Breaking Bad

[DAF86]

It's because he needed access to Todd's place. He knew he had stashed money there.

Nah, they had already gone to Todd's apartment, he knew the adress and he knew the money was on the books at that time. He could have easily killed Todd, take the car, drive to his house, grab the money and get the fuck out.

The problem is, Jesse was all kinds of fucked up at that point. He was scared and not all there mentally. Heck, he might have even developed a mild case of stockholm syndrome. After being in that cage for so long, going out, dressing up, seeing the sun, getting some air must have felt great for him and he was scared to fuck that up. If he tried to kill Todd and he failed, the backlash would have been 10 times tougher than what he had been through up to that point.

Also, I disagree with Spurtacular saying that the scene didn't stay true to Jesse's character. How many times did we see Jesse struggling to shoot or kill someone? He didn't do it to Walt after their relationship was beying repair, he didn't do it to Gus, heck he didn't even do it to those guys that killed his girlfriend's little brother despite showing up in front of them with a gun.

The only time he killed somebody, up to that point, was to save someone else's life, and after doing it, he was never the same.

[Xevious]

^ Yeah that scene didn't really ring true for me either. In fact the entire El Camino movie (already said this earlier) was unnecessary IMO. It just felt like a "let's get the gang all back together and have some fun" type of thing. Jesse's escape left a little ambiguous was just fine.

[spurraider21]

So I finally watched this (quarantine making me catch up with all must see screen fiction). The show it's obviously great but pretty much everyone agrees on this, so, what's the fun of bringing that up?

Instead, what I want to point out, is that I'm not sure all that on screen crying by baby Holly White doesn't fall under the category of child abuse, tbh. There's one scene in particular where she looked straight up scared for life terrified, tbh.
gifted child actor tbh

[DAF86]

What the fu...whatchu mean it's on par with The Wire? Let's see it go 5 seasons of consistent ass kicking episodes before we start talking like that.

I'd be intrigued if I hadn't read an article about it with a death *spoiler* awhile back. But I did, so I'm not.

5 seasons, plus a movie, plus a spin-off, bitch!!

[DAF86]

gifted child actor tbh

i-4qDsnLkKQ

GOAT baby scene.

[spurraider21]

i-4qDsnLkKQ

GOAT baby scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_lCmnfw8uU

[Spurtacular]

Nah, they had already gone to Todd's apartment, he knew the adress and he knew the money was on the books at that time. He could have easily killed Todd, take the car, drive to his house, grab the money and get the fuck out.

The problem is, Jesse was all kinds of fucked up at that point. He was scared and not all there mentally. Heck, he might have even developed a mild case of stockholm syndrome. After being in that cage for so long, going out, dressing up, seeing the sun, getting some air must have felt great for him and he was scared to fuck that up. If he tried to kill Todd and he failed, the backlash would have been 10 times tougher than what he had been through up to that point.

Also, I disagree with Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) saying that the scene didn't stay true to Jesse's character. How many times did we see Jesse struggling to shoot or kill someone? He didn't do it to Walt after their relationship was beying repair, he didn't do it to Gus, heck he didn't even do it to those guys that killed his girlfriend's little brother despite showing up in front of them with a gun.

The only time he killed somebody, up to that point, was to save someone else's life, and after doing it, he was never the same.

I no longer remember what all I said. But Jessie knew Todd was a psychopath who had killed the kid. He would've been thinking daily of ways to kill him if nothing else. The hesitation would not have been there. The Stockholm Syndrome was a terrible calculation by Vince Gil.

[DAF86]

Ok. I've had this discussion with a few people now, and I might as well throw it out here, too. Gus' "friend" that got shot by the Mexican cartel leader...was that Gus' lover?

Of course it was. Gus' mild manmerisms always screamed gay even before his "friend" was presented.

