SCOTUS Poised to Overturn Roe v Wade per leaked opinion

[boutons_deux]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-421147895853984143&th=181c705aafd5c64b&view=fimg&fur=ip&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9cCSNGojtvfCCkDX5kc0uiANhNIBtA-LoVVlcrfSYVSJWxveB-yK9v5bCBXnXwzAVzL_bzW8g8c9Vgb7tHyOw_lvKw0JUyYP-LE2N_o4ovpMXYirX1m90vzOk&disp=emb&realattid=ii_l564c28k0

[Thread]

Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[daboom1]

Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

Trump gave us the biggest W of our lifetime.

Trump

[boutons_deux]

A VASECTOMY HISTORIAN ON WHY MALE STERILIZATION WON’T SOLVE THE ABORTION PROBLEM


I am a historian of vasectomy who is going to lose her shit

if she sees one more feminists suggest

"mandatory vasectomies" for men,

that vasectomies prevent abortion, or

that vasectomies are any kind of solution to this situation.

Strap in, folks.



— Georgia Grainger (@sniphist) June 25, 2022 (https://twitter.com/sniphist/status/1540765313511219200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/georgia-grainger-mandatory-vasectomies

[ElNono]

Qhris should be able to tell you about male sterilization if you're curious, bouts

[Spurminator]

Trump gave us the biggest W of our lifetime.

Trump

The self-owns keep coming :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Texts, web searches about abortion have been used to prosecute women


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texts-web-searches-about-abortion-have-been-used-to-prosecute-women/ar-AAZ9dMa

[Isitjustme?]

The plan is for no parents in the hood. Sanger's Scraped & Scrapped is pretty catchy tbh.

Chris very concerned with increasing the black population so he has more people to prevent from voting

[Thread]

Trump gave us the biggest W of our lifetime.

Trump


Glory, glory, hallelujah!!!
His truth is marching on!!!

[ElNono]

Chris very concerned with increasing the black population so he has more people to prevent from voting

If only he would be just as concerned with his incelhood... hopefully he doesn't go shooting up a mall coz a girl turned him down...

[DMC]

Answering your question.

If SCOTUS says the 14th doesn't cover abortions, and the 14th doesn't mention abortions, then it was never actually right, just a permission. If SCOTUS is the interpreter of the Constitution, who is?

[DMC]

^if SCOTUS isn't the interpreter, who is?

[ElNono]

If SCOTUS says the 14th doesn't cover abortions, and the 14th doesn't mention abortions, then it was never actually right, just a permission. If SCOTUS is the interpreter of the Constitution, who is?


^if SCOTUS isn't the interpreter, who is?

It was not one, but multiple SCOTUS (Roe, Casey, plus all the challenges), that interpreted, for 50 years, that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy".

That was indeed the right that sustained the Roe and Casey decisions and made them legal in the first place.

You asked what right was taken away by this decision of the SCOTUS, that "fundamental right to privacy" was literally taken away from women only when it comes to abortion.

[ElNono]

But, you know, the SCOTUS is not beyond making mistakes, even if it might take decades to eventually get it rectified.

Since you're a fan of equal protection, another hit from the 14th amendment, I'm sure you're familiar with Plessy vs Ferguson and "separate but equal", another embarrassment of the SCOTUS that took 30 years to get erased from the books.

[Thread]

Glory, glory, hallelujah!!!
His truth is marching on!!!

[daboom1]

I have seen Him in the watchfires
Of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar
In the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence
By the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.

[ElNono]

Beep Boop

[Thread]

Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[daboom1]

He has sounded forth the trumpet
That shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men
Before His judgement seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him;
Be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.

[Blake]

He has sounded forth the trumpet
That shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men
Before His judgement seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him;
Be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.

Funny, nowhere in the Bible does it say directly that abortion is wrong. Not one time.

[ElNono]

Beep Boop

[ElNono]

Funny, nowhere in the Bible does it say directly that abortion is wrong. Not one time.

:lol why would anybody take the bible seriously anyways?

[daboom1]

Exodus 20:13

13 “You shall not murder."

[daboom1]

Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage
Where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning
Of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

[ElNono]

Beep boop

[Thread]

Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[DMC]

It was not one, but multiple SCOTUS (Roe, Casey, plus all the challenges), that interpreted, for 50 years, that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy".

That was indeed the right that sustained the Roe and Casey decisions and made them legal in the first place.

You asked what right was taken away by this decision of the SCOTUS, that "fundamental right to privacy" was literally taken away from women only when it comes to abortion.

The current SCOTUS says the 14th doesn't apply, and the 10th Amendment is also part of the constitution. It wasn't taken away. How does privacy fit into abortion?

[DMC]

:lol why would anybody take the bible seriously anyways?

Why vote for people who do? That's the real question.

[Blake]

Exodus 20:13

13 “You shall not murder."

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that abortion is murder

[Thread]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that abortion is murder

Killing a baby is murder, dad.

[Winehole23]

Brandon's fault when prices go up, Brandon's fault when they go down.

Why do they hate capitalism?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/05/oil-tumbles-more-than-8percent-breaks-below-100-as-recession-fears-mount.html

[Thread]

Brandon's fault when prices go up, Brandon's fault when they go down.

Old "shut it down."

[boutons_deux]

But, you know, the SCOTUS is not beyond making mistakes, even if it might take decades to eventually get it rectified.

Since you're a fan of equal protection, another hit from the 14th amendment, I'm sure you're familiar with Plessy vs Ferguson and "separate but equal", another embarrassment of the SCOTUS that took 30 years to get erased from the books.

SCOTUS doesn't "make mistakes" or have "accidents", esp not with enabling the criminalizing abortion.

[Thread]

SCOTUS doesn't "make mistakes" or have "accidents", esp not with enabling the criminalizing abortion.


Killing a baby is murder, dad.

[Chucho]

Source of him admitting he ever voted Republican?

A 2000 episode of the View where he tells them Clinton is a murderer who killed Vince Foster and then says he doesn't hope the Dems steal the election (2000) and he gushes over Dubya and they show a picture of Norm and Dubs and Norm is legit blushing in the pic. Plenty of vids on YouTube.

[ElNono]

The current SCOTUS says the 14th doesn't apply, and the 10th Amendment is also part of the constitution. It wasn't taken away. How does privacy fit into abortion?

This is the short version of that (stated by the SCOTUS at the time, and sustained by multiple SCOTUS over time, until this one):

Q: How does the original Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 relate to a constitutional right to privacy?

A: Although the Fourteenth Amendment does not contain the word “privacy” itself, nor does it appear in the rest of the Constitution, U.S. courts have long acknowledged an individual’s right to privacy in home and family life. The Supreme Court first recognized a constitutional right to privacy in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), a landmark decision that centered around the freedom of individuals to use contraception without interference from the government. The Griswold decision acknowledged that the Bill of Rights contained “zones of privacy” from the government within the First, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments. Combined with the Ninth Amendment, which acknowledges the existence of some constitutional rights that are not explicitly mentioned in the Bill of Rights, and the Fourteenth Amendment, which states that the government cannot infringe upon “life, liberty, or property” without the “due process of law,” the Supreme Court declared that there is a constitutional right to privacy within the “penumbra,” or shadow, of these protections. Griswold set a precedent for numerous privacy-related cases over the past six decades, including Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992).

