Breaking Bad

[AnthonyM]

So Jesse thinks Walt used the ricin to poison Brock? I thought everyone knew it wasn't ricin. The end of season 4 is the camera zooming in on that plant in Walt's backyard, right?

No, Jesse knows Walt poisoned Brock with Lily of the Valley now. Huell took the cigarette so that Jesse would believe the ricin was gone, allowing Walt to get Jesse believe that Gus poisoned Brock. That's how Walt got him on his side at the end of season 4. Jesse now knows all of that.

[Darius McCrary]

Yep. Cuz Jesse asked the hospital if Ricin was detected and it wasn't. He knows Walt manipulated and played him, like he was complaining about earlier in the episode.

[Bender]

CS: In tonights episode, Jesse just connected the dots as previously mentioned above. He is mad about being manipulated... ricin or lotv... no matter, he was completely manipulated back then...

edit: beat by Darius!

[CubanSucks]

No, Jesse knows Walt poisoned Brock with Lily of the Valley now. Huell took the cigarette so that Jesse would believe the ricin was gone, allowing Walt to get Jesse believe that Gus poisoned Brock. That's how Walt got him on his side at the end of season 4. Jesse now knows all of that.

And so Huell put the cigs back in his pocket?

[Darius McCrary]

And so Huell put the cigs back in his pocket?
You're overthinking it

[AnthonyM]

And so Huell put the cigs back in his pocket?

Yeah. In the episode where it happens, Jesse walks into Saul's building and Huell frisks him (gets the pack of cigarette) before he enters the office. Jesse and Saul talk for a while and Jesse comes back out of the office and goes with Huell somewhere, but I forget where. It's assumed Huell puts the pack back in Jesse's pocket then (sans Ricin cigarette). Walt later puts the cigarette in the Roomba in Season 5, saying Jesse just misplaced it.

EDIT: The ricin cigarette placed in the Roomba was fake though. I think there was salt in the vial. Obviously, the real ricin vial is in Walt's house, behind the electrical outlet plate thing.

[CubanSucks]

Yeah. In the episode where it happens, Jesse walks into Saul's building and Huell frisks him (gets the pack of cigarette) before he enters the office. Jesse and Saul talk for a while and Jesse comes back out of the office and goes with Huell somewhere, but I forget where. It's assumed Huell puts the pack back in Jesse's pocket then (sans Ricin cigarette). Walt later puts the cigarette in the Roomba in Season 5, saying Jesse just misplaced it.

Why would Huell possibly do that and why would he even still have them? Also, Jesse figures it all out within seconds because he figured Huell picked his weed?

[AnthonyM]

If you need this much explaining, it's probably best if you just go re-watch season 4.

[ColinB]

Is CubanSucks trolling? No one who has watched this whole series can truly be that dense.

[CubanSucks]

If you need this much explaining, it's probably best if you just go re-watch season 4.

This is the first time I've ever taken more than a few seconds to put my own confusion to rest. Obviously I'm just missing one little thing.

[redzero]

Why does everything have to end in shit? Fuck this homosexual planet.

[CubanSucks]

Why would Huell possibly do that and why would he even still have them? Also, Jesse figures it all out within seconds because he figured Huell picked his weed?

Someone please answer this.

[ColinB]

No one probably knows what you even mean by "still have them"?

[Bender]

Someone please answer this.
are you thinking that the pack of cigs replaced tonight is the same pack as lifted in season 3? no. Just any old pack of cigs tonight. Jesse just figured out he was manipulated way back then, since tonight he found out Huell is a pickpocket.

[CubanSucks]

are you thinking that the pack of cigs replaced tonight is the same pack as lifted in season 3? no. Just any old pack of cigs tonight. Jesse just figured out he was manipulated way back then, since tonight he found out Huell is a pickpocket.

OHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I get it now. I guess I just think it's a huge stretch to believe Jesse figured it out right then especially considering his mind was 100% on getting ready to begin a new life atm

[Fpoonsie]

maybe the best episode yet

Honestly, with the exception of the 2nd to last ep of Ssn 3, I might concur.

That scene where Walt speeds up the to the car wash, scampers like a mad man up to the door, and then immediately cools off to walk in to see Skylar is definitely in my top 5 moments of this series. Fucking hilarious.

[Phillip]

however, that box of cigarettes that Jesse pulled out... were they cigs that he already had, or did Huell replace his weed with a box of cigarettes? im thinking that they were already his own box. however, if it was actually huell replacing the weed with cigarettes... makes me wonder if Saul intentionally did this to get Jesse to figure Walt out, and has some kind of unknown plot in place that he has put together?

[CubanSucks]

OHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I get it now. I guess I just think it's a huge stretch to believe Jesse figured it out right then especially considering his mind was 100% on getting ready to begin a new life atm

Does no one agree with me here?

[baseline bum]

Oh man, that DVD was brilliant. This series is shaping up to have a better ending than The Wire and maybe even as good as The Sopranos.

[CubanSucks]

Oh man, that DVD was brilliant. This series is shaping up to have a better ending than The Wire and maybe even as good as The Sopranos.

Even for a guy who's killed people that vid was brutal and cold as ice. And the fact that Skylar recorded it was crazy

[Fpoonsie]

Oh man, that DVD was brilliant. This series is shaping up to have a better ending than The Wire and maybe even as good as The Sopranos.

It really was. Not even for a second did I envision that tape going that way/him making that movie. Genius.

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm having trouble buying that Hank thinks Walt can pin the drug thing on him. Hank has to know that he's as clean as can be and there's no money trail leading to him. The only caveat is that maybe Walt has already planted some money on him somewhere. Otherwise, I don't see that it's a valid threat. Where's all the money that a drug lord should have. And why would Walt have had to pay the $177 k for the hospital bills?

[exstatic]

The car was supposed to dispose of the body. Saul calls Walt to tell him the plan failed and he goes to get the gun from soda machine

Jesse gonna burn down walts house now and spray paint heiseinberg on the wall

I don't agree. Saul wouldn't have had such a shit fit about the dope if it were a hit.

[exstatic]

I'm having trouble buying that Hank thinks Walt can pin the drug thing on him. Hank has to know that he's as clean as can be and there's no money trail leading to him. The only caveat is that maybe Walt has already planted some money on him somewhere. Otherwise, I don't see that it's a valid threat. Where's all the money that a drug lord should have. And why would Walt have had to pay the $177 k for the hospital bills?

The premise is that Hank is blackmailing/strongarming him. That's why he paid the bill, in this make believe story.

[cantthinkofanything]

The premise is that Hank is blackmailing/strongarming him. That's why he paid the bill, in this make believe story.

I'm ok with letting some things go but the "confession" is pretty weak as a threat. So Hank is a drug lord but there's no money or spoils that can't be accounted for? Maybe they'll fix it later but as of now, it's not close to being believable.

[timtonymanu]

Yep, Jesse is screwed.

[MannyIsGod]

And so Huell put the cigs back in his pocket?

JESUS FUCK DUDE.

Huel took the pot. Jesse then realizes this. Jesse then realizes Huel took the ricin cig. He then knows that walt put a fake ricin cig in the roomba. He then realizes that if walt did that, it was because he was covering up for the fact he poisoned brock. Jesse knows Walt is the king manipulator - did you see the monologue? - and he knows that walt manipulated him with the ricin cigarette and how he did it. He's had it - especially because he knows Walt poisoned Brock.

[MannyIsGod]

OHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I get it now. I guess I just think it's a huge stretch to believe Jesse figured it out right then especially considering his mind was 100% on getting ready to begin a new life atm

No shit - its like this is some TV show where a high school science teacher becomes scarface. Shit was SO realistic till now. GTFO and never come back to this thread.

[Holden_Caulfield]

when did jesse get so smart?

[cantthinkofanything]

Jesus Christ. Don't you dare poke holes in my fucking favorite show.

[MannyIsGod]

Holy shit that episode was AMAZING. The DVD was masterful, the scene at the restaurant was awesome. The car wash scene was brilliant too. The scene in the desert was great, and the last part was fucking awesome. Jesse looking into the camera with the gasoline and being absolutely crazed. Holy shit, BRILLIANT.

[AnthonyM]

I don't think it's that much of a stretch that Jesse figured it out so quickly/easily. IIRC, in S4, it was Jesse's first instinct when he realized the ricin cigarette was missing. He goes to Walt's house with a gun and threatens him - and correctly guesses that the ricin cigarette was stolen from him. He may even mention that Walt had Saul steal it from him (not 100% sure tbh). But Walt being Walt manipulates Jesse into believing it's not true. Of course in this latest episode, Jesse realizes he was right all along.

[That's Funked Up]

I wonder if jesse is the one that spray paints Heisenberg on the wall

[MannyIsGod]

Jesus Christ. Don't you dare poke holes in my fucking favorite show.

