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exstatic
01-14-2020, 04:20 PM
I don't get the hate from so many here on samanic. You fuckers all thought Metu sucked too.

Metu sucked hard last year, and underwhelmed in the gleague. This year is a different story.

RC_Drunkford
01-14-2020, 05:01 PM
People are just impatient with Samanic. He just turned 20. He played U17/18 basketball in Europe, he didn't play Euroleague. so the G-League is tougher competition than what he had to face in Slowenia. He bulked up before the draft. He bulked up some more in preseason. I assume he's still bulking up. He's versatile and has a high ceiling. It makes sense for the Spurs to draft players with a higher ceiling instead of immediate contributors. This team is rebuilding on the fly, we are not in win now mode.

Brandon Clarke is better right now, but he played 3 years of college ball. He didn't even have a jump shot last season. Samanic has significantly better G-League stats than Clarke had in his first college year.
If he has a good summer league and then plays another season in the G-League he should start to dominate there. Spurs can bring him over in 2021 when he will be 22. I think he has the potential to be something like Andrei Kirilenko which would be valuable as fuck

r0drig0lac
01-14-2020, 05:12 PM
I think he has the potential to be something like Andrei Kirilenko which would be valuable as fuck

Kirilenko was an A + defender (and especially one of the most versatile defenders all time), what are the similarities with Kirilenko that you can see in Luka?

TimDunkem
01-14-2020, 05:53 PM
Metu another Siakam...:lmao I've heard it all.

DPG21920
01-14-2020, 06:01 PM
keldons gotta prove he can shoot or else he's just a better blossomgame

He shot decent from 3 in college but yeah - that will be a big deal for him. He can drive well, but man to me, for someone who was supposedly a really good athlete, it does not feel that way when I watch him.

RC_Drunkford
01-14-2020, 06:04 PM
Kirilenko was an A + defender (and especially one of the most versatile defenders all time), what are the similarities with Kirilenko that you can see in Luka?

Almost the same body type. Samanic is 2 inches taller than Kirilenko and 10 pounds lighter. Giving that he's bulking up he should reach Kirilenko's weight. I know Samanic has a lot less wing span than Kirilenko, about 5 inches, but they have similar mobility as well. Samanic is definitely able to defend guards on the perimeter and with him getting stronger he should be a good post defender as well.

Kirilenko had a very versatile skill set where he was a 5x5 threat who could fill up the stat sheet in every category. I think Samanic could develop into a similar player and a better shooter than Kirilenko. AK-47 shot below 30% from 3 for the majority of his career. Samanic will probably never be the shot blocker Kirilenko was, but he should become a good defender

spurraider21
01-14-2020, 06:14 PM
samanic hasn't shown anything resembling the all-world defense kirilenko played... i have no clue where thats coming from. theres more to measurables when it comes to being a good or great defender

ace3g
01-14-2020, 07:26 PM
Spurs play tonight at 9pm

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200114/AUSSTO/

emanueldavidginobili
01-14-2020, 07:36 PM
Spurs play tonight at 9pm

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200114/AUSSTO/
Thanks! I’m actually going to be able to watch this game tonight for the first time this season. Hopefully Luka plays tonight, still no word on why he sat out last game?

GAustex
01-14-2020, 10:05 PM
Drew you are an Austin Spurs animal

talkspurs
01-14-2020, 10:06 PM
Metu and Luka starting.

emanueldavidginobili
01-14-2020, 10:27 PM
Ledbetter is terrible my god, why is this 31 year old on the team still?

Russ
01-14-2020, 11:03 PM
Ledbetter is terrible my god, why is this 31 year old on the team still?

For the same reason that Crash Davis was on the team in "Bull Durham."

Chinook
01-15-2020, 12:25 AM
A number of people have been shitting on Samanic and pumping up Metu. Luka looks better than Chim did last year. While it would be cool if Samanic were already a rotation player, the team has plenty of alternatives that allow them to be patient with his development. It won't be obvious how much better he's gotten until summer league or even next year in the d-league. I say that as a guy who really pounded the table for Clarke before the draft and is still sick over the team passing over him and Bazley

emanueldavidginobili
01-15-2020, 12:45 AM
Some random thoughts after watching this team for the first time all the way through.

Luka had a pathetic performance, the vibe I’m getting from him it seems like he thinks he’s to good to be playing in the G-league. In reality he looks years from becoming just a role player in the NBA. He’s a blackhole out there, I noticed a couple times teammates blatantly didn’t pass him the ball even when he was open. Jogging up and down the court, hands on his hips mid play, half ass swipes at the ball without moving his feet. He had two nice drives to the basketball other than that everything he put up was soft as baby shit. I hope the best for him but man he needs a reality check ASAP.

Metu really stood out tonight, he had 7 blocks and should have had 9 if not for two bad calls. His timing is really impressive. His shot looks smooth, the one three pointer he made he shot it in rhythm no hesitation. He also displayed really good hands tonight he caught a lot of wild passes which turned right into dunks, he doesn’t try to lay anything in which I like. He had some freakish plays tonight and overall just hustled his ass off, he needs to get some reps with the main squad and put pressure on some of these guys in SA.

Like everyone knows here Keldon has a crazy motor, just balls to the wall the entire game. He uses his body really well going to the basket and shielding himself from the defenders. 0-4 from three tonight, he has to start making them but at least he’s attempting them. Rebounded really well too just has a really good knack for the ball.

Spoon is tough as nails and strong as hell I like him a lot. He has great pace to his game and also has a good knack for the ball. He also displayed tough shot making ability which he showed a lot in his days at Mississippi St.

Keldon, Spoon, and Metu all should be on the Spurs next year and hopefully Beli and Forbes are gone, this team would be a lot better off moving forward.

emanueldavidginobili
01-15-2020, 01:15 AM
OOH Bolded Dude gave us his "thoughts"
so "random" so ........ What ever dude


https://youtu.be/FF9Pv8R4kRI


https://youtu.be/ZhR9fhfJVwo


https://youtu.be/xK-VUjmbhXE

Did I intrude in your thread? You going to be okay buddy? :lol

emanueldavidginobili
01-15-2020, 01:25 AM
I'm confused, are you the originator of "random thoughts" is it a Jack Handy SNL thing? (Deep thoughts by jack handy). Is Timvp jacking your style or are you doing his?

Any thoughts that are random about Land war in Asia?


Thanks for your thoughts... Welcome to the party.... Looking forward to more of your ramdomness and thoughtness...
Get out of your basement and get some pussy Drew, have a goodnight :toast

DavidTheGoliath
01-15-2020, 01:42 AM
Why are people so worked up in here? Esp being bolded :lol:cry
Pretty pathetic for a "self anointed good" poster. Tbh tbh

Dejounte
01-15-2020, 06:54 AM
TheDrewShow you do realize you turn bold automatically right? Lmao. I didnt press anything or do anything to be bold. I think by a certain number of posts you become bold.... I wonder what you will do when you turn bold.

Anyway, have to say it again..... Keldon is a beast.

DavidTheGoliath
01-15-2020, 07:09 AM
Now they are writing they DRIEST articles too. Sure hope nobody is paying for that copy. Real BOOMER type stuff. Its 2020 put some social media post in your articles, how about a joke or two? Make a video or something. How about a Podcast(although I recall a blogtalk show way back.... some people just cant spit those vocals... )

Write your own shit bruh. I read your post, youre actually ok aside from the shit talking. Just me tho.

jermaine
01-15-2020, 10:45 AM
How is Metu not getting any burn with us yet? His energy, defense, Rebounding, etc.....

BALLZ & MY WORD
01-15-2020, 11:04 AM
Metu has been beastly

SpurSpike
01-15-2020, 12:10 PM
Haven't been following the G league but have Keldon and Metu been dominating like this on a nightly basis? If so, pretty cool. Everyone was pretty low on Metu last year but iv seen nothing but praise from most posters this year and i will admit that he has looked really good for the few minutes he has had with the Spurs this season. Its crazy how much a persons game can improve in 1 year.

Duncan87
01-15-2020, 12:30 PM
Yes they have dominated gleague. But when Pop has put Metu in he’s looked completely lost offensively and Defensively

Kobe'sAchilles
01-15-2020, 12:52 PM
I'm super impressed with Metu and Witherspoon. Both need to be in the rotation (especially Metu).
Keldon put up the stats but I don't see his offensive game translating to the NBA. He needs a lot of work offensively. No real midrange, no 3 point shot, not super fast, just uses his strength to barrel over people. That works well in the G-league but not the NBA

B1gduff
01-15-2020, 12:54 PM
Metu has some pretty quick footwork and speed for guy his size. I would definitely like to see him get some runs with the main club.

B1gduff
01-15-2020, 12:56 PM
But i've seen from these guy when given the chance to play, most of them seem to be lost not having a clear idea on their roles. Lonnie was the same early on the defensive end, Metu seem the same on that end the few times i have seen him.

RC_Drunkford
01-15-2020, 01:34 PM
Metu with a monster stat line. Give this guy NBA minutes

duncan2150
01-15-2020, 01:39 PM
Yes they have dominated gleague. But when Pop has put Metu in he’s looked completely lost offensively and Defensively

That's not true, Metu is playing only some garbage time and he was pretty good a lot of times.

You can check the grades for that.

Looks like he could give something the spurs don't have, at least for a few minutes.

Sugus
01-15-2020, 01:42 PM
Metu, Keldon and Spoon look like they could all be contributing to the main squad next season. The only thing we're missing is a new, up to modern game speed HC and we're set.

RC_Drunkford
01-15-2020, 01:58 PM
Metu is easily the best defensive PF we got on the whole roster, just by his shot-blocking ability alone. Then consider that one of our other 2 PFs only averages 5.5 points per game and it's not far fetched to think that putting him into the rotation might improve the team

Chinook
01-15-2020, 07:56 PM
Just reporting the news, if you don't like the news

tough Titty

What does that have to do with anything I said?

ZeusWillJudge
01-15-2020, 08:15 PM
What does that have to do with anything I said?

It has nothing to do with anything you said. He thinks he's found a niche here with the G-League, and it makes him semi-famous. So he doesn't like it when anyone challenges his position as Thread King. Just like the quote below where he doesn't like anyone giving thoughts. I tried to give him the benefit of a doubt, but he's just another attention whore. A fake. I'd be happy to let him have this thread and start another Austin thread, if he'd agree to stay here.




OOH Bolded Dude gave us his "thoughts"
so "random" so ........ What ever dude

JuneJive
01-15-2020, 08:33 PM
Don't quote him. Jesus.

ace3g
01-17-2020, 11:11 PM
Back to the real season.

Sugus
01-18-2020, 06:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HG6o0mk.png



Yep I wanna keep arguing how "small" and "nonathletic" Keldon is..

Keldon Lonnie are the future... as has been said Weatherspoon is dam sure better than Bryn. Metu and Trey?
Foggetabout it.

