Official 2017-18 NBA Season Thread

[BillMc]

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14. Ben Simmons
15. Griffin
16.Embid
17. PG13
18. Gasol
19.Jokic
20. CP3 or A.Drummond


I quite remember when Simmons was an interesting and knowledgeable voice on the NBA (late 2000s-early 2010s)..He's really become a lame hot-take machine the past couple of years....



LaSharkus not even Top 20 now? Puh...lease, Simmons. Giving bad names to people named Bill

[SPURt]

They would annihilate Boston in a series, playoffs warriors >>>>> regular season warriors

They are bored as hell and just going through the motions. Boston would be lucky to push he serie past five games.
I totally agree with you. Why was Jordan’s Bulls so much more fun than these Warriors? I’m just as bored as the Warriors appear to be.

[r0drig0lac]

I totally agree with you. Why was Jordan’s Bulls so much more fun than these Warriors? I’m just as bored as the Warriors appear to be.

because none of David Robinson, Malone or Barkley joined them

[SPURt]

because none of David Robinson, Malone or Barkley joined them
Yep, people have called D Rob soft but at least he isn’t Durant soft.

[tholdren]

Malcom young RIP

[99 Problems]

George passed a short time ago, now Malcolm. Legends these guys.

[DAF86]

Pistons just stole one in Minnesota. Good shit. Now let's hope the LA Lonzos do work vs Denver.

[bklynspursfan]

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[SAGirl]

GAsol had a rough start but that lasted only 2 or 3 games. His passing is much needed to create shots for others, and he sticks to his strengths on defense. I also like that he has started to shoot the 3 again. His first few games (I remember he even had a 0 FG game in like the 3rd game of the season or something) he was passing up shots and not generally being that aggressive. He has improved a lot. Also he's setting good screens. He makes teammates better when he does that as well.

[TimDunkem]

Langston Galloway tho'.

[tholdren]

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Useless stat

[YGWHI]

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Don Thibs? Thibs da Boss?

They lost 2 in a row. Looked like shit in the 2nd half.

The good thing is they just want a playoffs spot, something they didn't have in last 15 years...They won't fight for the #3 seed like us.


The worst team in late-game situations this season.
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Strongly disagree. Neither Russ/PG13/Melo is a closer.

[YGWHI]

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I wonder if "some" Spurs player was jealous of Pau having the best NetRtg...Then Pop had to reduce Gasol minutes in the next games...18' tonight :lol

[BatManu20]

Kyrie went off, completely took over down the stretch. C's win in OT. Impressive.

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[SAGirl]

I wonder if "some" Spurs player was jealous of Pau having the best NetRtg...Then Pop had to reduce Gasol minutes in the next games...18' tonight :lol
Conspiracy theory but if someone wanted an all star bid it wouldn’t look good if Gasol was the one making such a difference :wow
non conspiracy theory. The bigs have been playing a lot. It wouldn’t surprise if Pop alternated a minutes restriction game among them to limit their exposure to injuries and such. Spurs can’t afford a big man injury

[SAGirl]

Kyrie went off, completely took over down the stretch. C's win in OT. Impressive.

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I’ll always remember the 53 or something he poured on the Spurs 2 seasons ago. It was like that.

[BatManu20]

I’ll always remember the 53 or something he poured on the Spurs 2 seasons ago. It was like that.

57 points*. An AT&T Center and Cavs franchise record.

[YGWHI]

Conspiracy theory but if someone wanted an all star bid it wouldn’t look good if Gasol was the one making such a difference :wow
Interesting... :lol


non conspiracy theory. The bigs have been playing a lot. It wouldn’t surprise if Pop alternated a minutes restriction game among them to limit their exposure to injuries and such. Spurs can’t afford a big man injury
LMA played almost 40 minutes tonight... I doubt he will have a minutes restriction in next games. We'll see.

[spursistan]

Sitting alone at 3rd seed only 2 games back from the Warriors and Rockets in the standings with kawhi missing a whooping 17 games already..I will take that any day :tu..


Spurs have done a fine job staying afloat in spite of everything..

[BatManu20]

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[raybies]

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who?

[LittleCriminal]

I know the Lakers are one of them. Multiple Sauces Confirm

[raybies]

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time to blow it up

[Robz4000]

RIP my fantasy PG rotation

[dabom]

RIP my fantasy PG rotation

I was just gonna post about the dumbass posters wanting this lame. :lol

[dabom]

Mthfr was talking all the shit too going 100 and now he not playing. :lol

[SAGirl]

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time to blow it up
Sorry to hear that for Beverly. Sounds like Chandler Parsons knee.

[SpurPadre]

Sorry to hear that for Beverly. Sounds like Chandler Parsons knee.

Considering how he's taken out players with his dirty play, I feel no remorse for him, tbh.

[RD2191]

What was Blake thinking re-signing with clippers?:lol

[tbdog]

RIP my fantasy PG rotation

I drafted Leonard and Gobert rds 1 and 2. Also drafted Gali and Russell. Lol.

[SAGirl]

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[sasaint]

What was Blake thinking re-signing with clippers?:lol

Cha-ching!

[BatManu20]

Pretty sure KD called him a pussy.

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[daslicer]

What was Blake thinking re-signing with clippers?:lol

Blake like many other players just loves the city of LA. He's used to that lifestyle and didn't want to give it up.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Blake like many other players just loves the city of LA. He's used to that lifestyle and didn't want to give it up.

Pretty much. Getting a Max Contract Extension to play in LA is a pretty sweet deal, especially for a guy like Blake who, like you said, relishes that lifestyle. Winning comes secondary to him imo.

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[SAGirl]

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[diego]

Didn't see the OKC game, did Durant get a T for getting in Westbrooks face? I'm still pissed about the T jax got for looking at their bench

[Ice009]

Didn't see the OKC game, did Durant get a T for getting in Westbrooks face? I'm still pissed about the T jax got for looking at their bench

I am too. Weren't they mouthing off at him before he even looked at their bench?

[NASpurs]

Bullet dodged.

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[Spurs da champs]

Thibbs fucked his career in that playoff game.

[BatManu20]

Yea Rose is done... Another potentially great career ended prematurelt due to injuries. For shame.

Just hope our guy isn't next on the list, tbh..

[jermaine]

Yea Rose is done... Another potentially great career ended prematurelt due to injuries. For shame.

Just hope our guy isn't next on the list, tbh..

But people is bitching at Pop for bringing Kawhi back slowly from injury!!! Gotta love the Spurs organization!

[tmtcsc]

But people is bitching at Pop for bringing Kawhi back slowly from injury!!! Gotta love the Spurs organization!

Pop is NOT holding Kawhi out at this point. Kawhi is holding himself out. The coaching staff is at a loss and are showing him a ton of respect as far as trusting that he knows his body and will come back when he is ready.

[RD2191]

Pop is NOT holding Kawhi out at this point. Kawhi is holding himself out. The coaching staff is at a loss and are showing him a ton of respect as far as trusting that he knows his body and will come back when he is ready.

You don't know that. You're just talking out of your ass.

[tmtcsc]

You don't know that. You're just talking out of your ass.

