Bernie Sanders

[angrydude]

:rolleyes

If Hillary is the future of the Democratic Party then they are just as out of touch with real progressives as the GOP leadership is to most conservatives

They aren't out of touch. They just don't care.

Go on pretending there is any difference between the two political parties.

[boutons_deux]

A Clinton Superdelegate Just Confirmed He Has Zero Loyalty to Voters

A Hillary Clinton superdelegate has the worst argument yet for going against his state’s voters.

In a recent interview, Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper admitted that superdelegates, who are not required to follow the popular vote at the Democratic National Convention, are told to ignore the will of voters (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/05/23/john-hickenlooper-colorado-clinton-trump/84747322/?AID=10709313&PID=6160645&SID=iokp51k8tg0110e300dth).

“The superdelegates are specifically told … you’re supposed to look at not the vote but the person who you think is best ready to be president,” Gov. Hickenlooper told USA Today.

http://usuncut.com/politics/hickenlooper-clinton-superdelegate/

[boutons_deux]

Twitter Just Responded to Hillary Clinton’s Refusal to Debate Bernie Sanders

Hillary Clinton suggested the reason she wouldn’t debate Bernie Sanders in New York was due to his “tone.” The internet isn’t buying it.
On Twitter, the hashtag #ToneDownForWhat (which plays off the the name of the ubiquitous Lil Jon party anthem “Turn Down for What (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU)“) took the former Secretary of State to task for her campaign’s official response to Sen. Sanders’ debate challenge. For instance, one Twitter user aptly noted that had the shoe been on the other foot and if Sanders had been the one to accuse Hillary Clinton of having a particular “tone” to her campaign, he would have been labeled as sexist.

As US Uncut reported earlier today (http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-refuses-new-york-debate/), a Clinton campaign strategist told CNN in a live interview segment that Sen. Sanders’ campaign ads had a negative tone to them, and that until he changed his tone, Clinton wouldn’t be agreeing to a debate in New York.


Twitter let Clinton know that Sanders’ “tone” was far shy of what she could expect from Donald Trump in a general election matchup, or from ISIS if she were to be elected president and have to contend with the terrorist group running amok in the Middle East:


(http://twitter.com/SavionWright/status/714579715009286145/photo/1)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeqydUxW4AEc3lW.jpg



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceq-9hpWQAERsN9.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeqdkQkWsAA1Crc.jpg

Goodbye Third Way ‎@goodbyethirdway (https://twitter.com/goodbyethirdway)

"You should be willing to debate any time; anywhere." -@HillaryClinton (https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton) #ToneDownForWhat (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ToneDownForWhat?src=hash)
5:32 PM - 28 Mar 2016 (https://twitter.com/goodbyethirdway/status/714581046663057408)





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2,5552,555 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=714581046663057408)



2,3812,381 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=714581046663057408)
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http://usuncut.com/news/tonedownforwhat-hillary-clinton-ny-debate/

[Reck]

^The democratic party has given in too many Bernie demands. It's enough.

They keep bending over backwards to give him a platform in July and he goes on a rant about how the convention will get messy and now is contesting Kentucky.

This guy is worst than Trump when it comes to losing.

[DMX7]

A Clinton Superdelegate Just Confirmed He Has Zero Loyalty to Voters

A Hillary Clinton superdelegate has the worst argument yet for going against his state’s voters.

In a recent interview, Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper admitted that superdelegates, who are not required to follow the popular vote at the Democratic National Convention, are told to ignore the will of voters (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/05/23/john-hickenlooper-colorado-clinton-trump/84747322/?AID=10709313&PID=6160645&SID=iokp51k8tg0110e300dth).

“The superdelegates are specifically told … you’re supposed to look at not the vote but the person who you think is best ready to be president,” Gov. Hickenlooper told USA Today.

http://usuncut.com/politics/hickenlooper-clinton-superdelegate/





No shit... that's why they're super-delegates and not pledged delegates.

[z0sa]

^The democratic party has given in too many Bernie demands. It's enough.

They keep bending over backwards to give him a platform in July and he goes on a rant about how the convention will get messy and now is contesting Kentucky.

This guy is worst than Trump when it comes to losing.

Lol comparing Bernie and Trump. He causes circus behavior even when he wins uncontested. Youre as intellectually dishonest as liberals come, or should I say, neoliberals.

The real hilarity of avoiding foreign interventionary wars; leading the charge for passing legislation to give our leaders the power break up the biggest banks if deemed necessary; closing tax loopholes for the rich; fighting for a higher minimum wage during a period of downward momentum and government safety nets run amok; taxing the rich a high percentage during a time of war and historic debt; rebuilding our roads and bridges - and the most far reaching and important battle of all, that perhaps futile yet honorable attempt at reversing the despicable use of American sanctioned slave labor under the banner of free trade: these arent even far left wing policies.

Theyre just common fucking sense.

But here you are, the perfect neolib microcosm of any given CNN comments section, whining vaguely as usual about the democratic platform already being "progressive" enough, about how the democrats are bending over too far for that socialist. No no no, that will not do! The game never changes. The circle goes round and round, til all is ground to dust.

When - if - history finally passes judgment on you...you and the rest of your neoliberal brethren will find yourselves standing shoulder to shoulder with the very antithesis of progressive , nay, sensical thought.

Yes, shoulder to shoulder your "liberal" majority will be shown with other "tough on crime" racists who perpetrated a campaign of injustice against the poorest and least educated citizens in our country. furthermore, you all will be seen smiling at your leader's reach across the aisle while a mass of poor, uneducated sub 90 iq "citizens" whose families you eternally pay lip service to on voting day learn to live and die behind iron and steel. This first great movement of new liberals worships Clintons, not even flinching when so called justice multiplies the feared super predator numbers exponentially.

You will be a majority depicted cowering before those who disenfranchised voters en masse, all the while demanding austerity for all but the rich and powerful in this country's darkest era other than the 2nd WW - 15 years of war, 20 trillion and counting borrowed on your good faith.

You will be shown marching in lockstep behind so called enlightened ones who paid lip service to the "queerfolk," opposed living wages from corporations whose bottom line depends upon both the government teat, opposed vesting power in the representatives of the people to break up TBTF entities, and who opposed bringing justice to the criminals responsible for the evaporation of the wealth of millions.

And like Orwellian pigs, you will have become indistinguishable from the monsters of yesterday.

A hundred years from now students attending higher education institutions for a fraction of today's costs per hour will ask their professors why the neoliberals allied with neocons on a common front for oligarchs utterly opposed to the upward momentum the majority of both groups would directly benefit from.

"What motivated your actions?" one student may ask of our generation's bones that far off day. "Were you all unaware of the undeniable decline of the country's middle class, of the billions profited turning vulnerable and petty alike into hardened criminals, of the grandiose transfer of wealth to the elite, of the crushing debt of college degrees, of the assail upon your very livelihoods by the richest among us?"

"Can you truly plead ignorance to these, to the degradation of the real, tangible privileges Americans once demanded as the most industrious and free population on earth? At what point or points did you align yourselves with the work of shilling and war and debt, so that we may learn and the mistakes made at the turn of the millenium will not be repeated?"




Perhaps in the future, im wrong, and it shall be your brethren who sow your seeds and perspective far more abundantly to the four winds. Maybe it is those like me who will be found insane, the fringe who will be pondered as the fools standing against inevitable crushing debilitating progress.

Not likely, of course - such distraction reduces the efficiency of a serf.

[boutons_deux]

“Networks are Colluding” to Declare Clinton the Overall Winner Before California Polls Close (http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/05/gaius-publius-networks-are-colluding-to-declare-clinton-the-overall-winner-before-california-polls-close.html)


When a grown man tells you he is about to start trouble, believe him.

What followed, if Matthews is to be taken at his word, is

clear evidence that television networks are colluding together to call the primary for Hillary Clinton before she reaches the delegates needed to claim victory. By doing so, they will absolutely suppress the vote in the final states that will be cast ballots in the Democratic primary.

Even by mentioning it now, that the networks have already set the date and time they are calling the race for Hillary, what Matthews has done runs the very real risk of suppressing voter turnout. It’s disgusting.


That date and time is 8:00 pm Eastern time, 5:00 pm Pacific time, on June 7, the night of the California primary. (Also the night of five other primaries or caucuses and the last-but-one night of Democratic Party voting.)
Here’s the Matthews quote from the video above (https://youtu.be/wGG3DJAALkw):

MATTHEWS: This what I call “trouble,” [what] I’m about to start [saying or asking] here.

I’m told by the experts on numbers around here on NBC and elsewhere that come June 7, the day of the California primary — which your candidate [pointing to Jeff Weaver], I totally understand, wants to get to and maybe has a chance to knock off Hillary at that event, a big last hurrah — that at 8:00 that night Eastern time, that the networks will be prepared, including this one, to announce that Hillary Clinton has gotten over the top, that she will have won the nomination in numbers. It’s done.

What will that do to turnout, if that’s 5:00 Pacific time with three more hours to vote in California? Who will be least likely to vote,
Sanders people from five to eight [o’clock] or Hillary. I’ve heard both theories.


Weaver answers the question in the only way that makes sense — that the announcement will be wrong, because the superdelegates don’t vote until the convention.

But that’s not the point here. Forget Matthew’s foolish question (“What will that do to turnout?”) and read the intro to it.

If Matthews is right, so is my headline, and so is Shaun King.

The establishment, corporate-owned “networks are colluding” to declare Hillary Clinton the overall Democratic winner before California polls close.

And they know it will affect turnout; they just aren’t sure whose.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/05/gaius-publius-networks-are-colluding-to-declare-clinton-the-overall-winner-before-california-polls-close.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capi talism%29

BigFinance bought Hillary, and they're damn sure gonna take delivery.

