Official 2017-18 NBA Season Thread

[BatManu20]

Needed a place to post new tweets about the season and it was time to retire the offseason thread.




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[BatManu20]

Injury Update: Kawhi Out 2-3 Weeks (Mind Blown)


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[SAGirl]

solid thread to start BatManu :toast

[BatManu20]

solid thread to start BatManu :toast


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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-news-tues-s20171024-story.html

Hassan Whiteside out for Heat vs. Spurs; Dion Waiters, Goran Dragic ailing

[BatManu20]

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[Robz4000]

Injury Update: Kawhi Out 2-3 Weeks (Mind Blown)


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Where'd you see the update for Kiwi?

[BatManu20]

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-news-tues-s20171024-story.html

Hassan Whiteside out for Heat vs. Spurs; Dion Waiters, Goran Dragic ailing


Nice. Without Whiteside, we should be able to get whatever we want inside. Olynyk can't hold LA.

[BatManu20]

Grit 'N Grind. Impressive.


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[BatManu20]

Week 2 MVP favorite for sure.

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[RD2191]

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-news-tues-s20171024-story.html

Hassan Whiteside out for Heat vs. Spurs; Dion Waiters, Goran Dragic ailing

That sucks. Hope it's not a boring game.

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[NASpurs]

Rockets are really desperate for point guards, aren't they :lol

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[marinoman]

Injury Update: Kawhi Out 2-3 Weeks (Mind Blown)


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I guess h-e-b is really concerned they won’t be recognized out of their jerseys, having picnics, bbqing, cooking all in jerseys

[Dex]

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That's weird, there were people around here saying that "DLeague Green" doesn't deserve to be on an NBA team.

[Chinook]

Grit 'N Grind. Impressive.


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What a POS stat. The Spurs were 2-5 against GS and 7-3 against Houston, and 0-0 against themselves. Boom, winning record. Warriors were 5-2 against SA, 3-1 against Houston and 0-0 against themselves. Another winning record. Adding in Memphis for either team doesn't change those results.

[Dex]

Grit 'N Grind. Impressive.


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I still think that Pop is low-key trying to copy that model.

Murray - Green - Kawhi - Gay/Anderson - Aldridge/Gasol

Those are some long and physical teams right there.

[dabom]

I still think that Pop is low-key trying to copy that model.

Murray - Green - Kawhi - Gay/Anderson - Aldridge/Gasol

Those are some long and physical teams right there.

What?

[BatManu20]

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[hooperflash]

Needed a place to post new tweets about the season and it was time to retire the offseason thread.




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God Bless U

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[SPURt]

Not really sure where to put this, but it’s an article about Kobe speaking French and taking trash to Tony in French.

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-video-kobe-bryant-trash-talk-tony-parker-french/ (https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-video-kobe-bryant-trash-talk-tony-parker-french/)

[Dex]

What?

Most teams are trying to go small and fast so that they can copy the Warriors. To me, that seems like a recipe for disaster; you aren't going to out-shoot that team.

The Spurs, in contrast, are still rolling out two bigs, going with guys who are long and defensive, and living in the mid-range and post.

Not saying the Spurs will ever grit-&-grind like Memphis does, but we are still trying to slow the pace and attack the one possible weakness Golden State has: size and rebounding.

[NASpurs]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-injury-report-10/24/17

Joffrey Lauvergne (sprained right ankle), Kawhi Leonard (right quadriceps tendinopathy) and Tony Parker (left quadriceps tendon surgery) are out for tomorrow’s Spurs-Heat game. Lauvergne, Leonard and Parker did not travel with the team to Miami.

[raybies]

Hope Pau comes off the bench

[marinoman]

Now Leonard isn’t traveling with the team?

[spursistan]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-injury-report-10/24/17

Joffrey Lauvergne (sprained right ankle), Kawhi Leonard (right quadriceps tendinopathy) and Tony Parker (left quadriceps tendon surgery) are out for tomorrow’s Spurs-Heat game. Lauvergne, Leonard and Parker did not travel with the team to Miami.

So Kawhi is basically out another 10 days and will miss the 4-game trip, and there is no way they allow him back vs the Warriors..That's two weeks from now.:bang..

I guess he traveled with the team to Chicago to seek another medical opinion or something..This is really getting worrisome..

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[raybies]

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actually like that lineup. With Smith in the lineup I'd start Thompson over Love.

[BillMc]

Now Leonard isn’t traveling with the team?

Yep


Joffrey Lauvergne (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/199695/joffrey-lauvergne) (sprained right ankle), Kawhi Leonard (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/132534/kawhi-leonard) (right quadriceps tendinopathy) and Tony Parker (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21781/tony-parker) (left quadriceps tendon surgery) are out for tomorrow’s Spurs-Heat game. Lauvergne, Leonard and Parker did not travel with the team to Miami.

[tonight...you]

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Word. Now we talking.

[SAGirl]

Grit 'N Grind. Impressive.


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Coach Fizdale:
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They are desperate right?

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Good to know, thanks for posting. :tu
Maybe he's going to start contact practice soon to get ready to join the team. I imagine they will have him practice without getting symptoms b4 an actual game.

[dabom]

Most teams are trying to go small and fast so that they can copy the Warriors. To me, that seems like a recipe for disaster; you aren't going to out-shoot that team.

The Spurs, in contrast, are still rolling out two bigs, going with guys who are long and defensive, and living in the mid-range and post.

Not saying the Spurs will ever grit-&-grind like Memphis does, but we are still trying to slow the pace and attack the one possible weakness Golden State has: size and rebounding.

The grizz are like jv Spurs dude. The Spurs aren't trying to be the grizz is all I was saying.

[BackHome]

Man I watched the Grizz VS LaLa Golden Girls and they look like a totally different team then last year. They ain’t no joke

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Also, Gordon about to become a MIP and a max player next summer maybe?
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[BatManu20]

Man Anthony Davis can't seem to stay healthy either. Dude is always banged up.

[Robz4000]

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God damn

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[BatManu20]

Quietly having a great season so far. He's going to be a good player for a long time.


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He can stroke it.


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[Ice009]

Yeah, Jaylen Brown is awesome. I saw flashes last season just in the games against the Spurs. I was kind of pissed when the Cavs asked for him too. If they got him as well in the haul for Kyrie, they would have fleeced the Celtics.

BatManu20, where did you get the Kawhi will be out for 2-3 weeks from in your second post, or did you just make that up to go along with that H-E-B video?

[TheDoctor]

Yeah, Jaylen Brown is awesome. I saw flashes last season just in the games against the Spurs. I was kind of pissed when the Cavs asked for him too. If they got him as well in the haul for Kyrie, they would have fleeced the Celtics.

BatManu20, where did you get the Kawhi will be out for 2-3 weeks from in your second post, or did you just make that up to go along with that H-E-B video?
From Apa’s sauce.

[NASpurs]

Man Anthony Davis can't seem to stay healthy either. Dude is always banged up.

So he injured his knee during warmups and decided to still play? Uhhhh...

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So Kawhi is basically out another 10 days and will miss the 4-game trip, and there is no way they allow him back vs the Warriors..That's two weeks from now.:bang..

I guess he traveled with the team to Chicago to seek another medical opinion or something..This is really getting worrisome..

Quad inflammation and similar injuries, i.e. tendinopathy, can take a varying amount of time to heal. Could be weeks, could be months. Pretty sure the Spurs have no idea currently - he's taking meds and doing regular massages/stretches and that's about everything they can do.

[r0drig0lac]

I still think that Pop is low-key trying to copy that model.


funny

[Dex]

So he injured his knee during warmups and decided to still play? Uhhhh...

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:lolicans.

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http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/10/25/spurs-popovich-praises-murrays-leadership-after-aldridge-ibaka-altercation/

Murray pulled Aldridge aside after the dust up to offer some calming words. As Popovich moved in their direction, Murray gestured to the coach that he would handle the situation.


“I thought that was really pretty wonderful leadership for a young guy like that who is just finding his way to go ahead and calm him down like that,” Popovich said after shootaround Wednesday morning. “I was actually going over and he kind of waved me away like, “I got this. I’m OK. I don’t need you over here.’

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Only 19. Going to be a good player for BKN.

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[NASpurs]

Steve Nash and Kerr without a shirt :lol

https://www.facebook.com/stevenash/photos/a.92050560249.115649.77922840249/10155584153815250/?type=3&theater


My own personal ring ceremony. Want to thank everyone who came out and for all the support. Clothing was optional but good vibes mandatory. Go Dubs

[Dex]

Steve Nash and Kerr without a shirt :lol

https://www.facebook.com/stevenash/photos/a.92050560249.115649.77922840249/10155584153815250/?type=3&theater






Did they do this in a conference room at Holiday Inn or what?

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[BatManu20]

J-Smoove is back.

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[TheDoctor]

J-Smoove is back.

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Over/Under 15.5 games till first locker-room fight w/ Boogie?

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[spursistan]

I know it is early, but the pre-season hype of teams such us Nuggets and Wolves and maybe even OKC was ridiculous after their FA splashes..

The West pecking order hasn't changed much in the West: Dubs/Spurs/Rockets are lock for top 3 seed barring a major injury and I'd still pick teams like Memphis/Blazers/Clippers to beat off Denver/Wolves for the middle and lower playoff seeds..Only the Jazz seems likely to miss out..

