The World Cup thread!

[Texas_Ranger]

This is how it looks like:

Germany - Sweden
Argentina - Mexico

England - Ecuador
Portugal - Netherland

Italy - Australia
Switzerland - Ukraine

Brazil - Ghana
Spain - France

We will watch some great games. Tomorrow are two matches:
GER - SWE 2-1
ARG - MEX 3-1

[Petite Française bis]

Agree, I want to se a good match too.
But Ghana can win, because Brazil team will underate them, and they will perhaps not play with all the power agains them. Everything is possible.
:spin

You buried us too quickly :elephant

[velik_m]

Nay, Korea deflected it. The Assistant fucked Korea by raising his flag.

game doesn't stop until the whistle blows. The flag is there for the main ref, not for players.



Swiss win, France wins.

:angel

[austinfan]

I cant' wait to watch the Argentina-Mexico game tomorrow. I have a feeling it's gonna be a dogfight, along with Portugal-Holland.

[nkdlunch]

yup if mexico can hold out till late in the game, they have a chance

but Argentina will probably win and that Riquelme fro argentina is quickly becoming my favorite player

[polandprzem]

France- Togo 3-0
Swiss - Korea 2-1
Spain -Arabia 2-0
Ukraine - Tunisia 2-1

Well I predicted the winner but dammit none score is correct today :depressed

[Texas_Ranger]

If you guys didn`t know:

Patric Viera haves birthday today. He`s got 30 years.
He scored a goal today so that was his gift to himself. :birthday: :birthday:

[ALVAREZ6]

So if Argentina wins, they play the winner of Germany - Sweden???

[Phenomanul]

So if Argentina wins, they play the winner of Germany - Sweden???

Yep..

[Phenomanul]

yup if mexico can hold out till late in the game, they have a chance

but Argentina will probably win and that Riquelme fro argentina is quickly becoming my favorite player

I wonder if Manu will be at the game...

[Texas_Ranger]

So if Argentina wins, they play the winner of Germany - Sweden???

Are you scared?

Argentina will win GER or SWE, they should not be a problem.

[cheguevara]

So if Argentina wins, they play the winner of Germany - Sweden???

yes. basically its gonna be Argentina vs. Germany in Berlin!!!!

I am almost sure Germany is gonna win it all.

[ALVAREZ6]

I'm not scared, but Germany is a tough team.


I have confidence in Juan Riquelme, "el loco" Carlos Tevez, Hernan Crespo, Lionel Messi, Javier Saviola, Maxi Rodriguez, "el raton" Roberto Ayala, Sorin, Cambiasso...

they will dominate.

[Texas_Ranger]

I'm not scared, but Germany is a tough team.


I have confidence in Juan Riquelme, "el loco" Carlos Tevez, Hernan Crespo, Lionel Messi, Javier Saviola, Maxi Rodriguez, "el raton" Roberto Ayala, Sorin, Cambiasso...

they will dominate.


You forgot Julio Ricardo Cruz, he is my fauvourite ARG player with Cambiasso and Riquelme.

[polandprzem]

You are forgotting the Poles in 'Germs' team :)

[danyel]

"el loco" Carlos Tevez

Loco? I think Tevez nickname is Apache...but I might be wrong

[Phenomanul]

Here's an interesting link on the history between Argentina and Mexico....

hmmm

its not as lopsided as I thought it would be...

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/h2h/index.html?ta=ARG&tb=MEX&cl=all

[Sense]

Here's an interesting link on the history between Argentina and Mexico....

hmmm

its not as lopsided as I thought it would be...

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/h2h/index.html?ta=ARG&tb=MEX&cl=all


There aren't enough matches for an Argentinian fan to be confident....

[MaNuMaNiAc]

There aren't enough matches for an Argentinian fan to be confident....
and yet I am... go figure http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Phenomanul]

and yet I am... go figure http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

For some reason I thought we had met more times than that...

I mean we have like thirty something meetings with Brasil and only 14 with Argentina... weird.

What's even weirder is that in the years spanning 1985-1993 (During the Maradona-led years and later Batistuta) the record was 1-4-1...

[Phenomanul]

Hopefully there is little controversy in tomorrow's game.... I'm tired of all the missed calls so far....

[MaNuMaNiAc]

hegamboa, you should really look more into the times you've met us under important competitions. I know Argentina usually doesn't send its best squad for friendlies and the such. For example, did you know the US has beaten Argentina more times than Argentina has beaten the US? but every time we've played the US it has been for friendlies and every time, we've sent our third squad. So those sorts of things can be decieving.

Although I do agree Mexico can be a tough opponent when playing their very best football, the thing is, they aren't right now. Who knows, anything can happen really.

[Phenomanul]

hegamboa, you should really look more into the times you've met us under important competitions. I know Argentina usually doesn't send its best squad for friendlies and the such. For example, did you know the US has beaten Argentina more times than Argentina has beaten the US? but every time we've played the US it has been for friendlies and every time, we've sent our third squad. So those sorts of things can be decieving.

Although I do agree Mexico can be a tough opponent when playing their very best football, the thing is, they aren't right now. Who knows, anything can happen really.


I realize that, I just thought it was surprising... I thought the record was more like 25-6-5 or something along those lines...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

For some reason I thought we had met more times than that...

I mean we have like thirty something meetings with Brasil and only 14 with Argentina... weird.