Bernie is 2 points behind Hillary in Cali.

The above collusion to suppress voting could certainly make difference in CA.

[FkLA]

Nothing new. The networks have had a bias for Shillary all along. They called AZ after early votes were counted really early even though people were in line till after midnight.

[Reck]

Nothing new. The networks have had a bias for Shillary all along. They called AZ after early votes were counted really early even though people were in line till after midnight.

To be fair, they do that only when the win is a landslide.

She ended up winning Arizona by nearly 20 points.

[FkLA]

To be fair, they do that only when the win is a landslide.

She ended up winning Arizona by nearly 20 points.

Sure, if we ignore the fact that Maricopa county, which favored Bernie, mysteriously had a huge drop off in voter turnout. Not to mention all the people that likely went home due to the long lines+networks calling the race so early (again Bernie had the edge in day of voting).

[Will Hunting]

Shadowflamer might be the only person I've ever encountered in the internet or in real life who actually likes Shillary :lol

Most people just vote for her because they're dumb n!ggers or because they recognize the Clinton name more than they recognize Sanders or because they heard Sanders is a :crysocialist:cry

Shadowflamer must be a special kind of retard to actually like her and think she's a good candidate who represents working class Americans :lol

[Reck]

Shadowflamer might be the only person I've ever encountered in the internet or in real life who actually likes Shillary :lol

Most people just vote for her because they're dumb n!ggers or because they recognize the Clinton name more than they recognize Sanders or because they heard Sanders is a :crysocialist:cry

Shadowflamer must be a special kind of retard to actually like her and think she's a good candidate who represents working class Americans :lol

You sound just a tad bit butthurt.

:lol still using alts in 2016. Pussy nigga.

[Mitch]

You sound just a tad bit butthurt.

:lol still using alts in 2016. Pussy nigga.

Yo Reck, why is Hillary cancelling her campaigning in NJ for California? :lol

She feeling threatened by old man sanders?

[Reck]

Yo Reck, why is Hillary cancelling her campaigning in NJ for California? :lol

She feeling threatened by old man sanders?

NJ is a sure thing my nig.

Losing California would be embarassing as fuck. :lol

Specially when Sander is down to like 6 millions and she has 30 millions on hand apparently.


In the latest FEC filing, Sanders was shown to have raised $26.9 million in April but spent $38.6 million. That leaves him with $5.8 million left in his campaign war chest. Meanwhile, his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton raised $25 million in April and spent $23.9 million. That left her going into the next month with $30 million to play with, nearly five times the amount that Sanders has.

If you lose that state with that much money left, kill yourself.

[Mitch]

NJ is a sure thing my nig.

Losing California would be embarassing as fuck. :lol

Specially when Sander is down to like 6 millions and she has 30 millions on hand apparently.



If you lose that state with that much money left, kill yourself.

Hillary only has 30m? Didn't she have like 300m overall? :lol

What are these morons doing, throwing the money into incinerators? :lmao

[FkLA]

Shillary has a lot more than $30 million left tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUEjDvR2EW4

[Mitch]

Shillary has a lot more than $30 million left tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUEjDvR2EW4

Think if she's indicted she'll bail herself out and still run? :lol

[FkLA]

Think if she's indicted she'll bail herself out and still run? :lol

That dirty snake has the money to do that is she wanted to. That's for sure.

[z0sa]

Shadowflamer might be the only person I've ever encountered in the internet or in real life who actually likes Shillary :lol

Most people just vote for her because they're dumb n!ggers or because they recognize the Clinton name more than they recognize Sanders or because they heard Sanders is a :crysocialist:cry

Shadowflamer must be a special kind of retard to actually like her and think she's a good candidate who represents working class Americans :lol

Truth nuke.

[Fabbs]

What are the current numbers if Bern runs as an Indie?

Does he Bern on Trump?

[Nbadan]

The super delegate primary is worth 714 delegates this year, 15% of the total pool of delegates.

They aren't bound and haven't voted yet. They won't vote in the super delegate primary until July 25-28.

If Bernie sticks with it until the convention, the race will continue not with appeals to common voters, but with appeals to the super delegates. Bernie will make his case as to why he is the stronger candidate and Hillary will seek to prevent defections in the shadow of an FBI criminal investigation.

We'd have about a month and a half of the leg of the race. A lot of news and headlines will come and go.

It will be interesting, for sure. Will there be any cracks in the super delegate damn from Hillary to Bernie? Doubtful at this point.

Meanwhile, the repub convention is a week prior to the Dem's. Trumpy and some scary doofus (Kim Jong un?) will accept he batshit nomination.

I wonder if/when Hillary will announce her VP?

I can see serious pressure and calls for Bernie to drop. But he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by staying in. He has the leverage. He's the thorn in the DNC's side that they want to go away. But he has the support of over 10 million voters. Only two candidate have every received more Democratic votes in a primary: Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama.

[boutons_deux]

Why does Sanders do better than Clinton against Trump?

http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/if_the_2016_presidential_election_were_being_held_ today._clinton_trump_chartbuilder_10.png

http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/if_the_2016_presidential_election_were_being_held_ today._sanders_trump_chartbuilder.png



The focus of this analysis is voters who support Sanders, but not Clinton, against Trump

The data suggest Clinton will have a hard time winning over this group of Sanders supporters because of the reason they didn’t choose Clinton over Trump: opposition to Clinton.

More than six in 10 Sanders but not Clinton supporters said the most important reason for their vote choice was because of opposition to her.

This is far higher than either consistent partisan group’s reason for selecting their candidate: 32 percent of consistent Trump supporters picked him in opposition to Clinton and 34 percent of consistent Democrats picked Clinton in opposition to Trump.

The notion that party-abandoning Democrats are the reason Sanders does better against Trump is just not supported by the data.

The analysis shows they are moderate, non-partisan voters who dislike both candidates but are most intense in their feelings about Clinton.

This presents a real challenge for Clinton and provides some evidence that 2016 Democratic voters might not stay true to their party as they did in 2008. History may repeat itself and Clinton may find a way to bring these voters to her side, but the task is potentially taller.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-does-sanders-do-better-clinton-against-trump?cid=sm_fb_lastword

Hillary is nearly as hated/disliked as much as Trash.

Dem delegates will probably nominate Hillary, the WEAKER opponent against Trash.

Amazing that she could be the next Pres. Trash certainly won't be.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

you guys are hallucinating.

There is NO WAY the DNC allows Bernie to get the nomination under any circumstances. He is not in the "club" and never will be.

[boutons_deux]

the biggest hallucination is your own, hallucinating the Bernie supporters don't know what's going on.

Trash or Hillary? America stays fucked and unfuckable.

[DMX7]

Everyone should have known from the start it would be Trump vs. Hillary. Bernie is an FDR democrat which basically means he doesn't belong in today's democratic party as instituted by the establishment. Just look at the super-delegate vote count. He was never going to win unless he romped Hillary and that wasn't going to happen.

[Reck]

Everyone should have known from the start it would be Trump vs. Hillary. Bernie is an FDR democrat which basically means he doesn't belong in today's democratic party as instituted by the establishment. Just look at the super-delegate vote count. He was never going to win unless he romped Hillary and that wasn't going to happen.

Bullshit.

He had a chance but he didn't take the southern states seriously. Instead he mocked them.

Race was won and lost there.

[CosmicCowboy]

I still don't understand why blacks are almost unanimously on board for Hillary and not Bernie. Is it just name recognition? Is it Bernie's criticism of Obama as not being progressive enough?

[DMX7]

Bullshit.

He had a chance but he didn't take the southern states seriously. Instead he mocked them.

Race was won and lost there.

No, he had limited resources and choose to use them where he was most competitive which was not the South. That's not a mistake. Hillary had too many advantages for him to overcome.

[DMX7]

I still don't understand why blacks are almost unanimously on board for Hillary and not Bernie. Is it just name recognition? Is it Bernie's criticism of Obama as not being progressive enough?

Probably a lack of familiarity with Bernie and a comfort factor with Hillary.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Was Bernie officially out of it last night or was it more media manipulation?

[Reck]

Was Bernie officially out of it last night or was it more media manipulation?

Media manipulation.

She did actually crossed the magic number but only because of the superdelegates.

[boutons_deux]

I still don't understand why blacks are almost unanimously on board for Hillary and not Bernie. Is it just name recognition? Is it Bernie's criticism of Obama as not being progressive enough?

vestigious good will left over from Slick Willie, the "first black President", really fucked up the economy (blacks suffer worst), fucked up welfare (blacks suffer worst) and fucked incarceration rate (blacks suffer worst).

Certainly, Bernie's non-race-specific economic policies will float the black boats as much as any other group, and much more than the non-policies by Hillary.

It's not only the Repug supporters who are (politically) ignorant fuckoffs.

[boutons_deux]

Trash will certainly make the below numbers ever worse.

Hillary will do nothing to prevent them staying the same or letting them worsen, and/or sign a bunch Repug shit just like Slick Willie did.

Only Bernie will try to do something about the numbers, but the strict obstructionist Repugs would block him

Trump vs. Hillary – Two Surprising Views; Is Trump getting Romnified?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CinBCQUXAAM7Oot.jpg

http://www.cinemarasik.com/2016/06/trump-vs-hillary-two-surprising-views-is-trump-getting-romnified/

[boutons_deux]

Bernie is having a big impact on the Dem platform

Democrats call for ‘pathway’ to marijuana legalization

The Democratic Party endorsed a "reasoned pathway to future legalization" of marijuana and called for the drug to be downgraded in the Controlled Substances Act, in a tense and unexpected victory for supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Going into the platform committee meeting, Sanders's campaign had no new language about marijuana. The senator from Vermont had favored state-to-state legalization efforts, and the language approved by the drafting committee called for "policies that will allow more research on marijuana, as well as reforming our laws to allow legal marijuana businesses to exist without uncertainty."

