*** Official Israel vs Hamas war #13783478343 thread ***

[hater]

Hater thinks that tweet is pro-hamas. :lol

And you think your dad is pro-homos :lmao

Hes not. Hes embarrased of u :lmao

[Ef-man]

And you think your dad is pro-homos :lmao

Hes not. Hes embarrased of u :lmao

You actually thought he was pro-hamas! :lmao

[hater]

You actually thought he was pro-hamas! :lmao

And you thought he was pro-homos :lmao

[hater]

Shits getting real

Netanazi and co now bombng the West bank.

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1725622471070499264

In 2 weeks we will have most likely one of the following:

Netannazi is outed

Regional war with potential of major war

[Winehole23]

What's happening in Jerusalem and the West Bank is underemphasized. Armed settlers are stealing people's homes and land.
(http://https://x.com/DalrympleWill/status/1725617513596100981?s=20)
As for what's happening to Palestinian and Israeli Christians, almost total radio silence. I guess actual Christians take a back seat to charismatic Christianity's hard on for the end times.

1725617513596100981

[Winehole23]

Ronald Reagan was to the *left* (http://https://x.com/karpmj/status/1725712763098472532?s=20) of Joe Biden back then. Still is, in a way.

1725712763098472532

[Thread]

Shits getting real

Netanazi and co now bombng the West bank.

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1725622471070499264

In 2 weeks we will have most likely one of the following:

Netannazi is outed

Regional war with potential of major war

3. Yahoo & Biden receive the Nobel Peace Prize together.

[FrostKing]

Netanyahu's father was born in Warsaw

A number of Israeli leadership has direct ties to Europe. Especially the ones from Poland, came from a time when we were fighting for our ability to exist & wave our flag. They learned from the best.

Ultimately Israeli society is more Western. Thus I as an European am subtly bias. I agree the bombing should slow and Israeli's should go door to door if they feel that strongly bout defeating Hamas.

Genocide is debunked. Gaza population is steadily increasing since the 1960s and multiplying from 2000 to 2040. Gaza is majority children demographic.

But Israeli population is growing even more...


My dream: Arab Worlds lukewarm response to Palestinian refugees should send a message that they are being used as pawns. I think Israelis & Palestinians can once again live together in peace and both benefit from Western titty haha. Bottomline the West supports Israel but for reasons that can change and should.

[hater]

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1725621122861760683

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

So much winnnnning


https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1725870513451315414

[Thread]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

So much winnnnning


https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1725870513451315414

hater

[Winehole23]

sure looks like ethnic cleansing

1725853789234630930

[boutons_deux]

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/biden-brokers-tentative-deal-between-israel-and-hamas-that-would-free-hostages-halt-conflict


Biden Brokers Tentative Deal Between Israel and Hamas That Would Free Hostages, Halt Conflict

[Thread]

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/biden-brokers-tentative-deal-between-israel-and-hamas-that-would-free-hostages-halt-conflict


Biden Brokers Tentative Deal Between Israel and Hamas That Would Free Hostages, Halt Conflict

He'll be canonized!!!

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1726036998530506941?t

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1725882938036744251?t

Fuckers.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1726036998530506941?t

Hey, did you ever update your fake news about their shutting down the streets in Austin or are you just that big a pussy?

[Ef-man]

Hey, did you ever update your fake news about their shutting down the streets in Austin or are you just that big a pussy?

Violent protest?

All I see is police pushing people around so the answer is: Qchrisy is a big pussy!

[hater]

They killed their own people and blamed it on Hamas

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1725970794155536440


https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1722514874452877492


RIP

Those poor civilians.

[Ef-man]

That hamas guy shooting his own people

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1726041232038633561

[hater]

https://x.com/Shahzad35888516/status/1726199322210136160

[hater]

https://x.com/ZEUS_PSF/status/1726239201879077363

[ElNono]

https://x.com/Shahzad35888516/status/1726199322210136160

Israel Air Force commander threatens to bomb Arab countries

Israeli Air Force Commander Tomer Bar has stated that Tel Aviv had plans to launch attacks in Yemen.

Bar shared that the Air Force, as a strategic arm of Tel Aviv, is ready and acting across the Middle East in every required arena and place, according to what the official Israel Broadcasting Authority reported.

The Israeli military official’s statements came days after the Yemeni armed forces affiliated with the Houthi Ansar Allah group announced on Tuesday evening the launch of a batch of ballistic missiles at various Israeli targets, including sensitive targets in the Eilat region.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231118-israel-air-force-commander-threatens-to-bomb-arab-countries/

lmao Yemen Houtis... play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Israel Air Force commander threatens to bomb Arab countries

Israeli Air Force Commander Tomer Bar has stated that Tel Aviv had plans to launch attacks in Yemen.

Bar shared that the Air Force, as a strategic arm of Tel Aviv, is ready and acting across the Middle East in every required arena and place, according to what the official Israel Broadcasting Authority reported.

The Israeli military official’s statements came days after the Yemeni armed forces affiliated with the Houthi Ansar Allah group announced on Tuesday evening the launch of a batch of ballistic missiles at various Israeli targets, including sensitive targets in the Eilat region.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231118-israel-air-force-commander-threatens-to-bomb-arab-countries/

lmao Yemen Houtis... play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Another Iranian proxy. The Saudis will be cheering them on.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_VtXy2W0AAPdEZ?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_YJ3z3WQAAaza8?format=jpg&name=small

[Thread]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_YJ3z3WQAAaza8?format=jpg&name=small

Yahoo swore on the Holocaust that he was gonna daisy cutter every single building. What happened, Winester?

[Ghazi]

Hezbollah pirooz ast, Israel nabud ast

[Thread]

Hezbollah pirooz ast, Israel nabud ast

Translated:::A Jew & a Gentile don't stand a Chinaman's chance.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/ZEUS_PSF/status/1726239201879077363

God damn, when everyone thought ducks was the dumbest poster on ST, in comes hater with the most gullible rube post of the year!

“It is official!”

Japan's top government spokesperson on Monday confirmed the capture of the Nippon Yusen-operated ship Galaxy Leader, adding that Japan was appealing to the Houthis while seeking the help of Saudi, Omani and Iranian authorities to work toward the swift release of the vessel and its crew.

[hater]

Modafucka Stepping Up

:tu

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1726985632650826146

[Thread]

Modafucka Stepping Up

:tu

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1726985632650826146

Lav

[ChumpDumper]

Modafucka Stepping Up

:tu

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1726985632650826146

:lol where was Russia the last 30 years?

Oh yeah, invading other countries....

[Thread]

:lol where was Russia the last 30 years?

Oh yeah, invading other countries....

Putin was dancing in the White House with broad ass Hillary. tee, hee.

[hater]

Putin was dancing in the White House with broad ass Hillary. tee, hee.

:lmao

[hater]

Lav

:tu

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1727058676077175286?t

[daboom1]

Lav

[hater]

https://x.com/CensoredMen/status/1727085228236447818

[hater]

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1727044721548333538

[ElNono]

Modafucka Stepping Up

:tu

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1726985632650826146

:lmao Baghdad Lavrov... basically, they're gonna talk out of their asses

[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/broseph_stalin/status/1727256647163314238

[hater]

:lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1727230815875326238

[hater]

:lol

https://x.com/blackintheempir/status/1726969431434400047

[hater]

"Its Russias sacred duty to help civilians in Gaza. Its a very important and noble humanitarian mission we must do." - Not Genocide Joe

https://x.com/TovarichDelSur/status/1727288813255270836

https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1727314972894695658

[hater]

:lmao Baghdad Lavrov... basically, they're gonna talk out of their asses

Russia already sentbhundreds of tons of aid to Gaza and hosted peace meetings.

What has El Salvador done, niglet? :lmao :lmao.:lmao

[Thread]

Russia already sentbhundreds of tons of aid to Gaza and hosted peace meetings.

What has El Salvador done, niglet? :lmao :lmao.:lmao

Christ, we wouldn't even know this cept for you, hater.

Russia has to be the boogeyman come hell, or, high water. UNLESS we deem it necessary to permit them to come in from the cold. Then as soon as we're done with 'em? "Coffee break over, back on your fuckin' Russian heads."

america is a conscienceless, piss pot nationPERIOD

[Winehole23]

big domestic sacrifices have been imposed


On 6 November, the Financial Times (https://www.ft.com/content/77d7ff6b-85f7-40ba-babe-ed82a3e8208f) published an extraordinary investigation tracking the devastating economic toll of Israel's war on Gaza - its impact reverberating across personal finances, job markets, businesses, industries, and the Israeli government itself.