In Roe v. Wade (1973), the Supreme Court held that the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause “protects against state action the right to privacy, including a woman’s qualified right to terminate her pregnancy,” and that “though the State cannot override that right, it has legitimate interests in protecting both the pregnant woman’s health and the potentiality of human life.” Striking this balance of interests, Roe v. Wade effectively stopped the enforcement of many state laws that banned abortion before 24 weeks. The Supreme Court later reaffirmed in Planned Parenthood v. Casey that “the fundamental right of privacy protects citizens against governmental intrusion in such intimate family matters” and that a state law would violate the Due Process Clause if it creates an “undue burden” on a pregnant person’s right to choose.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-privacy-united-states-could-look-without-roe-v-wade

[ElNono]

Why vote for people who do? That's the real question.

Because voting encompasses more than a single-issue? Or it should at least?

[ElNono]

SCOTUS doesn't "make mistakes" or have "accidents", esp not with enabling the criminalizing abortion.

Fairly confident this will be seen as another historical black eye on the court in the long run, much like Plessy. Hopefully they also bring down Obergefell and/or Loving shortly, so there's no doubt about it.

[Isitjustme?]

A 2000 episode of the View where he tells them Clinton is a murderer who killed Vince Foster and then says he doesn't hope the Dems steal the election (2000) and he gushes over Dubya and they show a picture of Norm and Dubs and Norm is legit blushing in the pic. Plenty of vids on YouTube.

Should be easy for you to find it for me then. Also what is it about being a republican/conservative that you have to go searching through a fucking 2000 archive of some random clip lmao. Is it so fucking embarrassing to just be like "I'm a Republican or conservative" :lol :lol

Literally have an easier job of finding the people on the grassy knoll and you do of finding a funny person who willing to just be like "I'm a conservative"

[boutons_deux]

Even if Griswold stands, states are likely to ban contraception

The demise of Roe threatens access to emergency contraception, IUDs and even the birth-control pill.

the rightwing supermajority on the Supreme Court has created a free-for-all.

State legislators can disregard medical consensus and redefine pregnancy and abortion according to whim.

Effective female-controlled methods of birth control could be banned even without overturning Griswold.

Five states already prohibit abortion from conception (https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/state-policies-later-abortions) onward.

These states have decrees that pregnancy begins (https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/22/politics/asa-hutchinson-abortion-ban-revisited-cnntv/index.html) at the moment (https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/24/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court-ruling/) of fertilization (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/oklahoma-abortion-ban-fertilization/).

Half of fertilized eggs fail without birth control. That means unprotected sex dooms more fertilized eggs than any birth control does

preventing a fertilized egg from implanting is contraception, not abortion.

Even the notorious Hyde Amendment allows the federal government to fund contraceptives (https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2005/05/implications-defining-when-woman-pregnant) that prevent implantation.

State legislators will probably get away with their capricious redefining of key medical concepts like “pregnancy” and “abortion,”

because the Supreme Court usually defers (https://theconversation.com/a-revolutionary-ruling-and-not-just-for-abortion-a-supreme-court-scholar-explains-the-impact-of-dobbs-185823) to their views on socially contested concepts.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/07/griswold-stands-states-ban-contraception/

[daboom1]

Should be easy for you to find it for me then. Also what is it about being a republican/conservative that you have to go searching through a fucking 2000 archive of some random clip lmao. Is it so fucking embarrassing to just be like "I'm a Republican or conservative" :lol :lol

Literally have an easier job of finding the people on the grassy knoll and you do of finding a funny person who willing to just be like "I'm a conservative"

Do you need some TP? Looks like you just shit your pants.

[boutons_deux]

Inside an Absolutely Slammed Abortion Clinic in a Blue State

Almost all abortions are banned in Missouri.

Just across the border, in Illinois, an abortion clinic is racing to treat as many patients as possible.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adn3w/illinois-hope-abortion-clinic (https://www.vice.com/en/article/3adn3w/illinois-hope-abortion-clinic?utm_source=email&utm_medium=editorial&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=220705)

[Blake]

Even if Griswold stands, states are likely to ban contraception

The demise of Roe threatens access to emergency contraception, IUDs and even the birth-control pill.

the rightwing supermajority on the Supreme Court has created a free-for-all.

State legislators can disregard medical consensus and redefine pregnancy and abortion according to whim.

Effective female-controlled methods of birth control could be banned even without overturning Griswold.

Five states already prohibit abortion from conception (https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/state-policies-later-abortions) onward.

These states have decrees that pregnancy begins (https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/22/politics/asa-hutchinson-abortion-ban-revisited-cnntv/index.html) at the moment (https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/24/texas-abortion-law-supreme-court-ruling/) of fertilization (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/oklahoma-abortion-ban-fertilization/).

Half of fertilized eggs fail without birth control. That means unprotected sex dooms more fertilized eggs than any birth control does

preventing a fertilized egg from implanting is contraception, not abortion.

Even the notorious Hyde Amendment allows the federal government to fund contraceptives (https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2005/05/implications-defining-when-woman-pregnant) that prevent implantation.

State legislators will probably get away with their capricious redefining of key medical concepts like “pregnancy” and “abortion,”

because the Supreme Court usually defers (https://theconversation.com/a-revolutionary-ruling-and-not-just-for-abortion-a-supreme-court-scholar-explains-the-impact-of-dobbs-185823) to their views on socially contested concepts.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/07/griswold-stands-states-ban-contraception/

Yeah I doubt states ban the birth control pill, tbh

[boutons_deux]

Yeah I doubt states ban the birth control pill, tbh

the idea is been proposed

Catholic hospitals already refuse tubal ligation and other surgical contraception, so that's within reach of the christo fascists.

Nothing is unthinkable, now that SCOTUS has handed it all to the states.

[daboom1]

Dems whining about State's rights :lol

[Blake]

the idea is been proposed

Catholic hospitals already refuse tubal ligation and other surgical contraception, so that's within reach of the christo fascists.

Nothing is unthinkable, now that SCOTUS has handed it all to the states.

Yeah, I'm not surprised it's been proposed, especially if it's tExiS but that one I just can't see happening

[Blake]

Do you need some TP? Looks like you just shit your pants.

Dude! No need to go shaqdunkingondudley.gif on him like that! Ease up, big fella.

[ChumpDumper]

Dems whining about State's rights :lol

You just lost an individual right. Why are you happy?

[koriwhat]

Dems whining about State's rights :lol

"mUh DeMoCrAcY!"

[DMC]

Dude! No need to go shaqdunkingondudley.gif on him like that! Ease up, big fella.
Bet you've said that before.

[boutons_deux]

Yeah I doubt states ban the birth control pill, tbh

[Blake]

Bet you've said that before.

