raise gasoline a $1 a gallon."

Every fucking time you get your asses in there. I'll turn that question around to you, Winester:::"Why do they hate the public and undermine the public good?"

Fuck it, I'll answer: because they got theirs and don't give 2 shits, not 1 fucking lick for "the public good" because THEY GOT THEIRS!!! (They) can afford to fuck us over, because THEY GOT THEIRS!!!

Like pullin' fuckin' teeth with you, Winester.

everytime we get there, we inherit an economic crisis while you start with good economic growth and f.ck everything up (trump, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan...)

[Thread]

everytime we get there, we inherit an economic crisis while you start with good economic growth and f.ck everything up (trump, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan...)

You raise gas a dollar a gallon every-fucking-timePERIOD

Then CNN finds a Republican, oh, yeah who states:::"I don't like President Obama, I really don't. I did not vote for him, but I am in agreement that he was right in increasing gasoline a dollar a gallon. Thank you."

tee, hee.

[Frenchfred]

You raise gas a dollar a gallon every-fucking-timePERIOD

Then CNN finds a Republican, oh, yeah who states:::"I don't like President Obama, I really don't. I did not vote for him, but I am in agreement that he was right in increasing gasoline a dollar a gallon. Thank you."

tee, hee.

poor thing, your gasoline is a little more expensive ouin ouin ouin.

[Thread]

poor thing, your gasoline is a little more expensive ouin ouin ouin.

Every time you get in there, like clockwork.

[Frenchfred]

Every time you get in there, like clockwork.

my gas is too high, where are my handouts, ouin, ouin ouin Biden stole the electrion, ouin ouin ouin.

[Thread]

my gas is too high, where are my handouts, ouin, ouin ouin Biden stole the electrion, ouin ouin ouin.

You forgot to call me [mother fucker.]

tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

Every time you get in there, like clockwork.in a free market, there's no right to cheap gasoline or cheap anything.

[Thread]

in a free market, there's no right to cheap gasoline or cheap anything.

Race hustlers Hussein & Biden are living proof of your claim.

[Winehole23]

Race hustlers Hussein & Biden are living proof of your claim.There's no right to cheap gas no matter who's in charge.

Are you familiar with how free enterprise works?

[Winehole23]

lot of chatter about BTC miners coming to Texas

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[ChumpDumper]

lot of chatter about BTC miners coming to Texas

1406382385785192451They're going to move to Texas.

[Winehole23]

They're going to move to Texas.Do we know where in Texas? If they end up far enough east or west, they might not be on the Texas grid.

[boutons_deux]

Could mean a lot of viable ASIC machines dumped onto Alibaba sellers

[boutons_deux]

Some water-stressed communities are questioning their welcoming of extremely thirsty datacenters.

Microsoft in SA seems to be making an effort

https://ceowatermandate.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Water_Risk_Monetizer_Microsoft_Case_Study.pdf

[RandomGuy]

They're going to move to Texas.

I"m sure that will make the power grid so much better.

Charge the FUCK out of them IMO, if they want to be here, they can subsidize the rest of us.

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/a60b5ca2c5bd57e4aaaa97d0e1c6670c.png

[RandomGuy]

Republicans are bad at governing. Why do they hate the public and undermine the public good?

Profit before people, tbh.

Now just convince the ducks and Darrins of that.

[Ef-man]

Now just convince the ducks and Darrins of that.

Though ducks is too dense to understand what you are saying, there is plenty of good information to inform friends/family being influenced by fox/oann bs.

[Thread]

Now just convince the ducks and Darrins of that.

Me too, RG. Try and convince me as well. Go ahead, just fuckin' try, you fuckin' fart face, you.

[pgardn]

Me too, RG. Try and convince me as well. Go ahead, just fuckin' try, you fuckin' fart face, you.

"You cannot reason a man out of something he did not reason himself into."

-Jonathan Swift.

Sure thread, sure...

[Thread]

"You cannot reason a man out of something he did not reason himself into."

-Jonathan Swift.

Sure thread, sure...

I knew I'd chosen correctly the moment that old man held fast thru that long night, came out the next mornin' and blasted hair all over them walls, peeg.

"Both sides."

That was it and that was all. I've never looked back. And I'll grant ya, he was teetering. I wrote him a riot act the evening before on the Twitter. I warned him repeatedly and at length to stand fast in the ranks on -both sides- and as we both know he soldiered in the finest traditions.

Both sides

"God bless America and the men who made her free."

[RandomGuy]

Though ducks is too dense to understand what you are saying, there is plenty of good information to inform friends/family being influenced by fox/oann bs.

You can deprogram some of them. There is an art to it. Patience and questions.

[Ef-man]

You can deprogram some of them. There is an art to it. Patience and questions.

Guess so.

Sorry Dale, but you have to know when to hold them and when to fold them, cause you cannot be reached under your blind hatred of Biden and trump’s dickmatization.

[Thread]

Guess so.

Sorry Dale, but you have to know when to hold them and when to fold them, cause you cannot be reached under your blind hatred of Biden and trump’s dickmatization.

I'll hold 'em, in a death grip...

- "No sir. You couldn't drag me away."

- "Sgt. Al Powell" - "Die Hard"

[boutons_deux]

Texas Consumers Lose Control Of Their Thermostats,

Get Another Crash Course In Value Of Competent Regulators

Customers had apparently signed up for a "sweepstakes" where

the fine print in a massive, overlong end user agreement gave control of their own AC thermostats over to the local utility:


"The family’s smart thermostat was installed a few years ago as part of a new home security package.

Many smart thermostats can be enrolled in a program called "Smart Savers Texas." It's operated by a company called EnergyHub.

The agreement states that in exchange for an entry into sweepstakes, electric customers allow them to control their thermostats during periods of high energy demand.

EnergyHub’s list of its clients include TXU Energy, CenterPoint and ERCOT.


the data collected from such devices (which gives a pretty detailed readout of your daily behavior) was being monetized and sold or shared with law enforcement without consumers' explicit consent.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210621/09523347033/texas-consumers-lose-control-their-thermostats-get-another-crash-course-value-competent-regulators.shtml

[boutons_deux]

Paxton dictates that ERCOT is immune from FOIA

[Ef-man]

Texas Consumers Lose Control Of Their Thermostats,

Get Another Crash Course In Value Of Competent Regulators

Customers had apparently signed up for a "sweepstakes" where

the fine print in a massive, overlong end user agreement gave control of their own AC thermostats over to the local utility:


"The family’s smart thermostat was installed a few years ago as part of a new home security package.

Many smart thermostats can be enrolled in a program called "Smart Savers Texas." It's operated by a company called EnergyHub.

The agreement states that in exchange for an entry into sweepstakes, electric customers allow them to control their thermostats during periods of high energy demand.

EnergyHub’s list of its clients include TXU Energy, CenterPoint and ERCOT.


the data collected from such devices (which gives a pretty detailed readout of your daily behavior) was being monetized and sold or shared with law enforcement without consumers' explicit consent.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210621/09523347033/texas-consumers-lose-control-their-thermostats-get-another-crash-course-value-competent-regulators.shtml

Sweepstakes implies there is a contest. So the question is: so what is the prize, who has won, and when is it over?

[boutons_deux]

ERCOT’S convenient identity crisis

ERCOT has argued that it is not subject to the public information law because

it is not a government entity.

State Attorney General Ken Paxton :lol (not a lawyer) apparently agrees.