But on Saturday afternoon, the committee brought up an amendment that would have removed marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act. David King, a lawyer and Sanders delegate from Tennessee, argued that marijuana was added to the act — giving the drug the same legal classification as heroin — during a "craze" to hurt "hippies and blacks." The amendment, however, was headed for defeat, with some committee members worrying that it went too far and undermined state-by-state efforts to study decriminalization.

Arguments stopped when committee members proposed swapping in the language of a rival amendment — one that merely downgraded marijuana from Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substance Act and included the undefined "pathway" to legal status.

When the vote was called, 81 of the 187 committee members backed the downgrade amendment — and just 80 opposed it. A roar of applause went up from the seats where people not on the committee were watching the votes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/democrats-call-for-pathway-to-marijuana-legalization/

Bernie wins on dope and climate but loses on TPP/trade (is what really counts to the Dem donors)

[boutons_deux]

'We Have Just Written Half of the GOP Platform': Progressives Dismayed by Dem Party Platform

Sanders supporters celebrated $15 minimum wage amendment and declaration of 'climate emergency,' but condemned Clinton surrogates' rejection of a postal banking system and an end to corporate welfare

many Bernie Sanders surrogates have watched in disbelief as core progressive principles have been waylaid (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/06/28/clinton-campaign-obstructing-change-democratic-platform)—largely by Hillary Clinton supporters.



The trend continued on the second-to-last day of platform negotiations in Orlando, Florida, when

Clinton surrogates on Friday rejected an amendment supporting the creation of a postal banking system (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/23/fighting-alternative-big-banks), modeled on the one in North Dakota,

as well as measures that would end corporate welfare and

lay penalties on companies for offshoring jobs,

lift the $250,000 income cap on the social security tax, and

expand cost of living increases for senior citizens' social security benefits.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/09/we-have-just-written-half-gop-platform-progressives-dismayed-dem-party-platform


Hillary and her supporters are center right/moderate Repugs, corrupted by the same donors that corrupt the Repugs.

[MultiTroll]

Feel the Bern.

Bern kicking ass right now during his Clinton speech.

[Reck]

Trump is fucked.

[TheGreatYacht]

That speech was great. Glad to have him on board

Trump melting right before our eyes :lmao

Its over, nerds!

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

premature ejaculation

[CosmicCowboy]

I fully expect Clinton to win but you pompom wavers are hilarious.

[Pelicans78]

Definitely premature ejaculation. Hillary will get a bump from the convention, but the debates will be the real key. Hillary's still a deeply flawed candidate and a **** which 60-70% of voters dislike.

[Reck]

Definitely premature ejaculation. Hillary will get a bump from the convention, but the debates will be the real key. Hillary's still a deeply flawed candidate and a **** which 60-70% of voters dislike.

The debates will be the easiest part of this whole deal.

Hillary is pretty good at laying out the issues. Heck, she just went into details on what she wants to do and added a few more while explaining the how and the why.

Trump is the oposite. I've never heard Trump explain himself in the least. He doesn't go beyond crazy talking points like the wall and some other shit.

If the debates are kept to within the issues, I feel sorry for Trump.

If it devolve into insults, then Trump has the upper hand.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao

premature ejaculation

by your characterization that makes you the semen shield. congratulations, pedobear.

[TheGreatYacht]

Definitely premature ejaculation. Hillary will get a bump from the convention, but the debates will be the real key. Hillary's still a deeply flawed candidate and a **** which 60-70% of voters dislike.
Hillary is one of the best politicians out there. Can go for hours, literally.

Trump is fucked once he has to answer real topics and go into detail for once.

[Pelicans78]

The debates will be the easiest part of this whole deal.

Hillary is pretty good at laying out the issues. Heck, she just went into details on what she wants to do and added a few more while explaining the how and the why.

Trump is the oposite. I've never heard Trump explain himself in the least. He doesn't go beyond crazy talking points like the wall and some other shit.

If the debates are kept to within the issues, I feel sorry for Trump.

If it devolve into insults, then Trump has the upper hand.

All the debates Trump has been involved with has also ended up with insults. He's gonna be insulting her for the next four months. The debates will bring it all together. The biggest problem with Trump will be the lack of polish from him and his campaign. They've been sloppy throughout this process. Her biggest problem is her general record and trust issues.

[Pelicans78]

Hillary is one of the best politicians out there. Can go for hours, literally.

Trump is fucked once he has to answer real topics and go into detail for once.

That's BS. She's not the politician her hubby or Obama have been. She's doesn't come across as likeable or genuine. Has little charisma. And she won't have enough time to go into heavy details during a debate where you get at the most 2 minutes per question. Usually, the person who attacks the most comes across well. However, Trump will be more prone into making dumb mistakes.

[z0sa]

There goes the 'revolution.'

[InRareForm]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHxJmGbgsbB/

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12657321_10207631382157060_5739333508013231924_o.j pg

[ducks]

Why did he not run with the Green Party they offered it to him
Did Clinton buy him not to

[ducks]

now he is scrambling if they pick a replacement and it is not him

[FrostKing]

Hillary is one of the best politicians out there. Can go for hours, literally.

Trump is fucked once he has to answer real topics and go into detail for once.


Trump is fucked.

:bobo

[Winehole23]

Bernie Sanders will increase Texas 200%.

That's what communists do.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0rGRvsUwAEw28g.jpg:large

[koriwhat]

Bernie Sanders will increase Texas 200%.

That's what communists do.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0rGRvsUwAEw28g.jpg:large

increase texas?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1102610356424400896



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:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

premature ejaculation

:lmao

I forgot about this thread. Lots of premature victory laps by the usual idiots.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1105633183633031168

Oof.

[Winehole23]

old-fangled, like Bernie: war powers of the US Congress

1105973616611606528

[AaronY]

please tell me there is video of this lmao


Liberal Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), a Hillary Clinton supporter who describes herself as a big Sanders fan, struggled when asked ahead of last month’s debate in Milwaukee if she could point to examples of the Vermont senator’s actually influencing the outcome of legislation, other than the much praised bipartisan Veterans Affairs reform he led as chairman of that committee in the Senate.

“Um,” she said, pausing for a full eight seconds while thinking, “I’m sure I could. In terms of the things that he talks the most about, is when he was chair of the Veterans Affairs committee. But he actually compromised on a whole heck of a lot. Back in … it’s not coming to my mind right now.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-record-220508

lmao

[AaronY]

Has anyone told Bernie about https://www.careerexcuse.com/ ?? might help him fill in some of the gaps on his resume

[AaronY]

It was Bernie's turn

1177250292745662466

[TheGreatYacht]

https://youtu.be/b4lMzXRcnuM

[koriwhat]

Has anyone told Bernie about https://www.careerexcuse.com/ ?? might help him fill in some of the gaps on his resume

same with that bum robert beta o'rourke :tu

[Pavlov]

It was Bernie's turn

1177250292745662466Warren is actually a Democrat. Go figure.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fox Host Pretends He Got Shoved At UAW/ Bernie Sanders Protest

https://youtu.be/BhW3HInZ8jc

[rmt]

So, let's take Bezo's wealth at approximately 108.6 billion (don't know if this is pre or post divorce) - let's call it 110 billion to get to Bernie's 8% over the $10 billion.

After year, the remaining $100 billion would be:
1. 92 billion
2. 84.64
3. 77.8688
4. 71.639296
5. 65.9081523
6. 60.6355001
7. 55.7846601
8. 51.3218873
<------ wealth halved
9. 47.2161363

I wonder what liquidating that amount of stock to pay taxes would do to Amazon stock, the entire stock market and all our pensions/401k/investments? Ditto Bill Gates' 105.5B/Microsoft. And I wonder what's gonna happen to all of Bernie's programs when the tax collected gets less and less each year. Let's not even think about the number of people who would be unemployed after the corresponding layoffs at Amazon and Microsoft and their supporting businesses.

[ElNono]

So, let's take Bezo's wealth at approximately 108.6 billion (don't know if this is pre or post divorce) - let's call it 110 billion to get to Bernie's 8% over the $10 billion.

After year, the remaining $100 billion would be:
1. 92 billion
2. 84.64
3. 77.8688
4. 71.639296
5. 65.9081523
6. 60.6355001
7. 55.7846601
8. 51.3218873
<------ wealth halved
9. 47.2161363

I wonder what liquidating that amount of stock to pay taxes would do to Amazon stock, the entire stock market and all our pensions/401k/investments? Ditto Bill Gates' 105.5B/Microsoft. And I wonder what's gonna happen to all of Bernie's programs when the tax collected gets less and less each year. Let's not even think about the number of people who would be unemployed after the corresponding layoffs at Amazon and Microsoft and their supporting businesses.

^ this is a simplistic analysis that has no correlation with the real world. It's based on the notion that Amazon stock value is a static number (and so Bezos' wealth is a static number), which is not the case, at all.

But, besides that, it obviates that there's plenty of 1st world countries that impose a wealth tax (France, Spain, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Italy), another number of them that used to up until not that long ago (Austria, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Luxembourg, Sweden), and apparently they're doing just fine.

Now, I'm mostly pointing out the mistake and playing devil's advocate, this shouldn't be interpreted as a personal endorsement of a wealth tax, or at the very least a wealth tax based on those brackets.

