Bernie Sanders

[Trill Clinton]

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the old heads are all in on Biden.

[ChumpDumper]

hmm all the more reason to run bernie then


statistically, they were gracious with respect to how they voted in the general election. again, if the big (unfounded) concern is that angry berniebros are going to jeopardize the election, then may as well just run him tbh. that way you keep the bros and all the other very well behaved dems will just toe the line
Not if he can't win anyway.

And the defections did arguably make enough of a difference in swing states, caveats noted.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

So might as well vote for Trump anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

the old heads are all in on Biden.link to that actual poll?

[Trill Clinton]

link to that actual poll?

I think he was trying to be funny. But most of the older people I discuss politics feel Biden has the best chance of beating Trump.

[spurraider21]

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this is pretty funny from that very poll tbh :lol

republicans like tulsi more than democrats do despite her being one of the farthest left leaning members of congress

https://i.gyazo.com/18b54dffd32885b7944ccd0ede833ab0.png

[ChumpDumper]

I think he was trying to be funny. But most of the older people I discuss politics feel Biden has the best chance of beating Trump.It all comes down to the electoral college, which means a few thousand votes in otherwise not overly important states. Yes, Biden has the best chance in those states.

[spurraider21]

Not if he can't win anyway.

And the defections did arguably make enough of a difference in swing states, caveats noted.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

So might as well vote for Trump anyway.
yep those defections were the difference maker man. why risk it again? just put bernie on the ticket

[ChumpDumper]

yep those defections were the difference maker man. why risk it again? just put bernie on the ticketYep, four more years or Trump for sure.

[DarrinS]

His supporters were less than gracious losers in 2016.

Same with her supporters

https://media.tenor.com/images/d6eb7c160a0b5a313fa495d38da1fdf3/tenor.gif

:lmao

[spurraider21]

Yep, four more years or Trump for sure.
they wont defect if he's the nominee.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin the Trump supporter

[ChumpDumper]

they wont defect if he's the nominee.But he won't win.

[spurraider21]

But he won't win.
damn. so sounds like 4 more years of trump unless sanders wins the nom.

nothing we can do because of those uppity defectors. not like dems have won any elections recently despite having a good amount of defectors following the primary.

[ChumpDumper]

damn. so sounds like 4 more years of trump unless sanders wins the nom.Nope.

[spurraider21]

Nope.
i dont know how else to see it. impossible to win because of berniebros

[ChumpDumper]

i dont know how else to see it.Of course you don't.:tu

[Reck]

this is pretty funny from that very poll tbh :lol

republicans like tulsi more than democrats do despite her being one of the farthest left leaning members of congress

https://i.gyazo.com/18b54dffd32885b7944ccd0ede833ab0.png

Public opinion trumps facts these days. Even I'm not immune from that.

I call Tulsi a republican despite her positions being rather progressive.

Hillary gets tagged with being a shitty candidate but in my opinion that wasn't what did her in. (my proof is she did win the popular vote by like 3 mil)

She lost even before she ran. Her baggage was too much.

[AaronY]

John Legend endorses Warren on Twitter goes exactly how you'd expect

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[spurraider21]

Public opinion trumps facts these days. Even I'm not immune from that.

I call Tulsi a republican despite her positions being rather progressive.
she was vice-chair of the DNC for 3-4 years... but she's been poopoo-ing them since the 2016 primaries. but as far as i see, her criticisms are of the institution, not of policy


Hillary gets tagged with being a shitty candidate but in my opinion that wasn't what did her in. (my proof is she did win the popular vote by like 3 mil)

She lost even before she ran. Her baggage was too much.
the baggage was definitely a big deal, but also people caught on to how she was essentially "the chosen one" with the DNC paving the way for her. the nomination really felt like a formality and a right of passage. bernie's wave wasn't "supposed" to happen

[hater]

:lol Darrin the Trump supporter

^ #stillwithher

[ChumpDumper]

^ #stillwithher:lol nope

You are tho. you can't quit her.:tu

[Ball Buster]

:lol Klobuchar and Buttigieg fans

Bernie’s going to win this

[spurraider21]

:lol Klobuchar and Buttigieg fans

Bernie’s going to win this
i dont think those people exist on this forum

but biden is clearly in the drivers seat

[DarrinS]

i dont think those people exist on this forum

but biden is clearly in the drivers seat


Either way, a senile old white dude will get the nom. :lol

[Reck]

Same with her supporters

https://media.tenor.com/images/d6eb7c160a0b5a313fa495d38da1fdf3/tenor.gif

:lmao

Do you actually have this saved in your computer? You have posted this at least 300 times in the last 3 years. Does it give you a woody?

[spurraider21]

Either way, a senile old white dude will get the nom. :lol
to campaign against an old senile white dude incumbent

[AaronY]

I would vote for Joe Biden but there is no way a straight white male would make it through the Democratic primaries.

[hater]

Either way, a senile old white dude will get the nom. :lol

and hopefully beat the senile old white bastard in the white house :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

and hopefully beat the senile old white bastard in the white house :lol

:worthy:

[CosmicCowboy]

As terrible as Trump is it's incomprehensible that Bernie Sanders could be President.

[Reck]

As terrible as Trump is it's incomprehensible that Bernie Sanders could be President.

And yet you think a Bernie/Warren ticket is feasible.

[CosmicCowboy]

And yet you think a Bernie/Warren ticket is feasible.

Certainly feasible to win the nomination over Biden or Bloomberg. Your party is as fucked up as the Republicans.

[RandomGuy]

Certainly feasible to win the nomination over Biden or Bloomberg. Your party is as fucked up as the Republicans.

"both sides" bullshit. If you can say that, you are either not being honest, or are really dumb.


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281255&page=347&p=10037800&viewfull=1#post10037800

[Spurminator]

Do you actually have this saved in your computer? You have posted this at least 300 times in the last 3 years. Does it give you a woody?

It's funny when people who vote for the same candidates as Qtards share ridiculous caricatures of the opposition.

[RandomGuy]

As terrible as Trump is it's incomprehensible that Bernie Sanders could be President.

ok, boomer

:lol

Sanders' support is overwhelming as you go down in age brackets.

[CosmicCowboy]

ok, boomer

:lol

Sanders' support is overwhelming as you go down in age brackets.

Then shame on the young and dumb.

[RandomGuy]

Then shame on the young and dumb.

And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're going through


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281255&page=347&p=10037800&viewfull=1#post10037800

[CosmicCowboy]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281255&page=347&p=10037800&viewfull=1#post10037800

I don't have to defend Trump just because I say Bernie sucks. There is a lot of sucking going on with both sides.

[spurraider21]

As terrible as Trump is it's incomprehensible that Bernie Sanders could be President.
it would be more incomprehensible that a 30 year congressman would become president than an unstable celebrity like trump?

[spurraider21]

ok, boomer

:lol

Sanders' support is overwhelming as you go down in age brackets.
thats promising for his agenda, but not for his candidacy. olders voters tend to be much more reliable. he'll be gone by the time his base becomes a big enough part of the voting block

[RandomGuy]

I don't have to defend Trump just because I say Bernie sucks. There is a lot of sucking going on with both sides.

You don't have to defend Trump.

But you do have to answer for the stupid shit your party is turning a blind eye to.

What the fuck does it say about the Republicans that they are collectively willing to shrug this kind of shit off?

[RandomGuy]

thats promising for his agenda, but not for his candidacy. olders voters tend to be much more reliable. he'll be gone by the time his base becomes a big enough part of the voting block

They voted in record numbers in 2018.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/youth-turnout-midterm-2018/575092/


I try to keep an ear to the ground in my kids' minds, and walk them through politics (surprise!), but among their friends, I think they are a lot more aware than they used to be.

