***** The Official 2014 Avante Football Thread ***** [Archive] - Page 5

Avante

10-13-2014, 02:45 AM

your trends are about as helpful as a magic 8 ball. they mean nothing, but you like to claim victory when it works

NE has owned Buffalo going 8-2 ATS the last 10.

The Bucs were 0-6 before a bye.

The Panthers were 9-2 the last two seasons as a RD.

Chicago 5-2ATS vs Atlanta.

Jax 5-1 ATS the last 6 vs Tenn

Oakland 7-3ATS the last 10 vs SD.

Eagles 8-3ATS last 11 vs Giants

How did those trends go?

You really do need to learn about ATS gambling, it's all about angles/stats/trends.

NFL Betting Trends for Monday, Oct. 13thSan Francisco at St Louis, 8:30 ET
San Francisco: 10-2 ATS as a road favorite of 7 points or less
St Louis: 7-0 OVER after having lost 3 out of their last 4 games

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 03:10 AM

keep trusting the magic 8ball

Malik Hairston

10-13-2014, 03:12 AM

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 03:13 AM

Avante

10-13-2014, 03:22 AM

:lol Avante logic:

- If I learn how to play Blackjack correctly, I'll never lose, because I know the optimal strategy

- If my team only shoots from the more efficient shot locations on the court in basketball, we will never lose

- If I learn and use proper running form, I'll be faster than my opponent

Anybody can go on a website and read trends:lol..are you really stupid enough to believe Vegas doesn't factor them?..are you really stupid enough to believe that you have an edge because you read trends that anybody else can also read?:lol..

There's a reason why your betting record has been embarrassing the past few years, tbh..

Are you really stupid enought to believe that bullshit you just threw up? And no Vegas doesn't factor in shit ya fucking moron.

If all you ever played was the Pats vs Buffalo regardless of the number you'd have gone 15-6 since 2004. How can that be?

If you'd have taken Seattle as a home favorite since RW showed up.....12-5.

And I could go on and on and on. Tons and tons of plays just like those.

What it is is you just don't know anything about this stuff, yep...ignorant.

Today the lowly Raiders who haven't won a game, hung tight with a Charger team that had beat Seattle........Raiders were 7-3ATS in the last 10 vs Chargers.

Avante

10-13-2014, 03:40 AM

Yep, that's it for the Seahawks and Russell Wilson, they lost a game. Wilson threw an INT and the Seahawks didn't have that same...grrrrrrrrr. Yep anytime we see any team lose ...a...game and look bad in doing it, they are finished....done.

The Cowboys are amazing, who can beat them, yep....nobody!!!!!! Any time a team looks that good on the road they are amazing. Yep...Superbowl bound!!!!!!!!!

Why even bother with the other 11 weeks, we have it all figured out right now.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's 2013, the Kansas City Chiefs are 9-0,..WOW! They ended up...11-5.

It's 2004 the Packers are 1-4, they suck! Would end up...10-6 and make the playoffs.

At what point do you midgets figure this stuff out? You really haven't moticed how one week it's....STUDS!!!!!...the next....what happened? Remember how poor Tom Brady and those sorry Patriots were done.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow down little people.

The Giants totally sucked in 2013, while the Eagles made the playoffs, yet the Giants beat them 15-7 at Philly. What did we see tonight? And the Giants had a better record this time around.

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 03:47 AM

its been 2 years and 6 weeks, and theres been an indisputable trend of you picking below .500

Avante

10-13-2014, 03:50 AM

its been 2 years and 6 weeks, and theres been an indisputable trend of you picking below .500

It's been six weeks of my actual $$$$ plays that I use. With 11 weeks to go and the playoffs there is no doubt of any kind I'll hit my 60=65%. Why you act like a retarded dummy over this...????

Even you must know it does get easier as teams realize they are out of it while others are in the playoff hunt. We have a half dozen teams or so that are great ATS in the second half of a season lately, others that totally suck.

The Lions have gone....3-13 ATS in the second half of the last two seasons. While the Broncos have gone 12-4, hmmmm?

Clipper Nation

10-13-2014, 09:29 AM

It's been six weeks of my actual $$$$ plays that I use.
:lol More lies and excuses
:lol Old Fat-Gut

Blake

10-13-2014, 10:41 AM

Even you must know it does get easier as teams realize they are out of it while others are in the playoff hunt.

:cry after week 16 it gets easier :cry

chunticakes

10-13-2014, 11:03 AM

Nothing to see here, ol' Avante being the forum jizz rag as per the par.

KoolAid Mans Brother

10-13-2014, 11:12 AM

:lmao Another shitty week of picking
:lmao Still under .500 on the season
:lmao Betting Expert
:lmao NFL Historian
:lmao "It gets easier"
:lmao almost 2 and a half seasons of horrible picking
:lmao Using "stats and trends" instead of common sense
:lmao This "spot"
:lmao Thinking that betting websites and magazines makes you an expert
:lmao sucking Russel Wilson's cock while claiming to be a 49ers fan

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 11:59 AM

Avante picked an nfl game for tonight

hes 17-19 in that "spot"

benefactor

10-13-2014, 12:15 PM

Blake

10-14-2014, 10:04 AM

Avante

10-14-2014, 10:40 AM

Easy win last night and went exactly as the trends said it would. So...18-19 and it gets easier once the playoff positioning becomes more and more a factor.

Pats vs Jets Thursday night...hmmmmm?

Avante

10-14-2014, 10:55 AM

Anyone still think it's all about throwing the ball? Why are the Cowboys now in the mix? Could it be a solid 0 line and a stud running game? The defending SB champs do what. yep.....play D and....run the ball! The Niners run the ball and play D. That's what has always won in football, just ask those old Packer teams, the 85 Bears. When did the Broncos start winning the SB, it was when Terrell Davis showed up.

When you can run the ball you wear down the D, you turn it over less, you are in third and long less and you can close out games. You want to run the ball and stuff the run and win ther turn over battle, that is what wins at all levels of the game.

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 10:58 AM

Nobody said those things.

Way to beat up on the strawman.

Anyone still think it's all about throwing the ball? Why are the Cowboys now in the mix? Could it be a solid 0 line and a stud running game? The defending SB champs do what. yep.....play D and....run the ball! The Niners run the ball and play D. That's what has always won in football, just ask those old Packer teams, the 85 Bears. When did the Broncos start winning the SB, it was when Terrell Davis showed up.

When you can run the ball you wear down the D, you turn it over less, you are in third and long less and you can close out games. You want to run the ball and stuff the run and win ther turn over battle, that is what wins at all levels of the game.

Hey look another one.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:00 AM

Hey look another one.

As usual you make no sense.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:04 AM

As usual you make no sense.

it makes no sense to you because you're unintelligent.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:09 AM

it makes no sense to you because you're unintelligent.

Aren't you the moron who said...

Texas Tech will beat WV by two td's.....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a fucking idiot!

Hey stupid remember what I said about ...The System? You simply back Indy/Den/Niners/Sea/Cincy every week and you said that was bogus?

Right now 17-10
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:14 AM

Aren't you the moron who said...

Texas Tech will beat WV by two td's.....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a fucking idiot!

No I didn't say that.

Your reading comprehension skills are almost as bad as your gambling skills.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:17 AM

No I didn't say that.

Your reading comprehension skills are almost as bad as your gambling skills.

Sure ya did ya little shit.

When I'm sittiing at 60-65% at the end of this season we'll talk about my gambling skills.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:21 AM

No I didn't say that.

Your reading comprehension skills are almost as bad as your gambling skills.

:lol Ponder
:lol Cassel
:lol Bridgewater

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:22 AM

Sorry, man. Couldn't resist.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:27 AM

Sure ya did ya little shit.