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[BillMc]

Over/Under 15.5 games till first locker-room fight w/ Boogie?

10 until fisticuffs. Knife fight by all star break. :lol

[TheDoctor]

10 until fisticuffs. Knife fight by all star break. :lol

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[NASpurs]

Jonathon Simmons Raves About Lessons Learned From Spurs

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/jonathon-simmons-raves-about-lessons-learned-spurs

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"I actually think I struggled in the Spurs system because I was like this (in and out) all of the time,’’ Simmons, 28, said recently, referring to the 14.8 and 17.9 minutes a game he played in two seasons in San Antonio. ``Pop always wants you to slow down and learn a lot of things and that’s was great for me because I learned a lot. But now I think it’s time to release the animal inside of me.’’

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"(Leaving San Antonio) didn’t make me mad at all. For one, with all of the things that I’ve been through (in contract negotiations), it makes me understand the business of basketball a little more,’’ Simmons said on Thursday after the Magic conducted a lengthy practice to prep for the Spurs. ``I know now to never get emotional about (contract talks) because sometimes things just happen and you have to make the best out of it. I think I made the best out of it by coming here to Orlando and I’m making the best out of it with this team.

"Pop understood that and I explained that to him,’’ added Simmons, referring to his desire for a bigger role on the team. ``I told him that I just couldn’t play at the highest level that I wanted to there (in San Antonio). I want to become great and play against those elite guys every night myself. He tipped his hat to me and told me if I ever needed anything else from him he’d be there for me. We still have a great relationship and I’m looking forward to seeing him.’’

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Jonathon Simmons Raves About Lessons Learned From Spurs

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/jonathon-simmons-raves-about-lessons-learned-spurs

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"I actually think I struggled in the Spurs system because I was like this (in and out) all of the time,’’ Simmons, 28, said recently, referring to the 14.8 and 17.9 minutes a game he played in two seasons in San Antonio. ``Pop always wants you to slow down and learn a lot of things and that’s was great for me because I learned a lot. But now I think it’s time to release the animal inside of me.’’

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"(Leaving San Antonio) didn’t make me mad at all. For one, with all of the things that I’ve been through (in contract negotiations), it makes me understand the business of basketball a little more,’’ Simmons said on Thursday after the Magic conducted a lengthy practice to prep for the Spurs. ``I know now to never get emotional about (contract talks) because sometimes things just happen and you have to make the best out of it. I think I made the best out of it by coming here to Orlando and I’m making the best out of it with this team.

"Pop understood that and I explained that to him,’’ added Simmons, referring to his desire for a bigger role on the team. ``I told him that I just couldn’t play at the highest level that I wanted to there (in San Antonio). I want to become great and play against those elite guys every night myself. He tipped his hat to me and told me if I ever needed anything else from him he’d be there for me. We still have a great relationship and I’m looking forward to seeing him.’’

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Thanks for sharing. That is exactly what I thought based on prior statements he and his agent said. He might have had a level of disappointment that the Spurs only made a QO but eventually accepted that it's just business. When Pop called him to tell him the Spurs still wanted him and what not, he had already made up his mind to move on to a different team. It was entirely his choice to leave. He's very clear about that and playing time and shot opportunities and role were a big part of that.

I agree that it's very difficult for a young player to get a rhythm (it's difficult for veterans too, which is why Pop still plays veterans despite them having a bad game and sometimes some 0fers consecutively like Manu in the playoffs)... When your playing time varies and is unpredictable it's even more difficult to get a rhythm... and if we are honest although he doesn't mention it, when your touches and opportunities are small even when you play.

One aspect that I always mentioned with Kyle, but with the hate wagon trollsters here it's pointless to mention, is that he's never gotten regular playing time either. Even less than JSimms got last season, who at least played in the regular rotation... and on top of that, Kyle never knew the spot Pop wanted him to play or in what lineup. Unsurprising then that he has now scored in double figures 3 out of 4 games (1 of them scoring 9 points, so he was close, although he didn't shoot the ball well in that game) and had one double double, and a near double double in the season opener since he pulled down 9 boards. All these numbers were as a starting forward, once in a closing lineup, and not statpadding numbers or garbage time lineup numbers. He only scored in double figures 4 times in 72 games last season, a product of playing garbage time lineups and unknown spots with unpredictable rotations.

I think Kyle showed up last season in the playoffs when given sufficient playing time and opportunities. Although much ballyhoo was made of JSimms also showing up (deservedly I have to emphasize)... Kyle played well in the postseason and is now playing well in the regular season as a rotation player. I think he will find himself in a spot similar to JSimms.

[raybies]

Thanks for sharing. That is exactly what I thought based on prior statements he and his agent said. He might have had a level of disappointment that the Spurs only made a QO but eventually accepted that it's just business. When Pop called him to tell him the Spurs still wanted him and what not, he had already made up his mind to move on to a different team. It was entirely his choice to leave. He's very clear about that and playing time and shot opportunities and role were a big part of that.

I agree that it's very difficult for a young player to get a rhythm (it's difficult for veterans too, which is why Pop still plays veterans despite them having a bad game and sometimes some 0fers consecutively like Manu in the playoffs)... When your playing time varies and is unpredictable it's even more difficult to get a rhythm... and if we are honest although he doesn't mention it, when your touches and opportunities are small even when you play.

One aspect that I always mentioned with Kyle, but with the hate wagon trollsters here it's pointless to mention, is that he's never gotten regular playing time either. Even less than JSimms got last season, who at least played in the regular rotation... and on top of that, Kyle never knew the spot Pop wanted him to play or in what lineup. Unsurprising then that he has now scored in double figures 3 out of 4 games (1 of them scoring 9 points, so he was close, although he didn't shoot the ball well in that game) and had one double double, and a near double double in the season opener since he pulled down 9 boards. All these numbers were as a starting forward, once in a closing lineup, and not statpadding numbers or garbage time lineup numbers. He only scored in double figures 4 times in 72 games last season, a product of playing garbage time lineups and unknown spots with unpredictable rotations.

I think Kyle showed up last season in the playoffs when given sufficient playing time and opportunities. Although much ballyhoo was made of JSimms also showing up (deservedly I have to emphasize)... Kyle played well in the postseason and is now playing well in the regular season as a rotation player. I think he will find himself in a spot similar to JSimms.
Well just want to add that Kyle didn't play with this level of aggressiveness last year. He is much more confident this season and looking for his own shot. Whether he was comfortable or not he was still very hesistant in his first 3 seasons, so I'm not gonna go that far. Looked like he didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Now it's to the point that the lineups he's playing with are looking for him to facilitate. In the Murray/Paul/Green/Anderson/LMA lineup, he was the go to guy to make something happen. The offense was a little bogged down but still it shows where the team places him in the heirarchy. He's moving up the totem pole and I think Simmons leaving opens the door for him staying. He's becoming intricate to the rotation with his combination of playmaking on both sides of the ball. Hope he starts when Parker and Leonard come back, but with this new article about Pau's desire to remain a starter, it's gonna put Pop in a tough place with a tough decision to make.

[Chinook]

Simmons said the right things. It's nice to believe him on that.

[SAGirl]

Well just want to add that Kyle didn't play with this level of aggressiveness last year. He is much more confident this season and looking for his own shot. Whether he was comfortable or not he was still very hesistant in his first 3 seasons, so I'm not gonna go that far. Looked like he didn't want to step on anyone's toes. Now it's to the point that the lineups he's playing with are looking for him to facilitate. In the Murray/Paul/Green/Anderson/LMA lineup, he was the go to guy to make something happen. The offense was a little bogged down but still it shows where the team places him in the heirarchy. He's moving up the totem pole and I think Simmons leaving opens the door for him staying. He's becoming intricate to the rotation with his combination of playmaking on both sides of the ball. Hope he starts when Parker and Leonard come back, but with this new article about Pau's desire to remain a starter, it's gonna put Pop in a tough place with a tough decision to make.

That's a good point, He gave some interviews at the opening of the season that showed a level of hunger he didn't openly display before. As Simmons said, Pop slows young guys down. He wants them to watch learn, develop. Pop also admitted he never previously really committed to him in a specific role either, he was just fit in wherever.

However, I truly believe although he didn't play that much last season, Kyle was aggressive towards the end of the season and in the playoffs. He gained confidence and I am glad it's here to stay. In doing that, he got the coach's confidence too.

[tonight...you]

That's a good point, He gave some interviews at the opening of the season that showed a level of hunger he didn't openly display before. As Simmons said, Pop slows young guys down. He wants them to watch learn, develop. Pop also admitted he never previously really committed to him in a specific role either, he was just fit in wherever.

However, I truly believe although he didn't play that much last season, Kyle was aggressive towards the end of the season and in the playoffs. He gained confidence and I am glad it's here to stay. In doing that, he got the coach's confidence too.
Sometimes it takes a snail more time to come out of it's shell. Especially when they feel encouraged to stay in said domicile.
There is no better time for Kyle to come and claim some skins than right now.
He's started things off right, but let's go more and keep that up.

His success is this team's success.

