Bernie Sanders

[Winehole23]

Too bad his son couldn’t trust him for some support of his own.well, I didn't claim he was the most popular and trustworthy father.

[Thread]

Why not?

Sounds like wishcasting. I thought 2016 rekt the conventional wisdom.

Bernie Sanders has been the most popular and most trusted politician in the US for about four years.

Sanders will be buried under an avalanche of the (Socialist tact).

"You guys" will sit it out Election Day.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1221934077466509312?s=19

Bernie lying his ass off :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1222248835696619520?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1222251862960660480?s=19

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1222248835696619520?s=19

Trump supporters=Bernie supporters.

Each day its becoming hard to tell them apart.

[Isitjustme?]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1222251862960660480?s=19

That lady blocked me on twitter and I dont even know who she is

[Isitjustme?]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1222248835696619520?s=19

Lol James O'Keefe. If you guys had the sane footage with someone getting it maybe it would work but O'Keefe with his history and credibility :lmao

[boutons_deux]

If Bernie beats Biden in IA and NH, Trash and his mafiya will claim their Biden/Ukraine slander is working, much like it worked with Benghazi! and Butter Emails!

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1222248835696619520?s=19

Wow...you have changed my mind Chris. I will no longer support Bernie :lol


Tucker Carlson: Don't Be So Sure Trump Beats Bernie

https://youtu.be/HUPxww9I2jg

https://mobile.twitter.com/BernForBernie20/status/1221220409833611277
:wow

:worthy:

[Chris]

Trump supporters=Bernie supporters.

Each day its becoming hard to tell them apart.

Everything revolves around Trump for this goy :lol

[Chris]

Lol James O'Keefe. If you guys had the sane footage with someone getting it maybe it would work but O'Keefe with his history and credibility :lmao

Sane footage???

[Thread]

& Media is running as fast as they can purporting that Sanders is ANOTHER outsider like the old man. With a straight face no less. (They) leave it there for (us) to decipher. "Not another outsider. We need to get back to the old days for 8 years, then perhaps we can venture into the (outside) again, if it's safe."

"You" can't beat Trump with Sanders. Carlson is blowing sunshine up your ass so you'll let your guard down long enough to get Sanders on the ballot in full knowledge that he wouldn't stand a chance.

[Thread]

If Bernie beats Biden in IA and NH, Trash and his mafiya will claim their Biden/Ukraine slander is working, much like it worked with Benghazi! and Butter Emails!

He'd (Biden) have to come in 3rd or 4th in IA., in order to make the panic button push.

[TheGreatYacht]

When conservatives and Trump supporters start siding with the DNC and CNN then you know Bernie is doing something right.

Feel the BERN 🇺🇸 :worthy:

[Thread]

When conservatives and Trump supporters start siding with the DNC and CNN then you know Bernie is doing something right.

Feel the BERN  :worthy:

He can't win & the DNC & CNN/Media know it. But, they can't just mercilessly run him off like last time. "It's not your fault really, Bernie, you're just an outsider and we can't risk that again." ADDENDUM:::C'mon, he ain't outsider. It's a ruse to soften him up long enough to keep him off the ballot. Their cut throat artist (Hillary) isn't here to do the wet work like last time. & they either aren't up to the wet work, or, ain't no good at it. So, they'll attempt to wiseguy him out of the nomination.

Of course the old man doesn't want Biden. He's the only 1 who can beat him.

It would be "nothing personal" twixt the old man & Bernie, strictly business. That will quell the turnout. With BidenV.Trump it's all personal & the turnout expansive.

"We" want to see BidenV.Trump. I don't, no way, but, "we" do. Media wants to see it...there is a better than 50/50 chance Biden would win that.

Sanders cannot win.

[Reck]

Everything revolves around Trump for this goy :lol

Goy? Aren't you like 60? Very edgy

[spurraider21]

He can't win & the DNC & CNN/Media know it. But, they can't just mercilessly run him off like last time. "It's not your fault really, Bernie, you're just an outsider and we can't risk that again." ADDENDUM:::C'mon, he ain't outsider. It's a ruse to soften him up long enough to keep him off the ballot. Their cut throat artist (Hillary) isn't here to do the wet work like last time. & they either aren't up to the wet work, or, ain't no good at it. So, they'll attempt to wiseguy him out of the nomination.

Of course the old man doesn't want Biden. He's the only 1 who can beat him.

It would be "nothing personal" twixt the old man & Bernie, strictly business. That will quell the turnout. With BidenV.Trump it's all personal & the turnout expansive.

"We" want to see BidenV.Trump. I don't, no way, but, "we" do. Media wants to see it...there is a better than 50/50 chance Biden would win that.

Sanders cannot win.
there's nothing exciting about biden. he's old/tired. and the whole campaign will be about ukraine instead of policies. would be a trainwreck. i cant see turnout after months of debating random Ukrainian names and companies

[Reck]

there's nothing exciting about biden. he's old/tired. and the whole campaign will be about ukraine instead of policies. would be a trainwreck. i cant see turnout after months of debating random Ukrainian names and companies

Just thinking about the debates between the two of them...ugh.

[Thread]

there's nothing exciting about biden. he's old/tired. and the whole campaign will be about ukraine instead of policies. would be a trainwreck. i cant see turnout after months of debating random Ukrainian names and companies

He is old/tired, worn to a nub, but, he's the only one who can win & Media knows that. Draggin' Bernie around the (socialist shit) is impossible. Media cannot do that with any verve. Trump will eat this alive. Vs. Biden is a fight, a laborious unknown end, especially for Trump. A drudgery.

Sanders would be a blast for Trump. He'd have the advantage from the very start with no worries.

[Thread]

Just thinking about the debates between the two of them...ugh.

Me too. Can you imagine it? Because by then neither will be holding anything back. Somebody will have to step in at some point.

[spurraider21]

He is old/tired, worn to a nub, but, he's the only one who can win & Media knows that. Draggin' Bernie around the (socialist shit) is impossible. Media cannot do that with any verve. Trump will eat this alive. Vs. Biden is a fight, a laborious unknown end, especially for Trump. A drudgery.

Sanders would be a blast for Trump. He'd have the advantage from the very start with no worries.
where do you get this notion?

[Thread]

where do you get this notion?

Just a gut feeling, 21. The Socialist thing really hurts Sanders. Trump will use that to great advantage. & Sanders ain't a killer. He let Hillary takes his pants down. He let Warren call him a liar in broad daylight, pants down again. There is a line in a movie:::"Somebody's throat has to be cut. We both can't have you/girl."

Bernie hasn't got it in him, 21.

Biden will fight the old man, will relish the fight and will have Media in his corner, active.

[Thread]

Good to converse with you guys again. You're fine fellows. You live in my heart.

We've been thru a lot thru the years. Even the bad times were good times & I knew it even when they were bad/losses.

[Winehole23]

Sanders will be buried under an avalanche of the (Socialist tact).

"You guys" will sit it out Election Day.Calling every single Dem who comes down the pike a Marxist-Leninist -- even center-right figures like HRC and Obama -- is gonna wear itself out.

May already have lost its clout with the under 30 crowd. Everyone else may be sick wnough of standard issue Rs and Ds that they'd be willing to try an off-flavor.

[spurraider21]

Just a gut feeling, 21. The Socialist thing really hurts Sanders. Trump will use that to great advantage. & Sanders ain't a killer. He let Hillary takes his pants down. He let Warren call him a liar in broad daylight, pants down again. There is a line in a movie:::"Somebody's throat has to be cut. We both can't have you/girl."

Bernie hasn't got it in him, 21.

Biden will fight the old man, will relish the fight and will have Media in his corner, active.
i think that dies at the first debate, honestly.

Trump: You're a socialist Bernie, this country will never be socialist.

