Snowpocolypse: rolling blackouts instituted

[Winehole23]

Lets bet on that, WineHo. You are just to easy.it's a damn fact.

damn, you're dumb.

[HemisfairArena]

it's a damn fact.

damn, you're dumb.

LMAO. You still havent proven shit.

[Winehole23]

LMAO. You still havent proven shit.read and learn, or stand pat on idiocy. I don't care.

[Winehole23]

CC, SnakeBoy and DMC too

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[boutons_deux]

Despite Reforms, the Texas Electricity Grid Is Still Vulnerable to Cold


Gov. Greg Abbott has promised the lights will stay on this winter. But many of the problems that led to the power system failure in February remain.

Donna Boatright lives alone now in the modest one-story house where her husband, Benny, froze to death.

The depth of the catastrophe, which left 4.5 million customers without power and caused as much as $130 billion in economic damages (https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2021/oct/winter-storm-impact.php),

But 10 months later, the state’s energy grid remains vulnerable, and the ability to keep the lights on is a central political issue in the state.

many of the problems that pushed the Texas electrical grid to the brink of a total collapse still remain,

according to interviews with two dozen industry experts, elected leaders and current and former state officials.

Last month, ERCOT conducted a less-than-reassuring assessment (https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2021/11/19/SARA_Winter2021-22.pdf) looking at the strength of the grid going into the winter.

The state’s grid would not be able to keep up with demand even under winter conditions less severe than what happened in February, the assessment found.

it did not include data from last winter, and it did not consider what would happen if future winter storms were worse than last February’s.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/us/texas-electricity-grid-winter.html

As always, Texas is piled high in corrupt B U L L S H I T, typical one-party state where there is no political accountability

[RandomGuy]

LMAO. You still havent proven shit.

:lol

whose troll are you?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1478070944899944453/wr0ClHZW?format=jpg&name=medium

[Winehole23]

Texas’s natural gas industry had almost a year to prepare for last weekend’s cold blast and avoid another loss of production. But yet again, instruments froze, output plunged and companies spewed a miasma of pollutants into the atmosphere in a bid to keep operations stable.

Though Saturday’s cold front wasn’t as severe as the February storm that killed hundreds and knocked out power to much of the state, nearly 1 billion cubic feet of gas was burned or wasted due to weather-related shutdowns, according to filings with the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality. At the same time, production plunged to the lowest level since the last freeze, BloombergNEF data shows.

That has environmental implications. Natural gas is composed mostly of methane, a potent greenhouse gas. And the roughly dozen gas facilities that reported problems with the cold also emitted a combined 85 tons of sulfur dioxide and 11 tons of carbon monoxide, among other pollutants, according to a Bloomberg review of environmental filings.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/plunging-gas-supplies-show-texas-still-hasn-t-prepared-for-cold

[Winehole23]

Most of the natural gas released due to operating issues this weekend came from plants owned by Pioneer Natural Resources Co (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/PXD:US). Other facilities that reported operating issues and related emissions were owned by Occidental Petroleum Corp. (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/OXY:US), Targa Resources Corp. (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/TRGP:US) and DCP Midstream (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DCP:US). None of the companies immediately replied to requests for comment.

[Winehole23]

a new state law only requires “critical” infrastructure to get weatherized - but for a $150 application fee, energy providers can opt out.

“If they invoke the language in SB3 that says I'm not prepared to operate during a weather emergency, then they're not designated as a critical for the purpose that they do not receive electricity during a weather emergency,” Wang explained.
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/trouble-shooters/loophole-would-allow-energy-providers-to-opt-out-of-weatherization-for-150

[boutons_deux]

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/trouble-shooters/loophole-would-allow-energy-providers-to-opt-out-of-weatherization-for-150

the electricity billionaires corrupt shitbag Repugs towards the suffering and death of Texans

Gas sellers made $11 billion while millions of Texans were without power in February

https://fortune.com/2021/07/09/gas-sellers-made-11-billion-texas-winter-blackout/

In years after electricity dereg, Texans paid $28B more for electricity that regulated electricity.

[Winehole23]

According to estimates from Bloomberg (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-pollution-soars-cold-snap-210943881.html) and other industry analysis (https://twitter.com/TXCompPower/status/1478098233134100484), Texas gas production dropped by around 20% as the cold front arrived last weekend. It was the largest decrease in supply since February’s winter storm. The reason, according to documents filed with the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, includes equipment breaking down in the freezing temperatures.https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2022-01-05/texas-gas-supply-plummeted-during-last-weekends-cold-snap-that-spells-trouble-for-the-grid

[Winehole23]

Fucking shit man.Don't worry, they promise to start working on solutions later this year.

[DMC]

https://www.generac.com/generaccorporate/media/library/content/all-products/generators/home-generators/guardian-series/22kw-7042/guardian-24kw_ts_1.jpg?ext=.jpg

[DMC]

Let's all buy generators. Fucking dimwit. :lmao

:lol you cannot use one on your apartment

[Winehole23]

:lol you cannot use one on your apartmentSo much for diy solutions to systemic problems, tbh.

If there were potholes on the highway you'd be urging us to fix them ourselves.

Yet more dogshit libertarianism.

[RandomGuy]

Don't worry, they promise to start working on solutions later this year.

Working on solutions on the thorny problem of how to fleece and kill customers and get away with it year after year. That can be difficult.

[Winehole23]

How regulators screwed Texans and stuffed the pockets of sellers.

Freeze coming this week, BTW.


Monday, February 15. In the hours after the blackouts, ERCOT tried to shore up electricity reserves to stabilize the grid. The computer system that runs the market, though, interpreted this as an oversupply (in the middle of blackouts!) and dropped prices. When ERCOT and the PUC realized what was happening, officials decided to bypass the market and, on Monday evening, manually set prices at the maximum of $9,000 per megawatt hour. (By comparison, the average hourly price in 2020 was $25.73.) For fear that restarting the market and letting prices fluctuate in the midst of blackouts would lead to instability, officials kept prices at that artificially inflated level until Friday.


As a result, Texans spent an exorbitant amount on electricity during a week in which most of them couldn’t get much electricity. For the entirety of 2020, Texans paid $9.8 billion to keep the juice flowing. On February 16 alone, they spent roughly $10.3 billion. Costs for the month of February totaled more than $50 billion.


The bill for this pricing disaster is coming due. The Legislature approved the issuance of what will likely end up being about $5 to $6 billion in bonds to pay back some of these costs. That form of borrowing creates an obligation of about $200 for every adult and child in Texas.


Of the 2,500 participants in the ERCOT market—power plant owners, electricity marketers, electric cooperatives, creditors, and traders—many are privately held and don’t disclose their profits and losses. But some of the big shareholder-owned electricity generators were stuck with major losses because, while electricity prices were astronomical, natural gas prices were even higher.


As a result, anyone who had natural gas to sell came away a winner. Large Dallas-based pipeline owner Energy Transfer posted a net profit of $3.29 billion for the first three months of 2021; it had never posted even a $1 billion quarterly margin before. The company chalked up its profits to preparation—it had forked over the money to winterize parts of its facilities, so they remained up and running during the storm. Kinder Morgan made $1.41 billion, its best quarter ever. British oil giant BP, which supplies more gas in the U.S. than any other company, was coy. “It was a very exceptional quarter in gas trading,” CEO Bernard Looney told Bloomberg, which pointed to an estimate suggesting that the firm reaped $1 billion during that stretch. Gas producer Comstock Resources president Roland Burns put it much more plainly, saying it was “like hitting the jackpot.”
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-electric-grid-failure-warm-up/

[Winehole23]

thanks for the heads up, Kinder-Morgan

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[Winehole23]

ERCOT is already shivering


As new ERCOT board member John Swainson told PUC Chair Peter Lake Tuesday, "We’re trying to ensure our generators can provide power, but if no one’s providing gas to our power plants, that’s a weak link."

