Spurs Draft Discussion: 2019 NBA Draft

[ZeusWillJudge]

The more I think about it, the more I don't believe it will happen.


Chuma Okeke can give you a million reasons why it won't happen.

When you're the consensus #1 pick, you don't risk it.

[Jsmythe]

Here is some news from the nba draft combine that says Luka Samanic is impressing:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-draft-combine-tacko-fall-still-turning-heads-croatias-luka-samanic-on-the-rise-and-other-takeaways/

[duncan2150]

I'd rather pick 2 players. The talent level is pretty even and Spurs need to stack the team with players 24 and under so they are all on the same timeline and can be a contender in a few years. If they can ship out some salary to open cap space I'm all for it though

I agree. In this draft I will not give 2 picks to move up a little bit. After the top 3, a lot of players can be really good role players.

[exstatic]

Here is some news from the nba draft combine that says Luka Samanic is impressing:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-draft-combine-tacko-fall-still-turning-heads-croatias-luka-samanic-on-the-rise-and-other-takeaways/

Samanic moved up into the first round mock on Tankathon.

[acoelho1]

If the Spurs want to move up, it's because they expect a player they covet to be there, which means no trade would happen until the draft selection.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, I can see the Spurs' trading up or out. You don't want three guys in Austin all season.

[cd021]

I am kind of hoping SA can work with ATL on their 10th pick and move up for someone in that range. Brandon Clarke or Reddish or if things really go great Hunter.

Not sure if 19 & 29 would do it, but one would think ATL would be open to moving 10 for two other firsts.

Bertans, 19 and 29 for the 10th pick an interesting offer if ATL is interesting Bertans and also not married to the 10th pick. They could take Bertans into cap space after July 1st.

Think drafting Clarke with a top 10 pick would be a disaster though if that was the target, then they'd be better off hoping that Washington Jr or Rui falls to 19.

[Dejounte]

19. Grant Williams
29. Luka Samanic

More and more Ive been impressed with Luka. Moving him above KZ.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1129418791664934913

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1129418791664934913

looking good

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ChicagoSports/status/1129516947081650178

[Realdeal1]

More info from clan : Spurs looking to target Jabari Parker in the off season..Spurs looking to move 19th and 29th picks to get a top 12 pick... maybe Atlanta , Charlotte or Minnesota pick ..Spurs targeting rui hachimura with a top 12'pick if not then looking at Cameron Johnson with the 19th pick

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1129418791664934913

looked like the Croatian Anthony Davis in that vid

[RC_Drunkford]

More info from clan : Spurs looking to target Jabari Parker in the off season..Spurs looking to move 19th and 29th picks to get a top 12 pick... maybe Atlanta , Charlotte or Minnesota pick ..Spurs targeting rui hachimura with a top 12'pick if not then looking at Cameron Johnson with the 19th pick

when has this Clan dude ever predicted anything? He also said Spurs wanted to trade for Jrue Holiday at the deadline

[Realdeal1]

when has this Clan dude ever predicted anything? He also said Spurs wanted to trade for Jrue Holiday at the deadline

he says he has NBA sources ... he did say Spurs were interested in Holiday and Bertans was on the trading block and was almost traded for Terry Rozier ... obviously neither happened but that doesn't completely discredit him... im
just passing along info .. all we can do is wait and see if it happens

[slick'81]

when has this Clan dude ever predicted anything? He also said Spurs wanted to trade for Jrue Holiday at the deadline


Speculation nothing more

[Russ]

A question for all who would venture an opinion:

Who would you take, Luka Samanic or Goga Bitadze?

[Fusternino]

Why would we trade Bertans for Rozier? LOL.

[RC_Drunkford]

he says he has NBA sources ... he did say Spurs were interested in Holiday and Bertans was on the trading block and was almost traded for Terry Rozier ... obviously neither happened but that doesn't completely discredit him... im
just passing along info .. all we can do is wait and see if it happens

He says they making a run at Hachimura cause that's the only prospect he knows about. WTF did the Spurs have to match Holidays salary? Pau Gasol and Patty Mills is the only trade that would work :rollin

i call bullshit, but I would love it to get Hachimura. Thats who I want. And Jabari Parker could be a low risk high reward reclamation project. The idea is nice

[Cardinal]

Who or what is "Clan"?

[ZeusWillJudge]

A question for all who would venture an opinion:

Who would you take, Luka Samanic or Goga Bitadze?


I've never been a fan of Bitadze. Samanic, even before the combine.

I'm so tired at looking at all the changing mocks. And after about the first 4 players, they all have warts and/or risks. This is what I've sort of come down to, and unless something crazy happens it's the best I see for the Spurs of the players that are likely to be around at each pick.


19: Rui Hachimura (if available)
Cam Johnson

29: Chuma Okeke (if available)
Luka Samanic
Matisse Thybulle

49: Cody Martin
Jalen Lecque

Lecque is one of the big risk/reward players in this draft. He could be a bust, but he could also be a star. It looks like a good investment at 49.

I liked Okeke before the injury, and I can't quit liking him now. I think he'll put his year of rehab to good use, and wouldn't need the whole next season in Austin. The 29 pick would be a bargain for him, offset a little by a year of investment.

[venitian navigator]

Out main priority is a real small forward. Looks that the first option small forwards in this draft that could be of interest for us are in the picks from four to fifteen...I mean names from Hunter (4 to 8) to Reddish (4 to 12) to Little (8 to 15)...these are the three I think we are targeting. So I think that for having some chances to one of them we need a pick at least in the top 12 and that looks to be the actual target as of now.
How can we get that? trading some of our outside shooters...aka the most marketable kind of player nowadays.
We have three of them imho extremely valuable...(Forbes, Bertans and Beli) simply because of good combination of efficiency and small money(and no big years) contract.
I see four teams in that drafting range potentially interested: Hawks, Wizards, Wolves and Hornets...expecially the last three with, probably, some big unuseful contract to unload (Mahinmi, Dieng, Zeller/Kidd Gilchrist).

[look_at_g_shred]

I think having Luca/white/Murray on the floor together would be hella fun to watch

[Gordy58]

What’s with all the love for Rui? He plays inside most of the time from what I have seen, and while he’s a decent mid range shooter I’m not sure his shooting stroke is natural enough to go in consistently from three. His defense imo is overrated, but could improve obviously. I hope I’m wrong, but I’d Rather have Okpala, Samanic, Little, Porter, Cam Johnson over Rui.

[picnroll]

I've never been a fan of Bitadze. Samanic, even before the combine.

I'm so tired at looking at all the changing mocks. And after about the first 4 players, they all have warts and/or risks. This is what I've sort of come down to, and unless something crazy happens it's the best I see for the Spurs of the players that are likely to be around at each pick.


19: Rui Hachimura (if available)
Cam Johnson

29: Chuma Okeke (if available)
Luka Samanic
Matisse Thybulle

49: Cody Martin
Jalen Lecque

Lecque is one of the big risk/reward players in this draft. He could be a bust, but he could also be a star. It looks like a good investment at 49.

I liked Okeke before the injury, and I can't quit liking him now. I think he'll put his year of rehab to good use, and wouldn't need the whole next season in Austin. The 29 pick would be a bargain for him, offset a little by a year of investment.

In spite of my doubts given Spurs needs I’m on board with Hachimura as the 1st pick hoping Spurs can work with his instincts and iq but I’d rather see the Spurs go after Nassir Little but they’d almost certainly have to move up to get him. Second pick I’d go for Cameron Johnson or Windler for the shooting. 2nd round I’d take a flyer on Taco hoping you get the next Gobert.

[cd021]

What’s with all the love for Rui? He plays inside most of the time from what I have seen, and while he’s a decent mid range shooter I’m not sure his shooting stroke is natural enough to go in consistently from three. His defense imo is overrated, but could improve obviously. I hope I’m wrong, but I’d Rather have Okpala, Samanic, Little, Porter, Cam Johnson over Rui.

He reminds me of Rudy Gay tbh. I think he'll be a 4 that can defend some on the perimeter and has some ball handling and a pull up game, good athlete, If he can knock down spot up 3's then I like him as a player. His fit in the NBA is much more straightforward than his teammate Clarke's is.

[cd021]

A question for all who would venture an opinion:

Who would you take, Luka Samanic or Goga Bitadze?

Bitadze and it's not especially close, in my opinion.

[Degoat]

I keep seeing lots of articles talking about how a lot of teams with lottery picks between (7-14) may really consider trading back if given a decent package. I saw one article that talked about how the bulls (7th pick) would like to draft a big and a player like Carsen Edwards because they desperately need a PG.

forbes, 19, and 29 for 7th pick, probably a dream but who knows people are really low on this draft

[Russ]

forbes, 19, and 29 for 7th pick, probably a dream but who knows people are really low on this draft

I might call that a nightmare rather than a dream.

But who the heck knows.

[Degoat]

I might call that a nightmare rather than a dream.

But who the heck knows.

Nah I agree with you idk if I would make that trade either unless Spurs have their eye on a specific player that will only be available at 7, but say hunter, cullver, or reddish falls there id pull the trigger

[Dejounte]

Heres my picks if the Spurs play it "safe" or go for what most here feel they should go for....length.

1. KZ Okpala
2. Isaiah Roby
3. PJ Washington
4. Luka Samanic
5. Louis King
6. Eric Paschall
7. Rui Hachimura

[ZeusWillJudge]

In spite of my doubts given Spurs needs I’m on board with Hachimura as the 1st pick hoping Spurs can work with his instincts and iq but I’d rather see the Spurs go after Nassir Little but they’d almost certainly have to move up to get him. Second pick I’d go for Cameron Johnson or Windler for the shooting. 2nd round I’d take a flyer on Taco hoping you get the next Gobert.


In the right circumstances, Fall could probably be useful. But in those same situations Boban was useful. I don't think he'd get floor time under Pop, so I can't see them spending a pick on him.

Do a search on Lecque. He's a confident, athletic young man - I think he'd be a great on to take a flyer on. But the rumors now are that he's already got a commitment from a team. I don't think he makes it to 49 anymore.

[ZeusWillJudge]

What’s with all the love for Rui? He plays inside most of the time from what I have seen, and while he’s a decent mid range shooter I’m not sure his shooting stroke is natural enough to go in consistently from three. His defense imo is overrated, but could improve obviously. I hope I’m wrong, but I’d Rather have Okpala, Samanic, Little, Porter, Cam Johnson over Rui.


He's a smart player, and he'll work on his game. I think that by his second season, he'll be shooting 3's in the high .300's. He's at least adequate on D, and he would get the message how important it is in SA, and improve there as well. Nothing but gut hunch based on watching him on the court the last couple of seasons.

[exstatic]

I keep seeing lots of articles talking about how a lot of teams with lottery picks between (7-14) may really consider trading back if given a decent package. I saw one article that talked about how the bulls (7th pick) would like to draft a big and a player like Carsen Edwards because they desperately need a PG.

forbes, 19, and 29 for 7th pick, probably a dream but who knows people are really low on this draft

Edwards ain’t gonna be there at 19, so it’s kind of moot.

[picnroll]

In the right circumstances, Fall could probably be useful. But in those same situations Boban was useful. I don't think he'd get floor time under Pop, so I can't see them spending a pick on him.

Do a search on Lecque. He's a confident, athletic young man - I think he'd be a great on to take a flyer on. But the rumors now are that he's already got a commitment from a team. I don't think he makes it to 49 anymore.

Know nothing about Jalen Lecque. Apparently he has excellent athleticism, had some moments in the combine, at this point can’t shoot a lick, would probably need 2 yrs in g league and looks like he got a promise from someone. With Murray, White and Walker it’d be a crunch. If Spurs saw something in him and somebody became trade bait sure. Second round is a major crap shoot, 1 in 10 makes an NBA career and many of those not with the team that drafted them so why not.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Edwards ain’t gonna be there at 19, so it’s kind of moot.


If I counted all the players that aren't going to be there at 19, it would be a lot more than 18 players. And that's just the ones people are talking about. There will probably be a surprise or two that will push some players down.

[Thomas82]

If I counted all the players that aren't going to be there at 19, it would be a lot more than 18 players. And that's just the ones people are talking about. There will probably be a surprise or two that will push some players down.

It happens like that every single year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

should go after volume scorer, u need one of t hose alpha ball hogs... teach him how to play the game as a team and u have a winner pick

[BackHome]

KY

[Dejounte]

should go after volume scorer, u need one of t hose alpha ball hogs... teach him how to play the game as a team and u have a winner pick

This is going to be KZ Okpala. The offense ran through him bcause their pgs sucked.

[exstatic]

If I counted all the players that aren't going to be there at 19, it would be a lot more than 18 players. And that's just the ones people are talking about. There will probably be a surprise or two that will push some players down.
Actually, I was thinking of Garland, not Edwards. My bad.

Oh, and I agree with your premise. I was saying in another thread that there usually seems to be a Cabolco or a Huestis thrown in pretty regularly.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs gotta try to get Hachimura. He got star potential and would be Spurs lifer. Not a lot of holes in his game either and he can play right away. Still my first choice. I really hope the Lakers don't pick him

[exstatic]

Spurs gotta try to get Hachimura. He got star potential and would be Spurs lifer. Not a lot of holes in his game either and he can play right away. Still my first choice. I really hope the Lakers don't pick him

At #4? What ARE you smoking?

[Dejounte]

Spurs gotta try to get Hachimura. He got star potential and would be Spurs lifer. Not a lot of holes in his game either and he can play right away. Still my first choice. I really hope the Lakers don't pick him

Glad youre not our GM. Rui has got the look of the part (probably what youve fallen for) but its far from the truth when you say he has no holes in his game. Dude does not have dribbling skills at all, his only post move is a layup from 3 feet from the basket. His offense consists of face up jumpers and thats all. Doesnt even have a eurostep like everyone nowadays. Hes going to be turnover prone when he gets into the league. His best case scenario is poor mans Paul Millsap. His worst case is Jaron Blossomgame.

Try to watch more of his game. And try to watch other prospects PLEASE. Compare how much Rui is lacking in his game compared to even KZ Okpala or Isaiah Roby. Even Eric Paschall has way more skills than Rui.

[RC_Drunkford]

At #4? What ARE you smoking?

I know that would be a reach, but they apparently are high on Little and Hachimura so who knows


Glad youre not our GM. Rui has got the look of the part (probably what youve fallen for) but its far from the truth when you say he has no holes in his game. Dude does not have dribbling skills at all, his only post move is a layup from 3 feet from the basket. His offense consists of face up jumpers and thats all. Doesnt even have a eurostep like everyone nowadays. Hes going to be turnover prone when he gets into the league. His best case scenario is poor mans Paul Millsap. His worst case is Jaron Blossomgame.

Try to watch more of his game. And try to watch other prospects PLEASE. Compare how much Rui is lacking in his game compared to even KZ Okpala or Isaiah Roby. Even Eric Paschall has way more skills than Rui.

well his defensive holes are definitely fixable. Offensively he got a good midrange game, so extending his range to the 3-point line should be possible. His dribble doesn't seem that bad since he's great running in transition with the ball. Face up game is deadly. Post moves can be taught, especially when players like Duncan come to the gym a lot to work with the young guys. I just think the things he's missing, he can add to his game. I like Roby a lot by the way

[picnroll]

I have my concerns about Hachimura, defense and feel, but having to be figured in is he didn’t start playing until he was 14, so for 5 years. I’m guessing the training he got in Japan was not the highest caliber and when he got to the states he knew zero English so training and coaching him was impaired. Not hard to believe his limitations can be dealt with. One thing I’m pretty confident of is Spurs are great at getting a read on perimeter players. That said on raw tools I’d much prefer Little.

[GBO542]

Have any of you seen the combine agility numbers for Jordan Bone? Holy shit! First in all the runs, first in standing vert, and second in max vert. I didn't pay any attention to him at Tennessee, but damn he's fast. He shot .525 on 2P attempts, and .355 on 3P attempts, and dished 5.8 AST per game. But he's a 6'1.5" shooting guard.

I wonder if he can learn culture?

