Spurs Draft Discussion: 2019 NBA Draft

[Drom John]

cleveland.com
NBA mock draft 2019: Zion Williamson sweepstakes and the Cavaliers' end-of-season odds
By Matt Goul, cleveland.com | Posted April 02, 2019 at 05:35 AM | Updated April 02, 2019 at 06:11 AM


19. San Antonio: Matisse Thybulle, 6-6 forward, Washington

Spurs' options: The Spurs could go with one of two players from Washington, be it the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year or overall Player of the Year Jaylen Nowell, who recently declared for the draft.


29. San Antonio (from Toronto): Naz Reid, 6-10 forward/center, LSU

Spurs' options: This is San Antonio's second pick of the first round, and it comes courtesy of last year's big Kawhi Leonard trade. Reid could make it into the first round after a freshman season in which he was a constant double-double threat for LSU.

[Drom John]

Drafttek: 2019 NBA Mock Draft Rev 1
April 2, 2019 1:55 AM EST


20 San Antonio
San Antonio
Tre Jones
Duke
PG
Reach/Value: -9 Height:
6-2
Weight:
185


29 San Antonio
San Antonio Moses Brown
UCLA
C
Reach/Value: -9 Height:
7-1
Weight:
245


50 San Antonio
San Antonio Eric Paschall
Villanova
SF
Reach/Value: +3 Height:
6-7
Weight:
260

[Drom John]

nbadraft.net: Consensus Mock 2019
(112 users) Updated: 4/2/19 5:31 am


18

San Antonio San Antonio

Jaxson Hayes

6-11

220

PF/C

Texas

Fr.


29

<a href='' title='Spurs receive Raptors 2019 first round pick (top 20 protected, or 2020 second rounder)' class='.mock_team_link'>*San Antonio</a> *San Antonio

Chuma Okeke

6-8

235

SF/PF

Auburn


48

San Antonio San Antonio

Ky Bowman

6-1

190

PG

Boston College

Jr.

[exstatic]

Okeke won't be there at 29, blown out knee notwithstanding. Not in this draft.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Okeke won't be there at 29, blown out knee notwithstanding. Not in this draft.


You're probably right. But I still don't think the Spurs can/will invest their first on him. At this point, he's a lock to miss training camp, and that has always been the kiss of death for young players under Pop. I guess he could get in a half season I Austin, if rehab goes well. But after this shitshow season, aren't they obligated to do something to get better? And don't say they're thinking long term - because if they were, they would be lottery bound this year.

[duncan2150]

You're probably right. But I still don't think the Spurs can/will invest their first on him. At this point, he's a lock to miss training camp, and that has always been the kiss of death for young players under Pop. I guess he could get in a half season I Austin, if rehab goes well. But after this shitshow season, aren't they obligated to do something to get better? And don't say they're thinking long term - because if they were, they would be lottery bound this year.

Plus the fact that we don’t have a lot of free roster’s spots next year. The spurs will draft a player who can bring something to the team or stash a player.

[r0drig0lac]

I would be happy with Doumbouya and Thybulle

[Mr. Body]

I don't see why they wouldn't take Okeke if available.

[duncan2150]

I don't see why they wouldn't take Okeke if available.

Maybe I’m wrong but he will take a roster spot if we draft him ?

[Mr. Body]

Maybe I’m wrong but he will take a roster spot if we draft him ?

So what?

[duncan2150]

So what?

So with already 12 players on contracts, the spurs will not take an injured player with a guaranteed contract imo.

[exstatic]

I'm not sure why everyone is stressing about roster spots. BBREF shows only 10 contracts for next year. Metu isn't shown, but even if he has a deal for next year, he's cheap and very cut-able. He's sucked horribly this year, and hasn't even done that well in Austin.

Even if you keep Metu, and re-sign Rudy Gay, that still leaves 3 spots open.

[Mr. Body]

So with already 12 players on contracts, the spurs will not take an injured player with a guaranteed contract imo.

I didn't realize the Spurs had so many titans of basketball they can't get rid of a single player at the far end of the bench.

[Dennis the Menace]

Okeke won't be there at 29, blown out knee notwithstanding. Not in this draft.

Maybe they package both 1st round picks to get him?

[BackHome]

He will be there at 29 the question is do you take him? Another player we might take would be Louis King from Oregon

[Drom John]

Basketball Insiders:
Mock Drafts
NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft – 4/2/19

With the Final Four set and a large number of the top prospects eliminated, things on the NBA Draft front are picking up steam. Steve Kyler offers up a new 60-pick Mock Draft.
Steve Kyler



19

Charles Bassey
San Antonio Spurs

Western KentuckyFreshman
Age: 18
Height: 6' 10
Position: C
Weight: 245



29

Goga Bitadze
San Antonio Spurs

Mega BemaxInternational
Age: 19
Height: 6' 11
Position: C
Weight: 250



48

Austin Wiley
San Antonio Spurs

Auburn Junior
Age: 20
Height: 6' 10
Position: C
Weight: 260

[exstatic]

Maybe they package both 1st round picks to get him?

You wouldn't have to do that, but I think if you want him, you'll have to use that first pick, 18 or 19. He'll go somewhere between there and the Rap's (former) pick.

[duncan2150]

I didn't realize the Spurs had so many titans of basketball they can't get rid of a single player at the far end of the bench.

.... poor statement

i will be happy if the spurs get rid of some players but I just think they won’t....

[duncan2150]

I'm not sure why everyone is stressing about roster spots.

it’s not stressing but being realistic with what spurs FO does in general. I hope one of mills or Forbes will not be there next year for example but I’m not sure they will trade or cut one of them.

[Mr. Body]

.... poor statement

i will be happy if the spurs get rid of some players but I just think they won’t....

They get rid of players every single year. Go back and find an offseason where the roster remained the same.

[exstatic]

it’s not stressing but being realistic with what spurs FO does in general. I hope one of mills or Forbes will not be there next year for example but I’m not sure they will trade or cut one of them.

I see a minimum of 3 spots available for draft picks and FAs, four if you cut that awful waste of a 2nd rounder Metu.

[duncan2150]

They get rid of players every single year. Go back and find an offseason where the roster remained the same.

I agree but i don't think they Will take an injured rookie With 4-5 roster spot available. We'll See maybe they Will make some moove or take the risk with okeke.

[cd021]

Hope they take Doumbouya and Bitadze with the 18/19th and 29th picks tbh.

Neither may come over next season but both are very good prospects and may be worth the wait.

[Gordy58]

If Kevin Porter Jr falls, I think we need to take him. Kids got star potential. Okpala, Clarke, and Thybulle need to be serious considerations

[ZeusWillJudge]

If Kevin Porter Jr falls, I think we need to take him. Kids got star potential. Okpala, Clarke, and Thybulle need to be serious considerations

I'm not a believer in Okpala at the NBA level, but it seems like I'm in the minority more and more. Lots of talk now about him and Clarke both going higher than I expected. Clarke is a solid player, but isn't it pretty much the consensus that the Spurs need a player who can shoot the 3? Clarke doesn't shoot 3's much, and when he does he's not good.

I could see Porter falling to the Spurs first pick. I really cringe at the thought of yet another 6'6" player who coughs the ball up under pressure. If the Spurs were to take him, it seems like it would have to mean they're looking to deal one of their other young players. Projections for Thybulle are all over the place.

One thing is for sure - there just isn't enough room for all the players who are projected to go above the Spurs' first pick. Somebody has to fall. And if there are a couple of surprises, then several people have to fall.

Thinking about this is a lot more fun than watching the college team that's playing the Nuggets right now.

[Drom John]

NBC Sports Washington:
2019 NBA Mock Draft 6.0: Wrapping up the NCAA Tournament
By NBC Sports Washington
Updated: Tuesday, April 2, 2019.



19. San Antonio Spurs: Nassir Little

College: UNC
Position: Forward
Height/Weight: 6-6/220
Year: Freshman

Little hasn't exactly lived up to the hype for the Tar Heels, but the talent is there as evidenced in the Tar Heels' Second Round win over Washington.




29. San Antonio Spurs (via TOR): Ty Jerome

College: Virginia
Position: Shooting Guard
Height/Weight: 6-5/194
Year: Junior

Jerome fueled the Cavaliers' run to the Final Four with his winning mentality and 3-point shooting (39.9 percent). The Spurs don't necessarily need guard depth, but Jerome fits their mold.

[Drom John]

Fansided: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: RJ Barrett moves back to No. 2
by Brendon Kleen 10 hours ago [aka 4 April 2019]



29
Dylan Windler
F, Belmont
Belmont

This pick comes by way of the Raptors. Windler is coming off a fantastic closing statement to his college career and fits nicely within San Antonio’s ball and player movement offense. He can space the floor, move without the ball and guard both forward spots on defense.



19
Goga Bitadze
C, Mega Bemax
Mega Bemax

As the Spurs move on from their veteran frontcourt of Pau Gasol (already waived) and LaMarcus Aldridge (could be a free agent in 2020), they could look to the draft for youth at the position. Bitadze can move well and shoot with legit size.

[Drom John]

Fansided: Swarm and Sting: Charlotte Hornets: 2019 NBA Mock Draft Vol. 1
by Zachary Padmore 9 hours ago [AKA 4 April 2019]


No. 19 – San Antonio Spurs:

Zachary Padmore – Goga Bitadze. (Republic of Georgia)

“Goga Bitadze has been one of the more under-the-radar type prospects in this years draft class. Despite that, he still has to be considered one of the better centers in the class.

He’s just a beast in the paint and has a ton of different moves he uses down low. He’s also been working on extending the range on his jump-shot. His mechanics look good, now it’s just repetition for him moving forward.

San Antonio could use a young front court player to add on the roster, so Bitadze is certainly an option for them.”

Giovanni Spillman – Ty Jerome. (Virginia)

“The Spurs have had some success as of late with Derrick White, but I do not think he has a long future with the team. With the Spurs first rounder, I would suggest they take another guard, such as Ty Jerome.

Jerome has played three seasons at Virginia and has a nice basketball IQ. As a guard, he is a nice scorer and defender, the perfect combination for someone playing for Gregg Popovich.

He is 6’5″, which is good height for a point guard. With a little care, I feel that he can become a productive player for the Spurs.”


No. 29 – San Antonio Spurs (VIA TOR):

Zachary Padmore – Admiral Schofield. (Tennessee)
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“Picking a guy like Admiral Schofield late in the first round just seems like something that the Spurs would do. Schofield, a projected second rounder by many, could be a major steal for the Spurs, and they have a track record of success in the draft.

Schofield is a tough forward/guard that can really shoot it. He comes into this draft NBA ready, and with his body and shooting ability, it would not surprise me to see him in an NBA rotation early into his career.

He reminds me a little bit of Utah’s Jae Crowder. He’s undersized, but he can shoot it and he plays intense defense. I think he would be a great target for not only the Spurs, but for all playoff teams picking late in the first round.”

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Latest Pre-Final Four Predictions
Joe Tansey
April 4, 2019


18. San Antonio Spurs: Bol Bol, C, Oregon


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Cameron Johnson, SF/PF, North Carolina

[Drom John]

SBNation: Pacific Takes: Pac-12 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Two Washington Huskies go in first round
An updated 2019 NBA mock draft heading into the Final Four.
By Jack Follman Apr 4, 2019, 9:50am PDT


19. San Antonio - KZ Okpala SG Stanford - The Spurs have made a living on versatile sleepers like Okpala, who is one of the nation’s best players most people out of Pac-12 country haven’t heard about. A combo SG/SF with great length, I see him being a bench player right away at the next level.


San Antonio - Chuma Okeke SF Auburn [Blurbs only for Pac 12 players]

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Would be very happy with Okpala at 19 and Okeke at 29. Two decent shots at a versatile future long 3.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fansided: Swarm and Sting: Charlotte Hornets: 2019 NBA Mock Draft Vol. 1
by Zachary Padmore 9 hours ago [AKA 4 April 2019]


“Picking a guy like Admiral Schofield late in the first round just seems like something that the Spurs would do. Schofield, a projected second rounder by many, could be a major steal for the Spurs, and they have a track record of success in the draft.

Schofield is a tough forward/guard that can really shoot it. He comes into this draft NBA ready, and with his body and shooting ability, it would not surprise me to see him in an NBA rotation early into his career.

He reminds me a little bit of Utah’s Jae Crowder. He’s undersized, but he can shoot it and he plays intense defense. I think he would be a great target for not only the Spurs, but for all playoff teams picking late in the first round.”

Am I the only one who thinks the Spurs have enough 6'5" guys? I guess if their plan is to package up one or two of them for a trade, they might have to draft a replacement. But without that, I don't know what they would do with another guard.

I liked what I saw from Admiral Schofield. Not a star, but should be a rotation player somewhere. I just get a little tired of scouting reports that say "he's undersized, but". I would really like to see the Spurs get a player in the draft who has legit NBA size for his position.

Still, might as well have some fun on a Friday. If we did draft Schofield, the Spurs would have at least one new fan for life:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNEwCCLmIEU

[Atl Spur]

Am I the only one who thinks the Spurs have enough 6'5" guys? I guess if their plan is to package up one or two of them for a trade, they might have to draft a replacement. But without that, I don't know what they would do with another guard.

I liked what I saw from Admiral Schofield. Not a star, but should be a rotation player somewhere. I just get a little tired of scouting reports that say "he's undersized, but". I would really like to see the Spurs get a player in the draft who has legit NBA size for his position.

Still, might as well have some fun on a Friday. If we did draft Schofield, the Spurs would have at least one new fan for life:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNEwCCLmIEU

Yo, are you gonna take the bet? All this talking you like to do is so unecessary.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Yo, are you gonna take the bet? All this talking you like to do is so unecessary.


You want me to take a bet that Okeke won't be there at 29, when I had already agreed with someone that I don't think he'll be there at 29? You really are autistic, aren't you?




