Austin Toros Info

[exstatic]

I think Metu can play the 5 when teams go small but his majority of minutes will be at PF. He is not athletic enough to guard quick SF or big enough to handle big centers.

We all know this team is not constructed to go far if they make the playoffs that is why I would entertain any good trade for DEROZZ and LMA. But the trade would have to net us draft picks or young potential or a position of need such as SF.

Do the trade and bring over Nikola and then bring up Luka and Keldon next year to start the growth.

I get the feeling that Nikola is one that will stay in Europe and never come over. He was drafted immediately before all of the rules changes that were designed to allow teams to force switches on the perimeter. He’s a dinosaur, a big lumbering guy who will never be able to keep his switch assignment in front of him.

[BackHome]

Yeah your probably right I just miss the old days back to the rim basketball players dunking on each other.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Keldon has 15 points and is 2-4 from 3P to start the 4th, along with 5 boards and 2 STL's.

Sammich is 0-for-the-world.

[BackHome]

People forget that early on Keldon was looking at being a top 10 pick then for what ever reason his stock took a hit. As far as NBA ready Keldon is much further along then Luka we all know they took a chance with Luka betting his potential can be achieved in two or three years in G League.

[ZeusWillJudge]

People forget that early on Keldon was looking at being a top 10 pick then for what ever reason his stock took a hit. As far as NBA ready Keldon is much further along then Luka we all know they took a chance with Luka betting his potential can be achieved in two or three years in G League.


I was never a believer in Samanic, and I was pretty vocal about it before the draft. I hope he proves me wrong and people come back to tell me, "I told you so". I'm not holding my breath.

Spoon had another good game. But he's feasting on layups and FT's. They aren't going to give him that in the NBA. I was really hoping he could be a Forbes replacement. He's got a good stroke, and he defends better than Bryn ever did. Any upgrade is an upgrade. But I'm pretty disappointed that he's not getting up more 3's. He was good tonight helping the Spurs get a come from behind win, but Ledbetter got subbed in for him down the stretch and immediately started knocking down the long ball.

[gospursgojas]

KJ looked better than Lonnie in summer league.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I've been watching all year, He is 4th in the pecking order behind KJ, Luka, adn Lawson. I'd bet a C note that Weatherspoon would own Forbe's in practice shirts vs skins or one on one. The Austin Spurs don't shoot at a high clip for 3's just like the Mothership doesn't. They lost several games because the other team shot and made more 3's so there aren't that many opportunities for them to go around in that "corporate knowledge system"


And I haven't, so I'll go with what you say. Spoon was one of the dark horses I watched in college, and hoped the Spurs might pick up. But he's really going to have to have the 3 ball in his arsenal to take the next step, I think. Still being a defensive upgrade to Forbes isn't a big hurdle to jump. :lol

Yeah, I imagine coloring outside the lines in the Spurs' farm system wouldn't be a recipe for success.

[Sugus]

And I haven't, so I'll go with what you say. Spoon was one of the dark horses I watched in college, and hoped the Spurs might pick up. But he's really going to have to have the 3 ball in his arsenal to take the next step, I think. Still being a defensive upgrade to Forbes isn't a big hurdle to jump. :lol

Yeah, I imagine coloring outside the lines in the Spurs' farm system wouldn't be a recipe for success.

The problem is - unless Weatherspoon increases both his 3pt volume and efficiency, is there any reason, as far as Pop goes, to play him or even start him over Forbes? We know the main reason is that Forbes outright sucks, but Pop is visibly oblivious to this, so there needs to be another metric that puts Q solidly above Bryn for Pop to even consider making that switch. Forbes, to every Spurs fan's dismay, has tasted starting minutes and liked it, and he doesn't have a leash on him at all at the moment which I don't see changing any time soon... Austin as a whole needs to get with the 3pt program -- Keldon, Luka, Spoon, even fucking Metu should be chucking from distance.

[Dejounte]

What a game by Luka. His best since gleague started.

[Degoat]

Pretty solid outing for all of the young guys :flag:

[ZeusWillJudge]

What a game by Luka. His best since gleague started.


Big numbers for him. I'm pretty pleased that Keldon is showing consistency. He had 17pts, 7 RB, and 7 AST tonight, 6-9 overall shooting and 1-2 from 3P. His 3P volume is low, but at least he's shooting a good percentage now.

[ZeusWillJudge]

BTW - Max Strus had 23 points, 6 boards, 2 ast, and a block tonight against Austin. He was "only" 6-16 from 3P (.375) and that's not outrageous for him. Spurs could have had him for a min contract.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NEHGvDKsXs

[talkspurs]

noticed Luka had some post up plays in there. Has he gotten bigger or is that just because he is playing against the Gleague players?

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NEHGvDKsXs


I like seeing him play strong with his back to the basket. On any given night a guy might hit some 3's, but backing down a big man and finishing strong isn't a fluke. Really he did a little of everything. Back to the basket, off the dribble, trailing on the break, spot up 3. That's probably the first time I've seen all the skills on display.

Now I've gotta ask anyone who was there - how was his D?

[ceperez]

How was Bertan's D when he traded him for nothing?

[Sugus]

How was Bertan's D when he traded him for nothing?

Very bad.

[BackHome]

I think we got two really good draft picks and I am hoping Poop and RC can do another trade that nets us another first round pick.
1. Josh Green - SG - 6’6 - Arizona - 19yrs
2. Onyeka Okongwu - PF - 6’9 - USC - 19yrs
3. Cassius Stanley - SG - 6’6 - Duke - 20yrs
4. Jalen Smith - PF - 6’10 - Maryland - 20yrs

[ace3g]

Spurs playing tonight

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20191217/AUSWIS/

[Dejounte]

Typical Other Luka game,
he can't do it on a consistent basis in the G league. Has a "big game" plays 30+ minutes he is trash the verry next game especially with on 1 days 'rest'. His durability is a Problem folks. Kelodn did good in this one though his game is sorta Paul Pierce esq. Witherspoon was trash though

Paul Pierce is who Keldon says he models his game after during one of his college interviews.

Keldon is going to be a beast for us. He is the DeRozan replacement we need.

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/) 0
SF
32
12-17
4-5
2-2
-16
1
6
7
2
3
2
6
0
0
32


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/) 19
PF
31
2-10
1-9
3-4
-7
0
6
6
1
2
2
4
1
0
10


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14
C
30
8-13
0-0
2-3
-3
3
4
7
0
3
0
1
3
0
19


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/) 15
SG
30
3-11
0-4
1-1
-7
0
3
3
4
4
2
3
0
1
7


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/) 25
PG
26
2-2
0-0
0-0
1
0
2
2
6
2
0
3
0
0
4


Matt
Farrell
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629393/) 4

18
4-9
1-3
0-0
-10
1
0
1
2
3
1
0
0
0
9


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/) 2

17
3-7
3-7
0-0
1
1
2
3
3
2
0
3
0
0
9


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/) 5

17
1-6
0-4
0-0
-1
5
7
12
3
1
0
0
1
1
2


Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/) 24

15
2-5
1-4
1-2
8
0
2
2
1
0
0
1
1
0
7


Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/) 34

19
4-8
3-7
3-3
4
0
6
6
0
2
1
0
2
0
15

[Dejounte]

He looks to have grown an inch or two was taller than Tucker and about the same size as Cameron Reynolds. Looks a Solid 6'6" and 227 ish. I'll take him at small forward over Derozan just on his attitude alone. The Austin Spurs execute those "Spurs" sets better than the Actual Spurs. Sad Sad Sad.

Keldon makes winning plays and is a dog.

I wouldn't rag on Luka much, I think he will get it sooner than later. If he improves his ball security, hes going to be a helluva player. Also needs to learn to improve his defensive stance....sometimes he looks like hes just standing there.

[Degoat]

Keldon is a beast! :flag:

[ZeusWillJudge]

That's a hell of a game from Keldon. The 6 TO's is a little much. He's been a little turnover prone so far, and he's got to get that tightened up, because they'll eat him up at the next level. But I'd give him 100% of Beli's minutes right now. He's probably better off getting the run in Austin, but I'd love to see him in SA.

Any of you who actually saw the game: How does a guy who puts up 32 points in 32 minutes wind up with a -16 and the worst +/- of the night?

[Dejounte]

That's a hell of a game from Keldon. The 6 TO's is a little much. He's been a little turnover prone so far, and he's got to get that tightened up, because they'll eat him up at the next level. But I'd give him 100% of Beli's minutes right now. He's probably better off getting the run in Austin, but I'd love to see him in SA.

Any of you who actually saw the game: How does a guy who puts up 32 points in 32 minutes wind up with a -16 and the worst +/- of the night?

The opposing team were on fire during the first Q (or was it second? I forgot) and were up like 20 points. This was during when Keldon was on the floor. Im gonna guess thats why his plus/minus is low--because the other team had their huge run.

[Dejounte]

There is a difference between Keldon's turnovers and Luka's turnovers... Its hard to describe but I feel more confident about Keldon when he has his turnovers because often times it's when hes being aggressive versus dumb passes and poor ball handling by Luka. Not trying to knock Luka but moreso credit Keldon's abilities to make winning plays. It's sort of like Dwyane Wade back in the day.... He would turn the ball over so much but you kind of ignore it because he's going nuts against the other team.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1207142189421121537


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_6XnMxrg0

[ZeusWillJudge]

He is in the starting lineup and they were down 20+ points after the 1st which Keldon played most of Luka was getting force fed weatherspoon was shit and Eubanks got pushed around. Kelond put the team on his back and marshaled that comeback.


Yeah, I saw the quarter by quarter scores. Wisconsin must have been unconscious to put up 39 in the first quarter. Did Pop send Bryn down for the first quarter?

What I was trying to get to was how in the hell Keldon winds up -16, and the rest of the starters are -7 or better. It's a math thing. Even if Austin was -20 in the first with him in the game, for him to wind up -16 it means that they (the team) were only +4 the rest of the time he was in, including the comeback that he led.

Obviously it was some oddball events. I just wondered what it looked like.

[sasaint]

Keldon put this team on his back and was giving 100% effort till the last whistle, he has a MOTOR on him. Luka...not so much.

You sure about Luka? He shoots the ball with the touch of a mechanic.

