Record for most days over 100 degrees per year in San Antonio

[GAustex]

I meant, draining off LA county's homeless budget doesn't even begin to solve the wildfire preparedness issue.

What then?
The discussion was raises for LAPD
Move the goal posts much?

[SnakeBoy]

Supposedly what started the Eaton fire, but wouldn't be surprised to see arson for at least one of the others.

Which one got started by climate change?

[SnakeBoy]

And go where?

Some other place that coddles ticks and leeches

[baseline bum]

Which one got started by climate change?

Ask the insurance companies

[Winehole23]

The discussion was raises for LAPD
Move the goal posts much?the discussion was the noisy, incoherent Republican reaction to catastrophic wildfires

[ChumpDumper]

Which one got started by climate change?

Are you really this stupid?

[Winehole23]

Some other place that coddles ticks and leecheshomeless removal doesn't work on ticks and leeches either

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ecjlc5ouev63oweq5en4lsj3/bafkreighgp7f5mh3v2i6hl5v7mrsn3zwzosi4uwgpnnoftg65 s25ebwnru@jpeg

[Blake]

Some other place that coddles ticks and leeches

D.C.?

[TSA]

LAFD's budget was cut by 17.5 million.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-los-angeles-cut-fire-department-funding-2011568

LAFD chief flagged budget cut impact on wildfire response last month

With fires raging across Los Angeles County, news that the Los Angeles Fire Department chief pushed back on recent fire department budget cuts is resurfacing online.

LAFD Fire Chief Kristin Crowley wrote in a memo Dec. 4, 2024, that “the reduction ... has severely limited the department’s capacity to prepare for, train for, and respond to large-scale emergencies, including wildfires.”

Crowley’s memo followed news of a nearly $18 million fire department budget reduction, which was approved by Mayor Karen Bass. According to NBC Los Angeles, “the budget reduction was mostly absorbed by leaving many administrative jobs at the fire department unfilled, but that left about $7 million that had to be cut from its overtime budget – which was earmarked for training, fire prevention, and other key functions.”

With discussion about the budget cuts heating up amid the current emergencies unfolding across the county, Mayor Bass responded on Wednesday evening, stating the budget cuts did not impact the LAFD’s response to these particular fires, including the 15,000-acre Palisades Fire.

Crowley’s memo was presented last month to a panel of mayoral appointees who oversee management of the fire department. The memo reads, in part: “Without this funding, pilot compliance and readiness are jeopardized, and aerial firefighting capabilities are diminished. Changes to the Air Operations Section impact the Department’s ability to adhere to current automatic and mutual aid agreements, provide air ambulance service, and quickly respond to woodland fires with water dropping helicopters.”

NBC Los Angeles reported that the memo “also highlighted other programs that would suffer under the cuts, including the Disaster Response Section, which funds the bulldozer teams that cut breaks and control lines around wildfires, and the Critical Incident Planning and Training Section, which develops plans for major emergencies.”

https://www.firerescue1.com/wildfire-and-wildland-urban-interface/lafd-chief-flagged-budget-cut-impact-on-wildfire-response-month-before

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1877768199619408114

[SnakeBoy]

Honestly, nothing you could do once the fire started with the winds that were blowing.

Nothing could be done except cry climate change

[SnakeBoy]

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1877359751027179568

That's a lot of space freed up for future homeless encampments

[TSA]

Water in hydrants would have helped

https://x.com/amattattack/status/1877794810163020257

[SnakeBoy]

Jamie Lee Curtis faces backlash for ‘atrocious comparison’ of Palisades fire to Gaza
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/jamie-lee-curtis-faces-backlash-for-atrocious-comparison-of-palisades-fire-to-gaza/ar-BB1rePrq?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e679e3f1b7184cc09e8da327fa91934f&ei=28#comments

Stupid comparison from her, Joe Biden didn't fund this destruction

[TSA]

all 114 LA Country reservoirs were full before the fire, 15x normal water usage after the fire broke out lowered water pressure for the whole system

https://x.com/vjeannek/status/1877803224343736334

[TSA]

Reinsurance prices skyrocketed. Not just California, Florida too. We have much larger amount of catastrophic climate events, and it ain't because of missing rakes or DEI departments, tbh...

This also impact house affordability, since you have to have an insurance to sustain mortgages. We'll see where this goes, but something is going to have to give.

https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1877603735834378581

[Blake]

https://x.com/amattattack/status/1877794810163020257

You don't have the full information on what happened with the fire hydrants.

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/vjeannek/status/1877803224343736334yeah, that's not good.

definitely that's better info than was initially reported, that's one the hazards of immediate aftermath posting.

[ChumpDumper]

Nothing could be done except cry climate changeYou hate it when you're so clearly wrong, don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/amattattack/status/1877794810163020257

How would hydrant testing have helped the unprecedented demand on the water systems' tanks?

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/vjeannek/status/1877803224343736334So the entire community had no water at all?

Seriously, how do you think water gets to hydrants and homes?

[Blake]

Are they never supposed to do maintenence on the reservoirs? Jesus, where were you guys in attacking the president when Covid exploded?

[SnakeBoy]

Are they never supposed to do maintenence on the reservoirs? Jesus, where were you guys in attacking the president when Covid exploded?

Fire season is the best time to do maintenance, amirite?

[ChumpDumper]

Fire season is the best time to do maintenance, amirite?January fire season, amirite?

[Blake]

Fire season is the best time to do maintenance, amirite?

Alright I'll fill you in to help move this along. This is literally the middle of California's wet season.

https://www.drought.gov/dews/california-nevada

Or is their wet season the new fire season? What changed?

[SnakeBoy]

Los Angeles Fire Department Chief Kristin Crowley was fired by Mayor Karen Bass on Friday afternoon, a source close to the chief’s office told DailyMail.com.

‘Kristin was summoned by Bass this afternoon, about 4pm. She came back from that meeting, hugged her staff goodbye and left. She said she was fired,’ the source said.

The alleged booting follows Crowley lashing out against the Mayor’s cuts to her department, in an interview with a local Fox TV station around 12pm Friday.

‘My message is the fire department needs to be properly funded,’ the Chief said. ‘It’s not.’

‘Did they fail you?’ Fox LA’s Gigi Graciette asked. ‘Yes,’ Crowley replied.

Woke on woke violence

Ya hate to see it

[SnakeBoy]

Alright I'll fill you in to help move this along. This is literally the middle of California's wet season.

https://www.drought.gov/dews/california-nevada

Or is their wet season the new fire season? What changed?

They're in a drought, it's fire season.

[SnakeBoy]

The lesbian blames the gubmint


'Since day one, we've identified huge gaps in regard to our service delivery and our ability of our firefighters' boots on the ground to do their jobs,' Crowley said.

'This is my third budget as we're going into 2025-2026, and what I can tell you is we are still understaffed, we're still under-resourced, and we're still underfunded.'

Crowley painted a grim picture of the department's daily operations, revealing that firefighters are handling more than 1,500 calls and transporting 650 patients every day under normal conditions. The wildfires have only exacerbated these challenges.

'We are screaming to be properly funded to make sure that our firefighters can do their jobs so that we can serve the community,' Crowley said.

'This isn't a new problem. It's been a problem for years. And it's time for it to be fixed.'

Despite her repeated warnings and detailed memos outlining the department's needs, the city slashed the LAFD's budget by over $17 million in recent years.

The result, Crowley said, was predictable: slower response times and a diminished capacity to combat the growing frequency and intensity of fires.