Bernie: I want to be clee-uh! I'm a democratic socialist. A socialist wants the government to own and operate all business and industry. That is not my position, but I believe healthcare should be guaranteed by the government, like we see in every maj-uh country in the world.

do you just keep repeating "you're a socialist" to that? republicans have already tried that. in 2008 mccain said that obama was a socialist and that he was even further to the left "than a senator who used to call himself a socialist" (aka bernie). during the primaries they called his policies socialist and radical. didnt work then either.

biden is very comparable to hillary as a candidate. they're largely aligned on policy. they're both seen as extensions/continuations of the obama administration (trump's campaign against hillary was essentially a campaign against obama). both come with some baggage (hillary had an ongoing investigation... biden isn't quite there, but there's some smoke that trump will play at). the policy arguments will be the same. the only difference is biden wont have to deal with being a female candidate, to the degree that some people didnt want hillary for that reason

[TheGreatYacht]

Secret Audio Proves Trump Is Scared Of Running Against Bernie!

https://youtu.be/YHS95Mopj8k

Chris Nathan89 Thread AaronY
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/553/026/1ea.gif

[Isitjustme?]

Why not?

Sounds like wishcasting. I thought 2016 rekt the conventional wisdom.

Bernie Sanders has been the most popular and most trusted politician in the US for about four years.

He has a 40% favorable rating and a 51% disfavorable rating

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/bernie_sanders_favorableunfavorable-6676.html

[Reck]

Good to converse with you guys again. You're fine fellows. You live in my heart.

We've been thru a lot thru the years. Even the bad times were good times & I knew it even when they were bad/losses.

Why did you leave anyways?

[Thread]

Why did you leave anyways?

Too sensitive, a bit of a baby to be honest, Recky. I do apologize for leaving. That wasn't right.

[AaronY]

He is old/tired, worn to a nub, but, he's the only one who can win & Media knows that. Draggin' Bernie around the (socialist shit) is impossible. Media cannot do that with any verve. Trump will eat this alive. Vs. Biden is a fight, a laborious unknown end, especially for Trump. A drudgery.

Sanders would be a blast for Trump. He'd have the advantage from the very start with no worries.
There are so many insane facts about Sanders support for socialism and being a freeloader when he was young its crazy. Progressive/Bernie Bros tune it out when it comes from the left as they think its just us traditional Dems trying to stymie their movement but coming from a Republican it will different as they literally represent capitalism and traditional America which is what would be under attack. he said in print that JfK "nauseated him" (not kidding he literally said that) for his liberal policies and for being mean to Communist dictators both in articles and in videos he said over and over JFK makes him want to puke, he honeymooned in Russia, he has supported foreign communist dictator after foreign dictator, to progressives this is just in one ear out another but they are so out of touch with moderate voters its insane

The socialist thing is very important as while Republicans try to paint every Democrat as a socialist it works somewhat but only to chip away on the fringes and it doesn't hit if the person is obviously not one. Bernie literally admits to being one so he's basically a walking attack ad and he has no pushback on it at all. Also over age 35 (which is what most voters are) socialism gets destroyed in polls vs capitalism. He would have a better chance if the economy was completely in the tank but since its good and all I'm thinking people wont want to raise their taxes massively and go through huge economic change at this point (polls show 75% of people under the age of 35 are optimistic about their economic future showing how out-of-touch progressives with how much people hate this current economy)

Biden would defuse the socialist thing easily by saying something like "I'm not a socialist. I fought socialism in the primaries and I won. but I will say if you Republicans keep painting every attempt to raise wages and expand healthcare as socialism you will see more and more young people not thinking so poorly of socialism." Also Biden defuses the "white men are under attack" argument righties throw around and he can just say "if traditional old white guys (not socialists but regular old white guys) are being under attack from the left so much how did I get on this stage? 55% of blacks supported me. The idea the left wants to do away with traditional white males is nonsense" then he could pick Duckworth as his VP and when Trump tries to say Dems are the party of terrorists she could repeat her lines about that being bullshit and how she left half her bodyparts in Iraq and that would get thrown out the window too

[AaronY]

Bernie quotes on JFK from 1988

894607346340687872

[AaronY]

Just out here having a normal one praising a ruthless communist dictator and saying JFK is human garbage

1216840792549085185

[AaronY]

He has a 40% favorable rating and a 51% disfavorable rating

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/bernie_sanders_favorableunfavorable-6676.html
lol wow and the the full scale republican smear campaign hasn't even started yet.

[Reck]

Joni Ernst admit it the other day the point of the Trump’s lawyers was to cast doubt on voters minds heading into Iowa and now you have Rick Scott running anti Biden ads in Iowa all the way from Florida. :lol

I wonder why they’re all doing that as a group effort. Umm

[spurraider21]

bernie supported the cuban revolution. that means he loves dictators!



*cuban revolution ousted a military dictator (Fulgencio Batista) who on two separate occasions had come into power via coup

1) asshole pushes himself into power through force
2) people rise up and overthrow his regime
3) guy who ends up in charge also turns out to be an asshole

that means anybody who supported (2) loves dictators!

[Winehole23]

He has a 40% favorable rating and a 51% disfavorable rating

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/bernie_sanders_favorableunfavorable-6676.html

Odd, how do you square with this:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/sanders_favorableunfavorable-5263.html

[Winehole23]

Favorability falling recently, but still very high:

https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/22/sanders-favorability-declines-amid-clash-with-warren/

[Isitjustme?]

Odd, how do you square with this:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/sanders_favorableunfavorable-5263.html
The first link when you click on Fox News there is from 2018

Favorability falling recently, but still very high:

https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/22/sanders-favorability-declines-amid-clash-with-warren/
This is only among Democrats the 73% there

[Winehole23]

The first link when you click on Fox News there is from 2018

This is only among Democrats the 73% thereYep. Good points.

[Winehole23]

Democrat bribery of voters is getting out of hand:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/01/29/trump-black-voters-cash-giveaways-108072

[CosmicCowboy]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83192387_10156694184731700_3612163625894019072_n.p ng?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=jFg8cVE0J7MAX8jrJFw&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=964b70edd4e1bf50b3e66e686272ff49&oe=5ED1C11A

[spurraider21]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

on January 14, the story about sanders/warren broke out. at the time, sanders was polling at 19.2%. warren at 16%.

now sanders is at 23.8% and warren is at 14.8%

[Thread]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

on January 14, the story about sanders/warren broke out. at the time, sanders was polling at 19.2%. warren at 16%.

now sanders is at 23.8% and warren is at 14.8%

One of 'em lied. I figured it was Sanders, but, this polling is not showing that.

[spurraider21]

One of 'em lied. I figured it was Sanders, but, this polling is not showing that.
never made sense... in the last cycle he wanted her to run and said he'd support her if she did, and that only if she (or another progressive) didnt run, that he would. he only announced his candidacy after she declined to run.

i had been on the warren bandwagon on this board for a majority of this race, but i dont think she has run a good campaign, and the recent stunt with sanders really didnt set well with me

[Thread]

never made sense... in the last cycle he wanted her to run and said he'd support her if she did, and that only if she (or another progressive) didnt run, that he would. he only announced his candidacy after she declined to run.

i had been on the warren bandwagon on this board for a majority of this race, but i dont think she has run a good campaign, and the recent stunt with sanders really didnt set well with me

& he handled it well there on stage that night. That's how it's done.

Can you imagine me, 21? LOL!

[Isitjustme?]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

on January 14, the story about sanders/warren broke out. at the time, sanders was polling at 19.2%. warren at 16%.

now sanders is at 23.8% and warren is at 14.8%

Lol what a backfire

[AaronY]

bernie supported the cuban revolution. that means he loves dictators!



*cuban revolution ousted a military dictator (Fulgencio Batista) who on two separate occasions had come into power via coup

1) asshole pushes himself into power through force
2) people rise up and overthrow his regime
3) guy who ends up in charge also turns out to be an asshole

that means anybody who supported (2) loves dictators!
lol he was still going on about in 1988! 1988!! Pretty sure everyone knew Castro was a ruthless communist POS dictator by then

Don't got to defend every one of these man, I mean you could sit a few out. Baghdad Bob over here

[AaronY]

& he handled it well there on stage that night. That's how it's done.

Can you imagine me, 21? LOL!
How many times would you have yelled Pocahantas out loud?

[AaronY]

On the downside (for me) this phaggot really is rising in the polls lately

One the plus side we are about two weeks from DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) pretending he likes Joe Biden again which will be delightful to watch as always

[Thread]

How many times would you have yelled Pocahantas out loud?

