Austin Toros Info

[AusEM]

The G League web site will show where they are being broadcasted: https://gleague.nba.com/.

[ace3g]

Bruno Caboclo Is Finally Ready For The NBAhttps://www.ridiculousupside.com/2019/1/17/18187646/bruno-caboclo-ready-nba-toronto-raptors-raptors-905-rio-grande-valley-vipers

[Ellsworth]

The G League web site will show where they are being broadcasted: https://gleague.nba.com/.

https://www.facebook.com/nbagleague/videos/1199709100205024/

[exstatic]

Love Lonnie seems has potential but looks like he got trex arms
6’5”, wingspan of 6’10”. Get your eyes checked.

[ace3g]

Spurs get the win:

Huestis didn't play tonight.




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Maverick
Rowan
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628777/) 2
SF
26
3-6
2-4
3-3
14
0
1
1
1
2
0
0
0
0
11


Chimezie
Metu
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629002/) 7
PF
24
4-7
0-0
0-2
27
2
7
9
2
1
0
1
1
0
8


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14
C
24
8-12
0-0
0-0
23
2
10
12
1
2
1
2
1
0
16


Lonnie
Walker IV
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629022/) 1
SG
28
9-15
1-2
2-2
19
0
2
2
2
0
0
0
0
0
21


Travis
Trice II
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626275/) 10
PG
31
3-13
1-5
1-1
26
0
5
5
7
2
1
3
0
0
8


John
Holland
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/204066/) 11

28
7-10
4-6
2-2
5
0
2
2
1
3
1
1
0
0
20


Amida
Brimah
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628578/) 37

23
5-9
0-0
1-2
-3
4
6
10
1
4
1
4
7
1
11


Demetri
McCamey
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203175/) 15

20
2-6
1-4
0-0
-8
0
0
0
1
2
0
1
0
0
5


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/) 26

27
3-6
0-2
0-0
-4
1
11
12
1
2
0
0
0
0
6


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/) 30

1
0-0
0-0
0-0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


Cameron
Rundles
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629286/) 27

1
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
0
0


DeJuan
Blair
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/201971/) 45



Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/) 34



Total
-
-
44-84
9-23
9-12
-
9
44
53
17
19
4
13
9
1
106


Percentages

52%
39%
75%

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHtHEVQciUQ

[Mikeanaro]

Walker looking good, that almost out of bounds play was awesome.
Has shots, 3 pointers and passing.
Would like to see his D and how he translates everything into the NBA.

[ace3g]

I'd like to see his rebounding/assist numbers improve.

[Russ]

Walker looking good, that almost out of bounds play was awesome.
Has shots, 3 pointers and passing.
Would like to see his D and how he translates everything into the NBA.

I've been skeptical of Walker but he's showing a lot now. He has a ton of offensive potential -- he can pass, penetrate, shoot and create.

But his defensive instincts are about the worst on record.

There's no fake he won't fall for, no play that he won't overrun.

The good news is he has a very quick first step on D. The bad news is it's usually in the wrong direction.

[Mikeanaro]

I've been skeptical of Walker but he's showing a lot now. He has a ton of offensive potential -- he can pass, penetrate, shoot and create.

But his defensive instincts are about the worst on record.

There's no fake he won't fall for, no play that he won't overrun.

The good news is he has a very quick first step on D. The bad news is it's usually in the wrong direction.
Lol, well he can get a lot of improvement in SA like they did with Kawhi, so if he has good D it will come with time.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Watching him in the g league he's a very different player than what I thought we were getting when drafted. His go to move is a pull up midrange J, he's rarely driving all the way although lately he's doing it more often, he's beyond awful defensively but his 3 point shot is quite good. Perhaps his injury and recovery have played a role in this. His handles are good and he can drive on anyone especially in the g league.

Good news is he definitely looks an NBA player. Has a great first step, athleticism, handles, decent shooting off the dribble, as well as spot up. His dribble pull up J will be there for him in the NBA too, but he's got to increase his defensive intensity and feel tenfold to get meaningful minutes. He has so many skills already for such a young player, it's exciting what he can turn into if he can get it all together and make a development leap like White did.

[ceperez]

Watching him in the g league he's a very different player than what I thought we were getting when drafted. His go to move is a pull up midrange J, he's rarely driving all the way although lately he's doing it more often, he's beyond awful defensively but his 3 point shot is quite good. Perhaps his injury and recovery have played a role in this. His handles are good and he can drive on anyone especially in the g league.

Good news is he definitely looks an NBA player. Has a great first step, athleticism, handles, decent shooting off the dribble, as well as spot up. His dribble pull up J will be there for him in the NBA too, but he's got to increase his defensive intensity and feel tenfold to get meaningful minutes. He has so many skills already for such a young player, it's exciting what he can turn into if he can get it all together and make a development leap like White did.

I have no doubt that Walker has the physical tools to be a good NBA player. It is the basketball IQ that he needs work on and that takes time to develop. He's in the right system to make him a very good player.

[duncan2150]

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/lonnie-walker

All we see is What his draft profile tells : he’s more an offensive guard, he got all the physical tools To suceed but he needs To be more focused on defense and To develop his BB IQ. I agree with some of you, i was expecting more stats ( steals, rebounds ... ) but not that good shooting stroke.

[ceperez]

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/lonnie-walker

All we see is What his draft profile tells : he’s more an offensive guard, he got all the physical tools To suceed but he needs To be more focused on defense and To develop his BB IQ. I agree with some of you, i was expecting more stats ( steals, rebounds ... ) but not that good shooting stroke.

He's got an NBA body, NBA athleticism and NBA quality stroke. If he remotely comes close to D.White's NBA level IQ, then he's going to be a very useful asset.

Spurs are really stacked in the back court. Made sense for Parker to leave. If Parker where still here, White would never get the playing time to develop.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Gone are the days when players come out NBA ready. Some of these basic mistakes that Lonnie make are ones that should've been coached out of him by the time he made it to us, but since he only stayed 1 year at Miami, he is very raw. I'm one of the people who is ok with Pop's taking the slow and methodical route with our talent. He sees the macro when it comes to our players better than anyone else in the league and he knows that its his job now to develop players into actual NBA players instead of disappointments like Wiggins. Can you imagine what Wiggins would be like today if he played with the Spurs at the start of his career, he would be a monster. Instead he still makes stupid mistakes, doesn't know how to take over games or move without the ball and is lazy on defense. Give Lonnie a few years and he will be a monster himself in the NBA.

[exstatic]

Gone are the days when players come out NBA ready. Some of these basic mistakes that Lonnie make are ones that should've been coached out of him by the time he made it to us, but since he only stayed 1 year at Miami, he is very raw. I'm one of the people who is ok with Pop's taking the slow and methodical route with our talent. He sees the macro when it comes to our players better than anyone else in the league and he knows that its his job now to develop players into actual NBA players instead of disappointments like Wiggins. Can you imagine what Wiggins would be like today if he played with the Spurs at the start of his career, he would be a monster. Instead he still makes stupid mistakes, doesn't know how to take over games or move without the ball and is lazy on defense. Give Lonnie a few years and he will be a monster himself in the NBA.

If Pop can get Bryn Forbes to basically stay in front of his man, with very few physical tools, he can turn Lonnie into a top flite defender.

[Russ]

If Pop can get Bryn Forbes to basically stay in front of his man, with very few physical tools, he can turn Lonnie into a top flite defender.

Just like with Dejounte Murray.

Murray looked like the worst defender in history coming into the league.

The Spurs not only turned him into an adequate defender, they turned him into a budding elite defender in short order.

Shooting and D are things the Spurs staff can confer to a player. It looks like they're already making Walker a much better shooter now for the D . . .

[GB20]

Just like with Dejounte Murray.

Murray looked like the worst defender in history coming into the league.

The Spurs not only turned him into an adequate defender, they turned him into a budding elite defender in short order.

Shooting and D are things the Spurs staff can confer to a player. It looks like they're already making Walker a much better shooter now for the D . . .

Exactly!! Murray wasn't a good defender in college.

[superbigtime]

dejuan DNP. dang can't even get PT w Toros? hurt or what?

[duncan2150]

Just like with Dejounte Murray.

Murray looked like the worst defender in history coming into the league.

The Spurs not only turned him into an adequate defender, they turned him into a budding elite defender in short order.

Shooting and D are things the Spurs staff can confer to a player. It looks like they're already making Walker a much better shooter now for the D . . .

i agree overall but dejounte was not a bad defender, he made 1.8 steal in his colle year for example.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/dejounte-murray

From nbadraft « Has the potential to be a lock down defender and is already one of the better guard defenders in the Conference in his freshman season »

[exstatic]

Just like with Dejounte Murray.

Murray looked like the worst defender in history coming into the league.

The Spurs not only turned him into an adequate defender, they turned him into a budding elite defender in short order.

Shooting and D are things the Spurs staff can confer to a player. It looks like they're already making Walker a much better shooter now for the D . . .

Lonnie already had great form. Every draft profile I read commented on it. His issue was poor/overly difficult shot selection. Once he learns to play within the offense, the whole good to great thing, he could easily be a 40% shooter from beyond the NBA arc.

[superbigtime]

Lonnie already had great form. Every draft profile I read commented on it. His issue was poor/overly difficult shot selection. Once he learns to play within the offense, the whole good to great thing, he could easily be a 40% shooter from beyond the NBA arc.