You can poke holes in every show or movie ever made. Do it all you want. Pretty stupid way to try to enjoy the show, though. Besides, that was CS just being retarded and not understanding things and then being surprised that a show that has made you take some huge leaps throughout is now somehow "unrealistic". LOL killing the cartel (or any other moment with the cartel) and not batting an eyelash but THIS somehow makes it unrealistic.

[cantthinkofanything]

I wonder if jesse is the one that spray paints Heisenberg on the wall

My guess is that it was Badger.

[MannyIsGod]

I wonder if jesse is the one that spray paints Heisenberg on the wall


Don't think so. I think its the kids that are skating in the pool. We know that eventually the feds get involved as the house is barricaded off. If thats the case, it probably becomes a news story. No reason to think that Jesse would do that. Jesse's in a mad rage ready to kill right now. He's not there to spray paint.

[cantthinkofanything]

You can poke holes in every show or movie ever made. Do it all you want. Pretty stupid way to try to enjoy the show, though. Besides, that was CS just being retarded and not understanding things and then being surprised that a show that has made you take some huge leaps throughout is now somehow "unrealistic". LOL killing the cartel (or any other moment with the cartel) and not batting an eyelash but THIS somehow makes it unrealistic.

It's still my favorite show but I think they're making compromises in trying to wrap it up.

[Holden_Caulfield]

whats the point on focusing on walts mouth during the confession dvd? they did it like ten times and it looked like he was biting his lip.
that ending was intense

[CuckingFunt]

God damn you, closing credits. Damn you right to hell.

[That's Funked Up]

Don't think so. I think its the kids that are skating in the pool. We know that eventually the feds get involved as the house is barricaded off. If thats the case, it probably becomes a news story. No reason to think that Jesse would do that. Jesse's in a mad rage ready to kill right now. He's not there to spray paint.

we don't really know why the feds have it sealed off, and breaking bad likes to swerve us with shit like that.

[Jacob1983]

Jesse is in badass mode. How long until someone makes a meme about the Hello Kitty cell phone? Hello Kitty, seriously?

[cantthinkofanything]

God damn you, closing credits. Damn you right to hell.

Cue the "thanks Obama vid"

[MannyIsGod]

we don't really know why the feds have it sealed off, and breaking bad likes to swerve us with shit like that.

What other reason could it possibly be that they have it cut off?

[MannyIsGod]

Cue the "thanks Obama vid"

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

It's still my favorite show but I think they're making compromises in trying to wrap it up.

I don't know man. That episode was hands down the best of the show for me. So much came together well for me.

[That's Funked Up]

What other reason could it possibly be that they have it cut off?

crime scene i.e. multiple homicide

[CuckingFunt]

He may even mention that Walt had Saul steal it from him (not 100% sure tbh).

He does. He has everything figured out exactly the way it happened (except the type of poison actually used) when he confronts Walt in "End Times."

[cantthinkofanything]

I don't know man. That episode was hands down the best of the show for me. So much came together well for me.

It was a great episode but I just can't get by the confession thing as mentioned above. No big deal but I think it's weaker than anything else in the show.

[AnthonyM]

He does. He has everything figured out exactly the way it happened (except the type of poison actually used) when he confronts Walt in "End Times."

Thought so. Thanks.

Yeah, so, really don't think it was that much of a stretch. It just finally clicked for Jesse.

Also think Aaron Paul may have won another Emmy with this episode.

[cantthinkofanything]

That being said, they could fix it by having Walt set up an offshore account in Hanks name and funding it.

[MannyIsGod]

crime scene i.e. multiple homicide

Oh so you think there would be a murder there and somehow it wouldn't come out that Walt was Heisenberg? Really?

[CuckingFunt]

Yeah, so, really don't think it was that much of a stretch.

Exactly. It's not much of a leap, at all. In order to avoid plot holes, discovering that Huell could successfully pickpocket the weed doesn't have to be enough to get Jesse to figure out all of Walt's plan in poisoning Brock; it just has to be enough to get Jesse to realize Walt was full of shit and lying when he figured it all out the first time.

[MannyIsGod]

That being said, they could fix it by having Walt set up an offshore account in Hanks name and funding it.

I don't think that it necessarily has to make Hank guilty. It just has to counteract the circumstantial evidence Hank has. Hank has nothing solid on Walt. No one to testify, no money trail, no physical evidence. So Walt provides a viewpoint that fits just as well with a bunch of circumstantial evidence to make Hank look bad. Especially when you factor in that he's Walt's brother in law its plausible.

[AnthonyM]

It was a great episode but I just can't get by the confession thing as mentioned above. No big deal but I think it's weaker than anything else in the show.

To be fair, we don't know if the confession is really going to stop Hank from moving forward with this. He may very well realize Walt's story won't hold up and go talk to the DEA in the next episode. Only time will tell.

[MannyIsGod]

Exactly. It's not much of a leap, at all. Discovering that Huell could successfully pickpocket the weed doesn't have to be enough to get Jesse to figure out all of Walt's plan in poisoning Brock, it just has to be enough to get Jesse to realize Walt was full of shit and lying when he figured it all out the first time.

The point where Jesse tells Walt to stop working him is important for this too. The stage was set beautifully, IMO.

[CuckingFunt]

I don't think that it necessarily has to make Hank guilty. It just has to counteract the circumstantial evidence Hank has.

Yeah. The point is that Hank doesn't have any more evidence to prove Walt's confession is bullshit than he does to prove Walt is Heisenberg, and everyone involved knows it.

[Jacob1983]

AMC needs to stop with "if you want to watch scenes of next week's Breaking Bad or the new season of The Walking Dead, watch Low Winter Sun" shit. That show sucks ass. Thanks Obama.

[cantthinkofanything]

To be fair, we don't know if the confession is really going to stop Hank from moving forward with this. He may very well realize Walt's story won't hold up and go talk to the DEA in the next episode. Only time will tell.

That's a great point. With a few episodes left, you might be spot on. Or the show may end before it even comes in to play

[cantthinkofanything]

AMC needs to stop with "if you want to watch scenes of next week's Breaking Bad or the new season of The Walking Dead, watch Low Winter Sun" shit. That show sucks ass. Thanks Obama.

Does it suck? I was wondering about trying to catch up.

[JMarkJohns]

It was a great episode but I just can't get by the confession thing as mentioned above. No big deal but I think it's weaker than anything else in the show.

Like a drug kingpin trying to blend as a typical DEA agent is going to just have a bank account with millions? He's gonna have a mansion? No. He's gonna hide money in barrels in the desert.

And the hospital bill wasnt payed by Walt because Kingpin Hank had no money, it was to create a paper trail that pulled Walt deeper into the criminal underworld and created leverage.

Face it, from taking Walt for that ride-along, to not being able to fully explain why he was at Tucco's, to his brief stint in El Paso, to having a murder attempt on him by the cartel, to being the only guy who knew it was Gus Fring, everything involving Hank makes him a perfect patsy in this ploy, but also a truly believable brain behind the operation, including the fact that no matter what he did to stop the meth, it never stopped.

And the desert scene had me on the edge of my seat. That hug was fuckin' intense.

[JMarkJohns]

Anyone else think Todd and the Aryan Brotherhood are getting set up as fall guys?

The flash forwards depict Walt no longer as Walt, almost like he's in witness protection.

[MannyIsGod]

I hope Jesse kills Meth Damon.

[DJ Mbenga]

Jesse isnt gonna go through the house burning thing. the house in the flash foward isnt burned, its just trashed to hell.
secondly walt is gonna try to talk to jesse again, but jesse will probably feel like he is gonna kill him. that hug he gave him felt alot like the skyler one, he is no longer on his side, the ricin episode was the last straw.

i think the meth damon aryan angle is gonna be them not being able to replicate the business, todd proves to be an idiot. then word gets to them via lydia that jesse is ready to rat out, so they probably turn up the heat on both of them.

i think the finale will be about walt returning to protect somebody likely jesse after he uses the witness protection card from saul.
im wondering when the deaths will start to come. the actors said this was gonna be a bloodbath season, so far all the characters are still standing.

[ace3g]

Might be a long shot but what if Walt Jr is at the house when Jesse burst in with the gasoline.

[cantthinkofanything]

Like a drug kingpin trying to blend as a typical DEA agent is going to just have a bank account with millions? He's gonna have a mansion? No. He's gonna hide money in barrels in the desert.

And the hospital bill wasnt payed by Walt because Kingpin Hank had no money, it was to create a paper trail that pulled Walt deeper into the criminal underworld and created leverage.

Face it, from taking Walt for that ride-along, to not being able to fully explain why he was at Tucco's, to his brief stint in El Paso, to having a murder attempt on him by the cartel, to being the only guy who knew it was Gus Fring, everything involving Hank makes him a perfect patsy in this ploy, but also a truly believable brain behind the operation, including the fact that no matter what he did to stop the meth, it never stopped.