2020 is going to see a huge wave of these kids voting again.

Old white evangelicals have vastly overplayed their hand.

[CosmicCowboy]

You don't have to defend Trump.

But you do have to answer for the stupid shit your party is turning a blind eye to.

What the fuck does it say about the Republicans that they are collectively willing to shrug this kind of shit off?

uhhhh...no I don't.

[RandomGuy]

uhhhh...no I don't.

Then don't defend them. Just... be honest for once.

What the fuck does it say about the Republicans that they are collectively willing to shrug this kind of shit off?

[TheGreatYacht]

I cannot wait till all the baby boomers die off. This world will be in much better hands when the younger and woke generations of the left and right become the majority. The younger generations who realize that Israel is NOT our greatest ally.

[spurraider21]

I cannot wait till all the baby boomers die off. This world will be in much better hands when the younger and woke generations of the left and right become the majority.
https://i.gyazo.com/71dffdcc06c7f134e2299bfbbf7dae1a.png

The younger generations who realize that Israel is NOT our greatest ally.
https://i.gyazo.com/f3a4b1ed2a4fed8df5ee847cc9edd34a.png

[CosmicCowboy]

Then don't defend them. Just... be honest for once.

What the fuck does it say about the Republicans that they are collectively willing to shrug this kind of shit off?

:lmao

I don't have to defend anything to you. I have made my opinion of Trump well known.

[spurraider21]

:lmao

I don't have to defend anything to you. I have made my opinion of Trump well known.
yeah that he can shoot someone on 5th avenue for all you care as long as he cuts your taxes by a couple %

[Reck]

I cannot wait till all the baby boomers die off.


Koriwhat-esque.....but acceptable.

[spurraider21]

Koriwhat-esque.....but acceptable.
i think he implied natural causes, and not murder like koriwhat

[boutons_deux]

I cannot wait till all the baby boomers die off. This world will be in much better hands when the younger and woke generations of the left and right become the majority. The younger generations who realize that Israel is NOT our greatest ally.

goddamn, you're fucking stupid

[boutons_deux]

CNN Has It In for Bernie

The cable news network was consistently biased against Sanders at the seventh Democratic debate, but this could end up further mobilizing his campaign.

The big loser of the night was the network that hosted the event.

CNN was so consistently aligned against Bernie Sanders that it compromised its claim to journalistic neutrality.

Podcaster Katie Halper was also unimpressed (https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1217263608918429697) with how CNN commentators tried to minimize foreign policy differences between Sanders and Joe Biden.

She tweeted,

“These @cnn (https://twitter.com/CNN) commentators are appalling.

They’re making it sound like [S]anders created a false controversy over the foreign policy differences between him and Biden as if it’s not actually an existential distinction between the two of them.”

As my colleague Elie Mystal tweeted (https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1217281529312763905),

“Jesus Christ I hate these biased questions from the moderators.

‘How would you keep your plan from bankrupting the country?’

JUST ASK THE KOCH BROTHERS TO MODERATE NEXT TIME!”

There was even anger from non–Sanders supporters who are not hostile to the senator.

Princeton historian Matt Karp tweeted (https://twitter.com/karpmj/status/1217303127931740160),

“Even as Bernie Sanders has built the largest grassroots campaign in US history—and currently leads the race in Iowa and NH—

the networks still run post-debate panels without a single Bernie-friendly voice.”
HuffPost reporter Zach Carter commented (https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1217302146993049600), “CNN’s crew is just straight bashing Sanders post-debate.”

CNN’s treatment of Sanders raises a major problem

that he’s going to have to confront going forward:

Some major players in the mainstream media are clearly unafraid to cover him in a biased and one-sided manner.

The Sanders campaign is a gamble, and

one major uncertainty is whether his base is strong enough to overcome consistently negative media coverage.

https://www.thenation.com/article/sanders-warren-cnn-debate/ (https://www.thenation.com/article/sanders-warren-cnn-debate/)

As with FB, who gave the major networks the power as King Makers and King Destroyers?

[Winehole23]

Not a bad nutshell:

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[AaronY]

Not a bad nutshell:

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Lol'd

[Reck]

Not a bad nutshell:

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Wouldn't consider voting for Biden holding my nose. He may be a moderate and in Hillary's lane but he's no where near as toxic or unlikeable as she was/is.

[AaronY]

Wouldn't consider voting for Biden holding my nose. He may be a moderate and in Hillary's lane but he's no where near as toxic or unlikeable as she was/is.

The derangement is real..did you ever watch the Biden finger thing? Everyone actually there had a ball with it. He stood close to his wife and she kept unknowingly waving her hand in his face. So as a joke he nipped it with his mouth. It was a funny little spontaneous thing. Meanwhile on twitter and Cable news it was this horrible disqualifying thing to the most desperate people who daily find reasons that he is just the worst

He can build some rapport with the crowd at his rallies with his folksy approach so his appeal is pretty easy to get if you try to see what people see in him even if you don't agree with it.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'll vote for Bernie if he's the nominiee.

Will you vote for Biden if he's the nominee?

Nope. Politicians have to earn my vote.

goddamn, you're fucking stupid

Sorry boutons but I don't want open borders like most leftists do. I also don't want pussy ass leftists who are scared to speak out against Zionism.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope.:lol

[baseline bum]

Wouldn't consider voting for Biden holding my nose. He may be a moderate and in Hillary's lane but he's no where near as toxic or unlikeable as she was/is.

I'm still mad as fuck at him for not taking that twat on in 2016. He's dead to me, fuck him.

[Reck]

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I have to believe Warren here. Bernie is acting like a school kid. YOU CALL ME A LIAR SO THERE!

[pgardn]

Cable TV making money.

Just like with Trump and lyin Ted unt little Marco.

[spurraider21]

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I have to believe Warren here. Bernie is acting like a school kid. YOU CALL ME A LIAR SO THERE!
hard to know whose side to take unless we were actually privy to that conversation from 2018. they both called each other liars.

but it does seem pretty slimy for warren's camp to suddenly leak that (let's be honest, who else would) during this point in time over a year later when she stopped getting traction in the polls

if it was that important to her it would have been center stage early on

[DarrinS]

hard to know whose side to take unless we were actually privy to that conversation from 2018. they both called each other liars.

but it does seem pretty slimy for warren's camp to suddenly leak that (let's be honest, who else would) during this point in time over a year later when she stopped getting traction in the polls

if it was that important to her it would have been center stage early on


Agreed. And CNN all too happy help her with that.

[DMC]

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I have to believe Warren here. Bernie is acting like a school kid. YOU CALL ME A LIAR SO THERE!

We know you side with the female. Bernie is her friend but she throws him under the bus. Why was he her friend all this time if he had that opinion of her? Exactly. Fucking indians I swear.

[Reck]

We know you side with the female. Bernie is her friend but she throws him under the bus. Why was he her friend all this time if he had that opinion of her? Exactly. Fucking indians I swear.

No shit, that's a good way to get laid. Quit trying with guys and you might get some, too.

Oh wait, too late for you lard ass.

[Reck]

Bernie is her friend but she throws him under the bus. Why was he her friend all this time if he had that opinion of her?


You are a moron.

Friends get into heated arguements all the time and remain good friends after. Has any of your friends ever call you a creepy fat, middle age internet troller fag? Do you even have friends? :lol

[pgardn]

I want Warren to win so Trump can stalk-debate her while wearing a big white cowboy hat and his bone spurs.

All done proudly in defense of the umerican West.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why do conservatives like DMC and CosmicCowboy see through the DNC and Elizabeth Warren bullshit than the #StillWithHer libtards? Boggles my mind.