Everyone is high on Walker it seems, but in your opinion who should LW4 be in front of in Spurs current rotation, or does he truly belong in Austin currently.

[Pavlov]

Everyone is high on Walker it seems, but in your opinion who should LW4 be in front of in Spurs current rotation, or does he truly belong in Austin currently.Since you didn't ask me, I'll answer.

He's where he should be right now. He's learning that defenses in the pros are much better than college. His drives and finishes aren't even on Bryn's level at this point, and neither is his defensive positioning or effort, though he seems to be improving his D lately. He's getting to be a deadly shooter at that level and the kind of spacing he uses off high screens is the same that he'll be able to get in the NBA. He can go for 20 in a half that way when the game plan turns towards him, so he's like roughly a third of the way to contributing and moving in the right direction.

[Chinook]

Everyone is high on Walker it seems, but in your opinion who should LW4 be in front of in Spurs current rotation, or does he truly belong in Austin currently.

Should be in Austin. He has a set of NBA-level moves an NBA body and uber athleticism, but that's all he has. He isn't a good finisher. He's not even a good driver. He's not a natural passer. He's not a particularly adept rebounder or rim-protector. The steals he gets are much more from hustle than anticipation. Dude is exactly what the d-league is for. He has raw skills that need minutes and special coaching to develop. Especially with the injury, dude's going to have to be brought along patiently, and having him sitting on the bench isn't going to get him there.

[palangi]

Should be in Austin. He has a set of NBA-level moves an NBA body and uber athleticism, but that's all he has. He isn't a good finisher. He's not even a good driver. He's not a natural passer. He's not a particularly adept rebounder or rim-protector. The steals he gets are much more from hustle than anticipation. Dude is exactly what the d-league is for. He has raw skills that need minutes and special coaching to develop. Especially with the injury, dude's going to have to be brought along patiently, and having him sitting on the bench isn't going to get him there.

I agree he is where he needs to be this year. But I hope patty is traded next year and walker takes those minutes.
Murray
White
Derozan
Forbes
Walker

Not a bad group

[superbigtime]

good answers, thanks dudes. I agree but wish I could watch him more. Next year is going to be promising, I hope Pop will still be on the sideline making the calls.

[Down Under]

He's a 3 & D NBA guy for the next couple of seasons. With LMA, DDR, White & probably Gay here, that's what his role would be limited to.

[ace3g]

Bruno playing right now:

Rio Grande Valley Vipers


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Dakarai
Tucker
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628026/) 14
SF
11
3-4
3-3
0-0
25
0
1
1
1
1
0
0
0
0
9


Bruno
Caboclo
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203998/) 5
PF
11
4-5
3-4
2-2
24
0
3
3
1
0
0
1
2
0
13




Still in 2nd quarter

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20190120/RGVSBL/

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt228MwzY_0

[r0drig0lac]

The Grizzlies are signing forward Bruno Caboclo to a 10 day contract, league sources tell ESPN. He was playing with Rockets G League team.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHtHEVQciUQ

Thanks for posting this. I've had no chance to see any of LW's D-league games. Looks like he's coming along nicely.

[ceperez]

The Grizzlies are signing forward Bruno Caboclo to a 10 day contract, league sources tell ESPN. He was playing with Rockets G League team.

Oh well, I guess Q-pon is more valuable than this guy.

[ace3g]

The Grizzlies are signing forward Bruno Caboclo to a 10 day contract, league sources tell ESPN. He was playing with Rockets G League team.

Makes sense for a team that needs help at SF due to injury ACTUALLY goes out and signs a SF for depth...

[ceperez]

The Grizzlies are signing forward Bruno Caboclo to a 10 day contract, league sources tell ESPN. He was playing with Rockets G League team.

It's the same Grizzlies who picked up Washburn the other day.

[Duncan87]

Man another rough shooting night forLonnie Walker 6 - 20. In blowout loss

[playbonner15]

It's the same Grizzlies who picked up Washburn the other day.
Grizzlies FO confirmed ST lurker

[ceperez]

Man another rough shooting night forLonnie Walker 6 - 20. In blowout loss

Needs to learn consistency. This won't do!

[duncan2150]

Lonnie shoots at 45% at 2 and 36 at 3 this year wich is not bad. He needs To be more consistent but that’s ok.

[ceperez]

Lonnie shoots at 45% at 2 and 36 at 3 this year wich is not bad. He needs To be more consistent but that’s ok.

Walker is loaded with talent and athleticism. Unlike Murray, Walker can actually shoot!

If he can only learn from White, then he'll be an incredible player. White had to learn his game because all his life he was inferior athletically. He played 3 years at a cooking school and during that time grew a couple of inches. So he learned all the moves that he needed to beat bigger and more athletic players.

Lonnie is different. He at 19 had superior athletic abilities that his peers. What he needs to learn now is to play against NBA level athletes. Players bigger, faster, stronger than he will ever be.

[exstatic]

Needs to learn consistency. This won't do!

No one shoots their exact average each game. Consistency is holding that average over a period of weeks or months.

[paperboy77]

Guy should be playing for the Spurs. Played Long enough in the scrub league. Pop really can’t find this guy 5-10 minutes for him? Anything Pau plays should go to Lonnie. Isn’t everyone saying it’s a position less league?

Spurs arent gent winning a tittle this year, next year or probably the one after. Why save these guys? Make it entertaining for the fans.

[BackHome]

Because if you bring a guy up to fast and they suck it can damage that player psyche. Walker was drafted on his potential which means G League and I understand people wanting him to play but when he sucks these people will be the first to start threads - Draft Bust, Trade Walker, Pop and RC suck. Lol

[bayareaspursfan]

Because if you bring a guy up to fast and they suck it can damage that player psyche. Walker was drafted on his potential which means G League and I understand people wanting him to play but when he sucks these people will be the first to start threads - Draft Bust, Trade Walker, Pop and RC suck. Lol
Couldn't agree more. So many impatient cry babies in here

[paperboy77]

Well it would be nice if we could see him play. Still, some guys don’t pan out either way. I guess that’s why we are just some people on a forum and not running things for the Spurs.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1088898069020725255

[Truth4sale$]

Spurs have some good developmental prospects in Austin. Let them stay there and continue until next year. Although, I would like to see Ben Moore get a little big club action once.

[kaji157]

Clearly Eubanks will be with the big Spurs next year when Gasol goes away or whatever chooses to do after cashing in six millions.

[playbonner15]

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1088898069020725255
Drewkeem The Dream

[paperboy77]

Well LW certainly looks like he belongs. The guy coulda made a difference vs the Sixers. POP NEEDS TO FIND SOME TIME FOR LONNIE! Reminded me a little of the old #32 Sean Elliott. Same stride. Yeah send him to Austin between games but have him available for all games.

[ace3g]

Bruno was a big reason the Grizz beat the Pacers tonight.

[r0drig0lac]

Bruno was a big reason the Grizz beat the Pacers tonight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRJSTIB7kM
good to see as a brazilian fan

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRJSTIB7kM
good to see as a brazilian fan

Man.... Spurs PATFO asleep at the wheel again!!!

&&*(*^*(^)(*))!!!!

[ace3g]

Eubanks keeping his high shooting % - Currently 9-11 for 24 points.

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20190127/STOAUS/

[BackHome]

Man if he was only two inches taller I can see him being maybe playing PF and Center when small ball is needed

Still want to see Ben Moore called up at least once to see what we have.

[Blackhaus]

Man if he was only two inches taller I can see him being maybe playing PF and Center when small ball is needed

Still want to see Ben Moore called up at least once to see what we have.

Who? Eubanks? He’s 6 10 right?

[ceperez]

Who? Eubanks? He’s 6 10 right?

Yes, he's short 2".

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SCCta19WkE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufyB2mydcJA

[Blackhaus]

I think Eubanks has perfected that jump hook, basically his only move other than dunking

[Pavlov]

I think Eubanks has perfected that jump hook, basically his only move other than dunkingIt's a good shot for the next level. Hopefully he can increase his range.

[r0drig0lac]

I'm more surprised with Huestis hitting their 3pt than with Eubanks efficiency

[DAF86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRJSTIB7kM
good to see as a brazilian fan

I'm baffled it took this long for an NBA team to take a chance on this guy. He is as intriguing as any G-leaguer ever.

[r0drig0lac]

I'm baffled it took this long for an NBA team to take a chance on this guy. He is as intriguing as any G-leaguer ever.

his work ethic was questionable to say the least

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufyB2mydcJAMoore really benefited from Washburn's departure. Was sad to see him go but Moore has a higher ceiling.

[ace3g]

Moore really benefited from Washburn's departure. Was sad to see him go but Moore has a higher ceiling.

Cool to see that 2-way contract players get a locker

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1089726615205146629

[BD24]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRJSTIB7kM
good to see as a brazilian fan
As badly as we need a true wing why the fuck didn't we take a flyer on this guy? A high risk/high upside guy like him is far better than Cunningham or Pon.

Fuck mna.

[Pavlov]

Meh, Memphis is putting out a cattle call in front of blowing up the current team. I think the Spurs might even be waiting to see if Parsons is bought out along with seeing any progress from Pondexter before making any moves in that area.

