***** The Official 2014 Avante Football Thread *****

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

DUNCANownsKOBE (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=26386)

Bengals -5.5
Denver -12.5
49ers -7
Chargers +6

God dammit, 2 of those 4 were also picks I made.

[spurraider21]

God dammit, 2 of those 4 were also picks I made.
im sorry for your loss

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

im sorry for your loss

I thought I had 49ers -7 all but locked up with Marshall and Jefferey out, but now I predict Santonio Holmes having a record breaking game :cry

[spurraider21]

Avante 1-0 today so far

[spurraider21]

2-1 this week so far with SF to go...

:lol this dude straying from his "just pick the 5 power teams every week" strategy before he even tries it

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The "betting expert" will be bragging for a month over his first decent week in three years....

[jimbo]

I'll go slow....

For two years now and week one of 2014 we have seen this....157-64....using that system. It doesn't matter what the line is, what week it is, what month it is.....ya with me? You simply play...Den/Sea/Niners/Indy/Cinncy....each week. Just play those five ATS and they will end up around....55-32...at seasons end.

So do you think since it worked in both 2012 and 2013 it won't work in 2014?


Going to take the Steelers tonight straight up. I do think this Ray Rice situation was a big distraction and it is a short week...hmmm? Being the last 4 times they played they split, might as well take the team without the hassle. All 4 games decided by a combined...11 points.

:lol gambling addict veering from his unbeatable strategy

[spurraider21]

2-2 for the week

your best week in years. congrats

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol The "betting expert" will be bragging for a month over his first decent week in three years....

I wouldn't call having the same record as a monkey flinging shit at the wall a decent week :lol

[jimbo]

Tbh, I'll give him 3-3. He missed out on the Steelers, but I guess he hit on the Chargers?

But he also jinxed his own team, so I'll give him an :lol Avante

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

Ok the moment you've all been waiting for.

Week 2 ATS (always 110 to win a 100 unless I say otherwise)

Cinncy -5.5 (the .5 is there so there can be no push ok CN?)

Cinncy has been one of the top HF in the league recently, going.....8-3-1 vs the number. The Falcons on the road after the Saints.....haven't won ATS in over a decade.

Denver -12.5, last 4 meetings with KC....117-47, or 29-11.

Niners -7. in the Harbaugh era the Niners have never failed to cover a home opener. Avg score....31-22. Now add the fact they have covered vs Chicago the last 8 meetings. Chicago as a RD recently....3-6. Lost by 25 last time by the bay.

I don't like the number -6 in the Sea/SD game*** A good team coming off a loss at home getting points. I gotta....SD +6 With Mike McCoy the Chargers have gone....4-1...in that "spot". Been a long time since the Chargers went 0-2.

I need to see Indy one more week before pulling the trigger on them. How big a difference will the absense of Mathis make?


*** as we know the Seahawks played that Thursday night game, the Chargers on MNF. What does that mean ATS? Not much it's something like 9-7 for the fav, in that "spot", that's weak.

For all my little fans out there if you don't think a pick will hit tell me why ....BEFORE...the game ok? Give me a logical reason as to why you disagree. Remember.... if it hits right on the number it's not....YOU LOST YOU LOST.....hahaha!!!! It's known as a ...push...ok gang?

Funnier than hell watching......YOU LOST YOU LOST....over a push. YOU ARE 0-4...over a straight up pick, hahaha!!!! Calm down little people, ok?

:lmao 2-2 on the week
:lmao 2-6 on the season
:lmao .250 winning percentage
:lmao "Betting Expert"
:lmao "NFL Historian"
:lmao worse than a monkey flipping a coin
:lmao "but its only week....2. Sheesh, you can always tell the rookies"
:lmao 49ers
:lmao Kaepernick
:lmao 3rd season in a row that your picks are absolute dogshit

[AlexJones]

Avante continues to bet on retarded relevant trends, irrelevant historical trends & big spreads early in the season.

& seems like he's spreading the plague, more dumbasses are betting on these fat spreads.

[Clipper Nation]

I wouldn't call having the same record as a monkey flinging shit at the wall a decent week :lol
In fairness, that was IF he went 3-1.... in typical Old Faggot fashion, though, he got the rug pulled out from under him tonight :lol

[Clipper Nation]

So which "new system" is Old Faggot going to try next week? :lol

You could tell he was going to brag and talk shit if he went 3-1, but thanks to Kraep, it'll be "it's only week....TWO!!!" :lol

[rogues]

:lol

[Malik Hairston]

I still don't understand how a trend that began 5 years ago is relevant to betting on a completely different roster today, tbh:lol..

[spurraider21]

I still don't understand how a trend that began 5 years ago is relevant to betting on a completely different roster today, tbh:lol..
it isn't, avante is just a sucker. he'd get cleaned out if he ever played roulette with his mentality

[chunticakes]

it isn't, avante is just a sucker. he'd get cleaned out if he ever played roulette with his mentality

EXACTLY. he needs to take his "spots" and stick them up his ass.

[Malik Hairston]

Even the shittiest gambler will hit a hot stretch at some point, tbh..if you're betting that frequently, you're going to inevitably have a nice day/week or whatever..that makes it even more surreal that Avante hasn't had a good week in like 2 years of posting bets, the nigga can't even catch a few lucky breaks:lol..

[spurraider21]

^yep. last year in my ATS pool i was barely above .500 for the year but did win 2 weekly's along the way :lol

[Avante]

I still don't understand how a trend that began 5 years ago is relevant to betting on a completely different roster today, tbh:lol..

How many different rosters have the Lions and Browns had over the years? Neither has ever played in a Superbowl.

How many different rosters have the Steelers, Niners, Cowboys had, they have played in over 20 SB combined.

Hell, look at the Raiders in the eastern time zone, they haven't won there in over a decade. The Pats haven't lost the first two games of a season in over a decade. The Falcons haven't covered a spread on the road after a Saints game in over a decade. The Browns haven't won in Pitt in over a decade.

Hell yes you look at trends.

[Avante]

Even the shittiest gambler will hit a hot stretch at some point, tbh..if you're betting that frequently, you're going to inevitably have a nice day/week or whatever..that makes it even more surreal that Avante hasn't had a good week in like 2 years of posting bets, the nigga can't even catch a few lucky breaks:lol..

Two plays away from going 2-1 last week, one play away from going 3-1 this week. Three away from being 5-2.

I have no doubts of any kind I'm going to hit over 60%. I always do!

[spurraider21]

you can invent any trend on any arbitrary situation though, thats the issue.

"the steelers are 5-0 in home games against the bengals if the date is an odd number and they are coming off a game against a team who's name starts with a vowel"

[Avante]

EXACTLY. he needs to take his "spots" and stick them up his ass.

Let's break it down....

Raiders can't win on the east coast they suck in that "spot". The Jets just kick an extra point...winner!

The Browns can't win in Pitt, they have sucked in that "spot'....Steelers blow a 27-3 lead.. or...winner!

The Chargers at home getting 6 coming off a loss, a very solid 'spot"...winner!

The Bengals vs a team that hasn;t covered a spread in over a decade after playing their arch rival, a very solid "spot"....winner!

[Avante]

you can invent any trend on any arbitrary situation though, thats the issue.

"the steelers are 5-0 in home games against the bengals if the date is an odd number and they are coming off a game against a team who's name starts with a vowel"

You asked me about your Raiders vs Houston, well what happened?

So you need to totally ignore the fact your Raiders can't win (and yoi know they got lucky vs Jets) on the east coast...why?

Check it out....ATS

Miami 1-3 last 4 vs Buffalo

NO 1-3 vs Cleve


NYG 1-3 vs Ariz

Jets 3-1 vs GB

Oak 1-3 vs Hous

St.Louis 3-0 vs TB

If you'd played those trends.....

How did I know SD was going to cover? This one.....good team at home getting points after a loss. It works like a charm.

I have been a bit unlucky, that won't last.

[spurraider21]

you went 2-2 this week and are 2-5 on the season coming off b2b seasons where 50% would have been an enviable number. stop pretending like you know what you are talking about

[Avante]

you went 2-2 this week and are 2-5 on the season coming off b2b seasons where 50% would have been an enviable number. stop pretending like you know what you are talking about

I know exactly what I;m talking about, both weeks it looked like had 2-1 and 3-1 in the bag and you know it. So why play games? I always hit 60% this will be no different as you'll see.

Three plays from being 5-2 why act like that isn't the case? Fuck, Jets kick a extra point...3-4.

[spurraider21]

I know exactly what I;m talking about, both weeks it looked like had 2-1 and 3-1 in the bag and you know it. So why play games? I always hit 60% this will be no different as you'll see.

Three plays from being 5-2 why act like that isn't the case? Fuck, Jets kick a extra point...3-4.
same old story... same old song and dance

[Avante]

Week three, why wait?

Seattle coming off a road loss then back at home in the RW era, have never lost. The Broncos heading into a bye week vs the number 0-7 the last 7 years. Sea- the number.

