2010 Texas Rangers

[crc21209]

The Rangers just rented Jorge Cantu. Gave up Evan Reed and Omar Poveda. Cantu has some good intangibles with some clutchness and fire to his game...plus he's a right-hand bat who can play 1B.

+1. Good move for the Rangers. :tu

[Cant_Be_Faded]

CJ Wilson out
looks like they need to rack up some runs or this one is a wash

[Whisky Dog]

Close game, need to get this win to get it back up to 8.5 game lead.

The sched is freaking tough - 5 at home against the Yanks, the Red Sox, Rays, Twins still on the schedule. Need to pad that lead now as much as possible and keep winning series against tough opponents.

F'n ogando fucking shit up. Better get out of this with a lead

[Cant_Be_Faded]

wilson should have gone at least 7 innings against this team

now the rangers have to score like 2-3 more runs or this is a loss for sure

[Texas Chili Dog]

Murphy HR!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

theres 1....

[Texas Chili Dog]

wow Moreland just missed that one. He's making a nice first impression.

[Spursfan092120]

Teagarden hitting like Ham-bone? GG MLB

[Texas Chili Dog]

hahahahaha WTF is Teagarden doing getting a hit, much less a home run?? :rollin

[Cant_Be_Faded]

theres 2.

Should be okay as long as the big, long, black one doesn't lay an egg.
Just keep a two run lead and Feliz can do the damn thing.

[Spursfan092120]

hahahahaha WTF is Teagarden doing getting a hit, much less a home run?? :rollin
:lol Exactly what I was thinking....Washington must have known something..lol

[Spursfan092120]

theres 2.

Should be okay as long as the big, long, black one doesn't lay an egg.
Just keep a two run lead and Feliz can do the damn thing.
Feliz will be fine...dude doesn't give up save opps...course we may get enough of a cushion where it's not a save opp anyway.

[BUMP]

Smart move by Washington tweaking a struggling offense.

The replacements

Murphy: HR
Teagarden: 2 run HR
Moreland: 1st baseball hit

And then of course it doesn't hurt when Hamilton and Young go 7-8. Rangers have some nice depth

[Texas Chili Dog]

Hi win column, how you doin? :D

Magic # = 53

sig updates automatically. Just don't know when.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Chris Davis has been sent down to AAA. Cantu and Moreland will share first base.

[EricB]

Would've preferred to go with Wigginton over Cantu due to the fact he could play second and would be handy right now with Kins on the DL.

Cantu though is solid, don't know if hes every day first base for a contender quality, but solid.

[Edward]

Cantu has been a really good producer for the Marlins the past two years (and he did used to play 2nd base on the Rays so he could probably still do it on spot duty). Good pickup for the Rangers.

[EricB]

Yeah its better than what they've been getting offensive wise out of first base no question and will be excited to see what he can do tonight against Anaheim tonight.

This series will go a long ways to winning the division due to the BRUTAL schedule coming up in August...

[EricB]

Need someone to fill in at second? Eh, we'll just go get Cristian Guzman :lol

Ridiculous!

[Texas Chili Dog]

CJ Wilson was on ustream earlier if anyone is interested...

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8612418

[EricB]

:lol I like Wilson. I'm probably in the minority. I like how he's really accessible to the fans and a really down to earth guy. Damn being here in the OC this weekend and can't go to one single game :pctoss

[EricB]

What happens next, Arias sent down to make room for Guzman?

[Whisky Dog]

Probably. Guzman should take over 2nd and be the utility guy once Kinsler decides he's gonna play nice and not swing on 3-0 pitches and not fucking lose games single handedly with stupidity and errors.

Apparently JD tried to go all in and offer the top three Rangers prospects for Josh Johnson, but the Marlins declined b

[Whisky Dog]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/0731010dnsporangersbankruptcy.528f355.html

Apparently Greenburg struck a new deal with the bankruptcy man Snyder, Cuban pissed. Not sure if it will halt the auction though.

[Melmart1]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/0731010dnsporangersbankruptcy.528f355.html

Apparently Greenburg struck a new deal with the bankruptcy man Snyder, Cuban pissed. Not sure if it will halt the auction though.

It;s already been announced that the judge rejected this. The auction will still take place August 4th.

Please please please don't let Cuban win. Arghhhh!

[MarkCuban]

Relax guys, I have a few moves that I have already decided to make to ensure success once I buy the team.

1. I'm gonna trade Josh Hamilton for Corey Patterson.

Corey was a top pick and he's gonna pan out sooner or later while Hamilton hasn't proved anything in this league.

2. Let Cliff Lee walk and bring back Sidney Ponson

Sidney Ponson was 5-0 against the Angels. 'Nuff said

3. Trade Young, Kinsler, Cruz, and Andruz for Sammy Sosa

This is a steal imo. Sosa's bat was the lone bright spot while he was here. While all four of those guys are decent players, combined I don't think they bring what Sammy brings

[EricB]

Probably. Guzman should take over 2nd and be the utility guy once Kinsler decides he's gonna play nice and not swing on 3-0 pitches and not fucking lose games single handedly with stupidity and errors.

Apparently JD tried to go all in and offer the top three Rangers prospects for Josh Johnson, but the Marlins declined b

:lol

Kinsler is fine.

[EricB]

It;s already been announced that the judge rejected this. The auction will still take place August 4th.

Please please please don't let Cuban win. Arghhhh!


No kidding......

Cuban owning the Rangers would be gut wrenching.

[Texas Chili Dog]

No kidding......

Cuban owning the Rangers would be gut wrenching.

...for Spurs fans. :p:

But honestly, as much as I like Cuban and know that he would bring plenty of $$$ with him to the team, I'd still much rather have Nolan be the guy. It would suck so much to see him go.

[badfish22]

I want cuban to focus on the mavs

[EricB]

...for Spurs fans. :p:

But honestly, as much as I like Cuban and know that he would bring plenty of $$$ with him to the team, I'd still much rather have Nolan be the guy. It would suck so much to see him go.

Terribly gut wrenching.


Im scared of him bringing his interference to the Rangers as he did and does with the Mavericks.

[EricB]

Financial guy on 105.3 thinks Cuban will win the bidding easily because Greenburgh has no financial backing.

:depressed

[EricB]

aandro (http://twitter.com/aandro)
Rich Harden starting for #Rangers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rangers) Saturday with Scott Feldman in the bullpen.

[Texas Chili Dog]

aandro (http://twitter.com/aandro)
Rich Harden starting for #Rangers (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rangers) Saturday with Scott Feldman in the bullpen.

oh god, not Harden. Pretty much a lateral move IMO.

[Whisky Dog]

It;s already been announced that the judge rejected this. The auction will still take place August 4th.

Please please please don't let Cuban win. Arghhhh!

Well that's it, now our team is owned by Mark freaking Cuban.

So much for Cuban's bullshit that he just wanted to help Ryan and Greenburg get the process through, as soon as the deal was struck by Greenburg Cuban's lawyers went apeshit.

Two faced mother fucker.

[EricB]

Listening to the financial guy on 105.3 today though, Cuban would be best for the LT health of the team. Greenburgh has no money its all backers.

Cuban obviously is loaded beyond belief.

So if Cuban gets the team and can get Ryan and Daniels to stay and stays out of their business, then IMO thats the best move for all.



Also, for everyone wanting Davis gone, remember guys like Nelson Cruz and Ryan Ludwick.

Cruz didn't start clicking till 28. Ludwick till he was finally healthy two years ago.


Davis is a DAMN good DAMN good defensive first baseman, and IMO, they should be prudent to NOT trade him unless its part of something for a very good player..

[Whisky Dog]

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[Texas Chili Dog]

Yeah I'd hate to lose Davis because of what he brings defensively. If he was average at best, I'd have no problem never seeing him again.