And the desert scene had me on the edge of my seat. That hug was fuckin' intense.

No way. What's the point of taking the risk to be a drug lord if there isn't some tangible benefit? Unless they're going to introduce something new, Hank is as straight as they get and there's nothing even slightly suggesting a life other than what he's got.

[HeatChamps]

Jesse went from emo to psychotic. Going after Walt is one thing. But his family is another story. I'm really sick of him in this season. I'm sure Walt will take care of him soon.

[JMarkJohns]

No way. What's the point of taking the risk to be a drug lord if there isn't some tangible benefit? Unless they're going to introduce something new, Hank is as straight as they get and there's nothing even slightly suggesting a life other than what he's got.

You know Walt still lives in his shitty little house, right? Of the two homes, whose is nicer?

[JMarkJohns]

And as for "straight as they get", Hank has been questioned and doubted by bosses and peers this entire series. From the examples I listed to others, his character has always survived being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and has been involved in a half a dozen "what? Where did that come from?!" moments throughout this series.

Did you see how he was questioned today for his interaction with Jesse?

Seriously.

[Jacob1983]

Meth Damon:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Might be a long shot but what if Walt Jr is at the house when Jesse burst in with the gasoline.

No car was in the driveway so I don't think so.

[Brunodf]

Jesse breaking in Saul's office/taking the gun/making him confess was too easy...

[exstatic]

The house won't burn because it didn't. While it was boarded up, tagged, and abandoned, there was no fire damage in the flash forward. The Whites may have spent their last night under that roof, though.

[exstatic]

Jesse breaking in Saul's office/taking the gun/making him confess was too easy...

Why? Saul's not a bad ass. He's a negotiator. Once that breaks down and violence ensues, he's going to look after his skin.

[Heath Ledger]

This is how we roll at my crib...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSmMX5cCMAA8jeQ.jpg

[cantthinkofanything]

You know Walt still lives in his shitty little house, right? Of the two homes, whose is nicer?


And as for "straight as they get", Hank has been questioned and doubted by bosses and peers this entire series. From the examples I listed to others, his character has always survived being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and has been involved in a half a dozen "what? Where did that come from?!" moments throughout this series.

Did you see how he was questioned today for his interaction with Jesse?

Seriously.

It doesn't matter. If there were full investigations, Walt would have a lot more explaining to do than Hank.

[JMarkJohns]

Walt can explain everything away as a highly paid cook under someone else's bidding, which he was for a long time. Remember the barrels of money in the desert. It wouldn't be hard to tie them to Hank.

You're missing the point. There's enough holy shit and awe with that video to keep Hank quiet... Remember that he's been quiet up to this point. A fact that shouldn't be lost. Once again, he was real anxious use full DEA force vs. Gus, etc., but now he's sitting on this case. He looks guilty of something already.

[Phillip]

It doesn't matter. If there were full investigations, Walt would have a lot more explaining to do than Hank.

Not necessarily. No one has any proof of anything for anyone being tied to the meth business. The tiniest shred of evidence was the book, which that can easily be dismissed with any sort of story. But they have nothing to pin on Jesse, Walt, Saul, Todd, or Lydia. The only way anything happens is if one of them rolls, which almost certainly none of them will, and no one even knows of Todd, Saul, or Lydia having ties, so it's basically down to just Walt and Jesse. Now if Walt shows that video, that is going to bring far more heat on Hank than Walt.

Unless someone rats, Hank has to "tread lightly" for his own good.

[da_suns_fan]

So the question is who is Walt buying the big gun for:

1) Hank (super unlikely although thats what we originally thought).
2) Lydias crew (probably)
3) Jesse (longshot)
4) Other

[da_suns_fan]

Loved how Walt's confession was the product of a very gifted liar yet his "i need to check the soda machine to get my gun" story was the work of the awkward chemistry teacher.

[cantthinkofanything]

Not necessarily. No one has any proof of anything for anyone being tied to the meth business. The tiniest shred of evidence was the book, which that can easily be dismissed with any sort of story. But they have nothing to pin on Jesse, Walt, Saul, Todd, or Lydia. The only way anything happens is if one of them rolls, which almost certainly none of them will, and no one even knows of Todd, Saul, or Lydia having ties, so it's basically down to just Walt and Jesse. Now if Walt shows that video, that is going to bring far more heat on Hank than Walt.

Unless someone rats, Hank has to "tread lightly" for his own good.

I agree there isn't much to tie anyone to meth but in terms of having questionable income, I think Walt would have trouble explaining the cars, car wash, medical payments, etc. But my guess is that everything Hank owns could be accounted for and tied to his job income.

[Phillip]

I agree there isn't much to tie anyone to meth but in terms of having questionable income, I think Walt would have trouble explaining the cars, car wash, medical payments, etc. But my guess is that everything Hank owns could be accounted for and tied to his job income.

Walt had his gambling story to get out of suspicion.

If he were to show that video, he could give them the info on the barrells of money and say those are Hanks, and he was simply "hiding in plain sight" when working for the DEA by not being too flashy.

To this point, Hank is in a far worse situation than Walt. However that could change quickly, and probably will.

[Phillip]

Loved how Walt's confession was the product of a very gifted liar yet his "i need to check the soda machine to get my gun" story was the work of the awkward chemistry teacher.

Its harder for him to lie to Skyler. She sees through him better than anyone, and always has.

[cantthinkofanything]

Walt had his gambling story to get out of suspicion.

If he were to show that video, he could give them the info on the barrells of money and say those are Hanks, and he was simply "hiding in plain sight" when working for the DEA by not being too flashy.

To this point, Hank is in a far worse situation than Walt. However that could change quickly, and probably will.

IDK...I think he would need to plant something somewhere linking Hank to the money. Which he's certainly capable of doing. But there's nothing linking either to making and selling the meth. As to the gambling story, I think for amounts that large, there is supposed to be some kind of record. At the least, the IRS would come after Walt.

But I guess that's all irrelevant with the cancer coming back and the short time left for the story to finish.

[JudynTX]

Ooooooops, Marie forgot to tell Hank who paid all his medical bills.

[Phillip]

IDK...I think he would need to plant something somewhere linking Hank to the money. Which he's certainly capable of doing. But there's nothing linking either to making and selling the meth. As to the gambling story, I think for amounts that large, there is supposed to be some kind of record. At the least, the IRS would come after Walt.

But I guess that's all irrelevant with the cancer coming back and the short time left for the story to finish.

The point of the video isn't for Walt to save himself. If Hank continues and makes a DEA case of this, then Walt will probably go down one way or another. He is just saying that he is going to take Hank down with him, if Hank tries to bust him.

[That's Funked Up]

So the question is who is Walt buying the big gun for:

1) Hank (super unlikely although thats what we originally thought).
2) Lydias crew (probably)
3) Jesse (longshot)
4) Other

Lydia's chech peeps, you need an m60 to take out those eastern block muda fuckers.


And I'm calling it now, Todd blows himself up

[ChumpDumper]

Lydia's chech peeps, you need an m60 to take out those eastern block muda fuckers.


And I'm calling it now, Todd blows himself upGood possibility. They made a big deal about his cooking, so he might just screw the pooch. The Nazis then need a cook and either kidnap Jesse or somehow threaten Walt's family to get him back. Walter White: Nazi hunter.

and lol unrealistic DVD. If you are complaining about plausibility after the train heist....

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Agreed with Chump's last point, tbh..Breaking Bad, like the Wire(my favorite show of all-time), will get a pass for that type of questionable realism, though, based on reputation and body of work..even as a fan, I admit that a lesser show would be criticized for unrealistic scenes of this nature..

I disagree with cantthinkofanything, though, tbh..Walt's story against Hank is much more believable, with Hank's potential DEA connects from experience and rank in the system, tbh..it's more likely for Hank to establish drug connects, rather than a square, middle-class chemistry teacher with cancer..it also works in Walt's favor that Hank, an important figure in the local DEA game, didn't suspect Walt or book him for over a year, tbh..it makes Walt's story even more plausible..

Anyways, I fully expect Walt to be dead by the end of the series, but I'm still hoping he survives, while Skyler and Jesse are dead, tbh:lol..I strongly dislike both characters(within the scope of the show, obviously..Aaron Paul is a great actor, tbh)..

[CuckingFunt]

IDK...I think he would need to plant something somewhere linking Hank to the money. Which he's certainly capable of doing. But there's nothing linking either to making and selling the meth. As to the gambling story, I think for amounts that large, there is supposed to be some kind of record. At the least, the IRS would come after Walt.

But I guess that's all irrelevant with the cancer coming back and the short time left for the story to finish.

If it went that route, they'd also probably have some questions for the professional law enforcement brother-in-law who a) didn't get suspicious of Walt's sudden influx of cash and who b) on paper accepted a huge chunk of said inexplicable cash for his own use.