In full derp mode now

[Isitjustme?]

Do you need some TP? Looks like you just shit your pants.

Nice zinger, bud. really got me there

btw in the future, I would recommend you guys maybe should add "lol" or some laughing emojis to your jokes so people can tell when you're making them. might be helpful

[daboom1]

Bet you've said that before.

https://i.ibb.co/FnBngJH/giphy-7.webp

[ElNono]

Nice zinger, bud. really got me there

btw in the future, I would recommend you guys maybe should add "lol" or some laughing emojis to your jokes so people can tell when you're making them. might be helpful

Gotheem

[Thread]

Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[SnakeBoy]

"Women's Health" clinics closing all over the place :lmao

[ElNono]

"Women's Health" clinics closing all over the place :lmao

You mean in Texas? lol

[Blake]

"Women's Health" clinics closing all over the place :lmao

Just curious you have a link?

[koriwhat]

https://i.ibb.co/FnBngJH/giphy-7.webp

That dude is always fucked up... The shop I worked at in LA for a weekend was his hot spot. That dude hung out the whole weekend I was there and the owner tattoos him pretty regularly. Odd guy and I believe he's somewhat homeless now on the streets of LA due to others siphoning off whatever money he made from becoming a irl meme. Poor dude.

[koriwhat]

"Women's Health" clinics closing all over the place :lmao


Planned Parenthood? PP is the biggest grift ever but on a large scale.

[Winehole23]

Fact sheet on today's executive order.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXI7vSSWAAACP8A?format=jpg&name=large
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXI7vSTWQAIgIpu?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXI7vSVX0AAvK87?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXI7vSVXgAA254X?format=jpg&name=large

[daboom1]

That dude is always fucked up... The shop I worked at in LA for a weekend was his hot spot. That dude hung out the whole weekend I was there and the owner tattoos him pretty regularly. Odd guy and I believe he's somewhat homeless now on the streets of LA due to others siphoning off whatever money he made from becoming a irl meme. Poor dude.

damn I had no idea that sucks

[koriwhat]

damn I had no idea that sucks

He still has a posse though but they aren't helping him any it seemed.

[daboom1]

He still has a posse though but they aren't helping him any it seemed.

Well he's a legend forever imo

[ElNono]

That dude is always fucked up... The shop I worked at in LA for a weekend was his hot spot. That dude hung out the whole weekend I was there and the owner tattoos him pretty regularly. Odd guy and I believe he's somewhat homeless now on the streets of LA due to others siphoning off whatever money he made from becoming a irl meme. Poor dude.


He still has a posse though but they aren't helping him any it seemed.

That's fucked up. Dude needs mental health help. Hope he gets it someday.

[koriwhat]

That's fucked up. Dude needs mental health help. Hope he gets it someday.

He def does. I felt bad a hell for him once I was around him a bit that weekend. When I first saw him across the street with his posse I was still under the impression he was ballin' out in LA but that wasn't reality at all. He's a very quiet dude too and I know he gets picked on really horribly out there on the streets of Hollywood Blvd. It's a sad situation for him unfortunately and many others out there like him. LA is cool and all but it breaks many people looking to be stars of some sort.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1545570147217424389?t

yikes :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1545570147217424389?t

yikes :lol

And people poked fun at GWB :lol

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1545570147217424389?t

yikes :lol

Wow.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1545570147217424389?t

yikes :lol

This is the POTUS we need, tbh

[DarrinS]

This is the POTUS we need, tbh

:lmao

[ElNono]

:lol

[Winehole23]

Did they find the leaker?

[DMC]

The indicators are indicating the indices, and we believe that belief will indicate the indications of belief if we just keep believing in the indications we've indicated.

[Winehole23]

^^^ losing it

[SnakeBoy]

This is the POTUS we need, tbh

It would be a dream come true tbh

[ElNono]

It would be a dream come true tbh

Agreed.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293001369_10161880335558332_8788418145271993119_n. jpg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=cIyuc8A576QAX9ouzmu&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=00_AT8vAIT_OS80JbeRvPL2T7edkYmfIYiZV_W7MfwNDIyv _w&oe=62D099A6

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXbVDNFXkAA_myW?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://news.yahoo.com/us-abortion-ruling-threatens-access-011837332.html

[benefactor]

Welp...here we go

https://news.yahoo.com/roe-v-wade-ruling-she-163634224.html

[boutons_deux]

Average cost of birth

$19000

$3000 OOP, if insured

SCOTUS6 THEY don't care, never have, never will -- G Carlin

[Winehole23]

So much for the liberal media conspiracy, it was all true

1547257965517754368

[Blake]

So much for the liberal media conspiracy, it was all true

1547257965517754368

Sick Republicans that want to force this kid to carry a baby full term.

Won't hear a peep from them.

[Winehole23]

Sick Republicans that want to force this kid to carry a baby full term.

Won't hear a peep from them.because they agree with it

[Winehole23]

(WSJ tried its best to muddy the waters.)

[Winehole23]

WSJ yesterday: "a fanciful tale"

Columbus Dispatch today: "rapist of pregnant 10 year old confesses"

[Trainwreck2100]

Welp...here we go

https://news.yahoo.com/roe-v-wade-ruling-she-163634224.html

"the comments were surprised she couldn’t get an abortion."

Of course they were

[Winehole23]

Republicans cause bad shit to happen, then their media megaphones deny it happened.

[Thread]

Average cost of birth

$19000

$3000 OOP, if insured

SCOTUS6 THEY don't care, never have, never will -- G Carlin

& yet Biden cares about having Ukraine on a $50 billion drawing account and more where that came from. Not a loan, mind you all. Just a hand out, yet when we're given a couple thousand a piece (of our money) two years ago all they've done is piss and moan about it ever since and lament handing it over, the dirty fucks.

[Thread]

Republicans cause bad shit to happen, then their media megaphones deny it happened.


& yet Biden cares about having Ukraine on a $50 billion drawing account and more where that came from. Not a loan, mind you all. Just a hand out, yet when we're given a couple thousand a piece (of our money) two years ago all they've done is piss and moan about it ever since and lament handing it over, the dirty fucks.

[Thread]

"the comments were surprised she couldn’t get an abortion."

Of course they were

It's wrong to kill a baby, wrecky. And you know it.

[Winehole23]

*attaches rocket sleds to goalposts one day after calling the story fake*

(See also "look, he's an illegal alien")

1547278167496441858

[daboom1]

It's wrong to kill a baby, wrecky. And you know it.

67 million and counting.

[daboom1]

Libs: "We need to protect the 10yo girl"

Also Libs: "Fuck them kids and sell the baby parts"

[Spurminator]

:lol "kids"

[koriwhat]

So much for the liberal media conspiracy, it was all true

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I wonder if he's a citizen or not... Makes you go hmm?

[koriwhat]

LMAO I was right about that pedo Gershon!

[ChumpDumper]

Somehow the citizenship of the rapist is more important than a man's raping and impregnating a ten year old girl.