The FT reports that the war has disrupted and ravaged “thousands” of companies, many teetering on the brink of collapse, with entire sectors plunged into an unprecedented crisis.

Data cited from Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics reveals a bleak reality – one in three businesses have either shuttered or are operating at 20 percent capacity since Operation Al-Aqsa Flood (https://new.thecradle.co/articles/palestinian-islamic-jihad-al-aqsa-flood-was-a-preemptive-strike-against-the-enemy) commenced on 7 October and punched a hole in Israeli national confidence.

More than half of businesses face revenue losses surpassing the 50 percent mark. The southern regions, closest to Gaza, bear the brunt, with two-thirds of businesses either closed or functioning “to a minimum.”

Adding to the crisis, Israel's Labour ministry reports that 764,000 citizens, close to a fifth of Israel's workforce, are jobless due to evacuations, school closures mandating childcare responsibilities, or reserve duty call-ups.
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/blowback-the-gaza-wars-massive-toll-on-israels-economy

[Winehole23]

On Monday, Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-12/israel-s-hamas-war-budget-leaves-netanyahu-caught-between-markets-and-politics) put numbers to the economic impact of Tel Aviv's military belligerence: The Gaza war has cost the Israeli economy almost $8 billion to date, with a further $260 million in losses incurred with every day that passes.

[hater]

Yeah Col Macgregor was saying the toll on Israeli economy is not sustainable.

He doesn not believe USA will pay Israeli bills forever

Seems Israel has taken up a few loans with very high interests too.

No wonder they want to genocide palestine ASAP as they know their current economic model is not sustainable.

Macgregor believes Israel is done sooner or later. Regardless

[hater]

Yeah Col Macgregor was saying the toll on Israeli economy is not sustainable.

He doesn not believe USA will pay Israeli bills forever

Seems Israel has taken up a few loans with very high interests too.

No wonder they want to genocide palestine ASAP as they know their current economic model is not sustainable.

Macgregor believes Israel is done sooner or later. Regardless

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1727044721548333538

[Winehole23]

Official U.N. figures (https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/09/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-11-september-2023) from early September note that Russian attacks killed slightly fewer than 10,000 civilians since February 2022, and injured just above 17,500. Israel has so far killed (https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-38) more than 11,000 Palestinians, wounding nearly 30,000. It is important that Biden described Russia’s attack on Ukraine as “genocide” on April 12, 2022, commenting (https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/biden-iowa-genocide/index.html) that “we’ll let the lawyers decide, internationally, whether or not it qualifies, but it sure seems that way to me.”https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-11-19/israel-hostages-gaza-bombing-civilians-genocide-holocaust-studies

[Winehole23]

...the roots of the historical struggle against antisemitism before the creation of Israel in 1948. It was a struggle that aimed to protect a powerless group from powerful states, not to defend a powerful state in its attack against a powerless group. It was a struggle for a people to live in dignity in a society where everyone’s humanity is recognized, not to legitimize a state where leaders, politicians and TV anchors call openly to wipe out places and people.


Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies and endowed professor in the study of modern genocide at Stockton University in New Jersey.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah Col Macgregor was saying the toll on Israeli economy is not sustainable.

He doesn not believe USA will pay Israeli bills forever

Seems Israel has taken up a few loans with very high interests too.

No wonder they want to genocide palestine ASAP as they know their current economic model is not sustainable.

Macgregor believes Israel is done sooner or later. Regardless

He also said the Ukraine war would be over in 5-10 days when you said 3-5 days.

[Winehole23]

the humanitarian pause, netted out, may represent a setback in the information war for the US and Israel


And there was some concern in the administration about an unintended consequence of the pause: that it would allow journalists broader access to Gaza and the opportunity to further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel.https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/21/biden-hostage-israel-hamas-war-00128351

[hater]

He also said the Ukraine war would be over in 5-10 days when you said 3-5 days.

He didnt

Fake news from dumpster again smh

[hater]

the humanitarian pause, netted out, may represent a setback in the information war for the US and Israel

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/21/biden-hostage-israel-hamas-war-00128351

Genocide Joe

[Thread]

the humanitarian pause, netted out, may represent a setback in the information war for the US and Israel

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/21/biden-hostage-israel-hamas-war-00128351

Please. The Biden/US after fleeing Afghanistan with those 13 American children in the back of the cargo plane re-learned the principles & manipulations of the aforementioned "information war" and have it down to an exact science. Israel? After The Holocaust they're peerless in said "information war." Those old Jews hopping into limed pits before being head shot weren't a waste after all.

#1 Israel
#2 U.S.

[ChumpDumper]

He didnt

Fake news from dumpster again smh
"Well, the end of this phase is still a few days away. The first five days, Russian forces I think, frankly, were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So I would say another 10 days, this should be completely over."

--Douglas Macgregor on March 4, 2022

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-forces-were-too-gentle-on-ukraine-says-former-trump-official-who-calls-zelensky-a-puppet/

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6299630074001#sp=show-clips

:lmao fellater

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"Well, the end of this phase is still a few days away. The first five days, Russian forces I think, frankly, were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So I would say another 10 days, this should be completely over."

--Douglas Macgregor on March 4, 2022

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-forces-were-too-gentle-on-ukraine-says-former-trump-official-who-calls-zelensky-a-puppet/

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6299630074001#sp=show-clips

:lmao fellater

At least they've held up to 20% for like a lot a years, daddy.

[Ef-man]

"Well, the end of this phase is still a few days away. The first five days, Russian forces I think, frankly, were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So I would say another 10 days, this should be completely over."

--Douglas Macgregor on March 4, 2022

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-forces-were-too-gentle-on-ukraine-says-former-trump-official-who-calls-zelensky-a-puppet/

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6299630074001#sp=show-clips

:lmao fellater

Who said opposites attract?

Hater loves and knows how to find low iq losers :lol

[hater]

"Well, the end of this phase is still a few days away. The first five days, Russian forces I think, frankly, were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So I would say another 10 days, this should be completely over."

--Douglas Macgregor on March 4, 2022

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-forces-were-too-gentle-on-ukraine-says-former-trump-official-who-calls-zelensky-a-puppet/

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6299630074001#sp=show-clips

:lmao fellater

"phase"

doesnt say anything about Ukraine being conquered :lmao

Dumpster :lol

[Ef-man]

"phase"

doesnt say anything about Ukraine being conquered :lmao

Dumpster :lol

What part of “completely over” did you not understand?

Russian offensive in north is “completely over,” in case you did not know. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

"phase"

doesnt say anything about Ukraine being conquered :lmao

Dumpster :lol
"The war is really over for the Ukrainians."


--Douglas Macgregor in March 2022

"We are in the final phase of this conflict."

--Douglas Macgregor in May 2022

Are we still in the final phase, fellater?

[MultiTroll]

Chump serving up multiple STFU sandwiches to hater. :lol
Happy Nov 22nd hater. Thoughful of Chump to share.


"The war is really over for the Ukrainians."


--Douglas Macgregor in March 2022

"We are in the final phase of this conflict."

--Douglas Macgregor in May 2022

Are we still in the final phase, fellater?

[Winehole23]

clicktivism pays (http://https://x.com/stevanzetti/status/1727465788003565677?s=20)

the worse the information, the better

1727465788003565677

[Ef-man]

Chump serving up multiple STFU sandwiches to hater. :lol
Happy Nov 22nd hater. Thoughful of Chump to share.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[hater]

"The war is really over for the Ukrainians."


--Douglas Macgregor in March 2022

"We are in the final phase of this conflict."

--Douglas Macgregor in May 2022

Are we still in the final phase, fellater?

Doug is right :tu


:lmao chimpanzee :lol

[Ef-man]

Doug is right :tu


:lmao chimpanzee :lol

Day 634 of hater’s 3-5 day SMO. :lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

Day 634 of hater’s 3-5 day SMO. :lmao
:lol He didn't say only one 3-5 day SMO!

[ElNono]

Russia already sentbhundreds of tons of aid to Gaza and hosted peace meetings.

What has El Salvador done, niglet? :lmao :lmao.:lmao

:lmao the current truce was negotiated by the US

:lmao nobody takes Russia seriously

:lmao Baghdad Lavrov

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:lmao the current truce was negotiated by the US

:lmao nobody takes Russia seriously

:lmao Baghdad Lavrov

Cept Hussein..."Wait till after the election then I'll give ya good deal."

[hater]

Cept Hussein..."Wait till after the election then I'll give ya good deal."

:lmao

Micdrop.gif


Another salvadorian obliterated :lol

[ElNono]

:lmao

Micdrop.gif

Another salvadorian obliterated :lol


:lmao turned into a hype man after this...



