Record for most days over 100 degrees per year in San Antonio

[baseline bum]

Weather never equals climate. Unless it's hot weather, then it totally equals climate.

Here's the part when Snakes blames urban heat islands for the ocean temps

[Ef-man]

Here's the part when Snakes blames urban heat islands for the ocean temps

And beer, wine, and mixed drinks are not bad for you, it is the alcohol.

[CosmicCowboy]

Dang, it's been pretty warm lately.

[pgardn]

Weather never equals climate. Unless it's hot weather, then it totally equals climate.

Cold weather is also a part of the current equation.
Its about temp extremes with a rise in average temp.
Why cant you get this. Do you need two side by side graphs for illustration.
Or I can tell you how to draw them for yourself. Then you can practice over and over.

[baseline bum]

Dang, it's been pretty warm lately.

Here's another one for you

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302405

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 44 days and counting in 2023 as of August 9th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948

https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

Also Weather Channel has San Antonio at 105 as of 3:45, so good chance the airport hits it too and I'll also need to bump the other thread

[baseline bum]

And 105 at 4:15PM

[Ef-man]

And 105 at 4:15PM

muh but it is a "dry heat" :lol

[baseline bum]

And 106 at 5PM.

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 45 days and counting in 2023 as of August 10th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948

https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

Hopefully don't have to bump the 105 thread today

[baseline bum]

Nope, the 105 thread is getting bumped too

[RandomGuy]

Weather never equals climate. Unless it's hot weather, then it totally equals climate.

https://www.credocourses.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/straw-man-informal-logical-fallacy.jpg

Extreme weather, and the increasing instances of extreme weather events are climate.

The globe is generally getting hotter, and at a rate that is unlike any previous warming we have record of.

Feel free to explain the rate of change. Science says it is humans releasing millions of tons of CO2 into the air every year.

I have yet to see you have any honest argument about this, ever.

[RandomGuy]

Weather never equals climate. Unless it's hot weather, then it totally equals climate.

CO2 level in atmosphere when I was born in 1970: 330ppm
CO2 level in atmosphere most current reading: 423ppm

The global average surface temperature in May 2023 was 1.22°C above the average for the pre-industrial comparison period of 1880-1920

Snakeboy: but someone told me to believe it might hurt my stock portfolio to fix things and that is more important! :rolleyes

Your kids and grandkids will spit on your memory.

[Monostradamus]

Weather never equals climate. Unless it's hot weather, then it totally equals climate.
Sup Snakebot, how you doing after getting hit with that folding chair?

[baseline bum]

Might as well just call it now

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 46 days and counting in 2023 as of August 11th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948

https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

And the forecast gets us to 60 and a new record in two weeks

https://i.ibb.co/s37VRxC/forecast.png

[baseline bum]

And we're back on the leaderboard again for most consecutive days of 100+

1. 21 days in 1962
2. 15 days in 2023 (July)
2. 15 days in 2013
4. 14 days in 2022
5. 13 days and counting in 2023 as of August 11th (July/August)
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 47 days and counting in 2023 as of August 12th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 15 days in 2023 (July)
2. 15 days in 2013
4. 14 days and counting in 2023 as of August 12th (July/August)
4. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[koriwhat]

Most consecutive days of 100+
2. 15 days in 2023 (July)

OMG it's hot as fuck and has been for some time now. I was out in the back yard, with my new weed eater, drenched in sweat after 10 minutes out there tending to the yard yesterday. Sucks but it's got to be done. Thankfully I keep water near by and know my limit even though at the gym it's close to 120+ because of no AC in there and worse in the ring with gear on. I'm somewhat used to the excessive heat but I still hate it nonetheless.

Stay hydrated BB and out of the heat! :tu

[baseline bum]

OMG it's hot as fuck and has been for some time now. I was out in the back yard, with my new weed eater, drenched in sweat after 10 minutes out there tending to the yard yesterday. Sucks but it's got to be done. Thankfully I keep water near by and know my limit even though at the gym it's close to 120+ because of no AC in there and worse in the ring with gear on. I'm somewhat used to the excessive heat but I still hate it nonetheless.

Stay hydrated BB and out of the heat! :tu

Yeah yardwork sucks right now. Been painting my house but only do it 6AM to 8:30AM before taking a shower and starting work (thank fucking god for work from home since 2020). Tried to do it in the early evening at 7PM too but no fucking way, still over 100 by then most of the time.

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 48 days and counting in 2023 as of August 13th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 15 days and counting in 2023 as of August 13th (July/August)
2. 15 days in 2023 (July)
2. 15 days in 2013
4. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Ef-man]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 48 days and counting in 2023 as of August 13th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 15 days and counting in 2023 as of August 13th (July/August)
2. 15 days in 2023 (July)
2. 15 days in 2013
4. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

Am still surprised that the MAGAs have not brought up the lizard people overlord conspiracy involving them terraforming the earth and taking over or did I miss the post?

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 49 days and counting in 2023 as of August 14th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 16 days and counting in 2023 as of August 14th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 50 days and counting in 2023 as of August 15th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 17 days and counting in 2023 as of August 15th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Thread]

Yeah yardwork sucks right now. Been painting my house but only do it 6AM to 8:30AM before taking a shower and starting work (thank fucking god for work from home since 2020). Tried to do it in the early evening at 7PM too but no fucking way, still over 100 by then most of the time.

Amen.

[baseline bum]

94 at 11:15. Might as well call it now. Remains to be seen if the 105 thread needs a bump too today.

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 51 days and counting in 2023 as of August 16th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 18 days and counting in 2023 as of August 16th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

Also through August 15th our monthly average high temperature is 104.134, which massacres the current hottest month ever recorded here of July 2022 that had an average high of 101.7.

[Extra Stout]

The current pace of warming is something like 0.5 F every 10 years. Many of us will live long enough that in old our old age we will remember when it only got to 105 in San Antonio during the summer.

[Thread]

The current pace of warming is something like 0.5 F every 10 years. Many of us will live long enough that in old our old age we will remember when it only got to 105 in San Antonio during the summer.

Oh, please, we ain't even supposed to here this morning according to Gore 30 years ago.

[Extra Stout]

Oh, please, we ain't even supposed to here this morning according to Gore 30 years ago.
I appreciate you. It’s easy to maintain my prejudices with people like you around to confirm all of them.

[Thread]

I appreciate you. It’s easy to maintain my prejudices with people like you around to confirm all of them.

What's that got to do with the price of eggs, Stout?

[Ef-man]

Also through August 15th our monthly average high temperature is 104.134, which massacres the current hottest month ever recorded here of July 2022 that had an average high of 101.7.

On the plus side, it makes days with temperatures in the 90s feel wonderful, so there is that.

[baseline bum]

On the plus side, it makes days with temperatures in the 90s feel wonderful, so there is that.

Yeah maybe we'll see some of those next month

[boutons_deux]

Sept begins with high at 100, and ends with highs in low 80s, forecast

[baseline bum]

Sept begins with high at 100, and ends with highs in low 80s, forecast

Nope that's October that has average highs in the low 80s by the end of the month. September has average highs in the high 80s by the end of the month. Though historical averages are pretty much bullshit these days with how aggressive global warming has gotten. I don't think we have been at or below historical average more than 5 times this summer.

[baseline bum]

88 degrees at 9:30AM. Might as well call it now

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 52 days and counting in 2023 as of August 17th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 19 days and counting in 2023 as of August 17th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[koriwhat]

Oh, please, we ain't even supposed to here this morning according to Gore 30 years ago.

Ain't that the fucking truth! Of course the shit regressives will have more excuses like always to try and "debunk" you. :lmao

[koriwhat]

Was it climate change back 17 years ago when I left SA(110+ degrees) for a trip to LA(75-80 degrees)? :lmao

Dude people were acting like they were melting out there in LA back then. That shit felt great and it was hilarious seeing the locals bitch and moan over nothing just like they bitch and moan about "climate change" today.

[DarrinS]

Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 19 days and counting in 2023 as of August 17th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011



22 Jul 24 – Aug 14, 1907
21 Jul 24 – Aug 13, 1962
21 Aug 9–29, 1905
19 Aug 7–25, 1911
18 Aug 8–25, 1899
15 Jul 30 – Aug 13, 2023
15 Jul 8–22, 2023

[Blake]

22 Jul 24 – Aug 14, 1907
21 Jul 24 – Aug 13, 1962
21 Aug 9–29, 1905
19 Aug 7–25, 1911
18 Aug 8–25, 1899
15 Jul 30 – Aug 13, 2023
15 Jul 8–22, 2023

:lol Darrin

[DarrinS]

All the old records go away with NOAA temperature "adjustments"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All the old records go away with NOAA temperature "adjustments"

We had this discussion on normalization which is common practice when merging databases too. You like to restate initial premise from arguments you have lost several times already. It is why I call you disingenuous.