[TheGreatYacht]

I want Warren to win so Trump can stalk-debate her while wearing a big white cowboy hat and his bone spurs.

All done proudly in defense of the umerican West.

Trump will eat her alive calling her out on her war mongering and lying.

[pgardn]

Trump will eat her alive calling her out on her war mongering and lying.

Trump wont eat a goldfish alive.

ya choo hating fake muzzy apologist

And ha on the lying.
Get a clue.

[spurraider21]

Why do conservatives like DMC and CosmicCowboy see through the DNC and Elizabeth Warren bullshit than the #StillWithHer libtards? Boggles my mind.
you dont know who the bullshitter is

if they're smart they come out with some joint statement.

[Isitjustme?]

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:wow:wow

[spurraider21]

Agreed. And CNN all too happy help her with that.
there's also the conspiracy theory that CNN knew about this for a while and waited until the day before they were set to host a debate to break the story

[spurraider21]

:lol

https://i.gyazo.com/d3150f14018b7d42a81e5a921a0faf92.png

[Winehole23]

Wouldn't consider voting for Biden holding my nose. He may be a moderate and in Hillary's lane but he's no where near as toxic or unlikeable as she was/is.He isn't a moderate, he's a dinosaur. That he thinks Mitch McConnell is a man he can do business with should be a disqualification all by itself, never mind his obviously deteriorating mental acuity.

[AaronY]

I'm still mad as fuck at him for not taking that twat on in 2016. He's dead to me, fuck him.
His son had just died of brain cancer.

[AaronY]

He isn't a moderate, he's a dinosaur. That he thinks Mitch McConnell is a man he can do business with should be a disqualification all by itself, never mind his obviously deteriorating mental acuity.
Thats obviously lip service that most Americans want to hear even if it is unrealistic.

Can you pivot real quick and tell us what you think of Bernie's claim that if he is elected he will do pep rallies in Kentucky and McConnell will pass $15 hour minimum wage


“If he happens to stay on as majority leader, I will be back in Kentucky to talk about the need to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour,” Sanders said. “When you rally the American people — not just the people in Kentucky — all over this country around an agenda that works for working people, you’re going to be putting enormous pressure on those elected officials like McConnell.”


https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/458844-sanders-defends-15-minimum-wage-lays-out-plan-to-work-around-mcconnell

[AaronY]

The thing I hate about Joe Biden is doesn't have realistic understanding of how today's politics work and how McConnell won't pass his bills. Bernie is much more realistic.
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[DMC]

Aaron, Bernie cannot win. He's a career loser. Even the DNC knows this as does CNN, both obviously extremely liberal.

[hater]

Aaron, Bernie cannot win. He's a career loser. Even the DNC knows this as does CNN, both obviously extremely liberal.

terrible post

Bernie would wipe the floor with Dump

same would Obama

[ElNono]

The only reason Bernie looks like he has a shot and has certain minority galvanized is because guys like Joe Biden are absolutely atrocious. Its still early, but it’s not looking great.

[AaronY]

Aaron, Bernie cannot win. He's a career loser. Even the DNC knows this as does CNN, both obviously extremely liberal.
I think he has a shot for sure. My main complaint is about the out of touch comments from Biden about McConnell. Truthfully as stupid as Bernie's comments about McConnell are what does anyone expect a politician in this circumstance to say,:"If I win the presidency and McConnell has the senate I am really not going to be able to do jackshit in terms of new legislation."

[DarrinS]

I wish Eric Smalwell hadn't dropped out. He was like Schiff's more retarded little brother. :lmao

[Reck]

The only reason Bernie looks like he has a shot and has certain minority galvanized is because guys like Joe Biden are absolutely atrocious. Its still early, but it’s not looking great.

Biden is not the only one running though...

Bernie cant even poll in second place in states like South Carolina. Like in 2016 he'll get his ass lit up in the south.

[Chris]

The derangement is real..did you ever watch the Biden finger thing? Everyone actually there had a ball with it. He stood close to his wife and she kept unknowingly waving her hand in his face. So as a joke he nipped it with his mouth. It was a funny little spontaneous thing. Meanwhile on twitter and Cable news it was this horrible disqualifying thing to the most desperate people who daily find reasons that he is just the worst

He can build some rapport with the crowd at his rallies with his folksy approach so his appeal is pretty easy to get if you try to see what people see in him even if you don't agree with it.

Biden loves it when children touch his hairy legs and sit on his lap.

[Chris]

He also loves dodging any questions about his son Hunter.

[AaronY]

The only reason Bernie looks like he has a shot and has certain minority galvanized is because guys like Joe Biden are absolutely atrocious. Its still early, but it’s not looking great.
Yeah, obviously I disagree about Biden and I think its been proven over and over that you progressives have zero understanding of his appeal and never will. That said this is really a fairly weak field and would obviously love some galvanizing figure like 1960 JFK or 2008 Obama but there is no one like that here.

[DarrinS]

It's gonna be Mr. Magoo corpse Biden. :lmao

[Reck]

It's gonna be Mr. Magoo corpse Biden. :lmao

A corpse you were more than willing to vote for until....he actually decided to run against master Trump. :lol Darrin

[baseline bum]

A corpse you were more than willing to vote for until....he actually decided to run against master Trump. :lol Darrin

lol

[Winehole23]

Thats obviously lip service that most Americans want to hear even if it is unrealistic.

Can you pivot real quick and tell us what you think of Bernie's claim that if he is elected he will do pep rallies in Kentucky and McConnell will pass $15 hour minimum wage




https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/458844-sanders-defends-15-minimum-wage-lays-out-plan-to-work-around-mcconnellSounds like Green Lanternism, but what I think he's talking about it building a political movement beyond and apart from Bernie 2020, that will keep the pressure on.

[baseline bum]

His son had just died of brain cancer.

Forgot about that. Probably still should have run though. He would have been far superior to Clinton and thanks to him sitting out 2016 we have two more hard right SC justices and an almost certain eventual war with Iran.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1217654000922890240

[Winehole23]

A nice person like Liz Breunig would have nothing to do with you, TGY.

[SnakeBoy]

The only reason Bernie looks like he has a shot and has certain minority galvanized is because guys like Joe Biden are absolutely atrocious. Its still early, but it’s not looking great.

Looks to me like the plan is a Biden/Warren ticket. Not sure that's going to get the Bernie bros onboard. Probably piss them off even more. Rigged again lol

[Reck]

Looks to me like the plan is a Biden/Warren ticket. Not sure that's going to get the Bernie bros onboard. Probably piss them off even more. Rigged again lol

I like that.

Warren is only now a "establishment" candidate because she's competing against Bernie. There's nothing establisment about Warren.

[TheGreatYacht]

I like that.

Warren is only now a "establishment" candidate because she's competing against Bernie. There's nothing establisment about Warren.

She's always been part of the establishment just not one of their favorites. She's a last resort. Bernie a big NO NO to the establishment.

[spurraider21]

Warren would be wasted as VP. Much more valuable as a senator

[ChumpDumper]

I wish Eric Smalwell hadn't dropped out. He was like Schiff's more retarded little brother. :lmaoSay Darrin, do you approve of the job Trump is doing as president?

[Winehole23]

Say Darrin, do you approve of the job Trump is doing as president?
11th Commandment: Speak no ill of a fellow Republican. DMC has this disease too.

[Winehole23]

The only reason Bernie looks like he has a shot and has certain minority galvanized is because guys like Joe Biden are absolutely atrocious. Its still early, but it’s not looking great.It's amazing the wise establishmentarian heads and all their magpies online are going with the same strategy as 2016: pushing an elderly, center-right, out of touch, dues-paid party insider dubbed "most electable"

[ChumpDumper]

It's amazing the wise establishmentarian heads and all their magpies online are going with the same strategy as 2016: pushing an elderly, center-right, out of touch, dues-paid party insider dubbed "most electable"Why are the awesome far left candidates trying to destroy each other?

