Rasho vs. Nazr

**Manufan909** · 02-24-2009

I didn't follow the Spurs all that much back when they were on the team, so I was just curious how everyone thought they compared. I'm talking overall, overall D, overall O, help D, one-on-one D, passing skills, clogging the lane. Chem with Timmy, all of it.

I personally remember Rasho in a more favorable light, but I could be wrong.

**xellos88330** · 02-24-2009

I like Rasho more than Nazr. Rasho could at least catch better than Nazr under the basket. Should be an easy basket, but a bobbled pass turns into a turnover. I do not recall that happening as much with Rasho.

**raspsa** · 02-24-2009

Rasho was a more skilled player offensively, defensively he knew how to play team defense. Once in a while he'd manage a block or two. He had the tools, he just wasn't aggressive enough, specially on the offense.
Nazr, I'd cringe whenever he had the ball in the paint. The best thing he could do was use his strength to get rebounds.

**BG_Spurs_Fan** · 02-24-2009

For 2/3 months Nazr was better than Rasho has ever been and all his weaknesses were neglected by an inspired play. Then he faded away.

**mystargtr34** · 02-24-2009

Offense - Tie. Nazr, when he actually caught the ball, could finish better than Rasho around the basket, and was more aggressive, probably too aggressive for his skillset. Rasho was more skilled but didnt use it much.

Rebounding - Nazr. More agile, athletic and aggressive on the boards.

Defense - Rasho. He was a better help defender. One-on-one defense is probably a tie though. Nazr could hold his own.

Overall - Rasho. Just. Better IQ, didnt miss rotations, and was a pretty good passer when given the opportunity. Also defended Yao better than anyother C in the L. Nazr doesnt look like much now, hes fallen off quite a bit.

**urunobili** · 02-24-2009

Nazr is more aggresive... but for the team's current necessity... Rasho>Nazr

**Spurs Brazil** · 02-24-2009

Narz played great starting in that back to back OT wins Clippers and Warriors, when TD was out because of the uncle, until game 7 of the Finals. It was a very good run and I thought we had our starting center for the next 4-5 years.
But then in 06 he misses a lot of time in training camp and was up and down the whole season, and in the 1st game of the playoffs against the Kings the game was over and he made a triple. That was the end for him

**BG_Spurs_Fan** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil

... and in the 1st game of the playoffs against the Kings the game was over and he made a triple. That was the end for him

Funny as , Pop chewed his ass, I couldn't believe it.We were up 40 or something by that time.

**Taco** · 02-24-2009

**Kamnik** · 02-24-2009

At this point... Rasho without a doubt.

He always needed more just a little more confidence and he could be a badass starting center in the NBA. He has all the skills (still does). He is just too timid.

**Blake** · 02-24-2009

this thread brings a tear to my eye

**SenorSpur** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil

Narz played great starting in that back to back OT wins Clippers and Warriors, when TD was out because of the uncle, until game 7 of the Finals. It was a very good run and I thought we had our starting center for the next 4-5 years.
But then in 06 he misses a lot of time in training camp and was up and down the whole season, and in the 1st game of the playoffs against the Kings the game was over and he made a triple. That was the end for him

I did too. I remember when Nazr went for 30 and 15 in a road game versus the Suns. There's no doubt that he was a difference-maker throughout that grueling NBA Finals series versus the Pistons - especially Game 7.

With his energy, hustle and rebounding, I could've lived with his bad hands. However, he never seemed to grasp the defensive rotations and frustrated coaches and teammates because he always seemed to be out of position.

Rasho was a solid rebounder, shotblocker and post defender. He could score when he was open. His problem was he rarely played aggressively. It just wasn't his nature.

**Biggems** · 02-24-2009

Nazr is the only guy I ever saw airball a dunk, and he did it twice.........both times in the Finals against Detroit.

I would definitely take the Rashostein monster back before Nazr.