Till she was out of hearing range.

[DMC]

The polls :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Bernie almost even with Biden in Texas

https://www.expressnews.com/news/politics/texas/article/Bernie-Sanders-surging-in-Texas-three-weeks-15013485.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=SAEN_TexasTake&utm_content=briefing&utm_term=news#

[boutons_deux]

Lol what a backfire

the "wimmen can't win" is true, but it was dumb to say it to Warren.

White Male Supremacist America is clearly no example of equality, as it has never elected a female President, while several other countries have, for decades.

[TheGreatYacht]

AIPAC Front Group Running Negative Bernie Ads In Iowa

https://youtu.be/uuiMAJQ92QQ

If AIPAC does not support Bernie Sanders then he must be doing something good. Feel the BERN :worthy:

[spurraider21]

relevant


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-_A2yw4RPU

[CosmicCowboy]

the "wimmen can't win" is true, but it was dumb to say it to Warren.

White Male Supremacist America is clearly no example of equality, as it has never elected a female President, while several other countries have, for decades.

Thats a really stupid thing to say since horrible hillary won the popular vote in 16.

[koriwhat]

Thats a really stupid thing to say since horrible hillary won the popular vote in 16.

don't worry, bouts says stupid things here on the daily. he's a fucking mentally ill loon tbh.

[DMC]

don't worry, bouts says stupid things here on the daily. he's a fucking mentally ill loon tbh.

Who probably lives in the country he claims to hate.

[koriwhat]

Who probably lives in the country he claims to hate.

you know it...

[TheGreatYacht]

Always Fighting For Us Americans| Bernie Sanders

https://youtu.be/9dwNvQf2ynk

This man can defeat Donald Trump :worthy:

[SnakeBoy]

Primary is going to get real interesting if Bernie starts winning. DNC/MSM panic will ensue :lol

[DMC]

Primary is going to get real interesting if Bernie starts winning. DNC/MSM panic will ensue :lol

He was already painted as a misogynist, next will be a racist.

[Will Hunting]

He was already painted as a misogynist, next will be a racist.
I think that’s actually right tbh. If he keeps gaining momentum the MSM is going to target low information black voters (there’s a redundancy).

Bernie should be trying to get ahead of it by playing dirty himself but that’ll never happen. He should be doing the same shit Trump did 4 years ago by coming up with ridiculous but catchy nicknames for his opponents.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think that’s actually right tbh. If he keeps gaining momentum the MSM is going to target low information black voters (there’s a redundancy).

Bernie should be trying to get ahead of it by playing dirty himself but that’ll never happen. He should be doing the same shit Trump did 4 years ago by coming up with ridiculous but catchy nicknames for his opponents.
:lol Lyin' Ted
:lol Little Marco (Rubio)

[Will Hunting]

:lol Lyin' Ted
:lol Little Marco (Rubio)

Those two were good but my favorite was still Low Energy Jeb. Jeb Bush tried so GD hard to make it look like the nickname didn’t bother him but it was obvious how much he was enraged by it :lol

The Democrats who keep crying about how :cry everyone needs to play nice in the primaries :cry are naive in thinking those nicknames weren’t effective campaigning.

[DMC]

I think that’s actually right tbh. If he keeps gaining momentum the MSM is going to target low information black voters (there’s a redundancy).

Bernie should be trying to get ahead of it by playing dirty himself but that’ll never happen. He should be doing the same shit Trump did 4 years ago by coming up with ridiculous but catchy nicknames for his opponents.

They'll stop short of all out racism charges and just indicate he's out of touch with the black community.

[Thread]

I think that’s actually right tbh. If he keeps gaining momentum the MSM is going to target low information black voters (there’s a redundancy).

Bernie should be trying to get ahead of it by playing dirty himself but that’ll never happen. He should be doing the same shit Trump did 4 years ago by coming up with ridiculous but catchy nicknames for his opponents.

That's it & that's all.

[benefactor]

Those two were good but my favorite was still Low Energy Jeb. Jeb Bush tried so GD hard to make it look like the nickname didn’t bother him but it was obvious how much he was enraged by it :lol

The Democrats who keep crying about how :cry everyone needs to play nice in the primaries :cry are naive in thinking those nicknames weren’t effective campaigning.
:lol Low Energy Jeb...I had forgot about that shit.

[spurraider21]

He should be doing the same shit Trump did 4 years ago by coming up with ridiculous but catchy nicknames for his opponents.
No

[Will Hunting]

That's it & that's all.
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[Will Hunting]

No
Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.

[ChumpDumper]

Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.I don't see that working tbh. They basically gave Biden a pass for the crime bill as a good faith effort in the face of a crisis and busing didn't work anyway so what difference could that really make? That plus eight years with Obama plus Sanders' awkward-at-best relations with minorities make this strategy a waste of time. Might as well try whatever the GOP will try against Biden to turn off whitey.

[spurraider21]

Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.
Because you’re operating under a strange assumption that emulating Trump will appeal to black voters not named Candace Owens, and all at the expense of his own base who like him because they think he’s genuine and principled

[boutons_deux]

"Biden being against bussing"

Biden also a strong supporter for conservaives "ending welfare as we know it", signed by center-right Dem establishmentarian Clinton, throwing 1000s of black off welfare.

That was one "black mark" that blacks held against Hillary, so I don't know why blacks forget or ignore that VEEP Biden was all in for screwing blacks.

[Cry Havoc]

Because you’re operating under a strange assumption that emulating Trump will appeal to black voters not named Candace Owens, and all at the expense of his own base who like him because they think he’s genuine and principled

Facts. Bernie shouldn't change his entire method of appealing to voters when what he's doing is working.

Lefty Democrats are not the same demographic as right wing Republicans.

[Will Hunting]

I don't see that working tbh. They basically gave Biden a pass for the crime bill as a good faith effort in the face of a crisis and busing didn't work anyway so what difference could that really make? That plus eight years with Obama plus Sanders' awkward-at-best relations with minorities make this strategy a waste of time. Might as well try whatever the GOP will try against Biden to turn off whitey.
You might very well be right but I don’t see Biden losing without someone chipping into his black voter lead, and all the other candidates who could have served as hitmen for Bernie on that front (Kamala & Booker) are out, so it’s getting close to Hail Mary time imo.

I also think that no matter how low the chances of being able to take away his support from black voters are, they’re higher than the chances of getting middle aged and older white Democrats to support someone else.

Setting all of that aside, the kiss of death for Bernie is going to be the wedge between him and Warren...the only shot either one had is if the other bowed out early and threw all of their support towards the one still in the race.

[DMC]

Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.

He doesn't need to do that. He can have someone else do it so he remains "clean".

"Joe Biden was for segregation before he was against it!" -paid shill group

"Senator, what do you think of these accusations against Biden that he supported segregation?" -MSM

"I'll leave that to you guys, I just want to talk about what the country needs now" -Sanders

[Will Hunting]

Because you’re operating under a strange assumption that emulating Trump will appeal to black voters not named Candace Owens, and all at the expense of his own base who like him because they think he’s genuine and principled
It’s not so much emulating Trump as it is doing what usually works with low information voters which is beating them over the head with the same smear campaign over and over again until it starts to resonate. Shaniqua Jackson the high school dropout isn’t going to flip from Biden to Bernie unless Bernie does a better job making it simple for her.

[Will Hunting]

He doesn't need to do that. He can have someone else do it so he remains "clean".

"Joe Biden was for segregation before he was against it!" -paid shill group

"Senator, what do you think of these accusations against Biden that he supported segregation?" -MSM

"I'll leave that to you guys, I just want to talk about what the country needs now" -Sanders
Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.One would think broPACs would be doing that independently already.

[ChumpDumper]

You might very well be right but I don’t see Biden losing without someone chipping into his black voter lead, and all the other candidates who could have served as hitmen for Bernie on that front (Kamala & Booker) are out, so it’s getting close to Hail Mary time imo.

I also think that no matter how low the chances of being able to take away his support from black voters are, they’re higher than the chances of getting middle aged and older white Democrats to support someone else.