Yeah...no. I do know that.

[SAGirl]

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[Ice009]

Thibbs fucked his career in that playoff game.

I watched that game live and before he got hurt, I was saying - why is Rose still on the court, he should be out resting so he doesn't get injured. Next thing you know, he got that devastating injury. It was terrible seeing it live. I was shocked. Thibbs really did fuck up.


Yeah...no. I do know that.

Wow. Have you heard that from someone reliable, first hand?

I've bought that report up about a week ago where someone mentioned in early October he heard it on the radio, or read somewhere that the Spurs told him the pain he's experiencing is what most high usage NBA vets have to deal with, and that he's going to have to learn to play through it. So that report has some validity to it?

[RD2191]

Yeah...no. I do know that.

Proof?

[BatManu20]

Would be a good trade for the Cavs, tbh. They need some interior defense badly and it would allow Love to slide back to the 4, his natural position.

And the Clippers could get Deandre's contract off the books for a younger, cheaper option in Thompson.

In the end, it doesn't do much for either teams in terms on contention, but still benefits both imo, UNLESS the Cavs add the Nets' 1st-Round pick, which would be beyond idiotic... Otherwise, Khloe Kardashian approves tbh.



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[tmtcsc]

Wow. Have you heard that from someone reliable, first hand?

I've bought that report up about a week ago where someone mentioned in early October he heard it on the radio, or read somewhere that the Spurs told him the pain he's experiencing is what most high usage NBA vets have to deal with, and that he's going to have to learn to play through it. So that report has some validity to it?

Reliable and first hand - yes. They are very close to the team. Just for the record, I appreciate this person sharing their opinions and observations of the team with me and I respectfully don't ask questions or interrogate them like I'm some sort of reporter. So when they tell me stuff, its not said definitively, its more implied - like "You never want to force a player to go out on the floor when they aren't ready physically or mentally. We just have to wait & see." I responded with "At this rate, maybe Parker will play before Leonard". The reply I got was - "I think that's going to be the case".

It sucks to hear that but on the bright side, part of that statement was related to how well TP has responded to his surgery and treatment. Almost the exact opposite of Leonard.

[tmtcsc]

Proof?

C'mon man.

[Ice009]

Reliable and first hand - yes. They are very close to the team. Just for the record, I appreciate this person sharing their opinions and observations of the team with me and I respectfully don't ask questions or interrogate them like I'm some sort of reporter. So when they tell me stuff, its not said definitively, its more implied - like "You never want to force a player to go out on the floor when they aren't ready physically or mentally. We just have to wait & see." I responded with "At this rate, maybe Parker will play before Leonard". The reply I got was - "I think that's going to be the case".

It sucks to hear that but on the bright side, part of that statement was related to how well TP has responded to his surgery and treatment. Almost the exact opposite of Leonard.

Thanks. I appreciate you elaborating a bit more on your previous post.

Hopefully Kawhi can get back soon. Has it been a while since you were told this (a few weeks ago), or is it very recent?

[tmtcsc]

Thanks. I appreciate you elaborating a bit more on your previous post.

Hopefully Kawhi can get back soon. Has it been a while since you were told this (a few weeks ago), or is it very recent?

Very recent - this past week.

[Ice009]

Very recent - this past week.

OK, thanks a lot. I guess we will have to keep waiting it out.

Any idea if the injury can get worse if he plays on it.

It also sounds like he's got a bit of Derrick Rose's timidity in regards to returning from this injury.

[tmtcsc]

OK, thanks a lot. I guess we will have to keep waiting it out.

Any idea if the injury can get worse if he plays on it.

It also sounds like he's got a bit of Derrick Rose's timidity in regards to returning from this injury.

No, I have no idea if it can get worse if he plays on it. The Derrick Rose comparison might be accurate. Leonard is as competitive as it gets and you would think he would push himself to get out there and give it a go. That he hasn't, must really have the team spooked. I just want to know who his doctors are. Does he have his own or are the Spurs therapists working with him? What are they telling the team?

If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Jason Garrett of Airrosti (https://www.airrosti.com/get-to-know-us/jason-garrett/) - who works with the team from time to time suggested that physically, Leonard should be out there and that it may be a mental issue at this point. I have no idea how accurate that is or if he has worked with KL personally.

[spursistan]

OKC getting destroyed by the Mavs :lol..

Starting to think this 2013 Lakers all over again..Their Big 3 are simply a bad combination compounded by lack of depth and pedestrian coaching..

[spursistan]

I expect PG to be dangled in the trade deadline if Thunder continue to struggle..Would love the Spurs to sniff around if that happens..

[tbdog]

I expect PG to be dangled in the trade deadline if Thunder continue to struggle..Would love the Spurs to sniff around if that happens..

It would take the min of Mills and Green for that to happen. And the Spurs don't have an inside track at retaining George, whereas we have the inside track at retaining Green, while we could make a move in the offseason at another talent. I think George's trade value is at an alltime low.

[TheDoctor]

I expect PG to be dangled in the trade deadline if Thunder continue to struggle..Would love the Spurs to sniff around if that happens..

HOTS/Murray
Kawhi/Manu/Forbes
PG13/Kyle/BP3
LMA/RGay/Bertans
Gasol/Lauvergne

???

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

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Superstar :lol

[spursistan]

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Grizz have imploded..Lost 8th game in row and we play them twice this week in home-and-home stand..

Gasol got benched the entire fourth...Watch out..I think he is a sneaky big trade condidate if this continues to go south for Memphis..

[Robz4000]

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Grizz have imploded..Lost 8th game in row and we play them twice this week in home-and-home stand..

Gasol got benched the entire fourth...Watch out..I think he is a sneaky big trade condidate if this continues to go south for Memphis..

If he really is on the trade block the Cavs have to be all over that. Much better than DeMonkey and can prolly be had for the same price.

[NASpurs]

Gasol wanting to get the fuck out and Conley and his $30 million a year sitting on the bench. Real shitstorm over there.


If he really is on the trade block the Cavs have to be all over that. Much better than DeMonkey and can prolly be had for the same price.

And then signs with the Spurs when he's 36. You know that shit is coming. :lol

[SAGirl]

Pop is NOT holding Kawhi out at this point. Kawhi is holding himself out. The coaching staff is at a loss and are showing him a ton of respect as far as trusting that he knows his body and will come back when he is ready.


Reliable and first hand - yes. They are very close to the team. Just for the record, I appreciate this person sharing their opinions and observations of the team with me and I respectfully don't ask questions or interrogate them like I'm some sort of reporter. So when they tell me stuff, its not said definitively, its more implied - like "You never want to force a player to go out on the floor when they aren't ready physically or mentally. We just have to wait & see." I responded with "At this rate, maybe Parker will play before Leonard". The reply I got was - "I think that's going to be the case".

It sucks to hear that but on the bright side, part of that statement was related to how well TP has responded to his surgery and treatment. Almost the exact opposite of Leonard.


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The ailment first showed up last season and has resulted in what Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has termed a “difficult” rehabilitation for the two-time All-Star and two-time defensive player of the year.
“They are perplexed by how long it’s taken him to get better,” a source said of the Spurs.
The Spurs have no timeline for Leonard’s return, although Popovich has said more than once he expects it to be “sooner rather than later.”

