Record for most days over 100 degrees per year in San Antonio

[SnakeBoy]

It's like we live in Texas or something

[baseline bum]

It's like we live in Texas or something

Average first day of 100 is June 23rd and we're forecast to get blocks of 106 together. That shit's not normal. A bunch of 106 days together isn't even normal for August.

[baseline bum]

Absolutely sucks.
We knew this drastic variation in temperature was coming.
But this quickly?

No idea how easily this can be reversed and how quickly.

We have a strong El Nino and we're still getting hammered like our triple dip La Nina year. This area is going to really suck in 35-40 years as global warming continues its march unabated.

[pgardn]

It's like we live in Texas or something

Fkn meathead.
Was it like Texas during Abbott’s Winter fk up?

[pgardn]

We have a strong El Nino and we're still getting hammered like our triple dip La Nina year. This area is going to really suck in 35-40 years as global warming continues its march unabated.

Good point.
If we get some precipitation with this it would help the vegetation. (Farmers and such)
The humidity would be a killer though.

[pgardn]

It's like we live on Venus or something

[TSA]

Average first day of 100 is June 23rd and we're forecast to get blocks of 106 together. That shit's not normal. A bunch of 106 days together isn't even normal for August.

You should move to San Diego. We just had the coolest May temps we've had in 20 years. June is shaping up to be the coolest in 20 years as well. Been weird...feel like we've only had a sunny day a few times in the last month.

[pgardn]

You should move to San Diego. We just had the coolest May temps we've had in 20 years. June is shaping up to be the coolest in 20 years as well. Been weird...feel like we've only had a sunny day a few times in the last month.

Exactly the type of thing predicted. Large variations with the average world temps going up.
Our May and part of June was very nice. Much nicer than last year. Now flip the switch.

[SnakeBoy]

We have a strong El Nino and we're still getting hammered like our triple dip La Nina year. This area is going to really suck in 35-40 years as global warming continues its march unabated.

El Nino has just begun. We won't really see it's effects here until fall/winter. Hopefully some good flooding.

[SnakeBoy]

Maybe this early heat will give a better chance at some tropical systems over the summer. That would be nice.

[baseline bum]

Maybe this early heat will give a better chance at some tropical systems over the summer. That would be nice.

Probably not with a strong El Nino that sends strong wind shear into the Gulf by moving the jet stream south

[baseline bum]

Fkn meathead.
Was it like Texas during Abbott’s Winter fk up?

Gotta wonder if the Abbott / Perry shitty grid is going to hold up over the next week. Came pretty close to rolling blackouts last July when we had a stretch of extreme weather like this.

[SnakeBoy]

Probably not with a strong El Nino that sends strong wind shear into the Gulf by moving the jet stream south

Jet streamed hasn't changed to an El Nino pattern. Probably won't until fall/winter.

[Blake]

You should move to San Diego. We just had the coolest May temps we've had in 20 years. June is shaping up to be the coolest in 20 years as well. Been weird...feel like we've only had a sunny day a few times in the last month.

SAN DIEGO — Every decade the National Weather Service recalibrates the annual average temperature for all locations across the country, and over the last 10 years, San Diego has set a record almost every year.

And San Diego is not alone. Since 2010 there have been record temperatures nationwide, according to Alex Tardy, a Meteorologist at the National Weather Service in San Diego.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/weather/san-diego-temperatures-rising-the-past-decade-set-records/509-0217dcf6-6655-4891-853f-8b343b54b72d


You believe in conspiracies and aliens but climate? Your overlords tell you it's just normal so you believe em

[Winehole23]

Gotta wonder if the Abbott / Perry shitty grid is going to hold up over the next week. Came pretty close to rolling blackouts last July when we had a stretch of extreme weather like this.solar has been giving us the cushion we need for record demand, too bad the lege took a pass on demand side solutions this session.

[baseline bum]

You should move to San Diego. We just had the coolest May temps we've had in 20 years. June is shaping up to be the coolest in 20 years as well. Been weird...feel like we've only had a sunny day a few times in the last month.

Maybe if Wemby busts

[SnakeBoy]

https://doodleordie.s3.amazonaws.com/d/5G5OoVET1/J2sH_OsvFu.png

[Chucho]

Been really nice over here. Havent gone over 84 as a high in almost 3 weeks. Nervous when the other shoe drops, tho.

[baseline bum]

Been really nice over here. Havent gone over 84 as a high in almost 3 weeks. Nervous when the other shoe drops, tho.

Pretty much how I felt in May and early June where days were mostly in the 80s, though was expecting the other shoe dropping to be like we're back to 97-100 not 103-106 given it's no longer La Nina.

[Chucho]

Pretty much how I felt in May and early June where days were mostly in the 80s, though was expecting the other shoe dropping to be like we're back to 97-100 not 103-106 given it's no longer La Nina.

I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.

[pgardn]

This is Snake denying there is air because he cant see it.

https://doodleordie.s3.amazonaws.com/d/5G5OoVET1/J2sH_OsvFu.png

[baseline bum]

I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.

I hate when people act like 44% isn't high humidity either, that's fucking gross when it's 96 degrees; it's a 70.5 degree dewpoint. That's about where we're at the last few days, 95-97 with dewpoints 70-74 and you go outside for five minutes and just feel fucking sticky when you come in. Last year we were having days of 105 with dewpoints like 75 and god I fucking hope we don't have that again with this heat wave. Usually if we get over 100 at least the dewpoints drop into the mid to high 50s but not last year.

[TSA]

SAN DIEGO — Every decade the National Weather Service recalibrates the annual average temperature for all locations across the country, and over the last 10 years, San Diego has set a record almost every year.

And San Diego is not alone. Since 2010 there have been record temperatures nationwide, according to Alex Tardy, a Meteorologist at the National Weather Service in San Diego.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/weather/san-diego-temperatures-rising-the-past-decade-set-records/509-0217dcf6-6655-4891-853f-8b343b54b72d


You believe in conspiracies and aliens but climate? Your overlords tell you it's just normal so you believe em

I don't believe in climate change?!?! lol your assumptions are so fucking stupid it hurts.

A large portion of my job is tracking climate change, average temps, and average rainfall here in California. Based on my findings I advise where we plant, what variety we plant, and when we harvest. I do the same in our growing regions in Mexico, Peru, and Chile. Thanks for the link though lol I needed the laugh. I have spreadsheets I've created with average temps, average rainfall, and soil conditions for every city within 40 miles of the California coast from San Diego to Morro Bay. I see firsthand on a daily basis how the climate is changing and what it is affecting, my job depends on believing in it and adapting to it.

When I have free time I spend a lot of it running the deck for my best friend and captain's long range fishing boat. Water temp is one of the most important metrics we use when on the water fishing tuna. The changes in water temps over the years off the coast of San Diego and down into Mexico are definitely not normal and it's changed bait movement, how we rig gear, and what we fish for. We've been catching Wahoo off the coast of San Diego...that shit didn't happen regularly 10 years ago. The size and frequency of large bluefin we are catching now weren't seen 10 years ago. Ocean temps rising off of California/Mexico have actually been hugely beneficial to those of us that fish the ocean.

I also spend a good amount of free time hunting and you guessed it...climate change has affected that as well. Deer movement isn't the same in the mountains I grew up hunting because of changes to the landscape because of warming temps. Certain bird species I used to hunt no longer fly into bodies of water they used to or forage in fields I used to hunt when I was younger because climate change has affected their food source.

TLDR cause I know you hate reading anything over a single sentence...you're a fucking idiot for saying I don't believe in climate change as my job and life outside of work are intimately connected to climate change.

[baseline bum]

I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.

Also since you're there, have you taken a road trip to Yosemite this year? The Mist Trail must be nuts right now with how much snowpack the Sierras got last winter. First time I hiked it in spring 2006 after another heavy snow year I must have had wood half the hike from passing so many hot women in wet white T-shirts from how much the Merced River was roaring over the falls. :lol

[TSA]

I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.

Yuck. I remember summers when I was at Chico State...that shit was nasty.

[TSA]

Also since you're there, have you taken a road trip to Yosemite this year? The Mist Trail must be nuts right now with how much snowpack the Sierras got last winter. First time I hiked it in spring 2006 after another heavy snow year I must have had wood half the hike from passing so many hot women in wet white T-shirts from how much the Merced River was roaring over the falls. :lol

I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm fucking bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Gotta wonder if the Abbott / Perry shitty grid is going to hold up over the next week. Came pretty close to rolling blackouts last July when we had a stretch of extreme weather like this.

No way over knowing as there is no informational oversight despite Abbott's own commissions telling him he needs to create that.

[baseline bum]

I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm fucking bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.

Damn. Seriously though if you have a chance, check out the waterfalls in Yosemite in the next couple of weeks if you have never been in a June with a large snowpack. Extremely impressive hike plus it's not too hard, especially when being cooled by the mist from under Vernal Fall. Under Nevada Fall you might not catch too much mist since the climb is farther away than the one up Vernal Fall, still nice though. Plus at the top you can scoff all the tourons saying they're on their way to Half Dome holding only one almost empty 20 oz water bottle asking you for water. Ugh made the mistake of pulling out my water pump at the top of Nevada Fall one time.

[TSA]

Damn. Seriously though if you have a chance, check out the waterfalls in Yosemite in the next couple of weeks if you have never been in a June with a large snowpack. Extremely impressive hike plus it's not too hard, especially when being cooled by the mist from under Vernal Fall. Under Nevada Fall you might not catch too much mist since the climb is farther away than the one up Vernal Fall, still nice though. Plus at the top you can scoff all the tourons saying they're on their way to Half Dome holding only one almost empty 20 oz water bottle asking you for water. Ugh made the mistake of pulling out my water pump at the top of Nevada Fall one time.

You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.

[leemajors]

I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm fucking bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.

One of my good buddies lives in Reno and his fiancee is in Truckee. He sent me pics all winter of the snow being above the rim of the hoop in her driveway, then above the roof itself, it was nuts.

[TSA]

One of my good buddies lives in Reno and his fiancee is in Truckee. He sent me pics all winter of the snow being above the rim of the hoop in her driveway, then above the roof itself, it was nuts.

My cousin lives in Olympic Village and sent pictures from the cabin and showing how high the snow came up and I can't ever wrap my head around it. After a really heavy night they woke up and couldn't get their front door open so he went to the second floor and that window was blocked in by snow. Had to go to the third story window to get out :lol Absolutely crazy how much snow they got. The pictures I saw from Mammoth this year at a condo we stay at were even crazier. I was up there this last winter and we called our trip early and headed home after seeing the incoming storm. Glad we did because my friends who stayed were stuck up there for over a week waiting for their road to get plowed.

Speaking of Truckee have you been there lately? Drove in to downtown last year after not having been there for a few years and their downtown area was really popping. Nice now to be able get out of Squaw Valley and not get raped on prices and still have some cool restaurants to eat at without the douchey Tahoe crowd.

[leemajors]

My cousin lives in Olympic Village and sent pictures from the cabin and showing how high the snow came up and I can't ever wrap my head around it. After a really heavy night they woke up and couldn't get their front door open so he went to the second floor and that window was blocked in by snow. Had to go to the third story window to get out :lol Absolutely crazy how much snow they got. The pictures I saw from Mammoth this year at a condo we stay at were even crazier. I was up there this last winter and we called our trip early and headed home after seeing the incoming storm. Glad we did because my friends who stayed were stuck up there for over a week waiting for their road to get plowed.

Speaking of Truckee have you been there lately? Drove in to downtown last year after not having been there for a few years and their downtown area was really popping. Nice now to be able get out of Squaw Valley and not get raped on prices and still have some cool restaurants to eat at without the douchey Tahoe crowd.

I haven't been out there yet, but want to go soon. My daughter is starting at UNM in August, so maybe we will head up there one of the next couple summers.

[baseline bum]

You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.

Nah I wouldn't advise doing it then. Stroller is an absolute no-go. The steps under Vernal Fall are really slippery when the fall is raging like it should be now. Plus the steps are kind of high for a five year old and it's a couple thousand feet of elevation gain to get to the top of the second fall (Nevada Fall) if I remember right. Probably something better to put off until the kids are like 9-10. Here's an idea of what the steps under Vernal Fall look like:

https://www.yosemitehikes.com/images/ns/vernal-fall-750h.jpg

The ones up to Nevada Fall on the Mist Trail are quite a bit steeper but they shouldn't be wet and slippery like the ones under Vernal will be.

The John Muir Trail can also be taken to both waterfalls and you won't have to worry about slipping with a kid on your back throwing off your balance and with a five year old. I have never hiked that section of the JMT before but horses can use it so it's probably way smoother going and you don't have to worry about your five year old slipping.

The JMT is in light blue here. Mist Trail in red and yellow.

https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemite-valley/mist-trail/trail-map.htm

Just make sure your kids know to respect the Merced River because people get swept over Vernal Fall to their deaths all the time and there's an area that looks calm but can have very strong undercurrents. Though then again right now I imagine no part of the Merced over Vernal Fall looks calm.

[Blake]

I don't believe in climate change?!?! lol your assumptions are so fucking stupid it hurts.

A large portion of my job is tracking climate change, average temps, and average rainfall here in California. Based on my findings I advise where we plant, what variety we plant, and when we harvest. I do the same in our growing regions in Mexico, Peru, and Chile. Thanks for the link though lol I needed the laugh. I have spreadsheets I've created with average temps, average rainfall, and soil conditions for every city within 40 miles of the California coast from San Diego to Morro Bay. I see firsthand on a daily basis how the climate is changing and what it is affecting, my job depends on believing in it and adapting to it.