Also, Cuban being owner would give us a better chance of re-signing Cliff Lee. And I know all of us would love to see that happen.

[EricB]

Yeah I think getting Cuban finally puts them into the echelon they should be.

The echelon of higher paying teams due to their market. For far too long and people have pointed this out I agree, they've operated under a small market idea when they reside in one of the BIGGEST cities in america.

If Cuban got fast tracked, he could afford to keep Cruz, Hambone Lee and others around.

The financial analyst also pointed out Greenburgh's way of running the team would be on they would need to "turn a profit" yeah, in other words unless they sell out they are gonna be the Marlins.

Give me Cuban.

[Whisky Dog]

Listening to the financial guy on 105.3 today though, Cuban would be best for the LT health of the team. Greenburgh has no money its all backers.

Cuban obviously is loaded beyond belief.

So if Cuban gets the team and can get Ryan and Daniels to stay and stays out of their business, then IMO thats the best move for all.



Also, for everyone wanting Davis gone, remember guys like Nelson Cruz and Ryan Ludwick.

Cruz didn't start clicking till 28. Ludwick till he was finally healthy two years ago.


Davis is a DAMN good DAMN good defensive first baseman, and IMO, they should be prudent to NOT trade him unless its part of something for a very good player..

Seriously? What has Cuban ever done to suggest that he is at all willing to lay down a shit load of money for the team then just turn it over to JD and Nolan? He's a Jerry Jones type personality and he will be running everything and calling all the shots. All trades, drafts, FAs, player personnel, managerial personnel will be decided by him. Chances are he will do the same knee jerk trades and player moves that he did to fuck up the Mavs the last 4 years.

Also, Cuban just back stabbed Nolan and Greenburg after saying over and over that he wanted to help them and be a "back stop" to the deal that gets them ownership. Now he's gone and done this and will outbid them for the team. What would make anyone think Nolan will stick around to work for Cuban? There's no way in hell Nolan sticks around while Cuban calls all the shots.

The only chance is that Cuban spends so much money that they win with sheer talent despite his baseball ignorance.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Cuban getting the team would be the best thing to ever happen to the Rangers. He will do for them exactly what he did for Dallas. Turn them from the laughing stock of the league to annual contenders.

He saved the Mavericks franchise and made them a top tier team for years. The Rangers have never been close to that level. Say what you want about the Mavs choking and what not on the big stage, but the Rangers have never even been close to the big stage. They have 1 playoff win in franchise history.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Cuban getting the team would be the best thing to ever happen to the Rangers. He will do for them exactly what he did for Dallas. Turn them from the laughing stock of the league to annual contenders.

He saved the Mavericks franchise and made them a top tier team for years. The Rangers have never been close to that level. Say what you want about the Mavs choking and what not on the big stage, but the Rangers have never even been close to the big stage. They have 1 playoff win in franchise history.

It wouldn't be quite the same because, while the Rangers have never been a successful franchise, we are far from the laughing stock of MLB. The Pirates fit that description. Plus Cuban wouldn't be taking over the team while we suck like he did with the Mavs.

That said, I agree that Cuban would be a great addition. The thing that sucks would be to see Ryan go.

[MavDynasty]

I want cuban to focus on the mavs

:cry He has the past decade and still cant win shit :cry :cry


/spurfan

[Melmart1]

This is clearly a business decision for Cuban. He doesn't love the Rangers the way he does the Mavs. Assuming he would spend cash is ridiculous. You don't spend a ton of money on something that is clearly an investment. If he thought of it as anything other than an investment, he would have joined the fray months ago.

And Nolan would NEVER stay, why should he? To work for the guy who stabbed him in the back and took away the team he wanted so much to buy? A team he clearly loves? Nope, Nolan would be gone.

[sribb43]

We STAAAACCCKKKKKEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!

[dallaskd]

what an odd game so far tonight

[sribb43]

Looks like Hamilton is hurt and Hunter decided to pitch like Harden and Feldman tonight :bang

[EricB]

Hamilton is hurt?

[EricB]

Someone wanna tell me why Matt Harrison is on this team? He sucks. There HAS to be someone at AAA better....

[dallaskd]

Someone wanna tell me why Matt Harrison is on this team? He sucks. There HAS to be someone at AAA better....

Lee, Hunter, Wilson, and Lewis is a solid 4 man rotation. If Feldman can pitch like we know he can.. then we are in good shape :tu

Harrison sucks, but will be pretty good in a few years imo

[Texas Chili Dog]

What a shitty game. The only bright side I can think of is the fact that we'd lose only a half game on our lead, since the A's and Angels would switch places.

hahaha oh and our magic number actually still went down one because of the A's loss. My own sig reminded me of that fact.

[Whisky Dog]

Hunter was due to get blasted.

Harrison had pitched a gem in long relief last time out.

Cliff Lee is gonna be needed to make sure we don't get swept. As long as we don't get swept we'll be fine

[Texas Chili Dog]

If Harden gets a quality start tomorrow, I will run around my apartment complex in my birthday suit.

Don't quote me opn this because I'm under the influence.

[ducks]

Financial guy on 105.3 thinks Cuban will win the bidding easily because Greenburgh has no financial backing.

:depressed

good

someone with big pockets has to try to keep up with the big 5 spenders

[dallaskd]

Cuban as majority owner would be amazing.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Fuck, this loss is depressing. Man I'm gonna feel like shiyte in the mornin.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao @ dumbass Spur fans letting their personal feelings about Cuban get in the way of the fact that he'd be a terrific owner for the Rangers.

Having Nolan in the organization isn't that big a deal, imo. The success of the Rangers has more to do with Jon Daniels maturing into a very good GM, Ron Washington developing into a very good manager, and Mike Maddux.

[monosylab1k]

Fuck, this loss is depressing. Man I'm gonna feel like shiyte in the mornin.

One game. We still have the biggest division lead in baseball.

If the Angels sweep, then there's a reason to be depressed. Even if the Rangers only take 1 game in this series, that's okay. At this point, it's not about fighting for the division, it's about gearing up for the playoffs.

[EricB]

:lmao @ dumbass Spur fans letting their personal feelings about Cuban get in the way of the fact that he'd be a terrific owner for the Rangers.

Having Nolan in the organization isn't that big a deal, imo. The success of the Rangers has more to do with Jon Daniels maturing into a very good GM, Ron Washington developing into a very good manager, and Mike Maddux.

The only problems I'd have is him trying to get in the way of things like he does with the Mavericks.


Having Ryan IMO is a big reason for the turnaround the last couple years. Organizational attitude top to bottom and all that stuff....

[dallaskd]

The only problems I'd have is him trying to get in the way of things like he does with the Mavericks.

what the hell are you talking about?

[EricB]

what the hell are you talking about?


Yeah what was I thinking that Cuban injects himself into the operations of the Mavericks.

Jason Kidd?

Caron Butler?

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

Yeah what was I thinking that Cuban injects himself into the operations of the Mavericks.

Jason Kidd?

Caron Butler?
yea because those are 2 of the worst players in NBA history, right? faggot.

you are one dumb piece of horse shit, you know that?
fuck you and your shitty ass posts you god damned moron.

[BUMP]

Didn't catch any of the game last night, but we're still fucking 8 games ahead, so i'm not worried at all :smokin

[Whisky Dog]

Yeah what was I thinking that Cuban injects himself into the operations of the Mavericks.

Jason Kidd?

Caron Butler?

Definitely what I'm concerned about. He took a NBA finals team and smashed it apart with knee jerk trades. Kidd is a defensive liability and has been a horrible fit for that team.