Okeke won't be there at 29, blown out knee notwithstanding. Not in this draft.

You're probably right.

[objective]

I still haven't watched many full games of nearly all the college prospects aside from Thybulle and Roby, won't get to that until after the Spurs season is over, but

From what I've seen so far, limited as it is, I think Okeke is much better than Okpala, ACL and all. I'd rather see Okeke at 19 than Okpala and take the rehab redshirt year. Okpala just looks like a slower Okeke, none of the step or pop.

But I haven't watched the full games yet, probably have over 10 of each dvr'd, so maybe I'm wrong

[duncan2150]

I still haven't watched many full games of nearly all the college prospects aside from Thybulle and Roby, won't get to that until after the Spurs season is over, but

From what I've seen so far, limited as it is, I think Okeke is much better than Okpala, ACL and all. I'd rather see Okeke at 19 than Okpala and take the rehab redshirt year. Okpala just looks like a slower Okeke, none of the step or pop.

But I haven't watched the full games yet, probably have over 10 of each dvr'd, so maybe I'm wrong

What do you think about roby ? he has some good defensive numbers, looks he got some athletism and size also.

[objective]

What do you think about roby ? he has some good defensive numbers, looks he got some athletism and size also.

I thought he was okay but an NBA 4. DJ Wilson or DJ Wilson-lite. Didn't really stand out for offensive potential. And that is fine, that's probably a rotation caliber bench player after he gets over himself in the g-league but I would rather see someone who I think could play 3 with some 4 like Okeke.

I have him below Thybulle

[duncan2150]

I thought he was okay but an NBA 4. DJ Wilson or DJ Wilson-lite. Didn't really stand out for offensive potential. And that is fine, that's probably a rotation caliber bench player after he gets over himself in the g-league but I would rather see someone who I think could play 3 with some 4.

I have him below Thybulle

thanks I also have him below thybulle

[Atl Spur]

You want me to take a bet that Okeke won't be there at 29, when I had already agreed with someone that I don't think he'll be there at 29? You really are autistic, aren't you?






Fair enough. I’ll be that but let me be clear.....you are a coward! You already knew that though! Little boy don’t make me be mean.

[joeyjfive]

Raptors just lost again. We got a shot at 28th pick.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fair enough. I’ll be that but let me be clear.....you are a coward! You already knew that though! Little boy don’t make me be mean.


You're just ten pounds of crazy in a five pound bag. Dayum.

[Atl Spur]

You're just ten pounds of crazy in a five pound bag. Dayum.

No worries.......

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Am I the only one who thinks the Spurs have enough 6'5" guys? I guess if their plan is to package up one or two of them for a trade, they might have to draft a replacement. But without that, I don't know what they would do with another guard.

I liked what I saw from Admiral Schofield. Not a star, but should be a rotation player somewhere. I just get a little tired of scouting reports that say "he's undersized, but". I would really like to see the Spurs get a player in the draft who has legit NBA size for his position.

Still, might as well have some fun on a Friday. If we did draft Schofield, the Spurs would have at least one new fan for life:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNEwCCLmIEU


I agree with you when it comes to picking all these under sized or guys who are 6'5" tweener players. If they are that short at least let them have a crazy wing span like that Talon Horton-Walker guy for Iowa State. Dude supposedly has a 7-4 wing span at 6'4" tall! But I read he played more forward at school than wing, which isn't a good thing.

Hopefully we get some guys who can play the 3/4 position and they stand around 6'8 and above with decent wing span and athletic ability

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I like his college numbers defensively but other than that why is everyone so dead set on getting this Thybulle guy? His shooting numbers are kinda disappointing and he put up huge numbers playing in a zone defense against a down year for Pac 12 schools.

Don't get it twisted he might be able to translate some of his defensive success from school to the pros but he still has work to do shooting and it isn't like he is decent at getting his own shot at the university of Washington. I just feel at 19 and maybe even 28 or 29 we could get a more well rounded player than this guy. I gotta look at more film of him to understand the hype

[cd021]

I like his college numbers defensively but other than that why is everyone so dead set on getting this Thybulle guy? His shooting numbers are kinda disappointing and he put up huge numbers playing in a zone defense against a down year for Pac 12 schools.

Don't get it twisted he might be able to translate some of his defensive success from school to the pros but he still has work to do shooting and it isn't like he is decent at getting his own shot at the university of Washington. I just feel at 19 and maybe even 28 or 29 we could get a more well rounded player than this guy. I gotta look at more film of him to understand the hype

Don't want Thybulle at 18 or 19, much rather have Doumboya- he's a much higher quality of prospect in my opinion. At 28 or 29 I would consider Thybulle but Bitadze actually looks like a really solid pick and has been consistently mocked to go to us. He's 6'11 1/2, good length, mobile, and looks like he has good touch and decent shooting mechanics.

[Drom John]

NBADraft.net: 2019 Mock Draft
Updated: 4/4/19 12:14 am


18
<strong>San Antonio</strong> San Antonio
Bol Bol
7-2
235
C
Oregon
Fr.


29
<a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2019' title='Spurs receive Raptors 2019 first round pick (top 20 protected, or 2020 second rounder)' class='mock_team_link'><strong>*San Antonio</strong></a> *San Antonio
Kevin Porter
6-5
220
SG/SF
USC
Fr.


48
<strong>San Antonio</strong> San Antonio
Chris Clemons
5-9
180
PG
Campbell
Sr.

[Drom John]

heavy.com: NBA Mock Draft 2019: 2 Rounds of Predictions
By Jonathan Adams
Updated Apr 6, 2019 at 7:01am


No. 18 Spurs PF Sekou Doumbouya, Guinea


No. 29 Spurs (via Raptors) SF Admiral Schofield, Tennessee


48. Spurs PF Jaylen Hoard, Wake Forest

[lmbebo]

NBADraft.net: 2019 Mock Draft
Updated: 4/4/19 12:14 am\

Just feel Bol Bol is going to fail. Everything I've seen is that he's too slow for today's game....

[Drom John]

Sporting News: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Knicks land Zion Williamson; Duke dominates lottery
Chris Stone Contributor @cstonehoops
Updated at 2:35 p.m. ET [6 April 2019]


[20. Spurs — Grant Williams, Forward, Tennessee

Age: 20.3 | Height: 6-7 | Weight: 241

This is probably a touch high for Williams, but the Tennessee junior fits the bill in terms of the character and basketball IQ San Antonio has traditionally valued.

The 6-7 forward is a versatile threat offensively who should shoot a bit more often from deep. He can help facilitate in dribble handoff and post actions. Defensively, his feel for the game is an big asset.


29. Spurs (via Raptors) — Bruno Fernando, Big, Maryland

Age: 20.6 | Height: 6-10 | Weight: 245

Fernando could go higher on draft night, but NBA teams have the ability to find replacement-level bigs all over the place. Still, the 20-year-old can score efficiently around the basket, has improved as a passer and is comfortable cleaning up on the defensive glass.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: NBA Draft 2019: Spotlighting Highest-Rated Upperclassmen on Expert Mock Drafts
JOE TANSEY
APRIL 6, 2019


[18. San Antonio Spurs: Bol Bol, C, Oregon


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Cameron Johnson, SF/PF, North Carolina

[CGD]

\

Just feel Bol Bol is going to fail. Everything I've seen is that he's too slow for today's game....

Completely agree. Dude seems like he marches to the beat of his own very slow drum. And that’s not a good thing. Don’t want

[Degoat]

I guess I wouldn’t be opposed to Bol Bol but I get a sense he could be the next Hasheem thabeet lol I know Bol can shoot it pretty good but ehh. Id rather the spurs select someone else

[CGD]

I guess I wouldn’t be opposed to Bol Bol but I get a sense he could be the next Hasheem thabeet lol I know Bol can shoot it pretty good but ehh. Id rather the spurs select someone else

I just don’t see the value of a 7’2 dude that can shoot from three if he’s too weak and slow to own the paint with that size. We already have a much better, albeit shorter, version in Bretans.

[pad300]

I just don’t see the value of a 7’2 dude that can shoot from three if he’s too weak and slow to own the paint with that size. We already have a much better, albeit shorter, version in Bretans.

As Spurs fans, I think we should remember a respected opponent from past years: Dirk Nowitzki. If Bol Bol is there at 19 (and I suspect he won't be), I think you have to take the chance... He really can shoot it from the perimeter. He's also a better rebounder and shot blocker than Dirk ever was, because he just ridiculously long...

What worries me about Bol Bol is his foot injury - that makes me scared in a big man. Still, unless he medically red flags with Spurs doctors, I think we should take him is he's there.

[BackHome]

What scares me is his work ethic his desire to play basketball full time and the his skinny frame and then his broken foot. I would pass on him maybe at 29 but wouldn’t dare at 18.

[duncan2150]

Bol bol would be a very nice player if he could avoid injuries. He is a really good offensive player plus he can protect the rim. The problems With him are one on one D as he is skinny and injuries but the talent is there.

[cjw]

Luxury of having two first rounders and a relatively filled out rotation is you can pick a guy who is essentially a red shirt like Okeke. Spurs don’t play rookies much anyway.

Bol is one of the few bigs worth a look given his shot. But I don’t understand these other drafts projecting the Spurs to take a big when they have Aldridge a few more years, a blossoming Poeltl and can always bring Nikola over eventually. Always draft BPA, except if it means collecting too many bigs you can’t play together.

[Atl Spur]

Luxury of having two first rounders and a relatively filled out rotation is you can pick a guy who is essentially a red shirt like Okeke. Spurs don’t play rookies much anyway.

Bol is one of the few bigs worth a look given his shot. But I don’t understand these other drafts projecting the Spurs to take a big when they have Aldridge a few more years, a blossoming Poeltl and can always bring Nikola over eventually. Always draft BPA, except if it means collecting too many bigs you can’t play together.

This

[cd021]

Luxury of having two first rounders and a relatively filled out rotation is you can pick a guy who is essentially a red shirt like Okeke. Spurs don’t play rookies much anyway.

Bol is one of the few bigs worth a look given his shot. But I don’t understand these other drafts projecting the Spurs to take a big when they have Aldridge a few more years, a blossoming Poeltl and can always bring Nikola over eventually. Always draft BPA, except if it means collecting too many bigs you can’t play together.


This

Disagree with the drafting another big point; Aldridge seems unlikely to be on the team 3 years from now, based on what he's said. He'll be 35 after next season and a FA.

He told Lillard that he would end his career in Portland and told DeRozan that the Spurs are going to be his team sooner rather than later. Bringing over Milutinov this off season makes sense in case Aldridge decides to leave.

Drafting a big with one of the picks to sure up the center spot makes sense; not too familiar with Bol but I am a fan of taking Bitidze at 28/29. Spurs already have 3 recently drafted young guards so using the other pick on a 3 or 4 works too.

[Chinook]

Luxury of having two first rounders and a relatively filled out rotation is you can pick a guy who is essentially a red shirt like Okeke. Spurs don’t play rookies much anyway.

Bol is one of the few bigs worth a look given his shot. But I don’t understand these other drafts projecting the Spurs to take a big when they have Aldridge a few more years, a blossoming Poeltl and can always bring Nikola over eventually. Always draft BPA, except if it means collecting too many bigs you can’t play together.

Aldridge may well not even be in SA next year if he wants to leave (again). Poeltl is an RFA after next season and there's no guarantee that he wouldn't be let go so the team could look for a big-name free agent. More than that, Pop seems keen to try playing two bigs again, and it's been working recently. So if LMA is going to be a PF again next year, the team has only Poeltl on the center depth chart. They could bring over Milutinov, but that's not a guarantee given that Gay could just decide to leave, forcing the Spurs to use the MLE to replace him. Yes, you can fill in that spot with min guys in today's NBA, but there's still a place for a developmental big, even with Metu. Then you add in that someone like Goga or Clarke (or Bol or Porter) might be able to play the four, and you have a perfectly good justification to go with a big man if you think that player will be good. There will be a generic wing available at 29, so there's no need to freak out and take one in the teens.

Clarke is still my guy with the Spurs pick. I think he will fall from his top-10 perch in a lot of current mocks, but I think he has a good chance to be a top-10 player the class. I really hate the Jordan Bell comparison. The extent to which Brandon is more impactful than Jordan was is insane:

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=brandon-clarke--matisse-thybulle--draymond-green--jordan-bell

It's so weird when people want Thybulle but are skeptical about Clarke when Brandon is a way better offensive player while also being a better defensive player.

[Gordy58]

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Just feel Bol Bol is going to fail. Everything I've seen is that he's too slow for today's game.... lmao wut, I’ve seen the complete opposite. He’s a big that can handle the ball, shoot the three, and a monster shot blocker, feet might be a little slow on the perimeter, but so is a lot of big men in the league. Concerns are probably due to his build, and injuries.

[palangi]

I don't know where some of you get your opinions from. But damn you are so far off. Bol bol is not slow. Is he weak? Sure. But luckily the NBA isn't a power lifting competition. Seems porzingas and his slight build has made it work.
https://youtu.be/oioWaren3_4

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Thybulle has been pushed as Spur’s flavor of the day. As Viceine pointed out that two years ago when Oregon played man Thybulle was a pedestrian defender on an Oregon team that was terrible defensively. He’s a trap and doubt he’ll go in the first round. Don’t want. Spurs have perimeter defense and if going perimeter need a SF with offense player like Cameron Johnson or Dylan Windler.

[objective]

Thybulle has been pushed as Spur’s flavor of the day. As Viceine pointed out that two years ago when Oregon played man Thybulle was a pedestrian defender on an Oregon team that was terrible defensively. He’s a trap and doubt he’ll go in the first round. Don’t want. Spurs have perimeter defense and if going perimeter need a SF with offense player like Cameron Johnson or Dylan Windler.

And Murray defensively on that Washington team with freshman Thybulle was an absolute disaster. Just trash.