Trumptards believe he has parental rights no regardless of his status.

[daboom1]

Undocumented immigrants raping 10 year old girls thanks to Biden's open border

[boutons_deux]

Will insurance companies that pay for abortion be sued and criminalized by the Christian fascists for aiding and abetting?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXkc-8HXgAAcmW1?format=jpg&name=largeonly once a week

[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgur.com/Bg1Fqoa.jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[SnakeBoy]

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Should doctors be required by law to report child rape victims?

[daboom1]

only once a week

:tu

[daboom1]

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Amen.

[DMC]

only once a week

"aborting by a 10 year old"

to

"people under the age 15"

Goalpost moved, then your little victory dance reeks of retardation. More Wall of Shame material.

[daboom1]

So a 10-year-old girl was raped in Ohio by an illegal alien and could've gotten a legal abortion in the state because it threatened her life but the doctors didn't report it to the police, shipped her over to Indiana, and turned it into a media story to sell abortion to the public.

[Trainwreck2100]

So a 10-year-old girl was raped in Ohio by an illegal alien and could've gotten a legal abortion in the state because it threatened her life but the doctors didn't report it to the police, shipped her over to Indiana, and turned it into a media story to sell abortion to the public.

how did it threaten her life?

[Winehole23]

"aborting by a 10 year old"

to

"people under the age 15"

Goalpost moved, then your little victory dance reeks of retardation. More Wall of Shame material.one would be a subset of the other damn you're dumb.

[daboom1]

how did it threaten her life?

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost said that Ohio's heartbeat law would have allowed such a young girl to get an abortion in the state.

[SnakeBoy]

only once a week

Not anymore :tu

[ElNono]

:lol "kids"

[ElNono]

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:lol child
:lol Bible

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Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[ChumpDumper]

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Do you believe end of days prophecy?

Yes or no.

[benefactor]

:lol child
:lol Bible
:lol tbh

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"convenience"

That's it & that's all.

[Winehole23]

how did it threaten her life?just curious, what law did the Indiana doctor break? Abortion is legal there, why plaster her face all over Fox if not to chill other doctors who provide medical care to child rape victims?

[Blake]

just curious, what law did the Indiana doctor break? Abortion is legal there, why plaster her face all over Fox if not to chill other doctors who provide medical care to child rape victims?

Maybe Fox turned it into a media story to sell anti abortion to their public

[Winehole23]

Maybe Fox turned it into a media story to sell anti abortion to their publicthey can do that without personally endangering the doctor.

[Winehole23]

O'Reilly jihad against Dr. Tiller comes to mind.

[Blake]

they can do that without personally endangering the doctor.

Pfft they're conservatives. What do they care

[Winehole23]

unrelatedly, this is the lawyer who argued Citizens United.

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[daboom1]

^beep bopp

[ChumpDumper]

^beep bopp:lol you were wrong

[Blake]

^beep bopp

Lol malfunction

[Spurminator]

Should doctors be required by law to report child rape victims?


So a 10-year-old girl was raped in Ohio by an illegal alien and could've gotten a legal abortion in the state because it threatened her life but the doctors didn't report it to the police, shipped her over to Indiana, and turned it into a media story to sell abortion to the public.

lolwrong

Someday you lonely boys will quit huffing bullshit as copium.

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[Blake]

Lol fucking Republican hacks

[koriwhat]

Here's the truth of the matter... That kid would've never been raped/pregnant in the first place if ol' Sleepy Joe was doing his job and securing our southern border. Prove me wrong!

[koriwhat]

Btw why is that illegal still alive? We should dispose of rapists/pedos caught red handed and those guilty without a doubt.

[DMC]

Btw why is that illegal still alive? We should dispose of rapists/pedos caught red handed and those guilty without a doubt.

There are some here who would support their right to be sexually active with children. Those who use "MAP" instead of pedophile, for example.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC clearly molests children.

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Donald Trump's lasting legacy will now be the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/chris-cillizza), CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sat June 25, 2022

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

Nigh on a half-century & that old man rendered it null & void.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.





Roe is dead, Trump put it on-the-spot and killed it. No mistakes this time; he chose wisely, hitting each of the 3 like ringing a bell. Nobody faltered, or, turned him.

And late your side came hard; first with the leak and then late with the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh.

Trump did right.

"Easy to do justice. Hard to do right."

[Blake]

DMC clearly molests children.

DMAPC

[RandomGuy]

DMAPC

:lol

[RandomGuy]

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:lol the bible says jack shit about fetus' and the people most familiar with the old testament have pretty clear stances on when a person is a person.

Abortions end pregnancies. period.

Forced pregnancy is barbaric.

[daboom1]

:lol the bible says jack shit about fetus' and the people most familiar with the old testament have pretty clear stances on when a person is a person.

Abortions end pregnancies. period.

Forced pregnancy is barbaric.

"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

[boutons_deux]

Indiana AG gonna investigate the ob-gyn who performed the abortion on the 10 year old rape victim

Intimidation of Indiana ob-gyns.

[daboom1]

https://i.imgflip.com/2vq5rc.jpg

[ElNono]

Beep Boop

[ElNono]

:lmao St Ronnie... he would be a RINO communist these days

[Winehole23]

Local reporters FOIA'd the report with ease. The Indiana AG is full of it.

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[boutons_deux]

Top Anti-Abortion Group Would Force Raped Child To Carry Pregnancy

The top attorney for the far-right anti-abortion group National Right to Life Committee says the 10-year old Ohio girl forced to travel to Indiana to obtain an abortion after being raped should have given birth to her rapist’s baby.

James Bopp, Jr., who worked to help overturn the 2020 election results by filing lawsuits favoring Donald Trump, is general counsel for National Right to Life.

He tells Politico the model legislation he drafted and is attempting to have states pass would have banned the child rape victim from being able to have an abortion – adding he would hope she understands.

“She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape,

we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,” Bopp said.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/top-anti-abortion-group-would-force-raped-ten-year-old-to-carry-pregnancy

Bopp and his group would pay not a penny to help a 10 year pay $19000 for the birth and post natal expenses.

[Winehole23]

(Whoopsie, Spurminator beat me to it)

[boutons_deux]

GOP senator blocks abortion travel protections

GOP Sen. James Lankford (Okla.) on Thursday blocked a Democratic request to unanimously pass a bill seeking to protect interstate travel for abortion.


Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), joined by a string of Democratic senators, had sought consent to pass a bill that would prevent states from punishing women who travel to other states where abortion is legal to get the procedure.


The measure would also protect health care providers who provide abortions to out-of-state patients.

“Does that child in the womb have the right to travel in their future?” Lankford said in objecting. “Do they get to live?”

“There’s a child in this conversation as well,” he added.

- The Hill email

[boutons_deux]

women losing right to travel along with their right to privacy

Antiabortion lawmakers want to block patients from crossing state lines

Some advocacy groups and their allies are crafting legislative language that could be adopted in Republican-led state capitals.