[Winehole23]

Should we be reassured by the reassurance? Instance of moral luck, it would seem.

If all turns out well -- as it probably will -- the reassurance will have been reassuring.


https://www.chron.com/politics/article/Texas-power-grid-freeze-ERCOT-generators-16787736.php

[boutons_deux]

Electrical grid really improved? who believes ERCOT? why would they NOT lie about reliability?

100s dead, nobody punished.

The URI primary problem was absence of gas delivery, due the gas companies not weatherizing as warned10 years earlier,

BUT

... the gas companies banked $10B+ "disaster capital" from the disaster they caused.

CPS Energy raising rates 3.48%+ for the indefinite future to pay for their buying disaster-priced gas.

Capitalism for Capitalists-only FUCKS America yet again.

[Winehole23]

thanks for the heads up, Kinder-Morgan

1483854290259226634wonder what other producers are doing. hopefully it won't be cold enough for long enough to freeze off their wellheads this time.

[boutons_deux]

wonder what other producers are doing. hopefully it won't be cold enough for long enough to freeze off their wellheads this time.

probably none of the TX gas network has been weatherized.

Gas people made $11B during URI, why kill the golden goose?

shittiest possible product for highest possible price, it's the Capitalists' way

[DMC]

So much for diy solutions to systemic problems, tbh.

If there were potholes on the highway you'd be urging us to fix them ourselves.

Yet more dogshit libertarianism.

If you were home and your power went out again for a few days, I'm sure the female in the house would greatly admire your resistance to toxic masculinity fueled desire to be industrious by actually prepping for the possibility, as you instead use the last bit of your backup battery (assuming you'd even go that far) to post on ST about the injustices of ERCOT and the power grid failures complete with graphs and necro'd threads from 2005.

[Winehole23]

If you were home and your power went out again for a few days, I'm sure the female in the house would greatly admire your resistance to toxic masculinity fueled desire to be industrious by actually prepping for the possibility, as you instead use the last bit of your backup battery (assuming you'd even go that far) to post on ST about the injustices of ERCOT and the power grid failures complete with graphs and necro'd threads from 2005.we're prepared for next time, thanks for your concern.

lol still having no topical take and just bitching about me.

[DarrinS]

If you were home and your power went out again for a few days, I'm sure the female in the house would greatly admire your resistance to toxic masculinity fueled desire to be industrious by actually prepping for the possibility, as you instead use the last bit of your backup battery (assuming you'd even go that far) to post on ST about the injustices of ERCOT and the power grid failures complete with graphs and necro'd threads from 2005.


:lmao

[Winehole23]

:lmaoSay Darrin, what do you think of energy suppliers screwing the pooch, regulators enforcing disaster pricing well after the disaster passed, and the Texas lege letting providers off the hook by foisting the costs on ratepayers for the next 20-30 years? Snowpocolypse is so last year, but the related public swindle will take decades.

There's a political angle to this that you and DMC keep ducking.


https://i.gifer.com/g2vI.gif

[Winehole23]

But go ahead, talk about me some more, makes y'all look really smart.

[DMC]

we're prepared for next time, thanks for your concern.

lol still having no topical take and just bitching about me.

Sure you are :lol

Spare laptop battery?

Being self sufficient and having a beef with a provider are not mutually exclusive. You act like they are. You're not going to fix ERCOT, no one here is, but we can at least find solutions and offer to others suggestions to help them out. This is what friends do. Bitching about it might make you feel better, but when the lights go out it won't.

[Winehole23]

Sure you are :lol

Spare laptop battery?

Being self sufficient and having a beef with a provider are not mutually exclusive. You act like they are. You're not going to fix ERCOT, no one here is, but we can at least find solutions and offer to others suggestions to help them out. This is what friends do. Bitching about it might make you feel better, but when the lights go out it won't.We already had a camp stove, extra water and jerry cans for more water, also a food cache, but we've added this:



https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71FA1xDkxHL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

Bitching about captured pols and regulators won't turn the lights back on, but that's where the political blame belongs, no matter how hard you try to shift it back on people who already paid for/voted for public goods and reliability.

lol pretending that a politics bulletin board is a really all about neighborly solicitude and helping buddies out.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

that's so you, DMC

so kind and neighborly and so concerned for the welfare of others in adversity.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

Also, lol @ the perennial gripe that bulletin board posting doesn't solve problems.

Who ever said it did?

[Winehole23]

Energy Partners is threatening to cut off the gas 400,000 Vistra customers depend on if Vistra doesn't cough up $21.6M in disputed fees from last year's winter storm.

Vistra has already paid Energy Transfer $600M. Energy Transfer made $2.4B last year.



“Respondents’ threat to terminate service in the middle of winter is illegal and grossly irresponsible and should be prohibited by this Commission,” the filing says.

According to the filing, Luminant spent approximately $1.5 billion for natural gas during the February winter storm, twice its planned natural gas cost to fuel its entire Texas fleet for a full year. The filing says Luminant paid Energy Transfer more than $600 million for natural gas during the winter storm.

Luminant’s position is that the $21.6 million in fees are illegal and would not withstand regulatory scrutiny.

The power company’s contract for natural gas ended in November, according to the filing, and since then, the company has been buying natural gas without a contract since then.

Energy Transfer reported last year publicly that it had made $2.4 billion “from the storm for 2021.”

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/natural-gas-giant-threatens-to-cut-fuel-for-power-plants-multimillion-dollar-winter-storm-fee-dispute/287-2c12cc89-b19d-4f83-ae16-a2c2c59f0493

[Winehole23]

To be fair to Kinder Morgan, Texas regulators set disaster pricing and kept it in place well after the disaster passed, guaranteeing the windfall.

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[Winehole23]

2nd time this month. safe to assume freeze offs, Bloomsberg says

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[Winehole23]

Texas reportedly lacks real time information on gas production


More recently, when a Jan. 2-3 cold blast knocked out some production, the agency wasn’t able to quantify the scope of the outages — eventually relying on commercial, third-party data to extrapolate a much-lower decline than even the industry later reported.

Citing analysis from S&P Global Inc., the commission said in a post-storm statement that the output drop “accounts for 2% of Texas’ daily production.”

That clashed with separate figures from IHS Market Ltd. and BloombergNEF that showed a production decline of at least 7%, the biggest dip since the February disaster. Fortunately, this month’s chill was short-lived, the grid remained well supplied and Texas avoided any sort of widespread blackouts.

Gas production rebounded to normal as soon as temperatures moderated, a fact that the Railroad Commission cited to support its conclusion that “there was seemingly no apparent significant impact on the market or energy production.https://fosterenergyreport.com/news/natural-gas/texas-power-supplies-depend-on-natural-gas-flows-no-one-tracks/

[SnakeBoy]

We're going to dip below freezing for an evening and WH is hoping for another disaster :lol

[Winehole23]

The power stations aren't the problem, natural gas production is the weak link.

Abbott and ERCOT are lying to us about energy reliability in Texas.

[Winehole23]

We're going to dip below freezing for an evening and WH is hoping for another disaster :lolI'm hoping against it and shaking my fist at regulators and legislators who shrugged it off.