Lastly, let's not forget that the demagogue du jour also was peddling a wealth tax back in the day...

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/09/trump.rich/index.html

[AaronY]

Warren is actually a Democrat. Go figure.
It was his turn Pav.

[AaronY]

clearing the field good now

[TheGreatYacht]

So, let's take Bezo's wealth at approximately 108.6 billion (don't know if this is pre or post divorce) - let's call it 110 billion to get to Bernie's 8% over the $10 billion.

After year, the remaining $100 billion would be:
1. 92 billion
2. 84.64
3. 77.8688
4. 71.639296
5. 65.9081523
6. 60.6355001
7. 55.7846601
8. 51.3218873
<------ wealth halved
9. 47.2161363

I wonder what liquidating that amount of stock to pay taxes would do to Amazon stock, the entire stock market and all our pensions/401k/investments? Ditto Bill Gates' 105.5B/Microsoft. And I wonder what's gonna happen to all of Bernie's programs when the tax collected gets less and less each year. Let's not even think about the number of people who would be unemployed after the corresponding layoffs at Amazon and Microsoft and their supporting businesses.

Taxing the wealthy elite to help the masses trickles up. It's been done before during FDR presidency. The economy boomed and recovered from the great depression.

When Income Was Taxed at 94%: How FDR Tackled Debt and Reckless Republicans
https://flaglerlive.com/26685/gc-fdr-and-taxes/

[rmt]

Taxing the wealthy elite to help the masses trickles up. It's been done before during FDR presidency. The economy boomed and recovered from the great depression.

When Income Was Taxed at 94%: How FDR Tackled Debt and Reckless Republicans
https://flaglerlive.com/26685/gc-fdr-and-taxes/

That is INCOME (which has not yet been taxed) - not WEALTH/ASSETS that has already been taxed (or gone through income tax filing/audit) or is below the inheritance tax threshold. No one has addressed what will happen to Bernie's programs when these billionaires' wealth is halved, quartered, eighted?. Then we go to the millionaires? until we reach where your wealth is? - then it won't seem like such a great idea. In a simplistic analogy, putting one's money under a mattress (sans inflation) would see that money decrease year after year (having done nothing with it [not invest it]) until very little is left.

[rmt]

^ this is a simplistic analysis that has no correlation with the real world. It's based on the notion that Amazon stock value is a static number (and so Bezos' wealth is a static number), which is not the case, at all.

But, besides that, it obviates that there's plenty of 1st world countries that impose a wealth tax (France, Spain, Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Italy), another number of them that used to up until not that long ago (Austria, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Luxembourg, Sweden), and apparently they're doing just fine.

Now, I'm mostly pointing out the mistake and playing devil's advocate, this shouldn't be interpreted as a personal endorsement of a wealth tax, or at the very least a wealth tax based on those brackets.

Lastly, let's not forget that the demagogue du jour also was peddling a wealth tax back in the day...

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/09/trump.rich/index.html

Are you really comparing a ONE TIME tax to one that continues every year so that after 8 years, one's wealth is HALVED and keeps being decreased year after year into eternity?

[rmt]

I hope no one thinks that Bezo has $8 billion in cash lying around to pay this tax or that he would take this lying down or that it wouldn't be tied up in court/challenged or whatever it is people do when each side has a different idea of what an asset is worth. I'm guessing like when people challenge their property tax assessment - I can see Bezo's tax lawyers vs IRS.

[rmt]

And I AM SURE with all of Bernie's free this and that, people from all over the world will be doing EVERYTHING they can to come/stay here. We'll see how long you all can maintain your standard of living with the floodgates open.

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1102610356424400896



:lmao:lmao:lmao



























































:lmao

:lol

Isn't that the same dude who embarrassed Pocahontas? I don't know who he is or why he has a show but woke whitey's need to stay away.

[ElNono]

Are you really comparing a ONE TIME tax to one that continues every year so that after 8 years, one's wealth is HALVED and keeps being decreased year after year into eternity?

So, wait, what you're saying is that you don't actually oppose a wealth tax, and you don't really care about the alleged stock crash or the people losing their jobs due to it. Okay.

[rmt]

So, wait, what you're saying is that you don't actually oppose a wealth tax, and you don't really care about the alleged stock crash or the people losing their jobs due to it. Okay.

I have been quite clear where I stand on this wealth tax. There is a much less degree of damage for a one-time tax as opposed to it being applied every year - maybe you don't see the difference.

[TheGreatYacht]

MSNBC: All Bernie Voters Are Sexists! Not Kidding.

https://youtu.be/9l-DnyNjL08

[ElNono]

I have been quite clear where I stand on this wealth tax. There is a much less degree of damage for a one-time tax as opposed to it being applied every year - maybe you don't see the difference.

I do see the difference, and stated as much on my first response with regards to brackets. However, even being a one time hit, it still would theoretically run into a number of the same issues you pointed out.

Obviously, the main difference is Bernie actually believes (correctly or not) in what he's preaching, whereas the other phony does not.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Explains Why Impeachment Is Bad Strategy w/Aaron Mate’

https://youtu.be/0o0_GW0593o

[TheGreatYacht]

Smug Billionaire Attacks Bernie With The Intellect Of A Gnat

https://youtu.be/liO9T449FBw

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Bulldozes Billionaires, Shifts Overton Window

https://youtu.be/l6fy-DTalb4

[DMC]

Bernie Bulldozes Billionaires, Shifts Overton Window

https://youtu.be/l6fy-DTalb4

Welcome to the ignore list you are in very exclusive territory.

[TheGreatYacht]

Welcome to the ignore list you are in very exclusive territory.

Damn...what a snowflake

[koriwhat]

Bernie Bulldozes Billionaires, Shifts Overton Window

https://youtu.be/l6fy-DTalb4

you love that he's taking on billionaires huh but what about them other richers like the millionaires? oh wait... my bad 2facebernout!

[AaronY]

you love that he's taking on billionaires huh but what about them other richers like the millionaires? oh wait... my bad 2facebernout!
thats telling em

[koriwhat]

thats telling em

i'm just here waiting on his own "Is Doing Awesome Thread" thread to be created hopefully soon. :tu

[AaronY]

TOTALLY NOT A CULT.

1189892911745445888

this is some scientology level sounding shit

[AaronY]

yeaaahhhh man.....#notacult

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIOUBlgWkAMeGIf?format=jpg&name=medium

[AaronY]

they need a ben garrison

[Reck]

TOTALLY NOT A CULT.

1189892911745445888

this is some scientology level sounding shit

Damn let's pray for Bernie so he doesn't die any time soon. It'll be mass suicide for them if he does.

[AaronY]

Damn let's pray for Bernie so he doesn't die any time soon. It'll be mass suicide for them if he does.

Tell me that doesn't sound like how Squeaky Fromme or whoever would talk about Charles Manson

[boutons_deux]

Bernie, to lesser degree Liz, doesn't have a chance against BigFinance and BigHealthCare divisions of the oligarchy, both will spend $100Ms to defeat them.

and DNC/Clintonites won't support them because they are truly progressive.

[AaronY]

Bernie, to lesser degree Liz, doesn't have a chance against BigFinance and BigHealthCare divisions of the oligarchy, both will spend $100Ms to defeat them.
Knew there were something I liked about Bigfinance

[TheGreatYacht]

THROWBACK: Chomsky On Bernie Sanders

https://youtu.be/x_TKO7HUfZY

[TheGreatYacht]

Obama Would've Tried To Stop A Runaway Bernie Primary Win

https://youtu.be/2hWLHMRTjGg

[TheGreatYacht]

Hillary Clinton Smears Bernie On Howard Stern's Show

https://youtu.be/QjK8Ghxi5Zk

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Blasts Voter Purge By GOP

https://youtu.be/kmWgZUsMbWU

[AaronY]

NOT A CULT

1209980148893790208

[AaronY]

#joebarabbasbiden2020

[DMC]

NOT A CULT

1209980148893790208

So he's Christian Bale?

[TheGreatYacht]

NOT A CULT

1209980148893790208

One would think that Christians who BELIEVE in the teachings of Jesus would LOVE Bernie Sanders :lol

Just shows how conservative Christians don't believe in any of Jesus teachings :rollin

Christian pastor: "Abortion is murder. Vote Republican!"

Evangelical pastor: "The Jews are God's chosen people. Support and defend Israel no matter what!"

The United States of Israel :lmao

[AaronY]

See Jesus was smarter than Bernie tho..

..can't be a deadbeat dad if you ain't got no kids

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4R7-x8VMAE9pQW.jpg

[Reck]

See Jesus was smarter than Bernie tho..

..can't be a deadbeat dad if you ain't got no kids



That was cold. Bernie is an old schooler.

Let his only son out to dry when he ran for a house seat. Probably wins it with daddy's endorsement but stroker Ace said sorry son.

[Spurtacular]

That was cold. Bernie is an old schooler.

Let his only son out to dry when he ran for a house seat. Probably wins it with daddy's endorsement but stroker Ace said sorry son.

He took in less than two percent of the vote.

Right again, tranny.

[Spurtacular]

The guy who did obliterate Sanders:

http://harvardpolitics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/chris-pappas-picture.jpg

:lmao Like cuck, like son.

[AaronY]

That was cold. Bernie is an old schooler.

Let his only son out to dry when he ran for a house seat. Probably wins it with daddy's endorsement but stroker Ace said sorry son.
I was more talking about how Susan Mott had to go on welfare in 1974 since Bernie was too busy polling at 4% as a Socialist to get a job tbh lol

"In 1974, Levi Sanders' mother, Susan Mott, is quoted in Burlington Free Press saying, "she is refused apartments because she is on welfare and has one child"

Not even 100% sure it's true but I'll be honest his followers are so nauseating I hope it is lol

[AaronY]

Yeah but it's also hilarious how Bernie wouldn't endorse his own son too

[AaronY]

For those who missed it Bernie's totally normal followers spent Christmas talking about how Bernie was literally Jesus in the flesh due to Medicare for all, $15, etc.