'Any budget cut is going to impact our ability to provide service,' she explained. 'If there's a budget cut, we had to pull from somewhere else. What does that mean? That doesn't get done or that there are delays.'

Crowley's criticism extends beyond the immediate crisis, pointing to a systemic failure to scale the fire department's capabilities alongside the city's explosive growth.

'We know we need 62 new fire stations. We need to double the size of our firefighters,' she said. 'The growth of this city since 1960 has doubled, and we have less fire stations.'

[SnakeBoy]

Mayor Crowley???

[Blake]

They're in a drought, it's fire season.

Droughts can last for years, professor.

[Blake]

The lesbian blames the gubmint

Your team needs to decide if they want less government or not

[SnakeBoy]

Droughts can last for years, professor.

Then every season during the drought is a fire season

[ChumpDumper]

They're in a drought, it's fire season.

:lol you think water goes directly from reservoirs to hydrants

[Winehole23]

Woke on woke violence

Ya hate to see itwoke means little here besides "I see two women and one of them is black"

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWqNt7damng


However, the homeless man had so-far only been arrested on a felony parole violation because “there was not enough probable cause to arrest this person on arson or suspicion on arson,” Choi said.https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/homeless-man-with-flamethrower-busted-on-suspicion-of-arson-near-la-s-kenneth-fire-after-residents-detain-him/ar-BB1rcs8r

[Winehole23]

ooga booga

[Winehole23]

climate change is making certain places uninsurable, but it's probably fair to say some of them -- lots of fingers pointed at Malibu -- probably shouldn't have been developed in the first place, and shouldn't be rebuilt.


Like many other insurers of last resort in the 33 other states with this type of system, the California FAIR Plan is buckling under the weight of natural disasters worsened by climate change. “I’m concerned that we’re one bad fire season away from complete insolvency,” said Jim Wood, then a California Assemblyman, at a March hearing (https://www.assembly.ca.gov/media/assembly-insurance-committee-20240313) in which CA Fair Plan President Victoria Roach explained that it had just $200 million of cash on hand, with $450 billion of exposure in the state.


That bad fire season is now here. As infernos burn across Los Angeles County, torching at least 28,000 acres, analysts at Accuweather estimate losses could reach $52 to $57 billion (https://www.accuweather.com/en/blogs-webinars/california-wildfires-52-57b-damage-estimate-accuweather-report/1731718). It is a blow to the hundreds of insurers operating in California, but a particular challenge for the state’s insurer of last resort. And its predicament highlights the precarity of the home insurance market, in California and nationally. Due to an increased risk of fires, floods, convective storms, hurricanes, and other national disasters, it doesn’t make financial sense for insurers to offer plans to some people. In 2023, insurers lost money on homeowner coverage in 18 states, up from 12 states five years ago, according to an analysis by the New York Times. (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/13/climate/insurance-homes-climate-change-weather.html)https://time.com/7205849/los-angeles-fires-insurance/

[Winehole23]

other people pay the extra cost of insuring my Malibu beach house?

killer!


The fate of the California FAIR Plan affects everyone in the nation’s most populous state. If it doesn’t have enough money to cover its claims, every policyholder in the state ends up paying more. Insurers are responsible for covering the first billion dollars of claims in California, but then the responsibility goes to every insurance policyholder in the state—who are responsible for additional assessed charges. Essentially, everyone has to pay to reimburse people whose homes lie in high-risk areas.

Florida is a case in point: when Citizens, the state-run insurer of last resort, can’t pay out claims, policyholders must pay the bill, which added up to a “Hurricane Tax (https://www.theinvadingsea.com/2024/01/24/florida-property-insurance-recoupment-hurricanes-climate-change-citizens-legislature/)” of hundreds of dollars per household after Hurricane Ian hit the Atlantic Coast near Cape Canaveral in 2022, causing $113 billion in damages.

[Blake]

Then every season during the drought is a fire season

And if the reservoir had cracks or wasn't operating correctly, you'd still be pointing fingers. It's what you and your team does.

... even when it's your team's fault lol.

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao Karma

https://x.com/maria86149/status/1877130610864541706

Karma loves James Woods

1877851867017015355

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:pmhyscv7t7incelmoevkijpr/bafkreicl6mjjfdvmsrpwrj35t7b4eg5pidegxyknmvhjucj3j lelwsvbue@jpeg

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:pmhyscv7t7incelmoevkijpr/bafkreicl6mjjfdvmsrpwrj35t7b4eg5pidegxyknmvhjucj3j lelwsvbue@jpeg

After the tears will come the tweet storm blaming teh libs

[SnakeBoy]

Newscum, feeling the heat, cries about misinformation

1877800600844517844

[SnakeBoy]

1878188411409825974

[SnakeBoy]

1878189130523484258

Wtf goats? A Mexican with a weed eater will knock that shit out in an hour. White boy with a weed eater knocks it out in 8 hours. Black guy with a weed eater maybe a week. All faster and cheaper than an army of goats.

[DarrinS]

Truth bomb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZQMv_Ke_0

[ChumpDumper]

EVERYONE has been predicting worse wildfires.

:lmao climate change deniers pretending to be prophets

[DarrinS]

EVERYONE has been predicting worse wildfires.

:lmao climate change deniers pretending to be prophets

What's the climate of Los Angeles? For forever

[ChumpDumper]

What's the climate of Los Angeles? For foreverWhat month is it, Darrin?

Please answer truthfully.

[DarrinS]

What month is it, Darrin?

Please answer truthfully.

Its fucking dry there. I lived there. Have you?

[ChumpDumper]

Its fucking dry there. I lived there. Have you?Five years.

What month is it, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

Five years.

What month is it, Darrin?

January, and? I lived there three years and it rarely rained

[ChumpDumper]

January, and? I lived there three years and it rarely rainedIn your experience, was January the big wildfire month traditionally?

[DarrinS]

In your experience, was January the big wildfire month traditionally?

Wildfire season is whenever its dry and windy. Pretty sure that's universal

[ChumpDumper]

Wildfire season is whenever its dry and windy. Pretty sure that's universalThat wasn't my question, Darrin.

In your experience, was January the big wildfire month traditionally?

[DarrinS]

Here you go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_warning

[ChumpDumper]

Here you go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_warning

That doesn't answer my direct question to you, Darrin.

In your experience, was January the big wildfire month traditionally?

[DarrinS]

That doesn't answer my direct question to you, Darrin.

In your experience, was January the big wildfire month traditionally?

I only lived there three years. Don't recall if it rained in January. Rarely rained. LA has third highest EV vehicles per capita. Many of those pushed off the roads by bulldozers. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

I only lived there three years. Don't recall if it rained in January.You do drink a lot so there's plenty you could have missed. January is traditionally NOT fire season because of lower temperatures and rainfall.

LA has third highest EV vehicles per capita. Many of those pushed off the roads by bulldozers. LolWell as long as it makes you laugh -- people losing their transportation as well as their homes. That's what's important here.

[ChumpDumper]

I won't argue that California has to now be prepared for the worst fires year round now; just that it hasn't been the case until the last 10-15 years. It's due to climate change and that's that. It's simply undeniable and I don't know why anyone chooses to keep trying.

And more reservoirs wouldn't have done anything to "fill the hydrants" -- the bottlenecks in this situation were the storage tanks and towers. There will have to be a lot more of them in the future to fight fires like this from hydrants.

[DarrinS]

LA would basically be a desert, if not for human intervention.

[DarrinS]

They were getting lucky with the winds

[ChumpDumper]

LA would basically be a desert, if not for human intervention.Nah, average rainfall is above that level.