METU all the WAY..

to bad our coach is in "Some people just want to see the WORLD BURN mode"

hopefully he is gone next year

Looking forward to this losing season... It might just be what the Spurs need. All the Ls hopefully force Pop's way out, so we can get a coach that's good at developing young guys and giving them minutes while putting them in positions to succeed. DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Luka, Metu, Poeltl, Spoon... The team actually has a lot of young players with upside that will get real burn next season. Ship out the vets, get a high pick, let's see what we got in this young core. Can't wait for '20-'21 tbh.

RC_Drunkford
01-18-2020, 09:31 PM
Looking forward to this losing season... It might just be what the Spurs need. All the Ls hopefully force Pop's way out, so we can get a coach that's good at developing young guys and giving them minutes while putting them in positions to succeed. DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Luka, Metu, Poeltl, Spoon... The team actually has a lot of young players with upside that will get real burn next season. Ship out the vets, get a high pick, let's see what we got in this young core. Can't wait for '20-'21 tbh.

:pop: "Not until I'm in charge. Bryn, Marco get out there and defend"

slick'81
01-18-2020, 09:36 PM
Looking forward to this losing season... It might just be what the Spurs need. All the Ls hopefully force Pop's way out, so we can get a coach that's good at developing young guys and giving them minutes while putting them in positions to succeed. DJ, White, Lonnie, Keldon, Luka, Metu, Poeltl, Spoon... The team actually has a lot of young players with upside that will get real burn next season. Ship out the vets, get a high pick, let's see what we got in this young core. Can't wait for '20-'21 tbh.


Assuming pop ok's a rebuild under his watch

BackHome
01-19-2020, 02:19 AM
The biggest question is who is Poop replacement??

Ocotillo
01-19-2020, 09:46 AM
With the way Becky is squirming and internally WTF? ing as she watches Poop Coach and STILL doing her JOB They way the Players look to her in this situation. I'm 1000% behind her as the next coach.

If not her then Blake Ahearn he could be and probably is the next Quin Snyder.

There are MANY options. Credit where its due. Pop and the Organization has a healthy TREE


I mean even Udoka isn't beyond the realm of possibility. I had been thinking about if Ahearn might be the one, all three you mention would be strong.

RC_Drunkford
01-19-2020, 09:51 AM
The biggest question is who is Poop replacement??

It doesn't matter. It could be anybody and the rotations would be better from the jump

K...
01-19-2020, 01:18 PM
Am i correct that the only person who has been leaked as a coach is Bill Self? To me that's suspect and could just be self trying to get more college $$$ but the connection to RC is too strong to think that the offer isnt Self's to refuse.

Gorepopovich
01-19-2020, 02:10 PM
Manu.
The biggest question is who is Poop replacement??

exstatic
01-20-2020, 08:09 AM
Am i correct that the only person who has been leaked as a coach is Bill Self? To me that's suspect and could just be self trying to get more college $$$ but the connection to RC is too strong to think that the offer isnt Self's to refuse.

College coaches mostly fail in the NBA. It’s not just Xs and Os. It’s player management. In the NCAA, they hold a players future in their hands. It’s a coaches league, the opposite of the NBA. Just look at Beilin in Cleveland. He’s a good college coach, but has no idea how to relate to NBA players. Sure, they’re bad, but that’s only part of the issue.

ace3g
01-21-2020, 06:10 PM
Spurs play tonight @ 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200121/OKLAUS/

Russ
01-21-2020, 08:32 PM
Spurs play tonight @ 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200121/OKLAUS/

It's starting now on FSSW.

ace3g
01-21-2020, 09:04 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1219799990090059777

GAustex
01-21-2020, 09:22 PM
It should be called the “no d league”

GAustex
01-21-2020, 09:22 PM
Keldon is bulling people

ZeusWillJudge
01-21-2020, 09:23 PM
Metu with a three then back again with a Lob Dunk


FUCK ....why Pop Why?


I was thinking the same thing. I am so sick of watching the SA team lose, I would WELCOME watching Keldon and Metu play. If the team loses, what's the difference? At least I would be seeing a ray of hope for the future.

GAustex
01-21-2020, 09:31 PM
Someone need to lock Luke in the weight room. And feed him some whataburgers

GAustex
01-21-2020, 09:35 PM
He looks like he is LOOSING weight bruh
Drew I thought the same thing.

ZeusWillJudge
01-21-2020, 09:37 PM
Metu looks confident on the 3's. He's not hesitant. Hell, he doesn't even have to look down at his feet. :lol

GAustex
01-21-2020, 09:40 PM
Not sure about that top right pic

ZeusWillJudge
01-21-2020, 09:46 PM
Spurs Sports and Entertainment needs to bring over his mama or is Grandma to cook this boy some of HIS food or something....

Heh. I don't think it was mama's home cooking that turned skinny rookie Jokic into a monster with a prominent brow ridge. :lol

They need to put Sammich on... whatever regimen Jokic went on.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR46BSidYFLWdY3TQqCzsEe0JVMkI6S2 8IjQsWTBFXiPLa3OAMH&s

https://d1si3tbndbzwz9.cloudfront.net/basketball/player/37604/w192xh192_headshot.png

Sugus
01-21-2020, 10:15 PM
Metu needs some minutes with the main squad, been saying it forever. He isn't even a rookie so why is Pop so hell-bent on not playing him any minutes outside of rare garbage time? Is Marco at the 4 really a much better option than a developing player?

ace3g
01-21-2020, 10:26 PM
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1219821297540222977

ZeusWillJudge
01-21-2020, 10:26 PM
You can tell that Jockick was a Fat guy who was mall nourished. Classic Endomorp, det double chin was their even when Skinny. Skinny Fat.

Luka is a Ectomorph in my opinion.


You're right about the body type. Sammich is skinnier than Jokic ever was. But Jokic isn't your run of the mill fat boy. If you remember him from the playoffs last year, he's strong as hell and he had a lot more endurance than I gave him credit for.


Jokic is doughy-looking, but he's not flabby. And the changes to his head? I'm pretty sure he juiced his way to that bulk.

DavidTheGoliath
01-21-2020, 10:29 PM
He looks like he is LOOSING weight bruh

Thats how it works. You get lean first then your muscle grown. If you do weight training ofc.

ceperez
01-21-2020, 10:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fA2HzDKfOY

Nice highlights for Metu!

BackHome
01-21-2020, 10:56 PM
Happy for Metu it does show the Spurs are doing it the right way with rookies cause to be honest Metu looked totally lost last year. I am glad he is doing good cause to make it in the NBA you have to be a stud in G League which he was far from last year.

ZeusWillJudge
01-21-2020, 11:08 PM
Happy for Metu it does show the Spurs are doing it the right way with rookies cause to be honest Metu looked totally lost last year. I am glad he is doing good cause to make it in the NBA you have to be a stud in G League which he was far from last year.


Metu looked lost at the beginning of this year. I don't know what got into him. Some people have asked if he's worked with Duncan. I don't know, but he just took some giant steps forward.

Nobody has said much about Spoon tonight, but he's looking like he should catch on an NBA club, whether it's the Spurs or somewhere else.

ace3g
01-21-2020, 11:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgTzAzTu6Y

Dejounte
01-21-2020, 11:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1219817605810225153

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1219819415597932545

If Luka can continue making post moves like that, watch out. With his passing skills paired with improved strength--hes going to be unstoppable. Maybe he just needs to focus less on dribbling.

Dejounte
01-21-2020, 11:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgTzAzTu6Y

Hes learning from Keldon in these clips. You can see a vast difference with how hes scoring the ball now than in the beginming of the season. They look less fluky or less "lucky"

palangi
01-21-2020, 11:46 PM
Leave it up to drew and gaustex to complain About a guy who just put up 25 points and 13 rebounds.

You faggots will complain about anything.

RC_Drunkford
01-21-2020, 11:52 PM
Metu needs NBA minutes ASAP. He's got the complete package.

Sugus
01-21-2020, 11:56 PM
Where are the fucking retards who were going on and on about Luka's "shitty career"? :lmao

exstatic
01-22-2020, 07:22 AM
Watched the game, and now understand why Samanic hasn’t sniffed the big club yet. He is SO FUCKING LAZY on defense. Multiple times last night OKC would get a rebound, and get out on the break, and he literally jogs down the court so slowly that he couldn’t even contest a trailing three point attempt. He’ll have to clean that up.

D-Robinson 50 fan
01-22-2020, 08:35 AM
Watched the game, and now understand why Samanic hasn’t sniffed the big club yet. He is SO FUCKING LAZY on defense. Multiple times last night OKC would get a rebound, and get out on the break, and he literally jogs down the court so slowly that he couldn’t even contest a trailing three point attempt. He’ll have to clean that up.

I actually went to the game last night and Luka's motor is awful.

If he played as hard as Keldon or even half as hard as Keldon or Eubanks he could've dominated this game . He gave very little effort on anything outside of his immediate area around him last night. He closed out on shooters half assed, didn't box out much, and didn't really hustle back on defense if OKC tried to push the pace after getting a defensive stop

Metu out of all the players at shoot around seems to have a routine and takes it serious. He went to certain areas on the court and practiced certain shots seriously for a numerous amount of attempts then would go to another area and do the same. His shooting form looks really smooth and consistent also. He played around a little bit in the layup lines and shoot around but overall he was mostly very serious and concise

EasyMoney
01-22-2020, 08:59 AM
High hopes for Luka. Davis bertans with a post up game and higher iq.

D-Robinson 50 fan
01-22-2020, 09:06 AM
High hopes for Luka. Davis bertans with a post up game and higher iq.

I hope so also.

I will say this though, Davis always played hard and hustled. You could tell from the jump that Davis loves basketball and competing but Luka from the scouting reports, watching on television and seeing live just doesn't seem to have that fire or passion for the sport.

Luka has the athletic ability, body type, and shooting stroke to be a really good player and way better than Bertans but that's only if he really gives a damn about the game and tries to improve or give his all when he is on the court.

BackHome
01-22-2020, 09:07 AM
Not worried about Luka as Metu played pretty bad last year in G League which is why it takes some players one to three years to be ready for NBA when drafted.

ceperez
01-22-2020, 09:43 AM
I hope so also.

I will say this though, Davis always played hard and hustled. You could tell from the jump that Davis loves basketball and competing but Luka from the scouting reports, watching on television and seeing live just doesn't seem to have that fire or passion for the sport.

Luka has the athletic ability, body type, and shooting stroke to be a really good player and way better than Bertans but that's only if he really gives a damn about the game and tries to improve or give his all when he is on the court.

He just turned 20 years old. Hope the coaching staff gets him to learn work ethic.

exstatic
01-22-2020, 10:09 AM
Not worried about Luka as Metu played pretty bad last year in G League which is why it takes some players one to three years to be ready for NBA when drafted.

It's not that he's screwing up plays, or playing badly. He just doesn't seem to GAF. He knows how to play. You can tell when the ball is in his hands. He's got all of the tools. He just only really seems to come to life when the ball is in his hands. The thing is, he'll never be a #1 option in the NBA. He needs to play well without the ball, or he'll bust out and wind up back in Europe.

exstatic
01-22-2020, 10:13 AM
Metu looked lost at the beginning of this year. I don't know what got into him. Some people have asked if he's worked with Duncan. I don't know, but he just took some giant steps forward.