What's even weirder is that in the years spanning 1985-1993 (During the Maradona-led years and later Batistuta) the record was 1-4-1...
again, check into who was playing

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I realize that, I just thought it was surprising...
its shouldn't be, Mexico has always been a very good team, just for some reason or other they always fail to reach the top. Its definately not talent you're lacking IMO.

[Phenomanul]

again, check into who was playing

I don't know... I'd have to buy a sport's almanac for that one.

[Old School Chic]

its shouldn't be, Mexico has always been a very good team , just for some reason or other they always fail to reach the top. Its definately not talent you're lacking IMO.

I'm hoping for a win today. Go Mexico!

[polandprzem]

Go Poland Go!!!!

PODOLSKI baby!

[Texas_Ranger]

1-0 fur Deutchland, Lucas Podolski

[MannyIsGod]

Klose is fucking awesome

[polandprzem]

Klose will be next :D

[polandprzem]

Klose is fucking awesome

The polish blood man!

[polandprzem]

Are they destroying them?

[danyel]

damn Germany is killing Sweden, Klose is on fire...

[MannyIsGod]

Damn, thats pretty. Germany is goot

[Spurologist]

Kahn still acting like a bitter bitch since Klinsmann picked Lehman over him. Get the fuck over it and celebrate with your teammates instead of acting like Mark Cuban.

[Spurologist]

Podolski should have had a hat trick there. SHANK

[FromWayDowntown]

Did the Swedes even wake their side up this morning? The Germans look like they're playing against air right now.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Yeah, he's running out of time. He better hurry up!

[rascal]

yes. basically its gonna be Argentina vs. Germany in Berlin!!!!

I am almost sure Germany is gonna win it all.


Agree. It will be Germany over Brazil in the final.

[polandprzem]

Agree. It will be Germany over Brazil in the final.

Wel, first of all they've got to beat Argentina.

[Spurologist]

Larsson is pulling a Dirk-NBA Finals-4thquarter-rightnow

[FromWayDowntown]

33rd minute and Germany leads in shots 12-1 and 5-0 in shots on goal.

And but for a couple of near misses, the Swedes could be down by 3 or 4.

[FromWayDowntown]

Lucic = gonzo on another ridiculous yellow card.

[danyel]

Just what the Swedes needed, like they weren't being outplayed with 11 players, now they have just 10...

[Spurologist]

All the WC refs are FUCKED in the head

[danyel]

WTF are you talking about? that was a clear yellow for holding another player by the t-shirt, thats like automatic yellow.

[polandprzem]

WTF are you talking about? that was a clear yellow for holding another player by the t-shirt, thats like automatic yellow.
:tu

And oppurtunity for a fastbreak.

Game is over. The germany played great game and even though in soccer everything can happen I don't thing Germs would let is slip.

[rascal]

I hate Germany but they will win it all. They will beat Argentina but I will be rooting for Argentina.

[FromWayDowntown]

WTF are you talking about? that was a clear yellow for holding another player by the t-shirt, thats like automatic yellow.

Far worse hasn't even been called, much less booked, in this tournament. The officiating is maddeningly inconsistent.

[Spurologist]

WTF are you talking about? that was a clear yellow for holding another player by the t-shirt, thats like automatic yellow.

yes it's a yellow but it's not enough on a second yellow. You have to let the players play. It was more of an obtruction than a hold. A last warning should have been the call.

[danyel]

They will probably have to get through Argentina, Italy and Brazil. I wouldn't just hand them the cup because they beat Sweden...

[Spurologist]

Agree. It will be Germany over Brazil in the final.

I don't think you can win the WC when your best defender is Michael Ballack. Just ask the Mavericks. Brazil will eat them alive.

[velik_m]

germany 2-0 up and the ref still feels the need to help them out. pathetic.

[rascal]

Italy isn't that good. Argentina and especially Brazil will be their toughest matches. Brazil will be the best chance to beat Germany.

Germany will beat Argentina, it wouldn't surprise me if that game went to goal kicks where Germany would win. They seem to have more powerful strikers than Argentina who scores more on finness passing skills and finishing close on goal.

[Spurologist]

Germany 4
Sweden 0

Argentina 3
Mexico 1

England 2
Ecuador 1

Portugal 2 (win by PKs)
Netherland 2

Italy 2
Australia 0

Switzerland 1
Ukraine 2

Brazil 3
Ghana 0

Upset Special

France 2
Spain 1

[polandprzem]

Well every game is different in soccer turnaments. Germany may dominate sweden. Sweden may win with Argentina, but it doeasn't mean that Argentina won't dominate Germany.

You've got to learn that in soccer turnament every game is different.

And stop talking about the refs already. It's fuckin boring

[velik_m]

swedish defenders should learn what a tackle is.

[rascal]

I don't think you can win the WC when your best defender is Michael Ballack. Just ask the Mavericks. Brazil will eat them alive.
Disagree. Its about goal scoring ability and Germany is on par with Brazil and Argentina. The best defense in soccer is ball possession, shots on goal and goal scoring and germany is good at all of this. they can distance themselves from other teams with their offense alone.

Also the home team has a history of doing well in world cup.

[rascal]

It would not surprise me if Brazil beat Germany and I will be rooting for Brazil in that matchup. I want germany knocked out as soon as possible but I don't see that happening.

[Spurologist]

Diasgree. Its about goal scoring ability and Germany is on par with Brazil and Argentina. The best defense in soccer is ball possession, shots on goal and goal scoring and germany is good at all of this. they can distance themselves from other teams with their offense alone.