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In case you missed it in the BP3 thread:


It's a podcast with Brandon Paul and Alex Kennedy.

http://hoopshype.com/2017/10/26/brandon-paul-on-joining-the-spurs-2017-18-expectations-overseas-stints-san-antonios-culture-and-more/

In the latest episode of The HoopsHype Podcast, San Antonio Spurs guard Brandon Paul joins Alex Kennedy for a wide-ranging conversation. Some of the topics they discussed include…

0:30: What factored into Brandon’s free agency decision and why he ultimately joined the Spurs.

1:05: The Spurs are described as the model organization in all of professional sports. Brandon discusses his first impression of the franchise.

2:45: Brandon bounced around the NBA a bit prior to joining the Spurs. What did he learn from all of those short training-camp invites and Summer-League stints, and how frustrating was it back then to come so close to being in the NBA but come up short?

4:00: How different is this year’s experience with the Spurs, knowing he has some job security and can focus entirely on developing and fitting in?

5:20: For those who don’t know Brandon’s game, he shares what he’ll try to provide the Spurs and what the coaches have asked from him.

6:20: Brandon talks about how the team prepared for the season, how they looked behind the scenes and what makes Spurs teams so great year after year.

7:25: Gregg Popovich is obviously one of the best coaches in NBA history. What has Brandon’s experience with Pop been like so far, and how is he from a communication and teaching standpoint?

8:40: As a guard, it doesn’t get much better than learning from Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Brandon discusses how much they’ve helped him so far and what it’s like playing with them.

9:40: People are talking more about the Golden State Warriors, Houston Rockets and Oklahoma City Thunder when they discuss Western Conference contenders. Do the Spurs’ players feel overlooked a bit entering the season?

11:10: Brandon went undrafted and then had stints in Russia, Spain, Turkey and the D-League before making it to the NBA. He discusses his surprise over being undrafted and then breaks down each of his pre-NBA stints.

18:30: When a player goes from being successful overseas to signing a minimum contract in the NBA, a lot of fans don’t realize they’re taking a pay cut. Did Brandon consider staying overseas rather than making the jump to the NBA?

21:15: Brandon got signed after doing really well in Summer League, which is tough because every player is trying to showcase their game in a short amount of time. What was that experience like and how much pressure is there since there’s such a small window to make an impression?

22:35: Brandon discusses his offseason training and what specific aspects of his game he focused on improving.

23:45: San Antonio has one of the best international scouting departments, so they’re aware of pretty much every player doing well abroad. Does Brandon believe his stints overseas made him more appealing to the Spurs?

25:10: After college, Brandon immediately traveled the world and worked in several different countries where there was a culture shock and language barrier. He discusses how that changed him as a person and helped him mature.

26:25: Rudy Gay was a splashy signing for San Antonio this summer. He’s coming off of the Achilles’ injury, but he’s obviously very talented and people are excited to see how Pop will use him and what he’ll do within the Spurs’ system and culture. Brandon discusses how Rudy has looked behind the scenes, how he’s approaching this season and what kind of production he expects from Rudy.

27:45: Kawhi Leonard is one of those freak-of-nature players who does crazy things pretty regularly. How has Brandon’s opinion of Kawhi changed now that he’s seeing him up close on a daily basis rather than as an outsider?

29:50: Kawhi is known for being a quiet guy; is he like that around the team as well? And who have been the vocal leaders of this team so far?

32:00: Brandon jokes about how his NBA 2K18 likeness looks nothing like him.

34:40: Brandon and Alex share their favorite TV shows of all-time as well as what they’re currently watching.

39:00: The goal in San Antonio is always to win a title. Does this team have what it takes to win a championship, and what does the squad have to do in order to accomplish that feat?

[dabom]

Gonna listen to this podcast. Hopefully it don't got a shitty intro.

[coachmac87]

Gonna listen to this podcast. Hopefully it don't got a shitty intro.

I'll be the judge of that...

[DAF86]

Injury Update: Kawhi Out 2-3 Weeks (Mind Blown)


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Low pain tolerance, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Stupid blazers... left Blake Griffin wide open for a game-winning 3.

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Wow he even had time to pump fake and everything b4 getting off his shot.

I dont have a good feeling about tomorrow’ game. I feel like the Spurs have never gotten to a better than 4-0 start is that Pop uses the RS to work out the kinks in the team. And there are some guys that haven’t been at their best.

[DAF86]

Wow he even had time to pump fake and everything b4 getting off his shot.

I dont have a good feeling about tomorrow’ game. I feel like the Spurs have never gotten to a better than 4-0 start is that Pop uses the RS to work out the kinks in the team. And there are some guys that haven’t been at their best.

Tomorrow is no game to be experimenting, tbh. If we lose tomorrow then we have B2B on Boston and then the Dubs. We could be looking at a 3 game losing streak.

[raybies]

Tomorrow is no game to be experimenting, tbh. If we lose tomorrow then we have B2B on Boston and then the Dubs. We could be looking at a 3 game losing streak.
feel the same way. We got two games on the dubs, got to keep that lead for as long a possible, especially since we'll be playing them next Thursday.

[Chinook]

Tomorrow is no game to be experimenting, tbh. If we lose tomorrow then we have B2B on Boston and then the Dubs. We could be looking at a 3 game losing streak.

There's that Pacers game in between. In fact, they get two days off between the IND/BOS B2B and the Warriors game.

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21186074/philadelphia-76ers-continue-efforts-find-suitable-trade-jahlil-okafor

Sources: 76ers continue efforts to trade Jahlil Okafor

With the role of Jahlil Okafor (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3135048/jahlil-okafor) further diminishing, his representatives and the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) are collaborating to find a suitable trade, league sources tell ESPN.

Sixers coach Brett Brown informed the local media on Friday that the 21-year-old center is currently out of the rotation and that the second-unit spot is Amir Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2769/amir-johnson)'s to lose. The frontcourt logjam of Joel Embiid (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3059318/joel-embiid), Ben Simmons (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907387/ben-simmons) and Dario Saric (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032978/dario-saric) leaves Okafor expendable.

Okafor has a fourth-year option of $6.3 million that the Sixers have to make a decision on by Oct. 31. According to league sources, whether they pick it up or not depends on the trade discussions, but it's likely that it's exercised.

At the moment, there are no frontrunners, sources say.

Throughout this process, he's been the consummate professional and has worked rigorously on his body. He's healthy and fit for the first time in years and is poised to thrive with a change of scenery, according to sources.

Okafor has only played in one of the team's five games this season, in which he registered 10 points, nine rebounds and two blocks in 22 minutes off the bench. His statistics dipped from his first season to his second due to lack of consistent playing time.

The No. 3 pick in the 2015 draft has been on the trading block since last season.

[raybies]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21186074/philadelphia-76ers-continue-efforts-find-suitable-trade-jahlil-okafor

Sources: 76ers continue efforts to trade Jahlil Okafor

With the role of Jahlil Okafor (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3135048/jahlil-okafor) further diminishing, his representatives and the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) are collaborating to find a suitable trade, league sources tell ESPN.

Sixers coach Brett Brown informed the local media on Friday that the 21-year-old center is currently out of the rotation and that the second-unit spot is Amir Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2769/amir-johnson)'s to lose. The frontcourt logjam of Joel Embiid (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3059318/joel-embiid), Ben Simmons (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907387/ben-simmons) and Dario Saric (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032978/dario-saric) leaves Okafor expendable.

Okafor has a fourth-year option of $6.3 million that the Sixers have to make a decision on by Oct. 31. According to league sources, whether they pick it up or not depends on the trade discussions, but it's likely that it's exercised.

At the moment, there are no frontrunners, sources say.

Throughout this process, he's been the consummate professional and has worked rigorously on his body. He's healthy and fit for the first time in years and is poised to thrive with a change of scenery, according to sources.

Okafor has only played in one of the team's five games this season, in which he registered 10 points, nine rebounds and two blocks in 22 minutes off the bench. His statistics dipped from his first season to his second due to lack of consistent playing time.

The No. 3 pick in the 2015 draft has been on the trading block since last season.
I mean how bad is he on defense??? This guy would easily average 20 and 10 starting. He's elite offensively in the post. Does he not have any range?

Thinking he would make a great piece on someone's bench ala Greg Monroe. I mean we have Pau starting, can't be worse than Pau. I dunno. Feel for the kid. He's got to be cheaper than Noel tho and all Noel's haul was Anderson and Bogut.

[raybies]

NBA TV with the goods tonight. OKC Wolves rematch and Warriors Wizards double header. :toast

[SAGirl]

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[raybies]

yall see the fight in GS... all just cliff jumping...

[SAGirl]

yall see the fight in GS... all just cliff jumping...
yes, it's funny. a lot of things to learn from this for the young players and the old players didn't set the best example.

[raybies]

yes, it's funny. a lot of things to learn from this for the young players and the old players didn't set the best example.
It's a good loss early in the season, especially for the youngins like you said. We didn't come ready to play. Bill and Sean said it early that we were going too fast and LMA said the same after the game. I think Murray set the tone in a sense.

[LakerHater]

Those nike jersys tear so damn ez, soo fuckn cheap

[YGWHI]

Loved to see Wolves beating OKC in a close game again...If OKC can't mesh this season they will lose some players in FA.

[LakerHater]

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[BatManu20]

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[dabom]

Parker got a ST account. :tu

[SAGirl]

Tomorrow is no game to be experimenting, tbh. If we lose tomorrow then we have B2B on Boston and then the Dubs. We could be looking at a 3 game losing streak.
Not only did we see Pop play all of his rotation (though the 4gh Q didn't matter), we did see Patty/Forbes combo that was awful. I frankly didn't expect the team to win that game, though I am always hopeful. It was kind of a trap game. I knew Pop would play everyone no matter how the game was going and he didn't make substitutions or call time outs.