Nobody has said much about Spoon tonight, but he's looking like he should catch on an NBA club, whether it's the Spurs or somewhere else.

He needs to tighten up his 3 ball a bit, but he looks to be an NBA roster player. Oh, SA drafted him, so, barring a release or trade, it will be SA. He's a dog on defense, so I can see him catching on next year.

ceperez
01-22-2020, 10:40 AM
He needs to tighten up his 3 ball a bit, but he looks to be an NBA roster player. Oh, SA drafted him, so, barring a release or trade, it will be SA. He's a dog on defense, so I can see him catching on next year.

Pascal Siakam comparables

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/siakapa01.html

Maddog
01-22-2020, 10:44 AM
It's not that he's screwing up plays, or playing badly. He just doesn't seem to GAF. He knows how to play. You can tell when the ball is in his hands. He's got all of the tools. He just only really seems to come to life when the ball is in his hands. The thing is, he'll never be a #1 option in the NBA. He needs to play well without the ball, or he'll bust out and wind up back in Europe.

This was a concern voiced by some pre draft. He definitely has the tools to be really good. Hopefully it's just a bit of 20 year old angst/pouting.
I remember Becky in summer league mention he has talent and after him about not slacking off- I'll see if I can find it. (found it see below)
In the other hand- I wonder how Keldon's game will translate to the bigs.

Becky Hammon, on Spurs' first-round rookie Luka Samanic: "We’re going to stay on him. There’s times where he has these 'ooo-ahh' moments. There’s other times you have to remember he’s 19."

RC_Drunkford
01-22-2020, 12:15 PM
I actually went to the game last night and Luka's motor is awful.

If he played as hard as Keldon or even half as hard as Keldon or Eubanks he could've dominated this game . He gave very little effort on anything outside of his immediate area around him last night. He closed out on shooters half assed, didn't box out much, and didn't really hustle back on defense if OKC tried to push the pace after getting a defensive stop

Metu out of all the players at shoot around seems to have a routine and takes it serious. He went to certain areas on the court and practiced certain shots seriously for a numerous amount of attempts then would go to another area and do the same. His shooting form looks really smooth and consistent also. He played around a little bit in the layup lines and shoot around but overall he was mostly very serious and concise

I'm very high on Metu. He looks like he has put it together and really has no holes in his game at all. The comparisons to an early Siakam are definitely not far fetched.

Luka's effort has always been his main issue. I think Pop can make him change, but then again I don't want Pop as a coach. We just gotta see how he develops

ceperez
01-22-2020, 12:51 PM
I'm very high on Metu. He looks like he has put it together and really has no holes in his game at all. The comparisons to an early Siakam are definitely not far fetched.

Luka's effort has always been his main issue. I think Pop can make him change, but then again I don't want Pop as a coach. We just gotta see how he develops

However, he wasn't that good as part of the Nigerian NT. I don't think they had any NBA players.

It's taking him some time to become ready. But maybe Lonnie playing in the NBA is getting him motivated.

JuneJive
01-22-2020, 12:52 PM
Chim looks like a different player compared to last year.

How's his rim protection / help defense?

BackHome
01-22-2020, 01:07 PM
We talk about getting over yourself a lot on this board game and I think it kinda pertains to Metu. When he got signed you could tell he wasn’t happy not getting any minutes with the big boys and when he played in G League he was like a black whole on offense would not pass at all. I think being around the Big team this year more and him still getting playing time in G League and getting a few minutes with big team has helped him I also wonder how much Timmy is spending with him.

ceperez
01-22-2020, 01:18 PM
We talk about getting over yourself a lot on this board game and I think it kinda pertains to Metu. When he got signed you could tell he wasn’t happy not getting any minutes with the big boys and when he played in G League he was like a black whole on offense would not pass at all. I think being around the Big team this year more and him still getting playing time in G League and getting a few minutes with big team has helped him I also wonder how much Timmy is spending with him.

His stats have improved from last year. https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/m/metuch01d.html

Most notable is 3pt at 40% and 2pt at 59%. That's good numbers. Only slight increase in ppg at 16.

Samanic's numbers look bad.

Johnson's number look good except for .23 shooting from 3.

Sugus
01-22-2020, 01:43 PM
Metu needs some burn. Real minutes outside of garbage time (which the Spurs rarely get anyways). He'd be miles better than Demar or Marco at 4 which Pop loves to go to. It's actually funny seeing all the young players the Spurs have to develop, then watching Pop trot out the same fixed, vet-heavy lineups in the main team. Can't wait for Becky to take the helm next year.

ceperez
01-22-2020, 02:36 PM
Metu needs some burn. Real minutes outside of garbage time (which the Spurs rarely get anyways). He'd be miles better than Demar or Marco at 4 which Pop loves to go to. It's actually funny seeing all the young players the Spurs have to develop, then watching Pop trot out the same fixed, vet-heavy lineups in the main team. Can't wait for Becky to take the helm next year.

You have to wonder why they don't play Metu while Gay is injured. Doesn't he play the same position?

duncan2150
01-22-2020, 04:00 PM
I really think metu can play a little Bit, he looks way better than last year.

For ceperez the answer is pop and beli.

Truth4sale$
01-22-2020, 04:05 PM
Metu too me is a poor mans paskal Siakam, and when he finally gets a chance, the fans will see it. Of course it will likely be in his final contract year, and then he will leave for a bigger payday. The Spurs have addressed their guards of the future, and the forward and centers are still unknown. Time to let Metu loose. He has to have more upside than Lyles, and Gay is not the future at all.-Captain Obvious!

RC_Drunkford
01-22-2020, 05:40 PM
The main reason I want to see Metu play is his defense and shot-blocking ability. This team needs all the defense it can get and I think he can replace a player who averages 5 points per game

Maddog
01-23-2020, 09:16 AM
I'm excited about the potential of the Spurs in Austin-
But a word of caution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_G_League_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

D-Robinson 50 fan
01-23-2020, 11:23 AM
Your observation on why he didn't get any shots in the second half even though he was scorching 8-9 with 18 pts in the first? Was he calling for the shot, did you notice anything on the sidelines?

he wasn’t too aggressive if he wasn’t actually involved in the play on offense in the game I seen live. Quindary was pretty aggressive in the 2nd half and almost brought the team back.

Luka did take a couple of corner 3’s in the 4th quarter when the team was trying to make a comeback.

Luka overall and especially on defense needs to be more aggressive. Offensively I’ve seen Watching some replays that he can be aggressive but to a fault. He has to figure out a go to move and counter and work hard on those I feel. Sometimes he tries to do a bit too much offensively but defensively he doesn’t give as great an effort.

ceperez
01-24-2020, 10:55 AM
The main reason I want to see Metu play is his defense and shot-blocking ability. This team needs all the defense it can get and I think he can replace a player who averages 5 points per game

I agree here. Metu has enough talent and skill to replace Lyles.

ace3g
01-25-2020, 02:19 PM
Spurs play tonight at 7

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200125/AUSMHU/

ace3g
01-25-2020, 10:09 PM
Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/) 0
SF
29
6-17
2-7
0-0
-19
1
5
6
2
1
1
1
0
1
14


Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/) 34
PF
21
1-1
1-1
2-2
0
1
2
3
0
2
2
1
0
0
5


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/) 19
C
26
5-10
2-3
1-2
-11
1
7
8
0
4
2
4
2
0
14


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/) 15
SG
30
4-10
0-3
1-2
-21
0
1
1
5
2
3
2
1
0
9


Angel
Rodriguez
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629285/) 13
PG
25
4-6
1-2
2-3
-22
0
1
1
6
3
1
5
2
0
12


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/) 5

26
7-12
0-5
1-2
-17
3
5
8
2
2
2
3
0
0
15


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/) 2

17
1-6
1-6
0-0
3
0
1
1
2
2
1
0
0
1
3


Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/) 24

15
2-7
2-4
0-0
3
0
0
0
1
0
0
1
0
0
6


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/) 25

16
6-9
0-0
1-1
10
2
0
2
3
3
2
5
0
1
14


Kavion
Pippen
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629800/) 33

17
6-8
0-0
2-2
11
4
2
6
0
3
0
2
0
0
15


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/) 30

10
0-0
0-0
1-1
8
0
1
1
2
1
1
0
1
0
2


Tevin
King
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629886/) 11

2
0-0
0-0
0-0
5
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14
DNP - Inactive


Total
-
-
42-86
9-31
11-15
-
12
26
38
23
23
15
24
6
3
109


Percentages

49%
29%
73%

emanueldavidginobili
01-25-2020, 11:37 PM
Looks like Metu will be on the main squad replacing Carroll for the time being.

hombre
01-26-2020, 12:21 AM
How's Kavion Pippen looking? The kid is tall.

ace3g
01-27-2020, 09:10 PM
Spurs playing again tonight.

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200127/AUSMHU/

ace3g
01-27-2020, 10:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgoJEKdsrB4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEMduslkb5Q

Sugus
01-28-2020, 08:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgoJEKdsrB4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEMduslkb5Q

At least 5 of Luka's shots this game were uncontested bunnies to the glass. Safe to say he's not getting many of those in the NBA. But he's moving smoother and that shooting stroke looks good. As for Keldon, he should be practicing his shots more during GL games but it's great to see the aggressiveness that he has when attacking the rim and finishing. Nobody on the Spurs has that fire except for DeRozan when he's not bitching about calls. Hopefully we blow it up soon and bring him over... I'd like to see what he can really do.

Dejounte
01-29-2020, 07:30 AM
def missing the Big men who are up with the big boy club.

Keldon and Luka apparently don't play well together. Luka early Keldon Late. Would have been nice if they both were clicking at the same time

Weatherspoon had one of his worst games I've witnessed.

won points paint won rebounds assist


lost 3 point line just like the big boy club does on the regular...

made six to Memphis 11

Agree to disagree. Keldon found Luka inside multple times during his drives. I think they have a good 2 man play. Luka needs to learn how to pick and pop when Keldon drives and we have a "big 2" lmao

palangi
01-29-2020, 10:22 AM
At least 5 of Luka's shots this game were uncontested bunnies to the glass. Safe to say he's not getting many of those in the NBA. But he's moving smoother and that shooting stroke looks good. As for Keldon, he should be practicing his shots more during GL games but it's great to see the aggressiveness that he has when attacking the rim and finishing. Nobody on the Spurs has that fire except for DeRozan when he's not bitching about calls. Hopefully we blow it up soon and bring him over... I'd like to see what he can really do.

Geez you guys look for anything to complain about.

blizz
01-29-2020, 10:29 AM
Is it me or does Keldon have some Paul Pierce in his game?

Sugus
01-29-2020, 10:40 AM
Geez you guys look for anything to complain about.