The Thomas More Society, a conservative legal organization, is drafting model legislation

for state lawmakers that would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a resident of a state that has banned abortion from terminating a pregnancy outside of that state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/

[koriwhat]

I don't get why all you "dudes" have a say in any of this when yall clearly don't according to leftist doctrine. You "dudes" might want to sit this one out, close the thread, and call it a wash. :lmao:lol:tu

[Thread]

GOP senator blocks abortion travel protections

GOP Sen. James Lankford (Okla.) on Thursday blocked a Democratic request to unanimously pass a bill seeking to protect interstate travel for abortion.


Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), joined by a string of Democratic senators, had sought consent to pass a bill that would prevent states from punishing women who travel to other states where abortion is legal to get the procedure.


The measure would also protect health care providers who provide abortions to out-of-state patients.

“Does that child in the womb have the right to travel in their future?” Lankford said in objecting. “Do they get to live?”

“There’s a child in this conversation as well,” he added.

- The Hill email


women losing right to travel along with their right to privacy

Antiabortion lawmakers want to block patients from crossing state lines

Some advocacy groups and their allies are crafting legislative language that could be adopted in Republican-led state capitals.

The Thomas More Society, a conservative legal organization, is drafting model legislation

for state lawmakers that would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a resident of a state that has banned abortion from terminating a pregnancy outside of that state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/




He did this!!!
https://conservativebrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/GettyImages-1229927638-1024x576.jpg.webp

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[daboom1]

He did this!!!
https://conservativebrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/GettyImages-1229927638-1024x576.jpg.webp


Amen.

[ElNono]

I don't get why all you "dudes" have a say in any of this when yall clearly don't according to leftist doctrine. You "dudes" might want to sit this one out, close the thread, and call it a wash. :lmao:lol:tu

don't have a say on what?

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXpJPS7UUAIa30u?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://conservativebrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/GettyImages-1229927638-1024x576.jpg.webp

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXpJPS7UUAIa30u?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://conservativebrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/GettyImages-1229927638-1024x576.jpg.webp

"many women".

He is talking about a ten year old child.

Pedo party TBH.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Why would Texas sue to prevent something its law already permits?

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[RandomGuy]

I think they could get 60 votes in the senate. All Republicans aren't against abortion. At the very least make every one of them vote yes or no.

You are smoking some serious crack if you think any republican senator at all would vote to legalize abortion.

If you truly think that, feel free to pony up the names of the GOP senators you think would vote for it.

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[RandomGuy]

As it is, the GOP keep lobbing softballs for the Dems to hit.

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The steady drip drip drip forces the GOP into defense, and keep the national dialogue in a place that favors Dems.

[Winehole23]

As it is, the GOP keep lobbing softballs for the Dems to hit.

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The steady drip drip drip forces the GOP into defense, and keep the national dialogue in a place that favors Dems.except, her doctor isn't facing prosecution. the Indiana AG lied about there being an issue with legal reporting requirements.

[RandomGuy]

except, her doctor isn't facing prosecution. the Indiana AG lied about there being an issue with legal reporting requirements.

Shocker.

Even so, it points out that is exactly what the GOP wants: Doctors jailed for performing medical procedures.

[RandomGuy]

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[koriwhat]

don't have a say on what?

Abortion duh. Come on now Nono. I mean that is unless you and the others identify as "women"? :lmao

[koriwhat]

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Actually it's the Dems agenda of open borders if we're being honest here. None of yall have proved me wrong yet on my assertion. :lmao

[ElNono]

Abortion duh. Come on now Nono. I mean that is unless you and the others identify as "women"? :lmao

Losing what used to be deemed a Constitutional right on a whim should be important to everybody, no matter what gender you are.

Today is Roe, tomorrow can easily be Loving or Obergefell. Anything that sets this country back 50+ years should perk everybody's attention.

[koriwhat]

Losing what used to be deemed a Constitutional right on a whim should be important to everybody, no matter what gender you are.

Today is Roe, tomorrow can easily be Loving or Obergefell. Anything that sets this country back 50+ years should perk everybody's attention.

You're wrong about it being "deemed a Constitutional right" for one. Show me in the Constitution where abortion is mentioned even once please.

Power back to the states where it belongs is wrong now? Are you for bigFed or what?

Again, you're a dude right? You have no say in any of this by the logic of your own ideology bro so sit this one out like the cis male that you are. :tu

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[DMC]

You're wrong about it being "deemed a Constitutional right" for one. Show me in the Constitution where abortion is mentioned even once please.

Power back to the states where it belongs is wrong now? Are you for bigFed or what?

Again, you're a dude right? You have no say in any of this by the logic of your own ideology bro so sit this one out like the cis male that you are. :tu

The left will go on and on about how the framers didn't ever imagine automatic weapons, semi-auto hand guns and having a standing military, but will call you an originalist if you say abortion wasn't in the constitution.

[boutons_deux]

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Abbutt had $50M last year.

Capitalists in out of state will buy Abbutt another term

[boutons_deux]

The Thomas Court intends to overturn same-sex marriage same-sex

When repugs control all three branches they will make all that 14th Amendment privacy shit, unenumerated rights shit illegal federally


The fascist cops are drooling over the SWAT raids on sodomizers and lesbos turned in by bounty hunters

America is so fucked and unfuckable

The fuckedness will be irreversible when scotus legalizes the bullshit of "independent state legislature" and very probably with DeSantis as president

[spurraider21]

There are some here who would support their right to be sexually active with children. Those who use "MAP" instead of pedophile, for example.
who here has ever done this aside from koriwhat?

[ElNono]

You're wrong about it being "deemed a Constitutional right" for one. Show me in the Constitution where abortion is mentioned even once please.

I'm not wrong, and we've already gone through the legal argument in this thread, so I won't repeat myself. If you're curious see this post and the discussion surrounding it:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299816&p=10775617&viewfull=1#post10775617


Power back to the states where it belongs is wrong now? Are you for bigFed or what?

Constitutional rights are above any state regulation. That has nothing to do with right or wrong. It's was actually set out that way because in many instances we still have a set of stupid States. The Civil War and the bunch of losers from the Confederacy comes to mind.


Again, you're a dude right? You have no say in any of this by the logic of your own ideology bro so sit this one out like the cis male that you are. :tu

Why do you keep pushing this and how is it relevant to what we're discussing? Hit up Grindr if you're in need of a male companion, I'm hetero and been married for over a decade now.

But I don't judge, if the sausage party is your thing, good for you :tu

[ElNono]

The left will go on and on about how the framers didn't ever imagine automatic weapons, semi-auto hand guns and having a standing military, but will call you an originalist if you say abortion wasn't in the constitution.

Voting rights for women or slaves weren't in the original constitution either. Inter-racial marriage wasn't and still isn't codified in it either, but that's a long held constitutional right Uncle Thomas definitely won't touch.

[DMC]

"many women".

He is talking about a ten year old child.

Pedo party TBH.

Not Pedo, MAP. Get your libtard terms right.