[ZeusWillJudge]

They were down by 20+ when he came in the game with six thirty left in the second, ended the half down 10 or eleven. When he left in the 3rd, it was tied. Comes back in the game down 1 or tied 1 min left in the third. Was in the last 7 minutes of the 4th were the Herd won the game. Draw your own conclusion based on box score +/-(some guys around here were writing grades based on that ish for YEARS) or buy ESPN+ to watch the games for yourself.

I haven't found a way to get the games where I live. I wasn't doubting you - really the opposite. Just curious.

The +/- is shit for telling you who should get credit or blame for what happens during a game. But you can sure as shit say that the TEAM got outscored by 16 while KJ was in the game. You agree with that, don't you? And if he led a comeback for part of the game, it means they got outscored by even more during the other part.

I don't know why you constantly have that chip on your shoulder. If you don't like questions, you should probably just ignore them. :pop: "It's really not that complicated."

[Dancelot]

Keldon is gonna be the one good thing that comes out of the kawhi trade.

[Dejounte]

https://i.imgur.com/Z5AKIob.jpg

13 is Cameron Reynolds a 6'7"-6'8" guy 227 lbs Thats Hommes who is also 6' 7"-8" guy and Luka 6'11"(was real close to Bol Bol the other day but with no wingspan of Bol Bol)

https://i.imgur.com/Y9ARxP2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/o9XgbP7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HM4XuhM.jpg

Keldon looks to have lifts, hit a second growth spurt, or something. He is Long and Stout. Easily over 220lbs at this pont 6'6" ish with a crazy wingspan.

Cameron is kind of slouching in that photo next to Keldon. Its just sometimes ive seen Keldon next to DeMar and Keldon looks shorter than him. And DeMar is someone who I think is too short to play SF.

[jermaine]

Trade Forbes, play Keldon Johnson.

[RC_Drunkford]

That's a hell of a game from Keldon. The 6 TO's is a little much. He's been a little turnover prone so far, and he's got to get that tightened up, because they'll eat him up at the next level. But I'd give him 100% of Beli's minutes right now. He's probably better off getting the run in Austin, but I'd love to see him in SA.

Any of you who actually saw the game: How does a guy who puts up 32 points in 32 minutes wind up with a -16 and the worst +/- of the night?

I don't mind him turning it over a lot. Spurs development program is giving him a high usage rate to develop his game with the ball in his hand. Weather that's coming off picks or playmaking, he won't have that type of usage on the big team. He already has the 3-and-D game, so developing some more scoring and playmaking skills is exactly the right move

[ceperez]

Samanic doesn't turn 20 until next year. He definitely has more talent than he can imagine. He just needs to develop that motor.

Johnson definitely has a motor and hopefully he grows taller.

What sets guys like Pascal Siakam apart is that they have the size and the motor.

[rjv]

i wouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill with luka's inconsistency. the skill set is there. it was just a few weeks back that a good chunk of ST was labeling keldon a horrific three-point shooter.

[Dejounte]

If we are judging purely from Gleague performance... Keldon is our best prospect since Kawhi. Better than Lonnie (who did poorly in Gleague, better than White, better than DJ)

[John B]

Keldon is already a better spacer and defender than Demar imo.

[SpursDynasty85]

If we are judging purely from Gleague performance... Keldon is our best prospect since Kawhi. Better than Lonnie (who did poorly in Gleague, better than White, better than DJ)

IDK. Derrick White killed it with a winning team. Austin Toros looking pretty average this year.

[exstatic]

If we are judging purely from Gleague performance... Keldon is our best prospect since Kawhi. Better than Lonnie (who did poorly in Gleague, better than White, better than DJ)

Uh, Walker did just fine. In limited minutes playing a partial season recovering from meniscus surgery (27mpg - 29g) he scored 16.7p/2.9R/1.8a on 44 FG/36 3G/81 FT %s.

[Dejounte]

Uh, Walker did just fine. In limited minutes playing a partial season recovering from meniscus surgery (27mpg - 29g) he scored 16.7p/2.9R/1.8a on 44 FG/36 3G/81 FT %s.

Keldon in 29mpg

20p/6r/2a ... 54 fg/ 29 3p/ 86 ft

[SpursDynasty85]

They just lost to the League Leading Herd, who on the Herd would you trade Keldon For......



Using any team's wins or losses is a factor. Lots of bad players put up good stats on bad teams but can't do jack on a good team.


I thought so




Using G league Team Wins and Losses to gauge a Players Talent and Future

strange

winning the games matter.

[exstatic]

Keldon in 29mpg

20p/6r/2a ... 54 fg/ 29 3p/ 86 ft

Keldon is a bigger, more physical player, so more rebounds, but worse 3 point shooting. The actual word you used to describe the way that Lonnie played was 'poorly', and I showed that wasn't true, or even close to being true.

[ceperez]

Keldon in 29mpg

20p/6r/2a ... 54 fg/ 29 3p/ 86 ft

Interesting that Walker didn't do as well in the g-league.

I think Keldon is better at this point at forcing his way to score.

[rjv]

Using G league Team Wins and Losses to gauge a Players Talent and Future

strange

ST metrics.

[ace3g]

GLeague Showcase starts tomorrow.

[RC_Drunkford]

Cameron is kind of slouching in that photo next to Keldon. Its just sometimes ive seen Keldon next to DeMar and Keldon looks shorter than him. And DeMar is someone who I think is too short to play SF.

Keldon has a short neck, his frame is bigger than it seems

[ace3g]

Spurs game starts at 8

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20191219/AUSCPS/

[weebo]

Masai is at the Showcase, he is gonna steal Pippen from us

spurs will trade KJ and depression to the raps for marc gasol

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8mIA36g3jk

[Dejounte]

Thanks for the link earlier, Drew.

Keldon is a bucket. Getter. He makes difficult shots time and time again.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Woah, Keldon looks special. Yeah yeah it’s the Gleague but this kid has somethings you can’t teach.

He has a MOTOR on him and is just flat out tenacious. Kid just turned 20 he’s going to be a monster in his prime.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8mIA36g3jk



https://youtu.be/SngzI7IE3qA



Thanks guys. :bobo

[Marco]

PATFO did it again... *Fingers crossed*

[r0drig0lac]

both are already legitimate NBA players, they only need minutes.

[RC_Drunkford]

All 3 of those guys will be rotation players going forward. Luka and Keldon are very young, they will be legit starters at the forward spots

[Dejounte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8mIA36g3jk

Thats an elite finish at the 1:00 mark

[K...]

The post pop/LMA, DeRozan years are coming soon, maybe even next year. My greatest fear is that the medium class, Murray, white, mainly don't learn bad lessons. This is why I'm not big on them getting minutes because the minutes this year are cursed.

Keep Keldon away from pop please.

This is a dead team walking, dead coach, dead stars, and a FO who wants to burn it down to begin the new age.

[objective]

All 3 of those guys will be rotation players going forward. Luka and Keldon are very young, they will be legit starters at the forward spots

You're higher on those guys than I am.

I'm not holding my breath that Luka will turn out to be a legit starter. I could see his most likely good outcome being like Saric, which is fine for the pick-slot and would be starter-level. But I also think there's decent chance he'll never have a season as good as the rookie year of Brandon Clarke or even as impactful as Thybulle.

Johnson might be more, I'll have to pay more attention to him. He might be on target for a Dillon Brooks type if not better, who has started every game this year and averaged 14 points.

[ZeusWillJudge]

The Spurs are near the bottom of the league in transition defense and spot-up defense. Like 27 or worse in both, last I checked. That is what's losing most of these games for them.


Keldon plays defense. Beli plays no defense to speak of. It's probably better for Keldon if he stays in Austin a whole year. But he would be an upgrade on Beli right now. I don't know what was wrong with his 3P shooting to start the season, but he's starting to get to where I expected him to be on that, too. No reason why he wouldn't be a rotation player by next season.

[CGD]

Luka looks slightly beefier

[spurraider21]

luka reminds me of saric

and keldon modeling his game after pierce really shows. dude looks like a bull

[Maddog]

You're higher on those guys than I am.

I'm not holding my breath that Luka will turn out to be a legit starter. I could see his most likely good outcome being like Saric, which is fine for the pick-slot and would be starter-level. But I also think there's decent chance he'll never have a season as good as the rookie year of Brandon Clarke or even as impactful as Thybulle.

Johnson might be more, I'll have to pay more attention to him. He might be on target for a Dillon Brooks type if not better, who has started every game this year and averaged 14 points.
I agree the odds are Luka never be a starter, statistically a late teen pick is more often than not to

[BackHome]

Heck most mid to late teen picks are out of the NBA in 3 years so being a solid backup player is still good. I still think he can be special he is doing a little bit of everything shooting the 3, mid range, and even a little bully ball down low. But please don’t hold his NBA growth to Keldon who should be getting major minutes next year as a starter.

I like every year we replacing bad players we replaced QUINDY, and Poindexter with Keldon and Luka and hopefully we can swing a trade to get us another first round pick and replace Forbes, and Beli next year. And then replace Rudy,and Carrol and keep replacing and getting better.

[BackHome]

Heck most mid to late teen picks are out of the NBA in 3 years so being a solid backup player is still good. I still think he can be special he is doing a little bit of everything shooting the 3, mid range, and even a little bully ball down low. But please don’t hold his NBA growth to Keldon who should be getting major minutes next year as a starter.

I like every year we replacing bad players we replaced QUINDY, and Poindexter with Keldon and Luka and hopefully we can swing a trade to get us another first round pick and replace Forbes, and Beli next year. And then replace Rudy,and Carrol and keep replacing and getting better.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I agree the odds are Luka never be a starter, statistically a late teen pick is more often than not to


How do Spurs draft picks compare to the rest of the league... you know, statistically?

Wasn't Kawhi drafted in the mid-teens? Or does he not count since the Pacers drafted him for the Spurs?
Okay. Derrick White was a starter last year, and he was drafted 29.
Kyle Anderson was a starter, and he was drafted 30.
CoJo became a starter, and he was drafted 29.
Blair was a starter for two years, and he was drafted 37.
George Hill was a starter, and he was drafted 26
Tiago was a starter, and he was drafted 28.
Beno became a starter, and he was drafted 28.
Scola was... I don't want to talk about fucking Scola.
Manu 57, and Tony 28.

Do those guys not count because they weren't drafted in the mid- to late-teens?

I'm not sold on Sammich, and wasn't before the draft. But if there's a reason to think he may become a starter, it's the simple fact that the Spurs valued him that highly. Their draft picks totally defy the league statistics.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I was gonna Make this post, but I see his point. I mean do we trust the Spurs scouting as an Empire on the Decline vs an Empire at its apex and assent with the guys you posted?