[SnakeBoy]

I like that.

Warren is only now a "establishment" candidate because she's competing against Bernie. There's nothing establisment about Warren.

She'll tow the line, always has.

[ElNono]

Biden is not the only one running though...

Bernie cant even poll in second place in states like South Carolina. Like in 2016 he'll get his ass lit up in the south.

I'm not a fan of Bernie either. There should be an age limit for candidates.

Also, we should return the south back to Mexico, tbh...


Yeah, obviously I disagree about Biden and I think its been proven over and over that you progressives have zero understanding of his appeal and never will. That said this is really a fairly weak field and would obviously love some galvanizing figure like 1960 JFK or 2008 Obama but there is no one like that here.

What's there to like about him? Name me one thing likeable about the guy? Low energy, flip flopper, old, creepy, completely dishonest. I mean, I get it, Trump shares a lot of those attributes too, and he's completely unlikeable too unless you've been banned from twitter for being a bot or you were buying into pizzagate, tbh...

[ElNono]

Looks to me like the plan is a Biden/Warren ticket. Not sure that's going to get the Bernie bros onboard. Probably piss them off even more. Rigged again lol

Warren is way more corporatist that she lets on, but there's no way she gets the VP nod, IMO. Grandpa would basically lose all the endorsement money from Wall Street, and he doesn't have to.

He'll pick another minority guy that tows the line, maybe Booker, Castro or even Beto.

[SnakeBoy]

What's there to like about him? Name me one thing likeable about the guy? Low energy, flip flopper, old, creepy, completely dishonest. I mean, I get it, Trump shares a lot of those attributes too, and he's completely unlikeable too unless you've been banned from twitter for being a bot or you were buying into pizzagate, tbh...

C'mon that's not a fair comparison. Trump is anything but low energy and when it comes to lying he's way better than Biden can ever hope to be.

[spurraider21]

Warren is way more corporatist that she lets on, but there's no way she gets the VP nod, IMO. Grandpa would basically lose all the endorsement money from Wall Street, and he doesn't have to.

He'll pick another minority guy that tows the line, maybe Booker, Castro or even Beto.
i can see biden/beto

would be funny since beto is a wannabe barry, and this time biden would be in charge

[ElNono]

C'mon that's not a fair comparison. Trump is anything but low energy and when it comes to lying he's way better than Biden can ever hope to be.

Low energy is the only attribute that they don't share. As far as lying, I'll say Trump is 10x worse, but more entertaining? Honestly, I'm not into the 'levels of lying' thing, they both lie like there's no tomorrow.

[SnakeBoy]

Warren is way more corporatist that she lets on, but there's no way she gets the VP nod, IMO. Grandpa would basically lose all the endorsement money from Wall Street, and he doesn't have to.

He'll pick another minority guy that tows the line, maybe Booker, Castro or even Beto.

Idk, every Dem talking head I've heard can't stop saying how much blacks love Joe and Warren is an acceptable alternative to Bernie. Just seems like they think it would be a good pairing. Like I said I don't think it is. We'll see.

It's funny that the Dems have out done the GOP primary from 2016. A larger field of even shittier choices :lol.

[spurraider21]

Idk, every Dem talking head I've heard can't stop saying how much blacks love Joe and Warren is an acceptable alternative to Bernie. Just seems like they think it would be a good pairing. Like I said I don't think it is. We'll see.

It's funny that the Dems have out done the GOP primary from 2016. A larger field of even shittier choices :lol.
:lol no

there were some very shitty dems, but thats because the pool was also a lot bigger. but trump, carson, cruz being among the frontrunners at all times, i mean thats historically terrible. kasich was the saving grace. i liked graham at the time, too, but man he has full TDS right now

[ElNono]

Idk, every Dem talking head I've heard can't stop saying how much blacks love Joe and Warren is an acceptable alternative to Bernie. Just seems like they think it would be a good pairing. Like I said I don't think it is. We'll see.

It's funny that the Dems have out done the GOP primary from 2016. A larger field of even shittier choices :lol.

Yup. And yet, probably the shittiest, less serious candidate from that field ended up winning the election. C'est la vie.

[ElNono]

:lol no

there were some very shitty dems, but thats because the pool was also a lot bigger. but trump, carson, cruz being among the frontrunners at all times, i mean thats historically terrible. kasich was the saving grace. i liked graham at the time, too, but man he has full TDS right now

If the Dems had a Kasich, they'll be set. Right now, Biden = emo version of Trump, and Bernie = older Louie Gohmert.

[ElNono]

Ok, maybe that's unfair to Bernie... not Gohmert. Maybe an older Ted Cruz... with the whole getting cucked and helping Shillary post-primaries.

[SnakeBoy]

:lol no

there were some very shitty dems, but thats because the pool was also a lot bigger. but trump, carson, cruz being among the frontrunners at all times, i mean thats historically terrible. kasich was the saving grace. i liked graham at the time, too, but man he has full TDS right now

lol How come you can't seperate your personal views at all when discussing the side you aren't ever going to vote for anyway? That's like me saying the best Dem candidates were Tim Ryan and Delaney.

[Winehole23]

Why are the awesome far left candidates trying to destroy each other?
Eh, I don't think this latest furore is all that big a deal. All seems a bit contrived to me.

Won't matter much when Warren drops out.

[ElNono]

I will admit that the fact that Carson, and even Cain got any traction was hilarious.

[Winehole23]

Politicians saying mean things about each other is garden variety campaigning at this point.

[Chris]

Trump

ding

[ChumpDumper]

ding

You'll notice Darrin can never, ever find the stones to answer this question.

[CosmicCowboy]

She'll tow the line, always has.

Is that like pulling the train?

[Spurminator]

NM saw followup post

[Reck]

It's amazing the wise establishmentarian heads and all their magpies online are going with the same strategy as 2016: pushing an elderly, center-right, out of touch, dues-paid party insider dubbed "most electable"

Yes insulting the people who support certain candidates is the way to go when they don’t want to vote for you. That’s an even better strategy. :tu

[Spurminator]

This is where conservative sociopathy gives them an advantage in every national election.

Looking like a flagrantly dishonest, racist and misogynist billionaire with no political experience or credibility is going to get the Republican nomination?
"Oh well, better fall in line. As long as we win."

Looking like an old-fashioned former VP with some bad decisions in his past might get the Democratic nomination to run again the above nominee?
"THIS IS AN OUTRAGE."
"Not unless he supports free college and a $15 minimum wage!"
"Oh great, another straight white man."
"Fuck it, I'm staying home."


I don't buy all this "establishment/DNC is pushing Biden" garbage. The polls aren't DNC inventions. For whatever reason, Biden still has the support of the public. He's certainly given them plenty of opportunities to withdraw that support. But most people don't watch the debates or speeches or follow any of this. They see "Biden" and there's brand association with Obama. That's all he needs. And if that's all we need to get the current POTUS out of office, so be it. I can live with Joe Biden picking federal judges and signing/vetoing legislation.

[spurraider21]

lol How come you can't seperate your personal views at all when discussing the side you aren't ever going to vote for anyway? That's like me saying the best Dem candidates were Tim Ryan and Delaney.
I voted for Romney tbh. Probably wouldn’t repeat that move if i went back in time, admittedly.

Kasich was in the final 3 though

[Winehole23]

Yes insulting the people who support certain candidates is the way to go when they don’t want to vote for you. That’s an even better strategy. :tuAbsent a physical record of a two year old conversation, reports of what were said are more or less unverifiable. I don't buy that Bernie Sanders said what Warren said he did.