[DAF86]

I think the finale could have been better if, instead of catching an unlikely bullet and dying, Walt would have just been caught by the police (actually, he just turns himself in by pacefully waiting in the lab; maybe even after making one last batch). Cut to 6 months later, Walt dying on a hospital bed from cancer and his family (with a full blown walking, talking Holly) finally forgiving him and giving him a loving sendoff.

I think it would have been better for a couple of reasons:

1st) it gives Walt an unlikely, yet completely realistic and plausible, "happy" ending of sorts. He could even make clear that he never trully killed Hank.

2nd) it ends how it all started, with cancer. Not with some random ass, cliche bullet.

[DAF86]

Regarding the fly epidose (sorry, I'm late to all the BB parties) it entertained me, but only because it kept me hooked expecting something that never happened: I was anxiously rooting for Walt to not fuck something up in the lab. The way the episode was going it was obvious that was the only way for something trully relevant to happen. But it didn't end up happening.

So, yeah, at the end of the day, even though the episode was entertainig for me, I have to side with the people that put that episode among the bottom half of the bunch. I mean, the episode was literally planned to be a money saving filler. They themselves acknowledged this fact. People saying it was "genius" or giving it more importance than it really has are probably too busy admiring themselves in the mirror, while they suck on their own genitals, to realize that that episode could be erased from the face of the Earth and not a signle thing from the show would be missing.

"Oh, but the fly is a beatiful kafkaesque representation of Walt's immense guilt, which prompted him to blah, blah, blah".

Get the fuck out with that shit. We didn't need a fly to realize any of the shit we already figured out on other episodes. The episode it's fine for what it is: a budget leveling bottle episode, but to try to pretend like it's one of the best in the show and a piece of art is some douchey pretentious bullshit.

[Spurtacular]

Regarding the fly epidose (sorry, I'm late to all the BB parties) it entertained me, but only because it kept me hooked expecting something that never happened: I was anxiously rooting for Walt to not fuck something up in the lab. The way the episode was going it was obvious that was the only way for something trully relevant to happen. But it didn't end up happening.

So, yeah, at the end of the day, even though the episode was entertainig for me, I have to side with the people that put that episode among the bottom half of the bunch. I mean, the episode was literally planned to be a money saving filler. They themselves acknowledged this fact. People saying it was "genius" or giving it more importance than it really has are probably too busy admiring themselves in the mirror, while they suck on their own genitals, to realize that that episode could be erased from the face of the Earth and not a signle thing from the show would be missing.

"Oh, but the fly is a beatiful kafkaesque representation of Walt's immense guilt, which prompted him to blah, blah, blah".

Get the fuck out with that shit. We didn't need a fly to realize any of the shit we already figured out on other episodes. The episode it's fine for what it is: a budget leveling bottle episode, but to try to pretend like it's one of the best in the show and a piece of art is some douchey pretentious bullshit.

It was a budget episode. Some people call it brilliant; I don't tend to see it that way. But w/o it we wouldn't have this classic line:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg-_vSWjPOU

[leemajors]

Regarding the fly epidose (sorry, I'm late to all the BB parties) it entertained me, but only because it kept me hooked expecting something that never happened: I was anxiously rooting for Walt to not fuck something up in the lab. The way the episode was going it was obvious that was the only way for something trully relevant to happen. But it didn't end up happening.

So, yeah, at the end of the day, even though the episode was entertainig for me, I have to side with the people that put that episode among the bottom half of the bunch. I mean, the episode was literally planned to be a money saving filler. They themselves acknowledged this fact. People saying it was "genius" or giving it more importance than it really has are probably too busy admiring themselves in the mirror, while they suck on their own genitals, to realize that that episode could be erased from the face of the Earth and not a signle thing from the show would be missing.

"Oh, but the fly is a beatiful kafkaesque representation of Walt's immense guilt, which prompted him to blah, blah, blah".

Get the fuck out with that shit. We didn't need a fly to realize any of the shit we already figured out on other episodes. The episode it's fine for what it is: a budget leveling bottle episode, but to try to pretend like it's one of the best in the show and a piece of art is some douchey pretentious bullshit.

