NBA Trade Deadline 2018

[NASpurs]

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[Dex]

Meanwhile, at Spurs Headquarters:

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[Robz4000]

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Houston-bound

[DAF86]

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No sense on getting Johnson without dumping someone.

[DPG21920]

Spurs don't need another old guard. They need better guards.

[monkeypunk]

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Rules us out if Kawhi isn't coming back.

[baseline bum]

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And yet no hope the Spurs can salary dump that double jelly roll Fifty :depressed

[NASpurs]

Houston-bound

Yeah it says "contender" on the tweet, rules out the Spurs.

[cd98]

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That eliminates the Spurs.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd take ISO Joe if they didn't already have Gay..I often forget he's on the team, what a waste signing:lol

[timtonymanu]

Yeah it says "contender" on the tweet, rules out the Spurs.

[Chillen]

WTF did the Cavs do? they blew up the whole team and got mainly guards. They traded IT and Crowder? also Wade back to Miami, damn. LeBron can't be very happy right now.

[TimDunkem]

I'd take ISO Joe if they didn't already have Gay..I often forget he's on the team, what a waste signing:lol

"But, but, but...when he finally gets healthy!!"

[NASpurs]

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[DPG21920]

If there is any truth to the rumors of Kawhi being unhappy with the roster watching what CLE just did will by help. People trying (me included) to sell Kawhi that his roster got to a WCF. For Lebron, CLE used only a pick like SA has to breathe youth to appease their star and that team has made the finals multiple years in a row; not just a Conference Final.

[SAGirl]

How is Tyreke Evans still not traded yet for how cheap he is?


People don't want to let go of that first round pick that the Grizzlies are demanding. First round picks are like gold right now.
That plus whoever trades for him will have to pay him next summer without bird rights to him. He really is a 3 month rental...

[NASpurs]

Ugh I hate Kennedy but whatever

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[Leetonidas]

WTF did the Cavs do? they blew up the whole team and got mainly guards. They traded IT and Crowder? also Wade back to Miami, damn. LeBron can't be very happy right now.

Why? They traded mostly scrub players for contributors. What is there to be mad at

[sasaint]

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Wow! If that is true... The Land now shows promise.

[DPG21920]

Why? They traded mostly scrub players for contributors. What is there to be mad at

Not that it matters to Bron but they saved LAs ass and gave them a first rounder for it :lol plenty to be mad at

[HarlemHeat37]

Lopez would be nice as a Spur(despite his major flaws) if they didn't already have Pau..

[TimDunkem]

Nice when you have players other impending FAs want to play with and not just washed up vets playing with their washed up friends while Kawhi and LMA shoulder all the burden.

[sasaint]

If there is any truth to the rumors of Kawhi being unhappy with the roster watching what CLE just did will by help. People trying (me included) to sell Kawhi that his roster got to a WCF. For Lebron, CLE used only a pick like SA has to breathe youth to appease their star and that team has made the finals multiple years in a row; not just a Conference Final.

True!

[NASpurs]

12 minutes left until the deadline. Get that 2018 NBA Buyout Thread engine running. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Not that it matters to Bron but they saved LAs ass and gave them a first rounder for it :lol plenty to be mad at

Why? He traded away a player he hates and he helped the Lakers create cap space in case he decides to go there..

[DPG21920]

Why? He traded away a player he hates and he helped the Lakers create cap space in case he decides to go there..

That's why I said the reasons to be mad at the trade don't concern Bron. Just everyone else

[baseline bum]

Damn if only the Spurs could have traded Fifty to Cleveland for that pick they landed in the Wade deal.

[timtonymanu]

ftfy

Agreed, was being generous

[cd98]

12 minutes left until the deadline. Get that 2018 NBA Buyout Thread engine running. :lol

Better have some language in their about scraps of buyouts after GS, Rockets, Cavs, Thunder, and Celtics have eaten.

[Seventyniner]

:lol


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Awesome.

[NASpurs]

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[BatManu20]

Orlando has traded Elfrid Payton to Phoenix for a second-round pick, league source tells ESPN.

[Chomag]

Tp's expiring would have made a good move but oh well can't trade culture

[NASpurs]

Wait, why isn't it working? Did he delete it?