[DMC]

Voting rights for women or slaves weren't in the original constitution either. Inter-racial marriage wasn't and still isn't codified in it either, but that's a long held constitutional right Uncle Thomas definitely won't touch.

But the left only considers originalism when the 2A is mentioned, so I don't know where you're going with that.

[DMC]

who here has ever done this aside from koriwhat?

Chumpy stumped pretty hard for the rights of Pedos. I feel you were getting there as well with "they have feelings too" bullshit.

[spurraider21]

Chumpy stumped pretty hard for the rights of Pedos. I feel you were getting there as well with "they have feelings too" bullshit.
when did chump or i ever suggest that they have a right to have sexual relations with children?

[DMC]

when did chump or i ever suggest that they have a right to have sexual relations with children?

You both are trying to be on the front line, the tip of the spear for wokeness, by supporting child molesters because you think one day it will be the woke thing to do. Don't try to deny it. MAPs are people too, and if they don't act on their desire to fuck a 4 year old bloody, then they should be treated like anyone else. However if someone ever comments on wanting a firearm, they need to be red flagged and denied the ability to ever own one.

[spurraider21]

You both are trying to be on the front line, the tip of the spear for wokeness, by supporting child molesters because you think one day it will be the woke thing to do. Don't try to deny it. MAPs are people too, and if they don't act on their desire to fuck a 4 year old bloody, then they should be treated like anyone else. However if someone ever comments on wanting a firearm, they need to be red flagged and denied the ability to ever own one.
damn, thats a lot of shit i disagree with and you will never find a post that hints otherwise

pretty creepy. guess you and koriwhat are in the same club

[ChumpDumper]

DMC definitely fucks children. He should've gotten help before he started fucking children.

[ElNono]

But the left only considers originalism when the 2A is mentioned, so I don't know where you're going with that.

False.

[CosmicCowboy]

DMC definitely fucks children. He should've gotten help before he started fucking children.

You really are disgusting chump. You need to get outside and get off the keyboard.

[ChumpDumper]

You really are disgusting chump. You need to get outside and get off the keyboard.You haven't read his accusations or you're just cheering him on.

I'm using his logic. Anyone who doesn't want to prevent pedos from acting on their pedo desires is probably part of a pedo ring himself.

[DMC]

damn, thats a lot of shit i disagree with and you will never find a post that hints otherwise

pretty creepy. guess you and koriwhat are in the same club

You're projecting. I expected no less. Don't judge professed kiddie diddlers, but judge someone who despises them.

[DMC]

False.

Show me where the left supports originalism.

[Blake]

Show me where the left supports originalism.

Lol DMC found a new word again and has been dying to show it off

[koriwhat]

The left will go on and on about how the framers didn't ever imagine automatic weapons, semi-auto hand guns and having a standing military, but will call you an originalist if you say abortion wasn't in the constitution.

You interpret the Framers as having an issue with anything but muskets but I and many others don't. I'm sure the Framers would have a ball at the range with the arms we have these days. :tu

As for abortion, can you point to it in the Constitution for me?

Before you call me some Trump loving bigoted whatever, I don't care either way when it comes to the abortion issue. You do you though it's not my cup of joe.

[DMC]

Lol DMC found a new word again and has been dying to show it off

You're the most hurt poster on the forum, and it's not even close.

[koriwhat]

BTW My last response wasn't actually geared towards you DMC. It was meant for those who keep claiming the Framers didn't have guns today in mind and wouldn't be cool with them which is nothing more than make believe and whatifs.

[Blake]

You're the most hurt poster on the forum, and it's not even close.

:lol l like how angry tats liked this post

Start a thread about it and let's see where you and I finish in the hurt rankings

[Blake]

But the left only considers originalism when the 2A is mentioned, so I don't know where you're going with that.

The problem with your post is what El Nono highlighted. The word "only". You have this thing with all or nothing scenarios. It's another reason you suck at debating.

[ElNono]

Show me where the left supports originalism.

I took your phrase to mean that originalism is the only thing they consider when it comes to the 2A. It's not the only thing they consider..

[ElNono]

You interpret the Framers as having an issue with anything but muskets but I and many others don't. I'm sure the Framers would have a ball at the range with the arms we have these days. :tu

As for abortion, can you point to it in the Constitution for me?

Before you call me some Trump loving bigoted whatever, I don't care either way when it comes to the abortion issue. You do you though it's not my cup of joe.

This is all pretty much 'make believe and whatifs'.

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[Winehole23]

Show me where the left supports originalism.being in love with how they wrote it 248 years ago is stupid. you really couldn't improve on it in 250 years?

huh.

Sounds denso in the menso.

[Winehole23]

damn, thats a lot of shit i disagree with and you will never find a post that hints otherwise

pretty creepy. guess you and koriwhat are in the same club

It's conspucuous to mention it for sure

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[DMC]

I took your phrase to mean that originalism is the only thing they consider when it comes to the 2A. It's not the only thing they consider..

Language barrier. Keep practicing mijo. :lol

I meant it's the only time they do it.

[DMC]

being in love with how they wrote it 248 years ago is stupid. you really couldn't improve on it in 250 years?

huh.

Sounds denso in the menso.

We shouldn't need SCOTUS if we can just have the latest party in power rewrite it. In the history of the US it's only been changed a few times. That should speak volumes.

[DMC]

:lol l like how angry tats liked this post

Start a thread about it and let's see where you and I finish in the hurt rankings
Yeah you're not hurt at all. Simply mentioning it triggered you to challenge another poster to a "who's the most hurt" contest just because of the like button.


The problem with your post is what El Nono highlighted. The word "only". You have this thing with all or nothing scenarios. It's another reason you suck at debating.

You misunderstood (again). El was thinking I meant "only" as in "only thing" but I meant it as in "only time". But thanks for tryin' to tardsplain it. I guess.

[Trainwreck2100]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/case-10-year-rape-victim-challenges-anti-abortion/story?id=86814201





Catherine Glenn Foster, head of the anti-abortion group Americans United for Life, told Swalwell she didn't think it was.

"If a 10-year-old with her parents made the decision not to have a baby that was a result of a rape, if a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape, and it was threatening her life then that's not an abortion," Foster told the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday.



:lol now they're just making shit up

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:lol now they're just making shit up

"If you live long enough some bad shit is gonna happen to you."

That doesn't stand for when that bad shit happens to you you can kill the baby. Killing babies is wrong. And everybody knows it.

[Blake]

Yeah you're not hurt at all. Simply mentioning it triggered you to challenge another poster to a "who's the most hurt" contest just because of the like button.

Lol you're the one that brought it up. I know who's butthurt and who's not. I know you're ass hurts here way more than mine because of how important forum status is to you.

Just a recommendation to start a thread about it if you're really not sure, that's all, derp.




You misunderstood (again). El was thinking I meant "only" as in "only thing" but I meant it as in "only time". But thanks for tryin' to tardsplain it. I guess.

Yeah, I got you meant "only time" and here you are doubling down on it. It's all or nothing with you in many threads. Again, just another reason you suck at debating, derp.