Also the home team has a history of doing well in world cup.

The problem is when you face the bigger teams you are not always going to have that advantage. The competition is better. It's not like Germany would dominate possession 60 to 40. In 1998 Brazil was thinking the same thing. Then they got reamed because of horrible defense and lost 3-0. All it takes is one chance and it's a goal because of bad defense. Even fat boy Ronaldo will score every time. As bad as Sweden as played they had 3 great scoring chances that should have been goals. The D pathetic and it will show. That is all.

[rascal]

The problem is when you face the bigger teams you are not always going to have that advantage. The competition is better. It's not like Germany would dominate possession 60 to 40. In 1998 Brazil was thinking the same thing. Then they got reamed because of horrible defense and lost 3-0. All it takes is one chance and it's a goal because of bad defense. Even fat boy Ronaldo will score every time. As bad as Sweden as played they had 3 great scoring chances that should have been goals. The D pathetic and it will show. That is all.

Their d isn't that bad. Didn't they shut out their last two opponents?
I've seen every team in the tournament have defensive breakdowns. its about goal scoring ability and Germany is one of the best.

But I hope you are right and Germany gets beat. I just don't see that happening though.

[Spurologist]

All the WC refs are FUCKED in the head

Case and point

[MannyIsGod]

wooooooooow. That could have gotten them back in the match. You could see the nerves in his face before taking it. Choke job.

[MannyIsGod]

Seriously, I've never seen someone so scared before. Dude just flat out couldn't handle the pressure.

[polandprzem]

Seriously, I've never seen someone so scared before. Dude just flat out couldn't handle the pressure.

Riquelme was more scared then you've seen in Chapions Leauge.

That was a pressure. Much more then in Basketball FT.

The referee made a mistake wth that Penalty call.

[Spurologist]

Their d isn't that bad. Didn't they shut out their last two opponents?
I've seen every team in the tournament have defensive breakdowns. its about goal scoring ability and Germany is one of the best.

But I hope you are right and Germany gets beat. I just don't see that happening though.

:lol I was the one that said Metzelder is one of the best defenders on the world. He is but collectively they haven't been that great.

I'm just looking for great games

[Kori Ellis]

I'm going out for the day, I'll payout the Group vBookies later tonight.

[MannyIsGod]

Germany looks good. I hope Mexico beats the Manus later.

[polandprzem]

So we've got first team in the quarterfinals, and they can be dangerous.

PPL! we've got "The real" Championships now! No bad games left.

[Texas_Ranger]

Goodby Sweden, good game.

[Streakyshooter08]

I hate Germany but they will win it all. They will beat Argentina but I will be rooting for Argentina.

Do you hate the team or the country? Hate is a strong word so, why?

I believe Argentinia is a better team than Germany but it seems to be a advantage playing at home. If all turns out normal Argentina should beat them.

Of course I am happy that they won and they deserved it. More shots, more possession and good flow of the game esp. 1st half...

Hope the next games will be good as well...

[polandprzem]

We played good game esp. on defense controlling the ball. If they can do that vs Argentina then I say wow.
We scored 2 goals - I predicted one, but that was a good win ans as streaky said a big adventage of shots.

Damn they scared me a little.

Now come on Argentina !!!!!!1

[velik_m]

We played good game esp. on defense controlling the ball. If they can do that vs Argentina then I say wow.
We scored 2 goals - I predicted one, but that was a good win ans as streaky said a big adventage of shots.

Damn they scared me a little.

Now come on Argentina !!!!!!1

we? have i missed something? did Germany annexed Poland again?

[polandprzem]

we? have i missed something? did Germany annexed Poland again?

Podolski and Klose my man :D




Hey manumania - Lozano is in the studio :)



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Manumania probabaly in some bar........

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^^^
Nope - I think he abandoned to post :)

[polandprzem]

Argentina sleeping like the Sweds.
They you go 0-1 OSC must be happy right now

[MannyIsGod]

Mexico Scores First!!

[rascal]

Mex is fired up. Argentina has their hands full.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Mexico playing the way Argentina should be playing, with balls. Argentina is sleeping. If this continues, Mexico could score up to 2 more goals

[MaNuMaNiAc]

there we go

[darrenbatty]

and argentina equalises

[danyel]

phewww.....

back to start

[MannyIsGod]

This is an exciting game already!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Mexico is dominating right now, and they will continue to dominate until Argentina decides to wake the fuck up

[Jekka]

Holy shit that was close.

[Jekka]

Godamnit, Jess is signed in on the laptop and I'm too lazy to sign in.

[MannyIsGod]

Damn, nice try by Borgetti!

[MannyIsGod]

Thats not a foul. Weak.

[MannyIsGod]

Mexico is imposing thier will right now. Its pretty sick how much they are dominating.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Maxi Rodriguez is embarassing himself

[MannyIsGod]

Wow, dude is lucky he didn't hurt him worse.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That could just as easily have been a red card. It was up to the ref and we got damn lucky. Right now, Mexico deserves to win. Either way, if we happen to win this game by some miracle of life, we'll get murdered against Germany. Argentina is playing amateur football right now, its embarassing.

[velik_m]

that was a red.

[rascal]

Do you hate the team or the country? Hate is a strong word so, why?

I believe Argentinia is a better team than Germany but it seems to be a advantage playing at home. If all turns out normal Argentina should beat them.

Of course I am happy that they won and they deserved it. More shots, more possession and good flow of the game esp. 1st half...