[Keepin' it real]

The Spurs usually wait until buyout time when the real bargains can be had.

Well, I guess I can relate to that. I only shop at Ross, in the clearance section, and even then, I try to haggle the prices down.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Wait, why isn't it working? Did he delete it?

What was it bro?

[NASpurs]

What was it bro?

What BatManu20 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33095) had to copy and paste, should had left it man :lol

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[DPG21920]

:lmao CLE doing the NBA a massive favor helping to restore its two biggest franchises.

Gave Kyrie to Boston.

Bails out La making them the most significant free agent player while giving them a first for helping them.

:lmao

[timtonymanu]

The 50/Porky backcourt will be fun to see getting destroyed in the playoffs

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, what a bust, tbh..2nd round pick:wow

[sasaint]

:lmao CLE doing the NBA a massive favor helping to restore its two biggest franchises.

Gave Kyrie to Boston.

Bails out La making them the most significant free agent player while giving them a first for helping them.

:lmao

And it only cost the league one championship.

[sasaint]

Damn, what a bust, tbh..2nd round pick:wow

Might have been able to resurrect his career on a good team, but not in Phoenix.

[NASpurs]

And it's 2:00 and the deadline has passed. There's always some minor trades after the deadline that were completed but not approved by the league so there's always that I guess.

[baseline bum]

Another trade deadline passes and Fifty's fat ass is still here :depressed

[vy65]

sp:lolrs

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

We had better assets. Like Tony's 15 millions expiring, Danny's shorter contract or even guys like Gay or Anderson.

Tony isn't getting traded.

Apparently, Danny is only going to be traded if it's for a star.

Rudy is injured and a FA this summer. He holds no value for Utah if he can't play right now as they are trying to make the playoffs, and they aren't sure he will re-sign over the summer... the fact he is injured just depresses interest for him IMO.

Spurs could trade Kyle but you don't know that Utah has any interest in him whatsoever. They might just ask Spurs for a pick which just breaks the deal. Spurs would send out Kyle plus a 1st and then have to pay Hood all that money this summer. It's simple, they can't afford Hood this summer (specially if you don't send real salary back in a trade).

But of course, we don't know that any of these guys were even offered in any trade.

[timtonymanu]

The 50/Porky backcourt will be fun to see getting destroyed in the playoffs

[phxspurfan]

So glad out of all this that IT is being regarded as what he really is. An undersized trash player. Not even as good as Damon Stoudamire was, or Jameer Nelson. Just a chucker with an attitude problem who carries (and is finally getting called for carrying) on every posession

[BatManu20]

Deandre Jordan not going anywhere when the Clips should be tanking is the biggest surprise to me.

[Budkin]

So fucking predictable.

[phxspurfan]

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another trash player to the Suns lol. Sarver loves replacement level guards

[phxspurfan]

Deandre Jordan not going anywhere when the Clips should be tanking is the biggest surprise to me.

They wanted Cleveland's first and a star in return, most likely. An offer they never got

[SAGirl]

But Crowder fucking sucks. Why would they want to keep him? :lol
He has been bad in Cleveland but played very well in Boston just a season ago. He's their kind of guy, gritty.

Frankly I think you overrate Hood.

[Ron Swanson]

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[BatManu20]

Naturally.


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[SAGirl]

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They should take the best offer. They aren't doing anything this season and he will not re-sign there... just get what you can.

[BatManu20]

Also naturally.


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[DPG21920]

So HOU improved in the off season. CLE improved this deadline. OKC improved this deadline. GS didn't have too.

If there is any truth to Kawhi not being happy w the roster this didn't help.

[vy65]

“It’s always tough to see a teammate go unless he is willing to go,” Ginobili said. “There are some situations — it hasn’t happened very often with us — where somebody is very uncomfortable and wants to leave.

“But it is always painful when you see a teammate leaving. You create a bond, and you have been together for so long, and you are going to do your best with your guys. Sometimes it is going to be enough, sometimes it won’t. But it has a meaning to go through tough times and great times with the people you know and trust and you have grown used to playing with.”

:cry the pain :cry
:cry plz don't go, plz :cry
:cry its so tough :cry
:cry det culture :cry

[TheDoctor]

Thus ended the Bruno Caboclo project.

