Spurs Draft Discussion: 2019 NBA Draft

[Twisted_Dawg]

I think that it's possible that they flip Dejounte, but probably not for a pick in a shitty draft like this. Maybe Boston or Toronto may come calling when they lose their PGs this summer.

Had a similar convo with another long time fan. He proposed trading Dejounte and #29 with hopes of moving into mid teens. I wonder what that trade would bring?

[Mr. Body]

Had a similar convo with another long time fan. He proposed trading Dejounte and #29 with hopes of moving into mid teens. I wonder what that trade would bring?

Horrible idea. Murray is equivalent to a high lottery pick already.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think that it's possible that they flip Dejounte, but probably not for a pick in a shitty draft like this. Maybe Boston or Toronto may come calling when they lose their PGs this summer.


Unless there's a sleeper like Kawhi that they just really want, I don't see it either.

Murray only costs $2.3M next season, so he's not offsetting much in the way of salary. If they think he's going to want too much money the next year, they might try to deal him and get some value - like maybe in a deal to dump Patty. (I know, wishful thinking.)

[timvp]

Third tiebreaker: Indiana gets the #18 pick, San Antonio gets the #19 pick, Boston (via the LA Clippers) get the #20 pick,

Cool. So 19, 29 and 49. Considering one more win could have pushed the Spurs down to 22, that's a good outcome :tu

[Mikeanaro]

Not bad.

[Seventyniner]

Cool. So 19, 29 and 49. Considering one more win could have pushed the Spurs down to 22, that's a good outcome :tu

Now the Spurs should trade DeRozan for #9, #39, and #59 plus filler so they can draft to the nines.

[Degoat]

I’m definitely dreaming here but I wish Cam Reddish would fall to like the 12th pick or so and the spurs move up and grab him, it’s total wishful thinking but I think the spurs development staff could really help him break out

[acoelho1]

They are not trading Murray unless a star is coming back. That’s how valuable they see him and those on the forum wanting him traded or playing behind White will look foolish when he’s back in action.

[Chinook]

Now the Spurs should trade DeRozan for #9, #39, and #59 plus filler so they can draft to the nines.

There's a legit chance that the Pelicans have 9 and 39 and are willing to trade those for DeRozan. Then they could buy 59 from Toronto.

[Mr. Body]

Murray's potential is far higher value than any pick you'd get for him. Stop this nonsense.

[rascal]

Not bad, at least it's not the 20th pick.

Not good if they lose in the first round.

[ZeusWillJudge]

There's a legit chance that the Pelicans have 9 and 39 and are willing to trade those for DeRozan. Then they could buy 59 from Toronto.


Murray's potential is far higher value than any pick you'd get for him. Stop this nonsense.


Hey, it's not every day you have a chance to draft for the cycle.

[NASpurs]

Not good if they lose in the first round.

No shit, you're speaking to a person on the tank bandwagon back in December.

[NickiRasgo]

Whatever happened to Bruno Fernando? Went from top 10-20 to 2nd round.

[duncan2150]

Whatever happened to Bruno Fernando? Went from top 10-20 to 2nd round.

He is more a 20-30 pick in most mocks than a secound. A lot can moove in this draft but imo he Will be a first round pick somewhere between 15-30.

[wildbill2u]

Since the very top picks seem to tend to be Centers and hot shooting guards, I think it is possible that a good pick of a SF might fall to us. But then I haven't been checking the draft list yet for SF players. Typically the picks after 15 have a small chance of having long careers, if any, in the NBA, but our FO and Pop have a damn good record in winkeling out good prospects that other teams overlook.

We are one good SF prospect away from having one of the best young teams in the league.

[ducks]

Offseason thread let’s get some nasty

[ace3g]

Since the very top picks seem to tend to be Centers and hot shooting guards, I think it is possible that a good pick of a SF might fall to us. But then I haven't been checking the draft list yet for SF players. Typically the picks after 15 have a small chance of having long careers, if any, in the NBA, but our FO and Pop have a damn good record in winkeling out good prospects that other teams overlook.

We are one good SF prospect away from having one of the best young teams in the league.


"What is a SF and why are they needed in today's NBA?"
- Pop

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs won't trade Dejounte. They will try to work out a contract extension this offseason

[sasaint]

I suspect Spurs might do a 'George Hill' again by trading their beloved 'Dejounte Murray' for a higher pick.

That kind of came out of the blue, friend. What makes you say that? No real indicators are there?

[Drom John]

CBS Sports: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Draft order starting to fall into shape, Ja Morant jumps up to No. 2 selection
The first-round draft order is set outside of the lottery
by Gary Parrish GaryParrishCBS 23 hrs ago [AKA 14 April 2019]


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Keldon Johnson | Kentucky | Fr | SG | 6-6

Kentucky should have three players selected in the top 20 of this NBA Draft — and they really could go in any order. For what it's worth, I have Johnson the last to come off the board. But if he's actiually the first, it won't be surprising considering the 6-6 wing is a nice athlete who shot 38.1 percent from 3-point range on three attempts per game this season. He was a big reason why Kentucky was just a shot away from making the Final Four for the fifth time in a 10-year span under John Calipari.


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Pick acquired via trade with Toronto

Dylan Windler | Belmont | Sr | SG | 6-8

Windler entered Belmont as a mostly unheralded prospect but is leaving as one of the nation's most productive players. The 6-8 senior averaged 21.3 points and 10.8 rebounds in 33.2 minutes per game this season while registering the nation's 10th-best Player Efficiency Rating and leading the Bruins to their first win in NCAA Tournament history. Beyond that, Windler shot above 42 percent from 3-point range in each of the past two seasons, which suggests he'll be a reliable shooter in the NBA and a space-the-floor forward.

[Drom John]

NBC Sports Washington:
2019 NBA Mock Draft 7.0: What do the Wizards' increased draft odds mean for De'Andre Hunter, Jarrett Culver or Cam Reddish
By NBC Sports Washington
2019 NBA Mock Draft 7.0: Odds increase for Wizards at final buzzer



19. San Antonio Spurs: Tyler Herro

College: Kentucky
Position: Shooting Guard
Height/Weight: 6-5/194
Year: Freshman

The 6-foot-5 Herro's ranking improved throughout the season thanks to impressive shooting including better than 90 percent from the free throw line while scoring 14 per game.