Considering how things turned out with him and development of his tools, that doesn't make me apprehensive about Thybulle at all, in fact the opposite.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Aldridge may well not even be in SA next year if he wants to leave (again). Poeltl is an RFA after next season and there's no guarantee that he wouldn't be let go so the team could look for a big-name free agent. More than that, Pop seems keen to try playing two bigs again, and it's been working recently. So if LMA is going to be a PF again next year, the team has only Poeltl on the center depth chart. They could bring over Milutinov, but that's not a guarantee given that Gay could just decide to leave, forcing the Spurs to use the MLE to replace him. Yes, you can fill in that spot with min guys in today's NBA, but there's still a place for a developmental big, even with Metu. Then you add in that someone like Goga or Clarke (or Bol or Porter) might be able to play the four, and you have a perfectly good justification to go with a big man if you think that player will be good. There will be a generic wing available at 29, so there's no need to freak out and take one in the teens.

Clarke is still my guy with the Spurs pick. I think he will fall from his top-10 perch in a lot of current mocks, but I think he has a good chance to be a top-10 player the class. I really hate the Jordan Bell comparison. The extent to which Brandon is more impactful than Jordan was is insane:

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=brandon-clarke--matisse-thybulle--draymond-green--jordan-bell

It's so weird when people want Thybulle but are skeptical about Clarke when Brandon is a way better offensive player while also being a better defensive player.


If Clarke does drop to the Spurs' pick, he might well be the BPA. But it kind of amazes me that everybody has been screaming that the Spurs need a 3-and-D guy, but don't think Clarke's lack of 3P shooting is an issue. This was his best 3P season ever, and he took something like 15 3PA compared to about 150 for Thybulle. We don't even want to talk about his 3P%. He may be the guy the Spurs should take, but he's not the guy everyone has been saying they need. He'll be a 23 year old rookie. That's not a problem, except that he's spent his whole career playing PF/C who does most of his scoring around the basket. If they do draft him, it will be interesting to see how they use him.

I don't think he's a "better" defender than Thybulle, but I think he's good. And he's cat-quick plus he's a legit 6'8" tall. Sure, i
f he goes as low as you think he would be hard to turn down.

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On many boards Clarke is projected to be be picked well above the Spurs’ choice.

[duncan2150]

Clarke and thybulle have some same flaws, they are old rookies, not tall with 6-5 and 6-8. I would like thybulle at 29 but not higher.

Clarke I don’t know too much about his man on man defense or his jump shot but he has some good tools : athletism, hustle so he could be interesting.

For both I think they will be better options , players with more upside but also more risk. I agree that Clarke could be one of the more ready prospect.

[palangi]

What about a guy like jalen mcdaniels or isaiah roby.

Jalen mcdaniels 6'10"
https://youtu.be/CS0bXPNrHeU

Isaiah roby 6'8"
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

[NickiRasgo]

What's so special with Brandon Clarke? He's like an athletic Tyler Hansbrough to me. Undersize PF (6'8") and skinny (215 lbs). He's also already 22 years old. I looked for his offensive highlights and most of it are post-up, follow-up and lobs. Can't see how his game will translate sooner in the NBA. I've read that his defense is good as well but I rather have a defensive wing who can either drive or shoot.

I don't know, I maybe wrong but I'm really not high on him. It's easy to based on stats but I'm always looking how the players' game could translate in the NBA.

[Chinook]

Clarke and thybulle have some same flaws, they are old rookies, not tall with 6-5 and 6-8. I would like thybulle at 29 but not higher.

Clarke I don’t know too much about his man on man defense or his jump shot but he has some good tools : athletism, hustle so he could be interesting.

For both I think they will be better options , players with more upside but also more risk. I agree that Clarke could be one of the more ready prospect.

Nah, Thybulle isn't a good offensive player in any way while Clarke is one of the best in the nation. It's not a case where Clarke is an okay scorer who hasn't been able to expand his game. There just hasn't been a need for him to do so given how uber he is at the college level. I think it's a case like with White where you don't overthink things and just take a guy who's really good. If we were talking a lotto pick, I could see worrying about age or whatever. In the 20s, you just hope for rotation players, and Clarke should be that.

Plus Thybulle is REALLY small. He's much more in the class of Walker, White and Murray than he is the class of a small-forward. I don't see any reason to draft him if the goal is to find a defensive forward. That's not what Thybulle has been or will be. The team isn't filled with undersized, superathletic centers, nor do they have a lot of 6-8ish guys with Clarke's defensive chops. It would be nice for the combine to show Clarke as being an inch or two taller and 20 pounds heavier than the current listings. Even then, it would be encouraging to see Clarke knock down some perimeter shots during workouts. But I'd bet more on the Spurs developing that part of Clarke's game than I would on Thybulle improving enough to get minutes in this guard rotation.

[Chinook]

What about a guy like jalen mcdaniels or isaiah roby.

Jalen mcdaniels 6'10"
https://youtu.be/CS0bXPNrHeU

Isaiah roby 6'8"
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

I'm a fan of Roby at 29 or in the top of the second if the Spurs find themselves there after a trade. He seems more like a Jordan Bell clone than Clarke does. A jack of all trades guy. I just wonder if there's a good developmental path for him to become an NBA-level rotation player. I think even as is, he could eek out a career as a fringe, energy guy like Quincy Acy or Cun. But I'd be reluctant to draft him if I didn't see more in him than that.

[TD 21]

Aldridge may well not even be in SA next year if he wants to leave (again). Poeltl is an RFA after next season and there's no guarantee that he wouldn't be let go so the team could look for a big-name free agent. More than that, Pop seems keen to try playing two bigs again, and it's been working recently. So if LMA is going to be a PF again next year, the team has only Poeltl on the center depth chart. They could bring over Milutinov, but that's not a guarantee given that Gay could just decide to leave, forcing the Spurs to use the MLE to replace him. Yes, you can fill in that spot with min guys in today's NBA, but there's still a place for a developmental big, even with Metu. Then you add in that someone like Goga or Clarke (or Bol or Porter) might be able to play the four, and you have a perfectly good justification to go with a big man if you think that player will be good. There will be a generic wing available at 29, so there's no need to freak out and take one in the teens.

Clarke is still my guy with the Spurs pick. I think he will fall from his top-10 perch in a lot of current mocks, but I think he has a good chance to be a top-10 player the class. I really hate the Jordan Bell comparison. The extent to which Brandon is more impactful than Jordan was is insane:

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=brandon-clarke--matisse-thybulle--draymond-green--jordan-bell

It's so weird when people want Thybulle but are skeptical about Clarke when Brandon is a way better offensive player while also being a better defensive player.

Aldridge more than likely isn't going anywhere for at least another 2 seasons, people presume the Trail Blazers interest will be mutual and that even if it is, things will remain the same for 2+ years on both sides.

Poeltl isn't going anywhere for a while. Him being restricted is largely irrelevant as he plays the most saturated position in the league. No one is throwing the type of offer at him that would be required for the Spurs to not match.

Gay most likely isn't going anywhere either. Both sides need each other too much to think otherwise.

Milutinov, there's probably a good chance of being signed this off season. If not, finding a capable third C isn't difficult.

Even with Pop trying to shoehorn starting big as much as possible, all that means is Aldridge plays roughly the first six minutes of each half as a nominal PF. He'll still mostly play C.

Clarke will probably be able to defend big wings, but unless he develops a shot, he'll be a C on offense and with a mere 6'10'' wingspan, he'll likely need to be paired with a floor spacing/rim protecting big. I'd consider him, but a true C would be a waste at 19. None are projected as by far the best player in that range, which is what it should take, since it's the easiest position to find replacement level production.

[Chinook]

Aldridge more than likely isn't going anywhere for at least another 2 seasons, people presume the Trail Blazers interest will be mutual and that even if it is, things will remain the same for 2+ years on both sides.

It doesn't have to be Portland. All that has to happen is Aldridge has to tell Pop it's time for a trade. Pop was willing to fight it when the Spurs were contenders. I doubt he would be now.


Poeltl isn't going anywhere for a while. Him being restricted is largely irrelevant as he plays the most saturated position in the league. No one is throwing the type of offer at him that would be required for the Spurs to not match.

The Spurs are pretty meh on re-signing their RFAs. I'm sure they like Poe and intend to keep him. But I also think it'd be easy to see a scenario where he doesn't come back. He should get a decent contract, and the Spurs may well want to prioritize adding someone to the Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge trio. I also don't think Murray is a lock to come back for similar reasons. Having Milutinov or another rotation-caliber C on the team already would only reduce the chances of Jakob being a Spurs past next season.


Gay most likely isn't going anywhere either. Both sides need each other too much to think otherwise.

The Spurs need Gay, but I also think they have a limit on what they're willing to pay him next season. He's shown his limits in the Spurs' system, and he seems on the edge of even more decline. They may want him on a one-year deal, but they've structured their contracts so that they can have a window for cap space coming up, and I don't think they'll let Gay disrupt that. For Rudy's part, he has to think if winning a title is important to him. If it is, I think he'll have suitors who are stronger contenders. He's already shown he can be a valuable role-player. If the Spurs don't back up the truck for Rudy, I think it's even odds that he's in GS or Houston next year.


Milutinov, there's probably a good chance of being signed this off season. If not, finding a capable third C isn't difficult.

Even with Pop trying to shoehorn starting big as much as possible, all that means is Aldridge plays roughly the first six minutes of each half as a nominal PF. He'll still mostly play C.

I agree it's not hard to find a rotation-caliber center. But that doesn't make drafting one a bad idea. I also think Pop is hesitating on playing more two-big lineups because he lacks another legit big (Motiejunas doesn't count). While I think he would always like the ability to run units with LMA at the five for a change of pace and to match up when necessary, I also think he likes the defensive potential of two-big units. Getting a mobile big like Clarke or bigs with range like Goga or Bol help make that work. Those are guys who should be able to play with Aldridge, Poeltl, Milutinov, Gay or whomever if given some time to develop. Not every NBA team is committed to playing small. If anything, I'd say that the league has started to trend back toward sanity this season.


Clarke will probably be able to defend big wings, but unless he develops a shot, he'll be a C on offense and with a mere 6'10'' wingspan, he'll likely need to be paired with a floor spacing/rim protecting big. I'd consider him, but a true C would be a waste at 19. None are projected as by far the best player in that range, which is what it should take, since it's the easiest position to find replacement level production.

I don't see why he can't play with a big like Aldridge. He is a rim-runner/shot-blocker like Poeltl. If Jakob and LMA can play together then it's not too hard to imagine Clarke getting minutes in a similar role. It takes chemistry more than anything. Yes, the Spurs would have to be confident in Clarke's potential to shoot from distance. But if they are, then they are drafting a combo-forward, not a center. That position is not remotely easy to fill nowadays. Physically, Clarke can play that role. Skill-wise he can do it on defense. Getting the offense to catch up would make him easily BPA at 18-20. Dude was a top-five player this year. No one projected outside the top-10 can say that.

[objective]

Clarke falling to the Spurs would be stunning

[duncan2150]

Nah, Thybulle isn't a good offensive player in any way while Clarke is one of the best in the nation. It's not a case where Clarke is an okay scorer who hasn't been able to expand his game. There just hasn't been a need for him to do so given how uber he is at the college level. I think it's a case like with White where you don't overthink things and just take a guy who's really good. If we were talking a lotto pick, I could see worrying about age or whatever. In the 20s, you just hope for rotation players, and Clarke should be that.

Plus Thybulle is REALLY small. He's much more in the class of Walker, White and Murray than he is the class of a small-forward. I don't see any reason to draft him if the goal is to find a defensive forward. That's not what Thybulle has been or will be. The team isn't filled with undersized, superathletic centers, nor do they have a lot of 6-8ish guys with Clarke's defensive chops. It would be nice for the combine to show Clarke as being an inch or two taller and 20 pounds heavier than the current listings. Even then, it would be encouraging to see Clarke knock down some perimeter shots during workouts. But I'd bet more on the Spurs developing that part of Clarke's game than I would on Thybulle improving enough to get minutes in this guard rotation.

I never said thybulle is a good offensive player, I never said you can’t draft a 22 yers old guy or something like that... you don’t understand my post.

It’s just that for me they have some similarities : age, height but that’s it , so I agree with you overall.

About Clarke I’m not totally sold but it’s not like thybulle who does not worth a 19th pick for me, Clarke could but I have some concerns.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Nah, Thybulle isn't a good offensive player in any way while Clarke is one of the best in the nation. It's not a case where Clarke is an okay scorer who hasn't been able to expand his game. There just hasn't been a need for him to do so given how uber he is at the college level.


In his three years in college, Clarke shot 24 three pointers and made 6. There hasn't been a need for him to shoot them because he plays PF/C, against college kids. He won't be doing that in the NBA, because there will be other, bigger athletic players meeting him in the paint. He's going to have to function as a SF, and they need to shoot 3-pointers in today's NBA. He'll need to re-make his game AND his shot.

You've described him like the next Draymond Green. Green benefitted from having the best-shooting backcourt in NBA history, so get gets to play around the rim selectively. But even his value has gone way down because he's not making his 3-pointers.

The Spurs need 3-andD, AND they need length. Clarke can't shoot the 3 for shit. Thybulle doesn't have the length (even though he does have a greater wingspan than Clarke.) Both are good players. Neither are what the Spurs need. If they're ready to finally embrace a serious rebuild, bring him on and work him into the plan.

[TD 21]

It doesn't have to be Portland. All that has to happen is Aldridge has to tell Pop it's time for a trade. Pop was willing to fight it when the Spurs were contenders. I doubt he would be now.



The Spurs are pretty meh on re-signing their RFAs. I'm sure they like Poe and intend to keep him. But I also think it'd be easy to see a scenario where he doesn't come back. He should get a decent contract, and the Spurs may well want to prioritize adding someone to the Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge trio. I also don't think Murray is a lock to come back for similar reasons. Having Milutinov or another rotation-caliber C on the team already would only reduce the chances of Jakob being a Spurs past next season.