I don't think it will be cold enough for long enough to create a catastrophic failure this time, but the writing seems to be on the wall about the lack of winterization at the level of natural gas production, which Texas overwhelmingly depends upon.

[DarrinS]

I'm hoping against it and shaking my fist at regulators and legislators who shrugged it off.


That'll show em. :lmao

[DMC]

We're going to dip below freezing for an evening and WH is hoping for another disaster :lol

https://img.joomcdn.net/65a70143af72cc6a335a89ac43945db23e30114b_original. jpeg

He's prepped

[DMC]

That'll show em. :lmao

That's not why his fist is shaking :lol

[pgardn]

Oh the problem is solved only because last year was a one off...

Darrin, Snake and DMC, our energy gurus.

Dont read what he actually wrote.

[DMC]

Oh the problem is solved only because last year was a one off...

Darrin, Snake and DMC, our energy gurus.

Dont read what he actually wrote.

:cry

[DarrinS]

Oh the problem is solved only because last year was a one off...

Darrin, Snake and DMC, our energy gurus.

Dont read what he actually wrote.


My generator still works.

[Winehole23]

That'll show em. :lmaofor Snake Boy's benefit. I guess he sees no cause for concern,

[Winehole23]

That's not why his fist is shaking :lolMoar fantasies, you can't help yourself.

[SnakeBoy]

for Snake Boy's benefit. I guess he sees no cause for concern,

Did you survive the chilly night?

[BackHome]

I'm hoping against it and shaking my fist at regulators and legislators who shrugged it off.

I don't think it will be cold enough for long enough to create a catastrophic failure this time, but the writing seems to be on the wall about the lack of winterization at the level of natural gas production, which Texas overwhelmingly depends upon.

To be fair that was like a once in a hundred year storm, I am pretty sure we won’t have to worry about having another one in our lifetime. On the other hand Hot Summers have me more worried as Texas Utilities are going to have to start building more plants and these plants are not cheap 500 to 700 million and Wind and Solar are not going to handle peak demand if people really want to go Green then we invest in Nuclear I just read that Finland is building a New Nuclear plant

[Winehole23]

To be fair that was like a once in a hundred year storm, I am pretty sure we won’t have to worry about having another one in our lifetime.That's not the way probability works, and there's a baseline assumption that may not be correct, that underlying weather patterns are stable and predictable. The next 100 year storm doesn't know when the previous one happened, nor where it hit.

A weakened polar jet stream might have been the culprit last year.

https://climatechange.ucdavis.edu/climate/definitions/what-is-the-polar-vortex

[DMC]

Did you survive the chilly night?

Stands With Shaking Fist kept warm via the fist shaking.

[DMC]

You just fucking admitted there is a fucking problem you dumb fuck. :lmao :lmao

Nicotine fit in progress.

[SnakeBoy]

Stands With Shaking Fist kept warm via the fist shaking.

:lol

[BackHome]

That's not the way probability works, and there's a baseline assumption that may not be correct, that underlying weather patterns are stable and predictable. The next 100 year storm doesn't know when the previous one happened, nor where it hit.

A weakened polar jet stream might have been the culprit last year.

https://climatechange.ucdavis.edu/climate/definitions/what-is-the-polar-vortex

It’s all about the odds with your same assumption we should be ready for a Category 5 Hurricane to hit us directly which would knock out power for weeks not days depending on the wind. There is only so much you can do just look at New Orleans. It comes down to cost are you willing to pay extra for your bills for something that may happen or might not happen and sometimes even with all the planning Mother Nature is still going to get ya.

As far as Gas being the weak link I do agree with you a lot of them have not done nor will do anything to be Winter ready as they are also playing the odds and also the cost

[baseline bum]

To be fair that was like a once in a hundred year storm, I am pretty sure we won’t have to worry about having another one in our lifetime. On the other hand Hot Summers have me more worried as Texas Utilities are going to have to start building more plants and these plants are not cheap 500 to 700 million and Wind and Solar are not going to handle peak demand if people really want to go Green then we invest in Nuclear I just read that Finland is building a New Nuclear plant

We had rolling blackouts and price spikes in 2011 when it got cold for like one day here.

[TimDunkem]

We had rolling blackouts and price spikes in 2011 when it got cold for like one day here.
A bunch of people lost power the other day when it was windy. We don't actually need significant weather events for our lights to go out here in TX. :lol

[DMC]

A bunch of people lost power the other day when it was windy. We don't actually need significant weather events for our lights to go out here in TX. :lol

All the more reason to have a backup system.

[DMC]

dabom is one giddy fucking tweaker.

[BackHome]

A bunch of people lost power the other day when it was windy. We don't actually need significant weather events for our lights to go out here in TX. :lol

Umm yeah electric runs through electric lines which high winds impact when they blow trees and limbs break during wind or ice storms. Unless you live in a city where all there electric lines are buried like Las Vegas you will have issue. But it could be worse you could be in Cali where your electric providers burns down forest and subdivisions because of electric sparks and has rolling blackouts and yeah they doing huge rate increases to pay for putting line in ground

[baseline bum]

Umm yeah electric runs through electric lines which high winds impact when they blow trees and limbs break during wind or ice storms. Unless you live in a city where all there electric lines are buried like Las Vegas you will have issue. But it could be worse you could be in Cali where your electric providers burns down forest and subdivisions because of electric sparks and has rolling blackouts and yeah they doing huge rate increases to pay for putting line in ground

Or be like Texas where you get huge rate increases for nothing whatsoever in exchange because it got cold a few days in a row.

[BackHome]

Just chalk it up to inflation your pretty much paying a shit more for everything; eggs, gas, cars, etc.

[ChumpDumper]

Just chalk it up to inflation your pretty much paying a shit more for everything; eggs, gas, cars, etc.

Do you chalk up the freezing deaths to inflation too?

[Ef-man]

I can tell fathands doesn't know shit about generators. :lol


dabom is one giddy fucking tweaker.

Fat-hands hates being called fat-hands.

He cannot help but lash out with stupid shit (like this post) when he is butt-hurt.

Expect more “you do not troll me, I troll you” shit from him. :lol

[DMC]

Fat-hands hates being called fat-hands.

He cannot help but lash out with stupid shit (like this post) when he is butt-hurt.

Expect more “you do not troll me, I troll you” shit from him. :lol

:lol "likes" my post accidentally then melts down.

[Ef-man]

:lol "likes" my post accidentally then melts down.

:lol

Proves my point.

“You do not troll me, I troll you.”

[boutons_deux]

Or how about the government do their fucking job? :lol :lol

In privatized, de-regulated TX, it's the gas/electric Capitalists who own the govt and don't do their fucking jobs, more Capital gained, and no punishment, only $10B gained, when 100s die.

[baseline bum]

Just chalk it up to inflation your pretty much paying a shit more for everything; eggs, gas, cars, etc.

Nonsense, the rate increases were announced a year ago.

[boutons_deux]

ERCOT let gas price rise from $26 to $9000,

AND let it stay there for a couple days after Uri was gone.

Gas companies' (self-created) "disaster Capitalism" won them about $11B in less than one week due to their own competent greed and incompetent operations.

[BackHome]

Agree with you in that I don’t mind people making money but it should be like when we see Gas spikes at gas stations the Gas stations just can’t raise prices 5 to 10 higher then the markup is. A few Gas companies charged astronomical prices that are way out of line hopefully lawsuits that have been filled will prevail

[ChumpDumper]

Agree with you in that I don’t mind people making money but it should be like when we see Gas spikes at gas stations the Gas stations just can’t raise prices 5 to 10 higher then the markup is. A few Gas companies charged astronomical prices that are way out of line hopefully lawsuits that have been filled will prevailThe system worked exactly as it was designed to work. If you're surprised by that you should have paid more attention when it was set up.