[AaronY]

Personally, Im just glad those awful Democrats who dont care about poor people came up with food stamps and welfare or else Bernie's son would have died for his father's sins

[TheGreatYacht]

Jimmy Dore: How Bernie should have handled Cenk Uygur

https://youtu.be/LWeiZ9kxPH0

[ElNono]

Almost wishing Bernie wins just to see AaronY meltdown... :lol

[spurraider21]

Almost wishing Bernie wins just to see AaronY (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732) meltdown... :lol
rose usa

[TheGreatYacht]

Almost wishing Bernie wins just to see AaronY meltdown... :lol

What is his beef with Bernie? Is AaronY one of them #stillwithher? Is he mad cuz progressives didn't go vote for Killary Clinton in 2016?

[boutons_deux]

I read that some Dem establishment mucky mucks are thinking B could be the one.

A Sanders/Warren WH would make the oligarchy shit their drawers (but only if Dems also get Senate since Repug Senate whores would continue to obstruct everything Dem to protect the oligarchy's status quo).

[ElNono]

What is his beef with Bernie? Is AaronY one of them #stillwithher? Is he mad cuz progressives didn't go vote for Killary Clinton in 2016?

There’s a lot of possible reasons. He could be socially progressive but economically conservative. He could simply think Bernie is unelectable, and doesn’t want 4 more years of orange man.

Lots of legit reasons to think Bernie is just not the right candidate.

[AaronY]

Almost wishing Bernie wins just to see AaronY (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732) meltdown... :lol
On the flip side watching twitter the day Bernie is mathematically eliminated might possibly be one of the happiest days of my online life tbh

[Winehole23]

On the flip side watching twitter the day Bernie is mathematically eliminated might possibly be one of the happiest days of my online life tbhIn the heaven described by Tertullian, hell is adjacent, separated by a low wall whereon random angels might consider the torments of the damned before them in the neighbor's yard, so to speak.

[AaronY]

it puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again

1210664908720934912

[Winehole23]

Are you sure you understand Matt Breunig?

Notorious troll, mean as a snake looks. Snakes are actually pretty cool for the most part.

[Winehole23]

Oh, you're a Norman Ornstein stan.


Wasn't he at the AEI a minute ago, or something like that?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bernie, Biden would be the same thing

Either way the first thing passed is likely cap and trade limiting personal use of electricity in homes

[AaronY]

Buddy, I have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about with either of these posts below but I just want you to know that Bernie sucks in case I haven't made that clear yet.


In the heaven described by Tertullian, hell is adjacent, separated by a low wall whereon random angels might consider the torments of the damned before them in the neighbor's yard, so to speak.


Oh, you're a Norman Ornstein stan.


Wasn't he at the AEI a minute ago, or something like that?

[Reck]

That was hard to follow, indeed.

[Will Hunting]

it puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again

1210664908720934912
25% of Hillary’s 2008 primary voters voted for McCain in the general. That’s simply the norm.

Im not trying to argue that the Bernie or bust crowd isn’t retarded (particularly their new stuff about demonizing an extremely popular ex president in Obama), but the narrative that Bernie Bros screwed Hillary or rebeled against the Democrats in some massive way is simply wrong. General election candidates usually lose around 25% of their primary opponent’s voters. If your candidacy is dependent on being to get 95% of your primary opponents supporters simply because you’re both from the same party it means you’re running a shitty campaign and aren’t doing enough to turn out the voters who don’t give enough of a shit to vote in the primaries.

[koriwhat]

i'm throwing a party when both bernie and hillary finally kick the can.

[AaronY]

25% of Hillary’s 2008 primary voters voted for McCain in the general. That’s simply the norm.

Im not trying to argue that the Bernie or bust crowd isn’t retarded (particularly their new stuff about demonizing an extremely popular ex president in Obama), but the narrative that Bernie Bros screwed Hillary or rebeled against the Democrats in some massive way is simply wrong. General election candidates usually lose around 25% of their primary opponent’s voters. If your candidacy is dependent on being to get 95% of your primary opponents supporters simply because you’re both from the same party it means you’re running a shitty campaign and aren’t doing enough to turn out the voters who don’t give enough of a shit to vote in the primaries.
Not making excuses for Hillary, who embarrassingly enough I actually support and don't think is a bad person, just pointing out the toxic shitheads who are almost gloating about helping Trump win and threatening to hold the party hostage if Bernie doesnt win. There is a lot of them on rose twitter.

I don't really think Hillary ran a bad campaign she just doesn't have much charisma or inspirational ability. There were studies showing she did worse in some areas the more she campaigned there. Every single campaign faces smears and disinformation bullshit or scandals. If you follow politics or the Democrat campaigns of the last 40 years (like most of these Bernie supporters have never done because many are in their early 20s and think any smear or negative info against Bernie is some shocking new kind of thing) all of these guys haved face both smears and scandals.

Bill if you watch the PBS Frontline series was dogged in sex scandals starting in 1991 and throughout all of 1992 iirc and was accused of murdering Vince Foster. Obama had the Jeremiah Walker thing which was a big deal but they had shitloads of charisma and could cut through it (Obama disowned Walker and gave one insanely awesome speech afterward and no one gave a shit). I mean it is not an excuse to say 1992 Bill Clinton and 2008 Barack Obama were more handsome, charismatic, and inspirational than Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis. You sound retarded if you dont admit it.

[AaronY]

Bernie supporters "no one has faced this kind of negative press and smears ever!!""


Also Bernie people "im 12 and what is this?"

https://i.imgur.com/C5rpyY7.png

[AaronY]

i'm throwing a party when both bernie and hillary finally kick the can.
Oh, ok.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not making excuses for Hillary, who embarrassingly enough I actually support and don't think is a bad person, just pointing out the toxic shitheads who are almost gloating about helping Trump win and threatening to hold the party hostage if Bernie doesnt win. There is a lot of them on rose twitter.

I don't really think Hillary ran a bad campaign she just doesn't have much charisma or inspirational ability. There were studies showing she did worse in some areas the more she campaigned there. Every single campaign faces smears and disinformation bullshit or scandals. If you follow politics or the Democrat campaigns of the last 40 years (like most of these Bernie supporters have never done because many are in their early 20s and think any smear or negative info against Bernie is some shocking new kind of thing) all of these guys haved face both smears and scandals.

Bill if you watch the PBS Frontline series was dogged in sex scandals starting in 1991 and throughout all of 1992 iirc and was accused of murdering Vince Foster. Obama had the Jeremiah Walker thing which was a big deal but they had shitloads of charisma and could cut through it (Obama disowned Walker and gave one insanely awesome speech afterward and no one gave a shit). I mean it is not an excuse to say 1992 Bill Clinton and 2008 Barack Obama were more handsome, charismatic, and inspirational than Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis. You sound retarded if you dont admit it.

#StillWithHer :lmao

If Bernie doesn't win the primaries then Trump 2020!

[Will Hunting]

Not making excuses for Hillary, who embarrassingly enough I actually support and don't think is a bad person, just pointing out the toxic shitheads who are almost gloating about helping Trump win and threatening to hold the party hostage if Bernie doesnt win. There is a lot of them on rose twitter.

I don't really think Hillary ran a bad campaign she just doesn't have much charisma or inspirational ability. There were studies showing she did worse in some areas the more she campaigned there. Every single campaign faces smears and disinformation bullshit or scandals. If you follow politics or the Democrat campaigns of the last 40 years (like most of these Bernie supporters have never done because many are in their early 20s and think any smear or negative info against Bernie is some shocking new kind of thing) all of these guys haved face both smears and scandals.

Bill if you watch the PBS Frontline series was dogged in sex scandals starting in 1991 and throughout all of 1992 iirc and was accused of murdering Vince Foster. Obama had the Jeremiah Walker thing which was a big deal but they had shitloads of charisma and could cut through it (Obama disowned Walker and gave one insanely awesome speech afterward and no one gave a shit). I mean it is not an excuse to say 1992 Bill Clinton and 2008 Barack Obama were more handsome, charismatic, and inspirational than Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis. You sound retarded if you dont admit it.
I just think fringe supporters who are zealots for a primary candidate threatening to play spoiler has always been part of the process, the only difference now is that you have Hillary/MSNBC constantly bitching about them as the reason for 2016 and crying about how they :cry better not do it again :cry, when all that does is put wind in their sails.

More than whether or not the candidate who ultimately wins is moderate / far left, I still think the bigger problem is Democrats not being as willing to fight dirty and look for every edge possible. They don’t have any killer instinct, they just assume that since Republican policies hurt most Americans that voters will do the smart thing and don’t realize how many people fall under votingrepublican.jpeg. Winning is a lot harder if the average urban Democratic voter has to wait in line for 3 hours when voting is practically a holiday in rural areas where there’s no lines and the process take 10 minutes. In swing states like Pennsylvania that have a Democratic Governor they should be trying to suppress the vote in Republican areas as much as humanly possible, and come 2021 they should go nuts gerrymandering where they can.

[Winehole23]

i'm throwing a party when both bernie and hillary finally kick the can.Among my Irish brethren, such parties are called wakes, and heavy drinking is customary.



PHOTO: Aleksandr Skrypko / Shutterstock

[Winehole23]

Buddy, I have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about with either of these posts below but I just want you to know that Bernie sucks in case I haven't made that clear yet.Loud and clear on the 2nd place guy. If he manages to strings together a few primary wins early he could be tough to beat.