RIP.

[BatManu20]

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[cjw]

So HOU improved in the off season. CLE improved this deadline. OKC improved this deadline. GS didn't have too.

If there is any truth to Kawhi not being happy w the roster this didn't help.

There may not have been a move they were able to make. But come late June, they better give Kawhi free reign to make the tweaks he wants plus the supermax. Anything should be fair game.



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Because the Clippers misread his value. Not getting a first rounder and a valuable player like Green for a guy who has underperformed.

[Hoops Czar]

So HOU improved in the off season. CLE improved this deadline. OKC improved this deadline. GS didn't have too.

If there is any truth to Kawhi not being happy w the roster this didn't help.

Kawhi is a star player. He needs to be an active participant rather than a passenger along for the ride. As bad as RC is at his job, He doesn't have any right to complain.

[DPG21920]

There may not have been a move they were able to make. But come late June, they better give Kawhi free reign to make the tweaks he wants plus the supermax. Anything should be fair game.

I think they tried but were they willing to trade ManU or TP and their first like CLE did?

[San Antonio Slayer]

whom did OKC get?

[TheDoctor]

:lol


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:lmao

[SAGirl]

Nice when you have players other impending FAs want to play with and not just washed up vets playing with their washed up friends while Kawhi and LMA shoulder all the burden.
This is hypocritical.
What burden?
Kawhi has been injured all season.
Then what players want to play with Kiwi and LMA?

[SpurPadre]

Way to improve relations with Kawhi, PATFO...

[TimDunkem]

This is hypocritical.
What burden?
Kawhi has been injured all season.
Then what players want to play with Kiwi and LMA?

When Kawhi gets back what do you think will happen? Carrying most of the load for everyone again while they get fat and collect checks.

[SAGirl]

Orlando has traded Elfrid Payton to Phoenix for a second-round pick, league source tells ESPN.
:wow

[SAGirl]

When Kawhi gets back what do you think will happen? Carrying most of the load for everyone again while they get fat and collect checks.
I am just calling you out for trotting out cliche lines in a season Kiwi has been injured for the entirety of it, plus the Spurs were losing with him playing bc he was in minutes restrictions and not 100%. Have to call it like it is.

[pgardn]

People giving Boston and Toronto way too much credit. It's still the frkn East.

The Cavs can win the East merely with what they got.
And then hope Curry breaks a leg after sluggin it out with Houston.
They are 1 series away being in 3rd. We are a PG, a SG, a..... we are toast.

They are much closer than we could ever hope to be by just being in the leastern conference!
Sorry. I don't believe in Boston. I've watched their last 10 or so games...
Lebron can get another AND leave with injury luck.

Could be brilliant.

[gambit1990]

all the people who bought IT’s cavs jersey :lol

[TheDoctor]

:wow

For some reason I want the Lakers to bought-out IT and PHX to sign him :lol

[gambit1990]

For some reason I want the Lakers to bought-out IT and PHX to sign him :lol
it'd be funnier if the lakers bought IT out... and then the celtics sign him for cheap :lol

[DAF86]

Tony isn't getting traded.

Apparently, Danny is only going to be traded if it's for a star.

Rudy is injured and a FA this summer. He holds no value for Utah if he can't play right now as they are trying to make the playoffs, and they aren't sure he will re-sign over the summer... the fact he is injured just depresses interest for him IMO.

Spurs could trade Kyle but you don't know that Utah has any interest in him whatsoever. They might just ask Spurs for a pick which just breaks the deal. Spurs would send out Kyle plus a 1st and then have to pay Hood all that money this summer. It's simple, they can't afford Hood this summer (specially if you don't send real salary back in a trade).

But of course, we don't know that any of these guys were even offered in any trade.

I only brought Rudy and Anderson up because they are potential free agents this off season. I still don't buy that Utah traded for Crowder because they thought he was a desirable piece for the future.

[DPG21920]

My issue is that with current contracts sa has no easy path to improving in off season. Will be interesting to see how this off season and deadline impacts Kawhis decision. Keep Kawhi - you have to. Only priority and only measure of success.
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[DAF86]

He has been bad in Cleveland but played very well in Boston just a season ago. He's their kind of guy, gritty.