[Trainwreck2100]

The system worked exactly as it was designed to work. If you're surprised by that you should have paid more attention when it was set up.

The governor signed an order saying they could do that for fuck sake

[baseline bum]

So we have forecasts of low 20s Thursday and Friday night. Wonder if we're due for more rolling blackouts thanks to Perry and Abbott ensuring our electric grid is shit.

[HemisfairArena]

So we have forecasts of low 20s Thursday and Friday night. Wonder if we're due for more rolling blackouts thanks to Perry and Abbott ensuring our electric grid is shit.

Democrats are in a constant brain blackout so no worries for you,,,,

[baseline bum]

Democrats are in a constant brain blackout so no worries for you,,,,

shhh... adults are talking

[HemisfairArena]

shhh... adults are talking

Prove it,,,

[Trainwreck2100]

Prove it,,,

he;s been here for 19 years, can you math?

[Trainwreck2100]

So we have forecasts of low 20s Thursday and Friday night. Wonder if we're due for more rolling blackouts thanks to Perry and Abbott ensuring our electric grid is shit.

hopefully they do if they're need it, my big fear is that they won't when they need to because of negative press

[HemisfairArena]

he;s been here for 19 years, can you math?

he's been here 19 years?,,,,lmao.....now youre just fuckin' with me I hope. What a pathetic life,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Ive been off and on here for probably 10 years and have less than 4k posts,,,,but yet im the loser.....yeah okay,,,,,lmao

[baseline bum]

Ive been off and on here for probably 10 years and have less than 4k posts,,,,but yet im the loser.....yeah okay,,,,,lmao

I said shhh... men are talking

[HemisfairArena]

I said shhh... men are talking

coming up on your 20 year anniversary here,,,,congrats, big guy.

[baseline bum]

coming up on your 20 year anniversary here,,,,congrats, big guy.

Go cry more about Christmas Story. Also learn to count.

[HemisfairArena]

Go cry more about Christmas Story. Also learn to count.

Post more,,,your life is fulfilling,,,,

[baseline bum]

Post more,,,your life is fulfilling,,,,

You're posting too dummy. Also learn to count.

[HemisfairArena]

You're posting too dummy. Also learn to count.

You the man,,,,

[baseline bum]

You the man,,,,

Can't even count to 19.

[Trainwreck2100]

Ive been off and on here for probably 10 years and have less than 4k posts,,,,but yet im the loser.....yeah okay,,,,,lmao

message boards were social media before social media, how long has your old ass been on facebook?

[HemisfairArena]

Here comes your boyfriend(Tranny), Bummer,,,to defend your honor,,,,

[baseline bum]

Here comes your boyfriend(Tranny), Bummer,,,to defend your honor,,,,

You have been really bitter here ever since ElNono tore your balloon knot in that Christmas Story thread son.

[HemisfairArena]

You have been really bitter here ever since ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) tore your balloon knot in that Christmas Story thread son.

Sure, bummer,,,

[ElNono]

:lol what did grandpa boomer soil his adult diapers about now?

[Winehole23]

Texas Emergency Management and the PUC urge Texans to prepare NOW for wintry conditions

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[Winehole23]

not as cold, not as long lasting, probably won't cover the whole state with a wintry mix like last year's storm, but could be a gut check.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKZtDVwXMAEYHi3?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Thread]

not as cold, not as long lasting, probably won't cover the whole state with a wintry mix like last year's storm, but could be a gut check.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKZtDVwXMAEYHi3?format=jpg&name=900x900

Uncross your fingers, toes and eyes for the cryin' out loud!!!

[Winehole23]

Blast from the past.

(Texas did eventually help energy companies pass billions of dollars in overcharges along to ratepayers.)



Texas officials said they do not plan to reverse an estimated $16 billion in electricity overcharges (https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-monitor-says-power-grid-overcharged-16-billion-during-storm-2021-3) incurred during a deep freeze that roiled the state's power grids and left millions without power last month (https://apnews.com/article/houston-weather-storms-texas-dallas-cf41d1c32181aaf6dc57e9740cd51cc0).

In a meeting on Friday, the Public Utility Commission of Texas (PUCOT) said it will be too challenging to fix and re-price the charges due to a variety of external factors. Speaking before the committee, chairman Arthur C. D'Andrea said that due to a number of hedge funds and private transactions tangled up in the fees, it will be "impossible to unscramble this sort of egg."

https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-will-not-reverse-16-billion-in-electricity-overcharges-2021-3

[Winehole23]

Former PUC chair Arthur D'Andrea said rescinding the overcharges would put cities and co-ops out of business, but we know for a fact the overcharges put Texas's largest electric co-op into bankruptcy.


A judge overseeing the bankruptcy of the largest electric co-op in Texas on Wednesday shut down certain arguments that the state's electric grid operator was looking to make in a legal brawl with the co-op over a nearly $2 billion bill stemming from a historic winter storm last year.



U.S. Bankruptcy Judge David Jones in Houston issued his ruling ahead of a February trial over the $1.9 billion claim the Electric Reliability Council of Texas filed in Brazos Electric Power Cooperative Inc's Chapter 11 case. The judge held that some of the arguments ERCOT tried to raise to defend its claim weren't relevant to the immediate issue.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/brazos-bankruptcy-judge-narrows-ercot-defense-2-bln-bill-2022-01-13/

[pgardn]

All the more reason to have a backup system.

How about fix the fkn problem as a "backup system" and then ALSO have a generator etc... ?
You can go camping in Alaska on your own time and feel good about it.

[Winehole23]

Pucker factor

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[Winehole23]

Stinking bastard. Do we all in texas really need to fucking sweat like this?

Abbott's going to take credit for nothing happening during a hardly out of the ordinary for February cold snap.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKd4FgWXwAE68Tb?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ef-man]

DP

[Ef-man]

When a brawl at the Golden Corral breaks out over running out of steaks, expect a long winter.

Only in Murica!

https://twitter.com/Raw_News1st/status/1487240467804741632

[Trainwreck2100]

Stinking bastard. Do we all in texas really need to fucking sweat like this?
Our punishment for letting him be in power

[elbamba1]

A lot of big people like their Golden Coral.

[Ef-man]

A lot of big people like their Golden Coral.

Wise words. Just never get between big people and their steaks. Especially in winter, when they are hungriest.

[Ef-man]

Snowmageddon part 2 coming your way.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/220201101551-weather-ice-accumulation-exlarge-169.jpg

Shit will get real cold (https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/weather/winter-storm-ice-snow-midwest-south-northeast/index.html)

[elbamba1]

For real, all politics aside, stay safe out there people. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad but be careful on the roads.

[CNN]

Weather Alert

It could get cold in Texas. Evacuations are currently voluntary only. Snowflakes should check out our website for the latest weather.

[SnakeBoy]

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[DarrinS]

You can tell he just checked ticket prices to Cancun. Fucking prick. :lmao

That was the joke. Congrats

[pgardn]

Weather Alert

It could get cold in Texas. Evacuations are currently voluntary only. Snowflakes should check out our website for the latest weather.

We are sending the homeless snowflakes to your residence.

[DMC]

How about fix the fkn problem as a "backup system" and then ALSO have a generator etc... ?
You can go camping in Alaska on your own time and feel good about it.