No I didn't ya fat ape. You're illiterate.

When I'm sittiing at 60-65% at the end of this season we'll talk about my gambling skills.

Haaaaaahagagagahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahahah ahshshsshaushshahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:32 AM

No I didn't ya fat ape. You're illiterate.

Haaaaaahagagagahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahahah ahshshsshaushshahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Fucking liar, that's exactly what you said. Not just a prick but a lying prick.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:33 AM

In all my years of watching pro football I have never seen a team with a worst pass rush than the Rams. Terrible!

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:33 AM

Is hoping to hit 60-65% worth bragging about?

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:37 AM

Fucking liar, that's exactly what you said. Not just a prick but a lying prick.

No it's not.

you're either lying or too stupid to understand basic English grammar.

I'll go with the second option, imo.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:40 AM

Is hoping to hit 60-65% worth bragging about?

Obviously you know nothing about this either.

It's not easy predicting the outcome of "pro" football games, this is not LSU vs Savannah State. In the pros all it takles to even things out is a couple turnovers/a big special teams play and it's Seahawks 31 Raiders 21 but the Seahawks were 12 pont favorites.

If you can hit 60-65% with some money management (doubling bets) you will be very successful at this. Anyone saying they hit 75% after an NFL season is lying.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:41 AM

No it's not.

you're either lying or too stupid to understand basic English grammar.

I'll go with the second option, imo.

So you didn't say TT will beat WV by two tds...right?

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:43 AM

Obviously you know nothing about this either.

It's not easy predicting the outcome of "pro" football games, this is not LSU vs Savannah State. In the pros all it takles to even things out is a couple turnovers/a big special teams play and it's Seahawks 31 Raiders 21 but the Seahawks were 12 pont favorites.

If you can hit 60-65% with some money management (doubling bets) you will be very successful at this. Anyone saying they hit 75% after an NFL season is lying.

yeah? You are bragging about the possibility of hoping to hit 60-65%. In reality you would be happy with 51%.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:43 AM

Is hoping to hit 60-65% worth bragging about?

At one point he bragged about 70%......now it's 60.

Would it surprise anyone if he started bragging about hitting 50.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:44 AM

At one point he bragged about 70%......now it's 60.

Would it surprise anyone if he started bragging about hitting 49%

According to Avante... Avante is a liar.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:44 AM

yeah? You are bragging about the possibility of hoping to hit 60-65%. In reality you would be happy with 51%.

I haven't failed to hit better than 60% in the last 15 years. This year will be no different as you will see. I fucked around with the dummies here for a couple years but not this year.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:46 AM

So you didn't say TT will beat WV by two tds...right?

Right. Again: i didn't say that, you retarded illiterate old fuck.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:46 AM

I haven't failed to hit better than 60% in the last 15 years. This year will be no different as you will see. I fucked around with the dummies here for a couple years but not this year.

There is no evidence to back that claim.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:46 AM

I haven't failed to hit better than 60% in the last 15 years. This year will be no different as you will see. I fucked around with the dummies here for a couple years but not this year.

Old fat pathetic liar desperate for attention and confirmation.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:46 AM

At one point he bragged about 70%......now it's 60.

Would it surprise anyone if he started bragging about hitting 50.

Only a dummy like you thinks anyone hits 70%, that's why I have so much fun with your dumbass. You are so stupid it's comical.

Blake

10-14-2014, 11:48 AM

Only a dummy like you thinks anyone hits 70%, that's why I have so much fun with your dumbass. You are so stupid it's comical.

Right. You lied about hitting 70%.

chronic liars lie. It's what you do.

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:48 AM

Old fat liar.

Where was I by this time the last two seasons, yep....buried. You really haven't noticed that?

I noticed you ignored my system which is 17-10 right now, still thinks it's bogus?

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:50 AM

Right. You lied about hitting 70%.

chronic liars lie. It's what you do.

I threw out a number nodody hits to see just how dumb you really are, you gobbled it up just like I knew your dumbass would, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Avante

10-14-2014, 11:53 AM

There is no evidence to back that claim.

That's what this season is all about and why I decided to play my actual $$$$ plays. Obviously the dummies over react to everything, they don't have enought common sense to realize it gets easier as the season progresses.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 11:57 AM

That's what this season is all about and why I decided to play my actual $$$$ plays. Obviously the dummies over react to everything, they don't have enought common sense to realize it gets easier as the season progresses.

Are you saying there won't be any upsets at the end of the season?

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:02 PM

Are you saying there won't be any upsets at the end of the season?

I;m saying this....

Those teams with stud QB's like, GB, Den, Indy, NE, Sea, SD...stand a far better chance vs the ATS with playoff spots on the line than teams without that caliber of QB. You put your $$$$ on those QB's and you will win far far more than you lose, it is a time tested system. Far far stronger in the second half of any season as you'll see.

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 12:03 PM

I;m saying this....

Those teams with stud QB's like, GB, Den, Indy, NE, Sea, SD...stand a far better chance vs the ATS with playoff spots on the line than teams without that caliber of QB. You put your $$$$ on those QB's and you will win far far more than you lose, it is a time tested system. Far far stronger in the second half of any season as you'll see.
Oakland is 3-2 ATS, with covers against the Patriots and Chargers, teams with elite QB's. what does that say about the caliber of QB in oakland? :hat

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:03 PM

QB's? I thought it was all about the running game.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:09 PM

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:13 PM

Oakland is 3-2 ATS, with covers against the Patriots and Chargers, teams with elite QB's. what does that say about the caliber of QB in oakland? :hat

Do this, keep playing the Raiders plus the points every week for the next two seasons ....ok? Since 2012 they have gone....15-18-2 ATS.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:15 PM

QB's? I thought it was all about the running game.

Wow!

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 12:21 PM

Do this, keep playing the Raiders plus the points every week for the next two seasons ....ok? Since 2012 they have gone....15-18-2 ATS.
the raiders roster has had massive turnover from 2013 to 2014, let alone 2012. the comparison fails

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:21 PM

Let's break down one of plays this week, show you how it's done.

Baltimore vs Atlanta

Since 2013 the Falcons have won...1...road game. In that same period of time the Ravens have lost ...2...home games. Classic great home team vs terrible road team..."spot".

Now add the Ravens are a stellar 8-1 ATS vs the Falcons. 4-0 at home.

This should be easy.

:lol that's pretty basic analysis. I would pick the Falcons just because you pick the Ravens. In fact, I think if I picked the opposite on gimme games of you for the rest of the season, I would have a higher % than you.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:22 PM

Wow!

Is that not what you said?

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 12:24 PM

Now add the Ravens are a stellar 8-1 ATS vs the Falcons. 4-0 at home.
WOW. you are actually using THESE old games as a reason to pick the Ravens? plus their games against them as the cleveland browns? WOWWWW.

i can just as easily say "the ravens haven't beaten the falcons since 2006." This is a great "spot" to pick the falcons. your historic trends are moronic

Boxscore finder: Atlanta Falcons vs Baltimore Ravens

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October 3, 1999
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24
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Baltimore Ravens (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2010.htm)
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Avante

10-14-2014, 12:29 PM

Is that not what you said?

Not even close!