Hope the next games will be good as well...

OK Hate is the wrong word choice. I just dislike them. I think they will win it all so I'm rooting against what I think will happen. Germany always seemed arrogant to me. Just my personal observation.

[Phenomanul]

That should have been a red card... last man to the goal... Damn the Argentineans are lucky... you would have bet your house if that had been toward the Mexican goal that they would have red carded the mexican defender...

[Sense]

That could just as easily have been a red card. It was up to the ref and we got damn lucky. Right now, Mexico deserves to win

heh.... this is a really, really, weird post from you from your previous ones...

[velik_m]

Podolski and Klose my man :D



ah yes, Polish people serving German interest.

[Sense]

Borgetti was involved in an own goal.... he did get kicked in the face tho.... oh well...

[rascal]

Mexico is imposing thier will right now. Its pretty sick how much they are dominating.
Mexico has come out with fire which I haven't seen in the other games. Its like someone spit on their mothers.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

actually, he wasn't the last man, there was one man a bout a meter back. Either way, I agree, all things considered it should have been a red.

Hegamboa, stop playing that bullshit "prejudice" card, the ref fucked up, he could have fucked up for Mexico just as easily

[Phenomanul]

BTW didn't I tell you all about Andres Guardado.... I told ya he should have been playing earlier...

[danyel]

ah yes, Polish people serving German interest.

Like we haven't seen that one before... :rolleyes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

heh.... this is a really, really, weird post from you from your previous ones...
WTF? you're the one that claims I'm a homer, that's your problem not mine

[velik_m]

Mexico is playing good, overall great game.

The ref should have more balls on that call, but he's been good otherwise. He might compensate for his decision in second half, expect more calls to go Mexico way.

[Sense]

WTF? you're the one that claims I'm a homer, that's your problem not mine

I just think it's pretty funny how you thought it would've been a walk in the park..... arguing the past games and such... and now you're trying to say that "Mexico will win"... in case they do, which i dont blame you because they look "alright"... but it's kinda sad, this won't make you look better from past remarks.

[Phenomanul]

actually, he wasn't the last man, there was one man a bout a meter back. Either way, I agree, all things considered it should have been a red.

Hegamboa, stop playing that bullshit "prejudice" card, the ref fucked up, he could have fucked up for Mexico just as easily

Not against Mexico per se...

But you would have to be blind to say that Argentina isn't lucky at World Cups (though very damn good too)...

Two unwhistled hands by Maradona back up my argument..

Though that phantom penalty in the 1990 Italy WC Final only erases one.

[Sense]

Mexico is playing good, overall great game.

The ref should have more balls on that call, but he's been good otherwise. He might compensate for his decision in second half, expect more calls to go Mexico way.

Heh, I haven't seen a ref smile and chuckle as much as this one after making a call.... pretty weird..

[danyel]

Two unwhistled hands by Maradona back up my argument..


Remind me whats the second please

[velik_m]

Heh, I haven't seen a ref smile and chuckle as much as this one after making a call.... pretty weird..

have you seen the one at Germany - Sweden when he gave a red card? He even got a nice pad on the back from Podolski (?)

[Phenomanul]

Remind me whats the second please


Ask Polandprezm.... I believe they were playing Poland... he stopped the ball from going into the goal like a goalie would...

Hold let me do some research...

[Sense]

Ask Polandprezm.... I believe they were playing Poland... he stopped the ball from going into the goal like a goalie would...

Hold let me do some research...

would this be one?

http://espn.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/maradona_hand.jpg

[polandprzem]

That should have been a red card... last man to the goal... Damn the Argentineans are lucky... you would have bet your house if that had been toward the Mexican goal that they would have red carded the mexican defender...

That was not the last man to goal as ref was pointing

[danyel]

would this be one?

http://espn.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/maradona_hand.jpg

Thats the one we all know about

[Phenomanul]

Ask Polandprezm.... I believe they were playing Poland... he stopped the ball from going into the goal like a goalie would...

Hold on let me do some research...

1978 Second Round game...

[danyel]

1978 Second Round game...


mmm...Maradona didnt play in 1978

[polandprzem]

Many many cotroversies in history of the soccer.
In the past the referee was not seeing that much as it is now, and you still complaining. :rolleyes


manumania don't tell us Argentina not deserves to win

[velik_m]

That was not the last man to goal as ref was pointing

He had a clear path towards the goal.

[Phenomanul]

That was not the last man to goal as ref was pointing


He was clearly 20 feet from anybody with only the goal ahead of him... the other Argentinean defender was to his left.... but not in front of him.

[Sense]

He's obviously in denial.... let him be

[Phenomanul]

mmm...Maradona didnt play in 1978


When I watch my FIFA fever DVD - Segment titled 'Greatest WC Controversies' I'll get back to you... but right now I'm recording the game so you will have to wait till the end of the game before you get your answer... sorry.

I won't forget to bump this though...

[Sense]

Time to sit down and watch the game... bbl

[polandprzem]

He was clearly 20 feet from anybody with only the goal ahead of him... the other Argentinean defender was to his left.... but not in front of him.

I only said that the ref was pointing it (the "last" defendor who could backup his friend :) )


I can't remember two hands by Maradona.
Yeah - but I'm not even interested in soccer.

[danyel]

That might have been a red card even if he wasn't the last man...

[Phenomanul]

Alright back to the game...

My PC is in a different room as the big TV so I will be back after the game... later.