[da_suns_fan]

Im guessing Walt is going to save Hank at the end.

One thing we know is that his neighbor dropped her bag of groceries when he saw her (with hair). This could be misdirection. Mabye she thought Walt was dead and thats why she saw the groceries (as opposed to knowing that hes the drug dealer). Of course the spray painted "Heisenberg" in the house might throw out that theory.

[ChumpDumper]

Really, Hank's career is fucked no matter what. As soon as Walt is exposed, that's it for him; if he lives, he'll be a Segue riding mall cop. Walt just let him know how fucked Hank could be legally if he is the one who exposes/kills Walt.

[cantthinkofanything]

If it went that route, they'd also probably have some questions for the professional law enforcement brother-in-law who a) didn't get suspicious of Walt's sudden influx of cash and who b) on paper accepted a huge chunk of said inexplicable cash for his own use.

I don't think he'd ever get convicted on any kind of drug charges but it would certainly end his career. He'd look incredibly incompetent at the least.

[CuckingFunt]

but I'm still hoping he survives, while Skyler and Jesse are dead, tbh:lol..I strongly dislike both characters

I just can't imagine not liking Jesse. Never before has a TV character made me want to dish out motherly nurturing hugs so consistently.

[cantthinkofanything]

I just can't imagine not liking Jesse. Never before has a TV character made me want to dish out motherly nurturing hugs so consistently.

you bitch...you fucking bitch

http://hypocriticalirony.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/corky.jpg

[cantthinkofanything]

I just can't imagine not liking Jesse. Never before has a TV character made me want to dish out motherly nurturing hugs so consistently.

racist much???

http://bigdaddyrugby.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/webster-1.jpg

http://tjimc.com/2013/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Gary-Coleman-as-Arnold-diffrent-strokes-17012853-720-480.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

Im guessing Walt is going to save Hank at the end.

One thing we know is that his neighbor dropped her bag of groceries when he saw her (with hair). This could be misdirection. Mabye she thought Walt was dead and thats why she saw the groceries (as opposed to knowing that hes the drug dealer). Of course the spray painted "Heisenberg" in the house might throw out that theory.

I definitely lean towards the shock being due to Walt being alive, tbh..based on the Reddit spoilers(which have been false, so far, but I imagine some of it must be accurate) and Marie suggesting Walt should die, it seems like they're hinting at Walt faking his death, tbh..

The neighbour's reaction looked like a surprised reaction, rather than a look of fear, although we're probably over analyzing the acting of a random, irrelevant character, tbh:lol..

[King]

I definitely lean towards the shock being due to Walt being alive, tbh..based on the Reddit spoilers(which have been false, so far, but I imagine some of it must be accurate) and Marie suggesting Walt should die, it seems like they're hinting at Walt faking his death, tbh..

The neighbour's reaction looked like a surprised reaction, rather than a look of fear, although we're probably over analyzing the acting of a random, irrelevant character, tbh:lol..

Also notice that when she dropped the groceries, oranges rolled out. In the Godfather movies, oranges were generally used as symbolism for something bad happening to the character. It might be just an homage to the Godfather movies, and nothing more - but it's darn sure not accidental, because these writers are meticulous.

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/godfather/feature_oranges.shtml

[HarlemHeat37]

I just can't imagine not liking Jesse. Never before has a TV character made me want to dish out motherly nurturing hugs so consistently.

I understand the intricacies of his character and the struggles he's dealing with(based on all the harm he inflicted on civilians), but I have a difficult time liking emo pussies, tbh..

Most people hate Walt and like Jesse, but realistically, Walt is the only reason Jesse is still alive, tbh..a soft, emotional wreck like Jesse would have been murdered a long time ago in the drug game, if Walt didn't have his name and reputation..obviously you could counter that Walt is the only reason Jesse was even involved in the meth game at this level, but Jesse was already a deadbeat junkie, he probably would have died at some point anyways, tbh..

As a fan of writing and acting, I love the Jesse character, but looking at the show from a general fan perspective, I've had a difficult time liking an emo junkie, tbh:lol..

[Brunodf]

I just can't imagine not liking Jesse. Never before has a TV character made me want to dish out motherly nurturing hugs so consistently.
Jesse and Skyler are the most annoying characters of BB

[gameFACE]

It's weird but for me I've learned to like Jesse and Skylar more and more as they've been continually seduced by Walt. The more they've been sucked in the more I like them. Just one of the ways the writers have really manipulated the audience.

I love that a simple detail like the neighbors reaction has so many implications. Maybe Walt had Saul gate and tag the house. Walt is going to get his way in the end. If he dies it will be because of the cancer. Or maybe that's what he wants everyone to think.

[MannyIsGod]

Im guessing Walt is going to save Hank at the end.

One thing we know is that his neighbor dropped her bag of groceries when he saw her (with hair). This could be misdirection. Mabye she thought Walt was dead and thats why she saw the groceries (as opposed to knowing that hes the drug dealer). Of course the spray painted "Heisenberg" in the house might throw out that theory.


Yeah I think they probably do think he's dead but I think that the fact the house is like that shows that they also know his story. But after last night all bets are off I guess.

[cantthinkofanything]

Last night was the first time I watched Talking Bad afterwards. I've always liked Samuel Jackson in movies and I'm sure I've seen him interviewed before but I don't ever remember him being like that.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh shit, it just dawned on me but the riccin is probably for Walt himself.

[baseline bum]

That DVD last night has made me start rooting for Walt again. I mean that's some cold shit when Walt slides that DVD over to Hank in the restaurant and then walks off without saying anything. I hope Walt kills Lydia and seeing Todd whack Hank would be badass too.

[baseline bum]

Oh shit, it just dawned on me but the riccin is probably for Walt himself.

What makes you think that?

[ChumpDumper]

Oh shit, it just dawned on me but the riccin is probably for Walt himself.The great thing about this season is that it seems anything is possible and plausible. That's how well this series has been written.

Yeah I can see Walt's going Goering after he exposes himself doing whatever he does with the gun. Maybe while turning himself in to Hank.

[Brunodf]

Oh shit, it just dawned on me but the riccin is probably for Walt himself.
That would suck...Just too obvious, i don't think they will do it...

[That's Funked Up]

Oh shit, it just dawned on me but the riccin is probably for Walt himself.
Walt's not the kind of pussy to off himself, that M60 scream "blaze of glory"

[Jacob1983]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/de02596c5b5a3a10d0a95bfd0c5fb606/tumblr_ms4c1lQY751rsagqio1_500.gif

[JMarkJohns]

Any time Mike or Walt met up with Lydia in a restaurant, she wanted to order a drink to make the meet convincing. One theory has Walt assuming characteristics of those he's killed. It's not unreasonable to think Walt uses the ricin to poison Lydia and the Czech peeps should it come to a meeting like that. Just expose it somehow, poison everyone on the sly, walk calmly to hospital and get treated for ricin (not without hassle, mind you). Or just die.

Remember he and Jr. were watching Scarface? Say hello to his little friend.

[MannyIsGod]

What makes you think that?

It doesn't make sense to use it on anyone else. Not with a machine gun in his trunk. The whole point was that they could sneak it into food and that it would be easy to hide right? What about the machine gun says easy to hide? Plus how would he get it to someone? Only makes sense to me that its for himself.

[baseline bum]

It doesn't make sense to use it on anyone else. Not with a machine gun in his trunk. The whole point was that they could sneak it into food and that it would be easy to hide right? What about the machine gun says easy to hide? Plus how would he get it to someone? Only makes sense to me that its for himself.

Why would anyone kill himself in a way that he'd suffer for 2-3 days before dying?

[monosylab1k]

i've read the idea thrown out, and it makes sense, that in the flash forward Walt isn't coming back to save himself because he knows he can't. He's coming back to save something or someone else, because he knows he's as good as dead already.

[MannyIsGod]

Why would anyone kill himself in a way that he'd suffer for 2-3 days before dying?

Hmm, didn't realize it took that long. That does kinda through a wrench in my theory but then it still doesn't make sense that he'd be able to use it on anyone else either. We'll see I guess.

[johnsmith]

Hmm, didn't realize it took that long. That does kinda through a wrench in my theory but then it still doesn't make sense that he'd be able to use it on anyone else either. We'll see I guess.

I like the theory that someone else brought up. Essentially, Walt turned into Gus, so I think he uses it to poison the nazi gang, group style like Gus did.

[Darius McCrary]

Why would anyone kill himself in a way that he'd suffer for 2-3 days before dying?

Maybe he gets caught, swallows the Ricin, refuses to talk because he knows he'll be dead soon and never be fully "proven guilty"

[ChumpDumper]

There are better, easier ways to off oneself. The point of the ricin is that it's not easily detected. Can't be Jesse or anyone else who knows about the original scheme.