When I have free time I spend a lot of it running the deck for my best friend and captain's long range fishing boat. Water temp is one of the most important metrics we use when on the water fishing tuna. The changes in water temps over the years off the coast of San Diego and down into Mexico are definitely not normal and it's changed bait movement, how we rig gear, and what we fish for. We've been catching Wahoo off the coast of San Diego...that shit didn't happen regularly 10 years ago. The size and frequency of large bluefin we are catching now weren't seen 10 years ago. Ocean temps rising off of California/Mexico have actually been hugely beneficial to those of us that fish the ocean.

I also spend a good amount of free time hunting and you guessed it...climate change has affected that as well. Deer movement isn't the same in the mountains I grew up hunting because of changes to the landscape because of warming temps. Certain bird species I used to hunt no longer fly into bodies of water they used to or forage in fields I used to hunt when I was younger because climate change has affected their food source.

TLDR cause I know you hate reading anything over a single sentence...you're a fucking idiot for saying I don't believe in climate change as my job and life outside of work are intimately connected to climate change.

Great, what's causing the climate change in your opinion?

[baseline bum]

I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.

Blech 95 right now with dewpoint of 77 (so 58% relative humidity). Dewpoint of 77 is insanely humid here even for 3AM when it's clouded over much less 3PM and is giving us a heat index of 111 right now and we'll probably end up at 100 with a heat index of like 116 by the time 6PM rolls around. :vomit:

[pgardn]

Blech 95 right now with dewpoint of 77 (so 58% relative humidity). Dewpoint of 77 is insanely humid here even for 3AM when it's clouded over much less 3PM and is giving us a heat index of 111 right now and we'll probably end up at 100 with a heat index of like 116 by the time 6PM rolls around. :vomit:

The bum is a weather guy I see.

I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.
For instance, riding a bike on our Greenway Trails is a great way to beat the heat. I put on a wicking head rag hanging over my head and neck and and go fast enough to get a very nice experience with evaporative cooling while riding the portions of the trail that are more shaded. But when the temps get this high and the humidity is too high it gets really rough. You can feel the difference riding through sunny vegetative areas vs. underneath the road ways and such down low. There is a notable "wave" of hot humid air out in the open with all the vegetation giving of water vapor. Its very noticeable and suffocating if you stay in it for a good length of time. Going underneath IH 10 and 1604 and a lot of the elevated roadways you get a noticeable "blob" of cooler humid air. Its quite strange but very evident.

And after riding yesterday I realize I dont really need to resoak my head rag and upper body as they just dont evaporate much water, even in a stiffer wind. If there is zero wind like yesterday, its really sort of self defeating exercise. And if the air quality is bad its really depressing as I thought I had found a good way to get a good workout other than running which is just miserable. And I hate going inside on a treadmill, hate it.... So Swimming gets the nod on days like these but swimming really does not do the leg work that biking, and especially running require. Even just working with a paddle board and kicking. It just does not use the large muscles of the legs.

[leemajors]

The bum is a weather guy I see.

I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.
For instance, riding a bike on our Greenway Trails is a great way to beat the heat. I put on a wicking head rag hanging over my head and neck and and go fast enough to get a very nice experience with evaporative cooling while riding the portions of the trail that are more shaded. But when the temps get this high and the humidity is too high it gets really rough. You can feel the difference riding through sunny vegetative areas vs. underneath the road ways and such down low. There is a notable "wave" of hot humid air out in the open with all the vegetation giving of water vapor. Its very noticeable and suffocating if you stay in it for a good length of time. Going underneath IH 10 and 1604 and a lot of the elevated roadways you get a noticeable "blob" of cooler humid air. Its quite strange but very evident.

And after riding yesterday I realize I dont really need to resoak my head rag and upper body as they just dont evaporate much water, even in a stiffer wind. If there is zero wind like yesterday, its really sort of self defeating exercise. And if the air quality is bad its really depressing as I thought I had found a good way to get a good workout other than running which is just miserable. And I hate going inside on a treadmill, hate it.... So Swimming gets the nod on days like these but swimming really does not do the leg work that biking, and especially running require. Even just working with a paddle board and kicking. It just does not use the large muscles of the legs.

Do more laps, swim team doing 50-100 laps was brutal. If you know how to backstroke, that works your legs a lot too.

[pgardn]

Do more laps, swim team doing 50-100 laps was brutal. If you know how to backstroke, that works your legs a lot too.

Im terrible at backstroke. Cannot do butterfly, no fn way. Breaststroke you can take very easy so I prefer freestyle.
I do use the swim fins on my back and kick the legs with arms out in front and pointed forward hands together. I guess Ill do more of that? The swim fins get you going really fast but they take it out of your legs quickly. I dont do all that well without fins and not using the arms on the back. I go at lunch so I often have to share lanes so I usually dont like to do anything on my back so as to stay straight path so I dont crash into anyone. I have already hit fingers on freestyle with people and it was not pleasant. Nor is hitting the hard plastic lane lines. But its great coming back to work after swimming, eating, and finishing the day out and then bike in the evenings.

I grew up swimming in rivers, streams and lakes. Never formal swimming, just survival swimming. When I started swimming laps it was difficult. Even if I have good endurance from running, swimming is just more technical if you really want to be efficient and not get shoulder problems I have learned. We actually get occasional access to the 50 meter lanes and I absolutely love that. I feel like I can really get in a groove and not be turning after 25 yards. More time actually swimming. And Im not good at the flip turn so... yeah. I love it, but I did not grow up with swimming laps.

I was thinking of using that floaty between the legs but I do a pretty good job of kicking just enough so I keep my body flat and not dragging so I dont know how much that would help the mechanics of my freestyle. I youtube effortless swimming and they have some good tips but Im basically self taught. And Effortless Swimming puts a bit more emphasis on open water Triathlon swimming where you have to take a look up every once in a while to get your bearings.

I do 34 back and forth in the 25 yard lanes so I guess thats 68 labs. Around a mile. But I dont push hard. So I guess I do increments of 50, 100,150... to 400 yards. I think on average it takes about 23-24 seconds per "lap" or just a bit over a yard a second. I think Im getting better but I probably need an instructor. Some people at the pool who are really good swimmers have been helpful because they see I am getting better, but for something technical like swimming I need real help.

I think I probably made this too long but I really like swimming to take away running pounding. So I do like suggestions from people who have actually done this on a higher level.

Edit: I eat a ton of food after swimming. It makes me much hungrier than running. Cant quite figure out why. Running burns more calories. Maybe the water being "cold" and restoration of body heat uses calories?

[baseline bum]

I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.


Ugh our dew point is back to 80. Even Thailand isn't this fucking humid right now.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ugh our dew point is back to 80. Even Thailand isn't this fucking humid right now.

It's like going to spend a summer in fucking Chennai or something except without actual rain to cool things down for a little while.

[leemajors]

Im terrible at backstroke. Cannot do butterfly, no fn way. Breaststroke you can take very easy so I prefer freestyle.
I do use the swim fins on my back and kick the legs with arms out in front and pointed forward hands together. I guess Ill do more of that? The swim fins get you going really fast but they take it out of your legs quickly. I dont do all that well without fins and not using the arms on the back. I go at lunch so I often have to share lanes so I usually dont like to do anything on my back so as to stay straight path so I dont crash into anyone. I have already hit fingers on freestyle with people and it was not pleasant. Nor is hitting the hard plastic lane lines. But its great coming back to work after swimming, eating, and finishing the day out and then bike in the evenings.

I grew up swimming in rivers, streams and lakes. Never formal swimming, just survival swimming. When I started swimming laps it was difficult. Even if I have good endurance from running, swimming is just more technical if you really want to be efficient and not get shoulder problems I have learned. We actually get occasional access to the 50 meter lanes and I absolutely love that. I feel like I can really get in a groove and not be turning after 25 yards. More time actually swimming. And Im not good at the flip turn so... yeah. I love it, but I did not grow up with swimming laps.

I was thinking of using that floaty between the legs but I do a pretty good job of kicking just enough so I keep my body flat and not dragging so I dont know how much that would help the mechanics of my freestyle. I youtube effortless swimming and they have some good tips but Im basically self taught. And Effortless Swimming puts a bit more emphasis on open water Triathlon swimming where you have to take a look up every once in a while to get your bearings.

I do 34 back and forth in the 25 yard lanes so I guess thats 68 labs. Around a mile. But I dont push hard. So I guess I do increments of 50, 100,150... to 400 yards. I think on average it takes about 23-24 seconds per "lap" or just a bit over a yard a second. I think Im getting better but I probably need an instructor. Some people at the pool who are really good swimmers have been helpful because they see I am getting better, but for something technical like swimming I need real help.

I think I probably made this too long but I really like swimming to take away running pounding. So I do like suggestions from people who have actually done this on a higher level.

Edit: I eat a ton of food after swimming. It makes me much hungrier than running. Cant quite figure out why. Running burns more calories. Maybe the water being "cold" and restoration of body heat uses calories?

Swimming works your whole body, not just your legs. Over time running burns more, usually just because people don't swim for as long as they run.

[baseline bum]

Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.

[Robz4000]

Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.

Been working in it all day, can confirm I'm dying.

[Blake]

Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.

Even the pool isn't refreshing

[Tyronn Lue]

Like Blake said, the pool in the complex doesn't really help like it would with lower humidity but high heat.

[pgardn]

I swam and biked today.
The biking came in the evening.

The biking was very difficult and I wont be doing it again with these temps and humidity.
I think it did more harm than good. I know the current ideas say you can acclimate. If you are an African Pygmy living in the Congo Jungle.

I think windspeed needs to be considered along with temp and humidity. When its perfectly still, its perfectly miserable.
Everytime I stopped to drink it was awful.

[pgardn]

Swimming works your whole body, not just your legs. Over time running burns more, usually just because people don't swim for as long as they run.

Absolutely.
Its wonderful at the NISD complex. Pool is still cool. I think they have to keep it cool enough for competitions so it will be interesting to see how the outdoor v. the indoor Olympic size pools vary in temps.

Found this as well.
Running does burn more calories per unit time. 20 minutes and longer.

So I dont get why I am so hungry after swimming and not running.
Maybe its just my body-brain interaction. Which is already strange enough...

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn. Been at the house in Colorado for a week. Low in the 30s at night, high in the 60-low 70s. Spending the night in Amarillo on the way back to hell. Just found out today my AC at home is out. Gonna be a big suck.

[CosmicCowboy]

Speaking of Amarillo their weather has been crazy. Huge rainfall and in flat Amarillo no place for the water to go. Huge swaths of neighborhoods. Apartments etc. flooded.

[Winehole23]

Damn. Been at the house in Colorado for a week. Low in the 30s at night, high in the 60-low 70s. Spending the night in Amarillo on the way back to hell. Just found out today my AC at home is out. Gonna be a big suck.Oregon was lovely, but very young family members can be limiting. Plus side, you can have more fun together at or near the same place -- or fuck it, someplace totally unrelated -- when they get a little older and stronger.

[pgardn]

Damn. Been at the house in Colorado for a week. Low in the 30s at night, high in the 60-low 70s. Spending the night in Amarillo on the way back to hell. Just found out today my AC at home is out. Gonna be a big suck.

So you sold in Crested Butte and bought somewhere else?
Just interested as I was just there for about a week.
They have had a hell of a lot of rain on the eastern side of the mountains.
The population of rabbits, mice, kangaroo rat type critters has skyrocketed.
The reptiles, bullsnakes, rat snakes, rattlesnakes... the big barn snakes have not caught up yet. I imagine they should increase by the end of the summer because there is a ton of food to be eaten.

[CosmicCowboy]

So you sold in Crested Butte and bought somewhere else?
Just interested as I was just there for about a week.
They have had a hell of a lot of rain on the eastern side of the mountains.
The population of rabbits, mice, kangaroo rat type critters has skyrocketed.
The reptiles, bullsnakes, rat snakes, rattlesnakes... the big barn snakes have not caught up yet. I imagine they should increase by the end of the summer because there is a ton of food to be eaten. I am 15 miles from CB. House is an acre with 500 feet of Spring Creek (which in Texas we would call a year round river, its bigger than the Medina River). If you were in CB you should know where Almont (three rivers) is. Haven't noticed a huge upswing in the rodent/snake population. Saw bighorn sheep, moose, elk and deer this week. Always on the alert for bears as they are a normal thing you deal with, especially in the spring and fall. Mountain lions move into our valley in the winter especially following the deer out of the snowed in higher elevations. We had a huge snowfall this winter and even had about 4' at the house where I am at. More like 10 feet at CB. Lakes are all full again after several years of semi drought.

[CosmicCowboy]

The afternoon rains are normal all summer on the western slope where we are. Thats why the wildflowers are so amazing in July.

[pgardn]

I am 15 miles from CB. House is an acre with 500 feet of Spring Creek (which in Texas we would call a year round river, its bigger than the Medina River). If you were in CB you should know where Almont (three rivers) is. Haven't noticed a huge upswing in the rodent/snake population. Saw bighorn sheep, moose, elk and deer this week. Always on the alert for bears as they are a normal thing you deal with, especially in the spring and fall. Mountain lions move into our valley in the winter especially following the deer out of the snowed in higher elevations. We had a huge snowfall this winter and even had about 4' at the house where I am at. More like 10 feet at CB. Lakes are all full again after several years of semi drought.

