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MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 01:46 PM
People being high on bagley in this thread was not something I expected. Imagine wanting to pay 15 million for a guy that is so bad AND wanting to give up assets for him. Mind blowing.

baseline bum
02-09-2022, 01:46 PM
Cherry picking these two :lol But yes, Randle was selected AS in 2020-21. If that doesn’t make him a star, then you’re saying DJ is not as a replacement :lol

Point is, yes there have been plenty of players in bad organizations and became stars elsewhere. Again pointing out ex-Lakers picks here.

Murray isn't a star either lol.

Lol cherry picking, OK I forgot Russell who is an above average starter but hardly a star player.

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 01:59 PM
I don't think the word skilled appeared in my post at all. :lol

Yall are seriously missing the point. But if you wanna keep fawning over a player the entire league won't take for free because you're so sure you know something the rest of the NBA doesnt...by all means:lol

I literally said he can play above = skill /ability! Give it a rest and relax…… and yes I rather a flier on Bagley than keep juancho and Lonnie’s expiring contracts. It’s all a sunk cost

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 02:00 PM
People being high on bagley in this thread was not something I expected. Imagine wanting to pay 15 million for a guy that is so bad AND wanting to give up assets for him. Mind blowing.

See my post :)

Leetonidas
02-09-2022, 02:04 PM
I literally said he can play above = skill /ability! Give it a rest and relax…… and yes I rather a flier on Bagley than keep juancho and Lonnie’s expiring contracts. It’s all a sunk cost

I wasn't even responding to you :lol

Yall the ones that need to give it a rest and relax on these ridiculous ideas and getting sensitive when someone tells you its asinine. the point i was oriignally making is the Spurs, nor anyone else in the league, is interested in trading for Bagley. The idea of giving up White for him is hilarious, just like adding Lonnie or anyone else to the deal is. Young would not be a terrible straight swap but again, 15M QO for Bagley (something the Bagley fans dont seem to understand) and his bad attitude + bust level play thus far is a non-starter. not even worth discussing

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 02:06 PM
I wasn't even responding to you :lol

Yall the ones that need to give it a rest and relax on these ridiculous ideas and getting sensitive when someone tells you its asinine

You got it����

Leetonidas
02-09-2022, 02:08 PM
You got it����

:toast

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 02:09 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491489079451652100

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 02:11 PM
we just turned Bryn Forbes into Satoransky and 2 2nd rounders. That's great. Satoransky is actually a good back up PG, not sure why his stats are so bad this season, but he's on an expiring anyway

LeBowen
02-09-2022, 02:11 PM
Second round pick to take an expiring contract, I'll take it.

mo7888
02-09-2022, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491489079451652100

It's good to see we're taking calls....I like the trade...at first glance it looks like we picked up a 2nd and actually have a little more salary on the books for a bigger trade.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:12 PM
Uh....it would be in this thread, or on the front page if something was happening.


uh... come on dex give us a little hope:lol

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 02:12 PM
Juancho turned into a second rounder and satoransky???? Nice

spurraider21
02-09-2022, 02:12 PM
did we just buy a 2nd round pick?

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491489079451652100


boom goes the dynamite

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 02:13 PM
Well done Spurs, using Juancho's contract creatively.

Now if they turn Satoransky into another 2nd...

Mr. Body
02-09-2022, 02:14 PM
They just gave up that one dude? That's it?

Dejounte
02-09-2022, 02:14 PM
Nice. We are wheeling and dealing.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:14 PM
Spurs stockpile 2nd rounders like bit coin

Dverde
02-09-2022, 02:16 PM
10682474 (tel:10682474)[/URL]]https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491489079451652100

One could hope that this trade purpose is to include the 2nd rounder and scrub to a bigger trade. One can dream, right? :lol

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:18 PM
One could hope that is trade is to include the 2nd rounder and scrub to a bigger trade. One can dream, right? :lol


anything is possible. Spurs definitely stockpiling 2rp's

Mr. Body
02-09-2022, 02:18 PM
Sucks for Joe Ingles. If he hadn't gotten hurt, this might not have happened.

gospursgojas
02-09-2022, 02:18 PM
Another guard? Lonnie and/or White being moved??

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 02:18 PM
Spurs probably get some cash from Utah as well.

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Small deals but they add value. Satoransky has no future with this team but wonder if the Spurs will move him or just let him expire.

Mr. Body
02-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Another guard? Lonnie and/or White being moved??

Satoransky seems washed.

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 02:19 PM
I mean technically if Satoransky got something left in the tank, the Spurs could deal White now. I doubt they do that though. Also a 2nd in which year? Don't we have like 3 in this draft already?

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Sucks for Joe Ingles. If he hadn't gotten hurt, this might not have happened.

Why does it suck for him? He can go right back and resign with Utah if he wants and if they were planning on keeping him.

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 02:21 PM
I mean technically if Satoransky got something left in the tank, the Spurs could deal White now. I doubt they do that though. Also a 2nd in which year? Don't we have like 3 in this draft already?

Spurs have one pick in the 2nd this year.

Mr. Body
02-09-2022, 02:21 PM
Why does it suck for him? He can go right back and resign with Utah if he wants and if they were planning on keeping him.

He's expiring? Yeah, that's fine.

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 02:22 PM
Spurs have one pick in the 2nd this year.

They have two - Detroit's and LAL's.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:22 PM
Thomas is trash but his contract is up and spura keep acquiring assets

Dex
02-09-2022, 02:23 PM
uh... come on dex give us a little hope:lol

You spoke it into existence!

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:24 PM
You spoke it into existence!

i was definitely eager:hat

spurspl
02-09-2022, 02:25 PM
good trade

Spursfanfromafar
02-09-2022, 02:27 PM
Two second round picks for Bryn Forbes and a Satoransky rental.. Thats a decent haul for almost nothing. Here's hoping for more.

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 02:29 PM
They have two - Detroit's and LAL's.

Oh you're right. I thought it was only one out of the 3 in that trade but its LAL and the better of the other two.

EDIT: Actually I'm seeing it both ways online. We'll see. Might be 1 or might be 2.

duncan2k5
02-09-2022, 02:30 PM
We need decent bigs... Hopefully this guy doesn't see the court... White needs to be traded

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 02:35 PM
Satoransky's contract is worth 10 million. I didn't realize it was that big, but yeah the Spurs have another tradable contract to make this a really good deadline now.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:36 PM
Satoransky's contract is worth 10 million. I didn't realize it was that big, but yeah the Spurs have another tradable contract to make this a really good deadline now.


yup I forgot he signed a 3/30 deal

cjw
02-09-2022, 02:39 PM
did we just buy a 2nd round pick?

Turned Forbes’ $4.5mm salary into Juan’s $6.2mm salary, which was turned into Sadoransky’s $10mm salary

They paid a lot less than the difference in salaries though for the pick, as the season is 2/3 over. Probably something like $6.8mm total. So they paid a little over a million bucks for each second rounder. And that’s assuming no buyout where they save money.