Setting all of that aside, the kiss of death for Bernie is going to be the wedge between him and Warren...the only shot either one had is if the other bowed out early and threw all of their support towards the one still in the race.Bernie's big weaknesses are 1) he isn't a Democrat and 2) he keeps using the S word so any opponent can call him that and be correct.

[TheGreatYacht]

It’s not so much emulating Trump as it is doing what usually works with low information voters which is beating them over the head with the same smear campaign over and over again until it starts to resonate. Shaniqua Jackson the high school dropout isn’t going to flip from Biden to Bernie unless Bernie does a better job making it simple for her.

I'm with you 100%. Bernie needs to have a back bone amd get dirty with the DNC. He needs make it clear to the Democrats that you're either "with me or against me."

[boutons_deux]

the DNC and their BigFinance buddies will block both Bernie and Liz, Bernie is not a Dem, and BigFinace hates Liz for costing them $10B+ with CFPB, now gutted by the Repug whores.

[Will Hunting]

Bernie's big weaknesses are 1) he isn't a Democrat and 2) he keeps using the S word so any opponent can call him that and be correct.
So is also a weakness of Bloomberg’s that he’s not a Democrat either?

[ChumpDumper]

So is also a weakness of Bloomberg’s that he’s not a Democrat either?Yes.

His campaign approach can be described as detached and cynical as well.

[SnakeBoy]

DNC changes rules to accommodate Mini Mike

Looks they are getting plan B in place for Biden's inevitable collapse

Bernie gonna get screwed again :lol

Rigged!

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/mikeprysner/status/1223675170906243073?s=21

https://twitter.com/mikeprysner/status/1223679471854571525?s=21

[boutons_deux]

Yes.

His campaign approach can be described as detached and cynical as well.

he's running against Trash, to bait him, to piss him off, to insult him, he's not running to be President.

[DMC]

^This is what I said about Trump in 2015 tbh.

[Thread]

he's running against Trash, to bait him, to piss him off, in insult him, he's not running to be President.

bouts

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1223366391086157825

[spurraider21]

recent polling has the gap tightening....

https://i.gyazo.com/a17ce9f6f0a495ee33b9c67829eaefc3.png

https://i.gyazo.com/d639b2731499bac00bd9707b3d9f1706.png

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1223750008656162816?s=19

[DMC]

Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.
He might not, but his folks should if they even want a puncher's chance.

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1223750008656162816?s=19

The Dems are throwing everything they can at Bernie. He was campaigning, that's what they do.

[Will Hunting]

:lol do people know how private flights work? $1.2 million for private flights is nothing.

Fuck Bernie for not bike riding across the country to campaign!

[Chris]

The Dems are throwing everything they can at Bernie. He was campaigning, that's what they do.

Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.

[spurraider21]

Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.
how does that work? recent history has shown that presidential candidates aren't immune from investigation

[Will Hunting]

Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.
Biden and Bloomberg are running for the same reason, giant egos that have made them convinced they’re the “best shot” at beating Trump.

[Will Hunting]

how does that work? recent history has shown that presidential candidates aren't immune from investigation
:lol literally the opposite of what he said is true...the only reason the Hunter Biden/Ukraine shit gets any attention is because daddeh is running for President.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1223750008656162816?s=19
:lmao this article


Alternatively, Amtrak offers service from D.C. to Iowa, which would cost Sanders $149 using the senior discount.

[Chris]

Biden was the Ukranian mafia's highest-ranking agent in the US government. In return for making his family rich, power levers were pulled to get US-taxpayer support to enable their corruption back home. His 2020 run was all an elaborate SCHEME to hide behind an impeachment sham.

[spurraider21]

Biden was the Ukranian mafia's highest-ranking agent in the US government. In return for making his family rich, power levers were pulled to get US-taxpayer support to enable their corruption back home. His 2020 run was all an elaborate SCHEME to hide behind an impeachment sham.
again, how does running for president shield him from investigation?

and how would the impeachment help him hide when the impeachment story was constantly referring to the bidens and the demands for ukraine to investigate them? were it not for the whistleblower and impeachment inquiry we wouldnt have been talking about biden and his son nearly as often

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DrivelCivil/status/1222953231262703616?s=19

[Will Hunting]

:lmao this article
:lmao as if it’s just Sanders traveling by himself not with a bunch of staff, equipment, etc.

[Reck]

Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.

In a back and forth battle of the nick names, Bernie loses.

Socialist sticks. Specially when all you have to do is run these clips from the 80s that have been popping out with Bernie bragging about how Castro is a savior and some shit.

[ChumpDumper]

The Dems are throwing everything they can at Bernie.Neither of those are Democrats.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden was the Ukranian mafia's highest-ranking agent in the US government. In return for making his family rich, power levers were pulled to get US-taxpayer support to enable their corruption back home. His 2020 run was all an elaborate SCHEME to hide behind an impeachment sham.:lmao
moar conspiracies

[spurraider21]

:lmao as if it’s just Sanders traveling by himself not with a bunch of staff, equipment, etc.
:lmao casual 30 hour commute via amtrak from DC to Iowa

[boutons_deux]

GOP lawmaker can’t identify where the constitution says socialists ‘either go to prison or are shot’



https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Rodney-Garcia.png

“A Billings Republican legislator said Saturday he believes :lol the

U.S. Constitution calls for the shooting or jailing of those who identify as socialists,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/gop-lawmaker-cant-identify-where-the-constitution-says-socialists-either-go-to-prison-or-are-shot/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/gop-lawmaker-cant-identify-where-the-constitution-says-socialists-either-go-to-prison-or-are-shot/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Montana :lol, 1 M population, 2 US Senators.

The US Constitution is an archaic joke, abused, ignored, perverted, weaponized.

[Reck]

The constitution says whatever Trump says it does. Ask any republican house and senate members.

Hell, just look at the ending results from the impeachment and you'll have your answer.

[DMC]

:lmao casual 30 hour commute via amtrak from DC to Iowa

Just wait until he hits Hawaii. That's a hell of a ride on an Amtrak

[DMC]

The constitution says whatever Trump says it does. Ask any republican house and senate members.

Hell, just look at the ending results from the impeachment and you'll have your answer.

I don't get it. He was impeached. What ending results?

[Reck]

I don't get it. He was impeached. What ending results?

I meant the ending result of the impeachment "trial."

[Will Hunting]

In a back and forth battle of the nick names, Bernie loses.

Socialist sticks. Specially when all you have to do is run these clips from the 80s that have been popping out with Bernie bragging about how Castro is a savior and some shit.
You’re a center right wing moderate so the socialist thing bothers you but in terms of millennials/minorities/lefties the word socialist doesn’t bother them.

[baseline bum]

Biden and Bloomberg are running for the same reason, giant egos that have made them convinced they’re the “best shot” at beating Trump.

I still think Bloomberg is only there because he's freaked out about Sanders' and Warren's planned wealth tax. Biden is there because it's his turn just like Clinton and he's who the DNC wants. God this looks so much like 2016.

[Will Hunting]

I still think Bloomberg is only there because he's freaked out about Sanders' and Warren's planned wealth tax. Biden is there because it's his turn just like Clinton and he's who the DNC wants. God this looks so much like 2016.
The boomer Dems seem to think Bloomberg running is some kind of heroic act too.

:cry he’s sacrificing so much by entering the race but beating Trump just means so much to him :cry

:cry such a hero :cry

[Will Hunting]

The entire premise that Bloomberg spending hundreds of millions on his own masterbatory campaign ads is the most efficient way to deploy his resources in order to beat Trump is laughable. The net result is that he’s making the primary more competitive and costly for the other candidates such that whoever wins will have a more depleted campaign warchest once the primary is over and less resources to campaign against Trump.

If Bloomberg were really soooooo focused on making sure Trump loses over everything else, he’d be funneling money into super PACs that impact the Maine, Arizona, North Carolina and Colorado senate races.

[ChumpDumper]

You’re a center right wing moderate so the socialist thing bothers you but in terms of millennials/minorities/lefties the word socialist doesn’t bother them.It would be great if the people most comfortable with it actually voted in greater numbers than those who are bothered by it.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol "depends"

1223647822614007808

[Will Hunting]

^So much for the Bernie bros being the stubborn ones.