The Spurs need Gay, but I also think they have a limit on what they're willing to pay him next season. He's shown his limits in the Spurs' system, and he seems on the edge of even more decline. They may want him on a one-year deal, but they've structured their contracts so that they can have a window for cap space coming up, and I don't think they'll let Gay disrupt that. For Rudy's part, he has to think if winning a title is important to him. If it is, I think he'll have suitors who are stronger contenders. He's already shown he can be a valuable role-player. If the Spurs don't back up the truck for Rudy, I think it's even odds that he's in GS or Houston next year.



I agree it's not hard to find a rotation-caliber center. But that doesn't make drafting one a bad idea. I also think Pop is hesitating on playing more two-big lineups because he lacks another legit big (Motiejunas doesn't count). While I think he would always like the ability to run units with LMA at the five for a change of pace and to match up when necessary, I also think he likes the defensive potential of two-big units. Getting a mobile big like Clarke or bigs with range like Goga or Bol help make that work. Those are guys who should be able to play with Aldridge, Poeltl, Milutinov, Gay or whomever if given some time to develop. Not every NBA team is committed to playing small. If anything, I'd say that the league has started to trend back toward sanity this season.



I don't see why he can't play with a big like Aldridge. He is a rim-runner/shot-blocker like Poeltl. If Jakob and LMA can play together then it's not too hard to imagine Clarke getting minutes in a similar role. It takes chemistry more than anything. Yes, the Spurs would have to be confident in Clarke's potential to shoot from distance. But if they are, then they are drafting a combo-forward, not a center. That position is not remotely easy to fill nowadays. Physically, Clarke can play that role. Skill-wise he can do it on defense. Getting the offense to catch up would make him easily BPA at 18-20. Dude was a top-five player this year. No one projected outside the top-10 can say that.

Aldridge thinking of finishing his career as a Trail Blazer shouldn't be construed with his wanting a trade in general.

Sure, in general. In this specific instance, there's no reason to expect him to break the bank (relatively speaking, of course). There's also the PR aspect of him being a piece of the trade. Milutinov has nothing to do with Poeltl. Murray, I agree.

Cap space for what? No one of significance is coming here and since they refuse to re-build, it's safe to rule out them being a dumping ground for dead money and stocking up on picks for their trouble. Besides, Gay on something like a 2 year (maybe partial guaranteed 3rd) for something like $12M per or slightly more, should be movable if need be.

Nah, he's hesitating because two big lineups are just not feasible most of the time in today's NBA. Two bigs is the change of pace. Bol and Bitanze could almost never play with Aldridge, never mind Poeltl or Milutinov. Drafting a C prospect the caliber of the aforementioned names at 19, would absolutely be a waste.

Yeah, he might be able to work some alongside Aldridge. Defensively, Clarke's role would definitely be defending big wings. With the dearth of them, more and more teams are throwing mobile PF's on them anyway.

[exstatic]

Thybulle has been pushed as Spur’s flavor of the day. As Viceine pointed out that two years ago when Oregon played man Thybulle was a pedestrian defender on an Oregon team that was terrible defensively. He’s a trap and doubt he’ll go in the first round. Don’t want. Spurs have perimeter defense and if going perimeter need a SF with offense player like Cameron Johnson or Dylan Windler.

It might help your argument if you at least knew what school Thybulle went to...

[BackHome]

Forget Bol Bol we got Nikola and Poodle don’t need to spend a draft pick on another one. I like Louis King from Oregon he is pretty athletic true SF who can shoot the 3 ball.

[Chinook]

In his three years in college, Clarke shot 24 three pointers and made 6. There hasn't been a need for him to shoot them because he plays PF/C, against college kids. He won't be doing that in the NBA, because there will be other, bigger athletic players meeting him in the paint. He's going to have to function as a SF, and they need to shoot 3-pointers in today's NBA. He'll need to re-make his game AND his shot.

You've described him like the next Draymond Green. Green benefitted from having the best-shooting backcourt in NBA history, so get gets to play around the rim selectively. But even his value has gone way down because he's not making his 3-pointers.

The Spurs need 3-andD, AND they need length. Clarke can't shoot the 3 for shit. Thybulle doesn't have the length (even though he does have a greater wingspan than Clarke.) Both are good players. Neither are what the Spurs need. If they're ready to finally embrace a serious rebuild, bring him on and work him into the plan.

Thybulle's issue isn't length; it's size. Dude isn't much different than Danny Green coming out of school. Yeah, having a Green would totally be awesome, even just defensively, but it's not the answer to the lack of forward depth. Clarke is that. There's little doubt in my mind he could platoon on almost any four out of the gate. That's one of the main reasons why it doesn't make sense to put Clarke and Thybulle in the same boat.

The other reason is that Thybulle sucks at offense. Just because Clarke hasn't shown good outside shooting doesn't mean he is a bad offensive player. He can come in and fill most of the same gaps Poeltl already fills. He doesn't seem to have Jakob's IQ, but he has a level of athleticism to make up for it. You're concerned that his post offense and energy won't translate to the NBA. What does Thybulle have right now that even has a hope of translating? The Spurs have plenty of shooters. They don't NEED Clarke to come in as a Danny Green clone. He can start out just getting points from his energy and athleticism until he gets a shot. The Spurs shouldn't be looking at 18-20 as a 2019 rotation player anyway.

[Chinook]

Aldridge thinking of finishing his career as a Trail Blazer shouldn't be construed with his wanting a trade in general.

Sure, in general. In this specific instance, there's no reason to expect him to break the bank (relatively speaking, of course). There's also the PR aspect of him being a piece of the trade. Milutinov has nothing to do with Poeltl. Murray, I agree.

Cap space for what? No one of significance is coming here and since they refuse to re-build, it's safe to rule out them being a dumping ground for dead money and stocking up on picks for their trouble. Besides, Gay on something like a 2 year (maybe partial guaranteed 3rd) for something like $12M per or slightly more, should be movable if need be.

Nah, he's hesitating because two big lineups are just not feasible most of the time in today's NBA. Two bigs is the change of pace. Bol and Bitanze could almost never play with Aldridge, never mind Poeltl or Milutinov. Drafting a C prospect the caliber of the aforementioned names at 19, would absolutely be a waste.

Yeah, he might be able to work some alongside Aldridge. Defensively, Clarke's role would definitely be defending big wings. With the dearth of them, more and more teams are throwing mobile PF's on them anyway.

I think Aldridge should be happy in SA. For some odd reason, though, he seems to view leaving Portland as a mistake. I'm just not as certain as you are that he won't want out, though I do agree he likely will play out both years.

I don't think the Spurs will let the Leonard trade stop them from letting Poeltl walk if the money doesn't make sense. Poe is a pretty prototypical modern big, so I see him getting way more interest than someone like Brook Lopez did. It's just more of a timing issue than anything. The Spurs let go of legit rotation players in both of the previous years they used cap space. Even if they don't sink it all on a big fish, they aren't likely to return all of Bertans, Beli, Forbes, Murray, DeRozan and Poeltl in that off-season.

Again, I don't think Gay views SA as a necessary partner. He "gave up money" to go to a contender, and the Spurs don't look to be that right now. Sure, he seems to like it in SA, and he has friends on the team. But both sides had to agree to a one-year deal, and I think that lack of commitment is telling.

I know your views on the modern NBA. Pop doesn't seem to share them. He's not playing Poeltl and LMA together to change things up. He's doing it because he believes in the potential of that unit. Even though it's not hard to find a third center, it's not easy to find centers that can make a lineup with LMA work. Like Kanter may well be a good backup center next year, but if Poeltl gets hurt, he's not going to be able to start next to Aldridge. Pop COULD go small in response, but I don't think he'd want to (even though it's up in the air if Murray's return would even allow for two bigs). Getting a third center who could play with Aldridge and maybe Poeltl would be Pop's dream, and such a player isn't nearly as easy to find as the scrapheap centers. I get that you don't believe that Goga, Bol or Porter can play that sort of role. But PATFO might think differently, especially after a year of development.

[objective]

What is the point of arguing Clarke vs Thybulle when Clarke will likely be off the board anyway?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Thybulle's issue isn't length; it's size. Dude isn't much different than Danny Green coming out of school. Yeah, having a Green would totally be awesome, even just defensively, but it's not the answer to the lack of forward depth. Clarke is that. There's little doubt in my mind he could platoon on almost any four out of the gate. That's one of the main reasons why it doesn't make sense to put Clarke and Thybulle in the same boat.

The other reason is that Thybulle sucks at offense. Just because Clarke hasn't shown good outside shooting doesn't mean he is a bad offensive player. He can come in and fill most of the same gaps Poeltl already fills. He doesn't seem to have Jakob's IQ, but he has a level of athleticism to make up for it. You're concerned that his post offense and energy won't translate to the NBA. What does Thybulle have right now that even has a hope of translating? The Spurs have plenty of shooters. They don't NEED Clarke to come in as a Danny Green clone. He can start out just getting points from his energy and athleticism until he gets a shot. The Spurs shouldn't be looking at 18-20 as a 2019 rotation player anyway.


You've obviously thought about it. You really think Clarke's total lack of 3P isn't a deal breaker? It's just a stretch for me. You do know that before this season, Clarke's shooting stroke was like horror movie bad? Give him credit for really working on it and improving (some), but I just think he's a long way from tuning up to the point that he's an NBA shooter from outside the paint - much less the arc. I guess we'll see.

As for Thybulle - I liked the thought of him being a Spur for the last couple of years, well before much of anyone was talking about him. Back then, most of the reports said that they didn't even know if he would/could get drafted. I thought he was going to be a bargain late 2nd pick.
I already softened on him a lot this year, when it became clear that the Spurs have sort of a glut of 6'5" guys who are more than respectable defenders. Now that he's projected to possibly be a late 1st rounder, he really doesn't look attractive to me. I've been saying that for a while. I never even thought about putting him and Clarke in the same category.

I was pretty much all-in on Okeke, and I'd still like to see him land here and rehab. I think he's the whole package of what the Spurs really need, but his first year is pretty much out the window now. I guess he could get some time in Austin, and a number of Spurs players have done well going that route.

Right now, I think Cameron Johnson is probably a good value, for one of the Spurs' picks. If the Spurs could get him and Okeke, I'd call it a day. Except I think that Max Strus is a guy like Fred VanVleet that may go undrafted, but will make an NBA player. I don't think anyone else knows who the hell he is, but if he gets a shot I think he'll make it into someone's rotation.
I'd still like to see them bring him in for a look, even if it meant using the second round pick.

Carsen Edwards declared today. He'll be a good value pick, and I would really like to see the Spurs have one real PG on the roster. But I don't think PATFO even have a PG on their radar.

[Dejounte]

Grant Williams is another SF I think the SPURS have a chance at. He has good feel for the game.

[cd021]

Looks like Spurs, Indiana, and LAC may end up tied at 48-34, OKC possibly too. Could significantly affect the Spurs draft positioning (the tiebreakers are decided at random)

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

If he enters the draft a guy the Spurs might be able to get low in the 1st round is Mfiondu Kabengele. He is a 6'10 forward who can shoot and block shots pretty well.

[pad300]

I think that the people in this thread are mostly ignoring the internationals, and this is a mistake. The Spurs have 3 picks, and I doubt they want 3 rooks on the roster next year; thus, I expect at least one of the picks to be a stash. The Spurs generally work on a Best Player Available assessment, I don't think they put a lot of weight on position fit. Goga for example, is a C, but he 's demonstrating a lot in Euroleague, and may be available. Further, there are several internationals who might fit in that SF spot - off the top of my head: Doumboya, Sirvydis, Zoosman (and N'doye in the 2nd)...

[exstatic]

I think that the people in this thread are mostly ignoring the internationals, and this is a mistake. The Spurs have 3 picks, and I doubt they want 3 rooks on the roster next year; thus, I expect at least one of the picks to be a stash. The Spurs generally work on a Best Player Available assessment, I don't think they put a lot of weight on position fit. Goga for example, is a C, but he 's demonstrating a lot in Euroleague, and may be available. Further, there are several internationals who might fit in that SF spot - off the top of my head: Doumboya, Sirvydis, Zoosman (and N'doye in the 2nd)...

The problem with internationals is what I will refer to as the Milutinov dilemma. If they develop enough to be worthwhile to bring over, they usually cost a bunch. It seems that the shine has come off of the draft-n-stash strategy for SA. The last successful one who actually developed and came to the NBA was Bertans, and he was drafted in 2011. I'm not really factoring in the second rounder. They can be told that they need to sign a g-league contract, or a two way, or they get cut loose. Alternatively, the pick may be high enough to flip for a future pick, maybe something in 2021 when the one and done IS done? We should have enough roster space for two first rounders who will likely spend the year in Austin anyway.

[Dejounte]

Looks like Spurs, Indiana, and LAC may end up tied at 48-34, OKC possibly too. Could significantly affect the Spurs draft positioning (the tiebreakers are decided at random)

So the SPURS could end up with a worse pick? I hope they trade up. I was just watching KZ Okpala and man they should draft this kid. They need a forward who can play transition offense and can take it coast to coast. KZ can do that. He's like a faster Kyle Anderson. Would be a steal.

[cd021]

So the SPURS could end up with a worse pick? I hope they trade up. I was just watching KZ Okpala and man they should draft this kid. They need a forward who can play transition offense and can take it coast to coast. KZ can do that. He's like a faster Kyle Anderson. Would be a steal.

Almost certainly not going to be the 19th pick. If OKC wins out, the the Spurs will likely be tied with IND and LAC meaning that it is chosen at random by the league. Could be 18, 19 or 20 then, if OKC loses then it could be as worse as 21.