What part specifically? Luka is absolutely not getting those bunnies in the NBA. Keldon absolutely has to work on his shot. If you're going to diss others for analyzing the game and players, you might as well put in the effort to make a little analysis yourself, otherwise you come off as, ironically, a complaining a-hole.

exstatic
01-29-2020, 10:48 AM
Geez you guys look for anything to complain about.

In the case of Luka, I actually agree with this. He'll have to get much stronger to finish at the rim in the NBA.

Someone was saying the same thing about Keldon, and I DISAGREE with that one. He's built like a M1A1 tank, and will simply need to learn to throw his body into the shot blocker to finish in the NBA.

Sugus
01-29-2020, 10:59 AM
In the case of Luka, I actually agree with this. He'll have to get much stronger to finish at the rim in the NBA.

Someone was saying the same thing about Keldon, and I DISAGREE with that one. He's built like a M1A1 tank, and will simply need to learn to throw his body into the shot blocker to finish in the NBA.

Agreed on all counts. The thing about Keldon, though, is that for the Spurs specifically his ability to finish at the rim (while obviously useful to an extent) is not a need of urgency. Due to the team's current composition (I'm skeptical the FO will blow it up until at least next season) the lanes and paint will be much too clogged for Keldon to go to work using his body, and given that we already have a lot of non-shooting players that already clog the paint to a degree, adding a non-shooting SG/SF (it's irrelevant if Keldon plays the 2 or 3 since DeMar will occupy the other guard position) is a recipe for disaster. Teams will easily dare the Spurs to shoot from outside. Keldon going with the bench lineup isn't much better in this aspect either (even though ideally he should start for his defense alone in place of the POS midget); White is more of a pass-first PG and Rudy doesn't trust his shot nowadays for some reason, and obviously Jakob "3pt shot" Poeltl doesn't space the floor in the slightest.

I could see a future post-blowup where we start DJ-Lonnie-Keldon-Luka-Poeltl, for example, and that could work if both Lonnie and Luka are willing to be volume shooters. But with the way this team is currently constructed, we just can't afford more minutes to non-shooters who aren't difference makers in other areas, or at least that's what I see.

exstatic
01-29-2020, 11:29 AM
Agreed on all counts. The thing about Keldon, though, is that for the Spurs specifically his ability to finish at the rim (while obviously useful to an extent) is not a need of urgency. Due to the team's current composition (I'm skeptical the FO will blow it up until at least next season) the lanes and paint will be much too clogged for Keldon to go to work using his body, and given that we already have a lot of non-shooting players that already clog the paint to a degree, adding a non-shooting SG/SF (it's irrelevant if Keldon plays the 2 or 3 since DeMar will occupy the other guard position) is a recipe for disaster. Teams will easily dare the Spurs to shoot from outside. Keldon going with the bench lineup isn't much better in this aspect either (even though ideally he should start for his defense alone in place of the POS midget); White is more of a pass-first PG and Rudy doesn't trust his shot nowadays for some reason, and obviously Jakob "3pt shot" Poeltl doesn't space the floor in the slightest.

I could see a future post-blowup where we start DJ-Lonnie-Keldon-Luka-Poeltl, for example, and that could work if both Lonnie and Luka are willing to be volume shooters. But with the way this team is currently constructed, we just can't afford more minutes to non-shooters who aren't difference makers in other areas, or at least that's what I see.

I don't see Keldon playing much with the starters when he comes up, and those issues aren't as pressing with the bench squad. White, Lonnie, Patty, and one of Rudy/Trey can all shoot. The only non-shooter is Poeltl.

Dejounte
01-29-2020, 12:44 PM
Agreed on all counts. The thing about Keldon, though, is that for the Spurs specifically his ability to finish at the rim (while obviously useful to an extent) is not a need of urgency. Due to the team's current composition (I'm skeptical the FO will blow it up until at least next season) the lanes and paint will be much too clogged for Keldon to go to work using his body, and given that we already have a lot of non-shooting players that already clog the paint to a degree, adding a non-shooting SG/SF (it's irrelevant if Keldon plays the 2 or 3 since DeMar will occupy the other guard position) is a recipe for disaster. Teams will easily dare the Spurs to shoot from outside. Keldon going with the bench lineup isn't much better in this aspect either (even though ideally he should start for his defense alone in place of the POS midget); White is more of a pass-first PG and Rudy doesn't trust his shot nowadays for some reason, and obviously Jakob "3pt shot" Poeltl doesn't space the floor in the slightest.

I could see a future post-blowup where we start DJ-Lonnie-Keldon-Luka-Poeltl, for example, and that could work if both Lonnie and Luka are willing to be volume shooters. But with the way this team is currently constructed, we just can't afford more minutes to non-shooters who aren't difference makers in other areas, or at least that's what I see.

Our lack of shooters is so overstated. The players who havent had the reputation of being good shooters have been trending up and are showing to be reliable. Any player who can show theyre not just a shooter is a plus.

Sugus
01-29-2020, 06:36 PM
I don't see Keldon playing much with the starters when he comes up, and those issues aren't as pressing with the bench squad. White, Lonnie, Patty, and one of Rudy/Trey can all shoot. The only non-shooter is Poeltl.

Thinking about it, it's not very easy to determine which players Keldon will or won't play alongside when he's finally done in Austin, since the answer could drastically change depending on whether we blow it up or don't. What today is our young bench playing behind the vets could all be starting next season, or not - at this point I see the Spurs missing the PO but that doesn't necessarily mean the FO blows it up, especially with Pop at the helm. I will say that, no matter his teammates, Keldon developing a reliable jumpshot would add a lot more dimensions to his game beyond taking it to the rim like he does now.


Our lack of shooters is so overstated. The players who havent had the reputation of being good shooters have been trending up and are showing to be reliable. Any player who can show theyre not just a shooter is a plus.

The problem is, the person most overtly concerned about the Spurs' lack of shooting is the one calling the shots for the team. As long as Pop is coaching the team, I won't be surprised to see him keep forcing no-D undersized shooters to "compensate" for the starters' general lack of outside shooting. In this picture, Keldon developing a 3pt shot makes him not only playable with the starters, but starting material at the 2/3. Again, it's all mere speculation until we see which path the FO will want to take for next season and beyond. Team could look very different by next year's training camp.

ace3g
01-29-2020, 09:13 PM
Spurs playing again tonight.

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200129/AUSNAS/

ZeusWillJudge
01-29-2020, 09:28 PM
They got Spoon playing SF? :lol Okay.

ace3g
01-29-2020, 10:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4AMP10JBI

Manong Ginobili
01-29-2020, 11:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4AMP10JBI

Looking great Luka!

emanueldavidginobili
01-29-2020, 11:41 PM
Surprised they had Keldon with main squad with Austin having a game tonight also

BG_Spurs_Fan
01-30-2020, 03:45 AM
Didn’t watch the game, only highlights, but Luka’s showing exactly why he’s such an exciting prospect - quick flawless jump shot, athleticism, awareness, putting the ball on the floor and beating people to the rim. He’s just turned 20 , hopefully he can put it all together and become a very good player. All the tools are there.

szkorhetz
01-30-2020, 03:55 AM
Didn’t watch the game, only highlights, but Luka’s showing exactly why he’s such an exciting prospect - quick flawless jump shot, athleticism, awareness, putting the ball on the floor and beating people to the rim. He’s just turned 20 , hopefully he can put it all together and become a very good player. All the tools are there.
I still don't get why Pop doesn't even give him a chance or at least a roster spot or garbage time minutes.

BillMc
01-30-2020, 03:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4AMP10JBI

He looks pretty good. First time I've seen him in a while.

exstatic
01-30-2020, 04:30 AM
Didn’t watch the game, only highlights, but Luka’s showing exactly why he’s such an exciting prospect - quick flawless jump shot, athleticism, awareness, putting the ball on the floor and beating people to the rim. He’s just turned 20 , hopefully he can put it all together and become a very good player. All the tools are there.

No one denies the toolset. It’s all about attitude and motor with Luka. Those will determine his future.

exstatic
01-30-2020, 04:34 AM
Surprised they had Keldon with main squad with Austin having a game tonight also

Apparently, DeMarre is permanently inactive, and with LMA down they need 13 actives, so one of Keldon or Luka has to be brought up and activated.

ace3g
02-01-2020, 08:09 PM
Spurs play tonight at 7:30


https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200201/AUSTEX/

ace3g
02-01-2020, 10:37 PM
Spurs of Austin made a comeback tonight

duncan2150
02-04-2020, 02:05 PM
https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200204/ACCAUS/


Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/)

24
SF
33
3-8
0-5
0-0
6
1
1
2
4
2
0
3
0
0
6


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/)

19
PF
32
10-20
2-6
3-4
-9
2
5
7
2
3
1
3
3
0
28


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/)

5
C
35
8-12
1-2
1-2
-7
5
9
14
2
2
4
0
1
0
18


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/)

15
SG
30
7-15
1-5
1-1
-6
0
6
6
3
3
1
4
0
2
17


Angel
Rodriguez
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629285/)

13
PG
29
4-8
2-4
1-2
-11
0
1
1
3
1
2
1
0
1
11


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/)

2

17
4-7
2-4
0-0
17
0
5
5
5
0
0
0
0
0
10


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/)

25

18
3-4
0-0
0-1
22
0
3
3
6
0
1
0
0
0
6


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/)

30

15
4-6
0-0
0-0
20
2
2
4
0
2
2
1
0
1
8


Kavion
Pippen
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629800/)

33

12
4-7
0-0
0-0
18
1
1
2
1
1
0
0
1
0
8


Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/)

34

14
1-2
0-0
0-0
5
0
2
2
1
1
0
1
1
0
2


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/)

14



Tevin
King
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629886/)

11



Total
-
-
48-89
8-26
6-10
-
11
35
46
27
15
11
13
6
4
114


Percentages

54%
31%
60%

ace3g
02-04-2020, 07:37 PM
So the Spurs did beat the Clippers after all...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czeZqGnT3Yw

Dejounte
02-04-2020, 07:43 PM
So the Spurs did beat the Clippers after all...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czeZqGnT3Yw

Huff and puff by Luka on that last dunk. Learning from Keldon

dbestpro
02-04-2020, 07:53 PM
They are moving the ball and playing more like a team than the parent club.

Manong Ginobili
02-04-2020, 09:54 PM
Great to see Luka again with another 20pt game. Also moving quite well.

BackHome
02-04-2020, 10:57 PM
Hopefully Luka can spend the Summer with Tim and Chip and work on his conditioning, low post moves, and his 3 ball.

