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boutons_deux
05-10-2022, 02:42 PM
btw, the forced-birthers, pushing for state-mandated vagina UNfreedom, say put the unwanted babies in foster care (buy they haven't and won't finance foster care sufficiently).

About 25000 kids "age out" of foster care every year because nobody wants them.

Meaning their childhood and teen years are without parenting.

about 200K kids lost at least one parent, sometime both parents, to the homicidal Trump-made Pandemic.

DMC
05-10-2022, 03:03 PM
Contraception, emergency contraception, treatment for miscarriage and other pregnancy related medical conditions.

Most of this is already offered free.

Winehole23
05-10-2022, 03:14 PM
Most of this is already offered free.most of this will soon be illegal in many states

Chucho
05-10-2022, 03:19 PM
birth is much more dangerous, (esp for non-white, poor women who die a 3x the rate of white women), than abortion.

Overall, USA is perennial League Champion in the league of industrial countries for highest perinatal death rate of babies and women). For-profit Capitalist health care is racist.

About 25% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, which means the upcoming misogynist Vagina Police will treat/grill devastated, miscarrying women as perpetrators of abortion crime until proven otherwise.


You're not a woman and there's no way you've had relations with a woman, and I'd feel safe betting that remains the story till you croak, so why are you worried about this?

Winehole23
05-10-2022, 03:21 PM
Ectopic pregnancies are 100% fatal to the mother, if not promptly treated. For the fetus they're not survivable in any case.

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boutons_deux
05-10-2022, 03:21 PM
One of the ideas thrown around by the ChristoFascists

is to test for pregnancy all child-bearing age women, all suspected of seeking abortion, who plan to travel out of state FOR ANY REASON.

The females would be pregnancy-tested again upon re-entering the state.

If not pregnant, they would probably have their body cavity deeply inspected, arrested, jailed, convicted of abortion.

Blake
05-10-2022, 03:37 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280451619_3167017686959439_1491617231040831609_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=VTqh5CtOUlYAX9P5YIO&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_x6IBPJ8B1VIYN5ScmqLRpxkoATnUOrHobA_k1GoIE 5A&oe=627F3158

Insert almost anything where pro life is and it works

Joseph Kony
05-10-2022, 03:49 PM
the political forum on ST is the best example of why we need abortion tbh. calf tats, qhris, etc, all should have been aborted

CosmicCowboy
05-10-2022, 04:25 PM
One of the ideas thrown around by the ChristoFascists

is to test for pregnancy all child-bearing age women, all suspected of seeking abortion, who plan to travel out of state FOR ANY REASON.

The females would be pregnancy-tested again upon re-entering the state.

If not pregnant, they would probably have their body cavity deeply inspected, arrested, jailed, convicted of abortion.

You are so full of shit, Boukaki.

Spurminator
05-10-2022, 04:37 PM
Apart from a merely intuitive gain in good will and voter registration, pretty weak sauce, tbh

You said I ducked. Glad we cleared that up.

As for whether you agree, well that's just like, your opinion man.


Public manifestation against public officials is democracy. Is it messy? Sure. Ineffective? Often. But it is a very basic form of accountability. For better and for worse it's feedback politicians and society needs. I never claimed it was effective and to be honest, I don't think it's very important whether concrete gains result from it.

No, do you think that's what people are trying to do?

For someone who doesn't care if the protest is productive you sure spend a lot of time arguing against someone saying it's counterproductive. You could have wasted a lot less time just saying "I don't care if it causes Republicans to win more elections, it's part of democracy and liberty."


Nothing remotely like that has happened. You're losing it over tealight vigils.

You're willing to cede women's rights in favor of voicing your opposition loudly, regardless of consequence. If women's rights are that important to you, you should be willing to do anything, including resisting the urge to feed your own appetite for catharsis. But you've made it clear effectiveness is not important so we just agree to disagree on that.

Trainwreck2100
05-10-2022, 04:43 PM
the political forum on ST is the best example of why we need abortion tbh. calf tats, qhris, etc, all should have been aborted

Or swallowed

Winehole23
05-10-2022, 04:58 PM
You said I ducked. Glad we cleared that up.

As for whether you agree, well that's just like, your opinion man.



For someone who doesn't care if the protest is productive you sure spend a lot of time arguing against someone saying it's counterproductive. You could have wasted a lot less time just saying "I don't care if it causes Republicans to win more elections, it's part of democracy and liberty."



You're willing to cede women's rights in favor of voicing your opposition loudly, regardless of consequence. If women's rights are that important to you, you should be willing to do anything, including resisting the urge to feed your own appetite for catharsis. But you've made it clear effectiveness is not important so we just agree to disagree on that.Some rather big assumptions about the future you're making there, as well as my intentions. I don't think the tealight vigils outside Supreme Court justices homes amount to ceding women's rights or forthcoming elections.

I envy your sense of certainty, but that all sounds like hyperbole to me.

Spurminator
05-10-2022, 05:23 PM
Some rather big assumptions about the future you're making there, as well as my intentions. I don't think the tealight vigils outside Supreme Court justices homes amount to ceding women's rights or forthcoming elections.

I envy your sense of certainty, but that all sounds like hyperbole to me.

I don't have to be certain to understand the risk/reward.

Where is the line? Why cede any ground in the optics battle for something you admit probably doesn't gain any legislative or judicial ground? It's selfish. It's release over results.

boutons_deux
05-10-2022, 05:52 PM
"McConnell downplays potential federal abortion ban"

... he's lying, just as he lied about wannabe-Prez Scott's policy proposals not being Repug proposals. Bitch was pissed that Scott let it out before the election.

boutons_deux
05-10-2022, 05:56 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280540508_405630105001903_5155904851383893117_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=f8_4Z0QMyFMAX8AXsie&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT8OHuZerGHDzOWwPiNldSIu_2bCXy7E0N2qMB0DgEhE Bw&oe=627EF787

boutons_deux
05-10-2022, 08:24 PM
"“Access to medication abortion is vital” and accounts for more than 50% of U.S. abortions today, says Ms. Nash.

Travel is expensive and stressful.

For someone in Louisiana looking for abortion access, the nearest state would be Illinois, a 1,300-mile round trip, she says.

Three-quarters of abortion patients have low incomes (https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2021/11/resources-journalists-15-things-consider-when-covering-abortion-supreme-court-and) and the majority are already parents,

so many would not be able to arrange for child care or afford to take time off from their jobs or get themselves to a far-off destination.

And yet travel is occurring.

Patients from Texas, which enacted a six-week ban last year (before many women may know they are pregnant), are journeying to as far as Washington and Maryland – with an estimated 1,400 traveling every month since the ban took effect in September.

Wait times at closer clinics in Colorado and Illinois can be three to four weeks."

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2022/0505/Blue-states-want-to-create-havens-for-abortion-rights.-Can-they

Sadistic cruelty (to women) Is The Point

Oregon spending $Ms to handle abortions from fucking Ida Ho

SnakeBoy
05-10-2022, 09:21 PM
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told Congress Tuesday that abortions are good for the economy.

DMC
05-10-2022, 09:33 PM
most of this will soon be illegal in many states

You think contraception and medical assistance after miscarriage and other pregnancy related issues will be illegal? Or is this a slippery slope scare tactic to "fire up the base"?

ChumpDumper
05-10-2022, 09:35 PM
Republicans are calling for both, dummy.


Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told Congress Tuesday that abortions are good for the economy.

:tu

Nathan89
05-10-2022, 09:41 PM
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Why are the barbarians afraid to clearly answer this question?