[cd021]

I think that the people in this thread are mostly ignoring the internationals, and this is a mistake. The Spurs have 3 picks, and I doubt they want 3 rooks on the roster next year; thus, I expect at least one of the picks to be a stash. The Spurs generally work on a Best Player Available assessment, I don't think they put a lot of weight on position fit. Goga for example, is a C, but he 's demonstrating a lot in Euroleague, and may be available. Further, there are several internationals who might fit in that SF spot - off the top of my head: Doumboya, Sirvydis, Zoosman (and N'doye in the 2nd)...

Doumboya and Goga are actually my favorite players for the Spurs to pick. But as estatic alluded , draft and stash has become increasingly less of viable.

Good teams used to save roster spots and salary but if the team leaves a player overseas for two seasons, then the player usually ends up staying for a 3rd so they won't be bound by rookie scale then the team will have to pay more- either dipping into an exception or using salary cap also having to wait three years for a first-round pick to even come over.

Draft and stashes; for the Spurs, lately, has become less popular because of Milutinov, who has already spent four seasons overseas and may end up taking half of the mid-level exception when and if he comes over next season plus he'll be going on 26.

Spurs may be out of Doumboya's range so they may end up going domestic and having him develop on the end of the bench, in Austin. Goga still makes sense at 28/29 but unless the Spurs bring him over after a season, then it may take 3 years for him to play for the Spurs.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Updated 1st-Round Predictions Before NCAA Championship
Rob Goldberg
April 6, 2019


18. San Antonio Spurs: Keldon Johnson, SG, Kentucky


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors): KZ Okpala, PF, Stanford

[ZeusWillJudge]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Updated 1st-Round Predictions Before NCAA Championship
Rob Goldberg
April 6, 2019



18. San Antonio Spurs: Keldon Johnson, SG, Kentucky


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors): KZ Okpala, PF, Stanford




Well that's new. So Okpala is going to fall to 29 now?

Besides, the Spurs really need two more 6'5"-6'6" players, so they'll need another one to go with Keldon Johnson.

I wonder if these guys actually get paid to do these mock drafts? Hell, I could put together random picks.

[duncan2150]

Doumboya and Goga are actually my favorite players for the Spurs to pick. But as estatic alluded , draft and stash has become increasingly less of viable.

Good teams used to save roster spots and salary but if the team leaves a player overseas for two seasons, then the player usually ends up staying for a 3rd so they won't be bound by rookie scale then the team will have to pay more- either dipping into an exception or using salary cap also having to wait three years for a first-round pick to even come over.

Draft and stashes; for the Spurs, lately, has become less popular because of Milutinov, who has already spent four seasons overseas and may end up taking half of the mid-level exception when and if he comes over next season plus he'll be going on 26.

Spurs may be out of Doumboya's range so they may end up going domestic and having him develop on the end of the bench, in Austin. Goga still makes sense at 28/29 but unless the Spurs bring him over after a season, then it may take 3 years for him to play for the Spurs.

both goga and doumbouya wants to come next year to the nba, I really think that goga will not be there at 29 and even at 18-20 i’m Not sure. He could be the best big in this draft.

Imo, we need another big, if milutinov is coming maybe the spurs will not draft another inside guy but passing on goga could be a mistake.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Latest Predictions for 1st-Round Prospects
Zach Buckley
April 8, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs: PJ Washington, PF/C, Kentucky


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors): Dylan Windler, SF, Belmont

[cd021]

both goga and doumbouya wants to come next year to the nba, I really think that goga will not be there at 29 and even at 18-20 i’m Not sure. He could be the best big in this draft.

Imo, we need another big, if milutinov is coming maybe the spurs will not draft another inside guy but passing on goga could be a mistake.

Goga has consistently been projected as a late first or second rounder so I have no reason to doubt that he'll be around there.
Spurs have already spent 3 firsts on guards in 2016, 2017 and 2018 don't see them using another on a guard.

With 2 picks, there is going to be some overlap. Taking a Center with Milutinov; possibly, finally, being in the fold, still makes sense. Still, expect them to take a wing at 18-21, though.

Goga and Doumboya both wanting to come over changes things , some what, given that if the Spurs took one then they'd be taking a roster spot but both are solid prospects.

[picnroll]

I like Spurs going for Windler. I think he could be a contributor sometime next year.

[duncan2150]

Goga has consistently been projected as a late first or second rounder so I have no reason to doubt that he'll be around there.
Spurs have already spent 3 firsts on guards in 2016, 2017 and 2018 don't see them using another on a guard.

With 2 picks, there is going to be some overlap. Taking a Center with Milutinov; possibly, finally, being in the fold, still makes sense. Still, expect them to take a wing at 18-21, though.

Goga andDoumboya both wanting to come over changes things , some what, given that if the Spurs took one then they'd be taking a roster spot but both are solid prospects.

i don't See one mock where bitadze is here with raptors pick ( except CBS one). I agrée with You they Will probably Target a wing but as they go with the BPA we Will See

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/UW_MBB/status/1114917750139305984

[Biggems]

A new mock after further research

1a G/F Matisse Thybulle - lockdown D, improving shooter, High IQ
1b G/F Dylan Windler - very good shooter, Windex, High IQ
2 PF Eric Paschall - versatile, High IQ, tough defender, Windex

3 mature, tough, intelligent, hard working, team-first guys who should easily buy into what Pop is selling. This draft will address our weak D and often poor rebounding.

[cd021]

i don't See one mock where bitadze is here with raptors pick ( except CBS one). I agrée with You they Will probably Target a wing but as they go with the BPA we Will See

I have only seen him as a very late first and no higher thus far. I think he'll be around at the raptors pick tbh

[pad300]

I like Spurs going for Windler. I think he could be a contributor sometime next year.

I'm not a fan. Yeah, he's a decent shooter, and has good rebounding numbers, and they call him a Guard. But in practice, he's playing PF not at G: he plays on Belmont, of their top 6 players in minutes played, there is one 6'11" C, Dylan at 6'8", and 4 guards at 6'0", 6'2", 6'4" and 6'3". It's not surprising that he's got good rebounding #'s.

[Chinook]

I have only seen him as a very late first and no higher thus far. I think he'll be around at the raptors pick tbh

I agree with Dunc that Goga has moved up to the low-20s. He could well be around at 29 given the general value of centers and the potential for a run on wings after the lottery. He rose a lot in the mocks I had followed this year. I think more than a lot of players, Goga having a good combine with affect his status. He needs to show what he can do against NBA athletes and in an NBA-style competition. If he doesn't show off special talent, then his stock will fall behind guys to fit more teams' needs. If he can show potential as a four, then he may go a lot higher.

[r0drig0lac]

I want Doumbouya as first choice

[exstatic]

I want Doumbouya as first choice

He'll likely be gone.

[Fusternino]

Duombouya's stock has fallen a lot. Low counting stats. I still think our pick + Forbes gets it done to move to 13-16.

[Drom John]

Sports Illustrated: 2019 NBA Mock Draft 6.0: Projecting All 60 Picks After March Madness
By Jeremy Woo April 09, 2019


20.San Antonio Spurs Spurs: Cam Johnson, SF, North Carolina

Height: 6’8" | Weight: 210 | Senior

The unflashy but dangerous Johnson could help San Antonio immediately as a specialist, and they might have a need for a bigger wing like him if Rudy Gay departs. He had an outstanding senior year for the Tar Heels after getting fully healthy, and although he’s already 23, he should be able to help a team next season. Johnson doesn’t come with a crazy ceiling, but he might be an above-average specialist. He’ll need to be in order to mask his issues defensively.


29.San Antonio Spurs Spurs (via Raptors): Neemias Queta, C, Utah State

Height: 6’11" | Weight: 240 | Freshman

Queta has yet to declare for the draft, but if he does, there will likely be interest from teams drafting in the late first round thanks to his potential as a rim protector. He’s raw, but the Portuguese import was extremely impactful as a true freshman and is a natural interior defender with real length to contest shots. Another season at Utah State could help, but he’d be a good flier for someone right now. The Spurs, of course, are no stranger to international talent.


48. Spurs: Dedric Lawson, PF, Kansas

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Predicting 1st-Round Results Post-NCAA Tournament
Jonathan Wasserman
April 9, 2019


20. San Antonio: Grant Williams (Tennessee, PF, Junior)

A 6'7", 236-pound "big man" without any explosion, Williams doesn't scream upside. But he shouldn't need to at No. 20 overall, where the Spurs can feel good about adding a tough, high-IQ role player. He has shown the ability to create significant separation as a scorer around the key, while his passing, rebounding and defense jump out as translatable, ancillary strengths.


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors): Matisse Thybulle (Washington, SG/SF, Senior)

Thybulle's 3.5 steals and 2.2 blocks per game pop off the scouting report, and the film shows instincts and anticipation that back up the stats. He's one of the draft's most intriguing defensive prospects who's shooting (career 35.8 percent 3PT) could make or break his NBA potential. The gamble is worth it for San Antonio this late.

[Drom John]

The Big Lead: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Zion Williamson Goes To The Knicks and Ja Morant Lands With The Suns
By: Ryan Phillips | 2 hours ago [AKA 9 April 2019]


20. San Antonio Spurs: Goga Bitadze, C, Georgia

Goga Bitadze is 6’11” and 251 pounds but can step out on the floor and hit shots. He can handle the ball a bit and pass pretty well for a center. He’s not fleet of foot or likely to ever be a great on-ball defender away from the paint, but he can protect the rim.

The Spurs need some depth on the interior and Bitadze has some upside as well.


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto): Eric Paschall, F, Villanova

Eric Paschall is 6’8″ and a massive 260 pounds. He’s a load down low but he’s athletic and versatile. He’s got a good jumper, hitting 34.8 percent from 3-point range and 74.6 percent from the free throw line. He can defend and was a key piece of Villanova’s title team in 2018.

He’s the kind of tough, smart player Gregg Popovich loves.

[Drom John]

Tennessean: 2019 NBA Mock Draft, post-national championship edition
Nicklaus Gray, Nashville Tennessean Published 6:00 a.m. CT April 9, 2019 | Updated 10:05 a.m. CT April 9, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs — P.J. Washington, Forward, Kentucky

Imagine Washington leading the Spurs' second unit as an inside-out option, then playing alongside LaMarcus Aldridge at times. Much like others around this part of the draft, if his shooting improves a tick, he can be really good.


29. San Antonio Spurs — Tyler Herro, Guard, Kentucky

Kentucky's third first-round pick of this mock is the best shooter of the bunch. He works hard defensively, but will give up size to nearly every wing in the NBA. But drafting Herro is drafting his jump shot.

[Drom John]

NJ.com: Latest NBA Mock Draft 2019: Zion Williamson to Knicks? Ja Morant or RJ Barrett at No. 2? Sixers get ACC wing?
By Zack Rosenblatt | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com | Posted April 09, 2019 at 05:45 AM | Updated April 09, 2019 at 07:22 AM



20. San Antonio Spurs: F Cameron Johnson, North Carolina

Johnson is one of the more intriguing prospects in the draft with good size (6-9, 210) and a smooth shooting stroke (45.7 percent from three). The Spurs have to replace Rudy Gay, too.


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors): C Goga Bitadze, Republic of Georgia

The Spurs are always liable to take a chance on a long-term project, especially international, and Bitadze fits the bill.

[Drom John]

Def Pen: 2019 NBA Mock Draft 4.0: Post-NCAA Tournament Edition
April 9, 201910 minute read Gabe Esquivel


20. San Antonio Spurs
Goga Bitadze: Big- Mega Bemax

Status: Undeclared

The Spurs and a skilled foreign prospect always seem like a great pair. Goga Bitadze is a 6-foot-11 big man who has flashed some shooting touch but makes plays on both ends with high-level feel. He may not be the most switchable big man that NBA teams crave, but he shouldn’t be a total liability in that regard, and possesses enough length and IQ to partially compensate for some of the athletic shortcomings.


29. San Antonio Spurs (Via Toronto Raptors)
KZ Okpala: Big- Stanford

Status: Undeclared

KZ Okpala offers a modern take on the power forward position, with the ability to shoot the ball from deep as well as put it on the floor. Okpala will need to refine his ball skills as well as overall defensive awareness.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Duombouya's stock has fallen a lot. Low counting stats. I still think our pick + Forbes gets it done to move to 13-16.

If we do pick 18-20, I wonder by trading that pick and Forbes, how many spots that lets us move up? I guess it depends on the trading partner and their opinion of Forbes. I agree with you, I think it only moves us up 4-5 spots max. I'm fine with that.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Hey Drom John,
Thanks for all the updates and great work! Much appreciated!:toast

[ZeusWillJudge]

Sports Illustrated: 2019 NBA Mock Draft 6.0: Projecting All 60 Picks After March Madness
By Jeremy Woo April 09, 2019



20.San Antonio Spurs Spurs: Cam Johnson, SF, North Carolina

Height: 6’8" | Weight: 210 | Senior





29.San Antonio Spurs Spurs (via Raptors): Neemias Queta, C, Utah State

Height: 6’11" | Weight: 240 | Freshman



48. Spurs: Dedric Lawson, PF, Kansas




I hope SI is right. I said above, I think Cam Johnson is their guy with their first pick now. I don't like Queta, but SI doesn't have Okeke in the first round. And Dedric Lawson just declared - he would be one hell of a good use of that second round pick if he makes it that far.

Yeah, gimme Cam Johnson, Okeke, and Dedric Lawson and I'd call it a good draft.

[duncan2150]

Would be interesting to see where our pick ends, we could be something like 19 to 22 ( Boston will play only reserves guys tonight except brown , Indiana could lost their last game too and maybe we will be above okc, imo we will finish 6th or 7th)

[sasaint]

I hope SI is right. I said above, I think Cam Johnson is their guy with their first pick now. I don't like Queta, but SI doesn't have Okeke in the first round. And Dedric Lawson just declared - he would be one hell of a good use of that second round pick if he makes it that far.

Yeah, gimme Cam Johnson, Okeke, and Dedric Lawson and I'd call it a good draft.

