Official 2017-18 NBA Season Thread

[NASpurs]

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[ElNono]

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Good for him. He would be scrubbing it up on Austin right now, getting over himself. This gives him exposure.

[Mr. Body]

Saw this on reddit:

http://beta.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-newsletter-20171228-story.html






I would be interested in Randle off the bench. He's one of the few Kentucky players who seems to understand hard work and competitiveness can actually improve a player.

[Chinook]

I like Randle and think he'd actually be a fine third big. The team doesn't need a legit center, because then that player couldn't play with Pau. They need a legit big who can be a small-ball center for stretches. This is exactly what Bell would have done and what Randle could do. There's just no reasonable way to acquire Julius, and it doesn't make sense to pay him with how much the front court is already going to make next year. I don't think he's better than Kyle, and he's definitely less versatile. I think it's buyout or bust at this point.

[sasaint]

This. Spurs need a big that plays like a big. If Robin Lopez is bought out he'd be my prime choice (or TC obviously), but a guy in the mold of Baynes would be fine.

I wanted RoLo instead of his prima dona teammate back when they were both FAs. Could have used the difference in salaries to sign a second dood player... Oh well.

[spurraider21]

I like Randle and think he'd actually be a fine third big. The team doesn't need a legit center, because then that player couldn't play with Pau. They need a legit big who can be a small-ball center for stretches. This is exactly what Bell would have done and what Randle could do. There's just no reasonable way to acquire Julius, and it doesn't make sense to pay him with how much the front court is already going to make next year. I don't think he's better than Kyle, and he's definitely less versatile. I think it's buyout or bust at this point.
is that really a priority consideration at this point?

last year pau was playing something like 22 minutes per game in the playoffs

[Chinook]

is that really a priority consideration at this point?

last year pau was playing something like 22 minutes per game in the playoffs

It's kind of a big deal if you have three bigs and two of them can't play together.

Pau's playability comes down to two factors: The teams the Spurs face and how much effort he's giving. There are plenty of teams against whom the Spurs would likely stay big (including every team in the playoffs outside of Golden State). Pau has been putting up great defensive numbers and been rotating really well. I have no idea why he'd do that now but not in May. That Gasol is a big net-positive. Last year, he moved like a slug, didn't attack mismatches and went through a shooting slump at the worst time. I don't expect to see that happen again.

[Robz4000]

Paul George having trouble with his knee again. Players are dropping like flies this season.

[NASpurs]

Rockets down 10+ midway in the second quarter.

(someone anti-jinx my post)

[SAGirl]

It's kind of a big deal if you have three bigs and two of them can't play together.

Pau's playability comes down to two factors: The teams the Spurs face and how much effort he's giving. There are plenty of teams against whom the Spurs would likely stay big (including every team in the playoffs outside of Golden State). Pau has been putting up great defensive numbers and been rotating really well. I have no idea why he'd do that now but not in May. That Gasol is a big net-positive. Last year, he moved like a slug, didn't attack mismatches and went through a shooting slump at the worst time. I don't expect to see that happen again.
I think your point in terms of roster compatibility is specially relevant if they are getting someone to help out this season, a one season rental essentially, which someone like Randle could be.

They said Rudy will be evaluated in 2 weeks, but if the bursitis takes generally 6 weeks to fully resolve like ElNono said (I have no idea), they need to look around.

[spursistan]

Rockets about to get demolished by the Wizards with CP3 playing..That's 5 straight Ls...

Only 2 games in loss column between us..We are still in it ..Gotta get healthy and make a run at HC..

[daslicer]

Rockets about to get demolished by the Wizards with CP3 playing..That's 5 straight Ls...

Only 2 games in loss column between us..We are still in it in spite everything..Gotta get healthy and make a run at HC..

Prior to the injuries of CP3 and Capella they were on pace for a 60 plus win season. Amazing how those injuries have put them in a serious funk.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Frauden
:lol not even the mvp his own team anymore

[Chinook]

Prior to the injuries of CP3 and Capella they were on pace for a 60 plus win season. Amazing how those injuries have put them in a serious funk.

A team like Houston will always be streaky. Harden definitely ain't helping.

[r0drig0lac]

Mirotic...

[tholdren]

Nba is terrible. There are literally 4 players who dont travel every possession. I only wish i played in the city league where carrying traveling doesnt get called. I would average 50ppg

[spursistan]

Pringles panicking in December and rushing back a banged-up CP3 and but still taking the L..This is why I'll never completely believe in an MDA-coached team..His teams have often lacked poise because he doesn't posses it himself..

[jermaine]

Nba is terrible. There are literally 4 players who dont travel every possession. I only wish i played in the city league where carrying traveling doesnt get called. I would average 50ppg

LaMarcus carries every time he touches the ball!

[tholdren]

LaMarcus carries every time he touches the ball!

And hes fat.

[SAGirl]

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[daslicer]

Props to Dwight Howard for getting the win against the Warriors. He played like an old school big against them which is he got all of his points in the paint and forced them to double team him throughout the whole entire second half. His passing out of the double team was also great and a huge reason why the Hornets were able to get easy points against the Warriors.

[NASpurs]

With the Warriors and the Rockets being in a funk and the Spurs nipping at their heels, I expect Pop to purposely start throwing some games to remain at that 3rd spot.

[Ice009]

With the Warriors and the Rockets being in a funk and the Spurs nipping at their heels, I expect Pop to purposely start throwing some games to remain at that 3rd spot.

The Spurs need to focus on at least keeping that 3rd seed. They're a lot closer to falling anywhere from 4th to 6th than they are to getting that second seed. They've got some tough games and a tough schedule coming up so they need to be focused and careful to not throw away any winnable games, but with Pop sabotaging the team by getting his healthy players injured because of his BS unproven and backed by nothing scientific injury management and rest, Spurs could end up with a losing streak of their own.

[CGD]

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Brogdon + Teletovic’s contract (dude is out indefinitely) for Patty. Do it!

In all seriousness, before the bledsoe addition I thought patty would have been a great fit in Milwaukee givien their shooting needs.

[Ice009]

Props to Dwight Howard for getting the win against the Warriors. He played like an old school big against them which is he got all of his points in the paint and forced them to double team him throughout the whole entire second half. His passing out of the double team was also great and a huge reason why the Hornets were able to get easy points against the Warriors.

What were his stats for the game? It sounds like he played up to his potential.

[UZER]

With the Warriors and the Rockets being in a funk and the Spurs nipping at their heels, I expect Pop to purposely start throwing some games to remain at that 3rd spot.

:lol

[daslicer]

What were his stats for the game? It sounds like he played up to his potential.

He got 29 points on a FG percent of 66 percent along with shooting 9/12 from the free throw line. He finished the game with 12 rebounds, 2 steals, and a career high of 7 assists. I loved watching how he demanded the ball in the post on the majority of his possessions. It was like watching Tim or Shaq the way he was forcing the Warriors to double team him on every possession. He did hit 2 mid range jump shots but outside of that all of his points came within 1-3 feet inside the paint. His passing was also great out of the double teams. Every time he was able to find someone open for a jump shot or an easy layup, dunk.

What the game showed me is what I have known for a while is that the Warriors can't guard a big that can play inside the paint with 1 defender. They need to double team. The big man needs to have the discipline to continue to operate inside the paint and look for his opportunities or pass when they are not there like Dwight did tonight.

[Ice009]

He got 29 points on a FG percent of 66 percent along with shooting 9/12 from the free throw line. He finished the game with 12 rebounds, 2 steals, and a career high of 7 assists. I loved watching how he demanded the ball in the post on the majority of his possessions. It was like watching Tim or Shaq the way he was forcing the Warriors to double team him on every possession. He did hit 2 mid range jump shots but outside of that all of his points came within 1-3 feet inside the paint. His passing was also great out of the double teams. Every time he was able to find someone open for a jump shot or an easy layup, dunk.

What the game showed me is what I have known for a while is that the Warriors can't guard a big that can play inside the paint with 1 defender. They need to double team. The big man needs to have the discipline to continue to operate inside the paint and look for his opportunities or pass when they are not there like Dwight did tonight.

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.

[r0drig0lac]

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.
probably not

[BillMc]

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.