Bone is a PG. his athleticism is elite for sure and he shot well in the shooting drills at the combine. I can’t believe he’s not getting more love in mocks. Good character guy with elite athleticism and an NBA body at PG. he’ll stick on a roster.

[Degoat]

Hachimura will be gone by are pick and I can’t imagine us trading up for him

[picnroll]

Murray was going to be gone, White was going to be gone by some mocks, Walker was going to be gone. Who knows. After the first 4-5 picks this is one of the most unpredictable drafts in years.

[cd021]

Murray was going to be gone, White was going to be gone by some mocks, Walker was going to be gone. Who knows. After the first 4-5 picks this is one of the most unpredictable drafts in years.

The Dejounte Murray draft was definitely the most random draft I can think of. We'll see though.

[picnroll]

The Dejounte Murray draft was definitely the most random draft I can think of. We'll see though.
The Murray draft was loaded with starter talent. This draft has more role player talent with land mines scattered throughout

.

[Biggems]

I've never been a fan of Bitadze. Samanic, even before the combine.

I'm so tired at looking at all the changing mocks. And after about the first 4 players, they all have warts and/or risks. This is what I've sort of come down to, and unless something crazy happens it's the best I see for the Spurs of the players that are likely to be around at each pick.


19: Rui Hachimura (if available)
Cam Johnson

29: Chuma Okeke (if available)
Luka Samanic
Matisse Thybulle

49: Cody Martin
Jalen Lecque

Lecque is one of the big risk/reward players in this draft. He could be a bust, but he could also be a star. It looks like a good investment at 49.

I liked Okeke before the injury, and I can't quit liking him now. I think he'll put his year of rehab to good use, and wouldn't need the whole next season in Austin. The 29 pick would be a bargain for him, offset a little by a year of investment.

At 49 I want C Jessie Govan Georgetown.....I think he would compliment our current roster well on both ends of the court. If Thybulle is truly an elite defender, take him at 29......at 19 get the best available prospect on the board.

[duncan2150]

One guy who did well at the combine and look on the rise is Nicolas Claxton. He had pretty good athletic results and he had a workout with the spurs per Jabari Parker.

https://twitter.com/jabarijyoung/status/1129448125301706753?s=12

[cjw]

At #4? What ARE you smoking?

I’d be ecstatic if the Lakers took him at four, because it’s a significant overdraft and would mean another player dropping further.

Plenty of guys who could be decent contributors will be available at 19, and 29 allows them to move up if they want to, or if someone else is clamoring for a guy at 29, trade it for a future lottery protected first.

[BackHome]

I would not mind Spurs moving 29 pick to some team for their first round next year.

[palangi]

Trade DeRozan to the Lakers for Ingram and a future 1. Ingram might be available with his blood clot issue.

19- Cameron Johnson SG/SG 6'8"- he could be a Klay Thompson type 2 guard that could also play the 3. Incredible shooter.
https://youtu.be/l_6YKHQoNWU

29- Isaiah Roby SF 6'8" - big strong wing player. Developing offensive game. Long wingspan at 7'2". Good athlete. Would compliment Ingram well.
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

49- Neemius Queta C 7'- a long (7'4" wingspan) athletic center. Great defender and garbage scoring offensive guy. Cleans the boards and lob guy on offense.
https://youtu.be/S2zVzpQT2fM

PG- White, Murray, Forbes
SG- Walker, Johnson, Bellineli
SF- Ingram, Roby, Moore
PF- Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, Metu
C - Poeltl, Queta, Eubanks

[pad300]

Trade DeRozan to the Lakers for Ingram and a future 1. Ingram might be available with his blood clot issue.

19- Cameron Johnson SG/SG 6'8"- he could be a Klay Thompson type 2 guard that could also play the 3. Incredible shooter.
https://youtu.be/l_6YKHQoNWU

29- Isaiah Roby SF 6'8" - big strong wing player. Developing offensive game. Long wingspan at 7'2". Good athlete. Would compliment Ingram well.
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0

49- Neemius Queta C 7'- a long (7'4" wingspan) athletic center. Great defender and garbage scoring offensive guy. Cleans the boards and lob guy on offense.
https://youtu.be/S2zVzpQT2fM

PG- White, Murray, Forbes
SG- Walker, Johnson, Bellineli
SF- Ingram, Roby, Moore
PF- Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, Metu
C - Poeltl, Queta, Eubanks

Not a chance Queta stays in if he's not projected in the first round (and likely gets a late promise...).

[palangi]

Not a chance Queta stays in if he's not projected in the first round (and likely gets a late promise...).

Well as of now he's in and a second round guy. But thank you

[BackHome]

Yeah I mentioned him and Okeke in my top 5 awhile back he is a project but does have potential.

[exstatic]

Well as of now he's in and a second round guy. But thank you

There’s no point in pulling out of the draft early. There’s a chance that before the withdrawal deadline, some team may make him a first round promise. It’s best to wait to til the last minute to withdraw. That’s all that Pad was saying, that if he doesn’t get that promise, he’ll go back to school.

[Dejounte]

New overall Big board for realistic options at our draft positions:

1st tier
1. Isaiah Roby (highest potential of all the picks)
2. Luka Samonic (dude actually plays great defense and has balls to his game)
3. Grant Williams (total culture fit, elite post game, does need to improve perimeter D)
4. PJ Washington (safest pick Spurs can make. Will play right away if drafted)

2nd tier
5. KZ Okpala ( faster Kyle Anderson with better footwork. But probably lower bball IQ and will need to learn how to play within a team)
6. Rui Hachimura ( can come in as a David West type player. If youre expecting Kawhi, youll be disappointed)
7. Matisse Thybulle (would like to see his defense on this team)
8. Jontay Porter (elite shooter, elite passer, but a lot of injury concerns)

3rd tier
9. Nassir Little (too small, lacks skills)
10. Louis King (good player but probably has low bball iq)
11. Eric Paschall (Quincy Pondexter clone? Or a Jamal Crawford clone? Maybe somewhere in the middle)

[palangi]

There’s no point in pulling out of the draft early. There’s a chance that before the withdrawal deadline, some team may make him a first round promise. It’s best to wait to til the last minute to withdraw. That’s all that Pad was saying, that if he doesn’t get that promise, he’ll go back to school.

Thank you. I knew what he said. I was explaining why I put him in still. But thank you

[RC_Drunkford]

: Heard Rui got a commitment in the lottery (Minnesota was the buzz at the Combine) (http://twitter.com/TonyCantarella1/status/1130149137171849218) — usually when you take a commitment you shut down workouts and meetings with teams.

[cutewizard]

I hope the Spurs draft well

[BackHome]

Latest mock has us taking PF Mfiondo Kagengele at 19 and SF KZ at 29.

note: big man Queta moving up to 30

[Dejounte]

Latest mock has us taking PF Mfiondo Kagengele at 19 and SF KZ at 29.

note: big man Queta moving up to 30

Which mock?

[BackHome]

CBS nba they just did another update and have us taking Keldon Johnson SG at 19 and Kangle at 29

[cd021]

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

[pad300]

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

Works for me. If they want Mills instead, I'd happily give him up instead... Not so confident Sixers are interested though.

[Dejounte]

Why not include our 2nd as well?

Luka, Grant, Isaiah Roby would be a perfect draft for me.

PG: Dejounte/ White
SG: DeMar/ Lonnie
SF: Gay/ Roby/ Grant Williams
PF: Aldridge/ Semanic/ Moore
C: Poetl/ Metu/ Eubanks

[cd021]

Works for me. If they want Mills instead, I'd happily give him up instead... Not so confident Sixers are interested though.

Mills makes too much for too long tbh. Beli has $5.8 for next year while Mills has two years remaining for more than twice that. If they re-sign both Harris, Butler, along with Embiid and Simmons.

[DPG21920]

In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

So a couple of things. I would love that trade for SA, getting rid of Beli and getting an asset would be big and early 2nd picks have solid value.

However, Beli’s money being gone doesn’t functionally change much so that is not an incentive for SA. It would clear up a logjam though so that is a benefit. But it’s an important point to make.

For PHI, they had Beli at that price and let him go. I don’t know that anything has changed where they would want him back.

[Trueblood]

CBS nba they just did another update and have us taking Keldon Johnson SG at 19 and Kangle at 29

He's not the worst option at 19. I personally believe we should draft best player available regardless of position then pick up Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in free agency (I believe he's a player with untapped potential with a bad organization) to fill the hole at SF.

[exstatic]

He's not the worst option at 19. I personally believe we should draft best player available regardless of position then pick up Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in free agency (I believe he's a player with untapped potential with a bad organization) to fill the hole at SF.

The thing is, this will be MKGs third contract. He’s making $13M now, and probably will want something close to that. Do you really want to sink That kind of cap into a third contract development project?

[Trueblood]

The thing is, this will be MKGs third contract. He’s making $13M now, and probably will want something close to that. Do you really want to sink That kind of cap into a third contract development project?

Good point. To answer your question, no, I say offer the mid level exception and see if he takes it. Can't get told no unless you ask. Maybe playing for a better organization could sway him over money

[pad300]

The thing is, this will be MKGs third contract. He’s making $13M now, and probably will want something close to that. Do you really want to sink That kind of cap into a third contract development project?

Well, the most we can offer him (barring some big maneuvers) is the MLE... So if he signs with us, that's what he's getting.

[Russ]

Athletic forward Darius Bazley could be another second round sleeper.

He's off the radar because he sat out what would have been his freshman year in college to prepare for the draft (he decommitted from Syracuse).

What made me notice him were his stats at the Combine.

Vertical jump was 37.0" (2d among 12 PFs). Lane agility was 3d out of 12 (11.09 seconds). I think he was top three in just about every test.

He's 6'9" in shoes with a 7.0' wingspan.

He also showed well in the Combine scrimmages (video below).

He seems to be moving up, currently up to about late to mid-2d round.

He may not be there at 49 and the Spurs may think it a reach to take him at 29.

Nevertheless, he looks to have a lot of upside for a second round pick.

vL8N1QUjV2Q

[Blackhaus]

Athletic forward Darius Bazley could be another second round sleeper.

He's off the radar because he sat out what would have been his freshman year in college to prepare for the draft (he decommitted from Syracuse).

What made me notice him were his stats at the Combine.

Vertical jump was 37.0" (2d among 12 PFs). Lane agility was 3d out of 12 (11.09 seconds). I think he was top three in just about every test.

He's 6'9" in shoes with a 7.0' wingspan.

He also showed well in the Combine scrimmages (video below).

He seems to be moving up, currently up to about late to mid-2d round.

He may not be there at 49 and the Spurs may think it a reach to take him at 29.

Nevertheless, he looks to have a lot of upside for a second round pick.

vL8N1QUjV2Q

looks like a nice player

[look_at_g_shred]

They should have the combine scrimmages against actual NBA players.

[Degoat]

I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about Jordan Nwora, looks like he could be a decent 3 and D wing

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

They should have the combine scrimmages against actual NBA players.

That would actually be pretty easy to arrange I'd bet, and I agree, beneficial in judging these guys physically against an actual NBA player, even a recently retired one. There's a ton of ex-NBA stars (and non-stars) in that And-1 league. I'm sure recruiting a team of players to participate in the scrimmages would be pretty easy.

[duncan2150]

I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about Jordan Nwora, looks like he could be a decent 3 and D wing

The fact that he is injured and did not participate to the combine makes him a little bit under the radar.

[exstatic]

They should have the combine scrimmages against actual NBA players.

I think there are NCAA rules against that at official type events.

[cd021]

I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about Jordan Nwora, looks like he could be a decent 3 and D wing

Could be a really good option at 49, if available. Good 3 and D potential. Actually looks like he can do both out of the gate.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BBNation15/status/1131279231021924353

[ZeusWillJudge]

Athletic forward Darius Bazley could be another second round sleeper.

He's off the radar because he sat out what would have been his freshman year in college to prepare for the draft (he decommitted from Syracuse).



That was the kid who committed to Ohio State, then decommitted to Ohio State. Then committed to Syracuse, and decommitted to Syracuse because he said he was going to enter the G-League, and use that as his path to the NBA instead of college. Then he decommitted to the G-League, saying that he was going to train privately. He got one of those "internships" from someone like Gatorade or Nike or something. (The first one I heard of anyone getting.)

I think he's probably pretty damn good, and he knows it. But I have a feeling he may come with a lot of baggage. The kind of baggage I can't see Pop putting up with. But on sheer talent, he's probably an early second round or late first round bargain.

[Degoat]

That was the kid who committed to Ohio State, then decommitted to Ohio State. Then committed to Syracuse, and decommitted to Syracuse because he said he was going to enter the G-League, and use that as his path to the NBA instead of college. Then he decommitted to the G-League, saying that he was going to train privately. He got one of those "internships" from someone like Gatorade or Nike or something. (The first one I heard of anyone getting.)

I think he's probably pretty damn good, and he knows it. But I have a feeling he may come with a lot of baggage. The kind of baggage I can't see Pop putting up with. But on sheer talent, he's probably an early second round or late first round bargain.

He got an internship with New Balance, where I believe he got payed a pretty good sum of money, he’s represented by Clutch sports so Rich Paul and lebron lol

[BackHome]

Yeah he got paid big bucks lots of talent but just wants to make money the easy way will do the bare minimum to get by.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Yeah he got paid big bucks lots of talent but just wants to make money the easy way will do the bare minimum to get by.


I don't mind a kid getting paid. Hell, I'd do it if I had that kind of opportunity. I'm only talking about committing/decommitting three times. He could have just done his one year at Ohio State and he'd be right here, with a year of college ball under his belt.

[Chinook]

Feeling more than more like trading Poeltl should be on the table if they can use him to move up from 19. This is a REALLY interesting center class, and having Milutinov in the back pocket means they don't have to worry about losing a vet big. Move up to grab that coveted forward during the top half of the first and then take the best center available at 29. I'd be a shame to see them pass up the chance at snagging one of these guys because they're worried about a logjam on their roster.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Feeling more than more like trading Poeltl should be on the table if they can use him to move up from 19. This is a REALLY interesting center class, and having Milutinov in the back pocket means they don't have to worry about losing a vet big. Move up to grab that coveted forward during the top half of the first and then take the best center available at 29. I'd be a shame to see them pass up the chance at snagging one of these guys because they're worried about a logjam on their roster.


How far up do you think they could get if they offered Poeltl? And which of the coveted forwards that would still be there would you take?


I think Poeltl is just coming into his own. Like nearly all NBA C's, it takes a few years. I'd hate to give that up. But Milutinov has solid pro experience, and I think it's time for him to come over. So you have to consider it. Just wondering what you think they can get out of that move.

[look_at_g_shred]

I think A LOT of people underrate Poeltl. He's the perfect C to move forward with. Has all the intangibles, and always seems to be in the right spot. Yeah he has to work on being a better rebounder but he is far from a finished product. He has the skill to be in the league a long time. Get rid of him, and we'll be looking for the skills he has in a player for a while.

[RiverwalkParade]

No to trading Poeltl

[Chinook]

How far up do you think they could get if they offered Poeltl? And which of the coveted forwards that would still be there would you take?


I think Poeltl is just coming into his own. Like nearly all NBA C's, it takes a few years. I'd hate to give that up. But Milutinov has solid pro experience, and I think it's time for him to come over. So you have to consider it. Just wondering what you think they can get out of that move.

Gotta spend money to make money. If the goal is just to have 15 "good players", then holding onto all the you guys and never making a move using them is a viable strategy. If the goal is to get two or three blue-chip prospects to put around Aldridge and DeRozan or to get a third star to compliment those guys, then you gotta start distilling the many "good players" into better ones.

As far as your question, I am not sure. I don't know if they can get or who'd they want. Maybe they could get up to 11-13 by combining Poeltl with 19, or maybe they could get 20 straight up for him and then use 20 and 19 to move up. As for who they like, I have no idea. I've never claimed to be in PATFO's head, and I trust that if they like a prospect enough to move up for him that he's worth it.

Trading Poeltl has a lot of benefits. It saves money for next summer, because they would have Milutinov's contract and whatever contract the rookie C has rather than Jakob's cap hold. Assuming Milutinov signs for something like $10M/3, it would reduce the team's cap obligation by $7 Million. That might be enough to open a max slot.