Truth is too many guys plyed poorly, but he let it go on.

As an aside: Bryn Forbes should not be playing at this point. He's just not aggressive enough with his shooting in real games. Even in that blowout I saw him pass up shots, and he didn't catch fire. Brandon Paul and even Derrick White showed me more. I am guessing he's getting all these opportunities bc of a potential waiver.

[hooperflash]

Spurs need a shot blocking BIG

[Chillen]

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Players are getting sick of the Warriors dirty plays from Green and ZaZa and we are above and beyond you douchebag attitude from Curry, Durant, Klay. I would expect more of this to come.

[Ocotillo]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21186074/philadelphia-76ers-continue-efforts-find-suitable-trade-jahlil-okafor

Sources: 76ers continue efforts to trade Jahlil Okafor

With the role of Jahlil Okafor (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3135048/jahlil-okafor) further diminishing, his representatives and the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) are collaborating to find a suitable trade, league sources tell ESPN.

Sixers coach Brett Brown informed the local media on Friday that the 21-year-old center is currently out of the rotation and that the second-unit spot is Amir Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2769/amir-johnson)'s to lose. The frontcourt logjam of Joel Embiid (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3059318/joel-embiid), Ben Simmons (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907387/ben-simmons) and Dario Saric (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032978/dario-saric) leaves Okafor expendable.

Okafor has a fourth-year option of $6.3 million that the Sixers have to make a decision on by Oct. 31. According to league sources, whether they pick it up or not depends on the trade discussions, but it's likely that it's exercised.

At the moment, there are no frontrunners, sources say.

Throughout this process, he's been the consummate professional and has worked rigorously on his body. He's healthy and fit for the first time in years and is poised to thrive with a change of scenery, according to sources.

Okafor has only played in one of the team's five games this season, in which he registered 10 points, nine rebounds and two blocks in 22 minutes off the bench. His statistics dipped from his first season to his second due to lack of consistent playing time.

The No. 3 pick in the 2015 draft has been on the trading block since last season.

When Patty's availability for a trade date comes up, do it RC!!

[jermaine]

Sweet baby Jesus please trade Anderson and Mills for him..... Every since his fight outside I haven't heard from him.

[TimDunkem]

Sweet baby Jesus please trade Anderson and Mills for him..... Every since his fight outside I haven't heard from him.
But we'll lose so much culture. :cry

[raybies]

anyone starting a gt

[raybies]

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[SAGirl]

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/28/chicago-bulls-dealing-fallout-bobby-portis-nikola-mirotic-tussle#/
Mirotic wants to be traded. Can't be dealt until Jan. 15 though.

[YGWHI]

At least Rockets lost to Grizz again. Clippers lost too.

On other hand, Cousins is playing at MVP level, a real beast. If Pels won't make playoffs...If he wants to be part of a winning team for first time in his career...Who knows.

[spursistan]

Good thing the Warriors are looking awful and still within reach with Kawhi out this too many games...They have already lucked out a couple of Wins and are losing currently to the Pistons on B2B..

[daslicer]

Warriors just lost which helps the spurs in the standings.

[raybies]

:wow Pistons

Lost KCP and Morris and still got better.

[raybies]

Simmons with 27 pts tonight..... :depressed in a losing effort, but still.

This kid looking like Next Manu out here. Hate to pour salt on the wound, but man we let one get away. Desperately wanted him even if it meant trading Green. He's coming out.

[TimDunkem]

Mills' money should have went to Simmons.

[SAGirl]

Simmons with 27 pts tonight..... :depressed in a losing effort, but still.

This kid looking like Next Manu out here. Hate to pour salt on the wound, but man we let one get away. Desperately wanted him even if it meant trading Green. He's coming out.
POP be popping though. He had his flaws but I never wanted 50 mills at 12:01 and he was gone in a very reasonable deal. He decided to leave on his own I always remind myself of that.... buy RC wasn't knocking on his door at 12:01 either. Basically, while having dibs on him while he was a RFA RC invited every other team to take a shot at stealing him away. Then he was gone in a very reasonable deal. :td

[raybies]

POP be popping though. He had his flaws but I never wanted 50 mills at 12:01 and he was gone in a very reasonable deal. He decided to leave on his own I always remind myself of that.... buy RC wasn't knocking on his door at 12:01 either. Basically, while having dibs on him while he was a RFA RC invited every other team to take a shot at stealing him away. Then he was gone in a very reasonable deal. :td
Orlando's new GM Hammond doing work.

[sasaint]

Simmons with 27 pts tonight..... :depressed in a losing effort, but still.

This kid looking like Next Manu out here. Hate to pour salt on the wound, but man we let one get away. Desperately wanted him even if it meant trading Green. He's coming out.

I wanted him, too. But he is playing in a different system for a different coach. Under Pop, he would not be achieving the personal success he is in Orlando. I'm happy for Simmons. Still a good story.

[SAGirl]

I wanted him, too. But he is playing in a different system for a different coach. Under Pop, he would not be achieving the personal success he is in Orlando. I'm happy for Simmons. Still a good story.
Me too. I agree with you that he made the best decision for himself. POP would still have him off the ball while running stuff through Patty and Manu... ughhh. I can't be sour at him wanting to leave and it doesn't sound like he was that happy playing for the Spurs. He learned what Pop had to teach and it was time to spread his wings elsewhere... basically what he said.


Patty just has to bounce back. Shooting is still very much needed in the Spurs. If he doesn't bounce back a the season goes along though one will run out of excuses for Patty.

[rasuo214]

I had no problem re-signing Patty (personally would have preferred Hill) but there was no reason to pay him that much. Should have split that 50 mil between Simmons and Patty.

[raybies]

I really wish I knew who's decision it was to 12:01 Patty. That was bad judgement. My only way to understand this was it was payback for him making 3 per when he hurt his shoulder. I guess we got the deal and told him that we'd get him back. He was due a hefty payday that year. It was the year we won the last finals. So add on a few extra mill that he lost out of plus this years salary and the average is about 7-8 mill per. Only way I can rationalize it. But to do 12:01 really said they were scared of losing him and they probably knew they already had someone after him. Just doesn't make sense the Spurs would do that. Really think a team like Philly had a massive two year deal or something, like the Reddick deal.

[Ice009]

At least Rockets lost to Grizz again. Clippers lost too.

On other hand, Cousins is playing at MVP level, a real beast. If Pels won't make playoffs...If he wants to be part of a winning team for first time in his career...Who knows.

I wanted him last year. I think he's a small ball killer. Too bad not many other people here wanted him.

As for Simmons, I don't want to talk about it anymore. I'll just say that I would have preferred Mills gone completely, and I would have given Simmons 8-10M to come back. It's starting to feel like a Stephen Jackson situation to me. It took me years to get over that one. If they didn't trade RJ for him and he got a second stint here, I still might have been mad about it.

[r0drig0lac]

I really wish I knew who's decision it was to 12:01 Patty. That was bad judgement. My only way to understand this was it was payback for him making 3 per when he hurt his shoulder. I guess we got the deal and told him that we'd get him back. He was due a hefty payday that year. It was the year we won the last finals. So add on a few extra mill that he lost out of plus this years salary and the average is about 7-8 mill per. Only way I can rationalize it. But to do 12:01 really said they were scared of losing him and they probably knew they already had someone after him. Just doesn't make sense the Spurs would do that. Really think a team like Philly had a massive two year deal or something, like the Reddick deal.

well, he already got the pay, now swap this scrub for Atlanta

[TheDoctor]

well, he already got the pay, now swap this scrub for Atlanta
Ferrari’s comeback :wow

[r0drig0lac]

Ferrari’s comeback :wow

55% 3PT

[SAGirl]

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[YGWHI]

Damn...Lebron :spless: :D

Rockets (5-3) and Grizz (5-2) after lost tonight.

[raybies]

Damn...Lebron :spless: :D

Rockets (5-3) and Grizz (5-2) after lost tonight.
On a 3 game losing streak and still a game out of first.

[YGWHI]

On a 3 game losing streak and still a game out of first.

:tu

[YGWHI]

I wanted him last year. I think he's a small ball killer. Too bad not many other people here wanted him.
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Also, his 3-point shot is deadly.

[raybies]

Just to put things in perspective for the Cliff Jumpers, everyone is losing right now. There has not been one clear dominant team in the whole league. Last year's finalists have 3+ losses with like 7 games played. We have been without our best player. We have done fine.

[SAGirl]

I would have loved for the Spurs to have gotten a head start on everyone else but that can’t happen when the team is missing Kawhi. Dijon basically played above his capacity for a few games and was a difference maker but he can’t sustain that as he’s still flawed and developing and Brandon Paul showed up but too many others didn’t play well, including Lamarcus this game. Get well soon Kawhi and Tony.

[SAGirl]

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[raybies]

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Wow. He is making close to 7 mill per... weird that he could be unrestricted FA so soon

[SAGirl]

Wow. He is making close to 7 mill per... weird that he could be unrestricted FA so soon
He's getting royally f*cked though he partly did it to himself perhaps taking things for granted and having bad attitude his first season when there were already rumors of a trade and he tanked his own trade value with the fights he had outside a club.