If we can play Pau against the Warriors (big IF) then he has been really good at finding LMA when he's sealed his man. 7 foot Pau should be able to lob it over midget green to LMA if they front Aldridge. Pau's offensive value could be huge, but can it offset his defense when the Dubs force Pau in the pick and roll? Unknown. But Pop should try and stay big against the Dubs as long as he can.

[TheDoctor]

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.

:lol

[UZER]

:lol

Aldridge let's Draymond take his cookie all the time. And in the playoffs, the refs let Draymond get away with much more physical play.

[daslicer]

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.

I like to see LMA mix it up against the Warriors. Draymond can't guard him when he's 3 feet underneath the basket. I have seen it a few times when LMA is that deep on post ups against Draymond it's always a basket or an automatic foul against Draymond. LMA can get those opportunities off of pick and rolls and just by being patient, He also needs to force the positioning before he gets the ball around that area. For this to work the Spurs will need to make a concerted effort to look for him when he's in position to score.

[tonight...you]

I like to see LMA mix it up against the Warriors. Draymond can't guard him when he's 3 feet underneath the basket. I have seen it a few times when LMA is that deep on post ups against Draymond it's always a basket or an automatic foul against Draymond. LMA can get those opportunities off of pick and rolls and just by being patient, He also needs to force the positioning before he gets the ball around that area. For this to work the Spurs will need to make a concerted effort to look for him when he's in position to score.
Absolutely. Hopefully he brings full effort and some "nasty", should they get the chance to face the Warriors in the playoffs.
No matter what Kawhi is doing.

[SAGirl]

With the Warriors and the Rockets being in a funk and the Spurs nipping at their heels, I expect Pop to purposely start throwing some games to remain at that 3rd spot.
:lol
Rudy getting injured.
Danny hobbling and Pop's injury management schedules will not help.
Prepare for microcombos. Spurs about to go microball.

[Nathan89]

Darn, sounds like he really did play up to his potential. I was interested in getting him as I thought he could dominate inside against the Warriors, but didn't really want him at his current price tag. Looks like he put it all together for this one game.

You think Aldridge is capable of doing anything like that against the Warriors? I've always wanted Aldridge to consistently go inside throughout the game against the Warriors, and try to punish them down low by either forcing double teams or overpowering his defender and scoring on single coverage. It's also why I wanted DeMarcus Cousins, as I thought he could also spend the majority of the game going inside and putting a lot of pressure on their interior defense, with them eventually having to double team him.

I really do think an old-school big with good outside shooters is the way to beat those guys.

Dwight actually has a spin dribble move and some other face-up dribble skills. Aldridge tries to go one way or shoot a shit fadeaway.

[ducks]

Tony Parker has now scored double figures in 930 career games. Only two point guards in NBA history with more: Gary Payton (1,035) and John Stockton (1,061)

[SAGirl]

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[Robz4000]

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:lol good luck

[SAGirl]

:lol good luck
:lol
Warriors are shoping Javale McGee too. Reportedly the Bucks have interest.

[Robz4000]

:lol
Warriors are shoping Javale McGee too. Reportedly the Bucks have interest.

God damn, Bucks

[UZER]

:lol
Warriors are shoping Javale McGee too. Reportedly the Bucks have interest.

With the voodoo the Warriors use, the Bucks will trade Giannis for McGee straight up.

[ducks]

This is the fourth game this season the Spurs will have their preferred starting five available. They are 1-2 in previous three such games.

[BillMc]

With the voodoo the Warriors use, the Bucks will trade Giannis for McGee straight up.
:lol

[BillMc]

Kyle playing well

[BillMc]

I refuse to have my game thread ruined by a team coached by Ron Jeremy.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

My goodness Draymond Green has the discipline of a 2 year old.

[ElNono]

Tony Parker has now scored double figures in 930 career games. Only two point guards in NBA history with more: Gary Payton (1,035) and John Stockton (1,061)

Great company, tbh... both douchebags.

[tholdren]

Great company, tbh... both douchebags.

If only spurs had stockton. Robinson would have rang multiple times

[spursistan]

Curry misses nearly a month with ankle sprain and he is putting up 35 in 23 minutes on his first game back..This is difference between these guys and Kawhi..they are more naturally talented than him and can get back in the swing of things much more fastly than someone who needs to hone his rhythm and habits over time..

[YGWHI]

Curry misses nearly a month with ankle sprain and he is putting up 35 in 23 minutes on his first game back..This is difference between these guys and Kawhi..they are more naturally talented than him and can get back in the swing of things much more fastly than someone who needs to hone his rhythm and habits over time..

Since when missing just 8 games is like missing 27 and the whole preseason??

Since when "didn't play a game in 7 months" is the same thing like "missed 3 weeks"??

Yeah...

[NASpurs]

That white guy for the Knicks got sent back to the 70s.

https://streamable.com/kigc0

[TimDunkem]

Since when missing just 8 games is like missing 27 and the whole preseason??

Since when "didn't play a game in 7 months" is the same thing like "missed 3 weeks"??

Yeah...

Can't expect too much from a guy who can barely wipe his own ass yet.

[ElNono]

If only spurs had stockton. Robinson would have rang multiple times

To Stockton’s credit, he didn’t go ringchasing like Malone and Payton, tbh

[daslicer]

Curry misses nearly a month with ankle sprain and he is putting up 35 in 23 minutes on his first game back..This is difference between these guys and Kawhi..they are more naturally talented than him and can get back in the swing of things much more fastly than someone who needs to hone his rhythm and habits over time..

I remember way back during the lockout season Curry looked like he was going to have a Grant Hill career. His numbers that year were solid but he was not even an all-star caliber player due to the ankle injuries he was suffering at the time. Not even supposedly his "natural talent" could get him to overcome his bad ankles. There was a lot of doubt back then within the Warriors organization that he would ever be able to play at a high level with his bad ankles and it's the reason why Curry had to settle for a contract that was way less than the max. Curry had to eventually get surgery on the ankles and then re-learn how to play and move without putting stress on his ankles.

Kawhi's injury is serious and rare. From what I have heard it could take several months to recover from it. Anybody with the same type of injury will have the same problems that Kawhi is having right now and "natural talent" is not going to help in this situation. I have already accepted that this could be a lost season and we might not see Kawhi playing at a high level until next season. I still hold out hope that he could be in top form within a few months but we'll see what happens.

[raybies]

Harden injured tonight in game versus the Lakers.

[daslicer]

Harden injured tonight in game versus the Lakers.

I watched that game. Lakers screwed around a lot of times in that game. They could have won the game in regulation and then in the 2 OTs if they didn't make stupid mistakes.

[raybies]

I watched that game. Lakers screwed around a lot of times in that game. They could have won the game in regulation and then in the 2 OTs if they didn't make stupid mistakes.
well if kcp wasn't under house arrest and Lonzo was available I think they take it. Although Hart played good.

[SAGirl]

Spurs offense has been worse with Loenard so far than without him.
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/12/31/16835458/kawhi-leonard-comeback-san-antonio-spurs-uncanny-valley

Hopefully it's just Kawhi is still getting in shape, and he's just out of sync with everyone and he will improve.

[UZER]

Spurs offense has been worse with Loenard so far than without him.
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/12/31/16835458/kawhi-leonard-comeback-san-antonio-spurs-uncanny-valley

Hopefully it's just Kawhi is still getting in shape, and he's just out of sync with everyone and he will improve.

Kawhi's next step in the evolution is becoming a great facilitator for his team mates on the court. It would make him that much more dangerous, and this offense desperately needs that. It's why Manu is still plays a big part at 40 years old.

If he isn't 100% health, which he obviously isn't, this is a great opportunity to really work on that part of his game while he improves physically. He really shouldn't be trying to show the world he's back and put up 20ppg right now. He should be working on finding ways to get his guys open looks. The other part will them come on its own.

[Seventyniner]

Kawhi's injury is serious and rare. From what I have heard it could take several months to recover from it. Anybody with the same type of injury will have the same problems that Kawhi is having right now and "natural talent" is not going to help in this situation. I have already accepted that this could be a lost season and we might not see Kawhi playing at a high level until next season. I still hold out hope that he could be in top form within a few months but we'll see what happens.

You mean several more months? It had already been over 6.

[raybies]

I read a stat that said we have 30th offense and 1st defense with Leonard...

