Breaking Bad

[DJ Mbenga]

Was Walt threatening Jesse at the end there

Creepy ending

It was actually meant to Mike. noticed how he said he handles the business i handle him. its just walt going into douche mode full time now. we all know how its gonna turn out (need to buy a m60 to try to get out of the shit hole he dug himself)

[HarlemHeat37]

Really hoping that Skylar dies at some point, tbh..

One of my most hated characters on any show..

[CuckingFunt]

The last scene was most definitely a threat, but I think it was aimed at Mike. Walt is a cocky bastard so far this season, and a lot of that has to do with the fact he's 100% convinced he's got Jesse wrapped around his finger. It used to be he manipulated Jesse to get what he wanted, but this season it almost feels as if he's doing it for the fun of it.

Also, starting from the point Skyler wakes up from her nap to the sound of machine guns, I'm guessing the scene of Walt, Jr., and Holly watching Scarface is going to end up being very closely tied to the finale. The use of that film in general, and Walt's casual "Everyone dies in this movie," was almost as obvious in its symbolism as Don Draper's rotten tooth in the season finale of Mad Men.

[CuckingFunt]

Oh, also, it's pretty much guaranteed that at least one of the exterminators is going to keep up their extra-curricular activities.

[Capt Bringdown]

I feel like the writers are creating a lot of moving parts leading up to the obvious conclusion foreshadowed in episode 1 of this season. Started to feel a twinge of disappointment and boredom with the show.

They better have some surprises up their sleeves, for if this season is all about some moralistic finale in which Walt gets his comeuppance, I think they will have betrayed the originality and daring that the series has become known for.

[JudynTX]

I think Skyler wants Marie to shut up.

:lol Well Marie does go on and on.


Was Walt threatening Jesse at the end there

Creepy ending

It was creepy, and I thought he was sending a message to Jesse, but apparently not.


Oh, also, it's pretty much guaranteed that at least one of the exterminators is going to keep up their extra-curricular activities.

Todd?

They were running out of places to find to cook, I really thought they would consider the Car Wash. :tu

[Capt Bringdown]

Anyone else finding that the Mike storyline is straining plausibility? He & his associates get called into the feds, and then soon after 2 of these associates are gunned down. Wouldn't he be under some kind of surveillance from the get go, and shouldn't he be very cautious?
He's going around as he pleases, doing whatever he wants, arranging meetings with Jesse & Walt, etc...it's more than a bit implausible IMO.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I feel like the writers are creating a lot of moving parts leading up to the obvious conclusion foreshadowed in episode 1 of this season. Started to feel a twinge of disappointment and boredom with the show.

They better have some surprises up their sleeves, for if this season is all about some moralistic finale in which Walt gets his comeuppance, I think they will have betrayed the originality and daring that the series has become known for.

Yeah too much of the foreshadowing is to obvious now

And thelamest thing of all is that you know AMC is pressuring Gilligan into some epic mid season cliff hanger, seeing how the show will go on hiatus for 3/4 of a year.

I'm hoping I'm not let down

[Capt Bringdown]

Yeah too much of the foreshadowing is to obvious now

And thelamest thing of all is that you know AMC is pressuring Gilligan into some epic mid season cliff hanger, seeing how the show will go on hiatus for 3/4 of a year.

I'm hoping I'm not let down

16 episodes, dividing tidily into 3 acts. They're going to leave us hanging right in the middle of act 2.

The 3/4 year hiatus might be the jump-the-shark moment for me. If that ain't taking your audience for granted, nothing is...
Too cute

[The Gemini Method]

I have a different viewpoint as to the progression of the series. They owe us nothing as an audience--they've been wowing us for 4 years so, if their story is going to progress like this and (It has been really orchestrated well in incorporating Mike and the fringe characters into focus) allow for the hiatus to create a sense of anticipation--then that's fine by me. AMC has two other well-done series that can fill the void until 2013. There are so much more a member of an audience can do in the meantime.

The Kid Icarus warning and the flash of ego with his 'slash his throat' mantra speaks more towards Mike as the greed continues to rise within Walt White. I thought the most telling part of the episode was Walt and Jesse's convo on the couch and how psychologically confusing it must be as Jesse takes it as sort of the mentor-mentee is now accepted and have that flipped a little from that to what Jesse sees as a threat (though it was aimed at Mike...and the complete ignoring of his well-being when asked, 'how he was doing' by Walt). A very compelling build-up to what is deemed the downfall of Walt.

The outside exterminators are definitely going to be where something is exposed.

[Bill_Brasky]

Fuck, missed this week's episode. When can I see it again?

[The Gemini Method]

Fuck, missed this week's episode. When can I see it again?

I think they play it again tonight around 10 PST I'm not entirely sure...do you have On Demand? They usually put it up right away.

[Bill_Brasky]

I think they play it again tonight around 10 PST I'm not entirely sure...do you have On Demand? They usually put it up right away.

Nope, no on demand.....just checked tonight's listing and they're playing The Godfather twice in a fuckin row instead of some much needed reruns.....fuckers.

[shyne]

Favorite line from last night " just cause you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James."

[The Gemini Method]

Favorite line from last night " just cause you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James."

Cool line...but I don't know Walt took it very well--might be that impetus that plots the inevitable violent conclusion to the Walt/Mike dynamic.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mike is too smart to be caught off guard by Walt in a betrayal.
Will be messed up if somehow he brainwashes Jesse into doing it.

[The Gemini Method]

Mike is too smart to be caught off guard by Walt in a betrayal.
Will be messed up if somehow he brainwashes Jesse into doing it.

Could also be an 'accident' a la Hank and Tuco back in the earlier part of the season. He might very well pit Jesse against Mike as he has been more complimentary of Jesse of late.

[Cane]

Someone's going to die in an extermination

Loved the meth music video

Walt needs his ass kicked again

Mike's days are numbered although if I shoot in the dark, I think he'll run into Hank and somehow gets locked up. We'll definitely see more of Mike's background and what kind of controversial decisions he made as a police officer, they could be kind of like what Jesse went through when Jesse prioritized the safety of children and Walt

Mike...I also think he'll be alive until we see new threats like the Germans or rogue exterminators

Jesse's face looks like Skylar's last season

With all of these super rich people, I wonder if those fatcats from season 1 will be tied into the ending. Maybe they've got ties to the meth operation or Walt ones-up them briefly

[JudynTX]

16 episodes, dividing tidily into 3 acts. They're going to leave us hanging right in the middle of act 2.

The 3/4 year hiatus might be the jump-the-shark moment for me. If that ain't taking your audience for granted, nothing is...
Too cute

Wait? What?

[InRareForm]

Jesse becomes more disciplined with every season. All that shit really humbled him.

walt is the same cranky old man with a looming ego still growing.

[The Gemini Method]

Jesse done grown up it seems...He even cut ties with his Latina Lover so that he wouldn't endanger them or cause them to get caught up in a world that really has no happy ending. Very interesting contrast to what Walt has done by hoarding Skyler and lording over her and not letting her out of his life as he clings to his past while creating a monsterous, deviant and egomaniacal future. LOL at him cliche(ing) it up with the Scarface moment an having it up loud as to make sure Skyler knew the score.

[Cane]

Good stuff about Jesse.

Makes me wonder if he'll become the real tragic character of the show....or maybe they'll end it with Jesse as the new Gus/Walt. Can't wait to see more interaction with his meth friends

[Sense]

The whole making meth in other people's houses is perfect for future drama.

[IronMexican]

I really really hate Skylar, guys.

[HarlemHeat37]

I really really hate Skylar, guys.

My nigga, tbh..

I don't even care if it logically fits into the plot, I want to see her die, tbh..

[redzero]

Marie is cool, though.

[InRareForm]

Marie got nice titiies

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I feel like the writers are creating a lot of moving parts leading up to the obvious conclusion foreshadowed in episode 1 of this season. Started to feel a twinge of disappointment and boredom with the show.

They better have some surprises up their sleeves, for if this season is all about some moralistic finale in which Walt gets his comeuppance, I think they will have betrayed the originality and daring that the series has become known for.