[baseline bum]

22 Jul 24 – Aug 14, 1907
21 Jul 24 – Aug 13, 1962
21 Aug 9–29, 1905
19 Aug 7–25, 1911
18 Aug 8–25, 1899
15 Jul 30 – Aug 13, 2023
15 Jul 8–22, 2023

Nope


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfJBPumaKqA

[baseline bum]

We had this discussion on normalization which is common practice when merging databases too. You like to restate initial premise from arguments you have lost several times already. It is why I call you disingenuous.

This is the guy who used to post about how the globe was cooling by always starting his trendlines at the (for the time) wildly hot year of 1998. Karrin has been nothing but bad faith argument for as long as spurstalk has had a political board.

[DarrinS]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

[pgardn]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

So what was the average temperature that summer D?

We will also get some new record lows in places.
But they will be far outweighed by the record highs dumb shit.
Variation. Try to understand. We are getting more variation with the average global temperature going up at an alarming rate and correlated with rise in CO2
You dont understand basic patterns through time.

[Blake]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

There's the proof then. No global warming, libtards.

[benefactor]

Talking 109 in East Texas today. Fuck.

[Spurs Homer]

Was it climate change back 17 years ago when I left SA(110+ degrees) for a trip to LA(75-80 degrees)? :lmao

Dude people were acting like they were melting out there in LA back then. That shit felt great and it was hilarious seeing the locals bitch and moan over nothing just like they bitch and moan about "climate change" today.

they weren't bitching blah blah

they live in 72 degrees , sunny, with a cool ocean breeze 363 days every year -
of course 85-90 was horrible-

shit after i had been living in la for 12-15 years - even I caught myself saying, "man- 72 degrees december 24th - shit dont feel like christmas - I misss the seasons...oh wait shit - wtf am i saying?"

[Extra Stout]

It’s sort of astonishing, the amount of denial one is willing to exhibit in order to hold onto one’s ideology. I suppose in the 21st century, with its atomization, isolation and alienation, identity and belonging are wrapped up in ideology now.

I’ve lived through the change in climate. It’s hotter than it was when I was a young adult. Back then, it could get really hot, even 105+ hot, but that would last maybe for a few days. When there was a long-lasting high-pressure system, “long-lasting” meant a couple of weeks, not the entire summer, and the heat from the ridge meant it was 98 outside with maybe the aforementioned peak of 105 for a few days.

Even the cold snaps are warmer. Their impacts are greater in Texas because corruption and malfeasance are greater, but 10 is greater than 0.

I’ve gone back and checked the data to ensure I remembered it right. I did.

Since everyone else in the state I know has had the same experience I had of having the climate warm noticeably over a period of a few decades, that means they’re just denying their own experiences in order to maintain that grasp on their belief system. The more reality intervenes, whether on climate or anything else, the more they give up their grasp on reality in order to protect their own egos. The more outlandish the conspiracy theories become. The more they embrace tyranny. The more they embrace violence. Anything to beat back that inevitable loss of self.

I’d probably still be in the evangelical cult had they not kicked me out for marrying a nonwhite.

[clambake]

It’s sort of astonishing, the amount of denial one is willing to exhibit in order to hold onto one’s ideology. I suppose in the 21st century, with its atomization, isolation and alienation, identity and belonging are wrapped up in ideology now.

I’ve lived through the change in climate. It’s hotter than it was when I was a young adult. Back then, it could get really hot, even 105+ hot, but that would last maybe for a few days. When there was a long-lasting high-pressure system, “long-lasting” meant a couple of weeks, not the entire summer, and the heat from the ridge meant it was 98 outside with maybe the aforementioned peak of 105 for a few days.

Even the cold snaps are warmer. Their impacts are greater in Texas because corruption and malfeasance are greater, but 10 is greater than 0.

I’ve gone back and checked the data to ensure I remembered it right. I did.

Since everyone else in the state I know has had the same experience I had of having the climate warm noticeably over a period of a few decades, that means they’re just denying their own experiences in order to maintain that grasp on their belief system. The more reality intervenes, whether on climate or anything else, the more they give up their grasp on reality in order to protect their own egos. The more outlandish the conspiracy theories become. The more they embrace tyranny. The more they embrace violence. Anything to beat back that inevitable loss of self.

I’d probably still be in the evangelical cult had they not kicked me out for marrying a nonwhite.
Unfortunately, it’s the very best they have to offer. Delusion is their only skill.

[Winehole23]

Unfortunately, it’s the very best they have to offer. Delusion is their only skill.Deceit and delusion are strong political forces capable of stirring violent passions. The GOP relies more and more on demagoguery because its main demographic is shrinking. Political violence and contempt for electoral democracy are becoming more and more normal on the right.

[Extra Stout]

It’s interesting how this denial of reality manifests itself in opposition to energy innovation. Like, shouldn’t it kind of cool that we’ve gotten to the point where electric cars can go 300 miles of a charge and recharge 60% in 15-20 minutes? They’re not yet as convenient as cars with internal-combustion engines for road trips, but remembering how crude EV’s were even 25 years ago, isn’t the pace of progress obvious? Isn’t the eventual obsolescence of the internal-combustion engine obvious? EV’s with 600-mile range that recharge in the time it takes to empty one’s bladder and buy a drink are inevitable. What is the attachment to vehicles that we fill up with flammable liquids every week, other than the evidence that society is following those other people’s value system? That the other people might have been right?

You have people in East Texas trying to do everything they can to stop solar farms on other people’s property. Why, because they oppose cutting down trees? Gee, they don’t seem to have a problem with doing that for a pig farm! No, it’s that solar farms are evidence that society is following those other people’s value system, that the world is moving away from them.

Anything to stop that loss of dominance. Anything to protect the identity and ego.

[clambake]

They are the living version of fossil fuel.

[Extra Stout]

Deceit and delusion are strong political forces capable of stirring violent passions. The GOP relies more and more on demagoguery because its main demographic is shrinking. Political violence and contempt for electoral democracy are becoming more and more normal on the right.
Ultimately, it ends in nihilism. Better to burn the whole thing and rule over the rubble than to relinquish dominance.

[Extra Stout]

Power is all that matters. Not doing anything constructive with the power, not acting in one’s own interest, much less anybody else’s, just power. Really, not even having power. Just feeling powerful. Just having that illusion of control.

Maslow’s hierarchy of need. Acceptance and belonging (to the tribe) comes before self-esteem. The tribe must be powerful. Denigrate the self in order to elevate the status of the tribe. If the tribe’s belief system falls apart, where else is there to go?

[Spurminator]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

While this is another example of your stubborn tendency to rely on small samples instead of trends to distract yourself from realities that contradict your team loyalty, it happens to be a great example of how man impacts warming, so thanks for bringing this up.


Several factors led to the deadly heat of July 1936:

A series of droughts affected the U.S. during the early 1930s. The lack of rain parched the earth and killed vegetation, especially across the Plains states.
Poor land management (farming techniques) across the Plains furthered the impact of the drought, with lush wheat fields becoming barren waste lands.
Without the vegetation and soil moisture, the Plains acted as a furnace. The climate of that region took on desert qualities, accentuating its capacity to produce heat.
A strong ridge of high pressure set up over the west coast and funneled the heat northward across the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes.


https://www.weather.gov/arx/heat_jul36

[RandomGuy]

It’s interesting how this denial of reality manifests itself in opposition to energy innovation. Like, shouldn’t it kind of cool that we’ve gotten to the point where electric cars can go 300 miles of a charge and recharge 60% in 15-20 minutes? They’re not yet as convenient as cars with internal-combustion engines for road trips, but remembering how crude EV’s were even 25 years ago, isn’t the pace of progress obvious? Isn’t the eventual obsolescence of the internal-combustion engine obvious? EV’s with 600-mile range that recharge in the time it takes to empty one’s bladder and buy a drink are inevitable. What is the attachment to vehicles that we fill up with flammable liquids every week, other than the evidence that society is following those other people’s value system? That the other people might have been right?

You have people in East Texas trying to do everything they can to stop solar farms on other people’s property. Why, because they oppose cutting down trees? Gee, they don’t seem to have a problem with doing that for a pig farm! No, it’s that solar farms are evidence that society is following those other people’s value system, that the world is moving away from them.

Anything to stop that loss of dominance. Anything to protect the identity and ego.