29. San Antonio Spurs (via TOR): Eric Paschall

College: Villanova
Position: Power Forward
Height/Weight: 6-9/255
Year: Senior

The 6-foot-9 forward stepped after the Wildcats sent four players to the NBA by averaging 16.5 points. The Spurs took a forward with their previous first-round pick, but taking another works in terms of best available and noting Rudy Gay and Dante Cunningham are free agents.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Complete 1st-Round Predictions for Top Prospects and More
Joe Tansey
April 13, 2019


20. San Antonio Spurs: Grant Williams, PF, Tennesse


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Dylan Windler, SF, Belmont

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Draft: NBA Draft 2019: Latest 1st-Round Projections and Top Prospects' Stock Watch
Kristopher Knox
April 14, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs: Goga Bitadze, C, Montenegro


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Dylan Windler, SF, Belmont

[Drom John]

NBC Sports:
NBA mock draft 2019: Projected first-round picks from Nos. 1 to 30
By James Ham 12 hours ago [AKA 14-15 April 2019]



19. Spurs: Bruno Fernando, C, Maryland

San Antonio continues to fend off Father Time. The Spurs have rebuilt their starting backcourt on the fly, and could use some depth up front. Fernando has all the physical tools, but patience is needed.

He could learn a lot from Popovich and his staff, and might be able to pay dividends down the road.




29. Spurs (from Raptors): Matisse Thybulle, SF, Washington

Known for their ability to mine talent deep into the draft, the Spurs look for intangibles and then develop players. Thybulle is a seasoned 6-foot-6 brawler who has a 7-foot wingspan and an NBA body, but he’ll need to improve as a shooter if he wants to become a 3-and-D wing at the next level.

[Russ]

19. San Antonio Spurs: Tyler Herro

College: Kentucky
Position: Shooting Guard
Height/Weight: 6-5/194
Year: Freshman

The 6-foot-5 Herro's ranking improved throughout the season thanks to impressive shooting including better than 90 percent from the free throw line while scoring 14 per game.

I don't know what it is, but I know one thing:

PATFO has an opinion, one way or another, on Tyler Herro.

[Drom John]

Basketball Insiders: Top 100 NBA Draft Prospects
10 hours ago [AKA 15 April 2019]

NOT TEAM DEPENDENT


19 Charles Bassey
Western Kentucky C 6' 10 245 18 yrs


29 Matisse Thybulle
Washington SG/SF 6' 6 200 22 yrs


49 Louis King
Oregon SF 6' 8 205 20 yrs

[Mugen]

Sekou is my guy at 19. Doubt he'll fall that far but I hope the Spurs can get him tbh.

[LCM]

Tankathon's mock has Spurs taking Goga at 19, while Rui Hachimura was taken 21 by OKC. Hachimura is consistently undervalued by Tankathon, but if the Spurs have the choice between these two prospects who gets taken? I'd draft Hachimura.

[spurraider21]

draft the guy who can play the role they were hoping cunningham/pondexter would occupy (watanabe last year for instance)

[Blackhaus]

Hachimura all day if he’s there at 19, I can’t believe he would still be on the board though

[CGD]

Tankathon's mock has Spurs taking Goga at 19, while Rui Hachimura was taken 21 by OKC. Hachimura is consistently undervalued by Tankathon, but if the Spurs have the choice between these two prospects who gets taken? I'd draft Hachimura.

Not sure how Tankatbon does their analysis. They have Spurs taking Roby at 29, where everyone else has him as a late 2nd.

[Dejounte]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=brandon-clarke--rui-hachimura--kz-okpala--grant-williams--kawhi-leonard

So I studied the best picks the SPURS can make...

Brandon Clarke's metrics are off the charts. He would play as a PF in the NBA since his offensive skills are lacking. But I think his game helps teams win. He would be a Draymond Green type for us.

Grant Williams. Websites have him listed as a PF but I don't think that's the case at all. He is a SF through and through in the next level. Dude's footwork and post up abilities remind me eerily of Kawhi Leonard. His metrics compare favorably as well. I think Grant would be an instant impact with the SPURS in the mold of Derrick White. I really hope his stock doesnt rise as getting him would be the steal of the draft. His wingspan may not be a freak, but his offensive game and defensive awareness make up for it. If we get Grant, we are set for the future with a great young core.

Rui Hachimura and KZ Okpala. These guys are on the same tier for me. Their metrics show they have areas they need to improve but their physical attributes match that of Kawhi. Rui's has some skill posting up while KZ reminds me of a faster Kyle Anderson, or a Jamal Crawford. Both of these guys for sure will spend a year in the G league.

So if I were to rank them:

1. Grant Williams
2. Brandon Clarke
3. Toss up between Rui and KZ

[LCM]

Not sure how Tankatbon does their analysis. They have Spurs taking Roby at 29, where everyone else has him as a late 2nd.

I wouldn't touch Roby at 29. There are too many potential prospects with greater offensive upside than Roby that could be available at 29. That 19 pick is going to be interesting, especially if someone like Hachimura drops because of age, Nasser Little because of limited action he received during the year, or if Goga gives NBA clubs an assurance that he will play in the NBA next year. If the Spurs do find a prospect they want, and they start to fall close to 19, who would be the team that the Spurs potentially could trade with? What front office would take a call and work a deal?

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs should trade that 2nd round and 29th pick move up....

[BatManu20]

Sekou is my guy at 19. Doubt he'll fall that far but I hope the Spurs can get him tbh.

Same. Great size & athleticism for a wing and only 18. Could be freakish with the right development. Think he’ll be long gone as well though

[BatManu20]

If Goga Bitadze is there at 18, I think Spurs would be hard-pressed to pass up on him. Good value at that point in the round but would likely be another Euro-stash that we wouldn’t see for a couple seasons.

[DAF86]

CBS Sports: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Draft order starting to fall into shape, Ja Morant jumps up to No. 2 selection
The first-round draft order is set outside of the lottery
by Gary Parrish GaryParrishCBS 23 hrs ago [AKA 14 April 2019]

Wait, why is that 6'8" guy, averaging 21 and 10 on 42 % 3pt shooting, projected to only go 29th?

[BatManu20]

And Tyler Herro seems like a guy that’s going to go top-15 when it’s all said and done. Good, young player with high upside imo.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs will probably take a risk on some top talent player with injury prone that fell down teh draft

or draft some clown in some lower college leagues to develop,

but i hope they do promote or give some guys on the torros a look first also... if those torros guys can be on spurs roster thats lacking a need, maybe not waste that draft pick on the same position

[exstatic]

Wait, why is that 6'8" guy, averaging 21 and 10 on 42 % 3pt shooting, projected to only go 29th?