Nathan89
05-10-2022, 09:45 PM
Since the barbarians keep dancing around abortion questions it's safe to assume abortion isn't the winning issue that some would have you believe.

SnakeBoy
05-10-2022, 10:13 PM
Ectopic pregnancies are 100% fatal to the mother, if not promptly treated. For the fetus they're not survivable in any case.

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wHaTBoUT EcTOpIc PReGnAcIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

lol grandpa

ChumpDumper
05-10-2022, 10:23 PM
1524129549205655552

Why are the barbarians afraid to clearly answer this question?

Why are you afraid of women's making choices for themselves?

ChumpDumper
05-10-2022, 10:24 PM
wHaTBoUT EcTOpIc PReGnAcIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

lol grandpaWhy are you afraid to talk about them?

So much fear in Trumptard men here.

daboom1
05-10-2022, 10:37 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1524185018255425537?t

Sanger would be proud :tu

ChumpDumper
05-10-2022, 10:38 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1524185018255425537?t

How many unwanted black kids have you adopted, Qhris?

Winehole23
05-10-2022, 11:28 PM
I don't have to be certain to understand the risk/reward.

Where is the line? Why cede any ground in the optics battle for something you admit probably doesn't gain any legislative or judicial ground? It's selfish. It's release over results.Optics and the modal/median voter are more or less artificial constructs. Seems you presume to know that voter's disposition in advance, as well as what messages will win or lose his vote, what the optics will be for this more or less triangulated, statistical entity, You also presume that political success and failure depends on catering to him/her.

That's quite a few assumptions about political causality and the future. But if that were really the case, how did DJT win in 2016? Certainly not by worrying about optics or pandering to the median.

Winehole23
05-10-2022, 11:28 PM
dp

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:32 AM
Chuck Schumer doesn't seem particularly concerned about the optics.

(Probably because he wants Dems to lose and is willing to sacrifice women's rights for a fruitless but personally satisfying display of pique.)

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HemisfairArena
05-11-2022, 02:00 AM
How many unwanted black kids have you adopted, Qhris?

I asked you before Chump sucker and you never answer,,,how many illegals have you taken in since you vote democrat and your party supports open borders?

ChumpDumper
05-11-2022, 02:09 AM
I asked you before Chump sucker and you never answer,,,how many illegals have you taken in since you vote democrat and your party supports open borders?We don't support open borders.

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HemisfairArena
05-11-2022, 02:22 AM
We don't support open borders.

Sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

:lmao

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 08:25 AM
Obama and Biden are tougher than Trump on border enforcement. It's not even a contest.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 09:47 AM
young voters can make a difference, if they can be convinced Dems will fight for them, but they don't fit into median voter theory, so never mind


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSZpcdJXEAke4_3?format=png&name=small

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 09:50 AM
access to care for miscarriages has already taken a hit in Texas. women will die because of this.


Dr. Lauren Thaxton (https://uthealthaustin.org/directory/lauren-thaxton), an OB-GYN and assistant professor at the Dell Medical School at the University of Texas-Austin, has already heard about local patients who have been miscarrying, and couldn't get a pharmacy to fill their misoprostol prescription.


"The pharmacy has said, 'We don't know whether or not you might be using this medication for the purposes of abortion,'" she said.


Thaxton, who supervises the obstetrics-gynecology residents who have seen these patients, said sometimes the prescribing clinic will intervene, but it takes the patient longer to get the medication. Other times patients don't report the problem and miscarry on their own, she said, but without medication they risk additional bleeding.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/10/1097734167/in-texas-abortion-laws-inhibit-care-for-miscarriages

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 10:16 AM
we need to worry more -- a lot more! -- about the optics of petulant sidewalk chalk tantrums

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spurraider21
05-11-2022, 10:19 AM
You're not a woman and there's no way you've had relations with a woman, and I'd feel safe betting that remains the story till you croak, so why are you worried about this?
Why should white people have cared about slavery?

boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 11:53 AM
GOP leader: Republicans will 'move day one' to enact federal abortion law after Supreme Court ruling

Scalise (LA) confirmed on Wednesday that Republicans will "move day one" to enact a federal abortion law if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

https://www.rawstory.com/steve-scalise-abortion

boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 11:55 AM
if not enumerated in the Constitution, aka, originalism of the 18th century,

SCOTUS and Repugs will trash lots of stuff

mandated public education

income tax

same sex sex and same sex-marriage

etc.

boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 12:02 PM
Alito reached back nearly 1,000 years to weaponize ancient misogyny --

and it's nothing short of grotesque

Alito's use of ancient misogyny to undergird his arguments isn't disgraceful. In fact, it's nothing short of grotesque.

He goes all the way back to the 13th century

to cite Judge Henry de Bracton's "De Legibus et Consuetudinibus Angliae,"

a text about English law and custom (https://amesfoundation.law.harvard.edu/Bracton/index.html) that explained (https://books.google.com/books?id=MT47AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=%22struck+a+pregnant+woman,+or+has+given+her+po ison,+whereby+he+has+caused+an+abortion,+if+the+fo etus&source=bl&ots=nmDjfh2T_U&sig=ACfU3U3wapBXGNfQe2l8dfq6S6H9bZEUSg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS_OGX09f3AhUgKkQIHcM9Dh4Q6AF6BAgCEAM#v =onepage&q=%22struck%20a%20pregnant%20woman%2C%20or%20has%2 0given%20her%20poison%2C%20whereby%20he%20has%20ca used%20an%20abortion%2C%20if%20the%20foetus&f=false) that

if a person has "struck a pregnant woman, or has given her poison, whereby he has caused an abortion, if the foetus be already formed and animated … he commits homicide"

to argue that abortion has been considered murder for centuries.

https://www.rawstory.com/alito-reached-back-nearly-1000-years-to-weaponize-ancient-misogyny-and-it-is-nothing-short-of-grotesque

abortion was not wrong in the Catholic Church

"In the early Roman Catholic church,

abortion was permitted for male fetuses in the first 40 days of pregnancy and

for female fetuses in the first 80-90 days.

Not until 1588 did Pope Sixtus V declare all abortion murder, with excommunication as the punishment."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12340403/#:~:text=In%20the%20early%20Roman%20Catholic,with% 20excommunication%20as%20the%20punishment.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:14 PM
President Manchinema has spoken

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Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:17 PM
dystopia is already here

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Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:20 PM
it never was about states rights


After Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) suggested (https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-national-abortion-ban-impossible-what-matters/index.html) that a federal abortion ban was possible, a reporter asked Scalise if he supported stripping women's rights nationwide.


"I hope that the ruling comes out soon and I hope it's the ruling that was leaked," Scalise replied. "But if you think about where we are, we're a party who defends life and we would celebrate a ruling that allows elected leaders to defend life and debate in open public what those laws should be in every state and in Washington."


"Clearly, we will move day one if we get the majority.."
https://www.rawstory.com/steve-scalise-abortion/

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSfbT7uXEAMou-x?format=png&name=small

Dirks_Finale
05-11-2022, 12:45 PM
We don't support open borders.

Sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

:lol

ChumpDumper
05-11-2022, 12:47 PM
:lolExplain all the current detentions and deportations.

I'll wait.

boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 12:49 PM
President Manchinema has spoken

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was all bullshit, since Dems have only 48 max. lots of Dem senators are against annulling Trash's 2017 tax cut scam for the oligarchy

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:50 PM
Explain all the current detentions and deportations.

I'll wait.Record setting detentions and deportations. Puts Trump in the shade.

Obama did too.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2022, 12:52 PM
Record setting detentions and deportations. Puts Trump in the shade.

Obama did too.
Trumptards always resort to lies.