Frankly I think you overrate Hood.

Hood is a 6'8'' guy that is averaging 17 ppg on 39% 3pt shooting on a laughable cheap contract.

Crowder is a 6'6'' 3 and D guy that can't neither shoot nor defend. And is being paid 7 per for the next three years.

I seriously can't wrap my head around it. There's gotta be something more.

[Down Under]

Spurs don't need another old guard. They need better guards.
Not if TP returns to playoff form from last year IMO. At the moment one PG can shoot, one can defend & one can get us into our sets. Biggest problem is, none can get their own shot. If TP gets back to form from last year's playoffs, the balance looks so much better.

[SAGirl]

I brought Rudy and Anderson only because they are potential free agents this off season. I still don't buy that Utah trade for Crowder because they thought he was a desirable piece for the future.

Utah might not have been too high on Crowder but they were ready to let Hood walkfor nothing this summer (that tells you what they think of Hood).

and they appear to have wanted a wing player back to help out this season (makes sense they want a wing back bc they have Sefolosha injured too and are sending out a wing, plus Joe Johnson). Crowder had very good seasons in Boston and has only looked bad in the dumpster fire that is the Cavs.

Rudy has no value to them bc he's injured and a FA this next summer that they aren't sure will want to be back.

You could debate Crowder vs Anderson, but I am just going to give you the spurstalk troll version, he doesn't have any value on his own. Teams were asking for 1st round picks in trades involving Danny so I imagine for Kyle it's no different.

Trade only makes sense if you understand they were looking for a wing to replace Hood bc they wanted no part of Hood or his deal moving forward.

[dabom]

Spurs need scoring. IT wouldn't hurt.

[dabom]

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All the ST faggots. :lmao

[LittleCriminal]

Utah might not have been too high on Crowder but they were ready to let Hood walkfor nothing this summer (that tells you what they think of Hood).

and they appear to have wanted a wing player back to help out this season (makes sense they want a wing back bc they have Sefolosha injured too and are sending out a wing, plus Joe Johnson). Crowder had very good seasons in Boston and has only looked bad in the dumpster fire that is the Cavs.

Rudy has no value to them bc he's injured and a FA this next summer that they aren't sure will want to be back.

You could debate Crowder vs Anderson, but I am just going to give you the spurstalk troll version, he doesn't have any value on his own. Teams were asking for 1st round picks in trades involving Danny so I imagine for Kyle it's no different.

Trade only makes sense if you understand they were looking for a wing to replace Hood bc they wanted no part of Hood or his deal moving forward.

You know absolutely nothing that pertains to the FO wants, needs or desires..
Anybody who believes ur nonsense needs to be shot.
another post of a typical troll armchair gm with nothing better to do than suk off that 3rd stringer shit pile kyle..

[SAGirl]

Hood is a 6'8'' guy that is averaging 17 ppg on 39% 3pt shooting on a laughable cheap contract.

Crowder is a 6'6'' 3 and D guy that can't neither shoot nor defend. And is being paid 7 per for the next three years.

I seriously can't wrap my head around it. There's gotta be something more.
Hood is due to get paid and has been a huge negative liability on defense for his entire career even playing in a defensive juggernaut like the Jazz have been at times. Him being a defensive sieve is why he plays a lot of minutes coming off the bench. He's a high usage ball stopper... doesn't create for his teammates and I have seen criticism from Utah fans that wanted him gone. He's streaky too. He's due for a big payday due to his shooting... think you overrate Hood highly bc he lit up Patty and Forbes that one time. The last time the Jazz kicked Spurs butt he scored 5 points.

[DPG21920]

whom did OKC get?

Paul George and Melo.

[DAF86]

Hood is due to get paid and has been a huge negative liability on defense for his entire career even playing in a defensive juggernaut like the Jazz have been at times. Him being a defensive sieve is why he plays a lot of minutes coming off the bench. He's a high usage ball stopper... doesn't create for his teammates and I have seen criticism from Utah fans that wanted him gone. He's streaky too. He's due for a big payday due to his shooting... think you overrate Hood highly bc he lit up Patty and Forbes that one time. The last time the Jazz kicked Spurs butt he scored 5 points.