ZeusWillJudge
02-05-2020, 12:25 AM
Spoon put up good number, but I hate it that he isn't making (or shooting) more 3's than this. He dishes enough dimes, and he playes good enough D, but these days a guy like him has to be a 3P threat too. He's got the stroke, IMO, but I don't see him pushing there.

slick'81
02-05-2020, 01:07 AM
Dont hurt em luka

ace3g
02-07-2020, 11:09 PM
Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/) 0
SF
35
7-13
0-4
2-6
15
2
5
7
2
3
2
2
0
1
17


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/) 19
PF
29
6-16
4-9
1-1
9
0
4
4
1
2
1
1
0
1
18


Chimezie
Metu
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629002/) 7
C
32
10-12
2-2
2-4
15
1
4
5
2
2
1
3
1
0
24


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/) 15
SG
30
5-11
3-6
3-3
13
1
7
8
7
3
1
1
0
0
17


Angel
Rodriguez
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629285/) 13
PG
21
2-2
0-0
0-1
20
0
0
0
6
6
2
1
0
0
4


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/) 14

19
5-8
0-0
6-6
-2
2
4
6
1
3
1
1
2
0
20

ace3g
02-07-2020, 11:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqo4jLobTXM

Sugus
02-07-2020, 11:21 PM
Well, I managed to watch the game tonight. Hadn't seen the Austin Spurs through this stretch where Metu & Keldon had been called up, so it was a bit refreshing. Arguably more fun that big boy club Spurs games tbh, at least I didn't feel like I was wasting my time watching them play only to fall apart in the 4th.

I was very impressed with Metu. He looks like a completely different player than last season - coordinated, athletic, powerful, and he's made some excellent progress on his jumper, especially long-distance. He went 2/2 from deep not including another made that didn't count because of a previously called foul, and every shot looked confident, smooth and within the offensive flow. He had 23 seemingly effortless points (team high) and I was also pleased with his defense, particularly shot-blocking instincts; they need to be polished but he's been aggresive when contesting shots, and a duo of him and Poeltl could definitely seal the rim instead of the porous defense of Forbes, Lyles and LMA that we're forced to sit through.

Luka also looked solid. With KJ & Metu back in the rotation, he didn't score as many points (18) but was still looking for his shot, going 4/9 from deep. I like that he isn't afraid to let it fly, he also had some deep tries that rimmed out a bit but it's good to see him work there. His shot motion is really quick and fluid - once he perfects it he's got the potential to be a sniper. I was not impressed with his rebounding aggressiveness and he seemed to stand around a bit at times, but as he's learning the system it's to be expected. His screen-setting was also softer than I'd expected, something I also thought of Metu (though his screens are better for now due to Metu's size advantage).

Keldon is, of the future main Spurs players, the one who needs to work the most on his shot. He had a few early misses from 3 after which he got hesitant and opted for drives, many times contested, where he's still finding ways to score that won't really be there in the big boy club. I really liked his energy otherwise, he had a couple good steals and deflections and some powerful finishes, particularly a late-game energy dunk. His energy looks contagious and something the Spurs are absolutely missing on the main roster, the fact that he's barely getting garbage time is infuriating.

Lastly, I saw a pretty good outing from 'Spoon. He filled the stat sheet going 17(5/11 FGM, 3-6 3PM)/8/7 with a steal and solid playmaking. He had some strong drives to the rim (I don't know whether the Suns' defense was particularly bland, as is usual in the GL, but a lot of our guys were easily getting layups at times) and was looking for his own shot too. He's simply better than Forbes in every single way besides a stupid % from 3 which Forbes has been awful shooting; his defensive instincts are better, he looks quicker, has a more varied scoring arsenal and better playmaking, knows how to set up his teammates, isn't a liability on the dribble. A big FU to Pop for not even caring to watch his young guys, because there's a lot of potential that he's missing out and the main club Spurs aren't going anywhere, anyways.

One thing that wasn't good about the Austin Spurs in general was closing out on shooters outside, where a few screens always seemed to leave a Suns shooter open, which they capitalized on (Suns have some pretty good shooters! Kept the game close every time the Spurs took the lead to 10+pts), but overall Austin was in control for most of the game and didn't take the foot off the gas at the end, which was honestly a refreshing sight. Oh! I forgot about Eubanks! He had 20 points but I didn't think he stood out too much, he got postered lol but otherwise had a few gorilla dunks and easy layups here and there. Fun game to have watched.

GAustex
02-08-2020, 12:00 AM
Too bad Keldon can’t shoot from distance

BackHome
02-08-2020, 12:39 AM
That’s why we have Chip.

ace3g
02-09-2020, 02:09 AM
Real Spurs have a game today at 4pm

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200209/SCWAUS/

Obi Juan Kenobi
02-09-2020, 03:20 AM
That’s why we have Chip.

Nephew couldn't shoot early on either...KJ's shooting will be fine...

Obi Juan Kenobi
02-09-2020, 03:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/521377855016820736/IBu4Pfoh_400x400.jpeg


Side note this was the Dopest underground bootleg shirt being sold in 2007 and 2005... FUCK ME for not stopping at the Valero at Babcok and Ekhert and buying 100...

Ah yes Obi Wan Ginobili!!! And I hear you that shirt is dope AF!!!

B1gduff
02-09-2020, 01:01 PM
Having watched Keldon play, i'm starting to wonder if he's more of a 2 rather than a 3. we are full at the Sg position. While we truly do lack a true Sf.

i was wondering if we had the option to trade keldon for a guy like Saddiq bey.

Or a tyler bey.

Obi Juan Kenobi
02-09-2020, 05:48 PM
That was back when we had the best fan base,


I haven't lived in San Antonio for a minute but I was visiting my sister a few weeks ago and after a movie we went to that Wing Daddy's by De Zavala.
TV WALLs
dozens of 4k TV's

and the Spurs game WASNT on and I was the only one wearing any gear. My beloved Spurs Hockey Jersey.

I had to request it be put on.

WTF?

I blame CALIFORNIANS who have invaded us along IH35, Where ever there is an IN and OUT there be CALIFORNIANS...

Tons of LAKERS Gear


This is what happens when your fanbase has been NEGED by Pop for at least 15 years and his shit philosophy.

Such a shame to hear...I've never had the pleasure of living in San Antonio although I am looking into buying a condo there for the weekends...but that's just sad to hear that San Antonio has been inundated with Lakers fans...

Dejounte
02-09-2020, 06:15 PM
https://youtu.be/uVEFJw-RE8Y

Its a great point the announcer made that Luka can attack in transition like that. Not many bigs can--you wont see Aldridge going at that speed with a breakaway steal. Its going to be deadly with Luka.

GAustex
02-09-2020, 07:38 PM
If Keldon could only make a 3...

See if Drew bites...

slick'81
02-09-2020, 11:13 PM
Metu playing himself onto the active roster fulltime

Frenchfred
02-10-2020, 12:49 AM
So maybe the patfo is not that bad at drafting players.

ceperez
02-10-2020, 06:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chimezie+metu

You know that as Metu gets stronger and bulkier, he's going to be a pretty decent player. Spurs should re-sign him.

Sugus
02-10-2020, 10:09 AM
Can't wait for the Spurs to be mathematically obliterated from the PO race to force Pop into playing the youngins on the main roster. Keldon and Metu at the least look almost there. Should be an interesting roster next season...

Harry Callahan
02-10-2020, 10:59 AM
Such a shame to hear...I've never had the pleasure of living in San Antonio although I am looking into buying a condo there for the weekends...but that's just sad to hear that San Antonio has been inundated with Lakers fans...

Many of the Laker fans were already in SA, but crawled under rocks for a decade. The west coast migration is real and unfortunate in many cases.

emanueldavidginobili
02-10-2020, 12:32 PM
Last six games Metu has played for Austin he's went 11/15 from three point range.

RC_Drunkford
02-10-2020, 02:04 PM
Can't wait for the Spurs to be mathematically obliterated from the PO race to force Pop into playing the youngins on the main roster. Keldon and Metu at the least look almost there. Should be an interesting roster next season...

you can't possibly think Pop will change his rotations. He will go with the same starting line up until the season is finished no matter what. They could be 0-81 doesn't matter

Sugus
02-10-2020, 06:40 PM
you can't possibly think Pop will change his rotations. He will go with the same starting line up until the season is finished no matter what. They could be 0-81 doesn't matter

I think (HOPE) that there will be some kind of directive from above for change once the Spurs are actually eliminated mathematically. We know Pop is absolutely hell-bent on his last bit of glory and there's "still chances" to get the 8th seed as of now (obviously impossible as we know, but the case could be made especially by Pop's delusional mind). It's a win/win situation though - if Pop gives up, we get a lot of games of seeing what the youth can do. If Pop flexes his powers and continues playing LMA, DD, Forbes 30m+ a night after we're eliminated, it'll be a very bright bad spot and hopefully the drip of water that overfills the glass and leads to his departure.


To be honest it's hard to be optimistic in this scenario, but a man can dream....

venitian navigator
02-11-2020, 04:26 AM
...any chance that when all hopes for the 8 seed are gone (probably as soon as the RRD ends, if its an 0-8 run)Pop let the reins of the team to Becky or Timmy and start planning about the olympic summer? Frankly I think that for a man of his age, and that suffered all he suffered recently, the double goal (Spurs and Olympic team) on his mind for all the course of this season could have been too much to stand....

exstatic
02-11-2020, 07:37 AM
I think (HOPE) that there will be some kind of directive from above for change once the Spurs are actually eliminated mathematically. We know Pop is absolutely hell-bent on his last bit of glory and there's "still chances" to get the 8th seed as of now (obviously impossible as we know, but the case could be made especially by Pop's delusional mind). It's a win/win situation though - if Pop gives up, we get a lot of games of seeing what the youth can do. If Pop flexes his powers and continues playing LMA, DD, Forbes 30m+ a night after we're eliminated, it'll be a very bright bad spot and hopefully the drip of water that overfills the glass and leads to his departure.
To be honest it's hard to be optimistic in this scenario, but a man can dream...

Directive from above? Pop is president of basketball operations for SSE. He works only for the younger Holts, and I doubt they’re wanting to be seen forcing him out. There won’t be any miracle or breakthrough this year.

ZeusWillJudge
02-11-2020, 10:42 PM
I know you guys love it when I give updates on non-Spurs players. But tonight Walt Lemon had 27 points, 9 AST, 8 RB, and 3 STL. I still say it would be nice to have a backup PG who is really a PG - even if he's third on the list. But Austin recently brought in a PG who has no chance of making it to SA. So if you want a point to distribute to the young guys, why not bring in a good one?

ace3g
02-11-2020, 10:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qix6AyxqKYU

exstatic
02-12-2020, 07:39 AM
I know you guys love it when I give updates on non-Spurs players. But tonight Walt Lemon had 27 points, 9 AST, 8 RB, and 3 STL. I still say it would be nice to have a backup PG who is really a PG - even if he's third on the list. But Austin recently brought in a PG who has no chance of making it to SA. So if you want a point to distribute to the young guys, why not bring in a good one?

Almost all gleague players will never play in the NBA, not even for a cup of coffee. The ASpurs signed a number of gleaguers because their PG play was atrocious last year, and they wanted at least competent gleague ball distribution.

ZeusWillJudge
02-12-2020, 08:38 AM
Almost all gleague players will never play in the NBA, not even for a cup of coffee. The ASpurs signed a number of gleaguers because their PG play was atrocious last year, and they wanted at least competent gleague ball distribution.