Electric cars are also VASTLY less complicated these days. The enshittification of cars means that you have to have a fucking computer expert to diagnose vehicles these days.

You may have noticed the $100+ diagnostic charge for anytime you bring a car into a mechanic.

Electric vehicles have WAY fewer moving parts. No oil changes, etc.

At some point, with a good chunk of land, you could have enough solar panels and storage to charge your own vehicle and never even need an energy company, unless you are away from home.

As to the culture/tribeness, that will be made worse by the fact that gasoline vehicles will have more than one multi-trillion dollar industry paying for propaganda and astro-turf movements.

[RandomGuy]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

You forgot to add that temperature was also reached in 1994.

As usual, your post falls into the "stupid" or "dishonest" bucket.


https://image3.slideserve.com/5633085/fallacy-red-herring-l.jpg


Do you not understand this is irrelevant? (are you stupid)

Or do you not care about the truth in global warming caused by humans? (are you dishonest)

[Dick Jones]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.
“Drunkest I’ve ever been was 20 years ago, so that means my liver is fine now”
-Also Darrin, after his 7th Bud Light Eight Elite.

[baseline bum]

Not only are we super likely to break the record for 100 degree days, looks like 70+ days of 100+ is very much within reach as weather.com's forecast has us at 65 days by September 1st.

https://i.ibb.co/MNCtZpj/65-days.png

[SnakeBoy]

A Mercedes-Benz EQE Sedan caught fire and burned to a crisp inside a Florida homeowner's garage last week, severely damaging the building.

The 2023 Mercedes-Benz EQE 350+ Sedan was in the garage when it caught fire on July 19. According to Jennifer Ruotolo, the EV was a loaner from Mercedes-Benz while her own car was getting serviced. She told News4Jax that the luxury electric sedan wasn't even charging when it burst into flames she doesn't own a home charging unit.

"It was parked in the garage, about 22 hours and then it caught fire. I was at work. About 8:30 and my husband heard a hiss and a pop, and he went into the garage full of smoke. It engulfed in flames and exploded," the Nocatee, Florida resident said.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/362224187_693919372772297_8929644468518489684_n.jp g?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=cOdURRfvFX4AX-lg53T&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AfD3lP-hpk_KsHtky9iHuhpWEo0OSNdkXVUpZ0PmOaMZ6g&oe=64E4DC69

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/Garage%20on%20Fire%20-%20Jax.JPG

https://insideevs.com/news/678343/mercedes-eqe-loaner-car-burns-down-inside-florida-homeowner-garage/

[Extra Stout]

Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 53 days and counting in 2023 as of August 18th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days in 1962
2. 20 days and counting in 2023 as of August 18th (July/August)
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Blake]

Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.

Darrin and Snakes part of the "yeah but there's that one time" krew

[koriwhat]

they weren't bitching blah blah

they live in 72 degrees , sunny, with a cool ocean breeze 363 days every year -
of course 85-90 was horrible-

shit after i had been living in la for 12-15 years - even I caught myself saying, "man- 72 degrees december 24th - shit dont feel like christmas - I misss the seasons...oh wait shit - wtf am i saying?"

it wasn't 85-90 but I get what you're saying.

[koriwhat]

Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.

Show us the articles and not just a blanket statement that is common sense but requires certain specific situations to come true.

[pgardn]

And oil refineries cant produce as much gasoline in the excessive heat.
Part of the equation of gas prices.

Its kind of ironic. Fossil fuel feedback loop regulates itself.

But drill baby drill. And forget about the processing of the oil into usable hydrocarbons. Just dont mention it.
Today's Trump conservatives deep thinking strikes again.

[Blake]

Show us the articles and not just a blanket statement that is common sense but requires certain specific situations to come true.

As soon as someone shows you you'll run away. You're worthless here except for cheap lols

[DMX7]

Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.

Google tells me this: The hottest temperature ever in Texas was 120 degrees, recorded in Seymour in August 1936 AND Monahans in June 1994.

Not that either date really tells us much about climate change.

[Big Empty]

World population was 4.5 billion in the early 80s. Now its over 7 billion. Less trees, more cars ect Humans are the AIDs virus to the earth. Thats why the world his hotter and it isnt going to stop.

[koriwhat]

And oil refineries cant produce as much gasoline in the excessive heat.
Part of the equation of gas prices.

Its kind of ironic. Fossil fuel feedback loop regulates itself.

But drill baby drill. And forget about the processing of the oil into usable hydrocarbons. Just dont mention it.
Today's Trump conservatives deep thinking strikes again.

Live a week without petroleum of any sort and prove your convictions. No more bottles, no more car, no more clothes, no more everymotherfuckingthing! Do it and lead the way bro instead of constantly crying over nothing whatsoever.

Today's dumbfuck regressives deep thinking strikes again.

[pgardn]

Its the sun!

Mercury receives about 4X as much sunlight compared to Venus because Mercury is about 2X closer. (The inverse square law)
Mercury ranges in temp at the surface from 800F daytime to -100 F at night. Venus is a fairly CONSTANT 900 F.
And again Venus is TWICE as far away and gets 1/4 the sunlight compared to Mercury.

Have a conservative explain this to you. There is one very substantial difference. And it rips to the heart of science illiteracy among conservatives.
I tried to explain this to a Darrin type tat-calfed, grandmother hating, Trumpster relative and.... nothing...

"So its not the sun... :( I will 'think' of something else later"

Meaning... Let me check my list of denier sites.

[baseline bum]

We have officially tied the alltime record for most consecutive days of 100+ today

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 54 days and counting in 2023 as of August 19th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 21 days and counting in 2023 as of August 19th (July/August)
1. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[koriwhat]

I tried to explain this to a Darrin type tat-calfed, grandmother hating, Trumpster relative and.... nothing...

Shut the fuck up already puto

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 55 days and counting in 2023 as of August 20th
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 22 days and counting in 2023 as of August 20th (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 56 days and counting in 2023 as of August 21st
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days and counting in 2023 as of August 21st (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Thread]

It broke here a fortnight ago and it ain't been back since. I believe we're safe now and by the end of September we're looking at 8-MONTHS-8 of glorious weather.

I'm as giddy as a school girl.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It broke here a fortnight ago and it ain't been back since. I believe we're safe now and by the end of September we're looking at 8-MONTHS-8 of glorious weather.

I'm as giddy as a school girl.
Huh? Sun City and really all of Maricopa County are forecast to be in the 110s all next week.





1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days in 2022
3. 57 days in 2011
4. 56 days and counting in 2023 as of August 21st
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days and counting in 2023 as of August 21st (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Technically, it's not 100 yet, but yeah might as well call it since it's upper 90s and just before noon.

Tomorrow's going to be a real cold one. Temperature forecast is a high of eighty-nine degrees. Time to get out that leather coat. Skip the umbrella; umbrellas are for ladies and faggots.

[Thread]

Huh? Sun City and really all of Maricopa County are forecast to be in the 110s all next week.







Technically, it's not 100 yet, but yeah might as well call it since it's upper 90s and just before noon.

Tomorrow's going to be a real cold one. Temperature forecast is a high of eighty-nine degrees. Time to get out that leather coat. Skip the umbrella; umbrellas are for ladies and faggots.

I ain't showin' that on my Weather Channel App. I'm showin' 1 day at 110 high thru 9/4. Even 110 ain't 115+.

[baseline bum]

Huh? Sun City and really all of Maricopa County are forecast to be in the 110s all next week.







Technically, it's not 100 yet, but yeah might as well call it since it's upper 90s and just before noon.

Tomorrow's going to be a real cold one. Temperature forecast is a high of eighty-nine degrees. Time to get out that leather coat. Skip the umbrella; umbrellas are for ladies and faggots.

NOAA's forecasting 96 for tomorrow. This death ridge is so strong we need a tropical storm to get us just to historical average for one whole day and then we're right back into the 100s.

https://i.ibb.co/5hNVsBT/zzz.png

[Extra Stout]

I doubt every summer will be like this, but the trend is clear. 1980 was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime summer. Then 2011 happened. OK, 31 years is still kind of a long time. Now 2023 has happened, just 12 years later. How soon until there’s a summer even hotter? Seven or eight years? Sooner? How long until every summer is like this? 2050 maybe? It’s not summer. It’s heat season. You spend weeks of the year having to organize errands to be done by 11:00. You wait until 6:30 or 7:00 for even the pool to be tolerable.

We should be telling our kids to get the fuck out of Texas. It’s over. We can’t even hope for a dry heat. In Texas, if it’s dry, that means there’s been two months of drought and all the trees are ready to burn. That will be lovely when it’s 110 outside and full of fire and smoke. Literal hell!