So you are sort of along the road from CB to Gunnison. That big river? I ski up there, never been in the summer.
I was just helping some friends around Fort Collins. Eastern plains it’s still raining. It’s as green as I have ever seen it. Flying over all that brown and it’s shockingly green closer to the mountains. I was in awe.

[baseline bum]

JFC the dew point is 82 out here. I can't recall ever seeing it that high before. Guessing tomorrow's going to smash the all-time heat index record San Antonio set yesterday.

[Winehole23]

"wet bulb temperature"

https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/definitions/dry_wet_bulb_definition/dry_wet_bulb.html#:~:text=Wet%20Bulb%20temperature %20can%20be,bulb%20temperature%22%20in%20the%20air .

[baseline bum]

"wet bulb temperature"

https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/definitions/dry_wet_bulb_definition/dry_wet_bulb.html#:~:text=Wet%20Bulb%20temperature %20can%20be,bulb%20temperature%22%20in%20the%20air .

That was a wet bulb of 82.5F yesterday night at its worst. Two days ago it was 83.8F at its worst when it was 101F with a dewpoint of 77F.

[CosmicCowboy]

So you are sort of along the road from CB to Gunnison. That big river? I ski up there, never been in the summer.
I was just helping some friends around Fort Collins. Eastern plains it’s still raining. It’s as green as I have ever seen it. Flying over all that brown and it’s shockingly green closer to the mountains. I was in awe. Yeah CB is a great ski area. I have skied almost every big resort in Colorado and CB was my all time favorite. Great black and double black runs. Summertime is amazing. You would love the mountain biking. They have extensive networks of trails. It's also the wildflower capital of Colorado.

[pgardn]

Yeah CB is a great ski area. I have skied almost every big resort in Colorado and CB was my all time favorite. Great black and double black runs. Summertime is amazing. You would love the mountain biking. They have extensive networks of trails. It's also the wildflower capital of Colorado.

Yeah I saw some raised “boardwalks” through the snow and found out that was part of the system.
I was never an off road/or bmxbiker as a kid like a bunch of my friends who also liked being outdoors. My lack of experience could be a big problem. But I certainly could get into shape given the altitude.
Being a once a year skier I would not touch one whole part of CB with double diamonds. I like the long drawn out slopes you can get on the Paradise lift. If I skied consistently up there I would have already hurt myself. As it stands my knees and endurance are very good so I figure I would stay that way. It’s almost a given if I lived there I would already have been injured and would not stop skiing after recovering. I also would have learned how to fly fish well if I lived up there. And probably been a river kayaker instead of an ocean kayaker. Surprisingly I have learned how to read water fairly well just by kayaking the Devils and Llano rivers a number of times. I like the saltwater fishing much more than fresh. That would not be the case if I lived in Colorado most likely. (Or any big western State with trout)

[Tyronn Lue]

This heat requires the tall boy

[baseline bum]

This heat requires the tall boy

At least the humidity is going down. Still high as hell but it's 72 degrees right now with the temp at 97 vs a couple of days ago when the dewpoint was 77 with a temp of 101. Even 102 with a 72 dewpoint isn't going to look too bad compared with 101 with a 77 degree dewpoint the other day, though I hope the dewpoint drops maybe into the high 60s by the time it's 102 here today.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah I saw some raised “boardwalks” through the snow and found out that was part of the system.
I was never an off road/or bmxbiker as a kid like a bunch of my friends who also liked being outdoors. My lack of experience could be a big problem. But I certainly could get into shape given the altitude.
Being a once a year skier I would not touch one whole part of CB with double diamonds. I like the long drawn out slopes you can get on the Paradise lift. If I skied consistently up there I would have already hurt myself. As it stands my knees and endurance are very good so I figure I would stay that way. It’s almost a given if I lived there I would already have been injured and would not stop skiing after recovering. I also would have learned how to fly fish well if I lived up there. And probably been a river kayaker instead of an ocean kayaker. Surprisingly I have learned how to read water fairly well just by kayaking the Devils and Llano rivers a number of times. I like the saltwater fishing much more than fresh. That would not be the case if I lived in Colorado most likely. (Or any big western State with trout)

Yeah I definitely paid the price for all the extreme skiing when I was younger. Now with the knee replacements I just cruise blues.the fly fishing is one of the reasons I finally settled in this area. Both the Taylor and Gunnison are gold metal systems and if I'm not feeling that ambitious I can catch decent rainbows and browns right in my backyard Have a Polaris RZR for exploring all the offroad mountain trails. This area and the Ouray/silverton area are my favorite places in Colorado.

[SnakeBoy]

The reptiles, bullsnakes, rat snakes, rattlesnakes... the big barn snakes have not caught up yet. I imagine they should increase by the end of the summer because there is a ton of food to be eaten.

It doesn't work that way. They're not rodents, takes more than one season.

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah I definitely paid the price for all the extreme skiing when I was younger. Now with the knee replacements I just cruise blues.the fly fishing is one of the reasons I finally settled in this area. Both the Taylor and Gunnison are gold metal systems and if I'm not feeling that ambitious I can catch decent rainbows and browns right in my backyard Have a Polaris RZR for exploring all the offroad mountain trails. This area and the Ouray/silverton area are my favorite places in Colorado.

Didn't you have your hips replaced too?

[pgardn]

It doesn't work that way. They're not rodents, takes more than one season.

Yes I know they don’t breed as often.
But I did not know I would not see any reptile increase by the end of the summer.
We will see Dr. Snake, field ecologist.
So there will be no increase. Got it.

Also my observations are around a barn area. They snakes might be populated, but are not concentrated around the barn because the vegetation is supplying plenty of food in the entire system. The barn is not a gathering spot right now.

[pgardn]

Yeah I definitely paid the price for all the extreme skiing when I was younger. Now with the knee replacements I just cruise blues.the fly fishing is one of the reasons I finally settled in this area. Both the Taylor and Gunnison are gold metal systems and if I'm not feeling that ambitious I can catch decent rainbows and browns right in my backyard Have a Polaris RZR for exploring all the offroad mountain trails. This area and the Ouray/silverton area are my favorite places in Colorado.

Any decent Brook trout that can be kept anywhere?
Those are extremely tasty Imo.

[CosmicCowboy]

Any decent Brook trout that can be kept anywhere?
Those are extremely tasty Imo.

There are a few places higher up where there are brookies. You tend to find bookies either in smaller, higher feeder streams or stocked high country lakes. They dont seem to compete in the bigger water.

[CosmicCowboy]

Didn't you have your hips replaced too?

No, just 9 knee replacements from the staph infection that we could never get rid of.

[pgardn]

There are a few places higher up where there are brookies. You tend to find bookies either in smaller, higher feeder streams or stocked high country lakes. They can't compete in the bigger water.

That is were I caught them in Lake City. Away from the city and up in the mountains. They were tiny. In Yellowstone we caught a bunch in a place called pocket lake. 14-15 inch fish! But Yellowstone is highly regulated. They want the main lake full of cutthroat. They make you take the Laketrout out.

[CosmicCowboy]

That is were I caught them in Lake City. Away from the city and up in the mountains. They were tiny. In Yellowstone we caught a bunch in a place called pocket lake. 14-15 inch fish! But Yellowstone is highly regulated. They want the main lake full of cutthroat. They make you take the Laketrout out.

There are a few cuts and cutbows around where I am. I caught an 18" cut once below Taylor Dam at the Hog Trough. Was surprised to find one there. The Hog Trough is famous for huge rainbows. The site record 30+ pound rainbow was caught there.

[pgardn]

There are a few cuts and cutbows around where I am. I caught an 18" cut once below Taylor Dam at the Hog Trough. Was surprised to find one there. The Hog Trough is famous for huge rainbows. The site record 30+ pound rainbow was caught there.

I completely forgot about some of the species I had not seen before. I caught these hybrids that were beautiful in the Grand Mesa system of lakes and rivers. They were incredibly beautiful. Had more orange and green than rainbows? What are those?

[CosmicCowboy]

I completely forgot about some of the species I had not seen before. I caught these hybrids that were beautiful in the Grand Mesa system of lakes and rivers. They were incredibly beautiful. Had more orange and green than rainbows? What are those?

Might have been the Hofer hybrids? Because of whirling disease the state hatcheries have been trying to cross the colorado rainbows with whirling resistant other rainbow strains.

[pgardn]

Might have been the Hofer hybrids? Because of whirling disease the state hatcheries have been trying to cross the colorado rainbows with whirling resistant other rainbow strains.

Im going to find out. I you have seen these... They are shockingly beautiful imo...
The tiger trout. Yep thats it. Have you seen those? Brook and Brown cross.

[SnakeBoy]

No, just 9 knee replacements from the staph infection that we could never get rid of.

Holy crap! That must have been miserable. Is it all clear now?

[CosmicCowboy]

Im going to find out. I you have seen these... They are shockingly beautiful imo...
The tiger trout. Yep thats it. Have you seen those? Brook and Brown cross.

Wow those are super rare. Great catch!

[CosmicCowboy]

Holy crap! That must have been miserable. Is it all clear now?

Yeah it truly sucked .Nope. I just have to live with taking an antibiotic forever. Have it cut back to every other day. Kept trying to reduce it. Went to once a week and it blew up on me.

[Tyronn Lue]

At least the humidity is going down. Still high as hell but it's 72 degrees right now with the temp at 97 vs a couple of days ago when the dewpoint was 77 with a temp of 101. Even 102 with a 72 dewpoint isn't going to look too bad compared with 101 with a 77 degree dewpoint the other day, though I hope the dewpoint drops maybe into the high 60s by the time it's 102 here today.
I'm going to Boston for a week. Relief here I come!

[pgardn]

No, just 9 knee replacements from the staph infection that we could never get rid of.

Tom Brady... but no knee replacement yet.

[pgardn]

Wow those are super rare. Great catch!

Well I had no idea concerning the rarity. Luck for the casual fisherman.
Oh and I caught it on a grasshopper. Bait was allowed. It was very tangled in there so I could not possibly have caught the fish with a fly as I really suck at it.
We were chasing grasshoppers around and testing our hand quickness like when I was a kid.

Oh after I caught it an old man who was camping there brought out his big glass jar and a hand net. I had no idea he was watching us.

[CosmicCowboy]

Tom Brady... but no knee replacement yet.

Oh I totally abused my knees for years but had a blast doing it. Long distance running, played rugby, slalom water skied ( could run a course at 5 off at 30mph) snow skiing hammering steep mogul runs for years etc. Stupidest thing I did was try snow boarding in its infancy at Big Sky. They did it "European style" and you did it with ski boots instead of soft boot. There went one ACL LOL. Paid the price for all the fun but would do it all again. You learn to live with pain. No biggie.

[pgardn]

Oh I totally abused my knees for years but had a blast doing it. Long distance running, played rugby, slam water skied ( could run a course at 5 off at 30mph) snow skiing hammering steep mogul runs for years etc. Paid the price but would do it all again. You learn to live with pain. No biggie.

Rugby... holy shit... thats as bad a the cheese rolling contest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK3y4-8dLB8

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah it truly sucked .Nope. I just have to live with taking an antibiotic forever. Have it cut back to every other day. Kept trying to reduce it. Went to once a week and it blew up on me.

You might consider a consultation with https://www.amandamarshallmd.com/

[CosmicCowboy]

Speaking of Big Sky, you should put that on your bucket list. Take a day off from skiing and go snowmobile in Yellowstone. Freaking amazing.

[CosmicCowboy]

Rugby... holy shit... thats as bad a the cheese rolling contest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK3y4-8dLB8

LOL no kidding! Traditional after party's were epic, though. Also raced motocross for awhile. Had an RM370. Scary bike.Had to give that up after I blew up my right rotator cuff coming off a long jump and hitting a big rut. Punched my locked right arm straight through it. Still have a piece of the rotator cuff the size of a golf ball floating around in there.

[baseline bum]

Speaking of Big Sky, you should put that on your bucket list. Take a day off from skiing and go snowmobile in Yellowstone. Freaking amazing.

You ever go to the Beartooths when you're around Yellowstone? Unbelievable hiking and the crowds are all in Yellowstone so you feel like you have the place to yourself a lot of the time out there. Have heard the snowmobiling around Cooke City is supposed to be outstanding too.

[Blake]

Yeah it truly sucked .Nope. I just have to live with taking an antibiotic forever. Have it cut back to every other day. Kept trying to reduce it. Went to once a week and it blew up on me.

Goddam. I had a nephew get a staph after tubing in the Guadalupe, was in the hospital for a month and his leg looked like death. I thought he was 100% over it but now I'm gonna ask him.

[SnakeBoy]

Goddam. I had a nephew get a staph after tubing in the Guadalupe, was in the hospital for a month and his leg looked like death. I thought he was 100% over it but now I'm gonna ask him.

CC has bacteria growing on the surface of his prosthesis. With no blood supply, antibiotics can't get to the bacteria. That's why he has to keep taking antibiotics and the infection spreads when he stops. Normally they pull out all the hardware and put in an antibiotic spacer which stays in until the infection is completely cleared (weeks to months). Then replace the hardware.

[CosmicCowboy]

CC has bacteria growing on the surface of his prosthesis. With no blood supply, antibiotics can't get to the bacteria. That's why he has to keep taking antibiotics and the infection spreads when he stops. Normally they pull out all the hardware and put in an antibiotic spacer which stays in until the infection is completely cleared (weeks to months). Then replace the hardware.

Did that twice. Still couldn't get rid of it.

[Winehole23]

dang.

sorry, dude.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did that twice. Still couldn't get rid of it.