Well done.

itzsoweezee
02-09-2022, 02:41 PM
I hope satoransky is on an expiring contract

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 02:42 PM
Turned Forbes’ $4.5mm salary into Juan’s $6.2mm salary, which was turned into Sadoransky’s $10mm salary

They paid a lot less than the difference in salaries though for the pick, as the season is 2/3 over. Probably something like $6.8mm total. So they paid a little over a million bucks for each second rounder. And that’s assuming no buyout where they save money.

Well done.

They also got $2.5 mil in the Bos-Den deal and will probably get some cash in this deal as well, as Utah are reducing their tax bill significantly.

r0drig0lac
02-09-2022, 02:43 PM
Another guard? Lonnie and/or White being moved??

my thoughts

poopbox
02-09-2022, 02:45 PM
I hope Portland does get him. One less team going after Jalen Smith this summer. That’s a kid worth putting some time and effort into. He’s hungry, because he wasn’t gifted 30 minutes of playing time right off the bat. Probably Spursy, too. His dad is a retired Navy CPO.


So to be clear you are scoffing at Bagley because you don't think he is good enough or whatever but then turn around and want us to get Jalen Smith who just flat out isn't good enough to crack Phoenix rotation :rollin.

What exactly does Jalen Smith do that the spurs would be interested in other than just not being Drew Eubanks?

Mr. Body
02-09-2022, 02:45 PM
Bryn Forbes still raining SRPs on the franchise. Our G-League team is gonna be staaaaaaaaacked.

r0drig0lac
02-09-2022, 02:47 PM
So to be clear you are scoffing at Bagley because you don't think he is good enough or whatever but then turn around and want us to get Jalen Smith who just flat out isn't good enough to crack Phoenix rotation :rollin.

What exactly does Jalen Smith do that the spurs would be interested in other than just not being Drew Eubanks?

it's basically the same case, an attempt, nothing more.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 02:56 PM
Spurs now have 25 mil in expiring deals in tomas/thad

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 02:59 PM
Spurs now have 25 mil in expiring deals in tomas/thad

don't the Blazers need some more cap space and gift us something? :lol

SpurSpike
02-09-2022, 03:00 PM
An expiring contract, White and 2 second round picks for Collins maybe?

r0drig0lac
02-09-2022, 03:03 PM
An expiring contract, White and 2 second round picks for Collins maybe?

they would probably accept Walker/White/Thad for John/Knox

stnick2261
02-09-2022, 03:05 PM
Would (White + Satoransky) match Collins better salary-wise than (White + Thad)?

Chomag
02-09-2022, 03:10 PM
More players for Pop to bury in Austin , hey we might get a championship or two for the Austin team out of it , so can't be to mad

All jokes aside , picks are good just would be nice if Pop retires so we can get a coach that's not afraid of playing rookies.

Leetonidas
02-09-2022, 03:10 PM
Y'all are crazy if you think the Hawks are going to gift us Collins for that trash. Spurs would likely need to inlude their pick this year, something they wont want to give up. Plenty of teams can beat White + trash salary filler for Collins :lol be realistic man

stnick2261
02-09-2022, 03:11 PM
they would probably accept Walker/White/Thad for John/Knox

I would make that trade in a heart beat. I don't know anything about Knox, though. #9 draft pick 3 years ago with playing time going down each year?

Chinook
02-09-2022, 03:12 PM
Yall do realize We could just not offer the QO for Bagley. We can still resign him to a lower amount then that. We would lose his bird rights so we could not go over the cap to sign him if we dont offer the QO. We also would lose the right to match another team.

It doesn't matter, but to clarify, that's not true. You can keep a player's Bird rights while not offering a QO. It's not the same thing as renouncing a player. The actions happen simultaneously when you get into the part of the off-season where a player has to consent to the QO being pulled. But the Spurs could just not tender it in the first place.

Regardless, I've always liked Bagley and wouldn't be opposed to trading Thad for him. It's just that he doesn't have positive value and the Spurs shouldn't be willing to trade a second for him just because he has some potential.

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 03:14 PM
I'm wondering what we gon do with all these 2nd rounders? Spurs need some 1st round picks. Would teams drafting in the late first round trade their pick for 2 early 2nds to save some salary and sign the 2nds on two-way contracts?

baseline bum
02-09-2022, 03:17 PM
I wasn't even responding to you :lol

Yall the ones that need to give it a rest and relax on these ridiculous ideas and getting sensitive when someone tells you its asinine. the point i was oriignally making is the Spurs, nor anyone else in the league, is interested in trading for Bagley. The idea of giving up White for him is hilarious, just like adding Lonnie or anyone else to the deal is. Young would not be a terrible straight swap but again, 15M QO for Bagley (something the Bagley fans dont seem to understand) and his bad attitude + bust level play thus far is a non-starter. not even worth discussing

JFC there are some ridiculously shitty #2 picks this century: Bagley, Thabeet, Marvin Williams, Derrick Williams, Evan Turner, Stromile Swift, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Darko. Let's sign them all for their potential.

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 03:17 PM
I'm wondering what we gon do with all these 2nd rounders? Spurs need some 1st round picks. Would teams drafting in the late first round trade their pick for 2 early 2nds to save some salary and sign the 2nds on two-way contracts?

2nd rounders can be very valuable����

rjv
02-09-2022, 03:24 PM
I'm wondering what we gon do with all these 2nd rounders? Spurs need some 1st round picks. Would teams drafting in the late first round trade their pick for 2 early 2nds to save some salary and sign the 2nds on two-way contracts?

i seem to recall seeing this kind of downward movement on draft nights but i don't know how common it is. that'd be a great scenario though. and, of course, the 2nd rounders are still nice trade assets.

CGD
02-09-2022, 03:28 PM
My next call is to Boston -- do they give up a FRP to get off $14M next year of Hortford's contract?

Expirings of Tomas/Thad (~24.1M) get you there or close for matching purposes this year.

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 03:31 PM
My next call is to Boston -- do they give up a FRP to get off $14M next year of Hortford's contract?

Expirings of Tomas/Thad (~24.1M) get you there or close for matching purposes this year.

Spurs can't trade Satoransky with another player though. They would have to send them to different teams

Kevin
02-09-2022, 03:33 PM
My next call is to Boston -- do they give up a FRP to get off $14M next year of Hortford's contract?

Expirings of Tomas/Thad (~24.1M) get you there or close for matching purposes this year.

Horford still has 14.5 million guaranteed next season. That would go a long ways to destroying this summers free agency. Not worth it for a mid first.

CGD
02-09-2022, 03:35 PM
Horford still has 14.5 million guaranteed next season. That would go a long ways to destroying this summers free agency. Not worth it for a mid first.

Have you seen this summer's FA class? Gross. Probably smart to just rent the space for assets.

CGD
02-09-2022, 03:36 PM
Spurs can't trade Satoransky with another player though. They would have to send them to different teams

Ah, I was not aware that was a limitation.

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 03:37 PM
Spurs can't trade Satoransky with another player though. They would have to send them to different teams

Why?

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 03:38 PM
My next call is to Boston -- do they give up a FRP to get off $14M next year of Hortford's contract?

Expirings of Tomas/Thad (~24.1M) get you there or close for matching purposes this year.

Boston wants to shed payroll this year to avoid the tax. They won't take a deal that ends with them having more salary

Chinook
02-09-2022, 03:42 PM
JFC there are some ridiculously shitty #2 picks this century: Bagley, Thabeet, Marvin Williams, Derrick Williams, Evan Turner, Stromile Swift, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Darko. Let's sign them all for their potential.