[polandprzem]

Time to sit down and watch the game... bbl

Good idea. and eat a supper done by myself. :) mmmmm a chicken

[MannyIsGod]

I don't mind not giving him a red. Let them play. There have been too many reds in the tournament. Giving borderline reds just doesn't make for good games.

[polandprzem]

That might have been a red card even if he wasn't the last man...

Yeah - if he destroyed the mans legs.
That was not a big contact...........Oh stop about those refs GAME!!!!!!!!!!1

[danyel]

I'd like to see Tevez or Messi in, Saviola hasnt done much so far...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

it boggles the mind why THE FUCK Messi and Tevez are not in the game already

[rascal]

Torrado looks like his mother may be American. Anyone know if this is true? Anyway he is playing a good game for Mexico.

[MannyIsGod]

How does that ref not call that?!?!?!?!?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

WHAT THE FUCK!! does Pekerman not konw he has substitutions!

[whottt]

I'm enjoying this game...I'm pulling for Mexico all the way. It's always more fun to root for the underdog, no one is counting on Mexico to do squat, and it's about time Argentina got taken down a notch.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol, he's in he's in. Crespo looked like shit all day.

[polandprzem]

Tevez and Aimar to the rescue. Little late.

cambiasso instead of Riquelme and Crespo instead of Saviolam . packerman!

[whottt]

I wish the Mexican Soccer players wanted to come to America like most of the rest of Mexico...we could use these dudes on our team.

[Tek_XX]

Too much diving in Soccer, this is part of the turnoff to many americans.

[whottt]

What's funny about the diving is all the theatrics when they barely get touched...Reminds me of when Duncan sprains his ankle. Tim Duncan would be a good Soccer player.

[whottt]

How the hell is that not a Red Card?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Seriously WHY THE FUCK did Pekerman wait this long to put messi in??? Saviola hasn't done anything in the entire game!

[Tek_XX]

If Soccer had more tackles like that, Americans would be more interested

[MannyIsGod]

Diving is the reason Americans don't like soccer? :lol

Theres one reason most Americans don't dig professional soccer and it is because we don't field a winner. Thats it. Its a catch 22.

Damn, Mexico looking good right now.

[rascal]

Argentina got away with a couple of non calls.

[danyel]

It doesnt really matter who wins this game, none of this teams can beat Germany

[Tek_XX]

Diving is the reason Americans don't like soccer? :lol

Theres one reason most Americans don't dig professional soccer and it is because we don't field a winner. Thats it. Its a catch 22.

Damn, Mexico looking good right now.

I said diving is one part of why Americans don't dig soccer. I guess i should say proffesional soccer.

[whottt]

Even if we win it'll be about like Lance Armstrong and the Tour De France...it'll be popular while we win but won't have lasting popularity after the winning is over.


Soccer needs to be more violent and higher scoring for Americans to embrace it more IMO.

[Tek_XX]

Germany is totally beatable.

[MannyIsGod]

Either of these teams can beat Germany. One thing everyone should learn is that no matter how good a team is whichever squad comes out with more fire has the best chance to win.

The US played a much better German team very well in 02.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That Wasn"t Offside!!!!

[Tek_XX]

Even if we win it'll be about like Lance Armstrong and the Tour De France...it'll be popular while we win but won't have lasting popularity after the winning is over.


Soccer needs to be more violent and higher scoring for Americans to embrace it more IMO.

I know it may be sacralidge to many die hard soccer fans but they should try dropping the offsides. Higher scoring may help get more fans.

[danyel]

We got robbed on that call, terrible

[MannyIsGod]

Not a single team has looked unbeatable in this cup.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

that SHIT WASN"T OFFSIDE!!!

[rascal]

Bad call on Argentina. That looked like a good goal.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I guess we're even, we got screwed on that one, and Mexico got screwed on that yellow that should have been a red

[rascal]

I know it may be sacralidge to many die hard soccer fans but they should try dropping the offsides. Higher scoring may help get more fans.
I agree. they need to adjust the offsides call to get more scoring.

[Phenomanul]

I guess we're even, we got screwed on that one, and Mexico got screwed on that yellow that should have been a red

:tu even it is...

[danyel]

Old saying says "Two wrongs dont make a right"

[MannyIsGod]

Man, great game so far.

[Phenomanul]

Nerveracking game...... :madrun :madrun

So far all my teams have lost this year... the Spurs, the U.S., hopefully one can stay alive...

[Tek_XX]

Mexicans are out of control.

[polandprzem]

I guess we're even, we got screwed on that one, and Mexico got screwed on that yellow that should have been a red

hahahahaha


Fellas - we've got an overtime:)

Yup that was not an offside - double :)

So who will dies in a sudden death?

Saviola and Riquelem should not be in the game after 60 minutes.

How much more can Sorin handle? (he was playing in every game 90 minutes as I remember)

No subs

One mistake and it's over.

Emotions emotions

[Bob Lanier]

Too much diving in Soccer, this is part of the turnoff to many americans.
On a basketball board? NBA players flop at least as much as football players do, and from much less contact.

[Phenomanul]

Old saying says "Two wrongs dont make a right"


Would you have prefered to play most of the second half with 10 men...

BTW Scaloni should have been yellow carded for jumping on top of Zinha....

[Three Lions]

It was the bloody flag of God. :lol :rollin

[rascal]

I guess we're even, we got screwed on that one, and Mexico got screwed on that yellow that should have been a red
There should have been another couple of yellows that Argentina got away with but the bad call on the offsides is worse than all of them. It cost them the winning goal and maybe the game.