But ERCOT is also facing dozens of lawsuits regarding its performance this winter. Its defense, made in a court filing in April, is that it “will continue to assert that

it is entitled to sovereign immunity due to its organization and function as an arm of State government (https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/09/ercot-lawsuit-immunity-winter-storm/).”

So it’s an “arm of State government” when it comes to being sued,

but an “independent” non-profit corporation when it comes to public accountability.

https://sanantonioreport.org/ercot-convenient-identity-crisis

In short, the will be no accountability for PUC/ERCOT nor for the Capitalists who continue fleecing Texans with their rigged de-regulated electricity market.

[Winehole23]

when the grid fails in Texas the lege crafts a solution that doesn't solve the problem, but enriches energy companies at public expense and in so doing, indirectly funds its own reeelection.

[Winehole23]

The National Weather Service said the mercury reached 109 F (42.2 C) in Spokane— the highest temperature ever recorded there.


About 9,300 Avista Utilities customers in Spokane lost power on Monday and the company said more planned blackouts began on Tuesday afternoon in the city of about 220,000 people.


“We try to limit outages to one hour per customer,” said Heather Rosentrater, an Avista vice president for energy delivery.
https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-government-and-politics-business-environment-and-nature-6a66be20ed86ad18ed131156c9f7a517

[Winehole23]

Ted Cruz Is Strongly Considering Humiliating Himself Again (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgx4dn/ted-cruz-is-strongly-considering-humiliating-himself-again)

“I’ll tell you, 2016 was the most fun I’ve ever had in my life,” Cruz added. “We came incredibly close, we had an incredible grassroots army.”

[Winehole23]

motherfuckers, but we knew that already



Thanks to skyrocketing energy costs during the February freeze that paralyzed the state and killed hundreds of people, Texans will be paying billions of dollars (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/politics/texas/article/winter-storm-uri-hidden-costs-taxpayers-texas-16255974.php) in higher gas and electric bills for decades. Now, energy companies are asking to pass on millions, even billions in additional storm-related costs to state ratepayers.https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Here-we-go-again-Power-companies-seek-to-16301804.php

[Winehole23]

societal judgement about the grid failure that sent ~700 Texans to the graveyard?

sure, why not?


Because the new requirements “represent a societal judgment that mandates an additional investment in additional extreme weather conditions,” it only makes sense that the public pick up that cost, Calpine Corporation, a large Houston-based electricity generation company, wrote in a filing late last month.

[koriwhat]

Yo Wine you're the new Bouts where you literally post articles and bs for yourself to read in your own threads... :lmao

Both of yall retards are fucking annoying af!

[Winehole23]

"if we have to fix our shit, we'll go out of business. pity if anything bad should happen to your grid because of that."


Absorbing the costs might cause some companies to become uncompetitive in the cutthroat Texas energy market, which would force them to take generation facilities offline, thus decreasing the grid’s overall reliability, warned Texas Competitive Power Advocates, which represents electric generation companies. “Companies without cost recovery will be forced to decide whether to invest in capital improvements or to retire or seasonally mothball those marginal units,” it said in a filing.

[Winehole23]

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[pgardn]

Yo Wine you're the new Bouts where you literally post articles and bs for yourself to read in your own threads... :lmao

Both of yall retards are fucking annoying af!

Winehole has some outstanding stuff. I guess you like giving your hard earned money to a bunch of fat cats in the energy business? You have AC in your business?
I guess because its not immediately on FOX or CNN its worthless. Its old news that affects YOU and I every month.
How do you determine what is a legit subject to post on? Because you listen to radio all day that inflames you?
How?

At least the fckn read something and not dream stuff up. As an news editor you would determine what people should be discussing how? All this comes from somewhere. You want to discuss the Florida condo collapse and try to relate to the Twin Towers like derp?

[koriwhat]

I guess because its not immediately on FOX or CNN its worthless. Its old news that affects YOU and I every month.
How do you determine what is a legit subject to post on? Because you listen to radio all day that inflames you?
How?

At least the fckn read something and not dream stuff up.

Dream shit up like you're doing rn thinking I watch FOX or CNN and listen to the radio all day? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[pgardn]

Dream shit up like you're doing rn thinking I watch FOX or CNN and listen to the radio all day? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The world goes on around as us we do our jobs.
You, however, have this magical way of determining what is happening and then not giving a fck.
You obtain information from somewhere. Or you hallucinate it...

[RandomGuy]

Houses and apartments on the same grid block as "essential" hospitals are safe from power outages.

The asshats you keep voting for at the state level still haven't made fixing the grid any kind of priority.

FYI.

[koriwhat]

The world goes on around as us we do our jobs.
You, however, have this magical way of determining what is happening and then not giving a fck.
You obtain information from somewhere. Or you hallucinate it...

Awesome story bro. It kills you that I entertain your "sources" argument. :lol

[pgardn]

Awesome story bro. It kills you that I entertain your "sources" argument. :lol

No you dont entertain them.
You have zero answers.
And really thats all that requires illustration. kills me... Im dying here...sure...

[koriwhat]

No you dont entertain them.
You have zero answers.
And really thats all that requires illustration. kills me... Im dying here...sure...

I could just play pretend and put words in your mouth like you've done me the last few days. Which one is more entertaining to you?

[pgardn]

I could just play pretend and put words in your mouth like you've done me the last few days. Which one is more entertaining to you?

Instead you just pretend you know what happens in places you and I cannot be.
And then make grand proclamations on what it means to be a man and that the government is after you.
You seriously just want to derp it? You also want to tell us Bill Gates put tracking devices in the vaccine?
You make decisions like a big boy, you base them on witch doctors or Youtubers who live afraid in their basement like derp?

Did Donald Trump have the election stolen from him?

[Winehole23]

Gov. Abbott, lying to Chris Wallace about the Texas grid on Fox News.

"Mainly a paperwork issue"

"Already fixed by robust legislation"

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[koriwhat]

Instead you just pretend you know what happens in places you and I cannot be.
And then make grand proclamations on what it means to be a man and that the government is after you.
You seriously just want to derp it? You also want to tell us Bill Gates put tracking devices in the vaccine?
You make decisions like a big boy, you base them on witch doctors or Youtubers who live afraid in their basement like derp?

Did Donald Trump have the election stolen from him?

Do you read the asinine bullshit you spout bro?

When did I ever suggest anything about Bill Gates let alone tracking devices in the bullshit Vaccine(s)? Lmao I watch witch doctors on YT now too huh?

You're losing your mind over nothing. Go play with the other pussies on this forum already and fuck off bro!

[Winehole23]

it's even worse than we thought. producers cut output and raised prices before the winter storm.

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[pgardn]

I
Do you read the asinine bullshit you spout bro?

When did I ever suggest anything about Bill Gates let alone tracking devices in the bullshit Vaccine(s)? Lmao I watch witch doctors on YT now too huh?

You're losing your mind over nothing. Go play with the other pussies on this forum already and fuck off bro!

That I spout?
Sure thing bud.
I see you correcting your bosom buddy derp all the time.

You are NOT a see through coward like he is. Yet you hang on his ideas.
You dare lecture the board about what a man is and then tell ME I am spouting bs.
Get over yourself. You are acting exactly like derp and you can’t see it. Other pussies... you know who the biggest lying coward on this board is... ? derp. This is who you align with. Are you a lying pussy coward like he is? And you tell me to go play with pussies when he cries out for you... get real. You align with a nutcase and parrot him then guess what...