Biden is weaker than he looks.

[koriwhat]

Among my Irish brethren, such parties are called wakes, and heavy drinking is customary.



PHOTO: Aleksandr Skrypko / Shutterstock



i'm no irish man nor a drinker so i'll literally be celebrating the evil dying with those 2 demons from hell! :tu

[boutons_deux]

DEMOCRATIC INSIDERS ARE TAKING BERNIE 2020 “VERY SERIOUSLY”

As Warren’s fundraising falters, party elite are warming to the progressive senator.

Remarkably, Sanders not only pulled through, but his campaign has thrived in the months since.

In polls, Sanders has leapfrogged over Elizabeth Warren, who at one time outstripped him, and

currently sits second to Joe Biden in national polls (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html).

While he remains a distant third in South Carolina (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html), :lol that's RACIST SC

he’s leading in the early primary state of New Hampshire (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html) and

is currently a close second to Pete Buttigieg in Iowa (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-6731.html),

Sanders appears to have captured the interested of the Democratic establishment, where he played antagonist (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/01/20/bernie-sanders-is-attacking-the-establishment-hes-only-half-right/) in 2016.

One reason for the fresh look at Sanders, sources told the outlet, is Warren’s plight.

Though Sanders entered the 2020 race with a massive progressive movement behind him,

Warren seemed to co-opt some of that momentum, rising steadily in polling over the summer and into the fall.

As Sanders has risen, however, Warren has faltered

Where she was once on par with Biden, even outpacing him in some polling, she’s now well behind him once again.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/bernie-sanders-could-win-2020-nomination?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_Hive_123019&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_campaign=VF_Hive_123019&utm_term=VYF_Hive

[AaronY]

currently sits second to Joe Biden in national polls (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html).

While he remains a distant third in South Carolina (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-6824.html), :lol that's RACIST SC


Huh? Biden is winning SC as it's like 30% black and he has a 58 to 12 lead over the next competitor or something among blacks there iirc

[AaronY]

Not to worry rose Twitter is on the case by working to see if they can cancel Obama in time for the 2020 primaries to "help" Sanders. Man those guys are good at politics

[Winehole23]

Not making excuses for Hillary, who embarrassingly enough I actually support and don't think is a bad person, just pointing out the toxic shitheads who are almost gloating about helping Trump win and threatening to hold the party hostage if Bernie doesnt win. There is a lot of them on rose twitter.

I don't really think Hillary ran a bad campaign she just doesn't have much charisma or inspirational ability. There were studies showing she did worse in some areas the more she campaigned there. Every single campaign faces smears and disinformation bullshit or scandals. If you follow politics or the Democrat campaigns of the last 40 years (like most of these Bernie supporters have never done because many are in their early 20s and think any smear or negative info against Bernie is some shocking new kind of thing) all of these guys haved face both smears and scandals.

Bill if you watch the PBS Frontline series was dogged in sex scandals starting in 1991 and throughout all of 1992 iirc and was accused of murdering Vince Foster. Obama had the Jeremiah Walker thing which was a big deal but they had shitloads of charisma and could cut through it (Obama disowned Walker and gave one insanely awesome speech afterward and no one gave a shit). I mean it is not an excuse to say 1992 Bill Clinton and 2008 Barack Obama were more handsome, charismatic, and inspirational than Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis. You sound retarded if you dont admit it.thanks for sharing your political fanfic, that's a weird beauty contest!

:tu

[AaronY]

thanks for sharing your political fanfic, that's a weird beauty contest!

:tu
It's reality my man lol. I like how a legit 80-85% of progressivism is being mad about the fact that reality exists lmao. There's been multiple studies showing that parents prefer their good looking kids to their ugly or less attractive kids. FUCKING PARENTS my man. How is it you guys are so bad at everything?

[AaronY]

Going further, if AOC was 200 lbs with an underbite and bad teeth she would be a nobody

Also, you can have different kinds of charisma..Trump is charismatic I guess. Certainly able to inspire his followers. Those motherfuckers literally would not care if he shot someone in fifth ave like he says. you need that to get by as you will always face a smear machine and controversies. Can be looks but also speaking ability etc. etc.

[Will Hunting]

Going further, if AOC was 200 lbs with an underbite and bad teeth she would be a nobody.
According to all the incels on this site who claim she’s ugly she already is :lol

[AaronY]

According to all the incels on this site who claim she’s ugly she already is :lol
That Omar is pretty good looking tbh. I always wonder what she looks like without that stupid burka

[AaronY]

"How the Nixon-Kennedy Debate Changed the World"


As the story goes, those who listened to the debate on the radio thought Nixon had won. But those listeners were in the minority. By 1960, 88% of American households had televisions — up from just 11% the decade before. The number of viewers who tuned in to the debate has been estimated as high as 74 million, by the Nielsen of the day, Broadcast Magazine. Those that watched the debate on TV thought Kennedy was the clear winner. Many say Kennedy won the election that night. Sorensen says the Kennedy team didn't realize what a game changer the debate was until the following day at a campaign event in Ohio. "The crowds for his motorcade were much larger than they'd ever been," he says. "That's when we knew that, if nothing else, Kennedy had firmed up support for himself in the Democratic party."

...Even Kennedy acknowledged the medium's role in his victory. On November 12, 1960, four days after winning the election by a narrow margin, he said, "It was the TV more than anything else that turned the tide.

...Up to that point, politics had not really been played out on television. "It was very much an entertainment medium," says Schroeder. "It wasn't a place for serious discourse." The next televised presidential debate wouldn't take place for 16 years, largely because candidates became wary of their influence. Lyndon B. Johnson was too intimidated by the medium to take on Barry Goldwater in 1964, and Nixon, having been burned before, refused to debate on TV in both 1968 and 1972.

JFK destroyed Nixon so much with his charm, good looks, and charisma people were afraid to go on TV for almost 20 years

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2021078,00.html

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Gets Less MSNBC Coverage Than Klobuchar Despite Polling 7x Higher

https://youtu.be/m9tnDuqJu2o

[Spurtacular]

Not making excuses for Hillary, who embarrassingly enough I actually support and don't think is a bad person

:lmao That is embarrassing, SnitchY.

[Spurtacular]

Bernie Gets Less MSNBC Coverage Than Klobuchar Despite Polling 7x Higher

https://youtu.be/m9tnDuqJu2o

Chumpettes not bothered.

[Spurtacular]

Bernie Gets Less MSNBC Coverage Than Klobuchar Despite Polling 7x Higher

https://youtu.be/m9tnDuqJu2o

This is the Ron Paul treatment. I watched a great video on this; but I don't know the name of it now. But he got a laughable amount of coverage from Fox News, Etc. despite being a front runner, but the establishment was in it for Mitt, other puppets. This video shows the starting position though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsanMcncZ84

[TheGreatYacht]

This is the Ron Paul treatment. I watched a great video on this; but I don't know the name of it now. But he got a laughable amount of coverage from Fox News, Etc. despite being a front runner, but the establishment was in it for Mitt, other puppets. This video shows the starting position though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsanMcncZ84

Ron Paul got screwed by the GOP establishment. If I were old enough to vote back then I would have voted for him.

[Isitjustme?]

:lmao That is embarrassing, SnitchY.

How is that guy a snitch?

[boutons_deux]

Texas Ron Paul is a racist with policies too fringe for GOP and the establishment.

Bernie, Liz, Medicare for All, all are getting the same treatment from the for-profit establishment.

[koriwhat]

That Omar is pretty good looking tbh. I always wonder what she looks like without that stupid burka

she wears it to hide her horrible hairline that starts mid dome.

[Trill Clinton]

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[boutons_deux]

Biden only $23M in 4th qtr

But Trash will have many $100Ms directly (not his own money, that was another 2015 LIE), then $1B+ from all the corrupt, dark money from BigFinance, BigOil, etc that he has enriched with drilling leases and tax cuts.

Wah Keen did so badly he had dropped out.

[spurraider21]

That Omar is pretty good looking tbh. I always wonder what she looks like without that stupid burka
she doesnt wear a burka

[ChumpDumper]

1212692306987376640


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[Trill Clinton]

Biden only $23M in 4th qtr

But Trash will many $100Ms directly, then $1B+ from all the corrupt, dark money from BigFinance, BigOil, etc that he has enriched with drilling leases and tax cuts.

Wah Keen did so badly he had dropped out.


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[spurraider21]

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thats monstrous tbh... with warren's campaign supposedly pretty far behind and making a late push just to try to hit 20 mil, that gap cant be ignored, combined with her falling poll numbers

[Trill Clinton]

thats monstrous tbh... with warren's campaign supposedly pretty far behind and making a late push just to try to hit 20 mil, that gap cant be ignored, combined with her falling poll numbers

Yup. Sad too, I was pulling for her.

[boutons_deux]

Yup. Sad too, I was pulling for her.

BigFinance would have killed Liz.

Her CFPB cost them $11B+ before the Repugs gutted it, and BigFinance intends to block Liz even it takes $Bs.

They already blocked her from running CFPB, which she created.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1212963773310554117

[TheGreatYacht]

Tucker's Impossibly Smug Guest Goes After Bernie & AOC Supporters

https://youtu.be/y8f6DTsSJ0A

[AaronY]

What are the chances Bernie's grassroots supporters are even a strength and not a detriment at this point?

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Its got to be around 50/50 they are even helping vs hurting here. I mean we are dealing with complete fucktards for sure.