"The war is really over for the Ukrainians."


--Douglas Macgregor in March 2022

"We are in the final phase of this conflict."

--Douglas Macgregor in May 2022

Are we still in the final phase, fellater?


Doug is right :tu

:lmao chimpanzee :lol

Batting .000 ITT too lmao

[hater]

Cept Hussein..."Wait till after the election then I'll give ya good deal."

Thread 3 Salvadorians 0

:lmao

[ElNono]

Who? This is what I see here...

https://snipboard.io/tbIJN1.jpg

Nothing of value was lost :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ef-man]

Who? This is what I see here...

https://snipboard.io/tbIJN1.jpg

Nothing of value was lost :lmao:lmao:lmao

Sad to see MAGAs struggling three years after Ole Joe schlonged Yam Tits.

But tbh, the ST MAGAs have not had anyone to rally around since derp went full derp and got banned.

The blue ST MAGA faggot santas need to come to terms.

[hater]

Thread 3 Salvadorians 0

:lmao

Stings dont it

:lmao

[hater]

Cept Hussein..."Wait till after the election then I'll give ya good deal."

El Salvadooooor :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You can always tell when hater is hurting.

[ElNono]

Sad to see MAGAs struggling three years after Ole Joe schlonged Yam Tits.

But tbh, the ST MAGAs have not had anyone to rally around since derp went full derp and got banned.

The blue ST MAGA faggot santas need to come to terms.

That left an indelible mark, tbh... not sure surgery can fix that butthurt :lol

[Thread]

You can always tell when hater is hurting.

You know everything about everybody, Dumper.

[Thread]

That left an indelible mark, tbh... not sure surgery can fix that butthurt :lol

El's motto:::If you can't beat 'em---get 'em thrown out.

[Ef-man]

You can always tell when hater is hurting.

Hater’s multiple denial posts; derp would be proud. :lol

[Thread]

Hater’s multiple denial posts; derp would be proud. :lol


Effy's motto:::If you can't beat 'em---get 'em thrown out.

[FrostKing]

Sad to see MAGAs struggling three years after Ole Joe schlonged Yam Tits.

But tbh, the ST MAGAs have not had anyone to rally around since derp went full derp and got banned.

The blue ST MAGA faggot santas need to come to terms.
https://i.ibb.co/qWN5tfT/Screenshot-20231123-174132-Chrome.png

Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Italy and Germany. All on board now. Only a matter of time USA adapts with big brother.

[Winehole23]

You can always tell when hater is hurting.emoji city

[ElNono]

https://i.ibb.co/qWN5tfT/Screenshot-20231123-174132-Chrome.png

Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Italy and Germany. All on board now. Only a matter of time USA adapts with big brother.

We tried that, it didn't work. Plus, look at all those countries you listed. They ain't stupid, they all support Ukraine and continue to be in bed with big daddy USA.

[hater]

Im hurting.

:lmao what a fucking pussy :lol

[hater]

https://i.ibb.co/qWN5tfT/Screenshot-20231123-174132-Chrome.png

Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Italy and Germany. All on board now. Only a matter of time USA adapts with big brother.

Yup

Ce la vi

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_lzMNybgAA32w7?format=jpg&name=900x900

[FrostKing]

We tried that, it didn't work. Plus, look at all those countries you listed. They ain't stupid, they all support Ukraine and continue to be in bed with big daddy USA.
Tried it 80 years ago. I'm not a big cheerleader for this as I'm migrating to EU nation I'm not native to. I prefer harmony but this shift is needed. Success or not, it will naturally move back Left. But right now we need this. Government answered the call before the need of civilians to.

[ElNono]

Tried it 80 years ago. I'm not a big cheerleader for this as I'm migrating to EU nation I'm not native to. I prefer harmony but this shift is needed. Success or not, it will naturally move back Left. But right now we need this. Government answered the call before the need of civilians to.

We had it 3 years ago. Complete clusterfuck, incompetent, lots of people died, wrecked the economy. There's a reason nobody in their right mind wants to go back 80 years or whatever.

[FrostKing]

Many migrants view us as soft and only reason for Western Civilization success is our ancestors robbed them

Time to prove what we believe, stand for and practice is worthwhile.

[FrostKing]

We had it 3 years ago. Complete clusterfuck, incompetent, lots of people died, wrecked the economy. There's a reason nobody in their right mind wants to go back 80 years or whatever.
Ohhh you mean USA? Covid is pointless to reference. Every nation suffered the same.

I think Trump ultimately was disappointing but I think would be better today than what we've experienced under President Biden.

[FrostKing]

I prefer no Trump in 2024 election

[Ef-man]

https://i.ibb.co/qWN5tfT/Screenshot-20231123-174132-Chrome.png

Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Italy and Germany. All on board now. Only a matter of time USA adapts with big brother.

I have seen this show before.

They promise everything and when they fail to do even the most basic things, they get trounced out of office or blame someone else while begging for more time.

Look at Great Britain; Brexit was a one trick pony.

[ElNono]

Ohhh you mean USA? Covid is pointless to reference. Every nation suffered the same.

I think Trump ultimately was disappointing but I think would be better today than what we've experienced under President Biden.

Conservatism is simply a dead end. Pure nostalgia. The mix with populism and full blown demagoguery made it dangerous, because democracy isn't working for them anymore. In the US it's become a cult.

The only reason Old Joe has a shot at re-election is because he's likely running against that loser. But the options are a shit sandwich nonetheless.

[FrostKing]

I have seen this show before.

They promise everything and when they fail to do even the most basic things, they get trounced out of office or blame someone else while begging for more time.

Look at Great Britain; Brexit was a one trick pony.
That's politics. Fair.

They aren't promising everything just addressing 1 issue. Which might be the catalyst for more solutions.

[FrostKing]

Conservatism is simply a dead end. Pure nostalgia. The mix with populism and full blown demagoguery made it dangerous, because democracy isn't working for them anymore. In the US it's become a cult.

The only reason Old Joe has a shot at re-election is because he's likely running against that loser. But the options are a shit sandwich nonetheless.
Buddy, that's a big end of statement. The West is at its best a healthy balance while still being the global train for Liberalism. As an European I grew up Liberal and still view myself as such. Immigration isn't the biggest problem today but it's fair long term argument. "You" are in power we can't control that. But we can debate how society will look in the near future.

USA election/politics is not even worth debating right now.

[ElNono]

Buddy, that's a big end of statement. The West is at its best a healthy balance while still being the global train for Liberalism. As an European I grew up Liberal and still view myself as such. Immigration isn't the biggest problem today but it's fair long term argument. "You" are in power we can't control that. But we can debate how society will look in the near future.

USA election/politics is not even worth debating right now.

Every ultra conservative, ultra nationalist, far right government in Europe is borderline autocratic, if not full blown. See: Hungary, Turkey, Russia... the pretense of democracy in those places is just that, a pretense. Why would the US want to import that?

I'm not talking about pendulum swings, like Italy, which voted right wing but aligned pretty quickly with the west, because they know where their bread is buttered.

[hater]

Buddy, that's a big end of statement. The West is at its best a healthy balance while still being the global train for Liberalism. As an European I grew up Liberal and still view myself as such. Immigration isn't the biggest problem today but it's fair long term argument. "You" are in power we can't control that. But we can debate how society will look in the near future.

USA election/politics is not even worth debating right now.

:lmao

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Buddy, that's a big end of statement. The West is at its best a healthy balance while still being the global train for Liberalism. As an European I grew up Liberal and still view myself as such. Immigration isn't the biggest problem today but it's fair long term argument. "You" are in power we can't control that. But we can debate how society will look in the near future.

USA election/politics is not even worth debating right now.

Trump made President. That's why.

[Winehole23]

Years ago, I interviewed Ehud Barak and asked him, "What would happen if you were born Palestinian?" I asked. He gave me the only honest answer he could give: "I would join a terrorist organization."

JFQWU0DtbGA

[Winehole23]

Yesterday with daybreak, Roi was murdered. The quiet of a spring morning blinded him, and he did not see the stalkers of his soul on the furrow. Let us not hurl blame at the murderers. Why should we complain of their hatred for us? Eight years have they sat in the refugee camps of Gaza, and seen, with their own eyes, how we have made a homeland of the soil and the villages where they and their forebears once dwelt.

Not from the Arabs of Gaza must we demand the blood of Roi, but from ourselves. How our eyes are closed to the reality of our fate, unwilling to see the destiny of our generation in its full cruelty. Have we forgotten that this small band of youths, settled in Nahal Oz, carries on its shoulders the heavy gates of Gaza, beyond which hundreds of thousands of eyes and arms huddle together and pray for the onset of our weakness so that they may tear us to pieces — has this been forgotten? For we know that if the hope of our destruction is to perish, we must be, morning and evening, armed and ready.