Many here scoffed at them taking Luka instead of Keldon and some others and judging by how they've performed at the same level they seem to be right.

Luka is Drunkfords pick, his pet project and I believe Keldon and Weatherspoon are the others.


Well if the Spurs can no longer draft, it really is going to suck being a fan.

Murray,White, and Walker were the three previous picks. I think the Spurs were still doing pretty damn good with those two 29 picks (Murray and White), and I still think Lonnie will be as good or better than anyone drafted after him. So I'm going to let myself believe that they didn't fall off a cliff in the draft department in a single year.

I wouldn't have taken Sammich. But I'm not betting against him yet, unless it's with Monopoly money.

[jjktkk]

If DRunkford was on his game (and Pop) how could they not have traded Kawhi to stupid dumb Sacramento for the REAL LUKA when it was out there they were SHOPPING IT for an Established Player.

Wouldn't sending Mute Cancer to Cali but SUCKRAMENTO(the San Antonio of California some say...maybe its Bakersfield) instead of a ready made team in T Rapt.What was Sacramento offering for Leonard? I don't remember them being in the mix.

[Sugus]

How do Spurs draft picks compare to the rest of the league... you know, statistically?

Wasn't Kawhi drafted in the mid-teens? Or does he not count since the Pacers drafted him for the Spurs?
Okay. Derrick White was a starter last year, and he was drafted 29.
Kyle Anderson was a starter, and he was drafted 30.
CoJo became a starter, and he was drafted 29.
Blair was a starter for two years, and he was drafted 37.
George Hill was a starter, and he was drafted 26
Tiago was a starter, and he was drafted 28.
Beno became a starter, and he was drafted 28.
Scola was... I don't want to talk about fucking Scola.
Manu 57, and Tony 28.

Do those guys not count because they weren't drafted in the mid- to late-teens?

I'm not sold on Sammich, and wasn't before the draft. But if there's a reason to think he may become a starter, it's the simple fact that the Spurs valued him that highly. Their draft picks totally defy the league statistics.

Don't let Nono hear about this

[sasaint]

The Spurs are near the bottom of the league in transition defense and spot-up defense. Like 27 or worse in both, last I checked. That is what's losing most of these games for them.


Keldon plays defense. Beli plays no defense to speak of. It's probably better for Keldon if he stays in Austin a whole year. But he would be an upgrade on Beli right now. I don't know what was wrong with his 3P shooting to start the season, but he's starting to get to where I expected him to be on that, too. No reason why he wouldn't be a rotation player by next season.

One big reason: Pop.

[ace3g]

Spurs play again tonight at 8

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20191221/CCGAUS/

[RC_Drunkford]

Draft was on Jun 21st

Where kings picked

Mavin Bagley III and passed on Luka who was picked by the Hawks at 3 but the Pick was traded to Dallas


On June 19

Pop had his San Diego POW WOW (can he mend the relationship with Kawhi...answer no...)



But Everbody knew Kawhi wanted to get traded

Donks here were hoping against hope (in Poop we trust ect ect) or They need PICKS young prospects ect


However

on

June 15th


1007681051974512641


So the Spurs didn't trade that day or the next 7 days

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/920x920.jpg


They ended up Trading Kawhi THE NEXT MONTH
You would if your front office SCOUTED THE RIGHT LUKA

But HEY the spurs got Defrozen and set that Consecutive Playoff Record didn't they

:lmao

I assume Sacramento being in California had something to do with it. You know Pop wanted to send a message. He wanted to send him far away from home, somewhere to the Eastern Conference where they don't have to see him in the playoffs. It's an idiotic thing if you already know he will sign to one of the LA teams anyway when his contract expires, but you know Pop is an idiot

[BackHome]

I highly doubt the Kings were going to trade there number two draft pick for a guy who stated he WILL ONLY PLAY IN LA...Period End Of Story........:(

[Dejounte]

I highly doubt the Kings were going to trade there number two draft pick for a guy who stated he WILL ONLY PLAY IN LA...Period End Of Story........:(

But lets ignore the facts (because we are mad about our current situation), shall we....

[Sugus]

I highly doubt the Kings were going to trade there number two draft pick for a guy who stated he WILL ONLY PLAY IN LA...Period End Of Story........:(

Exactly. Kings are/were rebuilding and trading their hard-earned (or lost) lottery pick and presumably another young player for a one year rental of a superstar doesn't make sense for them. I don't buy that tweet that they "desperately need an established star" - they didn't even end up trading for one, and picked a promising player in a position of need for their core, but fucked up as they always do and missed the 20yo MVP candidate. People will twist any story to fit their narrative though...

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

so you're saying the spurs asked and were rebuked? Ok what eves.

I will agree with you on this one. I don’t think they even considered talking to Sacramento. Sacramento front office is typically stupid, so I think we could’ve made something work if the front office had shown any interest.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1208594793653256193

[sasaint]

Eubanks did WORK tonight

31pts 12reb 3 bs

12-17

Keldon was on defensivley only shot it 11 times had 11 carums but 6to

Luka only six shots but has 2 good steals

Weatherspoon was more of a Facilitator

Dedric Lawson had it going off the Bench

Kevion Pippin continues to impress but fitness do no so good


Bigs dominated a Length challenge Capital City Go Go'

Thanks for your posts about Austin, friend.

[objective]

He is more dynamic and Athletic than Brooks.

Tell me, do you put any merit on a guys pedigree

Keldon blue chipper, went to an historic pedigree college with the Blue Chipper Recruit one and done coach, first round pick, He went ONE and Done 1st round Pick
vs
a lunch pale guy who played 3 years on Oregon and didn't start in college till his sophomore year.
Picked in the second round

Which translate to the difference in Speed and attitude of the two

Or are you just lowering expectations.

one guy just turned 20
other guy is 24 in January

I'm not saying his game is 100% like Brooks

I'm saying that a 6-6 burly guy with strength and hustle who is aggressive can be a decent player like Brooks.

Hell I'd love for Johnson to play right now over Marco and Forbes, easy.

Whether he'll be more than a Brooks-type player is a question.

[Harry Callahan]

Keldon has some fire in the belly. I want to see the young guys play in SA once the parent club figures out the season is lost.

[CGD]

Man the Spurs players look like giants compared to the DC players.

[duncan2150]

Personnes hollinger " Two first-rounders who played here in Vegas that I’d be pretty worried about: Luka Samanic and Zhaire Smith. Smith was a 2018 first-round pick of the Sixers who missed nearly all of last season due to a severe food allergy reaction. He’s only 20, but has struggled to make an impact even in G League games due to his limited skill level. A phenomenal leaper who does his best work in transition, the 6-4 Smith’s skill level hasn’t nearly caught up with his leaping ability – right now he’s basically a 4 in a 2’s body. The surprising part is that he hasn’t been able to bring his athleticism to bear, even in places you’d expect to see it – he rarely draws fouls, for instance, and his rates of blocks, steals and rebounds in the G League have been unremarkable." 4 hours ago – via John Hollinger @ The Athletic

If someone can share the article. Thanks

[Truth4sale$]

Too critical. Why even mention Luca's name. Not fair. He is a 2 year project. He is learning a whole new system. Zaire is coming off a foot injury, and unfair expectations because he was picked outside the lottery

[Kurgan]

Personnes hollinger " Two first-rounders who played here in Vegas that I’d be pretty worried about: Luka Samanic and Zhaire Smith. Smith was a 2018 first-round pick of the Sixers who missed nearly all of last season due to a severe food allergy reaction. He’s only 20, but has struggled to make an impact even in G League games due to his limited skill level. A phenomenal leaper who does his best work in transition, the 6-4 Smith’s skill level hasn’t nearly caught up with his leaping ability – right now he’s basically a 4 in a 2’s body. The surprising part is that he hasn’t been able to bring his athleticism to bear, even in places you’d expect to see it – he rarely draws fouls, for instance, and his rates of blocks, steals and rebounds in the G League have been unremarkable." 4 hours ago – via John Hollinger @ The Athletic

If someone can share the article. Thanks

Here's the part about Luka Samanic:

"As for Samanic, the Spurs’ 2019 first-rounder has played heavy minutes for Austin but seems a long way away from being a good G League player, much less helping the varsity. Samanic is 19 and physically immature, so to an extent, these were known bugs when San Antonio selected him with the 19th pick. But Samanic has a mammoth turnover rate for a stretch big (20.6 percent) with few assists to compensate – he committed a dozen miscues in two games this weekend, with just one dime. He hasn’t been able to nail down the “stretch” part of his job description either (30.7 percent on 3s).
The good news for San Antonio is that 29th pick Keldon Johnson seems further along – the high-motor swingman is a straight-line driver with a big motor who had a 25-point outing against Sioux Falls on Thursday. He still needs to tighten up his outside shooting (26.5 percent on 3s) and find teammates more often rather than just driving to score, but the 20-year-old seems on a trajectory toward becoming a helpful player in the mid-term future"


This part was also interesting:

"The upshot is that 2020 first-round picks, especially late ones, are likely to be a currency that teams willingly surrender if the right trade is there. One name I doubt you’ll hear on the trade market: Davis Bertans. Some have speculated that Washington’s deep-bombing stretch forward could be on the market ahead of his unrestricted free agency, but all signals indicate the Wizards intend to re-sign the Latvian forward – who, at 27, is still young enough to be part of Washington’s next iteration. A further smoke signal – Washington’s recent 2-way signing of Anzejs Pasecniks. A 7-1 center who was a former first-round pick of the Sixers, Pasecniks had shown just modest production in the G League, but is a fellow Latvian who shares an agent with Bertans."

[John B]

Personnes hollinger " Two first-rounders who played here in Vegas that I’d be pretty worried about: Luka Samanic and Zhaire Smith. Smith was a 2018 first-round pick of the Sixers who missed nearly all of last season due to a severe food allergy reaction. He’s only 20, but has struggled to make an impact even in G League games due to his limited skill level. A phenomenal leaper who does his best work in transition, the 6-4 Smith’s skill level hasn’t nearly caught up with his leaping ability – right now he’s basically a 4 in a 2’s body. The surprising part is that he hasn’t been able to bring his athleticism to bear, even in places you’d expect to see it – he rarely draws fouls, for instance, and his rates of blocks, steals and rebounds in the G League have been unremarkable." 4 hours ago – via John Hollinger @ The Athletic

If someone can share the article. Thanks
Dang I liked this kid as a project. But if Lonnie is not even sniffing the floor with all his talents...