[AaronY]

Anyway, only a couple weeks to go till Iowa these Bernie Bros better hurry they gonna get Obama cancelled in time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENbKNKbXUAAO0o2?format=jpg&name=large

[AaronY]

btw as to Shaun King a lot of the black people I follow on twitter call him "talcum X" and I have to say that is an insanely good nickname :lol

https://twitter.com/search?q=talcum%20X&src=typed_query

[Winehole23]

According to the most recent CBS poll, Bernie Sanders leads in Iowa and NH.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/bernie-sanders-starts-2020-in-strong-position-in-iowa-new-hampshire-cbs-news-battleground-tracker-poll/

[DMC]

Bernie cannot win.

[Winehole23]

Bernie cannot win.
People said the same about DJT. They were wrong, I was one of them.

[DMC]

People said the same about DJT. They were wrong, I was one of them.

DJT didn't allow himself to be railroaded during the prior election by his own fucking committee.

[boutons_deux]

Trash was at least a Repug, and the oligarchy knew he was on their side, esp for tax cuts.

otoh, both Bernie and Liz are way too progressive, so both the oligarchy and $Dems will block them.

iow, voting doesn't matter when voting against the oligarchy and fully whored political establishment.

[Winehole23]

DJT didn't allow himself to be railroaded during the prior election by his own fucking committee.Not sure how that relates to his electability this time around.

You seem kind of emotional about this, to you have a rational or fact based case to make?

[koriwhat]

According to the most recent CBS poll, Bernie Sanders leads in Iowa and NH.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/bernie-sanders-starts-2020-in-strong-position-in-iowa-new-hampshire-cbs-news-battleground-tracker-poll/

well he is a white boy who's trying so hard not to be a white boy. the name sticks because it's true.

[Reck]

According to the most recent CBS poll, Bernie Sanders leads in Iowa and NH.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/bernie-sanders-starts-2020-in-strong-position-in-iowa-new-hampshire-cbs-news-battleground-tracker-poll/

Can hardly call that leading when it’s a 3-way tie.

About a month ago I would have said Iowa was going to be down to Bernie and Warren but she’s nowhere these days. What a time to pull a disappearing act.

Now I’m thinking it’s Bernie and Biden. That poll also says whose most likely to beat Trump. 36% says Biden and 33% says Bernie.

[DMC]

Not sure how that relates to his electability this time around.

You seem kind of emotional about this, to you have a rational or fact based case to make?

It's rational that people who voted in the last election see Bernie as a pushover.

If you get behind this guy, who's to say he doesn't go ass up for Biden if the DNC says so?

Hey, stop funding Bernie, fund Biden, friend to the Obamas and Clintons,

[Winehole23]

Bernie has won 11 federal elections and is pretty good at raising money -- 2nd place only to DJT.

You might be underrating his chances.

[boutons_deux]

Bernie has won 11 federal elections and is pretty good at raising money -- 2nd place only to DJT.

You might be underrating his chances.

The Dem establishment would rather lose to Trash again, rather than win with Bernie and his coattail winners who would dump Pelosi, Schumer, and the Dem establishment out of their jobs for a progressive team.

[Reck]

Bernie has won 11 federal elections and is pretty good at raising money -- 2nd place only to DJT.

You might be underrating his chances.

Theres no denying he’s peaking at the right time.

That said, money these days mean nothing.

[Spurtacular]

Bernie has won 11 federal elections and is pretty good at raising money -- 2nd place only to DJT.

You might be underrating his chances.

Closet Republican Reck is a NeverBernie person, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Theres no denying he’s peaking at the right time.

That said, money these days mean nothing.Biden has yet to win a single delegate in three establishment-backed runs for President. Bernie got 1800 delegates the hard way in 2016 -- with the DNC screwing him wherever it could.

[DMC]

Bernie will have a hard time expanding his base though.

[Winehole23]

Bernie will have a hard time expanding his base though.Eh, we'll see.

[Reck]

Closet Republican Reck is a NeverBernie person, tbh.

Where do you get this shit from?

[Spurtacular]

Where do you get this shit from?

So, you want Bernie nowadays?

[Reck]

So, you want Bernie nowadays?

This is the problem with you cult following freak shows. Just because republicans are drone like without critical thinking following what dear leader tells them to do and think doesn’t mean the other side is doing the same.

I don’t need to like him to be a Democrat (ironic since he doesn’t even call himself one)

[TheGreatYacht]

So, you want Bernie nowadays?

AaronY and Reck hate Bernie cuz his supporters did not blindly go along w Hillary. #StillWithHer

They think BernieBros cost Hillary the election :lol

[Reck]

AaronY and Reck hate Bernie cuz his supporters did not blindly go along w Hillary. #StillWithHer

They think BernieBros cost Hillary the election :lol

Close but not really.

I like Bernie on a personal level but think most of his policies are non starters.

:lol To think I’m petty enough to dislike someone based on their retarded supporters. You act like little bitches.

:lol Throwing tantrums because your dude didn’t win.
:lmao Voting for Trump at all over the butthurt.

You're not gonna win this one, son.

[spurraider21]

Closet Republican Reck is a NeverBernie person, tbh.


So, you want Bernie nowadays?
so you either want bernie nowadays or you're a neverbernie person? no middle ground?

:lol

[Spurtacular]

so you either want bernie nowadays or you're a neverbernie person? no middle ground?

:lol

Ask Wreck to rank the Dem candidates for you.

[Quadzilla99]

Biden has yet to win a single delegate in three establishment-backed runs for President. Bernie got 1800 delegates the hard way in 2016 -- with the DNC screwing him wherever it could.

Biden would have done very well in 2016 tbh

[Quadzilla99]

As a matter of fact since a ton of Bernie votes were just anti-Hillary votes I think if Biden ran in 2016 as an incumbent VP Bernie would have been relegated to a very distant third.

[ElNono]

As a matter of fact since a ton of Bernie votes were just anti-Hillary votes I think if Biden ran in 2016 as an incumbent VP Bernie would have been relegated to a very distant third.

Bernie voters as just as much anti-Hillary as they are anti-Biden. Especially since the DNC would've likely gone to bat for Biden in that case, much like they did with Shillary.

[Quadzilla99]

Bernie voters as just as much anti-Hillary as they are anti-Biden. Especially since the DNC would've likely gone to bat for Biden in that case, much like they did with Shillary.

I honestly think Bernie would have been polling at like 10% if Biden ran in 2016. I doubt he would win a single state except maybe Vermont.

[Winehole23]

I honestly think Bernie would have been polling at like 10% if Biden ran in 2016. I doubt he would win a single state except maybe Vermont.Speaks to the weakness of HRC. DNC should have known she had a glass jaw after 2008.

[boutons_deux]

Speaks to the weakness of HRC. DNC should have known she had a glass jaw after 2008.

much of the "weakness" of HRC was created by the Repugs/VRWC attacking and slandering the Clintons since the early 1990s.

McCarthy admitted that the 8 Benghazi hearings were only to keep Hillary in a slandering spotlight.

aka, If Repugs/Trash repeat smokey lies loud enough and long enough, some people, predisposed to ignorance, stupidity, disaffection, begin to believe there must be fire under the smoke. eg, koritwat

[AaronY]

What are the chances Bernie's grassroots supporters are even a strength and not a detriment at this point?

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Its got to be around 50/50 they are even helping vs hurting here. I mean we are dealing with complete fucktards for sure.
I don't really follow the Warrenverse Twitter but apparently these little shits attack and harrass Warren supporters too

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Look at those replies lmao

[boutons_deux]

Proof Bernie Sanders Has the Billionaire Class’ Attention

Billionaire Jeff Gundlach told (https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/stock-market-news-today-010820/h_6477f43492bd21a237e0db66e1f7a302) fellow wealthy investors late Tuesday that Sen. Bernie Sanders is the “odds-on favorite” to win the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination—and warned the senator’s potential general election victory could pose a serious threat to Wall Street profits.
“Bernie is stronger than people think,”

said Sanders’ possible win over Trump in November represents the “biggest risk” to financial markets.

“If people get more worried about Bernie Sanders and they start to price in his spending programs, then you could really start to see trouble in both [long-term Treasury] bonds and stocks, which could really be on a rough ride.”

the Democratic establishment is reportedly growing increasingly concerned (https://apnews.com/7b5a54663fef97c7be2b6cfdc814158b) about the prospect of a Sanders nomination

as the Vermont senator outraises (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/02/sanders-announces-staggering-345-million-fourth-quarter-haul-average-donation-just) his primary opponents and gains ground in early-state polls (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/05/poll-shows-sanders-leading-new-hampshire-tied-first-iowa-less-month-first-2020).

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/proof-bernie-sanders-has-the-billionaire-class-attention/ (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/proof-bernie-sanders-has-the-billionaire-class-attention/)

All BigFinance has to do is spend enough to maintain a Repug whores majority in the Senate to block any tax increases.

But BigFinance couldn't stop President Bernie's rule making in Exec branch that would curb BigFinane's abuse and corruption.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fox Business Bravely Calls Out Teachers For Donating To Bernie

https://youtu.be/rmtOxxNL2zo

[AaronY]

Proof Bernie Sanders Has the Billionaire Class’ Attention

Billionaire Jeff Gundlach told (https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/stock-market-news-today-010820/h_6477f43492bd21a237e0db66e1f7a302) fellow wealthy investors late Tuesday that Sen. Bernie Sanders is the “odds-on favorite” to win the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination—and warned the senator’s potential general election victory could pose a serious threat to Wall Street profits.
“Bernie is stronger than people think,”

said Sanders’ possible win over Trump in November represents the “biggest risk” to financial markets.