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=12533868135ce6c5487578b429853364

That's a rough sketch of what the cap situation could look like next summer with a Poeltl trade.

Roster going into 2020 free agency:

Murray (cap hold)/White
Walker/"Second Round Guard"(Norvell, Herro)
DeRozan/"Second Round Wing"(2020 pick, so no idea)
"Impact Forward" (Hachimura or Reddish)/Metu
Aldridge/Milutinov/"Replacement Center"(Kabengele or Claxton)

Remaining cap space: $32 Million
Room under tax: $64 Million

That's 11 spots already filled with an easy ability to get a few more million to get a full max or to use some of that salary to bring back guys.

[Dejounte]

We finally find the center we have been looking for in a decade and you want to trade him away?

And lol at the thought of Milutonov. I doubt the Spurs have looked at him as an option since last year. People need to give up on him. Theres no smoke there whatsoever.

[mo7888]

I don't think milutinov ever comes over. I'm not against trading poeltl (or Murray or white for that matter) if it gets us something we really want. If some package could get us hunter or reddish then I'd be all over it but I wouldn't trade him just to clear space next summer and I don't think any of those guys are available at 11-13. Atlanta might have an interest though and reddish could be in their range. If we want to get higher than that then I'd think Aldridge would be part of a package with LA.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Gotta spend money to make money. If the goal is just to have 15 "good players", then holding onto all the you guys and never making a move using them is a viable strategy. If the goal is to get two or three blue-chip prospects to put around Aldridge and DeRozan or to get a third star to compliment those guys, then you gotta start distilling the many "good players" into better ones.

As far as your question, I am not sure. I don't know if they can get or who'd they want. Maybe they could get up to 11-13 by combining Poeltl with 19, or maybe they could get 20 straight up for him and then use 20 and 19 to move up. As for who they like, I have no idea. I've never claimed to be in PATFO's head, and I trust that if they like a prospect enough to move up for him that he's worth it.

Trading Poeltl has a lot of benefits. It saves money for next summer, because they would have Milutinov's contract and whatever contract the rookie C has rather than Jakob's cap hold. Assuming Milutinov signs for something like $10M/3, it would reduce the team's cap obligation by $7 Million. That might be enough to open a max slot.

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=12533868135ce6c5487578b429853364

That's a rough sketch of what the cap situation could look like next summer with a Poeltl trade.

Roster going into 2020 free agency:

Murray (cap hold)/White
Walker/"Second Round Guard"(Norvell, Herro)
DeRozan/"Second Round Wing"(2020 pick, so no idea)
"Impact Forward" (Hachimura or Reddish)/Metu
Aldridge/Milutinov/"Replacement Center"(Kabengele or Claxton)

Remaining cap space: $32 Million
Room under tax: $64 Million

That's 11 spots already filled with an easy ability to get a few more million to get a full max or to use some of that salary to bring back guys.


So you think the Spurs should trade Poeltl to snag a "coveted forward". In the other thread, you say that it should be a 6'8" or better PF. When I ask you how high they could trade up by using Poeltl, you say 11-13, but when I ask for a name you've got nothing? I don't expect you to be in PATFO's head - I want to know what you had in mind for trading Poeltl.

It can't be that long of a list. A 6'8" or better PF, not likely to be taken in the first 6-7 slots, because the Spurs can't get there. But also not likely to still be there at 19, or they wouldn't need to trade Poeltl. There cant be that many. So who did you have in mind?

[TD 21]

Feeling more than more like trading Poeltl should be on the table if they can use him to move up from 19. This is a REALLY interesting center class, and having Milutinov in the back pocket means they don't have to worry about losing a vet big. Move up to grab that coveted forward during the top half of the first and then take the best center available at 29. I'd be a shame to see them pass up the chance at snagging one of these guys because they're worried about a logjam on their roster.

I'm not opposed in theory. But in reality, Poeltl has limited value because of his position being oversaturated (maybe the Hornets at 12 could have interest). Also, Milutinov is not as good of a prospect. Sure, he'll fill a similar role, but he lacks the mobility to be a 20-25 mpg player.

Besides, 11-13 is a range they might be able to get to with 19, 29 and maybe Forbes. Even if it's slightly lower, the exact pick doesn't matter as much as whoever they covet being available. In that case, they'd be better off keeping Poeltl because he'll likely end up more valuable than the 29th pick.

[slick'81]

I'm not opposed in theory. But in reality, Poeltl has limited value because of his position being oversaturated (maybe the Hornets at 12 could have interest). Also, Milutinov is not as good of a prospect. Sure, he'll fill a similar role, but he lacks the mobility to be a 20-25 mpg player.

Besides, 11-13 is a range they might be able to get to with 19, 29 and maybe Forbes. Even if it's slightly lower, the exact pick doesn't matter as much as whoever they covet being available. In that case, they'd be better off keeping Poeltl because he'll likely end up more valuable than the 29th pick.


Exactly poodle aint fetching us shit

[acoelho1]

The question is does PAFTO see anyone in the latter part of the lottery that moves the needle. I'm willing to trade anyone not named Murray, Walker or White.

[mo7888]

Windhorst (who is tied to lebron as a reporter) just asked if the Lakers would be willing to trade the #4 for DDR because the spurs may not want to extend DDR.

[Degoat]

Windhorst (who is tied to lebron as a reporter) just asked if the Lakers would be willing to trade the #4 for DDR because the spurs may not want to extend DDR.

where did you hear that?

[mo7888]

He was ESPN about 10 minutes ago

[Degoat]

He was ESPN about 10 minutes ago

hmmm interesting, I highly doubt we consider trading him but none the less if he wants an extension and spurs see him just playing out his current deal there could be some problems brewing

[mo7888]

hmmm interesting, I highly doubt we consider trading him but none the less if he wants an extension and spurs see him just playing out his current deal there could be some problems brewing

I pretty much agree with that. I also figure that beal would be a target in front of DDR but, they don't have a GM right now so the timing could be interesting. Personally, if I could turn DDR into #4 (hunter) I'm all over it.

[FkLA]

LA might be the only place I can see Pop trading DeMar to, since it's home for him and he'd be happy about it instead of getting depressed. He'd probably have a mental breakdown it if he was traded to any other place and I don't think Pop has it in him to do that to such a fragile guy.

I'd do it for the #4 pick, tbh.

[Mugen]

LA might be the only place I can see Pop trading DeMar to, since it's home for him and he'd be happy about it instead of getting depressed. He'd probably have a mental breakdown it if he was traded to any other place and I don't think Pop has it in him to do that to such a fragile guy.

I'd do it for the #4 pick, tbh.

There hasn't been a single night since last week where I didn't pray for Pelinka & Co. to be dumb enough to trade #4 for Demar.

[BillMc]

LA might be the only place I can see Pop trading DeMar to, since it's home for him and he'd be happy about it instead of getting depressed. He'd probably have a mental breakdown it if he was traded to any other place and I don't think Pop has it in him to do that to such a fragile guy.

I'd do it for the #4 pick, tbh.

I think DeMar would a very good third option. By the last year of LeBron's contract, he could be paired with DeMar and AD, and still keep the best of thee Laker's kids. Wonder if the Spurs would want to contribute to that? It depends on who is there at 4.

[Russ]

It depends on who is there at 4.

I think who is there at 4 is pretty much locked in stone -- anyone other than Zion, Ja and RJ.

Interesting that the Lakers might want DDR -- they always talk about surrounding LeBron with shooters. Could it be they're just desperate to add a "name" to their roster regardless of fit?

[Realdeal1]

I like derozan but I'd pull the trigger for the 4th pick

[NASpurs]

For a hometown product and probably looking to make some kind of splash to take the bad taste out of their mouths, they might be stupid enough to do it.

[slick'81]

No way lakers want derozan

[r0drig0lac]

No way lakers want derozan

[bluebellmaniac]

No way lakers want derozan

They are the Lakers. The worst FO in the league right now. They earn $500M a year in cable rights for their games. They need to get star power quick and win some games. DDR does that. It's the bigger financial picture they're looking at. They don't want that fountain of money to be turned down or turned off.

[Ocotillo]

If there is anything to that Windhorst blurb, any chance we can get one of the young players thrown in as well?

[mo7888]

If there is anything to that Windhorst blurb, any chance we can get one of the young players thrown in as well?

I doubt it. I would think they'll try and find a way to package them for another player.

[cd021]

I like derozan but I'd pull the trigger for the 4th pick
Yeah, I don't think PATFO would turn that down if offered. Spurs could still be a playoff team and also have 3 picks to build for the post Pop era.

[cjw]

There hasn't been a single night since last week where I didn't pray for Pelinka & Co. to be dumb enough to trade #4 for Demar.

I’d take anything inside the top 7-8 for Demar, as it likely means clearing out the books in the summer of 2020. Tons of flexibility.

Lakers could trade down and recoup a future pick and get Demar.

[BackHome]

I think this might happen I think DEROZZ would like to go back home and would be great
PR for the Flakers and even for the Spurs helping out a good guy get back to La La land. Oh and it would be another jab at KY shipping his ass of to Toronto lol

[BWS-1994]

How would the salaries match with the dream DDR trade?

[Dejounte]

DeMar is not getting traded after Pop has explicitly told him they traded for him because they wanted him, not because they wanted to get rid of Kawhi. That would look really bad

[FkLA]

DeMar is not getting traded after Pop has explicitly told him they traded for him because they wanted him, not because they wanted to get rid of Kawhi. That would look really bad

Not really. I'm sure DeMar would give this particular trade his blessing. Any other trade that wouldn't send him to LA, I'd agree with you.

[RC_Drunkford]

The Lakers been wanting DeRozan for years. Before he extended his contract with the Raptors there were rumors of the Lakers going after him. I'd love to trade him for the 4th. That would give us plenty of cap space to go after solid free agents. I'm not sure if Pop would ever deal with the Lakers though

[slick'81]

Yea wake me up when we get that #4 for demar

[NASpurs]

The Lakers been wanting DeRozan for years. Before he extended his contract with the Raptors there were rumors of the Lakers going after him. I'd love to trade him for the 4th. That would give us plenty of cap space to go after solid free agents. I'm not sure if Pop would ever deal with the Lakers though

He would never deal with them for a game changer like Kawhi but for a loser like DeMar? He better pick up that phone.

[RC_Drunkford]

He would never deal with them for a game changer like Kawhi but for a loser like DeMar? He better pick up that phone.

Yeah would kill 2 birds with one stone tbh. Lakers would be stuck with DeRozan and 35 year old LeBron. Add Lonzo and there's no shooting at all in the back court :lol

[Kurgan]

Ship his ass out asap before the Lakers change their mind.

[cd021]

Yeah would kill 2 birds with one stone tbh. Lakers would be stuck with DeRozan and 35 year old LeBron. Add Lonzo and there's no shooting at all in the back court :lol

The brick brother's :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

The brick brother's :lol

would be amazing to watch:lmao

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Yeah, I don't think PATFO would turn that down if offered. Spurs could still be a playoff team and also have 3 picks to build for the post Pop era.

I know a lot of folks don’t like DeRozan’s game but do people really think if we trade him for a draft pick that we would still be a playoff team? Lol. Really?

Wow it’s a lot of delusional folks on this site. If we trade him barring injuries to a lot of western conference teams there is no way we make the playoffs

[exstatic]

DeMar is not getting traded after Pop has explicitly told him they traded for him because they wanted him, not because they wanted to get rid of Kawhi. That would look really bad

:lol When did he say that? Link?

[BillMc]

I know a lot of folks don’t like DeRozan’s game but do people really think if we trade him for a draft pick that we would still be a playoff team? Lol. Really?

Wow it’s a lot of delusional folks on this site. If we trade him barring injuries to a lot of western conference teams there is no way we make the playoffs

We were a playoff team with just LMA the year before. Sure the West might be tougher, but hopefully the return of DJ and continued improvement of White and others would get us in.

[exstatic]

I know a lot of folks don’t like DeRozan’s game but do people really think if we trade him for a draft pick that we would still be a playoff team? Lol. Really?

Wow it’s a lot of delusional folks on this site. If we trade him barring injuries to a lot of western conference teams there is no way we make the playoffs

We were a playoff team with LaMarcus and a LOT worse cast last year.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

We were a playoff team with LaMarcus and a LOT worse cast last year.

Stop!

teams are consistently getting better each season and this season getting into the playoffs was even harder than last year to do. A lot of teams barring injuries will be better like the Lakers, Kings, and even Dallas is going to be better.

Like i stated in the Demar trade thread if we trade Demar then they should move Aldridge and start the rebuild in my opinion.

I would be fine with starting an all out rebuild instead of being in no mans land and just barely missing the playoffs

[Strategic]

I’d even be with throwing in a sharp shooter, say Patty Mills.

[exstatic]

Stop!

teams are consistently getting better each season and this season getting into the playoffs was even harder than last year to do. A lot of teams barring injuries will be better like the Lakers, Kings, and even Dallas is going to be better.

Like i stated in the Demar trade thread if we trade Demar then they should move Aldridge and start the rebuild in my opinion.

I would be fine with starting an all out rebuild instead of being in no mans land and just barely missing the playoffs

And yet, the Spurs make the playoffs, year after year. Sacto is fools gold, and Dallas is a couple of years away. The Lakers are a dumpster fire, although they'd be better than last year with DD.

You act like the Spurs won't improve. Each of our young guards will be one year more experienced, and we'd be bringing in, very likely if the trade goes down, a top notch young SF with the #4 pick.

[kobyz]

It's just a smoke screen, Lakers after Bradley Beal with the 4th pick..

[RiverwalkParade]

4, 19, 29. Great re-building blocks. Move Aldridge and package picks to move up and then you’re really talking. Say to Boston for 14. Package 14 and 19 to ATL for 8.

4, 8, 29 even better

[Chinook]

4, 19, 29. Great re-building blocks. Move Aldridge and package picks to move up and then you’re really talking. Say to Boston for 14. Package 14 and 19 to ATL for 8.

4, 8, 29 even better

Honestly, I'd just stop at the DMDR trade. Murray/White/Hunter/Gay/Aldridge should still be a playoff team. Then you can try to trade Mills and 29 for an expiring and use 19 on a forward. Then the bench is Forbes/Walker/Beli/Bertans/Poeltl, and that should also be a good unit. Worst comes to worst, you trade LMA during the season for more future assets or just cut him after the year. There's no point in having too many rookies at one time. Plus, ATL wouldn't do that 14/19-for-8 trade. They have too many picks already. Maybe Washington would do 9. But 14 and 29 might be enough to grab whomever they want anyway.

[mo7888]

Honestly, I'd just stop at the DMDR trade. Murray/White/Hunter/Gay/Aldridge should still be a playoff team. Then you can try to trade Mills and 29 for an expiring and use 19 on a forward. Then the bench is Forbes/Walker/Beli/Bertans/Poeltl, and that should also be a good unit. Worst comes to worst, you trade LMA during the season for more future assets or just cut him after the year. There's no point in having too many rookies at one time. Plus, ATL wouldn't do that 14/19-for-8 trade. They have too many picks already. Maybe Washington would do 9. But 14 and 29 might be enough to grab whomever they want anyway.

Absolutely. Having LMA on the team gives us a watchable floor and allows those rookies to avoid getting used to losing. It's a win-win.

[Chinook]

So you think the Spurs should trade Poeltl to snag a "coveted forward". In the other thread, you say that it should be a 6'8" or better PF. When I ask you how high they could trade up by using Poeltl, you say 11-13, but when I ask for a name you've got nothing? I don't expect you to be in PATFO's head - I want to know what you had in mind for trading Poeltl.

It can't be that long of a list. A 6'8" or better PF, not likely to be taken in the first 6-7 slots, because the Spurs can't get there. But also not likely to still be there at 19, or they wouldn't need to trade Poeltl. There cant be that many. So who did you have in mind?