Have you even been watching the show? Mexican Don: arrogant, greases Gus's partner, gets his comeuppance. Gus: arrogant, rubs old man's nose in killing the Don and the rest of his relatives, gets his comeuppance.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Marie is cool, though.

Marie is a loudmouth bitch, just in a different way from Skyler.

[HarlemHeat37]

Marie is a loudmouth bitch, but she's generally likable..

Skylar is bitchy, a hypocrite, a drama queen, and very unlikable IMO..

I understand many fans have developed a dislike for Walt, but his intentions towards his family have remained consistent..IRL I would imagine that most men in Walt's position, with an enlarged ego and financial success, would either leave their ungrateful wife for a penis pleaser, or at the very least, assume alpha position..fortunately, it appears that Walt is finally achieving alpha status..

[redzero]

Marie stood up for Walt during that family meeting, so she will always get my respect.

Hank treating her like shit for no reason was messed up.

[HeatChamps]

This show fucking rules. Magnets bitch.

[Trainwreck2100]

something that's was once again brought up was how drug money was used to facilitate hank's recovery, which means he's even more fucked if walt gets caught

[Trainwreck2100]

bye bye aztek

[Wild Cobra Kai]

:lol The perfect birthday gift for the man without much time: a watch.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Oh, and timeline update. The show started with his 50th birthday. He just "celebrated" his 51st. At the diner in the flash forward, he made his bacon into a 52, likely also his birthday. As much time will elapse between when we get to that time as from the beginning of the show to now.

[tp2021]

Well it could also be Walt's own wishful thinking-- hoping that he lives past the ordeal necessitating the big gun and makes it to his 52nd.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Well it could also be Walt's own wishful thinking-- hoping that he lives past the ordeal necessitating the big gun and makes it to his 52nd.

He used the bacon for 50. Likely, the 52 is for his birthday.

[redzero]

Skyler with the "I thought you were the danger," "waiting for the cancer to come back" one-two punch. Will Walt be able to recover, or will he still keep pretending that everything is okay in their relationship?

[Trainwreck2100]

skyler needs to just fucking die already

[DMC]

I've only watched to season 4 but I hate the retarded kid. I just forward through all the mom/son shit. I watch the Jesse/Walt, Gus/Hank all that stuff though. I decided early that I don't care about the family unit but the little girl is a doll.

The 1st 4 seasons were basically:

Jesse fucks up

Walt gets injured and distances himself more from the fam as he bails Jesse out

Jesse fucks up

Walt bails them out

Jesse fucks up

Walt bails them out

Jesse fucks up

Walt bails them out

etc, ad nauseum. i was hoping Jesse would get popped early in the 2nd season. I have no love for the guy. It's not because he's a dipshit or that he's a meth head, but he's just uninteresting. There's really nothing about him that's developed enough to make him anything but a tool for Walt's genius heroism. Jesse is completely useless.

The wife suddenly became a savvy genius suddenly with the gambling story, while just a couple episodes earlier she was fucking her stupid, scamming boss as if she had absolutely zero sense.

The show is good only because of the drug gang, Hank and Walt. I liked Gus, but he jumped the shark already.

The Hank/Walt thing is very Dexteresque. It's almost deus ex machina at times.

[DMC]

AMC does weird shit with their shows, sometimes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they DID split it into two seasons, even, or otherwise.

OK, on to this episode:

1) Walt is a fucking idiot, and an egomaniac, to boot. When your DEA bro-in-law is about to give up on his quasi investigation, you don't give him ammo to continue, just because he thinks someone else (Gale) is responsible for your primo product.

2) I still think Gus and Mike are setting up Jesse. The life of one of Gus's couriers is a very dangerous one, and that would be the perfect way to kill him without actually "killing" him. Just put him in the back of one of the chicken batter/Meth delivery trucks, and let the cartel do the rest.

3) I think Gus is done. With Hank finding the Pollos Hermanos t-shirt at the scene of the murder of Gale the vegan, I think the jig is up.

I realize this is old, but I want to respond:

It was established early on that Walt feels he was cheated out of his mental property by the millionaire guy that used to be his partner. He's very much a purist when it comes to chemistry (and just about anything else he does). He's like a lot of us that cannot tolerate the generic approach to life that people like Jesse take. He likes the hoopla surrounding his "product". He also runs his mouth when he's drunk or drugged, as we've seen at least 3 times (the "which one" comment, the near confession about letting that chick choke and coaxing Hank into not giving credit to Gale) so it's no surprise that he would say shit when he's drunk. Look for that as a lever for keeping things going in upcoming seasons. It's a writers' tool.

I never felt that Gus was trying to kill either of these guys except when it became obvious that Walt was a problem and was too jittery to trust. Gus did make it obvious after that that he was going to try to off someone. I didn't think the courier thing was it. Gus is so connected he could have them die "accidentally" anywhere. I felt the writers strayed from the character of Gus eventually, making him super human at times and a bad ass chessmaster of a drug lord, but then he keeps people like Jesse alive when he didn't need to. He gets all these irons in the fire at the same time and suddenly he's compromised. Someone with his history would not allow that many loose ends, and it seemed at times he was acting out of compassion when he made it clear he doesn't think that way at all.

Good call on Gus, though there wasn't much left to do. The cat and mouse thing ran its course. Gus got his revenge, he had nothing left. Hank is just there to provide suspense, they had to cripple him to keep him viable for the story, though it's funny that the writers made the rest of the DEA total retards who never learn "yeah we know you were right the last 10 times and you killed all these bad guys single handed, but your story sounds far fetched, let's grab a beer". I guess developing other people would require more time so just make them paper dolls with carbon copy intellects.

[CuckingFunt]

etc, ad nauseum. i was hoping Jesse would get popped early in the 2nd season. I have no love for the guy. It's not because he's a dipshit or that he's a meth head, but he's just uninteresting. There's really nothing about him that's developed enough to make him anything but a tool for Walt's genius heroism. Jesse is completely useless.

Um... I'm not sure you're watching the same show I've been watching.

[Capt Bringdown]

Terrible writing this season. I was fast-forwarding thru the talk-tastic, predictable cardboard drama.
BB has officially jumped the shark.

[Cane]

Fucking love this show, although it feels like we're waiting to meet more of the Germans

Pushing against the Aztek was :lol

[JudynTX]

Not a solid episode, but I want to slap the shit out of Skylar. She's one of my least favorite characters and the writers are doing a good job of keeping it that way. :lol

With Hank moving on with his promotion, will the investigation stop?

[VBM]

Not a solid episode, but I want to slap the shit out of Skylar. She's one of my least favorite characters and the writers are doing a good job of keeping it that way. :lol

With Hank moving on with his promotion, will the investigation stop?

AMC: making America hate wives (Betty Draper, Lori Grimes, Skylar White) since 2007 :lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Crofl, DMC which Jesse have you been watching?
He has evolved every season, grown as a person every step of the way.
It's like you only watched season 1, then stopped paying attention.

[CuckingFunt]

Crofl, DMC which Jesse have you been watching?
He has evolved every season, grown as a person every step of the way.
It's like you only watched season 1, then stopped paying attention.

Not to mention the idea of Walt ever displaying "genius heroism."

[The Gemini Method]

I like the contrast of how Walt said how things have been hectic in just a year as it played both to the past events and alludes to the future, which, was set forth at the beginning of the season with the Denny's breakfast and the 52 with the bacon. It woud be a disservice to the show if you didn't applaud how Jesse has now become the consciable one in regards to the Jesse, Walt and Mike triumvirate. Far removed from the once jittery meth addict quick-to-irrationality character of seasons past. Didn't like how the Walt/Skyler bday thing progress as it played out a little whimper and didn't really maintain anything necessary but the already shift in their disasterous existence.

[monosylab1k]

We all knew Marie was gonna sell Walt out, but I was more excited about Hank now wondering why Walt had a second cell phone if it wasn't for another woman on the side.

[monosylab1k]

I'd be really happy if I got the following before the series is over.

-Skylar dead
-a Jesse/Mike showdown
-a Hank/Walk showdown

and it seems to be gearing towards at least the last two.