[pgardn]

it's even worse than we thought. producers cut output and raised prices before the winter storm.

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Shithole Texas red rubes who proclaim a hate for cheating big business won’t touch this.

[Winehole23]

Shithole Texas red rubes who proclaim a hate for cheating big business won’t touch this.people should go to prison for this, but they won't

[boutons_deux]

people should go to prison for this, but they won't

but a TX black man is going to prison for 40 years, after $100K bail, Houston man but Paxton charged him in nearby white county, for voting twice because TX did not make clear to him that he couldn't vote.

The bill that would have made parolee voting rights explicitly clear was vetoed by Perry. Keeping the darkees in the dark is how racist TX rolls.

[koriwhat]

I

That I spout?
Sure thing bud.
I see you correcting your bosom buddy derp all the time.

You are NOT a see through coward like he is. Yet you hang on his ideas.
You dare lecture the board about what a man is and then tell ME I am spouting bs.
Get over yourself. You are acting exactly like derp and you can’t see it. Other pussies... you know who the biggest lying coward on this board is... ? derp. This is who you align with. Are you a lying pussy coward like he is? And you tell me to go play with pussies when he cries out for you... get real. You align with a nutcase and parrot him then guess what...

In the last few interactions I've had with you you've most definitely lied and made up a bunch of bs to fit your crazy idea of who I am. You're not the genuine person I thought you were PG. You lie like the rest bro and then you have the audacity to get smug with me when you sir are the pathological liar in this situation rn.

As for the Spurt thing, you and the rest of your ilk see us as besties but IDC for any of yall. I simply reply to others, when they're shitting on him or anyone else, with a mirror so they can see they're acting and doing the same shit. If yall can't handle that well that's not my problem; how about yall stop throwing stones while in glass houses yall losers!

[Winehole23]

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[pgardn]

In the last few interactions I've had with you you've most definitely lied and made up a bunch of bs to fit your crazy idea of who I am. You're not the genuine person I thought you were PG. You lie like the rest bro and then you have the audacity to get smug with me when you sir are the pathological liar in this situation rn.

As for the Spurt thing, you and the rest of your ilk see us as besties but IDC for any of yall. I simply reply to others, when they're shitting on him or anyone else, with a mirror so they can see they're acting and doing the same shit. If yall can't handle that well that's not my problem; how about yall stop throwing stones while in glass houses yall losers!

Can you tell me why you and derp have proclaimed yourselves alphas and why the rest are betas?
YOU and DERP classify MEN as weak or strong. This is an obvious hang up for two unmarried "ALPHAS" with no kids.

Go through your reasoning on this because this strangest coincidence that you BOTH have a lock on this assessment.
Go ahead, step through it for the board. There is no lie in this. You want to go back through your incessant posts of rating men?

[koriwhat]

Can you tell me why you and derp have proclaimed yourselves alphas and why the rest are betas?
YOU and DERP classify MEN as weak or strong. This is an obvious hang up for two unmarried "ALPHAS" with no kids.

Go through your reasoning on this because this strangest coincidence that you BOTH have a lock on this assessment.
Go ahead, step through it for the board. There is no lie in this. You want to go back through your incessant posts of rating men?

STFU bro and stop crying already. Who the fuck said you weren't a man? Stop jackingoff Blake, Chump, et al... Also stop trying to make Spurt and I a thing just because you despise him and I despise most of yall. I'd rather communicate with Spurt than a bunch of pussies who constantly hound me with all their alts and fluff each other at every opportunity.

As well, lumping me in with Spurt isn't such a slap in the face because the alternative woukd be lumping me in with the bitchass males here who claim they've met up with me to beat my ass. Fuck all of yall tbh! :tu

[pgardn]

STFU bro and stop crying already. Who the fuck said you weren't a man? Stop jackingoff Blake, Chump, et al... Also stop trying to make Spurt and I a thing just because you despise him and I despise most of yall. I'd rather communicate with Spurt than a bunch of pussies who constantly hound me with all their alts and fluff each other at every opportunity.

As well, lumping me in with Spurt isn't such a slap in the face because the alternative woukd be lumping me in with the bitchass males here who claim they've met up with me to beat my ass. Fuck all of yall tbh! :tu

Im not crying.
I am saying you and derp have absolutely no credibility rating what a MAN, is.
People have claimed they met you and beat your ass? or claim to have met you to beat your ass but did not actually beat your ass?

Who would these males be?

[koriwhat]

Im not crying.
I am saying you and derp have absolutely no credibility rating what a MAN, is.
People have claimed they met you and beat your ass? or claim to have met you to beat your ass but did not actually beat your ass?

Who would these males be?

People claim a lot here on ST but the fact of the matter is 99.99% of yall are straight up pussies and all yall got are the false claims. That's it. Never met any of you dumbfucks in my life except a couple people back in like 2003 or 2004. Those making claims aren't real men! Prove me wrong bro!

Same goes for the rest who talk shit and try to intimidate here on ST when we all know they're all pussies.

As well, why are you so hung up on what Spurt or myself has to say? Kick rocks bro.

[pgardn]

People claim a lot here on ST but the fact of the matter is 99.99% of yall are straight up pussies and all yall got are the false claims. That's it. Never met any of you dumbfucks in my life except a couple people back in like 2003 or 2004. Those making claims aren't real men! Prove me wrong bro!

Same goes for the rest who talk shit and try to intimidate here on ST when we all know they're all pussies.

As well, why are you so hung up on what Spurt or myself has to say? Kick rocks bro.

Why are you hung up on what I post about you or derp?
YDGAF.

When people lie and contradict themselves I will point it out.
When people post absolute BS I will point it out. Im tired of it. There is an advantage for a democracy to attempt to tell the truth. This is the OPPOSITE of what derp does. And yes, this is a POLITICAL forum.
but you dont need to read it or react to it.
So peace out again maybe. Its Sunday.

[koriwhat]

Why are you hung up on what I post about you or derp?
YDGAF.

When people lie and contradict themselves I will point it out.
When people post absolute BS I will point it out. Im tired of it. There is an advantage for a democracy to attempt to tell the truth. This is the OPPOSITE of what derp does. And yes, this is a POLITICAL forum.
but you dont need to read it or react to it.
So peace out again maybe. Its Sunday.

:lmao

[pgardn]

:lmao

tickle tickle...

[koriwhat]

Go play with your cats PG

[pgardn]

Go play with your tats PG

I dont have any.
Or cats...

[Winehole23]

regulating the ratepayers, tbh

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[RandomGuy]

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muh bathrooms and "OMG Democrats might vote, can't have that!" bills.

[Winehole23]

should be interesting, PUC discussion of "redesigning" the wholesale energy market in Texas

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[Winehole23]

Still no grid reforms in the special session.

Abbott and Republicans are seemingly cool with letting ratepayers fade the heat, over decades, for the catastrophic failure of GOP governance and the free market,

[Winehole23]

cutting it close

1432361378308935683 (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1432361378308935683?s=20)

[baseline bum]

it's even worse than we thought. producers cut output and raised prices before the winter storm.

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System worked as designed to. Dog bites man again.

[RandomGuy]

cutting it close

1432361378308935683 (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1432361378308935683?s=20)

Tesla's getting ready to build two megabattery facilities in Texas.

Gonna be fun watching them fuck over the natgas speculators next time it freezes.

[Winehole23]

electricity rates have gone up so much in Spain that the government proposes to confiscate the extraordinary profits of the energy companies.

tax and spend is passe. better to raid and redistribute.