The tactical error is Warren's, IMO.

[spurraider21]

If the Dems had a Kasich, they'll be set. Right now, Biden = emo version of Trump, and Bernie = older Louie Gohmert.


Ok, maybe that's unfair to Bernie... not Gohmert. Maybe an older Ted Cruz... with the whole getting cucked and helping Shillary post-primaries.
I don’t understand these comparisons at all

losing in the primary and then supporting the nominee is done nearly 100% of the time

[spurraider21]

Absent a physical record of a two year old conversation, reports of what were said are more or less unverifiable. I don't buy that Bernie Sanders said what Warren said he did.

The tactical error is Warren's, IMO.
Yeah, i agree with this. I’ve been pretty openly pro warren on this board, but going back to her DNA test thing i said that it showed poor judgment and made me skeptical that she’d campaign well. And lo and behold, we’ve seen some poor strategy from her since she peaked

[Spurminator]

Yeah, i agree with this. I’ve been pretty openly pro warren on this board, but going back to her DNA test thing i said that it showed poor judgment and made me skeptical that she’d campaign well. And lo and behold, we’ve seen some poor strategy from her since she peaked

I worried about this in 2016 when her messaging seemed to revolve around outrage. When she sticks to policy she's usually pretty good.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1217906841642000384?s=19

[Winehole23]

Sanders takes care of his own. :tu

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1217906841642000384?s=19
innuendo, nothing more

you suddenly care a lot about campaign finance violations :lol

[Reck]

:lol How many shitty Veritas videos are you going to post Qchris?

[SnakeBoy]

Yes insulting the people who support certain candidates is the way to go when they don’t want to vote for you. That’s an even better strategy. :tu

Of course you're with him already :lol

[Reck]

Of course you're with him already :lol

I go where Bernie doesn't.

I didn't like him in 2016. Why would I like him or vote for him now? (Unless he gets the nomination)

BTW I dont vote in the primaries. That's for fanatical old people like you. I shouldn't vote period. New York votes one way no matter what.

[koriwhat]

Why would I like him or vote for him now? (Unless he gets the nomination)

fucking sheep... no wonder you tuck your dick between your legs nowadays.

[Reck]

fucking sheep... no wonder you tuck your dick between your legs nowadays.

So I should vote for Trump? :lol

I'm not a bitter faggot like you that would stay home and not vote because someone else got the nomination over my prefered candidate. That's what shitheads like you and Bernie bros do.

[koriwhat]

So I should vote for Trump? :lol

I'm not a bitter faggot like you that would stay home and not vote because someone else got the nomination over my prefered candidate. That's what shitheads like you and Bernie bros do.

i'm no bernie bro and i will be voting this time around to stop tranny's like you and the other losers on the left. fuck yalls shit ideology! burn in hell!

[Reck]

burn in hell!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7INIhD9P0Pw

[koriwhat]

...

glad my message was clear enough for your retarded ass to get :tu

[baseline bum]

Yeah, i agree with this. I’ve been pretty openly pro warren on this board, but going back to her DNA test thing i said that it showed poor judgment and made me skeptical that she’d campaign well. And lo and behold, we’ve seen some poor strategy from her since she peaked

Warren is fucking blowing it. God, we're stuck with Biden. :pctoss

[koriwhat]

Warren is fucking blowing it. God, we're stuck with Biden. :pctoss

well, she was always good with smoke signals so...

[baseline bum]

If the Dems had a Kasich, they'll be set. Right now, Biden = emo version of Trump, and Bernie = older Louie Gohmert.

They nominated one in 2016 and got their teeth kicked in.

[TheGreatYacht]

Warren and Sanders should talk things out in the locker room. Have Warren drop out and endorse Bernie Sanders. A coalition of Bernie and Warren supporters will obliterate senile Biden for good.

Of course this never gonna happen. Warren is part of the establishment. She endorsed Killary over Bernie in 2016 :lol

[pgardn]

Warren is fucking blowing it. God, we're stuck with Biden. :pctoss

One step at a time.
The first step, imo, is to remove a narcissistic, lying piece of orange bovine residue.
Fix infrastructure and health care first because the lying orange blurr had zero (again he lied) and both parties still agree it needs fixing.

[baseline bum]

One step at a time.
The first step, imo, is to remove a narcissistic, lying piece of orange bovine residue.
Fix infrastructure and health care first because the lying orange blurr had zero (again he lied) and both parties still agree it needs fixing.

You have to try to remove him with a good candidate, because the vast majority of people who voted for our Dear Leader in 2016 will again in 2020. Biden will ensure this will be another nailbiter of an election because he's running on the same thing Clinton did: namely, that Trump is a criminal and an asshole and unfit for office. That's not going to get people to the polls this year any more than it did in 2016.

[spurraider21]

Warren and Sanders should talk things out in the locker room. Have Warren drop out and endorse Bernie Sanders. A coalition of Bernie and Warren supporters will obliterate senile Biden for good.

Of course this never gonna happen. Warren is part of the establishment. She endorsed Killary over Bernie in 2016 :lol
warren, along with some other big names like obama, pelosi, didnt endorse either until the primaries were settled. warren endorsed hillary after she had secured the nomination. so did bernie himself :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

warren, along with some other big names like obama, pelosi, didnt endorse either until the primaries were settled. warren endorsed hillary after she had secured the nomination. so did bernie himself :lol

"Democrats good. Republicans bad. Trump is bad." That's not gonna do it in 2020 :lol

We need Bernie.

[spurraider21]

"Democrats good. Republicans bad. Trump is bad." That's not gonna do it in 2020 :lol

We need Bernie.
changing the subject from your bullshit "warren endorsed clinton over bernie" when she abstained until the nomination was already decided. she then endorsed hillary over trump. so did bernie

i'd prefer bernie to biden

now, if biden wins the nom, i'd rather him than trump. you'd prefer trump to biden. its that simple

[boutons_deux]

the establishment, left and right, will destroy Bernie, just like UK establishment destroyed Corbin

[spurraider21]

"if you think trump should be impeached you have TDS but if you think he should be executed for treason you are woke"

- the great twat

[TheGreatYacht]

changing the subject from your bullshit "warren endorsed clinton over bernie" when she abstained until the nomination was already decided. she then endorsed hillary over trump. so did bernie

i'd prefer bernie to biden

now, if biden wins the nom, i'd rather him than trump. you'd prefer trump to biden. its that simple

Trump will help us reach rock bottom. Hopefully people will wake the fuck up including Trump supporters. That's the way I see it.

[spurraider21]

Trump will help us reach rock bottom. Hopefully people will wake the fuck up including Trump supporters. That's the way I see it.
then you are fucking nuts. look at the last 4 years. his supporters have only latched onto him even tighter. even republicans who hated him like lindsey graham now toss his salad regularly

[TheGreatYacht]

then you are fucking nuts. look at the last 4 years. his supporters have only latched onto him even tighter. even republicans who hated him like lindsey graham now toss his salad regularly

If Trump wins 2020 the economy is gonna crash. He's probably gonna start an all out war w Iran. He will continue putting Israel first over America. I can't see how that's not gonna wake up his supporters

[Chris]

Warren is fucking blowing it. God, we're stuck with Biden. :pctoss

your party is trash :rollin

[baseline bum]

your party is trash :rollin

Can't say I disagree when they're going to be running Biden.

[TheGreatYacht]

Indignant Elizabeth Warren Refuses To Shake Bernie's Hand Post Debate

https://youtu.be/enQ_laaEg40

[Chris]

Her body, her choice.