[VBM]

I'd be really happy if I got the following before the series is over.

-Skylar dead


I'd settle for Skylar becoming Tia White

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZoBe5DclKzc/0.jpg

[CuckingFunt]

I get the Skyler hate. Kinda. Especially from the people who still seem to want Walt to end up a badass. And I have disliked her character/motives ever since season 2 (Walt was an asshole and she had a reason to be both pissed and suspicious, but she was annoyingly passive aggressive about the whole thing and the way she started moving in on Ted so she'd have a backup husband waiting in the wings after Walt died was really slimy). But I can't help feel sorry for her this season. Walt has been completely unsympathetic so far this season, and his manipulation of Skyler has been particularly disgusting.

[leemajors]

I get the Skyler hate. Kinda. Especially from the people who still seem to want Walt to end up a badass. And I have disliked her character/motives ever since season 2 (Walt was an asshole and she had a reason to be both pissed and suspicious, but she was annoyingly passive aggressive about the whole thing and the way she started moving in on Ted so she'd have a backup husband waiting in the wings after Walt died was really slimy). But I can't help feel sorry for her this season. Walt has been completely unsympathetic so far this season, and his manipulation of Skyler has been particularly disgusting.

I think he has been pretty creepy with the over the shoulder stuff, but I am just curious as to why it's "enough" for her now. If only Walt had listened to Saul :lol

[VBM]

But I can't help feel sorry for her this season. Walt has been completely unsympathetic so far this season, and his manipulation of Skyler has been particularly disgusting.

Ever since "I fucked Ted!", I could give a rat's ass as to Skylar's feelings. Any leftover fuck that was to be given disappeared when she emptied Walt's funds to cover Ted's IRS bullshit.

[CuckingFunt]

I think he has been pretty creepy with the over the shoulder stuff, but I am just curious as to why it's "enough" for her now. If only Walt had listened to Saul :lol

I think it's been "enough" since the one-who-knocks speech, but I think it's been exacerbated since the violence inherent to their new lifestyle became impossible to ignore. Her fear of Walt, combined with the fact she has been fully corrupted by his lifestyle to the point she can't even claim the moral high ground anymore, makes her feeling of being trapped and her concern for the safety of her children completely justified.


Ever since "I fucked Ted!", I could give a rat's ass as to Skylar's feelings. Any leftover fuck that was to be given disappeared when she emptied Walt's funds to cover Ted's IRS bullshit.

That arc, to me, just highlights how similar she and Walt are, but it's judged more harshly because it involves infidelity. Because of decisions she made earlier on, including putting her own signature all over books she knew to be dishonest, the money wasn't used to solve Ted's IRS bullshit. It was every bit as much her own IRS bullshit. Which makes it inaccurate to judge her actions as giving away Walt's money to do a solid for the guy she had been shtuping.

Walt decided to make meth when he needed money, saw the danger and was scared away, then made a conscious choice to return to said dangerous activity, from which all other choices made were justified by the rationale that he had to do it to save his family. Skyler saw that Beneke was cooking the books, saw the danger in staying there and threatened to quit, then made a conscious choice to stay and sign her name to the books, which then made giving him all the money the appropriate reaction justified by the rationale that she had to do it to save her family.

[VBM]

Walt decided to make meth when he needed money, saw the danger and was scared away, then made a conscious choice to return to said dangerous activity, from which all other choices made were justified by the rationale that he had to do it to save his family. Skyler saw that Beneke was cooking the books, saw the danger in staying there and threatened to quit, then made a conscious choice to stay and sign her name to the books, which then made giving him all the money the appropriate reaction justified by the rationale that she had to do it to save her family.

That's what makes Sky so frustrating. A conscious decision exposed her to danger, and she covered her ass. However, she refuses to to accept what Walt is doing. I need her to stop acting holier than thou when her constant need to micromanage things isn't helping her.

[CuckingFunt]

That's what makes Sky so frustrating. A conscious decision exposed her to danger, and she covered her ass. However, she refuses to to accept what Walt is doing. I need her to stop acting holier than thou when her constant need to micromanage things isn't helping her.

I don't think her distress this season is caused solely by Walt, though. As was made pretty clear in their argument in last night's episode, I think a lot of her fear/depression has to do with the person she has become as well. For instance, I think it's telling that her motivation is not to take the kids and run, but rather to get them out of the house altogether. No doubt she wants to keep them away from someone who'd blow up an old folks' home, but I think a big part of her frustration is that she doesn't even see herself as being a fitting parent any longer.

Like I said earlier, I'm no fan of Skyler's in general. And the fact I feel sorry for her shouldn't be read as me suddenly liking the character or justifying her actions. I just think that the people who want to dismiss Skyler as annoying or a two-dimensional bitch/wife character are missing a lot of what's going on. The holier-than-thou attitude that lingered long after it was appropriate has been gone since the moment she saw Ted in the hospital.

[leemajors]

I don't think her distress this season is caused solely by Walt, though. As was made pretty clear in their argument in last night's episode, I think a lot of her fear/depression has to do with the person she has become as well. For instance, I think it's telling that her motivation is not to take the kids and run, but rather to get them out of the house altogether. No doubt she wants to keep them away from someone who'd blow up an old folks' home, but I think a big part of her frustration is that she doesn't even see herself as being a fitting parent any longer.

Like I said earlier, I'm no fan of Skyler's in general. And the fact I feel sorry for her shouldn't be read as me suddenly liking the character or justifying her actions. I just think that the people who want to dismiss Skyler as annoying or a two-dimensional bitch/wife character are missing a lot of what's going on. The holier-than-thou attitude that lingered long after it was appropriate has been gone since the moment she saw Ted in the hospital.

Shoulda kept the townhouse.

[InRareForm]

Skylar's act of being an overparanoid freak, then suddenly ravaging on infidelity/money laundering extravaganza, then turning back into over paranoid freak is ridiculous.

[leemajors]

Well, CF is right. Walt is pretty damn creepy now.

[CuckingFunt]

Well, CF is right. Walt is pretty damn creepy now.

Unambiguously so. He's pretty clearly written and acted as a villain now.

[Trainwreck2100]

Terrible writing this season. I was fast-forwarding thru the talk-tastic, predictable cardboard drama.
BB has officially jumped the shark.

I wouldn't worry about jumping the shark, last season early episodes were kinda crap too

[DMC]

Um... I'm not sure you're watching the same show I've been watching.
Sure I have, and I didn't wait a week between episodes to mentally develop a character that wasn't implied in the show.

He's a small time meth dealer. He's a stereotypical dumb ass and always has to throw in "bitch" and "yo" at every turn. He wears stereotypical garb and, until the "DL" statement with the red car, he's not even hinted at having an ounce of common sense. He's a less interesting version of Pineapple Express.

[DMC]

Crofl, DMC which Jesse have you been watching?
He has evolved every season, grown as a person every step of the way.
It's like you only watched season 1, then stopped paying attention.
Evolved, sure, but all we know about him is what he told people about his childhood, about his brother that we've not even heard from since and about his drawing skills as a kid. We know he got too hooked on a girl he only knew for a short amount of time, and he acted as if he's never seen anyone killed for selling drugs on the wrong corner. Even Walt wasn't shocked at that. For someone that's evolved though, he's perpetually right back where he started. He's living in the same house (though he bought it) and he still does stupid kiddie shit. He had nothing to do with solving any serious issue, just came along to be the damsel in distress, as it were. That's not evolution. Keep in mind I haven't begun to watch the 5th season.

[DMC]

Not to mention the idea of Walt ever displaying "genius heroism."
Really? So his acts to save his family, save Jesse from drug dealers, blow up the RV to disable/kill crazy 8 and his cousin, the death of Gus and Tico, the power play to keep both himself and Jesse alive by having Gale killed, allowing tattoo chick to die because she was a liability to both himself and Jesse, did you miss those episodes?

[CuckingFunt]

Really? So his acts to save his family, save Jesse from drug dealers, blow up the RV to disable/kill crazy 8 and his cousin, the death of Gus and Tico, the power play to keep both himself and Jesse alive by having Gale killed, allowing tattoo chick to die because she was a liability to both himself and Jesse, did you miss those episodes?