Because those are college stats. Spurs used to draft like that. Alfrederick Hughes comes to mind.

[duncan2150]

Wait, why is that 6'8" guy, averaging 21 and 10 on 42 % 3pt shooting, projected to only go 29th?

he will turn 23 in march, he played at belmont and he is an average athlete. I think that's the reasons why he would be a late first or secound round pick.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Because those are college stats. Spurs used to draft like that. Alfrederick Hughes comes to mind.

I thought Bob Bass was given a couple of bucks by Drossos and sent to buy a draft magazine at a newstand and that's how they picked Alfrederick?

[exstatic]

I thought Bob Bass was given a couple of bucks by Drossos and sent to buy a draft magazine at a newstand and that's how they picked Alfrederick?

...based on college stats.

He was a beast of 'old stats', 24p/8r over his 4 year career, three time conference player of the year. There were warning signs, though. His FT% for the 4 years was only 65%, which meant he wasn't much of a shooter. He was also only 6'5". His career assist mark was 0.9. He pretty much feasted on college players, but it never translated.

There are really only a couple of tangible basketball skills that can be said to translate from one level of basketball to the next higher level: elite shooting and elite rebounding. Everything else is a crap shoot, and based on level of competition. You may be able to break guys down off the dribble in the NCAA, but not get past anyone in the NBA. That's why NBA GMs try to project athletic players. Not all of them can learn the skills they need, though.

[R. DeMurre]

Tankathon's mock has Spurs taking Goga at 19, while Rui Hachimura was taken 21 by OKC. Hachimura is consistently undervalued by Tankathon, but if the Spurs have the choice between these two prospects who gets taken? I'd draft Hachimura.


I saw one mock yesterday that had Hachimura in the top 10... Can't remember which one. Brandon Clarke seems to be all over the draft map too.

[FutureMan]

I’ve seen Hachimura as high as 4th and as low as 17th. Craziness.

[Chinook]

I saw one mock yesterday that had Hachimura in the top 10... Can't remember which one. Brandon Clarke seems to be all over the draft map too.

Clarke was the only player in Zion's stratosphere last year in terms of impact stats. He was much closer to Williamson than anyone else was to him. By that type of production alone, dude should be a top-five pick. But he's old and hasn't shown he can shoot, and that makes some worry about his ceiling in a bigger and more athletic league. How important you think upside is and how much you can accommodate Clarke's current (and maybe permanent) limitations would dictate a lot about where you'd feel comfortable taking him.

[DAF86]

Because those are college stats. Spurs used to draft like that. Alfrederick Hughes comes to mind.


he will turn 23 in march, he played at belmont and he is an average athlete. I think that's the reasons why he would be a late first or secound round pick.

Derrick White also fell down because he was relatively old and playing for a no-name college, tbh. Just saying.

[exstatic]

Derrick White also fell down because he was relatively old and playing for a no-name college, tbh. Just saying.

Colorado Boulder (CU) is not a no name college. It's in the PAC 12.

[DAF86]

Colorado Boulder (CU) is not a no name college. It's in the PAC 12.

"Lesser known college" is that better? Doesn't change the promise of my message though.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I suspect Spurs might do a 'George Hill' again by trading their beloved 'Dejounte Murray' for a higher pick.

I said the same thing in another thread and also earlier in this one. I understand people like the young man and think the sky is the limit with him but if the front office sees a guy who they think can be really good I think they will not bat an eye packaging Murray and a pick to move up and grab their guy.

With the way White has turned out and the fact that Murray will be coming up on an extension soon after making the all defensive 2nd team before his injury, the guy isn't going to want to take a discount. Now if they wait until after next season to extend him and he shows that he has worked on his jumper and overall game they should sign him.

Honestly though I think Murray is going to underwhelm a lot of folks expectations next season which can kill his trade value. Even though he is coming off an injury I think his trade value is gonna be high due to the unknown. I hope I'm wrong though and he comes back as a better offensive player next season.

[exstatic]

"Lesser known college" is that better? Doesn't change the promise of my message though.

Sure it does. The PAC-12 is a major conference. Chauncey Billups played at CU, as did Alec Burks, Jay Humphries, Andre Roberson, Spencer Dinwiddie, and Chris Copeland.

I can't even tell you what conference Belmont is in, nor do I care to look it up. The situations are not the same. The fact that they both played four years of college ball is eclipsed by the wildly different levels of competition, which is why White was projected as a late 1st or early 2nd, and Windler is projected as a late 2nd. He may or not make it in the NBA, but his projection is likely based on two strikes against him: four years of college, and low competition level.

[DAF86]

Sure it does. The PAC-12 is a major conference. Chauncey Billups played at CU, as did Alec Burks, Jay Humphries, Andre Roberson, Spencer Dinwiddie, and Chris Copeland.

I can't even tell you what conference Belmont is in, nor do I care to look it up. The situations are not the same. The fact that they both played four years of college ball is eclipsed by the wildly different levels of competition, which is why White was projected as a late 1st or early 2nd, and Windler is projected as a late 2nd. He may or not make it in the NBA, but his projection is likely based on two strikes against him: four years of college, and low competition level.

This whole argument started with me quoting a post that said Windler is projected to go 29. :lol

[exstatic]

This whole argument started with me quoting a post that said Windler is projected to go 29. :lol

That's pretty high. He's got the shooting gene, but I'm not sure how much more of his game will project into the NBA.

[Drom John]

Belmont is in the Ohio Valley Conference.

The only Belmont NBA player ever is Ian Clark (undrafted)
Best of 7 Austin Peay, Trenton Hassell (30th pick)
Best of 2 Eastern Illinois, Kevin Duckworth (33rd)
Best of 2 Eastern Kentucky, Jim Baechtold (2nd, way back in 1952)
Only Jacksonville State, Walker Russell (undrafted)
Best of 6 Morehead State, Kenneth Faried, (22nd)
Best of 11 Murray State, Cameron Payne (14th)
Best of 2 Southeast Missouri State, Antonius Cleveland (undrafted)
Best two of 10 Southern Illinois, Walt Frazier (5th) and Joe Meriweather (11th)
Best six of 19 Tennessee State, Dick Barnett (4th), Ben Warley (6th), Monti Davis (21), Porter Meriwether (21), Ted McClain (22), Truck Robinson (22)
Best of four Tennessee Tech, Kevin Murphy (47)
Only Tennessee Martin, Lester Hudson (58)

Former Ohio Valley Schools:
Akron
East Tennessee
Evansville
Louisville
Marshall
Middle Tennessee State
Samford
Western Kentucky
Youngstown State

[BackHome]

On tape he looks slow I guess he is a taller version of Forbes at best.