[Chris]

Can't say I disagree when they're going to be running Biden.

https://displate.com/displates/2019-06-23/067669904e90ba0836e81991d6989046_5eb60ce83552abb6d 4e7d8130fe34353.jpg?w=280&v=3

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeCamp/status/1217995454392107008

[spurraider21]

Hopefully people will wake the fuck up including Trump supporters.


https://displate.com/displates/2019-06-23/067669904e90ba0836e81991d6989046_5eb60ce83552abb6d 4e7d8130fe34353.jpg?w=280&v=3
:lmao great twat

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao great twat

He won't be saying that after 2020 when the economy tanks and Trump starts a war with Iran :lol

Maybe he's that retarded that he will say Trump Jr 2024 :lol

[spurraider21]

He won't be saying that after 2020 when the economy tanks and Trump starts a war with Iran :lol

Maybe he's that retarded that he will say Trump Jr 2024 :lol
Trump has something like 95% approval among republicans and most republicans think he’s the the best president in us history. More than half want trump jr or ivanka 2024.

they won’t turn on trump even if he performed a late term abortion on live tv

but you think trump beating Biden’s and further stacking the courts is a good thing :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump has something like 95% approval among republicans and most republicans think he’s the the best president in us history. More than half want trump jr or ivanka 2024.

they won’t turn on trump even if he performed a late term abortion on live tv

but you think trump beating Biden’s and further stacking the courts is a good thing :lmao

Ending all the Zionist wars is my #1 priority. Zionsim is the root of all evil in the middle east.

[Reck]

glad my message was clear enough for your retarded ass to get :tu

Dude what is there to understand? You have two gears: extreme anger and telling people to go kill themselves.

Not hard to figure out where you're at any particular time.

[Reck]

Warren and Sanders should talk things out in the locker room. Have Warren drop out and endorse Bernie Sanders. A coalition of Bernie and Warren supporters will obliterate senile Biden for good.

Of course this never gonna happen. Warren is part of the establishment. She endorsed Killary over Bernie in 2016 :lol

:lol regretting things.

You need Warren as much as Bernie needs her.

You fucked up. That's why I said they fucked themselves.

[koriwhat]

Dude what is there to understand? You have two gears: extreme anger and telling people to go kill themselves.

Not hard to figure out where you're at any particular time.

cry some more tranny... idgaf about your faux morality ya cocksucker.

[Reck]

Can't say I disagree when they're going to be running Biden.

How can you when the other choice is Trump?

While he's there there is no way you can say the dem party is trash. They're not the ones who tried to kill healthcare as we know it or fuck up the constitution on a daily basis.

[koriwhat]

They're not the ones who tried to kill healthcare as we know it or fuck up the constitution on a daily basis.

you're kidding right? on both accounts? :lmao

[spurraider21]

Ending all the Zionist wars is my #1 priority. Zionsim is the root of all evil in the middle east.
And you think trump surrounded by neocons is a better solution than Biden :lmao

[Reck]

you're kidding right? on both accounts? :lmao

*Trumpcare :lol

[koriwhat]

And you think trump surrounded by neocons is a better solution than Biden :lmao

thinking biden is worth a fuck is what's laughable... the dude can't even speak right and yet yall harp on trump's slip-ups and whatnot. it's hilarious how you prop up a corpse but put down a man you've been told to hate by losers like yourself.

[koriwhat]

*Trumpcare :lol

anything's better than socialism and an implied fine if you don't sign up for obamahospice.

[TheGreatYacht]

thinking biden is worth a fuck is what's laughable... the dude can't even speak right and yet yall harp on trump's slip-ups and whatnot. it's hilarious how you prop up a corpse but put down a man you've been told to hate by losers like yourself.

:lol

[Reck]

:lol

Dont know what's so funny?

What he said applies to Bernie probably even worse. Dude actually has a heart attack to his name. An actual walking corpse

[spurraider21]

thinking biden is worth a fuck is what's laughable... the dude can't even speak right and yet yall harp on trump's slip-ups and whatnot. it's hilarious how you prop up a corpse but put down a man you've been told to hate by losers like yourself.
I’m not a Biden fan

[TheGreatYacht]

Dont know what's so funny?

What he said applies to Bernie probably even worse. Dude actually has a heart attack to his name. An actual walking corpse
Bernie is not a sellout. I prefer Tulsi but Bernie is not too far behind.

[TheGreatYacht]

And you think trump surrounded by neocons is a better solution than Biden :lmao

I don't go for the lesser of two evils crap. I want someone who will either fix shit (Bernie) or someone that will help us hit rock bottom (Trump). I already explained why. I want poeple to wake the fuck up.

[Reck]

I don't go for the lesser of two evils crap. I want someone who will either fix shit (Bernie) or someone that will help us hit rock bottom (Trump). I already explained why. I want poeple to wake the fuck up.

Explain how Bernie will fix everything.

[TheGreatYacht]

Explain how Bernie will fix everything.

He will put an end to all the Zionist wars. I'll vote for any Democrat or Republican who can accomplish that.

[ElNono]

I don’t understand these comparisons at all

losing in the primary and then supporting the nominee is done nearly 100% of the time

I mean in the sense that while Bernie seemingly did lose fair and square, we also got to know the DNC was all in for Shillary. Bernie did get cucked, then went ahead and supported Shillary anyways.

As far as Cruz, well, we all know how low Trump went with him, then the next thing we see, is Teddy manning the phones for Team Trump...

[ElNono]

They nominated one in 2016 and got their teeth kicked in.

Are you talking about Kasich being anything remotely close to Shillary? They're nothing alike.

[baseline bum]

Are you talking about Kasich being anything remotely close to Shillary? They're nothing alike.

Milquetoasts who didn't like Trump.

[AaronY]

Sounds like Green Lanternism, but what I think he's talking about it building a political movement beyond and apart from Bernie 2020, that will keep the pressure on.

I don't know what Green Lanternism is but from preliminary searching its you bashing Obama again. But when you shit on Biden doing lip service for wanting to work with McConnell and that being unrealistic and Bernie's plan is to have his activists who are mostly white college kids protest McConnell in Kentucky like that will work I mean Jesus fucking Christ. Republicans would gleefully watch a video of McConnell telling college kid protesters to go fuck themselves like it was a porno movie


It's amazing the wise establishmentarian heads and all their magpies online are going with the same strategy as 2016: pushing an elderly, center-right, out of touch, dues-paid party insider dubbed "most electable"
No one is pushing him lol. Your problems are all with voters and you blame everyone else from the DNC to MSM to whatever.

[ElNono]

Milquetoasts who didn't like Trump.

Nobody liked Trump. That doesn't mean much, tbh

[Winehole23]

I don't know what Green Lanternism is but from preliminary searching its you bashing Obama again. But when you shit on Biden doing lip service for wanting to work with McConnell and that being unrealistic and Bernie's plan is to have his activists who are mostly white college kids protest McConnell in Kentucky like that will work I mean Jesus fucking Christ. Republicans would gleefully watch a video of McConnell telling college kid protesters to go fuck themselves like it was a porno movie


No one is pushing him lol. Your problems are all with voters and you blame everyone else from the DNC to MSM to whatever.Lol you pretending you haven't been pushing Biden.

[Winehole23]

Lol AaronY being unable to look a single slang word up

[AaronY]

Lol you pretending you haven't been pushing Biden.
I never pretended I wasn't a Biden supporter. I am.

[AaronY]

Oh, wait when I say no one is pushing I mean no one in the media for the most part. It's not a conspiracy. most voters are just picking him and not being subliminally coerced into it by the media or the DNC.

[AaronY]

Biden will ensure this will be another nailbiter of an election because he's running on the same thing Clinton did: namely, that Trump is a criminal and an asshole and unfit for office. That's not going to get people to the polls this year any more than it did in 2016.