(Just barely) getting yourself out of the problems you create =/= heroism.

And if you see Walt allowing Jane to die or forcing Jesse to kill Gale as anything other than horrible, then, yes, we are watching very different shows.

[DMC]

I didn't like Skylar from the onset. She's a nagging, power hungry bitch and Walt was a passive pussy. Her sister is just like her except more interesting and more annoying (purple).

I won't call it bad acting or bad writing, just a character I didn't connect with. Some women probably will, just as some bleeding hearts will connect with the retard.

[DMC]

(Just barely) getting yourself out of the problems you create =/= heroism.

In the context of the show, where he could have just fled but decided to go back for Jesse and save his family, sure it does.


And if you see Walt allowing Jane to die or forcing Jesse to kill Gale as anything other than horrible, then, yes, we are watching very different shows.Well I didn't expect a show about a terminally ill man who turns to meth production to be graded using the same reference.

Ever heard the term "pirate among men, prince among pirates"?

The premise of the show already puts both Walt and Jesse as outlaws, and in the realm of the outlaw world, Walt beat Gus when he was at a huge disadvantage in resources and experience. He lured Gus in and disposed of him. I consider that heroism. The show isn't called Breaking Good.

Jesse also allowed Jane to die. Walt wasn't in a position to save Jane as she already made her intentions obvious: take Jesse's money and blackmail Walt. Jess again played the fool. Walt again played the savior. You might not like how he did it, but Jane was the antagonist in that scene. She had to die. The idea is for Walt to reach his goal, keep himself and his family alive and after the talk with Jane's father, Jesse was considered Walt's family. Jane was just a pretty meth head. She was otherwise no different than the guy who got his head crushed by an ATM.

[CuckingFunt]

I guess I disagree that Walt has spent much time acting as a prince.

[DMC]

I guess I disagree that Walt has spent much time acting as a prince.
In your world (among men).

[CuckingFunt]

In your world (among men).

Not among the pirates, either.

[DMC]

Not among the pirates, either.
So Walt is worse than the cartel, worse than Gus, worse than Mike? Walt has only killed to stay alive. Those people have killed for profit. Mike is a hired killer.

[CuckingFunt]

So Walt is worse than the cartel, worse than Gus, worse than Mike? Walt has only killed to stay alive. Those people have killed for profit. Mike is a hired killer.

Worse is debatable, but he's certainly not appreciably better than any of them.

And Walt has had plenty of opportunities to get out of the business before he was in any of the situations that made killing a necessity.

[DMC]

Worse is debatable, but he's certainly not appreciably better than any of them.

Really? Do you think Gus was actually going to ever let Walt walk? Do you think Walt would threaten to kill someone's children if they didn't cook? Gus was in it for the money from the start. Walt was facing death and could not afford treatment. Mike is a hired killer, kills because someone told him to, and do we even need to talk about the cartel?


And Walt has had plenty of opportunities to get out of the business before he was in any of the situations that made killing a necessity.He never had the opportunity if you realize his alternative was dying. Once he started down that path, he was in the loop. You don't just walk out. He had already killed 2 people early on in another Jesse fuck up.

If you consider that, every time someone died, it's because Jesse fucked up, that's enough to illustrate that Walt was reacting, not acting.

[CuckingFunt]

Really? Do you think Gus was actually going to ever let Walt walk? Do you think Walt would threaten to kill someone's children if they didn't cook? Gus was in it for the money from the start. Walt was facing death and could not afford treatment. Mike is a hired killer, kills because someone told him to, and do we even need to talk about the cartel?

He never had the opportunity if you realize his alternative was dying. Once he started down that path, he was in the loop. You don't just walk out. He had already killed 2 people early on in another Jesse fuck up.

If you consider that, every time someone died, it's because Jesse fucked up, that's enough to illustrate that Walt was reacting, not acting.

I disagree. Completely.

[VBM]

If you consider that, every time someone died, it's because Jesse fucked up, that's enough to illustrate that Walt was reacting, not acting.

Combo is the only exception to that. Otherwise, truth.

[DMC]

Combo is the only exception to that. Otherwise, truth.
Jesse put him on that corner.

[DMC]

I disagree. Completely.
Philopolemic I suppose.

[VBM]

Jesse put him on that corner.

Walt ordered the expansion of the business over Jesse's concerns, iirc

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Skyler is a hedonist that hates herself. I don't see how that makes her likable. Pity maybe?

She needs to do a Jesse and start smoking amp.

[Sense]

Skyler is a hedonist that hates herself. I don't see how that makes her likable. Pity maybe?

She needs to do a Jesse and start smoking amp.

She's likable?

I'm hoping Walt has to kill her..

Also, what was the reference in the end of yesterdays episode? Skyler's comments on waiting for his cancer.. or is that some sort of symbolism for someone to kill him?

Or maybe the watch is a bomb.. perhaps Jesse IS trying to kill him?

[Capt Bringdown]

I wouldn't worry about jumping the shark, last season early episodes were kinda crap too

For example, a couple of episodes ago, we see Walt talking to Jesse about his girlfriend. Jesse suddenly drops his girlfriend as a result of this conversation. Wow, Walt sure is manipulative.

WTF is this, the Dukes of Hazzard?

[IronMaxipad]

She's likable?

I'm hoping Walt has to kill her..

Also, what was the reference in the end of yesterdays episode? Skyler's comments on waiting for his cancer.. or is that some sort of symbolism for someone to kill him?

Or maybe the watch is a bomb.. perhaps Jesse IS trying to kill him?

Remember earlier in the season Mike said Walt was a "ticking time bomb"? That's what i think the watch was symbolizing there at the end. "tick..tick..tick" Walt is going to blow soon is how i interpreted it.

[DMC]

Walt ordered the expansion of the business over Jesse's concerns, iirc
Jesse was in charge of his crew.

[InRareForm]

Armchair psychology is over tbh lol.

What do you guys think will happen with the cooking meth inside of homes? How long will this last, and what will cause it's inevitable end?

[Trainwreck2100]

http://i.imgur.com/gxFq6.jpg

[VBM]

http://i.imgur.com/zmbQZ.png

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Anyone else get a little suspicious when Jesse was adamantly defending that madrigal chick, whom he hardly knows at all, even though she might actually lead the cops back to him Walt and Mike?

I know Jesse is a good hearted person, but he's also smart now
What if he's playing another game of his own, and the watch he bought Walt was Jesse's own attempt to manipulate him

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Also Jesse is smart enough to know Walt would vote to spare her, to keep cooking

Maybe Jesse is plotting something of his own, that he decided to do after the closing scene of episode 3

[CubanSucks]

Lydia is too damn sexy. I had no idea she was the plain looking blacksmith chick from A Knights Tale

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Anyone else get a little suspicious when Jesse was adamantly defending that madrigal chick, whom he hardly knows at all, even though she might actually lead the cops back to him Walt and Mike?

I know Jesse is a good hearted person, but he's also smart now
What if he's playing another game of his own, and the watch he bought Walt was Jesse's own attempt to manipulate him

He dumped his other gf. I figured he was going to hook up with her.

[cantthinkofanything]

Armchair psychology is over tbh lol.

What do you guys think will happen with the cooking meth inside of homes? How long will this last, and what will cause it's inevitable end?

I don't buy the cooking in houses thing. They're so smart and cautious about all of the places they were shown before then. But Walt thinks a mobile lab that cooks in people's houses is a more reasonable choice?

[Lincoln]

Interesting to see the symbolism of Aztek and "Walter White" dying. He is purely Heisenberg now and the flashy new car shows it. He sold his old self away for only 50$ too.

[Proxy]

Remember earlier in the season Mike said Walt was a "ticking time bomb"? That's what i think the watch was symbolizing there at the end. "tick..tick..tick" Walt is going to blow soon is how i interpreted it.

There was gun cocking sound at the end that blends in with the clock ticking.

[Capt Bringdown]

I don't buy the cooking in houses thing. They're so smart and cautious about all of the places they were shown before then. But Walt thinks a mobile lab that cooks in people's houses is a more reasonable choice?