[tp2021]

Whether or not Jesse made a "jump" from Huell's pickpocketing skills to realizing Walt's poisoning of Brock doesn't matter: It could have been simply a suspicion that enraged him enough to go to Saul and beat him up for answers, which he got. Plus, maybe something that aided in his conclusion may be that he is starting to see Saul as being moreso on Walt's side, be it money or fear of being killed by Walt like Mike was. The last time we see the three of them together, Jesse goes in on Walt for being full of shit and just wanting him out of the picture: Saul is the one who took Jesse to that meeting.

The scene that interests me, but I haven't seen discussed much so far, is the opening scene. Maybe the trouble that rains down on Walt isn't due to Hank, but due to someone else who is led to Walt by Meth Damon and his buddies. They (1) discussed a crime in its entirety OUT LOUD in a diner (the waitress serving them looked a bit concerned), (2) killed people RECENTLY (hence the fresh blood on the shoe) so someone may be looking for those murdered, (3) we NEVER see the bloody tissue go down the toilet drain fully, (4) they are HAULING the stolen methylamine!!!!, and (5) they are heading, for all intents and purposes, RIGHT TO WALT in New Mexico.

The Declan murders may lead to a missings person investigation that could be tied directly to Walt, especially since the last call Todd made was to Walt, and left a recorded message.

[monosylab1k]

I like the theory that someone else brought up. Essentially, Walt turned into Gus, so I think he uses it to poison the nazi gang, group style like Gus did.

On Talking Bad, Vince Gilligan said it was only enough ricin to kill 2-3 ppl. But then again if anyone will lie to protect the finale, its him.

[exstatic]

Loved how Walt's confession was the product of a very gifted liar yet his "i need to check the soda machine to get my gun" story was the work of the awkward chemistry teacher.

They mentioned that on Talking Bad. How he can lie with ease to everyone...but Skyler.

[johnsmith]

On Talking Bad, Vince Gilligan said it was only enough ricin to kill 2-3 ppl. But then again if anyone will lie to protect the finale, its him.

Then that covers the three guys that were at the diner at the intro to this last episode....

Who knows though, I wouldn't have predicted much of anything that has happened correctly so I don't know why I would start now.

[vander]

well, with the DVD, and with Jesse figuring out the ricin, IMO there's no way Walt can see the end of this show as a free, alive man.

Jesse needs to tell Skylar about the ricin next week. and the lawyer, since there isn't any more growth potential, only more risk, should should walk away too, leaving Walt alone against everybody. what will he do then?

[cantthinkofanything]

I didn't even read the post but I feel OK saying "another shitty Vander take"

[vander]

I didn't even read the post but I feel OK saying "another shitty Vander take"

people on the internet...

[ColinB]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18y8s6ryiv9yrgif/ku-medium.gif

[DJ Mbenga]

It doesn't make sense to use it on anyone else. Not with a machine gun in his trunk. The whole point was that they could sneak it into food and that it would be easy to hide right? What about the machine gun says easy to hide? Plus how would he get it to someone? Only makes sense to me that its for himself.

the suicide has crossed my mind as a possibility since thats what he attempted in the pilot. but i wouldn't be so sure. there could be a take the ricin to ensure he doesnt come back no matter the circumstances . sort of have a taxi driver ending where he somehow wins, in the end even though he is dead. There have been far too many hints of Walt dying so i cant see them doing a shield ending, although id find that amazing, and ideal for me.
The last episode of the series is called Felina. some have floated around that this song might give an indication of where the series is going with the flash foward. i think it makes sense, its not for himself its to save Jesse or his family. From what? we will find out soon i guess

kIHRgisdbeY

[Heath Ledger]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSmMX5cCMAA8jeQ.jpg

[Spur|n|Austin]

Hank & Marie watch Miley's performance on the VMA's:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek

[Phillip]

How does everyone feel about Walt and his relationship with Jesse? Do you think he legitimately cares about Jesse, or do you think it is all a facade and he is simply using and manipulating him as much as possible, and couldn't care less about what happens to him?

IMO, as much as it seems that he only wants to use and manipulate him, I think he legitimately cares about him, and everything he does is intended to protect him and Jesse in one way or another. I think that his true feelings for Jesse was evident from the scene where he was drugged up and he called Walt Jr. "Jesse" in the episode after Jesse beat the shit out of him in season 4.

[Joyrider]

How does everyone feel about Walt and his relationship with Jesse? Do you think he legitimately cares about Jesse, or do you think it is all a facade and he is simply using and manipulating him as much as possible, and couldn't care less about what happens to him?

IMO, as much as it seems that he only wants to use and manipulate him, I think he legitimately cares about him, and everything he does is intended to protect him and Jesse in one way or another. I think that his true feelings for Jesse was evident from the scene where he was drugged up and he called Walt Jr. "Jesse" in the episode after Jesse beat the shit out of him in season 4.

Did you see how he horribly manipulated Walt Jr. into staying at the house by telling him his cancer is back? I understand his point that he doesn't want Hank and Marie to just tell him what happened but the crummy way Walt KNEW all he had to say was that and Walt Jr. would absolutely stay was despicable. There has to be something extremely drastic to happen (Walt entire family murdered, Jesse about to get killed, etc). for him to try to win redemption because he's clearly just Heisenberg now.

[cantthinkofanything]

Did you see how he horribly manipulated Walt Jr. into staying at the house by telling him his cancer is back? I understand his point that he doesn't want Hank and Marie to just tell him what happened but the crummy way Walt KNEW all he had to say was that and Walt Jr. would absolutely stay was despicable. There has to be something extremely drastic to happen (Walt entire family murdered, Jesse about to get killed, etc). for him to try to win redemption because he's clearly just Heisenberg now.

That's no more manipulative than Marie saying she needed him (Walt Jr.) to come over and work on their computer. And it's not like Hank was lying to him.

[Joyrider]

That's no more manipulative than Marie saying she needed him (Walt Jr.) to come over and work on their computer. And it's not like Hank was lying to him.

Marie is his aunt not the dad he loves more than anything in the world. Even more than his mom. And he's the only character that hasn't been tainted or changed. Walt knew what Marie/Hank were up to and one up them by manipulating Walt Jr. even more. Like he'll ever dare say no to his dad. I have a feeling he finds out the truth in the next episode by either Hank or Jesse.

[Spur|n|Austin]

How does everyone feel about Walt and his relationship with Jesse? Do you think he legitimately cares about Jesse, or do you think it is all a facade and he is simply using and manipulating him as much as possible, and couldn't care less about what happens to him?

IMO, as much as it seems that he only wants to use and manipulate him, I think he legitimately cares about him, and everything he does is intended to protect him and Jesse in one way or another. I think that his true feelings for Jesse was evident from the scene where he was drugged up and he called Walt Jr. "Jesse" in the episode after Jesse beat the shit out of him in season 4.

In my opinion, it's Walt versus the world at this point, and the world includes his family. He's borderline sociopath, and I don't think there isn't anything he won't say or do to get his way/freedom.

[monosylab1k]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSmMX5cCMAA8jeQ.jpg

Yeah we saw it the first time you posted it, nobody gave a crap then and nobody gives a crap now. Maybe you'd get a laugh out of David Carradine if he wasn't too busy being a rotting, maggot-infested corpse after masturbating himself to death.

[Brunodf]

How does everyone feel about Walt and his relationship with Jesse? Do you think he legitimately cares about Jesse, or do you think it is all a facade and he is simply using and manipulating him as much as possible, and couldn't care less about what happens to him?

IMO, as much as it seems that he only wants to use and manipulate him, I think he legitimately cares about him, and everything he does is intended to protect him and Jesse in one way or another. I think that his true feelings for Jesse was evident from the scene where he was drugged up and he called Walt Jr. "Jesse" in the episode after Jesse beat the shit out of him in season 4.
It's either that or Walt is really dumb, so i think it's the first one.

[monosylab1k]

Walt does genuinely care about Jesse on some level, or Jesse would already be dead.

[baseline bum]

Still thought it was funny seeing the look on Jesse's face when Walt called him son while he was trying to explain "you have to believe me" about not killing Mike.

[Phillip]

What is amusing is that I STILL don't think Jesse has called him "Walt" a single time in the whole series. Always has called him "Mr. White", even while he was enraged and was beating up Saul and ready to kill Walt. I don't see Jesse or Walt killing each other for some reason still.

[Phillip]

Some interesting theories on the finale too...

Felina = anagram of Finale

FeLiNa
Fe = iron
Li = lithium
Na = sodium

Iron = major ingredient in blood
Lithium = major ingredient in meth
Sodium = major ingredient in tears

Felina = blood, meth, and tears

Gilligan is a genius :dizzy

[Joyrider]

What is amusing is that I STILL don't think Jesse has called him "Walt" a single time in the whole series. Always has called him "Mr. White", even while he was enraged and was beating up Saul and ready to kill Walt. I don't see Jesse or Walt killing each other for some reason still.