I didn't like it would have sufficed.

[Reck]

Of course it was. Gus' mild manmerisms always screamed gay even before his "friend" was presented.

Gus’s mannerisms are that of an uptight neat freak. I think he does what he has to. He exploits the people he needs.

Did it with Max (although I think this one was legit friendship) Gale and that German dude that owns the fried chicken joint franchise.

You should watch Better Caul Saul, tbh. He could still be gay, but nothing on camera can actually confirm that.

[DAF86]

I didn't like it would have sufficed.

But I did like it. I just wanted to call out all the pretentious douchebags, tbh.

[spurraider21]

I think the finale could have been better if, instead of catching an unlikely bullet and dying, Walt would have just been caught by the police (actually, he just turns himself in by pacefully waiting in the lab; maybe even after making one last batch). Cut to 6 months later, Walt dying on a hospital bed from cancer and his family (with a full blown walking, talking Holly) finally forgiving him and giving him a loving sendoff.

I think it would have been better for a couple of reasons:

1st) it gives Walt an unlikely, yet completely realistic and plausible, "happy" ending of sorts. He could even make clear that he never trully killed Hank.

2nd) it ends how it all started, with cancer. Not with some random ass, cliche bullet.
he was off his chemo, hair growing. dude was probably close to death anyway

[spurraider21]

i also wasn't a big fan of The Fly, though a delirious Walt talking about Jane was pretty good

[Spurtacular]

I saw a really good video on The Fly. Ironically, I don't remember if it was a stand-alone video or part of a larger (season) review; and I'm not finding it

So, this will have to suffice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGZuDYSa-A

[DAF86]

Gus’s mannerisms are that of an uptight neat freak. I think he does what he has to. He exploits the people he needs.

Did it with Max (although I think this one was legit friendship) Gale and that German dude that owns the fried chicken joint franchise.

You should watch Better Caul Saul, tbh. He could still be gay, but nothing on camera can actually confirm that.

Currently on the midpart of season 1. He has a female love interest, tbh. Also, a recurring gag in BB was Saul sexually harrassing his secretary; AND once he said he was married more than once. That's plenty of reasons to assume that he isn't gay, tbh. :lol

Edit: wait, I just realized you might be talking about Gus on Better Call Saul.

[Spurtacular]

I saw a really good video on The Fly. Ironically, I don't remember if it was a stand-alone video or part of a larger (season) review; and I'm not finding it

So, this will have to suffice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGZuDYSa-A

It may have been this video. A few minutes at the end he overviews 'The Fly' episode. I also like that he calls out Hank. Most people actually like him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EOmNXjvBNQ

[Reck]

It may have been this video. A few minutes at the end he overviews 'The Fly' episode. I also like that he calls out Hank. Most people actually like him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EOmNXjvBNQ

Hank is the comic relife dude. He's the real life ST every day poster.

[DAF86]

The worst thing in Breaking Bad are the Spanish accents. In some cases (Gus Fring and Tío Salamanca) because you can easily tell they don't speak Spanish at all. It's clear they went with phonetic imitation for those actors but it doesn't work at all. You can't understand shit what they are trying to say.

And in other cases, because, even though they got actors that do speak Spanish, the accents of those guys didn't match the accent of the country they were from in the series (case in point, Gus Fring's partner/lover). That was clearly a Central American Spanish speaker pretending to be Chilean. Those two accents don't resamble each other at all. Chilean Spanish is probably the most easily distinguishable Latin American accent of them all. No other Spanish accent resembles it.

Also, the % of black people in Chile is 0.01%. Let's just say hiring a black dude to play a Chilean wasn't the most realistic of scenarios. Hiring a black person to play a German or Swedish guy would have been 100 times more realistic.

I know that for most of you this fact didn't matter at all, but for me those Spanish speaking scenes were a major suspension of disbelief killer. For a series with so many Hispanic references (and that paid so much attention to detail) you would think they could have done a better job hiring people that could actually speak the language.