Can't they administer direct to the site?

[SnakeBoy]

Did that twice. Still couldn't get rid of it.

Damn sorry man, that's a nightmare scenario for joint replacement. I'd still suggest a consultation with the link I gave you but honestly you might be at the point where no surgeon will want to go in again.

[baseline bum]

Guessing we will set the all time heat index record for San Antonio again today with a 78 degree dewpoint and a heat index of 110 already at 1pm.

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn sorry man, that's a nightmare scenario for joint replacement. I'd still suggest a consultation with the link I gave you but honestly you might be at the point where no surgeon will want to go in again.

Yeah thanks but have A+ surgeons and infectious disease docs. Just shit I have to deal with. No biggie. Still hiking, fishing, loving life. Pain is just normal. Not stopping me from doing cool stuff.

[SnakeBoy]

Can't they administer direct to the site?

They probably haven't thought of that

[Chucho]

Also since you're there, have you taken a road trip to Yosemite this year? The Mist Trail must be nuts right now with how much snowpack the Sierras got last winter. First time I hiked it in spring 2006 after another heavy snow year I must have had wood half the hike from passing so many hot women in wet white T-shirts from how much the Merced River was roaring over the falls. :lol

We haven't. We wanted to go for Memorial Day, but the HWY 120 corridor was closed off and the only other way around would add another 2-3 hours for a trip that's normally 2.5 hours, tops.

BUT, that overall, this June has been AMAZING. Our average high thus far is 81! We had a high of 77 yesterday and averaged low to mid 80s most of the month. It's definitely been the coolest start to a summer here for the 14 summers I've been here.

Driving to Reno this weekend, so excited to see how much snow is still up in the Mountains. When we went in April of last year, there was still snow on the ground levels at about 2,000 ft elevation and we were able to go snowing (sledding, tubing- a snow day) in mid-May last year without going maybe 45 minutes from home, so I'm really excited to see what we'll be able to do this year. Got my snow bib and boots ready as I already know I'm gonna choke a wad in losses in Nevada.

Sadly, won't be driving that way when we go to Vegas in mid-July for the Summer League, we have to go thru SoCal, but super excited to feel the High desert kicking up at night.

While I can't stand the politics and the retarded California trash (and yes, these people are FUCKING DUMB...talking to an average Californian is like attending a PTO/PTA meeting at Alamo Heights and speaking with the absentee parents who attend due to custody or reputation purposes and they don't jack about what's going on) the weather and diverse landscape still make it a more appealing place to live than back home.

[Chucho]

Yuck. I remember summers when I was at Chico State...that shit was nasty.

We're actually having a really amazing start to the summer despite that aforementioned heat wave.

We're averaging low to mid 80s as our high. Yesterday our high was 77 and we got down to 51 at night. When the breeze kicks in, it's gorgeous.

[elbamba1]

I am 15 miles from CB. House is an acre with 500 feet of Spring Creek (which in Texas we would call a year round river, its bigger than the Medina River). If you were in CB you should know where Almont (three rivers) is. Haven't noticed a huge upswing in the rodent/snake population. Saw bighorn sheep, moose, elk and deer this week. Always on the alert for bears as they are a normal thing you deal with, especially in the spring and fall. Mountain lions move into our valley in the winter especially following the deer out of the snowed in higher elevations. We had a huge snowfall this winter and even had about 4' at the house where I am at. More like 10 feet at CB. Lakes are all full again after several years of semi drought.

We bought a cabin in Alma, about 15 minutes from Brackenridge last year. Going there for the first time in August to escape the Texas heat. Looking forward to seeing the wildlife and mild days.

[baseline bum]

BUT, that overall, this June has been AMAZING. Our average high thus far is 81! We had a high of 77 yesterday and averaged low to mid 80s most of the month. It's definitely been the coolest start to a summer here for the 14 summers I've been here.


Lucky bastards :lol

We're having an extended high pressure ridge that flared up a week ago, took us to 105 yesterday, probably takes us there again today, 104 tomorrow before the heat dome moves a little west for Thursday and Friday that might drop us to 100. Then the fucker is supposed to come right back and intensify again Friday and stick around until at least early July with straight 102-103 forecast the whole time. Basically looking a lot like what June looked like here last year, though we won't have a record setting 18 days over 100 this June like we did last. Probably only have 15 this June. But with higher humidity. Fucking dewpoint is 76 right now and heat index is already 111 as of 1:15. Typical year in the last 20 years though is 18 days of 100+ the entire year, so this will almost surely be another way above average summer.

[Chucho]

You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.

No way a 5 year old is making it up all the way.

[baseline bum]

You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.

Crap, missed the part about August. Yosemite waterfalls usually suck in August. They'll be better this August than most Augusts but I still wouldn't have high hopes for them then.

[Chucho]

Lucky bastards :lol

We're having an extended high pressure ridge that flared up a week ago, took us to 105 yesterday, probably takes us there again today, 104 tomorrow before the heat dome moves a little west for Thursday and Friday that might drop us to 100. Then the fucker is supposed to come right back and intensify again Friday and stick around until at least early July with straight 102-103 forecast the whole time. Basically looking a lot like what June looked like here last year, though we won't have a record setting 18 days over 100 this June like we did last. Probably only have 15 this June. But with higher humidity. Fucking dewpoint is 76 right now and heat index is already 111 as of 1:15. Typical year in the last 20 years though is 18 days of 100+ the entire year, so this will almost surely be another way above average summer.

I can't do it. When you live there for so long, it becomes part of life and you adjust/adapt to it. I remember my glasses always fogging up every time stepping out of my vehicle, even with anti-fog coatings. You really can't explain it to someone who has never lived in it or experienced it. But, when the humidity strikes up, it will always trigger memories of San Antonio.

My electric bill here is roughly $1 grand a month during summer. Even with drastically lower energy prices, I'm curious to what my electric spend would be with CPS. The last summer I lived in San Antonio, we had a 2-story, 1,500 foot town home on that nice golf course by Wurzbach Parkway between Perrin Bietel, Nacadoches and Wetmore and I never went over $350 in 2009 money and I blasted til we were down to 69 at night time (impossible to achieve during the day, I swear).

[baseline bum]

Looks like we set a new record for highest heat index ever recorded in San Antonio at 116

[baseline bum]

Oops we hit 117 heat index today

[Robz4000]

Definitely the hottest day so far. Shit sucks.

[baseline bum]

Definitely the hottest day so far. Shit sucks.

Third time in the last four days we have set a record for highest heat index ever recorded in San Antonio.

[baseline bum]

Ugh this ridge is supposed to back off west a little on Thursday and Friday allowing us to drop to around 100, but then it's supposed to build right back to what it is now and stick around until at least early July

:pctoss

[pgardn]

Ugh this ridge is supposed to back off west a little on Thursday and Friday allowing us to drop to around 100, but then it's supposed to build right back to what it is now and stick around until at least early July

:pctoss

This is severely biting into my ability to exercise properly... (He says as other people suffer inside their houses trying to stay still as possible with fans going)
This really a truly sucks. On the other hand, who is gonna wanna move here besides rattlesnakes... Maybe people will actually be able to buy houses as a migration out occurs.

[Winehole23]

This is severely biting into my ability to exercise properly.Have fun, but be reasonable and listen to your body. If I ever got dizzy or faintheaded I hope I would get off of my bicycle and attempt to walk on the sidewalk, helmet on. I do about 60 miles/wk on the bike.

Sunday and today were pretty hot.

My general rule of thumb is to not to exceed 35 minutes of usage, we'll see how it goes this summer. I've got weekend soccer games on top. First one was ok, god bless the 10 am start time.

[pgardn]

Have fun, but be reasonable and listen to your body. If I ever got dizzy or faintheaded I hope I would get off of my bicycle and attempt to walk on the sidewalk, helmet on. I do about 60 miles/wk on the bike.

Sunday and today were pretty hot.

My general rule of thumb is to not to exceed 35 minutes of usage, we'll see how it goes this summer. I've got weekend soccer games on top. First one was ok, god bless the 10 am start time.

How "cool" you get to play soccer!
I have friends in Austin playing in leagues. One participated in the indoor leagues as well but he tore his ACL. He said it was very quick and more ball skills.
I wont participate again as I just dont have the skills. And rec leagues in San Antonio just dont come close to Austin.

The bike in the evening just does not work on pavement of large surface area around you. It just holds too much heat. I just get hot air flowing past me and basically get air fried so I retreat to the biking/running/walking system the Greenway Trails. Vegetation around you is definitely better than pavement that holds eat. Early morning is tough for me schedule wise. Lunch and after work. And part of the problem is that I think I work too well in heat and that I cant take enough water in. It takes me so long to rehydrate as given by urination color. And I just dont get enough warning signs. If I get dizzy I will definitely stop. The pool at lunch has saved me but sometime it does not agree with what is happening at work.

Nonetheless it is miserable but I think I am probably addicted to exercise.

[leemajors]

How "cool" you get to play soccer!
I have friends in Austin playing in leagues. One participated in the indoor leagues as well but he tore his ACL. He said it was very quick and more ball skills.
I wont participate again as I just dont have the skills. And rec leagues in San Antonio just dont come close to Austin.

The bike in the evening just does not work on pavement of large surface area around you. It just holds too much heat. I just get hot air flowing past me and basically get air fried so I retreat to the biking/running/walking system the Greenway Trails. Vegetation around you is definitely better than pavement that holds eat. Early morning is tough for me schedule wise. Lunch and after work. And part of the problem is that I think I work too well in heat and that I cant take enough water in. It takes me so long to rehydrate as given by urination color. And I just dont get enough warning signs. If I get dizzy I will definitely stop. The pool at lunch has saved me but sometime it does not agree with what is happening at work.

Nonetheless it is miserable but I think I am probably addicted to exercise.

Do you prehydrate? Drinking a lot of water before can help quite a bit. Himalayan salt water can help too to rehydrate

[baseline bum]

Fucking hell, NOAA is forecasting 105 from Sunday through Tuesday :pctoss

JFC is this actually going to be a worse summer than last?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fucking hell, NOAA is forecasting 105 from Sunday through Tuesday :pctoss

JFC is this actually going to be a worse summer than last?

Everytime EN comes it is going to be like this it looks like. Just be glad you're not in Houston now that the gulfstream is too south to deflect the storms that form off from Africa away from the Gulf.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[baseline bum]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzKBY8AWIAAV1vF?format=jpg&name=small

82 for sleeping is lunacy. Jeez when I'm camping in the mountains I don't even zip up my sleeping bag unless it drops into the mid 20s.

[baseline bum]

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Yeah NOAA's forecast is grim as fuck. Sunday 104, Monday 105, Tuesday 105.

[baseline bum]

Ugh last year was record breaking, hottest summer ever recorded in San Antonio, and we had three days of excessive heat warnings. This year we have already had seven and it's only the first day summer FML.

[baseline bum]

San Antonio next week


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4igSY6kDPc

[baseline bum]

And this week

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like Austin might get another evening shower blowing through tonight. Crazy how the lawn is still green and I haven't done a regular watering yet.

[Blake]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzKBY8AWIAAV1vF?format=jpg&name=small

I know zero people that turn the AC up when they go to sleep. I can't sleep in sweaty sheets

[baseline bum]

Looks like Austin might get another evening shower blowing through tonight. Crazy how the lawn is still green and I haven't done a regular watering yet.

My lawn is getting pretty brown now in unshaded areas. Also in my neighborhood...

https://i.ibb.co/3Thm946/fkme.png

https://media.tenor.com/JTNGQBmVPsgAAAAC/homer-suicide.gif

[Blake]

Looks like Austin might get another evening shower blowing through tonight. Crazy how the lawn is still green and I haven't done a regular watering yet.

Was thinking the same thing this morning. Just a matter of a few weeks before everything will be brown again I'm guessing with this torrid heat

[ChumpDumper]

Was thinking the same thing this morning. Just a matter of a few weeks before everything will be brown again I'm guessing with this torrid heat

lol I was thinking of patching some thin spots earlier this month because it had been so mild and wet. Now I gotta time the last real mowing of the summer so I don't die.

[baseline bum]

lol I was thinking of patching some thin spots earlier this month because it had been so mild and wet. Now I gotta time the last real mowing of the summer so I don't die.

I'm timing it for October

[pgardn]

Do you prehydrate? Drinking a lot of water before can help quite a bit. Himalayan salt water can help too to rehydrate

Yep.
In fact I almost always pee in the porta potties before I go biking. Same with swimming in the locker room. I think I am one of the few people who stop to hydrate while swimming laps.
But maybe I need to increase the electrolyte intake before going out. This Himalayan stuff, does it taste salty?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzVFLboaEAInt3w?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/1671275445197713409/img/sISZip7pH_piBqNj.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/1671275445197713409/img/sISZip7pH_piBqNj.jpg

Need El Nino to kick in

[CosmicCowboy]

Yep.
In fact I almost always pee in the porta potties before I go biking. Same with swimming in the locker room. I think I am one of the few people who stop to hydrate while swimming laps.
But maybe I need to increase the electrolyte intake before going out. This Himalayan stuff, does it taste salty?

We just sprinkle a little himalayan salt in the water. tastes a little salty but actually makes it taste better.

[leemajors]

Yep.
In fact I almost always pee in the porta potties before I go biking. Same with swimming in the locker room. I think I am one of the few people who stop to hydrate while swimming laps.
But maybe I need to increase the electrolyte intake before going out. This Himalayan stuff, does it taste salty?