[cd021]

I said the same thing in another thread and also earlier in this one. I understand people like the young man and think the sky is the limit with him but if the front office sees a guy who they think can be really good I think they will not bat an eye packaging Murray and a pick to move up and grab their guy.

With the way White has turned out and the fact that Murray will be coming up on an extension soon after making the all defensive 2nd team before his injury, the guy isn't going to want to take a discount. Now if they wait until after next season to extend him and he shows that he has worked on his jumper and overall game they should sign him.

Honestly though I think Murray is going to underwhelm a lot of folks expectations next season which can kill his trade value. Even though he is coming off an injury I think his trade value is gonna be high due to the unknown. I hope I'm wrong though and he comes back as a better offensive player next season.

I don't get that logic. The Spurs thought he was going to break out last season before he went down, trading him now when his stock is low is selling very low. Forbes probably has as high of a trade value tbh Spurs should consider moving him.

Next season will be about him getting back in the fold and keeping him healthy. He is up for an extension but he missed a year and has yet to truly breakout.

Rich Paul probably won't be able to get him an especially big deal. I think the Spurs could re-sign him to a potentially good value deal, especially if after next season he takes a big step forward (it usually takes a full season after the injury for players to really return to form). Having him and White going forward is a definite plus, the Spurs should give that up without seeing how good it could be.

[BackHome]

I agree I think from what I have seen from Walker and Murray potential they will eat most of Forbes minutes. But I am only trading Forbes if we have a clear target and will get value back from the trade.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Derrick White also fell down because he was relatively old and playing for a no-name college, tbh. Just saying.


It's not just about being a no-name college. It's about the quality of their opponents. Racking up stats in the Ohio Valley Conference is not the same thing as doing it against PAC 12 competition.

Windler is a good kid. He's one of those guys you really want to see succeed. My opinion is that he's probably going to have a 3 year career in the G-League. If he makes an NBA team's rotation, I'll be happy for him. I just don't see how the Spurs can use their pick that way. If they get a solid pick at 19, then maybe they swing for the fence on a guy with big upside. If they do pick Windler, it will be like White - because they know a LOT more about him than we possibly can. I don't think they pick him at 29.

[TD 21]

No matter how you slice it, unless Murray becomes a high percentage and volume 3-point shooter, they're going to have to choose between him and DeRozan going forward and if all 3 of Murray, White and Walker hit or at least come close to the ceiling the front office supposedly thinks they have, they're going to have eventually make a decision among them too.

It's easy to say trade DeRozan, who's 7 years older. But his trade value would likely be very limited and they'd probably be concerned about the optics of trading a (pseudo) star 1 season after acquiring him and achieving relative success. There's also the psyche of the team, specifically Aldridge and Gay, to consider.

It's not difficult to envision Murray struggling alongside the starters, being marginalized as the season moves along and growing jealous of White. They could try to get out ahead of all this by offering him and a pick in an attempt to get into Hunter range. He'd make for a cleaner immediate fit alongside the mid three and as a long term one alongside White and Walker.

[BackHome]

I am cool with running all 3 Murray, White, Walker and see what they can do next season and curious what combination Pop can create. The odd people will be Mills and Forbes who will see a dramatic decline in minutes I know Pop won’t want to move either but I don’t see them getting the playing time they want.

[objective]

Games like tonight are why I want defenders in the draft. I'm sick of always having to double leading to made threes and shots because Mills, Marco, Forbes, Bertans, and DeRozan can't guard anybody

Get some guys who can be left on their own, damn.

After they spend a year in the g-league to be fair to the team of course

[Drom John]

Missing on my list of Ohio Valley draftees is the yet undrafted Ja Morant, projected to go #2 this year.
Belmont this year beat UCLA in LA, lost at Purdue, beat Temple in the NCAAs, then lost to Maryland by 2.

[pad300]

Tankathon's mock has Spurs taking Goga at 19, while Rui Hachimura was taken 21 by OKC. Hachimura is consistently undervalued by Tankathon, but if the Spurs have the choice between these two prospects who gets taken? I'd draft Hachimura.

IMO, Goga easily between the two of them. Younger and impressing in Euroleague (the 2nd hardest league in the world), shows a lot of promise. Hachimura doesn't do all that much besides score...

[cd021]

I am cool with running all 3 Murray, White, Walker and see what they can do next season and curious what combination Pop can create. The odd people will be Mills and Forbes who will see a dramatic decline in minutes I know Pop won’t want to move either but I don’t see them getting the playing time they want.

I have been on record saying that the Murray, White, DDR, LMA, and Jakob lineup could be a disaster offensively.

That units best 3 pt shooter is still low volume and only around league average (White). The spacing would be out of wack unless Murray can knock down open 3s. If Forbes is to play a role on next year's team, then this would be the scenario;

Murray, Forbes, DDR, LMA, Poeltl
Mills, White, Bertans, Gay

Its a more logical lineup; White would be able play around 28 mpg off the bench, and be able to run the offense for long periods of time as well as close (with Bertans/ Gay at the 4, minimizing the spacing issues)

Starting Forbes and White off the bench means that Beli and Walker are on the outside of the rotation. Beli will be 34 iirc and it probably makes sense to bench him if PATFO thinks Forbes is a long term piece.

Walker probably wasn't going to be able to get minutes anyway. After next season, something would have to give, that might mean that White slides over to guard and Walker becomes the backup 2 while Mills is a deep bench player his final year of his deal.

Still would like to see PATFO shop Forbes as means of moving up in the draft though.

[cd021]

IMO, Goga easily between the two of them. Younger and impressing in Euroleague (the 2nd hardest league in the world), shows a lot of promise. Hachimura doesn't do all that much besides score...

Haven't seen much of Rui but he looks like a good athlete but also can't/doesn't take 3s. At 6'8 he looks more like a 4 than a 3. That probably isn't a big deal, especially if he can still defend on the perimeter. I am very high on Goga tbh but am split on who they should take if either fall to 19. Probably Rui though.