[get_mills_out]

"As for Samanic, the Spurs’ 2019 first-rounder has played heavy minutes for Austin but seems a long way away from being a good G League player, much less helping the varsity. Samanic is 19 and physically immature, so to an extent, these were known bugs when San Antonio selected him with the 19th pick. But Samanic has a mammoth turnover rate for a stretch big (20.6 percent) with few assists to compensate – he committed a dozen miscues in two games this weekend, with just one dime. He hasn’t been able to nail down the “stretch” part of his job description either (30.7 percent on 3s).The good news for San Antonio is that 29th pick Keldon Johnson seems further along – the high-motor swingman is a straight-line driver with a big motor who had a 25-point outing against Sioux Falls on Thursday. He still needs to tighten up his outside shooting (26.5 percent on 23s) and find teammates more often rather than just driving to score, but the 20-year-old seems on a trajectory toward becoming a helpful player in the mid-term future."

-Hollinger

[duncan2150]

Thanks

That's not too concerning as we know that sa manic is a project and He has the tools to succeed.

But I have the same concern for samanic to's He needs to really improve his ball handling skills.

[Dejounte]

Didnt see anything about why Luka isnt playing tonight? Hes on the bench. Injured?

[itzsoweezee]

"As for Samanic, the Spurs’ 2019 first-rounder has played heavy minutes for Austin but seems a long way away from being a good G League player, much less helping the varsity. Samanic is 19 and physically immature, so to an extent, these were known bugs when San Antonio selected him with the 19th pick. But Samanic has a mammoth turnover rate for a stretch big (20.6 percent) with few assists to compensate – he committed a dozen miscues in two games this weekend, with just one dime. He hasn’t been able to nail down the “stretch” part of his job description either (30.7 percent on 3s).The good news for San Antonio is that 29th pick Keldon Johnson seems further along – the high-motor swingman is a straight-line driver with a big motor who had a 25-point outing against Sioux Falls on Thursday. He still needs to tighten up his outside shooting (26.5 percent on 23s) and find teammates more often rather than just driving to score, but the 20-year-old seems on a trajectory toward becoming a helpful player in the mid-term future."

-Hollinger

Lol. This front office can't do anything right.

[Dejounte]

Det Soft Euro thing could be as bad as Splitter IMHO. I HOPE he comes out of this thing NEXT season, where at this rate he'll spend another year in Austin.

Hollinger isn't wrong.

I mean this is his first game he hasnt played lmao. But i do remember there was one game where he was in pain in one of his legs. Not sure how long ago that was

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/) 0
SF
28
4-8
2-3
2-2
-25
1
5
6
1
0
1
1
2
0
15


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/) 5
PF
28
5-10
1-4
1-1
-19
3
3
6
2
3
2
1
0
0
13


Chimezie
Metu
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629002/) 7
C
29
8-18
0-3
1-2
-23
3
6
9
1
0
1
3
1
1
18


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/) 15
SG
25
2-10
0-2
0-0
-21
1
4
5
8
3
1
2
0
0
4


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/) 25
PG
23
5-6
0-0
1-2
-16
0
0
0
4
4
0
2
0
0
12


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/) 2

15
1-3
1-3
1-1
-1
0
1
1
1
0
1
2
0
0
4


Matt
Farrell
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629393/) 4

18
2-4
0-2
0-0
-6
0
1
1
3
0
1
0
0
0
4


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14

11
3-5
0-0
1-2
1
0
2
2
1
0
2
0
0
0
7


Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/) 34

19
4-7
1-4
0-0
-6
0
1
1
1
2
0
0
0
0
9


Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/) 24

19
2-7
0-3
0-0
0
2
1
3
0
1
0
0
0
0
4


Tevin
King
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629886/) 11

6
0-4
0-2
0-0
-3
0
0
0
2
1
1
1
0
0
0


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/) 30

6
2-3
0-0
1-4
-3
2
1
3
0
0
1
0
0
1
5


Kavion
Pippen
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629800/) 33

6
3-4
0-1
1-1
-3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
7


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/) 19



Total
-
-
41-89
5-27
9-15
-
12
25
37
24
14
11
12
4
2
102

[DPG21920]

I get what Hollinger is saying, but the point of the GLeague is to push players. Luka isn’t going to be playmaking a ton in the NBA; that won’t be his main role. The fact Luka is taking risks and trying advanced passes is fine with me even with the TO’s. Push him to develop these other really valuable skills and learn there where results dont matter as much.

[GB20]

I get what Hollinger is saying, but the point of the GLeague is to push players. Luka isn’t going to be playmaking a ton in the NBA; that won’t be his main role. The fact Luka is taking risks and trying advanced passes is fine with me even with the TO’s. Push him to develop these other really valuable skills and learn there where results dont matter as much.

Exactly!! That's how Manu got better with his crazy passes.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1211837359303667714

[ace3g]

Spurs made a trade!!!

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1212064092778831872

[JeffDuncan]

Spurs made a trade!!!

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1212064092778831872


Rodriguez is listed as 5' 11". How could the Spurs resist?

[ZeusWillJudge]

I've seen this kid play several times. Hell of a motor. I don't think he's really even 5'11". But if you're ever in a pickup game at the gym, you want him on your team. He'll be good to keep things flowing for some of the Spurs' real projects.


Spurs made a trade!!!

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1212064092778831872

[GAustex]

Spurs made a trade!!!

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1212064092778831872
We be stacked
LOB!!!

[Duncan87]

Sucks will never make to NBA. Gleague Gm more active than NBA gm. Lol

[Russ]

https://youtu.be/rEeB5KUITxY

G League defense is pretty darn bad (but Weatherspoon looks good nonetheless).

[ace3g]

Spurs play tonight at 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200103/GBOAUS/

[Russ]

Spurs play tonight at 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200103/GBOAUS/

The game is supposed to be on FSSW live (although they describe it as a hockey game).

[Leetonidas]

There's no way spurs wouldn't be better with KJ and Luka taking the place of Forbes and Gay in the rotation. Sucks Po will never play rookies. Meanwhile Spoelstra has an undrafted rook and a mid first round took playing big roles in a good team. Pop is such an idiot

[emanueldavidginobili]

There's no way spurs wouldn't be better with KJ and Luka taking the place of Forbes and Gay in the rotation. Sucks Po will never play rookies. Meanwhile Spoelstra has an undrafted rook and a mid first round took playing big roles in a good team. Pop is such an idiot
The Spurs would not be better with Luka instead of Gay, you’re smoking some good stuff tbh.

[spurraider21]

luka isn't close tbh...

[Leetonidas]

The Spurs would not be better with Luka instead of Gay, you’re smoking some good stuff tbh.

Ok maybe not. But Gay has been pretty terrible. But I guarantee Spurs would be better with KJ in place of Brent Forms

[spurraider21]

This, RC's Last Stand
dont worry in 4-5 years he might become dario saric

[Russ]

Samanic looks really rough.

[Russ]

Lawson looks like a role player at the very most.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Weatherspoon is getting a rhythm

Weatherspoon > Bryn "the Leader" Forbes.


I've been saying since preseason that I thought Spoon could replace Forbes. He's got a solid shooting stroke. Forbes' is exceptional, but Spoon is solid and has a killer instinct that Forbes always lacked. But Quinn's defense is already better than Forbes, and would only get better with reps in SA. Since Pop is giving Forbes minutes over Lonnie, I know there's no chance that he'd give minutes to Spoon, but maybe the next coach will.

Meanwhile, Walt Lemon had 28 points and 7 AST tonight for Fort Wayne. I know it's G-League, but I'm sticking with what I've said for a long time now. The SA Spurs would get better if they brought him in as a backup PG. Put him, Lonnie, and Poeltl on the floor together, and our bench would be nasty. Nasty, I tell ya.

All for the price of a couple of min contracts.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Lawson looks like a role player at the very most.


Let me see if I can recall the Dedric Lawson Story. I'm sure someone will correct me if a few details aren't right:

When he was a junior in high school, he committed to go play for Memphis in college (when he graduated). That summer, the Memphis coach hired Dedric's dad as an assistant. Dedric somehow got out of his senior year of high school, and went to play for Memphis. Dedric played pretty well, especially for a high school senior, but suffered an injury. But he did that semi-declare thing where he went to the combine with the option of bailing and going back to college. He looked like absolute dog shit at the combine, and Draft XPress called him "the worst athlete at the combine".

He went back to Memphis for a year, but then left to play for... anyone?...anyone?...Bueller? He went to play at Kansas for Bill Self. Some of you may have heard of him.

I always pull for a guy to get his shit together and make it at the next level. But Dedric Lawson has a bunch of baggage, and a lot of reasons to have low expectations. (There's a lot more that I'm leaving out.) Maybe if Pop retires and Self takes over, he can become the new Bryn Forbes.

[ZeusWillJudge]

By far the most NBA ready better than trash on Spurs, (Bryn, Belli and I guess Carroll??? why else is he on the pine) on the Austin Spurs are Keldon and Weatherspoon.


Keldon and Quinn both have NBA bodies. They're strong, and can withstand contact without turning into human pinwheels. That's one of Bryn's big problems - if he gets any kind of serious ball pressure, he's done. It's a quality that doesn't get talked about much, but I'm convinced that it's one of the things that keeps a lot of G-League players from being able to make it at the NBA level. They run into NBA defenders and start looking like deer in the headlights, and the never recover.

I haven't been able to watch them live this year, but I've watched quite a bit of film. If anything, they look stronger than they did in the summer.

[Dejounte]

Forbes should be the 12th man. Can't wait to see Quinndary, Lonnie, and Keldon take his place.

Go for the money, Bryn. Leave SA.

[Light]

Weatherspoon!! :wow

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1213301431081549824?s=19

Keldon is a fucking steal for this dog mentality alone. I get hyped up whenever I watch this dude play and I'm not even his teammate. The fire this kid will bring to this lifeless Spur team will be 99999% valuable.

[Degoat]

I’ve been real impressed by Keldon so far this season, still puzzled with Luka. He has skill but I don’t think he will ever translate to the nba, I hope I’m wrong tho

[JeffDuncan]

Forbes should be the 12th man. ...