[BD24]

Meh, Memphis is putting out a cattle call in front of blowing up the current team. I think the Spurs might even be waiting to see if Parsons is bought out along with seeing any progress from Pondexter before making any moves in that area.
I'm not saying the guy is some world beater, but might as well take a flyer on him over the likes of cunningham and Pondexter imo. If it doesn't work out didn't really lose anything. He has pretty high upside at a position of need for us.

[Pavlov]

I'm not saying the guy is some world beater, but might as well take a flyer on him over the likes of cunningham and Pondexter imo. If it doesn't work out didn't really lose anything. He has pretty high upside at a position of need for us.Just telling you what I think the FO is thinking. Pretty sure they're waiting for health more than anything.

[BD24]

Just telling you what I think the FO is thinking. Pretty sure they're waiting for health more than anything.
Fair enough.

[exstatic]

Meh, Memphis is putting out a cattle call in front of blowing up the current team. I think the Spurs might even be waiting to see if Parsons is bought out along with seeing any progress from Pondexter before making any moves in that area.

I hate Parsons. In even limited minutes, his BPM is -5.7. At this point, he's a homeless, chronically injured version of Bertans, and redundant.

[ceperez]

As badly as we need a true wing why the fuck didn't we take a flyer on this guy? A high risk/high upside guy like him is far better than Cunningham or Pon.

Fuck mna.

My sentiments precisely.

Caboclo's problem is that he can't be signed for a two way (he's been in the league for 4 years). The only way to sign him is to give him a real contract. That means you have to gamble that he finally becomes a professional. You can't however ignore his 7'7" wingspan and his touch from 3.

[Dex]

Free tickets are available for Friday evening's game:

https://sse.formstack.com/forms/aha_austin_spurs_red_night_2019?utm_campaign=19012 9_Austin%20Spurs_Red%20Night_Comp%20Tickets&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua

[Pavlov]

Free tickets are available for Friday evening's game:

https://sse.formstack.com/forms/aha_austin_spurs_red_night_2019?utm_campaign=19012 9_Austin%20Spurs_Red%20Night_Comp%20Tickets&utm_medium=email&utm_source=EloquaGo as early as possible if you receive a voucher. The last time I went to one of those promos was a fiasco. Hundreds of voucher holders were turned away after waiting in a huge line. Hopefully they learned from that.

[Dex]

Go as early as possible if you receive a voucher. The last time I went to one of those promos was a fiasco. Hundreds of voucher holders were turned away after waiting in a huge line. Hopefully they learned from that.

How long ago was that?

I've gotten free tickets a few times before and it's usually pretty straight-forward...just have to go pick up the tickets under your name at Will Call.

Come to think of it, I think I've only paid for tickets once :lol

[Pavlov]

How long ago was that?

I've gotten free tickets a few times before and it's usually pretty straight-forward...just have to go pick up the tickets under your name at Will Call.

Come to think of it, I think I've only paid for tickets once :lolIt was the last game of the season a couple years ago on a weekend afternoon so the response was more than they were expecting.

[Dex]

It was the last game of the season a couple years ago on a weekend afternoon so the response was more than they were expecting.

Gotcha, thats a bummer.

The games are fun (especially when they are free), but I'd feel a bit hassled if I planned to go to one and got turned away at the door.

Hopefully they've changed their system and if you reserve tickets, they actually hold them for you. Like the old Seinfeld bit...

A7uvttu8ct0

[ace3g]

As badly as we need a true wing why the fuck didn't we take a flyer on this guy? A high risk/high upside guy like him is far better than Cunningham or Pon.

Fuck mna.

https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/1090815857981157377

https://twitter.com/amberspirit3/status/1090998946380607499

https://twitter.com/amberspirit3/status/1090997430093516800

[Blackhaus]

Should we rename this thread Caboclo?

[ceperez]

https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/1090815857981157377

https://twitter.com/amberspirit3/status/1090998946380607499

https://twitter.com/amberspirit3/status/1090997430093516800

Which moron in the Spurs organization couldn't see the value of this player?

Here's the deal, Memphis still needs to lock up this player long term. So there's still a chance to steal him.

[Spurs da champs]

Which moron in the Spurs organization couldn't see the value of this player?

Here's the deal, Memphis still needs to lock up this player long term. So there's still a chance to steal him.

Too much size and athleticism on the perimeter.

[exstatic]

Which moron in the Spurs organization couldn't see the value of this player?

Pretty much the whole NBA passed on him (including the Rockets who cut him instead of even a 2way), because he had literally shown NOTHING at that level. To single out the Spurs is the worst kind of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Let's see him actually SHOW something. He's still shooting crap from 3 in the big league, 28% on 4.5 attempts per game, and scoring a whopping 5.8p while hauling down 3.3 boards. The only thing that really jumps off the score sheet is 1.8 blocks.

[ceperez]

Pretty much the whole NBA passed on him (including the Rockets who cut him instead of even a 2way), because he had literally shown NOTHING at that level. To single out the Spurs is the worst kind of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Let's see him actually SHOW something. He's still shooting crap from 3 in the big league, 28% on 4.5 attempts per game, and scoring a whopping 5.8p while hauling down 3.3 boards. The only thing that really jumps off the score sheet is 1.8 blocks.

I don't think Cunningham or Pondexter could have blocked Wiggins like that.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I don't think Cunningham or Pondexter could have blocked Wiggins like that.

At least they don't shoot .318 FG% and .278 from 3.

[ceperez]

At least they don't shoot .318 FG% and .278 from 3.

How many blocks has Cunningham and Pondexter had (combined) this entire season?

[pad300]

Pretty much the whole NBA passed on him (including the Rockets who cut him instead of even a 2way), because he had literally shown NOTHING at that level. To single out the Spurs is the worst kind of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Let's see him actually SHOW something. He's still shooting crap from 3 in the big league, 28% on 4.5 attempts per game, and scoring a whopping 5.8p while hauling down 3.3 boards. The only thing that really jumps off the score sheet is 1.8 blocks.

While I agree that Bruno needs to show more, I do think PATFO has made a mistake by not having a roster spot to cycle 10-days. Although the odds of a hit on any individual 10 day are not good, we have pulled several useful players that way, and we need all the talent we can get...

[ceperez]

While I agree that Bruno needs to show more, I do think PATFO has made a mistake by not having a roster spot to cycle 10-days. Although the odds of a hit on any individual 10 day are not good, we have pulled several useful players that way, and we need all the talent we can get...

Exactly. Spurs are in dire need of a defensive SF and Caboclo has four years since his draft to become ready to be in the NBA. You cannot fault a young player for not having the right support to work on fundamentals. It isn't like he comes from France where at a young age they learn the fundamentals.

Anyway, there's still hope that PATFO picks him up in the offseason.

[Drom John]

How many blocks has Cunningham and Pondexter had (combined) this entire season?

14
13 Cunningham
1 Pondexter

[ceperez]

14
13 Cunningham
1 Pondexter

Caboclo has 7 blocks in 4 games played.

Cunningham and Pondexter had ONE block this year.

[exstatic]

Caboclo has 7 blocks in 4 games played.

Cunningham and Pondexter had ONE block this year.

Dante Cunningham is shooting 49.1% from 3. Pondexter is shooting 37.5%. Cablowjob is shooting 27.8%.

Oh, and you can't fucking read, either. Together they have 14 blocks, not 1.

[ceperez]

Dante Cunningham is shooting 49.1% from 3. Pondexter is shooting 37.5%. Cablowjob is shooting 27.8%.

Oh, and you can't fucking read, either. Together they have 14 blocks, not 1.

1 combined Block in 2019. That is 19 combined games when they both sniffed the court.

The other point is, Spurs have plenty of good shooters but very few defenders.

[John B]

Thabeet is making a comeback, 7’3” with 7’6” wingspan and working on his 3’s. Anyone interested??

[ceperez]

https://dailymemphian.com/article/2692/Herrington-Last-call-for-Conley-and-Gasol-Grizzlies-trade-rumor-roundup-Bruno-Caboclos-future-and-more

Does Bruno Caboclo have a future in Memphis?

Bruno Caboclo had a nice weekend for the Grizzlies, and if you don’t entirely know who that is, don’t feel bad. Mike Conley said he wasn’t quite sure what his new teammate’s name was until Caboclo’s Friday night debut.

A Brazilian forward who was a surprise first-round pick (20th overall) of the Toronto Raptors in the 2014 rookie draft, Caboclo became infamous for a crack made that night by ESPN analyst Fran Fraschilla, who said Caboclo was “two years away from being two years away.”

The notion that Caboclo was nowhere close to ready for the NBA proved accurate. Through four seasons with two franchises (the Raptors and the Sacramento Kings), Caboclo barely played at the NBA level (35 total games), and not well. He spent most of his time in the NBA’s developmental system. Cut loose heading into this summer, he got a training camp contract with the Houston Rockets but was released before the season began, heading to the Rockets’ G League team, the Rio Grande Valley Vipers.

There, Caboclo was having a nice season, becoming one of the league’s most impactful defenders and making 3-pointers at a greater than 40 percent clip. According to the G League-centric site Ridiculous Upside, Caboclo finally looked ready for a legitimate NBA shot.

The Grizzlies gave it to him with a 10-day contract signed last Thursday, and could it be that “two years away from being two years away” -- uttered four years ago -- will prove prophetic? Is Caboclo in fact now ready?