A generation of settlement are we, and without the steel helmet and the maw of the cannon we shall not plant a tree, nor build a house. Our children shall not have lives to live if we do not dig shelters; and without the barbed wire fence and the machine gun, we shall not pave a path nor drill for water. The millions of Jews, annihilated without a land, peer out at us from the ashes of Israeli history and command us to settle and rebuild a land for our people. But beyond the furrow that marks the border, lies a surging sea of hatred and vengeance, yearning for the day that the tranquility blunts our alertness, for the day that we heed the ambassadors of conspiring hypocrisy, who call for us to lay down our arms.

It is to us that the blood of Roi calls from his shredded body. Although we have vowed a thousand vows that our blood will never again be shed in vain — yesterday we were once again seduced, brought to listen, to believe. Our reckoning with ourselves, we shall make today. We mustn’t flinch from the hatred that accompanies and fills the lives of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, who live around us and are waiting for the moment when their hands may claim our blood. We mustn’t avert our eyes, lest our hands be weakened. That is the decree of our generation. That is the choice of our lives — to be willing and armed, strong and unyielding, lest the sword be knocked from our fists, and our lives severed.

Roi Rotberg, the thin blond lad who left Tel Aviv in order to build his home alongside the gates of Gaza, to serve as our wall. Roi — the light in his heart blinded his eyes and he saw not the flash of the blade. The longing for peace deafened his ears and he heard not the sound of the coiled murderers. The gates of Gaza were too heavy for his shoulders, and they crushed him.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/when-moshe-dayan-delivered-the-defining-speech-of-zionism/

[ChumpDumper]

I prefer no Trump in 2024 election

But you will vote for Trump

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But you will vote for Trump

You couldn't stop me with silver bullets & a wooden stake.

[hater]

You couldn't stop me with silver bullets & a wooden stake.

:lol micdrop.gif

[hater]

:lol

https://x.com/NABEELRAJAB/status/1727401113014382897

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1728090283185766625

[daboom1]

Cept Hussein..."Wait till after the election then I'll give ya good deal."

gotheem

[daboom1]

:lmao

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Another salvadorian obliterated :lol

easy pickins' tbh

[FrostKing]

Every ultra conservative, ultra nationalist, far right government in Europe is borderline autocratic, if not full blown. See: Hungary, Turkey, Russia... the pretense of democracy in those places is just that, a pretense. Why would the US want to import that?

I'm not talking about pendulum swings, like Italy, which voted right wing but aligned pretty quickly with the west, because they know where their bread is buttered.
I agree with what you're saying. Ideally USA deserves a hard resett back to the basics of who we are and what we need. Americans as society but especially people lack the foundations & basics.

Migrants from other parts of the World struggle to connect because we fail to focus on the basics

[FrostKing]

America is great but lacking the foundation. Society & household. Alot of our fellow Americans get lost in the flashing lights & glory.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I see WC is trying to pretend he is not from the US. I really like his Darrin style "I am a real liberal" attempt for levity when all it does is make him appear even creepier than normal. National socialist maybe and not from EU.

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America is great but lacking the foundation. Society & household. Alot of our fellow Americans get lost in the flashing lights & glory.

Bingo. Symbolism over substance.

[ElNono]

I agree with what you're saying. Ideally USA deserves a hard resett back to the basics of who we are and what we need. Americans as society but especially people lack the foundations & basics.

Migrants from other parts of the World struggle to connect because we fail to focus on the basics


America is great but lacking the foundation. Society & household. Alot of our fellow Americans get lost in the flashing lights & glory.

What it needs is education. If there's one thing the populist demagogue right wing latched on is the poorly educated. They already had the rural, poor, white trash market cornered, and now double down with book banning and anti-science.

It's a losing battle long term though...

[Winehole23]

Seems odd that there are no pictures or tallies of dead combatants on both sides.

How many Hamas and IDF fighters have died so far?

[Thread]

What it needs is education. If there's one thing the populist demagogue right wing latched on is the poorly educated. They already had the rural, poor, white trash market cornered, and now double down with book banning and anti-science.

It's a losing battle long term though...

...all because Trump made President.

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Seems odd that there are no pictures or tallies of dead combatants on both sides.

How many Hamas and IDF fighters have died so far?


Same with Russia & Nazi occupied Ukraine. Death tallies is like (cause of death) in the "newspapers" now...about half the time there is nary attribution. Another few years and the only causation will be when foul play is involved.

[hater]

Seems odd that there are no pictures or tallies of dead combatants on both sides.

How many Hamas and IDF fighters have died so far?

Heard about 1000 hamas and 150 isras

[Winehole23]

in all likelihood, the massacre will resume next week

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in all likelihood, the massacre will resume next week

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"But, the Holocaust."

[hater]

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1728283935023796723

[Ef-man]

Ole Joe spoke with Qatari leaders to resolve previous delay in hostage exchange. How did it go? Hostage release is back on.

A group of hostages was seen leaving Gaza in a Red Cross convoy late Saturday night local time.

The Red Cross had earlier confirmed that it was headed to the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt with the hostages, according to the Israel Defense Forces.

Hamas said it had handed over 13 Israelis and seven foreign nationals to the organization, though Qatar and the IDF each said the number of released foreign nationals was only four.

[ElNono]

Ole Joe spoke with Qatari leaders to resolve previous delay in hostage exchange. How did it go? Hostage release is back on.

A group of hostages was seen leaving Gaza in a Red Cross convoy late Saturday night local time.

The Red Cross had earlier confirmed that it was headed to the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt with the hostages, according to the Israel Defense Forces.

Hamas said it had handed over 13 Israelis and seven foreign nationals to the organization, though Qatar and the IDF each said the number of released foreign nationals was only four.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N94AAOSwrT5hKLSy/s-l1600.jpg

[Ef-man]

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N94AAOSwrT5hKLSy/s-l1600.jpg

Nobel Peace Prize worthy material. :tu

[Winehole23]

Couldn't have been done without Qatar, tbh.

[velik_m]

in all likelihood, the massacre will resume next week

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https://twitter.com/2Russophobic4u/status/1728511323502207164

https://twitter.com/2Russophobic4u/status/1728468557376147572

[velik_m]

...

On April 10, the BBC reported that Israel estimated 150 Palestinians had died in Jenin, and Palestinians were saying the number was far higher.[65] That same day, Saeb Erekat, on a phone interview to CNN from Jericho, estimated that there were a total of 500 Palestinians killed during Operation Defensive Shield, this figure also including fatalities outside of the Jenin camp, in other areas of the West Bank.[66] On April 11, Ben Wedeman of CNN reported that Palestinians were reporting 500 dead, while international relief agencies were saying possibly as many as 200; he noted that his efforts to independently verify the claims had so far come to naught since people were being prevented from entering the camp by Israeli soldiers.[67]

On April 12, Brigadier-General Ron Kitri said on Army Radio that there were apparently hundreds of Palestinians killed in Jenin. He later retracted this statement.[68] Secretary-General of the Palestinian Authority, Ahmed Abdel Rahman, said that thousands of Palestinians had been killed and buried in mass graves, or lay under houses destroyed in Jenin and Nablus.[69] On April 13, Palestinian Information Minister, Yasser Abed Rabbo, accused Israel of killing 900 Palestinians in the camp and burying them in mass graves.[70] On April 14, Haaretz reported that the exact number of Palestinian dead was still unknown, but that the IDF placed the toll between 100 and 200.[50] On April 18, Zalman Shoval, adviser to Sharon, said that only about 65 bodies had been recovered, five of them civilians.[47] On April 30, Qadoura Mousa, director of the Fatah for the northern West Bank, said the number of dead was 56.[71]

Based on figures provided by the Jenin hospital and the IDF, the UN report placed the Palestinian death toll at 52 Palestinian, around half of whom were thought to be civilians.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jenin_(2002)

[Winehole23]

There's no doubt that reporting of casualties is difficult to verify and liable to propagandizing Motives to inflate or repress the reporting will always be there.

[Ef-man]

That Hamas guy is set to bend the knee, amirite qchrisy.

Hamas says it wants to extend its four-day truce with Israel, which has entered its third day and has now seen the release of three groups of Israeli hostages from Gaza and three groups of Palestinian prisoners and detainees from Israeli jails.