Marvin was a solid player for years. Easily the best player on that list. It sucks he got drafted ahead of two stars, but he shed his bust label by the end.

Don't forget Jabari, btb.

CGD
02-09-2022, 03:42 PM
Boston wants to shed payroll this year to avoid the tax. They won't take a deal that ends with them having more salary

Huh? Hortford is owed 27M this year, and we'd be sending over ~24-25M in expirings, so they'd save 2-3M.

It's a moot point, though. Apparently Spurs cant aggregate Tomas with another player at this time.

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 03:42 PM
Why?

Teams can only trade players they’ve acquired on their own. They can combine them with other players 60 days after the initial trade. It was the same with Juancho.

PhantomDashCam
02-09-2022, 03:48 PM
1491505862069960706

2027 huh? Migh be on opposite ends of the standings then.

baseline bum
02-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Marvin was a solid player for years. Easily the best player on that list. It sucks he got drafted ahead of two stars, but he shed his bust label by the end.

Don't forget Jabari, btb.

I can't put Parker on that bust list considering he was pretty solid until he started getting hurt.

exstatic
02-09-2022, 03:50 PM
Spurs have one pick in the 2nd this year.

Nope. Detroits and LALs.

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 03:50 PM
I mean they could still do it. Just would need a 3rd team involved that takes either one and sends a player with similar salary to Boston. But the Spurs definitely need to get a 1st to eat that Horford salary

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-09-2022, 03:57 PM
1491505862069960706

2027 huh? Migh be on opposite ends of the standings then.

It's not a Jazz pick though. It's a complicated one, which is why Woj didn't even bother with it :lol Basically it's the worst second round pick in 2027 out of : OKC, Houston, Indiana and Miami.

exstatic
02-09-2022, 03:58 PM
Teams can only trade players they’ve acquired on their own. They can combine them with other players 60 days after the initial trade. It was the same with Juancho.

Didn’t satoransky arrive alone from Portland? We got no other players out of the deal…

PhantomDashCam
02-09-2022, 04:01 PM
It's not a Jazz pick though. It's a complicated one, which is why Woj didn't even bother with it :lol Basically it's the worst second round pick in 2027 out of : OKC, Houston, Indiana and Miami.

Oh, Thanks for the clarification. Yeah that would eat into Woj’s Twitter time/character limit without Q.

3 Trades in one year for Spurs (or is it more?) and they may not be done. This GM thing is going to Brian’s head :lol

Atl Spur
02-09-2022, 04:12 PM
Oh, Thanks for the clarification. Yeah that would eat into Woj’s Twitter time/character limit without Q.

3 Trades in one year for Spurs (or is it more?) and they may not be done. This GM thing is going to Brian’s head :lol

Lol

baseline bum
02-09-2022, 04:14 PM
Why does it suck for him? He can go right back and resign with Utah if he wants and if they were planning on keeping him.

Utah won't have Bird rights. I think max they could offer him would be taxpayer's MLE, which is half of what he makes right now.

Chinook
02-09-2022, 04:23 PM
Oh, Thanks for the clarification. Yeah that would eat into Woj’s Twitter time/character limit without Q.

3 Trades in one year for Spurs (or is it more?) and they may not be done. This GM thing is going to Brian’s head :lol

This was the fourth or fifth if you count Chriss

exstatic
02-09-2022, 05:16 PM
Utah won't have Bird rights. I think max they could offer him would be taxpayer's MLE, which is half of what he makes right now.

They weren’t going to pay him that anyway. There was talk of not re-signing him.

TD 21
02-09-2022, 05:28 PM
I mean technically if Satoransky got something left in the tank, the Spurs could deal White now. I doubt they do that though. Also a 2nd in which year? Don't we have like 3 in this draft already?

:lmao At his best, Satoransky was a third guard. This season, for whatever reason(s) he's been a replacement player.

He's not only not a White replacement, but likely to never play a game as a Spur. If not re-routed, expect a buyout.

CGD
02-09-2022, 05:29 PM
Teams can only trade players they’ve acquired on their own. They can combine them with other players 60 days after the initial trade. It was the same with Juancho.

So basically, my BOS scenario would only play out at this coming up draft at this point assuming spurs dont buy out both Thad and Tomas.

exstatic
02-09-2022, 05:47 PM
So basically, my BOS scenario would only play out at this coming up draft at this point assuming spurs dont buy out both Thad and Tomas.

No. Once the Finals end, ending contracts are over, not tradeable.

spurs1990
02-09-2022, 05:57 PM
JFC there are some ridiculously shitty #2 picks this century: Bagley, Thabeet, Marvin Williams, Derrick Williams, Evan Turner, Stromile Swift, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Darko. Let's sign them all for their potential.

Morant, Durant, and Aldridge look like the only 3 that panned out to HOF material

Dejounte
02-09-2022, 05:59 PM
What’s the next move, Wright!!!!

exstatic
02-09-2022, 06:04 PM
What’s the next move, Wright!!!!

We’ll find out in the next 21 hours.

Wouldn’t shock me if we were the 5th mystery team in the Simmons/Harden trade, and Thad was part of it. The crap offers leaked may only be the fallback position.

3&D_TBH
02-09-2022, 06:04 PM
So can we agree signing Bryn was a good move?

mo7888
02-09-2022, 06:07 PM
We’ll find out in the next 21 hours.

Wouldn’t shock me if we were the 5th mystery team in the Simmons/Harden trade, and Thad was part of it. The crap offers leaked may only be the fallback position.

I think you're right. I saw an article earlier that said indy expects to move Rubio ($17M) for value and if that's the case I'd think Thad (similar but slightly smaller contract) should be worth more since he can actually still play and defends Giannis reasonably well.

cjw
02-09-2022, 06:19 PM
We’ll find out in the next 21 hours.

Wouldn’t shock me if we were the 5th mystery team in the Simmons/Harden trade, and Thad was part of it. The crap offers leaked may only be the fallback position.

There’s a reason he’s been on ice (three games played in a month).

A team that can throw in a useful bench piece on an expiring into a big deal can really help balance the numbers out. The more money that goes into the deal, the easier it is to make numbers match because everything is a multiple of the 125% of outgoing.

I can dream, but my ideal outcome would be upgrading some of the other less than perfect pieces along with Young for someone who’s a better long term fit. Walker and White are at the top of that list. But that’s probably too much to ask for.

r0drig0lac
02-09-2022, 06:25 PM
So can we agree signing Bryn was a good move?

no

gambit1990
02-09-2022, 06:29 PM
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2021/02/09222120/USATSI_15552756-scaled-e1612931086233-1024x683.jpg

mo7888
02-09-2022, 06:29 PM
A couple random thoughts:

I think there's a dark horse kind of chance that a team like okc who's 23M below the floor and sitting on 3 1st's this year might make an offer for White to put next to SGA.

Portland now has an insane amount of cap space this summer and they say they are going to build around Dame but, with what? This is a poor FA class and they don't have a ton of assets so how do they build around him? (I still think they move him too this summer but who knows).