He does at least once in a pivotal scene that launches the Heisenberg empire.

ml-a2HbtAWs

Fast forward to 18:26.

"You need me more than I need you, Walt."

[Phillip]

He does at least once in a pivotal scene that launches the Heisenberg empire.

ml-a2HbtAWs

Fast forward to 18:26.

"You need me more than I need you, Walt."

Okay, well then he called him Walt at least once. Point is, he was on a rampage and wanted to kill him, and still referred to him as Mr. White, which is odd.

[Bill_Brasky]

I think Walt cares about Jesse. he let his girlfriend die because he knew Jesse would just end up OD'ing right with her if she lived. he even almost told Jesse what he did.

Jesse is dead long ago if not for his pal Mr. white.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I think Walt cares about Jesse. he let his girlfriend die because he knew Jesse would just end up OD'ing right with her if she lived. he even almost told Jesse what he did.

Jesse is dead long ago if not for his pal Mr. white.

You could also argue that he let Jesse's girlfriend die, as he needed Jessie for his own needs.

[Heath Ledger]

How does everyone feel about Walt and his relationship with Jesse? Do you think he legitimately cares about Jesse, or do you think it is all a facade and he is simply using and manipulating him as much as possible, and couldn't care less about what happens to him?

IMO, as much as it seems that he only wants to use and manipulate him, I think he legitimately cares about him, and everything he does is intended to protect him and Jesse in one way or another. I think that his true feelings for Jesse was evident from the scene where he was drugged up and he called Walt Jr. "Jesse" in the episode after Jesse beat the shit out of him in season 4.

I think Walt would put a bullet in Jesse's head in a New York Minute if it could save his ass and protect him and has family.

[resistanze]

Yeah we saw it the first time you posted it, nobody gave a crap then and nobody gives a crap now. Maybe you'd get a laugh out of David Carradine if he wasn't too busy being a rotting, maggot-infested corpse after masturbating himself to death.

Holy Fuck :lol

[DJ Mbenga]

next weeks episode will be a must watch according to what i read in this article.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/08/08/breaking-bad-writers-room-final-season/2630099/

[Spur|n|Austin]

This thread tbch

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/image_zps4fdd95f5.jpeg

[Biernutz]

I think that the only ones that Walt really cares about is his kids. He has used every one else
including his wife to make more money. He keeps helping Jesse because he is a weak and
knows that if keeps helpinghim Jesse he will have his back. Walt would off Jesse if he had
no more use for him. Walt willsurvive till the end because of his amazing luck and his ruthlessness.
Walt is as bad as any Mexican drug lord. He has put body's in barrels of acid and poisoned
Jessee's girlfriends son.

Heisenberg is scary when he puts that hat on...........duck and run...........

[leemajors]

This thread tbch

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/image_zps4fdd95f5.jpeg

what about the other blue napkin, surprised he isn't caressing it tbh

[JudynTX]

Hank & Marie watch Miley's performance on the VMA's:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek

:lol :lol That's brilliant!

I have one more.


http://youtu.be/_mVq_4BA5DQ

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol :lol That's brilliant!

I have one more.


http://youtu.be/_mVq_4BA5DQ

:lol :lol

[oh crap]

someone on the BB facebook page mentioned that the background looks like tombstones. intentional?

https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1234973_10151844174482722_1064235872_n.jpg

[baseline bum]

Yeah, that combined with the Rabid Dog title next week makes me thing Jesse gets Old Yeller'ed Sunday by Walt. :depressed

Hope not, because Jesse's way too good a character to die until the next to last episode at earliest.

[IronMexican]

I remember hearing back in 2010 that Jesse was supposed to die in s2 or 3, but Gilligan fell in love with him, or something.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL those are for flood control. Not sure if that was intentional or not though.

[Fpoonsie]

Yeah, that combined with the Rabid Dog title next week makes me thing Jesse gets Old Yeller'ed Sunday by Walt. :depressed

Hope not, because Jesse's way too good a character to die until the next to last episode at earliest.

Agreed. Kinda like Chrissy, tbh. You know he's prolly on his way out, but you can't have too much Sopranos WITHOUT him.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I remember hearing back in 2010 that Jesse was supposed to die in s2 or 3, but Gilligan fell in love with him, or something.

End of Season 1, actually.

[baseline bum]

Agreed. Kinda like Chrissy, tbh. You know he's prolly on his way out, but you can't have too much Sopranos WITHOUT him.

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. I hope Breaking Bad can have as awesome an ending as Sopranos did.

[Joyrider]

Hank would die much earlier than Jesse. Jesse IS Breaking Bad as much as Walt is.

[Brunodf]

Hope he dies in the next episode tbh

[TE]

...

[HarlemHeat37]

I can't watch until 9:10, any recap for the first 10, tbh? Thanks my guys..

[That's Funked Up]

I can't watch until 9:10, any recap for the first 10, tbh? Thanks my guys..

walt came home to an empty house

[That's Funked Up]

I want that bitch dead so bad

[TE]

Bitches gon be bitches

[TE]

Holy fuck

[SpursRock20]

That whole scene at the end wasn't too believable, but oh well. Still lines up for a very entertaining 4 episodes to end the show.

[Fabbs]

Requirement to see this show from year 1 ep 1?
Cause ive tried getting into it and its boring.

Never had this problem with The Soapranos.

[SpursRock20]

Requirement to see this show from year 1 ep 1?
Cause ive tried getting into it and its boring.

Never had this problem with The Soapranos.

This second part of the season has been all built off of the end of the first half of season 5. It's really a bad place to start watching. Go ahead and start with season 1. No way you can say that is boring.

[TE]

That whole scene at the end wasn't too believable, but oh well. Still lines up for a very entertaining 4 episodes to end the show.

Apart from the scene where Hank convinces Jesse to jump on the wagon, this episode was just build up imo. I'm expecting big things to start happening next episode (deaths or near encounters).

[That's Funked Up]

I'm gonna be pissed is Skylar somehow makes it through the last episode

[CubanSucks]

I'm gonna be pissed is Skylar somehow makes it through the last episode

Why do you still hate her?

[InRareForm]

Jessie :lol

[Jacob1983]

Breaking Bad is boring? You serious? Sopranos had a lot of boring moments. The Wire too. I said it.

[MannyIsGod]

Did not expect to see Hank there. Solid episode.

[Brunodf]

Shit. Maybe Walt will not die in the end...

[That's Funked Up]

Jessie's going after the money

[JMarkJohns]

LOL those are for flood control. Not sure if that was intentional or not though.

So subversive imagery to let you know a floods a comin'?!

Lady Macbeth, I mean Skylar is an interesting twist.

[Phillip]

Jessie's going after the money

possibly true, considering the name of the next episode, and that is where he buried his money.

[Fabbs]

Breaking Bad is boring? You serious? Sopranos had a lot of boring moments. The Wire too. I said it.
Soapranos had a lot of boring moments, yes.
But hardly any boring episodes, except the final season stinker.

As was posted, one needs to see Breaking Bad from the start.

[Bill_Brasky]

hank his gonna murk meth damon's uncle.

[Brunodf]

possibly true, considering the name of the next episode, and that is where he buried his money.
Yeah...Just like that "Confessions"episode...

Maybe that's the name because Jesse(in the desert) and Walt(pressured by Jesse's meth/Lydia) will cook meth again(Jesse's idea to make Walt come back and catch him)...

[JMarkJohns]

Anyone have any theories on Marie's admission to searching for untraceable poisons to kill some anonymous male who betrayed her like a cuckquean, the fact Walt has ricin, the fact Walt needs Hank gone, and the fact Walt slumps his shoulders after retrieving the two-thirds filled vile in the flash forward, almost as if he has strong bad memories tied to such a small item?

I think it's possible Hank gets poisoned, Marie gets blamed (computer records)/Walt confession DVD.

Her ambiguous betrayal banter could just as easily point to Hank as it could Walt.

[CubanSucks]

As was posted, one needs to see Breaking Bad from the start.


A sign of good writing, just like with movies

[DJ Mbenga]

Yeah...Just like that "Confessions"episode...

Maybe that's the name because Jesse(in the desert) and Walt(pressured by Jesse's meth/Lydia) will cook meth again(Jesse's idea to make Walt come back and catch him)...