If you mean in Austin I agree.

[Light]

Lonnie and Keldon will be fun to watch on the court together. Both players bringing high energy

[emanueldavidginobili]

1213304872923205632

I’m loving this kid so far. God damn he has a motor on him.

[BackHome]

Yeah Keldon was a steal I still have no idea why anyone thought he was not the steal of the draft to be honest. As far as Luka he was drafted on potential so he is easily 2 or 3 years away add that he is a big which usually takes a little longer to develop so Keldon will/should be getting minutes with the main club and Luka will be the focus in G League next season.

[Degoat]

I maybe overrating him lol but I see some Andre Iguodala in Keldons game, now he may not reach that level but he competes really hard, and he’s pretty solid offensively overall

[ZeusWillJudge]

Couldn't disagree with you more on this observation.

1.It doens't happen to him now

2.Its bases on some future speculation of him getting "on ball pressure" in the NBA?

a.is this on a one on one situation?
b.where he is getting double and tripled team by some theoretical Future NBA team?
i.it that were the case then he would be a player worthy of a double and triple team making your point Moot


What the fuck are you even talking about?

I was talking about Bryn. When he puts the ball on the floor, it's a fucking disaster if anyone moves to closely guard him. That's what ball pressure means. And if they bump him a bit, he can't recover. It doesn't happen to him very much now, because they don't let him handle the ball much anymore.
Sean even commented on it during the last game, when Bryn brought the ball up the floor one time. It's a disaster more often than not.

And what the fuck are you talking about double and triple teams? Did I say anything about double and triple teams? It doesn't take any double or triple teams to stop Bryn. Hell, just one guy going after him and he'll give up his dribble and then start looking for someplace to dump the ball. Did you think I was talking about someone else? Do you think that "ball pressure" automatically means a double or triple team? I don't even know where to go with your line of argument.

[John B]

https://youtu.be/QIHldl20dGY
Keldon and Weatherspoon easily better than Marco and Forbes now. QW even helps White move up to SG, better defender, rebounder and motor

[objective]

What does Samanic do that's good enough to eventually be a regular, heavy rotation player?

He's not a shooting specialist, not even close to Bertans. Never has been.

He's not a volume scorer. And even those at his size aren't typically very successful unless they can really fill it up. Lyles has put up decent stats when given enough minutes and touches but nobody was looking to give him big minutes, not even the desperate, spurned Spurs. Samanic isn't Carmelo, and I doubt he's Rudy Gay. Looks leagues below Michael Porter Jr, and he should considering how highly regarded Porter was out of high school.

Decent enough passer, but he's galaxies away from being Luka Doncic. Samanic is probably never going to warrant so much time with the ball to be a primary or secondary playmaker. Don't even expect him to be a tertiary playmaker. Turns the ball over so much I don't know if he'd be helping the team trying to make plays.

He's good against lower level competition driving to the rim with his first step, strides, behind the back dribbles and spins. Is that going to get him the ball at a high enough usage and generate points at high enough efficiency for those moves to really matter, if they even translate against NBA size and speed?

Decent feet on defense when he's not tired or lazy but zero wingspan limits his ability to dominate defensively. He may not end up as a minus defender but will he be a plus guy? Or even good enough like an Aminu at his size?

The hope is that he gets stronger and heavier and more gas in the tank. Let's say that happens: he gets a lot stronger and better conditioned. Is that so good that he'd be more than a change of pace hustle player?

[duncan2150]

What does Samanic do that's good enough to eventually be a regular, heavy rotation player?

He's not a shooting specialist, not even close to Bertans. Never has been.

He's not a volume scorer. And even those at his size aren't typically very successful unless they can really fill it up. Lyles has put up decent stats when given enough minutes and touches but nobody was looking to give him big minutes, not even the desperate, spurned Spurs. Samanic isn't Carmelo, and I doubt he's Rudy Gay. Looks leagues below Michael Porter Jr, and he should considering how highly regarded Porter was out of high school.

Decent enough passer, but he's galaxies away from being Luka Doncic. Samanic is probably never going to warrant so much time with the ball to be a primary or secondary playmaker. Don't even expect him to be a tertiary playmaker. Turns the ball over so much I don't know if he'd be helping the team trying to make plays.

He's good against lower level competition driving to the rim with his first step, strides, behind the back dribbles and spins. Is that going to get him the ball at a high enough usage and generate points at high enough efficiency for those moves to really matter, if they even translate against NBA size and speed?

Decent feet on defense when he's not tired or lazy but zero wingspan limits his ability to dominate defensively. He may not end up as a minus defender but will he be a plus guy? Or even good enough like an Aminu at his size?

The hope is that he gets stronger and heavier and more gas in the tank. Let's say that happens: he gets a lot stronger and better conditioned. Is that so good that he'd be more than a change of pace hustle player?

Totally agree with that

Imo samanic needs to develop a better focus, effort to the game...

He also needs to have a better BB IQ, i Hope he will Be good but he has a looong way to go

Scouts in europe were right about him, the tools are there but he is far from effective now.

[RC_Drunkford]

geat to see how well Keldon and Weatherspoon have been playing. Samanic will need another G-League year, but he's still very young so there is time for him to develop into an NBA player. Keldon won't get any minutes next season, while Bryn Forbes continues to start. Y'all know how Pop does. I really hope he retires

[John B]

Totally agree with that

Imo samanic needs to develop a better focus, effort to the game...

He also needs to have a better BB IQ, i Hope he will Be good but he has a looong way to go

Scouts in europe were right about him, the tools are there but he is far from effective now.
On the contrary, I see Samanic as a very good prospect. He is a modern PF, 6’11” with nimble feet, can catch and shoot, dribbles and pass in transition, can switch on pick and rolls and closeout on perimeters. Granted he doesn’t show as well than the two rookies, but bigs normally matures late. He will fare nicely with Poeltl, who will become a better postup player, he is already showing some postups and attacking the rim. It takes time and Samanic 20 yrl old body will fill up nicely, a modern PF with guard skills. I really like all 3 Spurs’ picks nd youth movement if only Pop would play them :lol

[Truth4sale$]

Samanic has all the tools on offense but his defense is way below even Gleague level. I dont think it is just gaining weight, it is a lack of awareness or being timid. His offense will need to jump another level to compensate for such weak defense. He has to develop "nastiness"

[SAGirl]

Here's the part about Luka Samanic:

"As for Samanic, the Spurs’ 2019 first-rounder has played heavy minutes for Austin but seems a long way away from being a good G League player, much less helping the varsity. Samanic is 19 and physically immature, so to an extent, these were known bugs when San Antonio selected him with the 19th pick. But Samanic has a mammoth turnover rate for a stretch big (20.6 percent) with few assists to compensate – he committed a dozen miscues in two games this weekend, with just one dime. He hasn’t been able to nail down the “stretch” part of his job description either (30.7 percent on 3s).
The good news for San Antonio is that 29th pick Keldon Johnson seems further along – the high-motor swingman is a straight-line driver with a big motor who had a 25-point outing against Sioux Falls on Thursday. He still needs to tighten up his outside shooting (26.5 percent on 3s) and find teammates more often rather than just driving to score, but the 20-year-old seems on a trajectory toward becoming a helpful player in the mid-term future"


This part was also interesting:

"The upshot is that 2020 first-round picks, especially late ones, are likely to be a currency that teams willingly surrender if the right trade is there. One name I doubt you’ll hear on the trade market: Davis Bertans. Some have speculated that Washington’s deep-bombing stretch forward could be on the market ahead of his unrestricted free agency, but all signals indicate the Wizards intend to re-sign the Latvian forward – who, at 27, is still young enough to be part of Washington’s next iteration. A further smoke signal – Washington’s recent 2-way signing of Anzejs Pasecniks. A 7-1 center who was a former first-round pick of the Sixers, Pasecniks had shown just modest production in the G League, but is a fellow Latvian who shares an agent with Bertans."
Thanks for sharing. I have a hard time envisioning Pop playing Luca when he was so strict with Davis who is a real sniper.

[Dejounte]

Thanks for sharing. I have a hard time envisioning Pop playing Luca when he was so strict with Davis who is a real sniper.

Because Luka wont just be a sniper.

[JuneJive]

I see no issues with the way Samanic is developing.

As it looks, he's right on track.

[B1gduff]

For those that have watched Keldon play, how is he and what type of upside does he have?

I've seen a few video's of him and he seems a bit Klay Thompson like. Not saying he will be a Klay Thompson, but he seems to have a pretty quicker trigger and can shoot over people while not havign to take many dribbles. He is also formating is game to that off Paul pierce.

On the defense end, what kind of upside does he have? i've talked with a few people that have seen him and they've told me he has the right size to be a SF, he's 6'6 which is a bit smaller for a sf, but he has a Standing reach of 8'8 which is bigger and higher than a guy like Jimmy Buckets, and has a bigger wingspan at 6'10. With these measurement people have said he looks more like 6'7/6'8 but with a smaller neck.

But about his feets or ability to move laterally. I think that was the biggest knock on him, and made him fall to us.

[Dejounte]

Call me crazy but I don't think we will be using our draft picks next season. I think theyll either trade it for a future pick or trade it (along with other player/s) for a vet. I think the Spurs will be content with the batch of rooks we have now and will continue investing in their growth. No reason to keep adding youth to this roster when we are plenty young already. I like our core of DJ, White, Lonnie, Poetl, Samanic, Quinn. Time to go out there and get decent vets or a proven all star and let one of these young guns grow into one (all star).

[B1gduff]

yeah he look like a beast on the video that i've see and the one's you've posted. he's playing like a top 10 (maybe top 5) pick. His feet work looks fine, and is pretty quick, yeah that one handed catch was crazy...he's gotten me excited. lol

Do you think with his size, he the ideal Sf?

[Smithie]

looks more like 6'7/6'8 but with a smaller neck.
The Daryl Morey special.

[RC_Drunkford]

The guy at the end he stops at the is Kobi Simmons, Wildcat, Undrafted 22, listed at 6'4" wo shoe and 6'5" with, top % athletics wise at that years Combine and he TOWERS over him, height, Athletically, Bulk a man next to a boy. Everybody talking about how Luka turns 20 in a few days, Keldon turned 20 a couple of months ago. So If you're talking about "Growth" with Luka same rules apply to Keldon. I can only say I have seen every game and I haven't seen him being even closed to anything "undersized" but this being Spurms Talk and all the Bolded Donks have been writing 1000's of posts based on Nothing but Box score results will argue something different and dont believe your eyes.