[DarrinS]

Another common sense human


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-qeaSePudA

[GAustex]

^saved his and neighbors houses using water from a pool and koi pond

Just imagine how many houses not all but how many could have been saved if there was water in the hydrants

[ChumpDumper]

Another common sense human


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-qeaSePudA

Gotta love the ornamental desert koi pond.

[DarrinS]

Its just dry plus wind plus irresponsible people. Bad policies only made it worse. The end

[ChumpDumper]

Its just dry plus wind plus irresponsible people. Bad policies only made it worse. The endAre you still a climate change denier, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

Lucky to have the water pressure.

Gotta love the ornamental desert koi pond.

What's the koi pond got to do with anything?

[ChumpDumper]

What's the koi pond got to do with anything?"It's a desert."

Mandatory pools and ponds for everyone in the fire zone. Common sense.

[DarrinS]

Are you still a climate change denier, Darrin?

Nope. Climate always changes. Fortune to live during the Holocene.

[DarrinS]

"It's a desert."

Mandatory pools and ponds for everyone in the fire zone. Common sense.

That guy saved his house. You just look like an asshole. Congrats

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. Climate always changes. Fortune to live during the Holocene.So you're still an anthropogenic climate change denier.

[ChumpDumper]

That guy saved his house. You just look like an asshole. CongratsYou laughed at people losing their transportation. You just look like an asshole. Congrats.

[DarrinS]

So you're still an anthropogenic climate change denier.

This is the level of discourse here. Bored.

[ChumpDumper]

This is the level of discourse here. Bored.Well drink more, I guess.

I should have posed it as a question: Are you still an anthropogenic climate change denier, Darrin?

If so, what more evidence would you need to be convinced? I mean the things the climate scientists were saying would happen are beginning to happen pretty clearly.

[GAustex]

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate “climate change”?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?

[ChumpDumper]

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate “climate change”?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?This is a disingenuous question.

You don't even think the climate is changing.

[GAustex]

I figured you would not answer

[ChumpDumper]

I figured you would not answerFirst things first: Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

[GAustex]

First things first: Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?
Nice word
You first

[ChumpDumper]

Nice word
You firstNo, I am not an anthropogenic climate change denier.

Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

[GAustex]

No, I am not an anthropogenic climate change denier.

Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate “climate change”?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?

[ChumpDumper]

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate “climate change”?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?Why are you putting climate change in quotation marks?

[GAustex]

Why are you putting climate change in quotation marks?

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate climate change?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?

[SnakeBoy]

What are you specifically and in detail doing to mitigate “climate change”?

Then tell me what you would have me do to mitigate climate change?

They never answer. It's just something they like to cry about when there is weather they don't like.

[ChumpDumper]

They never answer. It's just something they like to cry about when there is weather they don't like.

Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

[ChumpDumper]

Honestly, all of you know and have been told over and over how to do your personal part to help mitigate anthropogenic climate change -- consume less -- but that just leads to your personal grievances.

Unfortunately the real significant changes have to be made on a much larger scale through government action and international cooperation -- which leads into a spiral of additional grievance.

Ultimately you'll want to do nothing and do nothing because you're whiny little children who can't take responsibility for anything.

[GAustex]

So taxes to the government to fight climate change?

I am sure that will work

[ChumpDumper]

So taxes to the government to fight climate change?

I am sure that will workYour turn.

Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

[Winehole23]

silly, superstitious, virtue-signaling Angelenos

https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-health-california-wildfire-air-quality-smoke-a77db04196ebfadd483527cc1cf2be71

[Winehole23]

If you live in Los Angeles, you are probably already intimately familiar with Watch Duty, the free app that shows active fires, mandatory evacuation zones, air quality indexes, wind direction, and a wealth of other information that everyone, from firefighters to regular people, have come to rely on (https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/9/24339799/watch-duty-wildfire-tracking-app-la-wildfires) during this week’s historic and devastating wildfires.

Watch Duty is unique in the tech world in that it doesn’t care about user engagement, time spent, or ad sales. The 501(c)(3) nonprofit behind it only cares about the accuracy of the information it provides and the speed with which the service can deliver that information. The app itself has taken off, rocketing to the top of Apple’s and Google’s app stores. Over 1 million people have downloaded (https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/9/24340260/the-watch-duty-wildfire-maps-app-has-been-downloaded-1-5-million-times-in-two-days) it over the last few days alone.

The elegance of the app lies in its simplicity. It doesn’t scrape user data, show ads, require any kind of login, or track your information. Its simple tech stack and UI — most of which is maintained by volunteer engineers and reporters — has likely helped save countless lives.

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/11/24340913/watch-duty-wildfire-tracking-app-los-angeles-nonprofit

[Blake]

1878189130523484258

Wtf goats? A Mexican with a weed eater will knock that shit out in an hour. White boy with a weed eater knocks it out in 8 hours. Black guy with a weed eater maybe a week. All faster and cheaper than an army of goats.

That same guy is complaining about water conservation laws

[baseline bum]

They never answer. It's just something they like to cry about when there is weather they don't like.

Because it's fucking retarded to act like global warming is a matter of personal responsibility and not something only addressable at systemic levels. But I guess continue to push oil company talking points like a good useful idiot.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:dgwkd3tfsfcgz32ibcnotmcl/bafkreicoiaqag4yfncoba5pxp6mnpfzdanuxd6zs6dqhttnfk wk52bisdi@jpeg

www.smileycrew.tv (http://www.smileycrew.tv/)

[Winehole23]

California GOP delegation monitoring the situation from MAL


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lunzsb7vhxmxrd7cmvvrratt/bafkreicrqmv7ynt5cxc6if2c2x6qslmbpxly537vo2i65soej 3fztllveq@jpeg

[Winehole23]

kissing Donald Trump's ass and backing his bullshit is clearly the priority

[Blake]

kissing Donald Trump's ass and backing his bullshit is clearly the priority

Fear is real I guess

[SnakeBoy]

Because it's fucking retarded to act like global warming is a matter of personal responsibility and not something only addressable at systemic levels. But I guess continue to push oil company talking points like a good useful idiot.

We need systemic changes that don't affect me :cry

[SnakeBoy]

Honestly, all of you know and have been told over and over how to do your personal part to help mitigate anthropogenic climate change -- consume less -- but that just leads to your personal grievances.


What are you personally doing to consume less?

[baseline bum]

We need systemic changes that don't affect me :cry

Good one dumbass

[Winehole23]

80 Percent of Global CO2 Emissions Come From Just 57 Companies, Report Shows | Smithsonian (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/since-2016-80-percent-of-global-co2-emissions-come-from-just-57-companies-report-shows-180984118/)

[SnakeBoy]

80 Percent of Global CO2 Emissions Come From Just 57 Companies, Report Shows | Smithsonian (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/since-2016-80-percent-of-global-co2-emissions-come-from-just-57-companies-report-shows-180984118/)

Stop the production of coal, oil, natural gas and cement NOW!

[Blake]

Stop the production of coal, oil, natural gas and cement NOW!

These companies have hindered alternative energy sources for decades. Things we know.

[Winehole23]

Stop the production of coal, oil, natural gas and cement NOW!says you and pretty much only you

[GAustex]

Eat zee bugs
Adopt and embrace your social credit score
Digital currency is the way to go

Sounds great
What could go wrong

[SnakeBoy]

says you and pretty much only you

Oh okay

Keep producing coal, oil, natural gas and cement and complain about the weather NOW!