Just the longer the 76ers held on to him, the more they tanked his value, too. Maybe he's just a younger Al Jefferson, a roleplayer, not a star, but there are teams where he could play some maybe off the bench and develops. Chicago maybe? I don't know who'd want Portis or Mirotic, but I have read some suggestions.

[pad300]

The reason Okafor has very little value is because he is a pretty crap player in today's NBA. He's a decent, not great post scorer. Other than that he's meh to terrible at a) rebounding (meh), b) post defence (meh), c) other offensive skills (weak), and finally, at d) help defence (terrible) and e) perimeter (on switches) defence (terrible). He might have had some value in the 90's...but I don't want him on this team (particularly at that salary).

[raybies]

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really liked this kid coming out. Wasn't properly developed, but he had star talent... Magic trying to get something for him while they can cause there's no spot in the rotation for him. Would love to have though just not for a player and first. He'd be useless this year and can't have that. But hope he finds a better situation

[TheDoctor]

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really liked this kid coming out. Wasn't properly developed, but he had star talent... Magic trying to get something for him while they can cause there's no spot in the rotation for him. Would love to have though just not for a player and first. He'd be useless this year and can't have that. But hope he finds a better situation

Hezonja for Bertans.

Do it RC.

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[raybies]

Interesting. Buyout candidate for Okafor possibly. Hezonja unrestricted free agent. Didn't see that coming, for Hezonja at least. Could be a bargain next offseason for the right team. As for Okafor, he averaged 17 pts and 8 boards as a rookie. Hard to say he's bad. For some reason kind of reminds me of Drew Gooden. Good comparison anybody?

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

:wow Losing Irving was devastating.

[SAGirl]

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[YGWHI]

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[YGWHI]

:wow Losing Irving was devastating.

Only if you replace him with Derrick Rose...

[BatManu20]

:cry


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[TheDoctor]

:cry


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:cry

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[TimDunkem]

Only if you replace him with Derrick Rose...

IT replaced Kyrie, and Rose has only played three games. 2 were wins.

[SAGirl]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/jahlil-okafor-bryan-colangelo-sixers-buyout-request-rejected-20171101.html
I hope Okafor gets traded soon.
He's 21 and many players that age are flawed. He's not getting an opportunity there and the FO is holding him hostage bc of their bad choices in the past.
BTW I haven't seen any rumors of Spurs interest. Currently, the Celtics want him but are expecting a buyout reportedly.

[coachmac87]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/jahlil-okafor-bryan-colangelo-sixers-buyout-request-rejected-20171101.html
I hope Okafor gets traded soon.
He's 21 and many players that age are flawed. He's not getting an opportunity there and the FO is holding him hostage bc of their bad choices in the past.
BTW I haven't seen any rumors of Spurs interest. Currently, the Celtics want him but are expecting a buyout reportedly.


What would be willing to give up for him?

[SAGirl]

What would be willing to give up for him?
caveat, that I don't know cap stuff and I don't habit playing with trade machine. Mills, if he were not to bounce back, could be a trade possibility. I expect him to bounce back though... and for Pop to want to keep him.

[bklynspursfan]

Dam, Cavs got blown out at home by Indy.

[TimDunkem]

Washington lost to Phoenix. Warren had 40/10/1/1/2 on 72% shooting.

Still a much worse player than Kyle according to Chinook though.

[raybies]

SImmons playing like poo tonight vs a great defensive team. coincidence or just an off game

[raybies]

There's like 4 mickeys in the league right now, Dallas, Sac, Chicago, and Atlanta. Anyone else can make a game. With the shooting in this league now everyone has a puncher's chance. Look at the records throughout the league. It's a slugfest. The NBA is morphing in front of our eyes. Kid's are rising up. Back in the day it use to be a man's league. Grind and post, and now teams are trying to get younger, more athletic.... can shoot and defend. It's unreal.

So for the later person don't be surprised at some of the losses we have right now. Indiana is actually better than last year with George. Better ball movement, more pace, and more depth. They beat Cleveland tonight. Orlando smoked us and are currently winning vs Memphis. Boston is Boston. They are a good team. We lost road games. We haven't lost to a bad team yet.

I just want to make sure y'all recalibrate your thinking on the league with some of y'alls superiority complexes. Without Leonard we can lose to about 90% of the league any given night. Some of y'all need to stop crying and support the team. But it makes sense... Most of the trolls here have skewed views that fit their agendas but can't see things the way they are.

Edit: I want to see how some of these younger teams respond to slumps... but the talent is there.

[coachmac87]

There's like 4 mickeys in the league right now, Dallas, Sac, Chicago, and Atlanta. Anyone else can make a game. With the shooting in this league now everyone has a puncher's chance. Look at the records throughout the league. It's a slugfest. The NBA is morphing in front of our eyes. Kid's are rising up. Back in the day it use to be a man's league. Grind and post, and now teams are trying to get younger, more athletic.... can shoot and defend. It's unreal.

So for the later person don't be surprised at some of the losses we have right now. Indiana is actually better than last year with George. Better ball movement, more pace, and more depth. They beat Cleveland tonight. Orlando smoked us and are currently winning vs Memphis. Boston is Boston. They are a good team. We lost road games. We haven't lost to a bad team yet.

I just want to make sure y'all recalibrate your thinking on the league with some of y'alls superiority complexes. Without Leonard we can lose to about 90% of the league any given night. Some of y'all need to stop crying and support the team. But it makes sense... Most of the trolls here have skewed views that fit their agendas but can't see things the way they are.

Edit: I want to see how some of these younger teams respond to slumps... but the talent is there.


Great Post!!

I can't wait to see what happens when Spurs, Rockets, Cavs get healthy. This NBA season will be one of the best in quite some time. I expect the playoffs to be even better and it'll be more competitive than mostbghink.

[raybies]

Great Post!!

I can't wait to see what happens when Spurs, Rockets, Cavs get healthy. This NBA season will be one of the best in quite some time. I expect the playoffs to be even better and it'll be more competitive than mostbghink.
It's just unreal and totally unexpected... like the basketball gods are str8 doing some checks and balances this year to smite the mighty warriors. I never thought of this concept but the thing about turning the game to more perimeter oriented is that more teams have a chance. It's less predictable. Someone gets hot and the other team can lose. Doesn't matter who it is. Rockets-Warriors game opening night has like put this season in an weird alternate universe and perfect example of this scenario.

Anyhow post games brought consistent results. It was more stable. Had to be for coaches to keep doing it. Now with the shooting, games turn to shoot outs. Like an old western, usually the best marksman wins but sometimes a man gets lucky.

just realized this today.

[SAGirl]

There's like 4 mickeys in the league right now, Dallas, Sac, Chicago, and Atlanta. Anyone else can make a game. With the shooting in this league now everyone has a puncher's chance. Look at the records throughout the league. It's a slugfest. The NBA is morphing in front of our eyes. Kid's are rising up. Back in the day it use to be a man's league. Grind and post, and now teams are trying to get younger, more athletic.... can shoot and defend. It's unreal.

So for the later person don't be surprised at some of the losses we have right now. Indiana is actually better than last year with George. Better ball movement, more pace, and more depth. They beat Cleveland tonight. Orlando smoked us and are currently winning vs Memphis. Boston is Boston. They are a good team. We lost road games. We haven't lost to a bad team yet.

I just want to make sure y'all recalibrate your thinking on the league with some of y'alls superiority complexes. Without Leonard we can lose to about 90% of the league any given night. Some of y'all need to stop crying and support the team. But it makes sense... Most of the trolls here have skewed views that fit their agendas but can't see things the way they are.

Edit: I want to see how some of these younger teams respond to slumps... but the talent is there.
There’s some guys that seriously have no heart when it comes to sticking with a team through injuries and tough times, then there’s simply trolls...

[raybies]

There’s some guys that seriously have no heart when it comes to sticking with a team through injuries and tough times, then there’s simply trolls...
as Chinook said referring to Spurstalk,, "some people suck dick and others suck ass"

I hate cussing but when he's right he's right

[BatManu20]

Cavs are ass this season. One of the worst defensive teams in the entire league so far. They're 29th in defending the PnR and they have no shotblocking presence inside whatsoever right now.


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[Seventyniner]

There's like 4 mickeys in the league right now, Dallas, Sac, Chicago, and Atlanta. Anyone else can make a game. With the shooting in this league now everyone has a puncher's chance. Look at the records throughout the league. It's a slugfest. The NBA is morphing in front of our eyes. Kid's are rising up. Back in the day it use to be a man's league. Grind and post, and now teams are trying to get younger, more athletic.... can shoot and defend. It's unreal.

So for the later person don't be surprised at some of the losses we have right now. Indiana is actually better than last year with George. Better ball movement, more pace, and more depth. They beat Cleveland tonight. Orlando smoked us and are currently winning vs Memphis. Boston is Boston. They are a good team. We lost road games. We haven't lost to a bad team yet.

I just want to make sure y'all recalibrate your thinking on the league with some of y'alls superiority complexes. Without Leonard we can lose to about 90% of the league any given night. Some of y'all need to stop crying and support the team. But it makes sense... Most of the trolls here have skewed views that fit their agendas but can't see things the way they are.