Wait... so you're saying that G-League players don't all make it to the NBA? And teams sign players to get better at that position? How long has all this been going on?

exstatic
02-12-2020, 12:38 PM
I know you guys love it when I give updates on non-Spurs players. But tonight Walt Lemon had 27 points, 9 AST, 8 RB, and 3 STL. I still say it would be nice to have a backup PG who is really a PG - even if he's third on the list. But Austin recently brought in a PG who has no chance of making it to SA. So if you want a point to distribute to the young guys, why not bring in a good one?

You acted surprised by that.

They HAVE brought in far better PGs than they had last year, when they were basically fucked when Ledbetter went foreign and left them with nothing.

ace3g
02-13-2020, 07:05 PM
Spurs tonight @ 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200213/SXFAUS/

barakz21
02-13-2020, 07:15 PM
Spurs tonight @ 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200213/SXFAUS/

is that cst?

ace3g
02-13-2020, 07:16 PM
is that cst?

Yes

FkLA
02-13-2020, 08:33 PM
Luka and KJ ain't even starting

https://media.giphy.com/media/xL7PDV9frcudO/giphy.gif

emanueldavidginobili
02-13-2020, 08:41 PM
Luka and KJ ain't even starting

https://media.giphy.com/media/xL7PDV9frcudO/giphy.gif

They’re both not playing along with Metu.

ace3g
02-13-2020, 09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1228141647432757253

Ocotillo
02-13-2020, 09:34 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1228141647432757253

I wonder why that is even a rule?

GAustex
02-13-2020, 09:49 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1228141647432757253
I wonder if this was planned or more likely poop’s led crack front office screwed this up.

exstatic
02-14-2020, 07:57 AM
I wonder if this was planned or more likely poop’s led crack front office screwed this up.

Yes, because Pop is 100% responsible for the negotiation of the collective bargaining agreement.


Dumbfuck.

Sugus
02-14-2020, 02:52 PM
Yes, because Pop is 100% responsible for the negotiation of the collective bargaining agreement.


Dumbfuck.

It was obviously Pop's fault giving KJ that damned NBA contract... That senile fuck, getting worse every day smh

Russ
02-14-2020, 10:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chimezie+metu

You know that as Metu gets stronger and bulkier, he's going to be a pretty decent player. Spurs should re-sign him.

Metu's effective and could be a real contributor.

That said, this dude has the slowest shooting motion in the modern era of basketball.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
02-15-2020, 05:59 PM
Convince me I'm wrong or being paranoid but I feel like Daryl Morey is gonna finagle him out of PATFO for a sack magic beans
He is perfect for their system.....

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YCRFKJCwn_w/Vo6GC1D-stI/AAAAAAAAB5U/v8HkuqNwtto/s640/Image21.jpgLMAO, the story you just used for your analogy resulted in the kid and his mother having great wealth you dumbass.

ace3g
02-20-2020, 07:09 PM
Spurs play tonight at 7:30

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200220/SBLAUS/

ace3g
02-20-2020, 07:26 PM
Wonder if any of the 3 contract guys, Chimezie, Kedlon, or Luka are back? Probably because the NBA is back right now, games started today.

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1230539783157485569

ace3g
02-20-2020, 08:55 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1230672154540285959

ace3g
02-20-2020, 10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1230693518017994752

CGD
02-20-2020, 10:25 PM
I hope they give these kids more run On the big boy said as the spurs get further away from playoff contention.

emanueldavidginobili
02-20-2020, 10:39 PM
Man I’m loving Spoon. He’s going to make it in this league not a doubt in my mind.

Manong Ginobili
02-20-2020, 10:56 PM
Another good game from Tall Luka

ace3g
02-20-2020, 11:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv79mz_EXgg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kp_pyr8Ak

ceperez
02-21-2020, 09:56 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aukPe52.jpg

AUSTIN SPURS


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Luka
Samanic
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629677/)19
SF
29
6-12
1-5
2-4
12
1
11
12
4
2
0
5
1
1
17


Keldon
Johnson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629640/)0
PF
26
6-11
2-5
3-6
-13
3
3
6
1
4
1
2
1
0
17


Chimezie
Metu
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629002/)7
C
25
5-12
1-3
1-1
-10
2
7
9
2
2
0
5
0
0
12


Quinndary
Weatherspoon
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629683/)15
SG
35
11-18
6-11
0-2
-14
1
2
3
7
3
2
4
1
0
28


Galen
Robinson Jr.
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629955/)25
PG
30
2-3
1-1
2-2
-5
0
1
1
7
4
0
1
0
0
9


Dedric
Lawson
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629664/)5

18
1-5
0-3
0-0
-8
0
1
1
1
4
0
0
0
1
2


Tevin
King
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629886/)11

8
0-0
0-0
1-1
2
0
1
1
2
5
0
1
1
0
2


Drew
Eubanks
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629234/)14

22
6-9
0-0
3-5
13
3
5
8
0
4
1
4
0
0
16


Daulton
Hommes
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629756/)34

26
8-11
3-5
2-4
19
4
3
7
3
3
2
3
0
0
23


Jeff
Ledbetter
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626586/)2

17
1-4
0-3
0-0
24
0
2
2
5
4
2
2
0
0
2


Jordan
Green
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1626999/)30



Kavion
Pippen
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629800/)33



Kenny
Williams
(https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1629953/)24



TOTAL
-
-
46-85
14-36
14-25
-
14
36
50
32
35
8
27
4
2
128


PERCENTAGES

54%
39%
56%












Wetherspoon!!!!! 6-11 on 3s. 7 assist! Forbes replacement!!!!!!

look_at_g_shred
02-21-2020, 09:57 AM
Q looking REAL nice. He's so smooth with the ball.

look_at_g_shred
02-21-2020, 10:00 AM
I just noticed they have KJ listed as a PF....lol

Dejounte
02-21-2020, 10:09 AM
I cant wait for Q to replace Forbes.

pad300
02-21-2020, 11:02 AM
Something is wrong with Sammanich's numbers in the boxscore. 17 pts <> 1 * 3 { 1 of 5 3 ptrs}+ 2*1 { 2of 4 FTA} + 5*2 {6-1} of {12-5} 2ptrs) *2 = 15 ?

toki9
02-21-2020, 06:05 PM
Something is wrong with Sammanich's numbers in the boxscore. 17 pts <> 1 * 3 { 1 of 5 3 ptrs}+ 2*1 { 2of 4 FTA} + 5*2 {6-1} of {12-5} 2ptrs) *2 = 15 ?

"Under the new experimental NBA G League rule, one free throw worth one, two or three points will be awarded in the event of any foul that would typically result in one, two or three free throws being shot under standard NBA rules. The experimental free throw rule will not apply during the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or the entirety of any overtime period."

ismael-robert
02-21-2020, 07:29 PM
Man I’m loving Spoon. He’s going to make it in this league not a doubt in my mind.

I was pretty sure u loved getting spooned

ace3g
02-25-2020, 07:40 PM
Spurs playing right now.

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200225/AUSSXF/

ace3g
02-25-2020, 09:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpbkWza7Rzk

look_at_g_shred
02-25-2020, 11:35 PM
Baby Russ

RC_Drunkford
02-26-2020, 02:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpbkWza7Rzk

this is what I expect Keldon Johnson to develop in. Once his 3 is falling consistently he will work on all the midrange scoring moves that nephew used to add when he was here

ace3g
02-27-2020, 07:45 PM
Spurs play tonight @ 9 CST

ace3g
02-27-2020, 10:34 PM
Link to gamecast

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20200227/AUSACC/

look_at_g_shred
02-28-2020, 09:27 AM
I'm really loving the way Q plays man i'm telling you.

GAustex
02-28-2020, 09:27 AM
It was practically an EMPTY GYM... in the INLAND EMPIRE..... worst I've seen watching the G league this year. The South Bay Lakers Play in basically a Training facility with comedy club seating but this was a full on arena.

I remember the CBA (Continental Basketball Association) I don't know if it was a cultural difference if Era's but those games seemed more fun and the local populous seemed to support those team more. Then again they weren't located in markets with Major League Sports or strong College programs.
Coronavirus already stunting attendance??

ChumpDumper
02-28-2020, 05:28 PM
It was practically an EMPTY GYM... in the INLAND EMPIRE..... worst I've seen watching the G league this year. The South Bay Lakers Play in basically a Training facility with comedy club seating but this was a full on arena.

I remember the CBA (Continental Basketball Association) I don't know if it was a cultural difference if Era's but those games seemed more fun and the local populous seemed to support those team more. Then again they weren't located in markets with Major League Sports or strong College programs.Ironically, the Lakers GLeague team was originally going to play in that arena before they came up with the idea of the training facility. 2000-2500 seems to be the best size arena for most teams, but some get deals on oversized, underutilized spaces like OKC.

ace3g
02-29-2020, 12:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2-U2-LmA0I

exstatic
02-29-2020, 07:45 AM
Right back where he belongs...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2-U2-LmA0I

GAustex
02-29-2020, 07:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2-U2-LmA0I
Simmons fought hard against them Zaza led warriors when ol #2 went down.

Harry Callahan
02-29-2020, 07:56 AM
Simmons was a legit NBA bench guy when the Spurs developed him three and four years ago. Now out of the league? I did not know that JS is now hanging on. My NBA viewership has diminished to just the Spurs on NBALP when the spirit moves me.

Jonathon hopefully saved his NBA money - I think he had a few months to feed.

EasyMoney
02-29-2020, 08:32 AM
Simmons in the g league? Bring him home SA. far better than the trash Bryn provides

Chinook
02-29-2020, 09:37 AM
Simmons in the g league? Bring him home SA. far better than the trash Bryn provides

Nah. Legit, Forbes is a good deal better than Simmons. People forget how bad of a player he was and is.

Prime BEEF
02-29-2020, 12:33 PM
Nah. Legit, Forbes is a good deal better than Simmons. People forget how bad of a player he was and is.
Simmons is better than Forbes.

Chinook
02-29-2020, 01:32 PM
Simmons is better than Forbes.

Nah. Literally, the only thing that's keeping Simmons from being one of the very worst players in the NBA is that he's no longer in the NBA.

jjktkk
02-29-2020, 01:45 PM
Simmons is better than Forbes.

Don't quit your day job.

ZeusWillJudge
02-29-2020, 01:53 PM
Nah. Legit, Forbes is a good deal better than Simmons...

… at shooting 3-pointers. Forbes is still one of the 3-4 worst defenders in the entire league, without any doubt. Nobody drew up plays specifically to run at Simmons, like they're doing with Forbes. It's half the game.

Simmons was a marginal role player. He got injured in Orlando, and was never the same. But
he was far from being one of the worst players in the NBA.

emanueldavidginobili
02-29-2020, 02:10 PM
… at shooting 3-pointers. Forbes is still one of the 3-4 worst defenders in the entire league, without any doubt. Nobody drew up plays specifically to run at Simmons, like they're doing with Forbes. It's half the game.

Simmons was a marginal role player. He got injured in Orlando, and was never the same. But
he was far from being one of the worst players in the NBA.