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 12:32 PM

The Old Browns lost to the Falcons by 17 in 1971, clearly this means the Ravens will lose by 17 to the Falcons. #AvanteLogic

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:33 PM

I threw out a number nodody hits to see just how dumb you really are, you gobbled it up just like I knew your dumbass would, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

yeah, that's called a lie.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:33 PM

WOW. you are actually using THESE old games as a reason to pick the Ravens? plus their games against them as the cleveland browns? WOWWWW.

i can just as easily say "the ravens haven't beaten the falcons since 2006." This is a great "spot" to pick the falcons. your historic trends are moronic

Boxscore finder: Atlanta Falcons vs Baltimore Ravens

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The Ravens have won 8 of their last 12 games, the Falcons have won 4. The Ravens score a 31 on a system I use, the Falcons at 13. NOW.... ya add that above trend. It's a combo of a lot of things all pointing towards the Ravens in this "spot". There is nothing at all favoring the Falcons.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:35 PM

Not even close!

Pretty close.

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 12:35 PM

The Ravens have won 8 of their last 12 games, the Falcons have won 4. The Ravens score a 31 on a system I use, the FAalcons at 13. NOW.... ya add that above trend. It's a combo of a lot of things all pointing towards the Ravens in this "spot". There is nothing at all favoring the Falcons.
look. if you want to pick the ravens because right now you think they're a mismatch for the struggling falcons, thats fine. thats a logical reason

when you start saying "they are 8-1 against the falcons" when they have played 4 times in the last 15 years, and only once since 2006, it just sounds dumb.

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:36 PM

I noticed you ignored my system which is 17-10 right now, still thinks it's bogus?

you're not 17-10 so apparently you think it's bogus.

You're retarded.

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:37 PM

WOW. you are actually using THESE old games as a reason to pick the Ravens? plus their games against them as the cleveland browns? WOWWWW.

i can just as easily say "the ravens haven't beaten the falcons since 2006." This is a great "spot" to pick the falcons. your historic trends are moronic

Boxscore finder: Atlanta Falcons vs Baltimore Ravens

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Sun
October 3, 1999
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Atlanta Falcons (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/1999.htm)

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24
boxscore (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200611190rav.htm)

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Atlanta Falcons (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/2010.htm)

Baltimore Ravens (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2010.htm)
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boxscore (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201011110atl.htm)

Lol

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:38 PM

yeah, that's called a lie.

Blake....anytime I get a freak like you following me around like you do I fuck with them, that's what the other couple years of my plays here were all about. Watching how you act over this is fucking funny. You are a total freak guy and we all laugh our ass off at you.

This year it's fuck Blake, time to get serious.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:40 PM

you're not 17-10 so apparently you think it's bogus.

You're retarded.

You were going to go against that system remember, you said it was bullshit. Want to go against it starting right now?

I will be using it in the second half of the season where it's really strong.

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 12:42 PM

You were going to go against that system remember, you said it was bullshit. Want to go against it starting right now?

I will be using it in the second half of the season where it's really strong.
:lol More lies, excuses, and desperate stalling.... just admit that you suck at this....

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:44 PM

look. if you want to pick the ravens because right now you think they're a mismatch for the struggling falcons, thats fine. thats a logical reason

when you start saying "they are 8-1 against the falcons" when they have played 4 times in the last 15 years, and only once since 2006, it just sounds dumb.

Why do I even know that stuff at all? Could it be I look for every angle/trend/stat available? You see something wrong with that?

The Niners have never lost a Monday night game in the Harbaugh era, they were 10-1 vs their division on MNF. The Rams had lost 6 in a row on MNF. You saw how that went.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:46 PM

:lol More lies, excuses, and desperate stalling.... just admit that you suck at this....

18-19 after the hardest part of the season is sucking at this? Nobody should be as dumb as you are.

Hey stupid why not actually see how I do in the next....ELEVEN...weeks, ok?

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:46 PM

2012:

This year it's fuck Blake, time to get serious.

2013:

This year it's fuck Blake, time to get serious.

2014:

This year it's fuck Blake, time to get serious.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:46 PM

It's pretty simple. Bet against the blowhard, know nothing... Win every time.

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 12:47 PM

18-19 after the hardest part of the season is sucking at this? Nobody should be as dumb as you are.
Being under .500 for 2.5 seasons is "sucking at this" for a self-proclaimed betting expert....

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:47 PM

You were going to go against that system remember, you said it was bullshit. Want to go against it starting right now?

I will be using it in the second half of the season where it's really strong.

I was going to go against you using whatever system you wanted to, dumbass.

If you hadn't of pussied out when I brought real money into the deal, I'd be winning.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:48 PM

It's pretty simple. Bet against the blowhard, know nothing... Win every time.

Ok man lets do that starting this week, ok? You game?

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:48 PM

I was going to go against you using whatever system you wanted to, dumbass.

If you hadn't of pussied out when I brought real money into the deal, I'd be winning.

You'd be down 7 stupid, what you can't read?

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:49 PM

Ok man lets do that starting this week, ok? You game?

Nobody even has to bet you directly.

They just take your pick and go opposite with their own bookie

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:50 PM

You'd be down 7 stupid, what you can't read?

You're down 1 stupid.

You can't read.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:50 PM

Ok man lets do that starting this week, ok? You game?

Sure I'll bet against you on 50/50 games. I'm not taking the Jets over the Pats obviously.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:50 PM

Being under .500 for 2.5 seasons is "sucking at this" for a self-proclaimed betting expert....

Why not see where I end up in 2014, ok?

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:51 PM

Sure I'll bet against you on 50/50 games. I'm not taking the Jets over the Pats obviously.

Dude, who in the fuck plays real $$$ on 50/50 games, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:52 PM

Why not see where I end up in 2012 ok?

Why not see where I end up in 2013, ok?

Why not see where I end up in 2014, ok?

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:52 PM

Dude, who in the fuck plays real $$$ on 50/50 games, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just talking about picking game winners against your system, you moron. You don't play real $$$ on shit. That's been well established.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:52 PM

You're down 1 stupid.

You can't read.

I'l go slow...

I mentioned a system...ok ya with me? That system is 17-10 right now...ok stupid?

Damn you're dumb.

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 12:53 PM

Why not see where I end up in 2014, ok?
:lol NOW you want to ignore past trends, funny how that works....

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:54 PM

I'm just talking about picking game winners against your system, you moron.

Do you know anything at all about this stuff, or is it like music, you know nothing?

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:54 PM

I'l go slow...

I mentioned a system...ok ya with me? That system is 17-10 right now...ok stupid?

Damn you're dumb.

I'll type again:

the bet was against you, not your system that you're not using.

Fuck you're retarded.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:54 PM

Do you know anything at all about this stuff, or is it like music, you know nothing?

So, you don't want to do it?

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:55 PM

:lol NOW you want to ignore past trends, funny how that works....

I want to talk about my legit $$$ plays not me fucking around with Blake plays.

Blake

10-14-2014, 12:56 PM

I want to talk about my legit $$$ plays not me fucking around with Blake plays.

That doesn't make any sense

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:57 PM

I want to talk about my legit $$$ plays not me fucking around with Blake plays.

There's no difference and you can't prove otherwise. There's no such thing as "fucking around with Blake" plays.

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:57 PM

So, you don't want to do it?

I get the impression you don't know shit about football and are just fucking around.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:58 PM

I'll type again:

the bet was against you, not your system that you're not using.

Fuck you're retarded.

There's no difference.

:lol "system"

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 12:59 PM

I want to talk about my legit $$$ plays not me fucking around with Blake plays.
They're all your legit plays, your overinflated ego just can't handle being wrong about anything so you have to make excuses....

Avante

10-14-2014, 12:59 PM

There's no difference and you can't prove otherwise. There's no such thing as "fucking around with Blake" plays.

I don't like to give out real $$$ plays on the internet, so I/Mason jacked around with the resident moron Blake for awhile. The dummy is funny.

Not this season.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 12:59 PM

I get the impression you don't know shit about football and are just fucking around.

So, you should be jumping at this opportunity.