Agreed. Another example of the weak writing this year.

[Sense]

Remember earlier in the season Mike said Walt was a "ticking time bomb"? That's what i think the watch was symbolizing there at the end. "tick..tick..tick" Walt is going to blow soon is how i interpreted it.

Yeah that makes sense..


There was gun cocking sound at the end that blends in with the clock ticking.

This is another reason I was questioning it.


Agreed. Another example of the weak writing this year.

If you think about it, this is going to create a lot of drama, something wrong is going to happen.. it might seem like weak writing right now.. but I'm not judging until I see the climax.

[IronMexican]

Guys, will I get bashed if I say I don't really like this season so far?

[redzero]

Guys, will I get bashed if I say I don't really like this season so far?

Stay plebe.

[vander]

this most recent episode was pretty weak IMO, lots of unnecessary scenes, and lots of overly drawn out scenes, there was about 10 minutes of show in there

[Xylus]

I have to stop reading other people's opinions of Breaking Bad.

Last season, the story started off slow and then turned into the most badass season of the series. Now, only a few episodes into this season, people are returning with the same stupid complaints about how it's too slow again. Breaking Bad has always been a slow burn. If you want instant gratification, this ain't the show to watch.

And "51" was one of the series' best. If you disagree, you're crazy.

[IronMexican]

Stay plebe.

The beginning of the last episode made me fucking sick tbh. It felt like I was watching some other show once that dubstep came in.

[leemajors]

@billburr
I know I cried wolf last week but I swear ta' yaz, I'm on Breaking Bad this week. Watch tonight on AMC

Should be interesting since Burr is on, I like his character.

[Lincoln]

I think it'll pick up, last season started out boring and slow but it was amazing by the end. This season hasn't been awful and I enjoyed the last episode. There really isn't a direction right now though, what's the final goal? Last season we knew the goal was to take out Gus but now...?

[Sense]

Guys, will I get bashed if I say I don't really like this season so far?

:lol


Aren't you wannabe hipster? Do your thing, I'm sure most people will ignore.

[IronMexican]

And I guess I rate season 4 lower than most? I thought it was great, but preferred season 2 and 3 above it.

[resistanze]

Wow Todd.

[Trainwreck2100]

Todd's a cold motherfucker

[TIMMYD!]

Todd don't give a fuck.

[oh crap]

damn

[DJ Mbenga]

on the AMC story sync i voted necessary for the question "Todds shooting was "

looks like everyone is gonna drop out of the business except for Walt, how he keeps shit going is beyond me. Todd is gonna die though, its just a matter of when now.
Also the kid looked alot like the kid from previous seasons where Jesse was in that hosue of the methheads with the ATM smashing the dudes brains off.

[InRareForm]

risky businesssss

[Spurminator]

That was an awesome episode.

[InRareForm]

Already 2 unrealistic, highly risky things now in this season lol... train and magnets.

[The Gemini Method]

Landry str8 put a cap in some kid's ass...wow

[oh crap]

i wonder how long till hank figures out that his office is bugged

[redzero]

Was that really necessary? That kid didn't know what was going on.

[redzero]

I don't think that Heat reference was a coincidence, because in Heat, Weingro killed two cops unnecessarily after a heist, and in Breaking Bad, Todd did the same thing.

[Lincoln]

Wow great fucking thrilling episode...maybe one of the top 3 in the show. Shit madee nervous and then the way it ended was cold blooded...

Great fucking tv series

[DJ Mbenga]

Was that really necessary? That kid didn't know what was going on.

my feeling is the guy really wants in on what they are doing and so he followed orders too literally. Not only was the kid no trouble, the guy waved back at the kid and then said fuck this bitch boom!

[HeatChamps]

Fuck you Todd. He fucked up that great thrill.

[Xylus]

I've never been taken that high to that low so quickly, when watching television. I felt like Walt, Jesse, and Todd when the heist was complete, happy that it was executed perfectly, amazed at the scene I had just watched (beautifully directed, cinematography fucking insane).

Then Lance goes and kills a little boy. Fuck man, that's the most painful thing I've ever watched.

[JudynTX]

I've never been taken that high to that low so quickly, when watching television. I felt like Walt, Jesse, and Todd when the heist was complete, happy that it was executed perfectly, amazed at the scene I had just watched (beautifully directed, cinematography fucking insane).

Then Lance goes and kills a little boy. Fuck man, that's the most painful thing I've ever watched.

:cry It didn't need to end that way. The last 15 minutes had me on the edge of my seat. I guess now it makes sense why they started off with showing the boy find the spider/tarantula?.

I don't trust Todd at all, never have.

Again, I want to slap the shit out of Skylar.

[resistanze]

Was that really necessary? That kid didn't know what was going on.

Todd's an idiot. Let's hope someone puts one in his skull.

[The Gemini Method]

While it would of been easy to have paid off the kid, this in itself is a microcosm of how the thing is going to become derailed. Notice the numerous train metaphors or symbolism? I think it was a foolish thing for Todd to do, but it also proves that this isn't a streamlined operation that will avoid being detected.

[JudynTX]

While it would of been easy to have paid off the kid, this in itself is a microcosm of how the thing is going to become derailed. Notice the numerous train metaphors or symbolism? I think it was a foolish thing for Todd to do, but it also proves that this isn't a streamlined operation that will avoid being detected.

Come again?

[The Gemini Method]

Come again?

I was referring to the usage of train specific items in this season--Walt saying nothing is stopping this train...the train theme of last night's episode and whatnot. Could outside the bounds include the Jesse James reference in that, too if you want to stretch it to the outlaw robbing trains. (just grasping on that one).

I also see the way they are behaving in this season is akin to a train as it is going one way and that's full speed ahead and the slightest mistake like killing a kid and whatnot will derail them eventually.

[CuckingFunt]

I understand the complaint that there hasn't been enough Jesse yet this season, but I'm thoroughly enjoying his new role as the idea man (and occasional tortilla thief).

I'm enjoying the cliffhanger considerably less. This is the first season I'm watching in real time, and this waiting a week for the payoff business is for the birds. Harumph.

[CuckingFunt]

Incidentally, I am somewhat confused how they knew their exact tanker would end up on the trestle when the train stopped. And I find it hard to believe that all that noise they were making wouldn't be heard 800 feet away in such a wide open landscape with zero noise pollution.

But the rest of the episode was so great I'm willing to go with it.

[The Gemini Method]

Incidentally, I am somewhat confused how they knew their exact tanker would end up on the trestle when the train stopped. And I find it hard to believe that all that noise they were making wouldn't be heard 800 feet away in such a wide open landscape with zero noise pollution.

But the rest of the episode was so great I'm willing to go with it.

I kept thinking...yeah, they probably unloaded some other chemical or liquid and they'll rue the fact that they went through all that for naught. Nor could they use the power tool w/o someone hearing it. Oh well, episode was one of the better ones for this young season.

[CuckingFunt]

Nor could they use the power tool w/o someone hearing it.

Or the gas powered pump, which had to have been loud enough that a dirt bike could sneak up on them.

[vander]

who raised you? How were you raised? And I don’t buy this case where people say they don’t have values. They do have values. They have the wrong values. Don’t come near the kids — don’t touch them.

Get away from that kid. Take your stuff away to the alley. Don’t touch the children. Don’t get near them.


and yeah, them not getting noticed out there, with all the noise they were making, hard to believe. and then they had to throw that extra Hollywood drama in there with the "good samaritan" and barely finishing on time... what are the odds, two other people out there in the middle of nowhere at that very moment

[leemajors]

Incidentally, I am somewhat confused how they knew their exact tanker would end up on the trestle when the train stopped. And I find it hard to believe that all that noise they were making wouldn't be heard 800 feet away in such a wide open landscape with zero noise pollution.

But the rest of the episode was so great I'm willing to go with it.

Jesse had a wheel pedometer when thy checked the bridge out, and assuming the lady had the manifestos on hand for the shipment it would not be entirely unreasonable for them to work it out.