EDIT: Nevermind, misread the poll.

[Will Hunting]

Wonder why the fuck Yang has so many no votes...bunch of Republicans who want free money every month :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I respect the four Yang supporters for not being coy about it.

[DMC]

I meant the ending result of the impeachment "trial."

Hasn't happened yet

[DMC]

Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.

I don't know if she's running out of time. She has to start fundraising at some point if he wants to do that unless the DNC just fucks Bernie and throws all their money at her.

[Will Hunting]

I don't know if she's running out of time. She has to start fundraising at some point if he wants to do that unless the DNC just fucks Bernie and throws all their money at her.
I think she was probably standing by to see if Biden would falter early on but since he hasn’t she’s not running. At this point the DNC probably doesn’t want her to jump in and steal votes from Biden.

[DMC]

I think she was probably standing by to see if Biden would falter early on but since he hasn’t she’s not running. At this point the DNC probably doesn’t want her to jump in and steal votes from Biden.

She is the perfect attack dog against Sanders though. She has nothing to lose but still has a large following.

[Millennial_Messiah]

She is the perfect attack dog against Sanders though. She has nothing to lose but still has a large following.

she'd get annihilated against Trump like the Lakers in 2003 WCSF Game 6, or the Mavs in 2014 first round Game 7

[Will Hunting]

She is the perfect attack dog against Sanders though. She has nothing to lose but still has a large following.
I think using her as the hatchet man to go after Sanders is dangerous and has limited upside. Her large following is generally made up of people who weren’t voting for Sanders anyway, and if she went to far it could create blowback. The MSMs bullshit story about Bernie being sexist against Warren clearly didn’t have the desired effect.

[DMC]

I think using her as the hatchet man to go after Sanders is dangerous and has limited upside. Her large following is generally made up of people who weren’t voting for Sanders anyway, and if she went to far it could create blowback. The MSMs bullshit story about Bernie being sexist against Warren clearly didn’t have the desired effect.

No doubt, but that doesn't mean Biden's group won't do it anyhow. The Clintons are more in line with Biden than anyone else in the race.

[Will Hunting]

No doubt, but that doesn't mean Biden's group won't do it anyhow. The Clintons are more in line with Biden than anyone else in the race.
Yeah no question there, if the Clintons back anybody it’s going to be Biden, I just don’t think that post-2016 these are the same Clintons anymore (ie, Bill Clinton being able to give a convention speech that jolts a candidate’s poll numbers the way he did in 2012 is a thing of the past). Even a lot of Clinton’s most fervent supporters grew tired of her :cry it wasn’t my fault :cry book tour after the election.

[ChumpDumper]

True, even just the slightest admission of personal responsibility for her shit campaign would've helped her favorability among Democrats. Joe straight up tells people he fucked up and gets forgiven.

[Isitjustme?]

Biden was the Ukranian mafia's highest-ranking agent in the US government. In return for making his family rich, power levers were pulled to get US-taxpayer support to enable their corruption back home. His 2020 run was all an elaborate SCHEME to hide behind an impeachment sham.

Lol

[Will Hunting]

Even by Chris standards that Ukrainian mafia conspiracy theory is pretty out there :lol

[Reck]

You’re a center right wing moderate so the socialist thing bothers you but in terms of millennials/minorities/lefties the word socialist doesn’t bother them.

Center right moderate. :lmao

Bold claim there chief. Can you back it up or is this you talking ulfiltered trash?

[Reck]

It would be great if the people most comfortable with it actually voted in greater numbers than those who are bothered by it.

The funny part is that I’m not even bothered by it but clearly most are and they’re the ones who need convincing. This triggered Williams for some reason.

I already said I’d vote for Bernie if he ends up our nominee. The great yatch actually said he wouldn’t vote or would vote for Trump but I’m the center right moderate here. :lol

[baseline bum]

The boomer Dems seem to think Bloomberg running is some kind of heroic act too.

:cry he’s sacrificing so much by entering the race but beating Trump just means so much to him :cry

:cry such a hero :cry

Wow is that what Boomer Dems think in DC? Fuuuuck.

[baseline bum]

her :cry it wasn’t my fault :cry book tour after the election.

Ugh :vomit:

[spurraider21]

John Kerry overheard discussing possible 2020 bid amid concern of 'Sanders taking down the Democratic Party' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476)

:lmao

[baseline bum]

John Kerry overheard discussing possible 2020 bid amid concern of 'Sanders taking down the Democratic Party' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476)

:lmao

Fucking Democrats have become the Party of Clinton when they used to be the Party of FDR. :pctoss

[Reck]

John Kerry overheard discussing possible 2020 bid amid concern of 'Sanders taking down the Democratic Party' (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476)



:lmao

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200202/c9e1a7297e585661305e415ee55a7c78.jpg

:lol det meltdown. He deleted that and went with a PG tweet without the fucking once his blood pressure went back to normal.

[spurraider21]

:lol


Sitting in the lobby restaurant of the Renaissance Savery hotel, Kerry was overheard by an NBC News analyst saying "maybe I'm f---ing deluding myself here" and explaining that in order to run, he'd have to step down from the board of Bank of America and give up his ability to make paid speeches. Kerry said donors like venture capitalist Doug Hickey would have to "raise a couple of million," adding that such donors "now have the reality of Bernie." (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/oh-my-god-sanders-can-win-democrats-grapple-bernie-surge-n1123806)

[Will Hunting]

Fucking Democrats have become the Party of Clinton when they used to be the Party of FDR. :pctoss
It’s disgusting tbh.

The Republicans have done nothing but move further and further to the right since the 80s and the Democrats have done nothing but follow them. Somehow now people views MSNBC as the “liberal station” when all they do is say the Democrats need to move to the center.

[Will Hunting]

Kerry doesn’t get talked about enough as a shitty candidate, he was just as bad in 04 as Clinton was in 16.

[spurraider21]

It’s disgusting tbh.

The Republicans have done nothing but move further and further to the right since the 80s and the Democrats have done nothing but follow them. Somehow now people views MSNBC as the “liberal station” when all they do is say the Democrats need to move to the center.
and then the right points to fringe pussyhatters and says this is the mainstream left :lol

[spurraider21]

Kerry doesn’t get talked about enough as a shitty candidate, he was just as bad in 04 as Clinton was in 16.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY

[Reck]

Kerry doesn’t get talked about enough as a shitty candidate, he was just as bad in 04 as Clinton was in 16.

:lol Losing to a guy who just got us into war and had an aproval rating of like 15 and somehow he thinks he can take on Trump. Cool

[spurraider21]

the day john kerry announces his candidacy is the day bill bar launches an investigation into his logan act violations tbh :lol

[Will Hunting]

:lol Losing to a guy who just got us into war and had an aproval rating of like 15 and somehow he thinks he can take on Trump. Cool
As young as I was I’ll always remember when GWB successfully baited Kerry into saying he’d support the Iraq War all over again even knowing what we know now.

That entire campaign was basically Kerry being so scared about looking “soft on terror” that he ended up never saying anything of consequence.

[Isitjustme?]

Hate to be "that guy" but that Kerry quote really is probably fake tbh. I mean its the day before Iowa, he's done no fundraising and its now passed most all of the deadlines. Kind of hard to believe especially since its from the "overheard in diner" by anonymous sources genre and confirms all priors about "the establishment" progressives hold

[Trill Clinton]

1223842218609401857

Lets go, Bernie!

[Trill Clinton]

1224334092457709568

Christ Matthews on the verge of a breakdown https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png

[spurraider21]

Hate to be "that guy" but that Kerry quote really is probably fake tbh. I mean its the day before Iowa, he's done no fundraising and its now passed most all of the deadlines. Kind of hard to believe especially since its from the "overheard in diner" by anonymous sources genre and confirms all priors about "the establishment" progressives hold
It’s an nbc story saying the call was overheard by an nbc analyst. That would be a massive credibility killer for them if they ran with it knowing it’s made up tho

[Thread]

1224334092457709568

Christ Matthews on the verge of a breakdown https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png

& the woman to his right. I forget who that is, but, that woman is a real smart ass. & she ain't no goof ball---she knows precisely how to push buttons.