[Ef-man]

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1728914649645818118



https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N94AAOSwrT5hKLSy/s-l1600.jpg

[Winehole23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jenin_(2002)fwiw, IDF estimates it has killed ~2000 Hamas fighters to date. Subtract that from whatever figure you trust, what's the percentage of civilian deaths?

[HemisfairArena]

Israel got hosed by a 3-1 margin in hostage swaps,,,,,lmao,,,thats what they get for listening to the cryptkeeper,,,,

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fwiw, IDF estimates it has killed ~2000 Hamas fighters to date. Subtract that from whatever figure you trust, what's the percentage of civilian deaths?

CNN states twixt 0 & 1.2 percent.

[Winehole23]

lol no

[Winehole23]

"What percentage of total deaths are noncombatants?"

[HemisfairArena]

"What percentage of total deaths are noncombatants?"

who cares?,,,,arent you the same party that loves abortion?,,,,,,noncombatants in the womb,,,,,,

[Winehole23]

Another nonsequitur

[Winehole23]

Abortion is healthcare for nonviable pregnancies. Mothers are noncombatants too.

[HemisfairArena]

Another nonsequitur


It is what it is,,,,you dems love death when it suits you,,,,,,

[Winehole23]

It is what it is,,,,you dems love death when it suits you,,,,,,Not really, you're just dumb.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Puritan thinking makes you dumb. We have already tried the banning abortion thing before and women are more empowered now.

The GOP position is stupid on so many levels.

[Ef-man]

Almost like the Prince George (PG) County Police but the PG County Police shoots everyone and they do not take race or religious beliefs into consideration.


https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1729277653625020699

[Ef-man]

Next week Elon will say Israel must be destroyed.

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1729165708376916068

[daboom1]

Abortion is healthcare for nonviable pregnancies. Mothers are noncombatants too.

When you chop up your baby and throw it in the trash that technically makes someone a non-mother or demonspawn if you will.

[daboom1]

It is what it is,,,,you dems love death when it suits you,,,,,,

Verily.

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When you chop up your baby and throw it in the trash that technically makes someone a non-mother or demonspawn if you will.

Yep.

[Winehole23]

Tal al-Hawa, Gaza City


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAGSGNgXkAAbInr?format=jpg&name=medium

[hater]

:lmao :lmao

Captain and crew of hijacked Israeli ship partying hard with Yemeni Houthis :lmao :lol


https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1727716937373769756

[hater]

Next week Elon will say Israel must be destroyed.

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1729165708376916068

Meh

Melon will be melon

He tried to sell his Starlink for Gaza and humanitarian reasons. Bibi said Nyet :lmao

[hater]

https://x.com/SamParkerSenate/status/1729545199104516334

[hater]

:lmao Shitler Obliterated by a Jew :lmao

H4PckPdApIY

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao hater can't quit Hillary

[hater]

:wow

I_Sh-ERypMA

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:lmao hater can't quit Hillary

Me neither. tee, hee.

[hater]

Me neither. tee, hee.

:lmao

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao

https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1730012959517131117

[hater]

:lmao Jussie Smollettinsky :lol

https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1730624607839793421

[hater]

https://x.com/ashoswai/status/1730547364685902301

[hater]

Damn

Someone self immolated themselves for Palestine

Thats too much fool

So many buttons you can push

The one labeled self immolation should be the last damn one smh

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:lmao Jussie Smollettinsky :lol

https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1730624607839793421

The fuck will get standing ovations going forward.

[Ef-man]

Ole Joe, prawk prawk, Yam Tits didn’t know, prawk, not on a tilt, not on a tilt, prawk

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Ole Joe, prawk prawk, Yam Tits didn’t know, prawk, not on a tilt, not on a tilt, prawk


The fuck will get standing ovations going forward.

[Winehole23]

Gen. Austin is right. (http://https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1731411450143396200?s=20)Supposing Israel manages somehow to destroy Hamas, the barbaric destruction of Gaza will breed a new one.

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[Thread]

Gen. Austin is right. (http://https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1731411450143396200?s=20)Supposing Israel manages somehow to destroy Hamas, the barbaric destruction of Gaza will breed a new one.

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Winester, angel puss, we've only got so many GD Nobel Peace Prizes to go around. Maybe they'll be like the NCAA and let 16 teams in, setting the stage for Nobel to issue like umpteen Peace Prizes.

Biden will get 1.
Yahoo will get 1.
Jane Fonda will get 1.
This Lloyd will get 1.
Minnesota Floyd will get 1, thank Christ, posthumously, aka as dead as a fuckin' door nail, the rock headed fuck.
Blinks will get 1.
AOC will get 1 just to shut her cocksucker up for 3 minutes as she strives every morning to look White. tee, hee.
Hussein, sure, will get 1 and share it with Oprah as they get ready to round up that 95% Black voter block come November..."If I had a son, instead of 2 daughters who missed nary a branch fallin' down the ugly tree I'd be one happy Black man."

[lefty]

:lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao

https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1730012959517131117
My nikkas
Those dudes are as nice as the clowns that allowed Tony Stark to leave that cave unscathed :lol

[hater]

https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1730012959517131117

[Winehole23]

Imagine :

2,400,000 Americans killed
6,320,000 Americans wounded
64,800,000 homes destroyed
284,700,000 Americans displaced

In roughly two months, proportional to population, this is roughly what has already happened in Gaza.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Imagine :

2,400,000 Americans killed
6,320,000 Americans wounded
64,800,000 homes destroyed
284,700,000 Americans displaced

In roughly two months, proportional to population, this is roughly what has already happened in Gaza.

2.4m dead in 2 months? Calling bullshit.

[Thread]

Imagine :

2,400,000 Americans killed
6,320,000 Americans wounded
64,800,000 homes destroyed
284,700,000 Americans displaced

In roughly two months, proportional to population, this is roughly what has already happened in Gaza.

...all with Biden's seal of approval.

[Winehole23]

2.4m dead in 2 months? Calling bullshit.~20,000 deaths represents what percentage of the population of Gaza? Proportionally, how many people would that be in the US?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

~20,000 deaths represents what percentage of the population of Gaza? Proportionally, how many people would that be in the US?

I see. Cooking stats nonsensically to aggrandize a number that doesn't look significant enough on its own.

We freaked out over 5000 people and I am sure that Gazans will almost to a man be affected but what does that have to do with how an objective observer evaluate the situation?

If anything that bridge has already crossed. I also do not think culpability is remotely cut and dry.

[hater]

I see. Cooking stats nonsensically to aggrandize a number that doesn't look significant enough on its own.

We freaked out over 5000 people and I am sure that Gazans will almost to a man be affected but what does that have to do with how an objective observer evaluate the situation?

If anything that bridge has already crossed. I also do not think culpability is remotely cut and dry.

"5000 dead children in 2 months is not significant"

:lmao todays genocidal retards :lmao :lol :lmao

[Winehole23]

I see. Cooking stats nonsensically to aggrandize a number that doesn't look significant enough on its own.

We freaked out over 5000 people and I am sure that Gazans will almost to a man be affected but what does that have to do with how an objective observer evaluate the situation?

If anything that bridge has already crossed. I also do not think culpability is remotely cut and dry.helping people to understand the scale of destruction and death seems to be a fundamental level of evaluation to me

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helping people to understand the scale of destruction and death seems to be a fundamental level of evaluation to me

You're beating your head against a brick wall erected by CNN, MSNBC, FOX, et al. Within 48 hours of the Japanese sneak att...the Gaza sneak attack on the Jews decisions were made by Biden thru the State Dept., about how it would go from that precise time till forever and a day. They'll be nary deviation of even a millimeter. NOTHING!

Horseshit will abidePERIOD

[FuzzyLumpkins]

helping people to understand the scale of destruction and death seems to be a fundamental level of evaluation to me

Not really. You are making the scale of destruction 100s of times what it actually is.

Gaza is tiny.

[hater]

What an epic meltdown :lmao :lol

Netannazi :lmao

"You heard of da Rrrape?" :lmao

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1732168460107403347

[Winehole23]

Not really. You are making the scale of destruction 100s of times what it actually is.

Gaza is tiny.proportionally, the figures roughly line up.

[Winehole23]

80% displacement of the total population of a place is drastic. So is 1% war mortality over 2 months.

[Winehole23]

Israel is making Gaza uninhabitable for those displaced. Most will have no homes to return to, the places they were told were safe are being bombed, and in the meantime, the whole population is being denied clean water, fuel and food.

Schools, hospitals, universities, places of worship and government buildings -- civil society in total -- are being demolished.

It's de facto collective punishment and ethnic cleansing. Totally disproportionate, indiscriminate and barbaric.