The problem with the offense is that, Kawhi is messing up the flow of the offense. Everyone knows he's the best player but what, like 25 games the team has been molding around LMA. We basically got conjoined twins right now. The balance is off and Pop is trying to let them figure it out like he always does. But Kawhi ball stopping isn't helping. My opinion is that until he is fully healthy he should be getting 95% of his shots/points in the flow of the offense and then growing from there. It's easier to adapt that way and more natural. It's just awkward right now.

[SAGirl]

Kawhi's next step in the evolution is becoming a great facilitator for his team mates on the court. It would make him that much more dangerous, and this offense desperately needs that. It's why Manu is still plays a big part at 40 years old.
what if he never takes that step? He's really a scorer and not a playmaker at his core.
I suppose patience... he's only just getting back.

[UZER]

what if he never takes that step tbh?
they really should have improved the point guard spot and i am not in any clan or group favoring any of the current team's PG against each other. They need a real playmaker. Kiwi dominating the ball has not led to good things for the team. Yes, individually he is a great efficient scorer, but he makes others around him worse. They play much better with him out of the lineup. That is alarming for a franchise player. This might be the season he either turns into a point forward that is good/effective or not. So far he's had a sputtering (bad) start.

If there was ever a time to find that out, it's now. This is the perfect opportunity for him to learn / work on facilitating while his body catches up.. If he can't, you start working on making the appropriate changes in the off season.

But instead, the PATFO will give Parker a huge extension, and bring Manu back again as the teams only real facilitator.

[SAGirl]

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[YGWHI]

Kiwi dominating the ball has not led to good things for the team.

It's not like the Spurs looked great against Warriors this season without Kawhi...Or against Rockets with Kawhi playing only 15 minutes... Or playing on the road when most role players failed..

If you mean that Kawhi dominating the ball has not led to good things in just SIX games...playing only +20' in TWO of the six...Yeah, it's alarming.

[YGWHI]

Spurs offense has been worse with Loenard so far than without him.
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/12/31/16835458/kawhi-leonard-comeback-san-antonio-spurs-uncanny-valley


"The Spurs run a free-flowing offense, which requires all five players to move on the same beat, cutting, setting screens and filling up space in accordance with a natural flow"

Not really. Since Parker's return most offensive plays have been P&Rs between him and LMA, then LMA from the post...Finally, Pau creating.

The only time they run a full free-flowing offense is when the 2nd unit is on the court.

[SAGirl]

It's not like the Spurs looked great against Warriors this season without Kawhi...Or against Rockets with Kawhi playing only 15 minutes... Or playing on the road when most role players failed..

If you mean that Kawhi dominating the ball has not led to good things in just SIX games...playing only +20' in TWO of the six...Yeah, it's alarming.
They haven't really played well with kawhi. The first 3 games, him playing just 15-16 minutes, there is no doubt that affects everyone's rhythm and even the game's flow. On top of that, Pop's unstable lineups (complicated by injuries) don't make it any easier.

To a degree I suspect Pop isn't making any adjustments right now. It's too soon, but he does have to try to start improving this offense. If his answer to their problems is more Bryn Forbes, God help the Spurs.

[raybies]

Not really. Since Parker's return most offensive plays have been P&Rs between him and LMA, then LMA from the post...Finally, Pau creating.

The only time they run a full free-flowing offense is when the 2nd unit is on the court.
dude please don't player fan it up right now.... Tp and LMA draws tons of good looks "in the flow of the offense". I think what we are talking about it the iso ball that Leonard does that stalls the offense and stops the ball movement. It's not Melo bad since it is efficient as heck but it doesn't help the team aspect of getting everybody touches and letting things come naturally. Don't get defensive...

[YGWHI]

Tp and LMA draws tons of good looks "in the flow of the offense".
And get tons of shots from their P&Rs and LMA's post-ups, too. It wouldn't make sense to deny the SL offense runs that way.



It doesn't help the team aspect of getting everybody touches and letting things come naturally.

Getting everybody shots...It's just delusional. There is no team in the league that works that way.

GSW have three main scorers. 1-a/1-b and vice versa in Curry/KD and then Klay as #3 option. The same with any elite team.

[YGWHI]

To a degree I suspect Pop isn't making any adjustments right now. It's too soon, but he does have to try to start improving this offense.
Pop is letting Kawhi to try to realize what he's able to do now and what not. If he can come back full strenght this season or if he must wait a real offseason-treatment to become himself again.

Obviously it takes times.

Sadly, it could lead to detriment of team-chemistry, LMA's summer talks, wins, whatever on these first weeks...But it's necessary in long-term.

I guess Pop is willing to sacrifice everything to facilitate Kawhi this proccess of new awareness of himself on court.

[tholdren]

Pop is letting Kawhi to try to realize what he's able to do now and what not. If he can come back full strenght this season or if he must wait a real offseason-treatment to become himself again.

Obviously it takes times.

Sadly, it could lead to detriment of team-chemistry, LMA's summer talks, wins, whatever on these first weeks...But it's necessary in long-term.

I guess Pop is willing to sacrifice everything to facilitate Kawhi this proccess of new awareness of himself on court.

Yep

[Robz4000]

James Harden dieded.

[YGWHI]

James Harden dieded.
They say at least for two weeks. I wonder if it's the curse on CP3...

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[SAGirl]

Just watched the last 3 minutes of the BKYN vs. MAGIC game. JSimms was awful and had 3 possessions down the stretch of a close game where he, one time TO the ball, the others he just drove in to the basket into a crowd and heaved up some shit. Magic lost 98-95
http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/orl.png&h=100&w=100 Magic




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


A. Gordon (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3064290/aaron-gordon)PF
41
8-20
2-8
2-3
1
11
12
0
1
0
2
2
-5
20


E. Fournier (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6588/evan-fournier)SF
33
4-15
0-4
5-5
0
0
0
1
1
1
1
5
+1
13


J. Simmons (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2579466/jonathon-simmons)SF
30
3-12
1-5
3-4
3
2
5
3
1
0
1
1
-10
10


B. Biyombo (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6427/bismack-biyombo)C
29
4-9
0-0
5-6
9
8
17
0
0
3
1
3
-4
13


E. Payton (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2583639/elfrid-payton)PG
32
7-15
1-3
2-3
1
3
4
7
2
1
3
2
+0
17


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


M. Speights (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3460/marreese-speights)PF
16
3-5
1-2
1-2
1
6
7
1
0
0
1
2
+6
8


W. Iwundu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3074797/wesley-iwundu)SF
19
2-6
1-3
0-0
3
1
4
1
0
0
0
2
-1
5


D.J. Augustin (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3415/dj-augustin)PG
16
1-5
0-3
1-2
0
1
1
2
0
0
1
1
-3
3


M. Hezonja (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2995706/mario-hezonja)SG
17
2-7
0-2
0-0
1
1
2
0
0
0
0
0
-4
4


A. Afflalo (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3187/arron-afflalo)SG
8
1-2
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
2
0
+5
2


K. Birch (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2578240/khem-birch)C
Has not entered game


S. Mack (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6454/shelvin-mack)PG
Has not entered game


TEAM

35-96
6-31
19-25
19
33
52
16
5
5
12
18

95




36.8%
20.0%
76.0%

[raybies]

And get tons of shots from their P&Rs and LMA's post-ups, too. It wouldn't make sense to deny the SL offense runs that way.




Getting everybody shots...It's just delusional. There is no team in the league that works that way.

GSW have three main scorers. 1-a/1-b and vice versa in Curry/KD and then Klay as #3 option. The same with any elite team.
I said touches not shots, as for Golden State. They have a motion offense/system. Yes they get shots a lot of the time off screens and cuts.

Bottom line is that the next step in Kawhi's evolution is making his teammates better. I think we can all agree Kawhi is not the most gifted passer and may be his biggest weakness. He looks for his shot a lot and while he is typically amazingly efficient it hurts everyone else, cause a free flowing offense lets people touch the ball. Role players who touch the ball more feel more comfortable which leads to more makes. Can anyone remember when we were the big one and Duncan carried the whole team and end of games typically ended with double teams leading to open threes. We would wonder who's gonna step up and make the big shot. I was young but the years the role players hit shots we won and the years we lost they didn't. That was my impression at least. My point is, the way he plays now he's putting a lot of pressure on himself when/if we go deep. LMA already stated that it was hard for him to turn it on when he was neglected(my words) for the most part and then expected to just turn it on. Most players can't do it. Only the great ones can which is why Kawhi imo needs to try to involve the team more, let things come naturally and be what we need which is a closer. or in Tim Grover's words a cleaner. May be it's just something as simple as him finding more of a feel for the game, and when to take his shots and when to be a decoy and get someone else a shot. He's very young just hope he figures it out before he really enters his prime.