The early signs were pretty good. Caboclo played 8 minutes on Friday night against Sacramento, and while he missed all four of his shots, he had a steal, a block, and an eye-popping offensive rebound.

At 6-9 with a 7-foot-7 wingspan (no typo), Caboclo glides across the floor and covers a massive amount of space both horizontally and vertically. You can tell after watching him for only a few seconds of game time that he’s a plus athlete even by the exalted standards of the NBA. That’s what got him drafted as a teenager with very little track record. But until now, he hasn’t been a player.

On Saturday night, with wings Garrett Temple and Omri Casspi out with injuries and Justin Holiday picking up two early fouls, Caboclo was the Grizzlies’ first player off the bench. He used his long stride to get to the rim and draw a foul, making both free throws. He knocked down a corner three. He ended the half chasing down Tyreke Evans for a block. This bought him another look in the second half, and it got even better.

Caboclo finished the third quarter with a second made three, a tap rebound to set up a Shelvin Mack floater, a chase-down contest to influence a missed Pacers layup, and a big baseline chest-bump from Jackson. In the Grizzlies’ closing kick, the guy who’d been in Memphis for two days crashed a 3-pointer party thrown by Mike Conley and Marc Gasol, who’d been in Memphis more than a decade.

Caboclo finished with 11 points (3 of 4 from three), four boards, and a couple of blocks, and you can bet you’ll see him again on Monday night.

While the Grizzlies have some big player personnel misses on their recent resume, they’ve been pretty good at finding legit contributors out of the G League, with Jon Leuer (a trade acquisition, but one then playing mostly in the minors), James Johnson, Wayne Selden, and JaMychal Green all examples.

The clock could strike midnight on Caboclo any old time, but his combination of age and athletic gifts makes him a higher-ceiling lottery ticket than any of those relative success stories. The Grizzlies should sign him now, not just for the rest of this season but for next too, much like they did last spring with MarShon Brooks. Right?

Under normal circumstances, I’d say yes. But there are a couple of hurdles that are likely going to prevent that from happening for a little while.

One is the Grizzlies’ potential activity ahead of the Feb. 7 trade deadline. NBA rosters are a max of 15 players in-season, with Caboclo as the Grizzlies’ 15th man. In order to make a trade, you have to have roster spots into which you can take acquired players. Even if you plan to release a player for whom you’re trading, they have to go onto your roster first. If the Grizzlies trade Mike Conley or Marc Gasol, the size of each of those players' contracts makes it likely the Grizzlies will have to take in more players in a deal than they send out. The team will probably need the roster spot Caboclo currently inhabits in order to facilitate trades.

Even without that complication, the Grizzlies still wouldn’t sign Caboclo to a rest-of-season contract right now for luxury tax reasons. The team is close enough to the NBA’s luxury tax line that signing Caboclo – or anyone else – for the rest of the season today would put them over it. And that’s not going to happen. (You could blame the Justin Holiday trade, which put the team closer to the cap. Then again, it also opened up the roster spot Caboclo currently inhabits.)

While it’s not top of list – that would be trying to find productive deals for Conley and Gasol – one goal you can fairly assume the Grizzlies will have is to come out of the trade deadline with an open roster spot (or ability to easily create one) and a little bit of extra tax room. Caboclo will be eligible for a second 10-day contract when his first one ends, this coming weekend. But without the tax room, a rest-of-season signing probably wouldn’t be an option until well into March.

Caboclo looks like a find, but it won’t matter much if the Grizzlies can’t capitalize by signing him beyond this season.

[John B]

https://dailymemphian.com/article/2692/Herrington-Last-call-for-Conley-and-Gasol-Grizzlies-trade-rumor-roundup-Bruno-Caboclos-future-and-more

Does Bruno Caboclo have a future in Memphis?

Bruno Caboclo had a nice weekend for the Grizzlies, and if you don’t entirely know who that is, don’t feel bad. Mike Conley said he wasn’t quite sure what his new teammate’s name was until Caboclo’s Friday night debut.

A Brazilian forward who was a surprise first-round pick (20th overall) of the Toronto Raptors in the 2014 rookie draft, Caboclo became infamous for a crack made that night by ESPN analyst Fran Fraschilla, who said Caboclo was “two years away from being two years away.”

The notion that Caboclo was nowhere close to ready for the NBA proved accurate. Through four seasons with two franchises (the Raptors and the Sacramento Kings), Caboclo barely played at the NBA level (35 total games), and not well. He spent most of his time in the NBA’s developmental system. Cut loose heading into this summer, he got a training camp contract with the Houston Rockets but was released before the season began, heading to the Rockets’ G League team, the Rio Grande Valley Vipers.

There, Caboclo was having a nice season, becoming one of the league’s most impactful defenders and making 3-pointers at a greater than 40 percent clip. According to the G League-centric site Ridiculous Upside, Caboclo finally looked ready for a legitimate NBA shot.

The Grizzlies gave it to him with a 10-day contract signed last Thursday, and could it be that “two years away from being two years away” -- uttered four years ago -- will prove prophetic? Is Caboclo in fact now ready?

The early signs were pretty good. Caboclo played 8 minutes on Friday night against Sacramento, and while he missed all four of his shots, he had a steal, a block, and an eye-popping offensive rebound.

At 6-9 with a 7-foot-7 wingspan (no typo), Caboclo glides across the floor and covers a massive amount of space both horizontally and vertically. You can tell after watching him for only a few seconds of game time that he’s a plus athlete even by the exalted standards of the NBA. That’s what got him drafted as a teenager with very little track record. But until now, he hasn’t been a player.

On Saturday night, with wings Garrett Temple and Omri Casspi out with injuries and Justin Holiday picking up two early fouls, Caboclo was the Grizzlies’ first player off the bench. He used his long stride to get to the rim and draw a foul, making both free throws. He knocked down a corner three. He ended the half chasing down Tyreke Evans for a block. This bought him another look in the second half, and it got even better.

Caboclo finished the third quarter with a second made three, a tap rebound to set up a Shelvin Mack floater, a chase-down contest to influence a missed Pacers layup, and a big baseline chest-bump from Jackson. In the Grizzlies’ closing kick, the guy who’d been in Memphis for two days crashed a 3-pointer party thrown by Mike Conley and Marc Gasol, who’d been in Memphis more than a decade.

Caboclo finished with 11 points (3 of 4 from three), four boards, and a couple of blocks, and you can bet you’ll see him again on Monday night.

While the Grizzlies have some big player personnel misses on their recent resume, they’ve been pretty good at finding legit contributors out of the G League, with Jon Leuer (a trade acquisition, but one then playing mostly in the minors), James Johnson, Wayne Selden, and JaMychal Green all examples.

The clock could strike midnight on Caboclo any old time, but his combination of age and athletic gifts makes him a higher-ceiling lottery ticket than any of those relative success stories. The Grizzlies should sign him now, not just for the rest of this season but for next too, much like they did last spring with MarShon Brooks. Right?

Under normal circumstances, I’d say yes. But there are a couple of hurdles that are likely going to prevent that from happening for a little while.

One is the Grizzlies’ potential activity ahead of the Feb. 7 trade deadline. NBA rosters are a max of 15 players in-season, with Caboclo as the Grizzlies’ 15th man. In order to make a trade, you have to have roster spots into which you can take acquired players. Even if you plan to release a player for whom you’re trading, they have to go onto your roster first. If the Grizzlies trade Mike Conley or Marc Gasol, the size of each of those players' contracts makes it likely the Grizzlies will have to take in more players in a deal than they send out. The team will probably need the roster spot Caboclo currently inhabits in order to facilitate trades.

Even without that complication, the Grizzlies still wouldn’t sign Caboclo to a rest-of-season contract right now for luxury tax reasons. The team is close enough to the NBA’s luxury tax line that signing Caboclo – or anyone else – for the rest of the season today would put them over it. And that’s not going to happen. (You could blame the Justin Holiday trade, which put the team closer to the cap. Then again, it also opened up the roster spot Caboclo currently inhabits.)

While it’s not top of list – that would be trying to find productive deals for Conley and Gasol – one goal you can fairly assume the Grizzlies will have is to come out of the trade deadline with an open roster spot (or ability to easily create one) and a little bit of extra tax room. Caboclo will be eligible for a second 10-day contract when his first one ends, this coming weekend. But without the tax room, a rest-of-season signing probably wouldn’t be an option until well into March.

Caboclo looks like a find, but it won’t matter much if the Grizzlies can’t capitalize by signing him beyond this season.
Tbh if FO could steal him with a longer contract why not. He checks out what we need in the 3 and D position and more.

[ceperez]

Tbh if FO could steal him with a longer contract why not. He checks out what we need in the 3 and D position and more.

Honestly, he's got more upside than Stanley Johnson (who can't shoot).

[Spurs da champs]

Thabeet is making a comeback, 7’3” with 7’6” wingspan and working on his 3’s. Anyone interested??

Dejuan Blair should have just snapped his arm off and saved him the embarrassment that is his pro career.

[John B]

Dajuan Blair should have just snapped his arm off and saved him the embarrassment that is his pro career.
We missed out on Okafor I think he's doing good at Pel. Thabeet is an athletic big and could be a Capela.

[r0drig0lac]

We missed out on Okafor I think he's doing good at Pel. Thabeet is an athletic big and could be a Capela.

NO WAY

[ace3g]

Spurs playing the Nets tonight.