Also, I agree with melmart that this is clearly just a business deal with Cuban and not his passion. The Rangers will be the step kid in this and not get as many resources as these fools are thinking

[MavDynasty]

Mono with the goods

[Texas Chili Dog]

The Rangers have traded Salty?? :lol

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/red-sox-acquire-jarrod-saltalamacchia.html

[EricB]

Avery is the one who demanded the Devin Harris trade. He told Mark to "get me a real point guard". Mark/Donnie orchestrated a deal to meet AVERY'S demand. How is that injecting himself? He's giving the head coach the players he wants to work with. Just because Avery failed miserably with Kidd and tried to rewrite history doesn't mean suddenly Cuban is to blame.

And you're fucking retarded if you think trading an injury prone Josh Howard (with a shitty attitude to boot) for Caron Butler was a bad idea.


It was a fine trade.

As long as your ok with your owner meddling with team affairs.


Its not the quality of the trade its the point the owner getting involved with the team as such.


Its why I can't stand Jerry Jones and him thinking he's a GM.

The owner should stick to owner ship and day to day BUSINESS dealings with the team.

The GM runs the club from the field part of the team. That simple IMO and I wouldn't want an owner to meddle with the team.


insult me all you want its just an opinion and you guys don't have to get asshurt over it and insult the shit out of me over it.

[EricB]

The Rangers have traded Salty?? :lol

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/red-sox-acquire-jarrod-saltalamacchia.html


Yeah I don't see how Texas can view Ramirez and Teagarden as better than him.

Retarded.

[Solid D]

Yeah I don't see how Texas can view Ramirez and Teagarden as better than him.

Retarded.

Yeah, he got the yips when throwing the ball back to the pitcher, etc. and although he had worked through that issue for the most part, I think his health problems soured the Rangers on him.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah I don't see how Texas can view Ramirez and Teagarden as better than him.

Retarded.

Teagarden is about 10000000000000000x better defensively than Salty or Ramirez. And considering you have a massive hard-on for Chris Davis' defense despite the fact that he's godawful at the plate, Teagarden should be right up your alley.

[monosylab1k]

As long as your ok with your owner meddling with team affairs.

Steinbrenner meddled all the time. Next.

[Whisky Dog]

What knee jerk trade? Name one.

The Kidd trade wasn't Mark's idea, it was Avery's. So name a knee jerk trade that Mark was responsible for.

Thanks.

Nope, don't know who you're listening to but the Kidd trade was a big part Cuban's deal. I've heard it from more than a couple of sources here close to the Mavs, one of them being Cooperstein who said Cuban admitted it was a big part his idea and he felt Kidd could elevate Dirk to te next level. As usual he forgot about defense

Next.

[Whisky Dog]

If Cuban comes in and spends like crazy getting front line talent then I wouldn't mind him owning the club. The problem is that he isn't passionate about the Rangers, this is a business deal for him. He won't sink money to try to win like he does with the Mavs and take huge losses financially every year to compete payroll wise with the Yankees.

Tell me why any of you think differently. Give reasons. Tell me why Cuban wasn't chomping at the bit to get the Rangers this whole time if he's so passionate about them and is willing to spend big.

[EricB]

Teagarden is about 10000000000000000x better defensively than Salty or Ramirez. And considering you have a massive hard-on for Chris Davis' defense despite the fact that he's godawful at the plate, Teagarden should be right up your alley.


Players that are young and struggle at the plate NEVER turn it around.


Signed Nelson Cruz

[sribb43]

The Rangers have traded Salty?? :lol

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/red-sox-acquire-jarrod-saltalamacchia.html

2 years ago we could have traded Teagarden for Bucholz but rangers didnt want to move him and insisted Sox take Satly and Sox said no thanks.

2 years later TT blows, salty has the yips and Bucholz is a solid #2 in this league.

What a dissapointment Salty was...thats why you cant hold on to all your prospects bc most of them wont fulfill their expectations

[EricB]

Awesome seven innings by rich harden :tu

[sribb43]

ballgame!!!!!
Did we just acquire another SP at the deadline... i.e. Richie Rich

[Whisky Dog]

If he can bring that type stuff consistently for 3 months we're beasts.

[ducks]

haren great outing just like the dbacks no run support

[EricB]

I repeat something we uttered alot in may. Were the F would the rangers be without vladdy?!?!

[Texas Chili Dog]

WTF is Rich Harden doing actually pitching a good game? :rollin

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

This was a HUGE win. After this series we only have two more against LA. We don't even have to win these series against them, taking 1 out of 3 against them still leaves us in a good position.

In order for them to catch us, they have to dominate us head to head, and taking 1 out of 3 and only going from 9 to 8 games ahead is good enough in my book considering we're on the road.

Of course we have Lee tomorrow, so i totally expect to break their hearts and leave LA with a 10 game lead :toast

[EricB]

Up 10 in the loss column.

Pay attention to the loss columns peeps.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Hamilton is out of the lineup again today. Man I hope this is just precautionary rest he is getting and not being on the verge of landing on the DL. Looks like it could be another low scoring, little run support for Lee kinda game.

[EricB]

Sounds to me like a potential DL trip. Tendinitis, knee feels like its "giving way" not good.

Terrible time too with inter division games then Yankees Red Sox at home.

[Texas Chili Dog]

oh boy, not a good start for Lee. :(

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Bases loaded with Murphy coming up, let's get back in it

[EricB]

I don't understand platooning Cantu.

:wtf

[Texas Chili Dog]

This game isn't looking promising. But on the bright side, our magic # has already gone one down to 50 with the A's loss today. And we'll still be up at least 8 games.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Rangers are on the board with a Vladdy RBI double. Keep em coming, please!

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

If Weaver can pinpoint his pitches like he has today, i'd imagine he'd be one of the toughest pitchers in the game considering how hard it is to pick up the ball off of him

[EricB]

Not bowled over impressed with Guzman.

Bad at bats, just looks blah out there. If he didn't want to come he should've just stayed.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

He's only been here 2 days, I'd still take him over Arias.

Arias just looks like he doesn't belong on a baseball field sometimes.

[EricB]

Guzman to me looks like he's just pouting. Not giving up on him, just hasn't shown me much. Maybe expectations were a tad high I suppose.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Hamilton with a PH walk. Weaver was scared. C'mon Rangers, two men on.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

nice play there by Guzman

[sribb43]

Guzman to me looks like he's just pouting. Not giving up on him, just hasn't shown me much. Maybe expectations were a tad high I suppose.

Didn't notice any pouting when he hustled after that Rivera ball and through him out at 2nd

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Watching Lee pitch never gets old. Its gonna suck when he's gone:depressed

[Whisky Dog]

Thank God for Harden's performance.

Our lack of runs lately is signaling our Achilles heel. That is what will get us beaten in the playoffs if we can't fix it.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Thank God for Harden's performance.

Our lack of runs lately is signaling our Achilles heel. That is what will get us beaten in the playoffs if we can't fix it.

Before Hamilton got hurt we scored 7 runs in consecutive games

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

If we had Josh, I think we win. Murphy came up with the bases loaded and 1 out hitting in Hamilton's spot, and popped up getting no runs. If Hamilton was batting, guarantee we get atleast 1 run in

[dallaskd]

meh.. 1 of 3 is all we needed.

[ducks]

texas should have got swepted
dan haren pitched a hell of a game
complete game but lost

[Spursfan092120]

We got one of three
That's all we really needed
We're still 8 games up

[BUMP]

texas should have got swepted
dan haren pitched a hell of a game
complete game but lost

gr8 pst, u rly know ur baseball

[Spursfan092120]

gr8 pst, u rly know ur baseball
:lol

[Melmart1]

Back to the bankruptcy drama, Cuban has filed a motion to force MLB to hold the owner confirmation vote by August 16th so he can take control of the team. Doesn't seem like there is any precedent to this type of motion, so it will be interesting to see what the judge rules. he will have to rule tomorrow, since bids are due by 8:00 pm.

http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4595:mark-cuban-looks-to-forces-mlbs-hand-on-approval-in-texas-rangers-sale&catid=70:mlb-club-sales&Itemid=157

[Melmart1]

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/08/02/2378907/mark-cuban-would-never-treat-the.html

This sums up how angry I feel about Cuban's involvement in this whole bankruptcy mess. But, if he does become owner I hope that MLB confirms him quickly, or else our off-season is sunk and there will be no hope of signing any of our free agents. That could lead a promising team to take a giant step or two back, which is unacceptable to me. So if he is going to be owner, just let it be done already.