TD 21
02-09-2022, 06:34 PM
A couple random thoughts:

I think there's a dark horse kind of chance that a team like okc who's 23M below the floor and sitting on 3 1st's this year might make an offer for White to put next to SGA.

Portland now has an insane amount of cap space this summer and they say they are going to build around Dame but, with what? This is a poor FA class and they don't have a ton of assets so how do they build around him? (I still think they move him too this summer but who knows).

The Thuder have already paired Giddey with Gilgeous-Alexander and will surely have numerous chances at other projected high ceiling guards going forward.

The Trail Blazers are committed to pairing Simons with Lillard. Granted, a bigger, quality defender alongside either would make sense.

3&D_TBH
02-09-2022, 06:36 PM
no Just by signing him we were able to acquire two second round picks. Aren't those good chess moves for a rebuilding team? You can't let dislike for a player interfere with your ability to collect assets.

r0drig0lac
02-09-2022, 06:39 PM
Just by signing him we were able to acquire two second round picks. Aren't those good chess moves for a rebuilding team? You can't let dislike for a player interfere with your ability to collect assets.

yes, I agree that the way they resolved this "situation" was better than I expected, I just don't agree with the signature under any circumstances.

3&D_TBH
02-09-2022, 06:43 PM
yes, I agree that the way they resolved this "situation" was better than I expected, I just don't agree with the signature under any circumstances. Pretty sure they signed him just because he had trade value. Lot's of teams need a bench guy that can come in and hit a quick three.

PhantomDashCam
02-09-2022, 06:47 PM
A couple random thoughts:

I think there's a dark horse kind of chance that a team like okc who's 23M below the floor and sitting on 3 1st's this year might make an offer for White to put next to SGA.

Portland now has an insane amount of cap space this summer and they say they are going to build around Dame but, with what? This is a poor FA class and they don't have a ton of assets so how do they build around him? (I still think they move him too this summer but who knows).

The Spurs tend to send there sought after assets Eastbound (for fear of reprisal I would assume.)

Imagine they sent White to New York. He could have this "Lin-Sanity" type effect there, the media comes out with these crazy memes and nicknames, maybe something like "White-Washing"...uh, hang on, I better re-think that... :(

Well one thing we can all agree on is there no way that Harrison Barnes is getting traded. The Kings said so themselves.

mo7888
02-09-2022, 06:49 PM
The Thuder have already paired Giddey with Gilgeous-Alexander and will surely have numerous chances at other projected high ceiling guards going forward.

The Trail Blazers are committed to pairing Simons with Lillard. Granted, a bigger, quality defender alongside either would make sense.

Yup, and like I said it's just a darkhorse kind of thing but with Giddey's size I think he, SGA, and White could all play together.

On the Blazer front, I just don't see Dame being excited if the plan is to pair him with Simons instead on CJ and saving money for the club.

mo7888
02-09-2022, 06:52 PM
The Spurs tend to send there sought after assets Eastbound (for fear of reprisal I would assume.)

Imagine they sent White to New York. He could have this "Lin-Sanity" type effect there, the media comes out with these crazy memes and nicknames, maybe something like "White-Washing"...uh, hang on, I better re-think that... :(

Well one thing we can all agree on is there no way that Harrison Barnes is getting traded. The Kings said so themselves.

I'm sure there are other options for White and it'll cone down to what we want...we may want a specific player but okc can give us draft capital without sending any salary back and we could open as much as $55M in space this summer if we did that.

Of course there's nothing on the FA market that really excites me so...

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 07:06 PM
I'm sure there are other options for White and it'll cone down to what we want...we may want a specific player but okc can give us draft capital without sending any salary back and we could open as much as $55M in space this summer if we did that.

Of course there's nothing on the FA market that really excites me so...

OKC is not sending anything for White. He doesn't even make sense for them age wise. They are trying to absorb Tobias Harris contract into cap space for draft capital. That's the move they gonna make. For the Spurs giving up White only makes sense for John Collins and it's better if they do that in the offseason

Dverde
02-09-2022, 07:55 PM
10682772 (tel:10682772)[/URL]]OKC is not sending anything for White. He doesn't even make sense for them age wise. They are trying to absorb Tobias Harris contract into cap space for draft capital. That's the move they gonna make. For the Spurs giving up White only makes sense for John Collins and it's better if they do that in the offseason

OKC does have 19 1st and 2nd round picks between now and 2025. They are going to need to do something with them.

https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

TD 21
02-09-2022, 07:57 PM
Yup, and like I said it's just a darkhorse kind of thing but with Giddey's size I think he, SGA, and White could all play together.

On the Blazer front, I just don't see Dame being excited if the plan is to pair him with Simons instead on CJ and saving money for the club.

They could, but the spacing would be tight, so they might as well stick with Dort for the time being.

Word is their front office is working in concert with him though and will reroute the assets/utilize the flexibility to attempt to retool on the fly.

Leetonidas
02-09-2022, 08:03 PM
Westbrook missing his first game of the season tonight...

FlAVaK
02-09-2022, 08:10 PM
Westbrook missing his first game of the season tonight...

He missed multiple times recently:

1490352345527435268

RC_Drunkford
02-09-2022, 08:15 PM
OKC does have 19 1st and 2nd round picks between now and 2025. They are going to need to do something with them.

https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/draft-coverage/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-thunders-future-draft-picks

I'm sure trading for Derrick White is near the top of their list

FlAVaK
02-09-2022, 08:17 PM
Russ in february (4 games):

14 FGm
14 TOs

28%/15%/55% shooting

NASpurs
02-09-2022, 08:18 PM
He missed multiple times recently:

1490352345527435268

:lol @ that video and yet vs the Spurs



3
36.3
10.7-19.3
55.2
1.7-3.7
45.5
2.7-5.0
53.3
0.3
9.0
9.3
6.3
0.0
2.0
3.7
5.0
25.7

Dverde
02-09-2022, 09:03 PM
Looks like The Wizards are closing in on John Collins.

slick'81
02-09-2022, 09:19 PM
Looks like The Wizards are closing in on John Collins.


no derrick to atl

Dejounte
02-09-2022, 09:24 PM
In the pregame interview, Pop sounded more supportive than usual to the idea of teams having to improve by trade if they had to

i feel a trade definitely happening

emanueldavidginobili
02-09-2022, 09:41 PM
In the pregame interview, Pop sounded more supportive than usual to the idea of teams having to improve by trade if they had to

i feel a trade definitely happening
What are you thinking in terms as a trade going down? Three trades in one season would be surprising as hell.

Degoat
02-09-2022, 09:45 PM
In the pregame interview, Pop sounded more supportive than usual to the idea of teams having to improve by trade if they had to

i feel a trade definitely happening

I agree Pop didn’t down play it like usual but I still don’t expect anything major from what he said. Maybe just a Thad young deal

slick'81
02-09-2022, 09:51 PM
Im calling harden to the Sixers in the am

Dverde
02-09-2022, 09:54 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1491604264057290759?s=21

CGD
02-09-2022, 09:55 PM
I agree Pop didn’t down play it like usual but I still don’t expect anything major from what he said. Maybe just a Thad young deal

If ATL needs cap relief next year, I’m happy to send them Thad/Lonnie expiring for Gallo’s Contract/asset.