That's what I found intriguing about Keldon. He's very young and has a pretty complete game, which means if he keeps working on it he could become a go-to guy/all-star. He basically has to work on his offensive arsenal and has plenty of time to add all kind of moves

[RC_Drunkford]

What makes me sick is all the LEADER talk from poop,

He says Kawhi isn't a Leader that Patty is was and will be

he finds a Guy to replace him in Byrn and put a fucking video out to the NBA that it titles "Byrn forbes Chippy Leadership" as the man himself BEAMS in delight and satisfaction in his NEW LEADERS SPURS PRODUCED

POOPOGANDA VIDEO

but here is a guy who has real captain of the team flollow me to hell Lawrence taylor LEADERSHIP dripping out of his every poor at every minute. However keldon doesn't even get to lead the Austin Club because Luka has to get his touches early in some kind of "developmental" edict from the home office(my opinion). There are games where for the first quarter of play of the starting 5 are looking off an open hustling Keldon to get that Nerd the ball.

He started the season with #3 and changed it to #0 for a fucking reason

He may not have Kawhi Leonard "Holly shit" Wow factor but Kawhi doesn't have that Manu Ginobili Tim Duncan Magnetism which was what relay drove the Spurs "culture" for almost 20 years.

Keldon has that dog in him, something the Spurs team doesn't have. Not one guy there has it, so character wise he will fit in well. DJ, Keldon, Lonnie and White fit very well together basketball and character wise.
Is Austin putting Keldon in the pick and roll a lot? From my understanding they were planning on giving him a lot of usage, so he can develop his playmaking and scoring moves coming off the pick and roll.

[Dejounte]

Those are bad photos, Drew. Keldon isnt standing straight or even next to anyone. Not trolling, just letting you know man.

[buujness]

Keldon and Quinndary are, I think, clearly better than Marco and Bryn at this point. They both can penetrate off of ball movement, shoot (though Keldon started the season on a cold streak) and play good defense. Really looking forward to them joining Lonnie, Derrick and Dejounte in the near future.

I'm still optimistic about Luka Samanic; he's clearly a long-term project: tons of tools with no real knowledge of how to use them. Given the Spurs track record of developing players, I think that the team has a good chance to turn him into a productive player. It's going to take longer than we'd like, but that's OK, imo.

[Dejounte]

Yep, your are trolling. 2018 BOLDED

LOL

Standards KEPT lol

Worst Indicator on this Board....

Being BOLDED

What expect from the sniffer standards

Would you give the photos a D+




LOL

This guy writing about EYE TEST and CLUTCH GENES, and writes this so all you BOLDED types can follow lock step. Guys BOUNCING off him in all 3 drives to the basket and your Proxy in cheif says "Looked small".
In COMPARISON to the Great Freak

YEP

LOL

Calm down, Francis.

Youre acting like I chose to be bolded. I dont even know how that whole thing works (how to be bolded). It was automatic, you fool. You know Ive been on your side this entire time, right? I simply was just letting you know those photos were bad to use to tell height.

[Dejounte]

You realize I've watched the gleague as much as you, right? What the hell are you rambling about? You got some psycho tendencies...

[Dejounte]

Yep, your are trolling. 2018 BOLDED

LOL

Standards KEPT lol

Worst Indicator on this Board....

Being BOLDED

What expect from the sniffer standards

Would you give the photos a D+




LOL

This guy writing about EYE TEST and CLUTCH GENES, and writes this so all you BOLDED types can follow lock step. Guys BOUNCING off him in all 3 drives to the basket and your Proxy in cheif says "Looked small".
In COMPARISON to the Great Freak

YEP

LOL

I didnt write that post you fucking moron. Go check back to who wrote it. It wasnt me.

Edit: i see. You were referring to timvp. Regardless, you are psycho man

[B1gduff]

Looking at a few recaps of the game last night against the bucks, Noticed how similar in height he is to Middleton. Khris is a real 6'8 and Keldon was matching him height by height. Guys we got ourselves a sf! not it time for him to get some mins,

[John B]

I like Keldon, just can’t help seeing he got outrebounded twice by 6’3” George Hill and Hill was behind him. That’s not happening with Murray, White and Walker. Timing?

[GAustex]

Drew working hard

[Dejounte]

Drew working hard

Drew provides good content. Sometimes he lets his hate get over his head though. He would be on another level as a poster if he didnt let other people's opinions bother him. Granted, there are a fuck ton of idiots on this site so its not surprising Drew is becoming unhinged / crazy.

[BackHome]

I also think Keldon was a little tired as he played heavy minutes in OT with the GLeague the night before.

[RC_Drunkford]

damn Samanic looks like garbage, no lie :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Leading the team in points,

this is one of his best games Motor wise on both sides of the boards

is he? I tuned in at the end of the 3rd and ever since he came in in the 4th he's only done dumb shit.

Weatherspoon looks great

[RC_Drunkford]

Samanic needs to learn how to finish with his left hand. There's no chance for him to drive left and then finish with his right in the NBA. He will get blocked 9 times out of 10

[RC_Drunkford]

but the FEAR of bodying up a five foot ten guy

when your seven foot

does nothing for you

Yeah he has a bunch of issues. Turnovers and he overcommits on defense way too often. Almost gave up the 3 at the end of the game with his dumb defense

[Dejounte]

Luka plays dumb like Lonnie-dumb or Dejounte-dumb during their first years. Once he puts it together, there's not many players like him in the league. How many players can run with the ball as fast as he just did in tonight's game and do a reverse slam while being as tall as he is?

[Dejounte]

Bruh Angel Rodriguez looks barely 6'. He had a heck of a first game with the Austin Spurs

[RC_Drunkford]

Keldon is clutch as fuck. Always looking to get to the rim and do a strong big body finish. I like that a lot. Never loses his composure and his drives almost always result into a lay up. Getting high percentage shots in crunch time is exactly what you want

[pad300]

BUT SOMEBODY must have CALLED and made sure


LUKA got

"PLAYER OF THE GAME"

https://www.kens5.com/img/resize/content.kens5.com/photo/2014/06/20/Buford-mug_7024666_ver1.0.jpg?mode=pad&bgcolor=000000&scale=both&width=360&height=203

Ok, let me get this straight. Your conspiracy theory is that RC is rigging the player of the game awards for the Austin Spurs to give them to Sammanich? Lay off the meth man... Lay off the meth. At least make 'em funny...

[Dancelot]

Just got home from the game. Knee injury looked bad for metu but he came back in the second half and was fine. Offensive player ran in to his knee and he was down for a bit. The refs were atrocious. Keldon is the real deal and I think he will end up being the best part of the nephew trade, He pretty much took over in overtime. Luka might be a good player for us in a year or two, he’s a great shooter imo.

[BackHome]

Damn even in G League people doing the Tony Vs Manu bullshit why can’t ya just appreciate and root for both players?

[r0drig0lac]

https://youtu.be/WOgetk3pQuI Harden lite

[slick'81]

never seems like hes getting off the floor when he scores

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/WOgetk3pQuI Harden lite

I called it. This was my comparison from since we drafted him. A taller, tougher Harden.

[GAustex]

Dude can’t shoot no where close to Harden

[Dejounte]

Dude can’t shoot no where close to Harden

Obviously not yet. But his driving ability is an exact copy of Harden.

[GAustex]

Obviously not yet. But his driving ability is an exact copy of Harden.
Ok I buy that

[exstatic]

Dude can’t shoot no where close to Harden

Haden has a career 37% rate. Not exactly a sharpshooter in today’s NBA. Keldon matching that isn’t an impossible task.

[Sugus]

Haden has a career 37% rate. Not exactly a sharpshooter in today’s NBA. Keldon matching that isn’t an impossible task.

It's a matter of volume and not accuracy when talking about Harden, though. Plenty of NBA players can shoot 37% from deep - but how many can average 35ppg at the same time? I wouldn't want Keldon to develop a Harden-like game, though, it's just cancerous basketball. He can score all he wants but a team with him as the main star is never winning a ring - once you get to the deeper stages of the playoffs, with a scheme as obvious as the Rockets', top defenses will easily allow him his points and block out his teammates, who are never allowed to catch a good rhythm.

I would much rather have Keldon develop a nice jumper but learn to play within a team offense, and have his finishing ability as a tool not coupled with excessive ballhandling like Harden's. A combination of White, Lonnie, and Keldon could do some serious two-way damage; all three can shoot, defend, finish around the rim, and pass (I haven't seen enough passing from Keldon to see how good he is at that, though). Hope for the future.

[GAustex]

Haden has a career 37% rate. Not exactly a sharpshooter in today’s NBA. Keldon matching that isn’t an impossible task.
You are correct
I would bet if Harden did not take so many contested shots his percentage would be much higher.
Hopefully Keldon can shoot a high percentage in time.

[wildbill2u]

Damn even in G League people doing the Tony Vs Manu bullshit why can’t ya just appreciate and root for both players?

God bless you for saying that. But don't expect any reform in the fanboys.

[BillMc]

God bless you for saying that. But don't expect any reform in the fanboys.

This.

[vander]

https://youtu.be/WOgetk3pQuI

He's just BARELY getting all those layups off against D-league defenders, just about every shot in that video gets blocked in the NBA

[exstatic]

He's just BARELY getting all those layups off against D-league defenders, just about every shot in that video gets blocked in the NBA
In the beginning, sure. KJ is a big body, though, and will learn to throw that body into the shot blocker to keep him away from the ball.

[Russ]

Austin vs. OKC starting now on FSSW.

[Russ]

Hoping Keldon Johnson is in Pop's rotation by February or March.

(Probably unrealistic.)

[GAustex]

Keldon with the brick

[Russ]

Keldon with the brick

A rarity.

KJ is 6-9 for 13 points at the half.

[XDT76]

Hoping Keldon Johnson is in Pop's rotation by February or March.

(Probably unrealistic.)

He needs to show more 3pt consistency else Pop will just continue with Forbes

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1214736844346286080

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1214736844346286080

Fuck... Didn't he also have a foot injury that prevented him from playing in the SL?

[XDT76]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1214736844346286080

Damn, is the Spurs cursed, everytime a player seems to start developing to be a NBA player they got injured. (Murray, White, Lonnie and now Metu)

[GAustex]

Metu was leading the fast break and took an awkward step at the move to the rim

[sasaint]

Metu was leading the fast break and took an awkward step at the move to the rim

Basically a stupid injury. Metu leading the fast break?