The Council of Ministers has approved a Royal Decree-Law with measures aimed at reducing the final electricity bill (https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/consejodeministros/Paginas/enlaces/140921-enlace-luz.aspx) of consumers by 22% on average (https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/consejodeministros/Paginas/enlaces/140921-enlace-luz.aspx) until the end of the year.


The third vice president and minister for the Ecological Transition and the Demographic Challenge, Teresa Ribera, has indicated that the Government's commitment, announced by its president, Pedro Sánchez, is to ensure that the average price paid by a consumer in 2021 is equivalent to the one paid in 2018.


Ribera stressed that the Executive has always worked in a manner consistent with its objective of achieving a clean, efficient energy system with affordable prices that facilitates the diversification and democratization of the actors that participate in it. Thus, he recalled the measures adopted on production and consumption - promotion of self-consumption and local energy communities -, energy efficiency, tax structure - VAT reduction from 21 to 10% (https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/consejodeministros/Paginas/enlaces/240621-enlace-luz.aspx) - and social protection of the most vulnerable energy consumers throughout the legislature.
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/consejodeministros/resumenes/Paginas/2021/140721-cministros.aspx

[Ef-man]

electricity rates have gone up so much in Spain that the government proposes to confiscate the extraordinary profits of the energy companies.

tax and spend is passe. better to raid and redistribute.

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/consejodeministros/resumenes/Paginas/2021/140721-cministros.aspx

Wait a bit in Texas as this will be your state song soon enough.


https://youtu.be/ySb1f9zWJkQ

[boutons_deux]

How Market Manipulation Might Have Worsened The Texas Blackout

In Texas, the price of energy is based on supply and demand. (ie, non regulated)

Whether you’re talking about megawatts of electricity or cubic feet of natural gas, that means

energy usually becomes more expensive when there's less of it available.

Ed Hirs, an energy economist at the University of Houston, said that

presents obvious opportunities for gaming the system.

Higher prices mean energy sellers can make more money selling less energy.

“When producers and generators can combine and withhold power from the market, they can drive the price up,” he told KUT last spring (https://kutkutx.studio/the-disconnect-power-politics-and-the-texas-blackout/episode-2-the-electricity-game).

“They can do it either willfully, or they can do it with willful blindness” by allowing their supply chain to break down.

In the Texas electricity market, withholding supply to drive prices up is against the rules. :lol who's policing?

when it comes to natural gas sales in Texas, where withholding supply may not even be a crime

many of the accusations of market manipulation in February's blackout have been aimed at natural gas suppliers.

the pattern of withholding was clear: before the storm hit, natural gas supply dropped and demand rose, leading to higher prices.

“We started seeing a doubling and tripling of the prices as we were getting to the end of the week just before the storm,”

At the height of the blackout, she said, natural gas was sometimes priced 15,000% higher than it was before the storm.

But even if natural gas suppliers did withhold supply, it's not clear whether that would be illegal in Texas,

The natural gas market "doesn't have any specific rules limiting people in their market activities,” she said.

“If your market doesn't have any rules against withholding, people will withhold because it's profitable.”

Many natural gas companies made millions during the blackout.

“Gas was such an important part of the failure and [gas suppliers] made such a profit,”

doesn't feel right, that the people who underperformed get rewarded.”

https://www.tpr.org/texas/2021-09-22/how-market-manipulation-might-have-worsened-the-texas-blackout

in 2021 shithole TX session, anybody talk about rules for the natural gas market? :lol

[Frenchfred]

How Market Manipulation Might Have Worsened The Texas Blackout

In Texas, the price of energy is based on supply and demand. (ie, non regulated)

Whether you’re talking about megawatts of electricity or cubic feet of natural gas, that means

energy usually becomes more expensive when there's less of it available.

Ed Hirs, an energy economist at the University of Houston, said that

presents obvious opportunities for gaming the system.

Higher prices mean energy sellers can make more money selling less energy.

“When producers and generators can combine and withhold power from the market, they can drive the price up,” he told KUT last spring (https://kutkutx.studio/the-disconnect-power-politics-and-the-texas-blackout/episode-2-the-electricity-game).

“They can do it either willfully, or they can do it with willful blindness” by allowing their supply chain to break down.

In the Texas electricity market, withholding supply to drive prices up is against the rules. :lol who's policing?

when it comes to natural gas sales in Texas, where withholding supply may not even be a crime

many of the accusations of market manipulation in February's blackout have been aimed at natural gas suppliers.

the pattern of withholding was clear: before the storm hit, natural gas supply dropped and demand rose, leading to higher prices.

“We started seeing a doubling and tripling of the prices as we were getting to the end of the week just before the storm,”

At the height of the blackout, she said, natural gas was sometimes priced 15,000% higher than it was before the storm.

But even if natural gas suppliers did withhold supply, it's not clear whether that would be illegal in Texas,

The natural gas market "doesn't have any specific rules limiting people in their market activities,” she said.

“If your market doesn't have any rules against withholding, people will withhold because it's profitable.”

Many natural gas companies made millions during the blackout.

“Gas was such an important part of the failure and [gas suppliers] made such a profit,”

doesn't feel right, that the people who underperformed get rewarded.”

https://www.tpr.org/texas/2021-09-22/how-market-manipulation-might-have-worsened-the-texas-blackout

in 2021 shithole TX session, anybody talk about rules for the natural gas market? :lol

Another perfect example of greedy capitalism. I have no problem with nationalizing energy. This is strategic for a country, same as water and other infrastructures that helps the country as a whole. In France, since they opened the market to the private sector, prices have been going up as EDF, public owned, has to sell its electricity at a lower price to the private actors for them to be able to sell it to the people since they don't have any nuclear reactors.

[pgardn]

Another perfect example of greedy capitalism. I have no problem with nationalizing energy. This is strategic for a country, same as water and other infrastructures that helps the country as a whole. In France, since they opened the market to the private sector, prices have been going up as EDF, public owned, has to sell its electricity at a lower price to the private actors for them to be able to sell it to the people since they don't have any nuclear reactors.

Energy and water are every bit as important as a military (that put as sweetly as possible, helps us keep trade open world wide.) Yet making the military fully private... thats not in any playbook except for a capitalist gone nuts. Texas has provided a really good example what can happen. And as a Texan hearing about, bbq sauce and picante as made in Texas, and NOT NY CITY! Yet we let a company in another State run our hydrocarbon energy.

dont mess with Texas... laughable... MIGHTY TEXAS. BUSINESS friendly to any OUTSIDERS.

But dont mess with us... fkn hypocrite red team in Texas.

[Winehole23]

I would add failure of basic governance/regulatory capture to the list

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[SpursforSix]

Energy and water are every bit as important as a military (that put as sweetly as possible, helps us keep trade open world wide.) Yet making the military fully private... thats not in any playbook except for a capitalist gone nuts. Texas has provided a really good example what can happen. And as a Texan hearing about, bbq sauce and picante as made in Texas, and NOT NY CITY! Yet we let a company in another State run our hydrocarbon energy.

dont mess with Texas... laughable... MIGHTY TEXAS. BUSINESS friendly to any OUTSIDERS.

But dont mess with us... fkn hypocrite red team in Texas.

I mean the reality is that there may be too many people for the amount of resources we have. At least at our current levels of usage. I can't imagine any politician in the near future bringing that up. But it's a reality we'll have to deal with at some point in time. Probably too late.