Always.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 12:58 PM
Trumptards always resort to lies.

Always.In another thread, CC said 2 million people a month were crossing the border illegally. That's 24 million per year.

Perhaps it was an honest misstatement, but he never acknowledged the goof.

boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 01:35 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280357813_406191084945805_5755004673284039351_n.jp g?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SDSWzb9C0ZcAX-Cjvd4&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT8HjzxzKcI1HoTFpjWb-bxKBj9XASwNKtPdQr5XBf4UrA&oe=6280A7A0

ChumpDumper
05-11-2022, 02:07 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280357813_406191084945805_5755004673284039351_n.jp g?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SDSWzb9C0ZcAX-Cjvd4&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT8HjzxzKcI1HoTFpjWb-bxKBj9XASwNKtPdQr5XBf4UrA&oe=6280A7A0That's terrorism, right?

Spurminator
05-11-2022, 03:07 PM
Optics and the modal/median voter are more or less artificial constructs. Seems you presume to know that voter's disposition in advance, as well as what messages will win or lose his vote, what the optics will be for this more or less triangulated, statistical entity, You also presume that political success and failure depends on catering to him/her.

That's quite a few assumptions about political causality and the future. But if that were really the case, how did DJT win in 2016? Certainly not by worrying about optics or pandering to the median.

Look you can call it assumptions all you want but at worst I'm doing as much assuming as you are. That's why it's a risk reward question. Risk = losing seats and therefore more ground in the battle for reproductive rights. Reward = None, by your own admission.

As you should know by now, things don't work the same for Republicans as they do Democrats. They never have. The middle is generally more turned off by angry leftists than they are by angry right wingers. Maybe it's a subconscious reaction to all the flags. But you might as well posit that Democrats can win a Presidential election with a retarded TV celebrity because it worked for Donald Trump.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 03:10 PM
As you should know by now, things don't work the same for Republicans as they do Democrats. They never have. The middle is generally more turned off by angry leftists than they are by angry right wingers. Maybe it's a subconscious reaction to all the flags. But you might as well posit that Democrats can win a Presidential election with a retarded TV celebrity because it worked for Donald Trump.I didn't, how dishonest. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Energizing people who don't normally vote might be another pathway to victory. Basing electoral strategy on cautiousness around sensitivities imputed to modal voters might be self-limiting.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 03:18 PM
Gotta say, the connection between tealight vigils and terrorism isn't intuitive to me, can you flesh that out?

Spurminator
05-11-2022, 03:22 PM
I didn't, how dishonest.

:lol GMAFB I said "you might as well."

Dishonest, Jesus dude.


There's more than one way to skin a cat. Energizing people who don't normally vote might be another pathway to victory. Basing electoral strategy on cautiousness around sensitivities imputed to modal voters might be self-limiting.

I think you're far overestimating non-voters' interest in, or awareness of, people protesting outside of Samuel Alito's home. Most of them probably can't even tell you who Samuel Alito is. If you think this is a strong outreach tactic for non-voters, I don't know what to tell you.

Spurminator
05-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Gotta say, the connection between tealight vigils and terrorism isn't intuitive to me, can you flesh that out?

You want me to explain a connection I never made? Speaking of dishonest.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 03:48 PM
:lol GMAFB I said "you might as well."

Dishonest, Jesus dude. I'll stick with dishonest, there's a solid handful of bad faith, more or less hysterical exaggerations of my takes in the past few pages.

-- that I'm encouraging cathartic violence
-- that I'm willing to sacrifice women's rights for petty catharsis
-- that I want to see Democrats lose elections
-- that pointing out the artificiality and antiseptic wonkiness of median voter theory means I want Democrats to run crass reality show hosts for national office


I think you're far overestimating non-voters' interest in, or awareness of, people protesting outside of Samuel Alito's home. Most of them probably can't even tell you who Samuel Alito is. If you think this is a strong outreach tactic for non-voters, I don't know what to tell you.I don't think this is a strong outreach effort, I've said as much upstream. That's another more or less dishonest take.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 03:51 PM
You want me to explain a connection I never made? Speaking of dishonest.Explain it to me as if you were the median voter. You're the one who suggested that person would associate tealight vigils with terrorism and defeat any possibility of legislative success thereby.

Spurminator
05-11-2022, 04:04 PM
I'll stick with dishonest, there's a solid handful of bad faith, more or less hysterical exaggerations of my takes in the past few pages.

-- that I'm encouraging cathartic violence

Never said that.


-- that I'm willing to sacrifice women's rights for petty catharsis

Not sure what other conclusion I should come to. You admit this may be a counterproductive and ineffective tactic but you still think it should be done.


-- that I want to see Democrats lose elections

Never said that.


-- that pointing out the artificiality and antiseptic wonkiness of median voter theory means I want Democrats to run crass reality show hosts for national office

Never said that either. The problem isn't my honesty, it's your reading comprehension.


I don't think this is a strong outreach effort, I've said as much upstream. That's another more or less dishonest take.

Then why did you even bring it up in the context of this conversation?


Explain it to me as if you were the median voter. You're the one who suggested that person would associate tealight vigils with terrorism and defeat any possibility of legislative success thereby.

No, I said Republicans would paint them as terrorists, and you'd probably agree with me on that if you weren't on such a stubbornly boneheaded argumentative streak right now.

And I also never said it would "destroy any possibility of legislative success." This whole time my position has been that the possibility is greater than zero that it would cede legislative ground.

Winehole23
05-11-2022, 04:16 PM
It's understandable you're distancing yourself from your sly distortions and misrepresentations. They don't flatter you.

daboom1
05-11-2022, 05:23 PM
https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/1524485970640490497?t

Manchin

SnakeBoy
05-12-2022, 12:13 AM
As you should know by now, things don't work the same for Republicans as they do Democrats. They never have. The middle is generally more turned off by angry leftists than they are by angry right wingers. Maybe it's a subconscious reaction to all the flags. But you might as well posit that Democrats can win a Presidential election with a retarded TV celebrity because it worked for Donald Trump.

Angry libs are triggered, angry repugs are patriotic.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2022, 01:05 AM
Angry libs are triggered, angry repugs are patriotic.Angry Republicans are traitors who want to overthrow the US system of government.

That's you.

HemisfairArena
05-12-2022, 01:34 AM
:tu:tu:tu

Bill protecting abortion rights fails to advance in Senate (yahoo.com) (https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-protecting-abortion-rights-fails-to-advance-in-senate-214225798.html)

daboom1
05-12-2022, 02:10 AM
:tu:tu:tu

Bill protecting abortion rights fails to advance in Senate (yahoo.com) (https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-protecting-abortion-rights-fails-to-advance-in-senate-214225798.html)

Manchin

RandomGuy
05-12-2022, 10:51 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280357813_406191084945805_5755004673284039351_n.jp g?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SDSWzb9C0ZcAX-Cjvd4&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT8HjzxzKcI1HoTFpjWb-bxKBj9XASwNKtPdQr5XBf4UrA&oe=6280A7A0

There is a SCOTUS ruling from the 90s that says protesting at abortion providers houses is protected free speech.

So, hooray first amendment.

Winehole23
05-12-2022, 10:56 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSkUvU3VUAAV-M_?format=jpg&name=small

daboom1
05-12-2022, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1524815597292462080?t

daboom1
05-12-2022, 03:21 PM
bRGlasuIxAc

What a legend :lol

boutons_deux
05-12-2022, 08:08 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/280247587_407150834849830_652956765875192249_n.jpg ?stp=dst-jpg_s1080x2048&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=WuyrjoUeADIAX9tglUv&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT9lz9AVfNr0oZU9oqnXxc_LRK710oD7lZfBqg3V6Xhb Uw&oe=6281EA0A

Dirks_Finale
05-12-2022, 08:18 PM
Angry Republicans are traitors who want to overthrow the US system of government.