[DAF86]

Gus’s mannerisms are that of an uptight neat freak. I think he does what he has to. He exploits the people he needs.

Did it with Max (although I think this one was legit friendship) Gale and that German dude that owns the fried chicken joint franchise.

You should watch Better Caul Saul, tbh. He could still be gay, but nothing on camera can actually confirm that.

Just finished episode 1 of season 5. Eduardo, Hector's cousin, said "noviecito" (boyfriend) to refer to Gus' friend. So, apparently, even for the character themselves, Gus appeared gay.

[DAF86]

Finished season 5 of "Better Call Saul". Gotta be honest, first 4 season were kinda slow for my taste (strange, because usually I have no problem with slow paced drama). Season 5 is pretty cool though. Season 5 is exactly how I thought the whole series would be (not so much the drug dealing shootings and all that shit that we already saw in BB; but I mean the shady law tactics that Jimmy pulls to win cases. That's what I thought the series would be about from day 1).

[Spurtacular]

BB was great. El Camino was good too, even.

But Aaron Paul making it pretty easy to not give a sh** about him going forward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbydhzQUzU

[Spurtacular]

Hank is the comic relife dude. He's the real life ST every day poster.

Sure, he did that role. But he was also basically the asshole god complex cop who people are complaining about.

[Reck]

Sure, he did that role. But he was also basically the asshole god complex cop who people are complaining about.

Was also incredibly racist.

Good old Hank would not have survived in today’s climate as a cop.

[Spurtacular]

Was also incredibly racist.

Good old Hank would not have survived in today’s climate as a cop.

If you asked a snowflake, maybe.

[Reck]

If you asked a snowflake, maybe.

Seriously? You’re going to make this a point of contention? Lol

[Spurtacular]

Seriously? You’re going to make this a point of contention? Lol

Why is he incredibly racist? Because he told racist jokes to his Mexican partner who he'd take a bullet for?

I should ask the same question of you.

[Reck]

Why is he incredibly racist? Because he told racist jokes to his Mexican partner who he'd take a bullet for?

I should ask the same question of you.

That and the lack of indifference and disregard of the minority people he came in contact with. Examples are Tortuga and his own colleagues when he got transferred to the Texan division who were mostly Hispanic.

[DAF86]

Was also incredibly racist.

Good old Hank would not have survived in today’s climate as a cop.

His best friend was a beaner, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

That and the lack of indifference and disregard of the minority people he came in contact with. Examples are Tortuga and his own colleagues when he got transferred to the Texan division who were mostly Hispanic.

:lol "That (and)"; :lol Fucking snowflake, wreck

The El Paso people were fucking with him hardcore FFS. If anyone was racist, it was them.
In fact, in Spanish they were saying fuck this whitey right in front of him FFS.

[spurraider21]

Hank is the comic relife dude. He's the real life ST every day poster.
Jesus Christ, Marie, they’re minerals.

[Millennial_Messiah]

2013 was quite a year. Bad, good, bad, very bad, memorable, nervous, bad, 6, game 7 (bad), boring, interesting, bad, good, sex, bad, good, bad/strange, good... Things happened that year.

[Xevious]

2013 was quite a year. Bad, good, bad, very bad, memorable, nervous, bad, 6, game 7 (bad), boring, interesting, bad, good, sex, bad, good, bad/strange, good... Things happened that year.
Thing about it is, nobody gives a shit.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADN9mhG9Xtw

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54zE3WRyxBc

[SpursforSix]

2013 was quite a year. Bad, good, bad, very bad, memorable, nervous, bad, 6, game 7 (bad), boring, interesting, bad, good, sex, bad, good, bad/strange, good... Things happened that year.