[RandomGuy]

yup. As noted in the 2011 report that the Republican government ignored.


2011 recommendations not implemented

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EfUAFljXsFU/UqCk5l8kPiI/AAAAAAAABbk/e1krJH-QhPM/w1200-h630-p-nu/shocked+shocked.png

[Winehole23]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EfUAFljXsFU/UqCk5l8kPiI/AAAAAAAABbk/e1krJH-QhPM/w1200-h630-p-nu/shocked+shocked.png...and the whole mess gets teed up again, with the Texas Lege again ignoring energy reform in favor of "emergency" anti-abortion, anti-voting, anti-trans and anti-CRT laws.


While not directly addressed in the report, FERC Commissioner Mark Christie also blamed Texas’ energy-only deregulated electricity market for grid failures.


“The biggest single problem is that in an energy-only market, no one has an obligation to serve [electricity],” he said.


Analysts have said that FERC may be able to require stronger power plant winterization in Texas by ordering those standards to be adopted by the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, a nonprofit group that enforces power generation industry standards.


But many of the proposals included in the inquiry may still amount to mere suggestions because of FERC’s limited authority in Texas.


“FERC has no jurisdiction,” University of Houston energy economist Ed Hirs says.


But that could change, Hirs said, if federal lawmakers wanted it to.


“Having our [Texas] grid as fragile as it is is a national security issue for the nation,” Hirs said. “At some point, the federal government would be right to essentially take over the management of the grid.”
https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-09-23/federal-regulators-blame-texas-energy-policies-for-severity-of-february-blackouts

[Winehole23]

if Texas won't fix the grid the federal government certainly should

[boutons_deux]

shithole Texas grid is not part of national grid for FreeDumb to deregulate the grid to enrich campaign donors, fuck it up, 1000s die, no accountability, punishment, on enrichment of the perpetrators, Texas pays $28B more for juice.

With AGW destabilizing the polar vortex more often, extreme Arctic cold down to TX will happen again, probably sooner rather than later.

[RandomGuy]

shithole Texas grid is not part of national grid for FreeDumb to deregulate the grid to enrich campaign donors, fuck it up, 1000s die, no accountability, punishment, on enrichment of the perpetrators, Texas pays $28B more for juice.

With AGW destabilizing the polar vortex more often, extreme Arctic cold down to TX will happen again, probably sooner rather than later.

Eyup. Right on all counts, and, as always, more correct than many here would accede to.

What does it say that the most cynical take on this whole thing seems to be closest to reality?

[boutons_deux]

Texas senators blast regulator for power grid winterization loophole lawmakers wrote into law :lol

The law says the state's natural gas system won't be required to prepare for extreme weather until 2022 at the earliest and allows companies to opt out of weatherization requirements.

In a committee hearing Tuesday, Texas senators were furious that

natural gas companies won’t have to better prepare their facilities for extreme weather before this winter and

rebuked the Texas Railroad Commission,

which regulates the state’s massive oil and gas industry, for not fixing the problem sooner.

“Wait a minute,” state Sen. Robert Nichols (https://www.texastribune.org/directory/robert-nichols/), R-Jacksonville, told Wei Wang, executive director of the Railroad Commission. “You haven’t done it yet?”

But the “loophole” that lawmakers spent the hearing condemning and

the slow timetable for winterizing the state power grid were part of legislation they approved during the regular legislative session in the spring. :lol

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/28/texas-power-grid-loophole/

maybe somebody passed a bill and didn't read it? still don't know what's in it? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

shithole Texas grid is not part of national grid for FreeDumb to deregulate the grid to enrich campaign donors, fuck it up, 1000s die, no accountability, punishment, on enrichment of the perpetrators, Texas pays $28B more for juice.

With AGW destabilizing the polar vortex more often, extreme Arctic cold down to TX will happen again, probably sooner rather than later.

that is interesting. AGW seems like a good thing if it makes Texas and Florida cooler and places like Minnesota and Wisconsin have milder winters.

[Winehole23]

During the blackout providers went offline because they failed to fill out paperwork declaring themselves critical infrastructure.

During the regular session of the Texas Lege, Republicans wrote them a loophole that allows them to skip winterization if they decline to to fill out the same form again.


Senate Bill 3 (https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=SB3), which Abbott signed into law, calls for creating a committee to map out the state’s energy infrastructure by September 2022, then gives the Railroad Commission 180 days to finalize its weatherization rules.


On Tuesday, lawmakers on the Senate Business and Commerce Committee were frustrated that the new law allows natural gas companies to opt out of weatherization requirements if they don’t voluntarily declare (https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/NR/htm/NR.81.htm#81.073) themselves to be “critical infrastructure” with the state.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/28/texas-power-grid-loophole/

[Trainwreck2100]

that is interesting. AGW seems like a good thing if it makes Texas and Florida cooler and places like Minnesota and Wisconsin have milder winters.


Such norms would mean almost total ecological collapse

[Winehole23]

"rate relief"


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAdPykXWUAICd_a?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

no-brainer, if it's not killed in committee it'll probably die in Calendars

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[Winehole23]

three special sessions, still no winterization mandate and the loophole allowing energy companies to get out of it for 150 bucks is still there

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[Winehole23]

Buc-ee's CEO "Beaver" Aplin is now on the ERCOT board

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHolYAxVoAAdsmQ.jpg

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[Winehole23]

Dems haven't held a statewide office in Texas in nearly thirty years, am I supposed to both sides this?

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[RandomGuy]

that is interesting. AGW seems like a good thing if it makes Texas and Florida cooler and places like Minnesota and Wisconsin have milder winters.

It won't. It has already increased the average number of 100 degree days in a year, and will get worse, as will droughts and fires. The cold snaps in teh winter will become more common as the jet stream destabilizes.

Poking bears has consequences.

[RandomGuy]

...and the whole mess gets teed up again, with the Texas Lege again ignoring energy reform in favor of "emergency" anti-abortion, anti-voting, anti-trans and anti-CRT laws.

https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-09-23/federal-regulators-blame-texas-energy-policies-for-severity-of-february-blackouts

It's almost as if not killing people was less important than grifting at tax/rate-payer expense.

[DMC]

It won't. It has already increased the average number of 100 degree days in a year, and will get worse, as will droughts and fires. The cold snaps in teh winter will become more common as the jet stream destabilizes.

Poking bears has consequences.

Relation to Ten Bears?

[RandomGuy]

Relation to Ten Bears?

Reference to unbridled emission of CO2, and the unintended consequences of forcing rapid climate change.

I have argued for years that we have no idea how bad it is going to be, and is therefore very inherently risky.

Do not poke sleeping bears with a stick.

[DMC]

https://townsquare.media/site/33/files/2020/04/Keep-America-Beautiful-Crying-Indian.jpg

[Winehole23]

Texas lege is all set to kick the can again

1384186386438262785Six months and three special legislative sessions later, Texas did bupkis.

(That's yiddish for goat droppings, "something of no worth")

[Winehole23]

(But they did saddle ratepayers with the costs, a very valuable consideration to energy providers.)

[Winehole23]

Republicans run against "bad government" and prove their bona fides by governing badly.

[DMC]

Republicans run against "bad government" and prove their bona fides by governing badly.

Cry more

[boutons_deux]

Republicans run against "bad government" and prove their bona fides by governing badly.

you got that backwards

Repugs don't care about actually governing.