I think it has less salt content than table salt and more trace minerals.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Need El Nino to kick in

It has thus the stream shifting.

[pgardn]

We just sprinkle a little himalayan salt in the water. tastes a little salty but actually makes it taste better.


I think it has less salt content than table salt and more trace minerals.

Its been a lot better biking the past few days.
The humidity makes a huge difference as long as I plan routes that lead to water I can splash down my wicking head cloth and shirt. I get dry after about 4 miles in low humidity so I completely drench myself again. I guess because I get so much more evaporative cooling from the fountain water instead of my own sweat, Im not sweating as much and the 1/3 gatoraide, 2/3 water is working. I just need two frozen bottles at the start. And get another at the truck if I still feel good after I finish them.
Anyways it not quite a nice this evening as it was yesterday. But at least Im getting my exercise hit "addiction" outside.

Still not going to kayak fish at the coast. Its been brutal per friends. I dont like to do the early thing and come in at noon. I want to stay out there if I think I have got it figured out. Redfish still bite in the heat in the correct places. I would have a tendency to stay too long and been worn out for the next day of fishing.

[leemajors]

Its been a lot better biking the past few days.
The humidity makes a huge difference as long as I plan routes that lead to water I can splash down my wicking head cloth and shirt. I get dry after about 4 miles in low humidity so I completely drench myself again. I guess because I get so much more evaporative cooling from the fountain water instead of my own sweat, Im not sweating as much and the 1/3 gatoraide, 2/3 water is working. I just need two frozen bottles at the start. And get another at the truck if I still feel good after I finish them.
Anyways it not quite a nice this evening as it was yesterday. But at least Im getting my exercise hit "addiction" outside.

Still not going to kayak fish at the coast. Its been brutal per friends. I dont like to do the early thing and come in at noon. I want to stay out there if I think I have got it figured out. Redfish still bite in the heat in the correct places. I would have a tendency to stay too long and been worn out for the next day of fishing.

What time of day are you riding? I usually get out just before noon on my lunch break before it gets too hot.

[pgardn]

What time of day are you riding? I usually get out just before noon on my lunch break before it gets too hot.

Sometimes at 6 pm sometimes 7 pm till around sunset. Weekends I pick it depending.
The humidity is almost always lower later but of course the temps are up. Today the humidity was up again but the wind also quite nice.
I took the swimming route at lunch and wanted to ride this evening but did not (which would have been interesting because the humidity was up but so was the wind.)
Im very lucky to be able to swim at lunch. I usually work well in the afternoon because of it.

With biking sometimes the winter causes layering clothing problems. You feel cold at first but then you warm up and its not clear what clothing to wear and its a pain to take stuff off. The winter brings in the problem of having your digits and face want to freeze off. Fast through cold wet air is really difficult.

[leemajors]

Sometimes at 6 pm sometimes 7 pm till around sunset. Weekends I pick it depending.
The humidity is almost always lower later but of course the temps are up. Today the humidity was up again but the wind also quite nice.
I took the swimming route at lunch and wanted to ride this evening but did not (which would have been interesting because the humidity was up but so was the wind.)
Im very lucky to be able to swim at lunch. I usually work well in the afternoon because of it.

With biking sometimes the winter causes layering clothing problems. You feel cold at first but then you warm up and its not clear what clothing to wear and its a pain to take stuff off. The winter brings in the problem of having your digits and face want to freeze off. Fast through cold wet air is really difficult.

I just have a sweat wicking base layer and a long sleeved wicking shirt on top of it for cold weather, plus some felt lined tights and shorts. Good down to 30 degrees in that, and some Showers Pass cycling gloves I use for walking my dog in the cold too. Also have some Shimano shoe covers that work really well. Only time my hands really get chilly is if there is no sun and a strong north wind.

[pgardn]

I just have a sweat wicking base layer and a long sleeved wicking shirt on top of it for cold weather, plus some felt lined tights and shorts. Good down to 30 degrees in that, and some Showers Pass cycling gloves I use for walking my dog in the cold too. Also have some Shimano shoe covers that work really well. Only time my hands really get chilly is if there is no sun and a strong north wind.

I completely forgot about the wet foot issue! that sucks.
I dont have the fancier bikes and dont use the pop in shoes.

I need to upgrade. I was told a good bike fit makes it much easier on your body. I usually dont do long rides as in time. Usually just over an hour most often but I work really hard at it. I purposely get out of the saddle for long hills and switch backs so I can get to breathing hard like running.

I need to take the time off to buy one of the better bikes. When I rode one from Pittsburg to DC, the Allegany bike trail, we did about 55-60 miles a day and I did it easily (its very flat) and without hardly any butt, leg, or hand pain. And the bike I rented (which i failed to look at closely enough) was incredibly easy to ride. I never could have got the same results with "my" bikes (old hybrids does off road well). The rented bike was fancy with disc brakes and phalanged handle bars (my hands did not ever cramp). Oh it also had one of the tiny unpadded seats and it did not hurt my butt? My god that thing was so efficient. My bikes absolutely suck in efficiency compared to that thing so I need advice on a good bike that gives me the same comfort as on that long trail and is so easy to pedal. I could go very fast without even trying for very long periods. And the few hills were absolutely zero problem, even at the end of a ride. I did not miss a day of biking on that journey while my friends took days off. Weather was absolutely great.

Im not into bikes enough to warrant a big expense so I wonder if about 1000 would get it done for me. For some reason I dont really care much about the mechanisms and doing my own maintenance. I can put chains back on (a must do as you wont get far if it occurs while out) and I can fix flats but I really dont want to if I dont have to. Also I rode without the pop in shoes on the trail so I wonder if that really is necessary. Am I not using all the muscles? like if I had to actually pull up instead of always pushing down...? I want to get tired but I dont want to wear on my body like I have experienced with running.

[ChumpDumper]

I completely forgot about the wet foot issue! that sucks.
I dont have the fancier bikes and dont use the pop in shoes.

I need to upgrade. I was told a good bike fit makes it much easier on your body. I usually dont do long rides as in time. Usually just over an hour most often but I work really hard at it. I purposely get out of the saddle for long hills and switch backs so I can get to breathing hard like running.

I need to take the time off to buy one of the better bikes. When I rode one from Pittsburg to DC, the Allegany bike trail, we did about 55-60 miles a day and I did it easily (its very flat) and without hardly any butt, leg, or hand pain. And the bike I rented (which i failed to look at closely enough) was incredibly easy to ride. I never could have got the same results with "my" bikes (old hybrids does off road well). The rented bike was fancy with disc brakes and phalanged handle bars (my hands did not ever cramp). Oh it also had one of the tiny unpadded seats and it did not hurt my butt? My god that thing was so efficient. My bikes absolutely suck in efficiency compared to that thing so I need advice on a good bike that gives me the same comfort as on that long trail and is so easy to pedal. I could go very fast without even trying for very long periods. And the few hills were absolutely zero problem, even at the end of a ride. I did not miss a day of biking on that journey while my friends took days off. Weather was absolutely great.

Im not into bikes enough to warrant a big expense so I wonder if about 1000 would get it done for me. For some reason I dont really care much about the mechanisms and doing my own maintenance. I can put chains back on (a must do as you wont get far if it occurs while out) and I can fix flats but I really dont want to if I dont have to. Also I rode without the pop in shoes on the trail so I wonder if that really is necessary. Am I not using all the muscles? like if I had to actually pull up instead of always pushing down...? I want to get tired but I dont want to wear on my body like I have experienced with running.$1000 will get you an awesome bike. Any dealer worth its salt will get you on the right sized bike for that money. Your weight was distributed properly on the rental -- that's why the narrow seat didn't hurt your ass.

[SnakeBoy]

I completely forgot about the wet foot issue! that sucks.
I dont have the fancier bikes and dont use the pop in shoes.

I need to upgrade. I was told a good bike fit makes it much easier on your body. I usually dont do long rides as in time. Usually just over an hour most often but I work really hard at it. I purposely get out of the saddle for long hills and switch backs so I can get to breathing hard like running.

I need to take the time off to buy one of the better bikes. When I rode one from Pittsburg to DC, the Allegany bike trail, we did about 55-60 miles a day and I did it easily (its very flat) and without hardly any butt, leg, or hand pain. And the bike I rented (which i failed to look at closely enough) was incredibly easy to ride. I never could have got the same results with "my" bikes (old hybrids does off road well). The rented bike was fancy with disc brakes and phalanged handle bars (my hands did not ever cramp). Oh it also had one of the tiny unpadded seats and it did not hurt my butt? My god that thing was so efficient. My bikes absolutely suck in efficiency compared to that thing so I need advice on a good bike that gives me the same comfort as on that long trail and is so easy to pedal. I could go very fast without even trying for very long periods. And the few hills were absolutely zero problem, even at the end of a ride. I did not miss a day of biking on that journey while my friends took days off. Weather was absolutely great.

Im not into bikes enough to warrant a big expense so I wonder if about 1000 would get it done for me. For some reason I dont really care much about the mechanisms and doing my own maintenance. I can put chains back on (a must do as you wont get far if it occurs while out) and I can fix flats but I really dont want to if I dont have to. Also I rode without the pop in shoes on the trail so I wonder if that really is necessary. Am I not using all the muscles? like if I had to actually pull up instead of always pushing down...? I want to get tired but I dont want to wear on my body like I have experienced with running.

How tall are you?

[leemajors]

I completely forgot about the wet foot issue! that sucks.
I dont have the fancier bikes and dont use the pop in shoes.

I need to upgrade. I was told a good bike fit makes it much easier on your body. I usually dont do long rides as in time. Usually just over an hour most often but I work really hard at it. I purposely get out of the saddle for long hills and switch backs so I can get to breathing hard like running.

I need to take the time off to buy one of the better bikes. When I rode one from Pittsburg to DC, the Allegany bike trail, we did about 55-60 miles a day and I did it easily (its very flat) and without hardly any butt, leg, or hand pain. And the bike I rented (which i failed to look at closely enough) was incredibly easy to ride. I never could have got the same results with "my" bikes (old hybrids does off road well). The rented bike was fancy with disc brakes and phalanged handle bars (my hands did not ever cramp). Oh it also had one of the tiny unpadded seats and it did not hurt my butt? My god that thing was so efficient. My bikes absolutely suck in efficiency compared to that thing so I need advice on a good bike that gives me the same comfort as on that long trail and is so easy to pedal. I could go very fast without even trying for very long periods. And the few hills were absolutely zero problem, even at the end of a ride. I did not miss a day of biking on that journey while my friends took days off. Weather was absolutely great.

Im not into bikes enough to warrant a big expense so I wonder if about 1000 would get it done for me. For some reason I dont really care much about the mechanisms and doing my own maintenance. I can put chains back on (a must do as you wont get far if it occurs while out) and I can fix flats but I really dont want to if I dont have to. Also I rode without the pop in shoes on the trail so I wonder if that really is necessary. Am I not using all the muscles? like if I had to actually pull up instead of always pushing down...? I want to get tired but I dont want to wear on my body like I have experienced with running.

Just go to a local bike shop, tell them what you want and your budget, they should be able to help. I have a gravel bike with road tires and disc brakes that I got for $1100 or so 6 years ago. Some of them have a lot of bikes that have been traded in that may be a good fit, too. Either way you can have a bike fitted to you for $100 or so, but they may do it for free with a new purchase. I used to have tune ups done at the store I got my bike at, but the wait times were really long so I just go to REI. If you are a member you get a 10% discount on maintenance.

[pgardn]

$1000 will get you an awesome bike. Any dealer worth its salt will get you on the right sized bike for that money. Your weight was distributed properly on the rental -- that's why the narrow seat didn't hurt your ass.

Cool.

Ok any particular brand of bike?
Anyone?

[pgardn]

How tall are you?

82% of white males identify as over 6 feet tall.

[Winehole23]

The big picture: The heat dome is toppling records. Multiple locations in Texas set monthly and all-time temperature highs (https://www.axios.com/2023/06/28/texas-heat-power-use-record-southern-us-temperatures) last week.


And with air conditioners humming relentlessly, the state hit a new record for electricity usage on June 27.
Meanwhile, Texas' renewable energy production also climbed to new highs amid outages (https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/heat-wave-will-test-texas-grid-but-power-outages-are-unlikely/) from a large number of fossil-fuel plants.

Why it matters: As states across the U.S. take steps to decarbonize, the role and reliability of renewable power are being closely watched in Texas. The Lone Star State has the second largest renewable capacity in the country (after California) — and is prone to extreme temperatures that can strain the grid.


So far this year, Texas’ renewables have passed the test.

What they’re saying: "The market just kind of shrugged because there was so much wind and solar in the market ... It's another demonstration of the benefit for consumers that we see from wind and solar," says Doug Lewin, author of the Texas Energy and Power Newsletter (https://douglewin.substack.com/).


“Having solar provide during the hottest parts of the day is allowing our thermal fleet to not run itself into the ground as fast,” Josh Rhodes, a research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin, told Texas Monthly (https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/solar-power-texas-heat-wave/).

By the numbers: The state's solar capacity has nearly tripled in the past three years, and there are thousands more megawatts now under development, as Texas Monthly notes.


The Texas grid was producing a record 31 gigawatts (https://twitter.com/maxk/status/1674189803082899456?s=20) of renewable power last Wednesday.
And as a share of total power, renewables reached 35%-40% during peak usage last week, Lewin says. (For comparison, renewables provided about 25% of the state's power (https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=TX) during 2022.)