[Drom John]

CBS: NBA: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Duke's Zion Williamson enters draft and no doubt will be the first pick
Zion will be top pick as the first-round draft order is set outside of the lottery
by Gary Parrish GaryParrishCBS Apr 16, 2019 at 8:30 am ET


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Keldon Johnson | Kentucky | Fr | SG | 6-6

Kentucky should have three players selected in the top 20 of this NBA Draft — and they really could go in any order. For what it's worth, I have Johnson the last to come off the board. But if he's actiually the first, it won't be surprising considering the 6-6 wing is a nice athlete who shot 38.1 percent from 3-point range on three attempts per game this season. He was a big reason why Kentucky was just a shot away from making the Final Four for the fifth time in a 10-year span under John Calipari.


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Pick acquired via trade with Toronto

Dylan Windler | Belmont | Sr | SG | 6-8

Windler entered Belmont as a mostly unheralded prospect but is leaving as one of the nation's most productive players. The 6-8 senior averaged 21.3 points and 10.8 rebounds in 33.2 minutes per game this season while registering the nation's 10th-best Player Efficiency Rating and leading the Bruins to their first win in NCAA Tournament history. Beyond that, Windler shot above 42 percent from 3-point range in each of the past two seasons, which suggests he'll be a reliable shooter in the NBA and a space-the-floor forward.

[Drom John]

SBNation:
NBA mock draft 2019: Zion Williamson is a lock to go No. 1. Is Ja Morant No. 2?
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Everyone knows who’s going No. 1 in the NBA Draft. That makes the second pick the true starting point.
By Ricky O'Donnell Apr 16, 2019, 7:00am EDT


19. San Antonio Spurs - Grant Williams, F, Tennessee

Williams won SEC Player of the Year as a sophomore and then improved his numbers drastically across the board as a junior. The 6’7, 240-pound forward is a strong rebounder, versatile defender, and high-IQ offensive player who can move the ball and finish efficiently. He projects as a rugged role-player who feels like a perfect fit on the Spurs.


29. San Antonio Spurs - Luka Samanic, F, Croatia

A pure shooter at 6’11 who will need to prove he can handle the physicality of a front court position in the NBA.

[Drom John]

Fansided: Sir Charles in Charge: NBA Mock Draft 2.0: Ja Morant continues to rise; Cam Reddish falls
by Michael Saenz 10 hours ago [AKA 17 April 2019]


19. San Antonio Spurs – Tyler Herro, G, Kentucky

Other than having arguably the best name in the 2019 NBA Draft, Tyler Herro is a prospect that there is a lot to like. He has shown the ability to score a number of ways on the floor, and has the ability to be a good 3-point shooter at the next level.
00:04 / 00:15
SKIP AD

Plus, he’s the type of player that you just assume will find success under the tutelage of Gregg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs. He won’t be asked to start right away, and will have room to grow with a number of the team’s other young prospects.

This is almost like a match made in heaven if it all comes together. He could be the eventual replacement for DeMar DeRozan, when they move on from each other.


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors) – Daniel Gafford, C, Indiana

Back-to-back centers taken in the 2019 NBA Draft? Yes, it’s quite amazing that this would happen in the modern NBA, but that’s exactly what could happen with the Warriors and Spurs. San Antonio could use a natural center, and Daniel Gafford fits the mold.
00:03 / 00:15
SKIP AD

Gafford is 6-foot-11 and averaged a double-double while blocking 2.5 shots per game during his sophomore season at Indiana. He returned to school last season, but didn’t help his draft stock all that much.

Now, he’s ready to make the jump to the association, and what better place to do that with the Spurs.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Bold Predictions for Low-Profile Prospects
Steve Silverman
April 17, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs, C Goga Bitadze, Buducnost


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto Raptors), SF-PF Isaiah Roby, Nebraska

[LCM]

IMO, Goga easily between the two of them. Younger and impressing in Euroleague (the 2nd hardest league in the world), shows a lot of promise. Hachimura doesn't do all that much besides score...

Wouldn't mind Goga being the pick with what you are saying, especially if he wants to come over next year. If he's the pick, Goga could get teaching from LMA and TD. We need to be training a big that can do pick and pop on the perimeter and scoring on the low block. You still need a post presence from a big offensively.

Hachimura is a younger Rudy Gay clone that will need to better his defense and also his rebounding. The rebounding does concern me. Clarke grabbing a lot of boards can skew the numbers. Both would be great options if the draft falls this way.

[ceperez]

This guy might be with reach of pick #29 or even #49: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26430314/lithuanian-prospect-sirvydis-enters-nba-draft

[cd021]

Hachimura is a younger Rudy Gay clone that will need to better his defense and also his rebounding. The rebounding does concern me. Clarke grabbing a lot of boards can skew the numbers. Both would be great options if the draft falls this way.

After watching his highlights, I do see him as a younger Gay. He is likely an NBA power forward and but his rebounding is a concern, he only averaged 6.5 rebounds in 30 minutes and pretty much didn't take 3s. He does look like a great athlete and a finisher but he is going to need a good mid-range and a decent 3pt jumper but is obtainable.

[exstatic]

After watching his highlights, I do see him as a younger Gay. He is likely an NBA power forward and but his rebounding is a concern, he only averaged 6.5 rebounds in 30 minutes and pretty much didn't take 3s. He does look like a great athlete and a finisher but he is going to need a good mid-range and a decent 3pt jumper but is obtainable.

Why do posters here want him? It doesn't sound like he does anything at an NBA level. The two skills that translate from one level of basketball to the next higher level are elite shooting and elite rebounding. I'll just leave it at that.

[Drom John]

The Ringer: Kevin O'Connor's Big Board
Updated 4.16

NOT TEAM DEPENDENT.



1 9
RUI HACHIMURA Forward Gonzaga

PTS 19.7 26.1 per 40
REB 6.5 8.6 per 40
AST 1.5 2.0 per 40
EFG% 60.8 465 FGA
STL 0.9 1.3 per 40
BLK 0.7 1.0 per 40
3PT% 41.7 36 3PA
FT% 73.9 222 FTA

Main Selling Point Offensive versatility
Age21.2
Height/Weight6'8''/230
Wingspan7'2''

Raw talent born in Japan who’s progressed considerably in college to become a versatile scorer, but still has so far to go before his game can translate to the NBA.
Shades Of: The Morris twins, Jabari Parker, washed Carmelo Anthony
PLUSES

Tremendous physical tools with a thick frame, long arms, and fluid athleticism. He’s activated these traits with improved ballhandling moves going coast-to-coast after rebounds.
Potential mismatch scorer who can be used all over the court: He’s an effective post scorer, a powerful straight-line driver, a willing cutter, and an improving spot-up shooter.
Comfortable handling the ball and shooting off the dribble from the short midrange; at his rate of improvement, perhaps he’ll someday extend his range to 3.
Versatile close-range finisher who can score above the rim with touch using either hand. He’s a willing screener and could be useful in the pick-and-roll.
Has the tools to be a versatile defender with a sturdy frame, long arms, athleticism, a willingness to learn, and a proven track record of making improvements.
Hard worker on and off the floor who has gotten better each season. Hachimura didn’t start playing organized basketball until he was 14; he’s in the early stages of his development.