"Government is the problem"

Disaffected people will agree with cutting taxes to starve "bad" government, so Repugs deliver bad govt For The People while spending the taxes on tax cuts and oligarcy's corporate welfare.

Repugs obstruct any government, esp when it's wonderful For The People, to deny any credit for good, beneficent govt to Dems

The deluded, ignorant suckers in Trash's 74M voters will fare much worse after Capitalist/Christian fascism dominates an Orban-ized USA.

[Winehole23]

Cry moreWater and electricity failing when we need them the most is an abysmal failure of governance and a legit reason to cry, tbh.

Texas didn't prepare for a foreseen contingency. Reliability is the second word in ERCOT, but Republicans have been too cozy with providers to make it happen. The results were deadly statewide -- ~700 people died due to energy companies' greed and Republican incompetence.

Then they pulled the energy companies out of the fire and laid the costs on ratepayers.

[Winehole23]

This hasn't been such a great thread for you, DMC.

Consistently cranky, out-of-touch takes and missed dunks.

[Winehole23]

lol DMC's meek tolerance of obvious Republican failure

"It's a historic winter storm, some issues expected."

[ChumpDumper]

DMC's just another Trumptard. They've all completely sold out.

[Winehole23]

DMC's just another Trumptard. They've all completely sold out.tries to hide his shit, but few are fooled.

[DMC]

Water and electricity failing when we need them the most is an abysmal failure of governance and a legit reason to cry, tbh.

Texas didn't prepare for a foreseen contingency. Reliability is the second word in ERCOT, but Republicans have been too cozy with providers to make it happen. The results were deadly statewide -- ~700 people died due to energy companies' greed and Republican incompetence.

Then they pulled the energy companies out of the fire and laid the costs on ratepayers.

Did you buy a generator and acquire the resources to survive should it happen again? Or did you instead just increase your online bitching about it?

Blah blah blah republicans blah blah blah

Republicans didn't tell you to be unprepared.

If you ever have a flat tire, are you going to open your laptop and complain online about it instead of having a spare?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol blaming the victim

:lol three days snowbound in single digit temperatures without power = flat tire

:lol :crySamsung should've bought a spare tire:cry

:lol DMC

[Winehole23]

Did you buy a generator and acquire the resources to survive should it happen again? Or did you instead just increase your online bitching about it?

Blah blah blah republicans blah blah blah

Republicans didn't tell you to be unprepared.

If you ever have a flat tire, are you going to open your laptop and complain online about it instead of having a spare?Another missed dunk.

That's the cranky, out of touch posting I was talking about.

Bog level libertarianism suits you. :tu

[Winehole23]

I notice you've been totally silent on the Texas lege's failure to winterize energy in four legislative sessions and its craven move to lay disaster energy costs to providers on ratepayers.

What's up with that? Are you allergic to criticizing the right?

[Winehole23]

How odd, a bunch of other states got hit by the same winter storm and had nowhere near the Texas level of failure.

Texas provides 30% of the US's energy but can't keep the lights on during a cold snap?

How often do Minnesota and the Dakotas have statewide outages for weeks -- and very nearly, a catastrophic total failure that would have kept electricity off line for months -- when the temperature reaches zero for a few days?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuX0owEXcAk7r3N?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

Clearly, individuals' failure to prepare is to blame for anything bad that happened to them.

[Winehole23]

You want to talk about it, DMC? I hear you're disappointed in the lack of topical conversation.

[Winehole23]

Did the Arctic blast hit Texas first?

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

DMC's just another Trumptard. They've all completely sold out.

Pretty much. At this point if you think Trump was anything other than a total shitbag... you are part of the cult.

[RandomGuy]

Did you buy a generator and acquire the resources to survive should it happen again? Or did you instead just increase your online bitching about it?

Blah blah blah republicans blah blah blah

Republicans didn't tell you to be unprepared.

If you ever have a flat tire, are you going to open your laptop and complain online about it instead of having a spare?

How Market Manipulation Might Have Worsened The Texas Blackout
https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-09-22/how-market-manipulation-might-have-worsened-the-texas-blackout


But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?

[DMC]

How Market Manipulation Might Have Worsened The Texas Blackout
https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-09-22/how-market-manipulation-might-have-worsened-the-texas-blackout


But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?

Translation: NO I did not buy a generator. I am hoping for the best but will bitch about how unprepared the state is if anything happens.

[DMC]

You want to talk about it, DMC? I hear you're disappointed in the lack of topical conversation.

Sure, Did you buy a generator? No? Then you also cannot keep the lights on.

[ChumpDumper]

Even if everyone has a generator, this is still a failure of the Texas government.

:lol DMC

[Winehole23]

Sure, Did you buy a generator? No? Then you also cannot keep the lights on.You seem to have lost the thread, I'm not the topic nor are purely personal disaster preparations.

What's your opinion about ERCOT's performance re: grid reliability and the Texas lege's response to the statewide outages?

Do you have a take on energy providers disaster cost getting shifted to ratepayers or the windfall pricing that was allowed to remain for weeks after the bad weather had passed?

[Winehole23]

Or do you prefer to keep avoiding the topic, to remain a dedicated complaint-complainer?

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Translation: NO I did not buy a generator. I am hoping for the best but will bitch about how unprepared the state is if anything happens.

Not really an answer, chickenshit.

But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?

[RandomGuy]

Or do you prefer to keep avoiding the topic, to remain a dedicated complaint-complainer?

:lol

Same kind blame the victim, but not the rapist mentality. Almost as if he pities the rapist more than the victim.

[Ef-man]

Or do you prefer to keep avoiding the topic, to remain a dedicated complaint-complainer?

:lol

Sort of like the average Poster B.

Wait one...

ECHO CHAMBER.

Bingo!


Imagine you've become so jaded on a forum that you never offer a take and spend all your time talking about other people instead. I mean like every post is about someone else, not the thread topic. Of course this is after you've quit several times including your resignation letter after all your friends left you to actually pursue their dreams while you rotted away trying to rekindle that lulz feeling. Just a hypothetical, probably didn't really happen here.

[DMC]

You seem to have lost the thread, I'm not the topic nor are purely personal disaster preparations.

What's your opinion about ERCOT's performance re: grid reliability and the Texas lege's response to the statewide outages?

Do you have a take on energy providers disaster cost getting shifted to ratepayers or the windfall pricing that was allowed to remain for weeks after the bad weather had passed?
So you didn't buy a generator. You must really trust ERCOT.

[DMC]

Not really an answer, chickenshit.

But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?

How, by bitching about them online? I can be prepared and still hold them just as accountable as you can. Watch...

FUCK ERCOT!!! THOSE SUMMABITCHES!!!

And I have a generator.

[Winehole23]

So you didn't buy a generator. You must really trust ERCOT.No take on the political topic.

Complaint-complainer it is.

[RandomGuy]

Not really an answer, chickenshit.

But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?



How, by bitching about them online? I can be prepared and still hold them just as accountable as you can. Watch...

FUCK ERCOT!!! THOSE SUMMABITCHES!!!

And I have a generator.

Are you still going to vote for them? I won't.

[pgardn]

Greg Abbott, Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton...

What a pitiful triumvirate...
The real joke that is Texas.

[Winehole23]

Fwiw, my car sufficed to charge devices and warm us up when we got too cold in the house during the snowpocolypse.

Fortunately we never lost gas, so we were able to boil water and heat skillets to keep the temperature tolerable in two rooms. Until we lost water, we were able to take hot showers too.