Power prices climbed from the typical area of around $30 per megawatt hour — but they mostly stayed below $50 throughout the week, says Lewin.


"A few years ago, on a day like last Tuesday there would have been a very high likelihood that you would have seen prices in the $1,000s per megawatt hour area," he says. (In Texas' deregulated power market, occasional price spikes during high demand are a feature, not a bug (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/23/us/texas-outages-electric-bills-griddy/index.html).)



"Renewables likely saved consumers a billion dollars or more last week alone," Lewin adds.

Two key stats: Renewables reduced wholesale electricity costs in Texas by $11 billion in 2022, according to a recent paper (https://www.ideasmiths.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Impact-of-Renewables-in-ERCOT_FINAL.pdf) that Rhodes authored.


But it could have been more: Transmission congestion [I]cost Texans nearly $3 billion last year (https://www.potomaceconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2022-State-of-the-Market-Report_Final_060623.pdf).
In other words, much of the excess solar power produced in high-generation areas like the south and west couldn't be moved to places like central Texas that would gobble it up if they could get their hands on it, says Michael Webber, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/05/texas-heatdome-record-temperature-electricity

[DarrinS]

Spring break was in the 40's

But, weather patterns

[lefty]

Heat and fat people :puke

[Blake]

Spring break was in the 40's

But, weather patterns

Lol weather patterns. Muhhhhh zip code makes his weekly appearance

[Ef-man]

Lol weather patterns. Muhhhhh zip code makes his weekly appearance

KarrenS with a retard take. :lol

[DarrinS]

Lol weather patterns. Muhhhhh zip code makes his weekly appearance


KarrenS with a retard take. :lol

Soy boys unite.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Soy boys unite.

In thinking you are an idiot obviously. You've been made to look stupid for decades on this topic.

[DarrinS]

Hot weather: climate change

Cold weather: climate change

Weather: hold my beer

[Ef-man]

Also Boomer KarrenS in his early years: Nothing we can do about it - DDT, smog, and acid rain are all natural, not man-made (as I did my own research).

P.S. Why are libs saying cigarettes cause cancer?

[ChumpDumper]

Hot weather: climate change

Cold weather: climate change

Weather: hold my beer

Darrin: Hold my $50 LED bulbs!

[Blake]

Weather: hold my beer

Darrin: ok but you won't get it back

[ChumpDumper]

It's just funny that Karrin decided to go on a climate change denial rant after the hottest day ever recorded on this planet.

[pgardn]

He, like other Trumpsters, cannot deal with simple ideas like an average and variation.
I think its more likely they dont want to.

So try again.
The average temp of the earth's atmosphere and oceans is going up much faster (short amount of time) than in the past. Some of the past is a bit more sketchy because we were not taking global temps, but there are other ways to give us some broad ideas about the temp in the past. CO2 is the most abundant gas that plays a role in creating the greenhouse effect where sunlight is allowed in, but when the sunlight transforms into heat energy, CO2 wont let the heat energy back out into the outer reaches of the atmosphere, it traps a lot of heat energy. The rise in global temp correlates extraordinarily well with the earths rise in CO2 which has increased greatly since the industrial revolution.

Climate scientists and oil companies and others have gotten very good at creating models of climate, thus weather forecasts have gotten much better, especially broad forecasts over large amount of area.
AT this TIME the ideas are the earths AVG. temp (air and water) is rising rapidly per measurement. Also predicted by many different models is that the VARIATION in temp would increase. More very hot and very cold temps yet the earths AVERAGE would increase because, quite obviously, there would be a larger number of very hot extremes.

Does this make any sense Darrin? Ocean current patterns change, air patterns change, and then the infrastructure we have in place, FARMS and CITIES would have to deal with changes that they were not made for. This IS COSTING a buttload of money. We are going to have to become very adaptable to completely changing farming, cities, and so much else quickly because weather patterns are not only EXTREME, they VARY from the pattern have " we"laid out our farms and cities. "we" as humans on Earth.

So you think none of this makes sense DR. D?

"Wait till January, it will be very cold in some places" is not an argument. And because it gets very hot is some places its not absolutely on global warming (it could be tectonic etc...)
But overall... you say its BS?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hot weather: climate change

Cold weather: climate change

Weather: hold my beer

the distinction between climate and weather should not be hard yet here you are.

[Blake]

AP) — Earth’s average temperature remained at a record high Wednesday, after two days in which the planet reached unofficial records. It’s the latest marker in a series of climate-change-driven extremes.

The average global temperature was 17.18 Celsius (62.9 degrees Fahrenheit), according to the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer, a tool that uses satellite data and computer simulations to measure the world’s condition. That matched a record set Tuesday of 17.18 Celsius (62.9 Fahrenheit), and came after a previous record of 17.01 Celsius (62.6 degrees Fahrenheit) was set Monday.

https://www.wishtv.com/weather/weather-stories/for-the-third-day-in-a-row-the-earths-average-temperature-remained-at-a-record-high/

[Winehole23]

On the scale of 1,000s of years, this visual illustrates that Earth’s temperature is now shooting straight up. Here are a few takeaways from the visual.



https://www.wfla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/71/2023/07/LAST-20K-YEARS-WARMING-1.png?w=900Image: WFLA Jeff Berardelli adapted from Don’t Mention the Emergency

The rate of warming today is unprecedented in the 20,000 years shown. In fact, coming out of the last ice age, it took 10,000 years for the Earth’s average temperature to warm 3 degrees C.

Astonishingly, humans — due to the burning of fossil fuels and greenhouse gas emissions — will likely cause the same amount of warming in 200 years. That means our current warming rate is 50 times that of the natural warming rate that proceeded the most recent ice age.

Between 10,000 years ago and today’s rapid manmade warming, Earth’s average temperature was relatively constant, allowing human civilizations to thrive. There were disruptive regional cooling episodes like the disparate Little Ice Age events (https://eos.org/articles/the-little-ice-age-wasnt-global-but-current-climate-change-is), but the impact on overall global temperature was relatively minor.




https://www.wfla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/71/2023/07/PAGES2K-ED-HAWKINS-CLIMATE-STRIPES.jpg?w=900Image: Professor Ed Hawkins with PAGES2K data. Warming Stripes illustrates the Last 2000 years of global average temperature and the rapid warming in the last 100 years.

Since at the peak of the last ice age, Earth’s average temperature was about 10 degrees cooler than today, we know that it has not been this warm since before the last ice age. We call that time the “last interglacial” (in-between glacial periods) which peaked around 125,000 years ago.



https://www.wfla.com/weather/climate-classroom/earths-hottest-weather-in-120000-years-its-just-getting-started/

[Blake]

Earth: this ice age...

Humans: hold our beers

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0Yr2rCWYAIeL5z?format=jpg&name=large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0YsK3gWcAA9rsQ?format=jpg&name=large



First of all, the Texas PUC should pass a rule to require monthly reporting of utility shutoffs. You can’t manage what you can’t measure, and Texas isn't even bothering to track how many Texans are shut off for nonpayments.


Second, state and local leaders should be aggressively pursuing federal dollars to help reduce costs and increase reliability at no cost to ratepayers or the state of Texas. The major federal infrastructure bills contain tens of billions in potential assistance funds (https://www.rewiringamerica.org/policy/IRA-disadvantaged). The Home Energy Rebate programs alone (https://www.energy.gov/scep/home-energy-rebate-programs), which the State Energy Conservation Office will soon be able to apply for, could provide $690 million (https://www.energy.gov/articles/biden-harris-administration-announces-state-and-tribe-allocations-home-energy-rebate) to help struggling Texans lower their bills by weatherizing their homes. (The state could prioritize those at high risk of shut off for these incentives to add insulation and upgrade HVAC systems (https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/health-science/2023/07/03/455935/houston-no-air-conditioning-how-people-cope/). Other federal programs will help low income Texans get solar panels (https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2023/07/06/clean-energy-can-be-a-lifeline-for-low-income-texans/) and battery storage systems.)

Third, Texas needs to do far more to help Texans optimize energy use. Texas spends a pittance on this (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1601011994920128513?s=20), which costs all of us more when electricity demand spikes during extreme heat or cold. Energy optimization helps people reduce use during times of peak demand and use more when there’s more electricity on the grid. It’s about getting more of what we want out of our energy system, using less power on peak to get it, and spending less money overall.

Fourth, Texas utilities don’t do nearly enough to help customers with low incomes to pay their bills. As one example, CenterPoint, one of the largest utilities in the country covering most of the Houston area, spends only $4 million on such programs (https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/search/documents/?controlNumber=55088&itemNumber=1). (https://interchange.puc.texas.gov/search/documents/?controlNumber=55088&itemNumber=1) (By contrast, their CEO made $38 million last year (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/centerpoint-energy-david-lesar-overpaid-17790996.php#:~:text=David%20J.,a%20pay%20of%20%24 37.8%20million.).) They reached only 2,000 homes; Houston has over 300,000 households in extreme poverty, earning less than 30% of Area Median Income (https://tepri.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/TEPRI_LICPTexasOverview_August2019_REVISION_v3.pdf ) (AMI). This is an acute problem. These funds should be increased and focused first and foremost on the people who need them the most.

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Fifth, we should let all Texans profit from programs that reward customers for shifting their use. Today, factory owners and Bitcoin miners get paid to reduce power use when demand is high — but homeowners and renters don’t (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/opinion/texas-heat-wave-power-outages.html?unlocked_article_code=so1MUdgQemVq79P phdoaAzVsMQdxq3gYT3ehvufqCDEY8fpMvzyk5Jm73_uzo2Ck6-c2AHen7pvnmXU-rYroP95ciOLF1PQApvIkYSfJkHX3AlycU4mN8YdExrOwgdAwar At6EAc7B6pSIHjyuifOd2gUkY6KXz0sIFEfltIOnGm1YrQcrgF lgHgktIirkC1NhW5wqzA7IMJs7RTzuuedWFN89yM2pR7S3A09S FuqtSeBH3x0TwdB8tr4ctjdAsgIpUZ8Rko_GwDeWwo6b42rTkz 85-dcokqc-pcG72_YPoD8PmDI4KJtEOz9qnfcoOsxSyf-I--EDa08KiJuPNCn1ukWDRxrlof&smid=url-share). That’s wrong, and it’s a problem for the grid.

I wrote recently about 4CP (https://www.douglewin.com/p/texas-has-never-had-a-summer-blackout), a pricing program that allows big customers to reduce their bills by 20-30% (sometimes more) by using less when energy use peaks. That’s good, but it’s patently unfair that no price signal is available to small customers. The Independent Market Monitor has told the PUC for nearly a decade that 4CP shifts costs (https://www.potomaceconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2022-State-of-the-Market-Report_Final_060623.pdf) from big to small customers. Homeowners, renters, and small businesses need a similar avenue to shift their use and reduce their bills.
https://www.douglewin.com/p/of-heat-waves-and-waves-of-utility

[Blake]

Goddam their CEO made $38 mil?

I thought CPS Energy CEO made a lot...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They do not track anything to do with the power grid. Like with education, Abbot tasked the Sunset Commission to analyze the grid in the wake of the winter storm a few years back.

One of the central recommendations was to track grid usage including outages and cutoffs in a central database. The idea being that we are in a position of supreme ignorance as to what is going on.

Of course Abbott nor the legislature has done any of the recommendations. Meanwhile, we get special sessions that nobody but Abbot wants.

https://www.sunset.texas.gov/public/uploads/2022-11/PUC%2C%20ERCOT%20and%20OPUC%20Executive%20Summary_ 0.pdf

[baseline bum]

https://www.wfla.com/weather/climate-classroom/earths-hottest-weather-in-120000-years-its-just-getting-started/

Pretty crazy how man has dug ourselves out of the little ice age to where we're at now. This state is going to be so fucked by 2060. I feel really bad for young people who will be paying the price for decades from boomers not giving a shit about the planet.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.douglewin.com/p/of-heat-waves-and-waves-of-utility

I don't know why Michigan is so high when in most of the state you can just open your windows 10 months or so out of the year and be comfortable... I guess it does get too hot through like late August to Mid september.

[Extra Stout]

Modern civilization runs on cheap energy.

Since the Industrial Revolution, that has come from fossil fuels.

Replacing cheap fossil fuels with a much more expensive or unscalable alternative would end modern civilization.

The climate impact of fossil fuels might end modern civilization.

Quite the Catch-22.

I hope the smart people make the alternatives cheap and scalable before we hit 3.0.

[pgardn]

Modern civilization runs on cheap energy.

Since the Industrial Revolution, that has come from fossil fuels.

Replacing cheap fossil fuels with a much more expensive or unscalable alternative would end modern civilization.

The climate impact of fossil fuels might end modern civilization.

Quite the Catch-22.

I hope the smart people make the alternatives cheap and scalable before we hit 3.0.

Fossil fuels wont be replaced for a long time.
We already have scalable less expensive alternatives for most of our electric needs. And its going to get much better and more widespread.
It should and will take advantage of each situation for particular parts of the country and also should have the ability to be replaced and or moved as climate dictates.
And lots more to come.

Once we can control voltage better and store energy in a gravitational field staring us in the face, things should take off. Its coming. We will definitely be able to bypass batteries in some of these situations. More energy gets stored that can be used to turn turbines, not just rely on heated water, steam, or hydroelectric from natural water cycles. Not to mention fusion either because imo its also further down the road.

[Extra Stout]

We also should figure out cheaply how to generate as much energy as has been produced by all fossil fuels over the past 150 years so that we can scrub CO2 out of the atmosphere and get back down to 280. It won’t be the status quo ante quite, but it will be better than what’s coming.