How many minutes of OT?

[danyel]

So who will dies in a sudden death?


Its not sudden death, I believe

[polandprzem]

Argentina without a wings :pctoss

Tevez is a machine one good pass and he will score. Those 3 - messi , Tevez and Aimar can make some havoc - to the game!!1

[Phenomanul]

Its not sudden death, I believe


You're right both 15 minute halves are played out in full...

[danyel]

It was the bloody flag of God. :lol :rollin

Brits still bleeding through the wound...

[polandprzem]

30 minutes

WTF they changesd the rules of sudden death:?

[Phenomanul]

Brits still bleeding through the wound...

Be nice... :spin

[Tek_XX]

On a basketball board? NBA players flop at least as much as football players do, and from much less contact.

Obviously other factors keep americans interested in basketball. But seriosly these guys falling on the ground like they've just been hit in the nuts with a hammer is just a turnoff.

[whottt]

Mexico looks gassed...I'd have to say Argentina definitely holds the upper hand right now.

[Three Lions]

Brits still bleeding through the wound...

If the Mexicans don't rip you a bloody new one we will.

[velik_m]

I know it may be sacralidge to many die hard soccer fans but they should try dropping the offsides. Higher scoring may help get more fans.

it would also make the game more static, defenders wouldn't dare move foward.

[whottt]

On a basketball board? NBA players flop at least as much as football players do, and from much less contact.



No way...plus there aren't usually all the BS theatrics to go with the flop...

These guys will not even get touched and you'll think they are half dead...then they get stretchered off the field to add to the dramatic effect.


I've seen guys get compound fractures in their legs in NFL games with less theatrics than some of the Soccer players pull when they don't even get touched.

And about the only thing that gets you stretchered off an NFL/NBA game is a broken neck.

[Tek_XX]

it would also make the game more static, defenders wouldn't dare move foward.

Wouldn't this create more room for the offensive players to move?

[MannyIsGod]

Holy shit what a goal.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Goooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll llllllllllll!!!!!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

It was Joe Cole all over again! :lol

[polandprzem]

Who saw that who saw that?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???

[spurschick]

:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[polandprzem]

Not much time to tie a game Mexico

[Dre_7]

Not much time to tie a game Mexico

20 minutes.

[Tek_XX]

Is this still group play?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Not much time to tie a game Mexico
there still another extra time of 15 after this one

[TDMVPDPOY]

score plz

[spurschick]

2-1 Argentina

[MaNuMaNiAc]

wow, I have to say Mexico is playing better than ever

[rascal]

mexico is running out of gas.. They aren't getting any good shots on goal.

[polandprzem]

there still another extra time of 15 after this one

Yeah - I'm messed

I thought theyt are playing in sudden death then I thought the team who scores more in first 15 is a winner. Dammmit those changes and different rules in different turnaments :pctoss

[rascal]

Either way Germany beats either team.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, Zina put that one close.

[rascal]

I'm pulling for Mex because I don't think they will do it. I want the unexpected to happen.

[whottt]

Zina is the only guy for Mexico that seems to be capable of threatening Argentina.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I have a newfound respect for Mexico, amazing! Granted Argentina didn't play very well, at least not as well as we could have, but Mexico handed us our ass in that first period.

Mexico I applaud you! you were amazing

[MannyIsGod]

It took an amazing goal to beat them. That was flat out phenomenal. Mexico should be proud, they played a hell of a game.

[danyel]

Good game by Mexico, lucky goal for Argentina, it could have gone either way.

Mexico goes out with their heads up

[spurschick]

Mexico can hold it's head up high. They represented well.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Scaloni needs to get the fuck out! he's not worth the shoes he's playing in!

[polandprzem]

Isn't it Mexico what is causing a lot of troubles to the Latin soccer teams?

Why Argentina was playing so narrow?

[velik_m]

nice game.

[Phenomanul]

Congratulations on the win... so far it's one of the top 3 games of the tournament....

Damn.... what a goal.

[MannyIsGod]

I think it was the best game of the tournament so far with the best goal of the tourney so far. Germany and Argentina should be fucking sweet.

[MannyIsGod]

I will be pulling for the Manus!

[danyel]

Great another 90/120 mins of pure agony next week!

Great game, it will take more than that to get through Germany

[Phenomanul]

Bright spots (up'n coming players) for Mexico...

Andres Guardado... only 19 years old.
Carlos Salcido... played a flawless tourney as left defensive back.
Juan Osorio... the dude has speed...

And none of these guys play in the european leagues....

[polandprzem]

I think it was the best game of the tournament so far with the best goal of the tourney so far. Germany and Argentina should be fucking sweet.

Beacuse you got the emotions.

But take the emotions add the drama (some red cards ssome penalties). wow excitment you don't even know.
You can get hard on and stuff.......

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Mexico scared the living daylights out of me man! :lol up to that last goal, I was in sheer agony!

[Phenomanul]

Mexico scared the living daylights out of me man! :lol up to that last goal, I was in sheer agony!

I had them losing so it was just a matter of time.... If they had won... then I would have been surprised.

[polandprzem]

:lmao

[Phenomanul]

Kind of sucks Guardado got hurt so early in the second half... we lost speed in our midfield when that happened.

Of course nothing like what happened to Michael Owen... that one even hurt me.... what a shame.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Hegamboa, I think you have to give some credit to Lavolpe for putting together a team like this. If Mexico keeps playing like this... scary!