Cinncy at home again vs a weak Titans team. The Bengals have covered nine home games in a row. Bengals - the number.

Indy has covered the spread vs Jax the last three times they've played, why not again? Indy - the number.

Gotta get off the Niners, they miss Bowman/Smith more than I thought they would.

Might add a few more, but those three for sure (unless Luck goes down tonight)

[Avante]

same old story... same old song and dance

I like reality, why do you keep ignoring it? Penalties are what's killing me.

Why are you ignoring the Raider game?

[spurraider21]

I like reality, why do you keep ignoring it?

Why are you ignoring the Raider game?
the reality is your betting record. why are you ignoring it?

i dont ignore raider games. i watch every snap

[Avante]

the reality is your betting record. why are you ignoring it?

i dont ignore raider games. i watch every snap

I;m not ignoring it, I needed an extra point kicked and not have all those penalties. That's reality. You see it why act like ya don't?

What did I tell you about your chances vs Houston?

Dude, are you simply blind? You thought....fuck 2-1 in week one...right? You thought fuck 3-1 this week....right? That's how close it's been, so why the bullshit?

[spurraider21]

I;m not ignoring it, I needed an extra point kicked and not have all those penalties. That's reality. You see it why act like ya don't?

What did I tell you about your chances vs Houston?

Dude, are you simply blind? You thought....fuck 2-1 in week one...right? You thought fuck 3-1 this week....right? That's how close it's been, so why the bullshit?
i never said the raiders would win. you are 2-5 this year though, yet you seem to be in denial about it

[Avante]

i never said the raiders would win. you are 2-5 this year though, yet you seem to be in denial about it

Not at all I just deal with reality....

Jets kick extras point...win!
Steelers don't blow a HUGE lead...win!
Niners don't turn it over 4/5 times...win!
Broncos play like they normally do at home....win!
Bengals did what I knew they would...win!
Chargers do what I knew they would...win!
Stupid with TB.

Why act like that isn't how it really is?

Only one game did I have the wrong side.

[Avante]

:lol gambling addict veering from his unbeatable strategy

Oh no everything will be based off those five teams. But.....there will be 'spots" like that one with the Chargerrs you can't ignore.

And.....the last two years the Niners had Bowman and Smith. Them not being there is huge, so I'll pass on the Niners until I see something.

That system is 4-3-2 as of right now.

[Avante]

It's 2012 the Cards are 4-0, would end up....5-11.

It's 2006 the Falcons are 3-1, would end up...7-9

It's 2008 the Bills are 4-0. would end up..7-9

Hell, just last season the Panthers are 1-3, would end up..11-5.

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!!!!!!!!!! Stop freaking out over "a" game...damn!

Oh hell no Kaepernick can't play he had a bad game, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony Romo is finished.....remember last week, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

[Clipper Nation]

Two plays away from going 2-1 last week, one play away from going 3-1 this week. Three away from being 5-2.

I have no doubts of any kind I'm going to hit over 60%. I always do!
2-6

[Clipper Nation]

That system is 4-3-2 as of right now.
You're 2-6 right now :lol

[jimbo]

Oh no everything will be based off those five teams. But.....there will be 'spots" like that one with the Chargerrs you can't ignore.

And.....the last two years the Niners had Bowman and Smith. Them not being there is huge, so I'll pass on the Niners until I see something.

That system is 4-3-2 as of right now.

:lol Changing your system after 2 weeks.

:lol Only sticking to the system in the slightest because it lets you bet both sides on here. If you win with those "spots you can't ignore" then you gloat about it, if your "spot" sucks and you lose you just point to the system winning.

[jimbo]

Gotta get off the Niners, they miss Bowman/Smith more than I thought they would.




Ok then you'll jump at this obviously.

I'll simply play...Den/Niners/Indy/Cinncy/Sea.....week in and week out. You take the opposite side, no doubt I suck at this so you'll jump at that....right?

The loser is history, yep, gone.......deal?

[Blake]

Lmao Avante trying to spin this.

"you can always tell the rookies"

"its only week 2"

"this is gonna be fun"

"hahahahahahahahaha"

[Blake]

It's 2012 the Cards are 4-0, would end up....5-11.

It's 2006 the Falcons are 3-1, would end up...7-9

It's 2008 the Bills are 4-0. would end up..7-9

Hell, just last season the Panthers are 1-3, would end up..11-5.

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!!!!!!!!!! Stop freaking out over "a" game...damn!

Oh hell no Kaepernick can't play he had a bad game, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony Romo is finished.....remember last week, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

Oh yeah I forgot "I'll go slow"

[Aztecfan03]

:lol Changing your system after 2 weeks.

:lol Only sticking to the system in the slightest because it lets you bet both sides on here. If you win with those "spots you can't ignore" then you gloat about it, if your "spot" sucks and you lose you just point to the system winning.

And his 5 best teams "system" is 1-3 with colts still to play.

[spurraider21]

Oh no everything will be based off those five teams. But.....there will be 'spots" like that one with the Chargerrs you can't ignore.

And.....the last two years the Niners had Bowman and Smith. Them not being there is huge, so I'll pass on the Niners until I see something.

That system is 4-3-2 as of right now.
you keep mentioning this system but you are literally refusing to put your money where your mouth is. just DAYS after discussing your "system" you chose the chargers over the seahawks, which is exactly why i told you that "system" was moronic. as i said repeatedly, its always smarter to go week by week and just look at the lines instead of blindly pledging allegiance to those teams.

its a big part of why i didnt take seattle or denver this week. both of your losses this week were a direct result of that system (Denver and SF) while one of your two wins came from going directly against it (SD over Seattle)

[Blake]

i never said the raiders would win. you are 2-5 this year though, yet you seem to be in denial about it

So he's 2-5 or 2-6 before tonights game?

[Aztecfan03]

So he's 2-5 or 2-6 before tonights game?

pretty sure it's 2-5. ANd he didn't pick tonight's game ATS.

[spurraider21]

So he's 2-5 or 2-6 before tonights game?
2-5 with a push

[Blake]

pretty sure it's 2-5. ANd he didn't pick tonight's game ATS.

So even though he wanted everyone to bet against his system, he's scrapping it?

If I cared enough, I wouldn't let him off the hook for those.

2-5 is enough to lol

[Aztecfan03]

So even though he wanted everyone to bet against his system, he's scrapping it?

If I cared enough, I wouldn't let him off the hook for those.

2-5 is enough to lol

He bet the same way as his system for Cincy, Denver, and SF. He bet against his system by betting against the Seahawks. And he said he couldn't trust Indy yet or something like that.

[GoodOdor]

I'm with Harlem, even a blind monkey is bound to hit a streak, which makes old faggot's picks for 2+ years just incredible:lol

It's as if Jesus himself hates him.

[Malik Hairston]

Two plays away from going 2-1 last week, one play away from going 3-1 this week. Three away from being 5-2.

I have no doubts of any kind I'm going to hit over 60%. I always do!

Man, I know so many degenerate gamblers that speak this way, tbh..

My cousin lost over $80 000 at the casino over a year span(2 years ago) and he continuously repeated that he was "so close" and figured out "a system to beat them":lol..get some help, bro..

[Blake]

Man, I know so many degenerate gamblers that speak this way, tbh..

My cousin lost over $80 000 at the casino over a year span(2 years ago) and he continuously repeated that he was "so close" and figured out "a system to beat them":lol..get some help, bro..

80k?

Fuck.

[leemajors]

Lol ifs buts

[spurraider21]

anytime a game finishes within 7 points of the spread you can claim you were one play away :lol... get over it

[Malik Hairston]

80k?

Fuck.

:lol ya, his wife made him blacklist himself from the local casino(they can't deny the request), tbh..he tried to get in a few times and they caught him and kicked him out:lol..

Doesn't stop him from gambling when he's on vacation, though..

[AlexJones]

Hey fat fuck, if you're betting on slim underdogs on the road just bet on the money line and not ATS.

[jimbo]

So with the Colts loss, the Avante system is 1-4 this week.

[AchillesHeel]

So with the Colts loss, the Avante system is 1-4 this week.

I think he's 2-6 for the season so far.

[Aztecfan03]

I think he's 2-6 for the season so far.

that's because he didn't fully use his system this week. If he did he would be 1-7. If he played only those 5 teams both weeks, he would be 4-4 though.

[Avante]

I think he's 2-6 for the season so far.

Try 4-4-2

[Avante]

Ok let's look at a play I simply have to step out on.

Atlanta - the number on Thursday night vs TB.

There is no team in the league that likes Thursday night better that the Falcons. In this "spot" they are a healthy 7-1 vs the number and 5-1 as a HF.

Now add...anytime the Buc's lose back to back games and get a Thursday game...0-2. The Buc;s are also a weak RD recently.

So we have 14-2 trend favoring the Falcons in this "spot".

If they can beat the Saints at home why not the inferior Buc's? If the Buc;s can't win at home how they going to get it going coming off a short week on the road?

I love this "spot" I will playing 330 to win 300. Yep, a very nice "spot" to get most my $$$$ back.