[pgardn]

We also should figure out cheaply how to generate as much energy as has been produced by all fossil fuels over the past 150 years so that we can scrub CO2 out of the atmosphere and get back down to 280. It won’t be the status quo ante quite, but it will be better than what’s coming.

It’s looking like hydrogen can be the interim replacement for fossil fuel in some cases.
Natural gas still produces CO2 but all the other bi product “kill your lungs shit” from longer hydrocarbons gets vastly reduced. This burning of larger hydrocarbons and coal is directly affecting peoples breathing especially in poor countries.

[baseline bum]

Now at 16 days for 2023 with 100+ forecast every day for the next two weeks. So hard to not see this end up at least a top 5 hottest summer. And in a fucking El Nino year. Average summer here is supposed to be 18 days of 100+.

[boutons_deux]

As Global Temperatures Soar,

Study Shows Europe's 2022 Summer Heat Killed 61,000+


https://www.commondreams.org/news/europe-2022-heat-deaths

In 2019. a heat wave kill 15000 in France alone.

[SnakeBoy]

lol doom & gloomers

[baseline bum]

lol doom & gloomers

lol global warming deniers

[Blake]

lol doom & gloomers

I mean you're kind of old any way so what do you care if it's 120 degrees forty days in a row in the year 2050

[boutons_deux]

It’s looking like hydrogen can be the interim replacement for fossil fuel in some cases.
Natural gas still produces CO2 but all the other bi product “kill your lungs shit” from longer hydrocarbons gets vastly reduced. This burning of larger hydrocarbons and coal is directly affecting peoples breathing especially in poor countries.

Producing and storing hydrogen is looking better every week. so much research globally

As with EV charging networks, hydrogen infrastructure will be a speed bump

btw, copper prices for EVs, HEVs will push copper price very high for a long time

The explosion of renewable energy sources has overwhelmed the mostly-investor-owned, antiquated national grid.

The Capitalists will extort $Ts from taxpayers to subsidize grid investments, then charge exorbitant rates for delierying energy. national grid should be nationalized

[ElNono]

lol global warming deniers

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-SvzDuFfyt3AJ9fO1-iQrV9Q-t500x500.jpg

lol this meme applying literally

[pgardn]

Its all OK people. I will be dead in 10 years so who cares?

[SnakeBoy]

lol global warming deniers

You got your thermostat set on 82F yet?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You got your thermostat set on 82F yet?

Ahh yes the DMC, you don't demonstrate in the way that I want that you to care about the issue so the issue isn't real argument.

[baseline bum]

You got your thermostat set on 82F yet?

lol global warming deniers

[pgardn]

lol global warming deniers

Snaked underwent extreme wretchedness after Trump lost.
Rotted his brain.

[SnakeBoy]

Ahh yes the DMC, you don't demonstrate in the way that I want that you to care about the issue so the issue isn't real argument.

Middle aged man crying about the boomers, the heat, muh lawn, while doing exactly the same thing as the boomers isn't a real argument either.

[SnakeBoy]

Modern civilization runs on cheap energy.

Since the Industrial Revolution, that has come from fossil fuels.

Replacing cheap fossil fuels with a much more expensive or unscalable alternative would end modern civilization.

The climate impact of fossil fuels might end modern civilization.

Quite the Catch-22.

I hope the smart people make the alternatives cheap and scalable before we hit 3.0.

The alternatives will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It won't be too much longer, and fossil fuels will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It's not doom and gloom though, future generations will just be forced to live more sustainably than we do.

[baseline bum]

Middle aged man crying about the boomers, the heat, muh lawn, while doing exactly the same thing as the boomers isn't a real argument either.

LOL global warming being a matter of personal responsibility.

[Blake]

Canada's farthest northern regions are seeing an unprecedented heat wave leading to some of the hottest days ever recorded.

The temperatures over the weekend in the Northwest Territories exceeded previous records, weather experts say.

The latest extreme weather comes as Canada battles the worst wildfire season it has ever seen. Millions have been impacted by the harmful smoke.

Unofficial records show Earth saw its highest ever temperatures on Thursday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66160243

[pgardn]

The alternatives will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It won't be too much longer, and fossil fuels will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It's not doom and gloom though, future generations will just be forced to live more sustainably than we do.

What a bunch of time frame BS.

Fossil fuels were never as cheap as slaves or horses.

And said fully knowing:
wind and solar are getting us through the hottest part of the summer day…
Snaked cries “crank up the hydrocarbons bitches, let’s go ozone alert every day. Put particulate shit in the air so what, I’m staying inside.”

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Middle aged man crying about the boomers, the heat, muh lawn, while doing exactly the same thing as the boomers isn't a real argument either.

Slight pivot but still all ad hominem.

Him being a hypocrite -not established mind you- probably does make you feel justified in your shitty behavior but neither of your behaviors has anything to do with whether or not the globe is warming. It also does not mean your shitty behavior is okay either. Each stands on its own for all you want of a moral zero sum game.

[SnakeBoy]

Fossil fuels were never as cheap as slaves or horses.



Try math

1 Barrels Of Oil Equivalent to Horsepower-hours = 2279.7376



And said fully knowing:
wind and solar are getting us through the hottest part of the summer day…
Snaked cries “crank up the hydrocarbons bitches, let’s go ozone alert every day. Put particulate shit in the air so what, I’m staying inside.”

lol those imaginary conversations you keep having in your head

[Leetonidas]

Ahh yes the DMC, you don't demonstrate in the way that I want that you to care about the issue so the issue isn't real argument.

Where is DMC anyway. Did his arteries finally clog? :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Where is DMC anyway. Did his arteries finally clog? :lol

Oh I imagine he is behind one of these angry GOPotard accounts that use his same arguments.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Try math

1 Barrels Of Oil Equivalent to Horsepower-hours = 2279.7376



lol those imaginary conversations you keep having in your head

Sure but you paid for a slave or horse once and then got them and their progeny in perpetuity. You had to only keep them alive from there.

Thus the discussion about renewable and nonrenewable resources.

You GOPotards are always amusing when you fixate on a point of fact and lose sight of the argument.

[pgardn]

Try math

1 Barrels Of Oil Equivalent to Horsepower-hours = 2279.7376



lol those imaginary conversations you keep having in your head

Horsepower hours WHEN you fkn idiot? Horses had their time. The initial investment on machines to do THE HORSES WORK cost money fk tard.
And do you know what a horse runs on? What is the fuel?
The horse is THE MACHINE.

What do you do? Throw hydrocarbons into a field and tell the fuel to harvest the crop ya fkn idiot? International Harvester loves you snaked... you are indeed amazing.
Farmer Snaked giving us the lowdown.
And these are our Republican businessmen running the country?

[TSA]

Horsepower hours WHEN you fkn idiot? Horses had their time. The initial investment on machines to do THE HORSES WORK cost money fk tard.
And do you know what a horse runs on? What is the fuel?
The horse is THE MACHINE.

What do you do? Throw hydrocarbons into a field and tell the fuel to harvest the crop ya fkn idiot? International Harvester loves you snaked... you are indeed amazing.
Farmer Snaked giving us the lowdown.
And these are our Republican businessmen running the country?
Kori Ellis timvp is there a plugin that works with the website to translate this jibberish?

[pgardn]

Kori Ellis (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6) timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) is there a plugin that works with the website to translate this jibberish?

Machines replaced horses ya dumb fk.
A new technology replaced animals.
Be scared of these changes in agricultural methods and transportation.
Also be scared in methods created to transfer and transport energy. It’s new, it’s bad.

Dumb as a fkn rock… THE RED TEAM TSA.
Our businessmen…

[pgardn]

Say TSA?

You think there were people who were leery of going from horse to machine?
You think when that first clunky machine came into town on a dirt road, that everyone said how badly the wanted this thing when it broke down in front of them and they learned the cost was more than their farm?

We are past this point with solar and wind for many cases. Get it?

[koriwhat]

Snaked underwent extreme wretchedness after Trump lost.
Rotted his brain.

Seems to have done the same to your pea brain but that would mean your pea brain wasn't rotted already.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Seems to have done the same to your pea brain but that would mean your pea brain wasn't rotted already.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

BTW, you're demonstrably stupid. thus it is not near as effective.

[Blake]

Kori Ellis timvp is there a plugin that works with the website to translate this jibberish?

Can we also get a cliff's notes plugin for tsa's text mountains when asked to answer a simple question

[koriwhat]

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

BTW, you're demonstrably stupid. thus it is not near as effective.

I'd run circles around you in most facets of life bro. You're a pussy! :tu

BTW, you're demonstrably a pathological liar. thus no one believes shit you got to say, Powder Puff Girl.

[baseline bum]

Ugh we're at the beginning of the heat wave and because of this fucked up pattern we're in the local news was saying not to be surprised if we challenge the record of 21 straight days of 100+

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'd run circles around you in most facets of life bro. You're a pussy! :tu

BTW, you're demonstrably a pathological liar. thus no one believes shit you got to say, Powder Puff Girl.

Now with the megalomania. What drugs you on, mooch? False pride is a hallmark of cocaine use.

In the meantime you are parroting my digs and schtick all over the place. You can "run circles around me" but I am demonstrably in your head.

[Ef-man]

Now with the megalomania. What drugs you on, mooch? False pride is a hallmark of cocaine use.

In the meantime you are parroting my digs and schtick all over the place. You can "run circles around me" but I am demonstrably in your head.

Come on Fuzzy, coke is for rich people, not for an on-call tramp stamper like him; joey is a skinny ass meth head who would blow anyone for $5 to get a fix with BOGO sales on Friday.

[Winehole23]

Where is DMC anyway. Did his arteries finally clog? :lolhopefully he found a fonder pastime, I hope we all do too!

[Winehole23]

(privately, I have worried that DMC has died. it's hard to know on an anonymous forum. I don't recall any death notices here beside maybe whottt, am I dreaming?)

[baseline bum]

hopefully he found a fonder pastime, I hope we all do too!

Too hot to do anything interesting tbh

[koriwhat]

Now with the megalomania. What drugs you on, mooch? False pride is a hallmark of cocaine use.

In the meantime you are parroting my digs and schtick all over the place. You can "run circles around me" but I am demonstrably in your head.

You can keep acting like Mr Know It All all you'd like but I know "dudes" like you and they're just a pathetic as you come off as. I know damn well I'd run circles around you in most facets of life and I'm damn confident about it.

My "pride" isn't coming from the use of cocaine seeing how I don't do cocaine. More fairytales made up by your dumbass because you have no clue what you're talking about. You have no real world experience with anything so it's no wonder you live in your make believe world within your empty head.

You're a fucking loser bro and given the chance I'd put you in the hospital puto. :tu

[TSA]

Machines replaced horses ya dumb fk.
A new technology replaced animals.
Be scared of these changes in agricultural methods and transportation.
Also be scared in methods created to transfer and transport energy. It’s new, it’s bad.

Dumb as a fkn rock… THE RED TEAM TSA.
Our businessmen…

I am not scared of any of these changes and welcome them. You constantly just make shit up in your head that no one said and then argue against it.

What is wrong with you? Serious question.

[TSA]

(privately, I have worried that DMC has died. it's hard to know on an anonymous forum. I don't recall any death notices here beside maybe whottt, am I dreaming?)

He most likely got bored with going back and forth with the same 10 posters here about the same bullshit every day. I'm nearing that point as well.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You can keep acting like Mr Know It All all you'd like but I know "dudes" like you and they're just a pathetic as you come off as. I know damn well I'd run circles around you in most facets of life and I'm damn confident about it.

My "pride" isn't coming from the use of cocaine seeing how I don't do cocaine. More fairytales made up by your dumbass because you have no clue what you're talking about. You have no real world experience with anything so it's no wonder you live in your make believe world within your empty head.

You're a fucking loser bro and given the chance I'd put you in the hospital puto. :tu

Doubling down on the white trash behavior is fun but at the end off the day you are complaining about me to other people. It's funny too because you are then either ignored or your ideas are rejected.

But at the end of the day you are whinging about me. It is what it is.

[koriwhat]

Doubling down on the white trash behavior is fun but at the end off the day you are complaining about me to other people. It's funny too because you are then either ignored or your ideas are rejected.

But at the end of the day you are whinging about me. It is what it is.

All about you right? Ego right? Yeah thought so and I've always said as such. You're so egotistical but that won't ever help you truly be a "man" because you'll always be less than a shell of one. You're pathetic bro and the internet is all you got.

You're so mad because you know you're a pathetic excuse of a male. With all the bs you spew my way at the end of the day I'll continue to laugh at you because you know I'm right about how pathetic you are here and irl. Keep hiding in that house you little bitch. :tu:lol

[Winehole23]

THE ISLAND OF Svalbard, about halfway between mainland Norway and the North Pole, is warming twice as fast as the rest of the Arctic, which itself is warming up to four and a half times faster (https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-arctic-is-warming-4-times-as-fast-as-the-rest-of-earth/) than the rest of the planet. Scientists just discovered that the island’s retreating glaciers are creating a potentially significant climate feedback loop: When the ice disappears, groundwater that’s supersaturated with methane bubbles to the surface. Methane is an extremely potent greenhouse gas (https://www.wired.com/story/the-ipcc-reports-silver-lining-we-can-tackle-methane-now/), 80 times as powerful as carbon dioxide. This groundwater can have more than 600,000 times the methane of a cup of water that’s been sitting with its surface exposed to air.