[raybies]

948041031651651584

lol

[YGWHI]

I said touches not shots, as for Golden State. They have a motion offense/system. Yes they get shots a lot of the time off screens and cuts.

And the players who get the shots are still Curry, KD and Klay.

People here talk about USG% and FGAs like they're things that should be distributed equally...


Bottom line is that the next step in Kawhi's evolution is making his teammates better. I think we can all agree Kawhi is not the most gifted passer and may be his biggest weakness. He looks for his shot a lot and while he is typically amazingly efficient it hurts everyone else
At least, Im not the only one thinking that Kawhi has tried to involve people but our shooters are streaky af, with- without him on court.


"Although Kawhi Leonard (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/132534/kawhi-leonard) recorded just three assists on the night, it’s clear that he is really focusing on becoming a better distributor and playmaker this year. Sometimes tonight, this actually worked to his disadvantage, as he appeared to give up wide open layups or shots at the rim in favor of kicking the ball back out. Still, it’s good to see him working on sharpening this aspect of his game and taking on a more LeBron-esque role in terms of wanting to set the tone for the offense"
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/12/31/16834704/what-we-learned-san-antonio-spurs-loss-detroit-pistons


We would wonder who's gonna step up and make the big shot. I was young but the years the role players hit shots we won and the years we lost they didn't.
In today NBA, which role player made a winning shot in the Finals? In last 3-4 seasons I only remember winning shots from Irving's in game 7 and KD in game 3.

And they're not exactly role players.

[YGWHI]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072

[spurs10]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072 :lol So lame!

[raybies]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072
I freaked out when I saw this. Horrible officiating. He's ahead of the game with drawing fouls...

[Ice009]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072

The NBA is pathetic. If Kawhi can't get back healthy to the player he was last season in the playoffs, I think I'm done with the NBA.

I said when Tim was done, I would probably stop watching the NBA, but Kawhi turned himself into a top 3 player last season, so I wanted to continue watching because of him.

I really hope Kawhi isn't done and that he can get back to the form he was in during the playoffs and even go beyond that. I just hope his career isn't derailed by injuries.

[jermaine]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072

You know, I seriously quit watching football for pussy calls. Basketball is next!!!

[jermaine]

I freaked out when I saw this. Horrible officiating. He's ahead of the game with drawing fouls...

He's not ahead of the game, the refs are fucking stupid!! A fucking 7yr old kid could see dude hands straight up an wasn't fouling.

[UZER]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072

What in the flying hell?

[TheDoctor]

948041031651651584

lol
:lol

[TheDoctor]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072

Gross as shit, wtf?

[BillMc]

So..for a few weeks we won't watch these things? I'm devastated

947668764492931072
:lol

Ladies and gentlemen your 2018 MVP front runner?

[Seventyniner]

The league tried to take away Harden's ridiculous "continuation" fouls and instead screwed up all players' expectations. Now Harden is doing shit like this, hopefully the league at least looks at it in the offseason.

[UZER]

:lol the amount of energy he expands to get a whistle like that is just stupid.

Just play the damn game.

[raybies]

He's not ahead of the game, the refs are fucking stupid!! A fucking 7yr old kid could see dude hands straight up an wasn't fouling.
I didn't say that as a compliment but more of like, he's pathetic.

[raybies]

:lol the amount of energy he expands to get a whistle like that is just stupid.

Just play the damn game.
That's exactly why he doesn't succeed in the playoffs. You don't get those calls in playoffs. When he doesn't have the assistance he gets frustrated and flames out. It's up to Paul to carry him when that happens which Paul hasn't shown he can do either. Might be special or a complete Hindenburg.

[spurraider21]

That white guy for the Knicks got sent back to the 70s.

https://streamable.com/kigc0
pretty nasty for a team to space out the floor like that :lol... having the 4 and 5 in opposite corners, making spin moves like that

[BillMc]

That's exactly why he doesn't succeed in the playoffs. You don't get those calls in playoffs. When he doesn't have the assistance he gets frustrated and flames out. It's up to Paul to carry him when that happens which Paul hasn't shown he can do either. Might be special or a complete Hindenburg.

Can't wait for Jeff Van Gundy to scream "Oh, the humanity," during the West semi-finals.

[raybies]

Can't wait for Jeff Gundy to scream "Oh, the humanity," during the West semi-finals.
as long as i don't have to hear Marc Jackson say, "momma there goes that man." lol

[SAGirl]

948284628976234496

[UZER]

That's exactly why he doesn't succeed in the playoffs. You don't get those calls in playoffs. When he doesn't have the assistance he gets frustrated and flames out. It's up to Paul to carry him when that happens which Paul hasn't shown he can do either. Might be special or a complete Hindenburg.

True

[BillMc]

948284628976234496

Thanks for the post.

I'm not saying LMA should get the MVP, but he can't even get honorable mention while putting the Spurs on his back basically for half a season? I think people just assume its Pop's magic. ..

[UZER]

Thanks for the post.

I'm not saying LMA should get the MVP, but he can't even get honorable mention while putting the Spurs on his back basically for half a season? I think people just assume its Pop's magic. ..

It's just another way for the media to casually disregard the Spurs. But we''re all used to it by now.

[Chinook]

Thought this was interesting:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Rudy+Gay&player_id1_select=Rudy+Gay&y1=2018&player_id1=gayru01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Jeff+Green&player_id2_select=Jeff+Green&y2=2018&player_id2=greenje02&idx=players&player_id3_hint=Michael+Beasley&player_id3_select=Michael+Beasley&y3=2018&player_id3=beaslmi01&idx=players

It's a comparison among Gay, Jeff Green and Michael Beasley this season. They're all very similar player, and while Rudy has been the best by a slight margin, the other two guys are on min deals. Gotta hope Rudy has the highest upside.

[SAGirl]

Thought this was interesting:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Rudy+Gay&player_id1_select=Rudy+Gay&y1=2018&player_id1=gayru01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Jeff+Green&player_id2_select=Jeff+Green&y2=2018&player_id2=greenje02&idx=players&player_id3_hint=Michael+Beasley&player_id3_select=Michael+Beasley&y3=2018&player_id3=beaslmi01&idx=players

It's a comparison among Gay, Jeff Green and Michael Beasley this season. They're all very similar player, and while Rudy has been the best by a slight margin, the other two guys are on min deals. Gotta hope Rudy has the highest upside.
Spurs are going to be screwed if this guy's body is falling apart. He's still young enough that it shouldn't be the case, but one cannot tell as everyone's body is different.

[YGWHI]

If CP3 wants to emulate the Spurs why he signed with a team coached by D'Antoni who is the antithesis of Pop?


"Even though General Manager Daryl Morey has made no secret of the fact that he’s got nothing but the Warriors on his mind, Paul seems to want his group to emulate the San Antonio Spurs rather than Golden State."


“It’s no secret they’re the defending champions,” he said of the Warriors. “They’ve won the West, what, three years in a row? So until somebody beats them, they’re the reigning champs. You can do that if you want to, but it’s a league that changes. It changes. We were No. 1 in the West a couple of days ago. When you’ve been around long enough, you realize it’s all about how you’re playing. Where’s San Antonio right now?

Told they were just behind Houston after the Rockets’ losing streak, Paul said, “they ain’t tripping. They just want to get their guys healthy.”

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/01/morning-tip-houston-rockets-not-fretting-losing-streak-james-harden-injury?collection=david-aldridge#/

[raybies]

If CP3 wants to emulate the Spurs why he signed with a team coached by D'Antoni who is the antithesis of Pop?


"Even though General Manager Daryl Morey has made no secret of the fact that he’s got nothing but the Warriors on his mind, Paul seems to want his group to emulate the San Antonio Spurs rather than Golden State."