Get off your fucking ass then and fix it. Meanwhile those of us who aren't full of shit can have a backup system.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/Honey_Luxe/status/1488785791291731968

[Nathan89]

Cult left is about to blame politicians for bad weather again.

[Ef-man]

Leaders lead but assholes make false promises and let people freeze to death.

https://twitter.com/MeganKelleyHall/status/1489010035518812164

[Winehole23]

Cult left is about to blame politicians for bad weather again.There's more than bad weather at play here. Texas was the only state that had a catastrophic power failure during a cold blast that hit most of the country east of the Rockies a year ago.

Texas also stuck ratepayers with billions in "accidental" overcharges, then wrote a loophole for the gas patch to avoid winterization. That wasn't bad weather either.

[pgardn]

Get off your fucking ass then and fix it. Meanwhile those of us who aren't full of shit can have a backup system.

The legless lizard you voted for…
Its his fckn job to get his “job friendly” ass out of his seat and get the facilities up to standard.
Stop making excuses.

[GAustex]

Hope Lake Travis WL adds some feet

[DarrinS]

All warm at my house.

[Winehole23]

Cult left is about to blame politicians for bad weather again.odd that only Texas had statewide outages, eh?



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuX0owEXcAk7r3N?format=jpg&name=medium

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's not going to be anything close to last year's edition. Then again, old man winter still has time left

[Winehole23]

It's not going to be anything close to last year's edition.clearly, a far a less intense storm this time around. shorter in duration too, the precipitation came in waves last year.

[Winehole23]

Texas with the early lead in power outages

https://poweroutage.us/

[HemisfairArena]

If you are a conspiracy theorist,,, it would be something if Texas suffers another power outage as Abbott is leading Beto big time in the polls. You would instantly think democrats had a hand in it and if the power outage did happen there is no doubt Abbott would fail quickly in the polls and Beto would have a good shot at beating him.

[Winehole23]

If you are a conspiracy theorist,,, it would be something if Texas suffers another power outage as Abbott is leading Beto big time in the polls. You would instantly think democrats had a hand in it and if the power outage did happen there is no doubt Abbott would fail quickly in the polls and Beto would have a good shot at beating him.Democrats haven't held a statewide office in Texas since 1994, how would they pull it off?

[HemisfairArena]

Democrats haven't held a statewide office in Texas since 1994, how would they pull it off?

Always wondered why democrats never ran an Ann Richards part 2. She was a democrat female version of Donald Trump and won the Texas Governorship. She was a brash, confident, mud slinger and name caller. When Bush ran against her,,,,she would call him names like Trump did against his challengers.

[ChumpDumper]

Cult left is about to blame politicians for bad weather again.

You don't know anything about the Texas electrical grid.

[ChumpDumper]

If you are a conspiracy theorist,,, it would be something if Texas suffers another power outage as Abbott is leading Beto big time in the polls. You would instantly think democrats had a hand in it and if the power outage did happen there is no doubt Abbott would fail quickly in the polls and Beto would have a good shot at beating him.You're not a smart man.

[HemisfairArena]

You're not a smart man.

Prove it,,,Chump Sucker all you do hurl insults and accusations on here but you can never back anything you say up. So prove I'm not a smart man....lets see it.

[Nathan89]

"Between 2008 and 2017, California was the leading U.S. state for power outages with almost 4,300 blackouts in the ten-year period"

I'm sure you've been dragging dems every step of the way. The truth is you are just trying to score political points. Dems delusion that they'll handle it better can be shelved right next to their promise to "shut down the virus".

[Blake]

All warm at my house.

Muhhhhhhhhhh








































Zip code

[Blake]

If you are a conspiracy theorist,,, it would be something if Texas suffers another power outage as Abbott is leading Beto big time in the polls. You would instantly think democrats had a hand in it and if the power outage did happen there is no doubt Abbott would fail quickly in the polls and Beto would have a good shot at beating him.

They're trying to make Cruz run away again

[Winehole23]

Texas is about half of outages reported nationwide at 9am. Worse than any other state by miles.



https://poweroutage.us/area/regions

[Winehole23]

"Between 2008 and 2017, California was the leading U.S. state for power outages with almost 4,300 blackouts in the ten-year period"California Dems have been letting PG&E get away with underinvestment, causing fires with antiquated equipment and shifting the costs to ratepayers -- similar to the GOP in Texas. One party state governments lead to coziness with big donors like energy.

Dems deserve the flames in CA, GOP deserves the flames in Texas.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277336&p=9666075&viewfull=1#post9666075

[pgardn]

All warm at my house.

Your world is warming. Wow. During a cold streak; must be a global thing...

[ChumpDumper]

Prove it,,,Chump Sucker all you do hurl insults and accusations on here but you can never back anything you say up. So prove I'm not a smart man....lets see it.

You just want me to quote you again?

[ChumpDumper]

"Between 2008 and 2017, California was the leading U.S. state for power outages with almost 4,300 blackouts in the ten-year period"

I'm sure you've been dragging dems every step of the way. The truth is you are just trying to score political points. Dems delusion that they'll handle it better can be shelved right next to their promise to "shut down the virus".

Now explain why Texas had to shut down the electricity last year.

[Trill Clinton]

stay woke

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[Winehole23]

Texas is about half of outages reported nationwide at 9am. Worse than any other state by miles.



https://poweroutage.us/area/regionsburying power lines would be a reliability upgrade, but it might temporarily effect profitability. someone somewhere must have netted out the initial cost vs. the recoupment from maintenance costs.

[DarrinS]

Sagging tree branch (from ice) was leaning on my main power line. Got the pole saw out and took care of it. Problem solved.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If you are a conspiracy theorist,,, it would be something if Texas suffers another power outage as Abbott is leading Beto big time in the polls. You would instantly think democrats had a hand in it and if the power outage did happen there is no doubt Abbott would fail quickly in the polls and Beto would have a good shot at beating him.
"So you want reliable power or guns? You cannot have both."

[Nathan89]

Sagging tree branch (from ice) was leaning on my main power line. Got the pole saw out and took care of it. Problem solved.

If you didn't prevent the tree from knocking out the power that would have been evidence of the politicians failing.

[DMC]

Sagging tree branch (from ice) was leaning on my main power line. Got the pole saw out and took care of it. Problem solved.

Sure, be Rambo with a chainsaw, how's that going to fix the grid issues and ERCOT? "muh zipcode"...

When are you fucking cisgendered males going to learn that doing shit yourself isn't the answer? The answer is posting online, tweeting, memes.. all that.

[DMC]

"So you want reliable power or guns? You cannot have both."

Guns are reliable power.

[DMC]

Your world is warming. Wow. During a cold streak; must be a global thing...

Pure tard

[DMC]

The legless lizard you voted for…
Its his fckn job to get his “job friendly” ass out of his seat and get the facilities up to standard.
Stop making excuses.

I don't vote in state or local elections.

Stop being a whiny bitch and grab a broom.

[DarrinS]

Sure, be Rambo with a chainsaw, how's that going to fix the grid issues and ERCOT? "muh zipcode"...

When are you fucking cisgendered males going to learn that doing shit yourself isn't the answer? The answer is posting online, tweeting, memes.. all that.


:lol

[Winehole23]

When are you fucking cisgendered males going to learn that doing shit yourself isn't the answer? The answer is posting online, tweeting, memes.. all that.where did you get the idea that anyone thinks bulletin board posting solves real world problems?

if it's not you throwing your voice and pretending someone else said something, it's a weird preoccupation.