This is silly. Regardless of if you think Biden will do better or worse he's a vastly different candidate than Clinton to the general voter who cares less about policy than political diehards (the second choice of Biden voters is Bernie by a very, very large margin which shows you much in some cases moderate vs progressive matters vs whether or not they like a candidate personally). He has a more folksy charm, would be seen as less perhaps arrogant and rehearsed than Hillary and quite frankly is a man which means his support base is demographically different. I think he has an underrated level of appeal especially in like town balls and his rallies where he is very good at building rapport with his crowds.

[AaronY]

Now excuse me while I go log these message boards into my DNC timecard and collect my $3.00 for "pushing" the establishment candidate

[FrostKing]

This Bernie vs Warren episode illustrates the foundational problem with the modern Democratic Party. Too many contrasting movements pulling in their own direction and even backstabbing

Because the Democratic Party is comprised of many smaller minority groups it is very difficult to get them all on board collectively. I.E if Biden/Bernie are the nominees you have a significant portion of the base dreading those candidates gender and age.

[boutons_deux]

Sanders climbs, now tied with Biden among registered voters
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/sanders-climbs-now-tied-with-biden-among-registered-voters-reuters-poll.html

[Spurminator]

I mean in the sense that while Bernie seemingly did lose fair and square, we also got to know the DNC was all in for Shillary. Bernie did get cucked, then went ahead and supported Shillary anyways.

The alternative being that he either campaigns for Trump, or stays silent and bitter and further ensures Trump's victory.

I think Bernie is smart enough to know that even without DNC interference he wouldn't have necessarily won the nomination. I'm glad he put his pride aside for the good of the country. Too bad it didn't work.

[Spurminator]

namely, that Trump is a criminal and an asshole and unfit for office. That's not going to get people to the polls this year any more than it did in 2016.

Disagree. People have seen four years of Trump now and they know he can win. No one thought he would win in 2016, which affected turnout.

I expect voter enthusiasm on the left to be much higher, regardless of the candidate. Whether that's enough to overcome four years of voter suppression actions by Republicans is probably a different story.

[boutons_deux]

"four years of voter suppression actions by Republicans is probably a different story."

and the $Bs the oligarchy will spend to re-elect Trash and Repug Senate to keep the govt largesse flowing to the oligarchy, with many thanks to their SCOTUS whores.

Oligarchy knows from 2018 election that they very probably can't retake the House, so keeping the WH and Senate will maintain the status quo rigged in their favor.

[Chris]

This Bernie vs Warren episode illustrates the foundational problem with the modern Democratic Party. Too many contrasting movements pulling in their own direction and even backstabbing

Because the Democratic Party is comprised of many smaller minority groups it is very difficult to get them all on board collectively. I.E if Biden/Bernie are the nominees you have a significant portion of the base dreading those candidates gender and age.

It's only natural that the toxicity of identity politics eroded the Democratic Party from within.

[koriwhat]

What he said applies to Bernie probably even worse.

yes it applies to 2face bernout too. as well, why anyone would want an old piece of shit commie as president is beyond me.


Nobody liked Trump.

before or after he announced his campaign for president? us non-dems already know the answer to that question. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

yes it applies to 2face bernout too. as well, why anyone would want an old piece of shit commie as president is beyond me.

His policies will help Americans who weren't part of the lucky sperm club.

[koriwhat]

His policies will help Americans who weren't part of the lucky sperm club.

his policies will destroy our country just like they have many before. fuck communism/socialism and fuck 2face bernie!

[TheGreatYacht]

his policies will destroy our country just like they have many before. fuck communism/socialism and fuck 2face bernie!

Yeah I'm sure economic warfare and sanctions aren't part of the problem.

[koriwhat]

Yeah I'm sure economic warfare and sanctions aren't part of the problem.

idgaf what you're spouting rn... bernie and the rest of the commies are better off dead! better dead than red!

[TheGreatYacht]

idgaf what you're spouting rn... bernie and the rest of the commies are better off dead! better dead than red!

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZionistReport/status/1217548928268283905
:wow

Be careful who you offend and wish death upon.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Opposes Trump's NAFTA

https://youtu.be/K8F7_iGu6AE

[koriwhat]

Be careful who you offend and wish death upon.

i hope all commies burn in hell! idgaf who i wish death on especially when it comes to communist scumbags.

[TheGreatYacht]

i hope all commies burn in hell! idgaf who i wish death on especially when it comes to communist scumbags.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Vidarshnu/status/1163524538812030977
Your grandfather would be disappointed of you smh.

[koriwhat]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Vidarshnu/status/1163524538812030977
Your grandfather would be disappointed of you smh.

your stupid ass hangup on a relative of mine i never knew is quite cringe-worthy tbh. it's odd as fuck that you keep bringing him up as if he was any sort of grandfather to me to begin with.

you're a very odd and mentally warped human being.

[Reck]

Be careful who you offend and wish death upon.

So you’re not laughing now are you?

[phxspurfan]

Bernard Sanders

[Winehole23]

Interesting, if predictive:

1217963556450140160Source: https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/

[AaronY]

Bernie Bros also have this thing where the election will turn out around young people which is coincidentally his strongest group (funny how that works out) but the group thats votes the least. But Bernie's problems with black voters and older voters who vote the most are not something to be ignored.

Looking at blacks while Hillary did worse than Obama (who is really a once in a lifetime candidate as the first black president) with black turnout her levels were still in line with pre-Obama numbers..

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout.png


..and you can definitely make the case that going with the candidate who 84% of the voters voted against in the 2016 Democratic primaries would have lowered black turnout substantially.

If you look at the first and third columns here (the fourth is highlighted for some reason but ignore that) it sure likes it would be in 2020 as well based on this new poll

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOiBDqOX0AE-GCX?format=jpg&name=medium

[AaronY]

Warren would be wasted as VP. Much more valuable as a senator

Massachussetts and Vermont have Republican Governors so if either Bernie or Warren was chosen as VP Dems would lose a senate seat. I thought Hillary should have chosen Bernie as her VP in 2016 since strategically it would have helped unify the vote. She was not as close to death as Joe so I wouldnt support that this time and if Biden wins would be better to go somewhat moderate anyway as a progressive VP is not going to make anyone think Joe is running on a progressive ticket given these primaries anyway.

[spurraider21]

now say "rose twitter"

[spurraider21]

Massachussetts and Vermont have Republican Governors so if either Bernie or Warren was chosen as VP Dems would lose a senate seat. I thought Hillary should have chosen Bernie as her VP in 2016 since strategically it would have helped unify the vote. She was not as close to death as Joe so I wouldnt support that this time and if Biden wins would be better to go somewhat moderate anyway as a progressive VP is not going to make anyone think Joe is running on a progressive ticket given these primaries anyway.
so basically do 2016 again.

beto or bootyjudge would make sense on a biden ticket, tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/1215341126695247873?s=20

Dumbass Dem Booker seeking to declare everyone an "ist" in normal leftist fashion threw your boy under the bus.

How Alex Jonesy do you think this cult will get if Biden wins Iowa and NH and Bernie goes down in flames?

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:lol TheGreatYacht

Never seen geek this out of sorts before.

Kyle Kulinski Mocks Warren’s Dancing & WOKE Twitter Pounces

https://youtu.be/xt8rXNFNeUY

[AaronY]

now say "rose twitter"
Huh?