[spursistan]

If he really is on the trade block the Cavs have to be all over that. Much better than DeMonkey and can prolly be had for the same price.
Don't think the Cavs would include the Nets pick for him; but a Love-Gasol swap makes sense for both teams.

Love is going to be absolutely worthless once Lebron leaves, and Marc would certainly gives them better chance for one last crack at the Warriors..Memphis in return get a younger PF who is good enough to keep them in contention for their precious 7th-8th seed..

[spursistan]

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I' wouldn't be surprised if tmtcsc's theory proves to be the case. Kawhi has shown in the past that he isn't going to warrior it Kobe/MJ-style (for good or bad depending how you see it). If he were cut from the same cloth; he would have checked himself back in the pivotal last few minutes and OT of Game 5 vs Houston and played on adrenaline..

Maybe the dude's pain tolerance is on the lowest of scales..

[Robz4000]

Don't think the Cavs would include the Nets pick for him; but a Love-Gasol swap makes sense for both teams.

Love is going to be absolutely worthless once Lebron leaves, and Marc would certainly gives them better chance for one last crack at the Warriors..Memphis in return get a younger PF who is good enough to keep them in contention for their precious 7th-8th seed..

If they're willing to do so for DeMonkey/Lou Williams I don't see why they wouldn't for Gasol/whoever the Grizz have cut from a similar vein.

[Ice009]

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Looking at this, I'm pretty convinced Tmtcsc is right. It sounds like the Spurs are being nice by saying that they are "perplexed" by how long it's taking him. They don't want to talk bad about him and are showing him max respect, but if true, darn Kawhi, I thought you were much tougher than this.

However, the other side of the coin is, Kawhi might really know his body better than the Spurs and their medical team, and if he did come back at the behest of the Spurs, he could get injured again, or make the injury much worse and ruin his entire season. I'm thinking something similar to Karl Malone in 2004, I think the Lakers doctors screwed up his rehab or diagnosis for the knee injury he got earlier in the season and he was out longer than he should have been, then in the playoffs, that injury popped up again and basically ended their season. I'm NOT complaining about that one, though ;).

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[spursistan]

Memphis next 11 games (with Conley out): SASx2, CLE, MIN, NYK, TOR, OKC, MIA, WAS, BOS, GSW.

This is gonna get ugly..

[TheDoctor]

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[SAGirl]

Looking at this, I'm pretty convinced Tmtcsc is right. It sounds like the Spurs are being nice by saying that they are "perplexed" by how long it's taking him. They don't want to talk bad about him and are showing him max respect, but if true, darn Kawhi, I thought you were much tougher than this.

However, the other side of the coin is, Kawhi might really know his body better than the Spurs and their medical team, and if he did come back at the behest of the Spurs, he could get injured again, or make the injury much worse and ruin his entire season. I'm thinking something similar to Karl Malone in 2004, I think the Lakers doctors screwed up his rehab or diagnosis for the knee injury he got earlier in the season and he was out longer than he should have been, then in the playoffs, that injury popped up again and basically ended their season. I'm NOT complaining about that one, though ;).

Yea, at this point, I prefer he wait. I also remember was it Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill? They will not push him. Besides the team is doing ok. It's been a soft schedule and they will hit rough paths, but so far have defeated the teams they are supposed to.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

After extending Aldridge the Spurs don't have the contracts to trade for Marc Gasol, but Cleveland have a lot to work with, especially including that Brooklyn pick.

[BatManu20]

Gasol would be the perfect Spur tbh. But as the poster above stated, we don't have the pieces to make a realistic trade work. CLE or some other 2nd tier team would be a good option though. I don't think he's in Memphis at the start of next season.

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[tbdog]

Green and Mills contracts works. Heck they could even ask for Anderson or Bertans. But I think this small ball line up is really working for us. Having Leonard would put us right near the top. I just dont think two traditional bigs would these days. Heck even Pelicans are not dominating with the two best bigs in the game. And our guards would be probably worse without Green and Mills. And yes we would still have Leonard and Gay. Anyway it's a big risk with moderate reward to trade for Marc.

[SAGirl]

Spurs already have two traditional bigs and play them together some, but not all game, and they are winning with lineups were they are staggered most of the time and sometimes Pau doesn't close a game. To add a third expensive big to those 2 doesn't make sense. For Marc, either Pau GAsol or Lamarcus have to go out in a trade.

Also, for Memphis it doesn't make sense to trade for either guy.

[YGWHI]

No, I have no idea if it can get worse if he plays on it. The Derrick Rose comparison might be accurate. Leonard is as competitive as it gets and you would think he would push himself to get out there and give it a go. That he hasn't, must really have the team spooked. I just want to know who his doctors are. Does he have his own or are the Spurs therapists working with him? What are they telling the team?

I wonder why your source close to Spurs didn't tell you about that...Weird.

Also, next time you see "your source" ask him why the team allowed Kawhi to train in the summer without restrictions or any other issue.

Everyone with access to SDSU Jam saw him working every morning there with his trainer Randy Shelton. And some of those days with Jamaal Franklin, others with T.Cunninghan, both playing in China.

This is something I would love to know...Since you have this source it would be nice to get an answer.

[YGWHI]

Looking at this, I'm pretty convinced Tmtcsc is right. It sounds like the Spurs are being nice by saying that they are "perplexed" by how long it's taking him. They don't want to talk bad about him and are showing him max respect, but if true, darn Kawhi, I thought you were much tougher than this.

However, the other side of the coin is, Kawhi might really know his body better than the Spurs and their medical team, and if he did come back at the behest of the Spurs, he could get injured again, or make the injury much worse and ruin his entire season. I'm thinking something similar to Karl Malone in 2004, I think the Lakers doctors screwed up his rehab or diagnosis for the knee injury he got earlier in the season and he was out longer than he should have been, then in the playoffs, that injury popped up again and basically ended their season. I'm NOT complaining about that one, though ;).

Like Spurs' doctors did with Kawhi's quad injury.

Kawhi was working all summer, it's clear they thought his injury wasn't that serious. Like I've said before, the Spurs' medical staff made a big mistake in their first diagnosis approach and now...suddenly...they are perplexed.

Doctors letting an injured player to aggravate his injury in the summer...I guess they wouldn't admit it, right?

[YGWHI]

Spurs already have two traditional bigs and play them together some, but not all game, and they are winning with lineups were they are staggered most of the time and sometimes Pau doesn't close a game. To add a third expensive big to those 2 doesn't make sense. For Marc, either GAsol or Lamarcus have to go out in a trade.

Also, for Memphis it doesn't make sense to trade for either guy.

Exactly. Grizz are in a bad situation but they can work for a better trade.

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Would he say he was Rooked?

[dabom]

Would he say he was Rooked?

:lol I knew this shit was gonna happen. :lol

[tonight...you]

:lol I knew this shit was gonna happen. :lol
Low hanging fruit... guilty as charged.

[bklynspursfan]

Would he say he was Rooked?