[Winehole23]

Dynamic pricing


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKsJu0VXwAMNjk0?format=jpg&name=medium

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin, DMC and the rest of the Trumptards are cynical and hopeless. Someone hurt them badly.

[Winehole23]

there seems to be little chance of catastrophic power outages this time, but there is clear evidence the underlying problem -- unreliable natural gas production -- hasn't been fixed.

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKsGX2KWYAAapYM?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

The Texas Railroad Commission lies about its own data. They must be pretty confident nothing will happen to frontrun an ice storm with such obviously detectable bullshit.


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[Winehole23]

Tennessee now tops, Texas in second well ahead of others


https://poweroutage.us/

[Adam Lambert]

Tennessee now tops, Texas in second well ahead of others

https://poweroutage.us/

Probably should be based on % of homes, not raw totals.

[Winehole23]

Probably should be based on % of homes, not raw totals.number of households affected works for me, but that makes sense too :tu

[DMC]

there seems to be little chance of catastrophic power outages this time, but there is clear evidence the underlying problem -- unreliable natural gas production -- hasn't been fixed.

1489295803336298506

Don't lose hope, a semi could run into a power station and kill the power for hundreds of homes. Keep your chin up.

[Winehole23]

^^^ disdains topics, gossips about other posters full time

[DMC]

where did you get the idea that anyone thinks bulletin board posting solves real world problems?

if it's not you throwing your voice and pretending someone else said something, it's a weird preoccupation.

From you?

[Winehole23]

From you?because I'm a frequent poster?

there are a few missing steps in your syllogism.

[ElNono]

ya'll stay warm... especially the boomers...

[SnakeBoy]

Texas is about half of outages reported nationwide at 9am. Worse than any other state by miles.



https://poweroutage.us/area/regions

"Ercot Grid Status: Normal"

Great job Governor Abbot!

but a power line is down in a rural county :cry

[Winehole23]

"Ercot Grid Status: Normal"

Great job Governor Abbot!

but a power line is down in a rural county :cryeh, tomorrow morning is the real test.

regardless of what happens or doesn't happen, this cold snap has revealed that gas producers haven't winterized for shit, which was the main problem last year..

Gov. Abbott's pronunciamentos are makeup on a pig.

[pgardn]

It does not matter at this point from a real power producing point of view.
ERCOT, thus Abbott, have not fixed the problem.

And these are NOT huge catastrophes on the energy production level in other states.
Downed power lines from ice and such... thats gonna happen in places that dont send lines underground.
But the actual problem at the facilities that both produce and use gas is ridiculous.

No matter how much the red team tries to deflect.
"Take pride in your state, TEXAS, hell yes"

[pgardn]

And I see winehole and I have double posted for each other without knowing.

[Winehole23]

OH NOES! A POWER LINE IS DOWN IN A RURAL COUNTY!

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[Winehole23]

I mean, how hard is it to add insulation and inject glycol to prevent wet mix from freezing?

[ChumpDumper]

OH NOES! A POWER LINE IS DOWN IN A RURAL COUNTY!

1489319857250263045Is that the 2% that isn't winterized?

[Ef-man]

OH NOES! A POWER LINE IS DOWN IN A RURAL COUNTY!

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Did they opt out and not winterize per hotwheels’ law?

[Winehole23]

Is that the 2% that isn't winterized?I blame wind and solar.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKsFpyWXwAEyP-f?format=jpg&name=medium

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[SpursforSix]

I mean, how hard is it to add insulation and inject glycol to prevent wet mix from freezing?

Bend over, I’ll fucking show you.

[SnakeBoy]

Did all of you have enough food and water to make it through the day this time?

[ChumpDumper]

You can't afford gas so being stuck at home is a blessing.

[DMC]

Did all of you have enough food and water to make it through the day this time?

The day isn't over. Don't jinx it!!!!!111!!1

[Winehole23]

The day isn't over. Don't jinx it!!!!!111!!1nothing's going to happen today. in all likelihood nothing's going to happen tomorrow besides the usual. you're getting the tenor totally wrong, as usual. you've disregarded the topic and trend of posting in favor of ventriloquizing.

like an honest broker does..

[DMC]

nothing's going to happen today. in all likelihood nothing's going to happen tomorrow besides the usual. you're getting the tenor totally wrong, as usual. you've disregarded the topic and trend of posting in favor of ventriloquizing.

like an honest broker does..

It's called sarcasm, dopey.

[Winehole23]

It's called sarcasm, dopey.sure, Jan

[DarrinS]

Did all of you have enough food and water to make it through the day this time?

Yes, but need to milk this disaster for another year.

[Winehole23]

Yes, but need to milk this disaster for another year.It's understandable you want it to stay buried and semen shield for corrupt GOP government, but we're hardly done paying off last year's disaster surcharges (and won't be for another 20-30 years.) Thanks, Texas lege.

Besides, the bad weather keeps coming back around every year. Maybe next year Texas will get its shit together.

[ChumpDumper]

You still haven't stopped milking Antifa and the black guys who beat you up years later.

[GAustex]

Lights stay on good for Abbott

Boil water notice in Austin cause of cold
Lol Adler

[pgardn]

The disaster casual outfit worked for Abbott.
Wow he showed he was on top of THIS disaster.

Last year when it mattered lets uhhh....
Switch the subject to the border invasion.
Legless, gutless prick...

And yeah, same problems still exist. But we get told they were ready. With the outfits anyway...

[SnakeBoy]

Austin libs boiling their water lol

Shithole city lol

Progressive dystopian hellhole lol

[Winehole23]

Lights stay on good for Abbott

Boil water notice in Austin cause of cold
Lol AdlerCofAustin didn't say it had anything to do with weather, where did you hear about that?

[GAustex]

CofAustin didn't say it had anything to do with weather, where did you hear about that?
Absolutely weather driven. Neighbor across the street is a 35 year experienced water and sewer consultant who works for COA mentioned cold weather is the culprit

[ChumpDumper]

Absolutely weather driven. Neighbor across the street is a 35 year experienced water and sewer consultant who works for COA mentioned cold weather is the culpritHow?

[GAustex]

Dripping faucets
Increase flow
City was unprepared

[CosmicCowboy]

According to the statesman it was because Ulrich treatment plant had a "process error" and they had to shut it down. Didnt say anything about the cold.

[GAustex]

It had to do with increased flow which was due to cold
Is my understanding

[Winehole23]

Three boil water notices in two years

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[Winehole23]

Whoopsie!


While gasoline prices continue to be a troubling political factor for the Biden Administration, the recent inclement weather in refinery country on the U.S. Gulf Coast has caused two major refineries to shut down.


While Gas Buddy indicated that gasoline prices would start to ease somewhat this week, Marathon Petroleum’s 593,000 bpd Galveston Bay refinery is shut down for the foreseeable future, thanks to a citywide power outage during freezing temperatures. Marathon has not given any indication on when the refinery—the second largest in the United States—might restart.


Valero’s (NYSE: VLO) Texas City 225,000 bpd refinery has also shut down. Like Marathon, Valero has not given any indication when the refinery will be back up. Reports also came in on Monday that Valero’s Houston refinery was flaring—a safety event used to manage excess material

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Refinery-Outages-Are-Another-Headache-For-Biden.html

[boutons_deux]

Former Texas power chief says Greg Abbott directed him to charge customers max amount during winter outages

Bill Magness, the former CEO of the Electric Reliabilty Council of Texas (ERCOT), testified in court

on Wednesday that millions of Texans received sky-high energy bills during last winter's deep freeze based on the instructions of Gov. Greg Abbott.

under oath that " when

he ordered power prices to stay at the maximum price cap for days on end during last year’s frigid winter storm and blackout,

running up billions of dollars in bills for power companies, he was following the direction" of the Texas governor.

https://www.rawstory.com/greg-abbott-ercot/

[Winehole23]

tight grid conditions this weekend

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[Winehole23]

Texas guaranteed windfall profits (from artificially prolonged disaster pricing) for producers and passed the cost to utilities -- the ones that weren't bankrupted, anyway -- onto the ratepayers.