“It’s no secret they’re the defending champions,” he said of the Warriors. “They’ve won the West, what, three years in a row? So until somebody beats them, they’re the reigning champs. You can do that if you want to, but it’s a league that changes. It changes. We were No. 1 in the West a couple of days ago. When you’ve been around long enough, you realize it’s all about how you’re playing. Where’s San Antonio right now?

Told they were just behind Houston after the Rockets’ losing streak, Paul said, “they ain’t tripping. They just want to get their guys healthy.”

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/01/morning-tip-houston-rockets-not-fretting-losing-streak-james-harden-injury?collection=david-aldridge#/
kind of want to know what Rockets fans think of that. lol

[TD 21]

If CP3 wants to emulate the Spurs why he signed with a team coached by D'Antoni who is the antithesis of Pop?


"Even though General Manager Daryl Morey has made no secret of the fact that he’s got nothing but the Warriors on his mind, Paul seems to want his group to emulate the San Antonio Spurs rather than Golden State."


“It’s no secret they’re the defending champions,” he said of the Warriors. “They’ve won the West, what, three years in a row? So until somebody beats them, they’re the reigning champs. You can do that if you want to, but it’s a league that changes. It changes. We were No. 1 in the West a couple of days ago. When you’ve been around long enough, you realize it’s all about how you’re playing. Where’s San Antonio right now?

Told they were just behind Houston after the Rockets’ losing streak, Paul said, “they ain’t tripping. They just want to get their guys healthy.”

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/01/morning-tip-houston-rockets-not-fretting-losing-streak-james-harden-injury?collection=david-aldridge#/

Ego. Win a championship with Spurs and the credit primarily goes to Pop and by extension the culture and "system" he helped cultivate. Think there's also a perception that they don't know how to deal with superstars or stars who weren't homegrown.

I'm sick of Rockets' disrespect (because of Spurs' archaic style) and Warriors obsession. Couldn't even beat a banged up Spurs last season and still refuse to give credit, instead acting as if it was all about them.

[SAGirl]

948702517097005056

[spurraider21]

948702517097005056
8 points 5 rebounds in 5 minutes so far :lol

[gambit1990]

i didn't know/was surprised to find out gerald green was a free agent up until the rockets recently signed him.

i'd take him over forbes, brandon paul EASILY.

[UZER]

i didn't know/was surprised to find out gerald green was a free agent up until the rockets recently signed him.

i'd take him over forbes, brandon paul EASILY.

Nope. Too athletic for Pop.

[YGWHI]

i didn't know/was surprised to find out gerald green was a free agent up until the rockets recently signed him.
All I can say is he was a big part of Rockets' win in Orlando tonight.

[YGWHI]

Also...Thanks Brooklyn!

Wolves 97-98 Nets

[daslicer]

Terrible loss for the Wolves.

[tholdren]

Terrible loss for the Wolves.

Spurs blowing chances to 76ers... lol

[Robz4000]

Thunder might have their Danny Green in Ferguson tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Thunder might have their Danny Green in Ferguson tbh.

ferguson has a higher ceiling (mainly offensively)

sam presti is the best

[SAGirl]

948989234693668864

[Robz4000]

948989234693668864

Hopefully it's fatal.

[SPURt]

Hopefully it's fatal.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f67992e2d2d51fbec4a1a4dc34d49c6f/tenor.gif

[TheDoctor]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f67992e2d2d51fbec4a1a4dc34d49c6f/tenor.gif

:lmao

[SAGirl]

948989201021882369
948989441837879298

[r0drig0lac]

948685480345919488

Pop with the goods

[SAGirl]

948685480345919488

Pop with the goods
just like he said he doesn't like the 3 pt shot.
:bobo

[cutewizard]

Why cant we have guys like zGerald Green?

[cutewizard]

R9ckets mano a mnao with the Warriors right now

[cutewizard]

On second note, GS owns Houston.....

Rockets are jittery, i dont think they can win the NBA title

[bklynspursfan]

Reggie Miller just said he likes the Spurs over Houston if they meet in the playoffs again. :wow

[YGWHI]

On second note, GS owns Houston.....
Houston had three players scoring +28 points in the game and still lost.


Rockets are jittery, i dont think they can win the NBA title
Don't worry, they won't.

[YGWHI]

Reggie Miller just said he likes the Spurs over Houston if they meet in the playoffs again. :wow
Since he hates the Spurs I bet he says it just to jinx them :lol

[BillMc]

948685480345919488

Pop with the goods

And yet Bonner, the king of plus minus, lasted soooo long....

[YGWHI]

And yet Bonner, the king of plus minus, lasted soooo long....

:D

[UZER]

And yet Bonner, the king of plus minus, lasted soooo long....

It's the white privilege Pop rants against.

[bklynspursfan]

Since he hates the Spurs I bet he says it just to jinx them :lol

Maybe. But I've never heard that, he's usually gushing over other teams vs us

[8FOR!3]

Spurs are going to be screwed if this guy's body is falling apart. He's still young enough that it shouldn't be the case, but one cannot tell as everyone's body is different.

Tbh Jeff Green has outplayed his minimum contract he has looked washed up recently before this season began, nobody expected him to be this good. Beasley is what he is he can score with the best of them but idk if he’s a guy you really want on your team

[NASpurs]

Some guy here keeps mentioning Walker, I forget who. Is it TD21?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c)

With the luxury tax looming, the Charlotte Hornets should trade Kemba Walker

[SAGirl]

pretty funny

949370398684123136

[daledondale]

pretty funny

949370398684123136
I can't even see his fucking face. I hate that motherfucker.

[BatManu20]

949501144652500992

[BatManu20]

Some guy here keeps mentioning Walker, I forget who. Is it TD21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=908)?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c)

With the luxury tax looming, the Charlotte Hornets should trade Kemba Walker

I'm sitting here watching him tear up the Lakers right now. If only he had some talent around him. He's too good to rot away on that Charlotte team. Needs to be moved to a contender stat imo.

[BatManu20]

Kemba straight up for Patty + Murray + draft pick would be brilliant by PATFO. Too bad it'll never happen.

[YGWHI]

949160439480336385
I wonder what's Spurs Against The Spread number but surely is way better than this...Which is amazing if we consider that Pop rests everyone in the 2nd game


Maybe. But I've never heard that, he's usually gushing over other teams vs us
S*** E**** mentioned this Reggie Miller take during tonight game.

[Ice009]

I wouldn't mind Kemba Walker right now. Our PGs are so bad, anyone at Kemba's level would be huge for the team.

TP still plays the role of a PG well, but it looks like he's not much of a threat to do anything else. I don't know how much he last left in the tank.

[spursistan]

It is still early but looking at the West playoffs bracket: With Houston injuries piling, Dubs are now a lock for the top seed. Spurs getting either Blazers or Nuggets in 1st round, with the Pelicans staying at the 8th seed, is their best case scenario..

With how awful his team has been on the road this season Pop should not be already conceding the second seed to the Rockets-- not when Harden is sidelined in the next few weeks..


At Least the Thunder appear to have turned it around and are headed for a 4-5 seed slug-fest with the Wolves (assuming Kawhi doesn't suffer another injury setback going into our tough part of the schedule that would drop us out of the top 3). You don't want to face that team as your first round opponent after they have figured it out too late in the season..

[BatManu20]

949732069092945921

[TD 21]

Some guy here keeps mentioning Walker, I forget who. Is it TD21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=908)
?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/01/05/with-the-luxury-tax-looming-the-charlotte-hornets-should-trade-kemba-walker/?utm_term=.615c0b86f12c)


With the luxury tax looming, the Charlotte Hornets should trade Kemba Walker


It is.

Unfortunately, Bontempts is right. If Hornets were to go down this road (probably only happens if they get an inkling Walker wants out), they'd want to attach one of their bloated long term contracts and probably avoid taking back a long term one.

Maybe Spurs could get away with pawning off Mills, but only if they included Gay and took back Williams and since Gay, presuming relative health, is a near lock to opt out, that would mean getting this done by the trade deadline, which isn't happening.

Nonetheless, its still a worthwhile pursuit.



It is still early but looking at the West playoffs bracket: With Houston injuries piling, Dubs are now a lock for the top seed. Spurs getting either Blazers or Nuggets in 1st round, with the Pelicans staying at the 8th seed, is their best case scenario..