Israel is also supporting/turning a blind eye to settler pogroms and violent disposessions in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

All of this is strategically short-sighted. None of it will make Israel, or Jews, safer in the medium to long term. Quite the opposite, imho.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

proportionally, the figures roughly line up.

Sure but in the reality is that Gaza is tiny and regardless of the escalation the destruction will never reach that level. Gaza is fucked regardless of outcome given the way both sides are handling it.

[Winehole23]

tl;dr

Resettle the entire population of Gaza, take all the land.

(Say anonymous sources in Sheldon Adelson's newspaper.)


A new initiative submitted to the US Congress calls for conditioning American aid to Arab countries on their willingness to receive refugees from Gaza, Israel Hayom has learned. https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/11/29/senior-us-lawmakers-review-plan-that-conditions-aid-on-arab-countries-receiving-gazans/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Israel is making Gaza uninhabitable for those displaced. Most will have no homes to return to, the places they were told were safe are being bombed, and in the meantime, the whole population is being denied clean water, fuel and food.

Schools, hospitals, universities, places of worship and government buildings -- civil society in total -- are being demolished.

It's de facto collective punishment and ethnic cleansing. Totally disproportionate, indiscriminate and barbaric.

Israel is also supporting/turning a blind eye to settler pogroms and violent disposessions in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

All of this is strategically short-sighted. None of it will make Israel, or Jews, safer in the medium to long term. Quite the opposite, imho.

I like how you do not include Hamas, their actions which are continuous to this day, and the role they play.

I am sure that the Israeli's are sitting in their meeting rooms Himler/Johnson style planning on the Trail of Tears style destruction of the Palestinian people.

As for the geopolitical situation, you are talking like this is still 1975. The Arabs are silent on this issue for a reason. Hamas is an Iranian proxy. The Saudis, Jordanians, and Egyptians all share the same issue.

If anything, they are on Israel's side in all this. The Egyptians are letting relief columns in but they are allowing ZERO refugees. Same for the rest of the Arab countries. Their silence is deafening to me.

This is a sign of a larger trend and a reason why Hamas freaked out. Sunni nations have been normalizing relations with Israel for the past couple of decades.

The only issue with Israeli interests is American leftist cancel culture responding to them like they did with police brutality and defund the police. Reactionary childishness.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

tl;dr

Resettle the entire population of Gaza, take all the land.

(Say anonymous sources in Sheldon Adelson's newspaper.)

https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/11/29/senior-us-lawmakers-review-plan-that-conditions-aid-on-arab-countries-receiving-gazans/

Now you want it both ways. Are you concerned about the humanitarian situation for the Gazan people or are you more interested in your Jewish Sheldon Anderson congressional conspiracy to steal land?

Thhe reason I ask is because the very next paragraph after the one you quoted states:


"Israel is trying to keep civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip as low as possible, but Hamas is not allowing the refugees to leave and Egypt is unwilling to open its borders," the plan's authors write in the opening paragraph. They later go on to explain that "the only moral solution is to ensure that Egypt opens its borders and allows for the refugees to flee from the tyrant control of Hamas. The US Government provides Egypt with approximately $1.3 billion in foreign aid, and these funds can be allocated to the refugees from Gaza who will be allowed into Egypt."

They claim to have your interests.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Now you want it both ways. Are you concerned about the humanitarian situation for the Gazan people or are you more interested in your Jewish Sheldon Anderson congressional conspiracy to steal land?

Thhe reason I ask is because the very next paragraph after the one you quoted states:



They claim to have your interests.It's not my conspiracy theory, it's a straight up article in Israel Hayom.

I don't see any contradiction between posting topically relevant articles and drawing attention to the annihilation of Gaza and the indiscriminate killing and displacement of its people.

Not sure what you infer my interests to be, but for sure I don't agree that carpet bombing and forcibly resettling ~2m people counts as humanitarian aid.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not my conspiracy theory, it's a straight up article in Israel Hayom.

I don't see any contradiction between posting topically relevant articles and drawing attention to the annihilation of Gaza and the indiscriminate killing and displacement of its people.

Not sure what you infer my interests to be, but for sure I don't agree that carpet bombing and forcibly resettling ~2m people counts as humanitarian aid.

But as I pointed out the article doesn't state that. Quite the contrary as I quoted.

When the Israeli settlers start into Gaza let me know. Your insistence on conflating the issues is weird.

[Winehole23]

If you burn down your neighbors house and steal his land, his resettlement isn't a humanitarian outcome, it's the fruit of a crime.

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If you burn down your neighbors house and steal his land, his resettlement isn't a humanitarian outcome, it's the fruit of a crime.

He knows that, Winester.

[Winehole23]

But as I pointed out the article doesn't state that. Quite the contrary as I quoted.

When the Israeli settlers start into Gaza let me know. Your insistence on conflating the issues is weird.Look, all this is speculative, but the scale of the destruction of housing, civil society and productive land in Gaza would seem to preclude any sizable return of the displaced.

What do you think is going to happen?

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Look, all this is speculative, but the scale of the destruction of housing, civil society and productive land in Gaza would seem to preclude any sizable return of the displaced.

What do you think is going to happen?

...a brand new shitload of Hollywood movies about The Holocaust.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you burn down your neighbors house and steal his land, his resettlement isn't a humanitarian outcome, it's the fruit of a crime.

Again you gloss over the role of Hamas again. You cannot even consider it.

Gaza is tiny as we have discussed. Let refugees into Egypt, uncomplicate the human shield component of combat and most importantly make sure those refugees get food, water, and health care. Once Hamas has been deposed then to me the best thing is to help those people rebuild their homes.

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Again you gloss over the role of Hamas again. You cannot even consider it.

Gaza is tiny as we have discussed. Let refugees into Egypt, uncomplicate the human shield component of combat and most importantly make sure those refugees get food, water, and health care. Once Hamas has been deposed then to me the best thing is to help those people rebuild their homes.

...firstly though? Nobel Peace Prize Yahoo & Imbecile Joe up the wazoo.

[ChumpDumper]

Again you gloss over the role of Hamas again. You cannot even consider it.

Gaza is tiny as we have discussed. Let refugees into Egypt, uncomplicate the human shield component of combat and most importantly make sure those refugees get food, water, and health care. Once Hamas has been deposed then to me the best thing is to help those people rebuild their homes.

Makes one wonder why Netanyahu made moves to support Hamas before all this happened.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Look, all this is speculative, but the scale of the destruction of housing, civil society and productive land in Gaza would seem to preclude any sizable return of the displaced.

What do you think is going to happen?

It's different. Will the Israeli's allow their Sunni neighbors in setting up an administration? I don't know. If they do then there is a fair chance that the international groundswell of aid that is sure to come their way can actually help them rebuild.

I just know that having an Iranian proxy in control of a city state on their border is untenable. Look at what we did in response to 9/11. Lot more than 20k people or 100 sq mi of destruction we have seen here.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Makes one wonder why Netanyahu made moves to support Hamas before all this happened.

How did he do that?

[ChumpDumper]

How did he do that?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Either way, Netanyahu is unlikely to get elected again after this. His claim to fame was hostage rescue back in the 70s but he got caught with his pants down. The cherry is Brandon Ice Cream Eater brokering the ceasefire and a set of hostages that were released.

Then of course there is the million+ citizens understandably mass protesting his treatment of the judiciary.

Hopefully, he is kaput.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

That says that he brokered work visas for Gazans through Egypt. Walk me through how we get from there to the amphibious landings, coordinated strikes, and kidnapping network.

[Winehole23]

Again you gloss over the role of Hamas again. You cannot even consider it.Sure I can. Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.

Does that justify indiscriminate carpet bombing of civilians?


Gaza is tiny as we have discussed. Let refugees into Egypt, uncomplicate the human shield component of combat and most importantly make sure those refugees get food, water, and health care. Once Hamas has been deposed then to me the best thing is to help those people rebuild their homes."Let" the refugees into Egypt, then "let" them return en masse to a cratered out moonscape and "help them rebuild."

Who will be doing this "letting" and "rebuilding?"

I don't see Israel letting millions of Gazans back after getting them all out, let alone helping them rebuild, but I could be wrong.

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Sure I can. Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.

Does that justify indiscriminate carpet bombing of civilians?

"Let" the refugees into Egypt, then "let" them return en masse to a cratered out moonscape and "help them rebuild."

Who will be doing this "letting" and "rebuilding?"

I don't see Israel letting millions of Gazans back after getting them all out, let alone helping them rebuild, but I could be wrong.

...only if Biden says so and has CNN to back him 100%. He has CNN in his back pocketPERIOD

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sure I can. Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th.