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[Winehole23]

We've been officially warned.


Officials with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) issued a power outage warning on Tuesday in preparation for record-breaking temperatures this weekend.


According to ERCOT, the high energy demand could put some strain on the power grid, but officials said they will re-evaluate conditions tomorrow.https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/ercot-issues-power-outage-warning-for-record-high-weekend-temperatures/2957633/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DFWBrand

[Winehole23]

California looking at generation shortfall this year. At least they're not lying about it.




(Reuters) - California energy officials on Friday issued a sober forecast for the state's electrical grid, saying it lacks sufficient capacity to keep the lights on this summer and beyond if heatwaves, wildfires or other extreme events take their toll.

The update from leaders from three state agencies and the office of Governor Gavin Newsom comes in response to a string of challenges with the ambitious transition away from fossil fuels, including rolling blackouts during a summer heat wave in 2020.

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California has among the most aggressive climate change policies in the world, including a goal of producing all of its electricity from carbon-free sources by 2045.

In an online briefing with reporters, the officials forecast a potential shortfall of 1,700 megawatts this year, a number that could go as high as 5,000 MW if the grid is taxed by multiple challenges that reduce available power while sending demand soaring, state officials said during an online briefing with reporters.

Supply gaps along those lines could leave between 1 million and 4 million people without power. Outages will only happen under extreme conditions, officials cautioned, and will depend in part on the success of conservation measures.

In 2025, the state will still have a capacity shortfall of about 1,800 MW, according to officials from the California Energy Commission, Public Utilities Commission, California Independent System Operator and Newsom's office. They also projected annual electricity rate increases of between 4% and 9% between now and 2025.https://news.yahoo.com/california-says-needs-more-power-194133420.html

[Winehole23]

Two weeks straight of record-breaking temperatures have been forecast statewide.

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[Winehole23]

with energy producers so tight with the Texas GOP, reliability and transmission capacity aren't priorities, but locking in windfall pricing during peak demand appears to be.

remember when Greg Abbott ordered disaster pricing and kept it in effect for weeks after the weather let up and the crisis passed?

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[boutons_deux]

Ercot says six power plants went offline Friday too much heat

[Winehole23]

The R in ERCOT stands for reliability.

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[Winehole23]

No threat of blackouts, nevertheless, ERCOT has asked Texans to conserve energy.


After six power plants went down unexpectedly Friday — and with hot weather expected across Texas this weekend — the Electric Reliability Council of Texas on Friday evening is asking consumers to conserve electricity through Sunday.

Texans are asked to set their thermostats to 78 degrees or above between 3 p.m. and 8 p.m. this weekend and to avoid using large appliances at home during those same times.https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/13/texas-power-conservation-heat/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Does anyone know what the deal is with MISO?

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[Winehole23]

NERC report detail blackouts risks for this summer: extreme temperatures, drought, wildfires, hydroelectric shortages, cyberattacks, transmission tech for renewable energy sources.


Highlighting the most serious regional threats, the report said:

The Midcontinent Independent System Operator (MISO), grid manager and energy market operator in the central Midwest, “faces a capacity shortfall in its North and Central areas, resulting in high risk of energy emergencies during peak summer conditions.”

“More extreme temperatures, higher generation outages, or low wind conditions expose the MISO North and Central areas to higher risk of temporary operator-initiated load shedding to maintain system reliability,” the report said of the MISO region, which runs from Canada’s Manitoba province to Louisiana.

“An elevated risk of energy emergencies persists” across the West this summer “as dry hydrological conditions threaten the availability of hydroelectric energy for transfer.” Assuming that nearly 3,400 megawatts of new resources are available as scheduled this summer, California should be able to meet peak power demands this summer, the report said. But a repeat of the heat dome that scorched the entire West in 2019 could threaten the availability of imported power that the state depends on, causing energy emergencies.

In Texas, a “combination of extreme peak demand, low wind, and high outage rates from thermal generators could require system operators to use emergency procedures, up to and including temporary manual load shedding.” Delays in completing new transmission lines now underway “may contribute to localized reliability concerns.”
https://www.eenews.net/articles/grid-monitor-warns-of-u-s-blackouts-in-sobering-report/

[Winehole23]

huh


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTQZygSWIAAb3Ql?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

The US is experiencing more outages globally than any other industrialized nation,” she said. “About 70% of our grid is nearing end of life.”https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/a-hot-deadly-summer-is-coming-with-frequent-blackouts/ar-AAXCPbJ

[Winehole23]

The world is grappling with “more than two years of global supply chain distress caused by the pandemic, the spreading fallout from the war in Ukraine and extreme weather caused by climate change,” said Henning Gloystein, an analyst at Eurasia Group. “The main risk is that if we see major blackouts on top of all the aforementioned problems this year, that could trigger some form of humanitarian crisis in terms of food and energy shortages on a scale not seen in decades.”

[RandomGuy]

NERC report detail blackouts risks for this summer: extreme temperatures, drought, wildfires, hydroelectric shortages, cyberattacks, transmission tech for renewable energy sources.

https://www.eenews.net/articles/grid-monitor-warns-of-u-s-blackouts-in-sobering-report/

Time to pull the trigger on solar panels backed with batteries, tbh.

Savign up a bit of cash for a down payment on an EV at the same time.

EV will make the panels waaaay more cost efficient. it will be nice not to hve to worry about the cost of gas.

[RandomGuy]

he US is experiencing more outages globally than any other industrialized nation,” she said. “About 70% of our grid is nearing end of life.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/a-hot-deadly-summer-is-coming-with-frequent-blackouts/ar-AAXCPbJ

Guessing they mean at least in part the coal plants that are rapidly aging out. Sucks to be coal country.

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/15/28-of-u-s-coal-power-plants-plan-to-retire-by-2035/

The average operating coal-fired generating unit in the United States is 45 years old. The units that have reported plans to retire are not necessarily the oldest ones operating; some units built in the 1980s and 1990s are also scheduled to retire. When they retire, the retiring units will have approximately 50 years of service, based on their planned retirement dates.

Planned retirement dates for these plants were reported to us by power plant owners and operators. Planned retirement dates within the next four to five years are considered relatively firm; retirements further in the future

[Winehole23]

Maybe the involvement of Tesla will dissipate some of the kneejerk animus against solar.

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[RandomGuy]

Maybe the involvement of Tesla will dissipate some of the kneejerk animus against solar.

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"Take enough small storage or solar or reductions in demand and add them up and you can reach levels that add up to large power plants."

I would point out that the LED bulbs that use less than 10 percent of incandescent have collectively made a huge difference in the amount of power needed. The conversion to LED light has saved us from having to build entire power plants.

Solar + EV offers the opportunity to finally be truly energy independent, and not have to be suck-ups to the Saudi's.

[Winehole23]

tl;dr

The Texas grid is prone to failure because it was designed that way.