I don't think it makes much sense to narrow the list. I don't want the Spurs to trade up to 11 to pick any guy I like. I want them to like a guy enough to want to trade up to 11 and to be able to do so. Ultimately, I trust PATFO's ability to scout and evaluate talent way more than I just my own YouTube-inspired takes. Like I don't care about Doumbouya, but if PATFO moved up for him, I'd be really intrigued. Same with Hachimura, Little, Reddish, or Hunter. I think Clarke is a uber talent in the class, but I'd prefer the Spurs not trade Poeltl for Clarke, draft another center at 29 and use the MLE on yet another center. That's way too many resources being used for the same type of player.

My main point in this thread is that moving Poeltl and replacing him with Milutinov and a draft pick is the most sensible way to move up. There's a ready-made contingency plan in place for Jakob's departure, and it makes it possible to add a max player to a Murray/White/Walker/DeRozan/Aldridge/"Coveted Forward" core. If the goal is to try to win a title, this is easily the fastest way to give the Spurs a legit shot at it.

[JeffDuncan]

I’d even be with throwing in a sharp shooter, say Patty Mills.

I could get onboard with that. Special, this week only, buy a DDR and get a free wombat!

[JeffDuncan]

...

My main point in this thread is that moving Poeltl and replacing him with Milutinov and a draft pick is the most sensible way to move up. There's a ready-made contingency plan in place for Jakob's departure, and it makes it possible to add a max player to a Murray/White/Walker/DeRozan/Aldridge/"Coveted Forward" core. If the goal is to try to win a title, this is easily the fastest way to give the Spurs a legit shot at it.

The fastest way to get a legit shot at the title is to dump Poeltl, and replace him with that slug Milutinov and a draft pick. You say.

Or has something gone wrong with my eyes? Nobody would really write that. Yes, it must be my eyes. I need to call my optometrist.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

And yet, the Spurs make the playoffs, year after year. Sacto is fools gold, and Dallas is a couple of years away. The Lakers are a dumpster fire, although they'd be better than last year with DD.

You act like the Spurs won't improve. Each of our young guards will be one year more experienced, and we'd be bringing in, very likely if the trade goes down, a top notch young SF with the #4 pick.

I’m one of the few on here that has consistently said I’m excited to see the improvement of our young guys but I’m realistic. i feel it’s a lot easier to bring along the young players if you have people that is familiar with the system, coaching staff and the pressure of being expected to win and compete at a high level.

I’m pretty sure if Demar is traded the front office is going to want a veteran back or have their eye on a veteran via free agency to help stay competitive and help the young players.

[exstatic]

I’m one of the few on here that has consistently said I’m excited to see the improvement of our young guys but I’m realistic. i feel it’s a lot easier to bring along the young players if you have people that is familiar with the system, coaching staff and the pressure of being expected to win and compete at a high level.

I’m pretty sure if Demar is traded the front office is going to want a veteran back or have their eye on a veteran via free agency to help stay competitive and help the young players.

Well, that trade would create a HUGE trade exception. Those last for a full year and can be quite useful, either to get an expensive asset, or take on a garbage contract or two, coupled with draft pick assets.

[exstatic]

I’m one of the few on here that has consistently said I’m excited to see the improvement of our young guys but I’m realistic. i feel it’s a lot easier to bring along the young players if you have people that is familiar with the system, coaching staff and the pressure of being expected to win and compete at a high level.

I’m pretty sure if Demar is traded the front office is going to want a veteran back or have their eye on a veteran via free agency to help stay competitive and help the young players.

Lonnie would really be the only one of the three still learning the system. Both of the others did a year in Austin, and then were Spurs starters.

[Chinook]

The fastest way to get a legit shot at the title is to dump Poeltl, and replace him with that slug Milutinov and a draft pick. You say.

Or has something gone wrong with my eyes? Nobody would really write that. Yes, it must be my eyes. I need to call my optometrist.

Yes. Do you have a better way?

[rjv]

i'd have to wonder if gay would stay should the spurs ship out demar. and if he left, then i think the spurs would have to consider trading aldridge also. but i seriously doubt LA will trade their 4th if they can't use it to get davis. but then who the hell knows what the hell LA is doing nowadays?

[RC_Drunkford]

If you can trade DeRozan for #4 Spurs would have about 30 million in salary cap. I'd immediately go after Julius Randle. The guy is only 24 and averaged 21.4/8.7/3.1 and is working hard on his 3-point shot (shot 35% last season). If you want a Diaw/Draymond type player he's the one to go after. You'd also have something like 10 million in salary left to resign Gay or you move Belinelli/Bertans and go after a Bojan Bogdanovic, Marcus Morris type player. That is a better team than last years with a lot of youth and way better D.

I would keep Aldridge around and see how the young guys develop. Spurs got Forbes/Belinelli/Bertans expiring so they could be able to get a nice deal or pick out of those 3 at the deadline. Then after the season Aldridge's contract is only guaranteed for 7 million, meaning you might be able to package him in a trade for another young long term asset.

[BackHome]

If you can trade DeRozan for #4 Spurs would have about 30 million in salary cap. I'd immediately go after Julius Randle. The guy is only 24 and averaged 21.4/8.7/3.1 and is working hard on his 3-point shot (shot 35% last season). If you want a Diaw/Draymond type player he's the one to go after. You'd also have something like 10 million in salary left to resign Gay or you move Belinelli/Bertans and go after a Bojan Bogdanovic, Marcus Morris type player. That is a better team than last years with a lot of youth and way better D.

I would keep Aldridge around and see how the young guys develop. Spurs got Forbes/Belinelli/Bertans expiring so they could be able to get a nice deal or pick out of those 3 at the deadline. Then after the season Aldridge's contract is only guaranteed for 7 million, meaning you might be able to package him in a trade for another young long term asset.

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[Realdeal1]

If you can trade DeRozan for #4 Spurs would have about 30 million in salary cap. I'd immediately go after Julius Randle. The guy is only 24 and averaged 21.4/8.7/3.1 and is working hard on his 3-point shot (shot 35% last season). If you want a Diaw/Draymond type player he's the one to go after. You'd also have something like 10 million in salary left to resign Gay or you move Belinelli/Bertans and go after a Bojan Bogdanovic, Marcus Morris type player. That is a better team than last years with a lot of youth and way better D.

I would keep Aldridge around and see how the young guys develop. Spurs got Forbes/Belinelli/Bertans expiring so they could be able to get a nice deal or pick out of those 3 at the deadline. Then after the season Aldridge's contract is only guaranteed for 7 million, meaning you might be able to package him in a trade for another young long term asset.


And who would you want the Spurs to draft with the 4th pick?

[cd021]

And who would you want the Spurs to draft with the 4th pick?

Hunter would be ideal.

[BackHome]

That would be sweet;
1. Hunter at 4
2. Claxton at 19
3. Luka or Okeke at 29

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1132337452599918593

[acoelho1]

I don't think it makes much sense to narrow the list. I don't want the Spurs to trade up to 11 to pick any guy I like. I want them to like a guy enough to want to trade up to 11 and to be able to do so. Ultimately, I trust PATFO's ability to scout and evaluate talent way more than I just my own YouTube-inspired takes. Like I don't care about Doumbouya, but if PATFO moved up for him, I'd be really intrigued. Same with Hachimura, Little, Reddish, or Hunter. I think Clarke is a uber talent in the class, but I'd prefer the Spurs not trade Poeltl for Clarke, draft another center at 29 and use the MLE on yet another center. That's way too many resources being used for the same type of player.

History has shown us with the Leonard draft day trade that PAFTO would make such a move if they really like someone. Hill was valued within the team but they knew a strong wing was needed. I think we are in a similar boat this time but we have more young talent in the stables. There is a lot of intriguing players out there and I won't begin to play GM but we need to add some toughness on defense, preferably at both forwards spot.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1132337452599918593

Interesting, Matthews is for sure a good defender but not good offensively. If he can shoot he could be a target for the spurs.

[RC_Drunkford]

Hunter would be ideal.

Obviously

[cd021]

Interesting, Matthews is for sure a good defender but not good offensively. If he can shoot he could be a target for the spurs.

Yeah, quick look at his stats show he is both a poor FT and 3pt shooter. May go undrafted though so the Spurs could get him that way.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I don't think it makes much sense to narrow the list. I don't want the Spurs to trade up to 11 to pick any guy I like. I want them to like a guy enough to want to trade up to 11 and to be able to do so. Ultimately, I trust PATFO's ability to scout and evaluate talent way more than I just my own YouTube-inspired takes. Like I don't care about Doumbouya, but if PATFO moved up for him, I'd be really intrigued. Same with Hachimura, Little, Reddish, or Hunter. I think Clarke is a uber talent in the class, but I'd prefer the Spurs not trade Poeltl for Clarke, draft another center at 29 and use the MLE on yet another center. That's way too many resources being used for the same type of player.

My main point in this thread is that moving Poeltl and replacing him with Milutinov and a draft pick is the most sensible way to move up. There's a ready-made contingency plan in place for Jakob's departure, and it makes it possible to add a max player to a Murray/White/Walker/DeRozan/Aldridge/"Coveted Forward" core. If the goal is to try to win a title, this is easily the fastest way to give the Spurs a legit shot at it.


There's no way they can trade Poeltl and get high enough to get Hunter or Reddish. You know it, everybody here knows it.

Your point is to trade Poeltl for a "coveted forward", but you won't commit to who YOU had in mind. You would be "intrigued" if they sacrificed Poeltl to take Doumbouya, Hachimura, or Little. Got it.

[Chinook]

There's no way they can trade Poeltl and get high enough to get Hunter or Reddish. You know it, everybody here knows it.

Your point is to trade Poeltl for a "coveted forward", but you won't commit to who YOU had in mind. You would be "intrigued" if they sacrificed Poeltl to take Doumbouya, Hachimura, or Little. Got it.

Again, I don't care. It's not about "committing". They could draft anyone and I'd think "Well that guy must be worth it." There's no upside to me picking. I do not care. I don't watch college basketball. I look at some stats and measurements and go "That sounds interesting," but I have no investment in that take. I just defer to the Spurs' track record. It's so weird that you seem to think that's me dodging. I've never been shy about saying I support certain players or targets.

It's also weird to portray a Poeltl trade as a "sacrifice". It suggests that trades are about getting rid of guys rather than getting them. It's not a punishment to get traded, and you don't only trade bad players.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1132632835842551808

[ceperez]

Spurs 2nd round pick: https://www.nbadraft.net/players/tyus-battle . Tyrus Battle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=fMSJxgGOlKk

[barakz21]

Maybe it’s just me, but for some reason most if not all PF’s in this draft are 6’7-6’8, tallest one iirc is 6’9. Curious if that’s simply because these players are “done” growing height wise, or if this is the attempt to adapt their games to the modern NBA?

[K...]

wouldn't the spurs likely ship 19 to LAL, in this hypothetical swap for deroz and 4rth?

[Degoat]

This is gonna be the strangest draft ever lol after the top 5 guys get picked it’s pretty much a free for all. It’s gonna be really interesting how it all plays out

[Gordy58]

We need to go PF and Wing with our picks and maybe take a stash at 49.
I compiled my own unorganized Big Board of players I would personally like the Spurs to target and with which pick. Mostly Wings and Bigmen.
Dylan Windler 29th
Sekou Doumbouya 19th(Lottery Talent)
KZ Okpala 19th and 29th
Kevin Porter 19th(Lottery Talent)
Keldon Johnson 19th and 29th(Lottery Talent)
Matisse Thybulle 29th
Cameron Johnson 19th and 29th
Talen Horton-Tucker 29th
Admiral Schofield 2nd round
Louis King 29th
Luka Samanic 19th and 29th
Eric Paschall 29th 2nd round
PJ Washington 19th and 29th(Lottery Talent)
Grant Williams 19th and 29th
Nassir Little 19th(Lottery Talent)
Isaiah Roby 29th and 2nd round
Cameron Reddish 19th(Lottery Talent)
Darius Bazley 29th
Ignas Brazdeikis 2nd round
Chuma Okeke 29th
Nickeil Alexander-Walker 19th
Kerwin Roach - 2nd Round
Jalen Lecque - 2nd Round
Rui Hachimura - 19th(Lottery Talent)
Brandon Clarke - 19th(Lottery Talent)




Bol Bol 19th(Lottery Talent)
Goga Bitadze 19th and 29th
Mfioundu Kabengele 19th and 29th
Neemius Queta 29th and 2nd round
Nicholas Claxton 29th and 2nd round

[palangi]

Why do we need a PF. We have...
Aldridge
Bertans
Metu
All under contract.
And could resign Rudy Gay

[Gordy58]

Why do we need a PF. We have...
Aldridge
Bertans
Metu
All under contract.
And could resign Rudy Gay
Aldridge is not in the spurs long term plans, Rudy either, Bertans is more of a specialist, Metu is a still extremely raw.

[Degoat]

We definitely need SF/PF types, guards were good at, and LA and Jakob will duty the center position most of the time

[palangi]

Aldridge is not in the spurs long term plans, Rudy either, Bertans is more of a specialist, Metu is a still extremely raw.

I can see that. But I don't think this year it is a need.

A wing or SF is definitely a need

[Degoat]

Question for y’all.... would y’all be pissed if spurs selected Chuma Okeke with the 19th pick? I know he tore his ACL but he’s exactly what we need, it’s not like pop plays rookies anyways in their first season. Reason I ask is I don’t think he’ll be available with are 29th pick, I think some team will take a chance on him similar to Michael porter jr in last years draft

[Gordy58]

I can see that. But I don't think this year it is a need.

A wing or SF is definitely a need
Agreed, but let’s say Bol Bol or even Goga falls right to them, do they take the chance? I’d hope so

[timvp]

Question for y’all.... would y’all be pissed if spurs selected Chuma Okeke with the 19th pick? I know he tore his ACL but he’s exactly what we need, it’s not like pop plays rookies anyways in their first season. Reason I ask is I don’t think he’ll be available with are 29th pick, I think some team will take a chance on him similar to Michael porter jr in last years draft

I wouldn't be mad. That'd mean the Spurs really, really like him and see him as a long-term fit at SF. Missing his rookie season due to injury isn't a big deal in the big picture.

[Gordy58]

Question for y’all.... would y’all be pissed if spurs selected Chuma Okeke with the 19th pick? I know he tore his ACL but he’s exactly what we need, it’s not like pop plays rookies anyways in their first season. Reason I ask is I don’t think he’ll be available with are 29th pick, I think some team will take a chance on him similar to Michael porter jr in last years draft might be a little pissed but i think he’ll be there at 29th considering most of the teams picking in that area might want to select players that can possibly help them right away.

[Gordy58]

This draft has a good amount of 6’7-6’8 wings, I’m confident we’ll make the right selection.

[duncan2150]

Imo we need 3-4-5 positions.

For okeke why not if the spurs really like him but i prefer taking him at 29

[ace3g]

HoopsHype has been tracking all player's workouts:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/05/07/nba-pre-draft-workouts-prospects/



San Antonio



Brandon Clarke
SF
Gonzaga
Junior
15

Nic Claxton
SF
Georgia St.
Sophomore
36

Isaiah Roby
SF
Nebraska
Junior
46

Amir Coffey
SG
Minnesota
Junior
NR

D'Marcus Simonds
SG
Georgia St.
Junior

EJ Montgomery
PF
Kentucky
Freshman

Harry Froling
C
Adelaide 36ers (Australia)
1998

Jalen Pickett
SG
Siena
Freshman

Jeremiah Martin
PG
Memphis
Senior

Kerry Blackshear
PF
Virginia Tech
Junior

Obi Toppin
PF
Dayton
Freshman

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status/1133453700834385920

[look_at_g_shred]

HoopsHype has been tracking all player's workouts:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/05/07/nba-pre-draft-workouts-prospects/



San Antonio



Brandon Clarke
SF
Gonzaga
Junior
15

Nic Claxton
SF
Georgia St.
Sophomore
36

Isaiah Roby
SF
Nebraska
Junior
46

Amir Coffey
SG
Minnesota
Junior
NR

D'Marcus Simonds
SG
Georgia St.
Junior

EJ Montgomery
PF
Kentucky
Freshman

Harry Froling
C
Adelaide 36ers (Australia)
1998

Jalen Pickett
SG
Siena
Freshman

Jeremiah Martin
PG
Memphis
Senior

Kerry Blackshear
PF
Virginia Tech
Junior

Obi Toppin
PF
Dayton
Freshman

Didn’t we recently workout Porter Jr?