[CubanSucks]

who raised you? How were you raised? And I don’t buy this case where people say they don’t have values. They do have values. They have the wrong values. Don’t come near the kids — don’t touch them.

Get away from that kid. Take your stuff away to the alley. Don’t touch the children. Don’t get near them.


and yeah, them not getting noticed out there, with all the noise they were making, hard to believe. and then they had to throw that extra Hollywood drama in there with the "good samaritan" and barely finishing on time... what are the odds, two other people out there in the middle of nowhere at that very moment

what are the odds any of this would happen, dumbass?

what are the odds a push-over, near genius chemist hooks up with a druggie ex student to become the best meth manufacture in the southwest WITHOUT being killed by numerous Mexican cartel and a close big time boss and his crew all while hiding it from his fucking DEA brother-in-law?

You're watching the wrong show if you're looking for realistic circumstances

[Capt Bringdown]

Good episode, although I thought that Walt and Jesse unloading all the details of their plan/operation to Todd was a bit too much on the nose. Still too much telegraphing and over-plotting this season.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck. Just watched the episode.

[MannyIsGod]

I understand the complaint that there hasn't been enough Jesse yet this season, but I'm thoroughly enjoying his new role as the idea man (and occasional tortilla thief).

I'm enjoying the cliffhanger considerably less. This is the first season I'm watching in real time, and this waiting a week for the payoff business is for the birds. Harumph.

Worst part about getting into a show before its ended is this. Fucking hate it sometimes. Its awesome to be able to do 10 hour marathons on season (plus stuff is fresher when you watch).

[leemajors]

Worst part about getting into a show before its ended is this. Fucking hate it sometimes. Its awesome to be able to do 10 hour marathons on season (plus stuff is fresher when you watch).

that and fantasy book series :lol

[MannyIsGod]

You're watching the wrong show if you're looking for realistic circumstances

THIS applies to so much. I don't get how people get hung up on such small details on works of fiction that are pretty god dam unrealistic to begin with.

Just suspend the disbelief and enjoy the plot and characters. Oh, and enjoy that stabbing pain in your gut the last episode left you with.

[MannyIsGod]

that and fantasy book series :lol

I'm just waiting for George RR Martin to die before SOIF is done.

[vander]

what are the odds any of this would happen, dumbass?

what are the odds a push-over, near genius chemist hooks up with a druggie ex student to become the best meth manufacture in the southwest WITHOUT being killed by numerous Mexican cartel and a close big time boss and his crew all while hiding it from his fucking DEA brother-in-law?

You're watching the wrong show if you're looking for realistic circumstances

the improbability of the main story is a very different thing than going to extreme abnormalities just to make an episode work.

any great story is going to be improbable, that doesn't mean you can start conveniently making people go deaf, or congregate where they normally wouldn't...

Walt's improbable accomplishments are only amazing and entertaining if the show stays grounded in reality otherwise. If he only managed all that because of coincidences and lightning strikes and convenient drunk drivers or whatever it wouldn't be a very good show

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm just waiting for George RR Martin to die before SOIF is done.

that happened to robert jordan and the wheel of time twas quite gay

[baseline bum]

Just started watching this; pretty promising so far. Halfway into the pilot I already like it way better than Boardwalk Empire.

[oh crap]

you're in for a ride. i was fairly late too but once it gets you, that's pretty much it.

[leemajors]

My buddy pointed out he picked up the spider when the train whistle blew when they were taking off again. It's likely he didn't see shit.

[leemajors]

http://i47.tinypic.com/jrxopz.gif

[HeatChamps]

:lmao

[CuckingFunt]

http://i47.tinypic.com/jrxopz.gif

A particularly dark moment on The Price is Right.

[Cane]

Recent episode felt somehow annoying to watch until the last few minutes. Still love the show and gotta rewatch it.

Anyway throwing darts here :

Walt uses Todd and Lydia to get rid of Mike and scares away Jesse. Walt uses Jesse's friends for some shit.

Walt Jr. will try meth or get into some teenage shenanigans with his new ride

Skylar and Anna Gunn become even more cringe worthy to watch

[DJ Mbenga]

http://i47.tinypic.com/jrxopz.gif

http://www.amctv.com/sync.amctv/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/BB-sync-ep505-19.jpg

Also the episode description for episode 7 is out. oh is it tantalizing:

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/breaking-bad-say-my-name/EP010093960057

[Trainwreck2100]

i just think mike goes to the kid's funeral in the previews

[PakiDan]

http://www.amctv.com/sync.amctv/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/BB-sync-ep505-19.jpg

Also the episode description for episode 7 is out. oh is it tantalizing:

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/breaking-bad-say-my-name/EP010093960057



It's two sentences that say nothing at all....

Walt takes control of business matters; Mike deals with the consequences of his actions.

[shyne]

Here is description for next weeks episode from Wikipedia


Still upset over the many divisions of their profits, Walt tries to discuss payment terms with Mike. Meanwhile, occupational hazards start to weigh heavily on Jesse.Luck_The_Fakers_

[Xevious]

Can I ask why everybody has a problem with Skyler?

Really, if she had any brains at all, she would have gone to the Police/DEA once she found out about Walt. But instead, she decided to partner up with him and launder his money. All the while, she was naive enough to think that Walt was some lab rat who was not involved in any criminal activity other than the actual production of the meth. He was only doing what he had to to provide for his family. Then she finds out that not only is he a drug dealer, he's a murderer and has put their family at risk probably more than once. Now she's in too deep to call the cops. If Walt goes to prison, she goes too and her baby grows up with both her parents behind bars.

Walt has gone full on villain this season. And his scenes with Skyler have become just creepy. But I have no problem with her as a character, because she is only trying to protect her kids and Walt is in no way a sympathetic guy anymore.

[Trainwreck2100]

Can I ask why everybody has a problem with Skyler?

Really, if she had any brains at all, she would have gone to the Police/DEA once she found out about Walt. But instead, she decided to partner up with him and launder his money. All the while, she was naive enough to think that Walt was some lab rat who was not involved in any criminal activity other than the actual production of the meth. He was only doing what he had to to provide for his family. Then she finds out that not only is he a drug dealer, he's a murderer and has put their family at risk probably more than once. Now she's in too deep to call the cops. If Walt goes to prison, she goes too and her baby grows up with both her parents behind bars.

Walt has gone full on villain this season. And his scenes with Skyler have become just creepy. But I have no problem with her as a character, because she is only trying to protect her kids and Walt is in no way a sympathetic guy anymore.

She helped create the monster now she's sad it's biting her in the ass. Plus she's a bitch, plush she fucked ted and committed fraud, and cost Walt 600G's. If she didn't take all his money they'd have new identities and Gus would still be alive.

[Xevious]

She helped create the monster now she's sad it's biting her in the ass. Plus she's a bitch, plush she fucked ted and committed fraud, and cost Walt 600G's. If she didn't take all his money they'd have new identities and Gus would still be alive.
All good points. But it all started with Walt cooking meth.

She's definitely flawed, but that doesn't make her an uninteresting character.

[cantthinkofanything]

Todd's an idiot. Let's hope someone puts one in his skull.

After they were done celebrating the heist, I was expecting Walt to shoot Todd to make sure he stayed quiet.

[CubanSucks]

I stopped thinking Skyler was a bitch sometime around the 3rd season, or whenever she found everything out. Before that as far as she knew Walt was just going on a weird depressed streak because he has fucking lung cancer, she should just give him some damn space and get off his case. AFTER she found out how the hell could anyone blame her for constantly being a nuisance?

[The Gemini Method]

I stopped thinking Skyler was a bitch sometime around the 3rd season, or whenever she found everything out. Before that as far as she knew Walt was just going on a weird depressed streak because he has fucking lung cancer, she should just give him some damn space and get off his case. AFTER she found out how the hell could anyone blame her for constantly being a nuisance?

Well, she had all the opportunity to leave--which, many of us in the situation would probably do. I mean, she used the guise that she wanted to keep the family together, but how realistic is that. I think the best part of the show's ability is the constant theme of loyalty. In this aspect, it has her trapped between trying to keep the sense of family together and yet, she loathes what kind of family it has became. That's why this show is spectacular because like it has been said--there are no clear cut heroes or good guys/gals and trying to hammer out your own viewpoint is possible since there's way to much to analyze.