That's you.

Yeah, that's why they all forgot to bring the thousands of guns they own to the iNsUrReCtIoN. :lol

DMC
05-12-2022, 08:26 PM
It's funny to watch the narrative crew turn on each other with "putting words in your mouth" retorts and "putting words in my mouth" denials. Now you see how retarded you folks are. You can't debate for shit.

SnakeBoy
05-12-2022, 08:41 PM
"I've had threats, I have had nasty letters, texts to me with my personal address, the names of my children," Psaki told a group of reporters Thursday at a breakfast meeting sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor.
"It crosses lines, and you know, that's when it becomes a little scary," said Psaki

ElNono
05-12-2022, 10:20 PM
Yeah, that's why they all forgot to bring the thousands of guns they own to the iNsUrReCtIoN. :lol

Lonnie Coffman of Alabama: Police found multiple firearms and weapons in Coffman’s possession. Coffman’s truck, which he had parked in the vicinity of the Capitol on the morning of Jan. 6, was packed with weaponry including a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun, each loaded, according to court documents. In addition, the truck held hundreds of rounds of ammunition, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, a crossbow with bolts, machetes, camouflage smoke devices, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails.

Court records and video surveillance footage show that Coffman, who had ties to militia groups, parked the vehicle near the Capitol at 9:15 a.m. that day. The documents say that after he got out of his pickup truck at 9:20 a.m., he joined a crowd of people who walked directly to the Capitol building.

He was detained later that evening as an unnamed woman was driving him back toward his truck. Police questioned Coffman and searched him, finding two more handguns on his person. None of the weapons were registered, documents state.

Guy Reffitt of Texas: Reffitt was charged with bringing a handgun onto Capitol grounds. Court documents showed that Reffitt, reported in court documents to be a member of the militia group Three Percenters, told his family he brought his gun with him and that he and others "stormed the Capitol."

Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland: Alberts brought his handgun onto Capitol grounds. An officer saw that Alberts had a gun on his hip and alerted fellow officers. When Alberts tried to flee, officers detained him and recovered the loaded handgun along with a separate magazine.

The total number of people who carried firearms with them that day may not ever be fully accounted for because the majority of those involved in the siege were not arrested on-site but were tracked down by law enforcement days, weeks and months later.

It’s also worth noting that the definition of "armed" is not legally limited to guns — it refers to any weapon used for defense or offense and used as a means of protection. Other items used as weapons Jan. 6 included bats, crutches, flagpoles, skateboards, fire extinguishers and chemical sprays.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/07/14/some-jan-6-capitol-rioters-were-armed-guns-documents-show/7963993002/


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PeAcEfUl PrOtEsT yO!

Winehole23
05-13-2022, 12:07 AM
1524930481040637953

spurraider21
05-13-2022, 12:16 AM
It's funny to watch the narrative crew turn on each other with "putting words in your mouth" retorts and "putting words in my mouth" denials. Now you see how retarded you folks are. You can't debate for shit.
No take

Winehole23
05-13-2022, 12:28 AM
No takeST is his soap opera. it's all petty personal shit, inflated to the nth. petty as it might have sounded, me and Spurminator were at least bickering about topical shit

DMC
05-13-2022, 01:57 PM
No take

That was my take. I only come here for the lulz

DMC
05-13-2022, 01:58 PM
ST is his soap opera. it's all petty personal shit, inflated to the nth. petty as it might have sounded, me and Spurminator were at least bickering about topical shit

He says by making a personal insult :lol

Please continue the in-fighting.

pgardn
05-13-2022, 02:28 PM
That was my take. I only come here for the lulz

No you dont.
You get totally embarrassed and come back to try to reclaim some sort of dignity.
Its not working.

ChumpDumper
05-13-2022, 02:32 PM
Just remember DMC felt so destroyed after being corrected on word usage that he had to create multiple narratives about me as excuses to "ignore" me.

He's fragile.:lol

Winehole23
05-13-2022, 02:41 PM
His one topical take that I recall in this thread was that Alito's draft opinion turned on states rights.

DMC
05-14-2022, 01:31 AM
No you dont.
You get totally embarrassed and come back to try to reclaim some sort of dignity.
Its not working.

That's your pride fucking with you, son. Let it go.

Ef-man
05-14-2022, 08:03 AM
Just remember DMC felt so destroyed after being corrected on word usage that he had to create multiple narratives about me as excuses to "ignore" me.

He's fragile.:lol

Remember that time when a rail bridge was blown up by the Ukrainians and Chuncko argued that it was shot down? Good times. :lol

Just like Alito's mental gymnastics involving 13th century law to overturn Roe v Wade. Next thing you know, people will be tried for witchery and use of magic.

Spurminator
05-14-2022, 10:55 AM
That was my take. I only come here for the lulz

Your take in the past has also been that ST libs are an echo chamber who never have anything critical to offer towards each other.

Seems to me like you just come here to delude yourself into thinking you're special, and adjust your "takes" accordingly.

It's sad. I'm sorry you need this so badly.

pgardn
05-14-2022, 10:59 AM
That's your pride fucking with you, son. Let it go.


The hypocrisy meter broke again.

Winehole23
05-14-2022, 11:11 AM
His one topical take that I recall in this thread was that Alito's draft opinion turned on states rights.the most cursory scan of Alito's draft opinion deflates it

Winehole23
05-14-2022, 12:11 PM
1525486054735761408

1525486057717891073

1525486060523888646

Winehole23
05-14-2022, 12:12 PM
1525489105156689928

daboom1
05-14-2022, 01:19 PM
"What do we want?"

"Dead babies!"

"When do we want it?"

"Now!!!"

DMC
05-14-2022, 01:32 PM
Your take in the past has also been that ST libs are an echo chamber who never have anything critical to offer towards each other.

Seems to me like you just come here to delude yourself into thinking you're special, and adjust your "takes" accordingly.

It's sad. I'm sorry you need this so badly.

"putting words in my mouth" isn't critical, it's just bickering. It's been established that one of you is a "feel good at all costs" drama whore and the other is a "win at all costs" shill.

koriwhat
05-14-2022, 01:34 PM
LMFAO

Winehole23
05-14-2022, 02:01 PM
"putting words in my mouth" isn't critical, it's just bickering. It's been established that one of you is a "feel good at all costs" drama whore and the other is a "win at all costs" shill.No topical take, no take even on the conversation referenced.

Towelsnapping.gif

Spurminator
05-14-2022, 04:30 PM
"putting words in my mouth" isn't critical, it's just bickering. It's been established that one of you is a "feel good at all costs" drama whore and the other is a "win at all costs" shill.

Selective quoting of a larger topical discussion doesn't make your try-hard armchair psychology any less pathetic, and besides your friend koriwhat I'm not sure who you think is buying it (or cares).

You should stick to pretending to just be here for the trolling.

DMC
05-14-2022, 06:44 PM
No topical take, no take even on the conversation referenced.

Towelsnapping.gif

Don't worry, it won't hurt you. Maybe you should sit out a while.

DMC
05-14-2022, 06:45 PM
Selective quoting of a larger topical discussion doesn't make your try-hard armchair psychology any less pathetic, and besides your friend koriwhat I'm not sure who you think is buying it (or cares).

You should stick to pretending to just be here for the trolling.

You seem to care. You really do.

Spurminator
05-15-2022, 01:29 AM
You seem to care. You really do.