[DarrinS]

Dude saves his house with a cheap gas-powered pump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxEUCkZj5OM

[SnakeBoy]

1878467243635314824

[Winehole23]

Oh okay

Keep producing coal, oil, natural gas and cement and complain about the weather NOW!whatever dude, you're barely making any sense

[SnakeBoy]

1878337946983526472

[DarrinS]

He could have been mayor of LA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv7tb8KO1yM

[Blake]

1878337946983526472

Remember when the power went out in Texas? Abbott is still around. Of course the difference is that in Texas the top priority is checking for penis in the boys bathrooms.

[ChumpDumper]

What are you personally doing to consume less?Consuming less. It's simple stuff but only makes a real difference at scale if morons like you ever figured anything out. Seriously, how stupid are you?


Because it's fucking retarded to act like global warming is a matter of personal responsibility and not something only addressable at systemic levels. But I guess continue to push oil company talking points like a good useful idiot.
Ultimately yes, snacks is a useful idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

Stop the production of coal, oil, natural gas and cement NOW!


Eat zee bugs
Adopt and embrace your social credit score
Digital currency is the way to go

Sounds great
What could go wrong

You guys still miss leaded gasoline, don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

He could have been mayor of LA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv7tb8KO1yM

And done what?

[baseline bum]

And done what?

He could have prioritized the mall over peoples' homes with public firefighters too durr. Must defend capital above all.

[baseline bum]

Eat zee bugs
Adopt and embrace your social credit score
Digital currency is the way to go

Sounds great
What could go wrong

You may not believe in global warming but your insurance company does. Hell your president does too while gaslighting his base calling it a hoax.

[koriwhat]

You may not believe in global warming but your insurance company does. Hell your president does too while gaslighting his base calling it a hoax.

Not necessarily a hoax seeing how climate changes but definitely not the mountain yall have made it out to be coming from a mole hill.

You can preach a change in energy when you get China and India to participate in the scheme your overlords want you to obsess over. :lol

[baseline bum]

Not necessarily a hoax seeing how climate changes but definitely not the mountain yall have made it out to be coming from a mole hill.


https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temperature_timeline_2x.png

[koriwhat]

Yeah bro, I'm not for cartoonish "charts"... Again, when China and India get on board then go ahead and cry about "climate change" or whatever yall are calling it this decade as the name has changed many times over my life time and docus have become debunked in the process; here's looking at your dumb ass Gore!

Until then, you're the problem too.

[baseline bum]

Yeah bro, I'm not for cartoonish "charts"

Also that graph is a little old. We crossed the +1.5C over pre-industrial times level in 2024 making our path significantly worse than the 'current path' projection given above. Shows very clearly the difference between normal climate change and man made global warming.

[GAustex]

List all the systematic changes you want to impose on the poor saps. List em all

And does Swift, Kerry and Clooney are they exempt? Who decides who is exempt?

Where does my most assuredly increase tax burden go and how do you guarantee there is no grift? And I will laugh at you when you say we can trust alt energy tax recipients.

How many degrees temp drop comes from my eating crickets and drinking roach milk?

Who decides my social credit score? Can I have control over your social credit score? That would be fun.

[SnakeBoy]

Also that graph is a little old. We crossed the +1.5C over pre-industrial times level in 2024 making our path significantly worse than the 'current path' projection given above. Shows very clearly the difference between normal climate change and man made global warming.

What do you want to do about it?

Expecting no answer again

[Blake]

List all the systematic changes you want to impose on the poor saps. List em all

And does Swift, Kerry and Clooney are they exempt? Who decides who is exempt?

Where does my most assuredly increase tax burden go and how do you guarantee there is no grift? And I will laugh at you when you say we can trust alt energy tax recipients.

How many degrees temp drop comes from my eating crickets and drinking roach milk?

Who decides my social credit score? Can I have control over your social credit score? That would be fun.

Lol "poor saps". Your reading comprehension level is terrible.

[DarrinS]

This area has always had issues with fires


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnC1WW95XE

[Blake]

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If the chart was a cartoon in "tat" form then maybe he would trying reading it.... though still beyond his 10th grade level comprehension skills.

[Blake]

This area has always had issues with fires


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnC1WW95XE

So what was it exactly that LA should have done?

[Blake]

What do you want to do about it?

Expecting no answer again

You've been given the answers over and over again. All you do is lol.

[GAustex]

It’s amazing that our government will tell you with a straight face that they can’t stop a regional fire, but if you just pay more in taxes, they can change the entire global climate.

[Winehole23]

It’s amazing that our government will tell you with a straight face that they can’t stop a regional fire, but if you just pay more in taxes, they can change the entire global climate.really, who said that and where?

[Winehole23]

Who decides my social credit score? Can I have control over your social credit score? That would be fun.Amazon, Alphabet, Meta and Apple, does that suit you?

[SnakeBoy]

You've been given the answers over and over again. All you do is lol.

What's the answer?

[Winehole23]

you guys are really tilting at windmills here

[GAustex]

Amazon, Alphabet, Meta and Apple, does that suit you?
I am sure that would good for mankind

[baseline bum]

What do you want to do about it?

Expecting no answer again

For the millionth fucking time, reasonable public transportation would be a great start.

[SnakeBoy]

For the millionth fucking time, reasonable public transportation would be a great start.

You have VIA

[Blake]

You have VIA

He said reasonable

[SnakeBoy]

He said reasonable

Yeah he wants to use a shit ton of fossil fuels to build a subway that he might use occasionally if it meets his standards

[DarrinS]

Not shocked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIq5mCcXpy8

[Blake]

Yeah he wants to use a shit ton of fossil fuels to build a subway that he might use occasionally if it meets his standards

Lol a subway in San antonio

[SnakeBoy]

Lol a subway in San antonio

Imagine the smell of all those Fat Antonians

Ain't no way baseline would use it more than once

[SnakeBoy]

Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?

Define denier

[DarrinS]

Underground electric and better building materials a must.

[GAustex]

Them new windows and Hardy board siding made a huge difference

Look at me being all green.

[DarrinS]

Them new windows and Hardy board siding made a huge difference

Look at me being all green.

My house is 4 side brick + Hardy. Only vulnerability is asphalt shingle roof, but I don't live in a historically high fire risk area.

[ChumpDumper]

Define denier

Go ahead and tell us how you are and/or aren't one depending on your definition.

[SnakeBoy]

Pretty much what you'd expect

1878562016664678572

[TSA]

Are they never supposed to do maintenence on the reservoirs? Jesus, where were you guys in attacking the president when Covid exploded?

That reservoir had been empty since February 2024.

[Blake]

That reservoir had been empty since February 2024.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

It was never meant for fire fighting. Had it been at full capacity, i probably still would have been a just band aid that would've been ripped off later in the night. Do you read the sources you post?

You guys still need to decide if
A. You want more or less government intervention
B. This is a desert area where water is hard to come by to begin with or not.

[TSA]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

It was never meant for fire fighting. Had it been at full capacity, i probably still would have been a just band aid that would've been ripped off later in the night. Do you read the sources you post?

You guys still need to decide if
A. You want more or less government intervention
B. This is a desert area where water is hard to come by to begin with or not.
Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

Do you read the sources you post?

"Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

"A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

"Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

[TSA]

https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1878578152399917143

[TSA]

And more reservoirs wouldn't have done anything to "fill the hydrants" -- the bottlenecks in this situation were the storage tanks and towers.

"A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

"Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

[SnakeBoy]

This area has always had issues with fires


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnC1WW95XE

How did they know climate change would do this 60 years ago?