Edit: I want to see how some of these younger teams respond to slumps... but the talent is there.

Well said. I think the fact that the Suns are 1 game behind the Warriors epitomizes your point.

[Chinook]

Washington lost to Phoenix. Warren had 40/10/1/1/2 on 72% shooting.

Still a much worse player than Kyle according to Chinook though.

Lol that ass still bleeding apparently.

[TimDunkem]

Lol that ass still bleeding apparently.
Wrong again. :lol

[SuperCam]

:wow Losing Irving was devastating.


remember spurfan PATFO suckers not wanting to trade Green and Murray for Killa Kyrie? :lol

[Chinook]

Wrong again. :lol

Happy to hear that, because I'm pretty sure you would have died by now.

[Chinook]

remember spurfan PATFO suckers not wanting to trade Green and Murray for Killa Kyrie? :lol

I actually don't. Some didn't want to trade those two, LMA multiple firsts and Bertans for him, though. A lot of us did want that trade, and supporting PATFO wasn't really a factor.

[TimDunkem]

died by now.
Unfortunately, that hasn't happened with your basketball takes, tbh.

[Chinook]

Unfortunately, that hasn't happened with your basketball takes, tbh.

You're moving past the point of retorts and going meta at this point. Could afford to wait some time to consider what you're trying to say before posting, though you're probably scared Warren is going to have a terrible game to force you back into hiding or something.

[TimDunkem]

You're moving past the point of retorts and going meta at this point. Could afford to wait some time to consider what you're trying to say before posting, though you're probably scared Warren is going to have a terrible game to force you back into hiding or something.

Your point was that Kyle is a better player than Warren.

No one is worried about that take proving to be true. :lmao

[rastaspur]

Your point was that Kyle is a better player than Warren.

No one is worried about that take proving to be true. :lmao

Warren is better than kyle. Or at a minimum has much higher upside.

[TimDunkem]

Warren is leaps and bounds better than kyle.
Yep, and it's pretty obvious too. You don't need advanced metrics to see that.

:lol Overthinking basketball

[SAGirl]

The whole point of the discussion back then was whether Warren was worth his extension. Good for the Suns that he is finally looking like he is. No one was singing him praises when the Suns were getting blown out by 40 points to start the season and losing to the Lakers giving Lonzo the best game he’s has his rook season. Plus, Warren had missed chunks of 2 seasons to injuries, he was stats padding in a very bad, downright awful team. If the Suns get to winning basketball then his contract is a steal, but right then it was really meh...

[TimDunkem]

The whole point of the discussion back then was whether Warren was worth his extension. Good for the Suns that he is finally looking like he is. No one was singing him praises when the Suns were getting blown out by 40 points to start the season and losing to the Lakers giving Lonzo the best game he’s has his rook season. Plus, Warren had missed chunks of 2 seasons to injuries, he was stats padding in a very bad, downright awful team. If the Suns get to winning basketball then his contract is a steal, but right then it was really meh...


That's not what was being argued for the most part.

Nooks said Kyle was a better player and he was wrong. Plain and simple.

[SAGirl]

That's not what was being argued for the most part.

Nooks said Kyle was a better player and he was wrong. Plain and simple.
I’ll leave you two to smooch things out. :lol

[NASpurs]

So the Suns don't want to trade for any more point guards? What's going on, who is this team :lol

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[SAGirl]

Meanwhile Spurs staying mum. I am really tired of Patty not showing up and feeling no pressure tbh.

[TimDunkem]

Meanwhile Spurs staying mum. I am really tired of Patty not showing up and feeling no pressure tbh.

Four more years, mate! :flag:

[NASpurs]

Four more years, mate! :flag:

And with Parker re-signing at 36 years old next year, the Spurs will be set in mediocrity at the point guard position for years to come. Go Loyal Spurs Go! :wow

[TimDunkem]

And with Parker re-signing at 36 years old next year, the Spurs will be set in mediocrity at the point guard position for years to come. Go Loyal Spurs Go! :wow

With Danny getting his new contract as well, and Manu set to play until he can't walk anymore.

One day we'll recapture the magic of the beautiful game. :cry

[NASpurs]

With Danny getting his new contract as well, and Manu set to play until he can't walk anymore.

One day we'll recapture the magic of the beautiful game. :cry

:lol fucking hell man

At least Kawhi can look forward to that mad sponsorship money from the HEB commercials when he's weighing the pros and cons of re-signing with the team or bolting to L.A.

[Chinook]

Your point was that Kyle is a better player than Warren.

No one is worried about that take proving to be true. :lmao

Of course no one is worried. Most of us would love it to happen. It's only you and the CJK who desperately hope the Spurs lose so you can necropost shit.

[TimDunkem]

Of course no one is worried. Most of us would love it to happen. It's only you and the CJK who desperately hope the Spurs lose so you can necropost shit.
No one wants the Spurs to lose. Just stop already because this is getting pathetic. You were wrong. Move on. :lol

[TD 21]

So the Suns don't want to trade for any more point guards? What's going on, who is this team :lol

Nah, would imagine it's Jackson's combination of a toxic personality and style of play that Suns want no part of. Probably hoping Nuggets get desperate enough for a starting PG to take him for combination of Mudiay and Faried, which they probably already turned down for Bledsoe.

[NASpurs]

:lmao ESPN continuing to dig their own grave

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[BatManu20]

:lmao ESPN continuing to dig their own grave

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What in the actual fuck :lol

[TimDunkem]

:lmao ESPN continuing to dig their own grave

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Jesus...ESPN dying a slow death by their own hands.

[BillMc]

:lmao ESPN continuing to dig their own grave

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Yep.

ESPN's competition now gets to break everything ahead of them. Nice.

[Chinook]

No one wants the Spurs to lose. Just stop already because this is getting pathetic. You were wrong. Move on. :lol

:lol Telling someone to "move on" after necroposting about a topic discussed a month ago.

:lol Keeping online scores and bumping eight games into the season after bitching about sample size.

[TimDunkem]

:lol Telling someone to "move on" after necroposting about a topic discussed a month ago.

:lol Keeping online scores and bumping eight games into the season after bitching about sample size.

I'm simply pointing out that you were wrong.

You were wrong about Kyle being better. Own it.

[Chinook]

I'm simply pointing out that you were wrong.

You were wrong about Kyle being better. Own it.

Nah, you're actually carrying around asshurt that you can't let go, so you're crawling out from under your rock at the slightest sign of a lead. That would be fine, as it's classic ST behavior. It's that you complain about "sample size" and telling me to move on while doing it that gets you into trouble. Can't even get through a single post without shitting all over yourself, and that's with TGY coming in to fluff for you.

[TimDunkem]

Nah, you're actually carrying around asshurt that you can't let go, so you're crawling out from under your rock at the slightest sign of a lead. That would be fine, as it's classic ST behavior. It's that you complain about "sample size" and telling me to move on while doing it that gets you into trouble. Can't even get through a single post without shitting all over yourself, and that's with TGY coming in to fluff for you.

Says the guy who gets shit on whenever he actually talks basketball. But go on and tell me again how Kyle is better. :lol

[tholdren]

Says the guy who gets shit on whenever he actually talks basketball. But go on and tell me again how Kyle is better. :lol

At first i thought you were trolling, now i really get that you have no clue... sorry for you

[TimDunkem]

At first i thought you were trolling, now i really get that you have no clue... sorry for you
Thanks. Means a lot coming from the hands down worst poster on this forum. Stay mad, stalker. :lol

[BatManu20]

Uh. Okay.

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[Robz4000]

Uh. Okay.

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Like I said, don't be surprised if he doesn't play this season. Might be for the best regardless.

[BatManu20]

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[noles1983]

Shit team with or without KL. Patty Mills is an absolute abortion.

[YGWHI]

IT replaced Kyrie, and Rose has only played three games. 2 were wins.
Well, IT expects to return in January...Basically Rose is his replacement for almost 3 months.

[TimDunkem]

Well, IT expects to return in January...Basically Rose is his replacement for almost 3 months.

Can't blame their start on him though. That whole roster is bad.

[YGWHI]

Can't blame their start on him though. That whole roster is bad.
They lost a +20ppg PG for a -10 ppg...Anyway, I wonder who Bron will blame for this start.

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[raybies]

Yep.

ESPN's competition now gets to break everything ahead of them. Nice.
Sham gonna be lapping Woj now for real. I'm not gonna be glued to ESPN when i can just look at twitter and see someone else post it.

[YGWHI]

I've said before that LMA isn't a reliable #1 option on an elite team, his game has flaws in modern-day NBA. And while I hate Moore as much as I hate Warriors, he wrote a nice article about the issue with our offense and LMA.

"Aldridge finished as a minus-10 after being that plus-3 at half. OK, it's a team-oriented stat. He still scored 24 ... on 22 shots. Only four other players this season have taken at least 22 shots and scored 24 or fewer points (https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=2018&year_max=2018&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=22&order_by=pts), and they were all guards. They were 2-3 in those games. Aldridge shot just 36 percent from the field, and that's with a 50-percent night from the arc. This gets back to the same problem that Aldridge has had over the past three years, the same problem so many bigs are having. If you were a dominant post presence, you once could sustain your team enough to build a lead and hold it, but with how offenses have become more explosive, it's far tougher to rely on that kind of offense. It's not long-term sustainable over the course of a game.
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The question remains whether the Spurs' formula that involves Aldridge so heavily, the one they felt compelled to invest in on another multi-year extension for him, can work vs. this Spurs team"

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/without-kawhi-spurs-at-least-know-answer-to-warriors-problem-isnt-lamarcus-aldridge/

[TimDunkem]

I've said before that LMA isn't a reliable #1 option on an elite team, his game has flaws in modern-day NBA. And while I hate Moore as much as I hate Warriors, he wrote a nice article about the issue with our offense and LMA.

