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boutons_deux
02-12-2020, 02:33 PM
Talking Points For News Anchors Against Sanders (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/12/talking-points-for-news-anchors-against-sanders/)

1. Bernie Sanders is a self-described socialist. A socialist cannot win in America. Repeat. A socialist cannot win in America.

2. Black people don’t like him, and you need blacks to win. Black church women are the backbone of the party, and they will not vote for an old socialist atheist Jew. Period.

3. He has “Bernie bros” in his campaign, young white men who hate women. There are emails showing this! And he told Warren (she says) a woman can’t win. Next!

4. He hasn’t explained how he will finance universal health care, and he wants to take your private insurance away. Americans love their insurance companies.

5. He is an unlikable, angry old man. Nobody likes him. Repeat. Nobody likes Bernie.

6. In 1985 on a trip to Nicaragua Sanders praised the achievements of the Cuban revolution and that of the Sandinistas. He’s pro-communist. Full stop.

7. Polls show the voters want a moderate, not a progressive radical. Enough said.

8. Trump would win in a Trump-Sanders match because it would be a choice between capitalism and socialism and the masses—as Americans—prefer capitalism.


talking points changing as CNN and MSNBC are forced to accept, post-New Hampshire, post-Super Tuesday, a de facto Sanders-Trump contest.


1. Bernie Sanders’ “socialism” is like that of many U.S. European allies. It’s actually not that big of an issue.

2. Young African-Americans are supportive of Bernie, and many African-American celebrities have actually embraced his campaign.

3. He has strong support from women, especially young women.

4. He has a detailed proposal for universal health care, which Congress will have to address. It’s not like a president has unlimited power. The point is, he has a progressive vision of health care reform.

5. He is a cantankerous old guy, but so what? He’s obviously widely loved. Surely more than Hillary.

6. He like many people in this country never bought into the Cold War brainwashing. What he said about Cuba was true.

7. Polls show the voters are actually comfortable with a “democratic socialist” candidate (due to the failure of that brainwashing).

8. It is not a choice between capitalism and socialism and the masses have become less influenced by Cold War fear-mongering.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/12/talking-points-for-news-anchors-against-sanders/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/12/talking-points-for-news-anchors-against-sanders/)

hater
02-12-2020, 02:37 PM
:lol once again hater folds

Sad.

I am once again asking you to go cry about it

boutons_deux
02-13-2020, 08:04 AM
Sanders argues Medicare for All is vital for union workers:

‘They’re losing wage increases because cost of healthcare is soaring’

“If you talk to union negotiators, they will tell you they spend half of their time arguing against cutbacks for the healthcare that they have.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/sanders-argues-medicare-for-all-is-vital-for-union-workers-theyre-losing-wage-increases-because-cost-of-healthcare-is-soaring/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/sanders-argues-medicare-for-all-is-vital-for-union-workers-theyre-losing-wage-increases-because-cost-of-healthcare-is-soaring/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Sure sounds like for-profit health care lobbyists got, paid?, the Nevada Culinary union to attack Bernie just as he won the first two primaries, with DNC/"centrist" Dems piling on, all whores to for-profit health care.

Death In June
02-13-2020, 09:13 AM
On the McCain quote...Why would anyone care what that idiot thinks. She's the perfect example of failing upwards because the right person shit them out. Seriously, why the fuck is she on TV?

Will Hunting
02-13-2020, 09:34 AM
On the McCain quote...Why would anyone care what that idiot thinks. She's the perfect example of failing upwards because the right person shit them out. Seriously, why the fuck is she on TV?
:tu no one would know who that dumb whore is if her last name wasn’t McCain.

boutons_deux
02-13-2020, 12:11 PM
Seriously, why the fuck is she on TV?

she's there as counterpoint to the other ladies, staged cat fights / controversy attracts (women) viewers more than no controversy.

It's so nasty, on and off stage, one of the recently ladies quit in disgust and frustration.

Thread
02-13-2020, 01:34 PM
she's there as counterpoint to the other ladies, staged cat fights / controversy attracts (women) viewers more than no controversy.

It's so nasty, on and off stage, one of the recently ladies quit in disgust and frustration.