[Isitjustme?]

It’s an nbc story saying the call was overheard by an nbc analyst. That would be a massive credibility killer for them if they ran with it knowing it’s made up tho

They didnt even name the source so any progressive reporter can just make up stories like that if they wanted. and there are prog reporters at even regular MSM outlet s. I kind of doubt it tbh. You have to be careful with stories that confirm all your priors. Also its kind of funny how reliable and venerable MSM becomes to progressives when its something they want to hear :lol

[spurraider21]

They didnt even name the source so any progressive reporter can just make up stories like that if they wanted. and there are prog reporters at even regular MSM outlet s. I kind of doubt it tbh. You have to be careful with stories that confirm all your priors. Also its kind of funny how reliable and venerable MSM becomes to progressives when its something they want to hear :lol
Journalists rely on their sources for info... There’s a difference between reporting being wrong and the source being wrong.

kerry isn’t even denying the report. His tweet confirms that he spoke with the nbc person following the call. The report isn’t saying Kerry is running but that he had a phone conversation and there are some inferences which can be drawn based on what was heard from one side of the convo

[Isitjustme?]

It seems silly and way too good to be true is all tbh. I mean its one day from Iowa, all the deadlines to enter various races have passed, he has no fundraising etc. I really doubt it happened the way the guy said. Almost the kind of story progressives wish into existence when they are imagining DNC headquarters right now to me is all.

[spurraider21]

It seems silly and way too good to be true is all tbh. I mean its one day from Iowa, all the deadlines to enter various races have passed, he has no fundraising etc. I really doubt it happened the way the guy said. Almost the kind of story progressives wish into existence when they are imagining DNC headquarters right now to me is all.
did you actually read the article, tbh?


He told NBC News later Sunday: "This is a complete and total misinterpretation based on overhearing only one side of a phone conversation. A friend who watches too much cable called me wondering whether I'd ever jump into the race late in the game if Democrats were choosing an unelectable nominee. I listed all the reasons I could not possibly do that and would not — and will not under any circumstances — do that."

It's not clear how serious Kerry was on the call about jumping into the race. But that he would even discuss the possibility suggests that prominent members of the Democratic Party remain deeply unsettled by the current field, Sanders' strength in the polls and the ability of any candidate to defeat President Donald Trump.

[Isitjustme?]

did you actually read the article, tbh?

That supports what I said!!! lol He was telling someone over and over that its impossible for him to enter the race now and it was twisted into a fake news story about him running that progressives and retweeted into a furor and lapped up because its something they want so bad to be true and its bad for anti-establishment moderates :lol This story was literally wished into existence :lol

[spurraider21]

That supports what I said!!! lol He was telling someone over and over that its impossible for him to enter the race now and it was twisted into a fake news story about him running that progressives and retweeted into a furor and lapped up because its something they want so bad to be true and its bad for anti-establishment moderates :lol This story was literally wished into existence :lol
but thats on those people. very different from saying some progressive at nbc made a story up

[Isitjustme?]

but thats on those people. very different from saying some progressive at nbc made a story up

I dont know. Not to start a fight but look at your reaction to the JFK/Castro Bernie clip where he says nasty things about JFK 30 years after the fact and where Bernie really does comes off bad. you are all "1) Well fulgio Bautista in 1958 2) Castro was not bad really 3) revolutionary freedom fighters" versus your reaction to a flimsy story about Kerry a moderate entering the race after iowa with no fundraising and you going crazy with giddy happiness. See if you can see what im seeing in terms of your different stances and how much you support stories that make your enemies look bad is all.

[spurraider21]

I dont know. Not to start a fight but look at your reaction to the JFK/Castro Bernie clip where he says nasty things about JFK 30 years after the fact and where Bernie really does comes off bad. you are all "1) Well fulgio Bautista in 1958 2) Castro was not bad really 3) revolutionary freedom fighters" versus your reaction to a flimsy story about Kerry a moderate entering the race after iowa with no fundraising and you going crazy with giddy happiness. See if you can see what im seeing in terms of your different stances and how much you support stories that make your enemies look bad is all.
at no point did i say anything positive about castro. the crux of bernie's comments were the poor people rising and taking on those in power. he's spoken about castro/cuba plenty, and you can look up just about every interview he's had on the issue. he praises them for their healthcare/education systems, but has said their economy is terrible and people dont have a right to dissent the government there.

what i take issue with is taking that 30 year old segment and trying to say that bernie loves fidel castro and dictatorships

[spurraider21]

btw this was my quote. nothing romanticizing castro or saying anything about "freedom fighters" or whatever but ok


bernie supported the cuban revolution. that means he loves dictators!



*cuban revolution ousted a military dictator (Fulgencio Batista) who on two separate occasions had come into power via coup

1) asshole pushes himself into power through force
2) people rise up and overthrow his regime
3) guy who ends up in charge also turns out to be an asshole

that means anybody who supported (2) loves dictators!

[DMC]

I dont know. Not to start a fight but look at your reaction to the JFK/Castro Bernie clip where he says nasty things about JFK 30 years after the fact and where Bernie really does comes off bad. you are all "1) Well fulgio Bautista in 1958 2) Castro was not bad really 3) revolutionary freedom fighters" versus your reaction to a flimsy story about Kerry a moderate entering the race after iowa with no fundraising and you going crazy with giddy happiness. See if you can see what im seeing in terms of your different stances and how much you support stories that make your enemies look bad is all.
Philo the lawyer has to defend his client.

[boutons_deux]

Fucking Democrats have become the Party of Clinton when they used to be the Party of FDR. :pctoss

Obama also heard in private meeting saying he would do anything to block Sanders (who isn't a Dem and is way too progressive for BigMoney Dem establishment)

With the oligarchy's whore Repugs leading the degradation of America, the Dems are doing nothing to stop it, and are mostly silently complicit.

"Maybe something else sucks around here" -- G. Carlin

America is fucked and unfuckable.

[baseline bum]

1224334092457709568

Christ Matthews on the verge of a breakdown https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png

God is that Claire McCaskill there with her "I know how to win in red states" despite getting fucking wrecked in a Democratic wave election? MSNBC can go fuck themselves with a forty.

[Isitjustme?]

Philo the lawyer has to defend his client.

This thread is going to be like R/The Donald aka Trump's ball licking subreddit page on reddit in 5 months tbh lol

[spurraider21]

eh, i have plenty of criticisms of sanders, which is why until basically the last month or so, i was pro warren. notably, i think a $15 federal min wage is a poor idea, nor do i think the idea of a federal jobs guarantee is a very good one.

but there are some really dumb criticisms of him, and yeah i'll point them out when they're there. hurr durr bernie loves fidel castro and dictators is a really dumb one.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224395107027173377?s=19
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224395751578423299?s=19
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224396346393645056?s=19
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224396933743050752?s=19
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224397821693939713?s=19

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1224395107027173377?s=19
and when trump was 35 he was a pro-choice democrat :lol... didnt stop you from calling his election the fulfillment of a biblical prophecy

people's views change over time. i wouldn't vote for that version of sanders, tbh

[Chris]

trump

Thanks for chiming in.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Let's go Bernie!!!

[ChumpDumper]

and when trump was 35 he was a pro-choice democrat :lol... didnt stop you from calling his election the fulfillment of a biblical prophecy:lmao King Cyrus

[spurraider21]

:lmao King Cyrus
a modern day king cyrus*

or to put it in musical form: A modern day warrior, mean mean stride, today's King Cyrus, mean mean pride.

[DMC]

and when trump was 35 he was a pro-choice democrat :lol... didnt stop you from calling his election the fulfillment of a biblical prophecy

people's views change over time. i wouldn't vote for that version of sanders, tbh

"That version"

:lol

Funny how people think Bernie changed to fit the "become electable" mold. If anything, he sold out his core beliefs, or he's lying about them. Either makes him a chickenshit.

[Chris]

a modern day king cyrus*.

Let us proceed...