[baseline bum]

I doubt every summer will be like this, but the trend is clear. 1980 was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime summer. Then 2011 happened. OK, 31 years is still kind of a long time. Now 2023 has happened, just 12 years later. How soon until there’s a summer even hotter? Seven or eight years? Sooner? How long until every summer is like this? 2050 maybe? It’s not summer. It’s heat season. You spend weeks of the year having to organize errands to be done by 11:00. You wait until 6:30 or 7:00 for even the pool to be tolerable.

We should be telling our kids to get the fuck out of Texas. It’s over. We can’t even hope for a dry heat. In Texas, if it’s dry, that means there’s been two months of drought and all the trees are ready to burn. That will be lovely when it’s 110 outside and full of fire and smoke. Literal hell!

2022 was hotter than 2011 here

[Thread]

I doubt every summer will be like this, but the trend is clear. 1980 was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime summer. Then 2011 happened. OK, 31 years is still kind of a long time. Now 2023 has happened, just 12 years later. How soon until there’s a summer even hotter? Seven or eight years? Sooner? How long until every summer is like this? 2050 maybe? It’s not summer. It’s heat season. You spend weeks of the year having to organize errands to be done by 11:00. You wait until 6:30 or 7:00 for even the pool to be tolerable.

We should be telling our kids to get the fuck out of Texas. It’s over. We can’t even hope for a dry heat. In Texas, if it’s dry, that means there’s been two months of drought and all the trees are ready to burn. That will be lovely when it’s 110 outside and full of fire and smoke. Literal hell!

You're lookin' to turn Texas, Stout. Uh, uh.

[baseline bum]

I doubt every summer will be like this, but the trend is clear. 1980 was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime summer. Then 2011 happened. OK, 31 years is still kind of a long time. Now 2023 has happened, just 12 years later. How soon until there’s a summer even hotter? Seven or eight years? Sooner? How long until every summer is like this? 2050 maybe? It’s not summer. It’s heat season. You spend weeks of the year having to organize errands to be done by 11:00. You wait until 6:30 or 7:00 for even the pool to be tolerable.

We should be telling our kids to get the fuck out of Texas. It’s over. We can’t even hope for a dry heat. In Texas, if it’s dry, that means there’s been two months of drought and all the trees are ready to burn. That will be lovely when it’s 110 outside and full of fire and smoke. Literal hell!

I asked this question last year when we had the hottest summer ever recorded here. And the answer was... one year.

[baseline bum]

Technically, it's not 100 yet, but yeah might as well call it since it's upper 90s and just before noon.


Not even 2:00PM and it's fucking 103 already at the airport :pctoss

[Millennial_Messiah]

I asked this question last year when we had the hottest summer ever recorded here. And the answer was... one year.

Fortunately, the analog years for 2024 are ::


-1998
-2002
-2007
-2010
-2016


Next year, it's going to be --- that all the rain and flooding is caused by all that anthropogenic global warming. Ignoring the fact that we'll already be doing July 4th fireworks & haven't even come close to sniffing the century mark yet.

[baseline bum]

Fortunately, the analog years for 2024 are ::


-1998
-2002
-2007
-2010
-2016


Next year, it's going to be --- that all the rain and flooding is caused by all that anthropogenic global warming. Ignoring the fact that we'll already be doing July 4th fireworks & haven't even come close to sniffing the century mark yet.

No fucking way

[baseline bum]

Time to bump this shit since we're at 95 before noon

1. 59 days in 2009
2. 58 days and counting in 2023 as of August 25th
2. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Winehole23]

it's roughly as bad in some places in South America -- where it is winter right now.

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[Winehole23]

second day in a row ERCOT has asked Texans to conserve energy

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[Extra Stout]

it's roughly as bad in some places in South America -- where it is winter right now.

1695062214875447808
With these sorts of impacts at 1.2C, 2C might be enough to disrupt civilization.

[Winehole23]

second day in a row ERCOT has asked Texans to conserve energy

1695121289202057429and the fourth time in eight days

[Winehole23]

With these sorts of impacts at 1.2C, 2C might be enough to disrupt civilization.IIRC, NASA has already suggested 2C as a tipping point beyond which effects of climate change will be cascading and unpredictable.

[baseline bum]

If we can get permanent La Nina we can finally win B2B then 3peat

Global warming so strong we're tying the record today in an El Nino year.

[baseline bum]

1. 59 days and counting in 2023 as of August 26th
1. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Winehole23]

Another ERCOT conservation call from 3-9pm.

[baseline bum]

Another ERCOT conservation call from 3-9pm.

I was going to say if we have blackouts it would be tomorrow from the compressional heat ahead of the cold front coming Monday, but forgot it's going to be moving really slowly and Dallas is getting that compressional heat right now when they're at 108 (the front comes in and drops the high to 99 tomorrow for them). Still think tomorrow might be worse though with Austin, San Antonio, and Houston all getting that heat ahead of the cold front, but today could def be ugly too.

[Winehole23]

Automated demand side solutions would be cheaper and easier than building new power plants, and would render voluntary conservation unnecessary, but they would cut into energy company profits. Can't have that.

[baseline bum]

Current forecast from TWC gets us to 73 days as of September 9th :vomit:

https://i.ibb.co/smsL8FX/73.png

[MannyIsGod]

With these sorts of impacts at 1.2C, 2C might be enough to disrupt civilization.

I mean there's a reason this is an important mark. People have virtually no clue how bad things will get in the coming decades. Shit is not going to be a walk in the park.

[baseline bum]

I mean there's a reason this is an important mark. People have virtually no clue how bad things will get in the coming decades. Shit is not going to be a walk in the park.

Can you expand a bit? Wonder how long before we have a massive famine here that kills off a lot of Americans and makes COVID look like nothing.

[Blake]

Can you expand a bit? Wonder how long before we have a massive famine here that kills off a lot of Americans and makes COVID look like nothing.

Not just famine but drought and rolling outages

[Extra Stout]

I mean there's a reason this is an important mark. People have virtually no clue how bad things will get in the coming decades. Shit is not going to be a walk in the park.
We will hit 2C probably in the 2050’s. Now, the same mainstream science that predicts the warming
also does not predict billions of dead people, even by 2100. The biggest number I’ve seen is 83 million. I think mainstream science is assuming humans will migrate away from uninhabitable zones and adapt in areas that are merely degraded. The adaptation assumption is probably true. The migration one… we’ll see. I’m not hopeful.

[baseline bum]

We will hit 2C probably in the 2050’s. Now, the same mainstream science that predicts the warming
also does not predict billions of dead people, even by 2100. The biggest number I’ve seen is 83 million. I think mainstream science is assuming humans will migrate away from uninhabitable zones and adapt in areas that are merely degraded. The adaptation assumption is probably true. The migration one… we’ll see. I’m not hopeful.

Housing in desirable areas costs big money, that's why people are instead moving to Arizona, Texas, Florida, etc. You think the housing market is fucked right now wait until cities like Phoenix are gutted due to poor availability of water. Having lived on the southside of Houston years ago and seen what the flooding was like then due to the land sinking after digging the shipping channel can't imagine what that whole side of town will look like with higher seas and further sinking of the land in 50-70 years. Gotta think it'll lose a lot of residents too. As will Miami, Tampa, the remaining shell of New Orleans, etc.

[Extra Stout]

Housing in desirable areas costs big money, that's why people are instead moving to Arizona, Texas, Florida, etc. You think the housing market is fucked right now wait until cities like Phoenix are gutted due to poor availability of water. Having lived on the southside of Houston years ago and seen what the flooding was like then due to the land sinking after digging the shipping channel can't imagine what that whole side of town will look like with higher seas and further sinking of the land in 50-70 years. Gotta think it'll lose a lot of residents too. As will Miami, Tampa, the remaining shell of New Orleans, etc.
I’m not talking about migration within the United States. I’m talking about a world where a couple billion people in Africa and Asia have to leave their countries because it gets to 130 in the summer and there is no water or hope of growing crops, but no livable countries are going to want to take them in.

[baseline bum]

https://i.ibb.co/gdSpvmq/records.png

[Winehole23]

Another ERCOT conservation alert from 4-9pm today. These alerts used to be rare, we've had 6-7 in past two weeks.

[baseline bum]

1. 60 days and counting in 2023 as of August 27th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

Any bets on where we end up this year? I'm gonna go with 72 days of 100+ for San Antonio in 2023.

[MannyIsGod]

Can you expand a bit? Wonder how long before we have a massive famine here that kills off a lot of Americans and makes COVID look like nothing.