Exactly and no one called his number on offense either like the Spurs do now for Forbes. He really played well against that series against the Rockets while defending Harden and also scoring, shit he even had a solid series against GS in the WCF. I can’t even begin to imagine Forbes in that series against that GS team.

Truth4sale$
02-29-2020, 02:14 PM
There are currently very good players, I would like the Spurs to give a chance from their own Gleague to see if they can be keepers.Guys like DAULTON hommes, who cant shoot, Lawson a undersized big, who can shoot. Gotta see what Simmons can still do before reaching out to him. He was a solid rotational player who thought he was more than what he is. A rotational player-at best!. He can defend, and attack the basket and finish, more than Forbes, DeRozan and maybe even Dejounte. Unfortunately Simmons had a weak 3pt shot, and average ball handling

exstatic
02-29-2020, 04:11 PM
Simmons was a legit NBA bench guy when the Spurs developed him three and four years ago. Now out of the league? I did not know that JS is now hanging on. My NBA viewership has diminished to just the Spurs on NBALP when the spirit moves me.

Jonathon hopefully saved his NBA money - I think he had a few months to feed.

System player who worked best in a narrow, tightly defined role. When he went elsewhere, and was allowed to freelance, he fell on his face, and is now out of the league. Oh, and if he was such boyz with Deuce, why is he in the gleague now, and not on the Clippers bench?

itzsoweezee
02-29-2020, 08:31 PM
Nah. Literally, the only thing that's keeping Simmons from being one of the very worst players in the NBA is that he's no longer in the NBA.

And the only thing keeping Forbes in the NBA is Gregg Popovich. You don't seriously think he'd make a roster anywhere else do you?

RC_Drunkford
02-29-2020, 11:06 PM
Why y’all arguing with Chinook who still thinks Pau Gasol is better than Jakob Poeltl :lmao

Collins21
02-29-2020, 11:16 PM
Why y’all arguing with Chinook who still thinks Pau Gasol is better than Jakob Poeltl :lmao

Yeah that was pretty bad lol. However he's right both Simmons and bad but it's like trying to decipher between garbage and rubbish. Simmons is garbage and Forbes is rubbish which makes him a little better lol.

ace3g
03-01-2020, 01:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8L4jqrEENQ

Chinook
03-01-2020, 01:39 AM
Why y’all arguing with Chinook who still thinks Pau Gasol is better than Jakob Poeltl :lmao

Pau's not even playing anymore. But yes, his last legit healthy season was still better than any season Poeltl has ever had.

Chinook
03-01-2020, 01:51 AM
And the only thing keeping Forbes in the NBA is Gregg Popovich. You don't seriously think he'd make a roster anywhere else do you?

Of course he would. I'd argue that he'd straight-up be a better player if he had a coach who didn't try to make him a starter and have him trying to space for a bunch of reluctant/incapable shooters. I don't want Forbes back on the team, but he still has a marketable skill-set with Simmons never had.

Jon's only legit positive was that he could guard small-ball fours. That allowed for a Green, Simmons, Leonard trio to switch around on GS without worrying about Draymond backing them down. We never got to see if it would have worked but that was a real positive that Simmons could have had. What we actually got in that GS series was an inefficient chucker whose team played worse when he was on the floor. He wasn't the worst player on the team for the Spurs in that series, but he was a good sight worse than people on here argue he was.

RC_Drunkford
03-01-2020, 02:21 AM
Pau's not even playing anymore. But yes, his last legit healthy season was still better than any season Poeltl has ever had.

that's not what you said prior, don't try to change up your statement now. You said Pau is still better than Poeltl not too long ago and you said Pau was better than Poeltl last season

Chinook
03-01-2020, 02:36 AM
that's not what you said prior, don't try to change up your statement now. You said Pau is still better than Poeltl not too long ago and you said Pau was better than Poeltl last season

I never said that Pau IS better than Poeltl right now. Pau is literally not even playing anymore and wasn't the last time we talked about this. He hasn't officially retired, but he can't stay healthy anymore and was waived by Portland. When he broke his foot last year, it ended his career. I did not know that he was never going to recover back when the board had its argument last year. The games prior to him getting hurt, he averaged 7/6/3 in less than 18mpg and on 52-percent shooting from the floor and 57 percent from three. In the games after he came back, he averaged 3/4/1 in almost 10 minutes while shooting 42 percent and 33 percent from three. He went from being an extremely productive backup for LMA (albeit with a legit exploitable lack of mobility) to a guy unable to play at all.

I was wrong in wanting Gasol to play over Poeltl once he got back from injury. But I was wrong because Pau got worse, not because Poeltl had always been the better option that year like many folks argued. As I said, a healthy Gasol, even being old and lacking mobility was still a better player than Poeltl has been so far in his career. Jakob has some things going for him that make him a good player worth holding onto. But he also has limitations that detract from his effectiveness. I think people overlook those limitations because he's young and they assume he'll find a way to fix them. But I don't see any reason to believe that yet. Poeltl has to be judged for who he is now, and that player isn't better than Pau was before he had his career-ending injury.

jjktkk
03-01-2020, 02:07 PM
https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Jonathon-Simmons.jpg

They gave 50 million to Patty for 4 years, gave 48 million to Gasol for 3 offered Simmons 3 a 1.9 he signed for 20 fro 3 with only 14.3 guaranteed.

Now Poop is going to give his lil' bryn and offer equal too or greater than mini patty mills.

FACTS.

Simmons was a good soldier in pops lil army but it wasn't the soldier he wanted apparently.


https://s.hdnux.com/photos/61/16/43/12904648/29/360x0.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XG60AZc6PU
Poop FOR SURE wont mistake Lil Bryn for some other Black guy, even our "esteemed" Announcer Team of LAND and Washed SEAN thought he was Simmons

Simmons got bounced from 3 different NBA teams. Try to be smarter smarter and chose a legitimate NBA player if you seriously want to have a solid take on here.

jjktkk
03-01-2020, 04:46 PM
Tell me what you think my "take is" genius? Its obvious to me its over your head even as simple an plane it was. Ok tell me what you think it was in this post?That you're take is horrible. Simmons is out of the league dipshit. Give me a list of teams beating down Simmon's door to sign him. I'll wait.[/QUOTE]


I think you're of the mind that Bryn Forbes isn't on equal footing as simmons, I think you don't realize that bryn is gonna get the money Simmons didn't get. Simmons did get paid in Orlando, PATFO decided to let him walk. Seems like the right move, but do go on about Simmons being on equal footing as Forbes.[/QUOTE]
I think you don't realize that lil patty and Pau are grossly overpaid(still paying for Gasol). So tell me you think my take was.See above.

ZeusWillJudge
03-03-2020, 11:54 AM
Pau's not even playing anymore. But yes, his last legit healthy season was still better than any season Poeltl has ever had.


LMAO. Pau's "last legit healthy season" was 15-16, in Chicago, and the Bulls were paying him like $7.5M per. Then the Spurs stepped in and gave him $15.5M to come and die here. And that's not even talking about the $3/48 they gave him after it was clear that he was gassed, or that the Spurs are paying Gasol more THIS YEAR than they are paying Poeltl.

Of course Pau was better than Poeltl, once upon a time. The question is (or should be) whether Poeltl is going to be worth 3/$24M, which is exactly half of what Pop handed the corpse of Pau in that last contract.

ZeusWillJudge
03-03-2020, 12:01 PM
Simmons did get paid in Orlando, PATFO decided to let him walk. Seems like the right move, but do go on about Simmons being on equal footing as Forbes.


Forbes is one of the worst defenders in the entire league. Arguably THE worst defender in the league. Giving him starter minutes is like selling shit below cost, and trying to make up for it in volume. It's a losing proposition.

Right now, right this minute, Forbes only does one thing better than Simmons. He shoots 3-pointers. And on any night that Forbes' 3P shot isn't falling, he's a G-League player, just like Simmons is now.

Chinook
03-03-2020, 12:21 PM
LMAO. Pau's "last legit healthy season" was 15-16, in Chicago, and the Bulls were paying him like $7.5M per. Then the Spurs stepped in and gave him $15.5M to come and die here. And that's not even talking about the $3/48 they gave him after it was clear that he was gassed, or that the Spurs are paying Gasol more THIS YEAR than they are paying Poeltl.

Of course Pau was better than Poeltl, once upon a time. The question is (or should be) whether Poeltl is going to be worth 3/$24M, which is exactly half of what Pop handed the corpse of Pau in that last contract.

Nah, Pau was healthy just two seasons ago. That was the first year of that second Spurs contract. The rest of that post talked about how he was actually playing well before he got hurt. Pau wasn't just a good player - - he's a legit HoFer, and even as an old man, he was good.

NBA contracts aren't linear. What Pau got has nothing to do with Poeltl now. People wasted way too much energy griping over his APY and how it fit into the cap picture. He was essentially the Rudy Gay of a couple of years ago, with the big difference being that he actually performed well during the first year of his new contract. In both cases, their APYs didn't affect the cap negatively, but the Spurs learned from Pau not to push Gay's compensation onto a third year for no reason.

TD 21
03-03-2020, 05:44 PM
If this isn't the scenario to call up and take a look at Metu, then one doesn't exist; so why was he given a roster spot for 2 seasons to begin with? What did they expect from him and why has random filler like Eubanks inexplicably been ahead of him since the jump?

He's probably nothing, but despite the questionable feel, he's athletic and relatively skilled. Might as well take a look now and be certain of what they have before potentially cutting the chord in the off season.

People keep being surprised when teams like the Heat find diamonds in the rough, but the thing is, they actually give them an opportunity (even when healthy, ahead of established, big contract types).

exstatic
03-03-2020, 05:49 PM
If this isn't the scenario to call up and take a look at Metu, then one doesn't exist; so why was he given a roster spot for 2 seasons to begin with? What did they expect from him and why has random filler like Eubanks inexplicably been ahead of him since the jump?

He's probably nothing, but despite the questionable feel, he's athletic and relatively skilled. Might as well take a look now and be certain of what they have before potentially cutting the chord in the off season.

People keep being surprised when teams like the Heat find diamonds in the rough, but the thing is, they actually give them an opportunity (even when healthy, ahead of established, big contract types).


Metu is not a center, or anyone that will ever spell or replace either LMA or Poeltl. He's just not big enough. If you understand that, you understand why Eubanks got the burn. He's a big strong bruiser who can bang with legit NBA bigs.

Metu's role is much more like Lyles, and everyone saw how Trey struggled to body up on the Indy bigs.

TD 21
03-03-2020, 05:57 PM
Metu is not a center, or anyone that will ever spell or replace either LMA or Poeltl. He's just not big enough. If you understand that, you understand why Eubanks got the burn. He's a big strong bruiser who can bang with legit NBA bigs.

Metu's role is much more like Lyles, and everyone saw how Trey struggled to body up on the Indy bigs.