I didn't even watch that game. In fact, I haven't seen much of Hood at all. But by just looking at the numbers and the contracts it is easy to come to the conclusion that a Hood for Crowder swap didn't make much sense for the Jazz. Even if you wanted to get something for Hood, Crowder for 7 millions per year for the next three years seem like a pretty shitty deal. They could have at least got a draft pick.

[SAGirl]

I didn't even watch that game. In fact, I haven't seen much of Hood at all. But by just looking at the numbers and the contracts it is easy to come to the conclusion that a Hood for Crowder swap didn't make much sense for the Jazz. Even if you wanted to get something for Hood, Crowder for 7 millions per year for the next three years seem like a pretty shitty deal. They could have at least got a draft pick.
I just looked bbref... the Jazz have been -10 with him on the floor compared to other options. Defensively he has been really bad for them this season and offensively they are better without him, even with his shooting and he's due to get paid and Jazz already made up their mind they aren't paying him... they just wanted a wing back b4 he walked for nothing.

I think bc of the sefolosha injury, plus them sending out Hood plus Joe, they needed a wing. Crowder is in a reasonable deal. Wings nowadays are paid a lot more, even ones that are mediocre.. unless we are talking rook deals or dleague projects which one never knows how they will do (BP3 for example).'

Edit: Hood wasn't going to net them a pick obviously. They would have taken that if it was available but it wasn't.

Also, bc of his shooting ability, he might just need to be Kyle Korver/Ray Allen like for the Cavs and be a success. That might not be the same in other teams.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

People don't want to let go of that first round pick that the Grizzlies are demanding. First round picks are like gold right now.

Yeah just because teams fleeces that idiot Chris Wallace for 1st round picks over guys like Ronnie Brewer and Jeff Green doesn't mean he can do the same to other teams. The Grizzlies weren't getting a 1st rounder for a 2-3 month rental. Especially from non-contenders.

And :lol @ the Grizzlies sitting Tyreke because they're gonna trade him only to keep him. This organization is a bunch of buffoons.

[DPG21920]

Let’s say Kawhi and Rudy come back and SA makes another run to the WCF and loses to GS. How will they improve in the off-season if the goal is to at least try and get better even though it may be impossible to leapfrog GS?

[pad300]

Let’s say Kawhi and Rudy come back and SA makes another run to the WCF and loses to GS. How will they improve in the off-season if the goal is to at least try and get better even though it may be impossible to leapfrog GS?

Option
1) Sign Lebron. Will involve a whole lot of moving parts and may not be possible. We could easily be looking at another CP3 job.
Alternatively
2) Sign Tyreke Evans for the full MLE / 4 yrs (this might be possible - Lou Williams may have set the market).
Draft well. Try and find the next Spencer Dinwiddie. Try and find another good veteran big for the vet min, a la David Lee...

[DPG21920]

So ya, that does not seem easy at all^

[UZER]

Spurs always so afraid to make moves because of how it will impact their salary cap space 7 years from now. But they give Patty and Pau ridiculous contracts right now.

[pad300]

So ya, that does not seem easy at all^

Who the hell said anything about easy? Wasn't me.

[DPG21920]

Who the hell said anything about easy? Wasn't me.

I did when you responded to me. I said reasonable path actually.

[TD 21]

At least Walker didn't get traded elsewhere, leaving open the possibility between end of the season and July 1st (when Gay can opt out; they need his contract to take back Williams).

It still probably won't happen, but there was always a better chance then than now. Not only are Spurs notoriously adverse to in season moves (especially of this magnitude), but an ignominious end to the season could up their desperation level.


- Cavaliers did well, but are now officially in same position as Spurs with no second creator. Plus, Hood, Clarkson and Nance have little to no playoff experience and they have to put this together with 29 games to go, then re-integrate Love later. While slightly more likely to make the Finals, they're no more likely to win it.


- :tu Mavericks (exchanging superfluous small guard for needed size on wing), Pistons (needed wing depth), Lakers (cap space + 1st), Knicks and Suns (Mudiay and Payton worth looks for relatively low cost).

- :lmao Grizzlies (should have taken the best offer for Evans), Timberwolves (if/when they sign Rose), Kings (admittedly blowing 13 / 22 in '16 just over 18 months after draft).