[ChumpDumper]

Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

Do you read the sources you post?

"Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

"A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

"Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

OK, what is your schedule for reservoir maintenance for all of LA?

[TSA]

And more reservoirs wouldn't have done anything to "fill the hydrants" -- the bottlenecks in this situation were the storage tanks and towers. There will have to be a lot more of them in the future to fight fires like this from hydrants.
OK, what is your schedule for construction of more tanks and towers for all of LA?

[Winehole23]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/loomer.png

[ChumpDumper]

OK, what is your schedule for construction of more tanks and towers for all of LA?Hey, I think you might actually be understanding this now.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/loomer.png

She is starting to be right twice a day.

[SnakeBoy]

Loomer fans :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Loomer fans :lmaoAre you in favor of network states, snacks?

[Blake]

Never claimed it was meant for fighting fire but it would have helped.

Do you read the sources you post?

"Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system."

"A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades."

"Quiñones said four times the usual demand for water on the trunk line over a 15-hour period led to drops in water pressure. Had the Santa Ynez Reservoir been in use in that period, Adams estimated, that demand might have been just three times as high. Water in the reservoir would have fed the firefighting equipment and helped the pump stations push water to the storage tanks."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

Why did you leave out the part further down where it probably wouldn't have mattered? Did you not read that part?

[Winehole23]

Loomer fans :lmaorepost =/= endorsement

I see the cracks in your wall

[baseline bum]

repost =/= endorsement

I see the cracks in your wall

All Snakes ever does is show his crack on this forum.

[SnakeBoy]

All Snakes ever does is show his crack on this forum.

Mostly I repost

[ChumpDumper]

Mostly I repost

Are you in favor of network states, snacks?

[Winehole23]

Sadistic Republicans want to punish Californians for suffering a natural catastrophe, but somehow extorting Florida to change its ways isn't happening.

[Winehole23]

.

[DarrinS]

Why such a slow response?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shiDib0JxgE

[ChumpDumper]

Why such a slow response?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shiDib0JxgE

I would guess already fighting two other fires had something to do with the timing.

[DarrinS]

I would guess already fighting two other fires had something to do with the timing.

Palisades fire wasn't the first?

[ChumpDumper]

Palisades fire wasn't the first?

Not according to Rupert Murdoch's timeline.

10:33 a.m.: Firefighters report seeing smoke and say they must divert resources from the two other ongoing fires, according to radio traffic.

[DarrinS]

Palisades fire wasn't the first?

Clarification: wildfire

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/timeline-how-the-la-fires-erupted-into-the-worst-natural-disaster-in-california-history/ar-AA1xfSly?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[SnakeBoy]

Former US attorney for Kamala Harris rips Dem Mayor Karen Bass over LA fires: 'Criminal negligence'
By Emily Crane Published Jan. 15, 2025, 9:47 a.m. ET New York Post

A Los Angeles resident and former US attorney for Vice President Kamala Harris said Democratic Mayor Karen Bass' handling of the devastating wildfires that have ravaged his community borders on "criminal negligence."


Michel Valentine, who claims it took fire crews a staggering 45 minutes to drop water after the Palisades Fire first broke out last week, said there is now "no way" he could trust the embattled pol to lead the city.

"I say it's just wrong. A lot of people are at fault," Valentine told NewsNation.

"I think Mayor Bass bears the ultimate responsibility for this failure, and I think she should be held accountable. There's no way that I could trust her again as my mayor in light of this tragedy, there's no way."

The former attorney also managed to film the moment the now-deadly blaze first started ravaging the area.

Valentine and his wife started recording the fast-moving flames and "intense plume of smoke" billowing near their home in the Pacific Palisades enclave just after they called 911 at about 10:30 a.m. last Tuesday.

The harrowing footage, obtained by NewsNation's "Elizabeth Vargas Reports," shows the blaze more than doubling in size by the time a chopper appeared overhead to start dousing the flames.

"It could have been confined," Valentine said of the blaze that is still ravaging the area more than a week later.

"It wouldn't have touched any of the homes," he continued, adding he had "no idea" what prompted the delay in response time.....

[SnakeBoy]

LAFD bosses sent just 5 fire engines to Palisades Fire while holding back 1,000 firefighters and 40 trucks in critical first hours
By Emily Crane Published Jan. 15, 2025, 7:36 a.m. ET New York Post

Los Angeles fire bosses opted not to deploy 1,000 available firefighters and more than 40 water-carrying engines until after one of the wildfires was burning out of control even as extreme warnings were coming in about life-threatening winds, according to a damning new report.

Officials held off ordering hundreds of available fire crews to remain on duty for a second shift last Tuesday to help battle flames taking hold in the since-ravaged Pacific Palisades neighborhood, according to internal fire department records obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

They also only staffed five of the more than 40 fire engines that were available, the records show.

No extra engines were readied in the Palisades region prior to the fire breaking out there, but nine were pre-positioned in the San Fernando Valley and Hollywood areas, according to the logs.

The additional manpower was only deployed to the now-destroyed Palisades enclave after the flames had already taken hold, according to the logs.

"The plan you're using now for the fire you should have used before the fire," former LAFD Battalion Chief Rick Crawford told the outlet. "It's a known staffing tactic a deployment model....

[ChumpDumper]

Clarification: wildfire

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/timeline-how-the-la-fires-erupted-into-the-worst-natural-disaster-in-california-history/ar-AA1xfSly?ocid=BingNewsSerp

So they shouldn't have been fighting other kinds of fires? I'm not understanding the need for distinction here when it comes to answering a question of resources and response that morning.

There is a theory the Palisades fire started from remnants of the Jan. 1 Lachlan fire.

[Blake]

If there are fires in poorer parts, the firefighters need to leave those fires and head to the rich people homes

[ChumpDumper]

Now I'll agree there's an argument the FD should be required to be on some kind of higher alert during these times, but money is currently an object so that leads to choices being made.

[DarrinS]

If there are fires in poorer parts, the firefighters need to leave those fires and head to the rich people homes

Dumb

[SnakeBoy]

If there are fires in poorer parts, the firefighters need to leave those fires and head to the rich people homes

So you're saying there weren't enough firefighters?

[ChumpDumper]

So you're saying there weren't enough firefighters?MOAR GOVERNMENT is a great pivot for you guys.:tu

[SnakeBoy]

Dumb

[SnakeBoy]

Flailing

[ChumpDumper]

Dumb


Flailing

I never said you were smart nor stable. Your contradictions are your problem.

[Blake]

Now I'll agree there's an argument the FD should be required to be on some kind of higher alert during these times, but money is currently an object so that leads to choices being made.

If conservatives would make up their mind if they want more government or less here....

[Blake]

So you're saying there weren't enough firefighters?

Beat me to your team's flip flop tendencies

[ChumpDumper]

If conservatives would make up their mind if they want more government or less here....snacks apparently is in favor of competing network state fire departments though he's too afraid to confirm or deny.

[DarrinS]

If conservatives would make up their mind if they want more government or less here....

I'm all for more firefighters and police. Not so much for more career bureaucrats.

[SnakeBoy]

snacks apparently is in favor of competing network state fire departments though he's too afraid to confirm or deny.

lol still wanting to talk about your Loomer conspiracy theory

[DarrinS]

I'm all for more firefighters and police. Not so much for more career bureaucrats.

Like this incompetent person who makes 750K

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-24/new-dwp-general-manager

[ChumpDumper]

lol still wanting to talk about your Loomer conspiracy theoryI'll let Thiel talk about it himself:

In our time, the great task for libertarians is to find an escape from politics in all its forms. … Because there are no truly free places left in our world, I suspect that the mode for escape must involve some sort of new and hitherto untried process that leads us to some undiscovered country; and for this reason I have focused my efforts on new technologies that may create a new space for freedom.