He tried to rook Marc Gasol

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[r0drig0lac]

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take that for data ..LeGMarc

[spursistan]

Holy shit! :lol

Fizdale wanted to act like he was Pop; but last night he clearly overplayed his hand with the Gasol benching..

[raybies]

He tried to rook Marc Gasol
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[raybies]

:wow at fizdale firing.

[TheDoctor]

Holy shit! :lol

Fizdale wanted to act like he was Pop; but clearly overplayed his hand with the Gasol benching..

Yah, as precarious as their relationship was (per reports), he committed suicide w/ that move.

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So Gasol is officially a "coach killer", but I'm sure he'll be given a free pass by the media because he's white. Instead, they'll pretend it's the 8 game losing streak that did him in. Don't buy it. Been on the job for only 1+ season and the team has maxed out in that time.

Grizzlies need to stop treating Gasol and Conley as if they're Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and re-build; even if the goal is to continue to compete for the right to lose in the 1st round. As spursistan said, they could probably trade Gasol for Love, who's 3 years younger, plus Cavaliers 1st (not Nets pick) or Zizic or maybe both.




If they're willing to do so for DeMonkey/Lou Williams I don't see why they wouldn't for Gasol/whoever the Grizz have cut from a similar vein.

Clippers should trade Jordan, but not for Thompson, Frye and Cavaliers' 1st. Instead, for Gortat, Smith, Satoransky and 1st. They're all up a year earlier than Thompson, so they'd have greater financial flexibility.

[Robz4000]

So Gasol is officially a "coach killer", but I'm sure he'll be given a free pass by the media because he's white. Instead, they'll pretend it's the 8 game losing streak that did him in. Don't buy it. Been on the job for only 1+ season and the team has maxed out in that time.

Grizzlies need to stop treating Gasol and Conley as if they're Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and re-build; even if the goal is to continue to compete for the right to lose in the 1st round. As spursistan said, they could probably trade Gasol for Love, who's 3 years younger, plus Cavaliers 1st (not Nets pick) or Zizic or maybe both.



Clippers should trade Jordan, but not for Thompson, Frye and Cavaliers' 1st. Instead, for Gortat, Smith, Satoransky and 1st. They're all up a year earlier than Thompson, so they'd have greater financial flexibility.

Don't see why the Wiz would make that trade. Gortat means more to the Wiz than Thompson does to the Cavs tbh, and while DeMonkey is the better player in the right situations Gortat fits the Wiz's offense better.

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Don't see why the Wiz would make that trade. Gortat means more to the Wiz than Thompson does to the Cavs tbh, and while DeMonkey is the better player in the right situations Gortat fits the Wiz's offense better.

Wizards are one more significant piece away from having a legit shot to win the East . . . and Jordan's not that player. But he'd still upgrade them and show the team that management is serious about trying to contend now. They were probably hoping Pelicans would flop, so they could pursue Cousins. Gasol probably only comes available if he asks out and he'd more than likely require Oubre and an additional 1st.

Gortat is in decline and has periodically griped about being underappreciated.

[SAGirl]

Grizzlies imploding but geezz bad drafting. then you add the Chandler Parsons contract. :td

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[Robz4000]

Wizards are one more significant piece away from having a legit shot to win the East . . . and Jordan's not that player. But he'd still upgrade them and show the team that management is serious about trying to contend now. They were probably hoping Pelicans would flop, so they could pursue Cousins. Gasol probably only comes available if he asks out and he'd more than likely require Oubre and an additional 1st.

Gortat is in decline and has periodically griped about being underappreciated.

I just can't see the Wiz trading their emotional leader (as overrated as that term is) for a rental of DeMonkey who wouldn't even elevate their ceiling. Wiz have enough as is to at least be a legitimate threat in the East this year; if the Cavs don't make any moves and everyone else stays as is, they're already better than Boston and Toronto currently and close enough to the Cavs to have a legit shot.

[Robz4000]

Grizzlies imploding but geezz bad drafting. then you add the Chandler Parsons contract. :td

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[TD 21]

I just can't see the Wiz trading their emotional leader (as overrated as that term is) for a rental of DeMonkey who wouldn't even elevate their ceiling. Wiz have enough as is to at least be a legitimate threat in the East this year; if the Cavs don't make any moves and everyone else stays as is, they're already better than Boston and Toronto currently and close enough to the Cavs to have a legit shot.

It would obviously be with the intention of getting his Bird rights, so that they could re-sign him. Although they could work out a sign and trade in the off season, but they don't have the flexibility to sign him outright.

As much as I like watching Wall and their greater than the sum of its parts starting lineup, their sub par bench will probably cost them in a series against any of those 3. This wouldn't change the latter, but it should make the former even more formidable.

Think they'd do it in a second. Gortat is in decline, Smith and Satoransky are expensive 11th and 12th men, it's their only path to a significant piece and the only damage is a likely low 20s pick.

[Robz4000]

It would obviously be with the intention of getting his Bird rights, so that they could re-sign him. Although they could work out a sign and trade in the off season, but they don't have the flexibility to sign him outright.

As much as I like watching Wall and their greater than the sum of its parts starting lineup, their sub par bench will probably cost them in a series against any of those 3. This wouldn't change the latter, but it should make the former even more formidable.

Think they'd do it in a second. Gortat is in decline, Smith and Satoransky are expensive for 11th and 12th men, it's their only path to a significant piece and the only damage is a likely low 20s pick.

Even with their mediocre bench I can't see how a choking Toronto team or an overrated Boston team wins 4 out of 7 against a fully healthy Wiz. Imo, Boston is gonna struggle significantly to generate good offense once the postseason comes around and they're much younger than last year's group; you also need to consider the revenge factor in a potential series.

While in decline, Gortat is still more valuable than DeMonkey (at least this season) and trading him opens up a potential rift between the FO and Wall/Beal whom Washington should be much more concerned about keeping together. Wiz should keep their core together and try to add another good bench piece or two.

[raybies]

Grizzlies imploding but geezz bad drafting. then you add the Chandler Parsons contract. :td

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[tonight...you]

I wonder if Memphis is going to go with a Grit 'N Grind coach to replace him (I know he was trying to get the team more up-tempo...), or look toward something else.

[TD 21]

Even with their mediocre bench I can't see how a choking Toronto team or an overrated Boston team wins 4 out of 7 against a fully healthy Wiz. Imo, Boston is gonna struggle significantly to generate good offense once the postseason comes around and they're much younger than last year's group; you also need to consider the revenge factor in a potential series.

While in decline, Gortat is still more valuable than DeMonkey (at least this season) and trading him opens up a potential rift between the FO and Wall/Beal whom Washington should be much more concerned about keeping together. Wiz should keep their core together and try to add another good bench piece or two.

Raptors-Wizards is a tossup, but former has best aggregate best net rating. Celtics' home court and superior depth overcame Wizards last season and they still possess both of those things.

After superstars, playoffs are about having to rely on as few of liabilities as possible. On the surface, this wouldn't appear to help with that, but by further strengthening their starting lineup, it could give them a better chance of outdoing the damage their bench will do.