[CubanSucks]

Well, she had all the opportunity to leave--which, many of us in the situation would probably do. I mean, she used the guise that she wanted to keep the family together, but how realistic is that.

Pretty realistic if you ask me.


I think the best part of the show's ability is the constant theme of loyalty. In this aspect, it has her trapped between trying to keep the sense of family together and yet, she loathes what kind of family it has became.

She can't predict the future. If she turns in Walt then there's no hope of them ever being a complete family, on top of her kids knowing their dad's a hardened criminal. Instead, she went down the rabbit hole in hopes of all the crime to eventually pass over. Now I guess she's realizing it's never going to end, end well at least.

[Hooks]

LOL, I never realized that the guy that played Gus Fring was in that movie "Do the Right Thing"

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/03/gal_dtrt_giancarlo-esposito.jpg

[Trainwreck2100]

look up ghost whisperer jesse and gus on youtube

[CubanSucks]

slFgji9osFU

[DJ Mbenga]

It's two sentences that say nothing at all....

Walt takes control of business matters; Mike deals with the consequences of his actions.

very well here is episode 8:
Walt takes care of loose ends; Walt makes a dangerous decision.


and there is gonna be a new character set to appear and recur next year
[GEOFF] 40 to 60, Male. Caucasian. Quietly powerful with an imposing presence. Guest Star/Recurring next season.

[HeatChamps]

Spoiler alerts. Stop with this.

[Proxy]

Spoiler alerts. Stop with this.

Entirely your fault for clicking on a discussion link. We aren't wasting our time

[Proxy]

Looking at the preview... I'm expecting Walt to appreciate Tod for killing the kid. Interesting parallel looking back on the conflict created between Jesse and Gus when a kid was killed previously.

[DJ Mbenga]

Spoiler alerts. Stop with this.



amc uploads these things so I doubt its spoilers to them.

[baseline bum]

Crap, just saw the last half of the fifth season won't air until next summer. :pctoss

[baseline bum]

I have the first 2 seasons of this show sitting there waiting to be watch.

What can I expect? Is it one of those shows that hooks you in and you can barely wait for the next episode?

Wow, was this an understatement.

[redzero]

Shit does happen, Matt Damon.

[redzero]

Jesus Christ, this is awkward.

[TE]

I want to slap the stupid and bitch out of Skylar while I bone her doggy style.

[TE]

jk

[TE]

...Saul :lol

[VBM]

This show


http://ezsmiley.com/gallery/oversize/huge-not-worthy.gif

[redzero]

The Groundhog Day commercials were pretty funny. I knew something strange was about to happen.

[TE]

This show


http://ezsmiley.com/gallery/oversize/huge-not-worthy.gif

Yes, but it's almost torturous the way it pulls you in only to have to wait a whole week for the next move :(

[HeatChamps]

Everybody wins *evil grin*

[Trainwreck2100]

i just wanted walter to say that skylar made him sell his stock to solidify my hatred for her

[oh crap]

on the contrary, i find great depth in jesse's character. didn't start this way but very much an asset.

[oh crap]

Jesus Christ, this is awkward.

just watching now, holy shit. this is an understatement.

[baseline bum]

Shit, I never watch high quality dramas when they're on specifically because I hate waiting a year in between seasons. I should have put off watching this show until next summer so that I could watch the series all at once like I did with The Sopranos and The Wire.

[baseline bum]

I just wonder if the hit is going to be put on Hank or on Jesse from Heisenberg. Or if he's successful in killing Jesse but unsuccessful with Hank. Sucks that it's going to be a year to find out. :bang

[Proxy]

I just wonder if the hit is going to be put on Hank or on Jesse from Heisenberg. Or if he's successful in killing Jesse but unsuccessful with Hank. Sucks that it's going to be a year to find out. :bang

I doubt Gilligan leaves us unsatisfied going into the second half. I think Mike dies before summer.

[Proxy]

Kind of refreshing seeing Jesse interact at the dinner table.... reminds me of where his character was early on in the show

[HeatChamps]

Mike is as good as dead for that stunt.

[CuckingFunt]

The increased focus on Mike this season has made it clear that they need to give Jonathan Banks all the Emmys. He deserves one for the look he gives Saul after the senior citizen comment alone.

[Lincoln]

Usually not a huge fan of Saul but he delivered the goods in this episode :lol

[baseline bum]

LOL @ Irish lawyer pretending to be a Jew.

[TimDunkem]

I doubt Gilligan leaves us unsatisfied going into the second half. I think Mike dies before summer.
I surely hope not...The guy is my favorite character. :depressed

[baseline bum]

I surely hope not...The guy is my favorite character. :depressed

How I felt about Gus :lol
EDIT: and Stringer :lol

[VBM]

How I felt about Gus :lol
EDIT: and Stringer :lol

Stringer over Omar? :nope "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?!?"

[baseline bum]

Stringer over Omar? :nope "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?!?"

Omar got killed as the series and his career was winding down though. Stringer went down in his prime. :cry

[cantthinkofanything]

Thought this was a great episode until the last few minutes.
With Mike's experience, I don't think he makes the mistake of giving Walt any way to escape.

[Trainwreck2100]

Thought this was a great episode until the last few minutes.
With Mike's experience, I don't think he makes the mistake of giving Walt any way to escape.

mike's been half measuring it all season

[Lincoln]

For someone as smart as Mike with him evading the DEA an all, I thought it was retarded for him to just leave Walt tied with a single plastic strap in a room full of random shit. Didn't think det one through tbh.

The real Jesse finally showed up this season, need more of this. His scenes are always great.

[CuckingFunt]

Stringer over Omar? :nope "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?!?"


Omar got killed as the series and his career was winding down though. Stringer went down in his prime. :cry

These seem to be the two big deaths in the series that people are bothered by (well, and Bodie), and every time I've had this conversation with friends it seems that the people who watched the show as it aired were bothered more by Omar's death and the people who marathoned the show long after it ended are more bothered by Stringer's death. That's not universally given, of course, but it's a trend that I've noticed.

As someone who marathoned, I was definitely more shocked/bummed by Stringer's death just because it was a finished product and I knew I still had two, full, Stringer-free seasons left to watch. As it turns out, of course, the show coped just fine without Stringer Bell, and I still liked those last two seasons. But at the time it happened, Bell had been built up as such a huge character that I couldn't imagine what the remaining episodes would be like without him. In that sense, I think the stakes were higher with Stringer's death.

Omar's death, on the other hand, was shocking more for the particulars of when/how it happened than for the fact that it happened. When you know you're at the last few episodes of a long running series, you expect all the major plot points and character arcs to be sealed off. And when the show is a crime drama, you know that several of those arcs are going to end in death. So in that sense, the fact characters start dropping is less of a surprise in general, but also the "what are they going to do without Omar?" question is less important because it only applied to two episodes. Omar is ultimately gone for a longer stretch of time when he's in New York and in Puerto Rico than when he's dead just because of how the timeline works out.

[CuckingFunt]

Thought this was a great episode until the last few minutes.
With Mike's experience, I don't think he makes the mistake of giving Walt any way to escape.

It's a big leap to make, I think, but perhaps a necessary one. In order to buy that Mike would continue to try and work with him, I think we have to believe that Mike has been genuinely outfoxed by Walt and that he knows it.

[The Gemini Method]

How many would've taken the 5mil and how many would've stayed building 'empires'?

[CuckingFunt]

How many would've taken the 5mil and how many would've stayed building 'empires'?

I would have taken the $5 million.

I would have been disappointed in the show if they had Walt consider it for even a second, though. I loved the moment when he finally tied it all to Grey Matter and made explicit what has already been implied since the first season: that Walter White has always been a greedy and bitter bastard and that the cancer just gave him the excuse to act on it.

[baseline bum]

How many would've taken the 5mil and how many would've stayed building 'empires'?