[SnakeBoy]

whatabout the Network State Monarchy :cry

[Blake]

I'm all for more firefighters and police. Not so much for more career bureaucrats.

I agree their ridiculously overpaid but in the grand scheme of a city budget, their salaries are a couple of drops in the bucket.

You pay for more firefighters and pd and you will most likely have to cut into other basic services. Where would you cut other than city manager salaries

[DarrinS]

I agree their ridiculously overpaid but in the grand scheme of a city budget, their salaries are a couple of drops in the bucket.

You pay for more firefighters and pd and you will most likely have to cut into other basic services. Where would you cut other than city manager salaries


3500 firefighters for 4M people

[SnakeBoy]

I agree their ridiculously overpaid but in the grand scheme of a city budget, their salaries are a couple of drops in the bucket.

You pay for more firefighters and pd and you will most likely have to cut into other basic services. Where would you cut other than city manager salaries

So LA taxes are too low?

[Blake]

3500 firefighters for 4M people


So LA taxes are too low?

Are they? Don't you guys hate taxes?

[SnakeBoy]

Are they? Don't you guys hate taxes?

I was asking you

[Blake]

I was asking you

I don't know their budget but if they need more FD/PD and don't want to cut into other services, I guess that's what they'd need to do. What do you think they should do?

[SnakeBoy]

I don't know their budget but if they need more FD/PD and don't want to cut into other services, I guess that's what they'd need to do. What do you think they should do?

I think Cali should raise taxes...a lot

[Blake]

I think Cali should raise taxes...a lot

I'd wager the majority of Republicans in California feel like they pay too much in taxes already.

[SnakeBoy]

I'd wager the majority of Republicans in California feel like they pay too much in taxes already.

I'd like the see the majority of Dems of Cali feel that way too

[TSA]

3500 firefighters for 4M people

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1879933924413239561

[Blake]

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1879933924413239561

So you're for raising taxes? Or do you have another means of adding additional funding for the fire dept?

[ChumpDumper]

The Republican pivot on government spending and taxation has been impressive.

[TSA]

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1879933924413239561

Meanwhile, debate about the level of funding for firefighters continues. In press conferences this week, Crowley was pressed about the budget, but seemed unwilling to confirm if LAFD’s stretched resources have indeed hampered its ability to fight fires.

On Friday though, she was more forthright, telling Fox11’s Gigi Graciette that “the fire department needs to be properly funded,” and she said it isn’t.

“This is more than a job to us, this is who we are, this our duty,” she said. “And when you don’t have that ability, when people don’t listen, that’s why I’m talking to you right now. The fire department needs to be funded – appropriately.”

Crowley told Graciette that she is unable to look “any community member in the eye and say, ‘The LAFD has got your back.’”

When Graciette asked Crowley, ‘Did they fail you?’ and after getting pressed several times, Crowley finally responded, ‘Yes.’

She raised similar worries in December about her department’s capacity to do its job. Asked by a commissioner at a Dec. 17 Fire Commissioner’s meeting whether she believed the department was sorely understaffed, she said yes.

“The LAFD is extremely understaffed and under-resourced,” Crowley told the fire commissioners.

She pointed to data from a two-year deployment analysis conducted for 2018 to 2020 that found the department only had half the staffing it needed compared to other departments across the country.

In a report talking about that analysis, Crowley wrote that her department has fewer fire stations than it did in the 1960s, even as the population of the city has grown.

“We’re going to have a robust conversation about where we need to take LAFD from now and into the future,” she also said. “We can no longer operate this way.”

Crowley was responding to a question by Fire Commissioner Genethia Hudley Hayes, who remarked in astonishment to the findings of the deployment report.

The deployment analysis is being discussed at the same time that the firefighters’ union is raising the idea of a new bond measure. United Firefighters of Los Angeles President Freddy Escobar remarked in public comment at the Dec. 17 meeting that there may be a need for another funding ballot measure, similar to the Prop. F bond measure that was approved in 2000 to open fire stations.

“We know the city is headed into tough financial times, but when it’s your home that is on fire, or when it’s your loved one himself in a heart attack, you know, we can’t wait,” Escobar said.

This was the same meeting where the fire commissioners also took up another report in which Crowley warned that the $819 million budget that city leaders adopted for the department in fiscal year 2024-25 – reducing the budget by $17.6 million from the previous year – would hinder services to support fighting wildfires, responding to major events and other needs.

And some Los Angeles city leaders are in the process of trying to claw back positions that were removed in the recent budget. That would include positions that support the maintenance of firefighting rigs. Right now, only 78% of the department’s fleet is operational, but its goal should be 90%, according to a report from Crowley seeking restoration of those positions.

https://boyleheightsbeat.com/los-angeles-fire-department-budget-cuts-city/

[baseline bum]

I'm all for more firefighters and police. Not so much for more career bureaucrats.

Worked amazing for Uvalde blowing all that money on shitbird police

[ChumpDumper]

Meanwhile, debate about the level of funding for firefighters continues. In press conferences this week, Crowley was pressed about the budget, but seemed unwilling to confirm if LAFD’s stretched resources have indeed hampered its ability to fight fires.

On Friday though, she was more forthright, telling Fox11’s Gigi Graciette that “the fire department needs to be properly funded,” and she said it isn’t.

“This is more than a job to us, this is who we are, this our duty,” she said. “And when you don’t have that ability, when people don’t listen, that’s why I’m talking to you right now. The fire department needs to be funded – appropriately.”

Crowley told Graciette that she is unable to look “any community member in the eye and say, ‘The LAFD has got your back.’”

When Graciette asked Crowley, ‘Did they fail you?’ and after getting pressed several times, Crowley finally responded, ‘Yes.’

She raised similar worries in December about her department’s capacity to do its job. Asked by a commissioner at a Dec. 17 Fire Commissioner’s meeting whether she believed the department was sorely understaffed, she said yes.

“The LAFD is extremely understaffed and under-resourced,” Crowley told the fire commissioners.

She pointed to data from a two-year deployment analysis conducted for 2018 to 2020 that found the department only had half the staffing it needed compared to other departments across the country.

In a report talking about that analysis, Crowley wrote that her department has fewer fire stations than it did in the 1960s, even as the population of the city has grown.

“We’re going to have a robust conversation about where we need to take LAFD from now and into the future,” she also said. “We can no longer operate this way.”

Crowley was responding to a question by Fire Commissioner Genethia Hudley Hayes, who remarked in astonishment to the findings of the deployment report.

The deployment analysis is being discussed at the same time that the firefighters’ union is raising the idea of a new bond measure. United Firefighters of Los Angeles President Freddy Escobar remarked in public comment at the Dec. 17 meeting that there may be a need for another funding ballot measure, similar to the Prop. F bond measure that was approved in 2000 to open fire stations.

“We know the city is headed into tough financial times, but when it’s your home that is on fire, or when it’s your loved one himself in a heart attack, you know, we can’t wait,” Escobar said.

This was the same meeting where the fire commissioners also took up another report in which Crowley warned that the $819 million budget that city leaders adopted for the department in fiscal year 2024-25 – reducing the budget by $17.6 million from the previous year – would hinder services to support fighting wildfires, responding to major events and other needs.