A little over 20 years ago, Texas deregulated its energy market. And Texas is not unique in that; deregulation obviously has been kind of the story of American policy for decades. And it came to the electricity market in Texas, as it did to other states. But in Texas, it took a form that we do not see anywhere else. Essentially, they created a competitive market where supply and demand are the rule of the day. There’s no one power company that you go to, like there is in a lot of the country. You get these competing electric providers. But the real thing that makes Texas unique is that it is what they call an “energy-only market.”

In other parts of the country, a power plant, also known as a generator, gets paid to be around in case they’re needed. But in Texas, in an attempt to create this kind of perfect competitive market, they said, “No, you’re only going to make money by selling electricity at the time that it is needed, at its time of use.” So our generators only make money selling power on the market.

When you take that approach and you couple it with the law of supply and demand, what you’re doing is you’re creating a system that is run on scarcity. The less electricity that is available, the more expensive it will be. So in our market, we created a system where power plant operators make their margins by relying on moments of extreme scarcity that will drive up the price of electricity. And this will be their big payday. These moments may only come a handful of times a year but this is where you make your money.

Proponents of this market said that it incentivizes efficiency. Like, you cut out all the fat, and you don’t have any electricity generators that are getting paid to just sit around. They would claim that that creates an efficient market. The reality, though, is that when you need extra power on hand, you have less of it availablehttps://www.vox.com/recode/23144696/texas-grid-energy-market-blackouts-heatwave-winter-storm

[Winehole23]

DFW Oncor outages as of 4pm yesterday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVFI_lKX0AEn1CF?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

The record-setting heat is putting additional stress on our equipment. We have crews fanned out across our service area. They are working to make repairs as quickly and safely as possible. We acknowledge that any type of outage causes frustration, and inconveniences to our customers, especially in this heat. We are grateful to for their patience.https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/electricity-customers-report-long-outages-in-north-texas/2990653/

[Winehole23]

"the grid is fine, some transformers blew up"

[baseline bum]

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/electricity-customers-report-long-outages-in-north-texas/2990653/

LOL frustration and inconvenience, in this heat and humidity it'll be deaths outages cause.

[Winehole23]

No problem, we're prepared for the heat, right?

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[baseline bum]

No problem, we're prepared for the heat, right?

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Already 16 100+ days in San Antonio by June 16th and 12 more forecast this month, with the other 2 days forecast at 99.

[baseline bum]

No problem, we're prepared for the heat, right?

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What blows me away in this report is last year had the mildest summer I can ever remember here, but it was still the 53rd hottest out of 127 on record for Texas.

[baseline bum]

Wouldn't surprise me if 2022 beats 2011 though. IIRC 2011 had a really nasty June and then a similar July but August actually seemed kind of cool, doubt we'll get rescued by an August cooldown this year.

[Winehole23]

Texas getting reliably screwed.

RUC = "reliability unit commitments"


ERCOT now procures 6,500 MW (https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2021/06/30/ERCOT_Addtional_Operational_Reserves_06302021.pptx ) of non-spinning reserve generation in the day ahead market, and up to an additional 1,000 MW more on days with high forecast demand or uncertainty. The reserve was raised from approximately 4,500 MW after Winter Storm Uri.

Bivens, representatives from ERCOT, and Public Utilities Commission of Texas (PUCT) Chairman Peter Lake testified (https://www.senate.texas.gov/av-archive.php) to the Texas Senate Committee on Business & Commerce on efforts to reform wholesale markets. The “conservative” approach has meant expanded use of emergency resources, and bringing more resources online sooner.
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/a-conservative-approach-to-texas-grid-operations-is-raising-costs-for-con/620312/


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[Winehole23]

lax energy efficiency regulations and the lack of incentives thereto mean Texans use more and pay more

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVspOkNWIAAnV6h?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Reliability sucked before Uri

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[Winehole23]

I've heard of this, this is the first news bit I've seen.



Unlike solar flares that can cause short-duration radio blackouts (https://interestingengineering.com/double-solar-flare-temporary-blackouts), CMEs can cause massive outages since the magnetic forces in the eruption interact with the Earth's own magnetic field.


A geomagnetic storm caused by a CME can cause entire electrical grids to collapse and interfere with radio communication for days. Even navigational systems can be majorly affected after high-energy CMEs. Fortunately, these storms occur rarely.


Solar flares travel rapidly and if directed towards the Earth, within minutes. A CME, though can take days before it hits the Earth. So, the eruption noticed on the solar surface on Sunday could reach Earth by June 28th or June 29th, astronomers told Newsweek.


With the SDO offline, astronomers now need to look at other coronograph-capable instruments to determine with the eruption is headed towards the Earth or not. Factors such as the positioning of these instruments could significantly impact the calculations done with these instruments.


The only solace that astronomers now have is that even if the CME was directed toward Earth, it might not be powerful enough to cause widespread outrages.
https://interestingengineering.com/a-huge-solar-eruption

[baseline bum]

Looks like we broke another record today. ERCOT's website saying 77,721MW of power consumption at 4:55PM CST, beating our old record of 76,592MW way back on June 23rd. And it's not even that hot today, only 100. When that new heat dome really starts forming this weekend is when it's going to be hellish.

[SnakeBoy]

I've heard of this, this is the first news bit I've seen.


https://interestingengineering.com/a-huge-solar-eruption

Did we survive?

[DMC]

Did we survive?

For now, but right around the corner there's a flesh eating bacteria found in the Suez canal, it's likely the end of life as we know it.

[baseline bum]

Ugh looks like it's going to be sketchy whether ERCOT will meet demand today

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

https://i.ibb.co/TH6hyQx/shit.png

[Winehole23]

For now, but right around the corner there's a flesh eating bacteria found in the Suez canal, it's likely the end of life as we know it.say aren't you the guy who recently said Joe Biden wrecked the country? :lol

Nobody catastrophizes around here like the right, tbh.

[Winehole23]

The right to eat a steak in peace after stripping the people of rights is under threat!

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[Winehole23]

Ugh looks like it's going to be sketchy whether ERCOT will meet demand today

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

https://i.ibb.co/TH6hyQx/shit.pnghigh temperature, low wind output

imported grid power to the rescue

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[Winehole23]

Texans getting soaked by the energy only market, by design. Texas doesn't pay providers for capacity.

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[Winehole23]

Correction: didn't pay for spare capacity until a few months ago, at a cost to ratepayers of up to $1.4B a year, with this result yesterday:

Are you feeling the reliability yet?

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[Winehole23]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

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Putin? :lmao

[Winehole23]

Putin? :lmaonaw, just Texas pols coddling greedy energy producers. the rest of the US grid provides capacity without bending ratepayers over, because they prioritize public reliability over corporate profits.

[djohn2oo8]

Putin? :lmao
I’m surprised you aren’t blaming college students.

[baseline bum]

Putin? :lmao

LOL Abbott is going to get people killed, funny shit

[Winehole23]

naw, just Texas pols coddling greedy energy producers. the rest of the US grid provides capacity without bending ratepayers over, because they prioritize public reliability over corporate profits.ERCOT is in the phase of just now discovering its reliability mission and passing the costs along to the public.

[Winehole23]

(of importing electric power from Louisiana, for example.)

[Winehole23]

This is basic, nuts and bolts government shit that the Texas GOP has been asleep at the wheel on for 25 years.

[Winehole23]

Keeping the lights on and the water running.

[Winehole23]

This is basic, nuts and bolts government shit that the Texas GOP has been asleep at the wheel on for 25 years.If some of y'all think it isn't, now would be a good time to say you think the government should have nothing to do with providing reliable electricity and water.

[DMC]

Ok

[DMC]

Thanks

[DMC]

for

[DMC]

the information