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 01:00 PM

I don't like to give out real $$$ plays on the internet, so I/Mason jacked around with the resident moron Blake for awhile. The dummy is funny.

Not this season.
^ Once again lying and making excuses for your shit picks ^

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:00 PM

They're all your legit plays, your overinflated ego just can't handle being wrong about anything so you have to make excuses....

So how come I;'m way ahead of where I was after 6 weeks now?

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:01 PM

So, you should be jumping at this opportunity.

What exactly are you wanting to do?

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:01 PM

I don't like to give out real $$$ plays on the internet, so I/Mason jacked around with the resident moron Blake for awhile. The dummy is funny.

Not this season.

That is completely implausible. You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right?

I'm going to make myself look like an imbecile on St. That'll show Blake! Ha! Ha! Ha!

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 01:01 PM

Why do I even know that stuff at all? Could it be I look for every angle/trend/stat available? You see something wrong with that?
yes. some of the trends/stats are irrelevant, like your Ravens are 8-1 vs Falcons... those sorts of trends, if followed, can cause you to make the wrong pick in an otherwise obvious matchup.

The Niners have never lost a Monday night game in the Harbaugh era, they were 10-1 vs their division on MNF. The Rams had lost 6 in a row on MNF. You saw how that went.
you really shouldn't need trends to decipher a game between the niners and the rams with austin davis. i made the same pick because is saw a mismatch.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:01 PM

^ Once again lying and making excuses for your shit picks ^

Wrong as usual.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:03 PM

That is completely implausible. You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right?

We had fun with it.

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 01:04 PM

So how come I;'m way ahead of where I was after 6 weeks now?
You're under .500 as usual, just like you were the past two years.... it really doesn't matter how far under .500 you are, it's still embarrassing for a so-called betting expert who claims to hit 60-70% regularly....

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:04 PM

What exactly are you wanting to do?

You pick 3-5 games per week that are close match-ups and I'll pick
against you.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:05 PM

yes. some of the trends/stats are irrelevant, like your Ravens are 8-1 vs Falcons... those sorts of trends, if followed, can cause you to make the wrong pick in an otherwise obvious matchup.

you really shouldn't need trends to decipher a game between the niners and the rams with austin davis. i made the same pick because is saw a mismatch.

Do I really need to go back to week one of this season and show you all the plays that went exactly as the trends said they would?

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:07 PM

We had fun with it.

No, you didn't. You got exposed as a fraud and came up with the lamest excuse I've ever heard to cover for it.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:07 PM

You pick 3-5 games per week that are close match-ups and I'll pick
against you.

Dude, I play real $$$ here, ok? I'm not looking for close anythings. Beating a know nothing like you means little compared to winning $$$$.

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 01:07 PM

Do I really need to go back to week one of this season and show you all the plays that went exactly as the trends said they would?
you can look back as recently as sunday night, or look at how youve taken pittsburgh twice against cleveland because of trends.

its possible that historic trends might occasionally line up with the correct pick, but picking based on games from 2-3-4+ years ago is dumb

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:09 PM

No, you didn't. You got exposed as a fraud and came up with the lamest excuse I've ever heard to cover for it.

Oh yes we did and it was funny, hahahaha!!!!!!!

What fraud can break down am ATS play like I can?

Go ahead give me any game this week and I'll totally give you the right side ATS. Go ahead try me.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:09 PM

Dude, I play real $$$ here, ok? I'm not looking for close anythings. Beating a know nothing like you means little compared to winning $$$$.

You already said you won't bet $$$ on the internet, dummy. I'm just talking about picking against you. You won't do it though because you're a fraud. See if Mason wants to. Maybe he isn't a bitch.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:11 PM

you can look back as recently as sunday night, or look at how youve taken pittsburgh twice against cleveland because of trends.

its possible that historic trends might occasionally line up with the correct pick, but picking based on games from 2-3-4+ years ago is dumb

And if you'd played that Pitt/Cleve trend since 2004 how much $$$$ would you have won?

If you simply played against the Raidrers in the ETZ how much would you have won over the last decade?

Well?

You obviously don't understand anything about this, yep...ignorant!

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:13 PM

You already said you won't bet $$$ on the internet, dummy. I'm just talking about picking against you. You won't do it though because you're a fraud. See if Mason wants to. Maybe he isn't a bitch.

Ok man I have the Ravens minus whatever the number is, you have the Falcons...ok?

Blake

10-14-2014, 01:14 PM

Oh yes we did and it was funny, hahahaha!!!!!!!

What fraud can break down am ATS play like I can?

Go ahead give me any game this week and I'll totally give you the right side ATS. Go ahead try me.

pathetic

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:15 PM

Ok man I have the Ravens minus whatever the number is, you have the Falcons...ok?

Deal.

Blake

10-14-2014, 01:16 PM

Ok man I have the Ravens minus whatever the number is, you have the Falcons...ok?

Yahoo shows Ravens -7.

Ok I'm putting $50 on the Falcons +7.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:17 PM

pathetic

Anytime I see a guy like you who follows me around I fuck with them, yep...entertaining. Look at how you act little guym hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Who wouldn't have fun laughing at a freak like you? We had a ball.

spurraider21

10-14-2014, 01:20 PM

And if you'd played that Pitt/Cleve trend since 2004 how much $$$$ would you have won?

If you simply played against the Raidrers in the ETZ how much would you have won over the last decade?

Well?

You obviously don't understand anything about this, yep...ignorant!
for much of the decade pittsburgh was a good team and a playoff team, while the browns were inept. during those years, picking pitt was obvious. we also know pittsburgh has fallen off, so its no longer such a slam dunk, regardless of what they did in fucking 2005 or somethin

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:22 PM

Yahoo shows Ravens -7.

Ok I'm putting $50 on the Falcons +7.

So the fact the Falcons are one of the worst road teams over the last two seasons means nothing....right? Forget the fact the Ravens are a great home team.....right?

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:25 PM

So the fact the Falcons are one of the worst road teams over the last two seasons means nothing....right? Forget the fact the Ravens are a great home team.....right?

Right.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:28 PM

for much of the decade pittsburgh was a good team and a playoff team, while the browns were inept. during those years, picking pitt was obvious. we also know pittsburgh has fallen off, so its no longer such a slam dunk, regardless of what they did in fucking 2005 or somethin

Pitt was 8-8 in 2013 but 2-0ATS vs Cleveland. Ok we...FINALLY...saw the death of a trend. But...look at how much $$$$ you won before it died.

Don't act like a rookie, ok? Don't get too caught up in..."one"..game or a couple, look at the big picture/history. Piit had beaten Cleveland 18-1. Now they are 18-2......hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Ride a strong trend until it does die, it's all about....how much did you win before it finally died.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:29 PM

Right.

So you don't know shit about this stuff.....right?

Blake

10-14-2014, 01:31 PM

Anytime I see a guy like you who follows me around I fuck with them, yep...entertaining. Look at how you act little guym hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Who wouldn't have fun laughing at a freak like you? We had a ball.

2012 Mason thrown under bus
2013 Mason thrown under bus
2014 Mason thrown under bus

Blake

10-14-2014, 01:33 PM

So the fact the Falcons are one of the worst road teams over the last two seasons means nothing....right? Forget the fact the Ravens are a great home team.....right?

The fact that you picked the Ravens means I'll be picking the Falcons.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:34 PM

So you don't know shit about this stuff.....right?

I'm not saying I do. I'm just willing to bet against you... and/or Mason. Whatever.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:34 PM

Over the last two prior seasons or since Peyton/Luck/RW arrived those three teams had gone...69-37ATS.

So who says they won't come close to that 34-14ATSin 2014?