CGD
02-09-2022, 10:39 PM
The other Thad home could be Portland. If they continue their bloody tear down week, they could tidy up their books further by sending us Bledsoes 18M contract for Thad/assets. Bledsoe is only guaranteed about $3m next year.

exstatic
02-09-2022, 10:42 PM
Im calling harden to the Sixers in the am

You might be off on the timing. Supposedly, Morey will wait for 2:59 to submit the trade so that his EC foes not involved in the trade have no time to react to it.

baseline bum
02-09-2022, 10:43 PM
Im calling harden to the Sixers in the am

Woj says nothing is really happening there right now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX-EkYyeWnM

exstatic
02-09-2022, 10:44 PM
If ATL needs cap relief next year, I’m happy to send them Thad/Lonnie expiring for Gallo’s Contract/asset.

There’d better be a damned good asset attached for us to eat that $20M

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CGD
02-09-2022, 10:46 PM
There’d better be a damned good asset attached for us to eat that $20M

Apparently he’s only guaranteed $5M next year on his deal.

MannyIsGod
02-09-2022, 10:47 PM
I don't expect the Spurs to eat a contract for next year. We will be one of the few teams with cap space this summer and I would rather have that than almost any asset they're likely to get.

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ace3g
02-09-2022, 11:18 PM
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Noah Magaro-George @N_Magaro
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02-09-2022, 11:29 PM
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Does he still live in the apartments out at the Rim? Bc of so I will pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport.

BacktoBasics
02-09-2022, 11:34 PM
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I'm a huge Lonnie fan. I was pleased with the path he took up to last year and the progression was there. He just couldn't take it up one more notch this year. I never expected all star level or super high production but I did expect somewhere in the are of 15ppg and instead of a higher 3pt % its lower than last season. He's just not a threat or a big concern from other teams defensively.

As a fan I'd like to see what he would do next season especially if we have a slightly better team but I'm not gonna be devastated if they move him. He's still a decent spark off the bench so its gotta be a decent deal. I'm not about giving this guy away for nothing or a 2nd.

poopbox
02-09-2022, 11:42 PM
I'm a huge Lonnie fan. I was pleased with the path he took up to last year and the progression was there. He just couldn't take it up one more notch this year. I never expected all star level or super high production but I did expect somewhere in the are of 15ppg and instead of a higher 3pt % its lower than last season. He's just not a threat or a big concern from other teams defensively.

As a fan I'd like to see what he would do next season especially if we have a slightly better team but I'm not gonna be devastated if they move him. He's still a decent spark off the bench so its gotta be a decent deal. I'm not about giving this guy away for nothing or a 2nd.

Don't think Lonnie is signing a deal in SA next year. Rather we trade him or not I think this is his last season as a spur.

NASpurs
02-09-2022, 11:42 PM
Spurs saving that cap space for the Return of Bryn: part 3.

rankingtear
02-10-2022, 12:33 AM
SAC looking much better with Sabonis.

Teamduncan21
02-10-2022, 12:42 AM
Spurs saving that cap space for the Return of Bryn: part 3.

Then swap for more second rounds. Stocks!

John B
02-10-2022, 12:47 AM
SAC looking much better with Sabonis.

Good. By the end of RRT we could be bottom 5 or worst :ihit

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:58 AM
Does he still live in the apartments out at the Rim? Bc of so I will pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport.

He just bought a house in the same area like 2 months ago ironically :lol

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:59 AM
SAC looking much better with Sabonis.

They played the shitty wolves so hard to tell, but hopefully they keep winning.

tbdog
02-10-2022, 01:06 AM
Sabonis is good. Like really good. He just sits under embid and Jokic. And probably on gobert level but slightly ahead of Towns. And his contract is nice.

talkspurs
02-10-2022, 03:32 AM
Ok, so why trade for him at all and opposed to waiting until the summer? As one of the teams with space, Spurs could offer him a 3 year deal starting at his current salary but make years 2, 3 only partially guaranteed ala Zollins. Kings probably don’t match.

There are a few reason to trade for him now as opposed to waiting.

Since we would be paying him or young why not pay him. It would save us some money although I dont think that matters to much. It would give us an early look at him compared to the rest so if he works out gives a few months to convince him to be here as opposed to a trip or maybe just a short talk. Also if he does not work out here would only be a few months then he is gone as opposed to him being here for a year or having to be bought out and effecting the cap even longer. We get to see how his attitude is on the team as opposed to signing him and hooping it works out. In a way it becomes a 90 day trial period and if we dont like it we get rid of it as opposed to having him for 2-3 years.

r0drig0lac
02-10-2022, 03:40 AM
SAC looking much better with Sabonis.
as expected

talkspurs
02-10-2022, 03:47 AM
After he busts out, maybe, but you do not acquire his rookie contract. You wait until someone waives him or renounces his rights. He’s a scrap heap project, at the most.

He is at the bust point now. If he does not do well the last couple months then we dont resign him. If he does ok we sign him for less. At the end of this contract nothing says we have we have to sign him to a big contract. As far as this year paying him is less then paying Young so it would not really be paying 2nd pick salary since it would be either paying him or young.

talkspurs
02-10-2022, 03:56 AM
People being high on bagley in this thread was not something I expected. Imagine wanting to pay 15 million for a guy that is so bad AND wanting to give up assets for him. Mind blowing.

I would not give up assets for him. I would do young for him. As far as paying him your paying either him or young so the pay is not something to really think about.

talkspurs
02-10-2022, 03:58 AM
I wasn't even responding to you :lol

Yall the ones that need to give it a rest and relax on these ridiculous ideas and getting sensitive when someone tells you its asinine. the point i was oriignally making is the Spurs, nor anyone else in the league, is interested in trading for Bagley. The idea of giving up White for him is hilarious, just like adding Lonnie or anyone else to the deal is. Young would not be a terrible straight swap but again, 15M QO for Bagley (something the Bagley fans dont seem to understand) and his bad attitude + bust level play thus far is a non-starter. not even worth discussing

You just dont tender the QO. If you dont tender it then he becomes a FA. You can sign him for less then that as long as you dont tender the QO. He would just replace Young for this year while giving us a look at him.

talkspurs
02-10-2022, 04:10 AM
It doesn't matter, but to clarify, that's not true. You can keep a player's Bird rights while not offering a QO. It's not the same thing as renouncing a player. The actions happen simultaneously when you get into the part of the off-season where a player has to consent to the QO being pulled. But the Spurs could just not tender it in the first place.

Regardless, I've always liked Bagley and wouldn't be opposed to trading Thad for him. It's just that he doesn't have positive value and the Spurs shouldn't be willing to trade a second for him just because he has some potential.

Are you sure about that? Your better then me a CBA but I thought if we did not extend the QO then it was the same as renouncing him. If not then he would still count against our cap for next year until we renounce him correct? IM guessing we would renounce (or sign him for less if we were keeping him) him so he would not count to free up the cap space this summer. We should have plenty of room this year so we would not have to worry about going over the cap to resign him if he did well.