Responds to conversation he's not involved in.

Gets response.

"lol you care lol"

I'm sorry you have no social life.

Winehole23
05-15-2022, 02:13 AM
You should stick to pretending to just be here for the trolling.check

Winehole23
05-15-2022, 02:14 AM
Don't worry, it won't hurt you. Maybe you should sit out a while.Didn't hurt. Not going anywhere, keep wishing though.

Winehole23
05-15-2022, 03:05 AM
1525486054735761408

1525486057717891073

1525486060523888646Lazy promiscuous bitches, tho

RandomGuy
05-16-2022, 12:51 PM
1525486054735761408

1525486057717891073

1525486060523888646Lazy promiscuous bitches, tho

The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty, violence and greed.

The dishonesty and greed from the evangelical leadership pushed this previous non-issue as an issue because they thought they could benefit from it. They did, and the violence of forced birth is laid out rather clearly here.

I try to be wary of my own confirmation bias, but it is hard not to see it here.

boutons_deux
05-16-2022, 08:09 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281133862_3171785189816022_1407780055996330892_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=d4JzZrsbqmcAX_XzlQm&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AT-j40uwNjny-AdtUTpZIa5EjGxvgsAQjtGtgSdquzR6qQ&oe=62889C23

boutons_deux
05-16-2022, 09:38 PM
Starbucks will cover travel expenses for employees seeking abortions.

In a memo on Monday, the company said it wanted to ensure that its employees had “access to quality health care.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/16/business/starbucks-abortion-travel-expenses.html

Nathan89
05-18-2022, 06:05 PM
1527017894588170240

Long overdue for the lights to be shined on these barbarians.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2022, 06:09 PM
1527017894588170240

Long overdue for the lights to be shined on these barbarians.

Do we need to save every frozen embryo?

Yes or no.

Let's shine some light on what you actually think/

spurraider21
05-18-2022, 06:18 PM
Long overdue for the lights to be shined on these barbarians.
lol what light is being shined? were you unaware that people were ok with abortions until just now?

Winehole23
05-19-2022, 11:17 AM
well before Dobbs, abortion restrictions have had a chilling effect on medical care for miscarriage


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTIMuqWVEAgGHjz?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/roe-dobbs-abortion-ban-reproductive-medicine-alabama.html

SpursforSix
05-19-2022, 11:24 AM
I listen to NPR quite a bit. They were discussing Roe v Wade and brought on a woman who was head of some non-profit (no idea what the name was). Anyway, she had seven unwanted pregnancies and delivered all of the babies. They never got into how she ended up in that position. So I don't know if some of these (or all of these) were rape situations. Her goal was to make abortion more accessible. But it seemed like a terrible guest to bring on to try to make a point.

Thread
05-19-2022, 11:45 AM
Murder for convenience is the sure pathway to a room with no doors for eternity.

Xevious
05-19-2022, 12:01 PM
I listen to NPR quite a bit. They were discussing Roe v Wade and brought on a woman who was head of some non-profit (no idea what the name was). Anyway, she had seven unwanted pregnancies and delivered all of the babies. They never got into how she ended up in that position. So I don't know if some of these (or all of these) were rape situations. Her goal was to make abortion more accessible. But it seemed like a terrible guest to bring on to try to make a point.
Just because you believe something should be an option for others doesn't mean you want it for yourself. I personally would not want or recommend that any family member of mine get an abortion. But I don't pretend to know everybody else's social and/or medical situations and don't think it's my place to make those decisions for others.

SpursforSix
05-19-2022, 12:21 PM
Just because you believe something should be an option for others doesn't mean you want it for yourself. I personally would not want or recommend that any family member of mine get an abortion. But I don't pretend to know everybody else's social and/or medical situations and don't think it's my place to make those decisions for others.

100%. It's not my body or situation and not my place to tell someone else what to do.
I just thought she was a terrible guest to bring on the air to support women's choice. Especially since they never got into the circumstances of her seven children. Nor did they ask her if she regretted having any of them.
It was pretty weak from NPR in my opinion. I don't know the stats but I'm pretty sure that the large majority of unwanted pregnancies are due to the guy and/or girl just being irresponsible.

Winehole23
05-19-2022, 01:43 PM
pro-life clown car


"In places like Washington D.C.," fetuses are "burned to power the light's of the city's homes and streets," claimed Catherine Glenn Foster (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5015779/user-clip-anti-choicer-claims-fetuses-power-lights), who had, just minutes before, sworn not to lie under oath. The GOP-summoned witness let loose the wild and utterly false accusation that municipal electrical companies are powered by incinerated fetuses.


"The next time you turn on the light, think of the incinerators," she said
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/19/fetus-powered-street-lamps-ramp-up-outrageous-anti-abortion-lies-ahead-of-roes-demise/

Winehole23
05-19-2022, 01:53 PM
1527343770240311296

daboom1
05-20-2022, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/1527730475074297859?t

Outstanding, now do Joe.

Ef-man
05-20-2022, 06:24 PM
https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/1527730475074297859?t

Outstanding, now do Joe.

The same Cordileone that has protected pedophiles in the church by not releasing an official list of clergy known to be credibly accused of child sexual abuse. :lmao

Trill Clinton
05-20-2022, 08:15 PM
1527804498957287424

daboom1
05-20-2022, 08:22 PM
1527804498957287424

:tu

ChumpDumper
05-21-2022, 02:45 AM
:tuHow would you personally correct a population for race, Qhris?

HemisfairArena
05-21-2022, 03:25 AM
How would you personally correct a population for race, Qhris?

Why does a population need to be corrected for race?,,,,it seems the only country doing this is us. Why do you think that is?

Trill Clinton
05-21-2022, 07:39 AM
Why does a population need to be corrected for race?,,,,it seems the only country doing this is us. Why do you think that is?

Because the country was built on white supremacy?

DMC
05-21-2022, 10:25 AM
1527804498957287424

I already covered that. The AA population has a higher IMR nationally, therefore areas with higher AA populations will have a higher overall IMR. It's simple math.

pgardn
05-21-2022, 10:45 AM
I already covered that. The AA population has a higher IMR nationally, therefore areas with higher AA populations will have a higher overall IMR. It's simple math.

Why does the AA population have a higher IMR nationally?
This bypasses the bullshit. Does IMR have any correlation with socioeconomic status? Even within a “race” or whatever you want to muddle on about? Is there a socioeconomic correlation just within the Caucasian population? Geographic location, rural or urban?

pgardn
05-21-2022, 10:47 AM
So the basic red Trumper red team answer is blacks are stupid and just don’t care. Just lazy about it.

ChumpDumper
05-21-2022, 10:58 AM
Why does a population need to be corrected for race?,,,,it seems the only country doing this is us. Why do you think that is?

Does it need to be corrected for race?

Explain why.

Winehole23
05-21-2022, 11:49 AM
1527804498957287424"if one removes AAs from consideration, there is no problem.

"ergo, AAs are the problem"

Thread
05-21-2022, 12:02 PM
Murder for convenience is the sure pathway to a room with no doors for eternity.

daboom1
05-21-2022, 12:03 PM
So the basic red Trumper red team answer is blacks are stupid and just don’t care. Just lazy about it.

Sad but true.

ChumpDumper
05-21-2022, 12:11 PM
:lol All the ST Trumptards are going full racist now.

We knew all along.

pgardn
05-21-2022, 12:15 PM
Sad but true.

Why did God make them like this?
Or they just chose the devil instead of Christ?

Explain your thoughts on this.
There are also master debaters on this board who can help you with your reasoning.
So no fear. Go ahead.