With how awful his team has been on the road this season Pop should not be already conceding the second seed to the Rockets-- not when Harden is sidelined in the next few weeks..


At Least the Thunder appear to have turned it around and are headed for a 4-5 seed slug-fest with the Wolves (assuming Kawhi doesn't suffer another injury setback going into our tough part of the schedule that would drop us out of the top 3). You don't want to face that team as your first round opponent after they have figured it out too late in the season..

Exactly. As flawed as Thunder and Pelicans are and as much as Spurs probably beat former and almost certainly beat latter, it's always best to avoid elite talent in the 1st round (obviously, it's almost inevitable thereafter). Especially if Leonard isn't back in form by then, Spurs would likely have 3rd best player in a series vs either.

[sasaint]

Does anybody know when LMA and Patty are eligible to be traded? I keep going to the Trade Machine to have some hypothetical fun, but those two are grayed-out...

[SAGirl]

Does anybody know when LMA and Patty are eligible to be traded? I keep going to the Trade Machine to have some hypothetical fun, but those two are grayed-out...
not sure about lamarcus but I have seen in these forums before that Patty can't be traded until January 15.

[sasaint]

Tbh Jeff Green has outplayed his minimum contract he has looked washed up recently before this season began, nobody expected him to be this good. Beasley is what he is he can score with the best of them but idk if he’s a guy you really want on your team

I'd love to see Beasley play for Pop. :lol

[BatManu20]

Steph has looked like 2015-16 Steph since coming back from his injury last week...


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[BatManu20]

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[BillMc]

949732069092945921

This. I don't have the stats to back it up, but Pau to LMA is when LaMarcus is most effective. One of the primary reasons not to bring Pau off the bench.

[ducks]

949501144652500992
With all those games without green and the Klaw

[Raven]

I'm sitting here watching him tear up the Lakers right now. If only he had some talent around him. He's too good to rot away on that Charlotte team. Needs to be moved to a contender stat imo.

he's not a contender type of player.

[NASpurs]

Rockets lose again.

[UZER]

949770999628623872


949782045710053377

Rhythm? Please. There's no such thing. Besides, I would never allow that kind of selfishness on my team. He would'nt have played after the first qtr.

:pop:

[Mr. Body]

Rockets lose again.

More scheduled losses for the Spurs coming up.

[gambit1990]

Does anybody know when LMA and Patty are eligible to be traded? I keep going to the Trade Machine to have some hypothetical fun, but those two are grayed-out...
:lol trade them for who?

the roster improves most when you get rid of parker. he's an expiring too, there's typically a market for that.

tony for deandre. clippers go full tank with blake out, tony would get all the touches he'd want.

[BatManu20]

Kawhi, Danny, and Rudy out tomorrow night.


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[Robz4000]

Fuck, now it's Kawhi's shoulder?

[Chinook]

I know Green's almost certainly not going to play, but Pop leaving that door open while sitting Kawhi is still an SOB move. And I do think the league needs to come up with a real standard for sitting. "Return from injury management" is really stretching it at this point.

[Chinook]

Does anybody know when LMA and Patty are eligible to be traded? I keep going to the Trade Machine to have some hypothetical fun, but those two are grayed-out...

Aldridge can't be traded until after the season. Patty has to wait until 01/15

[NASpurs]

Fuck, now it's Kawhi's shoulder?

Kawgina is getting ridiculous now.

[NASpurs]

More scheduled losses for the Spurs coming up.

Seems like it with Kawhi out.

[SAGirl]

Kawhi, Danny, and Rudy out tomorrow night.


949832934361632768
left shoulder strain??????
:wow

[BatManu20]

Regarding Kawhi's "new injury."


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[LakerHater]

I can't even see his fucking face. I hate that motherfucker.

[Spurs da champs]

Made up injury.

[r0drig0lac]

This. I don't have the stats to back it up, but Pau to LMA is when LaMarcus is most effective. One of the primary reasons not to bring Pau off the bench.



the important thing is IF they can do it against the elite teams in the league (gsw, rox, cavs, bos, okc)

[Ice009]

WHAT THE FUCK. Kawhi is out again???

This is a fucking joke at this point. FUCKING MAN UP. Don't be a fucking pussy.

If this is not Kawhi insisting on sitting all the time, and it's 100% Pop that is doing it, he needs to tell him either play me or trade me. Unfortunately, it seems to me like Kawhi is the soft one.

[Seventyniner]

I know Green's almost certainly not going to play, but Pop leaving that door open while sitting Kawhi is still an SOB move. And I do think the league needs to come up with a real standard for sitting. "Return from injury management" is really stretching it at this point.

The only logical answer is "whatever the fuck the coach decides on" and leave it at that, but there is enough whining from the media that this dance will go on.

[BatManu20]

37 years old? PATFO prob already on the phone as we speak, tbh.


950078085096968193

[YGWHI]

If this is not Kawhi insisting on sitting all the time, and it's 100% Pop that is going it, he needs to tell him either play me or trade me. Unfortunately,it seems to me like Kawhi is the soft one.

This sounds accurate.

A player who was MVP candidate/All NBA first-team/ASG starter in consecutive seasons, wants to miss many games so he wouldn't be considered for any award/accolate in the season.

Great. Obviously, that's what he wants...

Also, elite players lose money due to injuries...But it's fine. The logic behind this "he wants to sit all time" is solid.

[YGWHI]

Seems like it with Kawhi out.

Not really. The Spurs won in Portland without Kawhi this season and will do it tonight again.

Then SAC and LAL?

I can see a Spurs winning streak on the road. :flag:

[NASpurs]

Not really. The Spurs won in Portland without Kawhi this season and will do it tonight again.

Then SAC and LAL?

I can see a Spurs winning streak on the road. :flag:

Yikes.

[NASpurs]

Woj article, I just picked and chose some snippets here and there.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/Woj22002854/nba-trade-deadline-biggest-storylines-potential-deals-watch-adrian-wojnarowski

Buyers, sellers, untouchables and more trade buzz as deadline looms


"Teams are targeting the availability of Brooklyn's DeMarre Carroll (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3970/demarre-carroll), Utah's Alec Burks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6429/alec-burks), Orlando's Evan Fournier (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6588/evan-fournier) and Atlanta's Kent Bazemore (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore), among others."

"The Los Angeles Lakers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers), needing to shed salary for summer free agency, had been hopeful of waiting until the end of the season to move Jordan Clarkson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson) -- owed $26 million beyond this season -- but there's a mutual desire to find something sooner than later. The Lakers have made it clear that Clarkson, Julius Randle (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3064514/julius-randle) and Larry Nance are available.

Los Angeles has given up hope on unloading Luol Deng (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2429/luol-deng)'s contract in a trade because it would simply necessitate attaching too many draft assets."

"Atlanta is pushing to unload veterans and gather more draft picks and young players. Bazemore, Ersan Ilyasova (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova) and Marco Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli) are expendable.


The Bulls are still planning to trade forward Nikola Mirotic (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6459/nikola-mirotic), which can't happen until Jan. 15 or without his permission, based on his contract. Mirotic has been intrigued with the Utah Jazz (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/utah/utah-jazz), whose coach, Quin Snyder, has a reputation for maximizing offensive talent.


Memphis wants to find a first-round pick for Tyreke Evans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3983/tyreke-evans), but that is likely to prove difficult. The Grizzlies have missed in several drafts on first-rounders, including the waiving of 2015 No. 17 pick Wade Baldwin, and need to replenish their stock of picks. As a rental on an expiring deal, it is hard to imagine Evans delivering that kind of a return."

[LittleCriminal]

someone mentioned to me they thought they heard Bill or Sean mention something about Leonards injury not being that serious..
can anybody attest to this?

[spurraider21]

Tyreke could run the point but i dont see how we make that work. Fatty's contract sorta has us hamstrung at the position

[LittleCriminal]

Woj article, I just picked and chose some snippets here and there.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/Woj22002854/nba-trade-deadline-biggest-storylines-potential-deals-watch-adrian-wojnarowski

Buyers, sellers, untouchables and more trade buzz as deadline looms


"Teams are targeting the availability of Brooklyn's DeMarre Carroll (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3970/demarre-carroll), Utah's Alec Burks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6429/alec-burks), Orlando's Evan Fournier (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6588/evan-fournier) and Atlanta's Kent Bazemore (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore), among others."