...& because neither side (can count on her). That honest dynamic is needed in that group. Just when you think you have her side ID'ed she switches out & you're left forsaken & angry.

florige
02-13-2020, 01:47 PM
:tu no one would know who that dumb whore is if her last name wasn’t McCain.


I woulda thought she would be on the side of Sanders since she hates Trump so much. Are these talking pundits really that stupid to realize out of all the candidates on the Dem side Sanders is the only one who can straight up beat Trump.

boutons_deux
02-13-2020, 01:51 PM
The Red-Baiting of Bernie Sanders Has Begun and is Already Becoming Laughable (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/13/the-red-baiting-of-bernie-sanders-has-begun-and-is-already-becoming-laughable/)

right-wing columnist Marc Thiessen ... blaming the fiasco on “the same brilliant minds who came up with Medicare-for-All and the ‘Green New Deal.’”

His conclusion, “The Democrats’ failure in Iowa stemmed from the same fundamental flaw that has caused socialism to fail (sic) wherever it is tried — the hubris of a tiny cadre whose grand visions and lack of humility far exceed their ability to deliver.”

What Thiessen should have said was “The same brilliant minds in the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee who stole the primary from Bernie Sanders in 2016 are trying to do it again.”

He even linked the alleged “socialist” fiasco to Soviet Russia,

Matthews opined that if Sanders were to win the presidency, he would end up establishing a dictatorship and start having his opponents shot (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/08/chris-matthews-slammed-spreading-misinformation-about-sanders-democratic-socialist).

“I believe if Castro and the reds had won the Cold War there would have been executions in Central Park and I might have been one of the ones getting executed,” adding,

”I don’t know who Bernie Sanders supports over these years, I don’t know what he means by socialism.”

This is, I’m afraid, only the start.

all too many Americans unthinkingly accept and parrot this kind of ignorant nonsense.

our own excellently run Veterans Health Care system is a purely socialist example of a UK-style National Health System,

our Medicare program is a socialist-style, single-payer government-run health insurance

Trump’s vow in his State of the Union rant, to “never allow socialism” to “take over” the United States.

to people like Johnson, it’s countries like Russia, Ukraine, Byelorus and maybe China that have “oligarchs,” but not the US, where we instead have “billionaires” whom we often refer to euphemistically as “philanthropists”

So let’s take a look for the uneducated, ignorant and propagandized at what socialism and democratic socialism actually mean in the real world.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/13/the-red-baiting-of-bernie-sanders-has-begun-and-is-already-becoming-laughable/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/13/the-red-baiting-of-bernie-sanders-has-begun-and-is-already-becoming-laughable/)

hater
02-13-2020, 02:04 PM
but why cant they have a good looking conservative pussy??

this fat bitch is disgusting tbqh

im pretty sure you cound find a smarter much much prettier piece of conservative pussy if you want ratings

her fattas name is mccain one of the booodiest criminals in US history who is revered in this country for some sick reason thats the only reason shes in that show

hater
02-13-2020, 02:06 PM
ISIS sister on daytime tv and White Helmets (ISIS spokespeople) getting Oscars

thats how sick this country is tbqh

ChumpDumper
02-13-2020, 02:08 PM
kori checks in for his daily hate

TheGreatYacht
02-13-2020, 09:51 PM
Ro Khanna: Bernie Will Complete FDR's New Deal Legacy

https://youtu.be/Ka7ESDLyiSM

Nathan89
02-13-2020, 10:04 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1227951190497005569?s=20

Bernie didn't pass up the opportunity to push his narrative but now he's silent.

ElNono
02-13-2020, 10:05 PM
Sup Nathan, if Bernie wins the nomination, are you back on that bandwagon, tbh?

Reck
02-13-2020, 10:09 PM
lol going back a full year when juicy tried to fool the world for sympathy. Totally disqualifying there Bernie. Drop out now!

TheGreatYacht
02-13-2020, 10:22 PM
Sup Nathan, if Bernie wins the nomination, are you back on that bandwagon, tbh?