“If people get more worried about Bernie Sanders and they start to price in his spending programs, then you could really start to see trouble in both [long-term Treasury] bonds and stocks, which could really be on a rough ride.”

the Democratic establishment is reportedly growing increasingly concerned (https://apnews.com/7b5a54663fef97c7be2b6cfdc814158b) about the prospect of a Sanders nomination

as the Vermont senator outraises (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/02/sanders-announces-staggering-345-million-fourth-quarter-haul-average-donation-just) his primary opponents and gains ground in early-state polls (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/05/poll-shows-sanders-leading-new-hampshire-tied-first-iowa-less-month-first-2020).

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/proof-bernie-sanders-has-the-billionaire-class-attention/ (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/proof-bernie-sanders-has-the-billionaire-class-attention/)

All BigFinance has to do is spend enough to maintain a Repug whores majority in the Senate to block any tax increases.

But BigFinance couldn't stop President Bernie's rule making in Exec branch that would curb BigFinane's abuse and corruption.



Take a few deep breaths boutons, you little commie

[AaronY]

Everyday online is like the battle of Stalingrad with this guy lol

[koriwhat]

Take a few deep breaths boutons, you little commie

Haha truth!

[AaronY]

How Alex Jonesy do you think this cult will get if Biden wins Iowa and NH and Bernie goes down in flames?

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[Reck]

How Alex Jonesy do you think this cult will get if Biden wins Iowa and NH and Bernie goes down in flames?

1217128972791820289

:lol The great yatch


Never seen geek this out of sorts before.

[AaronY]

:lol The great yatch


Never seen geek this out of sorts before.


The rose Twitter people I follow would like us all to know that

A) Mayor Pete's college trip to Africa was definitely a secret CIA mission and that he is "The McKinsey Candidate"

and

B) that Liz Warren's mildly negative pushback against Bernie is the worst, most deranged and unbelievable false smear campaign imaginable

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol The great yatch


Never seen geek this out of sorts before.

Ma niqa Kyle Kulinski of Secular Talk is WOKE. He knows the deal :tu

He cofounded the Justice Democrats. Thanks to him we have "The Squad."

[AaronY]

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Feels good mayne

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Feels good mayne
im getting to that point with him. my policy is to put people on ignore not when i disagree with them, but when their posting/spamming makes scrolling through the forum unbearable. he's definitely near that point

[TheGreatYacht]

TGY stop hating on Jews :cry

[spurraider21]

so its jews now, not zionists

:lol just drop the charade

[TheGreatYacht]

so its jews now, not zionists

:lol just drop the charade

I'm just quoting you and using your false accusations :tu

[AaronY]

im getting to that point with him. my policy is to put people on ignore not when i disagree with them, but when their posting/spamming makes scrolling through the forum unbearable. he's definitely near that point
I did it when he started tagging me in all his videos on Israel

[spurraider21]

I did it when he started tagging me in all his videos on Israel
but dont you still get notifications from that crap?

[Winehole23]

I'm just quoting you and using your false accusations :tunah, he's right. you hide yourself poorly.

[AaronY]

but dont you still get notifications from that crap?
Yeah, its fucking annoying. I didnt know the notifications thing still did that as i never used ignore before

[ChumpDumper]

How Alex Jonesy do you think this cult will get if Biden wins Iowa and NH and Bernie goes down in flames?

1217128972791820289:lol If he knows who they are, just point them out.

[spurraider21]

:lol If he knows who they are, just point them out.
i dont think he claims to know who they are. isnt that the whole point of moles?

[Reck]

Yeah, its fucking annoying. I didnt know the notifications thing still did that as i never used ignore before

Now you know how I feel when derp had his obessesion with me. Had to turn quotes off. The ignore feature is useless because all it does is hide the post and you still see a "this post is hidden" taking up space. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

i dont think he claims to know who they are. isnt that the whole point of moles?How does he know they are there?

[spurraider21]

How does he know they are there?
oh. he's talking out of his ass and is a paranoid bernie supporter.

[ChumpDumper]

oh. he's talking out of his ass and is a paranoid bernie supporter.oh.

That makes sense.

Mossad is spying on him too, right?

[Chris]

6iFprrfo4ds

[Reck]

Bernie supporters are trash.

They’re already on that bullshit Bernie or bust. You can’t really tell the difference between a Trumper and Bernie bro.

[hater]

Tulsi obliterates Pocahontas smear

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1216925563400654849?s=21

[TheGreatYacht]

Tulsi obliterates Pocahontas smear

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1216925563400654849?s=21

My boy hater w the goods exposing the lies of CNN & Warren

[Reck]

Tulsi obliterates Pocahontas smear

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1216925563400654849?s=21

No shit, he knew Tulsi didn't have a shot even if she had a million tries. :lol Hater

This is what parents say to kids when they want to go to Disneyland, yeah kiddo, we'll go knowing that the next hour the kid is gonna be too busy playing Fortnite and forget all about Disneyland.

Warren represented a real problem for Bernie so he actually has to take her seriously.

[hater]

No shit, he knew Tulsi didn't have a shot even if she had a million tries. :lol Hater

This is what parents say to kids when they want to go to Disneyland, yeah kiddo, we'll go knowing that the next hour the kid is gonna be too busy playing Fortnite and forget all about Disneyland.

Warren represented a real problem for Bernie so he actually has to take her seriously.

not a surprise your parents lied to you constantly :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

You can tell Warren is getting desperate. She just made a major strategic error.

[Winehole23]

You can tell Warren is getting desperate. She just made a major strategic error.Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.

[hater]

Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.

she obviously lied about Bernies comments on woman president as much as she lied about being an indian :lol

[Reck]

Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.

In the end they are both fucking each other up. Warren’s supporters now have a grudge against Bernie. They are now more likely to split between the remaining candidates should she drop out. I don’t see Bernie retaining her entire coalition as would have been the case in my opinion.

[ChumpDumper]

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[Winehole23]

In the end they are both fucking each other up. Warren’s supporters now have a grudge against Bernie. They are now more likely to split between the remaining candidates should she drop out. I don’t see Bernie retaining her entire coalition as would have been the case in my opinion.Smacks of wishful thinking, but you could be right. Bernie's ace in the hole isn't progressives imho, it's young people and people who don't usually vote.

[spurraider21]

i've been sayin tulsi is angling for a spot on bernie's ticket, tbh...

[CosmicCowboy]

Not diagreeing, but what's the error?

Attacking Bernie is legit, can't really fault anyone for trying to get an edge in a crowded field. What looks like an unforced error to me is calling off her followers and playing the victim.

Picking a fight with Bernie was just dumb. As I have said all along, a Bernie/Warren truce to team up together at the convention could probably pick up enough delegates to win the nomination. She just poisoned those waters.

[ChumpDumper]

Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalition

[Winehole23]

Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalitionThe last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.

[Isitjustme?]

The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.

Lol Obama supporters had very different temperaments than the other two

[RandomGuy]

Smacks of wishful thinking, but you could be right. Bernie's ace in the hole isn't progressives imho, it's young people and people who don't usually vote.

I was going to vote for Warren, but but after talking it over with my 16 year old, I decided to let him pick my vote in the Democratic primary. I will vote the way he tells me to.

With the sole condition that he provide me with a short rationale as to why. Facts, policies, etc.

I figure it will be a good excercise.

He has of course, picked Bernie.

Texas has a mix of caucus and voting for the Democratic primary. He probably doesn't know this, but I remember it well from the Hillary/Obama vote. It is interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Texas_Democratic_primary

[RandomGuy]

Picking a fight with Bernie was just dumb. As I have said all along, a Bernie/Warren truce to team up together at the convention could probably pick up enough delegates to win the nomination. She just poisoned those waters.

Nah.

Whatever goes one will be set aside for the general election. Do not underestimate how much Democrats hate Trump.

[ChumpDumper]

The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.They won tho.

[Winehole23]

Lol Obama supporters had very different temperaments than the other twoOk

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[Reck]

Ok

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Salon.com :lol Are you boutons?

This is some high grade nitpicking here.

[Winehole23]

They won tho.So did Bernie last time he ran as a socialist against a Republican incumbent. ;-)

[Winehole23]

Salon.com :lol Are you boutons?

This is some high grade nitpicking here.Obama followers being deluded cultists and woman haters was a narrative pushed by HRC. There's not really any maybe about that.

[ChumpDumper]

So did Bernie last time he ran as a socialist against a Republican incumbent. ;-)Not in the primary run for POTUS. ;-)

[AaronY]

Salon.com :lol Are you boutons?

This is some high grade nitpicking here.
So desperate :lol

[Winehole23]

Not in the primary run for POTUS. ;-)Sanders was a much stronger candidate than expected in 2016. The same might be true again.

[ChumpDumper]

Sanders was a much stronger candidate than expected in 2016. The same might be true again.His supporters were less than gracious losers in 2016. The same might be true again.

[Trill Clinton]

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[spurraider21]

Bernie's cult of personality isn't going to allow for any kind of coalition


The last two candidates alleged to be leaders of a cult of personality were Barack Obama and DJT.


They won tho.
hmm all the more reason to run bernie then


His supporters were less than gracious losers in 2016. The same might be true again.
statistically, they were gracious with respect to how they voted in the general election. again, if the big (unfounded) concern is that angry berniebros are going to jeopardize the election, then may as well just run him tbh. that way you keep the bros and all the other very well behaved dems will just toe the line

[AaronY]

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[Reck]

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When you average all the polls, it's a much closer affair. (Tighter than I anticipated)

Bernie:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html

Biden:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

Biden is right on top of the margin of error while Bernie is just a tick below it.

Last time I checked these a few months ago both of them showed they beat Trump by well over 8% on average.