[Blake]

Try 4-4-2

Lol wut?

You're gonna need to lay out your 10 bets because the rest of us have you at 2-6, or at best, 2-5.

[Blake]

I love this "spot" I will playing 330 to win 300. Yep, a very nice "spot" to get most my $$$$ back.

Uh, if you're down more than $300, then how are you 4-4-2

[spurraider21]

Try 4-4-2
no, you are 2-5. i have been keeping track. stop lying

[Avante]

no, you are 2-5. i have been keeping track. stop lying

Why not read what I was responding to, ok? I was talking about that system of mine. I'm 2-5 the system is 4-4-2.

Week one

Cinncy
Niners
Sea.....all cover. Colts and Broncos both push. so...3-0-2

This week....Cinncy covers, the Niners, Broncos, Seattle and Indy don't, so...1-4 or 4-4-2

You guys really think I don't know my every move is watched like a hawk, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!! You really think I think I;'m going to be able to bullshit about my plays...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far 2-5....ok? I've made 7 plays ATS. Slow down guys and pay attention this NEED to....YOU LOST..YOU LIED...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell, I have a push and it's...YOU LOST!!!!!!!! I play a SU play....0-4.....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Midgets, come on...

I'm done giving SU plays, wayyyyyyy too confusing.....here.,

[Avante]

you keep mentioning this system but you are literally refusing to put your money where your mouth is. just DAYS after discussing your "system" you chose the chargers over the seahawks, which is exactly why i told you that "system" was moronic. as i said repeatedly, its always smarter to go week by week and just look at the lines instead of blindly pledging allegiance to those teams.

its a big part of why i didnt take seattle or denver this week. both of your losses this week were a direct result of that system (Denver and SF) while one of your two wins came from going directly against it (SD over Seattle)

I try my best to play those teams that have had the best ATS success. Why wouldn't you? It has proven to be a $$$$$ system. Yep, injuries do play a part, the Niners are really missing Bowman and (dumb is his injury) Smith. The Colts miss Mathis.

That Seattle/SD game was the classic "spot" that goes......"good team coming off a loss now at home getting points"...that is a 70% play. Too strong to ignore and I didn't. I expected to see Seattle 24 Chargers 20.

[Avante]

You're 2-6 right now :lol

Hey stupid, do you ever ever ever get anything right? Why not actually pay attention, ok?

Week one...0-3. two plays from being 2-1
Week two...2-2...one play from being 3-1

Have Atlanta Thursday night minus the number, playing 330 to win 300. A tons of reasons to play this strong.

Will also be playing....Cinncy/Sea/Indy. The adsence of Bowman/Smith making a bigger difference than I thought with the Niners.

Might add a couple more.

[Clipper Nation]

Hey stupid, do you ever ever ever get anything right? Why not actually pay attention, ok?

Week one...0-3. two plays from being 2-1
Week two...2-2...one play from being 3-1
Reality...2-5

[Avante]

Reality...2-5

Bingo! But oh so close to being 5-2. And it does get easier as the season progresses.

[Blake]

Bingo! But oh so close to being 5-2. And it does get easier as the season progresses.

But oh you're 2-5

[Avante]

But oh you're 2-5

I realize that but when ya lose a game because they simply went for two, and another by blowing a 27-3 lead....ouch!

The Baylor vs Buffalo game was too easy...huh?

[Fabbs]

I realize that but last season i was only 87 plays away from being above .500

[Clipper Nation]

Bingo! But oh so close to being 5-2. And it does get easier as the season progresses.

Nobody cares about how "close" you were, at the end of the day, you're 2-5....

And despite your constant claims that "it gets easier as the season goes on," we have two full seasons' worth of evidence that you never stop sucking at this :lol

[Avante]

Nobody cares about how "close" you were, at the end of the day, you're 2-5....

And despite your constant claims that "it gets easier as the season goes on," we have two full seasons' worth of evidence that you never stop sucking at this :lol

Let's see how 2014 goes ok half pint?

[Clipper Nation]

Let's see how 2014 goes ok half pint?

^ Another excuse that you've spammed three years in a row ^

[Blake]

I realize that but when ya lose a game because they simply went for two, and another by blowing a 27-3 lead....ouch!

The Baylor vs Buffalo game was too easy...huh?

That happened to me in a number of college games already. I'm not complaining.

What's the Baylor game got to do with anything here

[Blake]

Lol "let's see how [insert year here] goes, ok?"

[Avante]

That happened to me in a number of college games already. I'm not complaining.

What's the Baylor game got to do with anything here

It sucks doesn't it when you know you had the right side?

You remember me telling you that Baylor has never failed to cover a spread that big? Yep, easy!

Dude, be cool....can ya do it?

[Avante]

I always get a kick out of dumb white guys weeping and moaning over the fact we can't run. When it's SOOOOOOOOOO damn obvious.

Right now the NFL has..."one"...speedy/quick white running back in Danny Woodhead. Since 1960 there have been about.....hmmmm?....around a dozen white backs that made an impact...a dozen. That's how lopsided this is. We could say the same thing (a few more here) for receivers. That's sad.

You all know I'm a track guy first and a football freak second.

There has never been a Mexican, Asain run a sub10.00 100m, and only Frenchman Christophe LeMaite has done it as far as white guys go. Now look at tiny Trinidad, that tiny island....Darrel Brown, Marc Burns, Kleston Bledman, Ato Boldon, Richard Thompson....all black, all ran a sub10..00. Hell, TCU has had seven black sub10.00 sprinters among the alum.

Then there's that....size with speed combo only seen in black athletes. Usian Bolt is 6-5, Calvin Johnson is 6-4, Herchel Walker/Bo Jackson/Marcus Dupree all over 220 pounds all blazing fast.

We see a big white back like John Rggins***, Peyton Hilis. Larry Csonka.....slow!

*** Riggins was fast at around 210 pounds in HS, a 9.8 guy.

[spurraider21]

Why not read what I was responding to, ok? I was talking about that system of mine. I'm 2-5 the system is 4-4-2.

Week one

Cinncy
Niners
Sea.....all cover. Colts and Broncos both push. so...3-0-2

This week....Cinncy covers, the Niners, Broncos, Seattle and Indy don't, so...1-4 or 4-4-2

You guys really think I don't know my every move is watched like a hawk, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!! You really think I think I;'m going to be able to bullshit about my plays...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far 2-5....ok? I've made 7 plays ATS. Slow down guys and pay attention this NEED to....YOU LOST..YOU LIED...hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell, I have a push and it's...YOU LOST!!!!!!!! I play a SU play....0-4.....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Midgets, come on...

I'm done giving SU plays, wayyyyyyy too confusing.....here.,
quit claiming "the system" as yours if you refuse to play it. you are 2-5 PERIOD. if you want to talk about some genius system, put your money on your mouth is and make those plays every time. otherwise you are 2-5, that is it and that is all

[Avante]

quit claiming "the system" as yours if you refuse to play it. you are 2-5 PERIOD. if you want to talk about some genius system, put your money on your mouth is and make those plays every time. otherwise you are 2-5, that is it and that is all

Whatever you say, you're the boss, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Both NO/Indy have season defining games this week, they cannot go 0-3. While their opponets Vikings/Jags are going nowhere.

The Saints "finally" at home. The Colts in a "must win" situation, will lay the points.

[Blake]

It sucks doesn't it when you know you had the right side?

You remember me telling you that Baylor has never failed to cover a spread that big? Yep, easy!

Dude, be cool....can ya do it?

Yeah I put $50 on Baylor before you said anything.

No idea what this has to do with anything.

[Aztecfan03]

Try 4-4-2

your "system" is but you are 2-5.

[Aztecfan03]

Both NO/Indy have season defining games this week, they cannot go 0-3. While their opponets Vikings/Jags are going nowhere.

The Saints "finally" at home. The Colts in a "must win" situation, will lay the points.

I agree both should win, but the spread determines if it is good to bet.

[Avante]

your "system" is but you are 2-5.

Are you new at this? It sure appears that way.

Give things some time, ok? Don't act like a little immature kid..ok?

Lot of footbal left to play...honest!

[Avante]

I agree both should win, but the spread determines if it is good to bet.

That's not true at all. If you think a team can win the game outright if going with a favorite you ignore the number, You do pay attention to the number when playing dogs.

You never try and play..."I think we'll win but not by that much". Those oddsmakers rarely make a mistake.

[Avante]

Yeah I put $50 on Baylor before you said anything.

No idea what this has to do with anything.

Just trying to talk to your dumb ass, my mistake. Dude, you really are just a little prick, huh?

[Aztecfan03]

That's not true at all. If you think a team can win the game outright if going with a favorite you ignore the number, You do pay attention to the number when playing dogs.

You never try and play..."I think we'll win but not by that much". Those oddsmakers rarely make a mistake.

Look at where that has gotten you with Denver this year.

And actually, if you think the Underdog will win, then it might make sense to not care about the number since them winning automatically means they cleared the number.

[Avante]

Look at where that has gotten you with Denver this year.