Most people don't understand the economic and human costs associated with the changes that are coming due in part because they don't understand the gravity of the changes. For instance, can you imagine what not having pine forests in the four corners states would mean? Yet that's one of the projections I've seen by 2100 due to heat mortality, bark beetle outbreaks, fire, or a combination of those issues. Right now the reservoirs out west are in good shape after a big winter, but that's unlikely to be the case for much longer. Right before this we were on the verge of some pretty large catastrophes for people who use water from the Colorado river basin which is an insane number of people. What do you think happens if Vegas, LA, and other cities out there don't have access to enough water? Have you see how expensive the flood control projects along the TX gulf coast are? Are public utilities going to be able to operate the same way with a summer of insane rates every afternoon for the foreseeable future? What does heat wave mortality look like when we have major grid problems? What about when we see a major hurricane come through and knock out power for months at a time and then we see these increasingly normal temps after?

What about when ocean ecosystems just crumble? This summer is likely to kill off an insane amount of coral reefs in the gulf. Air temps across the globe have been exceptional, but that is nothing compared to the implications of our water temps. Those reefs just aren't for snorkeling, they're important parts of the oceanic food chains and without them we get even closer to losing important food sources. I just got back from a work trip to Alaska, and the situation with the Salmon up there is dire. The big thing is that these systems are so complex that there's no way scientists have a full grasp on what is going to happen and how its going to play out. We can analyze the physical systems and how they will respond, so we know when the ice will melt (generally although we've been too conservative in general), how hot it will get, and we have an idea of what it means to the dynamics of the atmosphere but its much harder to understand what that means for complex interwoven biological systems. What we do know is that when big changes like this happen suddenly, biological systems can't adapt fast enough and virtually crumble so I wouldn't expect anything else.

We can adapt, but not without spending a lot of money and killing a lot of people. COVID was a really good indicator at how we'll respond to climate change when large numbers of people start dying. We'll just normalize those deaths and act like its NBD. So humanity will almost certainly survive, but its going to come at a huge cost and thats only to the benefit of the few people who continue to profit off oil and gas.

[MannyIsGod]

We will hit 2C probably in the 2050’s. Now, the same mainstream science that predicts the warming
also does not predict billions of dead people, even by 2100. The biggest number I’ve seen is 83 million. I think mainstream science is assuming humans will migrate away from uninhabitable zones and adapt in areas that are merely degraded. The adaptation assumption is probably true. The migration one… we’ll see. I’m not hopeful.

Predicting the temps is easy because its the first domino. Its the physical response to a relatively physical system. (How taht response varies geographically is a bit more complex, but even that is relatively simple) But how biological systems, economic, and political systems respond to that will ultimately have a lot of impact on how many people die. Scientists can't model how many wars are a result of climate change driven droughts (whats up Syria) or which countries will take the necessary steps to protect people from extreme heat (you want to bet that we will after COVID?) so I wouldn't put too much weight on any projections of how many people will die from AGW one way or another. I definitely think we're about to see the start of climate migration, but even in places that will remain better (IE Upper midwest vs the southwest) you're going to see elevated mortality from climate change affected events. We've already seen this in the Pacific NW in the recent heat waves, for instance.

So yeah, I don't know how many people will die (but 83 million by 2100 strikes me as a big time underestimation, frankly) but I do know that the best case where we save a lot of people from dying will come at huge economic costs and I don't particularly view that scenario as anything near likely.

[baseline bum]

Ugh fucking 105 at 2PM :pctoss

[baseline bum]

So yeah, I don't know how many people will die (but 83 million by 2100 strikes me as a big time underestimation, frankly) but I do know that the best case where we save a lot of people from dying will come at huge economic costs and I don't particularly view that scenario as anything near likely.

This country doesn't even give a shit about saving people's lives at negative economic costs, eg keeping for profit healthcare vs single payer when single payer would be cheaper.

[baseline bum]

San Antonio is 105 at 2PM
Houston is 106 at 2PM
Austin is 106 at 2PM
Waco is 104 at 2PM

How the fuck is the grid going to hold up today?

[Extra Stout]

San Antonio is 105 at 2PM
Houston is 106 at 2PM
Austin is 106 at 2PM
Waco is 104 at 2PM

How the fuck is the grid going to hold up today?
The front is moving through. Already past Dallas.

[MannyIsGod]

San Antonio is 105 at 2PM
Houston is 106 at 2PM
Austin is 106 at 2PM
Waco is 104 at 2PM

How the fuck is the grid going to hold up today?

Wind is overpeforming due to the front and while temps to the south of the front are higher due to compressional heating its starting to drop in north Texas. Today probably has lower odds of being an issue than the previous days.

[baseline bum]

Demand forecast overshot at 8PM. And I gotta think that demand forecast is low when the temperatures are looking to be hotter than forecast today if we're hitting predicted highs in population centers in south and central Texas at only 2-3PM.

https://i.ibb.co/jDzRrHK/ercot.png

[baseline bum]

Wind is overpeforming due to the front and while temps to the south of the front are higher due to compressional heating its starting to drop in north Texas. Today probably has lower odds of being an issue than the previous days.

Hope so. Yesterday DFW was the only population center on the grid that was blazing hot at 7-8PM whereas today it's Houston, SA, and Austin, though doesn't look like that compressional heating ahead of the front will hit Corpus, Laredo, Brownsville, etc today.

[Extra Stout]

Demand forecast overshot at 8PM. And I gotta think that demand forecast is low when the temperatures are looking to be hotter than forecast today if we're hitting predicted highs in population centers in south and central Texas at only 2-3PM.

https://i.ibb.co/jDzRrHK/ercot.png
The graphs showed overshoot on several previous days too, but they never even got to emergency phase 1.

I turn the thermostat up from 77 to 80 at 2 PM, turn on the fans, and hope for the best until 9 PM. That knocks my consumption during those hours down by half. Between businesses implementing conservation measures, and maybe 5% of customers actually heeding the conservation pleas, they’re flattening the curve enough to get through so far.

[baseline bum]

The front is moving through. Already past Dallas.


Wind is overpeforming due to the front and while temps to the south of the front are higher due to compressional heating its starting to drop in north Texas. Today probably has lower odds of being an issue than the previous days.

Front ended up coming a lot earlier than I was expecting from the forecasts I saw making it sound like it would stall to the north and not pass Austin nor reach us until tomorrow. But with Austin at 90 now and the front having just crossed 410 hopefully we'll be in the 90s within the next 45 minutes or so. Houston though fuck, still showing 106 at Bush Intercontinental on Weather Underground.

[baseline bum]

JFC not even a cold front can get us below 100. 100 at the airport at 2PM

1. 61 days and counting in 2023 as of August 28th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Winehole23]

wells and springs running dry this summer.


In several cases, widespread irrigation of grass caused water system problems as supply grew short. For example: some residents of Bee Cave woke up to low or no water pressure in late June.

“The storage tanks were drained overnight by Over-irrigation of lawns,” Bee Cave mayor Kara King wrote on Facebook.

The same thing happened in Dripping Springs, where some residents received a boil water notification on July 20. Rick Broun, general manager for the local water supply company, told the Dripping Springs Century News (https://www.drippingspringsnews.com/breaking-news-news/water-restrictions-boil-water-notice-issued-dripping-springs) that the loss in system pressure resulted from “an enormous amount of irrigation use last night.”https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-aquifers-springs-groundwater-drought/

[Winehole23]

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[Extra Stout]

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With this near-daily crunch around 8 PM as solar is going offline, anyone who can get a battery station up and running should be set to make a killing.

[Winehole23]

As part of demand response, ERCOT will pay big energy users like manufacturers or (more recently) bitcoin miners to reduce the power they use. That frees up more electrons for others and keeps supply and demand balanced on the grid.

Doug Lewin, an energy consultant who writes the Texas Energy and Power Newsletter, says other grid operators have successful programs that pay residential ratepayers to conserve as well.

“Residential customers pay higher rates than big customers do outside of even those [demand response] opportunities. So it is inequitable,” he said. “There is every reason from a reliability and an affordability and fairness perspective to give those opportunities to residential consumers.”