In today's NBA, he'll have to be a matchup dependant one in order to stick and tonight is the ideal matchup for him. They don't have a post up brute or a monstrous rim runner and let's face it, despite being stouter, Eubanks doesn't have the size to contain those types either.

exstatic
03-03-2020, 06:01 PM
In today's NBA, he'll have to be a matchup dependant one in order to stick and tonight is the ideal matchup for him. They don't have a post up brute or a monstrous rim runner and let's face it, despite being stouter, Eubanks doesn't have the size to contain those types either.

Yeah, but last night wasn't, and that was your beef, originally. Lyles is bigger than Metu, and pretty much got rag dolled last night. When Eubanks got pulled was when Sabonis went off.

TD 21
03-03-2020, 06:10 PM
Yeah, but last night wasn't, and that was your beef, originally. Lyles is bigger than Metu, and pretty much got rag dolled last night. When Eubanks got pulled was when Sabonis went off.

It still was, so long as he was kept away from Sabonis (whose just small enough for Eubanks to get by on).

The second either Aldridge or Poeltl is unavailable, him and Eubanks should both be called up for depth purposes. The fact that both aren't, he still wasn't and we're nearing 2 full years, doesn't make any sense, no matter how much you try to spin it to protect your master.

exstatic
03-03-2020, 06:27 PM
It still was, so long as he was kept away from Sabonis (whose just small enough for Eubanks to get by on).

The second either Aldridge or Poeltl is unavailable, him and Eubanks should both be called up for depth purposes. The fact that both aren't, he still wasn't and we're nearing 2 full years, doesn't make any sense, no matter how much you try to spin it to protect your master.

I'm not protecting anyone. If you can't see that Metu was completely unsuited to the matchup last night, I can't help you.

TD 21
03-03-2020, 06:34 PM
I'm not protecting anyone. If you can't see that Metu was completely unsuited to the matchup last night, I can't help you.

Again, it's not about that. Him and Eubanks should both be automatically recalled when one of Aldridge or Poeltl is out, let alone both. Whichever should play in a given game should be based on obvious factors.

bluebellmaniac
03-03-2020, 07:27 PM
Again, it's not about that. Him and Eubanks should both be automatically recalled when one of Aldridge or Poeltl is out, let alone both. Whichever should play in a given game should be based on obvious factors.

WTF???

SAGirl
03-03-2020, 08:03 PM
This season is so boring that fans are arguing about the ghosts of seasons past.

jjktkk
03-03-2020, 09:03 PM
Forbes is one of the worst defenders in the entire league. Arguably THE worst defender in the league. Giving him starter minutes is like selling shit below cost, and trying to make up for it in volume. It's a losing proposition.

Right now, right this minute, Forbes only does one thing better than Simmons. He shoots 3-pointers. And on any night that Forbes' 3P shot isn't falling, he's a G-League player, just like Simmons is now.

I agree Forbes is not a starter, but guys like Forbes, who can drain the 3, will always have a job in the NBA.

talkspurs
03-04-2020, 08:24 AM
I dont understand why Metu was not called up to play with Potel and Aldridge out. Even he did not get min he should have been up to play. I think he also is a better blocker then Drew.

duncan2150
03-04-2020, 09:27 AM
I dont understand why Metu was not called up to play with Potel and Aldridge out. Even he did not get min he should have been up to play. I think he also is a better blocker then Drew.

+ 1

Plus i think he is a better prospect than Eubanks.

BackHome
03-04-2020, 05:07 PM
If Eubanks was two inches taller he would be a good backup center I think he lost some weight and worked on his outside shooting me thinking they trying him at PF?

ZeusWillJudge
03-04-2020, 08:48 PM
Nah, Pau was healthy just two seasons ago. That was the first year of that second Spurs contract. The rest of that post talked about how he was actually playing well before he got hurt. Pau wasn't just a good player - - he's a legit HoFer, and even as an old man, he was good.

He was essentially the Rudy Gay of a couple of years ago, with the big difference being that he actually performed well during the first year of his new contract. In both cases, their APYs didn't affect the cap negatively, but the Spurs learned from Pau not to push Gay's compensation onto a third year for no reason.


LOL. Pau's first year in SA was the worst of his career, by a LOT. Worse than the year he missed 33 games. At least Rudy had the excuse of coming off a horrible injury.

Saying that the Spurs learned from the shitty contact they gave Pau is saying that it was a shitty contract. You can't have it both ways.

Chinook
03-04-2020, 09:36 PM
LOL. Pau's first year in SA was the worst of his career, by a LOT. Worse than the year he missed 33 games. At least Rudy had the excuse of coming off a horrible injury.

Two years ago was his second year with the team, not his first. That second year, he was second in the league in 3P% and had really good impact stats.


Saying that the Spurs learned from the shitty contact they gave Pau is saying that it was a shitty contract. You can't have it both ways.

What made Pau's contract shitty was not its APY. That's most of the point I've been making on Pau for more than a year. Giving Pau even $19 Million when you're over the cap but under the tax anyway doesn't really matter. Designing a contract to have $6.7 Million in dead money matters a lot. They learned with Gay because they did not give him a partially guaranteed year. Just like with Pau, Gay's APY is irrelevant. I don't blame the Spurs for his contract at all. It sucks that the dude fell apart, but they managed to keep a guy who had been really good for them while maintaining 2021 as a rebuilding off-season. It's a much better deal than the one Gasol signed.

Carroll's deal on the other hand was terrible, even if DMC had been a decent player. Partial guarantees are just bad practice, especially when they are as large as the Spurs have had recently.

ceperez
03-05-2020, 12:08 PM
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1235049829937618945

He's got good size, shooting from, athleticism and footwork. Just needs to get stronger. I hope Spurs sign him an extension.

palangi
03-06-2020, 10:51 PM
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1233088629297340416

Best post you've ever made

palangi
03-06-2020, 10:53 PM
more sebersa por favor

And then you go and ruin it

palangi
03-06-2020, 10:58 PM
So are you going to keep responding with you mexicant attitude to my post for mexicant San Antonio reasons ?

OK welcome to the Block Party es say

And continue to ruin it. Right back into the shitter all your ideas come from

Chinook
03-09-2020, 01:01 AM
Cause he sucks. Wasn't even a hard question

duncan2150
03-09-2020, 03:00 AM
Cause he sucks. Wasn't even a hard question

But eubanks rules ?

That's not understable to see him in g league when you have nobody inside.

Imo He is a way better prospect than eubanks.... Strange decision by the PATFO.

EasyMoney
03-09-2020, 03:36 AM
Aldridge is out. Poeltl is out. Common sense would tell you to call him up in case trey and drew cant get it done in the C position. You need all hands on deck, but nope.

Chinook
03-09-2020, 07:45 AM
But eubanks rules ?

That's not understable to see him in g league when you have nobody inside.

Imo He is a way better prospect than eubanks.... Strange decision by the PATFO.

Eubanks is a lot better than Metu, yes. Lyles is way better. Gay playing the five is better. Signing a dude off the streets would be better. He's that bad. I'd rather play Samanic at the five.

duncan2150
03-09-2020, 12:03 PM
Eubanks is a lot better than Metu, yes. Lyles is way better. Gay playing the five is better. Signing a dude off the streets would be better. He's that bad. I'd rather play Samanic at the five.

That's your point of view, not mine and by far.

Chinook
03-09-2020, 12:24 PM
That's your point of view, not mine and by far.

...okay. That's fine. But there's a difference between believing in him and not understanding why some don't seem to. Chim has everything going for him to play independent of his performance. That he's not being called up anymore says something about how the staff views him, because he was a regular part of the active roster earlier in the year.

exstatic
03-09-2020, 12:27 PM
That's your point of view, not mine and by far.

Metu is a stick. Not even in Today's NBA, and certainly not against the likes of Valanciunas or DeAndre or Drummond, recent opponents with LMA and Poeltl out, can he play center. He'd just get fucking rag dolled.

jjktkk
03-09-2020, 01:05 PM
But eubanks rules ?

That's not understable to see him in g league when you have nobody inside.

Imo He is a way better prospect than eubanks.... Strange decision by the PATFO.
Metu is no 5 by any NBA measurable. He just doesn't have the girth to play center. He's more of a stretch 4. That said, he should be getting some sort of minutes with the parent club.

duncan2150
03-09-2020, 01:08 PM
Metu is no 5 by any NBA measurable. He just doesn't have the girth to play center. He's more of a stretch 4. That said, he should be getting some sort of minutes with the parent club.

I agree.

look_at_g_shred
03-10-2020, 09:09 AM
Should be getting all of Gay's minutes imho

duncan2150
03-10-2020, 09:36 AM
...okay. That's fine. But there's a difference between believing in him and not understanding why some don't seem to. Chim has everything going for him to play independent of his performance. That he's not being called up anymore says something about how the staff views him, because he was a regular part of the active roster earlier in the year.

i understand your point, what i don't understand is why he didn't get some minutes when you don't have nobody at the four or the five, even with demar or gay playing the four.


Metu is a stick. Not even in Today's NBA, and certainly not against the likes of Valanciunas or DeAndre or Drummond, recent opponents with LMA and Poeltl out, can he play center. He'd just get fucking rag dolled.

ok but actually we play gay at the five, i talk about the actual situation and i think it's better to have metu than gay at the five or eubanks. It's not that i don't like drew but i think he is limited.

palangi
03-10-2020, 10:10 AM
It's funny how many have talked about the changing if the game. How the back to ther hoop center is gone the way of the dinosaurs. It's a face up, shooting, athletic, open court game now. We get a guy that fits this perfectly and all of a sudden we need the old school guy again. Hell the rockets are playing with a 6'6"guy at center.
But let's be real. We all know why pop won't bring him up and play him....
:pop: "he dunks it way too much. A nice easy lay up is all I want"

exstatic
03-10-2020, 10:44 AM
ok but actually we play gay at the five, i talk about the actual situation and i think it's better to have metu than gay at the five or eubanks. It's not that i don't like drew but i think he is limited.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Metu and Gay are about the same height, 6'9", but Gay is much bigger and stronger. Eubanks is also stronger, and equipped to at least bang and be physical with Valaciunus, DeAndre, and Drummond. Metu is really like a 3.5, a combo forward, and is in NO WAY equipped to play center.

duncan2150
03-10-2020, 11:44 AM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Metu and Gay are about the same height, 6'9", but Gay is much bigger and stronger. Eubanks is also stronger, and equipped to at least bang and be physical with Valaciunus, DeAndre, and Drummond. Metu is really like a 3.5, a combo forward, and is in NO WAY equipped to play center.

i'm ok for the five, it's a detail but he is a inch taller than gay. But let play him a little bit at the four, he had some good games in g league and he will give us some athletism we need badly.

Chinook
03-10-2020, 01:12 PM
Would like to see SA lock Lawson down for the summer. Sogn him to a one-and-one with no guaranteed money next year, or promote Eubanks and get Lawson to take that two-way spot. I don't have tremendously high hopes for him in the NBA, but I liked him a lot going into his last year in college, and he's played well enough in Austin to warrant a bit more investment. They should have gone after Porter, but can't do anything about that now.