And actually, if you think the Underdog will win, then it might make sense to not care about the number since them winning automatically means they cleared the number.

We can't ignore the fact Wes Welker isn't there.

Betting the NFL is all about odds. If you'd bet on Denver since Manning showed up you'd be....22-14-2. You don't...well after -two weeks.....hell they were 1-2 after three weeks in 2012 ATS, ended up...11-6. After 8 weeks in 2013...4-3-1 then went 7-3.

I see nothing to think they can't do something similiar, do you?

I rarely see an underdog getting points where I think they'll win the game. So that's where your homework comes into play.
How do they do vs that number?


Give things some time.

[Blake]

Just trying to talk to your dumb ass, my mistake. Dude, you really are just a little prick, huh?

I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. My mistake.

[Cry Havoc]

Who's gonna be the last unbeaten? My money might be on Cincy. Crazy, but Denver's got a brutal schedule, I have no faith in Philly, not sure Houston is that good given their season last year, and no one else is that impressive.

[Avante]

Who's gonna be the last unbeaten? My money might be on Cincy. Crazy, but Denver's got a brutal schedule, I have no faith in Philly, not sure Houston is that good given their season last year, and no one else is that impressive.

Cinncy should beat Tennesee then a bye week and then....at New England. So how do they play coming off a bye on the road....I don't have that stat. If they do get by the Pats then here comes Carolina/Indy/Baltimore....no way they make it past the four just mentioned undefeated.

I see Denver getting beat in Seattle this week, the Seahawks at home coming off a loss.......a tough "spot" for any team.

Arizona has lost to the Niners in Arizona the last two seasons, now the Niners are coming off a loss. Teams heading into bye weeks...hmmmmm? Arizona heading into a bye week.

[Avante]

I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. My mistake.

Anyone talking Texas Tech is trying to have an intelli.........hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Anyone talking Texas Tech is trying to have an intelli.........hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Blake talking about his alma mater is "dumb"? I know TTU isn't up to the hallowed standards of College of the Sequioas, but come on :lol

[Avante]

Blake talking about his alma mater is "dumb"? I know TTU isn't up to the hallowed standards of College of the Sequioas, but come on :lol

I'm a Niners fan as you know. But do you see me getting silly with it? We aren't as good as the Seahawks right now because RW is far better than Kaepernick. You keep it real, not ....I went there, so...or..I like, so. We see rookies play that.

Would you believe COS has an NFL player better than anyone who ever came out of TT?

[Brazil]

BTW is 4-4-2 is anything good ? average ? or bad ?

[Blake]

Would you believe COS has an NFL player better than anyone who ever came out of TT?

No

[Avante]

BTW is 4-4-2 is anything good ? average ? or bad ?

It doesn't work that way. Because you are dealing with five teams playing a minimum of 16 games each. You are only interested in the end results.

It's 2012, after two weeks ATS

Cincy...0-1-1 ended up...9-7-1
Denver...1-1 ened up...11-6
Indy..1-1 ended up...10-6-1
Niners..2-0 ended up...10-8-1
Seattle..1-1 ended up...13-5

So the five started off....5-3-1
They ended up...53-32-3

2013 first two weeks

Cincy...1-0-1
Denver..2-0
Indy...0-2
Niners...1-1
Seattle...2-0

Started out...6-4-1

Ended up ATS

Cincy..10-6-1
Denver...11-7-1
Indy....11-7
Niners...12-6-1
Seattle...13-6

So...57-32-3

So all that is going to "dramatically" change in 2014?

So a 110-64-6 is going to become a loser a year later?

[Avante]

No

Then as usual you'd be wrong.

[Blake]

BTW is 4-4-2 is anything good ? average ? or bad ?

It's bad in the sense you lose "juice"

[Blake]

Then as usual you'd be wrong.

As usual you're full of shit.

[Avante]

As usual you're full of shit.

Wanna make a bet? Back your big mouth up...ok?

Who would you consider is the most revered/best TT NFLer ever?

[Clipper Nation]

Then as usual you'd be wrong.
I'm sure you're referring to Antonio Gates, but he didn't play any sports at COS (only went there briefly to get his grades in order) and didn't play a down of football in college.... he also played basketball at two other colleges (EMU, Kent State).... saying COS "produced" him is a ridiculous stretch :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Also, Zach Thomas and Wes Welker alone are better than any NFL players that COS has actually produced :lol

[Avante]

I'm sure you're referring to Antonio Gates, but he didn't play any sports at COS (only went there briefly to get his grades in order) and didn't play a down of football in college.... he also played basketball at two other colleges (EMU, Kent State).... saying COS "produced" him is a ridiculous stretch :lol

Yep, Antonio Gates. But....read what I said. I said nothing about him playing there.

[Clipper Nation]

Yep, Antonio Gates. But....read what I said. I said nothing about him playing there.
You said COS "had an NFL player," implying they were responsible in any way for his success on the gridiron....

[Avante]

Also, Zach Thomas and Wes Welker alone are better than any NFL players that COS has actually produced :lol

Stupid.....do you really think I/anyone is going to debate a tiny JC vs Texas Tech...hahaha!!!!!! I just found it interesting that Gates did go there and he's obviously a better NFL TE( vs other TE's) than anyone out of TT vs their position.

[Avante]

You said COS "had an NFL player," implying they were responsible in any way for his success on the gridiron....

As usual youi never ever ever get anything right. I said nothing about Gates playing for COS, because he didn't.

But....when you list his education you will see COS there. So if anyone asked...what NFL players have attended COS you would mention Antonio Gates.

Let me guess..zooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aztecfan03]

Stupid.....do you really think I/anyone is going to debate a tiny JC vs Texas Tech...hahaha!!!!!! I just found it interesting that Gates did go there and he's obviously a better NFL TE( vs other TE's) than anyone out of TT vs their position.

Why do you like trolling so much?

[Avante]

Why do you like trolling so much?

Trolling is for young punk kids who don't know shit about shit so they must act stupid to get attention. I don't play that stupid immature bullshit. I come real, I don't follow anyone around, they come to me, just like you're doing.

I'm an historian (and can prove that) who knows his stuff, if ya wanna learn/debate/joust...cool! That's not trolling.

[Blake]

Yep, Antonio Gates. But....read what I said. I said nothing about him playing there.

I think most would concur with CN that Zach Thomas > Gates.

which makes you wrong as usual.

[Avante]

I think most would concur with CN that Zach Thomas > Gates.

which makes you wrong as usual.

Not anyone who knows the NFL.

Antonio Gates vs all other TE's in history

TD's...2
Receptions...4
Yards...3

Are you telling me Zach Thomas is among the top 3-4 linebackers ever?

Go anywhere ranking linebackers and you'll see....

No. 15, Zach Thomas (Dolphins/Cowboys)
(1996-2008)
*Seven-time Pro Bowler
*Five-time 1st Team All-Pro
*Two-time 2nd Team All-Pro

This from 2012, talking greatest TE's


6. Antonio Gates, Chargers (2003-12)
3-time first-team All-Pro
8-time Pro Bowler
642 catches for 8,321 yards (13.0 ypc) and 83 TDs

Only a dummy like you would see Thomas as a better backer tthan Gates is as a TE.

[spurraider21]

zach thomas was a tackling machine, but i thought he was generally overrated. he was consistent and reliable but i never really saw him as a gamebreaker

[Avante]

zach thomas was a tackling machine, but i thought he was generally overrated. he was consistent and reliable but i never really saw him as a gamebreaker

Thomas was great but he's not among the top 3/4 backers ever, Antonio Gates is among the top 3/4 TE's ever.

[Blake]

You can't compare the rank of positions. It's stupid.

Zach has more tackles than any linebacker currently in the HOF.

I'll give it a wash between the two and leave it at that.

[Brazil]

It doesn't work that way. Because you are dealing with five teams playing a minimum of 16 games each. You are only interested in the end results.

It's 2012, after two weeks ATS

Cincy...0-1-1 ended up...9-7-1
Denver...1-1 ened up...11-6
Indy..1-1 ended up...10-6-1
Niners..2-0 ended up...10-8-1
Seattle..1-1 ended up...13-5

So the five started off....5-3-1
They ended up...53-32-3

2013 first two weeks

Cincy...1-0-1
Denver..2-0
Indy...0-2
Niners...1-1
Seattle...2-0

Started out...6-4-1

Ended up ATS

Cincy..10-6-1
Denver...11-7-1
Indy....11-7
Niners...12-6-1
Seattle...13-6

So...57-32-3

So all that is going to "dramatically" change in 2014?

So a 110-64-6 is going to become a loser a year later?

I understand the logic behind even though the logic is by definition flawed, the historical result of years of rosters is no indication of the performance of a new roster. It would be like betting on chances of the Celtics winning championships in the 90's based on their 80's successes...

but at digress, I was just wondering if a 4-4-2 is anything good right now ? I understand it is not compared to a 110-64-6 but by itself you win money on a 4-4-2 ?