Jordan is more valuable than Gortat and even though Wall wants a George or Cousins type, Beal and him would probably still be happy with this trade.

[r0drig0lac]

Wizards are one more significant piece away from having a legit shot to win the East . . . and Jordan's not that player. But he'd still upgrade them and show the team that management is serious about trying to contend now. They were probably hoping Pelicans would flop, so they could pursue Cousins. Gasol probably only comes available if he asks out and he'd more than likely require Oubre and an additional 1st.

Gortat is in decline and has periodically griped about being underappreciated.

if this "piece" is a top 10 player, maybe

[r0drig0lac]

It's strange to find the Celtics overrated when all they do is play great defense and ball movement, which is pretty much why SA is so respected in the league

[Robz4000]

It's strange to find the Celtics overrated when all they do is play great defense and ball movement, which is pretty much why SA is so respected in the league

If anything they overpass tbh; even though they have plenty of depth they lack elite scoring and shooting talent outside Kyrie. Their defense is legit, but they struggle to defend big men that can score. If they were to match up against a team like Philly I could see them lose, much less if they play the Wiz or Cleveland.

[r0drig0lac]

If anything they overpass tbh; even though they have plenty of depth they lack elite scoring and shooting talent outside Kyrie. Their defense is legit, but they struggle to defend big men that can score. If they were to match up against a team like Philly I could see them lose, much less if they play the Wiz or Cleveland.

I understand, but I think today the top 3 teams in the East are Celtics, Cavs, 76ers, I do not see any other team guaranteed, although I expected a bigger leap from Milwaukee (maybe with healthy Jabari, who knows)

[Robz4000]

Raptors-Wizards is a tossup, but former has best aggregate best net rating. Celtics' home court and superior depth overcame Wizards last season and they still possess both of those things.

After superstars, playoffs are about having to rely on as few of liabilities as possible. On the surface, this wouldn't appear to help with that, but by further strengthening their starting lineup, it could give them a better chance of outdoing the damage their bench will do.

Jordan is more valuable than Gortat and even though Wall wants a George or Cousins type, Beal and him would probably still be happy with this trade.

We've seen in the past that regular season success means very little to Toronto come playoff time, and since the two last met in the postseason a few years ago the Wiz have improved while Toronto has not. I just don't think Boston has the ability to score enough against the likes of Cleveland and Washington, and their depth could disappear in the playoffs like the early '10s Spurs due to inexperience.

Really don't think DeMonkey makes the Wiz any better than they are with Gortat, at least for this season. Barring some inexplicable trade for a Top-15 player, I don't see how their SL can get any better. Their only avenue to improve is via the bench.

[Robz4000]

I understand, but I think today the top 3 teams in the East are Celtics, Cavs, 76ers, I do not see any other team guaranteed, although I expected a bigger leap from Milwaukee (maybe with healthy Jabari, who knows)

Regular season perhaps, but you underestimate how battle-tested some of these teams are. I give shit to Toronto for constantly choking in the playoffs but they find ways to win regardless, and the Wiz have the most overall talent outside Cleveland currently in the East.

[r0drig0lac]

Regular season perhaps, but you underestimate how battle-tested some of these teams are. I give shit to Toronto for constantly choking in the playoffs but they find ways to win regardless, and the Wiz have the most overall talent outside Cleveland currently in the East.

I think we'll have to wait and see, but I think Celtics have the best player (irving), better duo (Irving and Horford) than any Wizards duo, best defense, best coach and especially better depth, I basically do not see anything much in that washington team, think they would lose up to the Bucks in a series.

[Robz4000]

I think we'll have to wait and see, but I think Celtics have the best player (irving), better duo (Irving and Horford) than any Wizards duo, best defense, best coach and especially better depth, I basically do not see anything much in that washington team, think they would lose up to the Bucks in a series.

:lmao Horford, and Irving isn't better than Wall either. Boston does have the better coach and defense, but I'm not sold on their depth come playoff time.

[r0drig0lac]

:lmao Horford, and Irving isn't better than Wall either. Boston does have the better coach and defense, but I'm not sold on their depth come playoff time.

I see Horford as a super diaw, I do not think Porter or Beal are any better than him, but anyway, they are personal opinions

[TD 21]

if this "piece" is a top 10 player, maybe

Yeah, as much as I like Wall, he's not quite good enough to be the best player on a championship team and outside of '14 Spurs, an all-time ensemble case, that's been what's required to beat prime James, with All-Star help.

Still, if you're close like they are and can get incrementally better without giving up much, you do it and hope you get the requisite luck along the way to get over the hump one of these years.




We've seen in the past that regular season success means very little to Toronto come playoff time, and since the two last met in the postseason a few years ago the Wiz have improved while Toronto has not. I just don't think Boston has the ability to score enough against the likes of Cleveland and Washington, and their depth could disappear in the playoffs like the early '10s Spurs due to inexperience.

Really don't think DeMonkey makes the Wiz any better than they are with Gortat, at least for this season. Barring some inexplicable trade for a Top-15 player, I don't see how their SL can get any better. Their only avenue to improve is via the bench.

Whichever way you'd lean, it's close enough between Celtics, Raptors, Wizards, that any incremental improvement could conceivably swing a series.

Think you're underestimating Wall's ability to have a Paul like impact on Jordan offensively and the fact that they don't really have the assets to improve their bench. They'll probably have to rely on the buy out market.

[raybies]

Both pg and melos previous teams are doing better without them. Coincidence?

[raybies]

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[BatManu20]

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[raybies]

watching this GS game... sleeper loss. well maybe

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Jack is a bitter loser tbh.

[DAF86]

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Stephen Jackson being a bitch per the usual. Getting rid of this delusional mediocre player is probably one of the best coaching moves on Pop's career. We won one as soon as this cancer left the team.

You have to be a special kind of asshole to get people to side with Parsons, tbh.

[raybies]

Frank Mason :wow he deserves to be starting next to Hill.

[raybies]

c'mon kings dont f up

[sasaint]

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NBA officiating... :lmao

[raybies]

good work kings

[DAF86]

Did the Warriors trully lose to the Kings at home? :lol

[raybies]

they didn't have KD or Steph but yes

[DAF86]

Oh, no Curry and no Durant. Well, not every team can still be good without their starting PG and SF, tbh.

[spursistan]

Did the Warriors trully lose to the Kings at home? :lol
No KD/Curry..

Raymond as top 2 offensive option :lmao..14 pts (4-15)/4 rebs/8 assist

[daslicer]

No KD/Curry..

Raymond as top 2 offensive option :lmao..14 pts (4-15)/4 rebs/8 assist

I have said so many times the last few years this guy would be a scrub on a regular team.

[DAF86]

Man if only Kawhi was healthy we could be looking at the best record in the NBA right now. Indiana, GS, Bucks, Minnesota maybe even Boston and Pelicans would have been wins with Kawhi out there.

[raybies]

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[raybies]

Oh, no Curry and no Durant. Well, not every team can still be good without their starting PG and SF, tbh.
:toast

[spursistan]

With the way Dubs are coasting and taking random Ls this season; looks like Houston might get the top seed..

[daslicer]

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The way he got injured looks very similar to the time when Kobe accidentally injured Bynum.