"The Los Angeles Lakers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers), needing to shed salary for summer free agency, had been hopeful of waiting until the end of the season to move Jordan Clarkson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson) -- owed $26 million beyond this season -- but there's a mutual desire to find something sooner than later. The Lakers have made it clear that Clarkson, Julius Randle (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3064514/julius-randle) and Larry Nance are available.

Los Angeles has given up hope on unloading Luol Deng (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2429/luol-deng)'s contract in a trade because it would simply necessitate attaching too many draft assets."

"Atlanta is pushing to unload veterans and gather more draft picks and young players. Bazemore, Ersan Ilyasova (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova) and Marco Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli) are expendable.


The Bulls are still planning to trade forward Nikola Mirotic (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6459/nikola-mirotic), which can't happen until Jan. 15 or without his permission, based on his contract. Mirotic has been intrigued with the Utah Jazz (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/utah/utah-jazz), whose coach, Quin Snyder, has a reputation for maximizing offensive talent.


Memphis wants to find a first-round pick for Tyreke Evans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3983/tyreke-evans), but that is likely to prove difficult. The Grizzlies have missed in several drafts on first-rounders, including the waiving of 2015 No. 17 pick Wade Baldwin, and need to replenish their stock of picks. As a rental on an expiring deal, it is hard to imagine Evans delivering that kind of a return."


Anderson For Larry Nance Jr works for me..

[r0drig0lac]

Tyreke would be amazing, I would also like Randle

[NASpurs]

950490284827205632

[TimDunkem]

Tyreke would need to take Manu's role and Pop ain't having that shit.

[Dex]

WHAT THE FUCK. Kawhi is out again???

This is a fucking joke at this point. FUCKING MAN UP. Don't be a fucking pussy.

If this is not Kawhi insisting on sitting all the time, and it's 100% Pop that is going it, he needs to tell him either play me or trade me. Unfortunately, it seems to me like Kawhi is the soft one.

Or, you know...there is a legitimate injury concern?

[Dex]

Woj article, I just picked and chose some snippets here and there.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/Woj22002854/nba-trade-deadline-biggest-storylines-potential-deals-watch-adrian-wojnarowski

Buyers, sellers, untouchables and more trade buzz as deadline looms


"Teams are targeting the availability of Brooklyn's DeMarre Carroll (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3970/demarre-carroll), Utah's Alec Burks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6429/alec-burks), Orlando's Evan Fournier (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6588/evan-fournier) and Atlanta's Kent Bazemore (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore), among others."

"The Los Angeles Lakers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers), needing to shed salary for summer free agency, had been hopeful of waiting until the end of the season to move Jordan Clarkson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson) -- owed $26 million beyond this season -- but there's a mutual desire to find something sooner than later. The Lakers have made it clear that Clarkson, Julius Randle (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3064514/julius-randle) and Larry Nance are available.

Los Angeles has given up hope on unloading Luol Deng (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2429/luol-deng)'s contract in a trade because it would simply necessitate attaching too many draft assets."

"Atlanta is pushing to unload veterans and gather more draft picks and young players. Bazemore, Ersan Ilyasova (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova) and Marco Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli) are expendable.


The Bulls are still planning to trade forward Nikola Mirotic (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6459/nikola-mirotic), which can't happen until Jan. 15 or without his permission, based on his contract. Mirotic has been intrigued with the Utah Jazz (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/utah/utah-jazz), whose coach, Quin Snyder, has a reputation for maximizing offensive talent.


Memphis wants to find a first-round pick for Tyreke Evans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3983/tyreke-evans), but that is likely to prove difficult. The Grizzlies have missed in several drafts on first-rounders, including the waiving of 2015 No. 17 pick Wade Baldwin, and need to replenish their stock of picks. As a rental on an expiring deal, it is hard to imagine Evans delivering that kind of a return."

Bring back Beli. :hungry:

I don't care if he is a traffic cone on defense and we already have too many guards. Ferrari will always have a place in my heart for 2014.

[jermaine]

Bring back Beli. :hungry:

I don't care if he is a traffic cone on defense and we already have too many guards. Ferrari will always have a place in my heart for 2014.

Boooooy, I'd love him too!!! I'm tires of seeing Forbes lil ass, an I really like Forbes.

[NASpurs]

950791489210208262

[SAGirl]

950890350326894592

[Mr. Body]

Anderson For Larry Nance Jr works for me..

Lol.

[SAGirl]

950917357974753280

[Spurs da champs]

950917357974753280

Ibaka backed down pretty quick.

[spurs10]

950917357974753280 Looked like Johnson punched him in the face.

[Budkin]

He took Captain Jack’s advice on serg Abaka and went into his mouth.

[Chinook]

Ibaka tried that fake tough guy shit one too many times. Hope LMA knows about this.

[YGWHI]

Yikes.
Almost.

111-110.

For the record, this was the first time in the season the Spurs lost a game that I said they would win.

But for Spurs sake I'll sacrifice my clairvoyance gift just for a while...:D

[YGWHI]

So Russ isn't available for media when the Thunder loses? Good to know.

951127335608057856

[YGWHI]

"Atlanta is pushing to unload veterans and gather more draft picks and young players. Bazemore, Ersan Ilyasova (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2767/ersan-ilyasova) and Marco Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli) are expendable."

If not a player, the Spurs could sign him to cover the team. He already writes better about basketball than SAEN beat writer.

I dont know much about euro players but I really enjoyed reading his article.

The best part is about Manu.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/marco-belinelli-the-five-best-european-players-ive-ever-faced/

[NASpurs]

Ibaka backed down pretty quick.

I read that Johnson is a 2nd degree black belt, has an undefeated MMA record and is 20-0 in kickboxing. He also comes from a long line of family members involved in martial arts. Ibaka probably remembered not to fuck with him. :lol

[daledondale]

If not a player, the Spurs could sign him to cover the team. He already writes better about basketball than SAEN beat writer.

I dont know much about euro players but I really enjoyed reading his article.

The best part is about Manu.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/marco-belinelli-the-five-best-european-players-ive-ever-faced/
Good stuff.

[SAGirl]

If not a player, the Spurs could sign him to cover the team. He already writes better about basketball than SAEN beat writer.

I dont know much about euro players but I really enjoyed reading his article.

The best part is about Manu.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/marco-belinelli-the-five-best-european-players-ive-ever-faced/

Definitely good stuff.
Thanks for posting that.

[r0drig0lac]

Curry re-sprained his ankle

https://media.giphy.com/media/pa37AAGzKXoek/giphy.gif

[daledondale]

Curry re-sprained his ankle

https://media.giphy.com/media/pa37AAGzKXoek/giphy.gif
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[CGD]

Ibaka backed down pretty quick.

James Johnson is also an MMA fighter, no bs. Not a person for A-baka to try to his take tough guy stuff on.

[daslicer]

Lou Williams dropped 50 points against the Warriors.

[spurs10]

James Johnson is also an MMA fighter, no bs. Not a person for A-baka to try to his take tough guy stuff on.
Yeah hi I heard everyone in his family are black belts.

[james evans]

Lou Williams dropped 50 points against the Warriors.
yep and the Warriors lost. Guess what that means for tonight's game against the Lakers.

[daslicer]

yep and the Warriors lost. Guess what that means for tonight's game against the Lakers.

I gave up on the Spurs catching the Warriors in the standings a long time ago. Anyways Spurs still got to win these games since the Wolves are starting to play better of late and could steal the 3 seed away from the Spurs.

[Arcadian]

Let me guess: Curry's ankle will magically heal 100% just in time for the playoffs, while Kawhi will come down with leprosy - and a brain-eating parasite.

[coachmac87]

Lou Williams dropped 50 points against the Warriors.

He’s been on fire lately...

One of most underrated players in the league

[spurs10]

Let me guess: Curry's ankle will magically heal 100% just in time for the playoffs, while Kawhi will come down with leprosy - and a brain-eating parasite.
:lol Spurs probably just need to rent out an entire floor of the local hospital for the rest of the season. The Coyote can come visit them and lift their spirits.