Still holding out hope for Greenburg/Ryan though.

[EricB]

I used to be 100% behind Greenburg Ryan until hearing from multiple people that Greenburg would run the team to be profitable which is a horrible way to run a ball club.
BUT Cuban might view this as a business venture as well. I dont know. we shall see how it works i suppose...

[EricB]

BTW if Cuban buying the team loses Nolan AND Daniels? Then that asshole better be ready for some F'ing negative feedback..

[Melmart1]

So .. it looks like it's down to Greenburg/Ryan and Cuban/Crane, who have apparently teamed up.. Cuban teaming up with Crane, who reneged on ownership of the Astros a few years back, seems bad. They might have a hard time getting confirmation from MLB this way, which would could stall the sale until well after the best free agents are already signed in the offseason.

I am surprised Cuban teamed up, although with the resources of both combined, they can surely beat anything that Greenburg/Ryan put out. But the vote by the owners, that scares me now.

**sigh**

Even when the team is on the verge of their first playoff run in over a decade, being a Rangers fan is still a punch in the gut sometimes.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2010/8/3/1603518/rangers-auction-down-to-three-or

[Melmart1]

BTW if Cuban buying the team loses Nolan AND Daniels? Then that asshole better be ready for some F'ing negative feedback..

I doubt Cuban cares about negative feedback. Especially from Spurs fans. :lol

[monosylab1k]

How is Cuban getting involved anything but a good thing?

I prefer Greenberg/Ryan but I'm not gonna piss and moan about Cuban owning the team.

Have you people forgotten the fucking asshole that's been running this team into the ground for the past decade plus? HE'LL BE GONE COMPLETELY regardless of if it's G&R or Cuban. That's cause for celebration for any true Ranger fan. Griping about Cuban is stupid.

[Spursfan092120]

How is Cuban getting involved anything but a good thing?

I prefer Greenberg/Ryan but I'm not gonna piss and moan about Cuban owning the team.

Have you people forgotten the fucking asshole that's been running this team into the ground for the past decade plus? HE'LL BE GONE COMPLETELY regardless of if it's G&R or Cuban. That's cause for celebration for any true Ranger fan. Griping about Cuban is stupid.
Agreed...not a huge Cuban fan, but the guy definitely spends money on his team..and didn't he say that he wanted to involve Nolan, anyway?

[monosylab1k]

Agreed...not a huge Cuban fan, but the guy definitely spends money on his team..and didn't he say that he wanted to involve Nolan, anyway?

He says he wants Nolan to stay with the team, but after cockblocking Nolan/Greenberg here, I doubt Nolan will want to stay.

Either way, Tom Hicks will be taken out of the picture completely. That's a happy day regardless of who owns the team.

[Spursfan092120]

He says he wants Nolan to stay with the team, but after cockblocking Nolan/Greenberg here, I doubt Nolan will want to stay.

Either way, Tom Hicks will be taken out of the picture completely. That's a happy day regardless of who owns the team.
Agreed..I'm so glad to get rid of that fuck. Problem is, Nolan is a man's man..dude won't stay around to be a symbol..he wants to be a part of the decisionmaking...if Cuban won't do it, Nolan will be gone. That's not what I want as a fan, but Cuban's better than Hicks being here.

[sribb43]

at the end of the day..

Cuban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hicks

[Spursfan092120]

at the end of the day..

Cuban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hicks
:tu

[Texas Chili Dog]

YES!! Orioles beat the Angels!! :clap

Buck Showalter makes a nice first impression.

[BUMP]

Baltimore just beating the AL West teams they're supposed to beat. No surprises here

[Melmart1]

I am not bitching about Cuban anymore, I have resigned myself to the thought of him owning the team. My only concern is that I don't know a damn thing about Crane or what kind of an owner he would be, and since he is taking the lead on his group with Cuban as the backstop, I am not sure how that will turn out.

Also, if they don't get a quick confirmation from MLB, this thing could drag out beyond Opening Day next season. That ruins the offseason. All I can hope for is a quick vote from MLB. But I am afraid they may stall in an attempt to get their favored group some time to sue or something. Because I truly believe that Bud Selig is an incompetent fool and would let something like that happen.

Yeah, Crane/Cuban are better than Hicks ... if MLB will approve them. Let's see how much of a tool Selig really is.

[crc21209]

Cuban...:td

[Whisky Dog]

How is Cuban getting involved anything but a good thing?

I prefer Greenberg/Ryan but I'm not gonna piss and moan about Cuban owning the team.

Have you people forgotten the fucking asshole that's been running this team into the ground for the past decade plus? HE'LL BE GONE COMPLETELY regardless of if it's G&R or Cuban. That's cause for celebration for any true Ranger fan. Griping about Cuban is stupid.

Why would you think he would run the team like he does the mavs? Cuban doesn't care about the Rangers the same way, he only popped up when a business deal could be made. Sounds like he wouldn't just sink money in it and take losses like he does with the mavs, he wants a profit from this one, and that's bad for the Rangers.

[Whisky Dog]

Before Hamilton got hurt we scored 7 runs in consecutive games


Since July 1st the Rangers have scored 3 runs or less in 17 of 29 games.

Vlad .209 3HR 17RBI
MY .248 4HR 9RBI
Elvis .215 3RBI
Julio .231 1HR 2RBI
Murphy .200 3HR 6RBI
Benji .196 2HR 8RBI
Smoak/CD .089 0HR 2RBI



This offense has been BAD for a month now. If that doesnt change immediately it will be their downfall.

[monosylab1k]

Why would you think he would run the team like he does the mavs? Cuban doesn't care about the Rangers the same way, he only popped up when a business deal could be made. Sounds like he wouldn't just sink money in it and take losses like he does with the mavs, he wants a profit from this one, and that's bad for the Rangers.

I didn't say he'd spend money like he does with the Mavericks. If you actually read my post, you'd know that all I said was this -

HE'S NOT TOM HICKS.

That's good enough for me to be overjoyed if he becomes the next owner. That alone.

And you're fucking retarded if you think he'd own the Rangers and not do whatever it took to win. Will he make them the Yankees/Red Sox with rampant spending? Probably not. But he won't turn them into the fucking Royals either.

[DoKdynasty]

Why would you think he would run the team like he does the mavs? Cuban doesn't care about the Rangers the same way, he only popped up when a business deal could be made. Sounds like he wouldn't just sink money in it and take losses like he does with the mavs, he wants a profit from this one, and that's bad for the Rangers.

How would you know this? What makes you think Cuban, someone who has already made more money than he knows what to do with, would treat the Rangers any different than he treats the Mavs? Multi-billionaires like Cuban don't buy pro sports teams as investments, they do it cause they want a toy to play with.

If Cuban bought the Rangers I'd find it to be very comparable to when Jerry Colangelo added a baseball team to Arizona (the Diamondbacks), only it would be even better for Dallas-FW than it was for Phoenix. They were/are both longtime owners of the NBA team in the city, neither one ever had a problem pouring money into the Suns/Mavericks, but they both make/made very similar mistakes trying to manage an NBA team I don't feel like explaining because the similarities are obvious

When Jerry Colangelo bought the Diamondbacks, they were an expansion team that basically had nobody and was starting from scratch. Fortunately in baseball their isn't a problem you can't solve by throwing money at it. Their 2nd year in the league they won 100 games and made the playoffs, and their 4th year they won a world series because Colangelo just poured money into the team. Cuban not only has significantly more spending power than Colangelo ever had, he'd be buying a team that already has enough talent to contend, and he's rich enough that he wouldn't have to sell the Rangers like Colangelo had to sell the D-Backs because of the money he lost buying a world series.