Does that justify indiscriminate carpet bombing of civilians?

"Let" the refugees into Egypt, then "let" them return en masse to a cratered out moonscape and "help them rebuild."

Who will be doing this "letting" and "rebuilding?"

I don't see Israel letting millions of Gazans back after getting them all out, let alone helping them rebuild, but I could be wrong.

I already discussed a coalition including the Sunni states. There will be a power vacuum.

And yeah the Egyptians have national sovereignty and would need to consent to that happening. Let seemed an appropriate word choice.

[Winehole23]

I already discussed a coalition including the Sunni states. There will be a power vacuum.

And yeah the Egyptians have national sovereignty and would need to consent to that happening. Let seemed an appropriate word choice.Thanks for fleshing out what you meant. Sounds pie in the sky to me, but who knows what the hell will happen.

I notice you ducked a direct question, though. Do you think Hamas's Oct 7th attack justifies carpet bombing Gaza like Hamburg and Dresden?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Thanks for fleshing out what you meant. Sounds pie in the sky to me, but who knows what the hell will happen.

I notice you ducked a direct question, though. Do you think Hamas's Oct 7th attack justifies carpet bombing Gaza like Hamburg and Dresden?

I think that is a gross oversimplification with a gratuitous characterization baked into it's premise. I do not know the exact nature of the combat on the ground. I know that there is street to street fighting though for example.

So in answer your question, no I do not think that Dresden fire bombing is justified by any one thing. At the same time I do not think that the set of decisions that have taken place over the past couple of months that resulted said destruction are that oversimplified.

[ChumpDumper]

That says that he brokered work visas for Gazans through Egypt.
Year after year, successive Netanyahu cabinets approved moves that had the effect of easing pressure on Hamas: Israel agreed to periodic prisoner releases, the transfer of money from Qatar to pay public salaries in Gaza, improve infrastructure and, critics say, fund Hamas military operations.

The prime minister hoped to prevent any reconciliation between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, even when the two sides came close to rapprochement in 2018.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/26/netanyahu-hamas-israel-gaza/


Walk me through how we get from there to the amphibious landings, coordinated strikes, and kidnapping network.
Why would I walk you through something I never claimed?

Hamas existed and said they were going to do such things to destroy Israel. Netanyahu wanted to keep Hamas existing to prevent any unification of Palestinians under one governmental authority.

The face-eating leopard ate his face.

[Winehole23]

I think that is a gross oversimplification with a gratuitous characterization baked into it's premise. I do not know the exact nature of the combat on the ground. I know that there is street to street fighting though for example.

So in answer your question, no I do not think that Dresden fire bombing is justified by any one thing. At the same time I do not think that the set of decisions that have taken place over the past couple of months that resulted said destruction are that oversimplified.It's not that complicated. Netanyahu is pandering to the popular demand for bloody revenge and trying to make up for his own incompetence by wrecking Gaza. Beyond that, I don't think Netanyahu or the the war cabinet have any idea what they're going to do. Nor is it a given that they'll eliminate Hamas, either as a fighting force or an ideology.

[Ef-man]

Ma niga moon with Omnious warnings. If israel invades gaza (and chance of that is near 100%), its basically WW3 for sure.

"If Israel makes, as announced, a ground attack on Gaza, Hizbullah in Lebanon is likely to attack Israel. The U.S. has allegedly let Syria know (via France) that Damascus, and President Assad personally, would be attacked if that were to happen. This is a miscalculation. It is far from certain that Assad, or even Iran, has the means to hold Hizbullah back.

A U.S. attack on the government of Syria would bring Russia into the war. Iran would also respond which is exactly what some of the neocons want.

The war could easily escalate further from there."

- israel invades gaza
- lebanon attacks israel
- US hits Syria and kills Assad
- Iran and russia jump in

ce la vi

enjoy the weekend nigs :lol

Hater with his failed predictions. :lmao

How is everyone doing post WW3?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAraCSkXQAARhfg?format=jpg&name=large

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Year after year, successive Netanyahu cabinets approved moves that had the effect of easing pressure on Hamas: Israel agreed to periodic prisoner releases, the transfer of money from Qatar to pay public salaries in Gaza, improve infrastructure and, critics say, fund Hamas military operations.

The prime minister hoped to prevent any reconciliation between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, even when the two sides came close to rapprochement in 2018.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/26/netanyahu-hamas-israel-gaza/


Why would I walk you through something I never claimed?

Hamas existed and said they were going to do such things to destroy Israel. Netanyahu wanted to keep Hamas existing to prevent any unification of Palestinians under one governmental authority.

The face-eating leopard ate his face.

Okay so he was continuing the divide and conquer strategy. I thought you had a point in the broader conflict other than Netanyahu sucks which no one disagrees with.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not that complicated. Netanyahu is pandering to the popular demand for bloody revenge and trying to make up for his own incompetence by wrecking Gaza. Beyond that, I don't think Netanyahu or the the war cabinet have any idea what they're going to do. Nor is it a given that they'll eliminate Hamas, either as a fighting force or an ideology.

That is some interesting motivational analysis given nonexistent access. If you want to talk about the tactics and strategy as it as actually playing out then great. If you want to turn it into an unprovable soap opera then I don't know what to tell you.

[ChumpDumper]

Okay so he was continuing the divide and conquer strategy. I thought you had a point in the broader conflict other than Netanyahu sucks which no one disagrees with.

My point was exactly what I said. :lol continue your war on posters.

[Winehole23]

That is some interesting motivational analysis given nonexistent access. If you want to talk about the tactics and strategy as it as actually playing out then great. If you want to turn it into an unprovable soap opera then I don't know what to tell you.I was talking about the politics, but even so, it seems odd to exclude the political motivations/interests of Netanyahu and the war cabinet from discussion about the war.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My point was exactly what I said. :lol continue your war on posters.

You made an innuendo about Netanyahu's intentions. I asked what you meant.

As for your war, I like to argue. Sorry if that makes you feel under assault but I am on topic.

I respect wine. They do not get upset when challenged or hold a grudge.

[ChumpDumper]

You made an innuendo about Netanyahu's intentions. I asked what you meant.No. I made no innuendo. It's a simple matter of fact. You're welcome for the enlightenment.


As for your war, I like to argue. Sorry if that makes you feel under assault but I am on topic.

I respect wine. They do not get upset when challenged or hold a grudge.You hold multiple grudges and you fight for no reason whatsoever.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Makes one wonder why Netanyahu made moves to support Hamas before all this happened.

in·nu·en·do
an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

shall I explain how the term applies to the phrase "makes one wonder?"

[ChumpDumper]

in·nu·en·do
an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

shall I explain how the term applies to the phrase "makes one wonder?"
Sorry, I didn't know you were so ignorant.

I'll adjust my word choice whenever I see you in a thread.:tu

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in·nu·en·do
an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

shall I explain how the term applies to the phrase "makes one wonder?"


Sorry, I didn't know you were so ignorant.

I'll adjust my word choice whenever I see you in a thread.:tu

Lumps & Dumps no longer sittin' in-a-tree.

[pgardn]

Hater with his failed predictions. :lmao

How is everyone doing post WW3?

Some things remain extremely predictable.
Hater being humiliated and wrong.

[pgardn]

Israel getting down and dirty with the coverage and press releases to the UN.
The rapes via the gangs within Hamas factions with absolutely horrible torture rape and then mutilating the bodies of Israeli women.
Torture, desecrate, kill. Not a good combination to show the world. Some of these Hamas monsters were doing similar things to Palestinians.
Israel has again shown the world the recipe for creating monsters. (No country is entirely without this recipe) Keep people poor and surround them with violence, generation to generation.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry, I didn't know you were so ignorant.

I'll adjust my word choice whenever I see you in a thread.:tu

:lol I wonder what has you so worked up?

[hater]

Lumps & Dumps no longer sittin' in-a-tree.

Bibi will do that to you :lmao :lmao :lmao

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Some things remain extremely predictable.
Hater being humiliated and wrong.

...and Trump making President. He caught ya's sleeping at the gate, rushed it with those blooded boys and set Hillary's top rung on that curb..."Now, say good night."

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Bibi will do that to you :lmao :lmao :lmao

Matzel, matzel.

[hater]

Matzel, matzel.

3rd most powerful man in the world after Xi and Putler

He says Jump and USA says how high :lol

[Ef-man]

Fucked around and found out!

Five Hamas bunker bitch commanders were killed Tuesday after a strike on the tunnel they were in.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kp9s45cssx1NpWEA10yrzA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMDY4O2NmPXdlYn A-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/fox_news_text_979/15f7620324f943d5c961cd472e10f163

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Fucked around and found out!