MINUSES

The game moves too fast for him on offense; he’s a poor decision-maker who’s slow to read the floor. Even when he does pass, he delivers the ball inaccurately.
Needs to be stronger with the ball; he powered through college players but savvier defenders knew to strip the ball because of his tendency to bring it down.
Reads the floor on defense at Windows 98 speeds; he’s a liability in the pick-and-roll, gets caught in no-man’s-land, and is late to rotate in help situations.
Needs to be more physical to improve his rebounding, which would help compensate for his defensive imitations.




2 9
CAMERON JOHNSON Forward North Carolina

PTS 16.9 22.6 per 40
REB 5.8 7.7 per 40
AST 2.4 3.2 per 40
EFG% 62.0 418 FGA
STL 1.2 1.6 per 40
BLK 0.3 0.4 per 40
3PT% 45.7 210 3PA
FT% 81.8 110 FTA

Main Selling Point Shooting
Age23.1
Height/Weight6'9''/210
WingspanN/A

Effective shooter who presents value for teams in need of a tall, floor-spacing role player.
Shades Of: Nemanja Bjelica, Jonas Jerebko, Dorian Finney-Smith
PLUSES

Good spot-up shooter with a compact form and good footwork. He has the body control to balance himself midair to hit shots off movement.
Uses screens and relocates at an NBA level. If he masters his off-screen shooting, he could become a tough cover due to his size.
Runs the floor hard in transition. He’s a leak-out threat who will benefit from NBA pace.
Average passer who won’t be tasked with playmaking responsibilities, but he tends to make the right play within the flow of the offense.
Selfless player who accepts his role next to more ball-dominant players. He’s happy playing a role, cutting and spotting up.
Projects as a solid positional defender who resists fouling while sliding and has solid off-ball awareness.

MINUSES

Underwent an arthroscopic procedure on his left hip in 2018 to correct a bone impingement and a torn labrum. He gets banged up often during games, too.
Unable to create much off the dribble. Average athlete with a slow first step; he takes short, choppy steps on drives. His shot also isn’t quite as accurate off the dribble.
Subpar at-rim finisher against length, and he rarely draws fouls. Despite his height, he’s also not a post threat.
Improved perimeter defender following his hip procedure but he’s still stiff moving laterally, and struggles to contain scorers who change directions quickly.
Lacks ideal strength to be an effective defender on switches against larger players. He’s also not a great rebounder for his size.

[lmbebo]

The Ringer: Kevin O'Connor's Big Board
Updated 4.16

NOT TEAM DEPENDENT.

Johnson sounds like he has FAI, and if not mistaken, the same ailment that Isiah Thomas has.

[Drom John]

Yardbarker:
2019 NBA mock draft: First round
Posted 16 hours ago | By Pat Heery
[AKA 17 April 2019]


19 of 30
San Antonio Spurs: PJ Washington, Kentucky

Instead of focusing on the things Washington can't do (like shoot free throws), NBA teams would be smart to notice all of the little things Washington does extremely well. For instance, this guy is always around the ball, whether he's getting offensive rebounds, tip-outs, blocked shots, loose balls, etc. That's an intangible trait that only good basketball players possess. He's also a gamer and always seemed to show up big in Kentucky's toughest games. (Check out his stats in the tournament during his career at Kentucky.) He won't be a star in the NBA, but he projects to be a great role player and should be able to contribute off the bench for a playoff team almost immediately. In other words, he's the ideal Spurs player.
Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports


29 of 30
San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors): Carsen Edwards, Purdue

Edwards' Kemba Walker impersonation during March Madness certainly did his draft stock some favors. Instead of being viewed as a chucker, like he was for much of the Big Ten regular season, Edwards is now being seen as a player who can carry an average Purdue team to the cusp of a Final Four almost entirely on his own. The unlimited range and impressive shot-making ability he displayed this March were truly amazing and probably solidified his draft stock as a late-first-, early-second round pick. Every team could use a spark plug guard off the bench, and Edwards certainly fits that mold. He'd be an ideal long-term replacement for Patty Mills in San Antonio.
Jamie Rhodes-USA TODAY Sports

[sasaint]

No matter how you slice it, unless Murray becomes a high percentage and volume 3-point shooter, they're going to have to choose between him and DeRozan going forward and if all 3 of Murray, White and Walker hit or at least come close to the ceiling the front office supposedly thinks they have, they're going to have eventually make a decision among them too.

It's easy to say trade DeRozan, who's 7 years older. But his trade value would likely be very limited and they'd probably be concerned about the optics of trading a (pseudo) star 1 season after acquiring him and achieving relative success. There's also the psyche of the team, specifically Aldridge and Gay, to consider.

It's not difficult to envision Murray struggling alongside the starters, being marginalized as the season moves along and growing jealous of White. They could try to get out ahead of all this by offering him and a pick in an attempt to get into Hunter range. He'd make for a cleaner immediate fit alongside the mid three and as a long term one alongside White and Walker.

Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs are dead-on. But I do not see the “optics” problem at all. Even if I did they would be trumped by more important considerations.

It sorta reminds me of Portland over the past couple of decades. They have assembled an excellent group of young talented players on 2 or 3 occasions and looked forward (unrealistically) to seeing that group develop together only to lose all those guys within a season or two - and not all by injury. Unless your owner has super-deep pockets it is just not possible to keep a group of good young players together. In 3-4 years the Spurs might not have more than one of Murray, White and Lonnie.

[exstatic]

Yardbarker:
2019 NBA mock draft: First round
Posted 16 hours ago | By Pat Heery
[AKA 17 April 2019]

I'd rather swing and miss at 19 than pick a guy who already projects as having a 'role player' ceiling. Oh, and players who can't shoot FTs as a rule can't shoot otherwise.

[exstatic]

Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs are dead-on. But I do not see the “optics” problem at all. Even if I did they would be trumped by more important considerations.