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:36 PM

I'm not saying I do. I'm just willing to bet against you... and/or Mason. Whatever.

Well lets make it interesting then, ok?

We'll play one game a week, if I win you stay out of my threads, ya see you're boring. If you win I stay out of yours, deal? Wait a minute, you don't have any, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blake

10-14-2014, 01:40 PM

We had fun with it.

http://www.masonsminute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Under-the-bus.png

daaaaaaad

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:40 PM

Well lets make it interesting then, ok?

We'll play one game a week, if I win you stay out of my threads, ya see you're boring. If you win I stay out of yours, deal? Wait a minute, you don't have any, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will never stay out of your threads.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:47 PM

I will never stay out of your threads.

Well then we have no game. I need to win something.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:49 PM

Well then we have no game. I need to win something.

The deal is done. Ravens vs. Falcons. I'm taking Atlanta. Don't try to weasel out now.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:51 PM

So what does this tell us?

http://www.nfl.com/standings

The Ravens are 2-1 at home and a plus.....77, the Falcons are 0-3 on the road and minus....6.

Only a rookie wouldn't see the obvous play there.

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:52 PM

The deal is done. Ravens vs. Falcons. I'm taking Atlanta. Don't try to weasel out now.

Nope! I don't bet with cowards. We either make the deal I mentioned or no deal. I don't deal with cowards.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:53 PM

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:55 PM

It's going to be humiliating for you to lose to a rookie.

Dude, are you really as dumb as you act? Don't you know anything at all about this?

The Falcons are terrible on the road, the Ravens are great at home. The Falcons couldn't even beat a rookie QB on the road....hahahaha!!!!!!!

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:56 PM

Nope! I don't bet with cowards. We either make the deal I mentioned or no deal. I don't deal with cowards.

Sorry, bud. The deal is done.

:cry "stay out of my threads" :cry

You are the coward.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 01:57 PM

Dude, are you really as dumb as you act? Don't you know anything at all about this?

The Falcons are terrible on the road, the Ravens are great at home.

So, you feel supremely confident with our wager then?

Avante

10-14-2014, 01:59 PM

Sorry, bud. The deal is done.

:cry "stay out of my threads" :cry

You are the coward.

Ok here's the deal. After I win this play I will be done with you unless you take me up on the deal I mentioned....got it?

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:00 PM

So, you feel supremely confident with our wager then?

A team that plays great at home vs a team that has lost all but one road game in two years.....yep, confident!

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 02:00 PM

Ok here's the deal. After I win this play I will be done with you unless you take me up on the deal I mentioned....got it?

How is that a good deal for me? What do I get if I win? You are terrible at this.

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:06 PM

How is that a good deal for me? What do I get if I win? You are terrible at this.

Who cares about you? This is all about me., what you want/need is a non factor.

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:15 PM

I always get a kick out of...."trends/spots"...mean nothing, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

The Niners were 15-5 the last 10 years as a RF on MNF, now they are 16-5. The Rams were 3-5 as a HD, now 3-6.

And that sort of thing goes on and on.....

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:42 PM

The Giants coming off an embarrashing loss now at Dallas who are coming off a huge win...hmmmmmmm? And the Giants are heading into a bye week.

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:51 PM

Let's go back to the first three weeks

Niners suck...1-2, now 4-2

Indy...1-2, now 4-2

Cleve...1-2, now 3-3

Buff...2-1, now 3-3

Atl...2-1, now 2-4

Slow down people.

Blake

10-14-2014, 02:52 PM

It's going to be humiliating for you to lose to a rookie.

Naw. He'll try to justify his loss.

Blake

10-14-2014, 02:53 PM

Let's go back to the first three weeks

Niners suck...1-2, now 4-2

Indy...1-2, now 4-2

Cleve...1-2, now 3-3

Buff...2-1, now 3-3

Atl...2-1, now 2-4

Slow down people.

you're 18-19. You suck and you'd better hurry if you're gonna hit 65%.

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:55 PM

Naw. He'll try to justify his loss.

So you really see a team as bad as the Falcons are on the road going into Baltimore who are great as HF's and hanging within 7....right? The fact the Falcons have given up 170 points so far to just 87 for the Ravens means nothing....right?

Avante

10-14-2014, 02:57 PM

you're 18-19. You suck and you'd better hurry if you're gonna hit 65%.

That right there pretty much says it all about you, yep....stupid! Dummy, we have how many games left?

Blake

10-14-2014, 02:59 PM

2012

That right there pretty much says it all about you, yep....stupid! Dummy, we have how many games left?

2013

That right there pretty much says it all about you, yep....stupid! Dummy, we have how many games left?

2014

That right there pretty much says it all about you, yep....stupid! Dummy, we have how many games left?

Avante

10-14-2014, 03:09 PM

2012

2013

2014

Ok dummy back on ignore, you are simply too dumb/boring to be bothered with, see ya next year.

Avante

10-14-2014, 04:12 PM

Realistic look at my Niners in 2014...

4-2

lose at Denver
beat Rams
beat at Saints
beat at Giants....could lose one of these
beat Redskins
beat Seahawks
beat Raiders
lose at Seahawks
beat Chargers
beat Cards

Will lose one of those I gave them so...11-5 Keep in mind both Smith/Bowman will be back around Seahawks time. Smith sooner.

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 04:38 PM

Aren't you the moron who said...

Texas Tech will beat WV by two td's.....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a fucking idiot!

Hey stupid remember what I said about ...The System? You simply back Indy/Den/Niners/Sea/Cincy every week and you said that was bogus?

Right now 17-10
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

Didn't you drop the Niners from your "system" a few weeks ago?

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 04:44 PM

18-19 after the hardest part of the season is sucking at this? Nobody should be as dumb as you are.

Hey stupid why not actually see how I do in the next....ELEVEN...weeks, ok?

You have said this every single week.

Avante

10-14-2014, 04:50 PM

Didn't you drop the Niners from your "system" a few weeks ago?

The last two years they've had Bowman and Smith. So I can't put real $$$$ on them (Ram game an exception) until those two get back. But.....they were part of ...The System...I mentioned.

The bottomline is simply play the 3-5 top ATS teams from the year before if they have the same QB/coach. As we can see...17-10 after 6 weeks. Keep in mind a lot of them had byes and played each other.

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 04:51 PM

Do I really need to go back to week one of this season and show you all the plays that went exactly as the trends said they would?

Just as long as you show all the ones that didn't go the way the trends said they would.

Avante

10-14-2014, 04:52 PM

You have said this every single week.

You know as well as I do it gets easier as the season progresses. We get tons of game where one team iws fighting for a playoff spot vs a team totally out of it.

I'll hit somewhere between 60-65% like I always do.

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 04:54 PM

Avante

10-14-2014, 04:58 PM

Just as long as you show all the ones that didn't go the way the trends said they would.

So you don't buy trends....right?

Avante

10-14-2014, 04:59 PM

You can't bet retroactively.

I won money on those plays for over a decade.

Avante

10-14-2014, 05:09 PM

Next Monday night it's....

Texans at Steelers

The Texans on the road the last two seasons....2 and 9, the Steelers at home...7 and 4.

Pitt at home on MNF, one of the best in the league. The Texans suck on MNF, they are 0-6 ATS.

So what's the play? Rememberr two of the Texans three wins....Redskins/Raiders. Pitt lost at Balt/Cleveland.

Avante

10-14-2014, 05:25 PM

Do this...

Give...

3 points for a road win
2 points for a home win
1 point for a road loss
0 points for a home loss
now add up wins to that

The Niners would be ...15
The Broncos....14

The Pats vs Jets Thursday night....Pats 16 Jets 5. That's more than the line.