[Trainwreck2100]

"If you live long enough some bad shit is gonna happen to you."

That doesn't stand for when that bad shit happens to you you can kill the baby. Killing babies is wrong. And everybody knows it.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-science-health-medication-lupus-e4042947e4cc0c45e38837d394199033



Munoz said he faced an awful predicament with a recent patient who had started to miscarry and developed a dangerous womb infection. The fetus still had signs of a heartbeat, so an immediate abortion — the usual standard of care — would have been illegal under Texas law.

“We physically watched her get sicker and sicker and sicker” until the fetal heartbeat stopped the next day, “and then we could intervene,” he said. The patient developed complications, required surgery, lost multiple liters of blood and had to be put on a breathing machine “all because we were essentially 24 hours behind.’’


different story lady was in the middle of a miscarraige, meaning no baby because that's what a miscarraige is and nothing was done

[ElNono]

Language barrier. Keep practicing mijo. :lol

I meant it's the only time they do it.

I would say it's more textualism than originalism, but your point is well taken.

[ElNono]

We shouldn't need SCOTUS if we can just have the latest party in power rewrite it. In the history of the US it's only been changed a few times. That should speak volumes.

Conversely, once a SCOTUS has applied it's review, especially multiple SCOTUS, we shouldn't need a new SCOTUS to come in with original interpretations of it. After all, it's only been changed a few times. That should speak volumes.

[ElNono]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/case-10-year-rape-victim-challenges-anti-abortion/story?id=86814201

:lol now they're just making shit up

:lol mental gymnastics... sound like Qhris, tbh

[DMC]

Lol you're the one that brought it up. I know who's butthurt and who's not. I know you're ass hurts here way more than mine because of how important forum status is to you.

Just a recommendation to start a thread about it if you're really not sure, that's all, derp.





Yeah, I got you meant "only time" and here you are doubling down on it. It's all or nothing with you in many threads. Again, just another reason you suck at debating, derp.

You jumped on Koriwhat for pressing the like button and threw down the gauntlet. :lmao

I asked for an example of liberals using constitutional originalism and you didn't offer anything.

[DMC]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/case-10-year-rape-victim-challenges-anti-abortion/story?id=86814201





:lol now they're just making shit up
It's all made up. The concept of the value of a human life is made up, as is the arbitrary point in time when it's a baby vs a fetus, and why one is more important than the other. If you kill fruit on the vine you still kill the fruit, just as if you took it from your refrigerator and trashed it. It's all made up to make humans more comfortable in doing whatever they want to do. Humans love inventing moral reasoning and pretending it's fact.

If you can accept that one minute it's ok to kill the life form but the next minute it's not, then you shouldn't have any issue with the leap in rationality that a 10 year old rape victim stopping pregnancy isn't an abortion. They are only comfort words anyhow.

[ElNono]

It's all made up. The concept of the value of a human life is made up, as is the arbitrary point in time when it's a baby vs a fetus, and why one is more important than the other. If you kill fruit on the vine you still kill the fruit, just as if you took it from your refrigerator and trashed it. It's all made up to make humans more comfortable in doing whatever they want to do. Humans love inventing moral reasoning and pretending it's fact.

If you can accept that one minute it's ok to kill the life form but the next minute it's not, then you shouldn't have any issue with the leap in rationality that a 10 year old rape victim stopping pregnancy isn't an abortion. They are only comfort words anyhow.

Of course it's made up and all mental gymnastics. The ultimate goal is to impose their moral values on you. In an ideal world they would love to micromanage every abortion decision, throwing in their morality at it (and religion as well, let's not pretend those things don't go hand in hand with the conservative dinosaurs).

Things like "sanctity of life" and "protection of the unborn" followed by a lengthy word salad of quotes from a book of fiction are just feel good excuses for themselves. They would never be arguments in a rational world.

[Spurminator]

The concept of the value of a human life is made up, as is the arbitrary point in time when it's a baby vs a fetus, and why one is more important than the other.

There's nothing arbitrary about that. This is just your excuse for not having a real opinion on it besides "whatever the libs on Spurstalk.com don't believe."


If you kill fruit on the vine you still kill the fruit, just as if you took it from your refrigerator and trashed it.

:lol Stick to trolling, this is pathetic.

[Blake]

You jumped on Koriwhat for pressing the like button and threw down the gauntlet. :lmao

:lol you love the likes which is why you love shielding for spazz. It's hilarious.


I asked for an example of liberals using constitutional originalism and you didn't offer anything.

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in 1937, 1954, and 1963. In each of these previous turning points, new blood on the Court prompted big changes. Each prior revolution tossed overboard landmark rulings that had once seemed settled precedent, as the new Court condemned the old conclusions as egregious misreadings of constitutional text and history. But all three prior revolutions involved liberal, not conservative, originalism. And in that history lies a way forward for today’s liberal jurists—if they can bring themselves to see it...

https://time.com/6192277/supreme-court-originalism/

Here you go, derp. It's a great read for those with average reading comprehension skills.

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[DMC]

:lol you love the likes which is why you love shielding for spazz. It's hilarious.



"......

in 1937, 1954, and 1963. In each of these previous turning points, new blood on the Court prompted big changes. Each prior revolution tossed overboard landmark rulings that had once seemed settled precedent, as the new Court condemned the old conclusions as egregious misreadings of constitutional text and history. But all three prior revolutions involved liberal, not conservative, originalism. And in that history lies a way forward for today’s liberal jurists—if they can bring themselves to see it...

https://time.com/6192277/supreme-court-originalism/

Here you go, derp. It's a great read for those with average reading comprehension skills.

Hugo Black :lol

Before he became a Senator, Black espoused anti-Catholic views and was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama, from which he resigned in 1925.[5] In 1937, upon being appointed to the Supreme Court, Black said: "Before becoming a Senator I dropped the Klan. I have had nothing to do with it since that time.

Real liberal you got there, probably LGBTQer

[Trainwreck2100]

It's all made up. The concept of the value of a human life is made up, as is the arbitrary point in time when it's a baby vs a fetus, and why one is more important than the other. If you kill fruit on the vine you still kill the fruit, just as if you took it from your refrigerator and trashed it. It's all made up to make humans more comfortable in doing whatever they want to do. Humans love inventing moral reasoning and pretending it's fact.

If you can accept that one minute it's ok to kill the life form but the next minute it's not, then you shouldn't have any issue with the leap in rationality that a 10 year old rape victim stopping pregnancy isn't an abortion. They are only comfort words anyhow.

She's saying an abortion isn't an abortion for reasons without actually calling it what she thinks it is. Because it was just an abortion

[DMC]

She's saying an abortion isn't an abortion for reasons without actually calling it what she thinks it is. Because it was just an abortion

I understand that, but it's just a less polished version of it's a baby/its not a baby. Just a way to make abortion seem less barbaric.

[Blake]

Hugo Black :lol

Before he became a Senator, Black espoused anti-Catholic views and was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama, from which he resigned in 1925.[5] In 1937, upon being appointed to the Supreme Court, Black said: "Before becoming a Senator I dropped the Klan. I have had nothing to do with it since that time.