He's TFG (Too Far Gone). He got swallowed up by the SJW cookie monster and freedom of speech warrior (for conservatives only) figures like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson.

Chris
02-13-2020, 10:34 PM
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1228088243083759617?s=19

Did you make good decisions in a free market? Bernie is coming for that ass.

Chris
02-13-2020, 10:36 PM
https://i.ibb.co/hHRX80g/IMG-20200213-213547.jpg

DMC
02-13-2020, 10:55 PM
On the McCain quote...Why would anyone care what that idiot thinks. She's the perfect example of failing upwards because the right person shit them out. Seriously, why the fuck is she on TV?

Same reason Fredo and Anderson Cooper are on TV - their relatives.

phxspurfan
02-13-2020, 10:57 PM
https://i.ibb.co/hHRX80g/IMG-20200213-213547.jpg

Uh, not sure if you realize, but that's already happening to most of the higher earners in this country. Trump targeted them state by state based on who didn't vote for his orange ass. My tax rate is already like 50%.

Reck
02-13-2020, 10:58 PM
Same reason Fredo and Anderson Cooper are on TV - their relatives.

:lol Fredo
:lol Taking your cues from GOP talking heads
:lol Not a Trumper


:lol Fat

Chris
02-13-2020, 11:50 PM
Uh, not sure if you realize, but that's already happening to most of the higher earners in this country. Trump targeted them state by state based on who didn't vote for his orange ass. My tax rate is already like 50%.

https://www.thebalance.com/gop-tax-plan-your-tax-bill-4156584

phxspurfan
02-14-2020, 12:28 AM
Same reason Fredo and Anderson Cooper are on TV - their relatives.

Anderson cooper is on TV bc of Gloria Vanderbilt

phxspurfan
02-14-2020, 12:31 AM
https://www.thebalance.com/gop-tax-plan-your-tax-bill-4156584

Not sure what you’re implying by posting that link but I owed 25k after Trumps lovely bill last year. And I’m not a billionaire, millionaire or middle school educated redneck (Trump’s base).

DMC
02-14-2020, 12:46 AM
Uh, not sure if you realize, but that's already happening to most of the higher earners in this country. Trump targeted them state by state based on who didn't vote for his orange ass. My tax rate is already like 50%.

You're saying your federal taxes are higher because of what state you live in?

DMC
02-14-2020, 12:48 AM
Anderson cooper is on TV bc of Gloria Vanderbilt

No shit? Thanks for the update. I guess I knew what I was talking about then.

phxspurfan
02-14-2020, 12:48 AM
You're saying your federal taxes are higher because of what state you live in?

Correct.

florige
02-14-2020, 12:49 AM
Not sure what you’re implying by posting that link but I owed 25k after Trumps lovely bill last year. And I’m not a billionaire, millionaire or middle school educated redneck (Trump’s base).

Scare tactic

DMC
02-14-2020, 12:50 AM
:lol Fredo
:lol Taking your cues from GOP talking heads
:lol Not a Trumper


:lol Fat

Quicker than typing out his name, you knew immediately who I was talking about.

:lol Gender dysphoria

DMC
02-14-2020, 12:54 AM
Correct.

You'll have to explain that one. Federal tax rates are the same regardless which state you live in. Are you sure you're not referring to state taxes? Are you talking about income taxes?

Chris
02-14-2020, 12:56 AM
You'll have to explain that one. Federal tax rates are the same regardless which state you live in. Are you sure you're not referring to state taxes? Are you talking about income taxes?

Trump was influencing the governors through twitter.

DMC
02-14-2020, 01:01 AM
I'm thinking he is accustomed to deducting state and local taxes along with property taxes and since Texas has no state taxes, that's not something many here are familiar with. Either way, not allowing you to deduct your state taxes is a state issue, because you paid them taxes. The federal government i.e. taxpayer should not share in your state tax burden.

But hey, if you're paying 50% tax rate, you should be as happy as a pig in the sunshine, being the liberal you are.

spurraider21
02-14-2020, 03:10 AM
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1228088243083759617?s=19

Did you make good decisions in a free market? Bernie is coming for that ass.
https://media.tenor.com/images/5c6b255f6f726a613c04a8f785add151/tenor.gif

CosmicCowboy
02-14-2020, 06:28 AM
You'll have to explain that one. Federal tax rates are the same regardless which state you live in. Are you sure you're not referring to state taxes? Are you talking about income taxes?