Sure ya have to look at other things buit that gives you an idea. Just another weapon in your arsenal.

Blake

10-14-2014, 05:36 PM

2012

Ok dummy back on ignore, you are simply too dumb/boring to be bothered with, see ya next year.

2013

Ok dummy back on ignore, you are simply too dumb/boring to be bothered with, see ya next year.

2014

Ok dummy back on ignore, you are simply too dumb/boring to be bothered with, see ya next year.

Blake

10-14-2014, 05:37 PM

So you don't buy trends....right?

Your betting trend is horrible

Aztecfan03

10-14-2014, 05:40 PM

So you don't buy trends....right?

Some trends yes, but half of your trends are bullshit.

Avante

10-14-2014, 05:44 PM

Some trends yes, but half of your trends are bullshit.

So what trends do we have this week, you haven't a clue so how can you tell me shit about this?

Avante

10-14-2014, 05:54 PM

Imagine a back so dominating that defenses were geared to just stop him and he still avaraged over 5 a carry for a career and 100 yards a game. We will never see anything like that again. Talking Jim Brown.

He was 6-2 230 pounds and ran about a 4.5 40 at a time when we stilll had white DB's and 250 pound D lineman, yep, he was a freak and ran like one. So fast (at that time) he actually returned kickoffs early on, imagine a fullback returning kicks.

Brown was also elusive and quick, yep, the total package and the greatest running back (actually a fullback) we have ever seen vs his era,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCXNBeVfc

And Brown's first 4 years in the league the great Bobby Mitchell a Big10 sprint/hurdle champ was the "half back". He also averaged over 5 yards a carry.

The greatest Thunder and Lightnin' duo ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylOcoeID6dM

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 06:44 PM

So what trends do we have this week, you haven't a clue so how can you tell me shit about this?
The trend that you're under .500 in betting for 2.5 years now, for starters....

Avante

10-14-2014, 06:48 PM

The trend that you're under .500 in betting for 2.5 years now, for starters....

Dude, tell us all again about Derek Anderson who has a 53 .4 completion % and has 56td's/55INTs...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Fucking idiot!

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 06:51 PM

Who cares about you? This is all about me., what you want/need is a non factor.

You don't offer anything, you don't get anything. You don't make any rules. You just better hope the Ravens cover your ass.

Avante

10-14-2014, 06:52 PM

You don't offer anything, you don't get anything. You don't make any rules. You just better hope the Ravens cover your ass.

I don't deal with cowards. It doesn't matter what the Ravens do as far as you are concerned.

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 06:58 PM

I don't deal with cowards. It doesn't matter what the Ravens do as far as you are concerned.

It's been well established that you are the coward to afraid to risk anything.

Avante

10-14-2014, 07:02 PM

It's been well established that you are the coward to afraid to risk anything.

I'm the guy who takes on the whole board every week with my plays and I'm afraid.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Grow a couple little guy, ok?

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 07:07 PM

Dude, tell us all again about Derek Anderson who has a 53 .4 completion % and has 56td's/55INTs...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Fucking idiot!

Anderson: undefeated in 2014

You: under .500 in 2014

Avante

10-14-2014, 07:10 PM

Anderson: undefeated in 2014

You: under .500 in 2014

Yep, he beat lowly Tampa Bay, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're an idiot!

Educate yourself stupid.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeDe00.htm

Blake

10-14-2014, 07:21 PM

Yep, he beat lowly Tampa Bay, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're an idiot!

Educate yourself stupid.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeDe00.htm

How many people will it take to call you the forum idiot before something inside you clicks

Avante

10-14-2014, 07:30 PM

The Niners have never had the quantity of good receivers like we do right now. What team has ever had 4 1000 yard receivers on the same team before? And a 1000 yard TE? (ok 965)

ohmwrecker

10-14-2014, 07:58 PM

I'm the guy who takes on the whole board every week with my plays and I'm afraid.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Grow a couple little guy, ok?

Where's that bench press vid, homeboy?

Avante

10-14-2014, 08:03 PM

Where's that bench press vid, homeboy?

I played that shit once and learned my lesson. All I read was..."ok so who owns all that stuff really?" Why go to the trouble of making a video knowing it will be..."ok so who really is that"..? So fuck it.

I showed a bench in my pictures I took, it was..."you don't even use it do you"...haha!!!!! Oh hell no I just have it for looks.

Dude, if the Ravens cover you stay out of my theads...ok? You are a giant bore. If the Falcons hang within the number you can hump on my leg...ok?

Clipper Nation

10-14-2014, 08:24 PM

I played that shit once and learned my lesson. All I read was..."ok so who owns all that stuff really?" Why go to the trouble of making a video knowing it will be..."ok so who really is that"..? So fuck it.

I showed a bench in my pictures I took, it was..."you don't even use it do you"...haha!!!!! Oh hell no I just have it for looks.

Dude, if the Ravens cover you stay out of my theads...ok? You are a giant bore. If the Falcons hang within the number you can hump on my leg...ok?
^ Known welcher ^

Avante

10-14-2014, 08:25 PM

^ Known welcher ^

That coming from a little shit who only comes here to leech off me/others, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're pathetic!

Derek Anderson, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You....well he beat Tampa Bay.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avante

10-15-2014, 09:43 PM

Obviously the Pats are a far better team than the lowly Jets....but...

The Jets on national tv with a chance to show the nation they don't suck all that hard....hmmm? The Pats with injuries playing an inferior opponet off a short week.....hmmmmm?

Obviously talking plus the points. But.....Geno Smith does suck that hard.

Avante

10-15-2014, 10:38 PM

Once Ryan Matthews makes it back if the Chargers don't find a role for Brenden Oliver they are crazy.

As we know the kid is out of Buffalo, yep another small school stud.

I won't count those HBCU schools because they do have a great football tradition, so other than them...

Chris Warren Furman
Brian Westbrook Villanova
Terry Metcalf Long Beach State
Calvin Hill Yale
Mark Van Eeghan/Marv Hubbard Colgate
Wilbert Montgomery Abilene Christian
Danny Woodhead Chadron St
Sid Blanks Texas A&I
Joe Delaney NWLa
Wendell Hayes Humbolt St
Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye Azusa Pacific
Joe "The Jet" Perry Compton JC

Clipper Nation

10-16-2014, 08:34 AM

Fuck, now Oliver is #AvanteJinxed.... looks like Donald Brown or Ronnie Brown will have to step up....

Blizzardwizard

10-16-2014, 09:53 AM

Fuck, now Oliver is #AvanteJinxed.... looks like Donald Brown or Ronnie Brown will have to step up....

Damn man you scared me, you made me think he'd snapped his leg in half or something.

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:11 AM

Fuck, now Oliver is #AvanteJinxed.... looks like Donald Brown or Ronnie Brown will have to step up....

Terrance West is averaging 4.4 a carry, and I mentioned Oliver being another small school stud somewhere down there so why the bullshit? I nailed Russell Wilson, why ignore that? So here you are ....again...talking out your ass.

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:17 AM

Why am I feeling like the Jets will hang tough tonight?

Clipper Nation

10-16-2014, 10:18 AM

Damn man you scared me, you made me think he'd snapped his leg in half or something.
The Avante Curse is an even worse fate than that, tbh :lol

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:24 AM

The Avante Curse is an even worse fate than that, tbh :lol

Why just make shit up little man? Damn you're dumb.

Blake

10-16-2014, 10:29 AM

Terrance West is averaging 4.4 a carry

He has the most amount of carries on the team, yet he's third in yardage gained behind Tate and Crowell.

You're a disingenuous fat unintelligent old fuck.

Blake

10-16-2014, 10:30 AM

Why just make shit up little man? Damn you're dumb.