Thread
05-21-2022, 12:56 PM
SUPREME COURT (https://www.foxnews.com/category/politics/judiciary/supreme-court)
Published May 21, 2022 7:35am EDT


Supreme Court could rule on Roe v. Wade on Monday, as Biden admin embraces violence after decision

The Biden admin is preparing for nationwide violence after the Supreme Court issues a decision on Roe v. Wade


~~~

daboom1
05-21-2022, 01:24 PM
SUPREME COURT (https://www.foxnews.com/category/politics/judiciary/supreme-court)
Published May 21, 2022 7:35am EDT


Supreme Court could rule on Roe v. Wade on Monday, as Biden admin embraces violence after decision

The Biden admin is preparing for nationwide violence after the Supreme Court issues a decision on Roe v. Wade


~~~




I bet they are prepared to launch nationwide violence FBI style. Better that than dead babies imo

boutons_deux
05-21-2022, 04:55 PM
:lol All the ST Trumptards are going full racist now.

We knew all along.

there was NEVER any doubt

Trill Clinton
05-21-2022, 05:36 PM
:lol All the ST Trumptards are going full racist now.

We knew all along.

They can't help themselves

daboom1
05-23-2022, 02:55 AM
Supreme Court opinions coming tomorrow morning

Winehole23
05-23-2022, 04:19 AM
They can't help themselvesThey're telling on themselves.

They can't help it. They need someone to piss on to feel good about themselves.

SnakeBoy
05-24-2022, 04:47 PM
4%

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spurraider21
05-24-2022, 05:23 PM
I already covered that. The AA population has a higher IMR nationally, therefore areas with higher AA populations will have a higher overall IMR. It's simple math.
you're so close!

why does the AA population have a higher IMR nationally?

Winehole23
05-25-2022, 01:25 PM
Cf., tealight vigils


Police said in a statement that they are actively investigating the fire, which they believe to be intentional.
https://oilcity.news/community/city/2022/05/25/photos-police-investigate-suspicious-fire-at-caspers-wellspring-health-access-abortion-clinic/

SnakeBoy
05-25-2022, 04:38 PM
https://media.tenor.com/images/c033655e2e00c7eb02ace52bde9883e4/tenor.gif

DMC
05-25-2022, 04:46 PM
"if one removes AAs from consideration, there is no problem.

"ergo, AAs are the problem"

More dishonest narrative from the bot.

It's a fact that blacks have a much higher infant mortality rate than whites or other races in the US. This doesn't change based on the state or local or federal government parties in charge. It doesn't change based on income level. It's just a fact. If you're willing to ignore a 10.9/1000 IMR with black babies because the state has a low overall IMR (meaning offset by the relative survival rate success of white babies), then don't start political tears to flowing when the higher IMR comes to surface because the demographics of that state vs other states are more weighted to blacks than whites.

Of course you pretend he's saying blacks are the problem. You already know that's a blatant lie though, and simple math proves it. If you take away the highest IMR demographic (nationally) then you get an IMR right on par with other states based purely on the population demographic percentages. Instead of treating it like a medical mystery that needs to be resolved, you treat it like a political football.

DMC
05-25-2022, 04:47 PM
you're so close!

why does the AA population have a higher IMR nationally?

This is the medical mystery. It doesn't seem to follow income though or color of treating physician.

DMC
05-25-2022, 05:04 PM
"you're so close!" -Philo

:lol as if you have the answer

boutons_deux
06-02-2022, 04:45 PM
Abused nuns reveal stories of rape, forced abortions

Another scandal is engulfing the Catholic Church.

At a time when the Vatican has taken its most concrete steps to address a long ordeal with sex abuse and coverups,

a growing chorus of nuns is speaking out about the

suffering they have endured

at the hands of the priesthood,

including rape,

forced abortion,

emotional abuse and

labor exploitation.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/abused-nuns-reveal-stories-of-rape-forced-abortions

Winehole23
06-02-2022, 11:15 PM
More dishonest narrative from the bot.

It's a fact that blacks have a much higher infant mortality rate than whites or other races in the US. This doesn't change based on the state or local or federal government parties in charge. It doesn't change based on income level. It's just a fact. If you're willing to ignore a 10.9/1000 IMR with black babies because the state has a low overall IMR (meaning offset by the relative survival rate success of white babies), then don't start political tears to flowing when the higher IMR comes to surface because the demographics of that state vs other states are more weighted to blacks than whites.

Of course you pretend he's saying blacks are the problem. You already know that's a blatant lie though, and simple math proves it. If you take away the highest IMR demographic (nationally) then you get an IMR right on par with other states based purely on the population demographic percentages. Instead of treating it like a medical mystery that needs to be resolved, you treat it like a political football.African -Americans are part of the US population. You can't just bracket then off and pretend we're doing great.

SnakeBoy
06-06-2022, 06:13 PM
1522038756911497216

:corn:

TSA
06-08-2022, 12:03 PM
Two people familiar with the investigation said the initial evidence indicates that the man was angry about the leaked draft of an opinion by the Supreme Court signaling that the court is preparing to overturn Roe. v. Wade, the 49-year-old decision that guaranteed the constitutional right to have an abortion.


Police were apparently notified that the person might pose a threat to the justice, but it was not immediately clear who provided the initial tip, these people said.
The man was arrested at about 1:50 a.m. today, Supreme Court spokeswoman Patricia McCabe said in a statement confirming the arrest.
Montgomery County police responded to a call for service early Wednesday morning in the area of Kavanaugh’s Chevy Chase home, where officers took a man into custody and transported him to a local police station, said Shiera Goff, a spokeswoman for the department.
This man was in the area some time between 1:14 and 1:45 a.m. Wednesday and authorities believe this person “came in from out of state with the intent to kill Kavanaugh,” Goff said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/08/kavanaugh-threat-arrest-justice/

ChumpDumper
06-08-2022, 12:09 PM
His block is now a gun free zone.

Winehole23
06-08-2022, 12:11 PM
His block is now a gun free zone.soft target, tbh.

how will good guys with gunz stop the next killer?

ChumpDumper
06-08-2022, 12:14 PM
Why doesn't he live on a military base?

Winehole23
06-08-2022, 12:20 PM
Great article.

Congress can solve judicial supremacy by creating positive rights in law, circumscribing a revanchist Supreme Court, and making it enforce the people's rights against recalcitrant states, like we did during the Reconstruction.

Congress needs to get over its fear of "divisive politics" and use its power to establish freedom and the public good, instead of fund raising on fear and punting to the Supreme Court.


If the Court is today eviscerating those very constitutional commitments through its case law, Congress should enact or amend federal statutes to advance a different understanding of a nation built on democratic justice. It should reshape the Court’s ability to intervene in these disputes, including by restricting the Court’s authority to set aside federal legislation. And it should conscript the Court in enforcing federal commitments when resistant state officials brazenly declare that the national government has no jurisdiction to protect Americans from their parochial rule.


The thing stopping Congress from reversing each wrongheaded decision the Court issues this month therefore isn’t the Constitution. It’s our failure to demand more from our elected representatives.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/supreme-court-power-overrule-congress/661212/

TSA
06-08-2022, 12:41 PM
https://twitter.com/karol/status/1534538298458357763

https://twitter.com/karol/status/1534588243919917056

Th'Pusher
06-08-2022, 12:41 PM
His block is now a gun free zone.

Tsa and Mitch McConnell pleading for gun rights to be infringed.

Thread
06-08-2022, 12:45 PM
https://twitter.com/karol/status/1534538298458357763

https://twitter.com/karol/status/1534588243919917056


Though it was Jake when Madonna threatened to blow up the White House the day President Trump moved in.