Five Hamas bunker bitch commanders were killed Tuesday after a strike on the tunnel they were in.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kp9s45cssx1NpWEA10yrzA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xMDY4O2NmPXdlYn A-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/fox_news_text_979/15f7620324f943d5c961cd472e10f163

Don't forget The Holocaust!!!

[Winehole23]

The IDF calling US comments about Hamas irresponsible is new on me, but the note of concern about hostages is clearly foreground. Whether or not that concern is sincere doesn't matter: it's politically important in Israel.



The Israel Defense Forces says public discussions about the state of captives held in Gaza has moved into reckless territory, urging those responsible to knock it off.

“The conversation around the issue is irresponsible, inaccurate and should be avoided,” the IDF says in a rare statement.

The pushback is apparently in response to comments from US State Department spokesman Matthew Miller Monday that Hamas terrorists likely held back on freeing female hostages because it did not want them to speak publicly about being subjected to rape and other sexual violence.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-appears-to-push-back-on-irresponsible-us-claim-hamas-refusing-to-release-raped-hostages/

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I wonder what has you so worked up?:lol Declaring victory again. So predictable.

You're the one trying to start fights for no reason. Stop projecting.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol Declaring victory again. So predictable.

You're the one trying to start fights for no reason. Stop projecting.

No, I am claiming that you got upset. You are the one that see that as victory.

Shoe fits.

[diego]

Again you gloss over the role of Hamas again. You cannot even consider it.

Gaza is tiny as we have discussed. Let refugees into Egypt, uncomplicate the human shield component of combat and most importantly make sure those refugees get food, water, and health care. Once Hamas has been deposed then to me the best thing is to help those people rebuild their homes.

You're glossing over the Palestinian exodus if you expect them to just leave and wait till they're allowed to come back and given resources to rebuild. Why hasn't that happened in the past 70+ years? Hamas didn't even exist for most of that time

Regardless, it's telling that you think levelling tiny Gaza will eliminate state proxy Hamas. Further still when you use US disastrous response to 911 to justify Israel acting similarly

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're glossing over the Palestinian exodus if you expect them to just leave and wait till they're allowed to come back and given resources to rebuild. Why hasn't that happened in the past 70+ years? Hamas didn't even exist for most of that time

Regardless, it's telling that you think levelling tiny Gaza will eliminate state proxy Hamas. Further still when you use US disastrous response to 911 to justify Israel acting similarly

Why didn't it happen? I think in large part because of the adversarial nature of the neighboring Sunni states. As I have pointed out, in the past 70 years SA, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan would be talking about massing troops and escalating the conflict.

As it stands now they don't give a fuck and Hamas proxies are on the far side of Mesopotamia. They have been these since the 1980s. Same time as the Houthis and Hezbollah.

Gaza is a strip of land like 50 miles long. I am not saying ship them out to another region entirely just out of the war zone about the size of the San Antonio city limits.

Israel and Hamas seem set to battle building to building until it is over. Sunnis ain't doing shit. Deal with the world as it is.

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Why didn't it happen? I think in large part because of the adversarial nature of the neighboring Sunni states. As I have pointed out, in the past 70 years SA, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan would be talking about massing troops and escalating the conflict.

As it stands now they don't give a fuck and Hamas proxies are on the far side of Mesopotamia. They have been these since the 1980s. Same time as the Houthis and Hezbollah.

Gaza is a strip of land like 50 miles long. I am not saying ship them out to another region entirely just out of the war zone about the size of the San Antonio city limits.

Israel and Hamas seem set to battle building to building until it is over. Sunnis ain't doing shit. Deal with the world as it is.

...ha!!! That's rich. Like you dealt with Trump as President. Day 1. You threatened to blow him up in the White House.

Twixt. You threatened to cut his head off. You threatened to shoot him to death.

Last Day. The highest ranking soldier in the U.S., threatened to shoot him to death.

Oh, yeah, you're one sweet dealer, Lumps.

[ChumpDumper]

No, I am claiming that you got upset. You are the one that see that as victory.

Shoe fits.Of course you're claiming victory. You have to say U MAD rather than admit your ignorance.

Shoe fits.

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Of course you're claiming victory. You have to say U MAD rather than admit your ignorance.

Shoe fits.

No more sittin' in the same tree that's for damn sure.

tee, hee.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of course you're claiming victory. You have to say U MAD rather than admit your ignorance.

Shoe fits.

It's funny. You were saying that I am desperate to start a fight. You have the self awareness of Joey.

Sorry Chumpy, you are just funny to me.

[ChumpDumper]

It's funny. You were saying that I am desperate to start a fight. You have the self awareness of Joey.

Sorry Chumpy, you are just funny to me.

It's funny, you are trying mightily to start this fight after starting several others here.

Sorry Lumpy, you are just ignorant and will hold a grudge about it forever. You'll prove it with your next post. You couldn't just accept my educating you when you specifically asked me to multiple times.

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It's funny, you started this fight after starting several others here.

Sorry Lumpy, you are just ignorant and will hold a grudge about it forever. You'll prove it with your next post.

He nailed ya pretty damn good, Dumps. ha, ha.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The local democratic framing seems to be that it is Netanyahu and his conservative politics against the helpless Palestinian masses.

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The local democratic framing seems to be that it is Netanyahu and his conservative politics against the helpless Palestinian masses.

...with Yahoo winning and copping a Nobel Peace Prize in the bargain. Genocidal Joe will get a Nobel Peace Prize as well..."We felt it fully justified to issue more than 1 Nobel Peace Prize this time around. "Thank you and please remember The Holocaust. Thank you again."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's funny, you are trying mightily to start this fight after starting several others here.

Sorry Lumpy, you are just ignorant and will hold a grudge about it forever. You'll prove it with your next post.

You've really gotten upset since I quoted your "I wonder why Netanyahu was working with Hamas" post and then quoted innuendo.

You just want to snarl or you want to talk Israel v Hamas?

[ChumpDumper]

You've really gotten upset since I quoted your "I wonder why Netanyahu was working with Hamas" post and then quoted innuendo.

You just want to snarl or you want to talk Israel v Hamas?
:lmao declaring victory again

You want to keep your grudge going and act like you aren't. I understand. DMC tried. He didn't fool anyone either.

You won't admit you were just ignorant and take that simply true characterization as an attack. You do you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao declaring victory again

You want to keep your grudge going and act like you aren't. I understand. DMC tried. He didn't fool anyone either.

You won't admit you were just ignorant and take that simply true characterization as an attack. You do you.

Seriously, I do not see how I could be winning what or however. Perhaps you should explain your paradigm to me. I ask because of course I do not think like you.

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, I do not see how I could be winning what or however. Perhaps you should explain your paradigm to me. I ask because of course I do not think like you.
:lol "U Mad" is your defense mechanism

You don't think like me -- you think like DMC. He got pissy and combative whenever it became known he was not omnipotent. You're doing the same. It's ok that other people know things you don't. There is no need for you to go on a war footing whenever others see that. I hope this helps you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol "U Mad" is your defense mechanism

You don't think like me -- you think like DMC. He got pissy and combative whenever it became known he was not omnipotent. You're doing the same. It's ok that other people know things you don't. There is no need for you to go on a war footing whenever others see that. I hope this helps you.

Even if that were true, that is not a declaration of victory. We're arguing and commenting on your tone is a common riposte. Get over it.

[ChumpDumper]

Even if that were true, that is not a declaration of victory. We're arguing and commenting on your tone is a common riposte. Get over it.U mad.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

U mad.

I do like how your response to my asking for your point of view was to tell me that I am a know it all like DMC and it is okay to admit that other people know things too.

That is some straight up ignorance. Up there with "I'm not using innuendo!"

[ChumpDumper]

I do like how your response to my asking for your point of view was to tell me that I am a know it all like DMC and it is okay to admit that other people know things too.

That is some straight up ignorance. Up there with "I'm not using innuendo!"That is my point of view. You still haven't admitted your ignorance and never will. You're in full battle mode while trying to act like you aren't. Flowery language will probably follow in an attempt to look more civilized and calm, but that's more a derp move.

But U mad.

DMC mad.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That is my point of view. You still haven't admitted your ignorance and never will. You're in full battle mode while trying to act like you aren't. Flowery language will probably follow in an attempt to look more civilized and calm, but that's more a derp move.

But U mad.

DMC mad.

Ignorance to what?

Let's go back to where I see the devolution started.

Can you admit that your initial response to me in this thread where you wonder about Netanyahu's motives was innuendo that you led off with?