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1091463857510539267

[BD24]

We missed out on Okafor I think he's doing good at Pel. Thabeet is an athletic big and could be a Capela.
Have you ever actually watched Thabeet play? He is slow, real fucking slow

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9y0isiBs8

[Mr. Body]

His shot is looking better.

[BD24]

His shot is looking better.
The fact that a few of those were pull up threes is very encouraging tbh.

[John B]

His skills are there. I think it’s just a matter of learning the plays, positioning, etc., likewise on the defensive side. Is Bowen available to show closeouts, fighting pnr, also help defense. I think he could be serviceable enough to take Dante and Q-Pon’s minutes

[ceperez]

His skills are there. I think it’s just a matter of learning the plays, positioning, etc., likewise on the defensive side. Is Bowen available to show closeouts, fighting pnr, also help defense. I think he could be serviceable enough to take Dante and Q-Pon’s minutes

I agree. Just needs to learn where to be on the court and not bump into his own teammates. If he can play Forbes game (usually the easiest one in offense) then maybe it'll work out.

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[vander]

Every time I watch these highlight vids it's a Toros loss.
Walker should be one of the best players in the D league right? there can't be very many higher draft picks than Walker playing in the Dleague.
Plus the Toros got 2 other guys who should/could make the Spurs roster next year in Eubanks and Metu...

[ceperez]

Every time I watch these highlight vids it's a Toros loss.
Walker should be one of the best players in the D league right? there can't be very many higher draft picks than Walker playing in the Dleague.
Plus the Toros got 2 other guys who should/could make the Spurs roster next year in Eubanks and Metu...

Toros keep losing this year. I don't know what happened.

[BackHome]

It started when they lost Nick Johnson he was pretty good PG on offense and defense. Also they working in different guys now getting more minutes to see what they have ie. Ben Moore.

[ace3g]

Spurs recall Metu from Austin.

[dbestpro]

Every time I watch these highlight vids it's a Toros loss.
Walker should be one of the best players in the D league right? there can't be very many higher draft picks than Walker playing in the Dleague.
Plus the Toros got 2 other guys who should/could make the Spurs roster next year in Eubanks and Metu...

Metu is several years away from being a rotation player. Eubanks is the great mystery. Either the Spurs or another team will find a way to make him a rotation player.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nZ6qMgeSc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aujueXuuqQ

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nZ6qMgeSc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aujueXuuqQ
For a minute there I thought it was Brickowsky. Eubanks is a bruiser and I think we need a guy like him. I can’t wait for Moore or especially Huestis to develop. We need their athleticism tbh

[BackHome]

Ben is 23 Huestis is 27 I think I think I’ll give the edge to Moore he is pretty athletic and is a good defender but he should be working on his outside shooting. I would like to see him and Eubanks be both called up and see what we really have.

[ceperez]

Ben is 23 Huestis is 27 I think I think I’ll give the edge to Moore he is pretty athletic and is a good defender but he should be working on his outside shooting. I would like to see him and Eubanks be both called up and see what we really have.

Ben appears to have long arms. All the plays though look below the rim.

[pad300]

Ben appears to have long arms. All the plays though look below the rim.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Moore-72626/

6'10.5" Which is nothing special for a 6'7" (in shoes) guy.

[exstatic]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Moore-72626/

6'10.5" Which is nothing special for a 6'7" (in shoes) guy.

When you're measuring the disparity between height and wingspan, you do NOT add the shoes. That's how the NBA combine measures you: no shoes. :lol He's probably 6'5.5"

[pad300]

When you're measuring the disparity between height and wingspan, you do NOT add the shoes. That's how the NBA combine measures you: no shoes. :lol He's probably 6'5.5"

That does not matter a bit provided you are consistent about it. The nba measures players in shoes...because they play in shoes. For example, https://www.nbadraft.net/2009-nba-combine-measurement-analysis, Gerald Henderson 6'5" and 6'10.25". Harden 6'5" and 6'10.75". De Juan Blair at 6'6" and 7'2"...

[Twisted_Dawg]

For a minute there I thought it was Brickowsky. Eubanks is a bruiser and I think we need a guy like him. I can’t wait for Moore or especially Huestis to develop. We need their athleticism tbh

Funny you mentioned that. I was thinking the exact same thought that he looked a lot like Frank Brickowski.
Wonder if he is also a clubhouse lawyer?

[spurraider21]

is it just me or does lonnie's release look weird. looks like he holds it out too far ahead of him, exposing it quite a bit. and the release point is about as high as his face, not above like you typically see

[exstatic]

That does not matter a bit provided you are consistent about it. The nba measures players in shoes...because they play in shoes. For example, https://www.nbadraft.net/2009-nba-combine-measurement-analysis, Gerald Henderson 6'5" and 6'10.25". Harden 6'5" and 6'10.75". De Juan Blair at 6'6" and 7'2"...

You obviously cannot read. PLAYERS ARE MEASURED WITHOUT SHOES AT THE COMBINE.

What teams do with their game programs or websites is their own business.

[Chinook]

You obviously cannot read. PLAYERS ARE MEASURED WITHOUT SHOES AT THE COMBINE.

What teams do with their game programs or websites is their own business.

They take both measurements during the combine.

[ceperez]

Well, looks like Memphis might sign Caboclo long term: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/grizzlies-bruno-caboclo-career-high-16-points-in-loss/

[duncan2150]

I watched Caboclo two times with Memphis, he is not that good for the moment. People are a little bit crazy about him..... i agree about something, he still can develop into a nice player. We'll see.

[ceperez]

I watched Caboclo two times with Memphis, he is not that good for the moment. People are a little bit crazy about him..... i agree about something, he still can develop into a nice player. We'll see.

Here's one thing that's true, you can't teach wingspan.

[r0drig0lac]

Here's one thing that's true, you can't teach wingspan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=658ZNg1bWJA

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=658ZNg1bWJA

Total ineptitude of PATFO. The guy has potential. His only problem was he was drafted four years too early!

Caboclo is a poor-man's version of the Greek Freak.

I can't see why Spurs elite coaching staff can't train this guy to play better? He's already doing a lot more than Kyle Anderson could ever do.

[pad300]

Well, looks like Memphis might sign Caboclo long term: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/grizzlies-bruno-caboclo-career-high-16-points-in-loss/

I think they just signed him to a second 10 day contract on the 3ed of Feb...

[ceperez]

I think they just signed him to a second 10 day contract on the 3ed of Feb...

Let them kick the tires. Hope Spurs swoop in and grab this project.

[r0drig0lac]

Let them kick the tires. Hope Spurs swoop in and grab this project.

man, I understand the hype about Bruno's potential, but Spurs absolutely has no interest, heck, Spurs let pass developed players in Austin who clearly could play in the nba, (most recent cases are obviously Blossomgame and Washburn) to stay with guys like Pondexter, absolutely because they add veteran culture to the team, Bruno is more likely to return to Brazil to play in the nbb than to sign with the Spurs

[ceperez]

man, I understand the hype about Bruno's potential, but Spurs absolutely has no interest, heck, Spurs let pass developed players in Austin who clearly could play in the nba, (most recent cases are obviously Blossomgame and Washburn) to stay with guys like Pondexter, absolutely because they add veteran culture to the team, Bruno is more likely to return to Brazil to play in the nbb than to sign with the Spurs

Yeah, the odds are slim. I wouldn't have thought that Blossomgame or Washburn would have been signed by an NBA team.

The deal though with Caboclo is that he can't be signed on a two-way. So any team has a financial risk of locking him up.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, the odds are slim. I wouldn't have thought that Blossomgame or Washburn would have been signed by an NBA team.

The deal though with Caboclo is that he can't be signed on a two-way. So any team has a financial risk of locking him up.They're all still pretty, um, not good.

I know we all want that type of player, but none of those guys are making a difference in the NBA. Still have to start rolling the dice at some point.

[ceperez]

They're all still pretty, um, not good.

I know we all want that type of player, but none of those guys are making a difference in the NBA. Still have to start rolling the dice at some point.

Spurs aren't going to get a lottery pick anytime soon. What else can they do but gamble on ignored 20 something year olds?

[Pavlov]

Spurs aren't going to get a lottery pick anytime soon. What else can they do but gamble on ignored 20 something year olds?Right. It's just that these particular ones people here are pining for aren't doing much -- and I really like Blossomgame and Washburn.

[ace3g]

Spurs assign Metu to Austin for today's game @ 4pm.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7xGIJsqWo

[jermaine]

How tall is he? An when can he get called up? I'm so tired of Mills, Forbes, an Marco on the court at the same damn time.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7xGIJsqWo

Finally he's getting back into shape. Hope he eventually replaces Pondexter.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7xGIJsqWo

3pt shooting and playmaking ability? this is really exciting. bring this guy and we're two wings away from having a really competitive team

[Pavlov]

Nice for Travis. Sucks to be missing their only true point guard but it's just two games.

1095387160704884736

ETA: He's missing that international tourney, which sucks too....

[BD24]

Bruno playing really well defensively against the Spurs tbh

[ceperez]

Bruno playing really well defensively against the Spurs tbh

Spurs really need some length. Right now they are having a ton of trouble against a long (but disorganized) Grizzlies team.

[John B]

Spurs could’ve used him tbh

[BackHome]

We’re tanking don’t ya now.