[Phenomanul]

Hegamboa, I think you have to give some credit to Lavolpe for putting together a team like this. If Mexico keeps playing like this... scary!

Now, imagine if Blanco had played....

It's hard to give credit to a coach who told the Argentine press a couple months ago that Mexico had no world class players...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Now, imagine if Blanco had played....

It's hard to give credit to a coach who told the Argentine press a couple months ago that Mexico had no world class players...
could I get the context of that quote? I believe you, I just want to see how the conversation went

[ALVAREZ6]

Wow.


That game was a disaster. Argentina is very lucky to have won that game, it could have gone either way.

They did so many stupid plays, it was incredible...at some points they just looked aweful, the defense was pathetic. I think Argentina's midfield was very weak. They are not gonna get past Germany playing like they did today, so with that said, they better fuckin step it up!!!

I am questiong Jose Pekerman in putting in Scaloni instead of Coloccini for the injured Burdisso....Scaloni was aweful, the fucker looks clueless and he made more mistakes than the Mexican team combined. Leave Coloccini, he played well against the Netherlands, and there's no point of bringing in some scrub that hasn't played in the World Cup yet for an elimination game.



I think Argentina should start Messi + Tevez, just to get quick goals. Those two guys are scoring machines, they will get you the goals. Not to take anything away from Crespo, but I like these guys better. Maybe Messi + Crespo, then Tevez as a last resort.

Messi played great today, you can just see how fuckin good that guy is and how good he will be. He will retire as a legend, mark my words, this guy is the complete striker.

Carlos Tevez played like an idiot today. He has crazy skills, but he is abusing them. He's playing as if he were AI in the NBA...he thinks he can get by everyone, and sometimes he can, but you gotta fuckin pass, or take the shot on goal earlier.

Is it me, or does Tevez always wait til the last moment to shoot, and ends up not getting a shot on goal at all???? He tries to penetrate all the way in when he has a clear shot... Whatever, I just hope he plays better vs. Germany, if he plays that is.


And thank God for Maxi Rodriguez, that goal was crazy. I was NOT expecting that.

[polandprzem]

fuck argentina those flopping bastardos

Are you just copying your phrases and pasteing them from one thread to another?

[polandprzem]

You've heard that some consequences will be waiting for the referees of the Australia- Croiatia game?

[Texas_Ranger]

Today games:
England - Ecuador 2-0
Portugal - Netherland 2-1

[spurschick]

A little fluff story to pass the time.

2006 FIFA WORLD CUP: 'You feel powerless in front of the telly!'

Tony Parker, professional basketball player

After training at INSEP in the Paris region, Tony started out as a professional with Paris Basket Racing (in which he is now the chief shareholder). In 2001, he penned a deal with San Antonio Spurs and set out to conquer the west of America. The first Frenchman to win the NBA title (in 2003 and 2005), the youngest first-choice playmaker in the NBA’s history, the first Frenchman selected for the All-Star Game this year… At only 24 years of age, Tony Parker is collecting one record after another. A bronze medallist with France at Euro 2005 in Serbia and Montenegro, he is the shining star of his national team.

Where did you watch the match?
I’m on holiday in Los Angeles at the moment, but I wouldn’t have missed the France-Togo game for anything in the world. As you can imagine, I was getting quite tense there in front of the television. The atmosphere was really electric. It’s a lot less stressful to be on the pitch than in front of the TV, as you feel so powerless. You just have to grin and bear it because everything’s out of your control. I was confident before the game, but when we missed so many chances during the first half, I was afraid that the same thing could continue right up to the final whistle. In the end, everything worked out fine and we’re through to the last sixteen. That’s what really counts.

Did the final score reflect the match you watched?
If we’d been a bit more clinical in the first half, we could have wrapped things up a lot earlier. But the lads never panicked. They controlled the match really well, and when they came back out after the interval, you could see that their desire was undiminished. So it was no real surprise when Patrick Vieira opened the scoring with a fine shot on the turn, followed by the second goal that clearly meant so much to my pal Thierry Henry. Vieira was quite rightly named Man of the Match as he was absolutely everywhere: winning the ball, starting off moves and getting on the end of them too. The entire French team should be proud of themselves, as they put in a very good all-round performance. Now, it’s time to start thinking about Spain. I’m confident about the game, as France have finally kick-started their World cup campaign.

From what you’ve seen of the tournament so far, which team has struck you as most impressive?
Argentina look awesome. They play really good football from a technical perspective, and they all seem to have great touch and individual ability. But I’m not writing off Germany either. Playing at home is a massive advantage, as the whole country is behind the team. Throughout World Cup history, we’ve seen how the host nation invariably goes quite far in the tournament. As for Brazil, they’re a team that’s growing in power and anyone who underestimates them will do so at their peril. With the likes of Ronaldhino, Robinho, Kaka, Ronaldo and Adriano in their side, they’re always going to be a force to be reckoned with. But as France are going to play them in the quarter-final, that will be the end of their tournament this time. (Laughs)

Who do you expect to see in the final four?
It’s impossible to pick out four teams at the moment, so I’ll mention Germany, Brazil, France, Argentina, Italy and England. As you can see, I’m not exactly a risk-taker. (Laughs)

How important is football to you?
Actually, I was a footballer before I took up basketball. I used to play up front, and although I gave it up quite early to concentrate on basketball, I remained a big football fan. As a European, that’s pretty much par for the course, as football is the number one sport. I moved to America five years ago, but I try to watch as many games as possible on television, and if there’s a game I’m interested in that’s not being shown, I go online to find out the result.