It's a joke. You step on that flaming bag of shit on your front porch every time.

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:34 AM

He has the most amount of carries on the team, yet he's third in yardage gained behind Tate and Crowell.

You're a disingenuous fat unintelligent old fuck.

translation

Hey Avante who was Tommy Mason?

Good one shorty.

Tommy Mason was a white running back out of Tulane who was a good back for the Vikings in the 60's. He was the speed to fullback Bill Browns power. Mason was a pro bowl back.

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:38 AM

When I first got into pro football the NFL had 14 teams. So most every team had a great QB. Imagine if the league still had 14 teams. Look at the quality of play compared to what we see now. Every team would have far far better rosters than they do now.

Avante

10-16-2014, 10:52 AM

It's a joke. You step on that flaming bag of shit on your front porch every time.

translation

Who was Sammie White?

Good one slick.

Sammie White was out of Grambling, a speed guy with some toughs. His rookie season with the Vikes he had over 1000 yards receiving. Had a good career.

johnsmith

10-16-2014, 10:55 AM

Avante

10-16-2014, 11:01 AM

Why?

It isn't obvious?

johnsmith

10-16-2014, 11:14 AM

It isn't obvious?

No, not why would every team be more talented....rather, why should anyone bother imagining that scenario or even discussing it?

Avante

10-16-2014, 11:23 AM

No, not why would every team be more talented....rather, why should anyone bother imagining that scenario or even discussing it?

The same reason people watch movies and read books. Why make a movie about a giant monster terrorizing Japan? Why write a song..."Born to be Wild"...? Why did we see the Muhammad Ali vs Rocky Marciano fight? Why can you bring back teams from other eras in video games? Why do we have the ESPN Classic Network?

I have talked with tons and tons of track fans about how would a guy like Bob Hayes do today on these modern tracks and all the other advantages we see today compared to the 60's. I've talked with tons of football fans about could Jim Brown play today?

This is a messgaeboard, no need to limit yourself when you can have it all.

Aztecfan03

10-16-2014, 11:41 AM

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:08 PM

No way...:rolleyes

No way what?

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:12 PM

Saw a replay of the Cowboys vs Seahawks game last night. We all forget that Romo threw a pass right to a Seahawk defender on the goal line that was dropped. The guy catches it it's 17-0. He had smooth sailing to the endzone.

People also forget that it took an incredible catch by Williams in a third and 20 into a first down when the score was tied.

Aztecfan03

10-16-2014, 12:15 PM

No way what?

It's sarcasm, dumbass.

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:18 PM

It's sarcasm, dumbass.

It made no sense my man, none!

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:35 PM

Ok as of right now.

Points scored, points given up. A 130 scored, 110 given up will read + 2.

Pats... + 4
Bils... - 1
Dolphins...even
Jets... -6
Bengals... + 2
Ravens... + 7
Browns... +2
Steelers.. -1
Colts... + 5
Texans... +1
Titans... -5
Jags... -10
Chargers...+7
Broncos.. + 4
Chiefs... +1
Raiders...-6
Eagles... +5
Cowboys... +4
Giants... even
Redskins... - 3
Lions... +2
Packers... +3
Bears... even
Vikes...- 4
Panthers... -1
Saints... -1
Falcons... -1
Buc;s... - 10
Cards...+1
Niners... +2
Seahawks...+2
Rams... -5

Tonight it's the Pats at plus 4 vs a Jets team at minus 6. So that's Pats plus 10....hmmmm?

Aztecfan03

10-16-2014, 12:36 PM

It made no sense my man, none!

Maybe not to you, but to anyone else it should. This meme is the smae thing.
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/29566357.jpg

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:43 PM

Maybe not to you, but to anyone else it should. This meme is the smae thing.
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/29566357.jpg

Kinda like me talking to real Charger fans and John Jefferson as you....who?

Blake

10-16-2014, 12:48 PM

Damn you're retarded.

Avante

10-16-2014, 12:52 PM

Damn you're retarded.

translation

Hey Avante, how about the first great Viking back Chuck Foreman?

Cool, half pint.

Foreman was out of Miami, he sorta danced and spun, cat was always trying to spin away from defenders, but he made it work. He looked more like a receiver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBN5aUMVLU

ohmwrecker

10-16-2014, 03:02 PM

Avante

10-16-2014, 03:07 PM

Ok. i'll stay out of your theads. Whatever those are.

It's....I..not ..i'll...ok stupid?

Ok I confess that is beyond tiny/stupid. Dude......spelling, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really that hard up to bug others? Spelling.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Yep, boring as fuck.

Avante

10-16-2014, 05:29 PM

Why is everyone forgetting the Cowboys were a dropped INT from being down 17-0 in Seattle?

Clipper Nation

10-16-2014, 05:33 PM

Why is everyone forgetting the Cowboys were a dropped INT from being down 17-0 in Seattle?
You could play the "what if" card for every game ever, doesn't change the fact that Seattle lost, your mancrush choked, and you have an under .500 betting record AGAIN :lol

Avante

10-16-2014, 05:41 PM

You could play the "what if" card for every game ever, doesn't change the fact that Seattle lost, your mancrush choked, and you have an under .500 betting record AGAIN :lol

If you are working at stupid you can stop, you are there...ok?

I do things guys, while you follow. Look at you, you do....0.....but work off what we do, that's sad ya little shit.

Dummy, you might lust after other men ya faggot, I don't. Are you really dumb enought to think I thought the Seahawks would go undefeated? And you do know I hope the Niners beat them twice.....right?

I'll hit around 60-65$ like I always do, stop acting like a dummy about it, ok?

Aztecfan03

10-16-2014, 07:12 PM

translation

Hey Avante, how about the first great Viking back Chuck Foreman?

Cool, half pint.

Foreman was out of Miami, he sorta danced and spun, cat was always trying to spin away from defenders, but he made it work. He looked more like a receiver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBN5aUMVLU

Nope the correct translation is: Damn, you're retarded.

spurraider21

10-16-2014, 07:25 PM

Blake

10-16-2014, 08:05 PM

so is this an official pick?

We'll know tomorrow

Malik Hairston

10-16-2014, 10:27 PM

:lol so lame, and such an Avante thing to do, making an ambiguous prediction..

spurraider21

10-16-2014, 10:32 PM

:lol so lame, and such an Avante thing to do, making an ambiguous prediction..
nah he'll usually lay it out very clearly and give the line

14-14

SD-7.......Phillip Rivers!
Den -9.5.....Manning vs Geno!
Giants +3.....dog is 16-3 last 19 in this series
Cincy - 6.5....good team back at home coming off a road loss
Pitt + 2....Big Ben is 18-1 in this "spot".

spurraider21

10-16-2014, 10:33 PM

and he said "talking plus the points" never actually said who he was taking. no play

Malik Hairston

10-16-2014, 10:36 PM

Avante has been known to make ambiguous predictions, this is probably the first year that he's actually presented his picks in a clear fashion..everybody here knew him for lying about his picks and pretending he meant otherwise:lol..

spurraider21

10-16-2014, 10:38 PM

yeah but he never actually chose a team in that post. just a lot of "hmmmm"

Malik Hairston

10-16-2014, 10:45 PM

yeah but he never actually chose a team in that post. just a lot of "hmmmm"

He was known to do that in past years and pretend like he made the correct choice, until everybody constantly called him out for it:lol..

Clipper Nation

10-16-2014, 11:51 PM

Then there was the time he tried to shift the meaning of 70% from winning 70% of his bets to winning 70% of his money :lol

Avante

10-16-2014, 11:56 PM

Nope the correct translation is: Damn, you're retarded.

Retarded about what little man?