[sasaint]

We’re tanking don’t ya now.

No, we are not. We are just bad.

[BackHome]

True Dat. :lmao

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs Acquire Devon Bookert and Jeff Coby
https://austin.gleague.nba.com/news/austin-spurs-acquire-devon-bookert-and-jeff-coby/?fbclid=IwAR2H3xFbsNLA3AfOepjv_qq4A9oIsSa7WG6D2Bdm yzWZof0am7jng8kUKKY

[duncan2150]

Bruno playing really well defensively against the Spurs tbh

still not impressed by him after watching the game but he looks good defensively.

[ceperez]

still not impressed by him after watching the game but he looks good defensively.

Well that's the entire point! Spurs defense is non-existent!

[ZeusWillJudge]

Nice for Travis. Sucks to be missing their only true point guard but it's just two games.


I wish the SA Spurs had a true PG. Good on Trice for getting that call.

[ceperez]

Damn... https://929espn.radio.com/articles/grizzlies-sign-bruno-caboclo-2-year-deal

Two years

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2019/2/12/18221374/investing-in-bruno-caboclo-ten-day-memphis-grizzlies-nba

[duncan2150]

Well that's the entire point! Spurs defense is non-existent!

Not sure he could have a real impact, ok he can block shots but can he guard some big PF or some quick SF/SG ?

[exstatic]

Damn... https://929espn.radio.com/articles/grizzlies-sign-bruno-caboclo-2-year-deal

Two years

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2019/2/12/18221374/investing-in-bruno-caboclo-ten-day-memphis-grizzlies-nba

Yeah, he's shooting 33.3% overall and 25% from downtown. He missed TWO bunny layups last night, including one where he was completely unguarded. He's going to be hard to develop on an NBA contract, since he would have to agree to any stint in the g-league.

[ceperez]

Yeah, he's shooting 33.3% overall and 25% from downtown. He missed TWO bunny layups last night, including one where he was completely unguarded. He's going to be hard to develop on an NBA contract, since he would have to agree to any stint in the g-league.

Has either Pondexter or Cunningham blocked a shot in 2019?

[exstatic]

Has either Pondexter or Cunningham blocked a shot in 2019?

Who cares? Being long and rangy won't turn you into an NBA player if you only have one outlier skill.

[duncan2150]

You can compare a lot of players To pondexter or cunnigham and they will be better. That’s not the point, it’s more if the Spurs will be better with caboclo ? I’m not sure and i prefer a real pg or a young wing who can defend on sg/sf and bring something To the team.

[ceperez]

Who cares? Being long and rangy won't turn you into an NBA player if you only have one outlier skill.

He already is back to being an NBA player. The Grizzlies signed him up for this year and next.

Just saying that the Spurs need to take some risks on players with a lot more length. Right now the Spurs aren't taking any risks and just signing guys who 'come early and stay late'.

The way the Spurs defend without getting called for fouls is that they rarely jump. To do this and be effective you need a lot of wingspan. Aldridge,Gay and Murray have this. Anderson, Kawhi, Green had this. Duncan had this.

Now we got short armed folks like Forbes, Bertans, Belinelli, Mills that aren't effective in defense.

[BackHome]

I agree like Mills and Forbes as cool guys but they just to damn short and they just can’t stop the man they are guarding or be any good at help side defense. A lot of guys just now come down and post up Mills or Forbes which then our help side defender has to leave his man and leaves wide open 3 shoot

[cd021]

He already is back to being an NBA player. The Grizzlies signed him up for this year and next.

Just saying that the Spurs need to take some risks on players with a lot more length. Right now the Spurs aren't taking any risks and just signing guys who 'come early and stay late'.

The way the Spurs defend without getting called for fouls is that they rarely jump. To do this and be effective you need a lot of wingspan. Aldridge,Gay and Murray have this. Anderson, Kawhi, Green had this. Duncan had this. Now we got short armed folks like Forbes, Bertans, Belinelli, Mills that aren't effective in defense.

Bertans has short arms but I don't think he's actually a bad defender- certainly not as bad as Forbes, Belinelli, and Mills at least.

[ceperez]

Bertans has short arms but I don't think he's actually a bad defender- certainly not as bad as Forbes, Belinelli, and Mills at least.

True, not as bad. He's 6'10".

I'm just saying that the Spurs need a SF with length.

[BackHome]

They need a bench that is athletic Mills and Forbes are both just to short in today’s NBA. Then you add Gasol and DEROZZ both not very good defenders and you got a very UN Spurs team. Hoping we draft some athletic guys to replace our non athletes.

[dbestpro]

Who cares? Being long and rangy won't turn you into an NBA player if you only have one outlier skill.
Rodman says hello. Bruce Bowen said hello too.

[r0drig0lac]

Rodman says hello. Bruce Bowen said hello too.

?

[ceperez]

Who cares? Being long and rangy won't turn you into an NBA player if you only have one outlier skill.

Gobert who beg to differ.... he actually even cried about it.

[exstatic]

Rodman says hello. Bruce Bowen said hello too.


Both Bowen AND Rodman were two skill players, All NBA defense and rebounding and All NBA defense and 3 point shooting. So far, Cabloco can miss layups, shoot 33%, and 25% from 3, and block some shots.

[cd021]

Gobert who beg to differ.... he actually even cried about it.

I think that is selling Golbert short by a lot. Brendan Wright had a similar body (granted shorter and not as long but as athletic) and didn't turn into what Golbert turned into.

Golbert is one of the best interior defender's in NBA history and has turned into a productive offensive player.

[cd021]

They need a bench that is athletic Mills and Forbes are both just to short in today’s NBA. Then you add Gasol and DEROZZ both not very good defenders and you got a very UN Spurs team. Hoping we draft some athletic guys to replace our non athletes.

You say bench but then mention two starters and a guy who barely plays as examples.

Murray returning to health, White becoming the sixth man and Poeltl being the exclusive backup 5 is probably the biggest change (and improvement) to the rotation next season unless the Spurs really manage to get a good wing prospect that can contribute immediately.

Spurs will suddenly have two above average defensive guards and two above average rim protectors which should significantly impact the defense.

[Dverde]

Didn’t Pop or the front office they are developing Metu as a small forward?

[exstatic]

Didn’t Pop or the front office they are developing Metu as a small forward?

I don't remember that. Some here say he should be a SF, but I think his lowest position number should be 4. He hasn't shown much of ANYTHING at the NBA level, and to expect him to suddenly acquire NBA level perimeter skills is probably too much to ask.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Flamengo/status/1096117728425975808

[dbestpro]

Both Bowen AND Rodman were two skill players, All NBA defense and rebounding and All NBA defense and 3 point shooting. So far, Cabloco can miss layups, shoot 33%, and 25% from 3, and block some shots.

Facepalm.

[Pavlov]

Playing the first game of the Rio tournament on Facebook now.

ETA also YouTube:

Y3ANLu_6ZNU

[Joseph Kony]

https://twitter.com/Flamengo/status/1096117728425975808

:lol that poor kid, probably doesnt even realize it's the AUSTIN spurs

[r0drig0lac]

this is literally the only team I support against the spurs

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NicolaLupo99/status/1096570284923150337


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBglM4Zi020

[John B]

https://twitter.com/NicolaLupo99/status/1096570284923150337


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBglM4Zi020
Even our D-League can’t get a break :lmao

[ceperez]

Even our D-League can’t get a break :lmao

This team has been losing a lot of games lately. Uncharacteristic for a Austin Spurs team.

[Pavlov]

Since Trice is with Team USA for a couple weeks wins will be tough to come by.

[r0drig0lac]

3th-4th live in youtube FIBA channel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgb1PHnHn5E

[ace3g]

Huestis with a nice drive and dunk.

https://twitter.com/canaldeportv/status/1097203088325337090


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0cXr6lo2ns

[Pavlov]

CROFL Joel Anthony

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1098971303007141888

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW1Pemno1cM

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW1Pemno1cM

It's nice to see him recover and add things to his game, unfortunately he'll probably be in gsw, rox, okc or lakers next season

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW1Pemno1cM

His shot is less hesitant now. But, 4 - 11 from 3 at 36%. Still needs improvement.

[exstatic]

His shot is less hesitant now. But, 4 - 11 from 3 at 36%. Still needs improvement.

36% is just fine. If he shoots 100 shots, he’d score 108 points. To score that many points shooting twos, you’d need to hit 54%. If he could shoot 36% in the NBA, he’d be on someone’s roster as a 3 and D guy.

[dbestpro]

36% is just fine. If he shoots 100 shots, he’d score 108 points. To score that many points shooting twos, you’d need to hit 54%. If he could shoot 36% in the NBA, he’d be on someone’s roster as a 3 and D guy.

Would be nice if the Spurs would at least kick the tires on this guy to see if he could help down the stretch.

[exstatic]

Would be nice if the Spurs would at least kick the tires on this guy to see if he could help down the stretch.

It’s easy to talk about kicking the tires. If they cut Pon or Cunningham, though, that costs the team several hundred thousand dollars to kick the tires on a 15th man who may never develop. Invite him to training camp again, though, and hope he has better luck with his health.