I would have stuck with the empire. Taking the $5 million would have been a half-measure, and if you're going to break the law, you gotta break it big so you can buy your way out of trouble like the Wall Street crooks.

[VBM]

These seem to be the two big deaths in the series that people are bothered by (well, and Bodie), and every time I've had this conversation with friends it seems that the people who watched the show as it aired were bothered more by Omar's death and the people who marathoned the show long after it ended are more bothered by Stringer's death. That's not universally given, of course, but it's a trend that I've noticed.

As someone who marathoned, I was definitely more shocked/bummed by Stringer's death just because it was a finished product and I knew I still had two, full, Stringer-free seasons left to watch. As it turns out, of course, the show coped just fine without Stringer Bell, and I still liked those last two seasons. But at the time it happened, Bell had been built up as such a huge character that I couldn't imagine what the remaining episodes would be like without him. In that sense, I think the stakes were higher with Stringer's death.

Omar's death, on the other hand, was shocking more for the particulars of when/how it happened than for the fact that it happened. When you know you're at the last few episodes of a long running series, you expect all the major plot points and character arcs to be sealed off. And when the show is a crime drama, you know that several of those arcs are going to end in death. So in that sense, the fact characters start dropping is less of a surprise in general, but also the "what are they going to do without Omar?" question is less important because it only applied to two episodes. Omar is ultimately gone for a longer stretch of time when he's in New York and in Puerto Rico than when he's dead just because of how the timeline works out.

I guess we're past spoiler alerts for the uninformed. Sorry. :lol (then again, if you ain't watched it by now...wtf).

Stringer got a proper death. He double-crossed Avon, Brother Mouzone and Omar...it was poetic justice that it came back to bite him, and that Omar/Mouzone pulled the trigger. String stopped with the begging quick, manned up and took the death in stride.

Omar's bugs me simply because Marlow never had to face him once Omar was warring with his crew. That and %$#^%$ Kenard of all people (although pretty awesome given he was the kid that wanted to play Omar after that one shootout in the street) is the one to drop him.

[leemajors]

Saul has always delivered the goods.

[resistanze]

I would have stuck with the empire. Taking the $5 million would have been a half-measure, and if you're going to break the law, you gotta break it big so you can buy your way out of trouble like the Wall Street crooks.

Too much risk at that point. Well actually, he honestly doesn't give a fuck about his family or getting killed/caught, so you may be right.

[shyne]

From Aaron Paul's twitter account

@aaronpaul_8: Two more episodes to go this season of #Breakingbad and I am terrified for you all to see how it goes down. Get ready for the madness.

[baseline bum]

Too much risk at that point. Well actually, he honestly doesn't give a fuck about his family or getting killed/caught, so you may be right.

Skylar can catch what she catches. Plus the baby is probably another Trig level retard since Skylar was beyond 40 at the time of birth. On the downside, Hank is a pretty cool drinking partner, as is special olympics boy. Overall, the risk is worth it though.

[Trainwreck2100]

baby's as good as dead, they put her in a pink bear outfit

[baseline bum]

I wanna see Heisenberg bone Marie.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

how many would've taken the 5mil and how many would've stayed building 'empires'?

5

[Lincoln]

Is this the first time Walt admitted that he was Heisenberg to someone out of his inner circle?

[redzero]

I wanna see Heisenberg bone Marie.

A Lydia is fine, too.

[VBM]

Is this the first time Walt admitted that he was Heisenberg to someone out of his inner circle?

He told Tuco before he blew up his stash-house

[Capt Bringdown]

For someone as smart as Mike with him evading the DEA an all, I thought it was retarded for him to just leave Walt tied with a single plastic strap in a room full of random shit. Didn't think det one through tbh.


Why keep Walt around at all at that point?
The poor writing this season continues.

[redzero]

Why keep Walt around at all at that point?
The poor writing this season continues.

Jesse wouldn't be too happy about Mike killing Walt.

[Trainwreck2100]

Why keep Walt around at all at that point?
The poor writing this season continues.

where was he going to put him

[BlackSwordsMan]

Yeah that was a dumb scene leaving walt a fucking genius pretty much alone in a room with one plastic wrap from a 55 million dollar tub of meth.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

:lol Didn't Walt and Jesse steal their first quantity of methylamine when they decided that they couldn't scale their operation by crushing and cooking Sudafed? No one died that time, though.

[Juggity]

I'm thinking Walt Jr. is going to end up on meth.

His sulky behavior and recent lack of steady presence has me wondering if it may be going in that direction. Not to mention the great irony of Walt Jr. becoming addicted to Walt's own meth. That would be an interesting twist.

[baseline bum]

I'm thinking Walt Jr. is going to end up on meth.

His sulky behavior and recent lack of steady presence has me wondering if it may be going in that direction. Not to mention the great irony of Walt Jr. becoming addicted to Walt's own meth. That would be an interesting twist.

He's going to smash that Challenger to shit while high off the blue stuff.

[Spur|n|Austin]

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/dar-monday-110.jpg?w=500&h=636

[Proxy]

I'm thinking Walt Jr. is going to end up on meth.

His sulky behavior and recent lack of steady presence has me wondering if it may be going in that direction. Not to mention the great irony of Walt Jr. becoming addicted to Walt's own meth. That would be an interesting twist.

That's way too convenient

[Trainwreck2100]

what would really piss off walt is jr getting hooked on an inferior meth

[monosylab1k]

:lmao the dinner scene was one of the funniest things i've seen in a long time

[HeatChamps]

Walt needs to die. Old fuck he is. Jesse should kill him.

[leemajors]

:lmao the dinner scene was one of the funniest things i've seen in a long time

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m91jmyLLHS1reoublo1_250.gif

[Capt Bringdown]

:lmao the dinner scene was one of the funniest things i've seen in a long time

Enjoyed the humor as well, which has been missing from the show for quite some time now.

[AussieFanKurt]

Just started watching... fucking hell Skylar is annoying.

[JudynTX]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m91jmyLLHS1reoublo1_250.gif

:rollin:rollin Best scene of the episode! The expression on Jesse's face when Walt told him Skylar was waiting for him to die. Priceless.

[The Gemini Method]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424612_10151179506699493_867192403_n.jpg

[baseline bum]

16NtVDLcP9U

[baseline bum]

dp

[baseline bum]

If they do it right--no. I mean, you had to wait a year or so for the new Mad Men and Michel Wiener pulled it off nicely for the return season. I think the writing in BB is so good that they'll be able to hold the interest of the audience and keep us fans' interest piqued for the show.

When does Mad Men start getting good? I watched the first episode and a half of the series and was bored to death. Do I have to eat my vegetables for the first 4-5 episodes for the show to payoff, or is the series like the first two episodes of season 1?

[CuckingFunt]

When does Mad Men start getting good? I watched the first episode and a half of the series and was bored to death. Do I have to eat my vegetables for the first 4-5 episodes for the show to payoff, or is the series like the first two episodes of season 1?

It took me a solid four or five episodes to get into Mad Men.

For your last question... I would say that, yes, the whole series is like the first two episodes of the first season, but that's not a bad thing. The pace never really accelerates, but the world draws you in.

[baseline bum]

I'll give it a couple more episodes then, but I can't say I have been all that drawn into 1960's Madison Avenue yet.

[Spurminator]

Once I caught up with Mad Men, it was perfect once-a-week viewing.

[resistanze]

That might be the best intro in BB history, tbh.

[baseline bum]

LOL, great opening sequence.

[baseline bum]

That might be the best intro in BB history, tbh.

You're goddamned right.

[Trainwreck2100]

sick

[stxspurs]

shit just got real!!!!

[baseline bum]

So when does Skyler fuck Jesse?

[redzero]

:lol Oh Walt.

[resistanze]

He gon' shoot Mike.

[resistanze]

Yep.

[redzero]

That's it. Mike is finished.

[TE]

dang

[Wild Cobra Kai]

The ball is most definitely rolling faster downhill now. Wow. I think Walt still thinks things are controllable, but Mike was more than logistics and supply, he was security. I think Declan and Co. are going to come into ABQ and just roll up the whole operation, and chase Walt out of town.

[InRareForm]

say my name