In some parts of the state, residential consumers can participate in demand-response programs through their local utility. In Austin, for example, consumers can receive credit toward their electric bills (https://savings.austinenergy.com/residential/offerings/cooling-and-heating/pp-thermostat) for using "smart thermostats" that lower their AC in response to high demand.
https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2023-08-28/ercot-pays-big-companies-to-conserve-power-prompting-some-consumers-to-ask-why-not-me

[Winehole23]

In Texas, the computers kept running until just after midnight. Then the state’s power grid operator ordered them shut off, under an agreement that allowed it to do so if the system was about to fail. In return, it began paying the Bitcoin company, Bitdeer, an average of $175,000 an hour to keep the computers offline. Over the next four days, Bitdeer would make more than $18 million for not operating, from fees ultimately paid by Texans who had endured the storm.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/09/business/bitcoin-mining-electricity-pollution.html

[leemajors]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/09/business/bitcoin-mining-electricity-pollution.html

delightful

[Winehole23]

Springtime was abnormally hot. That's when thermal plants usually shutter for maintenance. Then we had two months of extreme heat. So maybe there's been more wear and tear this year.

It does seem a bit odd that coal and gas are off 60% in one day.

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[Extra Stout]

There is a financial incentive to play a game of chicken with supply.

[baseline bum]

Springtime was abnormally hot. That's when thermal plants usually shutter for maintenance. Then we had two months of extreme heat. So maybe there's been more wear and tear this year.

It does seem a bit odd that coal and gas are off 60% in one day.

1696663424162254856

I don't think spring was abnormally hot this year (last year it was). This is almost certainly market manipulation, not wear and tear from spring.

[ChumpDumper]

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"unexpectedly"

This is what the system is designed to do. It's Enron with a cowboy hat.

[baseline bum]

"unexpectedly"

This is what the system is designed to do. It's Enron with a cowboy hat.

The system as designed by Governor Abbott and Governor Perry since they personally appointed every single member on the Texas Public Utility Commission that regulates our grid.

[baseline bum]

Also, we got to 100 today
https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KSAT.html

1. 62 days and counting in 2023 as of August 29th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[benefactor]

lol shithole state

[DarrinS]

Low 90s two days in a row at my house. Lower than the airport, for whatever reason. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Low 90s two days in a row at my house. Lower than the airport, for whatever reason. :lol

Therefore, no climate change.

[GAustex]

A lovely evening for a walk

[DarrinS]

Therefore, no climate change.

No one was talking shit when I ran my generator during the generational freeze.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No one was talking shit when I ran my generator during the generational freeze.

It got cold so fossil fuels get a pass, amirite?

[benefactor]

No one was talking shit when I ran my generator during the generational freeze.
Name how many apartment complexes provide their tenants with generators. We will all wait.

[benefactor]

A lovely evening for a walk
It is. Totally erased 62 days of cooking in the 100 plus degree heat.

[monosylab1k]

Low 90s two days in a row at my house. Lower than the airport, for whatever reason. :lol

Well if Darrin is okay, then who cares about everyone else! Crisis averted!

[monosylab1k]

Name how many apartment complexes provide their tenants with generators. We will all wait.

I think you forgot the part where the world is a giant video game, and Darrin is the main character, so he’s the only one who matters.

[ChumpDumper]

No one was talking shit when I ran my generator during the generational freeze.

Of course we were talking about climate change then, Darrin. You were too busy drinking.

[Winehole23]

It was a white knuckle night in the ERCOT control room. On Thursday, August 17th, reserves on the ERCOT grid dropped below 3,000 megawatts — less than 4% of the total system demand at that point — and got close to the 2,300 megawatts that would require ERCOT to declare emergency conditions.


The same night, industrial-size batteries put 1,800 megawatts of power — more than double the previous record (https://twitter.com/joshdr83/status/1692331213367746990) — onto the grid when reserves reached their lowest point. Without batteries, ERCOT probably would’ve declared an emergency that night. We were very close to the edge.


The same thing happened four times over the next week or so: storage put between 1,100 and 1,325 megawatts of power onto the grid (https://www.gridstatus.io/records/ercot?record=Maximum%20Power%20Storage) between 7:15 - 8:30 p.m., right as reserves reached their nadir on August 20 (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1693445969931649322?s=20), 23, 24 (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1695097642156531898?s=20), 25 (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1695263234507300962?s=20), and 29 — all days when ERCOT issued conservation calls.


These hot summer nights show the vital role that storage should play on the grid, filling the gaps in those moments when demand threatens to overtake supply. The amount of storage on the grid has mushroomed in recent years — and much, much more is on the way (https://twitter.com/douglewinenergy/status/1695097640537448788?s=20).


So is ERCOT opposing its expansion in a key ancillary service market?
https://www.douglewin.com/p/is-ercot-attempting-to-eighty-six

[GAustex]

I noticed how nice it was this early morning

[Extra Stout]

https://www.douglewin.com/p/is-ercot-attempting-to-eighty-six
Battery storage solves the on-demand issue with solar and wind. Together with small modular nuclear reactors to carry the base load (a technology ready for mass deployment by 2030), the path to obsolescence for natural gas is clear. The people who make money off fossil fuels aren’t going to go down without a fight, and if three billion people have to die to protect their short-term profits, so be it.

[Thread]

Battery storage solves the on-demand issue with solar and wind. Together with small modular nuclear reactors to carry the base load (a technology ready for mass deployment by 2030), the path to obsolescence for natural gas is clear. The people who make money off fossil fuels aren’t going to go down without a fight, and if three billion people have to die to protect their short-term profits, so be it.

Amen.

[Thread]

I noticed how nice it was this early morning

Me too. A/C was at 69 degrees and I had a ceiling fan above me at 3/4 strength and a regular fan 6 feet from me at the medium setting and 4 quilts over me.

I was in heaven...till her..."Dale, get up now, we have to go to Wal-Mart before the heat comes in. Dale, get up..."

[baseline bum]

The march to 70 continues

1. 63 days and counting in 2023 as of August 30th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[baseline bum]

ERCOT forecast demand again above capacity, starting at 7:55

[Extra Stout]

The generation companies have figured out the arbitrage game with power supply. Have “outages,” let supply get tight, watch the spot price shoot up to $6000/MWh, and make a killing from peaking plants and batteries.

[baseline bum]

The generation companies have figured out the arbitrage game with power supply. Have “outages,” let supply get tight, watch the spot price shoot up to $6000/MWh, and make a killing from peaking plants and batteries.

Got almost an hour and a half around $5000 per MWhr today

[baseline bum]

Also if we get a high of 62 or higher tomorrow August 2023 breaks the record for highest average temperature for a month ever recorded in San Antonio.

[DarrinS]

Another mild one here. Seasons still change

[Winehole23]

Not holding my breath, but still curious. Continued silence would be fairly damning.




On Aug. 29, thermal outages were beyond what ERCOT defines as “extreme,” at 4+ GW above the 30-day average, energy researchers pointed out – about 120% more generation offline than ERCOT defines as typical. So far, ERCOT has not explained why thermal generation dropped so significantly on Tuesday.https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2023-08-30/gas-and-coal-outages-behind-ercots-constant-calls-for-conservation/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not holding my breath, but still curious. Continued silence would be fairly damning.



https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2023-08-30/gas-and-coal-outages-behind-ercots-constant-calls-for-conservation/

I'm usre they will try ore spin. They have no way of knowing because they do not track the data comprehensively. The various plants have been fighting oversight and our leaders are bought.

[baseline bum]

1. 64 days and counting in 2023 as of August 31st
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[ChumpDumper]

Another mild one here. Seasons still change

Another mild what? 99 degrees?:lol

[baseline bum]

Same shit, different day. 70 days of 100+ looks like a stone cold lock.

1. 65 days and counting in 2023 as of September 1st
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Thread]

We broke it again last night with a severe thunderstorm and Santa Anna winds that were incredible. It's been raining lightly ever since and will go thru tomorrow raining as well...The local weatherman:::"Yes, we needed this rain, but it's too late. This is almost bad now instead of good. Now a word from..."

[Winehole23]

Also, reportedly the driest summer in 115 years.

[baseline bum]

We broke it again last night with a severe thunderstorm and Santa Anna winds that were incredible. It's been raining lightly ever since and will go thru tomorrow raining as well...The local weatherman:::"Yes, we needed this rain, but it's too late. This is almost bad now instead of good. Now a word from..."

I thought your ass was in Phoenix.

[Thread]

I thought your ass was in Phoenix.

It is. We had a terrific storm here Thursday night

[baseline bum]

It is. We had a terrific storm here Thursday night

Santa Ana winds in Phoenix? I only ever heard of that shit in Cali.

[Thread]

Santa Ana winds in Phoenix? I only ever heard of that shit in Cali.

No, they come in down here as well.

[Winehole23]

more real world impact of climate change

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/coral-reef

1697438811792244885

[Extra Stout]

more real world impact of climate change

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/coral-reef

1697438811792244885
90-95% of corals will die over the next 30 years. This will reduce fish populations by about a third.