And some Los Angeles city leaders are in the process of trying to claw back positions that were removed in the recent budget. That would include positions that support the maintenance of firefighting rigs. Right now, only 78% of the department’s fleet is operational, but its goal should be 90%, according to a report from Crowley seeking restoration of those positions.

https://boyleheightsbeat.com/los-angeles-fire-department-budget-cuts-city/

:lol amazing

[SnakeBoy]

Worked amazing for Uvalde blowing all that money on shitbird police

DEI never works

[ChumpDumper]

DEI never works

What do you mean in this instance?

[Winehole23]

DEI never worksworks great for y'all as an excuse to deflect from the mediocrity of men and white people

[Winehole23]

It's a damn fact that US women as a cohort are more educated and competent than men

[ChumpDumper]

:lol white male ST Trumptards are lazy even when it comes to posting coherently. No wonder they always feel threatened.

[MannyIsGod]

Same idiots posting on here denying climate change for years (decades?) always looking for different shit to blame to the point that they support shit they were against before. Some of you have kids and you're leaving a world literally on fire to them because you were too stupid to listen to experts and instead wanted to be middle aged men acting like edge lords on a sports forum on the internet. Good job.

[Winehole23]

conditions have changed over time

Democrats are obviously to blame for the increase in the area burned


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhcrRfWWEAAz0hW?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

A 2024 study, “Mortality attributable to PM2.5 from wildland fires in California from 2008 to 2018 (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adl1252),” found that in 2018, the year the town of Paradise and several other communities burned, wildfire smoke may have killed as many as 12,000 Californians prematurely.

And over the 11 years from 2008 to 2018, wildfire smoke likely contributed to more than 52,000 premature deaths (https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.adl1252) across California – nearly 5,000 deaths per year – with an economic impact (https://www.epa.gov/environmental-economics/mortality-risk-valuation) from the deaths of more than $430 billion, the study found.

It’s a problem beyond California. A 2024 paper, “Long-term exposure to wildland fire smoke PM2.5 and mortality in the contiguous United States (https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2403960121),” found that long-term exposure to wildfire smoke was likely responsible for over 11,000 deaths per year between 2007 and 2020. Globally, 46,000-99,000 people die yearly from inhaling PM2.5 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-024-02149-1) released by wildfires
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/01/indirect-death-toll-from-the-l-a-fires-may-end-up-in-the-thousands/

[ChumpDumper]

Just another plot to make our children die from wearing masks.

[Winehole23]

Just another plot to make our children die from wearing masks.incurable spiritual damage is done by hiding their smiles from the world

[TSA]

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/01/indirect-death-toll-from-the-l-a-fires-may-end-up-in-the-thousands/

Over the last few decades, air in the U.S. has undergone a remarkable transformation: pollution levels of health-damaging tiny particles have dropped by roughly 40% since 2000, primarily thanks to the country's decades-long effort to improve air quality through the Clean Air Act, a landmark environmental law.

Smoke from wildfires fueled by human-driven climate change, however, has erased roughly 25% of those air quality gains, according to a new study published Wednesday in Nature. "We've seen really remarkable improvements in air quality," says Marissa Childs, one of the authors of the study and a researcher at Harvard's Center for the Environment. "But wildfire smoke is undoing that progress in many states."

The effects are more pronounced in Western states, where smoke-laden days have become an annual fact of life. Schools keep kids inside during recess; emergency rooms know to prepare when wildfires break out nearby. The study found that since 2016, in states like California, Washington and Oregon, wildfire smoke has added enough pollution to the air to wipe out nearly half of the total air quality gains made from 2000 onward.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1200143622/how-wildfire-smoke-is-erasing-years-of-progress-toward-cleaning-up-americas-air

Western states really need to be given the ok to start managing forests like Indigenous communities used to.

[Blake]

Over the last few decades, air in the U.S. has undergone a remarkable transformation: pollution levels of health-damaging tiny particles have dropped by roughly 40% since 2000, primarily thanks to the country's decades-long effort to improve air quality through the Clean Air Act, a landmark environmental law.

Smoke from wildfires fueled by human-driven climate change, however, has erased roughly 25% of those air quality gains, according to a new study published Wednesday in Nature. "We've seen really remarkable improvements in air quality," says Marissa Childs, one of the authors of the study and a researcher at Harvard's Center for the Environment. "But wildfire smoke is undoing that progress in many states."

The effects are more pronounced in Western states, where smoke-laden days have become an annual fact of life. Schools keep kids inside during recess; emergency rooms know to prepare when wildfires break out nearby. The study found that since 2016, in states like California, Washington and Oregon, wildfire smoke has added enough pollution to the air to wipe out nearly half of the total air quality gains made from 2000 onward.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1200143622/how-wildfire-smoke-is-erasing-years-of-progress-toward-cleaning-up-americas-air

Western states really need to be given the ok to start managing forests like Indigenous communities used to.

Then stop voting for conservative schmucks that only have the industrial communities' best financial interests at heart

[TSA]

Then stop voting for conservative schmucks that only have the industrial communities' best financial interests at heart

:lol stupid fuck thinking it's conservative schmucks preventing proper forest management.

[Winehole23]

Western states really need to be given the ok to start managing forests like Indigenous communities used to.Sounds like you know a little more about that than I do, but the appeal of removing fuel with controlled burns is intuitive.

[Blake]

:lol stupid fuck thinking it's conservative schmucks preventing proper forest management.

"Smokes from wildfires fueled by human-driven climate change"

[TSA]

"Smokes from wildfires fueled by human-driven climate change"

You're an idiot. The fuel for these wildfires isn't caused by climate change it's caused by forests not being managed properly by the states.

[ChumpDumper]

Over the last few decades, air in the U.S. has undergone a remarkable transformation: pollution levels of health-damaging tiny particles have dropped by roughly 40% since 2000, primarily thanks to the country's decades-long effort to improve air quality through the Clean Air Act, a landmark environmental law.Are these Trump actions going to help or hurt air quality?

1. Weakened Obama-era fuel economy and greenhouse gas standards for passenger cars and light trucks.

2. Revoked California’s ability to set stricter tailpipe emissions standards than the federal government.

3. Withdrew the legal justification for an Obama-era rule that limited mercury emissions from coal power plants.

4. Formally withdrew the United States from the Paris climate agreement, an international plan to avert catastrophic climate change adopted by nearly 200 counties.

5. Changed the way cost-benefit analyses are conducted under the Clean Air Act, potentially making it harder to issue new public health and climate protections.

6. Canceled a requirement for oil and gas companies to report methane emissions.

7. Revised and partially repealed an Obama-era rule limiting methane emissions on public lands, including intentional venting and flaring from drilling operations. A federal court struck down the revision in July 2020, calling the Trump administration’s reasoning “wholly inadequate” and mandating enforcement of the original rule. However, the Obama-era rule was later partially struck down in a separate court case, during which the Trump administration declined to defend it.

8. Eliminated Obama-era methane emissions standards for oil and gas facilities and narrowed standards limiting the release of other polluting chemicals known as “volatile organic compounds” to only certain facilities.

9. Withdrew a Clinton-era rule designed to limit toxic emissions from major industrial polluters, and later proposed codifying the looser standards.

10. Revised a program designed to safeguard communities from increases in pollution from new power plants to make it easier for facilities to avoid emissions regulations.

11. Amended rules that govern how refineries monitor pollution in surrounding communities.

12. Overturned Obama-era guidance meant to reduce emissions during power plant start-ups, shutdowns and malfunctions. As part of the process, the E.P.A. also reversed a requirement that Texas follow emissions rules during certain malfunction events.