What we do know is Walt def makes a trip back to the desert. And it looks like something happens that makes him panic and want to get the fuck out of town

http://i.imgur.com/hULR0s0.jpg?1?9488

[mrsmaalox]

Just finished season 4. It's grown on me, I've enjoyed it a lot, but I'll need to see how it all ends up before I can jump on the "greatest series ever" bandwagon----so far it doesn't touch The Sopranos. Took me a while to find likeable characters but I look forward to scenes involving Hank or Mike and especially Saul, I think he's my favorite. Don't think I've ever known a character who suffers quite as much as Jesse though :lol

[marini martini]

Just finished season 4. It's grown on me, I've enjoyed it a lot, but I'll need to see how it all ends up before I can jump on the "greatest series ever" bandwagon----so far it doesn't touch The Sopranos. Took me a while to find likeable characters but I look forward to scenes involving Hank or Mike and especially Saul, I think he's my favorite. Don't think I've ever known a character who suffers quite as much as Jesse though :lol

Yeah Jesse's pretty much the Emo King.

[leemajors]

Sam and Dean have Jesse beat easily on the suffering front.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Just finished season 4. It's grown on me, I've enjoyed it a lot, but I'll need to see how it all ends up before I can jump on the "greatest series ever" bandwagon----so far it doesn't touch The Sopranos. Took me a while to find likeable characters but I look forward to scenes involving Hank or Mike and especially Saul, I think he's my favorite. Don't think I've ever known a character who suffers quite as much as Jesse though :lol

I think this may have been discussed already, but don't feel like searching the pages, but which character did you find likable on The Sopranos?

[mrsmaalox]

I think this may have been discussed already, but don't feel like searching the pages, but which character did you find likable on The Sopranos?

Oh so many! Tony, Christopher, Carmella, Paulie, Silvio, Bobby, Adriana; the ones I didn't care for were Uncle Junior, Dr. Melfi and Tony's kids. Of course I hated Janice and their mom.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would rank Sopranos ahead, as well, tbh..

I love Breaking Bad and it's on my elite tier, but one of the primary reasons I have it behind The Wire and Sopranos is the number of key characters, tbh..subjective opinion, as this isn't important to everybody, but personally, I enjoy following numerous characters on a show, rather than focusing on 3-4, tbh..

Breaking Bad focuses primarily on Walt and Jesse's affairs, with the occasional Skyler and Hank storyline..there's no surprise killing element, as the viewer knows the show wouldn't kill off a main character in the early seasons, it wouldn't make sense..

Breaking Bad's legacy will benefit greatly from being a "White" show, tbh..from a strictly superficial perspective, ignoring the intricacies and genius of the shows, the Wire was an urban show that focused primarily on the Black community, and the Sopranos focused mainly on the Italian culture..Breaking Bad is a show about middle-class White people and focuses on the "Whitest drug" in meth, tbh..

[Proxy]

I'm still thinking Walt fakes his death... and I'm thinking the M60 and ricin is him coming back for jesse

[baseline bum]

Oh so many! Tony, Christopher, Carmella, Paulie, Silvio, Bobby, Adriana; the ones I didn't care for were Uncle Junior, Dr. Melfi and Tony's kids. Of course I hated Janice and their mom.

I didn't find any of those characters likable. Tony was a murderous fat fuck with a c*nty attitude who'd get pissed at the smallest shit and fly off the handle. Christopher was a retard woman-beater junkie. Carmella was an overemotional drama queen who was nagging someone in 95% of her lines. Paulie is a sick twisted two-face who kept going behind Tony's back even though Tony kept advancing him through the crew. Silvio wasn't an interesting enough character to like or not, I guess. Bobby was count to potato stupid. And Adriana, the snitch bitch? Working for the feds over a small coke possession charge? LOL, she got what she deserved.

What I loved about The Sopranos was that the writers didn't try to make you like them. They weren't portrayed in a sympathetic light like Michael was in The Godfather 1 or Vito in The Godfather 2, for example. They were idiots who could only survive by force. It's the same reason I loved Goodfellas. Everyone in Goodfellas is a low-life and you just want them to all die; especially because they think they're so sophisticated because they live n*gger-rich.

[redzero]

I agree that most of the characters on The Sopranos aren't likable, but I still like Bobby and post-dementia Uncle Junior.

[mrsmaalox]

I didn't find any of those characters likable. Tony was a murderous fat fuck with a c*nty attitude who'd get pissed at the smallest shit and fly off the handle. Christopher was a retard woman-beater junkie. Carmella was an overemotional drama queen who was nagging someone in 95% of her lines. Paulie is a sick twisted two-face who kept going behind Tony's back even though Tony kept advancing him through the crew. Silvio wasn't an interesting enough character to like or not, I guess. Bobby was count to potato stupid. And Adriana, the snitch bitch? Working for the feds over a small coke possession charge? LOL, she got what she deserved.

What I loved about The Sopranos was that the writers didn't try to make you like them. They weren't portrayed in a sympathetic light like Michael was in The Godfather 1 or Vito in The Godfather 2, for example. They were idiots who could only survive by force. It's the same reason I loved Goodfellas. Everyone in Goodfellas is a low-life and you just want them to all die; especially because they think they're so sophisticated because they live n*gger-rich.

Those were all my favorite qualities :lol

[baseline bum]

I agree that most of the characters on The Sopranos aren't likable, but I still like Bobby and post-dementia Uncle Junior.

This scene proved Bobby was too dumb to live tbh

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[baseline bum]

Kind of blows my mind to see David Chase could write such an amazing series in The Sopranos without having a single sympathetic character that anyone should care about. I especially love that all signs point to Tony being killed in a power grab by Patsy. LOL Meadow probably gets capped too, standing right in the gunman's escape path.

[Phillip]

seriously

women should just shut up. they are stupid as a pile of goat shit.

[redzero]

This scene proved Bobby was too dumb to live tbh

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"He's the hair apparent."
"Remember Pearl Harbor" in reference to a Korean.
"The Chinese Prince Matchabelli"
"They were all meat eaters"
"penissary contact with her Volvo"

Tony, Chris, and Paulie are dumbasses, too, if we're going by stupid comments.

[Joyrider]

imo, shit will hit the fan in a big way tonight. I see a character death and the nazis showing up in a big way. I'm expecting one of the best episodes of the series, tonight.

[cantthinkofanything]

Simpsons with a nod to Breaking Bad tonight. Actually ran the opening intro, then a short scene with ice blue cupcakes.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YKePrVPGK3g

[oh crap]

what the fuck is walt's next move?

[resistanze]

He should've murked all them, then Marie.

[resistanze]

Bet ya those dudes still come and waste all of them

[ace3g]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[baseline bum]

Ah fuck, I can't believe the Wehrnacht couldn't waste Hank and Jesse there. :pctoss

[SourCandy]

O.....M.....G

[007nites]

Hope that was enough suppression there for your asses

[IronMexican]

That was wild

[baseline bum]

This is going to be some bullshit if any of Hank, Gomez, and Jesse survive that.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Did Hank leave the keys in the car?!?!

[IronMexican]

Gomez is as good as gone. I think that will make Hank want to repay blood with blood.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Hank and Gomez are outnumbered and outgunned. I don't know how they can possibly survive that firefight.

[Joyrider]

Just unbelievable blue balls. I bet Walt goes on the run in the next episode. The title of the next episode is the poem about a king seeing his kingdom crumble. Heisenberg world comes crashing in the next episode with the blood of hank and Gomez.

[CubanSucks]

Did they really just turn that into a shoot-out scene seen in every fucking PG-13 movie ever? Around 6-10 guys, no more than 30 ft from each other, automatic rifles and shotguns, not a single hit.................................


inb4 HURRRRRRRRRRRR IF YOU WANT REALISM THEN WATCH SUMTHIN ELSE!!!!!!!!! IT'S JUST A SHOW!!!@!!!!!@@!!!!!!!!!!!


that went from being in the top 5 most tense endings to an episode to me wondering why no one's dead yet

[HarlemHeat37]

99% chance Gomez is dead at the start of next week's episode, tbh..

I'd say there's a 60% chance Hank is dead, maybe a little higher..I thought they would show his death at the end of this episode, especially after he had an emotional conversation with Marie, where they seemed to strongly emphasize her face and emotion, tbh..

The best part of this show is that even at this point, it's still highly unpredictable, tbh..

[IronMexican]

Yeah, it was way over the top.

All realism went out the window with Gus' final scene, though.

[HarlemHeat37]

All the best shows get leeway in questionable/unrealistic storylines and scenes, tbh..it's based on their body of work..

If a shitty show had some of the scenes we've seen on Breaking Bad or The Wire or whatever, we would all be ripping it, tbh, but the great shows earn some room for error..

[ace3g]

I honestly thought the first bullet was going to be a headshot to Hank and that was going to be the end of the episode with a close up of Walt's shocked face.

[Bender]

Around 6-10 guys, no more than 30 ft from each other, automatic rifles and shotguns, not a single hit.................................
I agree that out of all those rounds fired, not one hit was pretty unbelievable. They were way more than 10 yards apart though. 30 yards maybe.

[baseline bum]

I honestly thought the first bullet was going to be a headshot to Hank and that was going to be the end of the episode with a close up of Walt's shocked face.