[Avante]

I understand the logic behind even though the logic is by definition flawed, the historical result of years of rosters is no indication of the performance of a new roster. It would be like betting on chances of the Celtics winning championships in the 90's based on their 80's successes...

but at digress, I was just wondering if a 4-4-2 is anything good right now ? I understand it is not compared to a 110-64-6 but by itself you win money on a 4-4-2 ?

Will LSU beat Grambling 100 out of 100 years from now on, yes they will. How can that be with all those roster changes? Well?

Why haven't the Lions/Browns ever been in a Superbowl? Remember all those roster changes.

As far as the betting goes, you don't worry about any trend that is time tested. So it doesn't matter what happened in....two weeks.

[Avante]

Guys look....

Stop acting like fucking little rookies over a few weeks...ok? It's fucking stupid! Look at the Cowboys...oh they SUCK, ROMO YOU SUCK...boom..win the next game.

The Niners KICKED ASS...they lose.

GIVE THINGS SOME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow~~~

The Saints ..SUCK!!!!!!!!!....ah..back to back on the road, ok?

Remember last season and it was...Eddie Lacy is fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brazil]

Will LSU beat Grambling 100 out of 100 years from now on, yes they will. How can that be with all those roster changes? Well?

:lol no you cannot say LSU will beat grambling 100 out of 100 years from now on


Why haven't the Lions/Browns ever been in a Superbowl? Remember all those roster changes.

Probably for the same reasons the Mavs never won a LOB before 2011... but guess what happened in 2011 ? or Bulls between 66 and 90... what happened next ?


As far as the betting goes, you don't worry about any trend that is time tested. So it doesn't matter what happened in....two weeks.

ok so 4-4-2 sucks but you are saying its no biggie because it will be good in the long run... typical from compulsive gambler tbh

[Aztecfan03]

You can't compare the rank of positions. It's stupid.

Zach has more tackles than any linebacker currently in the HOF.

I'll give it a wash between the two and leave it at that.

I agree about the comparing rank of positions thing. When people list the greatest players they don't list 1 qb, 1 rb, 1 wr, etc. through all the positions and then go back to qb and do it all over.

But there is also the fact that there are usually 3-4 linebackers on the field. Usually only 1 TE.

Not sure about the thomas vs. gates thing though.

[Avante]

:lol no you cannot say LSU will beat grambling 100 out of 100 years from now on



Probably for the same reasons the Mavs never won a LOB before 2011... but guess what happened in 2011 ? or Bulls between 66 and 90... what happened next ?



ok so 4-4-2 sucks but you are saying its no biggie because it will be good in the long run... typical from compulsive gambler tbh

Totally wrong on every level.

LSU is on a whole other level of football than Grambling is on. There isn't one player on that Grambling team that could start for LSU and it's been that way for over a decade.

Talking football here not basketball.

I just showed you that the first few weeks had little to do with how things ended up. It's been that way for the five years since I discovered this system. It's a $$$$$$ maker.

[Blake]

I just showed you that the first few weeks had little to do with how things ended up. It's been that way for the five years since I discovered this system. It's a $$$$$$ maker.

Except you've lost money here.

Why keep pretending you're an expert when you're just an old scrub?

It's been verified that you suck at this.

2-5.

[Avante]

You can't compare the rank of positions. It's stupid.

Zach has more tackles than any linebacker currently in the HOF.

I'll give it a wash between the two and leave it at that.

Stupid is doing it any other way. That is how it's done dummy.

You know you're wrong so why play bullshit games?

You can rattle off a ton of backers before getting to Zack Thomas, you can't do that with TE's, it's Tony Gonzalez, Jason Witten, Shannon Sharpe, Antonio Gates, or maybe Kellon Winslow and then Antonio Gates.

Watch this...

Dick Butkus
Lawrence Taylor
Ray Nitsche
Ted Hendricks
Bobby Bell
Mike Singletary
Ray Lewis
Derrick Thomas
Patrick Willis
Willie Lanier
Jack Lambert
Jack Ham
Junior Seau

[Avante]

Except you've lost money here.

Why keep pretending you're an expert when you're just an old scrub?

It's been verified that you suck at this.

2-5.

Whatever

So you see Zack Thomas is not on a level with Antonio Gates...right?

[Blake]

Stupid is doing it any other way. That is how it's done dummy.

You know you're wrong so why play bullshit games?

You can rattle off a ton of backers before getting to Zack Thomas, you can't do that with TE's, it's Tony Gonzalez, Jason Witten, Shannon Sharpe, Antonio Gates, or maybe Kellon Winslow and then Antonio Gates.

Watch this...

Dick Butkus
Lawrence Taylor
Ray Nitsche
Ted Hendricks
Bobby Bell
Mike Singletary
Ray Lewis
Derrick Thomas
Patrick Willis
Willie Lanier
Jack Lambert
Jack Ham
Junior Seau

No it's not done like that.

It's completely possible that the 10th best linebacker could be better than the greatest tight end.

You're a retarded fat lying piece of shit.

[Blake]

Whatever

So you see Zack Thomas is not on a level with Antonio Gates...right?

Do you not know what a "wash" means? I figured that term was old enough for you.

I'll say they're on equal footing.

But lol trying to claim him for COS when he played for Kent St.

[Avante]

No it's not done like that.

It's completely possible that the 10th best linebacker could be better than the greatest tight end.

You're a retarded fat lying piece of shit.

What happened little man, did it finally hit your dumbass that it's done exactly as I said it was? Yes stupid Antonio Gates is a better TE than Zach Thomas is as a backer. You really are a total moron aren't ya?

Hey stupid why do you think we have...THE TOP 1O TIGHT ENDS...QB's, backers, wide receivers etcetcetc.

[Aztecfan03]

Totally wrong on every level.

LSU is on a whole other level of football than Grambling is on. There isn't one player on that Grambling team that could start for LSU and it's been that way for over a decade.

Talking football here not basketball.

I just showed you that the first few weeks had little to do with how things ended up. It's been that way for the five years since I discovered this system. It's a $$$$$$ maker.

Appalacian st. and Michigan.

[Avante]

Do you not know what a "wash" means? I figured that term was old enough for you.

I'll say they're on equal footing.

But lol trying to claim him for COS when he played for Kent St.

Fuck your wimpy ass..."I was wrong"..wash.

Hey stupid, ALL JC players play at a 4 year school, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a dummy, wow!

You do know Gates never played at COS right?

I'll go slow...

Some athletes go the JC route, that is two years..ok? Then after that JC experience they arrive at USC etc as a junior. Ya with me?

We did see one great great Hall of Fame player go straight from a JC into the pros, who was that? Hell, you don't know, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Appalacian st. and Michigan.

Obviously you know nothing about the SWAC.

[Blake]

2-5.

[Avante]

2-5.

Zack Thomas is better than Antonio Gates.

Texas Tech

A 15=20 ranked linebacker better than a 3-5 ranked TE, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brazil]

Totally wrong on every level.

LSU is on a whole other level of football than Grambling is on. There isn't one player on that Grambling team that could start for LSU and it's been that way for over a decade.

Talking football here not basketball.

I just showed you that the first few weeks had little to do with how things ended up. It's been that way for the five years since I discovered this system. It's a $$$$$$ maker.

football nba what is the difference in terms of betting ?.. there are no trends in nba ? no trends in nba ?

How do you trend the 49rs in 2011 after 2010 6-10 season and the losing streak since 99?

[Avante]

football nba what is the difference in terms of betting ?.. there are no trends in nba ? no trends in nba ?

How do you trend the 49rs in 2011 after 2010 6-10 season and the losing streak since 99?

Real simple, a coaching change. If ya notice when I talk about the Niners it's..."in the Harbaugh era".

In the Harbaugh era the Niners are....35-21-3 ATS (counting 2014) They have never failed to win 13 games in a season. So to bet on them every week you'd be way out in front....right?

But if ya just bet on them as a HF in the Harbaugh era...18-6. See how it works?

Right now the Niners are without some key players, sure ya have toi take that into consideration.

[Blake]

Zack Thomas is better than Antonio Gates.

Texas Tech

A 15=20 ranked linebacker better than a 3-5 ranked TE, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Avante]

2-5

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translation

Avante totally kicked my narrow little ass ...again. Hell yes Antonio Gates is a better TE than Zack Thomas was a backer, ok ok ok I'm a midget and stupid.

[Clipper Nation]

Appalacian st. and Michigan.

Also, 1-AA North Dakota State has won their last five games against 1-A opponents....

Of course, you're talking to Mr. 2-5, so don't expect him to know jack shit about football :lol

[Brazil]

Real simple, a coaching change. If ya notice when I talk about the Niners it's..."in the Harbaugh era".

In the Harbaugh era the Niners are....35-21-3 ATS (counting 2014) They have never failed to win 13 games in a season. So to bet on them every week you'd be way out in front....right?

But if ya just bet on them as a HF in the Harbaugh era...18-6. See how it works?