FlAVaK
02-10-2022, 06:09 AM
LJ Ellis:

What to Expect from the San Antonio Spurs at the NBA Trade Deadline (https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-nba-trade-deadline-what-to-expect/)

Dejounte
02-10-2022, 07:20 AM
No woj bombs last night? Lame

exstatic
02-10-2022, 07:34 AM
Good. By the end of RRT we could be bottom 5 or worst :ihit

Except WSH and POR are now in the tank….

KingKev
02-10-2022, 08:46 AM
LJ Ellis:

What to Expect from the San Antonio Spurs at the NBA Trade Deadline (https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-nba-trade-deadline-what-to-expect/)

who dat?

TimDunkem
02-10-2022, 08:49 AM
who dat?
Some nobody.

heyheymymy
02-10-2022, 10:17 AM
c'mon do something.jpg

exstatic
02-10-2022, 10:21 AM
c'mon do something.jpg

There’s some chatter that Morey will wait for the last minute to drop the blockbuster trade so that no EC opponents get a chance to do any follow on or reactive trades.

Mr. Body
02-10-2022, 10:25 AM
There’s some chatter that Morey will wait for the last minute to drop the blockbuster trade so that no EC opponents get a chance to do any follow on or reactive trades.

Seems kind of silly. As if teams could concoct something in an hour.

My guess is nothing Nets/Sixers happens as the two sides stand off. The Sixers benefit more right now, but Morey is a tool and will try to squeeze, running time out. They'd more likely do something this summer.

Mr. Body
02-10-2022, 10:27 AM
I can see today as being actually pretty quiet. Jerami Grant isn't going anywhere. Westbrook won't be traded. Simmons/Harden is too big to hammer out in a few days. Might be Turner moving and some other bits and pieces but no big things. Spurs don't find anything for Thad Young and buy him out, or find someone who will trade a larger expiring plus a 2nd rounder or something, who will then buy himout.

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 10:27 AM
Well we got what, 5 hours left. Not much time to fuck around now.

Degoat
02-10-2022, 10:29 AM
Kinda hope the harden/simmons trade goes down, would be must see TV when they play one another

exstatic
02-10-2022, 10:32 AM
I can see today as being actually pretty quiet. Jerami Grant isn't going anywhere. Westbrook won't be traded. Simmons/Harden is too big to hammer out in a few days. Might be Turner moving and some other bits and pieces but no big things. Spurs don't find anything for Thad Young and buy him out, or find someone who will trade a larger expiring plus a 2nd rounder or something, who will then buy himout.

Supposedly, even though both Sabo and Turner were on the block, they were never trading both, and both the team and Turner are excited to get back to a one center offense.

heyheymymy
02-10-2022, 10:37 AM
There’s some chatter that Morey will wait for the last minute to drop the blockbuster trade so that no EC opponents get a chance to do any follow on or reactive trades.


Good info, I could see that. You were saying last night that the Spurs could be that mystery team that helps facilitate the deal with offsetting financials/ballast in which case the deal is already done and we will find out in a few hours. It's actually a pretty sound strategy too. I wouldn't doubt some other contenders might have foreseen this and initiated some preliminary contingency reactionary trades on standby if they need to address a new look from their obstacles to a ring. If you've already discussed it, executing that trade wouldn't take long once you saw the Harden deal happen with hours to spare before the deadline. So Morey is trying to leave not even enough time for the phone call lol.

heyheymymy
02-10-2022, 10:39 AM
Woj was backing off the Harden Simmons discussions last night so it's not a lock by any means

exstatic
02-10-2022, 10:43 AM
Good info, I could see that. You were saying last night that the Spurs could be that mystery team that helps facilitate the deal with offsetting financials/ballast in which case the deal is already done and we will find out in a few hours. It's actually a pretty sound strategy too. I wouldn't doubt some other contenders might have foreseen this and initiated some preliminary contingency reactionary trades on standby if they need to address a new look from their obstacles to a ring. If you've already discussed it, executing that trade wouldn't take long once you saw the Harden deal happen with hours to spare before the deadline.

Teams involved in the trade could also want to trade their new assets again. Possible they could already know what they’re getting, and be working the phones quietly.

Or, this could be just a bunch of smoke. We’ll see in a bit over 4 hours.

Dverde
02-10-2022, 10:44 AM
Watch OKC throw the Lakers a lifeline by taking back Russ Westbrook. Somebody will help them unload their 40M+ mistake.

exstatic
02-10-2022, 10:46 AM
Woj was backing off the Harden Simmons discussions last night so it's not a lock by any means

Yeah, he has, but there’s still a lot of smoke. I don’t know if it will happen, but it really needs to. Harden, per par, has worn out his welcome in Brooklyn, and Simmons will never play in Philly again.

MultiTroll
02-10-2022, 10:47 AM
Are we all set for 5 more wins this season or will we make a move for a 2031 2nd rounder?

lmbebo
02-10-2022, 10:51 AM
Watch OKC throw the Lakers a lifeline by taking back Russ Westbrook. Somebody will help them unload their 40M+ mistake.

They will take him back, but only if they get picks

Dverde
02-10-2022, 10:55 AM
Just curious…if it took a 2022 first pick swap to get the deal done for John Collins? A lot of you desperately want this guy. Would you do it?

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 10:58 AM
Just curious…if it took a 2022 first pick swap to get the deal done for John Collins? A lot of you desperately want this guy. Would you do it?

nope. Not if the Spurs get into the top 5. Much rather a future first, best would be a 2025 one (either Chi or SA 1st). Spurs really need to find a way to get another first to have more flexibility in trade offers.

John B
02-10-2022, 10:59 AM
They will take him back, but only if they get picks

Lakers not willing to give up their 2027 pick

John B
02-10-2022, 11:12 AM
​​
Yeah, he has, but there’s still a lot of smoke. I don’t know if it will happen, but it really needs to. Harden, per par, has worn out his welcome in Brooklyn, and Simmons will never play in Philly again.

https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/1491789674339209228?s=20&t=l3LcpWV1Yz7V_l1ygToBKw

Text from a former NBA player this morning: "Harden gonna have a hard time getting a former teammate to introduce him at his HOF induction"

:lol

exstatic
02-10-2022, 11:13 AM
nope. Not if the Spurs get into the top 5. Much rather a future first, best would be a 2025 one (either Chi or SA 1st). Spurs really need to find a way to get another first to have more flexibility in trade offers.

If we get Collins, we will be in the playin range. Top4 odds would be no better than the last 2 years. We’d likely be right around the same pick draw area as ATL.

Leetonidas
02-10-2022, 11:13 AM
Just curious…if it took a 2022 first pick swap to get the deal done for John Collins? A lot of you desperately want this guy. Would you do it?

Not this seasons, not when we actually have a shot at the #1 pick

exstatic
02-10-2022, 11:15 AM
Lakers not willing to give up their 2027 pick

It’ll take more than one FRP to swallow that monster contract. OKC got 2 from Philly a couple of years ago to take Horford, and his contract wasn’t a SuperMax AND he could still play.