[GAustex]

Metu was walking ok on the hand shake after the game

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/) 0
SF
26
9-16
1-2
2-3
-2
2
2
4
1
1
1
2
0
0
22


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/) 19
PF
23
5-9
2-3
1-1
-4
1
2
3
0
1
2
1
0
1
14


Chimezie
Metu
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629002/) 7
C
24
7-10
2-2
0-0
-2
0
5
5
4
1
4
2
0
1
16


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/) 15
SG
24
1-7
1-5
0-0
-10
1
3
4
5
2
0
2
0
1
3


Angel
Rodriguez
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629285/) 13
PG
25
3-8
1-2
1-1
-6
2
1
3
4
2
1
2
0
0
9


Matt
Farrell
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629393/) 4

22
3-6
0-1
1-1
15
1
5
6
6
2
2
2
0
0
7


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14

23
9-14
0-1
3-3
11
1
4
5
2
1
0
1
1
0
21


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/) 5

24
5-9
3-6
0-0
13
1
6
7
3
1
0
1
0
1
13


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/) 2

23
2-5
1-3
1-2
19
0
4
4
6
2
1
4
0
0
6


Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/) 24

21
2-5
2-5
0-0
11
0
3
3
3
2
0
1
0
0
6


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/) 30



Kavion
Pippen
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629800/) 33



Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/) 25



Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/) 34
DNP - Inactive


Tevin
King
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629886/) 11
DNP - Inactive


Total
-
-
46-89
13-30
9-11
-
9
35
44
34
15
11
18
1
4
117

[GAustex]

Basically a stupid injury. Metu leading the fast break?
It was a Tragic Johnson thing. Big dude dribbling down the middle with dudes all around. As he gathered he just crumpled down.
I was worried he did a DJM

[sasaint]

It was a Tragic Johnson thing. Big dude dribbling down the middle with dudes all around. As he gathered he just crumpled down.
I was worried he did a DJM

That's a shame. They guy has put on some muscle and has shown some signs of actually being able to play in the big league.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEFyNduYm0

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1214736844346286080


Damn I hate hearing that. He's been showing some real improvement, and I always root for the G-League guys. I think someone mentioned last game that he tweaked a knee, but came back. I hope it's something that will be better after a week or two off. I sure don't like hearing that he had trouble getting off the court. With a big guy you always think metatarsal.

[sasaint]

Thanks friend. I really appreciate the effort you put into keeping the forum apprised of what's happening with the Junior Varsity. :tu

[ZeusWillJudge]

I'm trying to watch last nights replay on ESPN+ and have experienced nothing but technical farts on the replay that were recorded(sorry technical difficulties..ect) and the damed thing crashes on replay in ANY BROWSER any OS.

Very Disappointing, but I'm still going to pay for another year of this crap when I buy the McGregor Cerrone PPV in a week. Im A Sucker......


I had nothing but trouble. I got far enough to decide it was a routing/load balancing issue and my provider. I found some old posts from a tech who was actually knowledgeable, and thought he might figure it out. Then he disappeared - I don't know if it was coincidence, or if he was giving up info, but I never heard from him again. I finally just gave up. I hate ESPN.

I'll be interested to see if yours gets better.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm trying to watch last nights replay on ESPN+ and have experienced nothing but technical farts on the replay that were recorded(sorry technical difficulties..ect) and the damed thing crashes on replay in ANY BROWSER any OS.

Very Disappointing, but I'm still going to pay for another year of this crap when I buy the McGregor Cerrone PPV in a week. Im A Sucker......


I had nothing but trouble. I got far enough to decide it was a routing/load balancing issue and my provider. I found some old posts from a tech who was actually knowledgeable, and thought he might figure it out. Then he disappeared - I don't know if it was coincidence, or if he was giving up info, but I never heard from him again. I finally just gave up. I hate ESPN.

I'll be interested to see if yours gets better.If you have a TV, try a Roku. Never had a problem. Gonna resubscribe soon; will let know if there are any issues.

[Seventyniner]

https://youtu.be/WOgetk3pQuI Harden lite

Reminds me of Derrick White in last year's game 3. Just kept scoring at the rim.

[sasaint]

2 Frist and 2 second round Draft picks are on the team as well as a pretty decent 2 way contract player in Eubanks

That's essentially a starting FIVE that better than ANY college 1 and done GOAT, so this is VERY special Developmental "season" for the Spurs.

Yeah, there is some definite talent there. In fact, I have been very impressed with Metu in the few clips I have seen of him and his few appearances in SA. He looks like a different player this season - physically as well as skill-wise. He seems to have added some good muscle and he seems to have matured quite a bit in the game. I hope the injury is mild, and he rehabs quickly. I am really rooting for the guy. And, of course, Keldon. Guy's attitude is better than anybody else in the entire organization. Anyhow, thanks, again.

[Sugus]

https://i.imgur.com/Oy0CMwM.png


The FAB FIVE of Austin

Yep and Metu and Keldon get MORE YOKED by the week

I'm thinking they got that "Lebron James Supplements" Hook up...

I would if I were them...

Not Hatin.

Nice job on the edit. Really interesting season for Austin, I've been catching some of their games and they play surprisingly solidly for a GL team. Metu and Keldon (and hope Luka) better get on those HGH treatments, every player in the league is on that shit nowadays and Silver is clearly more interested in ratings than rules, and hormone treatments reduce injury risk, shorten recovery times and help players develop into muscle masses that leap out the gym.

By the way, thanks for the video on Metu's injury; it didn't look as bad as I thought when reading the original tweet, though of course things like ACL or plantar injuries aren't immediately obvious. Any word on his status yet?

[ace3g]

Spurs play tonight at 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200109/NASAUS/

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/TyJagerRadio/status/1215424506480799745

[ZeusWillJudge]

Spurs play tonight at 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200109/NASAUS/


Thanks, Ace, for the constant updates, videos, stories, etc. You really are one of the gems here on ST.

[exstatic]

Thanks, Ace, for the constant updates, videos, stories, etc. You really are one of the gems here on ST.
The bar is pretty low, though. All you have to be is non-hysterical.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE64riBZ4RQ

https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1215486794961235969

[GAustex]

Nothing outside of 2 feet for Keldon.
Luka seems like he is dragging his steps-like his legs are fatigued.
I get the props for Keldon being a hound dog-just not sure he’s gonna be able to get all that at the rim in the big boy league.

[Dejounte]

Nothing outside of 2 feet for Keldon.
Luka seems like he is dragging his steps-like his legs are fatigued.
I get the props for Keldon being a hound dog-just not sure he’s gonna be able to get all that at the rim in the big boy league.

Pretty sure he will.

[exstatic]

Pretty sure he will.

Yeah, he's got he build to finish at the rim. He'll get some blocked, but once he learns to throw that big body into the shot blocker, he'll finish just fine in the NBA.

[Mr. Body]

You gotta realize Samanac is a twenty year-old living in a foreign country. Have patience.

[BackHome]

I think White, Walker, Keldon, Luka, and Poodle will be one of the best benches in the NBA next year.

[DavidTheGoliath]

The bar is pretty low, though. All you have to be is non-hysterical.

Just like that one dude in this thread who gets all pissy whenever keldons game is being doubted. Like dude its just basketball, if hes right about him being a game changing player, then good for him. If not dont worry we wont rub it in your face, we wont get anything if we are right or wrong anyways :downspin:

Goodluck if your only achievement in life is being correct on an internet forum :lol:cry

[313]

I think White, Walker, Keldon, Luka, and Poodle will be one of the best benches in the NBA next year.
:lol maybe in 2023

[Russ]

Does anyone know Metu's injury diagnosis or when he'll return?

[ace3g]

Spurs of Austin play tonight at 7

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200112/AUSSBL/

[ace3g]

Luka not in the SL tonight and hasn't played either, hmmmm....

[Maddog]

Luka not in the SL tonight and hasn't played either, hmmmm....

Load Management

[tholdren]

Lonnie bout to make this Austin team legit.

[ace3g]

https://youtu.be/N76vbhkysAo

Did this fool even TRAVEL WITH THE TEAM????

My only other guess - was he with the Spurs vs Raptors?

[ace3g]

:tu:tu
https://i.imgur.com/MjOEBc7.jpg


Found him He is dressed all tactical and at the end of the bench....

[RC_Drunkford]

https://youtu.be/UL5RMvn9xgo

Gettin REAL PHYSICAL out there.

whoever questioned Keldon's athletic ability was wrong

[emanueldavidginobili]

Good to see Metu healthy.

[dbestpro]

Keldon cannot hit the three. Without it he will rarely see an NBA floor.

[Degoat]

Keldon cannot hit the three. Without it he will rarely see an NBA floor.

He can hit the 3 ball, he’s not a great shooter but he’s solid

[John B]

Glad to see Metu healthy. I like him physical but he needs to also hit them 3’s and maybe give Lyles some competition.

[Sugus]

https://youtu.be/eRD1RRWWgbA


https://youtu.be/iRgX3XIFwok

Nice to see Metu looking springy. Looks like the injury wasn't too severe. Thanks for the content as always.

[emanueldavidginobili]

18-11-5-6 blocks and two threes in 25 minutes for Metu. The minutes he’s played this season in the NBA granted it was garbage time he’s played well.

[talkspurs]

Metu needs to get some PT on the big squad. He has played well in his limited time in SA and has played really well in Austin. He also is not going against star caliber at his position. He is probably more mobile then gay and as mobile as Lyles. I also think his defense is better then both. He is probably less mature (chase balls for blocks when better to stay grounded) but his skill makes up for this. Let him have some time and see what he can do.

[dbestpro]

These guys can play at the G-league level but all of them are failing at one of the most important pro skills that being the three point shot. I would rather see them focusing on the three going forward cause that is what matters most in today's NBA.

[Sugus]

Metu needs to get some PT on the big squad. He has played well in his limited time in SA and has played really well in Austin. He also is not going against star caliber at his position. He is probably more mobile then gay and as mobile as Lyles. I also think his defense is better then both. He is probably less mature (chase balls for blocks when better to stay grounded) but his skill makes up for this. Let him have some time and see what he can do.