We had enough non perishable food and clean water to last awhile, didn't really miss the Jenny. Without gas service it would have been more rugged for sure, but both of our cars had plenty of gas and we had an impressive blanket fort.

[pgardn]

Fwiw, my car sufficed to charge devices and warm us up when we got too cold in the house during the snowpocolypse.

Fortunately we never lost gas, so we were able to boil water and heat skillets to keep the temperature tolerable in two rooms. Until we lost water, we were able to take hot showers too.

We had enough non perishable food and clean water to last awhile, didn't really miss the Jenny. Without gas service it would have been more rugged for sure, but both of our cars had plenty of gas and we had an impressive blanket fort.

We got by fine without a generator.

I gave my generator away last summer. Smart move...

Had no water or electricity for straight 5 days. Then off and on with the electricity.
We dont have gas to our house and used the car for charging like you.
Warming up and some cooking occurred through the fireplace.
Im lucky I cut a bunch of oak in my yard and have a considerable pile.
I was physically able to get oak into the fireplace, constantly remove ash, and go back and forth to neighbors in my truck and fill 5 gallon buckets for water.
More distant parts of our house got below freezing. Our pretty big living room with the fireplace got to 43 degrees at ground level.

If my wife and I were old it would have been much tougher.
Because we are younger and healthier it was a big hassle but not a life problem. But we had neighbors who needed help.
Also I must say the dog provided a good deal of heat as he moved from my wifes sleeping bag to mine on the couches next to the fire.
Some people I know in Austin had a horrible time in apartments.

I would have loved for governor Abbott to have been our guest so I could have wheeled him into a snowbank.

[Dirks_Finale]

Yeah thankfully we still had those evil fossil fuels saving countless lives.


Fwiw, my car sufficed to charge devices and warm us up when we got too cold in the house during the snowpocolypse.

Fortunately we never lost gas, so we were able to boil water and heat skillets to keep the temperature tolerable in two rooms. Until we lost water, we were able to take hot showers too.

We had enough non perishable food and clean water to last awhile, didn't really miss the Jenny. Without gas service it would have been more rugged for sure, but both of our cars had plenty of gas and we had an impressive blanket fort.

[boutons_deux]

Coal-pocalypse

'More Than Your Mortgage':

Coal Fuels Skyrocketing Electric Cost In West Virginia

"Coal has become more expensive than renewables or natural gas,

the prices of which have fallen rapidly — and in West Virginia, the ratepayers are footing the bill,"

"With three of the state's major coal-fired power plants in need of hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of mandatory upgrades,

costs for ratepayers like Chase will continue to go up.

Coal may be a dying industry in the U.S.,

but Joe Manchin, a key Democratic swing vote in the Senate,

isn't interested in hastening its demise."

neighboring states "that were once heavily reliant on coal are moving away from it," citing Pennsylvania and Ohio as two examples of states that have

greatly reduced their reliance on coal and become more reliant on natural gas and nuclear power.

"These plants, even if they're kept open, are going to be operating at such a low level there will be far fewer jobs and far less coal consumed than it is now,"

https://www.nationalmemo.com/west-virginia-coal

Manchin make $500K / year from the coal industry. Manchin's personal wealth means no help for his voters.

[DMC]

Not really an answer, chickenshit.

But Republicans sure made it easy for the people paying them to fuck everybody through gaming the natgas and electricity supply.

Why won't you hold them accountable for that?




Are you still going to vote for them? I won't.

Still going to? Nice narrative you have there, Smedley.

If I was as hard up as you appear to be for some Dem control, I'd not be living in a historically red state, you chickenshit motherfucker :lol

[Winehole23]

^^^ "Love it or Leave It"

(DMC Bingo jpg.)

[Winehole23]

(Streak of never passing a negative remark about "the right" remains intact.)

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

1453387261530329090Because Texas, practically alone among the 50 US states, can't be relied on to keep the lights on during a cold snap, we're stocking up on propane space heaters and firewood. We already have a camp stove and jerry cans for water. Much as I hate storing gasoline at my house, it might be a good idea in case we somehow get caught short of fuel for our cars.

Y'all?

[ElNono]

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"Texas oil & gas is needed right now."

What is he waiting for?

[boutons_deux]

Scary Halloween costume

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/251662692_256669399834871_7923546862305242680_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tjZtHv7s3WAAX_R4bdg&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=2bcaf517cb0b20309e4a68664c73b84f&oe=61A72864

[RandomGuy]

Scary Halloween costume

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/251662692_256669399834871_7923546862305242680_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tjZtHv7s3WAAX_R4bdg&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=2bcaf517cb0b20309e4a68664c73b84f&oe=61A72864

I cannot wait to vote for this guy again. heh. Judge Becerra is pretty sharp.

[Ef-man]

Everyone in Texas should get vaccinated, with winter coming, as there is no guarantee that ventilators will have the electricity they need to operate.

[boutons_deux]

Everyone in Texas should get vaccinated, with winter coming, as there is no guarantee that ventilators will have the electricity they need to operate.

I'm all for vaccination, but (Dem) urban areas are mostly vaccinated. And probably the children will be, too by Feb.

It's the Repug, failed, toxic rural, culture that isn't vaccinated.

41 TX rural hospitals are close to failure. Were they in the Abbutt's legislative priorities?

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r1728441150993456610&th=17cdc2c7ab0c325a&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_-vaJv4u5yoVkJn_GSMQ2iTcHIMjYeajtIW1khv7ZtnG727Qajpy hf0pPqMdhgLzFuwv_dZ4JyNYDFVNl4-bpJKjHJ_2s_G_eBYRCb_8ofE-bbYi_fXo9vwNo&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kvgu1wyl0

[Thread]

I'm all for vaccination, but (Dem) urban areas are mostly vaccinated. And probably the children will be, too by Feb.

It's the Repug, failed, toxic rural, culture that isn't vaccinated.

41 TX rural hospitals are close to failure. Were they in the Abbutt's legislative priorities?

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r1728441150993456610&th=17cdc2c7ab0c325a&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ_-vaJv4u5yoVkJn_GSMQ2iTcHIMjYeajtIW1khv7ZtnG727Qajpy hf0pPqMdhgLzFuwv_dZ4JyNYDFVNl4-bpJKjHJ_2s_G_eBYRCb_8ofE-bbYi_fXo9vwNo&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kvgu1wyl0

Boiled down:::

President Trump: 400k dead AmericansPERIOD
MF Biden: 356k dead Americans. & counting, son.

[Winehole23]

FERC/NERC release final report. Texas will ignore it, and this shit will happen all over again in a few years.


Investigators determined that most of the power outages could have been avoided if power plants and wind turbines had been better protected against the cold and ice (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/At-least-111-people-died-in-Texas-during-winter-16054041.php). In fact, the report found protecting key equipment such as sensing lines, transmitters at traditional power plants, along with wind turbine blades, would have reduced the number of megawatts of power lost during the storm by a whopping 67 percent.





Eighty-one percent of freeze-related generating unit outages occurred at temperatures above the units' stated ambient design temperature.
Eighty-seven percent of unplanned generation outages were due to fuel issues related to natural gas.
Natural gas fuel supply issues were caused by natural gas production declines.





https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Federal-report-warns-Texas-power-outages-16628257.php

https://www.ferc.gov/media/february-2021-cold-weather-outages-texas-and-south-central-united-states-ferc-nerc-and

[Winehole23]

Gas providers couldn't afford disaster pricing, so the Texas lege is letting them take the shortfall from the Texans left short of power during winter storm Uri.