**ploto** · 02-24-2009

Not sure of the point of the thread. Nazr is definitely not going to be bought out.

**Kobayagi** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by Biggems

Nazr is the only guy I ever saw airball a dunk,

lol how does that look?

**Texas_Ranger** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by Kobayagi

lol how does that look?

**MI21** · 02-24-2009

Wow, this is like a time machine. 2005/2006, is that you?

Nazr was a beast on the offensive boards, put up some points and was able to block shots as a Spur (never had high bpg on other teams). Rasho was a much better overall defender, less prone to mistakes and mental blocks and a better passer.

Teams had to pay much more attention to Nazr when defending the Spurs but they would worry about Rasho more when trying to score.

I feel Nazr's contributions are a little bit forgotten during the 2005 le run. At that time, I felt that Nazr was better, and gave the Spurs a bit of toughness and a bit more at ude and agressiveness offensively... but right now, Rasho has him beat, and would gladly accept him back on the team at a cheap rate.

**SenorSpur** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by MI21

Wow, this is like a time machine. 2005/2006, is that you?

Nazr was a beast on the offensive boards, put up some points and was able to block shots as a Spur (never had high bpg on other teams). Rasho was a much better overall defender, less prone to mistakes and mental blocks and a better passer.

Teams had to pay much more attention to Nazr when defending the Spurs but they would worry about Rasho more when trying to score.

I feel Nazr's contributions are a little bit forgotten during the 2005 le run. At that time, I felt that Nazr was better, and gave the Spurs a bit of toughness and a bit more at ude and agressiveness offensively... but right now, Rasho has him beat, and would gladly accept him back on the team at a cheap rate.

Amen!

That was the strange thing about Nazr. He had the worse hands this side of Malik Rose. Absolute brick hands. But he was an absolute terror on the offensive glass.

**Agloco** · 02-24-2009

Rasho>Nazr

Nazr has the worst hands in the league. I don't think there was a single pass he didn't fumble around with or just straight up lose when the ball came his way........

Pus Rasho has a nice jumper and blocks a decent amount as well.

**velik_m** · 02-24-2009

**Dex** · 02-24-2009

I would take Rasho for the long haul. Despite his complete lack of offensive aggressiveness, he was the most solid defender we've had inside since Robinson left. His rotational defense and positioning were always outstanding.

Nazr had a great run in '05, but I think was a prime example a player that was intellectually up to par with the Spurs system. As soon as he started to overthink things, it went downhill from there. That, and he couldn't catch a cold.

**Old School 44** · 02-24-2009

Yes...as others have pointed out Nazr had terrible hands on offense. He was more athletic and quicker than Rasho (that's not saying much). I'd go with Rasho though, he made less mistakes on defense and had a better overall offensive game.

**DUNCANownsKOBE2** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I did too. I remember when Nazr went for 30 and 15 in a road game versus the Suns. There's no doubt that he was a difference-maker throughout that grueling NBA Finals series versus the Pistons - especially Game 7.

I remember that 30 point game for Nazr but the Suns love giving career high nights to the C playing next to Duncan, that's always been the case. I remember Oberto having a 22 point game against us two years ago.

But yeah when I watched Nazr in 2004-2005 I thought he'd be a decent Robinson replacement. Of course I knew he wasn't as good as Robinson but he could attack the offensive boards extremely well and found ways to score when matched up against a smaller player. He was a huge factor in the 2005 Suns series.

But like a lot of SA role players, another team offers them a huge longterm contract that SA doesn't even think about matching and their career falters.

**BG_Spurs_Fan** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

I remember that 30 point game for Nazr but the Suns love giving career high nights to the C playing next to Duncan, that's always been the case. I remember Oberto having a 22 point game against us two years ago.

Didn't Oberto have his points on 11/11 shooting or something similarly ridiculous?

**TDomination** · 02-24-2009

I never thought I'd see a Rasho vs Nazr thread again.

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