What club do you generally support and why?
I support two clubs: Arsenal and PSG. Why Arsenal? Because my friend Thierry Henry plays for them. I was lucky enough to meet him a few years ago and we hit it off straight away. We both quickly realised that we have the same way of looking at tings, so we understand each other effortlessly. Whenever my schedule allows it, I head off to London to watch “Titi” play. I always find a way of getting to at least one match over the summer, although it’s going to be a bit trickier this year as I’ll be involved in the Basketball World Championship in Japan in August. Also, I’ve got a special place in my heart for PSG as it’s the club I grew up with. When I was playing for Paris Basket Racing, I used to go to the Parc des Princes all the time. I have to say, I’m a bit nostalgic for our glory days of the 90s, but I’m hopeful our time will come again.

Is there a particular charity you support?
I support several causes, including my friend Boris Diaw’s association. All the information will soon be on my website, www.tp9.net./

Your projects?
I’m currently on holiday relaxing before heading off to Japan in August with les Bleus for our own World Cup, the FIBA World Championship which starts on 19 August.

[NASpurs]

England dominating so far in the first 10 minutes

[NASpurs]

He Fucking Missed It!!!!! Nooooooo!

[polandprzem]

He Fucking Missed It!!!!! Nooooooo!

hehe

[NASpurs]

Spanish color guy is complaining about the refs... I'm guessing he's from Ecuador :lol

[NASpurs]

He's like "All we're asking is for the rules to be fair on both sides!"

[polandprzem]

He's like "All we're asking is for the rules to be fair on both sides!"

hahaha

What a jerk:)



Hey if there was a game between England and polandprzem today, I'm sure there would be a tie after 1st half.


Jeezz England playing like shit

[polandprzem]

That was not a World Cup game

Kids in the backyard are playing better then those morons

[velik_m]

Great freekick by Becham. Ecuador really fell apart after that, no sense of urgency whatsoever.

[NASpurs]

Okay then.

Are you agreeding to the rules I posted?

Well I win when England wins with 2 or more goals
You win when Ecuador wins this game or they will be tied after 90minutes of play.
If ENG wins it by one goal then we even - nobody wins this bet.

Then we have a dealhahaahaha

[danyel]

Boring game. England forgot how to play football

[polandprzem]

hahaahaha


What is so funny?

We must to make another bet.

How do you feel about Brazil chances?

[NASpurs]

What is so funny?

We must to make another bet.

How do you feel about Brazil chances?ehhh... I think I must stop now with the betting. I feel like I got lucky today :lol

[Old School Chic]

What is so funny?

We must to make another bet.

How do you feel about Brazil chances?


All that vbookie cash is making you crazy :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Shitty game.







I hope Portugal vs. Holland will be better.

[alamo50]

Let's rock and roll!

:clap

[polandprzem]

All that vbookie cash is making you crazy :lol
MONEY !! :devil MONEY!!! :devil MONEY!!! :devil MONEY!!! :devil MONEY!!! :devil MONEY!!! :devil MONEY!!!



When to do the final push?

[velik_m]

Let's rock and roll!

:clap

GO HOLLAND!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Holland 2-0 over Portugal. Portugal hasn't impressed me.

[Bob Lanier]

This damn Russian went to the Bavetta school of officiating.

[David@SLCC]

Costinha..what an idiot!

[danyel]

I think the ref is doing fine...

[MannyIsGod]

You think the ref is doing fine? You must be watching a different game. Dude is lucky Costihina was an idiot later on in the half, because he should have been gone earlier. On top of that, the Dutch got robbed on a no call in the box. That was pretty godamn obvious as well.

On the flipside, the Dutch have ruined 2 or 3 awesome chances. Kuyt isn't impressive in the least. And they're lucky to be down only 1-0 after that incredible save.

[Bob Lanier]

Sorry, Dan Crawford school of officiating.

As Manny says, the Dutch are lucky to still be in this game, but Portugal's not playing all that great either.

[NASpurs]

Fuck the Netherlands, dirty ass bastards. Not only are they diving at any little thing, they took out Ronaldo by beating the shit out of him.

Gotta love the emotion he was displaying when they took him out :tu

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, but the Netherlands have been on the raw end of a bunch of calls man. A lot. That kick to the chest in the box and no call? Wow.

[polandprzem]

On top of that, the Dutch got robbed on a no call in the box. That was pretty godamn obvious as well.

Pretty obvious, but after the whistle. In that moment he might have not seen this.

Good officiating so far

STFU already

Good game

[NASpurs]

I'm guessing that's payback for the shit they're doing on the other side of the pitch.

[Phenomanul]

could I get the context of that quote? I believe you, I just want to see how the conversation went


I saw it on TV... I was like what????? I don't know if it was ever written down... it did, however, raise hell in Mexico...

Well, despite the fact that we only have one starter in Europe, I believe Mexico showed it could play at 'their' level without the need of carrying 'European' stars....

[MannyIsGod]

Pretty obvious, but after the whistle. In that moment he might have not seen this.

Good officiating so far

STFU already

Good gameKiss my ass. The officiating hasn't been good. If you want the bitching to stop, it will when the officials become consistent. They've been horrible during this WC and everyone realizes it but you'd just rather ignore it.