[DAF86]

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As if Blake needed extra help getting injured. That sucks.

[raybies]

The way he got injured looks very similar to the time when Kobe accidentally injured Bynum.
feel for Clipper Nation.

[Robz4000]

:lmao fucking Auscrub Rivers killing Blake's leg now. Guess killing the team wasn't enough for him?

[TimDunkem]

What the fuck is wrong with Rivers? Throwing himself into Blake's leg, let alone going for the ball to begin with, was completely unnecessary. What a stupid play.

[NASpurs]

The cursed Clippers shit-franchise is slowing returning.

[BatManu20]

:lmao fucking Auscrub Rivers killing Blake's leg now. Guess killing the team wasn't enough for him?


:lol Only reason he's still in the league is bc of daddy

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Only reason he's still in the league is bc of daddy
And Paddy Mills.

[spursistan]

:lol H:lolllinger
This nigga keep getting passes in the media, tbh (he sure got a lot of friends there)..He's had zero imprint on the Memphis roster since he got hired nearly 5 years ago..Can't remember Grizz winning a single trade or getting a draft steal in the entire tenure of this nerd after coming in with all the analytics hype..

[RD2191]

And Paddy Mills.

Tbh

[TimDunkem]

And Paddy Mills.

Damn. :lol

[TheDoctor]

And Paddy Mills.
It is known.

[Stabula]

:lol Doc Rivers blaming Lonzo Ball instead of his autistic son. To be fair Blake Griffin was going to find some way or the other to get injured.

[r0drig0lac]

Man if only Kawhi was healthy we could be looking at the best record in the NBA right now. Indiana, GS, Bucks, Minnesota maybe even Boston and Pelicans would have been wins with Kawhi out there.

maybe???

[Fireball]

what if ... great stuff

[YGWHI]

It's strange to find the Celtics overrated when all they do is play great defense and ball movement, which is pretty much why SA is so respected in the league

I wouldn't compare both teams. The Celtics have athletic and young top picks. It's fun to watch Boston with Irving, Tatum and Brown, their offense is not just ball movement, it's the way they finish plays, the dunks, the fast-breaks, the Uncle Drew crazy buckets, the things that media and casual fans love.

On other hand, you know, most reporters think the Spurs never were young...

[YGWHI]

I know Fizdale was Lebron's guy but players have to respect other franchises' FOs.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/lebron-dwyane-wade-call-for-answers-after-memphis-fires-david-fizdale

"I need answers" :cry

[SAGirl]

Oh, no Curry and no Durant. Well, not every team can still be good without their starting PG and SF, tbh.
chaaaaa-chiiiiiing!!!!!!
Truth hurts!
:lmao
:flag:

[SAGirl]

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Rivers...

[SAGirl]

I know Fizdale was Lebron's guy but players have to respect other franchises' FOs.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/lebron-dwyane-wade-call-for-answers-after-memphis-fires-david-fizdale

"I need answers" :cry
It's a thin line for sure. That's not their business. They don't know what the heck is going on there, nor is it their problem. Memphis may not even be done imploding.

[cjw]

they didn't have KD or Steph but yes

Amazing the Spurs without Kawhi are one game in the loss column behind the Warriors. And they’ve taken care of business at home against bad teams despite no Kawhi (and Parker till last night) with the only losses being GS and MIL.

West is significantly down this year with Hou and GS having an outsized net Rtg (both over 10) and only Portland and OKC joining the Spurs above +3.0. Conference is also two games below .500, which hasn’t happened in ages. But imagine with a healthy Kawhi that would flip.

[Dex]

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HERE COMES AUSTIN RIVERS!!!!

[SAGirl]

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not sure how they calculate their "analytics" impact, but thought it an interesting graphic nonetheless.

[Dex]

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not sure how they calculate their "analytics" impact, but thought it an interesting graphic nonetheless.

That's funny, I thought that Anderson and Pau were supposed to be awful defenders.

[DAF86]

maybe???

What do you mean son?

[Fireball]

What do you mean son? he means with Kawhi we win all these games ... which of course is bullshit ... Spurs have lost plenty of games against bad teams in the past with Kawhi on board ...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

That's funny, I thought that Anderson and Pau were supposed to be awful defenders.

Pau's at his career best in DRtg and near best DBPM. Anderson's defensive numbers have always been good as well.

Additionally, LMA's ORtg and OBPM are by far his career best.

[r0drig0lac]

he means with Kawhi we win all these games ... which of course is bullshit ... Spurs have lost plenty of games against bad teams in the past with Kawhi on board ...

as well as any prediction (including that I quoted), but you know, in a sports forum, they are done anyway

[Seventyniner]

That's funny, I thought that Anderson and Pau were supposed to be awful defenders.

Pau is, at least against the PnR and switching on the perimeter. Anderson is solid though.

[Dex]

Pau is, at least against the PnR and switching on the perimeter. Anderson is solid though.

Pau's seven feet tall and pushing 40. Some players just aren't meant to guard the perimeter.

He is still a very valuable post and help defender, as evidenced by this chart at the fact that the Spurs have been one of the top teams in defensive efficiency the two years he has been here playing heavy minutes (1st last year, 4th so far this year).

[spursistan]

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Trade Deandre and tank..No way around it for the Clippers..

[BatManu20]

Now the Cavs are suddenly unbeatable? Up by 30 pts on Miami, about to win their 9th straight.

[BatManu20]

Damn even IT is gonna be back before Kawhi, smh..


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[SAGirl]

Now the Cavs are suddenly unbeatable? Up by 30 pts on Miami, about to win their 9th straight.
nah Miami has been bad lately. Holy Shit!
I thought JSimms was in a 7 game losing streak... they have lost 9 games in a row!!!!!

[Spurtacular]

Damn even IT is gonna be back before Kawhi, smh..


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Tbh, I never really heard of hip injuries being serious outside of senior citizens and steroid users (eg Bo Jackson) before.

[Hoops Czar]

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not sure how they calculate their "analytics" impact, but thought it an interesting graphic nonetheless.
That's why rebounding should be considered a miscellaneous stat because it makes players like Pau look like good defenders when they're actually not.

[BatManu20]

Lebron just got ejected for the first time in his career. Never thought I'd see the day tbh.



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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Lebron just got ejected for the first time in his career. Never thought I'd see the day.


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[SAGirl]

That's why rebounding should be considered a miscellaneous stat because it makes players like Pau look like good defenders when they're actually not.
I really don't want to go down in the rabbit hole of discussing analytics or what not, as that is not my forte... just saw a nice chart and posted it.
but you can't finish a defensive possession without a rebound and not securing rebounds is a problem... now that stat doesn't account for the teammate that boxed out a big for the other to grab a board... so it's flawed. Also, doesn't show which rebounds were really contested or anything... it's definitely flawed if looked at just flat raw rebounds. Gasol has been good defending at the rim, if he's already standing there of course. He's blocking shots and just being a wall. If he has to move in space that's different.

[raybies]

nah Miami has been bad lately. Holy Shit!
I thought JSimms was in a 7 game losing streak... they have lost 9 games in a row!!!!!
They actually just started putting him in the starting lineup like a game ago too. He's putting numbers up but they ain't winning...