[spurraider21]

"That version"

:lol

Funny how people think Bernie changed to fit the "become electable" mold. If anything, he sold out his core beliefs, or he's lying about them. Either makes him a chickenshit.
politicos views change over time, just like everybody else, deemack. that was over 40 years ago. you're telling me your views today are identical to what they were 40 years ago?

[ChumpDumper]

deemackhttps://media.giphy.com/media/3qszpC90V7lR0T0i6E/giphy.gif

[Trill Clinton]

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[DMC]

politicos views change over time, just like everybody else, deemack. that was over 40 years ago. you're telling me your views today are identical to what they were 40 years ago?

If I was Bernie's age, 40 years ain't that long ago. But yes, my views are very similar to how I was raised.

[spurraider21]

If I was Bernie's age, 40 years ain't that long ago. But yes, my views are very similar to how I was raised.
40 years ago is always a long time ago.

[ElNono]

40 years ago is always a long time ago.

what would you know, you weren't even alive 40 years ago... :lol

[DMC]

40 years ago is always a long time ago.

You read that somewhere? :lol

[DMC]

He'd (Biden) have to come in 3rd or 4th in IA., in order to make the panic button push.

hmm

[hater]

its Bernie time ma negroes

sit back and enjoy

https://twitter.com/chalecosamarill/status/1224813469607833604?s=21

[hater]

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

USA! USA! USA!

https://twitter.com/RihannaFreak20/status/1225300091570925571?s=20

[hater]

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

USA! USA! USA!

https://twitter.com/LivPosting/status/1225299908640595969?s=20

[hater]

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

USA! USA! USA!

https://twitter.com/cjmab28/status/1225309702210379780?s=20

[Trill Clinton]

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[TheGreatYacht]

Democrats and Republicans are terrified of Bernie Sanders because they know that he is the one of the few serious candidates who can save the sinking ship of the American empire.

[Thread]

Democrats and Republicans are terrified of Bernie Sanders because they know that he is the one of the few serious candidates who can save the sinking ship of the American empire.

But, Yatzee, I was all in on being terrified of Joe Biden.

[koriwhat]

Democrats and Republicans are terrified of Bernie Sanders because they know that he is the one of the few serious candidates who can save the sinking ship of the American empire.

nah... fuck communism masked in compassion. here's to hoping for endless heart attacks for all commies! :tu

[DMC]

Running Bernie is like running Ron Paul. Even if they get the dem nod they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general.

[spurraider21]

Running Bernie is like running Ron Paul. Even if they get the dem nod they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general.
coulda said the same about trump in 2016 and i'd believe you

[Will Hunting]

Running Bernie is like running Ron Paul. Even if they get the dem nod they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general.
No way of knowing but I think Paul does better than Romney did in 2012. Maybe doesn’t beat Obama but doesn’t get shellacked either and probably wins Florida.

[boutons_deux]

yep, CNN, MSNBC,WaPo, NYT all are prejudiced against Bernie.

[Will Hunting]

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The person I know on his campaign staff told me today that the contributions they’ve gotten through one week in February have been off the charts. He wouldn’t give me specifics but said for the 10 years he’s been in politics he’s never seen anything like this where a candidate can blast an email out asking for money and get so much in contributions pouring in so quickly.

[Thread]

The person I know on his campaign staff told me today that the contributions they’ve gotten through one week in February have been off the charts. He wouldn’t give me specifics but said for the 10 years he’s been in politics he’s never seen anything like this where a candidate can blast an email out asking for money and get so much in contributions pouring in so quickly.

Chump change to Trump, Will. He shits bigger than that.

[Will Hunting]

Chump change to Trump, Will. He shits bigger than that.
Trump raised $46 million in the last quarter without any other Republican candidates to compete with.

Bernie raised $25 million in one month (so a pro forma $75 million quarter) with little to no DNC help and also other candidates competing for Democrat money.

If and when Pocahontas gets out of the race his contribution totals will only explode more. I’ve contributed just over $500 and once Warren is out of the race I’ll give the max to Bernie.

[Thread]

Trump raised $46 million in the last quarter without any other Republican candidates to compete with.

Bernie raised $25 million in one month (so a pro forma $75 million quarter) with little to no DNC help and also other candidates competing for Democrat money.

If and when Pocahontas gets out of the race his contribution totals will only explode more. I’ve contributed just over $500 and once Warren is out of the race I’ll give the max to Bernie.

You're a good soul, Will.

[Will Hunting]

You're a good soul, Will.
So are you, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

The Democratic establishment is doing a really bad job of stopping Bernie Sanders

Complaining doesn't accomplish anything; they need to unite on an alternative.

mainstream Democrats openly wring their hands about the prospect of a Bernie Sanders nomination (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/7/21002895/bernie-sanders-2020-electability).

Though Sanders supporters are borderline paranoid about anti-Sanders sentiment,

there’s virtually no actual anti-Sanders organizing.

anti-Sanders zeal, though real, is also quite limited.

Definitively stopping Sanders would require a clear choice, yet party leaders have clearly decided they can’t be bothered.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/7/21122966/establishment-stop-bernie-sanders-hillary-obama (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/7/21122966/establishment-stop-bernie-sanders-hillary-obama)

[DMC]

coulda said the same about trump in 2016 and i'd believe you

I probably did say that.

[Will Hunting]

The Democratic establishment is doing a really bad job of stopping Bernie Sanders

Complaining doesn't accomplish anything; they need to unite on an alternative.

mainstream Democrats openly wring their hands about the prospect of a Bernie Sanders nomination (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/7/21002895/bernie-sanders-2020-electability).

Though Sanders supporters are borderline paranoid about anti-Sanders sentiment,

there’s virtually no actual anti-Sanders organizing.

anti-Sanders zeal, though real, is also quite limited.

Definitively stopping Sanders would require a clear choice, yet party leaders have clearly decided they can’t be bothered.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/7/21122966/establishment-stop-bernie-sanders-hillary-obama (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/7/21122966/establishment-stop-bernie-sanders-hillary-obama)



This primary definitely has the feel for Sanders that the 2016 primary had for Trump. If there was one unified alternative to Sanders he’d probably be toast, but he’s got a fiercely loyal backing while no other candidate does.

[Thread]

So are you, tbh.

Thanks, Will.

[DarrinS]

A Bernie presidency wouldn't be so terrible. The WH would be like his retirement home and none of his wacky policies would get passed into law. Business as usual, tbh.

[DMC]

The 'swarm': How a subset of Sanders supporters use hostile tactics to drown out critics

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/politics/bernie-sanders-social-media-attacks-invs/index.html

CNN shilling for the Clinton Syndicate

[hater]

A Bernie presidency wouldn't be so terrible. The WH would be like his retirement home and none of his wacky policies would get passed into law. Business as usual, tbh.

so kinda like a Trump presidency :lol

[DarrinS]

so kinda like a Trump presidency :lol

Nope

:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1225989238216417280?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1225984382827139072?s=19

[boutons_deux]

This primary definitely has the feel for Sanders that the 2016 primary had for Trump. If there was one unified alternative to Sanders he’d probably be toast, but he’s got a fiercely loyal backing while no other candidate does.

Buttigieg and Bernie/Warren are not that far apart in policies,

EXCEPT for the financial stuff

Buttigieg's wikipedia page has nothing to say about financial stuff like financial inequality, raising minimum wage, "The Crisis of Affordability", etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg_2020_presidential_campaign#Economy_ and_commerce

... iow. his policies financially protect the oligarchy, left and right, which is why a billionaire and his squad of DNC operatives sabotaged IA caucuses, to undercut Bernie.

In America, the ONLY value is money, so FOLLOW IT.

The Dem BigDollar establishment would rather lose to Trash (their Dem jobs, wealth untouched and increased) than win with (financial) progressives like Bernie/Liz

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1225984382827139072?s=19

Typical bullshit, pushing the problem down the road. The bottleneck now will be that people don't show up for their hearing. Why should they? They have nothing invested.