How are the writers going to get themselves out of this corner they just painted themselves into? Hank can't realistically survive this, but the show becomes a lot less interesting with Hank and Gomez gone and thus no law enforcement on Walt anymore. LOL if Marie gets some of the ricin (can't remember how full the vial looked in the flash forward in Episode 5.01).

[CubanSucks]

Yeah, it was way over the top.

All realism went out the window with Gus' final scene, though.

At least there was something unique to that. Obviously no one could walk out of a room with half a face and fix their tie before falling dead, but it was such a typical Gus thing to be calm and collected to the very end regardless of what just happened. With this week's ending we've seen it 500 times in every blockbuster ever made. There were so many possibilities to have a significant jaw dropping event and instead they're trading a stupid amount of gunfire with no effect

[redzero]

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19890926&id=dllWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2u8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6112,3564240

For all those whose suspension of disbelief was broken with that firefight.

[HarlemHeat37]

How do you guys know there weren't any casualties, tbh?..they ended the episode mid-fight, I'd be shocked if Gomez and/or Hank aren't dead, tbh..

I disagree with BB about Hank's death ending the storyline, though..if/when Hank and Gomez are dead, the DEA/Feds are obviously going to find out and investigate, and Marie knows Hank just arrested Walt somewhere..

[baseline bum]

I disagree with BB about Hank's death ending the storyline, though..if/when Hank and Gomez are dead, the DEA/Feds are obviously going to find out and investigate, and Marie knows Hank just arrested Walt somewhere..

Depends. They can just go kill Marie and burn all the files Hank has in his house and Walt's secret dies unless Jesse survives and goes and snitches to Det. Winters and Loya tbh. Surely Walt has to know Hank is keeping it close when he saw him doing the investigation in his garage and when only he, Gomez, and Jesse show up to take him in, knowing who Walt is.

[CubanSucks]

How do you guys know there weren't any casualties, tbh?..they ended the episode mid-fight, I'd be shocked if Gomez and/or Hank aren't dead, tbh..

I'm talking about UP TO then. Someone should already be dead

[CubanSucks]

On a side note, I thought for a sec my boy Todd was about to get him some of that milf pussy. It would've been kinda lame for the story considering everything else going on but if anyone could get with my lovely Lydia it's Todd (or Walt, before Skylar got back in his life full time)

[007nites]

They capped 100+ bullets into that Tahoe. I'm surprised Walt is still alive.

[exstatic]

I think by the time this is over, Walt will wish that Hank had taken him in, and would gladly turn himself in to law enforcement if he weren't a cooking slave to Todd and his uncles. I don't think he's going on the run from law enforcement.

[MannyIsGod]

No way Hank survives. None of the symbolism points to that. The conversation with Marie (and especially the way they showed both wedding bands). Also, look at the title of the next episode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias

The misses in the gunfight tonight were simply for one week of suspense and to give people false hope that Hank might live. I'd be willing to be money he's dead very early in the next episode.

How fucking awesome was it to watch Walt get out smarted and confess on that phone call? Such a bad ass scene.

[HarlemHeat37]

No way Hank survives. None of the symbolism points to that. The conversation with Marie (and especially the way they showed both wedding bands). Also, look at the title of the next episode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias

The misses in the gunfight tonight were simply for one week of suspense and to give people false hope that Hank might live. I'd be willing to be money he's dead very early in the next episode.

How fucking awesome was it to watch Walt get out smarted and confess on that phone call? Such a bad ass scene.

Pretty much agree with all of this, tbh, like I said earlier..

I think it'll open with Gomez already dead, subsequently leading to Hank's dramatic, slower death in the following scenes..

[exstatic]

I think by the time this is over, Walt will wish that Hank had taken him in, and would gladly turn himself in to law enforcement if he weren't a cooking slave to Todd and his uncles. I don't think he's going on the run from law enforcement.

I think the seeds of his escape from Todd and company were sown tonight, though. Gilligan seems to be circling things back to their beginnings. Mull over the cooking scenes from tonight's ep, and think back on how he killed his first two guys when they tried to jack his mobile operation in the Bounder.

[monosylab1k]

Did they really just turn that into a shoot-out scene seen in every fucking PG-13 movie ever? Around 6-10 guys, no more than 30 ft from each other, automatic rifles and shotguns, not a single hit.................................


inb4 HURRRRRRRRRRRR IF YOU WANT REALISM THEN WATCH SUMTHIN ELSE!!!!!!!!! IT'S JUST A SHOW!!!@!!!!!@@!!!!!!!!!!!


that went from being in the top 5 most tense endings to an episode to me wondering why no one's dead yet

I say this without a shred of internet trolling or irony. Just the honest, heartfelt truth - i hope you die before next Sunday.

[CubanSucks]

I say this without a shred of internet trolling or irony. Just the honest, heartfelt truth - i hope you die before next Sunday.

What's wrong, bro?

[IronMaxipad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5PQB69Ohnw

[Death In June]

It was kind of stupid that Jesse was able to get a full confession out of Walt. It seems out of character for Walt to be so careless and offer every damning bit of information completely unsolicited. Dumb.

[lefty]

LOL that was worse than that dumbass missing Travolta and S.Jackson at gunpoint in Pulp Fiction

[DJ Mbenga]

No way Hank survives. None of the symbolism points to that. The conversation with Marie (and especially the way they showed both wedding bands). Also, look at the title of the next episode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias

The misses in the gunfight tonight were simply for one week of suspense and to give people false hope that Hank might live. I'd be willing to be money he's dead very early in the next episode.

How fucking awesome was it to watch Walt get out smarted and confess on that phone call? Such a bad ass scene.

this show likes its color symbolism. if it means anything, Marie was wearing black. you know what that implies...

[lefty]

if it means anything, Marie was wearing black. you know what that implies...
That her man is gonna get cucked and she will never go back

[MannyIsGod]

It was kind of stupid that Jesse was able to get a full confession out of Walt. It seems out of character for Walt to be so careless and offer every damning bit of information completely unsolicited. Dumb.

Did you miss Hanks comments about the dirt? Its not out of character at all.

[MannyIsGod]

this show likes its color symbolism. if it means anything, Marie was wearing black. you know what that implies...

Damn that seems obvious as hell and I didn't even notice.

[HarlemHeat37]

That her man is gonna get cucked and she will never go back

:lmao, my nigga doing what he does, tbh..

[lefty]

http://i.imgur.com/hRpUKOX.jpg

[ColinB]

http://i.imgur.com/4pC0Imd.gif

[AnthonyM]

They capped 100+ bullets into that Tahoe. I'm surprised Walt is still alive.

Yeah but most of the bullets hit the front of the Tahoe, and the driver's side door. Walt is in the backseat. It makes sense since the Nazis know Walt is in there and they want him alive so he can cook and they can make money.

Plus, he's the main character and we know he is still alive thanks to the flash-forwards so it's no surprise.

As for the shootout itself and all of the misses, I give it a pass on being "not being entirely realistic". Like it was already mentioned, most great shows get passes late in the season for some unrealistic stuff thanks to their body of work prior. For me, it was McNulty and the fake serial killer storyline in season 5 of The Wire. And we don't know if Hank and Gomez aren't already shot. Or maybe they're wearing bulletproof vests. Who knows. But I'm not too concerned with the realism of it all at this point; BB has earned that. I enjoyed the tension and visuals of the last 15 minutes of the episode. It was fantastic.

[Brunodf]

:rolleyesWalt looks too nice and dumb right now.

The writers are trying too hard, i mean, choosing Hank over his own life/family money?! Really??

Never ever considering that Jesse was with Hank??!:rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

How are the writers going to get themselves out of this corner they just painted themselves into? Hank can't realistically survive this, but the show becomes a lot less interesting with Hank and Gomez gone and thus no law enforcement on Walt anymore.I think pretty much ALL the law enforcement will be on Walt now. It's seems to just be a matter of how he escapes the Nazis and what they do to force him back.

It was so stupid to bring Meth Damon to the hit, I'm thinking he's one of the casualties. Looks like Jesse slipped away before the gunfight started. Don't know how he could get far, but there is going to be a shit ton of panic so he might realistically be left behind.

[Trainwreck2100]

:rolleyesWalt looks too nice and dumb right now.

The writers are trying too hard, i mean, choosing Hank over his own life/family money?! Really??

Never ever considering that Jesse was with Hank??!:rolleyes

He did say jesse wasn't a rat

[cantthinkofanything]

It was kind of stupid that Jesse was able to get a full confession out of Walt. It seems out of character for Walt to be so careless and offer every damning bit of information completely unsolicited. Dumb.

I think Walt was pretty stupid to stop his car and get out and look around after he saw no signs of life where he hid the money. Or at least get back in his car and drive and take the phone somewhere else.