[sribb43]

Ryan/Greenberg delaying the auction so they can go to the ATM

[sribb43]

I didn't say he'd spend money like he does with the Mavericks. BIf you actually read my post, you'd know that all I said was this -

HE'S NOT TOM HICKS.

That's good enough for me to be overjoyed if he becomes the next owner. That alone.

And you're fucking retarded if you think he'd own the Rangers and not do whatever it took to win. Will he make them the Yankees/Red Sox with rampant spending? Probably not. But he won't turn them into the fucking Royals either.

Co-motherfuckin-Sign. If Nolan is gone that's unfortuante but in hope JD stays and all the other baseball people. Cubes is a smart man and he won't mess with a good thing. When he bought the mavs, he kept everyone in the front office when people thought he would clean house.

[monosylab1k]

How would you know this? What makes you think Cuban, someone who has already made more money than he knows what to do with, would treat the Rangers any different than he treats the Mavs? Multi-billionaires like Cuban don't buy pro sports teams as investments, they do it cause they want a toy to play with.

If Cuban bought the Rangers I'd find it to be very comparable to when Jerry Colangelo added a baseball team to Arizona (the Diamondbacks), only it would be even better for Dallas-FW than it was for Phoenix. They were/are both longtime owners of the NBA team in the city, neither one ever had a problem pouring money into the Suns/Mavericks, but they both make/made very similar mistakes trying to manage an NBA team I don't feel like explaining because the similarities are obvious

When Jerry Colangelo bought the Diamondbacks, they were an expansion team that basically had nobody and was starting from scratch. Fortunately in baseball their isn't a problem you can't solve by throwing money at it. Their 2nd year in the league they won 100 games and made the playoffs, and their 4th year they won a world series because Colangelo just poured money into the team. Cuban not only has significantly more spending power than Colangelo ever had, he'd be buying a team that already has enough talent to contend, and he's rich enough that he wouldn't have to sell the Rangers like Colangelo had to sell the D-Backs because of the money he lost buying a world series.

tbh this is just Spur fans getting pissy because they don't want big bad asshole Mark Cuban owning one of their teams.

:lol @ "I talked to Chuck Cooperstein and he told me Cuban was a dick! It has nothing to do with the fact that Coop and Randy Galloway tossed Avery's salad the entire time he was here, it's cuz he knows his stuff!"

[monosylab1k]

Cubes is a smart man


No he's not, he's a moron! He said the Riverwalk sucked :cry

[sribb43]

:lol spurs fan not wanting cubes as rangers owner bc they don't like the mavs

[Texas Chili Dog]

Today is the 17 year anniversary of Nolan Ryan's massacre of Robin Ventura. Easily the most memorable game I've ever attended. Fitting that it's on the day of the auction.

[Texas Chili Dog]

wow, don't see this too often...

http://photographyblog.dallasnews.com/assets_c/2010/08/NM_04RangersA-thumb-500x380-88211.jpg

:wow :lol

[Whisky Dog]

How would you know this? What makes you think Cuban, someone who has already made more money than he knows what to do with, would treat the Rangers any different than he treats the Mavs? Multi-billionaires like Cuban don't buy pro sports teams as investments, they do it cause they want a toy to play with.

If Cuban bought the Rangers I'd find it to be very comparable to when Jerry Colangelo added a baseball team to Arizona (the Diamondbacks), only it would be even better for Dallas-FW than it was for Phoenix. They were/are both longtime owners of the NBA team in the city, neither one ever had a problem pouring money into the Suns/Mavericks, but they both make/made very similar mistakes trying to manage an NBA team I don't feel like explaining because the similarities are obvious

When Jerry Colangelo bought the Diamondbacks, they were an expansion team that basically had nobody and was starting from scratch. Fortunately in baseball their isn't a problem you can't solve by throwing money at it. Their 2nd year in the league they won 100 games and made the playoffs, and their 4th year they won a world series because Colangelo just poured money into the team. Cuban not only has significantly more spending power than Colangelo ever had, he'd be buying a team that already has enough talent to contend, and he's rich enough that he wouldn't have to sell the Rangers like Colangelo had to sell the D-Backs because of the money he lost buying a world series.

Timing. He didn't come forward to buy the team until he saw a huge investment opportunity to make money. You don't realize these big money types don't ever feel they have enough. The mavs are his personal ambition to make successful at all costs, and the timing of his involvement here suggests he's in it to make a profitable deal, not spend crazy to win. We'll see.

[Whisky Dog]

I didn't say he'd spend money like he does with the Mavericks. If you actually read my post, you'd know that all I said was this -

HE'S NOT TOM HICKS.

That's good enough for me to be overjoyed if he becomes the next owner. That alone.

And you're fucking retarded if you think he'd own the Rangers and not do whatever it took to win. Will he make them the Yankees/Red Sox with rampant spending? Probably not. But he won't turn them into the fucking Royals either.

So trading Hicks for Cuban, who by all indications is sniffing an investment opportunity and that only, is trading one evil for another.

Rofl at you mav homers not looking at the situation and the timing of it all and seeing the Cuban owning the Rangers won't be the free spending Cuban owning the mavs.

[Whisky Dog]

Since July 1st the Rangers have scored 3 runs or less in 17 of 29 games.

Vlad .209 3HR 17RBI
MY .248 4HR 9RBI
Elvis .215 3RBI
Julio .231 1HR 2RBI
Murphy .200 3HR 6RBI
Benji .196 2HR 8RBI
Smoak/CD .089 0HR 2RBI



This offense has been BAD for a month now. If that doesnt change immediately it will be their downfall.

Nobody wants to talk about the real issue right now? This team can't fucking hit.

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

AAtta Boy, Whisky Dog, tell 'em what's up!!!

We all saw what that loser did to the Chokericks, so the Chokengers are destined to fail as well!!!!!

The Mavs had a 2-0 lead in the FInals and choked, so if Cuban bought the team they would strat to choke as well!!!!

[sribb43]

AAtta Boy, Whisky Dog, tell 'em what's up!!!

We all saw what that loser did to the Chokericks, so the Chokengers are destined to fail as well!!!!!

The Mavs had a 2-0 lead in the FInals and choked, so if Cuban bought the team they would strat to choke as well!!!!

Better to be chokers or a team that sits at the bottom of it's division annually and has no shot to win

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Better to be chokers or a team that sits at the bottom of it's division annually and has no shot to win

You're talking to someone else's troll above, i don't wanna give it away but its not a real poster.

When you see what Cuban turned the Mavericks into from what they were before, I'm ecstatic that he's going to try and become the Rangers owner. Any Mav fan from the 90's understands how much of a steaming pile of shit that franchise was. Getting to the Finals and choking away a 2-0 lead>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>flirting with the worst record in NBA History

[monosylab1k]

Rofl at you mav homers not looking at the situation and the timing of it all and seeing the Cuban owning the Rangers won't be the free spending Cuban owning the mavs.

prove it.

[monosylab1k]

When you see what Cuban turned the Mavericks into from what they were before, I'm ecstatic that he's going to try and become the Rangers owner.


Yeah but he hates the Spurs and he's a big mean ol' meanie :cry That means I don't want him owning the Rangers :cry


Any Mav fan from the 90's understands how much of a steaming pile of shit that franchise was. Getting to the Finals and choking away a 2-0 lead>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>flirting with the worst record in NBA History


lalalalalalala i can't hear you lalalalalalalalala he'll be a terrible owner because he's also making a smart business move in this whole thing, which works out logically only if you have a completely irrational hate for mark cuban lalalalalalalala

[monosylab1k]

Cuban wants a ballpark in downtown Dallas. You think he wants to open up a new ballpark with a shitty franchise that he invests no money into?

and tbh Jim Crane is loaded too. Even if Cuban has less interest in the Rangers than he does with the Mavericks, it's not like they still don't have Yankee money to spend either way.