[barakz21]

HoopsHype has been tracking all player's workouts:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/05/07/nba-pre-draft-workouts-prospects/



San Antonio



Brandon Clarke
SF
Gonzaga
Junior
15

Nic Claxton
SF
Georgia St.
Sophomore
36

Isaiah Roby
SF
Nebraska
Junior
46

Amir Coffey
SG
Minnesota
Junior
NR

D'Marcus Simonds
SG
Georgia St.
Junior

EJ Montgomery
PF
Kentucky
Freshman

Harry Froling
C
Adelaide 36ers (Australia)
1998

Jalen Pickett
SG
Siena
Freshman

Jeremiah Martin
PG
Memphis
Senior

Kerry Blackshear
PF
Virginia Tech
Junior

Obi Toppin
PF
Dayton
Freshman


Man, I’m bummed Hachimura didn’t work out with the Spurs while Clarke did. Never watched college ball, but from everything I heard and read about, the latter would be a bad fit for the modern NBA. At least Hachimura has some
potential to be able to play the 3. That being said, hopefully they get Roby!

[DPG21920]

Man, I’m bummed Hachimura didn’t work out with the Spurs while Clarke did. Never watched college ball, but from everything I heard and read about, the latter would be a bad fit for the modern NBA. At least Hachimura has some
potential to be able to play the 3. That being said, hopefully they get Roby!

Spurs not working out a player you want is probably a good thing :lol. Trust me, there is enough floating around to substantiate this: SA really likes Rui.

[ace3g]

These are only reported workouts up to a certain point - and I'm sure not all workouts are public.

[ace3g]

Spurs not working out a player you want is probably a good thing :lol. Trust me, there is enough floating around to substantiate this: SA really likes Rui.

+ 1

[Fusternino]

Could see Kris Wilkes falling to 49 at this point, tbh.

[ace3g]

From a December 2018 B/R article:


Mark Few blew the final whistle on Gonzaga's basketball practice more than 20 minutes ago, but Rui Hachimura hasn't stopped shooting. Few, Gonzaga's head coach, has moved from the floor to the stands to talk with a scout from the San Antonio Spurs. And Hachimura, who'd been tipped off to the scout's attendance before practice, is giving the pair plenty to discuss.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2809276-rui-hachimura-is-home-at-last

[DPG21920]

I think if SA trades up it will be for him. Obviously if he falls to 19 that would be about as good as one could hope for, but they may try to trade up.

I really like his profile overall, but I do have some concerns. Evidently though he’s got a great work ethic which usually bodes well.

[Dejounte]

God no to Rui. Dude is going to bust hard.

[DPG21920]

God no to Rui. Dude is going to bust hard.

Has me worried some too, but I have heard enough good things to lean way more towards excited than scared. Plus, SA likes him.

[Degoat]

I was listening to the NBA ringer podcast the other day and two of the guys had Brandon Clarke going top 5 in the draft lol pretty crazy, I don’t think that’ll happen but I do think this draft is gonna be all over the place

[keithington1]

I see Spurs targeting NAW, Rui at 19. Maybe Horton Tucker, Keldon Johnson.

[FutureMan]

It would be beyond weird to see this team draft a single guard without getting rid of a couple of them.

[barakz21]

Spurs not working out a player you want is probably a good thing :lol. Trust me, there is enough floating around to substantiate this: SA really likes Rui.

Makes sense. I’m just not a fan of Clarke. Buuuuut, I guess you’re right. That being said, makes them kinda hard to read from a fan’s perspective. Or mine, at least. Does that mean them working out Roby means they’re not interested in him?

[DPG21920]

Makes sense. I’m just not a fan of Clarke. Buuuuut, I guess you’re right. That being said, makes them kinda hard to read from a fan’s perspective. Or mine, at least. Does that mean them working out Roby means they’re not interested in him?

No, it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but SA has drafted players they have not worked out before. But they do their due diligence.

They can work out someone and draft them and have before, but not working them out means very little is what I was saying.

[BackHome]

19 - Cam Johnson, Jordan Johnson, Luka, Kangle
29 - Roby, Okeke, Nic Claxton

[Dennis the Menace]

De’Andre Hunter, Nassir Little, Hachimura, Kevin Porter Jr

In that order.

I’d be willing to trade Derozan for Hunter.

And 19th, 29th+Belli,Forbes,Bertans for Little, Hachimura. Maybe Porter Jr too

[barakz21]

No, it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but SA has drafted players they have not worked out before. But they do their due diligence.

They can work out someone and draft them and have before, but not working them out means very little is what I was saying.

Yup, I got what you were saying. Just saying that it’s kinda misleading which isn’t exactly a bad thing as it’ll also throw off some other teams, but to be fair I’m probably just reading into stuff a lot more than in years past. Given the turmoil of the past offseason, I just hope everything falls into place and that they draft successfully.

[exstatic]

Interesting article from The Stepien:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/28/draft-notes-initiator-participator-finisher/

[ceperez]

Man, I’m bummed Hachimura didn’t work out with the Spurs while Clarke did. Never watched college ball, but from everything I heard and read about, the latter would be a bad fit for the modern NBA. At least Hachimura has some
potential to be able to play the 3. That being said, hopefully they get Roby!

Spurs usually don't work out the player that they really are coveting.

[barakz21]

Spurs usually don't work out the player that they really are coveting.

Yeah, DPG mentioned the same thing earlier. Never did pay that much attention to the names they’d draft, until draft. Given what happened this season, I’m just looking forward.. to being excited about this upcoming season

[BackHome]

I wonder if Walker makes the progress I think he does I think guys like Bertans and Forbes minutes will be severally reduced. What are your thoughts of the possibility of trading one of them for let’s say Nets 17, Philly 24, Celtics 22 teams that need 3 point shooting. With that trade I am looking at the followings -

17/19 - Cam Johnson SF
24/22 - Luka PF or Or Keldon Johnson SF/SG
29 - Okeke SF/PF, Nic Claxton PF/C, Roby SF/PF, Kabengele PF/C

[exstatic]

Another Stepien article from today:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/29/draft-notes-offense-defense-players/

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/jabarijyoung/status/1133846975353425921?s=12

#Spurs doing their due diligence over the last few days. Told front office officials and team scouts attended the Roc Nation Sports workouts to watch prospects like USC’s Kevin Porter Jr. and attended Wasserman’s workouts as well. All in Cali.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/jabarijyoung/status/1133846975353425921?s=12

#Spurs doing their due diligence over the last few days. Told front office officials and team scouts attended the Roc Nation Sports workouts to watch prospects like USC’s Kevin Porter Jr. and attended Wasserman’s workouts as well. All in Cali.

Wasserman has Luka Samanic

[Degoat]

Not that it probably matters but Dejounte is close friends with porter jr

[TD 21]

Has me worried some too, but I have heard enough good things to lean way more towards excited than scared. Plus, SA likes him.

Wouldn't surprise me (would if they didn't), but haven't actually heard that.

My sense is they'll try to trade into the late lottery for either Little (as I predicted, supposedly moving back into top 10 territory) or him.

The Heat at 13 could be a target. If they're not thrilled with anyone available or can get their target at 19, I wonder if they'd do 13 for 19, 49 and Forbes.

Obviously they wouldn't offer all 5, but between those 3 assets plus Bertans and 29, if the Spurs really want to go into that range, they can probably do it.

[DPG21920]

Wouldn't surprise me (would if they didn't), but haven't actually heard that.

My sense is they'll try to trade into the late lottery for either Little (as I predicted, supposedly moving back into top 10 territory) or him.

The Heat at 13 could be a target. If they're not thrilled with anyone available or can get their target at 19, I wonder if they'd do 13 for 19, 49 and Forbes.

Obviously they wouldn't offer all 5, but between those 3 assets plus Bertans and 29, if the Spurs really want to go into that range, they can probably do it.

I have heard it. Take it for what you will and I’m not claiming to have sauces, but I have heard by asking around where I can and from people that I trust that SA definitely has an interest in Rui.

To what degree? Not sure. Have not heard if they like him enough to trade assets to get him. But they have been scouting him and doing their due diligence and there are connections from the Spurs to Rui naturally as well.

But of course, they like others too. But from what I have heard, they like Rui and believe that his flaws are something they can shape and mold and turn into a really good player.

[Dennis the Menace]

I have heard it. Take it for what you will and I’m not claiming to have sauces, but I have heard by asking around where I can and from people that I trust that SA definitely has an interest in Rui.

To what degree? Not sure. Have not heard if they like him enough to trade assets to get him. But they have been scouting him and doing their due diligence and there are connections from the Spurs to Rui naturally as well.

But of course, they like others too. But from what I have heard, they like Rui and believe that his flaws are something they can shape and mold and turn into a really good player.

Hope they trade up for Little, Kevin Porter Jr, or Rui. Either of those 3 can be molded into cornerstone franchise players

[picnroll]

Spur should go all in to get Little. Defense is a given and offense has a lot of potential.

[Dennis the Menace]

Spur should go all in to get Little. Defense is a given and offense has a lot of potential.

Preach.

[DPG21920]

Spur should go all in to get Little. Defense is a given and offense has a lot of potential.

Yall need to understand though that SA can’t make other teams trade with them. Trading is hard and it’s not like people are excited about getting pummeled in a deal by SA :lol. SA has a lot of great relationships throughout the league but don’t think that if they don’t make a trade it’s because they were not trying/willing.

[Dejounte]

Little is garbage and is too small and talentless to be a Spurs cornerstone. Hell no!

[duncan2150]

I can see the spurs moving up for two guys : little or doumbouya.

I hope we’ll not trade up to have Rui but if he is there at 19 i’m Ok.

imo in this draft very few prospects are worth a trade

[FkLA]

Little is garbage and is too small and talentless to be a Spurs cornerstone. Hell no!

You hate Rui and Little. Who do you like?

[picnroll]

Yall need to understand though that SA can’t make other teams trade with them. Trading is hard and it’s not like people are excited about getting pummeled in a deal by SA :lol. SA has a lot of great relationships throughout the league but don’t think that if they don’t make a trade it’s because they were not trying/willing.

AGG, The Atlanric, ESPN, SI and NBAdraft.net have Little going anywhere from 9 to 17 with 3 at 11. Doesn't mean that’s where he’ll go but not inconceivable Spurs couldn't put a package together acceptable to them that they could get up that high. Depends on what they think of Little or any other player. If they're Leonard hot or him or any other player they have three picks this year, next years picks and some players to play with.

[DPG21920]

AGG, The Atlanric, ESPN, SI and NBAdraft.net have Little going anywhere from 9 to 11 with 3 at 11. Doesn't mean that’s where he’ll go but not inconceivable Spurs couldn't put a package together acceptable to them that they could get up that high. Depends on what they think of Little or any other player. If they're Leonard hot or him or any other player they have three picks this year, next years picks and some players to play with.

For sure - I’m saying SA will try. They can’t force teams to trade though.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1133567929864347649

[SpursBills]

I'm a pretty big believer in Ben Rubin at The Stepien and the way he approaches the draft. With the way the modern nba is trending, you need good decision makers at every position as well as positional versatility both offensively and defensively.

I'd target PJ washington at 19 and grant williams at 29; pj's long, has shooting that can translate, has a decent handle, and has a legitimate out to shift down to a big wing
williams also for two way ability, good passing ability out of the short roll and from the elbows, has a jumper that seems like it can translate, and is strong enough to make up for his deficiencies in wingspan

[Cardinal]

I'm a pretty big believer in Ben Rubin at The Stepien and the way he approaches the draft. With the way the modern nba is trending, you need good decision makers at every position as well as positional versatility both offensively and defensively.

I'd target PJ washington at 19 and grant williams at 29; pj's long, has shooting that can translate, has a decent handle, and has a legitimate out to shift down to a big wing
williams also for two way ability, good passing ability out of the short roll and from the elbows, has a jumper that seems like it can translate, and is strong enough to make up for his deficiencies in wingspan

I'm on board with Ben's analysis at The Stepien as well and I don't disagree with your assessments - but the Spurs will almost surely need to trade up if they want PJ Washington. He's going in the mid to late lottery. I would absolutely love to get Grant Williams at 29 - that would be excellent value and he may slip a bit due to his measurables.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1133567929864347649

If you or someone can post the entire article, you’re welcome ;)

[Cardinal]

If you or someone can post the entire article, you’re welcome ;)
ace3g Seconded :bobo

[Dejounte]

You hate Rui and Little. Who do you like?

Ive watched countless tape, and have continued to watch more tape as we get closer to the draft. My top 5 has evolved in the past month but my bottom 5 has been consistent because its easy to point out prospects that have major flaws and are overhyped. The main thing for me is feel for the game first (which is consistent with what the Spurs have drafted) and then physical attributes followed by character and passion for the game. Current top 5:

1. Samanic (his switchable defense is elite, approach to the game is Manu-like meaning he sees things few do in real time)
2. Bazley (his offensive repertoire is elite)
3. Roby (jack of all trades, older but still green. Great physical profile. Switchable defense)
4. PJ Washington (safest pick Spurs can make. Can have a Patrick Patterson type impact but better)
5. Grant Williams (total culture fit, team first on offense and can fit seamlessly in the offense )

I guarantee the Spurs WILL draft one of the players above.

Garbage bottom 5
99. Rui Hachitrash
100. Nassir Tiny
101. Tyler Herro
102. Admiral Schofield

[BackHome]

I don’t get Baz having having high character or passion for the game the dude signed his New Balance deal and did nothing this past year serious red flags but I get the rolling the dice thing. I would also add following.

1. Keldon Johnson - SF - Pop would love coaching this kid good on offense and defense is a true basketball player.
2. Cam Johnson SF - Has the heigh and length oh and is one of the best 3 pointer shooters
3. Mfiondo Kabengele - C/PF 6’10, 7’3 Wingspan - Big tough athletic who can hit the 3 quick twitch player but does need to get over himself.

[Fusternino]

Does Duombouya have new measurements out yet? Was always slightly concerned about the 6'11" wingspan. I think that was from when he was 18, though.

[FkLA]

Ive watched countless tape, and have continued to watch more tape as we get closer to the draft. My top 5 has evolved in the past month but my bottom 5 has been consistent because its easy to point out prospects that have major flaws and are overhyped. The main thing for me is feel for the game first (which is consistent with what the Spurs have drafted) and then physical attributes followed by character and passion for the game. Current top 5:

1. Samanic (his switchable defense is elite, approach to the game is Manu-like meaning he sees things few do in real time)
2. Bazley (his offensive repertoire is elite)
3. Roby (jack of all trades, older but still green. Great physical profile. Switchable defense)
4. PJ Washington (safest pick Spurs can make. Can have a Patrick Patterson type impact but better)
5. Grant Williams (total culture fit, team first on offense and can fit seamlessly in the offense )

I guarantee the Spurs WILL draft one of the players above.

Garbage bottom 5
99. Rui Hachitrash
100. Nassir Tiny
101. Tyler Herro
102. Admiral Schofield

Who are your top guys at 19 or if the Spurs move up though? There's no way you're saying that if all those guys (including your bottom 5) are there at 19 you take Samanic, right?!?