Coral in the long term (centuries to millenia) will survive and recover. New populations are already appearing off the coast of Japan, for example. I wonder if the same thing will happen off the coast of the Carolinas?

[baseline bum]

Topped 100 again today in this never-ending summer

1. 66 days and counting in 2023 as of September 2nd
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Blake]

Topped 100 again today in this never-ending summer

1. 66 days and counting in 2023 as of September 2nd
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

This thread is like watching juiced up Bonds shatter the home run record

[Ef-man]

Topped 100 again today in this never-ending summer

1. 66 days and counting in 2023 as of September 2nd
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

On the plus side, your tan will look great going into the fall.

[baseline bum]

This thread is like watching juiced up Bonds shatter the home run record

But if there was a more juiced up Pujols and a more juiced up ARod waiting in the wings to shatter it again next season or a couple of years from now.

[DarrinS]

Another mid-90s day here. Still a mystery why the airport is consistently hotter.

[baseline bum]

Another mid-90s day here. Still a mystery why the airport is consistently hotter.

Airport is one of the cooler places in the city

[baseline bum]

Fuck 70, we're going for half a month of 100+ over the previous record

https://www.ksat.com/weather/

https://i.ibb.co/bNF8Y25/75.png

[Blake]

Another mid-90s day here. Still a mystery why the airport is consistently hotter.

What are you trying to say here? That your zip code thermometer is cooler than the suspicious airport thermometer?

[ChumpDumper]

Another mid-90s day here. Still a mystery why the airport is consistently hotter.

User error.

[Winehole23]

Nights are a bit milder in Texas right now, but this ignores the trend. El Paso is about 8°F hotter at night now than it was in 1970.


“We’re running a good 6 to 12 degrees above normal [this summer], as far as low temperatures go,” Grzywacz said.https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/18/texas-heat-summer-extreme-weather/

[Winehole23]

https://ritholtz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/disaster.png

[Millennial_Messiah]

baseline bum Looks like no dice today? Only 99?

[baseline bum]

baseline bum Looks like no dice today? Only 99?

Official high was 100

https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KSAT.html

1. 67 days and counting in 2023 as of September 3rd
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[HemisfairArena]

climate just preparing democrats for hell for their iniquitous ways,,,,have fun.

[clambake]

climate just preparing democrats for hell for their iniquitous ways,,,,have fun.

Wow a talking fossil

Amazing!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Magic sky man pretty famously judges those for judging others.

Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

[HemisfairArena]

Wow a talking fossil

Amazing!

No substance whatsoever to refute my claim,,,,but I didnt expect one from a democrat on here,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Magic sky man pretty famously judges those for judging others.

Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Magic sky man loves to give cancer to kids so we have to build childrens hospitals and starve other kids to death in a place like Ethiopia,,,,sounds like a great god. Where do I sign up?

[Blake]

Magic sky man loves to give cancer to kids so we have to build childrens hospitals and starve other kids to death in a place like Ethiopia,,,,sounds like a great god. Where do I sign up?

Your Trump likes to hold up his Bible for photo ops. Ask him.

[Splits]

1698746564850618873

[baseline bum]

Groundhog motherfucking day

1. 68 days and counting in 2023 as of September 4th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

[Thread]

1698746564850618873

He chose time & a half, OR, even double time and it cost him his life.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Groundhog motherfucking day

1. 68 days and counting in 2023 as of September 4th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif

When are we getting snow?

I hope to get a chance to move to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan before it forever stops snowing there in the winter.

[baseline bum]

Also we're back on the leaderboard for most consecutive days of 100+ for the third time this summer

Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 12 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 4th
6. 12 days in 2019
6. 12 days in 2011

[baseline bum]

We also recorded the highest average temperature ever for a meteorological summer (June/July/August) at 102. Which is 0.3 degrees higher than the average high for the worst month ever until this year (namely, July 2022).

[Winehole23]

Lots of granular info and charts here

https://climatexas.tamu.edu/products/texas-extremes/index.html

[Winehole23]

The trend since 1975 is decidedly upward.

[Winehole23]

Woke mind virus at Texas A&M?

[baseline bum]

Lucky 69 for our never ending summer

1. 69 days and counting in 2023 as of September 5th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 13 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 5th
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lucky 69 for our never ending summer

1. 69 days and counting in 2023 as of September 5th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days in 2022
6. 13 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 5th
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

SMASHING the all time records. :wow We're really gonna have three of the top-5 all time 100+ streaks in the same summer.

this is the 2005 hurricane season, but for Texas heat instead of hurricanes.

[pgardn]

Magic sky man loves to give cancer to kids so we have to build childrens hospitals and starve other kids to death in a place like Ethiopia,,,,sounds like a great god. Where do I sign up?

You sign up in your dumb ass head.
In other words, you are signed in.

[Winehole23]

1695020630591049778

[Winehole23]

"it's just weather"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5VCy2LWwAACE2B?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

"weather watch"

1699422482451587511

[baseline bum]

"weather watch"

1699422482451587511

Up to $1500/MW hr as of 3:00PM

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFlGuDXpX9s

70 it is. I think we're going to beat him out, as Bonds only got to 73.

1. 70 days and counting in 2023 as of September 6th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 6th
5. 14 days in 2022
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Another Hurricane is headed FL's way. The GOP as a whole has stopped with the denial and instead are proposing policies that enrich or at least do not impede their oilco donors. Shit like planting trees or putting the onus on the consumer.

By the end of October FL might be flattened.

[baseline bum]

"weather watch"

1699422482451587511

Now $3800/MWhr at 4:00PM

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Gulf stream has been diving south around MS and AL so Texas is unlikely to be hit but the east coast is going to be fucked with the Atlantic at jacuzzi temps. Gulf temps mean that if one makes into the Gulf, Houston is going to get roached.

[Winehole23]

"Omega block"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5XnyLkXYAAXwbF?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

1699540627082375214 (https://twitter.com/HKronberg/status/1699540627082375214?s=20)

[Winehole23]

...and we get another conservation alert, more or less at the last second (shortly before 5pm.)

cites declining solar power in the evening as a factor :lol

1699551359312208054

[scott]

Making my annual trek back to San Antonio next week. How hellacious are things looking so I can be prepared?

[Blake]

"Omega block"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5XnyLkXYAAXwbF?format=jpg&name=small

Lol weather boobies

[Winehole23]

We made it through a Level 2 Energy Emergency Alert tonight, the first (I think) since winter storm Uri.

Thanks to all who helped!


Austin Energy: Energy conservation is critical. ERCOT has called Energy Emergency Alert Level 2. There are no controlled outages at this time. If conditions don't improve, ERCOT-mandated, controlled outages may be needed. Please conserve as much as safely possible. More info @ ercot.com/txans . Conservation tips @ austinenergy.com/summer .

[Winehole23]

1699612869107572910 (http://https://twitter.com/ERCOT_ISO/status/1699612869107572910?s=20)

[Winehole23]

Tomorrow will be hotter, ERCOT says the "Weather Watch" will remain in effect.

[baseline bum]

Making my annual trek back to San Antonio next week. How hellacious are things looking so I can be prepared?

We have a big cold front that's going to bring us down to a bit above historical average temperatures starting Tuesday. Who the fuck knows how long it'll last, every time we get a front it seems so short lived this year. We have been going 9-12 degrees above average for a few days and will until Monday when we might hit 99 and only be 6-7 degrees above historical average for the date.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Making my annual trek back to San Antonio next week. How hellacious are things looking so I can be prepared?

It's just hot as fuck all day. Nights are rather nice IMO.

[Winehole23]

Wonder how much thermal energy was offline today, that's not easy to find at ercot.com.

[HemisfairArena]

Imagine if we had electric cars and were draining the grid during this heat wave,,,,,,

[Winehole23]

Imagine if we had electric cars and were draining the grid during this heat wave,,,,,,cars aren't the answer. more public transportation and trains are needed.

[ChumpDumper]

Imagine if we had electric cars and were draining the grid during this heat wave,,,,,,

Imagine if we just joined the other grids and didn't have these manufactured shortages.

[Blake]

Imagine if we just joined the other grids and didn't have these manufactured shortages.

No no. Secede!

[Thread]

No no. Secede!

Like your side did after Trump whooped Clinton..."We'll resist him, his Presidency and beg his wife to forsaken him. Then we'll beat the shit out of Whites, not us, but the other Whites and then we'll burn the western seaboard to the ground."

Ya fuck, you.