[Spurminator]

Cuban wants to be loved by the City of Dallas. He's a narcissist, but he's very competitive. I don't see him running the Rangers any differently than the Mavs.

[badfish22]

Cuban wants to be loved by the City of Dallas.

Like that hasn't already happened.

[sribb43]

Cuban wants a ballpark in downtown Dallas. You think he wants to open up a new ballpark with a shitty franchise that he invests no money into?

and tbh Jim Crane is loaded too. Even if Cuban has less interest in the Rangers than he does with the Mavericks, it's not like they still don't have Yankee money to spend either way.

Or why would he want a network with the mavs/rangers games only to field a shitty team thus creating poor ratings. He will put the team in a position to win and that's all you can ask for in an owner

[dallaskd]

Or why would he want a network with the mavs/rangers games only to field a shitty team thus creating poor ratings. He will put the team in a position to win and that's all you can ask for in an owner

[dallaskd]

Got my tickets for both Yankees games next week

[Findog]

My only concern with Cuban owning the Rangers is losing both Ryan and JD, moreso JD since he deserves the bulk of the credit for turning this thing around.

Both Cuban and Greenberg/Ryan are a major upgrade over Hicks, but I don't want Cuban getting the team under these circumstances. There is a price to be paid when you basically elbow your way to the table, and I don't want the Rangers becoming a pariah organization that other franchises won't deal with. A lot of opposing GMs got all pissy after Moneyball was released and refused to deal with the A's, both because of all the pub Billy Beane got and the fear that he was going to hoodwink them if they dealt with him. I can see a Cuban-led Rangers franchise being a similar outcast organization since he couldn't get approved Country Club style like all the other prospective owners have to do.

[Texas Chili Dog]

O's are kicking the Angels' ass. A's won however.

[dallaskd]

The A's have the better shot of catching us at this point. LA just seems like they are done. CJ on the mound should get us a much needed win tonight. Lets hope the bats pick up before this tough stretch at home.

[BUMP]

The A's have the better shot of catching us at this point. LA just seems like they are done. CJ on the mound should get us a much needed win tonight. Lets hope the bats pick up before this tough stretch at home.

I can see the A's being a much more worthy contender then the Angels. The Angels have mailed it in IMO, they're gonna make big changes in the offseason. The A's are a scrappy bunch with some very good pitching so they are going to avoid long losing streaks and play us tough head to head.

I still think we'll be fine though

[sribb43]

Seems like Ryan/Greenberg are butt hurt and they know they cant compete with Cuban/Crane. They keep trying to protest everything

[Texas Chili Dog]

Right after I posted the Angels were losing bad, they scored 5 runs, so they are only down 3 now.

PS-

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2385/cubanbrawl.png

[dallaskd]

All the talk is on Cuban, but how much impact do you think Crane will have? Or is he just a financial backer?

[sribb43]

Greenberg/Ryan screwed themselves by declaring protection from bankruptcy

[Texas Chili Dog]

shitty start for CJ...

[sribb43]

Fuckin' CJ...walkin' a bunch of shitty ass hitters

[dallaskd]

Guzman played that ball terribly. That should have been end of inning.

[sribb43]

Pull him Wash...unexceptable. This is the CJ I was expecting to see this year

[sribb43]

Great AB Guzman :bang. He should be batting 9th, WTF is doing at the 7 hole?

[BUMP]

Holy Shit Guzman sucks

[dallaskd]

Great AB Guzman :bang. He should be batting 9th, WTF is doing at the 7 hole?

0-11 so far as a Ranger. I want Kinsler back..

[sribb43]

Mariners offense >>> Rangers offense

[EricB]

Guzman is a loser. He was content being with the loser nationals.

Part of the gamble when buying players from the worst team.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Feldman comes in for his first bullpen appearance of the year and immediately gives up a run. He sucks whether he starts or not. Please go away.

[dallaskd]

Guzman is a loser. He was content being with the loser nationals.

Part of the gamble when buying players from the worst team.

He is a two-time all star

[dallaskd]

Somehow I knew that ball was going to get robbed when it left that bat

[dallaskd]

Murphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Texas Chili Dog]

Murph dog!!!!!!!!!!

[Texas Chili Dog]

Somehow I knew that ball was going to get robbed when it left that bat

Yeah that play was like slow motion. It had the exact result I was expecting.

Nobody's bringin the Murphy ball back though.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Got a nice little rally going here after the HR. Moreland can hit.

[dallaskd]

Got a nice little rally going here after the HR. Moreland can hit.

I like Moreland. Looks like he may have some power from what ive seen as well.

[Texas Chili Dog]

I like Moreland. Looks like he may have some power from what ive seen as well.

If he can get close to as good as Davis was in scooping the ball and other defensive "activities" then we're in good shape at first.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Got this from another forum, updating the auction proceedings. Read from the bottom up:


greenberg's lawyer asks for 15 to 20 more minutes. will reconvene at 11 pm ct 26 minutes ago via mobile web
court has reconvened. greenberg group has not arrived. judge is sending a msg to them to at least show to request more time 28 minutes ago via mobile web
so this has devolved into chaos. there was to be a 5 min break 25 min ago: bidders were yelling at one another in open ct about 1 hour ago via mobile web
greenbergs group appears to be marching out in protest after a shouting match with the cro about 1 hour ago via mobile web
cuban's lawyer says his client is willing to bid $20 mln more to take to $355 mln about 2 hours ago via mobile web
cuban's lawyer: ''my client is prepared to own this team.'' about 2 hours ago via mobile web
greenbergs lawyer says he is not prepared to continue with the auction saying he has no faith in it about 2 hours ago via mobile web
greenberg's lawyer is protesting the process, says only 50 50 chance they can be approved by mlb about 2 hours ago via mobile web
cuban will bid $10 mln above every greenberg bid, says cro counsel about 2 hours ago via mobile web
CRO's counsel says he believes the 2 bids are neck and neck to buy tx rangers about 2 hours ago via mobile web
crane's lawyers just gave me a slice of pizza and a dr. pepper from their war room: after 12 hours that was akin to mana about 2 hours ago via mobile web
@bradleybclark mainly on the parties but if a judge is to blame its not nelms but lynn who allowed this accelerated process about 2 hours ago via mobile web in reply to bradleybclark
bids renewing at 9 pm ct judge nelms just said


What a mess. :bang

[Texas Chili Dog]

Young!!!!!!!

http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/salami.jpg

[dallaskd]

Andrus beats out a routine grounder, Young hits a grand slam. Ballgame, bitches.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

:owned

[sribb43]

11 runs, isn't that more than Mr Lee has gotten in his total starts combined with the Rangers

[Melmart1]

I am with Findog, I wonder how other owners would treat Cuban ... and Crane. Mostly Crane, I have sorta made peace with Cuban being the owner, but Crane to me is a complete mystery. I have no idea if he is cool with JD, or not. Really, Daniels is the trump card for me here ... if he stays, I am complacent. If he bolts, it could spell disaster.

Anyone got any intel on what Crane plans to do if/when he becomes owner?

[EricB]

Ryan greenburg win!!!!!

Cuban concedes!

[EricB]

WOW! What a turn of events.

Apparently the money is available next week.


Heres to hoping Greenburg and Ryan can up the payroll to where it belongs 110 and gets Hambone and Lee locked up and some FAs signed.

[dallaskd]

Nolan wins!