[MaNu4Tres]

I find it fascinating how some people utilize and back up their opinions using advanced metrics ( plus/minus, drpm, orpm, or On/Off points per/100 possessions, ect) for all players they're assessing.

But when someone brings up Murrays' advanced metrics they don't want to except those facts.

[Chillen]

So Cavs essentially traded Irving for a 1st rounder and Lakers role players, lol. Aldridge would have been a much better haul for Irving that pick may or may not pan out. Trading Wade back to Miami? seriously for a 2nd rounder not worth it Wade must have wanted out. People think Cleveland got better with these deals, gonna have to see how this plays out they pretty much traded the whole team.

[Leetonidas]

Cant believe the Grizz kept Evans after telling him to sit out knowing he's almost guaranteed to leave in the off-season

[MoSpur02]

The Spurs should go after Aaron Gordon

[tonight...you]

The Spurs should go after Aaron Gordon

Ritter rate on dat.

[MaNu4Tres]

At least Walker didn't get traded elsewhere, leaving open the possibility between end of the season and July 1st (when Gay can opt out; they need his contract to take back Williams).

It still probably won't happen, but there was always a better chance then than now. Not only are Spurs notoriously adverse to in season moves (especially of this magnitude), but an ignominious end to the season could up their desperation level.


- Cavaliers did well, but are now officially in same position as Spurs with no second creator. Plus, Hood, Clarkson and Nance have little to no playoff experience and they have to put this together with 29 games to go, then re-integrate Love later. While slightly more likely to make the Finals, they're no more likely to win it.


- :tu Mavericks (exchanging superfluous small guard for needed size on wing), Pistons (needed wing depth), Lakers (cap space + 1st), Knicks and Suns (Mudiay and Payton worth looks for relatively low cost).

- :lmao Grizzlies (should have taken the best offer for Evans), Timberwolves (if/when they sign Rose), Kings (admittedly blowing 13 / 22 in '16 just over 18 months after draft).

I'm upset how cheap Pistons got Ennis.

I like Ennis. He did well vs. SA last year when Spurs barely got by Memphis thanks to Kawhi going god mode.

[Chinook]

I find it fascinating how some people utilize and back up their opinions using advanced metrics ( plus/minus, drpm, orpm, or On/Off points per/100 possessions, ect) for all players they're assessing.

But when someone brings up Murrays' advanced metrics they don't want to except those facts.

You can find it as fascinating as you want. It won't change the fact that Bradley's sample size is like 20 times larger than Murray's and not remotely dissonant with his career trajectory

[UZER]

Pop has even brainwashed his players into winning is not that important. :lol

He's all shtick now.



We stand pat. It's what we do.

:pop:

[Johnsyounger]

Bring back Perk! O wait he signed with Cleveland.......O wait he didn't....:downspin:

[spurraider21]

whom did OKC get?
https://cdn.dopl3r.com/memes_files/when-you-accidentally-type-whom-instead-of-who-uwUtf.jpg

[dabom]

https://cdn.dopl3r.com/memes_files/when-you-accidentally-type-whom-instead-of-who-uwUtf.jpg

He was actually right.

[dabom]

OKC got/gets "him". Good*

OKC got/gets "he". Bad*

"Let’s look at another:Who/whom should I talk to about labeling food in the refrigerator?

Try substituting “he” and “him”: I should talk to he. I should talk to him. “Him” works, so the word you need is whom.
Whom should I talk to about labeling food in the refrigerator?

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/

[TimDunkem]

I am just calling you out for trotting out cliche lines in a season Kiwi has been injured for the entirety of it, plus the Spurs were losing with him playing bc he was in minutes restrictions and not 100%. Have to call it like it is.

It's not a cliche line. This is basically the same team as last year except LMA is the one shouldering the load while Kawhi recovers. If and when he comes back, we know how this team is going to play. It's reality. Nothing cliche about it.

[ElNono]

“It’s always tough to see a teammate go unless he is willing to go,” Ginobili said. “There are some situations — it hasn’t happened very often with us — where somebody is very uncomfortable and wants to leave.

“But it is always painful when you see a teammate leaving. You create a bond, and you have been together for so long, and you are going to do your best with your guys. Sometimes it is going to be enough, sometimes it won’t. But it has a meaning to go through tough times and great times with the people you know and trust and you have grown used to playing with.”