"Aldridge finished as a minus-10 after being that plus-3 at half. OK, it's a team-oriented stat. He still scored 24 ... on 22 shots. Only four other players this season have taken at least 22 shots and scored 24 or fewer points (https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=2018&year_max=2018&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=22&order_by=pts), and they were all guards. They were 2-3 in those games. Aldridge shot just 36 percent from the field, and that's with a 50-percent night from the arc. This gets back to the same problem that Aldridge has had over the past three years, the same problem so many bigs are having. If you were a dominant post presence, you once could sustain your team enough to build a lead and hold it, but with how offenses have become more explosive, it's far tougher to rely on that kind of offense. It's not long-term sustainable over the course of a game.
...
The question remains whether the Spurs' formula that involves Aldridge so heavily, the one they felt compelled to invest in on another multi-year extension for him, can work vs. this Spurs team"

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/without-kawhi-spurs-at-least-know-answer-to-warriors-problem-isnt-lamarcus-aldridge/

Exactly why re-signing Aldridge was a mistmake. With or without Kawhi, a soft jumpshooting big who demands touches is not adequate enough to win a championship, and a poor fit for the team.

Until the Spurs can surround Kawhi with real talent, and LMA accepts a role best suited for him, this antiquated offense will likely only be good enough to amount to an early playoff exit in May at best.

[raybies]

I've said before that LMA isn't a reliable #1 option on an elite team, his game has flaws in modern-day NBA. And while I hate Moore as much as I hate Warriors, he wrote a nice article about the issue with our offense and LMA.

"Aldridge finished as a minus-10 after being that plus-3 at half. OK, it's a team-oriented stat. He still scored 24 ... on 22 shots. Only four other players this season have taken at least 22 shots and scored 24 or fewer points (https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=2018&year_max=2018&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=22&order_by=pts), and they were all guards. They were 2-3 in those games. Aldridge shot just 36 percent from the field, and that's with a 50-percent night from the arc. This gets back to the same problem that Aldridge has had over the past three years, the same problem so many bigs are having. If you were a dominant post presence, you once could sustain your team enough to build a lead and hold it, but with how offenses have become more explosive, it's far tougher to rely on that kind of offense. It's not long-term sustainable over the course of a game.
...
The question remains whether the Spurs' formula that involves Aldridge so heavily, the one they felt compelled to invest in on another multi-year extension for him, can work vs. this Spurs team"

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/without-kawhi-spurs-at-least-know-answer-to-warriors-problem-isnt-lamarcus-aldridge/

Well he's not a #1 option overall, it's just till Leonard comes back. But people complaining and mocking "muh touches" but I have yet to hear who can carry the offense efficiently or not. No one on this roster can. Whether he wanted it or not is was gonna happen. But what you look at is the heart, the interest level, and the passing out the double teams, which have been there. Those are the things that's gonna make him an exceptional 2nd option.

I'm not sure Kerr would blow smoke up our team but he said this,
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We aren't gonna beat GS at their game. They are "lightyears" ahead in that department, while it pains me to say. But with what we got, and if it's done right, we can beat them. I'm gonna pull the game 1 card. KL and LMA dominated. LMA as a cleaner is never gonna happen, but if he can impose his will off the ball with boards and hit the open shot, that's all we need. As long as he continues to improve his passing out the double team and becomes more dynamic, that's all we can ask for and defense. He's proving he's one of the best bigs in the league. He's playing like an All Star and not all All Stars are created equal but this is who we have. He's a Spur now. He chose us and we chose him.

Sorry for that tangent, but more on the who could shoulder the load offensively, Joff's injury has stung a lil because of his ability to roll or pop. When you have a roll man as effective as he is you can run offense through it. With Pau and LMA, they aren't great roll bigs. Joff has earned his minutes much like Paul has.

[YGWHI]

Call me crazy but efficiency matters, especially in a low pace system like the Spurs.

In the last 3 games he shot .47% .38% and .36% tonight, this shooting hurts the team. Because it's not from a player taking just 7 FGAs per game, he takes almost 20...

I wonder if he is doing that great or he's just taking more shots...Except FGA's all his numbers look pretty similar to his last season.

[raybies]

Call me crazy but efficiency matters, especially in a low pace system like the Spurs.

In the last 3 games he shot .47% .38% and .36% tonight, this shooting hurts the team. Because it's not from a player taking just 7 FGAs per game, he takes almost 20...

I wonder if he is doing that great or he's just taking more shots...Except FGA's all his numbers look pretty similar to his last season.
What offense can we do that is more efficient? If Joff was there we could run the pick and roll...

Boston has Horford who's a tough matchup for him and GS has Draymond. And your sample size doesn't tell the whole story. Through 7 games he's shooting about 50%. Boston and GS aren't some scrub teams. They are tops in their respective conferences. Defense is gonna be tougher. No one said LMA was a transcendent star.

[YGWHI]

Patty "I'm not pressing anything at all". And Pau as a defensive force..

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[raybies]

Everyone mocks LMA "muh touches" but can't name a better way to score without KL and Parker. What great offense are we neglecting to get LMA his touches. I give the Joff PnR, but what else? Parker can't orchestrate the offense. We can't go to Kawhi when we really need a bucket or a game winner.

[YGWHI]

What offense can we do that is more efficient?
In the way this team is built I doubt there is one. That's the issue.

[raybies]

In the way this team is built I doubt there is one. That's the issue.
That's my point though. Kyle Anderson may be the best playmaker we have right now. I know, really... The 3-4 PnR with him and LMA was working well a couple possessions in a row vs GS but nobody wants to hear that. He's kind of been taking the responsibility to make something happen.

As for DJ, he makes good passes for the most part, but he's still learning and can't be overtly trusted to playmake. Manu has his moments but it's so inconsistent and best left as a fall back option.

Back to Kyle though, he had a big game today and once again vs the Warriors. I'm interested to see where he goes from here and if that was a breakout performance. When turds hit the wall, Kyle was being relied upon to make plays. That's where we are at. If Patty continues to start, I see more Anderson playmaking. We'll see how that goes.

[raybies]

Now lets turn this to a Simmons discussion^^^ Could use his playmaking.... but oh well. Imma try and let it go

[TimDunkem]

That's my point though. Kyle Anderson may be the best playmaker we have right now. I know, really... The 3-4 PnR with him and LMA was working well a couple possessions in a row vs GS but nobody wants to hear that. He's kind of been taking the responsibility to make something happen.

As for DJ, he makes good passes for the most part, but he's still learning and can't be overtly trusted to playmake. Manu has his moments but it's so inconsistent and best left as a fall back option.

Back to Kyle though, he had a big game today and once again vs the Warriors. I'm interested to see where he goes from here and if that was a breakout performance. When turds hit the wall, Kyle was being relied upon to make plays. That's where we are at. If Patty continues to start, I see more Anderson playmaking. We'll see how that goes.
If Kyle can play like today every game, it would help, but it isn't enough. That's a big "if" anyway as he's never shown that he can maintain any sort of aggressive play over the course of the season.


In the way this team is built I doubt there is one. That's the issue.
Exactly.

And the argument that the Spurs can't and shouldn't try to beat GS at their own game is a non-starter. You don't need to outgun them necessarily, you only need to reasonably contain them, get efficient shots, and have a go-to guy when needed. We have that star and the personnel to match-up defensively when Kawhi is in the game (for the most part as Mills and Gasol can't guard anyone).

Offense, however, is a different story; a one-two punch system with Kawhi and LMA isn't efficient enough to keep up with them all game. Kawhi needs - preferably - another high-level, 2nd banana-type playmaker and more consistent 3pt shooters. We also need LMA to accept in this scenario that he might not get his touches depending on the flow of the game. Too bad that last part is less likely to happen than anything else, tbh.

To be fair, the Spurs probably thought Murray would breakout and Gay would be more efficient with the role he's in now. It hasn't panned out that way though.

[venitian navigator]

If Kyle can play like today every game, it would help, but it isn't enough. That's a big "if" anyway as he's never shown that he can maintain any sort of aggressive play over the course of the season.


Exactly.

And the argument that the Spurs can't and shouldn't try to beat GS at their own game is a non-starter. You don't need to outgun them necessarily, you only need to reasonably contain them, get efficient shots, and have a go-to guy when needed. We have that star and the personnel to match-up defensively when Kawhi is in the game (for the most part as Mills and Gasol can't guard anyone).

Offense, however, is a different story; a one-two punch system with Kawhi and LMA isn't efficient enough to keep up with them all game. Kawhi needs - preferably - another high-level, 2nd banana-type playmaker and more consistent 3pt shooters. We also need LMA to accept in this scenario that he might not get his touches depending on the flow of the game. Too bad that last part is less likely to happen than anything else, tbh.

To be fair, the Spurs probably thought Murray would breakout and Gay would be more efficient with the role he's in now. It hasn't panned out that way though.