[sribb43]

Greenberg/Ryan it is....the new owners of your Texas Rangers

FUCK TOM HICKS, that rat bastard is history

[sribb43]

Cubes still comes out a winner buying up that debt

[dallaskd]

"tonight we got our swagger back and i hope nolan and mr. greenburg have some swagger too"

-Ron Ron

[badfish22]

Best outcome imho.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Don't mess with the Ryan Express!! :clap

[EricB]

Now the question is, how well funded is this group, and will they be able to operate without a problem and we won't have to hear any BS about "short on cash" when they operate this offseason and in the future.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Now the question is, how well funded is this group, and will they be able to operate without a problem and we won't have to hear any BS about "short on cash" when they operate this offseason and in the future.

We can start a donation drive here on the forum. Who's in?? :lol

[EricB]

Im well in.

My fiance is a teacher and has just bought up a bunch of notepads folders pens pencils for her classroom :lol

When we visited near the end of May for the Cubs series we bought a bunch of t shirts hats and other items.

Now that I know the owners, they will get my money.


First piece of biz the new owners have IMO is locking up John Daniels.

[Melmart1]

Greenberg already said that they are still going after Lee in the offseason!

Eric, what did I tell you about just being happy tonight? :lol

[EricB]

I am happy damnt!!! :lol

[Texas Chili Dog]

What a great day. Next game I go to, which will be soon, I am going straight to the fan shop to buy a bunch of stuff. Take my $ Nolan!!! :lol

[dallaskd]

My heart wanted Cubes, but this is probably best. A new stadium in downtown Dallas would have been soo badass though..

[EricB]

My heart wanted Cubes, but this is probably best. A new stadium in downtown Dallas would have been soo badass though..

A new stadium? WTF is wrong with Rangers Ballpark? Plus its only like 15 years old! It just needs updated stuff added and a big screen.

The big screen most of all :lol

[dallaskd]

A new stadium? WTF is wrong with Rangers Ballpark? Plus its only like 15 years old! It just needs updated stuff added and a big screen.

The big screen most of all :lol

I love the ballpark. It's what I grew up going to, but a state of the art facility downtown would have been sick and looked amazing at night.

[Melmart1]

I am happy damnt!!! :lol

OK. Just making sure. :)

[dallaskd]

Got my Rangers sig just in time for the drive to October

[EricB]

I love the ballpark. It's what I grew up going to, but a state of the art facility downtown would have been sick and looked amazing at night.

Hmm true, I think the problem with selling someone on a new baseball stadium would be, this one isn't old at all.

[EricB]

Damn look Elvis without all the hair :lol

[sribb43]

It's probably best that GnR won bc they would have made an appeal and this shit would have dragged on even longer.

Greenberg....it's time to get that HD board in the outfield

[Whisky Dog]

prove it.

Cuban just proved it for me. If he really wanted the team, if he really wanted to spend Yankee type money and make them perennial winners, he would have bid a lot more to make sure he landed the team. He went into it with a set ceiling numbering mind for a business deal, and decided that anything more would not make it a profitable enough business deal to bother pursuing. Once it hit that number he backed out.


So Cuban wanted the team so bad to spend Yankee money and please all you little mav homers BUT he wouldn't go over 385? :lmao

[Whisky Dog]

Cubes still comes out a winner buying up that debt

Not really, he only bought 1 million worth so he won't make much of anything in his terms, the reason he did it was because he wanted to look at the organization's financial situation and just any outsider can't do that since it's a privately held organization. By being a creditor of even a small amount he could gain access to their books and formulate a plan to follow to make a business decision that would make him money.

It looks like his plan was to move the team to Dallas (which still needs to happen), up the value of the franchise, then bail with a profit. Wouldn't have been the end of the world, but he would have upped the value by venue change to a much more profit friendly location than BFE Arlington and not necessarily going all out Yankee style to win. He would have lost money if he did that, not banked which was his intention obviously.

[Whisky Dog]

A new stadium? WTF is wrong with Rangers Ballpark? Plus its only like 15 years old! It just needs updated stuff added and a big screen.

The big screen most of all :lol

Here's the best way to describe why the Rangers need to move to Dallas, and why Cuban was interested in the first place. Keep in mind Cuban already owns property in South Dallas, Downtown Dallas, and another location just off downtown, all with access to Dart stations:

"1) Even though it is only sixteen years old, at that age it is older than two-thirds of the major league ballparks in use today. And that obsolescence can be seen throughout the Ballpark, which has an antiquated videoboard and no retractable roof. Architecturally, it goes against every trend in new ballpark construction (e.g., fewer seats closer to the playing field, open concourse so fans can watch the game and get a beer at the same time) such that it looks dated in serious ways.

2) It doesn't maximize revenue possibilities. When you look at new Yankee Stadium, there are massive revenue opportunities with field-level club seats taht the Ballpark is just not able to take advantage of. The Yankees are charging $1,250/seat for seats that are in the first five rows. The Rangers will never get away with charging that regardless of whether they're in Arlington or Dallas. But they tried to put these two rows of club seats in last year, and they just don't match up. The Yankee Stadium seats have a club right behind those seats. Of course they have waiter service, but if you want a beer now you can go to the club and get a beer and be back in 60 seconds. The Ballpark's comparable club seats right behind the plat only have club access to the Cuervo Club, which is all the way at the top of the section and from which you can't take your beer.

I won't even go into how shitty the mezzanine club seats are, or how poorly designed the suite levels are. Suffice it to say the club section is always poorly sold, and the Rangers have never been able to sell out their suites. And that's a real problem in large part because . . .

3) They're leaving a lot of money on the table by not being in Dallas. The fact of the matter is that when you look at the corporate entities that buy suites--law firms, banks, accounting firms, brokerage firms--they're all located in Dallas. None of them are located in Arlington. If you're a suite holder that wants to use the suite to entertain clients, it's a pain in the ass to have the stadium in Arlington (I say this from experience having been with a firm that had a suite for awhile, most of the time it went completely unused). If the suite were in downtown Dallas, however, it would be a lot easier to find clients who could go to a game in teh suite, even if they only wnated to stay seven innings before going home to Plano."

[monosylab1k]

Cuban just proved it for me. If he really wanted the team, if he really wanted to spend Yankee type money and make them perennial winners, he would have bid a lot more to make sure he landed the team. He went into it with a set ceiling numbering mind for a business deal, and decided that anything more would not make it a profitable enough business deal to bother pursuing. Once it hit that number he backed out.


So Cuban wanted the team so bad to spend Yankee money and please all you little mav homers BUT he wouldn't go over 385? :lmao

:lmao you so fucking retarded. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue faggot Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

:lmao you so fucking retarded. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue faggot Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

Haha Cuban won't buy the team but he's willing to pay Brendan Haywood 55 million????? :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

lol Chokericks!

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[Spurfan]

How many championships has Cuban won, do you really want the Rangers to be a RINGLESS team :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

If Cuban bought the Rangers they would have built a 2-0 lead and blown it to the Yankees (get it, I'm referencing the 2-0 lead the Mavs blew in 2006 :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao)

[manufanfirst]

Mark Cuban doesn't even harbor Nazis :cry:cry:cry:cry, who wants an owner who won't sympathize with Nazis?

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

How many championships has Cuban won, do you really want the Rangers to be a RINGLESS team :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

If Cuban bought the Rangers they would have built a 2-0 lead and blown it to the Yankees (get it, I'm referencing the 2-0 lead the Mavs blew in 2006 :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao)
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Preach on brotha! I would rather have Holt be the owner atleast he has rings!!!

The Mavs and Cuban have zero!!! Do we really want that guy who has a history of choking leading this proud Ranger franchise!! Hell no!!

We should sign Tim Duncan as the DH and let Pop take over, they atleast have championship experience!!!!!!!!11111:lobt2:

[Spurfan]

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Preach on brotha! I would rather have Holt be the owner atleast he has rings!!!

The Mavs and Cuban have zero!!! Do we really want that guy who has a history of choking leading this proud Ranger franchise!! Hell no!!