Winehole23
06-08-2022, 03:20 PM
Hmm

[https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1534628906036350976?s=20&t=Q-YDfg88DSEJEqX9Tf8uNQ]

Winehole23
06-14-2022, 01:17 PM
Pro-life policy ends at birth because it isn't really about life, it's about social control, for which pitching families deliberately into economic distress is expedient.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVOLcyMWQAEiNW2?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23
06-15-2022, 12:21 AM
Pikuach nefesh, saving a life trumps religious law in the Jewish tradition. Ergo, strict abortion bans interfere with the free exercise of religion.


When life is involved, all Sabbath laws may be suspended to safeguard the health of the individual, the principle being pikkuah nefesh doheh Shabbat–[rescuing a] life in danger takes precedence over the Sabbath.https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/saving-a-life-pikuach-nefesh/

1536790789321367554

ElNono
06-15-2022, 04:05 AM
Pikuach nefesh, saving a life trumps religious law in the Jewish tradition. Ergo, strict abortion bans interfere with the free exercise of religion.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/saving-a-life-pikuach-nefesh/

1536790789321367554


Plus, it's only a matter of time somebody claims their religion allows abortions and their State is infringing on their religious rights...

Nonostradamus hits again... :wow:wow

Th'Pusher
06-15-2022, 06:25 AM
Nonostradamus hits again... :wow:wow

Was sure it would have been the church of satan, but it’s the jews coming through in the clutch.

Winehole23
06-20-2022, 01:17 PM
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Winehole23
06-22-2022, 10:55 AM
Pikuach nefesh, saving a life trumps religious law in the Jewish tradition. Ergo, strict abortion bans interfere with the free exercise of religion.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/saving-a-life-pikuach-nefesh/

1536790789321367554WAIT GUISE, JUDAISM ISN'T A REAL RELIGION LIKE XIANITY -- IT HAS NO CORE BELIEFS

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Winehole23
06-22-2022, 10:57 AM
(So much for "Judeo-Christian" tradition when Judaism claims free exercise privileges.)

Winehole23
06-22-2022, 11:00 AM
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SnakeBoy
06-23-2022, 05:30 PM
1540060171728084992

spurraider21
06-23-2022, 05:46 PM
(So much for "Judeo-Christian" tradition when Judaism claims free exercise privileges.)
thats because "judeo-christian" just means non brown people

boutons_deux
06-23-2022, 05:49 PM
Coming to America soon. Foetus was dead but they wouldn't operate until the mother was near death.

U.S. woman denied abortion in Malta to be airlifted out amid fears for her life

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/23/malta-andrea-prudente-pregnant-abortion-appeal

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:14 AM
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Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:20 AM
Link to the decision embedded here

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ducks
06-24-2022, 09:25 AM
Almost half the states are expected to outlaw or severely restrict abortion as a result of the Supreme Court’s decision. Other states plan to maintain more liberal rules governing the termination of pregnancies.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:26 AM
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Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:27 AM
Women will be denied lifesaving medical care and die because of this.

Utterly barbaric.

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 09:31 AM
Christian Sharia now official

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 09:34 AM
Now Uncle Thomas said he's moving his sights to taking down the right to contraception, the right for gays to have sex, and gay marriage.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:37 AM
Now Uncle Thomas said he's moving his sights to taking down the right to contraception, the right for gays to have sex, and gay marriage.p.119

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:37 AM
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Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:39 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWBhQU_WAAAGymo?format=jpg&name=medium

Medvedenko
06-24-2022, 09:41 AM
USA is going backwards.....sad.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:42 AM
"Whatever the exact scope of the coming laws, one result of today’s decision is certain: the curtailment of women’s rights, and of their status as free and equal citizens."

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 09:43 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWBhQU_WAAAGymo?format=jpg&name=medium

That house ###### is basically telling red states to file suits in those three cases to get it to them so they can overturn them 5-4 or 6-3.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:46 AM
When the majority says that we must read our foundational charter as viewed at the time of ratification (except that we may also check it against the Dark Ages), it consigns women to second-class citizenship

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:49 AM
That house ###### is basically telling red states to file suits in those three cases to get it to them so they can overturn them 5-4 or 6-3.Thomas's jihad against substantive due process is darkly ironic.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 09:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWBn08YWQAEpswF?format=png&name=medium

DMC
06-24-2022, 09:55 AM
Old Joe gettin' it done.

DMC
06-24-2022, 09:56 AM
Now Uncle Thomas said he's moving his sights to taking down the right to contraception, the right for gays to have sex, and gay marriage.

:tu

Spurminator
06-24-2022, 09:57 AM
Sharia Law to trigger the libs lol lol

DMC
06-24-2022, 10:01 AM
Sharia Law to trigger the libs lol lol

Muslims bad again

pgardn
06-24-2022, 10:18 AM
Muslims bad again

Who ever said Sharia Law was a good thing Grumpa Ghazi?

Dick Jones
06-24-2022, 10:19 AM
Thomas's jihad against substantive due process is darkly ironic.
But he’s super nice and kind to everyone in the office!

ducks
06-24-2022, 10:21 AM
Women will be denied lifesaving medical care and die because of this.

Utterly barbaric.

Really
Half the states will allow abortion the others will to extent and a handful will not.
I doubt this ruling slows the number of abortions down
Businesses will pay people way to other states to get it down

Nathan89
06-24-2022, 10:23 AM
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:bobo

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:24 AM
it's not pretzel logic, it's Calvinball

1540144405046345730 (https://twitter.com/JoshuaMZeitz/status/1540144405046345730?s=20&t=RuYByOrRIYDm-I2avXQccQ)

Thread
06-24-2022, 10:25 AM
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!!!!

Nathan89
06-24-2022, 10:25 AM
That house ###### is basically telling red states to file suits in those three cases to get it to them so they can overturn them 5-4 or 6-3.

Resident racist chimes in.

Spurminator
06-24-2022, 10:26 AM
Muslims bad again

Muslims <> Sharia Law. But I understand its appeal to you.

Nathan89
06-24-2022, 10:30 AM
Really
Half the states will allow abortion the others will to extent and a handful will not.
I doubt this ruling slows the number of abortions down
Businesses will pay people way to other states to get it down

The conversation has changed. The barbaric practice of abortion will become less favorable.

Thread
06-24-2022, 10:32 AM
You thought you'd leak it & stop it.

You thought you'd murder Kavanaugh & stop it.

uh, uh...

DOWN GOES ROE!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!!!!

pgardn
06-24-2022, 10:35 AM
Who ever said Sharia Law was a good thing Grumpa Ghazi?


Muslims <> Sharia Law. But I understand its appeal to you.

ducks
06-24-2022, 10:37 AM
Biden speech today better saw no killing cops no killing justices no burning anything down

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 10:41 AM
The conversation has changed. The barbaric practice of abortion will become less favorable.

Now Uncle Thomas sending out a flare that the barbaric practices of contraception, gay people, and gay marriage are next.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:43 AM
"Cases [like Roe] are so well settled that no political actors and no people seriously push for their overruling."

Thread
06-24-2022, 10:43 AM
Trump President.

Not Clinton.

President Trump nailed it not once, not twice, but, three fuckin' times. No mistakes, nary a one. Brought each one into the Oval, and put it to 'em;
"I got luncheon waitin' with the kids. I'm striking down Roe. I want your word you'll strike it down. Yes, or no."

You GD right!!!

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:44 AM
"[Roe] is an important precedent... [Roe and Casey] have been reaffirmed many times. Casey is precedent on precedent."

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:44 AM
"Roe v. Wade...is a precedent of SCOTUS. It has been reaffirmed...A good judge will consider it as precedent."