:cry the pain :cry
:cry plz don't go, plz :cry
:cry its so tough :cry
:cry det culture :cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2oxFIsENgM

[SAGirl]

It's not a cliche line. This is basically the same team as last year except LMA is the one shouldering the load while Kawhi recovers. If and when he comes back, we know how this team is going to play. It's reality. Nothing cliche about it.
it's not the reality when Kiwi hasn't been carrying the burden Tim. not all this season.

Lamarcus has, and a supporting cast of different guys each night.

Bc you don't know who is the one who will have the career night or pull through, you don't know how many minutes to play and lineups... and some nights no one can really step up... roleplayers will notoriously be inconsistent that is what makes them roleplayers... but it's not like they haven't shouldered each of their burdens.

The roster is indeed skewed bc some guys are indeed overpaid relative to their production... for example, you have in a the bench 15 million Tony, 10 Million Patty and 16 Million Pau. It doesn't look good, but to mention Kiwi there like he has been shouldering some burden this season is cliche. And he's an MVP candidate when healthy. MVP candidates always share a huge burden. that is what makes them standout. If Kiwi was healthy this team might be on pace for 60 wins again...

[TimDunkem]

it's not the reality when Kiwi hasn't been carrying the burden Tim. not all this season.

Lamarcus has, and a supporting cast of different guys each night.

Bc you don't know who is the one who will have the career night or pull through, you don't know how many minutes to play and lineups... and some nights no one can really step up... roleplayers will notoriously be inconsistent that is what makes them roleplayers... but it's not like they haven't shouldered each of their burdens.

The roster is indeed skewed bc some guys are indeed overpaid relative to their production... for example, you have in a the bench 15 million Tony, 10 Million Patty and 16 Million Pau. It doesn't look good, but to mention Kiwi there like he has been shouldering some burden this season is cliche. And he's an MVP candidate when healthy. MVP candidates always share a huge burden. that is what makes them standout. If Kiwi was healthy this team might be on pace for 60 wins again...

Perhaps I phrased my post wrong but, yes, I know Kawhi hasn't really played obviously. I was speaking in regards to roster construction and play style.

A Kawhi and LMA post-up/ISO game is only going to get you so far. There was the potential to improve and PATFO have stood pat. We can talk about the last WCF all we want, and howtweaking the roster and/or play style is unnecessary but I disagree. There's always room to improve, imo.

[Ice009]

At this point, I really don't want to see some story come out on how the Spurs were close to trading for someone, but didn't pull the trigger for one reason or another (that reason probably being to keep the culture intact).

[UZER]

At this point, I really don't want to see some story come out on how the Spurs were close to trading for someone, but didn't pull the trigger for one reason or another (that reason probably being to keep the culture intact).

Dude, you're going to see that exact story.

[acoelho1]

Only players I'm concerned about is is a healthy Kawhi and Rudy. We can be an elite team with those 2 back in the fold and good enough to beat GSW.

[Ice009]

Only players I'm concerned about is is a healthy Kawhi and Rudy. We can be an elite team with those 2 back in the fold and good enough to beat GSW.

LOL, yeah OK. We may have a small chance of winning a game or two against them if Kawhi and Rudy are healthy and we even get that far, but you really think they can win a series against them with this roster? or are you just talking about winning one regular season game against them?

[acoelho1]

Just like Detroit could never beat Shaq/Kobe's Lakers or Spurs beating Miami. Let everyone get healthy and we'll see. I still like our chances given that we would have the best player on the floor.

[DAF86]

Just like Detroit could never beat Shaq/Kobe's Lakers or Spurs beating Miami. Let everyone get healthy and we'll see. I still like our chances given that we would have the best player on the floor.

Dude, you are remembering it wrong. The vast majority of the people had the Spurs as favourites over the Heat in '14.

[tholdren]

I find it fascinating how some people utilize and back up their opinions using advanced metrics ( plus/minus, drpm, orpm, or On/Off points per/100 possessions, ect) for all players they're assessing.

But when someone brings up Murrays' advanced metrics they don't want to except those facts.

Accept... murray sucks, no exception, accept it