Right now the Niners are without some key players, sure ya have toi take that into consideration.

again this demonstrates you don't use your system... you just do the same than everybody, you consider trends and ponderate them with actual coach, rosters, injuries... funny part is that the "pure" system would have given 4-4-2 and your ponderations made you 2-5.

all in all not sure how your 110-whatever-whatever is something to brag about knowing even you don't believe on it

[Avante]

Also, 1-AA North Dakota State has won their last five games against 1-A opponents....

Of course, you're talking to Mr. 2-5, so don't expect him to know jack shit about football :lol

Once again, you never ever ever ever ever get anything right. I was talking about the SWAC moron, not App St, not ND St..ok?

Do yoiu even know what the SWAC is?

[Clipper Nation]

Once again, you never ever ever ever ever get anything right. I was talking about the SWAC moron, not App St, not ND St..ok?

Do yoiu even know what the SWAC is?
2-5

[Avante]

again this demonstrates you don't use your system... you just do the same than everybody, you consider trends and ponderate them with actual coach, rosters, injuries... funny part is that the "pure" system would have given 4-4-2 and your ponderations made you 2-5.

all in all not sure how your 110-whatever-whatever is something to brag about knowing even you don't believe on it

I do believe in as you'll see this week.

Every once in awhile the system will be against some monster trend or injuries will get in the way.

[Avante]

2-5



translation

What's the SWAC?

[Clipper Nation]

translation

What's the SWAC?

The SWAC is a 1-AA conference, same division as North Dakota State....

2-5 :lmao

[Avante]

There are schools known as...HBCU...Historically Black College Universities. Those schools were pretty good back in the day, but not anymore.

When an school from one of the power conferences play those teams it's Big Guy 60-HBCU 10.

See ya learned something.

[Avante]

The SWAC is a 1-AA conference, same division as North Dakota State....

2-5 :lmao

You just get dumber and dumber don't ya? No clue of any kind, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Troy in Division I........now think stupid, what chance do they have against LSU, USC etc? That's what the SWAC is in 1-AA.

[Clipper Nation]

You just get dumber and dumber don't ya? No clue of any kind, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Troy in Division I........now think stupid, what chance do they have against LSU, USC etc? That's what the SWAC is in 1-AA.

A monkey flinging shit at the wall > you at betting :lol

[Avante]

A monkey flinging shit at the wall > you at betting :lol

Two monkeys fucking and what do we get.....ClipperNation.

I see you bailed on the subject seeing you were wrong.,....again!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Two monkeys fucking and what do we get.....ClipperNation.

I see you bailed on the subject seeing you were wrong.,....again!!!!!!!!!!!

2-5

[Avante]

2-5

translation

Yep, ND St and App St on a whole other level than those SWAC teams Avante was talking about. I once again didn't know what I was talking about, how do I get out of this, oh yeah.....2-5.

[Blake]

translation

Avante totally kicked my narrow little ass ...again. Hell yes Antonio Gates is a better TE than Zack Thomas was a backer, ok ok ok I'm a midget and stupid.

Not better. It's a wash.

You're retarded.

2-5

[Blake]

translation

Yep, ND St and App St on a whole other level than those SWAC teams Avante was talking about. I once again didn't know what I was talking about, how do I get out of this, oh yeah.....2-5.

Expert is 2-5.

[Avante]

Not better. It's a wash.

You're retarded.

2-5

So a TE who is among the very top at his position is equal to a linebacker way down there at his position right Sparky, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about one dumb mutherfucker.

[Avante]

Expert is 2-5.

Dummy is all jacked over....two...weeks, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

Dummy is all jacked over....two...weeks, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two seasons plus two weeks dummy.

You're one retarded underage kid fucker

[Avante]

Two seasons plus two weeks dummy.

You're one retarded underage kid fucker


2-5 is two weeks ya fucking idiot.

So you got your ass whipped over a 20th ranked backer vs a 4th ranked TE and can;'t handle it, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Texas Tech hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

2-5 is two weeks ya fucking idiot.

So you got your ass whipped over a 20th ranked backer vs a 4th ranked TE and can;'t handle it, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Texas Tech hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5

[Avante]

2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5 2-5

I got Atlanta tomorrow night minus 6.5. Will play 330 to win 300.

Here's why...

Atlanta on Thursday night's are as good as it gets. 7-1 overall ATS and 5=1 as a HF. No team has done it better.

The Buc's are 1-4 on Thursday nights ATS. So I have a 16-3 trend favoring the Falcons.

What do ya think shorty?

[Malik Hairston]

I don't feel like looking through the thread, tbh, what's Avante's record this season?..

[spurraider21]

I don't feel like looking through the thread, tbh, what's Avante's record this season?..
2-5... and he's laying 3 units on the falcons tomorrow

[Avante]

2-5

But do see this week as a great place to start to turn it around a lot of great "spots' to play.

[Malik Hairston]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

[Avante]

2-5... and he's laying 3 units on the falcons tomorrow

No team has been better than Atlanta in these Thursday night games ATS I have to step out on this one.

[Avante]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

I wasn't kidding about this being the first season I've let my actual $ plays out here. So don't go by in the past go with this season.

I realize it MUST be...YOU LOST!!!...but the adults see that I'm getting no breaks at all. Teams not kicking extra points, losing big leads. Yep, that can't go on.

As of right now...

Atlanta - 6.5
Indy -6.5
Sea - 4.5
Cincy - 7.5
Mia - 4.5

Might add a couple more.

Have to lay off the Niners, they will be without three D starters,

[Blake]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

Vegas is daring everyone to take Atlanta giving points.

I'll put a quarter on the Bucs +6.5.

[Blake]

I wasn't kidding about this being the first season I've let my actual $ plays out here.

:lol what a fat lying piece of shit.

:cry it was Mason's picks and we laughed at you taking us seriously :cry

[Avante]

Vegas is daring everyone to take Atlanta giving points.

I'll put a quarter on the Bucs +6.5.

The Buc;s are 0-2ATS on Thursday night games coming off consecutive losses. The Falcons 5-1 ATS HF. You'd buck that?

[Avante]

:lol what a fat lying piece of shit.

:cry it was Mason's picks and we laughed at you taking us seriously :cry

Sorry half pint but that's how it was as you'll see.

Would you believe that under Marc Trestman the Bears have never covered back to back road games? And the Jets are 3-0 vs the Bears ATS?

How does anyone who can do that lose at this for very long?

[Blake]

Sorry half pint but that's how it was as you'll see.

Would you believe that under Marc Trestman the Bears have never covered back to back road games? And the Jets are 3-0 vs the Bears ATS?

How does anyone who can do that lose at this for very long?

Sorry two ton but everyone knows you were serious.

[Blake]

The Buc;s are 0-2ATS on Thursday night games coming off consecutive losses. The Falcons 5-1 ATS HF. You'd buck that?

I'm bucking you, mother bucker.

[Avante]

I'm bucking you, mother bucker.

So you are willing to ignore all the stats/trends favoring the Falcons in this "spot' right?

Let's make it real interesting ok small fry? The loser does 30 days self bannishment other than one day a week to make your plays, deal? Remember just go against me.

Hmmm?

The Linemakers' lean: Atlanta is just a different team at home, compiling records of 30-13 SU and 23-18 ATS under coach Mike Smith. The Falcons have dominated Tampa in the Georgia Dome, and now get a banged-up Bucs team on a short week. We'll lay the points here and also look to use Atlanta is some teasers.

[AlexJones]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

don't do it.

[spurraider21]

The Buc;s are 0-2ATS on Thursday night games coming off consecutive losses.
trends go out the window with new coaches and quarterbacks. everybody knows that, dummy

[Aztecfan03]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

I think he will be right about the Falcons this week, but not because of his stupid spots.

[Aztecfan03]

Sorry half pint but that's how it was as you'll see.

Would you believe that under Marc Trestman the Bears have never covered back to back road games? And the Jets are 3-0 vs the Bears ATS?

How does anyone who can do that lose at this for very long?

Geno Smith. Never trust him. Thought you learned that week 1.

[AlexJones]

Avante, Thebesteva tells me that word on the streets is you're a faggot.

[chunticakes]

Avante, Thebesteva tells me that word on the streets is you're a faggot.

A seasoned, old one.

[Malik Hairston]

You know what..I'm going to tail Avante for a 2-3 weeks, tbh, he's due for a hot stretch, there's no way that anybody on Earth can continue the pace of failure he has displayed the past 2-3 years..

I'll post screenshots of my bets, in case ppls don't believe I'm stupid/crazy enough to do this:lol..

Don't let me down, fat man..

Good time to start tailing Avante, tbh, he's due for a good stretch..

[Malik Hairston]

Vegas is daring everyone to take Atlanta giving points.

I'll put a quarter on the Bucs +6.5.

The public was 80% on Atlanta, it was just one of those nights where a square play easily won:lol..

Doesn't happen often, obviously..the Bucs look historically bad, Vegas didn't expect that..

[Blake]

Lol where's Avante with the see I told you so bads

[chunticakes]

Zoooooooooooom!!!!!

[Avante]

Here we go....