Avante

10-16-2014, 11:58 PM

and he said "talking plus the points" never actually said who he was taking. no play

I was going to make that play but had to check the weather. It was raining so I layed off the play. Damn!

Avante

10-16-2014, 11:59 PM

He was known to do that in past years and pretend like he made the correct choice, until everybody constantly called him out for it:lol..

Why lie guy? I always make it very clear who I'm taking. I even tell you why?

Don't make shit up, ok?

chunticakes

10-17-2014, 12:47 AM

that's too bad, tbh.

Avante

10-17-2014, 12:54 AM

that's too bad, tbh.

It was an easy "spot' to see, but how do you back Geno Smith in the rain?

chunticakes

10-17-2014, 01:06 AM

It was an easy "spot' to see, but how do you back Geno Smith in the rain?

exactly. rain = less curious geno.

Avante

10-17-2014, 01:22 AM

exactly. rain = less curious geno.

I turn on the game and it was..."well the rain has eased off for now but it will be back". Then I thought of Geno Smith and a wet ball. Nay!

No way the 'spot" favored the Pats.

Blake

10-17-2014, 08:23 AM

how do you back Geno Smith in the rain?

if he consents, i don't see the issue

Blake

10-17-2014, 08:26 AM

Then I thought of Geno Smith and a wet ball.

Yeah you're gay

Clipper Nation

10-17-2014, 08:56 AM

:lol "Betting expert" scared of a few drops of rain

Aztecfan03

10-17-2014, 11:18 AM

It was an easy "spot' to see, but how do you back Geno Smith in the rain?

What about the home teams on thursday night spot?

chunticakes

10-17-2014, 11:28 AM

What about the home teams on thursday night spot?

don't listen to the old man, he's senile. constantly contradicting himself.

Avante

10-17-2014, 01:45 PM

:lol "Betting expert" scared of a few drops of rain

Keep in mind I play these games with real $$$$. And if I'd known it was going to be just a few drops of rain I;m pulling the trigger. I got the impression a storm was coming.

Avante

10-17-2014, 01:50 PM

What about the home teams on thursday night spot?

Didn't the home team on Thursday night win the game?

Without Mayo and Riddley and the Jets in a "must" win situaton it went just like I said it would. The Pats with injuries and a hungry Jets team. Keep in mind we are talking a huge 9.5 line. The Jets were 3-1ATS last 4 vs the Pats.

Avante

10-17-2014, 01:51 PM

don't listen to the old man, he's senile. constantly contradicting himself.

No I don't so why lie?

Blake

10-17-2014, 01:59 PM

No I don't so why lie?

Now you're lying, old man.

Avante

10-17-2014, 02:06 PM

Ok week 7 plays

Giants + 6.5....classic case of a team coming off a bad loss vs a team coming off a big win.
Ravens -7....the Falcons are one of the worst road teams in the league, the Ravens a great HF.
Chiefs + 4....Andy Reid coming off a bye ...wow!
Niners + 7...are 4-1 heading into a bye week and the best road team in the league in the Harbaugh era.
Indy - 3....the Colts coming off a Thursday night vs a Bengals coming off a 5 quarter game, in Indy. Gotta love it.
Ariz - 3.5....the Raiders can't play two good games in a row.

Avante

10-17-2014, 02:31 PM

In college football the "spot" or situation rarely matters. There we do see a huge difference in talent. Bama is beating Arkansas State 100 out of 100 times regardless of anything. That is not the NFL. You give the lowly Jags a couple turnovers and give up a big special teams play and if at home they can beat anyone. So you look for "spots" in the NFL that overwelmingly favor one team over another.

Some of these teams totally suck heading into a bye, some come out swinging after a bye. You need to know who does what. Who suck as a RD? How about great as a HF? You need that info.

The Pats were favored by 9.5 last night, the perception was they were coming on while the lowly Jets sucked. The real facts were the Pats aren't al that as a HF on Thursday nights vs the divsion...4-4, the Jets as a RD vs the division....6-2. Now add the importance of the game, the Jets had to have it, a must. So we saw their best performance so far this season.

The Giants were totally embarrashed last time out, they looked like shit. The Cowboys are now Superbowl bound, haha!!!!! Do you see it coming? Sure the Cowboys win the game but it will be close.

Avante

10-17-2014, 05:59 PM

If I'm the Jets I stick Harvin out there as my speed receiver, something Seattle should have done. Stop with the multi talented thing.

spurraider21

10-17-2014, 06:17 PM

Or they should use him at defensive end as a pass rush specialist.

Faggot

Avante

10-17-2014, 06:22 PM

Or they should use him at defensive end as a pass rush specialist.

Faggot

I'll go slow...

A guy as frail as Percy Harvin would be useless on defense. But.....a back 220 pounds with 4.4 jets would make a great "situational" pass rusher. I've seen it done.

Now think little guy, how many backers have 4.4 jets, why not stick a speedy guy in there to rush the passer when it's third and 15?

oh yeah....Faggot.

Avante

10-17-2014, 07:26 PM

The Jets did have Olympic 4th place 100m man Johnny Jones at receiver once upon a time.

Avante

10-17-2014, 08:59 PM

Percy Harvin is fast but not all that, hell the Seahawks once had Michael Bates a 10.1 (Harvin 10.4) guy who was an Olympic bronze medalist in the 200m. They hardly used him for anything other than a kick returner.

jimbo

10-18-2014, 01:20 AM

I'll go slow...

A guy as frail as Percy Harvin would be useless on defense. But.....a back 220 pounds with 4.4 jets would make a great "situational" pass rusher. I've seen it done.

Now think little guy, how many backers have 4.4 jets, why not stick a speedy guy in there to rush the passer when it's third and 15?

oh yeah....Faggot.

Yeah...or you could just play in nickel and send a DB at the QB instead of doing something retarded like that.

More space for the small guy to pick up speed and get around the blockers and it's not obvious as fuck. I mean hell, if I saw that shit I'd want to pull a guard over and see what we can get running the ball there.

spurraider21

10-18-2014, 02:20 AM

Avante

10-18-2014, 08:05 AM

Yeah...or you could just play in nickel and send a DB at the QB instead of doing something retarded like that.

More space for the small guy to pick up speed and get around the blockers and it's not obvious as fuck. I mean hell, if I saw that shit I'd want to pull a guard over and see what we can get running the ball there.

Nobody is talking about ......for the small guy...and I made that clear. Not talking about rushing a Trindon Holliday here...ok? Take a back up back, a guy with some heft or a big wide receiver and set them out wide. Good luck in a tackle being about to get out there and if he can have a backer right over him, so there's the hole.

The local JC in town used that idea. On third and long in came backs/receivers with more speed than backers/DE's. Worked like a charm and would work at any level.

Avante

10-18-2014, 08:15 AM

yeah when avante first brought this up months ago i told him he was basically describing a corner blitz, but he refused to buy that

I refused to buy it or talked about simply replacing big linemen with speed players in obvious third and long? You do know at the HS level most guys play both ways....right? You do know that Pitt uses running back John Conner as a DE...right? You do know that a lot of HS backs become backers at the next level...right? UCLA uses Myles Jack as a backer and running back.

Make it to where you must leave backs in to block these speed rushers, it's real obvious they will be blowing by big linemen. That's the idea behind it. And if you spread a tackle out, there's that gap staring at a backer.

Rookies....sheesh!

Avante

10-18-2014, 02:22 PM

Electric football

Anytime you see it like in some commercial it's always as if everyone is going backwards and falling down and it's just stupid chaos. That wasn't how it was at all and anyone who played to game seriously as a kid knows that. It was very realistic.

spurraider21

10-19-2014, 03:07 PM