[Gordy58]

SAN ANTONIO — Imagine attempting to paint a picture with all the tools available, or at least most of them. The paintbrushes are there, the colors, the canvas. Even the space on the wall where the picture will hang has been arranged.
Once completed, the goal for this picture is to enter a contest, with the reward being a nice-sized gold trophy that will be celebrated forever.
The problem is there is no clear vision on how to create this masterpiece. And even when there is a blueprint on how to paint this picture, starting the process to complete it isn’t as simple as it appears to be. When it’s finished, there is no guarantee it will be contest-worthy, or at least not enough to make it to the final round of the competition.
“Sometimes the picture isn’t always pretty,” a Western Conference exec said.
“And sometimes the colors aren’t always available,” an Eastern Conference exec added.
Almost a month removed from the postseason, this is where the Spurs are currently standing — at the beginning stages of their offseason, trying to paint their picture to enter next season’s NBA contest with the hopes of capturing their sixth award: a Larry O’Brien Trophy to add to their championship display case.
The questions facing the Spurs are the same questions facing every other team. As they progress deeper into this offseason, they’ll need to figure out if their current picture — a 48-34 squad that finished seventh place in the Western Conference without the services of starting point guard Dejounte Murray — is good enough or if they’ll need to erase half the picture and add to the layers that seem to be standing out.
It’s probably safe to bet on the latter.
The first order of business to determine how to add to that picture is currently in progress with the NBA Draft process. The Spurs’ brass was present in Chicago last week and is now turning its attention to individual workouts at the team’s practice facility this week.
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/05/22160252/USATSI_12354650_168381809_lowres.jpgVillanova’s Eric Paschall (Vincent Carchietta / USA Today)




“We don’t control what happens ahead of you,” Spurs GM R.C. Buford told The Athletic. “There is still a lot left to be determined between now and June 20.”This is the philosophy the Spurs have lived by since June 25, 1997. That was the last day they controlled the draft and selected Tim Duncan, who has helped keep the Spurs from lottery territory for 19 years. It’s fair to say that pick was a high return on their investment.
But there is no Duncan in this 2019 class. Instead, this is what some like to consider a role-player draft. Outside of about four or five players, there isn’t much star talent. And picking at Nos. 19 and 29 in the first round, the Spurs understand this better than most.
They’ve done their homework with scouting intel and, again, they love high-character guys. There were a few names mentioned in this space that the Spurs interviewed and will interview in the coming weeks. As the Spurs try to keep their draft business in-house, a look around to identify so-called “Spurs players,” Tennessee’s Grant Williams continues to receive high praise from NBA scouts for his character.
There is a behind-the-scenes story surrounding Williams at the combine. He wasn’t supposed to play in the two scrimmages but insisted he would when chatting with an Eastern team.
Williams told the officials from this East squad: “I’m a player, and players play. I’m not scared of none of those dudes over there.” That was welcome news, as they wanted to see Williams play. Again, his character is impressive.
The Spurs are scheduled to work out Williams in the coming weeks in San Antonio. Another player on their workout radar: Villanova’s Eric Paschall.
The 6-foot-7 forward is being compared to Williams in this regard: He has the basketball smarts to excel as a pro. Paschall averaged 16.5 points and 6.1 rebounds in 36 games for the Wildcats in his senior season. The Athletic’s Sam Vecenie, who has Paschall ranked 35th on his draft board, notes, “Paschall is a strong, physical player with the ability to shoot it from distance and be something of a mismatch problem.”
You talk to NBA scouts around the league, and they concur. Having spent time under Wildcats coach Jay Wright, Paschall, 22, is viewed as a seasoned college player who knows how to play. Wright runs a team-oriented, disciplined system that demands his players play together and holds them accountable, which is why teams flock to his program, as they know Villanova has a reputation of developing players.
Sound like a familiar NBA organization?
Over the past two years, there have been a few steals out of Villanova: guard Josh Hart (drafted by Utah 30th overall in the 2017 draft and traded to the Los Angeles Lakers) and guard Jalen Brunson (selected 33rd overall by the Dallas Mavericks last season).
Paschall has won championships at Nova, so he understands what goes into winning; he plays hard and can be coached, according to those who have scouted him over the years.
“That’s why Eric has value in all facets,” a Western Conference scout told The Athletic. “Fundamentally sound, plays his role, and he knows what expected of him.”
“He’s a fucking basketball player,” another scout added. “You don’t play for Jay Wright by just coming down and jacking up jumpers. You’re going to shoot, and you’re going to defend.”
It’s here where the Spurs are at their best when painting this portion of their picture. They identify through scouting and then develop. But perhaps where they are at their best: They exhibit patience and look at all circumstances when evaluating talent.
For an example of this, flashback to Tony Parker’s workout in 2001. It’s well-known Parker wasn’t exactly his best during the first workout, and a lot of outside human-element factors contributed to this. Had the Spurs just given up on Parker after the first workout, who knows how that would’ve changed the history of the franchise?
But they examined why they felt he was bad, called him back for a second workout, and this time he knew what to expect and excelled. The result? Well, just look at the record books.
The same can be said for Murray. Around league circles, Murray didn’t have the best interviews during his draft process, but when it came to the Spurs, he performed well and his values aligned with what the Spurs wanted. The results are still pending, but so far, so good. He’s looking like a possible franchise point guard.
“A values fit is important to our program,” Buford said.
When contemplating what picture the Spurs are trying to paint when it comes to the draft, consider that formula of patience, character and values, in addition to skill set, on the court. Once again, as they’ve done throughout the years, they’ll try to master this part of the painting and move to the next phase.
“The first priority is to do well in the draft,” Buford said. “And then, from that, then you face the next challenge.”
And the next task is the in-house business.
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/05/22160046/USATSI_12603164_168381809_lowres-2.jpgRudy Gay (Ron Chenoy / USA Today)




“Rudy has been a terrific part of our family, and Rudy’s family has been a big part of our family,” Buford said. “I think we’ve been really impacted by his presence. So, our goal will be to keep him in the program.”Gregg Popovich made no secret of the team’s plan for Rudy Gay when he spoke at his end-of-season media session. He said re-signing Gay would be significant.
Simply put: Gay fits the Spurs’ current culture, has shown he can be a factor off the bench, is a good locker room presence and doesn’t take himself too seriously, as Popovich requires. As long as DeMar DeRozan is around, Gay needs to be also.
“He’s the kind of guy that we look for,” Popovich said. “He’s easy to deal with. He’s intelligent; he enjoys people. He’s got a great sense of humor. All those things make people be attracted to him.”
After playing on a one-year deal, the Spurs will most likely use the Early Bird option to re-sign Gay to a contract ranging from two to four years. The salary maxes out at roughly $17 million per season. Gay could elect to play the free-agent market again next summer and sign a one-year deal. For this to occur, the Spurs would need to renounce his Early Bird rights.
They could also use their $9.2 non-taxpayer midlevel exception to bring Gay back, but that seems unnecessary, as they have his Early Bird. If they do select this option, Gay could sign a two-year deal, but the second year can’t include a team or player option. The Spurs can attach a non-guarantee to the contract’s second year, which would allow them to waive Gay next summer and be on the hook only for part of his salary.
A two-year-deal scenario could be interesting. Next summer, DeRozan will need to decide on his future, and that could impact LaMarcus Aldridge’s future beyond this season, too. If the two aren’t in the picture for the 2020-21 season, it could free up Gay to continue his championship chase elsewhere.
This part of the picture — re-signing Gay — seems to be set, and all that needs to be done is the actual painting. But with free agency, anything can occur.
For Gay, this could be his last substantial deal. After sacrificing $14 million two years ago, you get the feeling he’ll want a fair deal for his services.
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/05/22160423/USATSI_12067951_168381809_lowres.jpgTrevor Ariza (Soobum Im / USA Today)




“We’ll look at all options,” Buford told The Athletic. “We’ve got to look at what happens in free agency. We’ve got to see what’s available in the draft. I don’t think you ever go into May knowing specifically where your team-building is going to be.”The other part of the picture is figuring out how to use that $9.2 midlevel exception. Do the Spurs go after one or two players with that money? And if it’s one, they need to make sure it’s an impact role player, as that type of deal is a decent amount.
With the exception, a 5 percent increase of the base salary of the first year will hit every season for the term of the deal. So if the Spurs signed a player using the MLE to a three-year contract with a starting salary of $7 million, that deal increases 5 percent for the term of the contact only via the salary of the first year. Hence, a player would see a roughly $350,000 raise (5 percent of $7 million) in the final two seasons of the deal.
Now, what player is worth most or all of the midlevel money?
“You’ve got to see what happens in the draft first,” Buford said. “Are there any trades that come about? There are so many questions that you don’t know the answer to until (the time comes). Who are the available players? How do you maximize that tool (free agency)?”
There are rumblings around the league that the Spurs are telling some agents they aren’t seeking guards in free agency but wings and big men. Keep an eye on Charlotte’s Frank Kaminsky. The Hornets have to decide if they will use Kaminsky’s roughly $4.4 million qualifying offer to make him a restricted free agent.
If they do, the Spurs, like almost every other NBA team, will be out, and unless Kaminsky brings the Hornets another offer, he stays. But if the team passes, Kaminsky becomes an unrestricted free agent.
Former Spurs assistant coach James Borrego, now the head coach of the Hornets, didn’t use Kaminsky much at the beginning of the season, but in the last 21 games, he averaged 12.8 points and 4.8 rebounds off the bench. But what is intriguing about the 7-foot University of Wisconsin product: He shot 36.6 percent from 3, with one his best outings coming against — who else? — the Spurs.
Kaminsky went 4-of-8 from beyond the arc, 15 points and 10 rebounds in that March 16 win over the Spurs.
He is a big who can shoot the 3-pointer. The Spurs need that type of player. If the Hornets do make Kaminsky a restricted free agent and the Spurs like him that much, maybe a deal could be made via trade. The Hornets have until the end of next month to decide on Kaminsky.
Trevor Ariza is also a name the Spurs were linked to last season when he became available. Perhaps Jeff Green would be a target for another veteran’s minimum deal, this time with San Antonio and not Washington. Jared Dudley has always been one of the most respect vets around the league. Could he fit with the Spurs?
There are all questions the front office is in the process of answering, but as Buford said, the first step in revising this painting comes through the draft.
Other contract datesUnlike last season, the Spurs don’t have any option dates on the main roster. But they will have to decide on Ben Moore, whom they signed to a two-way deal back in November. The Spurs like Moore a lot and want to continue developing him in the G League.
If they are to keep him around, they will need to submit Moore his version of a qualifying offer, which would be roughly $75,000 to retain his rights. Seems like a low price for a player who is gaining traction around the NBA as someone who could land on a roster in the next year or so.
But as we wait to see how the draft unfolds, know that the Spurs are busy planning for the completion of their 2019-20 painting. This isn’t a start-from-scratch project, as some teams will have to consider, but more adding additional layers and finding the right colors to complement what is already on their canvas and hoping this piece of artwork will be enough to win the ultimate prize.
“The intent is not walking in and making changes to that,” Buford said when asked about the Spurs’ history of continuity over significant roster change. “You go into the offseason trying to make the best team that you can. Would you like to compete for a championship? Yeah.”
But as the Spurs have found over the past two years, sometimes it’s just not a pretty picture. Over the next few months, we’ll see if they can change that with the offseason tools they have.

[Cardinal]

SAN ANTONIO — Imagine attempting to paint a picture with all the tools available, or at least most of them. The paintbrushes are there, the colors, the canvas. Even the space on the wall where the picture will hang has been arranged...

Thanks!!

[JuneJive]

Thx Gordy

[RC_Drunkford]

Let's hope they don't give Gay 17 million per year

[look_at_g_shred]

No more oldies,. Ariza? Dudley? Fuck no!

[DPG21920]

Let's hope they don't give Gay 17 million per year

One year is fine as long as it’s not multiple fully guaranteed years

[mo7888]

One year is fine as long as it’s not multiple fully guaranteed years

I think they are prohibited from anything over 12M or so on a 1 year deal (last yrars salary × 120%)... if they go 17M is has to be 2 years minimum.

[DPG21920]

I think they are prohibited from anything over 12M or so on a 1 year deal (last yrars salary × 120%)... if they go 17M is has to be 2 years minimum.

2nd year doesn’t have to be guaranteed

[FutureMan]

2nd year doesn’t have to be guaranteed
So to be clear. Can it be a two year deal (17 millions a year) with a team option that the Spurs can decline but then bring back Rudy on a different contract in 2020? This way there’s more money to chase a bigger free agent next year.

[Drom John]

The Ringer: The Ringer's 2019 NBA Draft Guide
Presented by State Farm Logo
with Scouting Reports by Kevin O’Connor
Mock Draft 5.14



1 9
RUI HACHIMURA Forward Gonzaga

PTS 19.7 26.1 per 40
REB 6.5 8.6 per 40
AST 1.5 2.0 per 40
EFG% 60.8 465 FGA
STL 0.9 1.3 per 40
BLK 0.7 1.0 per 40
3PT% 41.7 36 3PA
FT% 73.9 222 FTA

Main Selling Point Offensive versatility
Age21.3
Height/Weight6'8''/230
Wingspan7'2''
Standing ReachN/A

Raw talent born in Japan who’s progressed considerably in college to become a versatile scorer, but still has so far to go before his game can translate to the NBA.
Shades Of: The Morris twins, Jabari Parker, washed Carmelo Anthony
PLUSES

Tremendous physical tools with a thick frame, long arms, and fluid athleticism. He’s activated these traits with improved ballhandling moves going coast-to-coast after rebounds.
Potential mismatch scorer who can be used all over the court: He’s an effective post scorer, a powerful straight-line driver, a willing cutter, and an improving spot-up shooter.
Comfortable handling the ball and shooting off the dribble from the short midrange; at his rate of improvement, perhaps he’ll someday extend his range to 3.
Versatile close-range finisher who can score above the rim with touch using either hand. He’s a willing screener and could be useful in the pick-and-roll.
Has the tools to be a versatile defender with a sturdy frame, long arms, athleticism, a willingness to learn, and a proven track record of making improvements.
Hard worker on and off the floor who has gotten better each season. Hachimura didn’t start playing organized basketball until he was 14; he’s in the early stages of his development.

MINUSES

The game moves too fast for him on offense; he’s a poor decision-maker who’s slow to read the floor. Even when he does pass, he delivers the ball inaccurately.
Needs to be stronger with the ball; he powered through college players but savvier defenders knew to strip the ball because of his tendency to bring it down.
Reads the floor on defense at Windows 98 speeds; he’s a liability in the pick-and-roll, gets caught in no-man’s-land, and is late to rotate in help situations.
Needs to be more physical to improve his rebounding, which would help compensate for his defensive imitations.




2 9
Nicolas Claxton Center Georgia

PTS 13.0 16.4 per 40
REB 8.6 10.8 per 40
AST 1.8 2.3 per 40
EFG% 49.0 298 FGA
STL 1.1 1.3 per 40
BLK 2.5 3.2 per 40
3PT% 28.1 64 3PA
FT% 64.1 192 FTA

Main Selling Point 3-and-D big skills
Age20.1
Height/Weight6'11.75''/217
Wingspan7'2.5''
Standing Reach9'2''

A tall, lanky center who projects as a super-switchable defender and versatile offensive player—if he develops his jumper.
Shades Of: Al Horford, Mason Plumlee
PLUSES

Good ball handler who can grab-and-go in transition, or score with finesse on cuts and rolls. He stays low on his drives and scores like a guard around the rim with dexterous layups.
Effective passer who could easily thrive as a scorer or playmaker on the short roll. He’s particularly comfortable making left-handed passes off the dribble.
Avoided careless turnovers despite being forced into being a primary playmaker; he won’t have the same role in the NBA, but his skills will make him a tough cover in the pick-and-roll.
Didn’t play with a point guard, which hurt his percentages: He shot 34.6 percent in two years on catch-and-shoot jumpers, which isn’t good but it’s something to build on.
Good rebounder considering his underdeveloped body, though stronger bigs will move him off his spots until he adds muscle.
Impressive defensive potential once his fundamentals improve: He’s mobile moving laterally and plays hard, plus has the length and reaction time to contain guards and wings.
Good shot blocker who can alter perimeter jumpers and recover when beaten to swat away shots from behind; he’s an attentive off-ball defender who steps up for weakside blocks, too.

MINUSES

Lacks physicality and avoids contact; he gets pushed around a lot. He had a late growth spurt, so either he’s just adjusting to his new body or lacks a degree of toughness.
He should be considered no more than a theoretical shooting threat because of his average touch near the rim and his subpar percentages on his jumper and from the line.
Must do a better job of establishing post positioning, especially when sealing defenders underneath the basket on cuts and rim runs.
Thin frame allows beefier players to plow through him on the post and perimeter drives; he needs to get significantly stronger to effectively defend bigs.
Too often stands upright or opens his stance on the perimeter, which allows opponents to blow by him. He needs to stay seated in his stance and move laterally on his heels.