It sorta reminds me of Portland over the past couple of decades. They have assembled an excellent group of young talented players on 2 or 3 occasions and looked forward (unrealistically) to seeing that group develop together only to lose all those guys within a season or two - and not all by injury. Unless your owner has super-deep pockets it is just not possible to keep a group of good young players together. In 3-4 years the Spurs might not have more than one of Murray, White and Lonnie.

Other than LaMarcus taking a walk, Portland's problems keeping players have almost ALL been injury related.

[cd021]

Why do posters here want him? It doesn't sound like he does anything at an NBA level. The two skills that translate from one level of basketball to the next higher level are elite shooting and elite rebounding. I'll just leave it at that.

6.5 Rebounds isn't great for a player that projects as an NBA 4 but it could be worse, as another poster mentioned. It could be in part because of his team mates. Last season he managed to grab about 5 rpg in 20 mpg, which is above average so that may be the case.

He has excellent length and looks like he is able to get steals, deflections and blocks as a result. His mid range game looks good and appears to be a solid ball handler who can attack and finish off the dribble effectively. He also gets to the line at very good clip - 6.0 per game in just 30 mpg.

As a 4, he is intriguing. Rui looks like he has the body to possibly hold his own against other 4's while also being take opposing 4's off the dribble, knock down pull ups, potentially hit spot up 3's and may be able to defend on the perimeter.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fansided: Sir Charles in Charge: NBA Mock Draft 2.0: Ja Morant continues to rise; Cam Reddish falls
by Michael Saenz 10 hours ago [AKA 17 April 2019]


Guys like Reddish are going to swing on how they look in the combine. Every guy who moves down a few spaces means that several others move up. That's why it's impossible to guess this early who will fall to which spot. The best you can do is try to figure out who fits the team's needs, and might be in the ballpark at the Spurs' picks.

The Spurs need a small forward with legitimate 6'8"-ish length. They aren't going to get a Top 5 pick at 19, so whoever they get is going to have some shortcomings. They can either go for a solid player who they think will be able to get better, or swing for the fence with an unproven kid who flashes raw talent. I don't think they can swing for the fence and take a chance on falling on their asses.

[BackHome]

I agree the optics are going to say this is the KY trade draft if you pick up solid to good players with the two picks you come out even or maybe slightly ahead of the trade. With that said they will gamble a little but won’t over reach as always.

[cd021]

I agree the optics are going to say this is the KY trade draft if you pick up solid to good players with the two picks you come out even or maybe slightly ahead of the trade. With that said they will gamble a little but won’t over reach as always.

If you're talking about the Leonard trade, why would our own pick factor into the post trade talk?

Spurs found an A trade and managed to come away with a C grade. The original deal was reportedly Gasol and Kawhi for Poeltl, DDR, and a 1st. Subbing in Green was a disaster and made Toronto significantly better and the pick that they received in return several selections worse.

One of the finest examples of hustling backwards I've seen recently.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

If you're talking about the Leonard trade, why would our own pick factor into the post trade talk?

Spurs found an A trade and managed to come away with a C grade. The original deal was reportedly Gasol and Kawhi for Poeltl, DDR, and a 1st. Subbing in Green was a disaster and made Toronto significantly better and the pick that they received in return several selections worse.

One of the finest examples of hustling backwards I've seen recently.

Is that for real? Where was this reported??

[cd021]

Is that for real? Where was this reported??

I believe that it was Windhorst, he was sort of the lead in reporting on the trade. I first heard that Toronto was in the mix from him on Lowe's podcast. Sounds like at the last minute, Gasol was swapped out and Green in.

[Mr. Body]

I believe that it was Windhorst, he was sort of the lead in reporting on the trade. I first heard that Toronto was in the mix from him on Lowe's podcast. Sounds like at the last minute, Gasol was swapped out and Green in.

Windhorst? C'mon, man. :lol

[cd021]

Windhorst? C'mon, man. :lol
Lowe, iirc confirmed that he heard the same thing. You got better sauces, my dude? You holding out?

[duncan2150]

One thing about the Denver Series is that we need Inside guys , we don't have a real PF or C after Aldridge and Poetl and Nothing to stop a guy like Millsap on defense.

We could add that players by fa but imo the draft could be interesting with a lot of guys who could be available with our picks ( bassey, bitadze, kagengele, reid, Fernando) and having a Young big for a cheap contrat and four years is not that bad.

[Mr. Body]

Lowe, iirc confirmed that he heard the same thing. You got better sauces, my dude? You holding out?

I'm not making the claim, bro.

[TDMVPDPOY]

who on the spurs is worth a lottery pick trade straight up?

[Mr. Body]

who on the spurs is worth a lottery pick trade straight up?

Derrick White.

[timvp]

Doumbouya picked Bouna Ndiaye as his agent. That's interesting because he's the same agent that hid Mahinmi for the Spurs and went to great lengths to try to get Batum to fall to the Spurs (by starting a heart murmur rumor, IIRC).

[ZeusWillJudge]

Doumbouya picked Bouna Ndiaye as his agent. That's interesting because he's the same agent that hid Mahinmi for the Spurs and went to great lengths to try to get Batum to fall to the Spurs (by starting a heart murmur rumor, IIRC).


Secret dinners with Pop?

[John B]

19th Hachimura, 29th Ozeke 49th athletic big

[BD24]

19th Hachimura, 29th Ozeke 49th athletic big
I don’t think Hachimura is gonna drop to 19 player. Would be nice if he did though

[lmbebo]

Doumbouya picked Bouna Ndiaye as his agent. That's interesting because he's the same agent that hid Mahinmi for the Spurs and went to great lengths to try to get Batum to fall to the Spurs (by starting a heart murmur rumor, IIRC).

Projected lottery pick too I believe ...

[TD 21]

Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs are dead-on. But I do not see the “optics” problem at all. Even if I did they would be trumped by more important considerations.

It sorta reminds me of Portland over the past couple of decades. They have assembled an excellent group of young talented players on 2 or 3 occasions and looked forward (unrealistically) to seeing that group develop together only to lose all those guys within a season or two - and not all by injury. Unless your owner has super-deep pockets it is just not possible to keep a group of good young players together. In 3-4 years the Spurs might not have more than one of Murray, White and Lonnie.

Because you're thinking like a typical fan, in terms of strictly what's best for the team. Every franchise will spout that, but they take more into consideration than that (perception, politics, PR, etc.)