I share this opinion, but we have to consider that we are just in the second week and all our games have been played without our all star.
Anyway some things are clear.
Manu cannot be considered forever our game changer play maker...and for now we didn't find anyone worth his role.
The candidates this year are, in order:
1) Murray : too young maybe and for sure, for now, plenty of weaknesses (turnover 'cause of his high dribble; total lacking of an outside shot, expecially from three point lane);
2)Mills : simply not a play maker (and inadequate for a starting role...if he can't concentrate only on his shoot, he becames an offensive libility and he is already always a defensive liability), always hurryng his shot with bad percentages);
3)Kyle : he's the only real play maker of the three (has been a pg all his college years)...but imho better suited for a bench role or a secondary play maker role

[r0drig0lac]

Warren is better than kyle. Or at a minimum has much higher upside.

I like Kyle but Warren is better

[r0drig0lac]

Now lets turn this to a Simmons discussion^^^ Could use his playmaking.... but oh well. Imma try and let it go

It's not necessary, we all know this is true.

[TimDunkem]

No doubt that we won't know the absolute ceiling until Kawhi returns. I'm not optimistic though that, in the end, it'll be enough. I've always thought this team will win plenty of games, but running a system where our only other scorer is getting the bulk of his points off of post ups, fadeaways, and long two's will not be enough when things are tight against GS.

We see it in just about every game with them: Spurs play well and punch them in the mouth to start the game, then they go on their runs with 3pt barrages that our offense can't keep up with. This is where another high level playmaker making plays to consistent shooters would come in handy. Some people will say that's where Tony and/or Manu, Murray, etc will come in, although how much these aging pieces and young talent will help in a series against GS is suspect at best. They shouldn't have to be relied on to run with GS anyway...But it is what it is.

As for the shooting, it's looking more and more obvious every game that we don't have that either. Mills shot is gone, Green needs wide open shots to even have a chance, Gasol doesn't show up when needed and doesn't take enough anyway, Kyle is passive, and everyone else has been inconsistent.

[TimDunkem]

I'm hopeful that the Spurs can return to form when Kawhi comes back. Hell, I'm sure that when he does, they'll look great for stretches. Still, there are glaring issues with the offensive system and personnel on this team that make it really hard for me to see them giving GS a run for their money when it counts.

[Atl Spur]

Slow the game down , commit to defense and play inside out. They are built to run...... if DM would commit to first becoming a great defender / distributor his offense would catch up i.e. Kawhi Leonard development. This kid has all the attributes to be a terror. People are forgetting Rudy isn't in shape, KL is on the mend and Paul,JL is still acclimating.....

[SAGirl]

Everyone mocks LMA "muh touches" but can't name a better way to score without KL and Parker. What great offense are we neglecting to get LMA his touches. I give the Joff PnR, but what else? Parker can't orchestrate the offense. We can't go to Kawhi when we really need a bucket or a game winner.
I can't shit on Lamarcus, he showed up this season.
I also think he's hitting the offensive boards and sometimes tip ins and stuff of that nature don't go in but it still counts as a shot attempt, so some of his shot attempts are hustle shots. Team has worse problems than LMA... (Patty, Manu, Dijon being really raw and can't shoot, etc, Tony and Kawhi injured, etc.)

[SAGirl]

I'm hopeful that the Spurs can return to form when Kawhi comes back. Hell, I'm sure that when he does, they'll look great for stretches. Still, there are glaring issues with the offensive system and personnel on this team that make it really hard for me to see them giving GS a run for their money when it counts.
There was a stretch last season, with Kawhi playing at an MVP level, and Tony was healthy and playing well offensively (might have been Dec, Jan?) and the two of them just made the team look like an absolute monster. In the postseason as you know Tony got hot bc he got easy baskets from Kiwi and he was the secondary playmaker/scorer Kawhi needed. If Kawhi were to have a decent to great guard scorer/playmaker with him like Tony was able to be for some short lapses, the team looked very different.

Dijon is no Tony though I root for him. He's just too inefficient as a scorer himself right now and has flaws that will take time to smooth out. He's far from his own prime years and it shows. Manu is done, Mills is a limited player getting exposed, and we don't know how Tony will look when he gets back, or even how long he will sustain his play or health before breaking down again.

What's frustrating is that PATFO have known their guards have been their weak spot and not good enough for several seasons already and done nothing about it.

[BatManu20]

I personally tthink the Rockets have a legit shot at Lebron this summer.


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[sasaint]

Exactly why signing Aldridge was a mistmake. With or without Kawhi, a soft jumpshooting big who demands touches is not adequate enough to win a championship, and a poor fit for the team.

Until the Spurs can surround Kawhi with real talent, and LMA accepts a role best suited for him, this antiquated offense will likely only be good enough to amount to an early playoff exit in May at best.

Fify.

[spursistan]

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:wow :stirpot:

[sasaint]

In the way this team is built I doubt there is one. That's the issue.

BINGO!

[sasaint]

There was a stretch last season, with Kawhi playing at an MVP level, and Tony was healthy and playing well offensively (might have been Dec, Jan?) and the two of them just made the team look like an absolute monster. In the postseason as you know Tony got hot bc he got easy baskets from Kiwi and he was the secondary playmaker/scorer Kawhi needed. If Kawhi were to have a decent to great guard scorer/playmaker with him like Tony was able to be for some short lapses, the team looked very different.

Dijon is no Tony though I root for him. He's just too inefficient as a scorer himself right now and has flaws that will take time to smooth out. He's far from his own prime years and it shows. Manu is done, Mills is a limited player getting exposed, and we don't know how Tony will look when he gets back, or even how long he will sustain his play or health before breaking down again.

What's frustrating is that PATFO have known their guards have been their weak spot and not good enough for several seasons already and done nothing about it.

That isn't exactly right. They have drafted and signed a plethora of guards, all of which seem to be border-line NBA players. And, if reports are true, they made a run at CP3. More accurately, what PATFO have done has been very unsuccessful. We could have had a backcourt that included Tony, Danny, Malcolm Brogdon, JSimms and, say, Brandon Paul.

The downfall started when PATFO was enamored by the cache of signing LMA rather than spending the money on a COUPLE of rotation players to complement Kawhi and who were better suited to the modern NBA.

[spursistan]

That isn't exactly right. They have drafted and signed a plethora of guards, all of which seem to be border-line NBA players. And, if reports are true, they made a run at CP3. More accurately, what PATFO have done has been very unsuccessful. We could have had a backcourt that included Tony, Danny, Malcolm Brogdon, JSimms and, say, Brandon Paul.

The downfall started when PATFO was enamored by the cache of signing LMA rather than spending the money on a COUPLE of rotation players to complement Kawhi and who were better suited to the modern NBA.

It i so bad right now that we could be talking about Aldridge extension as the only fourth worst move of last offseason (Patty, Pau, and the White pick) :lol..

[sasaint]

It i so bad right now that we could be talking about Aldridge extension as the only fourth worst move of last offseason (Patty, Pau, and the White pick) :lol..

Dead on... sadly.

[BatManu20]

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[TheDoctor]

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Liked Miami, Portland and Sacramento.

[TD 21]

Exactly why re-signing Aldridge was a mistmake. With or without Kawhi, a soft jumpshooting big who demands touches is not adequate enough to win a championship, and a poor fit for the team.

Until the Spurs can surround Kawhi with real talent, and LMA accepts a role best suited for him, this antiquated offense will likely only be good enough to amount to an early playoff exit in May at best.

Technically, they extended him and it wasn't a mistake. Spurs couldn't do as good or better than him and had already foolishly committed to Mills/Gasol, limiting their flexibility and ensuring they'd go forward with the majority of the core. Besides, according to Lowe, Aldridge was going to opt in anyway, so they really only gave him 2/$50M, which could be 1/$33M if they so choose.

What Moore said wasn't enlightening or illuminating, it was obvious. But people make it sound like Spurs or anyone has their pick of the litter. Reality is, you take what you can get, in terms of stars. That's why they should be all in on Bledsoe right now.





:wow :stirpot:

In other words, he's Rockets bound, where he can run the show and play high-school with two of the other cool kids.

[BatManu20]

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[rastaspur]

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He's not my king.

[BatManu20]

What is that, 5 ripped jerseys already so far this season? And this one almost ripped clean off

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[daslicer]

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I wonder if Lebron will be able to break Kareem's total points record. Kareem's record is 38387. Lebron is at 29,000. He will definitely get over 30,000 plus this year if he stays healthy. If he can play 4 more years and average around 24-25 game he has a chance.

[tholdren]

I wonder if Lebron will be able to break Kareem's total points record. Kareem's record is 38387. Lebron is at 29,000. He will definitely get over 30,000 plus this year if he stays healthy. If he can play 4 more years and average around 24-25 game he has a chance.

Not an lbj fan. Cant stand his conments about bbiq. Strongest player in league takes more fadeaway buzzer beater threes to end a q than lma. Dumb

[SPURt]

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Miami biting the fiesta Spurs

[BatManu20]

Lebron with the performance of the year so far


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[TimDunkem]

Lebron with the performance of the year so far


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Welp, he just killed my fantasy team this week. :lol

[tholdren]

Lebron with the performance of the year so far


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Lol shooting 34 times. Gtfo nba.

[BatManu20]

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