[daslicer]

Let me guess: Curry's ankle will magically heal 100% just in time for the playoffs, while Kawhi will come down with leprosy - and a brain-eating parasite.

:lmao I have to admit that was funny.

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[Seventyniner]

Lou Williams dropped 50 points against the Warriors.

:lol that last shot

[Ice009]

He’s been on fire lately...

One of most underrated players in the league

Well, last season I said the Spurs should try trading Mills to the Lakers for him.

He would have been much, much better than Mills as instant offense off the bench.

[cutewizard]

We need reinforcements.......

[TimDunkem]

Well, last season I said the Spurs should try trading Mills to the Lakers for him.

He would have been much, much better than Mills as instant offense off the bench.

Spurstalk would've turned that down and most PATFO suckers here would still probably turn that down this season if given the chance. Who cares if he's infinitely more talanted than Mills?! Mills has so much culture and he's practically the team captain.










:lmao

[Ice009]

Spurstalk would've turned that down and most PATFO suckers here would still probably turn that down this season if given the chance. Who cares if he's infinitely more talanted than Mills?! Mills has so much culture and he's practically the team captain.

:lmao

I got shut down pretty quick when I suggested it. I wanted to trade Mills for him because I thought he'd do a better job than Mills does with his role, and the other reason was that I didn't want Mills back.

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpe_Vz0vZw#t=05m02s

the last game harden played in, the one he got hurt in, cp3 put up 15 points in overtime.

[gambit1990]

new all star voting tallies came out. manu is 5th amongst guards in the west. about 30,000 votes behind klay.

[TheDoctor]

Spurstalk would've turned that down and most PATFO suckers here would still probably turn that down this season if given the chance. Who cares if he's infinitely more talanted than Mills?! Mills has so much culture and he's practically the team captain.


:lmao

But But I come from an indigenous tribe and hang out w/ cute marsupials.

[tholdren]

Spurstalk would've turned that down and most PATFO suckers here would still probably turn that down this season if given the chance. Who cares if he's infinitely more talanted than Mills?! Mills has so much culture and he's practically the team captain.










:lmao

One plays sg and one plays pg... wonder who scores more?

[BatManu20]

951589352353779714

[BatManu20]

951582082194604032

[tholdren]

951589352353779714

Too little rest

[NASpurs]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32565/pistons-talking-with-teams-about-a-potential-stanley-johnson-trade

Pistons talking with teams about a potential Stanley Johnson trade

[SAGirl]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32565/pistons-talking-with-teams-about-a-potential-stanley-johnson-trade

Pistons talking with teams about a potential Stanley Johnson trade
Spurs were rumored to have interest in him last season irc...

[sasaint]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/32565/pistons-talking-with-teams-about-a-potential-stanley-johnson-trade

Pistons talking with teams about a potential Stanley Johnson trade

Pass. Spurs need more offense. This guy is strictly a defensive specialist with limited a very limited offensive game.

[spursistan]

Pass. Spurs need more offense. This guy is strictly a defensive specialist with limited a very limited offensive game.
Not to mention, a questionable work ethics from what has been reported..Not ready to give up anything major for him. I would probably inquire about Justice Winslow instead if they want to go that route..

[DAF86]

Lebron coming to SA next season.

[spursistan]

Lebron coming to SA next season.
He is not winning another ring unless he makes that move. I fully expect him to be a Rocket or a Laker next summer though..

[Robz4000]

He is not winning another ring unless he makes that move. I fully expect him to be a Rocket or a Laker next summer though..

Why the fuck would he wanna join this trainwreck? He'd definitely have a better chance elsewhere (not the Lakers obviously). Lebron on the Sixers would be pretty sick.

[phxspurfan]

I fully expect him [LeBron] to be a Rocket

That would be most b**** move even worse than Durant to the Dubs IMO

[phxspurfan]

Why the fuck would he wanna join this trainwreck? He'd definitely have a better chance elsewhere (not the Lakers obviously). Lebron on the Sixers would be pretty sick.

LeBron on the Lakers would be legit dude. Think Odom on (more) roids.

[Robz4000]

LeBron on the Lakers would be legit dude. Think Odom on (more) roids.

LeBron on the Lakers would still be swept by the Dubs (and would lose to the Rockets/Spurs/Thunder).

[sasaint]

Why the fuck would he wanna join this trainwreck? He'd definitely have a better chance elsewhere (not the Lakers obviously). Lebron on the Sixers would be pretty sick.

This. Why would he want to come west? Actually, he may regret that he didn't keep the Celtic card rather than dealing it to Kyrie. Would he ever consider re-teaming with Kyrie?!?!

[DAF86]

That would be most b**** move even worse than Durant to the Dubs IMO

lol son. Not even close.

[daslicer]

Why the fuck would he wanna join this trainwreck? He'd definitely have a better chance elsewhere (not the Lakers obviously). Lebron on the Sixers would be pretty sick.

I have thought about him going to the Sixers but I think the only thing that will hold him back from going is Embiid's health. You just don't know if Embiid is capable of playing a full season. It still wouldn't surprise me if he went to the Sixers and just signed a 1 year deal.

[NASpurs]

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0743300734270838786-4


Spurs coach Gregg Popovich was asked what helped to bring about LaMarcus Aldridge's resurgence: "When he said, ‘I want to be traded.' It's as simple as that. I said, ‘Woah, nobody's ever said that to me before.' It's my 20-whatever year, and nobody's ever said that like, ‘I'm not enjoying this. I'm not confident. I'm not sure you want me here. I want to be traded.'" Popovich was asked if that conversation took place after the season. "Yes, yes. I thought that's already been public? So, we had some dinners and meetings and laughed. I was very candid with him. I told him, ‘I'd be happy to trade you. You get me a talent like Kevin Durant, and I'll drive you to the airport. I'll pack your bags. And I will drive you there, get you on the plane, and get you seated.' He laughed you know, that kind of thing. I said, ‘But short of that, I'm your best buddy because you're here for another year, and you ain't going nowhere. Because we're not gonna get for you talent-wise what we would want. So, let's figure this thing out.' And we did. That's what we came to. As discussions went on, it became apparent to me that it really was me. He's been playing in the league for nine years. I'm not going to turn him into some other player. I could do some things defensively or rebounding-wise. But on offense, I was going to move him everywhere. That was just silly on my part. Total overcoaching. So, we took care of it, and he's been fantastic."

[coachmac87]

He is not winning another ring unless he makes that move. I fully expect him to be a Rocket or a Laker next summer though..

I do think Rockets are something to keep an eye on...I stated that before the season started..but I do believe Spurs have better shot than the Lakers..

[coachmac87]

This. Why would he want to come west? Actually, he may regret that he didn't keep the Celtic card rather than dealing it to Kyrie. Would he ever consider re-teaming with Kyrie?!?!

Sure. Stay in the East and make 12 straight Finals and be 3-9...

Or go West and team up to dethrone the juggernaut and get a cake walk win in the Finals and actually win and even out your “Finals Record”..

Regardless the Warriors are the team to beat..doesn’t matter if you’re in the East or West

[tholdren]

lol son. Not even close.

Yep lebum going to heat was worse

[phxspurfan]

LeBron on the Lakers would still be swept by the Dubs (and would lose to the Rockets/Spurs/Thunder).

Absolutely. But someone as MJ comparison hungry as LeRoid would surely get desperate and pull a move like that to try and go out with 7




"Not 5, not 6 not 7" :lol

[UZER]

Lebron coming to SA next season.

And it will finally be the year his body breaks down and his game falls off.

[NASpurs]

And it will finally be the year his body breaks down and his game falls off.

:lol I laugh because it's 100% true.

[TimDunkem]

One plays sg and one plays pg... wonder who scores more?

Not just about PPG.

[BillMc]

And it will finally be the year his body breaks down and his game falls off.
:lol

A season of Pop saying "LeBron is ready, when he's ready. Next question."

[bklynspursfan]

951829994585632770

[SAGirl]

951829994585632770
Boban is so funny. The guys having fun. :tu

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Cavs were up 22 pts this game... their 3rd straight loss.


952005591743922176[/URL]

[daslicer]

Cavs are falling apart. It will be interesting to watch their meltdown on MLK day when they lose to the Warriors.