13. Weakened an Obama-era rule meant to reduce air pollution in national parks and wilderness areas.

14. Weakened oversight of some state plans for reducing air pollution in national parks.

15. Established a minimum pollution threshold at which the E.P.A. can regulate greenhouse gas emissions from stationary sources: 3 percent of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. (Power plants meet this threshold, but oil and gas production facilities fall just below it.)

16. Relaxed air pollution regulations for a handful of plants that burn waste coal for electricity.

17. Repealed rules meant to reduce leaking and venting of powerful greenhouse gases known as hydrofluorocarbons from large refrigeration and air conditioning systems.

18. Directed agencies to stop using an Obama-era calculation of the social cost of carbon, which rulemakers used to estimate the long-term economic benefits of reducing carbon dioxide emissions.

19. Released new guidance that allows upwind states to contribute more ozone pollution to downwind states than during the Obama-era. (The E.P.A. under Mr. Trump also rejected petitions from a handful of states over failure to address upwind states’ pollution.)

20. Withdrew guidance directing federal agencies to include greenhouse gas emissions in environmental reviews. But several district courts have ruled that emissions must be included in such reviews.

21. Revoked an Obama executive order that set a goal of cutting the federal government’s greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent over 10 years.

22. Repealed a requirement that state and regional authorities track tailpipe emissions from vehicles on federal highways.

23. Lifted a summertime ban on the use of E15, a gasoline blend made of 15 percent ethanol. (Burning gasoline with a higher concentration of ethanol in hot conditions increases smog.)

24. Changed rules to allow states and the E.P.A. to take longer to develop and approve plans aimed at cutting methane emissions from existing landfills.

25. Withdrew a proposed rule aimed at reducing pollutants, including air pollution, at sewage treatment plants.

26. Threw out most of a proposed policy that would have tightened pollution standards for offshore oil and gas operations and required them to use improved pollution controls.

27. Amended Obama-era emissions standards for clay ceramics manufacturers.

28. Relaxed some Obama-era requirements for companies to monitor and repair leaks at oil and gas facilities, including exempting certain low-production wells – a significant source of methane emissions – from the requirements altogether. (Other leak regulations were eliminated.)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html

[ChumpDumper]

[double post]

[TSA]

Sounds like you know a little more about that than I do, but the appeal of removing fuel with controlled burns is intuitive.

I've lived in Southern California pretty much my whole life and have been through quite a few wildfires very close to home. Evacuated twice from my home in North San Diego County. We don't have the forests to deal with down here and the removal of brush by both the cities and private parties is pretty good. Response by Cal Fire and local fire departments has gotten very good over the last five years so luckily the fires here have been managed extremely well. Air response is incredible to watch. Northern California is a different story.

[Blake]

You're an idiot. The fuel for these wildfires isn't caused by climate change it's caused by forests not being managed properly by the states.

Lol "you're an idiot".

I posted YOUR article word for word.

[SnakeBoy]

The aftermath of the LA wildfires has seen a new hazard emerge due to Tesla's and other carmakers' lithium batteries complicating cleanup operations.

These batteries require specialized removal from the toxic debris scattered by the fires, further postponing residents' return to their homes. "A lot of the cars in the evacuation area were lithium batteries," stated Jacqui Irwin, who represents the heavily affected Pacific Palisades area in the state assembly.

She noted that firefighters reported these batteries caused longer-burning fires near residences, especially those equipped with power walls. Tragically, the wildfires claimed at least 27 lives and took down nearly 10,000 structures since they ignited on January 7.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/burnt-out-teslas-block-la-wildfire-victims-from-returning-to-homes-amid-cleanup-crisis/ar-AA1xokx4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7464c6e23b4f4d3996df1e4e41df9d70&ei=28

[ChumpDumper]

The aftermath of the LA wildfires has seen a new hazard emerge due to Tesla's and other carmakers' lithium batteries complicating cleanup operations.

These batteries require specialized removal from the toxic debris scattered by the fires, further postponing residents' return to their homes. "A lot of the cars in the evacuation area were lithium batteries," stated Jacqui Irwin, who represents the heavily affected Pacific Palisades area in the state assembly.

She noted that firefighters reported these batteries caused longer-burning fires near residences, especially those equipped with power walls. Tragically, the wildfires claimed at least 27 lives and took down nearly 10,000 structures since they ignited on January 7.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/burnt-out-teslas-block-la-wildfire-victims-from-returning-to-homes-amid-cleanup-crisis/ar-AA1xokx4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7464c6e23b4f4d3996df1e4e41df9d70&ei=28

Take it up with your Elon.

[Winehole23]

AMOC not slowing down according to one measurement?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-55297-5

[Blake]

"President Donald Trump said Monday he will again withdraw the United States from the landmark Paris climate agreement, dealing a blow to worldwide efforts to combat global warming and once again distancing the U.S. from its closest allies.

The announcement, which came the day Mr. Trump was sworn in to a second term, echoed Trump's actions in 2017, when he announced that the U.S. would abandon the global Paris accord. President Biden later rejoined...."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-withdrawing-us-paris-climate-agreement-again/

Delicious liberal tears

[Winehole23]

we just joined a club with Iran, Libya and Yemen in it

[Blake]

we just joined a club with Iran, Libya and Yemen in it

And getting high fives from Putin again

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lb7jeizjwxjcn3bvkohqxkba/bafkreiakmnn42vrrgpnx76s5drrrn5tbymmqsaanuwijdnghw otlrs5zpu@jpeg

[Blake]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lb7jeizjwxjcn3bvkohqxkba/bafkreiakmnn42vrrgpnx76s5drrrn5tbymmqsaanuwijdnghw otlrs5zpu@jpeg

Just a phase!

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lb7jeizjwxjcn3bvkohqxkba/bafkreifbsihpiak2yruhhrynyfjpr2g45impyzq3r7joyciy2 matcsfsue@jpeg

[baseline bum]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lb7jeizjwxjcn3bvkohqxkba/bafkreiakmnn42vrrgpnx76s5drrrn5tbymmqsaanuwijdnghw otlrs5zpu@jpeg

JFC we just blasted through that 1.5C limit we weren't supposed to cross for another 20 years.

[SnakeBoy]

JFC we just blasted through that 1.5C limit we weren't supposed to cross for another 20 years.

What do you want to do about it?

[ChumpDumper]

What do you want to do about it?
Why do you want it to get worse?

[SnakeBoy]

Why do you want it to get worse?

Straight to the strawman...nice.

[ChumpDumper]

Straight to the strawman...nice.Do you not want it to get worse?

Please answer honestly so we know where you stand.

[baseline bum]

Straight to the strawman...nice.

LOL throwing stones when your next question to me would be why I don't turn off my AC in the summer

[SnakeBoy]

LOL throwing stones when your next question to me would be why I don't turn off my AC in the summer

No answer as expected

[ChumpDumper]

No answer as expected

Do you not want it to get worse?

[Winehole23]

Demands answers, gives none.

Snake Boy is a straight shit poster -- there's not very much there

[Blake]

No answer as expected

How many times has he answered this for you?

[Winehole23]

Trump to California, FU


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[Winehole23]

"FEMA is gonna be a whole big discussion very shortly, because I'd rather see the states takes care of their own problems."

[Blake]

Just like the first go round, there's no way we'll be able to keep up with the straight forward in your face contradictions

[Thread]

Just like the first go round, there's no way we'll be able to keep up with the straight forward in your face contradictions

& he's amazing with 'em. And the common man understands that horseshit; finds it pleasant and comforting, harmless, good natured.