[spurraider21]

Huh?
its ur catchphrase man. you gotta say it

[AaronY]

so basically do 2016 again.

beto or bootyjudge would make sense on a biden ticket, tbh
Yes, Hillary and Biden are exactly the same. Personalities don't matter and voters merely look at a spreadsheet based on positions lmao. This is why Biden supporters pick Bernie as their number two favorite because of their ideological similarities. Also, why if Warren dropped out polls from before their spat Warren voters second choice was Bernie at 30% and Biden at a whoppingly massive difference of 19%.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/rakich-secondchoice-1205-1.png?w=575

Buttigieg would be good I guess. I never really followed Beto. There's not much point in pretending Biden is a progressive after he potentially wins the primaries by standing up to progressives.

[AaronY]

its ur catchphrase man. you gotta say it
Yeah, I'm not a fan of progressivism and you guys aren't a fan of Biden. These are very salient points that need to be stated to make everything clear here.

[AaronY]

The Warren to Biden thing is weird but I think a lot of Hillary diehards are Warren supporters. Its just a guess based on twitter which is very unrepresentative but Warren has the most loyal Dem followers based on polls, Warren supporters complain about how Warren has to face complaints about medicare for all costs Bernie didn't, and then there is a lot of whining about how Bernie hasn't face the press or something and how Hillary was vilified when she didnt have a press conference or something in 2016.

[AaronY]

Bernie Bros also have this thing where the election will turn out around young people which is coincidentally his strongest group (funny how that works out) but the group thats votes the least. But Bernie's problems with black voters and older voters who vote the most are not something to be ignored.

Looking at blacks while Hillary did worse than Obama (who is really a once in a lifetime candidate as the first black president) with black turnout her levels were still in line with pre-Obama numbers..

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout.png


..and you can definitely make the case that going with the candidate who 84% of the voters voted against in the 2016 Democratic primaries would have lowered black turnout substantially.

If you look at the first and third columns here (the fourth is highlighted for some reason but ignore that) it sure likes it would be in 2020 as well based on this new poll

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOiBDqOX0AE-GCX?format=jpg&name=medium
link for that bottom study is here in case anyone wants to read it. came out yesterday

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/washington-post-ipsos-poll-of-african-americans-jan-2-8-2020/a41b5691-e181-4cda-bb88-7b31935103d9/

[Isitjustme?]

If you look at the first and third columns here (the fourth is highlighted for some reason but ignore that) it sure likes it would be in 2020 as well based on this new poll

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOiBDqOX0AE-GCX?format=jpg&name=medium

Someone must have been making a point about turnout. Biden would cause the highest turnout among black voters if thats right

[Isitjustme?]

Klobuchar at the bottom of that is not surprising she sucks so bad with black voters :lol

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[AaronY]

Klobuchar at the bottom of that is not surprising she sucks so bad with black voters :lol

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Wow, lol.

[ElNono]

before or after he announced his campaign for president? us non-dems already know the answer to that question. :lmao

Not sure what you mean. I was referring to the other candidates, be it from the GOP or Dems. Obviously, that means after he entered the race.

[Reck]

Interesting, if predictive:

1217963556450140160Source: https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/

Strange. Buttigieg supporters are pretty much silent. They're not out there making a fuss like Trump or Bernie supporters.

That number is a bit high so I'm calling bullshit on that.

[benefactor]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Vidarshnu/status/1163524538812030977
Your grandfather would be disappointed of you smh.
He's a disappointment to the human race as a whole tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

He's a disappointment to the human race as a whole tbh

:lol

[Reck]

Klobuchar at the bottom of that is not surprising she sucks so bad with black voters :lol

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This dummy keeps talking about how she hasn't lost a race ever in her life like that matters when you're running a nation wide campaign for president.

Not only is she doing pathetically bad with African Americans but she's not making any impressions on the latino voters either. She's doing more than poorly across those 4 polls with all the demographics.

[koriwhat]

He's a disappointment to the human race as a whole tbh

says the biggest bitch of them all on ST; ST's own facebook stalking snitch Bene the faggot!

[koriwhat]

So you’re not laughing now are you?

:tu :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

:tu :lmao

"We need a president who will help all Americans -- not just the rich."

- Bernie Sanders

[koriwhat]

"We need a president who will help all Americans -- not just the rich."

- Bernie Sanders

it's funny how you stand behind a millionaire commie who has convinced you and many others that he's not rich when he clearly is. you're a lemming bro so it's no surprise you're willing to jump off the cliff with ol' 2face bernout. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

it's funny how you stand behind a millionaire commie who has convinced you and many others that he's not rich when he clearly is. you're a lemming bro so it's no surprise you're willing to jump off the cliff with ol' 2face bernout. :tu

He's the poorest member of the Senate. You sound like CNN smearing tbh..

[koriwhat]

He's the poorest member of the Senate. You sound like CNN smearing tbh..

oh cry me a river "he's the poorest millionaire of them all!"

hurry up and jump off that cliff already.

[Reck]

He's the poorest member of the Senate. You sound like CNN smearing tbh..

A not so sneaky way to not answer a question. He's still a rich person.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2019/04/12/how-bernie-sanders-the-socialist-senator-amassed-a-25-million-fortune/#1fda322136bf

I'm not mad though, you have to go make that money. Hustle never stops. Bernie is not excluded from that. He got rich from his 2016 failed run and will no doubt cash in this time around too.

[koriwhat]

He got rich from his 2016 failed run and will no doubt cash in this time around too.

don't forget his stupid fucking book too.

[TheGreatYacht]

oh cry me a river "he's the poorest millionaire of them all!"

hurry up and jump off that cliff already.

The working class and poor people donate to his campaign. All the others are bought and paid for by corporations.

[koriwhat]

The working class and poor people donate to his campaign. All the others are bought and paid for by corporations.

idgaf! keep making excuses for a socialist millionaire if you'd like but you're not making a strong case whatsoever. you're backed in a corner while supporting a total hack and all the while you want to point fingers at everyone else. fuck out of here you brainwashed radical YT loser!

[TheGreatYacht]

idgaf! keep making excuses for a socialist millionaire if you'd like but you're not making a strong case whatsoever. you're backed in a corner while supporting a total hack and all the while you want to point fingers at everyone else. fuck out of here you brainwashed radical YT loser!

Lol you can't win against Bernie. He's not bought and paid for like the others including Trump (Zio puppet).

[koriwhat]

Lol you can't win against Bernie. He's not bought and paid for like the others including Trump (Zio puppet).

i'm not up against bernie so... either way, here here to the dnc rigging the primaries against that old piece of shit commie once again!!!

you mad bro? :lmao

[spurraider21]

don't forget his stupid fucking book too.
Do you have a problem with people keeping proceeds of their book sales?

[TheGreatYacht]

i'm not up against bernie so... either way, here here to the dnc rigging the primaries against that old piece of shit commie once again!!!

you mad bro? :lmao

Nah, I get a laugh out of you :lol

[koriwhat]

Do you have a problem with people keeping proceeds of their book sales?

i have a problem with commie socialists screaming at the world to step in line while they themselves swim around in millions. principles elude you i see; then again, you're a lawyer so it's not a shock whatsoever.

[koriwhat]

Nah, I get a laugh out of you :lol

i get a laugh out of you too you fucking radical YT loser. :tu

[DMC]

Do you have a problem with people keeping proceeds of their book sales?

Socialist relying on capitalism? Ya I have a problem with it.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bernie Is Fed Up With This Silly Question

https://youtu.be/shmir0LPkHs

[koriwhat]

Socialist relying on capitalism? Ya I have a problem with it.

:tu

[DMC]

SR21 thinks the disingenuous shtick is unique. He's a lowest hanging fruit type, harmless.

[Spurminator]

Socialist relying on capitalism? Ya I have a problem with it.

:lol
You don't know what socialism is.

[DMC]

:lol
You don't know what socialism is.

So you think Bernie's publisher is owned and regulated by the community? Do tell, Adam. See if you can muster that without sending up the Avengers SOS beacon :lol