[ace3g]

Game tonight:



Austin (https://austin.gleague.nba.com)
Agua Caliente (https://aguacaliente.gleague.nba.com)



Citizens Business Bank Arena
Sunday, February 24, 2019 @ 6:00 pm ET

[ace3g]

36% is just fine. If he shoots 100 shots, he’d score 108 points. To score that many points shooting twos, you’d need to hit 54%. If he could shoot 36% in the NBA, he’d be on someone’s roster as a 3 and D guy.

+1

I'd also like to see his rebounding numbers improve but with his defensive instincts still there after the injury and less hesitation to shoot - Spurs might have something if they are able to keep him in the future.

[ceperez]

It’s easy to talk about kicking the tires. If they cut Pon or Cunningham, though, that costs the team several hundred thousand dollars to kick the tires on a 15th man who may never develop. Invite him to training camp again, though, and hope he has better luck with his health.

How much did it cost the Spurs to waive Rasual Butler for Kevin Martin (just to kick the tires during the playoffs)?

They'll do it if it makes sense basketball wise and not because $100k is at stake.

[dbestpro]

It’s easy to talk about kicking the tires. If they cut Pon or Cunningham, though, that costs the team several hundred thousand dollars to kick the tires on a 15th man who may never develop. Invite him to training camp again, though, and hope he has better luck with his health.

Chump change in NBA terms or keep players who will be lucky to be in the league next year. If you can't take a risk to see if you got something with the 15th position then you either are a complete team or in complete denial.

[ace3g]

Still odd Spurs didn't keep 15th spot open to tryout 10-day and G-League players.

[ace3g]

Spurs lose

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/) 34
SF
36
8-16
2-5
1-1
-15
3
5
8
1
0
0
1
1
0
19

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDXZghOQ-w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnF9ENQTIYc

[r0drig0lac]

Huestis adding things to his game, there is no reason to have Pondexter and Dante on the currently roster.

[ceperez]

Huestis adding things to his game, there is no reason to have Pondexter and Dante on the currently roster.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Austin keeps on losing! Something is wrong with the Spurs system or maybe this new way of playing exposes the Spurs system.

[Pavlov]

I don't know if you've noticed, but Austin keeps on losing! Something is wrong with the Spurs system or maybe this new way of playing exposes the Spurs system.
Their only point guard is playing for the national team.

[Drom John]

G League is "kicking the tires."
"Taking him out for a spin" would be a call-up.

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
SF
32
6-10
1-4
1-2
4
2
2
4
2
3
2
0
4
0
14


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
PF
35
5-12
2-5
1-2
2
10
4
14
5
1
4
5
0
0
13


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/)

14
C
29
6-14
0-0
4-4
-3
2
3
5
1
4
0
0
1
0
16


Devon
Bookert
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628760/)

13
SG
20
0-3
0-2
0-0
7
1
4
5
4
2
0
1
0
0
0


Lonnie
Walker IV
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629022/)

1
PG
32
10-25
0-4
8-8
4
1
2

3
4
4
3
3
0
1
28





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAqMZfM_d_w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4F9fvHO_mc

[ceperez]

Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
SF
32
6-10
1-4
1-2
4
2
2
4
2
3
2
0
4
0
14


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
PF
35
5-12
2-5
1-2
2
10
4
14
5
1
4
5
0
0
13


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/)

14
C
29
6-14
0-0
4-4
-3
2
3
5
1
4
0
0
1
0
16


Devon
Bookert
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628760/)

13
SG
20
0-3
0-2
0-0
7
1
4
5
4
2
0
1
0
0
0


Lonnie
Walker IV
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629022/)

1
PG
32
10-25
0-4
8-8
4
1
2

3
4
4
3
3
0
1
28





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAqMZfM_d_w


4 blocks shots and 2 steals.. nice..

[Indianman]

I know it's just one game but if Lonnie can keep this up, there is no reason why he would not be a 11th string player or so the next year.
He needs some defensive positioning as well, imo.

[BackHome]

I am really surprised Ben Moore has not been called up at all this year

[ace3g]

^ hard to call anyone up when we don't have an open roster spot, unfortunate situation...

[ace3g]

Spurs get the win 117-106

Austin Spurs





POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
SF
33
4-9
2-5
0-0
16
3
8
11
4
3
1
0
1
0
10


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
PF
32
5-10
2-2
2-3
12
5
6
11
4
2
2
1
1
0
14





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SNgM5Y9es

[John B]

Spurs get the win 117-106

Austin Spurs





POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
SF
33
4-9
2-5
0-0
16
3
8
11
4
3
1
0
1
0
10


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
PF
32
5-10
2-2
2-3
12
5
6
11
4
2
2
1
1
0
14





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SNgM5Y9es
Shots looking good and look like in rhythm. I’m excited for this guy to break the rotation

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAwtnEiHUHM

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs need to get rid of forbes, mills contract and maybe ddr if he doesnt work out

3 roster spots open and tank mode? why not

[palangi]

spurs need to get rid of forbes, mills contract and maybe ddr if he doesnt work out

3 roster spots open and tank mode? why not

Really? Not poindexter or Cunningham?
I would cut those two and bring huestis and moore up. And still have a spot to find another talent

[exstatic]

Really? Not poindexter or Cunningham?
I would cut those two and bring huestis and moore up. And still have a spot to find another talent

There’s an open roster spot for Josh, and Moore is a two way, so he doesn’t require a spot. They could both be in SA tomorrow if the team wanted them.

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
SF
34
4-8
1-3
2-2
6
4
3
7
6
3
0
2
1
0
11


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
PF
32
6-15
4-9
0-0
-13
4
4
8
1
4
1
3
2
0
16





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYq-0MUoqI0

[John B]

Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/)

26
SF
34
4-8
1-3
2-2
6
4
3
7
6
3
0
2
1
0
11


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/)

34
PF
32
6-15
4-9
0-0
-13
4
4
8
1
4
1
3
2
0
16





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYq-0MUoqI0
4-9 on 3PM is not bad. But 6-15 FGA? Wow.

[Degoat]

I wish the spurs would give huestis a 10 day contract or something, see how he performs in the big league

[ceperez]

4-9 on 3PM is not bad. But 6-15 FGA? Wow.

It's the 3point percentages that are important. With all the mid-range players that Spurs have (Aldridge, DeRozan, Gay), Heustis isn't going to be asked to create offense.

Spurs need DEFENSE immediately.

Where can Heustis be slotted in to be useful. Not with the starting five.

What about the bench? Mills, Belinelli, Heustis, Bertans, Eubanks

The alternatives, with Walker IV - Too small Mills, Walker, Belinelli, Bertans, Eubanks
With Cunningham - Too slow in defense Mills, Belinelli, Bertans, Cunningham, Eubanks
With PonDexter - Too small - Mills, PonDexter, Belinlli, Bertans, Eubanks

[exstatic]

I wish the spurs would give huestis a 10 day contract or something, see how he performs in the big league

There's already a body of work with OKC to show how he plays in NBA minutes.

[BackHome]

Both Huestis and Moore have NBA experience would like to see both of them get the Green light on shooting 3 and offensive game. I like Moore cause he is younger and he is consistent in that he is almost always going to get close to a double double - rebounding and scoring. Plus last game he has I think 6 assist so overall I like what he brings.

Last 3 games total:
Moore
Rebounds- 32
Assists - 12
Points- 35

Huestis
Rebounds -23
Assists - 5
Points - 39

[r0drig0lac]

Both Huestis and Moore have NBA experience would like to see both of them get the Green light on shooting 3 and offensive game. I like Moore cause he is younger and he is consistent in that he is almost always going to get close to a double double - rebounding and scoring. Plus last game he has I think 6 assist so overall I like what he brings.

Last 3 games total:
Moore
Rebounds- 32
Assists - 12
Points- 35

Huestis
Rebounds -23
Assists - 5
Points - 39

I would like to see both on the main team replacing Dante and Quincy (who do not add anything to the team)

[jjktkk]

I would like to see both on the main team replacing Dante and Quincy (who do not add anything to the team)

The Spurs are going to be in playoff mode from now on. Neither one of these two would get any playing time.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEY1AkX85TI

[Chinook]

Walker should be fine getting his shot off at the NBA level. Anyone who thinks he doesn't have any NBA-caliber skills hasn't watched his floor game. He's a guy who really has to become "solid" so that his more superlative traits can shine.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Wow some of those drives were impressive. Looks like he’s getting his athleticism back and getting more confident making those kind of plays.

[GAustex]

Those moves would work in the big league
Wish he could show some of that with the parent club

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Attacking the rim much more often now instead of settling for midrange Js. Definite improvement compared to earlier in the season. His shot looks great as always.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEY1AkX85TI

They still lost that game. But at least you see that he's got a ton of potential!

Under the Spurs system, WalkerIV can take that talent and refine it to be more controlled and accurate. Very promising!!

If he can shoot anywhere near the accuracy of Forbes, then he'll be golden!

[exstatic]

Thank god for Austin. LW IV seems to have his mojo back, and he never would have played enough in SA for that to happen.

Oh, and I don’t give a flying fuck if Austin ever wins. Their purpose is to instill fundamentals in young players like Lonnie. He needs a crossover. He needs a rocker step move. He needs to learn to post up smaller players. He needs to learn both team and individual defense. That’s why farm teams exist: so any mistakes and growing pains are inconsequential.

[BackHome]

As long as he can stay healthy he is the real deal. Yeah lots of stuff he can improve upon but he was drafted on potential meaning two or three years of G League for everything to catch up.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBiZaJoyP0

Was trying to post video of LWIV and Ben Moore but no clips for gleague YT.