They maxed out state tax deductions at 10K. It was unlimited before that. That includes state income tax and property tax. It cost me about 5k last year.

TheGreatYacht
02-14-2020, 03:36 PM
Trump: I'd Rather Run Against Bloomberg Than Bernie

https://youtu.be/QL8fmpU2zXQ
https://mobile.twitter.com/BernForBernie20/status/1221220409833611277

Chris
02-19-2020, 04:07 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1230180982994558976?s=19

Chris
03-02-2020, 05:13 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1234410681920782338?s=19

hater
03-02-2020, 05:53 AM
:lmao Righties terrified

boutons_deux
03-02-2020, 06:56 AM
Silicon Valley Leaders’ Plea to Democrats: Anyone but Sanders

Their tech employees are a different story.

Mr. Rabois, who has been a top executive at or invested in

LinkedIn,
Square,
Yelp and
PayPal,

balked. Speaking to the crowd, he drew the line at democratic socialism (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/bernie-sanders.html). (Mr. Buttigieg ended his campaign (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html) on Sunday night.)

“I would certainly vote for Trump over Sanders,” Mr. Rabois declared.

(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/technology/silicon-valley-bernie-sanders.html)https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/technology/silicon-valley-bernie-sanders.html

iow, no matter how many people Trash tortures and kills, no matter how much of the environment Trash poisons and destroys, Rabois would prefer Trash to Bernie.

Voila, that's Capitalism: sadistic, predatory, extractive, inhumane.

Raging liberal Silicon Valley types are extremely conservative in their

don't-ever-fucking-think-of-touching-my-cheese money politics.

Can SV world-beaters' $Bs spent against Bernie overwhelm the votes of their pro-Bernie employees?

Reck
03-02-2020, 07:40 AM
That’s the reality of it, boots. Many people aren’t willing to hold their nose and vote for just any candidate.

You have to have more than your base backing you. In this guy’s case no one cares because he’s a rich asshole just looking out for his wallet.

florige
03-02-2020, 10:28 AM
:lmao Righties terrified


Yeah I thought that Bernie would be a walk in the park candidate for Trump to walk all over. Strange to see scare tactics this early before Bernie has even secured the nomination yet.

Will Hunting
03-02-2020, 10:36 AM
You have to have more than your base backing you.
The current president disagrees.

Spurs Homer
03-02-2020, 11:00 AM
That’s the reality of it, boots. Many people aren’t willing to hold their nose and vote for just any candidate.

You have to have more than your base backing you. In this guy’s case no one cares because he’s a rich asshole just looking out for his wallet.


wtf?


it defines EVERY trump voter -

dont believe the bullshit - you have NEVER EVER heard a convincing argument that Trump is an actual decent human -

you HAVE heard a million: "yeah I know he is a ______, ______, & I dont like his _____, _______ & ____ -


but-but - judges....guns....abortion...."


the ONLY reason we have a traitor nazi in the white house (besides russias work) - is because everyone held their nose and destroyed this country with EXACTLY that sentiment and cowardice.

Reck
03-02-2020, 01:50 PM
wtf?


it defines EVERY trump voter -

dont believe the bullshit - you have NEVER EVER heard a convincing argument that Trump is an actual decent human -

you HAVE heard a million: "yeah I know he is a ______, ______, & I dont like his _____, _______ & ____ -


but-but - judges....guns....abortion...."


the ONLY reason we have a traitor nazi in the white house (besides russias work) - is because everyone held their nose and destroyed this country with EXACTLY that sentiment and cowardice.

Key word being many.

Quite frankly I feel the same to a way lesser degree. I wouldn’t vote for Trump under any circumstances but I also refuse to vote for Bloomberg, full stop.

ElNono
03-02-2020, 02:37 PM
The current president disagrees.

This is not true though. The Rust Belt isn’t largely his base, and they were fairly instrumental in giving him the Presidency.