Real liberal you got there, probably LGBTQer

Real L you have here. Sorry for your loss.

[Winehole23]

We shouldn't need SCOTUS if we can just have the latest party in power rewrite it. In the history of the US it's only been changed a few times. That should speak volumes.it's hard to change, for better and for worse.

it's ridiculous to have indirect election of POTUS, lifetime tenure for one branch of government, patchwork election law and a non-proportional US Senate in 2022.

I think it speaks volumes that we didn't recommend this system for any of the countries we wrote constitutions for after WWIi.

[Winehole23]

No exception for rape and incest and investing the rapists with parental rights is grooming.

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[Winehole23]

weeks or days until someone dies because they were denied appropriate medical care.

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[DMC]

it's hard to change, for better and for worse.

That's a copout.


it's ridiculous to have indirect election of POTUS, lifetime tenure for one branch of government, patchwork election law and a non-proportional US Senate in 2022.

Sounds like you should be shopping around for a new home.


I think it speaks volumes that we didn't recommend this system for any of the countries we wrote constitutions for after WWIi.
The "we" probably knew the rights and freedoms afforded to US citizens would prevent these governments from exercising level of control needed to effective micromanage their population. Liberals have been fighting for years to get rid of our own rights. "Fuck the constitution" should be on the Democratic National Convention website.

[DMC]

weeks or days until someone dies because they were denied appropriate medical care.

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Unlike now.

[DMC]

Real L you have here. Sorry for your loss.

You settled for a Klansman as your liberal firebrand? :lol

Be honest, you didn't read shit past whatever search result you got and that one line in that article. You didn't even see that the article was titled basically Liberals should think like Conservatives. :lol You didn't know the justice you were touting was a klansman who was supported by the Klan while in office, and only dropped the klan as a ploy to get into said office. :lol

Low IQ poster.. you'll never be able to hold an adult conversation. You're too fucking lazy.

[Winehole23]

That's a copout.How so? There are good and bad things about the inflexibility of our system, Mr. Honest Broker.


Sounds like you should be shopping around for a new home.You only wish, I'm not going anywhere. Your love it or leave it bromides are self-soothing, tbh.


The "we" probably knew the rights and freedoms afforded to US citizens would prevent these governments from exercising level of control needed to effective micromanage their population. Liberals have been fighting for years to get rid of our own rights. "Fuck the constitution" should be on the Democratic National Convention website.Which ones? Not sure what you're referring to beyond muh gunz, and that's catastrophizing, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Obama didn't take yr gunz away and neither did Brandon. They barely even tried, tbh.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Face it, DMC, the right has succeeded in taking away rights in a big way and you're hardly done yet. Y'all are just getting warmed up.

[Winehole23]

Denying women appropriate medical care and bodily autonomy is off the rails radical.

[Winehole23]

The pussy hats in 2017 didn't overreact. They intuited the political stakes, and they were right.

[Winehole23]

You settled for a Klansman as your liberal firebrand? :lol

Be honest, you didn't read shit past whatever search result you got and that one line in that article. You didn't even see that the article was titled basically Liberals should think like Conservatives. :lol You didn't know the justice you were touting was a klansman who was supported by the Klan while in office, and only dropped the klan as a ploy to get into said office. :lol

Low IQ poster.. you'll never be able to hold an adult conversation. You're too fucking lazy.Justice Black changed his mind. You hate that, don't you?

[ElNono]

So much for the liberal media conspiracy, it was all true

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What happened with Gym Jordan on this, tbh? Is he still backpedaling? :lol

[Winehole23]

What happened with Gym Jordan on this, tbh? Is he still backpedaling? :lolhe deleted his tweet calling the Columbus reporter a liar, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doubles down again. once you start telling lies, you have to cover it up with more lies if you can't admit you were wrong.

[Winehole23]

Gym Jordon has a lengthy track record of that.

[daboom1]

^spammy

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[ElNono]

beep boop

[DMC]

How so? There are good and bad things about the inflexibility of our system, Mr. Honest Broker.

"nothing could be done"


You only wish, I'm not going anywhere. Your love it or leave it bromides are self-soothing, tbh.

Why would I care where you post from?


Which ones? Not sure what you're referring to beyond muh gunz, and that's catastrophizing, tbh.
You're the one who pulled this idea from your ass, you tell me what's different.

[DMC]

Justice Black changed his mind. You hate that, don't you?
SCOTUS changed theirs. You hate that, don't you.

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Fuckin' eh!!!

[Winehole23]

SCOTUS changed theirs. You hate that, don't you.I do. They took away rights with shit reasoning.

[Winehole23]

"nothing could be done"

Why would I care where you post from?

You're the one who pulled this idea from your ass, you tell me what's different.:blah

[Blake]

You settled for a Klansman as your liberal firebrand? :lol

Be honest, you didn't read shit past whatever search result you got and that one line in that article. You didn't even see that the article was titled basically Liberals should think like Conservatives. :lol You didn't know the justice you were touting was a klansman who was supported by the Klan while in office, and only dropped the klan as a ploy to get into said office. :lol

Low IQ poster.. you'll never be able to hold an adult conversation. You're too fucking lazy.

Lol this spin job. I read the article. You didn't read the article. I posted a brief snippet where the author mentions liberal originalism. The author goes on further to discuss instances of it in history. The author is a valid source. You're a hack on a sports forum. You lose.

You just really don't know how to debate, derp.

I mean, I'd even love to discuss when constitutional originalism should be used and when it shouldn't but you're such a moron that I'd rather just lol at you and move on.

[Winehole23]

Idaho might criminalize abortion completely.


The Idaho Republican Party has approved changes to its platform that criminalize all abortions without exemptions for rape, incest, or the life of the motherhttps://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/2022/07/16/day-3-gop-platform-focuses-on-abortion-restriction-primary-elections/

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Fuckin' eh!!!

Killing babies, ALWAYS bad.

[DMC]

Lol this spin job. I read the article. You didn't read the article. I posted a brief snippet where the author mentions liberal originalism. The author goes on further to discuss instances of it in history. The author is a valid source. You're a hack on a sports forum. You lose.

You just really don't know how to debate, derp.

I mean, I'd even love to discuss when constitutional originalism should be used and when it shouldn't but you're such a moron that I'd rather just lol at you and move on.

I asked for examples of liberals using constitutional originalism and you drag up 1937 and a Klansman. Hasn't anyone here used it? Are there no liberals that come to mind for you, so you had to go back almost 100 years to find an example? :lol

You're ether too lazy or too stupid to find a contemporary example of liberals defending the literal version of the constitution vs "fuck the constitution" types.

And you're really leaking hurt all over the place. Clean yourself up.

[DMC]

I do. They took away rights with shit reasoning.

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/645820/U_HAUL_LOGO.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Sucking hard on Thomas's dick and telegraphing that the Thomas Court will overturn Obergefel ASAP,

Cruz the case was decided wrongly.