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/) 34
SF
28
4-10
3-5
0-0
-1
1
4
5
1
2
0
2
2
1
11


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/) 26
PF
34
6-7
1-1
4-4
33
7
10
17
2
4
1
1
1
0
17


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14
C
20
6-8
0-0
2-3
10
1
4
5
0
2
0
0
3
1
14


Lonnie
Walker IV
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629022/) 1
SG
29
7-17
0-2
0-0
28
0
4
4
3
2
1
0
2
1
14

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBiZaJoyP0

Was trying to post video of LWIV and Ben Moore but no clips for gleague YT.

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Josh
Huestis
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/203962/) 34
SF
28
4-10
3-5
0-0
-1
1
4
5
1
2
0
2
2
1
11


Ben
Moore
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1628500/) 26
PF
34
6-7
1-1
4-4
33
7
10
17
2
4
1
1
1
0
17


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14
C
20
6-8
0-0
2-3
10
1
4
5
0
2
0
0
3
1
14


Lonnie
Walker IV
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629022/) 1
SG
29
7-17
0-2
0-0
28
0
4
4
3
2
1
0
2
1
14




Ben Moore https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smishocked.gif

[BackHome]

Like I said before Ben Moore is going to give you a double double every game.

[palangi]

Huestis, moore, Walker, metu, and eubanks are all interesting future options.

[R. DeMurre]

I don't get why so many here think Josh Huestis has such NBA potential. His +/- stats with Austin are beyond mediocre (in the g League!). He's a net negative player on that team... there are tons of players who dominate down there and still can't secure a spot on an NBA team. DeJuan Blair has a better chance of being called up.

[Dverde]

I don't get why so many here think Josh Huestis has such NBA potential. His +/- stats with Austin are beyond mediocre (in the g League!). He's a net negative player on that team... there are tons of players who dominate down there and still can't secure a spot on an NBA team. DeJuan Blair has a better chance of being called up.

Blair’s number won’t be called. At Whataburger, they bring the food to you. He just leaves the number at the table.

[palangi]

I don't get why so many here think Josh Huestis has such NBA potential. His +/- stats with Austin are beyond mediocre (in the g League!). He's a net negative player on that team... there are tons of players who dominate down there and still can't secure a spot on an NBA team. DeJuan Blair has a better chance of being called up.

As a rotational guy he has potential. He had it early in his career and now his offensive game seems to have improved

[John B]

Ben Moore :wow
17 rebounds for Moore. Wow

[exstatic]

As a rotational guy he has potential. He had it early in his career and now his offensive game seems to have improved

No, it hasn’t. Look at his stats, old school or analytics. They suck donky balls. Don’t be fooled by YouTube clips. They only show the good stuff.

I’ve been wondering why they haven’t brought Moore up. He’s a two way, and wouldn’t take up a roster spot. Then, it occurred to me that they may be hiding him, so that no one else can sign him after the g-league season ends.

[duncan2150]

I don't get why so many here think Josh Huestis has such NBA potential. His +/- stats with Austin are beyond mediocre (in the g League!). He's a net negative player on that team... there are tons of players who dominate down there and still can't secure a spot on an NBA team. DeJuan Blair has a better chance of being called up.

I don’t Think people are that high on huestis here. If you tell me who i prefer i will go with moore or eubanks. If huestis can defend on sg and sf he could be interesting but i don’t Know match about that.

[duncan2150]

I’ve been wondering why they haven’t brought Moore up. He’s a two way, and wouldn’t take up a roster spot. Then, it occurred to me that they may be hiding him, so that no one else can sign him after the g-league season ends.

can you explain that please ?

[exstatic]

can you explain that please ?


No, it hasn’t. Look at his stats, old school or analytics. They suck donky balls. Don’t be fooled by YouTube clips. They only show the good stuff.

I’ve been wondering why they haven’t brought Moore up. He’s a two way, and wouldn’t take up a roster spot. Then, it occurred to me that they may be hiding him, so that no one else can sign him after the g-league season ends.

[duncan2150]

I was thinking about a rule... but you mean, as no team will see moore, nobody will make a good offer To him?

[exstatic]

I was thinking about a rule... but you mean, as no team will see moore, nobody will make a good offer To him?

Right.

[John B]

If he’s good, why don’t they just sign him. For sure Spurs need an athletic SF who can help provide both defense and offense, especially when Gay is out. Or is he not what they’re looking for? I don’t know the rules, but is the roster fixed now going in the playoffs or can they still sign a free agent?

[exstatic]

If he’s good, why don’t they just sign him. For sure Spurs need an athletic SF who can help provide both defense and offense, especially when Gay is out. Or is he not what they’re looking for? I don’t know the rules, but is the roster fixed now going in the playoffs or can they still sign a free agent?

He's not really a SF, but more of a PF in a SF body. He's leading the ASpurs in rebounding(9.2), with more per game than Eubanks(7.7), Brimha(8.1), and Metu(7.3). I think he currently lacks the perimeter skills to play on the wing, other than shooting.

[John B]

He's not really a SF, but more of a PF in a SF body. He's leading the ASpurs in rebounding(9.2), with more per game than Eubanks(7.7), Brimha(8.1), and Metu(7.3). I think he currently lacks the perimeter skills to play on the wing, other than shooting.
So they’re still looking from outside, but can they still sign? Or did that already pass? Is this the final roster going to the playoffs? Because we’re thin, and one injury away from being eliminated.

[exstatic]

So they’re still looking from outside, but can they still sign? Or did that already pass? Is this the final roster going to the playoffs? Because we’re thin, and one injury away from being eliminated.

Moore won't change that. He's a d-leaguer with potential, but would immediately be the 15th man on the roster if he were signed. To have some effect on this team, he needs to go through a training camp, learn the system on both sides of the ball, and earn some PT. I think he can do it, but he won't be any help this year.

[John B]

Moore won't change that. He's a d-leaguer with potential, but would immediately be the 15th man on the roster if he were signed. To have some effect on this team, he needs to go through a training camp, learn the system on both sides of the ball, and earn some PT. I think he can do it, but he won't be any help this year.
Thank you. I love Eubanks getting some minutes and he’s a quicker body than Gasol. But I hope they still can get that elusive SF to defend long perimeter players, because Dante is not it.

[BackHome]

Moore won't change that. He's a d-leaguer with potential, but would immediately be the 15th man on the roster if he were signed. To have some effect on this team, he needs to go through a training camp, learn the system on both sides of the ball, and earn some PT. I think he can do it, but he won't be any help this year.

Agree with you I really like Moore but he played a lot of Center at SMU so making adjustment to PF/SF will take time and coaching so he is perfect for G League. I like the fact that Larry Brown coached him and recruited him a nice article about Brown making him run PG duties in practice for a whole year to round out his game. He has the hops he has the Spurs character loves playing defense he just needs to work on offense side his 3 ball and mid range.

[exstatic]

Agree with you I really like Moore but he played a lot of Center at SMU so making adjustment to PF/SF will take time and coaching so he is perfect for G League. I like the fact that Larry Brown coached him and recruited him a nice article about Brown making him run PG duties in practice for a whole year to round out his game. He has the hops he has the Spurs character loves playing defense he just needs to work on offense side his 3 ball and mid range.

He'll turn 24 at the end of May. If they get him into camp next year, I think he has a good shot. He has the one thing you can't teach: an understanding of the game. Larry Brown said he just always knew the right play to make. I think he can transition to the wing with a lot of hard work.

[ceperez]

Consider that

(1) Spurs have 3 draft picks next year
(2) There a ton of free agents available next year
(3) Pondexter, Cunningham are expiring contracts
(4) Gay will be resigned
(4) There are only 3 spots open next year

Signed players next year:
mills/murray/forbes/white/walker
derozan/belinelli/bertans
aldridge/poetl/metu

So 3 spots for draft picks, free agents and g-league openings.
2 spots for two-way contracts

[exstatic]

Consider that

(1) Spurs have 3 draft picks next year
(2) There a ton of free agents available next year
(3) Pondexter, Cunningham are expiring contracts
(4) Gay will be resigned
(4) There are only 3 spots open next year

Signed players next year:
mills/murray/forbes/white/walker
derozan/belinelli/bertans
aldridge/poetl/metu

So 3 spots for draft picks, free agents and g-league openings.
2 spots for two-way contracts

Two-ways don't count against your 15 man roster. That's why they were invented, in order to pay two guys in the d-league MORE money and still get them some limited big club minutes without leaving your team short handed when they're down on the farm team.

I'm also not writing Metu's name in pen on the 15 man roster coming out of camp next fall. He's sucked pretty badly in NBA minutes, and would be a cheap cut at less than $1M. If they cut Metu, that leaves FIVE open spots, and maybe three draft picks (or less?) to go against that count.

[duncan2150]

You mean four if we sign Rudy gay and cut metu.

A lot will depends on the draft, if we take a guard it’s Sure that one of our guard will go for example.

imo one player of the actual roster will not be there next year, could be metu or other, minus pon and cun , plus 2 picks and you have Two slots for free agency.

[BackHome]

If we don’t draft a big it’s almost a guarantee that we sign Eubanks you can tell Metu is not happy as a big with a signed contract loosing playing time to a undrafted player.