By all rights, windfall profits should be clawed back from the producers who let us down.

Texas gas bills may increase, companies allowed to make up $3.4B winter storm losses (https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-gas-bills-may-increase-companies-allowed-to-make-up-3-4b-winter-storm-losses/)

[Winehole23]

energy companies own the regulators


FERC’s report reveals how railroad commissioners refused to hold Texas natural gas companies to even minimal resiliency standards. For example, 43 percent of natural gas production declines were caused by freezing temperatures and weather because operators did not insulate the well equipment properly.


Almost 90 percent of outages were due to a lack of natural gas availability to powerplants. More than 80 percent of the facilities failed at temperatures higher than the stated minimum operating specifications.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/Tomlinson-Feds-find-true-cause-of-the-February-16632313.php

[boutons_deux]

Feds find true cause of the February blackouts, Texas officials deflect blame

After my column pointing out UT’s findings (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/Tomlinson-Texas-oil-and-gas-regulator-needs-to-16317325.php)and the Big Lie about the cause of the blackouts,

Christian wrote an op-ed railing against me by name (https://www.mrt.com/opinion/article/Opinion-Political-correctness-will-not-fix-16351173.php)while defending gas suppliers.

One need only check his campaign finance records to understand why.

More than two-thirds of the campaign donations to the sitting commissioners have come from oil and gas allies.

All three commissioners trade oil and gas stocks, even while they make rulings about complaints against those companies,

“Oil and gas money accounted for 69 percent of all the campaign money raised by Commissioners Wayne Christian and Craddick,” the watchdog group reported, based on public records.

Christian’s six-year term is up next year, and he’s running for reelection. This is not a good time for him to bite the hand that feeds him.

https://www.expressnews.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/Tomlinson-Feds-find-true-cause-of-the-February-16632313.php

[boutons_deux]

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[Winehole23]

Btw, Bouton, did you happen to see the two posts before your two posts? Interested in what you think.

[Winehole23]

Abbott lied. We're still fucked if it happens again.

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[Winehole23]

Doug Lewin parses the ERCOT report, which he describes as a "political document":

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[Winehole23]

The calculations for severe risk this winter show that it wouldn't take a storm as bad as the one in February, when hundreds of people died, to take the grid offline.https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/20/texas-grid-ercot-winter-estimates/

[Winehole23]

For the headline

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[Winehole23]

E.g., CC, DMC and SnakeBoy in this thread.

Mindlessly parroting the WSJ and state regulators captured by the oil and gas biz.




Nine months ago, Wayne Christian was standing in his dark house, wearing three layers of coats to keep warm, one of millions of Texans who lost power from a ferocious winter storm. On the morning of Feb. 17, Christian, the chairman of the Railroad Commission of Texas, which regulates the state’s natural gas industry, phoned into the agency’s emergency Zoom meeting (http://www.adminmonitor.com/tx/rrc/open_meeting/20210217/) to test drive a statement that could spin the crisis in favor of oil and gas.


“The takeaway from this storm should not be the future of fossil fuels, but the dangers of subsidizing and mandating intermittent, unreliable forms of energy at the expense of using our resources to make the grid more resilient to extreme weather events,” Christian said.


It took less than 24 hours for the statement to become gospel — and for wind and solar, which played bit parts in the winter storm tragedy, to be cast as arch villains.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Resign-Craddick-and-Christian-16653772.php

[Winehole23]

Did y'all hear about the Amazon Web Services outage on the east coast the day before last?

Possible implications for the next snowpocolypse.


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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGGWIYlXoAYT_L_?format=jpg&name=large

1468619898486239242

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGGWIYlXoAYT_L_?format=jpg&name=large

1468619898486239242

:lol may just swipe that for my avatar...

[Winehole23]

The Texas snowpocolypse is reportedly related to current inflation and supply issues with cardboard and plastic packaging.



Complicating the situation is last winter’s deep freeze that knocked several power plants in Texas offline (https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/even-power-disasters-are-bigger-in-texas-heres-why/) for days. With no power, refineries were unable to make plastics used in shipping materials. That, in turn, led manufacturers and shippers to rely more on other products—like cardboard.

“The types of materials that would be key and the raw materials that go into them—polyethylenes, polyurethanes—we’ve seen the cost of those raw materials surging to the tune of 50 percent year over year,” Vipul Shah, the chief product officer of Next Trucking, a logistics technology startup, told NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/shippers-are-having-their-own-supply-chain-issues-leading-battle-n1282104). “The story for packaging is the same.”


With shipping behemoths like Amazon able to secure supplies by virtue of their size and massive bankrolls, the rest of the world is facing higher prices and short supplies.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/cardboard-shortages-deal-another-blow-to-strained-supply-chains/

[Winehole23]

New England grid operator warns of rolling blackouts during extended cold snaps. The main issue seems to be supply/demand rather than technical reliability.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/12/14/nation/rolling-blackouts-possible-new-england-this-winter-regional-grid-warns/

[DMC]

Fucking Texas grid again now fucking up New England.

[Winehole23]

Fucking Texas grid again now fucking up New England.are you ok?

[RandomGuy]

Fucking Texas grid again now fucking up New England.

:cry stop criticizing Republicans for killing people :cry :cry

Cry harder.

The party you support is thoroughly incompetent, run by the religious idiots you despise, and just as corrupt.

Deal.

[Winehole23]

By finishing touches, do they mean padding the bill?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGyStdjWYAMsJqr?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/Documents/52373_268_1172004.PDF

[DMC]

:cry stop criticizing Republicans for killing people :cry :cry

Cry harder.

The party you support is thoroughly incompetent, run by the religious idiots you despise, and just as corrupt.

Deal.
So the East coast power issues are because of Republicans?

[Winehole23]

So the East coast power issues are because of Republicans?What's your gloss, profe?

[Winehole23]

Is setting realistic expectations beforehand based on supply/demand irresponsible in your view?

Wish we'd had advance warning from Greg Abbott and Ercot, tbh. That way we could have made preparations for the gross failure of service.

[Winehole23]

In fucking Texas, the energy leader in the USA :lmao

[Winehole23]

The supply is much closer here, why did it fail?

[Winehole23]

And why are ratepayers bailing out the suppliers for disaster pricing? :lol

[Winehole23]

Private losses got socialized in reddest Texas, tbh

[HemisfairArena]

Private losses got socialized in reddest Texas, tbh

Prove it. Again spewing lies out of your ass.

[Winehole23]

Regulatory capture in GOP government. The last Dem statewide regime was a generation ago here. And most of them were Republicans at heart. We know that because they switched parties. Rick Perry was Al Gore's campaign chair in Texas in 1988.

[Winehole23]

Prove it. Again spewing lies out of your ass.read through the thread. it's all there.

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289387&page=56&p=10586259&viewfull=1#post10586259

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289387&page=55&p=10548601&viewfull=1#post10548601

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289387&page=57&p=10609318&viewfull=1#post10609318

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289387&page=56&p=10550446&viewfull=1#post10550446

[Winehole23]

Texas ratepayers will fade the disaster costs to suppliers for the next 20-30 years. You're the dunce, Hemisfair.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAdPykXWUAICd_a?format=png&name=900x900

[HemisfairArena]

Texas ratepayers will fade the disaster costs to suppliers for the next 20-30 years. You're the dunce, Hemisfair.

Lets bet on that, WineHo. You are just to easy.