Shit...I'll always remember 2013. Before the NBA season started, I put big money on the Spurs to win the Western Conference. I can't remember but it was like 3 to 1 or something. Maybe even 4 or 5 to 1. Anyway, I ended up with about $9000 which I rolled over onto the Spurs winning the championship. So by 4th quarter, not only am I going to have a 5th ring, but I'm going to have a pretty good wad of cash. I'm watching the game with some friends who were all Mavs fans. But they were all rooting for the Spurs as well. We're pretty drunk by the 4th quarter. I go to take a pee at a time out. I'm standing there, smiling like one does at the toilet when one's drunk and in a good mood. Ready to get back out and see the Spurs take #5. I go back to the living room where we all were but no one is there. I didn't think much of it because I figured they went outside or something. Which in hindsight was weird because it was about 10 people. After a few minutes, no one comes back in. I walk out to the backyard and still don't see anyone. Until I glance over at the pool and see something that looked out of place. I walk over to the pool and see everyone floating around. Pretty quickly, I realize that some of them are face down. I end up going to the edge and poking my buddy with my foot but he doesn't move. As I look around, they all seem totally dead. So I'm totally freaked out. By the time I get inside, the game is over and somehow the Spurs lost the game. I grab a few bottles of the liquor and go home.
Anyway, that will always stick with me.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Shit...I'll always remember 2013. Before the NBA season started, I put big money on the Spurs to win the Western Conference. I can't remember but it was like 3 to 1 or something. Maybe even 4 or 5 to 1. Anyway, I ended up with about $9000 which I rolled over onto the Spurs winning the championship. So by 4th quarter, not only am I going to have a 5th ring, but I'm going to have a pretty good wad of cash. I'm watching the game with some friends who were all Mavs fans. But they were all rooting for the Spurs as well. We're pretty drunk by the 4th quarter. I go to take a pee at a time out. I'm standing there, smiling like one does at the toilet when one's drunk and in a good mood. Ready to get back out and see the Spurs take #5. I go back to the living room where we all were but no one is there. I didn't think much of it because I figured they went outside or something. Which in hindsight was weird because it was about 10 people. After a few minutes, no one comes back in. I walk out to the backyard and still don't see anyone. Until I glance over at the pool and see something that looked out of place. I walk over to the pool and see everyone floating around. Pretty quickly, I realize that some of them are face down. I end up going to the edge and poking my buddy with my foot but he doesn't move. As I look around, they all seem totally dead. So I'm totally freaked out. By the time I get inside, the game is over and somehow the Spurs lost the game. I grab a few bottles of the liquor and go home.
Anyway, that will always stick with me.

Yikes. :lol

My story was that my mom and grandmother were at Walmart shopping and semi-watching the game from the electronics department there while I was at home, about to jump for absolute joy after all the traumatic failures where the Spurs had come so very close and lost, especially the past year in 2012. It was right after my graduation from high school and it was the start of the summer before I was to take off to college. It was the perfect ending to my childhood. Spurs up 14. Timmy kicking ass & he's probably gonna retire tonight on top as well. Then the hated Heatles come all the way back in the 4th, because Gary Neal happened, and some sorry old white guy hit a 3 while missing a shoe... and they roar back to take a lead of their own. Parker ties it back up with a miracle 3 late in the shot clock. Then Parker drives to the hoop and puts the Spurs back on top... Spurs get some clutch stops, and lead 94-89 with 28.3 seconds to go.

28.3 seconds, until the greatest moment of my life, and the most perfect and epic way to cap off my childhood, just before I go to college.

But........ there were still 28.3 seconds left.

All that was needed, was a stop, and a rebound, and no Tracy McGrady-style heroics to follow.

One. Stop.

One.

I could smell it.

Tim Duncan's career was to be 100% fulfilled, and immortalized into sports history.

Just. One. Stop.

Please.

:cry

The night ended in me completely destroying the $900 antique office armoire in my room. With my foot.

I would never be the same.

[spurraider21]

His best friend was a beaner, tbh.
:lol "i have a black friend!"

[DAF86]

:lol "i have a black friend!"

He didn't say "I have beaner friend", he just had it. He liked hanging out with him and cared for him. You could see it in the show, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Popped into my feed. Never seen it before. Good crossover clip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22mFl_pDaVE