:tu I would call that a dream draft. But in a league that is evolving into teams playing 3-4 6’6”-6’8” multi-position players it would be just like Pop to build a roster of 6’3”-6’5” guys complemented by 2 or 3 6’11” traditional 5s.

[MoSpur02]

https://twitter.com/UW_MBB/status/1114917750139305984



This

[TD 21]

I think Aldridge should be happy in SA. For some odd reason, though, he seems to view leaving Portland as a mistake. I'm just not as certain as you are that he won't want out, though I do agree he likely will play out both years.

I don't think the Spurs will let the Leonard trade stop them from letting Poeltl walk if the money doesn't make sense. Poe is a pretty prototypical modern big, so I see him getting way more interest than someone like Brook Lopez did. It's just more of a timing issue than anything. The Spurs let go of legit rotation players in both of the previous years they used cap space. Even if they don't sink it all on a big fish, they aren't likely to return all of Bertans, Beli, Forbes, Murray, DeRozan and Poeltl in that off-season.

Again, I don't think Gay views SA as a necessary partner. He "gave up money" to go to a contender, and the Spurs don't look to be that right now. Sure, he seems to like it in SA, and he has friends on the team. But both sides had to agree to a one-year deal, and I think that lack of commitment is telling.

I know your views on the modern NBA. Pop doesn't seem to share them. He's not playing Poeltl and LMA together to change things up. He's doing it because he believes in the potential of that unit. Even though it's not hard to find a third center, it's not easy to find centers that can make a lineup with LMA work. Like Kanter may well be a good backup center next year, but if Poeltl gets hurt, he's not going to be able to start next to Aldridge. Pop COULD go small in response, but I don't think he'd want to (even though it's up in the air if Murray's return would even allow for two bigs). Getting a third center who could play with Aldridge and maybe Poeltl would be Pop's dream, and such a player isn't nearly as easy to find as the scrapheap centers. I get that you don't believe that Goga, Bol or Porter can play that sort of role. But PATFO might think differently, especially after a year of development.

Who needs a center, has significant cap space and will prioritize it on a restricted (which means overpaying), role playing one?

The only one who matterd to them like Poeltl will, wasn't going to be tenable on the current roster.

At least one of Belinelli and Forbes are definitely gone after next season. Poeltl and Bertans will be prioritized. DeRozan is probably more likely to re-sign than not, but that'll be tied to Aldridge's future + the development of the 3 young guards.

He wanted to be on a stable, drama free, playoff team, that had a chance of going on a run. There was only 1-2 contenders (you can debate the Rockets; I'd argue they weren't).

I don't. I think it was unclear how the team would look at the time and what he was worth going forward. Both of those things have been cleared up.

Yet he toggles between playing strictly 1 big lineups or 2 big lineups for roughly 12 mpg, depending on the match-up. That's pushing it as is. Any more is untenable and they know it, even if they don't like it.

[Mr. Body]

If we do pick 18-20, I wonder by trading that pick and Forbes, how many spots that lets us move up? I guess it depends on the trading partner and their opinion of Forbes. I agree with you, I think it only moves us up 4-5 spots max. I'm fine with that.

You think a passable bench guy who may be out of the league soon will move a team up slots in the draft?

[Mr. Body]

Tennessean: 2019 NBA Mock Draft, post-national championship edition
Nicklaus Gray, Nashville Tennessean Published 6:00 a.m. CT April 9, 2019 | Updated 10:05 a.m. CT April 9, 2019

The Spurs are NEVER going to draft two players from Kentucky. I'd be surprised if they draft even one.

[timvp]

Boston tried to tank tonight but they still won. That's good news because it means the worst the Spurs pick can be now is 21. Current range is 18 to 21.

[R. DeMurre]

Boston tried to tank tonight but they still won. That's good news because it means the worst the Spurs pick can be now is 21. Current range is 18 to 21.

:tu

[Dejounte]

The only way we can get 18 is if we lose the next game and become 8th seed right?

[timvp]

Raptors and Warriors both won. If Warriors can win their final game (@MEM), then a coin flip will decide whether the Spurs get 28 or 29.

I'd imagine the Grizzlies would be the favorites though. The Warriors will be on a back-to-back, will have nothing to play for and Kerr will be extra paranoid because Steph Curry got hurt tonight.

[timvp]

The only way we can get 18 is if we lose the next game and become 8th seed right?

The Spurs could get 18 if they win as long as the Pacers and Clippers win their final game and OKC wins at least one of their two games. At that point, it'd come down to coin flips to decide at least 18-20.

[keithington1]

Pick 18 and 28 would be dream come true

[DAF86]

Pick 18 and 28 would be dream come true

No, because pick 18 would mean we face the Warriors in the first round of the playoffs.

[cd021]

No, because pick 18 would mean we face the Warriors in the first round of the playoffs.

Not necessarily. Spurs could be in a three or four way tie in terms of record with the draft order of the teams chosen at random.

[Russ]

Not necessarily. Spurs could be in a three or four way tie in terms of record with the draft order of the teams chosen at random.

That's the interesting thing -- playoff position is determine by tiebreakers but draft order is determined at random.

A team can have the best (or worst) of all worlds at the same time.

[Drom John]

Of the five U of Kentucky Spurs players, none were drafted by the Spurs.

[Drom John]

FantasyPros:
2019 NBA Mock Draft: Entire Draft (1.0)
by Zachary Hanshew | ZaktheMonster | Featured Writer
Apr 9, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs: Bol Bol (C – Oregon) – The big man from Oregon is a very interesting prospect at center. He’s tall at 7’2, but his 235-lb. frame makes him a little too slender and lanky to be a consistent presence under the basket playing against much bigger NBA centers. The good news is that he can be a stretch-five with his 52.0 percent three-point shooting.


29. San Antonio Spurs: Talen Horton-Tucker (SG – Iowa State) Horton-Tucker is a guard with a solid frame and some strength to him. He’s an elite scorer given his ability to make a variety of shots all over the floor. He has impressive ball-handling skills and shoots well off the dribble. THT has an excellent step-back shot that’s tough to defend.


[2nd Round]18. San Antonio Spurs: Jordan Nwora (SF/PF – Louisville) – Nwora has a natural ability to get to the basket using his quick first step, and he finishes strong even with contact. He’s a respectable three-point shooter and he can crash the glass using his huge leaping and long frame. Nwora is a willing defender and will fit well with the Jazz.

[Drom John]

Basketball Insiders:
Mock Drafts
NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft – 4/9/19

With the NCAA Tournament officially in the books, a wave of early entry candidates has already declared for the 2019 NBA Draft, with more expected in the coming days. Steve Kyler takes another look at the upcoming draft with his latest 60-pick mock.
Steve Kyler



20

Goga Bitadze
San Antonio Spurs

Mega BemaxInternational
Age: 19
Height: 6' 11
Position: C
Weight: 250




29

PJ Washington
San Antonio Spurs

KentuckySophomore
Age: 20
Height: 6' 8
Position: PF
Weight: 235




48

Brian Bowen
San Antonio Spurs

Sydney Kings International
Age: 20
Height: 6' 7
Position: SF
Weight: 200

[SpurPadre]

Drafting Bol Bol and Thybulle would be the best-case scenario for us, tbh.

[cd021]

That's the interesting thing -- playoff position is determine by tiebreakers but draft order is determined at random.

A team can have the best (or worst) of all worlds at the same time.

True, though, It's weird that the NBA doesn't simply use head to heads records to determine 2 team tie breaker's for picks but it could be useful for us. If GSW wins then we will have a 50/50 shot at the 28th pick

Then again, Indy is resting several key players against ATL so they would have a worse record than the Spurs, Clippers and Thunder assuming that all three win. In which case the random determination would be used to figure out who gets 19, 20 and 21.

[timvp]

Final day of the regular season update:

San Antonio's own first round pick can be anywhere from 18 to 21. If the Spurs beat the Mavs, they also need the Pacers to beat the Hawks and the Clippers to beat the Jazz in order to keep hope alive for that 18th pick. The Pacers aren't playing for anything and they'll probably be resting a few players so the Hawks are actually 4.5-point favorites. The Clippers could move up in the standings and avoid the Warriors and the Jazz aren't playing for anything, so the Clippers are favored by 8 points.

If OKC beats the Bucks, the Spurs would be guaranteed no worse than the 20th pick. OKC is playing to avoid the Warriors and the Bucks will be resting at least Giannis and Brook Lopez so the Thunder are favored to win in Milwaukee by 4.5 points.

As for the first round pick the Spurs will get from the Raptors, the Spurs need the Warriors to beat the Grizzlies in Memphis to have a 50/50 shot at getting the 28th pick. Otherwise, if the Warriors lose, the Spurs will get the 29th pick. The Warriors will likely be in full-on tank mode (don't have anything to play for, Kerr extra paranoid after Curry got hurt in their last game [Curry, Green, Cousins already listed as out; Durant, Thompson questionable]) so I'd imagine they probably lose even though Vegas currently has them as a 4-point favorite.

Their second round pick will land somewhere between 48 and 51 (it'll depend on what happens with their first round pick).

[Mugen]

Let's say you package the two first rounders along with Bryn (or Beli), how high do you think they could move up?

Maybe to 10th or 11th? Hunter from UVA looked like a pretty damn good prospect to me and I could see him slipping because of his age....

[exstatic]

Let's say you package the two first rounders along with Bryn (or Beli), how high do you think they could move up?

Maybe to 10th or 11th? Hunter from UVA looked like a pretty damn good prospect to me and I could see him slipping because of his age....

If you packaged a nearly second round pick with a late teens or early 20s pick, plus a player that you no longer want (by definition: You're trading them), you MIGHT just squeek into the late lottery. Top 10 is a pipe dream.

[Gordy58]

Best player available should be the mentality no matter what when we draft. I could see potential star players like Kevin Porter or Bol Bol slipping. I would even say Sekou and maybe Goga May have some kind of star to elite role player potential as well.

[cd021]

Drafting Bol Bol and Thybulle would be the best-case scenario for us, tbh.

I view Bitizde as an equal big prospect as Bol at this point and probably a safer bet to be an impact player though Bol has a high ceiling. I'd still take Doumboya over both, I think.

Thybulle as the 28th pick is a solid pick. He has better shooting numbers than I expected (36% on 532 career 3's and 78% on FTs)

[SpurPadre]

Best player available should be the mentality no matter what when we draft. I could see potential star players like Kevin Porter or Bol Bol slipping. I would even say Sekou and maybe Goga May have some kind of star to elite role player potential as well.

No, we should not draft another fucking PG. I would love to get Thybulle if he falls to us at pick 29, though.

[SpurPadre]

I view Bitizde as an equal big prospect as Bol at this point and probably a safer bet to be an impact player though Bol has a high ceiling. I'd still take Doumboya over both, I think.

Thybulle as the 28th pick is a solid pick. He has better shooting numbers than I expected (36% on 532 career 3's and 78% on FTs)

Thybulle can be our next Bowen, tbh.

[BackHome]

Porter has torn his knee up now twice don’t want any part of him. As far as Bol the main question for him has been does he have the desire to train and be a pro basketball player. So you add to that he know has a broken foot and weighs about 195 pds not No But Hell No.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Let's say you package the two first rounders along with Bryn (or Beli), how high do you think they could move up?

Maybe to 10th or 11th? Hunter from UVA looked like a pretty damn good prospect to me and I could see him slipping because of his age....


Back when it looked like Hunter was more under the radar, he was the guy I was looking for. That's a high price to pay, but I wouldn't cry if that's who they get even if they have to do that deal. I could possibly see Atlanta trading their 9 pick for that package, since they also have the 5th pick and the draft is considered pretty top-heavy. They might consider a two-for-one deal, along with Forbes' 3P shooting. If PATFO could convince them to take Belli instead, they would have earned their paychecks.

[SpurPadre]

Porter has torn his knee up now twice don’t want any part of him. As far as Bol the main question for him has been does he have the desire to train and be a pro basketball player. So you add to that he know has a broken foot and weighs about 195 pds not No But Hell No.

It's kinda hard to question his desire when he hasn't played since December ONLY due to injury. Also, he weighs 235 which is more than enough for bigs in today's NBA. There is legitimate concern about his durability and health but if he falls to us, picking him wouldn't be the worst move in the world for a guy who has lottery talent.

[ZeusWillJudge]

No, we should not draft another fucking PG. I would love to get Thybulle if he falls to us at pick 29, though.

LMAO. We don't have any fucking PG's.

"Point guards? We don't need no steenking point guards.?

[SpurPadre]

LMAO. We don't have any fucking PG's.

"Point guards? We don't need no steenking point guards.?

Murray and White will play that role whether you like it or not as neither are two guards, either.

[cd021]

LMAO. We don't have any fucking PG's.

"Point guards? We don't need no Steenking point guards.?
White is pretty clearly a PG, not sure why you think otherwise. With Murray back, he may end up coming off bench with Murray and DeRozan sharing playmaking responsibilities.

PG and SG seem like to two most stocked positions on the team. SF, PF, and C, not so much, going forward.

[cd021]

It's kinda hard to question his desire when he hasn't played since December ONLY due to injury. Also, he weighs 235 which is more than enough for bigs in today's NBA. There is legitimate concern about his durability and health but if he falls to us, picking him wouldn't be the worst move in the world for a guy who has lottery talent.

235 is rather thin for a player who is 7'2 but Bol is undeniably skilled offensively and looks like he has deep range. On a couple of highlights, he is taking and making 3's well behind the line with no hesitation. He is super young (doesn't turn 20 until next season) but his body will need to be worked on significantly for him to last.

[SpurPadre]

235 is rather thin for a player who is 7'2 but Bol is undeniably skilled offensively and looks like he has deep range. On a couple of highlights, he is taking and making 3's well behind the line with no hesitation. He is super young (doesn't turn 20 until next season) but his body will need to be worked on significantly for him to last.