I wonder how much are our big men learning from Timmy, and how much time do they spend training with him. Jakob has gotten noticeably better at shot blocking and defensive positioning in general, biting much less on fakes and staying on his feet. Metu could use some lessons, and definitely some time with the main squad. I hope next season is the one where all our projects are finally recalled for good (except for Luka maybe if he looks a year away still), and Keldon, Metu, and Spoon get consistent bench minutes to show their worth.

[buujness]

As awesome as Keldon and Metu were, Quinndary had himself a solid game too. 16 pts on 13 shots with 6 boards, 4 assists and no turnovers. Played solid defense, too. Hopefully, he can start putting together some more consistent performances going forward. Keldon could use the help.

[RC_Drunkford]

damn Metu is starting to look really good. What's your take on him Drew? I always thought he had a very complete game, it's just about it translating to the NBA, but I think he's getting there. He's looked a lot better in garbage time minutes, I'd really like to see him more on the big team.

[RC_Drunkford]

He is BETTER than LYLES, his "garbage time" numbers with the Big Boy Club proves it IMHO. Its all this Popovich's "pay his dues" BS that is keeping him NOT EVEN PLAYING WITH THE TEAM.

He is a better shooter

He is a better more physical rebounder

He is a better passer

He is a better defender(when he and keldon are together...shit...forgetaboutit )

Oh yeah he is only 22.

This is gonna be another JaMycheal Green situation but Chimezie is better than Green.

that's exactly what I'm thinking too. Lyles only scores 5 points per game and is only shooting 33% from 3 and his shooting percentages at the rim and from 3-10 feet are below average. Metu is a better defender, shot blocker, faster and more athletic and I think he can average better than 59% shooting from 0-3 feet just by having hops alone. Besides that he also has a pretty lethal midrange jumper

[emanueldavidginobili]

These guys can play at the G-league level but all of them are failing at one of the most important pro skills that being the three point shot. I would rather see them focusing on the three going forward cause that is what matters most in today's NBA.
I agree, but at least they're attempting them that's a plus. Luka 4.6, Spoon 3.6, Keldon 2.9, and Metu 1.5. I think they will be fine I can't speak on Luka but I know Keldon and Spoon in college were solid at the three point shot, Spoon even shot 39% twice. I'm really happy with Metu. He shot 3 threes in his first two years of college and went 12/40 in his 3rd year. His stroke is looking pretty good right now.

[B1gduff]

So now y'all are on the Metu train? but happened to people that wanted him cut?

[B1gduff]

So now y'all are on the Metu train? but happened to people that wanted him cut?

But i do agreed with you guys, Metu should start getting some looks at Pf.

[Harry Callahan]

Metu is an above average athlete even at NBA level based on my observations. His contract is a cheap two-way deal at a very modest salary. Perhaps he is worth a more substantial deal next year with the big club Spurs.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I know I'm the biggest Keldon Johnson Stan but something went off with Metu Eubanks and even Hommes when they play and are around this KID. I'll give the Coaching staff and Pop the benefit of the doubt, coming in this season from last there was no way to see THIS METU because he wasn't around THIS KELDON but what ever is
going on in practice THIS Metu has handles where he didn't, he has fades, he has post moves, he has FIRE and he has developed in the last couple of weeks a dam good 3 point stroke.
How's his defense I know he can block shots. I'm wondering if he can guard players like Siakam and those type of guys, is his foot speed quick enough? This team really doesn't have a guy to match up with those type of players. I mean his foot speed you'd think would be better than Rudy at this point.

[Russ]

How's his defense I know he can block shots. I'm wondering if he can guard players like Siakam and those type of guys, is his foot speed quick enough? This team really doesn't have a guy to match up with those type of players. I mean his foot speed you'd think would be better than Rudy at this point.

Metu has major defensive potential due to his size, build, quickness, etc.

His challenge will be scoring enough to stay on the floor.

[Dejounte]

Metu's problem is still being a blackhole on offense (he is an ISO post player), the same way Aldridge is. For him to be effective, the offense needs to be centered around him. He currently doesnt move around enough on offense and he looks to make a play for himself first before trying to find the next guy. This is my observation of Metu. I'm not saying he wont improve.

[exstatic]

Metu is an above average athlete even at NBA level based on my observations. His contract is a cheap two-way deal at a very modest salary. Perhaps he is worth a more substantial deal next year with the big club Spurs.

It's not a two way, it's a legit NBA contract, and they paid him a small part of the MLE, since it's for 3 years. He occupies one of our 15 NBA roster spots. He won't need a new deal next year, since he'll already be under contract. In 2021, he'll be a restricted FA.

He's looked better this year. He looked awful in NBA minutes, but the more concerning thing was that his gleague numbers were so average. A guy that athletic should be owning the paint as a rim runner on offense, and he barely shot 50%. Better gleague numbers this year.

[palangi]

He is BETTER than LYLES, his "garbage time" numbers with the Big Boy Club proves it IMHO. Its all this Popovich's "pay his dues" BS that is keeping him NOT EVEN PLAYING WITH THE TEAM.

He is a better shooter

He is a better more physical rebounder

He is a better passer

He is a better defender(when he and keldon are together...shit...forgetaboutit )

Oh yeah he is only 22.

This is gonna be another JaMycheal Green situation but Chimezie is better than Green.

Im tired of this have to prove it shit Pop has adopted. While some do need it, others could help the big club now. All the while we have to watch shit like Forbes, belinelli, mills, etc...
We don't have the same roster when doing this was a bonus for the franchise.

[spurraider21]

keldons gotta prove he can shoot or else he's just a better blossomgame

[rjv]

will Metu have to play at the stretch 4? if so, does he have the potential to develop a three point shot, with regularity? or, is he more of a center? perhaps, a capella with a better mid-range shot.

[Harry Callahan]

It's not a two way, it's a legit NBA contract, and they paid him a small part of the MLE, since it's for 3 years. He occupies one of our 15 NBA roster spots. He won't need a new deal next year, since he'll already be under contract. In 2021, he'll be a restricted FA.

He's looked better this year. He looked awful in NBA minutes, but the more concerning thing was that his gleague numbers were so average. A guy that athletic should be owning the paint as a rim runner on offense, and he barely shot 50%. Better gleague numbers this year.

My bad. You are correct. $3MM over a two year period (2019 and 2020 seasons) is REALLY good money for someone who was not a high draft pick and is trying to get established. At least the Spurs have another year to evaluate him for the long term.

[Sugus]

keldons gotta prove he can shoot or else he's just a better blossomgame

Jaron was never this aggressive on scoring, had this physicality, the touch around the rim that Keldon has and, above all, the drive/energy that Keldon has displayed. This all led to him averaging a measly 4.2ppg in his stint with the Cavs, I don't even know where he is now. Keldon looks to have a higher floor than Jaron's ceiling at the very least, though I agree work on his shot would be nice to see. At this point though it's obvious that the coaching staff has been telling him to focus on his work in the paint; we'll see whether that focus changes as the season progresses.

[Russ]

If the standard of Spurstalk, and apparently the NBA Social media from all the chatter, is Brandon Fucking CLARKE getting some put backs, lobs, n shit then Metu has the potential to be the next Pascal Siakam as far as I'm concerned .

Brandon Clarke is only regarded as the next Big Thing because the Spurs (very astutely) didn't draft him.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Jaron was never this aggressive on scoring, had this physicality, the touch around the rim that Keldon has and, above all, the drive/energy that Keldon has displayed. This all led to him averaging a measly 4.2ppg in his stint with the Cavs, I don't even know where he is now. Keldon looks to have a higher floor than Jaron's ceiling at the very least, though I agree work on his shot would be nice to see. At this point though it's obvious that the coaching staff has been telling him to focus on his work in the paint; we'll see whether that focus changes as the season progresses.

He's with the Rio Grande Valley Vipers now...I guess his game didn't blossom with the Spurs...

[sasaint]

According to Real Plus Minus Chizme has a postive .33 so "Looking awful in NBA minutes" is subjective.

At this point Metu's NBA minutes are far too scant to be any gauge at all. His G-league numbers and the eye test are really the only ways to begin to evaluate him until he does get some burn in the NBA. Unless the Spurs absolutely fall out of the Race for Eight, that's all we are likely to have this season.

[duncan2150]

The WC with the Nigeria was a good eye test for metu last summer and he did pretty well.

[itzsoweezee]

Brandon Clarke is only regarded as the next Big Thing because the Spurs (very astutely) didn't draft him.

The Spurs passed on a 23 year old role player for a 19 year old whose ceiling is a role player, in about 4 years.

Very astute of this front office. Just adds to their astute record of decision making the past few years.

[RC_Drunkford]

I know I'm the biggest Keldon Johnson Stan but something went off with Metu Eubanks and even Hommes when they play and are around this KID. I'll give the Coaching staff and Pop the benefit of the doubt, coming in this season from last there was no way to see THIS METU because he wasn't around THIS KELDON but what ever is
going on in practice THIS Metu has handles where he didn't, he has fades, he has post moves, he has FIRE and he has developed in the last couple of weeks a dam good 3 point stroke.

:bobo

I really like this G-League team. Keldon, Metu and Weatherspoon should all be able to help the main team next season

[Sugus]

The Spurs passed on a 23 year old role player for a 19 year old whose ceiling is a role player, in about 4 years.

Very astute of this front office. Just adds to their astute record of decision making the past few years.

Luka Samanic has the tools to become much more than a roleplayer. Time will tell if he puts it together, peaks as a roleplayer, or even phases out of the league due to not developing. At pick 19 you can give yourself the luxury of gambling for a multi-year project and develop them; I'd be much more interested in immediate production/ability from a top 3 pick, tbh, like Ja Morant and RJ Barret are giving their teams this season.

[sasaint]

:bobo

I really like this G-League team. Keldon, Metu and Weatherspoon should all be able to help the main team next season

Not Spoon. We already have a cluttered backcourt.

[RC_Drunkford]

Not Spoon. We already have a cluttered backcourt.

don't resign Forbes and Beli and sign Spoon. Not hard to understand why

[sasaint]

don't resign Forbes and Beli and sign Spoon. Not hard to understand why

I am all in. But I don't run the Spurs, and neither of those guys is my pet.

[palangi]

I don't get the hate from so many here on samanic. You fuckers all thought Metu sucked too.

[talkspurs]

I supported Metu in the Summer.

[CGD]

Nice to see Metu looking springy. Looks like the injury wasn't too severe. Thanks for the content as always.

Man, Keldon ended that dude