Portnoy1000
02-10-2022, 11:21 AM
The Spurs need to trade for a solid PF. That would solve a bunch of problems and force Pops hand. I hate that folks here don't want to give up a frp in a deal for let's say a J.Collins. Aside from Duncan and Parker what rookie has ever gotten to start immediately and play meaningful minutes(25-30) for the Spurs? Everyone wants a high draft pick and yet the recent ones that we've gotten really haven't played a whole lot. Getting an established talent at PF is a must. Last night showed me all I needed to see. You have a team that starts 2 sometimes 3 7footers and Pop at no point in the game played more than one big. The excuse for him would always be spacing. But that has been proven to be false. Zach Collins has a jumpshot, so there is no reason he couldn't have gotten minutes w/ Poetl. Walker, White, Keldon can all go for the right price. Get an established PF that is a legit 6-9 and can hit a jumpshot or the 3 and force Pop to play him at that position. J.Collins is that dude and I guarantee not even Pop would bench or limit Jacob to start or play Collins at the 5

Dverde
02-10-2022, 11:25 AM
Just curious…if it took a 2022 first pick swap to get the deal done for John Collins? A lot of you desperately want this guy. Would you do it?

Make it a little more realistic. Top 3 protected this year, if not given, top three pick protected again in 2023. Would you do it?

exstatic
02-10-2022, 11:30 AM
Make it a little more realistic. Top 3 protected this year, if not given, top three pick protected again in 2023. Would you do it?

Top 4. Top 3 is dated, since the top 4 are drawn for now.

exstatic
02-10-2022, 11:31 AM
Make it a little more realistic. Top 3 protected this year, if not given, top three pick protected again in 2023. Would you do it?

Top 4. Top 3 is dated, since the top 4 are drawn for now.

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:32 AM
Make it a little more realistic. Top 3 protected this year, if not given, top three pick protected again in 2023. Would you do it?

No, because if you add JC we wint have much of a chance at a top 3 pick. I would wait until the summer and if our pick isn't top 8 I'd be willing to include it then. There's no reason to rush this.

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 11:34 AM
Nah I wouldn't do a pick swap for Collins. Not willing to fuck with the upcoming pick at all. Suffered through this shit show of a year I want the damn payoff.

Dverde
02-10-2022, 11:38 AM
No, because if you add JC we wint have much of a chance at a top 3 pick. I would wait until the summer and if our pick isn't top 8 I'd be willing to include it then. There's no reason to rush this.

He may be a Wizard tomorrow. He’s already signed a new contract. Waiting is best, but you could lose him that way.

Portnoy1000
02-10-2022, 11:40 AM
Nah I wouldn't do a pick swap for Collins. Not willing to fuck with the upcoming pick at all. Suffered through this shit show of a year I want the damn payoff.

What are the Spurs gonna do with the Pick exactly? Pop is too good of a coach to have team that can get a top 3 pick. And what has Pop shown you that he's willing to play a high draft pick?

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 11:42 AM
He may be a Wizard tomorrow. He’s already signed a new contract. Waiting is best, but you could lose him that way.

that's the gamble righ here. I hope he stays in ATL and we can get him this summer. Wizards don't really have anything that the Hawks want. They basically want either Smart or White and a 1st. But if it's a given that he gets moved at the deadline, Spurs should make an offer.

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:43 AM
Bagley to Detroit...The dream is dead lol

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:44 AM
He may be a Wizard tomorrow. He’s already signed a new contract. Waiting is best, but you could lose him that way.

Ok...we should be prepared to lose him then...he's a nice player and a good fit but, you don't give up this draft pick at this point for him...

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 11:46 AM
I wonder if Bagley to Detroit signals a Grant deal. Will Detroit extend that QO?

Degoat
02-10-2022, 11:46 AM
Ibaka to the bucks in a deal, kinda thought they might have been a sleeper for Thad young

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:48 AM
Whoa...we traded Thad for dragic

K...
02-10-2022, 11:48 AM
Oh no not bagley!

Texas_Ranger
02-10-2022, 11:49 AM
At least Dragic wont kill us anymore

Degoat
02-10-2022, 11:49 AM
Might have already been mentioned but Lonnie put a story on his Instagram about the highs and lows, bad and ugly, that it’s all part of the process. Kinda sounds like he’s definitely being shopped or just benched lol

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:50 AM
Whoa...we traded Thad for dragic

I did not see that coming. .curious to see the whole deal and any follow ups...

K...
02-10-2022, 11:50 AM
So poetle was too much to buy, so thad was the consolation i guess

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 11:50 AM
Ibaka seems like a good pickup for the Bucks.

Degoat
02-10-2022, 11:50 AM
Oh shit Dragic!!!

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:51 AM
Whoa...we traded Thad for dragic

I did not see that coming. .curious to see the whole deal and any follow ups...

Degoat
02-10-2022, 11:52 AM
Does Dragic get bought out y’all think?

LeBowen
02-10-2022, 11:52 AM
I did not see that coming. .curious to see the whole deal and any follow ups...

I guess we get some second rounders and buy him out?

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 11:53 AM
I mean that should include at least a second for us, I would hope. I would expect Goran gets bought out.

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-10-2022, 11:54 AM
Must be a 3 team trade or someone else is going to Toronto. Dragic for Thad doesn't work straight up.

John B
02-10-2022, 11:57 AM
Bagley to Detroit...The dream is dead lol

Fu%%%%%kkkkkkkkkk :bang:lol

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:57 AM
I guess we get some second rounders and buy him out?

I didn't think Thad was worth more than Dragic because several teams were after him pretty openly. I think there must be more pieces to this or a follow up trade to make to make sense. I'm betting on a bigger 3 team deal but we could be moving DW in a separate deal....hard to say...

Texas_Ranger
02-10-2022, 11:58 AM
ESPN Sources: The Spurs -- who are trading for Toronto's Goran Dragic -- are expected to negotiate a contract buyout with Dragic. Among the interested expected to be interested once he becomes a free agent: Dallas, Milwaukee, Chicago, Clippers.

ceperez
02-10-2022, 11:58 AM
Whoa...we traded Thad for dragic

Dragic is someone I always wanted as a Spur (ever since we drafted and traded him)!

mo7888
02-10-2022, 11:58 AM
Woj says we're buying him out? Maybe Toronto paid us a 2nd for him...idk..

Degoat
02-10-2022, 11:59 AM
I’m confused, Woj reported that will negotiate a buyout with Dragic but there’s gotta be more to it right?

Spursfanfromafar
02-10-2022, 11:59 AM
I didn't think Thad was worth more than Dragic because several teams were after him pretty openly. I think there must be more pieces to this or a follow up trade to make to make sense. I'm betting on a bigger 3 team deal but we could be moving DW in a separate deal....hard to say...

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491818635605721093

ceperez
02-10-2022, 11:59 AM
I suspect with Dragic, Spurs could be unloading Walker IV or even Derrick White!

Degoat
02-10-2022, 12:00 PM
Did the raptors bend us over again!? Lmao

mo7888
02-10-2022, 12:01 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1491818635605721093

I saw that..

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:01 PM
What are we getting?

mo7888
02-10-2022, 12:02 PM
What are we getting?

Good question..

dubross
02-10-2022, 12:02 PM
So basically we are doing Thad and Dragic a solid and not getting anything in return. smh nevermind

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1491819994635718656?s=21

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:03 PM
Lol at anyone upset about not getting that bum Bagley :lol

Texas_Ranger
02-10-2022, 12:03 PM
The Raptors are trading Dragic and protected 2022 first-round picks to the Spurs for Thad Young, Drew Eubanks and a 2022 second-round pick via Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Pick is protected 1-14 in 2022; 1-13 in 2023 and would turn into two seconds beyond that.