Da Admiral was 235 pounds back when Centers were Centers, tbh.

[buckeyespur]

My draft picks


Position

Name

Height



SF /PF

ERIC PASCHALL

6.9



SG

AUBREY DAWKINS

6.6



SG / SF

IGNAS BRAZDEIKIS

6.7



SG

ROMEO LANGFORD

6.6



SG / SF

KEVIN PORTER

6.5



SF / PF

CHUMA OKEKE

6.8



SG / SF

MATISSE THYBULLR

6.6



PF / C

CHARLES BASSEY

6.11



PG

JAYLEN HANDS

6.3



PG

TRE JONES

6.1

[NASpurs]

Final day of the regular season update:

San Antonio's own first round pick can be anywhere from 18 to 21. If the Spurs beat the Mavs, they also need the Pacers to beat the Hawks and the Clippers to beat the Jazz in order to keep hope alive for that 18th pick. The Pacers aren't playing for anything and they'll probably be resting a few players so the Hawks are actually 4.5-point favorites. The Clippers could move up in the standings and avoid the Warriors and the Jazz aren't playing for anything, so the Clippers are favored by 8 points.

If OKC beats the Bucks, the Spurs would be guaranteed no worse than the 20th pick. OKC is playing to avoid the Warriors and the Bucks will be resting at least Giannis and Brook Lopez so the Thunder are favored to win in Milwaukee by 4.5 points.

As for the first round pick the Spurs will get from the Raptors, the Spurs need the Warriors to beat the Grizzlies in Memphis to have a 50/50 shot at getting the 28th pick. Otherwise, if the Warriors lose, the Spurs will get the 29th pick. The Warriors will likely be in full-on tank mode (don't have anything to play for, Kerr extra paranoid after Curry got hurt in their last game [Curry, Green, Cousins already listed as out; Durant, Thompson questionable]) so I'd imagine they probably lose even though Vegas currently has them as a 4-point favorite.

Their second round pick will land somewhere between 48 and 51 (it'll depend on what happens with their first round pick).

Pick 18-21 watch:
Pacers up 27-23 on the Hawks
Jazz/Clips game is later

Pick #28
Warriors down 36-30 to the Grizz (Justin Holiday is going off for the Grizz)

[ZeusWillJudge]

Murray and White will play that role whether you like it or not as neither are two guards, either.


So at least you admit that they aren't PG's. We just disagree on whether keeping the offense flowing is important.

[NASpurs]

Pacers up 35-28 / Hawks
Thunder up 44-41 / Bucks

Grizz up 53 - 46 / Warriors

[NASpurs]

Pacers up 55 - 45
Thunder up 57 - 49

Grizz up 73 - 63 (in the second quarter :lol)

[ZeusWillJudge]

Bol Bol will be perfect if the team is ever sold to Disney.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRW-GlXOjc29_qh5d20wYkC_aW4yPEmnIgZ91d_q_4Uxok1Pg8x
https://t2.rbxcdn.com/820fece25cc76806bee7bcc0472ab618

[NASpurs]

Hawks up 59 - 58 / Pacers smh
Thunder up 68 - 58 / Bucks

Grizz up 86 - 68 on the Ws at halftime :rollin

[NASpurs]

Yeah we got that 29th pick locked up now. Fucking Ws. :lol

Losing by 30 to the Grizz in the 3rd.

[timvp]

Welp, looks like the pick from the Raptors will be 29. That, coincidentally, is how many points the Grizzlies are up on the Warriors as I type this, tbh.

[objective]

Just like last summer, I Would have rather had Kawhi sit out the year and roll with Danny Green instead of being locked in with DeRozan and Poeltl plus weak pick 29 in a weak draft

[slick'81]

So probably 20/29?

[NASpurs]

Pacers up 84-78
Thunder up 98-89

[NASpurs]

Pacers up 117 - 106
Thunder up 127 - 115

:tu

[NASpurs]

Thunder won.

Pacers up 121 - 116 with 6 minutes left. Don't fuck this up Pacers.

[NASpurs]

timvp, so the Clippers are locked in at the 18th pick right?

So the Spurs are just waiting for the Pacers game to see whether they get the 19th or 20th?

[NASpurs]

Hawks up 127 - 126 on the Pacers with 3 minutes to go. :lol

[timvp]

timvp, so the Clippers are locked in at the 18th pick right?

So the Spurs are just waiting for the Pacers game to see whether they get the 19th or 20th?

If Clippers win, they'll be tied with the Spurs record-wise so there'd be a drawing to determine the tiebreaker for all the 48-34 teams. (Playoff tiebreakers don't factor into draft tiebreakers.)

[NASpurs]

If Clippers win, they'll be tied with the Spurs record-wise so there'd be a drawing to determine the tiebreaker for all the 48-34 teams. (Playoff tiebreakers don't factor into draft tiebreakers.)

Ohhhhhhhh gotcha. Didn't know that, thanks :tu

Pacers up 132-131 with 29 secs

Same score, now 3.6 secs left with the Hawks having one last shot to win the game. Don't screw this up Pacers!

[NASpurs]

Hawks made a 3 :rollin fuck!

134 - 132 with the Pacers calling a timeout having 1 sec left in the game.

[SpurSpike]

Prince....

[Mugen]

:lol

[NASpurs]

Game, Hawks win. The dream of the 18th pick is no more.

It'll be the 19th or 20th pick (with a drawing for the 19th pick if the Clippers were to win later).

[NASpurs]

Wait wtf, Pacers win?!?!?! ESPN lied to me earlier. :lol

The 18th pick dream is still alive and well boys! Just need the Clips to win!

[timvp]

:lol The final two days of this season has been 10/10 entertainment value.

[Degoat]

Wait wtf, Pacers win?!?!?! ESPN lied to me earlier. :lol

NBA app said that to lol so the pacers won!?!

[ZeusWillJudge]

NBA app said that to lol so the pacers won!?!

LMAO. A 3 shot foul with no time left, and he made all 3 to give us one higher pick.

[Robz4000]

:lol The final two days of this season has been 10/10 entertainment value.

Pretty crazy considering how shit this season has been overall.

[HarlemHeat37]

Wait wtf, Pacers win?!?!?! ESPN lied to me earlier. :lol

The 18th pick dream is still alive and well boys! Just need the Clips to win!

Clippers have nothing to play for now that they clinched 8th:lol but Utah is sitting everybody but Ingles and Crowder..tough..

[NASpurs]

NBA app said that to lol so the pacers won!?!

Yeah! Some dude got fouled shooting a 3 according to the play by play and sank all of them. :lol

[Mugen]

:lmao holy fuck phone said the Hawks had won

[timvp]

Picks 18-20 still in play for the Spurs. If Clippers lose, a coin flip would determine whether the Spurs get 19 or 20.

[ZeusWillJudge]

:lmao holy fuck phone said the Hawks had won


Happened to me with that Auburn-Virginia game in the Final Four. The exact same thing - a 3 shot foul with no time left. I looked later and it said Virginia had won, and I thought WTF.

[DAF86]

Picks 18-20 still in play for the Spurs. If Clippers lose, a coin flip would determine whether the Spurs get 19 or 20.

Go Clippers.

[timvp]

Jazz look to be in super tank mode. Clippers look to be trying. Good news for the ol' draft pick :tu

[ace3g]

Wait wtf, Pacers win?!?!?! ESPN lied to me earlier. :lol

The 18th pick dream is still alive and well boys! Just need the Clips to win!

Wow - after Prince made 3 - I closed gamecast, lol

[Gandalf]

Do the Clippers have the tie-breaker with us? And does that relate just to playoff seeding (i.e. they'd still do a coin flip for the draft pick)?

[timvp]

Do the Clippers have the tie-breaker with us? And does that relate just to playoff seeding (i.e. they'd still do a coin flip for the draft pick)?

Spurs have playoff tiebreaker over Clippers. Draft tiebreaker is always a coin flip or a drawing if more than two teams are tied. Playoff tiebreaker and draft tiebreaker are completely separate.

[Gandalf]

Spurs have playoff tiebreaker over Clippers. Draft tiebreaker is always a coin flip or a drawing if more than two teams are tied. Playoff tiebreaker and draft tiebreaker are completely separate.

Ah, thanks.

[timvp]

Clippers and Jazz looks like it'll go down to the wire...

[NASpurs]

The basketball Gods are taking a shit on us.

[joeyjfive]

Yup and looks like Denver could lose.

[joeyjfive]

Yup and looks like Denver could lose.

Damn nvm I took a shower and Denver came back.

[NickiRasgo]

T'Wolves and refs fucked the Warriors last time. Could have been a 28th pick.

[Kurik]

The basketball Gods are taking a shit on us.

Golden shit.

[NickiRasgo]

That free throws to take the game to OT. :toast

[timvp]

After tonight's game, the Spurs will have the 18th, 19th or 20th pick (random drawing will decide), the 29th pick and either the 48th, 49th or 50th (inverse of the first random drawing will decide).

[Degoat]

So spurs, pacers, and clippers will have a coin flip or drawing for picks 18,19, and 20?

[Mr. Body]

So spurs, pacers, and clippers will have a coin flip or drawing for picks 18,19, and 20?

Three sided coin, yeah.

[timvp]

So spurs, pacers, and clippers will have a coin flip or drawing for picks 18,19, and 20?

Yes. Then 20th gets 48th in the second round, 19 gets 48 and 18 gets 50.

[Dejounte]

Here's hoping we get18th...

[Drom John]

Heavy.com
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NBA Mock Draft 2019: Order Updated for Lottery
By Jonathan Adams
Updated Apr 11, 2019 at 10:57am


No. 20 Spurs G Tyler Herro, Kentucky


No. 29 Spurs (via Raptors) SF Admiral Schofield, Tennessee

[Degoat]

I Definitely would like the spurs to get the 18th pick but 19th or the 20th pick isn’t to bad either

[exstatic]

Porter has torn his knee up now twice don’t want any part of him. As far as Bol the main question for him has been does he have the desire to train and be a pro basketball player. So you add to that he know has a broken foot and weighs about 195 pds not No But Hell No.

Davis tore the same ACL twice. It's not a show stopper.

[lmbebo]

Davis tore the same ACL twice. It's not a show stopper.


Think he tore it after drafting. Spurs have drafted with medical issues (Walker with meniscal tear, Blair, ACL tears). I guess its up to the medical staff and risk.

Not sure Spurs would put garunteed money on a prospect with known or ongoing acl issues unless the upside is substantial.

[ceperez]

Think he tore it after drafting. Spurs have drafted with medical issues (Walker with meniscal tear, Blair, ACL tears). I guess its up to the medical staff and risk.

Not sure Spurs would put garunteed money on a prospect with known or ongoing acl issues unless the upside is substantial.

Spurs have a habit of ignoring the medical report and going for upside.

[lmbebo]

Spurs have a habit of ignoring the medical report and going for upside.


I don't think they ignore it at all. I just don't think they get scared of it the same way other front offices do when they have a shorter window to make changes.

[exstatic]

Think he tore it after drafting. Spurs have drafted with medical issues (Walker with meniscal tear, Blair, ACL tears). I guess its up to the medical staff and risk.

Not sure Spurs would put garunteed money on a prospect with known or ongoing acl issues unless the upside is substantial.

The point is not when it happened, but that it seems to have had no long term ill effect.

I'd actually rather deal with a ligament tear with no associated meniscus issues, than a meniscus tear. The meniscus heals quicker, but the clock has started on when the knee goes bone on bone.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Davis tore the same ACL twice. It's not a show stopper.


You have the luxury of knowing how Davis' rehab came out. You picked one example where you know that it worked out okay. It's not a question of whether it's possible to come back 100% after an ACL tear. It's a question of risk. If Anthony Davis had missed a chunk of his one year in college due to an ACL tear, and then had second tear right before the draft?

BTW - you didn't mention that Porter's whole family seems to have injury problems. His oldest brother had FIVE ACL tears, and is medically retired. His sister had a bunch of knee surgeries and is medically retired. And Michael had two back surgeries, and only played 3 games in college. So are some people really accident prone? Ask the Pelicans. Anthony Davis has had 30+ injuries in his 7 years in the league.

Pass on Jontay Porter.

[exstatic]

You have the luxury of knowing how Davis' rehab came out. You picked one example where you know that it worked out okay. It's not a question of whether it's possible to come back 100% after an ACL tear. It's a question of risk. If Anthony Davis had missed a chunk of his one year in college due to an ACL tear, and then had second tear right before the draft?

BTW - you didn't mention that Porter's whole family seems to have injury problems. His oldest brother had FIVE ACL tears, and is medically retired. His sister had a bunch of knee surgeries and is medically retired. And Michael had two back surgeries, and only played 3 games in college. So are some people really accident prone? Ask the Pelicans. Anthony Davis has had 30+ injuries in his 7 years in the league.

Pass on Jontay Porter.

I don't think he's that great of a player anyway, just saying that in a vacuum, or from a less cursed family, maybe you don't let that stop you from drafting someone.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I don't think he's that great of a player anyway, just saying that in a vacuum, or from a less cursed family, maybe you don't let that stop you from drafting someone.


I'll buy that.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

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NBA Mock Draft 2019: Order Updated for Lottery
By Jonathan Adams
Updated Apr 11, 2019 at 10:57am

I'd be OK with Schofield at 29.

[objective]

The point is not when it happened, but that it seems to have had no long term ill effect.

I'd actually rather deal with a ligament tear with no associated meniscus issues, than a meniscus tear. The meniscus heals quicker, but the clock has started on when the knee goes bone on bone.

I'm don't agree too much on the 'no ill effects' with Davis. I watched his games before the injuries and I don't think he moves as well as he did before the tears.

I'd only take Porter in the second. Beyond the family injury history, I don't like how the ACL didn't even fully heal before snapping again.

Davis had healed and was playing in the acb before it tore again. He's talked about how the second rehab was easier because he knew he had come back and played well and he knew what it would take. If I remember right Porter didn't even get back on the court, he snapped in rehab.