[Drom John]

Yardbarker: 2019 NBA mock draft 4.0: First round
Posted 16 hours ago [AKA 29/30 May 2019] | By Pat Heery


[19] 2019 NBA mock draft 4.0: First round
San Antonio Spurs: Goga Bitadze, KK Mega Bemax

NBA comp: The Ante Zizic Celtics fans told you about

Bitadze would be a lottery pick if he came up in the league 10 or maybe even five years ago. He has power around the basket, a nice touch from the outside and solid all-around game. His problem is going to be — you guessed it — his ability to play defense when he gets thrown into a bunch of pick-and-rolls and must switch onto the James Hardens and Steph Currys of the league. He's a little slow. His ceiling has been described by some experts as Jusuf Nurkic. If any team can help an international talent reach his potential, it's the Spurs.
Patrick Albertini / Contributor


San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors): Carsen Edwards, Purdue

NBA comp: Patty Mills

Edwards' Kemba Walker impersonation during March Madness certainly did his draft stock favors. Instead of being viewed as a chucker, like he was for much of the Big Ten regular season, Edwards is now seen as a player who carried an average Purdue team to the cusp of a Final Four. He showed off unlimited range and impressive shot-making ability in the NCAA Tournament, solidifying his stock as a late-first-, early-second round pick. Every team could use a spark plug guard off the bench, and Edwards fits that mold. He'd be an ideal long-term replacement for Mills.
David Butler II-USA TODAY Sports

[Drom John]

Fansided:
2019 NBA Mock Draft: Re-evaluating the top prospects
by Brendon Kleen 9 hours ago [AKA 30 May 2019] Follow BrendonKleen14

In this week’s 2019 NBA Mock Draft, the dust clears from the combine as prospects spread out across the country for workouts, and we start to re-evaluate the top of the class.

Players like Nassir Little and Darius Bazley helped themselves over the past few weeks getting the chance to meet with teams and the media, while others, such as Bol Bol and Kevin Porter Jr., have been unable to assuage NBA organizations that their fitful freshman seasons are in the rearview.



29
Matisse Thybulle
G/F, Washington
Washington

The Spurs start the project of rebuilding their wing rotation with Thybulle, who should get on the phone with San Antonio shot doctor Chip Engelland the moment this pick is announced.



19
Talen Horton-Tucker
F, Iowa State
Iowa State

Adding Horton-Tucker to a mix that will include Thybulle and 2018 first-rounder Lonnie Walker IV gives the Spurs options on the wing they haven’t had since Kawhi Leonard was at full tilt.

[look_at_g_shred]

The Ringer: The Ringer's 2019 NBA Draft Guide
Presented by State Farm Logo
with Scouting Reports by Kevin O’Connor
Mock Draft 5.14
This is the dream.

[Drom John]

247 Sports: List of underclassmen declaring for the 2019 NBA Draft
ByChance Linton 15 hours ago

The underclassman deadline is in the rearview and the NBA has released its official list of early entrants for the 2019 NBA Draft.

The deadline for underclassmen to declare for the draft was April 21 and 233 players submitted their names as early entry candidates, including 175 college players and 58 international players.

Players who did elect to declare early will have until the NCAA deadline of May 29 to withdraw from the draft and retain their college eligibility. Due to an NCAA rule change instituted this year, players are allowed to hire an agent without forfeiting their college eligibility, so it won’t be as clear which players intend to stay in the draft as it was in previous years. Players can also elect to return to school if they go undrafted, but this rule only applies to players who participated in the NBA Draft Combine.

The 2019 NBA Draft will be held on June 20 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn and the event will be televised on ESPN.

Below is a full list of the players who filed for early entry into the 2019 NBA Draft, along with their respective 247Sports Composite recruiting rankings, with college prospects listed first followed by the international players. The players are listed in alphabetical order.

Players declared for the NBA Draft

Nickeil Alexander-Walker | SG | Soph. | Virginia Tech
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9860 | No. 9 SG in 2017

RJ Barrett | SG | Fr. | Duke
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 1.0000 | No. 1 Overall in 2018

Charles Bassey | C | Fr. | Western Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9985 | No. 2 C in 2018

Tyus Battle | SG | Jr. | Syracuse
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9869 | No. 5 SG in 2016

Darius Bazley | SF | H.S. | Princeton (Cincinnati, Ohio)
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9937 | No. 4 SF in 2018

Bol Bol | C | Fr. | Oregon
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9989 | No. 1 C in 2018

Marques Bolden | C | Jr. | Duke
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9954 | No. 1 C in 2016

Jordan Bone | PG | Jr. | Tennessee
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8834 | No. 33 PG in 2016

Ky Bowman | PG | Jr. | Boston College
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8361 | No. 66 PG in 2016

Ignas Brazdeikis | SF | Fr. | Michigan
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9859 | No. 9 SF in 2018

Oshae Brissett | SF | Soph. | Syracuse
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9183 | No. 30 SF in 2017

Armoni Brooks | PG | Jr. | Houston
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8402 | No. 61 SG in 2016

Charlie Brown | SG | R-Soph. | St. Joseph’s
247Sports Composite: N/A

Moses Brown | C | Fr. | UCLA
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9910 | No. 4 C in 2018

Brandon Clarke | PF | R-Jr. | Gonzaga
247Sports Composite: 2-star | 0.7000 | No. 103 SF in 2015

Nicolas Claxton | PF | Soph. | Georgia
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8733 | No. 48 SF in 2017

Amir Coffey | SF | Jr. | Minnesota
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9805 | No. 7 SG in 2016

Tyler Cook | PF | Jr. | Iowa
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9723 | No. 17 PF in 2016

Jarrett Culver | SG | Soph. | Texas Tech
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8600 | No. 64 SG in 2017

Aubrey Dawkins | SG | R-Jr. | UCF
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8218 | No. 92 SG in 2014

Luguentz Dort | SG | Fr. | Arizona State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9895 | No. 5 SG in 2018

Jason Draggs | SF | Fr. | Lee College (Texas)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Carsen Edwards | PG | Jr. | Purdue
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9282 | No. 25 PG in 2016

Bruno Fernando | C | Soph. | Maryland
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9573 | No. 8 C in 2017

Daniel Gafford | PF | Soph. | Arkansas
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9860 | No. 11 PF in 2017

Darius Garland | PG | Fr. | Vanderbilt
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9951 | No. 2 PG in 2018

Tony Goodwin II | SG | H.S. | Redemption Christian Academy (Northfield, Mass.)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Kyle Guy | SG | Jr. | Virginia
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9853 | No. 6 CG in 2016

Rui Hachimura | SF | Jr. | Gonzaga
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9005 | No. 31 SF in 2016

Jaylen Hands | PG | Soph. | UCLA
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9918 | No. 3 PG in 2017

Jared Harper | PG | Jr. | Auburn
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9529 | No. 21 PG in 2016

Jaxson Hayes | PF | Fr. | Texas
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9592 | No. 21 PF in 2018

Dewan Hernandez | PF | Jr. | Miami
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9901 | No. 8 PF in 2016

Tyler Herro | SG | Fr. | Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9876 | No. 6 SG in 2018

Amir Hinton | SG | Jr. | Shaw University (D-II)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Jaylen Hoard | SF | Fr. | Wake Forest
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9926 | No. 6 SF in 2018

Daulton Hommes | SF | Jr. | Point Loma (D-II)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Talen Horton-Tucker | SF | Fr. | Iowa State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9805 | No. 13 SF in 2018

De'Andre Hunter | SF | R-Soph. | Virginia
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9526 | No. 14 SG in 2016

Ty Jerome | PG | Jr. | Virginia
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9830 | No. 7 PG in 2016

Keldon Johnson | SG | Fr. | Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9955 | No. 3 SF in 2018

Mfiondu Kabengele | PF | R-Soph. | Florida State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8513 | No. 52 SF in 2016

Sacha Killeya-Jones | PF | Jr. | NC State
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9908 | No. 7 PF in 2016

Louis King | SF | Fr. | Oregon
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9929 | No. 5 SF in 2018

V.J. King | SF | Jr. | Louisville
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9905 | No. 5 SF in 2016

Sagaba Konate | C | Jr. | West Virginia
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8963 | No. 39 PF in 2016

Martin Krampelj | PF | R-Jr. | Creighton
247Sports Composite: N/A

Romeo Langford | SG | Fr. | Indiana
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9984 | No. 2 SG in 2018

Cameron Lard | PF | R-Soph. | Iowa State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9037 | No. 36 PF in 2016

Dedric Lawson | PF | R-Jr. | Kansas
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9865 | No. 10 PF in 2015

Jalen Lecque | PG | H.S. | Brewster Academy (N.H.)
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9868 | No. 6 CG in 2019

Jacob Ledoux | PG | Jr. | Texas-Permian Basin
247Sports Composite: N/A

Nassir Little | SF | Fr. | North Carolina
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9992 | No. 2 SF in 2018

Trevor Manuel | PF | R-Jr. | Olivet (Mich.)
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9312 | No. 27 PF in 2015

Charles Matthews | SG | R-Jr. | Michigan
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9766 | No. 16 SG in 2015

Jalen McDaniels | PF | R-Soph. | San Diego State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9266 | No. 29 PF in 2016

Ja Morant | PG | Soph. | Murray State
247Sports Composite: N/A

Kouat Noi | SF | R-Soph. | TCU
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8435 | No. 71 PF in 2016

Zach Norvell Jr. | SG | R-Soph. | Gonzaga
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9433 | No. 17 SG in 2016

Jaylen Nowell | PG | Soph. | Washington
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9717 | No. 13 SG in 2017

Chuma Okeke | SF | Soph. | Auburn
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9820 | No. 10 SF in 2017

KZ Okpala | SF | Soph. | Stanford
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9845 | No. 8 SF in 2017

Miye Oni | SG | Jr. | Yale
247Sports Composite: N/A

Devonte Patterson | SF | Jr. | Prairie View A&M
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8435 | No. 56 SF in 2016

Lamar Peters | PG | Jr. | Mississippi State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9452 | No. 22 PG in 2016

Shamorie Ponds | PG | Jr. | St. John’s
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9825 | No. 7 CG in 2016

Jordan Poole | SG | Soph. | Michigan
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9504 | No. 19 SG in 2017

Jontay Porter | C | Soph. | Missouri
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9910 | No. 9 PF in 2017

Kevin Porter Jr. | SG | Fr. | USC
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9907 | No. 4 SG in 2018

Brandon Randolph | SG | Soph. | Arizona
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9860 | No. 8 SG in 2017

Cam Reddish | SF | Fr. | Duke
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9993 | No. 1 SF in 2018

Isaiah Reese | PG | Jr. | Canisius
247Sports Composite: N/A

Naz Reid | C | Fr. | LSU
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9936 | No. 4 PF in 2018

Austin Robinson | PG | Soph. | Kentucky Christian
247Sports Composite: N/A

Isaiah Roby | SF | Jr. | Nebraska
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9110 | No. 26 SF in 2016

Ayinde Russell | PG | R-Jr. | Morehouse
247Sports Composite: N/A

Samir Sehic | PF | R-Jr. | Tulane
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8782 | No. 18 C in 2015

Simisola Shittu | PF | Fr. | Vanderbilt
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9964 | No. 3 PF in 2018

Justin Simon | SG | R-Jr. | St. John’s
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9871 | No. 8 PG in 2015

D'Marcus Simonds | SG | Jr. | Georgia State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8736 | No. 32 SG in 2016

Jalen Sykes | SG | Jr. | St. Clair College (Canada)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Rayjon Tucker | SG | R-Jr. | Arkansas-Little Rock
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9019 | No. 27 SF in 2015

Nick Ward | PF | Jr. | Michigan State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9832 | No. 13 PF in 2016

PJ Washington | PF | Soph. | Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9947 | No. 7 PF in 2017

Tremont Waters | PG | Soph. | LSU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9842 | No. 10 PG in 2017

Coby White | PG | Fr. | North Carolina
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9914 | No. 3 SG in 2018

Lindell Wigginton | PG | Soph. | Iowa State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9869 | No. 8 PG in 2017

Kris Wilkes | SF | Soph. | UCLA
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9924 | No. 6 SF in 2017

Grant Williams | PF | Jr. | Tennessee
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8754 | No. 47 PF in 2016

Zion Williamson | PF | Fr. | Duke
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9986 | No. 1 PF in 2018

Kenny Wooten | PF | Soph. | Oregon
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9227 | No. 30 PF in 2017



Players returning to school

Milan Acquaah | PG | R-Soph. | California Baptist
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8727 | No. 39 PG in 2016

Bryce Aiken | PG | Jr. | Harvard
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9565 | No. 19 PG in 2016

Al-Wajid Aminu | SF | Jr. | North Florida
247Sports Composite: N/A

Desmond Bane | SG | Jr. | TCU
247Sports Composite: N/A

Troy Baxter Jr. | PF | R-Soph. | Florida Gulf Coast
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9515 | No. 20 PF in 2016

Kerry Blackshear Jr. | C | R-Jr. | Virginia Tech
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9270 | No. 31 PF in 2015

Phil Bledsoe | SF | Jr. | Glenville State (W.V.)
247Sports Composite: N/A

DaQuan Bracey | PG | Jr. | Louisiana Tech
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8597 | No. 44 PG in 2016

Keith Braxton | SG | Jr. | St. Francis (Pa.)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Nico Carvacho | C | R-Jr. | Colorado State
247Sports Composite: 2-star | 0.7000 | No. 44 C in 2015

Yoeli Childs | SF | Jr. | BYU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9317 | No. 27 PF in 2016

RJ Cole | PG | Soph. | Howard
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8333 | No. 24 CG in 2017

Anthony Cowan Jr. | PG | Jr. | Maryland
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9765 | No. 11 PG in 2016

Jarron Cumberland | SG | Jr. | Cincinnati
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9782 | No. 8 SG in 2016

Caleb Daniels | SG | Soph. | Tulane
247Sports Composite: N/A

Tulio Da Silva | SF | R-Jr. | Missouri State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8848 | No. 45 PF in 2015

Javin DeLaurier | PF | Jr. | Duke
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9835 | No. 11 PF in 2016

Silvio De Sousa | PF | Soph. | Kansas
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9882 | No. 10 PF in 2017

Mamadi Diakite | PF | R-Jr. | Virginia
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9871 | No. 9 PF in 2015

Alpha Diallo | SF | Jr. | Providence
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9287 | No. 23 SF in 2016

James Dickey | PF | R-Jr. | UNC-Greensboro
247Sports Composite: N/A

David DiLeo | SF | Jr. | Central Michigan
247Sports Composite: N/A

Davon Dillard | SG | R-Jr. | Shaw University (D-II)
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8984 | No. 46 SG in 2015

Devon Dotson | PG | Fr. | Kansas
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9927 | No. 4 PG in 2018

Aljami Durham | SG | Soph. | Indiana
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8733 | No. 45 PG in 2017

CJ Elleby | SF | Fr. | Washington State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8600 | No. 84 SF in 2018

Steven Enoch | C | R-Jr. | Louisville
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9590 | No. 20 PF in 2015

Jaylen Fisher | PG | Jr. | TCU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9738 | No. 15 PG in 2016

Savion Flagg | SF | Soph. | Texas A&M
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9791 | No. 12 SF in 2017

Eugene German | PG | Jr. | Northern Illinois
247Sports Composite: N/A

TJ Gibbs | PG | Jr. | Notre Dame
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9556 | No. 20 PG in 2016

Quentin Goodin | PG | Jr. | Xavier
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9682 | No. 17 PG in 2016

Kellan Grady | PG | Soph. | Davidson
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9481 | No. 20 PG in 2017

Devonte Green | PG | Jr. | Indiana
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8735 | No. 38 PG in 2016

Quentin Grimes | SG | Fr. | Kansas
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9967 | No. 2 CG in 2018

Jon Axel Gudmundsson | SG | Jr. | Davidson
247Sports Composite: N/A

Jerrick Harding | PG | Jr. | Weber State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8187 | No. 94 PG in 2016