[Winehole23]

Wonder how much thermal energy was offline today, that's not easy to find at ercot.com.


“Tonight, in ERCOT there was a sudden frequency drop, for reasons that are still being investigated. Industrial loads were called upon to shut down their operations and help stabilize the grid,” read a statement from the Texas Association of Manufacturers.


"This is what happens when it is 97 degrees outside at ~8 pm," Michael Webber, a professor in UT Austin’s Department of Mechanical Engineering tweeted (https://twitter.com/MichaelEWebber/status/1699585727967703466?s=20). "Demand at 8 pm this year is as high as our 5 pm peaks last year. Insane."https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2023-09-07/texas-just-got-closer-to-blackouts-than-it-has-since-2021-what-happened

[Winehole23]

Speculative, but hardly improbable.

Weak winds and solar power are routinely cited in ERCOT alerts, but thermal plants tripping offline gets hidden behind a screen.

1699618217759514958

[ChumpDumper]

Speculative, but hardly improbable.

Weak winds and solar power are routinely cited in ERCOT alerts, but thermal plants tripping offline gets hidden behind a screen.

1699618217759514958

WE KNOW FOR A FACT THE SUN WENT OFFLINE LAST NIGHT

[Winehole23]

Last night, ERCOT skipped the level 1 alert at 7:30pm.

What caused the sudden drop in frequency and energy supply? 1699781785637490741

[Winehole23]

declining solar power generation into the afternoon & evening hours

i.e., an occluded front will bring partly cloudy conditions to north Texas, then the sun will set.

1699816672549326924

[Winehole23]

even if it's "just weather," Texas needs to be prepared for what it is and what it will be.

https://twitter.com/erinmdouglas23/status/1699817747323224490?s=20

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFlGuDXpX9s

70 it is. I think we're going to beat him out, as Bonds only got to 73.

1. 70 days and counting in 2023 as of September 6th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
3. 15 days in 2013
5. 14 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 6th
5. 14 days in 2022
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpBZ5_b48g

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJVNo6ne_vw

1. 71 days and counting in 2023 as of September 7th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 16 days in 2023 (July)
4. 15 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 7th
4. 15 days in 2013
6. 14 days in 2022
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

[Winehole23]

Doug Lewin on last night's Level 2 alert


The agency put out a press release citing low wind and the sun going down (as well as high heat and demand) for the disruption, even though wind was consistent with forecasts and delivered 60-100% above what ERCOT defines as “low wind” in its Seasonal Assessment of Resource Adequacy (SARA). As Katie Coleman, an attorney for the Texas Industrial Energy Consumers, told Bloomberg, “We knew wind was low and demand was high, but there was no reason to expect conditions to be worse than many other days this summer.”


ERCOT has yet to address an apparent 400-megawatt drop in coal output during the same hour frequency dropped yesterday. More than that, ERCOT hasn’t addressed the apparent congestion and curtailment issues — which they might have caused — that reduced the flow of electricity from South Texas to North Texas.
https://www.douglewin.com/p/ercot-has-more-questions-to-answer

[Winehole23]

ERCOT’s own posted data also shows that there was a 1,000-megawatt drop in wind output right after 7:00 p.m. — even though there was no reduction in wind speeds.

[Winehole23]

More batteries and transmission would help.

https://twitter.com/ModeledBehavior/status/1699951461977800883?s=20 (http://https://twitter.com/ModeledBehavior/status/1699951461977800883?s=20)

[Winehole23]

All our representatives are busy at this time, please stay on the line and your call will be answered in the order received

https://twitter.com/MoseBuchele/status/1699822886322683970?s=20

[Winehole23]

Transmission emergency: too much wind and solar.

https://twitter.com/lukemetzger/status/1699983135641915452?s=20

[baseline bum]

Might as well call it at 10AM with 105 forecast

1. 72 days and counting in 2023 as of September 8th
2. 59 days in 2009
3. 58 days in 2022
4. 57 days in 2011
5. 41 days in 2013
6. 36 days in 2020
6. 36 days in 1998
8. 33 days in 1948


https://c.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAC/this-is.gif


Most consecutive days of 100+
1. 23 days in 2023 (July/August)
2. 21 days in 1962
3. 16 days and counting in 2023 (August/September) as of September 8th
3. 16 days in 2023 (July)
4. 15 days in 2013
6. 14 days in 2022
7. 12 days in 2019
7. 12 days in 2011

[baseline bum]

Also means of the four longest streaks of consecutive 100+ days, 2023 has three of them.

[Winehole23]

Two years after Uri, Texas fails to deliver energy reliability.


During the power emergency, ERCOT worried that a transmission line that runs power from South Texas to the rest of the state could overload with electricity. That put the transmission line itself at risk of, essentially, frying. Rather than risk the line tripping off or breaking down, ERCOT cut the flow of power running over the system right when people needed it most.

Given the fact that the power was moving from wind-rich South Texas, it seems likely it was wind-generated electricity that was curtailed.

That complicates the grid operator's frequent suggestions that low wind output is responsible for this summer’s requests for energy conservation. There was, apparently, wind power being produced in the state on Wednesday. The grid simply didn’t have the capacity to move it.

“All the wind that was on in the south was struggling to get to Dallas to help meet demand,” former ERCOT head Brad Jones told Bloomberg (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2023/09/07/texas-power-emergency-hinged-on-stranded-wind-farm-supplies/). “So right in the middle of this, ERCOT had to reduce generation in the south to prevent that line from being overloaded.”

Jones says ERCOT needed to cut about 1,000 megawatts. That’s about enough energy to power 200,000 homes, a significant amount of power in an energy emergency.
In an email to KUT, ERCOT confirmed that “a transmission limitation in the south Texas region that restricted the flow of generation out of South Texas to the rest of the grid” factored into Wednesday’s emergency.
https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2023-09-08/ercot-texas-electric-grid-congestion-at-risk-energy-emergency

[Winehole23]

On Thursday, current ERCOT CEO Pablo Vegas wrote a letter (https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2023-09/ERCOT%20202%28c%29%20Request.pdf)to the Department of Energy requesting permission to suspend emissions rules for some power plants, allowing them to operate during this time of high energy demand in Texas.

ERCOT says it needs to allow power plants to pollute more than usual in order to keep the lights on.

In the letter (https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2023-09/ERCOT%20202%28c%29%20Request.pdf), Vegas outlined the reasons for recent grid instability, citing the transmission congestion that the grid operator has been aware of "for a few weeks." He writes that trouble on the transmission line “required a decrease in output from certain units” on Wednesday and said the same problem may occur Thursday and Friday night as well.

“Such an overload would require ERCOT to reduce output of resources impacting the loading on that element, exacerbating ERCOT’s scarcity concern,” Vegas wrote.

The Department of Energy approved the request (https://www.ercot.com/about/legal/doe202c).

[Extra Stout]

Two years after Uri, Texas fails to deliver energy reliability.

https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2023-09-08/ercot-texas-electric-grid-congestion-at-risk-energy-emergency
Natural gas interests have lobbied against investing to upgrade transmission lines to deliver wind power where it is needed.

[Winehole23]

Lol weather boobiesthe flooding in Greece is mind-blowing. they just got a years' worth of rainfall in a few days.

[Blake]

Natural gas interests have lobbied against investing to upgrade transmission lines to deliver wind power where it is needed.

Figures.

Who's lobbying to keep us off the national grid?

[pgardn]

Transmission emergency: too much wind and solar.

https://twitter.com/lukemetzger/status/1699983135641915452?s=20

Those blue low prices seems to stop at the first major city of San Antonio. Houston also got left out.
Just a little bit further and we could have been in the light yellow.
How unfortunate...

[pgardn]

Figures.

Who's lobbying to keep us off the national grid?

"We are business friendly Texas. We dont need California ideas. If our residential customers freeze this winter thats just the way it is."

[pgardn]

The more ERCOT refuses to answer questions, the more libs get to speculate on unsavory money grabs.
You would think they would want to explain their problems clearly and stop all this "gossip"

[Winehole23]

RELAX. COOLER WEATHER IS COMING SOON.

1700338256322179317

[Winehole23]

WE KNOW FOR A FACT THE SUN WENT OFFLINE LAST NIGHTTHE UNRELIABILITY OF SOLAR POWER AT NIGHT IS UNQUESTIONED BY ALL CREDIBLE AUTHORITIES, SAVE THOSE POSSESSING BATTERY STORAGE CAPACITY...

[Winehole23]

...OR TRANSMISSION LINES SUFFICENT TO DIRECT THE ENERGY TO MEET PUBLIC DEMAND EFFICIENTLY.