Dverde
02-10-2022, 12:03 PM
The rights to Nando de Colo?

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:03 PM
We got a 1st !!!

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:03 PM
Lonnie just posted some cryptic shit to his IG… makes ya wonder

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:04 PM
Oh damn. We got a 1st. Nice!

John B
02-10-2022, 12:04 PM
I’m confused, Woj reported that will negotiate a buyout with Dragic but there’s gotta be more to it right?

Increased our cap space some more plus maybe a SRP? We’re collecting for a big trade this Summer

Degoat
02-10-2022, 12:04 PM
We got a first!

LeBowen
02-10-2022, 12:04 PM
First and Eubanks gone!
As good as it gets.

Spursfanfromafar
02-10-2022, 12:05 PM
Wow. The Spurs got a Toronto 1-14 protected first rounder! - https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1491819994635718656 .. It looks like it will convey (they gave up the Detroit 2nd round pick though and Drew Eubanks). Good deal.

exstatic
02-10-2022, 12:06 PM
You can draw into the top 4, and we look to have a good chance now. Even if we drop into the 10,11,12 area, we still have a chance. You don’t leave that door open even a crack.

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:07 PM
Wright out here dealing assets like they bricks of raw. He keeps doubling up. I love it. That was the move that I was hoping for

John B
02-10-2022, 12:07 PM
The Raptors are trading Dragic and protected 2022 first-round picks to the Spurs for Thad Young, Drew Eubanks and a 2022 second-round pick via Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Pick is protected 1-14 in 2022; 1-13 in 2023 and would turn into two seconds beyond that.

Whoa Ewwbanks is gone?? First Forms now Ewwwbanks. Nooooooi!!!! :bang

Spursfanfromafar
02-10-2022, 12:07 PM
If the season ends today, the Spurs will get the 19th/20th pick for sure and somewhere between the 1st and 6th picks. Thats a good haul for a rebuilding season in which DJM made the All Stars and Thad Young. And a good haul out of the Derozan trade overall. (and by extension, the Nephew trade).

r0drig0lac
02-10-2022, 12:07 PM
nice job Mr. Wright.

exstatic
02-10-2022, 12:08 PM
We’ll never pull a FRP for Thad…:lol

SPURt
02-10-2022, 12:09 PM
When the Dragic news first broke I thought Pop was pushing to flip him for Porzingis and finally have his dream come true lol

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:11 PM
do y'all think we're done or are there more moves coming? We just opened up a roster spot and still got Sato

Degoat
02-10-2022, 12:11 PM
Can we flip Dragic to the mavs now?

cd98
02-10-2022, 12:11 PM
Whoa Ewwbanks is gone?? First Forms now Ewwwbanks. Nooooooi!!!! :bang

Who will the next whipping boy for Spurstalk be?

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-10-2022, 12:11 PM
Spurs being super busy, apparently talking to Charlotte for a Poeltl deal.

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:12 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491821939576348682

John B
02-10-2022, 12:13 PM
We’ll never pull a FRP for Thad…:lol

Yup that was pretty hustling there

So that George Hill, turned to nephew, then Demar = Keldon, Poeltl, now Dragic and a FRP?

BatManu20
02-10-2022, 12:13 PM
Can we flip Dragic to the mavs now?

No he’s going to be bought out.

Spurs9
02-10-2022, 12:13 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491821939576348682

I'll take it.

Degoat
02-10-2022, 12:14 PM
I would love that Charlotte deal!

Dverde
02-10-2022, 12:14 PM
I respect these moves. Looks like GM Wright is in charge. Now they’ll find a nice landing spot for Lonnie. They’ll take care of him.

Seventyniner
02-10-2022, 12:14 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491821939576348682

I was wondering if the Spurs were done dealing, but if they were thinking of trading Poeltl before the Young deal they might as well still trade him for the right return.

John B
02-10-2022, 12:14 PM
Who will the next whipping boy for Spurstalk be?

There’s still Lonnie and Poodle, yet :lol

LeBowen
02-10-2022, 12:15 PM
I'd love PJ Washington, haven't seen enough of Kai Jones.

KingKev
02-10-2022, 12:15 PM
We’ll never pull a FRP for Thad…:lol

it was more of a pickswap.

mo7888
02-10-2022, 12:15 PM
The Raptors are trading Dragic and protected 2022 first-round picks to the Spurs for Thad Young, Drew Eubanks and a 2022 second-round pick via Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Pick is protected 1-14 in 2022; 1-13 in 2023 and would turn into two seconds beyond that.

That is good work!

TimDunkem
02-10-2022, 12:16 PM
As much as I'd like to see Dragic play for us, you can't complain about dumping 2 turds and getting a FRP back. :tu

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:17 PM
I don't really want to trade Poeltl, but that seems like a very good return. How promising of a player is Kai Jones though?

Portnoy1000
02-10-2022, 12:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491821939576348682

I would not want to Trade Poetl unless i get something of great use back and pieces + Frp given the Spurs recent history of how they use draft picks ain't it

Degoat
02-10-2022, 12:18 PM
That potential Charlotte deal I bet is Jakob + Lonnie for PJ, Kai, and a 1st

Seventyniner
02-10-2022, 12:18 PM
Can Satoransky be aggregated in a trade?

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-10-2022, 12:18 PM
Charlotte's pick situation is complicated. They have a 2022 Pelicans pick that is lottery protected , otherwise turns into 2 seconds. Meh.

The first pick of theirs they could trade is 2027, unless they renegotiate some protections on already traded picks.

John B
02-10-2022, 12:19 PM
https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1491821939576348682

The Kai Jones dream is back :lol

Seventyniner
02-10-2022, 12:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs are discussing something like Satoransky to the Suns for Saric + Smith. Saves the Suns Saric's salary next year and lets the Spurs get a look at Smith before the offseason. Probably need a 2nd from them in return for eating that salary?

rankingtear
02-10-2022, 12:22 PM
I imagine SAS likes players like PJ in the mold of old Rudy and KBD, forward rim protectors. Kai is DJ boy i believe.

baseline bum
02-10-2022, 12:23 PM
Wow really nice to get a 2022 first for Young's tired ass. Assuming Toronto doesn't shit the bed the rest of the season. Gotta give Brian Wright huge props for his work this season, I didn't think there was any way in hell they'd get a first for Young.

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2022, 12:26 PM
I imagine SAS likes players like PJ in the mold of old Rudy and KBD, forward rim protectors. Kai is DJ boy i believe.

they need that more than anything. Problem is with Poeltl gone our only rim protector at C would be Zach Collins. Also PJ doesn't get enough boards, he grabs as many as Keldon. He'd fit though, kinda like a John Collins light and also still on a rookie contract. He and Keldon played together at Kentucky.

MannyIsGod
02-10-2022, 12:26 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs are discussing something like Satoransky to the Suns for Saric + Smith. Saves the Suns Saric's salary next year and lets the Spurs get a look at Smith before the offseason. Probably need a 2nd from them in return for eating that salary?

Zero chance