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:45 AM
"[Roe] is settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis. It is settled."

Thread
06-24-2022, 10:47 AM
You thought you'd leak it & stop it.

You thought you'd murder Kavanaugh & stop it.

uh, uh...

DOWN GOES ROE!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!!!!

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:48 AM
:tulol you said people were catastrophizing

Thread
06-24-2022, 10:48 AM
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/449548/lavrov-putin.jpg

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 10:50 AM
And now this nazi court is going after the gays and contraception. LOL party of limited government. Republicans are such shitbags.

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:51 AM
So much for states' rights

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DMC
06-24-2022, 10:54 AM
lol you said people were catastrophizing

and?

DMC
06-24-2022, 10:54 AM
Muslims <> Sharia Law. But I understand its appeal to you.

So Sharia isn't about Muslims.

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 10:57 AM
So probably time to go buy up all the Plan B and start scalping it on ebay?

Winehole23
06-24-2022, 10:57 AM
Fuck legal formalism, legislative majorities need to codify positive rights.

The Dems have been out to lunch on this count, hope this ruling is a wake up call.

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DMC
06-24-2022, 10:58 AM
So much for states' rights

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Mike Pence calling for it. There goes freedom.

daboom1
06-24-2022, 10:58 AM
PRAISE THE LORD


What a day.. .


What a holy day.

On Biden's watch! (lol)

Trump likely to select 2 more judges next term.

>>>MILLIONS OF LIVES WILL BE SAVED<<<

DMC
06-24-2022, 10:59 AM
Fuck legal formalism, legislative majorities need to codify positive rights.

The Dems have been out to lunch on this count, hope this ruling is a wake up call.

1540337249988083713

That's a long ass lunch. Dems are too busy one upping each other on being woke to care about rights of their voters.

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:00 AM
You thought you'd leak it & stop it.

You thought you'd murder Kavanaugh & stop it.

uh, uh...

DOWN GOES ROE!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!
DOWN GOES ROE!!!!!!!!!


Thread!!!

SnakeBoy
06-24-2022, 11:03 AM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/u1ysISFV3VwPJUIqQW/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47hsc7n2chfi4rqc4q5umure8y2fic mjsqh09xkt8b&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:03 AM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1540350686130487299?t

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:06 AM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/u1ysISFV3VwPJUIqQW/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47hsc7n2chfi4rqc4q5umure8y2fic mjsqh09xkt8b&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


https://i.ibb.co/Mh6pZVG/20220624-110454.jpg

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 11:06 AM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1540350686130487299?t

In a year or two you'll be cheering that Texas becomes the first state to ban gay people.

SnakeBoy
06-24-2022, 11:09 AM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/gJtmvaxMUAJhcuFbIl/giphy.gif?cid=790b761194a1987b5c6f58a4a8a10e3e627e 714c41d0acc6&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

DMC
06-24-2022, 11:11 AM
The obvious solution for the left is to unfriend SCOTUS on facebook and unfollow on Twitter. That will show them.

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:12 AM
Let's Gooooooooooo!!!!


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1540366299729125378?t

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:13 AM
In a year or two you'll be cheering that Texas becomes the first state to ban gay people.

Just let us have our day bum.

DMC
06-24-2022, 11:15 AM
Let's Gooooooooooo!!!!


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1540366299729125378?t

https://www.dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/220504_RoeReasons_Ashford.jpg

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:19 AM
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1540344287652716550?t

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 11:20 AM
Just let us have our day bum.

Uncle Thomas sent up a flare to the red states that he and the rest of the Christofascist court are down to overturn Lawrence vs Texas.

daboom1
06-24-2022, 11:21 AM
Uncle Thomas sent up a flare to the red states that he and the rest of the Christofascist court are down to overturn Lawrence vs Texas.

Uncle Thomas

Trill Clinton
06-24-2022, 11:23 AM
Yay more bastard children, women dying at childbirth and back alley abortions.

Spurminator
06-24-2022, 11:26 AM
All I see from those celebrating this decision is basically, "I am not sexually active."

I mean, not that there was any doubt. :lol

Nathan89
06-24-2022, 11:27 AM
Yay more bastard children, women dying at childbirth and back alley abortions.

You'd think it would lead to more responsible decision making.

Spurminator
06-24-2022, 11:28 AM
So Sharia isn't about Muslims.

lol Derp.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:30 AM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/u1ysISFV3VwPJUIqQW/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47hsc7n2chfi4rqc4q5umure8y2fic mjsqh09xkt8b&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

You GD right. Nailed every one of 'em, all 3. No mistakes, no playin' games, no chance of failure.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Forever & ever, Amen.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:31 AM
Yay more bastard children, women dying at childbirth and back alley abortions.

...bend over. I'll show ya a back alley fuckin' abortions.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:32 AM
All I see from those celebrating this decision is basically, "I am not sexually active."

I mean, not that there was any doubt. :lol

Bend over. I'll show ya I am not sexually fuckin' active.

ElNono
06-24-2022, 11:35 AM
Another "separate but equal" type of ruling, tbh. Black eye to this court, and now it's inevitable that Casey will be codified into federal law sooner or later.

Reinforces the fact that everything conservatards touch goes to shit.

Nathan89
06-24-2022, 11:35 AM
This will save more lives than your gun laws.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:35 AM
https://www.dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/220504_RoeReasons_Ashford.jpg

& the ones who killed their babies are going to answer for it. He will open The Book on them and He will hold them to account.

Murdering a baby for convenience has ended.

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 11:38 AM
Another "separate but equal" type of ruling, tbh. Black eye to this court, and now it's inevitable that Casey will be codified into federal law sooner or later.

What's the mechanism for getting that done when the senate ensures the majority only gets minority representation? With current population trends by 2040 70% of the population will only be represented by 30% of the senate.

ElNono
06-24-2022, 11:39 AM
Don't forget that bitch RBG, who should've stepped down during the Obama days and avoided a lot of this.

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 11:40 AM
Don't forget that bitch RBG, who should've stepped down during the Obama days and avoided a lot of this.

Meh I'll still blame the christofascist republicans who actually carried this out first and foremost.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:41 AM
What's the mechanism for getting that done when the senate ensures the majority only gets minority representation? With current population trends by 2040 70% of the population will only be represented by 30% of the senate.

Bend over. I'll show ya a fuckin' mechanism.

Thread
06-24-2022, 11:42 AM
Meh I'll still blame the christofascist republicans who actually carried this out first and foremost.

Bend over. I'll show ya fuckin' first and foremost.

baseline bum
06-24-2022, 11:47 AM
Bend over. I'll show ya a fuckin' mechanism.

Careful, you'll go to jail for that kind of talk after Uncle Thomas' reign of terror is complete.

SnakeBoy
06-24-2022, 11:49 AM
Meh I'll still blame the christofascist republicans who actually carried this out first and foremost.

You really need to blame the Democrat Party that decided to clear the field for Hillary, then actively helped Trump win the GOP primary because he would be easy to beat. Then he grabbed her by the pussy and threw her in the dumpster.

SnakeBoy
06-24-2022, 11:50 AM
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Spurminator
06-24-2022, 11:55 AM
My dick doesn't work anymore and my marriage is ruined

monosylab1k
06-24-2022, 11:55 AM
Abortion is still legal everywhere tbh, just take your kids to an elementary school.

ElNono
06-24-2022, 11:57 AM
What's the mechanism for getting that done when the senate ensures the majority only gets minority representation? With current population trends by 2040 70% of the population will only be represented by 30% of the senate.

Obamacare is one model to follow.