[raybies]

Lebron just got ejected for the first time in his career. Never thought I'd see the day tbh.



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[spursistan]

Wizards without Wall just stole one in Minnesota :tu..

I know the schedule has been piss-easy for most part, but is quite amazing that the Spurs are 3rd seed out West, and still within striking distance of HOU/GSW, despite Kawhi missing the first 25 games or so of the season..

[Seventyniner]

I really don't want to go down in the rabbit hole of discussing analytics or what not, as that is not my forte... just saw a nice chart and posted it.
but you can't finish a defensive possession without a rebound and not securing rebounds is a problem... now that stat doesn't account for the teammate that boxed out a big for the other to grab a board... so it's flawed. Also, doesn't show which rebounds were really contested or anything... it's definitely flawed if looked at just flat raw rebounds. Gasol has been good defending at the rim, if he's already standing there of course. He's blocking shots and just being a wall. If he has to move in space that's different.

You can also finish a defensive possession with a turnover. But that's only around 13% of the time so your point is still valid, defensive rebounding is really important.

Pau is like late career Tim, he can play good defense "in a phone booth" (as Chinook likes to say) but struggles otherwise. Pau isn't nearly the vocal leader that Tim was on defense, but his strengths and limitations are similar.

[spursistan]

Wizards without Wall just stole one in Minnesota :tu..

I know the schedule has been piss-easy for most part, but is quite amazing that the Spurs are 3rd seed out West, and still within striking distance of HOU/GSW, despite Kawhi missing the first 25 games or so of the season..

:lmao not to mention Thibs: Taj Gibson (41 minutes), Towns ( 39 minutes) Butler (38 minutes), and Wiggins (37 minutes), yet still taking an L to a Wall-ess Washington and Beal (7 points) with a B2B in New Orleans awaiting..

This dude is a vastly overrated coach, IMO..

[Clipper Nation]

Lebron just got ejected for the first time in his career. Never thought I'd see the day tbh.



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Draymond behaves a million times worse than that every single game and never gets ejected.

[UZER]

I know Fizdale was Lebron's guy but players have to respect other franchises' FOs.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/lebron-dwyane-wade-call-for-answers-after-memphis-fires-david-fizdale

"I need answers" :cry

:lol

Who in the flying hell do these guys think they are?

[tholdren]

:lol

Who in the flying hell do these guys think they are?

The real owners of the nba... thanks playerfans

[DAF86]

:lmao not to mention Thibs: Taj Gibson (41 minutes), Towns ( 39 minutes) Butler (38 minutes), and Wiggins (37 minutes), yet still taking an L to a Wall-ess Washington and Beal (7 points) with a B2B in New Orleans awaiting..

This dude is a vastly overrated coach, IMO..

Plus the backup PG (who is starting because Teague is Thibbed) with 40 minutes. He is so against playing his reserves that even a perennial 6th man award winner can't get more than 16/18 minutes under him. :lol

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

#MeloEffect


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[BatManu20]

Meanwhile the Knicks win in another blowout tonight and have a winning record 21 games into the season :lol . Dat #MeloEffect

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

Warriors just don't give a fuck about taking care of the ball sometimes. :lol

[Budkin]

Warriors just don't give a fuck about taking care of the ball sometimes. :lol

Why bother when you can just decide to win a game later on?

[DAF86]

Go LA.











I feel dirty.

[DAF86]

Lakers' youth showing at the end of regulation. They had the game on the bag, all they needed to do was paying extra attention on defending the three after that 3pt play from KCP.

[DAF86]

Dagger just 52 seconds into OT. :lol

[DAF86]

Lakers spamming the iso on the final moments of the game. Walton failed to come up with the goods.

[Dex]

Go LA.











I feel dirty.

Two Curry threes.

Just like that, game over.

[raybies]

game over

[BatManu20]

Game was over after Curry's 3s. Brandon Ingram cost the Lakers this game with his shit play tbh.

[DAF86]

Game was over after Curry's 3s. Brandon Ingram cost the Lakers this game with his shit play tbh.

I blame Walton for his shitty playcalling. In fact, I blame him for calling a TO when the Lakers had the advantage on the break on the last possession of the game.

[SAGirl]

As they said: threw away a good scoring game from Lonzo...:cry

Here's Antonio Daniels commenting on the OKC situation
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[raybies]

Ingram :wow

[BatManu20]

Curry with the epic flop and the refs fall for it smh

[DAF86]

Fuck that shit man. :lmao

[DAF86]

Smh young Lakers and Walton. How do you have Ingram boxing out Draymond Green on a FT? :Facepalm:

Walton got seriously exposed on this game, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

GS ALWAYS gets those lucky offensive rebounds. It never fails...

[raybies]

was that the play that Walton drew up?

[raybies]

As they said: threw away a good scoring game from Lonzo...:cry

Here's Antonio Daniels commenting on the OKC situation
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:wow Daniels

[daslicer]

Smh young Lakers and Walton. How do you have Ingram boxing out Draymond Green on a FT? :Facepalm:

Walton got seriously exposed on this game, tbh.

That was like a Pop type of screw up. Ingram threw this game away from the Lakers. He could have wont the game in the 4th quarter but missed the layup. If he had hit all of his freethrows in the OT the Lakers could have won.

[BatManu20]

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[TheDoctor]

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[raybies]

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feel bad for him.

[DAF86]

Wow, Nurkic just had one of the cleanest blocks I have ever seen and the refs just gifted the NBA's new shiny toy (Giannis) two freebies. If you didn't catch it live, search for it on youtube because that must have been one of the worst calls ever. I mean, there was no contact whatsoever. You know how sometimes a guy blocks another, the block is legal but then the bodies collide or something? Well, there was nothing of that on this play, it was all ball and nothing but ball.

[DAF86]

Bucks beat the Blazers in Portland. 2 games of cushion in the loss column.

[raybies]

Bucks beat the Blazers in Portland. 2 games of cushion in the loss column.
:toast

[BillMc]

They say after 20 games the playoff teams are almost always statistically set only the final standings order and status of the 7 - 10 usually fluctuate.

If so, is OKC going to right themselves and get in the playoffs? Or does the death spiral continue.

[SAGirl]

Wow, Nurkic just had one of the cleanest blocks I have ever seen and the refs just gifted the NBA's new shiny toy (Giannis) two freebies. If you didn't catch it live, search for it on youtube because that must have been one of the worst calls ever. I mean, there was no contact whatsoever. You know how sometimes a guy blocks another, the block is legal but then the bodies collide or something? Well, there was nothing of that on this play, it was all ball and nothing but ball.
wow I saw it... what a bullshit call. Nurkic was justified in complaining. League owes him his fine back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemHz-jQzZQ

[DAF86]

You can miss a foul here and there or confusing who touched it last, but calling something that you couldn't have seen because it just didn't exist is the worst mistake a ref can make.

[BatManu20]

Brutal call. Great block by Nurkic.

[tholdren]

wow I saw it... what a bullshit call. Nurkic was justified in complaining. League owes him his fine back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemHz-jQzZQ

Got to make stars into stars.