We should sign Tim Duncan as the DH and let Pop take over, they atleast have championship experience!!!!!!!!11111:lobt2:

If Holt bought the Rangers they'd win every championship for the next decade :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao, the only reason the Spurs didn't win every championship from 1999-2009 was injuries/Stern.

Since baseball doesn't rig playoff series against the Rangers like David Stern rigs everything against the Spurs, nothing would be able to stop Holt, CIA Pop and Timmy D if they brought their winning attitude here. If CIA Pop didn't intentionally lose games they might even go 162-0.

[Whisky Dog]

:lmao you so fucking retarded. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue faggot Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

You really are more retarded than ducks. Good god what a faggot

[Spurfan]

crucify 'em, Whisk, send that Cuban loving ass to the tree of woe!

[EricB]

sigh, more muddying of the thread....

[EricB]

Ryan in his press conference just stated he projects the payroll to be at 90 million the next 2 3 years...


What is it now.......

[ducks]

so will nolan open up his wallet and offer lee a great contract?
or will he be a cheap ass

[EricB]

Nolan is not the money man, they are supported by a Dallas billionaire and president of XTO Energy out of Dallas. Also Charlie Pride is an investor :)

[Spursfan092120]

Ryan in his press conference just stated he projects the payroll to be at 90 million the next 2 3 years...


What is it now.......
Pretty sure it's $65 million. And tbh, they did overpay a bit..but it doesn't matter...we got the owners the fans hoped they'd get, the payroll's going up, they're going to focus on keeping Hambone...this is probably the best situation we could be in.

[Spursfan092120]

so will nolan open up his wallet and offer lee a great contract?
or will he be a cheap ass
Dude..honestly, we probably aren't keeping Lee...and it won't be about someone being a cheapass...the Yankees are going to come in and offer him WAY too much money and we won't be able to afford it, but we'll replace him with a young prospect who will probably be almost as good, or maybe not..but our main objective will be keeping Hamilton. Our pipeline is good enough where Lee is not a necessity. And we showed we were willing to go in there and pick up a great prospect to help finish the season strong..we'll do it again if we have to.

[EricB]

Daniels was interviewed and said the number 1 priority is retaining Lee and is confident they can. Said they have control of Hamilton for another year before deciding on a contract for him.


Smart IMO, extend Wash and JD. Get Lee signed, find a first baseman and a left reliever, an innings eating ground ball pitcher for the back end of the rotation and IMO that should be Jake Westbrook he is PERFECT he's like another Colby Lewis but IMO with a good defense BETTER.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Tough question

Who would ya'll rather keep, Lee or Hamilton?

[Spursfan092120]

Tough question

Who would ya'll rather keep, Lee or Hamilton?
If I had to choose, I'm keeping Hamilton. He's the cornerstone of this team.

[Texas Chili Dog]

I'd pick Hamilton as well. I've grown way too attached to the guy.

[Melmart1]

Tough call on Hammy v. Lee. It's easier to get a big OF slugger than a TORP ace. But, signing a pitcher to big money like what Lee will command is riskier, cus pitchers tend to break down faster/easier.

[sribb43]

I know Elvis is a leadoff hitter and is supposed to be selective at the plate but damn, he takes so many strikes right down the middle

[dallaskd]

Thank you Buck and the O's for putting an end to the Angel's season. :tu

[sribb43]

Murph Dog going oppo :hat

[dallaskd]

Murphy with the clutch hitting..

[dallaskd]

oh god.. here comes Harrison. Good job by Tommy tonight

[EricB]

I tweeted the same thing about Harrison but he was effectively wild. Good job :tu

[sribb43]

The M's are pathetic...easily worst team in baseball. Atleast the O's have talent, M's got a bunch of trash not named Ichiro

[dallaskd]

Tough question

Who would ya'll rather keep, Lee or Hamilton?

Hamilton. He's only 29. He will be scary good when he reaches his prime. Lee will most likely face injuries in a few seasons as most veteran pitchers do.

[Spursfan092120]

Hamilton. He's only 29. He will be scary good when he reaches his prime. Lee will most likely face injuries in a few seasons as most veteran pitchers do.
Agreed 100%..as good as Hammy is (best AVG in the league and most hits) he still isn't as good as he will be. I'd love to see what this guy does in October...

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Felix masks a lot of the M's problems when he's on the mound.

When he's not, they're an absolute circus

[dallaskd]

Safe to say Vlad was the best off season pick-up in baseball last winter?

[Spursfan092120]

Safe to say Vlad was the best off season pick-up in baseball last winter?
No doubt...Angels were stupid to let him go. I know he didn't have a great season last year..and hindsight's 20/20 and all that garbage..but damn..Vladdy is stone cold.

[dallaskd]

IMO the Angels are contending if they hold on to him.

[Spursfan092120]

IMO the Angels are contending if they hold on to him.
But you also have to wonder if he isn't hitting so damn good because of who's in front and behind him. I know he's good..but would he be hitting as good in Anaheim with the guys who'd be before and after him? Tough to tell..but you can bet their kicking their own asses right now.

[dallaskd]

Hello Win Column! If we can sweep this next series, the division might be a wrap before we get to September.

[Texas Chili Dog]

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[Spursfan092120]

Hello Win Column! If we can sweep this next series, the division might be a wrap before we get to September.
Still a little anxious..I know the way we're playing, it'll be next to impossible to catch us, but as a lifelong Rangers fan, I've seen the impossible happen. At least we got the win tonight, we've got new owners, and we're looking impressive. Let's sweet the A's and keep rolling.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Let's get the magic number to 41 after leaving Oakland. :hat

[dallaskd]

If Texas sweeps Oakland, it would take an epic collapse to lose the division. No way it happens. Still, a whole 1/3 of the season remains so nothing is impossible..

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

A sweep = game over for the rest of the AL West.

That being said, I don't see it happening, the A's pitching is pretty good and it's do or die for them. I hope we can take 2 out of 3 though

[EricB]

I don't see much playing time in Julio Borbon's future for this season. Murphy is on fire and Hambone is gettin back in the groove.

Andrus studly late in game again.

[Texas Chili Dog]

I'm really starting to worry about the White Sox. All of a sudden they are only a game behind us because they won't lose. We have more than just a playoff spot we are fighting for. We need to finish ahead of the AL Central winner so we can get homefield. Otherwise we could very well be in the same situation as 1996, 1998, and 1999: starting game 1 of the ALDS @ New York.

[dallaskd]

I'm really starting to worry about the White Sox. All of a sudden they are only a game behind us because they won't lose. We have more than just a playoff spot we are fighting for. We need to finish ahead of the AL Central winner so we can get homefield. Otherwise we could very well be in the same situation as 1996, 1998, and 1999: starting game 1 of the ALDS @ New York.

nah, Minny and Chicago will beat each other up. The Twins won't let Chicago get away with the division. Meanwhile, the Rangers cruise.

[dallaskd]

If the Sox were to finish above Texas, wouldnt the Rays still get New York in the first round because they are the Wild Card? Or is it based on record?

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

I'm really starting to worry about the White Sox. All of a sudden they are only a game behind us because they won't lose. We have more than just a playoff spot we are fighting for. We need to finish ahead of the AL Central winner so we can get homefield. Otherwise we could very well be in the same situation as 1996, 1998, and 1999: starting game 1 of the ALDS @ New York.

I kinda prefer we play the Yanks, cause the road most likely goes through them anyway

[Melmart1]

Safe to say Vlad was the best off season pick-up in baseball last winter?

I would say Lewis, actually. Vlad has been mostly ice cold since the AS break, his numbers in July were just awful. Lewis shored up the rotation and kept it going until Lee got here, imho. He stabalized the rotation early on, when the pitching was carrying the team.

Vlad would be a close second, though.

[dallaskd]

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