“What that means is that once it hits the atmosphere, it’s going to equilibrate, and it’s going to release as much methane as it can—quickly,” says Gabrielle Kleber, a glacial biogeochemist at University of Cambridge and the University Centre in Svalbard and lead author of a new paper (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-023-01210-6) describing the discovery in Nature Geoscience. “It’s about 2,300 tons of methane that’s released annually from springs just on Svalbard. It’s maybe equivalent to something like 30,000 cows.” (Cows burp methane—a lot of it (https://www.wired.com/story/the-controversial-quest-to-make-cow-burps-less-noxious/).)
https://www.wired.com/story/the-arctic-is-a-freezer-thats-losing-power/

[pgardn]

Kori Ellis (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6) timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) is there a plugin that works with the website to translate this jibberish?


I am not scared of any of these changes and welcome them. You constantly just make shit up in your head that no one said and then argue against it.

What is wrong with you? Serious question.

Then quit jumping the thread where I am addressing another poster.
You are wandering into the middle of a movie where I am addressing THAT posters concerns.
You then claim you have no idea what I am talking about when there is already history with the other poster.

Seriously what is wrong with you?
Just stay the fk out of an argument when you have no clue what is going on.
This poster appeared to have no clue that before the industrial revolution we used animals as sources of energy.
My analogy was fossil fuels CAN be replaced in certain areas by new sources of energy just like the switch from animal to machine.
Horses run on very cheap fuel. Machines not so. But machines are much more efficient. We CAN transition was the point, we already have.
Texas is being saved this summer by wind and solar used for cooling. You wont hear hardly ANYTHING about this from the red team about this because the involuntary response is drill baby drill, this is Texas.

You best just stay the fk out of arguments you wander into the middle or end of. You knee jerk in with stupidity, I will knee jerk like you stand where the other poster does. What do you expect dumb shit. Especially with your history with pizza and viruses that are flat out wrong.

[SnakeBoy]

Horses run on very cheap fuel.

Slaves and horses were more expensive than the fossil fuels that drove the industrial revolution. Do the math.

[SnakeBoy]

He most likely got bored with going back and forth with the same 10 posters here about the same bullshit every day. I'm nearing that point as well.

Or he realized Trump broke them and they're never going to recover.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Snacks doesn't realize that Trump broke him and the other "conservatives" like him and they're never going to recover.

[Winehole23]

https://media.tenor.com/us7fggHPuXcAAAAM/tilt.gif

[pgardn]

Slaves and horses were more expensive than the fossil fuels that drove the industrial revolution. Do the math.

Grazing on grass... I dont think so. When machines first came into use they were much more expensive than horses, there is no math. And many ran on steam that burned coal. The initial cost eventually paid off especially as machines got better. This was mainly for transporting material, traveling, and farming. Go to your farm and use a horse. It will be less expensive. If it dies get another. Horses are extremely cheap. They have plenty of adoption farms. Go get one. Never call a vet. Then get another when your first horse dies.
What is your problem here?

Its like you dont think there is a history of technology. Just because you adore hydrocarbons does not mean others sources of more direct energy cant be used.
You dont think wind and solar farms in Texas are paying off? Why does Texas uses more wind energy than any country in the world except the US? And why do you think Texas is #1 in producing wind energy in the US? You think this should all be done off methane and coal or what?

edit: AGAIN snaked. You think fossil fuels alone do the work? They dont require machines...? So grass is the fuel for horses and fossil fuels were and are the fuel for machines. Do you understand this? The machines are not free. How in the world can you keep up with the fed, inflation, unemployment, etc... when you cant even understand the above?

[CosmicCowboy]

As someone who is finally out of the horse business horses aren't that cheap. They have to eat 24/7/365 even when they aren't working. Grass isn't always available and hay and grain isn't cheap. Rescue horse may make good yard ornaments but it takes a huge amount of work and training to make them dependable for riding/work.

[SnakeBoy]

Too hot to do anything interesting tbh

Better start enjoying the heat while you can. Only 2 1/2 years left.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AK-O5hICxE

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F07am2DX0AMnXtI?format=jpg&name=small

[pgardn]

As someone who is finally out of the horse business horses aren't that cheap. They have to eat 24/7/365 even when they aren't working. Grass isn't always available and hay and grain isn't cheap. Rescue horse may make good yard ornaments but it takes a huge amount of work and training to make them dependable for riding/work.

Its bullshit in the context of the original comparison of horses and machines working for us. Lets not go through more farting stuff this is easy. And as someone who owns horses right now I know this stuff but I would refer to my wife for the greatest details. And if you know people you can tradeoff with the care and any needed trailering (hey you need a machine to move horses!)You especially should be able to hire someone it sounds like.
You can get horses very cheap. You can adopt them easily. You do have to spend time on them depending on what you want them to do which is recreational for the vast majority of people. Vet bills are by far the biggest expense along with food. But, if you have good fields, you can avoid a hell of a lot of grain. Many people keep the horses way too skinny or too fat because they are lazy and dont need to own them.

And the point is this:
We are comparing the industrial revolution to present.. Because horses are used for a very different functions and its mostly recreational. Machinery has taken over the old duty of horses. If you own horses today you are most likely into it as a hobby so you already got the bucks. Horses were replaced by Machines. But the machines were much more expensive than the horses when the switchover from horsepower (to what should be Watts today) to machine power occurred during the industrial revolution and after.

This is not rocket science and the analogy is not that hard. Its technological advances in agriculture and transportation that have eliminated the need for horses except for rare cases. In the same way machines that produce energy for electricity using hydrocarbons are being replaced by machines that dont. ESPECIALLY if we take in the consequences of producing too much CO2 and how it has cost our economy. Again. I thought the red team were supposed to understand business. Im not getting this. Hydrocarbons have their place, BUT a needed switch is taking place that Snaked hates.

[SnakeBoy]

But the machines were much more expensive than the horses when the switchover from horsepower (to what should be Watts today) to machine power occurred during the industrial revolution and after.


You've almost fumbled your way back to the original topic...energy cost.
Now
Do the math
Cost per watt, cost per joule, cost per hp, whatever floats your boat

[pgardn]

You've almost fumbled your way back to the original topic...energy cost.
Now
Do the math
Cost per watt, cost per joule, cost per hp, whatever floats your boat

Bullshit.
Your intent was to pray to hydrocarbons as god when we are going through another change in technology that you cant handle.
Windpower and solar are saving your ass this summer and you dont even accept it.
And this does not even take into account the economic damage from the overuse of hydrocarbons that has produced so much CO2 so quickly. Starting with the industrial revolution. Take a look back at Winehole's timeline.

[SnakeBoy]

Bullshit.
Your intent was to pray to hydrocarbons as god when we are going through another change in technology that you cant handle.
Windpower and solar are saving your ass this summer and you dont even accept it.
And this does not even take into account the economic damage from the overuse of hydrocarbons that has produced so much CO2 so quickly. Starting with the industrial revolution. Take a look back at Winehole's timeline.

Right back to imaginary conversations with yourself. Sad but funny.

[TSA]

Right back to imaginary conversations with yourself. Sad but funny.

These are happening much more frequently. He's got some serious issues going on mentally.

[SnakeBoy]

These are happening much more frequently. He's got some serious issues going on mentally.

I think he's having some sort of mid-life crisis. Keeps talking about exercising obsessively trying to reverse the clock. Poor fella can't afford a decent bicycle at his age, I feel kinda bad for him.

[ChumpDumper]

lol his budget for a bicycle is $1000. That's decent.

[pgardn]

The alternatives will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It won't be too much longer, and fossil fuels will never be as cheap as the fossil fuels that built modern civilization. It's not doom and gloom though, future generations will just be forced to live more sustainably than we do.


The amount of stupidity in this is off the chart.
Read it closely. Modern civilization... fossil fuels... Its absolutely stupid to say something like this with technology expanding as rapidly into energy as it is now.
The amount of money due the abnormally rapid rise in CO2 is costing us right now is ridiculous. Is this in your accounting work?

[pgardn]

These are happening much more frequently. He's got some serious issues going on mentally.

Coming from pizza and alien biomolecule man this is ironic.
You consistently put some of the most bizarre shit out on this board.
But I guess you are consistently in another world so its ok.

[pgardn]

lol his budget for a bicycle is $1000. That's decent.

I rode a 3000 dollar bike and it was ridiculously easy. Im going in. (brakes were hydraulic, shifting gears was crazy easy to feel and so smooth/)
Its weird because my kayak is that expensive but I have gotten so much use and good times out of it that I compare it to a bike ride and it does not add up. I would much rather fish from a kayak in the heat than ride a bike.
Its like I want to have specific types of events occur more than I want objects. But I do need the objects to have a chance of experiencing a great time. As a child I remember having the most wonderful time with friends just playing in cardboard boxes. Maybe I should just have a bike shipped in and play with the packaging...

[Winehole23]

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[Chucho]

I just came back here and god damn...I hate this city.

[baseline bum]

Fucking 105 forecast again today, fifth day in a row of 104+. This shit is not normal even in hot ass San Antonio.

[baseline bum]

Also we get to 20 days of 100+ for 2023 today. Not much of a stretch to think we could be beyond that 50 year record total of 33 in 1948 by the end of July. This is definitely on track to be easily a top 5 hottest summer ever recorded here.

[baseline bum]

Ugh looks like Day 6 in a row of 104+

[Blake]

I have family in Salt Lake that I wanted to visit soon to get away from the heat but they're hitting 100 degrees almost every day this coming week

[SnakeBoy]

I have family in Salt Lake that I wanted to visit soon to get away from the heat but they're hitting 100 degrees almost every day this coming week

Go where the rich people go...Colorado

[Blake]

Go where the rich people go...Colorado

Even Colorado Springs will hit 94 on Monday

[Extra Stout]

Fucking 105 forecast again today, fifth day in a row of 104+. This shit is not normal even in hot ass San Antonio.
It is now.

[baseline bum]

It is now.

Starting to be the new normal these last two years

[Extra Stout]

Starting to be the new normal these last two years
Late in our children’s lives 108-110 will be “normal.” Hopefully desalinization will be cheap. Even if it is, I expect that the Rust Belt will repopulate simply because its climate will still be tolerable.

[baseline bum]

Late in our children’s lives 108-110 will be “normal.” Hopefully desalinization will be cheap. Even if it is, I expect that the Rust Belt will repopulate simply because its climate will still be tolerable.

Ain't got too far to go, will probably be the case by 2060. I can't see how desalinization would ever be cheap though.

[Extra Stout]

Ain't got too far to go, will probably be the case by 2060. I can't see how desalinization would ever be cheap though.
Lower pressure drop through the reverse osmosis membranes would mean less energy to produce.

[ElNono]

I think he's having some sort of mid-life crisis. Keeps talking about exercising obsessively trying to reverse the clock. Poor fella can't afford a decent bicycle at his age, I feel kinda bad for him.

You would know about mid-life crisis, tbh, especially after Old Joe took you for a spin, and you haven't recovered.

[ElNono]

Late in our children’s lives 108-110 will be “normal.” Hopefully desalinization will be cheap. Even if it is, I expect that the Rust Belt will repopulate simply because its climate will still be tolerable.

Just hoping it accelerates the cleansing of the Boomer population, tbh...

[CosmicCowboy]

Curious...what is it exactly that you dislike about "boomers"? Do you hate your parents too?

[pgardn]

I rode a 3000 dollar bike and it was ridiculously easy. Im going in. (brakes were hydraulic, shifting gears was crazy easy to feel and so smooth/)
Its weird because my kayak is that expensive but I have gotten so much use and good times out of it that I compare it to a bike ride and it does not add up. I would much rather fish from a kayak in the heat than ride a bike.
Its like I want to have specific types of events occur more than I want objects. But I do need the objects to have a chance of experiencing a great time. As a child I remember having the most wonderful time with friends just playing in cardboard boxes. Maybe I should just have a bike shipped in and play with the packaging...

No way this is a happening.
You actually have to take good care of these things I now find out.
I would have to learn something about these bikes for fixes.
I need something I can just throw in the back of my pickup and not think about it.

[baseline bum]

Just hoping it accelerates the cleansing of the Boomer population, tbh...

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[ElNono]

Curious...what is it exactly that you dislike about "boomers"? Do you hate your parents too?

Probably shorter to describe what I like about them, tbh.

Too much stuff to list, but one of them is living large on the country's credit card, cheap mortgages and credit, and now telling future generations that they need to tighten the belt. This is also the generation that brought us NIMBYs, etc and all the me, me, me.

Boomers are by and large a US disease, my parents never lived here...

[pgardn]

Probably shorter to describe what I like about them, tbh.

Too much stuff to list, but one of them is living large on the country's credit card, cheap mortgages and credit, and now telling future generations that they need to tighten the belt. This is also the generation that brought us NIMBYs, etc and all the me, me, me.

Boomers are by and large a US disease, my parents never lived here...

“Tighten the belts but don’t you touch my Medicare. I earned that right even though I voted for a guy who had absolutely NO PLAN to fix health care. And then I voted for him again knowing how much he spent, and how much he failed with healthcare and Covid”

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Curious...what is it exactly that you dislike about "boomers"? Do you hate your parents too?

I think the largest component is the way your generation voted from when you came into power in the 1980s and ever since.

It was it's worst with the Reagan hero worship while shoving through more supply side side stupidity in the era of Tea Party. Since then the generation ahs been dying off and less impactful except that the ruling class is generally all boomers.

Throw on top of that the typical human behavior of demonizing the youth and you get what you get.