[benefactor]

so kinda like a Trump presidency :lol
:lol...exactly...with more kind grandpa and less WWE

[benefactor]

This primary definitely has the feel for Sanders that the 2016 primary had for Trump. If there was one unified alternative to Sanders he’d probably be toast, but he’s got a fiercely loyal backing while no other candidate does.
Bloomberg is their last ditch effort to torpedo him but nothing is likable about him and no one is buying into his late game entrance, ad spamming gimmick.

[Will Hunting]

Bloomberg is their last ditch effort to torpedo him but nothing is likable about him and no one is buying into his late game entrance, ad spamming gimmick.
Their best bet was finding a younger charismatic candidate with no real record to go after but the best they could come up with on that front was a gay guy from South Bend Indana :lol

[spurraider21]

Typical bullshit, pushing the problem down the road. The bottleneck now will be that people don't show up for their hearing. Why should they? They have nothing invested.
Except their liberty.

ending cash bail =/= ending bail. The law could be written such that anybody who misses a hearing without good cause is no longer subject to bail

[DMC]

Except their liberty.

ending cash bail =/= ending bail. The law could be written such that anybody who misses a hearing without good cause is no longer subject to bail

They have a warrant for their arrest and have to be entered into the system, sought and detained again. All this on taxpayer dime.

[spurraider21]

They have a warrant for their arrest and have to be entered into the system, sought and detained again. All this on taxpayer dime.
if they commit the further offense, then yes.

otherwise you're saving taxpayer dime by not having to feed/shelter tens of thousands of people who are sitting in jails right now before they've been tried

[ChumpDumper]

if they commit the further offense, then yes.

otherwise you're saving taxpayer dime by not having to feed/shelter tens of thousands of people who are sitting in jails right now before they've been triedTHAT'S DIFFERENT IT ONLY COSTS TAXPAYERS 150,000,000,000 DIMES A YEAR TO INCARCERATE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T MAKE BAIL CUCK

[Thread]

Typical bullshit, pushing the problem down the road. The bottleneck now will be that people don't show up for their hearing. Why should they? They have nothing invested.

I agree with Sanders on this issue.

The potential & execution to dogpile (the accused) monetarily has always been the elephant in the room. Illuminating that room as we've seen thru these police videos (on body cameras) & the mixing of police & court is vulgar. Portending not to look is dangerous.

[florige]

This primary definitely has the feel for Sanders that the 2016 primary had for Trump. If there was one unified alternative to Sanders he’d probably be toast, but he’s got a fiercely loyal backing while no other candidate does.


The real reason why I think it should be Bernie or bust for the Dem's is his followers are Bernie or nothing, or Trump. Yeah a few of them may vote for whoever the Dem candidate is, but the majority will say Bernie got robbed and either stay home or vote for Trump.

[koriwhat]

fingers crossed for more heart attacks for all commies!

https://blog.emojipedia.org/content/images/2016/12/fingers-crossed.jpg

[spurraider21]

DNC Mulls Asking Donald Trump To Run As Democrat In Effort To Stop Sanders (https://politics.theonion.com/dnc-mulls-asking-donald-trump-to-run-as-democrat-in-eff-1841432132?utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&fbclid=IwAR0Cp3vO-RRYS8JGJKBUXm6r1AcnX64ob5ALcuKV3mmik_tNU-x3MH9OTjo)
:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/McCormickProf/status/1226359753934352385?s=19

[spurraider21]

Uhh. Ok?

parties have platforms

[Will Hunting]

DNC Mulls Asking Donald Trump To Run As Democrat In Effort To Stop Sanders (https://politics.theonion.com/dnc-mulls-asking-donald-trump-to-run-as-democrat-in-eff-1841432132?utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&fbclid=IwAR0Cp3vO-RRYS8JGJKBUXm6r1AcnX64ob5ALcuKV3mmik_tNU-x3MH9OTjo)


:lol
It’s funny because you can replace “Donald Trump” with “Mike Bloomberg” and all of those quotes from Perez would be pretty spot on.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/McCormickProf/status/1226359753934352385?s=19

Bernie on a roll :tu

love that old bastard

[hater]

https://twitter.com/passwordsuck2/status/1225306214168432641?s=21

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/passwordsuck2/status/1225306214168432641?s=21Did you ever come up with a coherent conspiracy theory for Iowa or do you just want to gloss over your complete lack of one?

[boutons_deux]

MSDNC trying hard to kill Sanders campaign

Chuck Todd ‘should apologize and resign’: MSNBC anchor blasted for Nazi smear on leading Democrat

for likening the supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to Nazi brownshirts —

despite the fact Sanders is the first Jewish candidate to put together a viable campaign for president and

lost family members in the Holocaust.

“No other candidate has anything like this sort of digital brownshirt brigade,” Last wrote (https://thebulwark.com/newsletter-issue/bernie-bros-and-the-internet-of-beefs/).

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/chuck-todd-should-apologize-and-resign-msnbc-anchor-blasted-for-nazi-smear-on-leading-democrat/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/chuck-todd-should-apologize-and-resign-msnbc-anchor-blasted-for-nazi-smear-on-leading-democrat/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Bernie Bros slander

Bernie supporters are Nazi Brown Shirts

A Jew, not a Dem, and progressive. The Dem establishment, Clintons, Peloie, Obama and their media hit squads will block Bernie

[DarrinS]

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[Spurs Homer]

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bernie ftw

[hater]

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:lmao

[phxspurfan]

Bernard Sanders

[spurraider21]

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:lol people that let cable news dictate their decisions

if she wants to play the anti-establishment card she could easily look to other democrat lawmakers and the DNC as better targets than MSNBC

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bernie!!!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1227402723643052032?s=19

lol

[DMC]

:lol people that let cable news dictate their decisions

if she wants to play the anti-establishment card she could easily look to other democrat lawmakers and the DNC as better targets than MSNBC
There's nothing this country likes more than a victim. If they think Bernie's the victim of his own party which continuing the 2016 narrative he could very well be, it's not anti-establishment to vote for him. Maybe they're trying to right their own party by teaching them a lesson.

[boutons_deux]

The Jews are going after Jew Bernie

Pro-Israel Group Led By Top Democratic Pollster Planning Anti-Bernie Ads In Nevada

Democratic Majority For Israel (DMFI,) which advocates for Israel within the party, has begun calling Nevada Democrats to recruit a diverse set of voters that reflects the state to provide testimonials for the ad

Martin Hamburger,

“I’mputtingtogetheranad advocating for Democratsinthe caucuses in Nevada to vote for a nominee who is electable, and of course, making the

argument that there are some candidates, including Senator Sanders, who are not electable,”

in Nevada, with the influential Culinary Union (https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/a-powerful-nevada-union-tries-to-kneecap-bernie-sanders-just-as-he-celebrates-his-big-new-hampshire-victory/) sending out a handout Tuesday night as he gave his victory speech, alerting its 60,000 members to the fact that

his Medicare for All plan would end their negotiated union health care.

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/pro-israel-group-led-by-top-democratic-pollster-planning-anti-bernie-ads-in-nevada/

stupid chefs and busboys ignorant that Medicare for all would obviate the need for union health plans with employers and for-profit health insurer wealth suckers.

[spurraider21]

Who decides “electability”

[boutons_deux]

If the Dem convention is contested between Bernie and another, then the superdelegates will vote non-Dem/progressive Bernie out.

[DarrinS]

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1227402723643052032?s=19

lol


Well, no matter who they nominate, that person will be white. Not sure why she had to include that.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1227402723643052032?s=19

lol

mccain good now

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie or bust.

[Will Hunting]

Well, no matter who they nominate, that person will be white. Not sure why she had to include that.
:lol I was actually going to say the same thing. Why did she feel the need to make it about race? The thought of a Sanders presidency has her unhinged to the point where she can’t think coherently.

[hater]

Did you ever come up with a coherent conspiracy theory for Iowa or do you just want to gloss over your complete lack of one?

I am once again asking you to go cry about it

[spurraider21]

:lol I was actually going to say the same thing. Why did she feel the need to make it about race? The thought of a Sanders presidency has her unhinged to the point where she can’t think coherently.
Bernie Derangement Syndrome

[ChumpDumper]

I am once again asking you to go cry about it:lol once again hater folds

Sad.