Kevon Harris | SF | Jr. | Stephen F. Austin
247Sports Composite: N/A

Jayce Johnson | C | R-Jr. | Utah
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9559 | No. 12 C in 2016

Markell Johnson | PG | Jr. | NC State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9769 | No. 10 PG in 2016

Tyrique Jones | PF | Jr. | Xavier
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9419 | No. 22 PF in 2016

Nathan Knight | C | Jr. | William & Mary
247Sports Composite: N/A

A.J. Lawson | SG | Fr. | South Carolina
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9293 | No. 16 CG in 2018

Tevin Mack | SG | R-Jr. | Alabama
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9781 | No. 10 SF in 2015

Malik Maitland | PG | R-Jr. | Bethune-Cookman
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8291 | No. 76 PG in 2015

Jermaine Marrow | PG | Jr. | Hampton
247Sports Composite: N/A

Skylar Mays | PG | Jr. | LSU
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9097 | No. 13 CG in 2016

Naji Marshall | SG | Soph. | Xavier
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9784 | No. 14 SF in 2017

Davion Mintz | PG | Jr. | Creighton
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8218 | No. 26 CG in 2016

EJ Montgomery | PF | Fr. | Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9967 | No. 2 PF in 2018

Andrew Nembhard | PG | Fr. | Florida
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9926 | No. 6 PG in 2018

Joel Ntambwe | PF | Fr. | UNLV
247Sports Composite: N/A

Jordan Nwora | SF | Soph. | Louisville
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9565 | No. 21 SF in 2017

Reggie Perry | PF | Fr. | Mississippi State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9891 | No. 7 PF in 2018

Filip Petrusev | C | Fr. | Gonzaga
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9725 | No. 9 C in 2018

Jalen Pickett | SG | Fr. | Siena
247Sports Composite: N/A

Cletrell Pope | PF | Jr. | Bethune-Cookman
247Sports Composite: N/A

Nik Popovic | PF | Jr. | Boston College
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8402 | No. 75 PF in 2016

Myles Powell | PG | Jr. | Seton Hall
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9655 | No. 18 PG in 2016

Payton Pritchard | PG | Jr. | Oregon
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9788 | No. 9 PG in 2016

Neemias Queta | C | Fr. | Utah State
247Sports Composite: N/A

Nick Richards | C | Soph. | Kentucky
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9943 | No. 2 C in 2017

Laquincy Rideau | PG | R-Jr. | South Florida
247Sports Composite: N/A

Kevin Samuel | C | R-Fr. | TCU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9265 | No. 11 C in 2017

Paul Scruggs | PG | Soph. | Xavier
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9878 | No. 7 PG in 2017

Nike Sibande | SG | Soph. | Miami (OH)
247Sports Composite: N/A

Javonte Smart | PG | Fr. | LSU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9883 | No. 4 CG in 2018

Justin Smith | SF | Soph. | Indiana
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9636 | No. 18 PF in 2017

Derrik Smits | C | R-Jr. | Valparaiso
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8703 | No. 54 PF in 2015

Xavier Sneed | SF | Jr. | Kansas State
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.9033 | No. 28 SF in 2016

Lamar Stevens | SF | Jr. | Penn State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9449 | No. 17 SF in 2016

Marlon Taylor | SG | Jr. | LSU
247Sports Composite (JUCO): 3-star | 0.8889 | No. 3 SG in 2018

Ethan Thompson | SG | Soph. | Oregon State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9862 | No. 7 SG in 2017

Killian Tillie | PF | Jr. | Gonzaga
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9245 | No. 31 PF in 2016

Donnie Tillman | SF | Soph. | Utah
247Sports Composite: 3-star | 0.8726 | No. 56 PF in 2017

Tres Tinkle | SF | R-Jr. | Oregon State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9661 | No. 15 SF in 2015

Obi Toppin | PF | R-Fr. | Dayton
247Sports Composite: N/A

Justin Turner | SG | R-Soph. | Bowling Green
247Sports Composite: N/A

Kaleb Wesson | C | Soph. | Ohio State
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9681 | No. 6 C in 2017

Jimmy Whitt | SG | R-Jr. | SMU
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9744 | No. 20 SG in 2015

Joe Wieskamp | SG | Fr. | Iowa
247Sports Composite: 4-star | 0.9793 | No. 11 SG in 2018

Charles Williams | SG | Jr. | Howard
247Sports Composite: N/A

Emmitt Williams | PF | Fr. | LSU
247Sports Composite: 5-star | 0.9913 | No. 6 PF in 2018
2COMMENTS

Holland Woods II | PG | Soph. | Portland State
247Sports Composite: N/A


International prospects entering the draft

Dikembe Andre | C | 1999 DOB | Paulistano (Brazil)
Darko Bajo | SF | 1999 DOB | Cedevita (Croatia)
Aleksander Balcerowski | C | 2000 DOB | Gran Canaria (Spain)
Goga Bitadze | C | 1999 DOB | Buducnost (Montenegro)
Vrenz Bleijenbergh | PF | 2000 DOB | Antwerp (Belgium)
Adrian Bogucki | C | 1999 DOB | Radom (Poland)
Leandro Bolmaro | SG | 2000 DOB | Barcelona (Spain)
Ognjen Carapic | PG | 1998 DOB | Mega Bemax (Serbia)
Leo Cizmic | SF | 1998 DOB | Girona (Spain)
Digue Diawara | PF | 1998 DOB | Pau Orthez (France)
Nenad Dimitrijevic | PG | 1998 DOB | Joventut (Spain)
Felipe Dos Anjos | C | 1998 DOB | Melilla (Spain)
Yago Dos Santos | PG | 1999 DOB | Paulistano (Brazil)
Sekou Doumbouya | PF | 2000 DOB | Limoges (France)
Henri Drell | SF | 2000 DOB | Baunach (Germany)
Paul Eboua | SF | 2000 DOB | Roseto (Italy)
Osas Ehigiator | C | 1999 DOB | Fuenlabrada (Spain)
Biram Faye | SF | 2000 DOB | Avila (Spain)
Ivan Fevrier | SF | 1999 DOB | Levallois (France)
Aleix Font | SG | 1998 DOB | Barcelona (Spain)
Philipp Herkenhoff | PF | 1999 DOB | Vechta (Germany)
Dalibor Ilic | PF | 2000 DOB | Igokea (Bosnia)
Matas Jogela | SG | 1998 DOB | Dzukija (Lithuania)
Panagiotis Kalaitzakis | SG | 1999 DOB | Holargos (Greece)
Mate Kalajzic | PG | 1998 DOB | Split (Croatia)
Lukasz Kolenda | PG | 1999 DOB | Trefl Sopot (Poland)
Marcos Louzada Silva | SG | 1999 DOB | Franca (Brazil)
Andrija Marjanovic | SF | 1999 DOB | Mega Bemax (Serbia)
Gytis Masiulis | PF | 1998 DOB | Neptunas (Lithuania)
Jonas Mattisseck | PG | 2000 DOB | Alba Berlin (Germany)
William McDowell-White | PG | 1998 DOB | Baunach (Germany)
Nikita Mikhailovskii | SF | 2000 DOB | Avtodor (Russia)
Nikola Miskovic | SF | 1999 DOB | Mega Bemax (Serbia)
Adam Mokoka | SG | 1998 DOB | Mega Bemax (Serbia)
Muhaymin Mustafa | SG | 1999 DOB | Tofas (Turkey)
Toni Nakic | SG | 1999 DOB | Sibenik (Croatia)
Abdoulaye N’Doye | SG | 1998 DOB | Cholet (France)
Tanor Ngom | C | 1998 DOB | Ryerson (Canada)
Joshua Obiesie | SG | 2000 DOB | Wurzburg (Germany)
David Okeke | SF | 1998 DOB | Fiat Torino (Italy)
Louis Olinde | SF | 1998 DOB | Brose Baskets (Germany)
Zoran Paunovic | SG | 2000 DOB | FMP (Serbia)
Dino Radoncic | SF | 1999 DOB | Murcia (Spain)
Sander Raieste | SF | 1999 DOB | Baskonia (Spain)
Neal Sako | C | 1998 DOB | Levallois (France)
Luka Samanic | PF | 2000 DOB | Olimpija (Slovenia)
Tadas Sedekerskis | SF | 1998 DOB | Baskonia (Spain)
Njegos Sikiras | PF | 1999 DOB | Tormes (Spain)
Borisa Simanic | PF | 1998 DOB | Crvena Zvezda (Serbia)
Deividas Sirvydis | SG | 2000 DOB | Rytas (Lithuania)
Khadim Sow | C | 1999 DOB | ASVEL (France)
Filip Stanic | C | 1998 DOB | Mega Bemax (Serbia)
Michael Uchendu | C | 1998 DOB | Coruna (Spain)
Bastien Vautier | C | 1998 DOB | Nancy (France)
Arnas Velicka | PG | 1999 DOB | Tartu Ulikool (Estonia)
Warren Woghiren | C | 1998 DOB | Cholet (France)
Arturs Zagars | PG | 2000 DOB | Joventut (Spain)
Yovel Zoosman | SG | 1998 DOB | Maccabi Tel Aviv (Israel)

[DPG21920]

So to be clear. Can it be a two year deal (17 millions a year) with a team option that the Spurs can decline but then bring back Rudy on a different contract in 2020? This way there’s more money to chase a bigger free agent next year.

Kind of. But instead of it being a “team option” it would be no option (player or team). Instead it would be a 2 year, 34M deal with no options, but the second year would be fully not guaranteed.

But yes, the reason for that would be so that SA could re-sign Rudy without having to use the MLE along with keeping flexibility for changes to the team after this next season.

[BackHome]

I would be satisfied with this.

Did Tucker just get busted for shoplifting 15$ from Walmart?

[CGD]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1133567929864347649

Interesting piece. RC quotes signaling (draft day) trade openness interesting.

[Dejounte]

Interesting piece. RC quotes signaling (draft day) trade openness interesting.

Where does it say that?

[CGD]

Where does it say that?

“You’ve got to see what happens in the draft first,” Buford said. “Are there any trades that come about? There are so many questions that you don’t know the answer to until (the time comes).”

[ZeusWillJudge]

Great article, Gordy. Thanks. Nice to have something new to read.



Where does it say that?


Being "open" to anything is what the Spurs FO people have always said. Whether they are actively looking for a trade, they've said that they're always willing to listen.

[Thomas82]

Did Tucker just get busted for shoplifting 15$ from Walmart?

I haven't heard that.

[Thomas82]

The Ringer: The Ringer's 2019 NBA Draft Guide
Presented by State Farm Logo
with Scouting Reports by Kevin O’Connor
Mock Draft 5.14

1 9
RUI HACHIMURA Forward Gonzaga

PTS 19.7 26.1 per 40
REB 6.5 8.6 per 40
AST 1.5 2.0 per 40
EFG% 60.8 465 FGA
STL 0.9 1.3 per 40
BLK 0.7 1.0 per 40
3PT% 41.7 36 3PA
FT% 73.9 222 FTA

Main Selling Point Offensive versatility
Age21.3
Height/Weight6'8''/230
Wingspan7'2''
Standing ReachN/A

Raw talent born in Japan who’s progressed considerably in college to become a versatile scorer, but still has so far to go before his game can translate to the NBA.
Shades Of: The Morris twins, Jabari Parker, washed Carmelo Anthony

PLUSES

Tremendous physical tools with a thick frame, long arms, and fluid athleticism. He’s activated these traits with improved ballhandling moves going coast-to-coast after rebounds.

Potential mismatch scorer who can be used all over the court: He’s an effective post scorer, a powerful straight-line driver, a willing cutter, and an improving spot-up shooter.

Comfortable handling the ball and shooting off the dribble from the short midrange; at his rate of improvement, perhaps he’ll someday extend his range to 3.

Versatile close-range finisher who can score above the rim with touch using either hand. He’s a willing screener and could be useful in the pick-and-roll.

Has the tools to be a versatile defender with a sturdy frame, long arms, athleticism, a willingness to learn, and a proven track record of making improvements.

Hard worker on and off the floor who has gotten better each season. Hachimura didn’t start playing organized basketball until he was 14; he’s in the early stages of his development.

MINUSES

The game moves too fast for him on offense; he’s a poor decision-maker who’s slow to read the floor. Even when he does pass, he delivers the ball inaccurately.

Needs to be stronger with the ball; he powered through college players but savvier defenders knew to strip the ball because of his tendency to bring it down.

Reads the floor on defense at Windows 98 speeds; he’s a liability in the pick-and-roll, gets caught in no-man’s-land, and is late to rotate in help situations.

Needs to be more physical to improve his rebounding, which would help compensate for his defensive imitations.


2 9
Nicolas Claxton Center Georgia

PTS 13.0 16.4 per 40
REB 8.6 10.8 per 40
AST 1.8 2.3 per 40
EFG% 49.0 298 FGA
STL 1.1 1.3 per 40
BLK 2.5 3.2 per 40
3PT% 28.1 64 3PA
FT% 64.1 192 FTA

Main Selling Point 3-and-D big skills
Age20.1
Height/Weight6'11.75''/217
Wingspan7'2.5''
Standing Reach9'2''

A tall, lanky center who projects as a super-switchable defender and versatile offensive player—if he develops his jumper.
Shades Of: Al Horford, Mason Plumlee
PLUSES

Good ball handler who can grab-and-go in transition, or score with finesse on cuts and rolls. He stays low on his drives and scores like a guard around the rim with dexterous layups.

Effective passer who could easily thrive as a scorer or playmaker on the short roll. He’s particularly comfortable making left-handed passes off the dribble.

Avoided careless turnovers despite being forced into being a primary playmaker; he won’t have the same role in the NBA, but his skills will make him a tough cover in the pick-and-roll.

Didn’t play with a point guard, which hurt his percentages: He shot 34.6 percent in two years on catch-and-shoot jumpers, which isn’t good but it’s something to build on.

Good rebounder considering his underdeveloped body, though stronger bigs will move him off his spots until he adds muscle.

Impressive defensive potential once his fundamentals improve: He’s mobile moving laterally and plays hard, plus has the length and reaction time to contain guards and wings.

Good shot blocker who can alter perimeter jumpers and recover when beaten to swat away shots from behind; he’s an attentive off-ball defender who steps up for weakside blocks, too.

MINUSES

Lacks physicality and avoids contact; he gets pushed around a lot. He had a late growth spurt, so either he’s just adjusting to his new body or lacks a degree of toughness.

He should be considered no more than a theoretical shooting threat because of his average touch near the rim and his subpar percentages on his jumper and from the line.

Must do a better job of establishing post positioning, especially when sealing defenders underneath the basket on cuts and rim runs.

Thin frame allows beefier players to plow through him on the post and perimeter drives; he needs to get significantly stronger to effectively defend bigs.

Too often stands upright or opens his stance on the perimeter, which allows opponents to blow by him. He needs to stay seated in his stance and move laterally on his heels.




***I would be satisfied with this.***

[buttsR4rebounding]

Interesting article from The Stepien:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/28/draft-notes-initiator-participator-finisher/

Nice find.

[Dejounte]

Length is the new wave. Spurs will be looking fo players who can switch easily and guard big and small like what the Raptors are doing now. This probably pushes Grant Wiliams down on the Spurs big board.

1. Samanic
2. Roby
3. Bazley
4. PJ Washington
5. Brandon Clarke
6. Thybulle
7. Sekou
8. Paschall

[Dejounte]

Who are your top guys at 19 or if the Spurs move up though? There's no way you're saying that if all those guys (including your bottom 5) are there at 19 you take Samanic, right?!?

Spurs dont need to move up. If they did, it should only be for Zion Williamson or DeAndre Hunter. This draft is a good one in terms of abundance of wings later in the draft. No wonder RC wanted another pick in this draft. It would be genius if he anticipated this draft would be like this and would explain why he didnt go for any forwards last offseason.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Breakdown of Underrated Prospects, 1st-Round Predictions
Kristopher Knox
May 31, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs: Nassir Little, SF/PF, North Carolina


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto): Dylan Windler, SF, Belmont