Are the Texans really ready to be a RF? Will the sad sad NYGiants lose another home game? Here we have the Texans on the road again vs a team getting points at home...again. Give me the sad sad Giants and the 2.5.

Miami at home coming off a loss vs a Chiefs team struggling, I'll lay the 4.5 with the Fish.

The system...

Cinncy - 7.5....on a roll!
Seattle -5...coming off a loss, now at home.
Niners -3....Niners coming off a loss vs a second string QB!
Indy -6.5....season defining game, a must win!

I need one more...hmmmmmm?

I think I found it....Carolina - 3.5. They are home again this week vs a team on the road again, big advantage. The Panthers are a great HF the Steelers a weak RD.

[Aztecfan03]

Here we go....

Are the Texans really ready to be a RF? Will the sad sad NYGiants lose another home game? Here we have the Texans on the road again vs a team getting points at home...again. Give me the sad sad Giants and the 2.5.

Miami at home coming off a loss vs a Chiefs team struggling, I'll lay the 4.5 with the Fish.

The system...

Cinncy - 7.5....on a roll!
Seattle -5...coming off a loss at home.
Niners -3....Niners coming off a loss vs a second string QB!
Indy -6.5....season defining game, a must win!

I need one more...hmmmmmm?

Just to be clear, You are picking the Giants and Dolphins along with those other 4?

[Avante]

Just to be clear, You are picking the Giants and Dolphins along with those other 4?

Yep!

[Aztecfan03]

I got Atlanta tomorrow night minus 6.5. Will play 330 to win 300.

Here's why...

Atlanta on Thursday night's are as good as it gets. 7-1 overall ATS and 5=1 as a HF. No team has done it better.

The Buc's are 1-4 on Thursday nights ATS. So I have a 16-3 trend favoring the Falcons.

What do ya think shorty?

So you are only down $50 now right? You might pull out of the hole this week.

[Avante]

So you are only down $50 now right? You might pull out of the hole this week.

Yep, and could kck myself in the ass for ignoring my system in week one....DUH!!!!!!!!

I should have played 550 last night, talk about a sure thing. But....if Ryan goes down, hmmm? So ya do have to be cool chasing your $$$$$$, different when you're up.

It does get easier as the season progresses.

The five teams in my system all are stronger ATS in the second half as playoff seatings come into play.

[Avante]

I'm bucking you, mother bucker.

Looks like ya got bucked off half pint, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway...

I like to find these guys early, remember this name....Paul Lucas. A 10.42 HS sprinter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XVuddeJ4zs

[Malik Hairston]

Here we go....

Are the Texans really ready to be a RF? Will the sad sad NYGiants lose another home game? Here we have the Texans on the road again vs a team getting points at home...again. Give me the sad sad Giants and the 2.5.

Miami at home coming off a loss vs a Chiefs team struggling, I'll lay the 4.5 with the Fish.

The system...

Cinncy - 7.5....on a roll!
Seattle -5...coming off a loss, now at home.
Niners -3....Niners coming off a loss vs a second string QB!
Indy -6.5....season defining game, a must win!

I need one more...hmmmmmm?

I think I found it....Carolina - 3.5. They are home again this week vs a team on the road again, big advantage. The Panthers are a great HF the Steelers a weak RD.

5-2 with the Carolina game remaining..great week for Avante(by his standards), tbh..

Good time to start tailing you, I knew you were due for a hot stretch, tbh..not sure if I'll do it again, though..

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao One halfway-decent week in three whole seasons, and you just know the "betting expert" will be thumping his chest....

[Malik Hairston]

Well, 5-3 now..not nearly as good, but still pretty decent, tbh..

[Avante]

Things start getting a lot easier as the season progresses. We start getting a true read on the teams, as does the linemakers.

Looking at potential plays for week 4...hmmmm?

Falcons at Minnesota who has a rookie QB starting his first game?

Baltimore at home vs a Panthers team with no running backs?

Chicago finally at home vs a Packer team on the road again with problems?

Indy the only "system" team I can back this week vs a weak Titans team. Indy 10-2-1 ATS vs the division with Luck.

Chargers at home vs a weak Jags team....hmmm? Will the Chargers take a week off? Jags plus the double digits???

Chiefs plus the ponts as a HD? The Pats not all that.

Why not just play against the Buc's until they show something?

***************************

After three weeks...(not that three weeks says it all)

Kelvin Benjamin is the real deal.

Kaepernick sucks!

Aaron Rodgers in a slump.

Eli is not done.

The best team in the AFC....Bengals!

Marshawn Lynch is still a beast.

Russell Wilson is playing better than most those top 5 QB's.

Andrew Luck belongs among the elite.

RGIII is done as a starting QB.

To the dumb kids out there, always give things some time..ok? To....YOU LOST A GAME YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!...hahaha!!!!

The Texans vs Giants was an easy play, hell no the Texans weren't that good and the Giants that bad, the Giants at home getting points vs a so so team....nay!!!

Slow down, ok?

[Avante]

Just a theory...

Ever notice once we start seeing these guys doing a shit load of commercials their game goes down? Peyton being the exception. Not talking NFL spots.

Look at..

Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
RGIII
Eli Manning
Colin Kaepernick
Cam Newton

None have played better since they started selling everything.

[Blake]

Well, 5-3 now..not nearly as good, but still pretty decent, tbh..

:cry one play away in the Denver game from being 4-4 :cry

[Blake]

:cry it gets easier as the season progresses :cry

[Aztecfan03]

:cry one play away in the Denver game from being 4-4 :cry

betting should be based on the score at the end of regulation.

[Avante]

:cry one play away in the Denver game from being 4-4 :cry

How is that system doing?

You went against me vs TB, got your ass kicked. You were going to go against my system, you'd be three down already.

Finally seeing my legit plays little fella, as you'll see a different deal.

[Avante]

:cry it gets easier as the season progresses :cry

Well lets see...

0-3 (losing two games by 3.5 points combined.
2-2
5-3

And it does get easier as you have already seen.

[chunticakes]

Well lets see...

0-3 (losing two games by 3.5 points combined.
2-2
5-3

And it does get easier as you have already seen.

Who do you have tonight? I like the Jets in this particular "spot". Why? Because there's a reason linemakers have the Jets -3. A reason unbeknownst to me. As history has shown us, betting against our gut works.

[Avante]

Let's look at tonights game.

Bears plus 3.5.

Both teams abour even when it comes to MNF and ATS.

The Bears vs ATS in back to back road games under Trestman...0-4..as far as covering both. The Jets as a HF under Rex Ryan are about even ATS.

There is nothing to latch onto there. No reason to play a side, so I won't.

[Blake]

How is that system doing?

You went against me vs TB, got your ass kicked. You were going to go against my system, you'd be three down already.

Finally seeing my legit plays little fella, as you'll see a different deal.

:lol :lol :lol

your system blows fatty.

[Avante]

Who do you have tonight? I like the Jets in this particular "spot". Why? Because there's a reason linemakers have the Jets -3. A reason unbeknownst to me. As history has shown us, betting against our gut works.

I wanted to play the game, but after lookng at both teams in this 'spot".....I couldn't find any reason to play a side. Neither is much in these Nationally televised games. Which is a legit factor.

I don't like any team playing that second consecutive road game which the Bears are doing. I don't like the Jets as a favorite. So.....no play for me.

[Avante]

:lol :lol :lol

your system blows fatty.

Smart move not taking me on vs that system shorty.

Dude, you're already looking stupid trying to.....Ill go against whatever you say. How stupid do you want to look?

[Blake]

Smart move not taking me on vs that system shorty.

I offered to take you on against your system, dumbfuck.

But when I brought up money, you tucked your dick between your legs and ran.

Pussy.

[Avante]

I offered to take you on against your system, dumbfuck.

But when I brought up money, you tucked your dick between your legs and ran.

Pussy.

I want you gone asshole, that bet you ran like a little whore. You'd be down three games already and that system is far stronger in the second half of the season.

Dude, I;m lying about 110-64 the last two seasons and plus three already? So that 110-64 is going to dramatically change in 2014, are you really that fucking stupid?

[Clipper Nation]

Well lets see...

0-3 (losing two games by 3.5 points combined.
2-2
5-3

And it does get easier as you have already seen.
:lol "Betting expert" who can supposedly "hit 70%" thumping his chest over one over-.500 week in three seasons

[Avante]

:lol "Betting expert" who can supposedly "hit 70%" thumping his chest over one over-.500 week in three seasons

So you really have't noticed the difference? Well you will little man and it's going to be fun watching your dumbass.

This is going to be fun, hell it already is, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how when ya win ya don't get the same amount of action as when ya lose...hmmm?

[Avante]

Anyone out there still not getting Russell Wilson? Is he everything I said he would be....well?

[AlexJones]

Current line is -180 that Avante finishes .500 or below in week 4.
Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483), want to do this bet? My 90 bucks for your 50. If you go over .500 again you get an extra 90. You must bet on at least 8 games though.