That's something very worrying to me

[exstatic]

I'm don't agree too much on the 'no ill effects' with Davis. I watched his games before the injuries and I don't think he moves as well as he did before the tears.

I'd only take Porter in the second. Beyond the family injury history, I don't like how the ACL didn't even fully heal before snapping again.

Davis had healed and was playing in the acb before it tore again. He's talked about how the second rehab was easier because he knew he had come back and played well and he knew what it would take. If I remember right Porter didn't even get back on the court, he snapped in rehab.

That's something very worrying to me
Porter returned to basketball activities before he was cleared. That’s why he tore it again. Or, his family is cursed. Or both.

[GusT15]

Porter returned to basketball activities before he was cleared. That’s why he tore it again. Or, his family is cursed. Or both.

It's not a curse.
It's kinda explained what the causes may have been on this article but from my personal experience i'm gonna go with genetics.

http://www.loefflerslink.com/inside-279.html

I have the same condition on my l5 vertebrae that forced my dad to have spine surgery at age 65.When the doctor was going through the MRI video he had to double check if he pulled the right file cause the structural damage was identical.
It's rare,but it happens.

[SpurPadre]

I'd be OK with Schofield at 29.

There can only be one Admiral in San Antonio, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

There is no way Porter gets drafted by us even if he falls to us, tbh. He's not a character guy.

[objective]

Porter returned to basketball activities before he was cleared. That’s why he tore it again. Or, his family is cursed. Or both.

Basketball activities aren't professional games. To me, that's a difference on what the body goes through before during and after in high level competitive games. Dribbling around or doing some half court or 3-on-3 with ball boys and walk ons and being unable to make it through without snapping is a giant red flag

[objective]

Different guy for the second round: Miye Oni

Another 6-5 guy who is a good athlete. Ivy league, long shot to be an NBA player. Maybe a Brandon Paul type

[BackHome]

You have the luxury of knowing how Davis' rehab came out. You picked one example where you know that it worked out okay. It's not a question of whether it's possible to come back 100% after an ACL tear. It's a question of risk. If Anthony Davis had missed a chunk of his one year in college due to an ACL tear, and then had second tear right before the draft?

BTW - you didn't mention that Porter's whole family seems to have injury problems. His oldest brother had FIVE ACL tears, and is medically retired. His sister had a bunch of knee surgeries and is medically retired. And Michael had two back surgeries, and only played 3 games in college. So are some people really accident prone? Ask the Pelicans. Anthony Davis has had 30+ injuries in his 7 years in the league.

Pass on Jontay Porter.

He is right no way in hell would I touch him with a first round maybe second but why when he is so injury prone?

[ZeusWillJudge]

I mentioned Keldon Johnson earlier in the week. He had just declared, and they were projecting him for a mid-second round pick. I thought he would be one hell of a bargain at that spot - almost too good to be true.

I just read a good article saying that he's now showing at a 20-25 pick, which makes a lot more sense. But the article is questioning whether he will decide to come back for one more year at Kentucky instead, if he thinks he will go that low. So it looks like second round is out (as it should be). If he does go higher than 20, it's going to shove someone else down a notch. Everything is still really fluid about who will actually be there, who won't, and who is going to get pushed down low enough for the Spurs to have a shot.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/11/18306300/nba-mock-draft-2019-espn-60-picks-order-knicks-zion-williamson-bulls-suns

[Mr. Body]

I mentioned Keldon Johnson earlier in the week. He had just declared, and they were projecting him for a mid-second round pick. I thought he would be one hell of a bargain at that spot - almost too good to be true.

I just read a good article saying that he's now showing at a 20-25 pick, which makes a lot more sense. But the article is questioning whether he will decide to come back for one more year at Kentucky instead, if he thinks he will go that low. So it looks like second round is out (as it should be). If he does go higher than 20, it's going to shove someone else down a notch. Everything is still really fluid about who will actually be there, who won't, and who is going to get pushed down low enough for the Spurs to have a shot.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/11/18306300/nba-mock-draft-2019-espn-60-picks-order-knicks-zion-williamson-bulls-suns

I'd be very surprised to see the Spurs draft a Kentucky player, but maybe a 2nd round flyer. They generally have low fundamentals and barely understand the game beyond their superior given talent. Coach Cal doesn't develop them at all, just lets them run around.

[keithington1]

Roby looks like a Spurs pick at 29. He's just missing confidence but he has everything the Spurs look for

[ZeusWillJudge]

Roby looks like a Spurs pick at 29. He's just missing confidence but he has everything the Spurs look for


Earlier in the year, his coach was pretty adamant that Roby was going to come back for his senior year. He declared, but isn't hiring an agent, so he could change his mind. I think he may have declared because his coach was leaving, but Nebraska already hired Fred Hoiberg to replace him. I think he'd stay in the draft if he has an idea that he'd go in the first round. I honestly never watched him play, and the "scouting reports" are all over the place on him.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I'd be very surprised to see the Spurs draft a Kentucky player, but maybe a 2nd round flyer. They generally have low fundamentals and barely understand the game beyond their superior given talent. Coach Cal doesn't develop them at all, just lets them run around.


Yeah, I don't know. A lot of people bitch because he gets some of the top talents, and they think one-and-done is evil. He's had more than his share of talented players, and I think every one that has declared after their freshman year has gone in the first round.

I don't think the Spurs would pass on him just because he came through Kentucky. I liked him as a second round bargain, but that's not really likely given what I said above. My beef is that he's another 6'5" player, and I still think the Spurs have a glut of those. If they're going to package a young player or two in a trade, then getting him at 29 would still be a good pickup. He's got talent.

I'm always looking for the bargain guys who should probably go higher than they do.

[duncan2150]

I mentioned Keldon Johnson earlier in the week. He had just declared, and they were projecting him for a mid-second round pick. I thought he would be one hell of a bargain at that spot - almost too good to be true.

I just read a good article saying that he's now showing at a 20-25 pick, which makes a lot more sense. But the article is questioning whether he will decide to come back for one more year at Kentucky instead, if he thinks he will go that low. So it looks like second round is out (as it should be). If he does go higher than 20, it's going to shove someone else down a notch. Everything is still really fluid about who will actually be there, who won't, and who is going to get pushed down low enough for the Spurs to have a shot.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/4/11/18306300/nba-mock-draft-2019-espn-60-picks-order-knicks-zion-williamson-bulls-suns

Keldon Johnson was always a top 20 guy ( more top 15) in a lot of mocks, i will be very surprised if he falls to the secound round. I'm pretty sure he won't, if the Spurs grab him it's with their 18-20 pick.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Latesy Givony mock has the Spurs getting Rui and Okpala - this would be insane. Package Bryn and the 2nd round pick for an early 2nd to grab Okeke would be a dream scenario.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Keldon Johnson was always a top 20 guy ( more top 15) in a lot of mocks, i will be very surprised if he falls to the secound round. I'm pretty sure he won't, if the Spurs grab him it's with their 18-20 pick.


I don't think he believes he's going that high, which is why he left the door open to go back for another year of college. I wouldn't even think about him at 18-20, but maybe someone else will.

My main point was to let people read that article. It shows how there could be some late declares that push other players down the board, and there will be at least a few who withdraw and go back for another year of college.

[duncan2150]

I don't think he believes he's going that high, which is why he left the door open to go back for another year of college. I wouldn't even think about him at 18-20, but maybe someone else will.

My main point was to let people read that article. It shows how there could be some late declares that push other players down the board, and there will be at least a few who withdraw and go back for another year of college.

why you don't like him with our first pick ? you think he is undersized or too small ? i think he is a good prospect but more of a sg/sf than a pure SF.

[Drom John]

Fansided: Pippen Ain't Easy: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: End of Regular Season
by Aaron Peterson 4 hours ago [AKA 12 April 2019]


19. Spurs- Grant Williams, F, Tennessee

Stock Trend from Pre-Tournament Mock: +8

The middle of the first round is dominated by power forwards, and the third one off the board is Williams to San Antonio. Despite a playoff berth, San Antonio has to be looking ahead. LaMarcus Aldridge is certainly not getting younger, and this seems as good a time as any to search for his eventual replacement.

In addition, Williams should be ready to make an impact off the bench immediately. He likely won’t become a star, but you know what you’re getting out of him on a nightly basis.


29. Spurs (via TOR.)- Naz Reid, C, Louisiana State

Stock Trend from Pre-Tournament Mock: +7

San Antonio has no center who they feel comfortable with taking over a long-term role on the team. With Reid, Gregg Popovich may just be able to find his long-term solution. A gritty rebounder and defender, Reid is the spitting image of a Popovich big- not too exciting to watch, but gets the job done.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: 1st-Round Predictions, Breaking Down Prospects on the Rise
Zach Buckley
April 12, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs: Rui Hachimura, PF, Gonzaga


28. Golden State Warriors: Grant Williams, PF/C, Tennessee

[Drom John]

New Arena: NewArena’s First 2019 NBA Mock Draft
NBA by Harris Ahmadzai Apr 11, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs: Brandon Clarke, F, Gonzaga

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Clarke would have won Most Improved Player of college basketball if such an award were given out each year. The Canadian import was a revelation for one of the best teams in the country in Gonzaga. A bit undersized for the center spot, Clarke makes up for it with excellent instincts, leaping ability, and leadership. His shot blocking and finishing around the rim will keep him on the floor for years to come.


29. San Antonio Spurs (from TOR): Grant Williams, F, Tennesee

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Traditionally, the Spurs prefer to select the more polished players in the pool. Williams is a back-to-back SEC Player of the Year, and boasts an advanced inside game with the ability to stretch his game beyond the three-point line. He’s tough, doesn’t make a whole lot of mistakes, and is highly-efficient on the offensive end.

[ZeusWillJudge]

New Arena: NewArena’s First 2019 NBA Mock Draft
NBA by Harris Ahmadzai Apr 11, 2019



29. San Antonio Spurs (from TOR): Grant Williams, F, Tennesee



I like Grant Williams. A lot. Dammit, he's yet ANOTHER 6'5" player - but he's got a huge wingspan. Somewhere close to 7'. But he's not a prolific 3P shooter, and his percentage would have to improve. When you're 6'5" and you aren't a prolific 3P shooter, you've really got to be able to create off the dribble. He's an adequate athlete, from what I saw, but not exceptional.

If the Spurs get a 6'8" or so player with the first pick, and he's still there at 29? Maybe. But once again, if they take a 6'5" guy in the first round, it means a guaranteed contract and more of a logjam at that size.
If he could get to the FT line anything like as often as he has in college, I'd take him and put one of the other young guns on the trade block. But he won't be able to do that.

[TheCerebral1]

Get someone with height who is polished!

[duncan2150]

I like Grant Williams. A lot. Dammit, he's yet ANOTHER 6'5" player - but he's got a huge wingspan. Somewhere close to 7'. But he's not a prolific 3P shooter, and his percentage would have to improve. When you're 6'5" and you aren't a prolific 3P shooter, you've really got to be able to create off the dribble. He's an adequate athlete, from what I saw, but not exceptional.

If the Spurs get a 6'8" or so player with the first pick, and he's still there at 29? Maybe. But once again, if they take a 6'5" guy in the first round, it means a guaranteed contract and more of a logjam at that size.
If he could get to the FT line anything like as often as he has in college, I'd take him and put one of the other young guns on the trade block. But he won't be able to do that.


ok i understand. I don't know what player Grant Williams could be. He's an undersized PF, not a big athlet but he looks interesting, he is strong, tough guy and can score.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

I like Williams at 29, if he's available. He has very similar measurements to Draymond Green, with a better offensive game than Green had in college. I don't think he is a really high ceiling guy, but I think he is at least a solid bench contributor.

[sasaint]

Latesy Givony mock has the Spurs getting Rui and Okpala - this would be insane. Package Bryn and the 2nd round pick for an early 2nd to grab Okeke would be a dream scenario.

Dream scenario, but not very realistic.

[kobyz]

Luis King could be a nice option for first round pick, ultimate 3 and D prospect, Trevor Ariza type player...

[BackHome]

Yep I like Louis King a true SF who can shoot the 3 ball and play decent defense has some upside to him.

[RC_Drunkford]

Luis King could be a nice option for first round pick, ultimate 3 and D prospect, Trevor Ariza type player...

that's exactly the type of player we need

[r0drig0lac]

that's exactly the type of player we need

[ceperez]

I suspect Spurs might do a 'George Hill' again by trading their beloved 'Dejounte Murray' for a higher pick.

[r0drig0lac]

Third tiebreaker: Indiana gets the #18 pick, San Antonio gets the #19 pick, Boston (via the LA Clippers) get the #20 pick,

[NASpurs]

Third tiebreaker: Indiana gets the #18 pick, San Antonio gets the #19 pick, Boston (via the LA Clippers) get the #20 pick,

Not bad, at least it's not the 20th pick.

[Degoat]

Yeah I’ll take the 19th pick :bobo

[JeffDuncan]

19 in '19. It's charmed, I'll take it.

[Chinook]

Third tiebreaker: Indiana gets the #18 pick, San Antonio gets the #19 pick, Boston (via the LA Clippers) get the #20 pick,

Looks like SA would have gotten 19 even if OKC had lost. Not quite perfect.

[exstatic]

I suspect Spurs might do a 'George Hill' again by trading their beloved 'Dejounte Murray' for a higher pick.

I think that it's possible that they flip Dejounte, but probably not for a pick in a shitty draft like this. Maybe Boston or Toronto may come calling when they lose their PGs this summer.

[slick'81]

Yea 19/29 is kool af

[exstatic]

:lol

F Danny Ainge. Boston got the worst pick all three times in the tiebreakers. They could have had 12,18,21 and instead got 14,20,22.

[Biggems]

1 doumbouya
1 Thybulle
2 Roby

How would y'all feel about this draft?