[SAGirl]

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[sasaint]

wow I saw it... what a bullshit call. Nurkic was justified in complaining. League owes him his fine back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemHz-jQzZQ

Y'all are blind. Nurkic's right shoulder clearly comes into contact with Giannis' left palm.

[skulls138]

Got to make stars into stars.What else could it be? Not a conspiracy theory type but it was as clean as clean can get.

[sasaint]

Ric Renner in the Spurs postgame show just stated that Melo has take as many shots so far this season in OKC as he did all last season in NY! But I digress; the OKC woes are because of Westbrook...

[raybies]

anyone else aware of D. Mitchell's night for the Jazz tonight. He's looking like the steal of the draft...

[tbdog]

AD just went down

[raybies]

If Hayward and Hill would of stayed they would probably be somewhere near the top. But what Utah is doing is pretty remarkable. Quin deserves a lot of credit.

[tbdog]

anyone else aware of D. Mitchell's night for the Jazz tonight. He's looking like the steal of the draft...
Picked him up in fantasy. When was he drafted?

[TimDunkem]

And many here were saying this draft class was garbage :lol

[spursistan]

Gobert-less Jazz about to beat Pelicans.

Spurs are starting to get some breathing room for that 3rd seed, and that's even before Kawhi steps on the floor, which will be very soon. All in all, I think it is safe to say that we have managed to survive his injury in the best way we could..

[raybies]

I'm legit happy for the Jazz fans. Losing such an important player, yet striking gold. It's unreal.

[raybies]

Picked him up in fantasy. When was he drafted?
13, i believe. Jazz traded up for him. All it took was Trey Lyles basically to the Nuggets.

[raybies]

And many here were saying this draft class was garbage :lol
Next big generation is here it looks like. It's been slow the last several years...

[TimDunkem]

If Hayward and Hill would of stayed they would probably be somewhere near the top. But what Utah is doing is pretty remarkable. Quin deserves a lot of credit.
He's underrated. That cokehead horndog is a very solid coach.

[raybies]

Gobert-less Jazz about to beat Pelicans.

Spurs are starting to get some breathing room for that 3rd seed, and that's even before Kawhi steps on the floor, which will be very soon. All in all, I think it is safe to say that we have managed to survive his injury in the best way we could..
we are a game and half behind GS, so we standing pretty good right now. just one game back in the loss column.

[Ice009]

I thought Mitchell was great in the game against in the Spurs in Summer League. I thought he looked like a very legit player just based on that game alone.

How did he play tonight? And how has he played this season overall?

[raybies]

He's underrated. That cokehead horndog is a very solid coach.
:lol he does have an intense focus about him

[spursistan]

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Damn, these are the worst type of injures..Hopefully nothing serious for AD, but it doesn't look good..Shades of how Parker went down vs Houston..

[NASpurs]

AD just went down

A phrase people say year in, year out.

[TimDunkem]

Death, taxes, Anthony Davis getting hurt.

[raybies]

:wow AD dang man.

[NASpurs]

"Friendly reminder that the Denver Nuggets traded Donovan Mitchell (the 13th pick) of the draft to the Utah Jazz for Trey Lyles and the 24th pick (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7h0lv8/friendly_reminder_that_the_denver_nuggets_traded/)"

For Trey Lyles and some guy who is playing in the G-League :lol

(https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7h0lv8/friendly_reminder_that_the_denver_nuggets_traded/)

[raybies]

I thought Mitchell was great in the game against in the Spurs in Summer League. I thought he looked like a very legit player just based on that game alone.

How did he play tonight? And how has he played this season overall?
First rookie to score 40 pts since Blake in 2011. He was spectacular. As for the season he's avg. 15 pts before this 40 pt game so it's about to go up. He's been balling. Like a shooting guard version of Lillard imo, but he plays D.

[raybies]

For Trey Lyles and some guy who is playing in the G-League :lol

Friendly reminder that the Denver Nuggets traded Donovan Mitchell (the 13th pick) of the draft to the Utah Jazz for Trey Lyles and the 24th pick (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7h0lv8/friendly_reminder_that_the_denver_nuggets_traded/)
and that's how franchises are saved lol

[sasaint]

I thought Mitchell was great in the game against in the Spurs in Summer League. I thought he looked like a very legit player just based on that game alone.

How did he play tonight? And how has he played this season overall?

I saw that game, too. He was clearly the best player on the floor. He looked very legit NBA-level.

[raybies]

Wait so Denver traded them Gobert and Mitchell??!!?? :wow

[Robz4000]

Pelicans need to get what they can for AD at this point while his value is still high.

[SAGirl]

If Hayward and Hill would of stayed they would probably be somewhere near the top. But what Utah is doing is pretty remarkable. Quin deserves a lot of credit.
wow donovan mitchell.
I had seen some hype online on twitter but since I do not watch the Jazz at all and they had so many injuries I figured someone had to step up for them, no big deal.

wow him carrying that roster. wow again. :wow Rubio 0 pts.
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/utah.png&h=100&w=100Jazz



STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


J. Jerebko (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3998/jonas-jerebko)PF
22
4-7
0-1
0-0
1
5
6
2
0
1
0
3
+20
8


D. Favors (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4257/derrick-favors)PF
34
7-9
0-0
4-7
4
7
11
5
2
0
2
0
+7
18


J. Ingles (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2968436/joe-ingles)SF
39
4-8
3-6
2-2
0
5
5
7
1
0
2
2
+1
13


R. Rubio (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4011/ricky-rubio)PG
25
0-7
0-2
0-2
0
7
7
4
1
0
0
2
-5
0


D. Mitchell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3908809/donovan-mitchell)SG
37
13-25
6-12
9-11
0
4
4
4
0
0
3
3
+11
41


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


T. Sefolosha (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3028/thabo-sefolosha)SF
26
3-5
2-3
0-0
0
4
4
0
0
0
0
0
-14
8


R. O'Neale (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2583632/royce-oneale)SF
12
0-3
0-1
0-0
0
2
2
1
0
0
1
0
+5
0


E. Udoh (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4261/ekpe-udoh)C
14
1-4
0-0
0-0
3
1
4
1
1
1
0
4
-1
2


A. Burks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6429/alec-burks)SG
31
10-17
1-5
3-3
0
3
3
1
2
1
0
1
+6
24

[SAGirl]

And many here were saying this draft class was garbage :lol
think drafted 13 in 2017 by Denver traded for Trey Lyles

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchdo01.html

[tmtcsc]

I was thisclose to starting a thread titled "KD WILL GET TOSSED OUT OF GAME SOON". After Lebron got tossed for the first time ever, it was only a matter of time (sooner rather than later as Poop would say) until KD FOLLOWED. The dude has no identity and is a follower to the nth degree. He makes me ill.

[rastaspur]

He's underrated. That cokehead horndog is a very solid coach.

:lol

Quinn is smart as hell. However, he's got some real demons. He has that American psycho / serial killer vibe to him.

[SAGirl]

off topic, but spurs do need to hit a home run with one of their young guards at some point.... :sleep