[Avante]

Current line is -180 that Avante finishes .500 or below in week 4.
Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483), want to do this bet? My 90 bucks for your 50. If you go over .500 again you get an extra 90. You must bet on at least 8 games though.

It doesn't work that way. Kids play that silliness.

I only play "spots" and it's for real $$$$.

I might not find 8 "spots' especially with so many of the good ATS teams on a bye week.

Dude, why this "need' to battle with me over this? Been at it a long time and usually hit around 60-65%. This will be no different. That hardest month is Sept. After that it does get a lot easier.

There a few punk kids here we jerked around for awhile, time to get real in 2014.

[chunticakes]

I'll throw in another $100 that Avante doesn't get past .500

[Avante]

I'll throw in another $100 that Avante doesn't get past .500

Are you paying any attention at all?

Lose a game because the Jets go for two.

Lose a game because the Steelers blow a 27-3 lead.

Play 330 on that Falcons game.

Take the Chargers plus the number vs the mighty Seahawks.

Take the 0-2 Giants plus the number vs the 2-0 Texans.

Talk about a system that is currently 6-3-2.

With just a little luck...9-6.

[Aztecfan03]

I only play "spots" and it's for real $$$$.


You kinda keep changing your tune on this though. "i only play spots" "but i'm always spouting my system" "won't bet blake real money playing your system only banishment"

[chunticakes]

Avante if you have so much faith in your system bet on it. Pick 8 games go 5-3 or better win $100. Simple.

[Clipper Nation]

Are you paying any attention at all?
Yes, we're paying attention to how you're still under .500 on the year, "betting expert" :lol

[Avante]

You kinda keep changing your tune on this though. "i only play spots" "but i'm always spouting my system" "won't bet blake real money playing your system only banishment"

I;m not changing anything. I played the system last week...3-1.

I also look for 'spots" like I did with the other 4 plays.

I don't want anything to do with Blake, the guy is an obvious freak.

[Avante]

Avante if you have so much faith in your system bet on it. Pick 8 games go 5-3 or better win $100. Simple.

My system only has five teams in it and three of them have byes this week.

[Avante]

Yes, we're paying attention to how you're still under .500 on the year, "betting expert" :lol

That's right "betting expert" that why I am now up $$$$ in one week.

I doubt you could look any more stupid that you already do, but watch what happens.

[spurraider21]

:lol up $20 in 3 weeks after losing over $8,000 last year

[Avante]

:lol up $20 in 3 weeks after losing over $8,000 last year

You honestly believe that? Dude, come on man.

Do I break down plays like a guy who loses at this? Don't be a fool..ok?

[Clipper Nation]

You honestly believe that? Dude, come on man.

Do I break down plays like a guy who loses at this? Don't be a fool..ok?
You pick games like a guy who loses at this, as evident from the past three seasons of under .500 betting :lol

[Avante]

You pick games like a guy who loses at this, as evident from the past three seasons of under .500 betting :lol

Lets see how 2014 goes, ok little guy? I can't believe you haven't already picked up on the difference. Just dumb I guess.

[Clipper Nation]

Lets see how 2014 goes, ok little guy? I can't believe you haven't already picked up on the difference. Just dumb I guess.

You are under .500 again so far in 2014, don't see much of a difference :lol

[Avante]

Ok this is how power points go.

You give ..

3 points for a road win
2 for a home win
1 for a road loss
0 for a home loss

Then ya take points scored/given up...a 65 -46 woukd be a plus 2 the 6 over the 4.

Then ya add it all up.

Sea 9
Ariz 12
Niners 5
St.Lou 1
GB 3
Chi 9
Det 9
Min 5
NO 6
Caro 6
Atl 10
TB 0
Philly 13
Wash 6
Dall 9
NYG 2
Den 8
SD 10
KC 5
Oak 1
Cincy 15
Balt 8
Pitt 8
Clev 4
NE 10
Buff 8
Mia 1
NYJ 3
Indy 7
Hous 9
Tenn 3
Jax 0

It doesn't mean much until about mid season, then you do see a real good example of who is really who. Just another tool to use.

[Avante]

You are under .500 again so far in 2014, don't see much of a difference :lol

You're so childish about things, why is that? You act dumb.

Watch how this goes half pint.

[spurraider21]

You honestly believe that? Dude, come on man.

Do I break down plays like a guy who loses at this? Don't be a fool..ok?
you broke down your plays last year and the year before as well.

[Avante]

you broke down your plays last year and the year before as well.

You really are a fool aren't ya?

I did think you were smarter than Blake/CN...nope!

[spurraider21]

You really are a fool aren't ya?

I did think you were smarter than Blake/CN...nope!
i dont care about the opinions of uneducated folks who double as degenerate gamblers

[Avante]

i dont care about the opinions of uneducated folks who double as degenerate gamblers

Neither do I, who does?

So how many games have the Raiders now lost in that eastern time zone?

[spurraider21]

Neither do I, who does?

So how many games have the Raiders now lost in that eastern time zone?
they're 2-0 against the spread in the east coast this year

[Avante]

they're 2-0 against the spread in the east coast this year

Wow~

Dude, who is talking ATS? I 'm talking about win/lose, ok little man?

But, if we look at that ATS in that 'spot' they are losers. There is a reason they get no respect from the linemakers.

[spurraider21]

Wow~

Dude, who is talking ATS? I 'm talking about win/lose, ok little man?

But, if we look at that ATS in that 'spot' they are losers.
we're talking about your poor gambling record, so ATS is what we are discussing. straight up picks are childs play. the raiders have a losing record in every time zone if you tally them up over the past decade

if you've bet on the raiders in the eastern time zone this season you'd be 2-0

[Avante]

we're talking about your poor gambling record, so ATS is what we are discussing. straight up picks are childs play. the raiders have a losing record in every time zone if you tally them up over the past decade

if you've bet on the raiders in the eastern time zone this season you'd be 2-0

You really don't get any of this at all do ya half pint? Totally lost, wow!

[Clipper Nation]

You're so childish about things, why is that? You act dumb.

Watch how this goes half pint.
It's childish to point out your record?

[Avante]

It's childish to point out your record?

Everything isn't about me/betting/my record....ok? I'll hit around 60-65% like I always do, no big deal.

[Aztecfan03]

You really don't get any of this at all do ya half pint? Totally lost, wow!

I think he does. It seems to be you that doesn't get it, lardass.

[spurraider21]

Everything is about me/betting/my record....ok? I'll hit around 60-65% like I always do, no big deal.

I was talking about me telling you how bad the Raiders are on the east coast and you..."that means nothing"...when yes it does mean something and it doesn't matter who the coach/players are.....ok?
:lmao

[Avante]

I think he does. It seems to be you that doesn't get it, lardass.

You don't even know what's being talked about little guy.

[Avante]

:lmao

So that $$$$$ making system is bogus?

3-0-2
1-3
3-1

Keep in mind a few games where they played each other.

[Aztecfan03]

You don't even know what's being talked about little guy.

I know exactly what is being talked about, lardass.

[spurraider21]

So that $$$$$ making system is bogus?

3-0-2
1-3
3-1

Keep in mind a few games where they played each other.
i was laughing because you said "like i always do" when you've always been below 50%

[Avante]

I know exactly what is being talked about, lardass.

You just sorta follow everyone else around don't ya little guy? A fucking leech!

[Chinook]

Picking straight up according to Vegas' predictions has a success rate of about .750 (last time I checked). Getting .600-.650 is actually pretty unlucky. I imagine that three seasons worth of such picks would be statistically significant.

[Avante]

i was laughing because you said "like i always do" when you've always been below 50%

My first year playing my actual $$$ plays here. I think it's pretty obvious things are already a lot different. There is no doubt where this is heading, you see it.

[Avante]

Picking straight up according to Vegas' predictions has a success rate of about .750 (last time I checked). Getting .600-.650 is actually pretty unlucky. I imagine that three seasons worth of such picks would be statistically significant.

The trick to winning picking straight up is play everyone at home other than the 4/5 really bad teams.

[spurraider21]

My first year playing my actual $$$ plays here. I think it's pretty obvious things are already a lot different. There is no doubt where this is heading, you see it.
it's your third year

[Chinook]

The trick to winning picking straight is play everyone at home other than the 4/5 really bad teams.

Are you sure that's a trick? There's a reason why Vegas gives an automatic -3 to the home team in most cases. According to some random Web site, home teams win 57 percent of the time (which is dominant given the large sample size of NFL games).

[Avante]

Look at the action I get with this, do I know human nature or what, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love it!

[Avante]

Are you sure that's a trick? There's a reason why Vegas gives an automatic -3 to the home team in most cases. According to some random Web site, home teams win 57 percent of the time (which is dominant given the large sample size of NFL games).

Are you talking....straight up?

After three weeks...

Just go against....Oak, TB, Jax. Tenn...on the road. Try...1-6.

[Chinook]

Are you talking....straight up?

Yeah. I was just pointing out that the spread very clearly knows that home teams tend to win straight up, so I wouldn't really call betting on them straight up a "trick".

[Avante]

it's your third year

So that system I talked about is bogus?