If I had my druthers, they'd trade DeRozan for something like Bridges, Batum and a lottery protected 1st and kick the likely Murray, White, Walker decision down the road (if they pan out at or close to expected, only two are probably retained when it's time to pay them and White is already close to a virtual lock).

Realistically though, they're not making the DeRozan or Murray decision this off season. They'll let this team play together for a season, then figure things out afterwards.

[sasaint]

Because you're thinking like a typical fan, in terms of strictly what's best for the team. Every franchise will spout that, but they take more into consideration than that (perception, politics, PR, etc.)

If I had my druthers, they'd trade DeRozan for something like Bridges, Batum and a lottery protected 1st and kick the likely Murray, White, Walker decision down the road (if they pan out at or close to expected, only two are probably retained when it's time to pay them and White is already close to a virtual lock).

Realistically though, they're not making the DeRozan or Murray decision this off season. They'll let this team play together for a season, then figure things out afterwards.

I agree that the team will more than likely retain Dumbmar, Murray, White and Lonnie this season. I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with "optics."

[tonight...you]

I agree that the team will more than likely retain Dumbmar, Murray, White and Lonnie this season. I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with "optics."
Pop and the Spurs play the game by optics? Cool.
Maybe they'll finally learn their lesson by missing the playoffs next season.

[BackHome]

Nope stay with exact same players next year we will have a better record if healthy. But I agree we need slightly better talent then Cunningham and Poindexter for some reason I think one of them will be on Spurs staff next season.

[Dennis the Menace]

How low in the draft could they move down by packaging the 19th and 29th?

[objective]

Sooo ... I don't see Chuma Okeke anywhere on an early entry declared list. Deadline is April 21. I hope he doesn't stay in school, I could see him as a Spurs pick easy

[Patt]

Chuma okeke just declared, heres hoping he is still available at 29

[BackHome]

He will be don’t know if we draft him and pay him one for sitting in rehab

[kobyz]

my draft big board:

1. Zion Williamson
2. RJ Barrett
3. Ja Morant
4. DeAndre Hunter
5. Coby White
6. Rui Hachimura
7. Keldon Johnson
8. Jarrett Culver
9. Bol Bol
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Bruno Fernando
12. Charles Bassey
13. Ty Jerome
14. Goga Bitadze
15. Darius Garland
16. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
17. Cameron Reddish
18. Louis King
19. KZ Okpala
20. Nassir Little
21. Sekou Doumbouya
22. Mfiondu Kabengele
23. PJ Washington
24. Cameron Johnson
25. Daniel Gafford
26. Brandon Clarke
27. Chuma Okeke
28. Tyler Herro
29. Romeo Langford
30. Ignas Brazdeikis

* this is a deep draft, for our first pick #19 i hope Bitzade fall to us, if not one of the wing in the 17-21 range are fine enough... for our later pick #29 i really hope we can get a one of the wings Okeke/Cam Johnson to fall to us, or at the very least one of the athletic bigs Gafford/Clarke...

[exstatic]

my draft big board:

1. Zion Williamson
2. RJ Barrett
3. Ja Morant
4. DeAndre Hunter
5. Coby White
6. Rui Hachimura
7. Keldon Johnson
8. Jarrett Culver
9. Bol Bol
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Bruno Fernando
12. Charles Bassey
13. Ty Jerome
14. Goga Bitadze
15. Darius Garland
16. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
17. Cameron Reddish
18. Louis King
19. KZ Okpala
20. Nassir Little
21. Sekou Doumbouya
22. Mfiondu Kabengele
23. PJ Washington
24. Cameron Johnson
25. Daniel Gafford
26. Brandon Clarke
27. Chuma Okeke
28. Tyler Herro
29. Romeo Langford
30. Ignas Brazdeikis

* this is a deep draft, for our first pick #19 i hope Bitzade fall to us, if not one of the wing in the 17-21 range are fine enough... for our later pick #29 i really hope we can get a one of the wings Okeke/Cam Johnson to fall to us, or at the very least one of the athletic bigs Gafford/Clarke...

It’s an awful draft. This may go down with 2000 as one of the worst ever. The talent just drops off a cliff after the first three picks. I’m so glad we’re not in the lottery. Teams picking in the top ten will get late lottery/post lottery talent. Oh, and LOLBoston. Hellava year to have three first rounders. F Danny Ainge. 😀

[duncan2150]

It’s an awful draft. This may go down with 2000 as one of the worst ever. The talent just drops off a cliff after the first three picks. I’m so glad we’re not in the lottery. Teams picking in the top ten will get late lottery/post lottery talent. Oh, and LOLBoston. Hellava year to have three first rounders. F Danny Ainge. 

Imo That's not an awful draft , You Will have a lot of good role Player , This draft is loaded with Young guns who should be good in 2-3 years

[pad300]

It’s an awful draft. This may go down with 2000 as one of the worst ever. The talent just drops off a cliff after the first three picks. I’m so glad we’re not in the lottery. Teams picking in the top ten will get late lottery/post lottery talent. Oh, and LOLBoston. Hellava year to have three first rounders. F Danny Ainge. ��

Don't think I agree. I suspect that there are a bunch of decent players in this draft. The issue is that the talent has not differentiated itself. For example, I am confident that one or two (maybe even 3 or 4) of the following are going to turn out to be good bigs: Kabengele, Bassey, Gafford, Fernando, Bitadze, Queta (if he stays in), Claxton (if he stays in), Reid, Shittu (not to mention Bol Bol, Porter and Hayes). How to tell the sheep from the goats is the challenge, and it's one that the Spurs have demonstrated a lot of skill at. A draft like this can (and IMO likely will) result in a good player falling to us...

[keithington1]

Right now I like Rui or Keldon Johnson for 19. And then Okpala, Cameron Johnson, or Roby for the 29th pick. Maybe Okpala at 19 if those 2 are gone

[Atl Spur]

Dembouya + Okeke . One can be stashed/seasoned and the other can be red-shirted. Then hopefully we can get a known talent with upside like Taurean Prince. I still want to look at Stanley Johnson / Huestis / Moore this off-season.

[cd021]

It’s an awful draft. This may go down with 2000 as one of the worst ever. The talent just drops off a cliff after the first three picks. I’m so glad we’re not in the lottery. Teams picking in the top ten will get late lottery/post lottery talent. Oh, and LOLBoston. Hellava year to have three first rounders. F Danny Ainge. 

2000 had 3 payers make an all star team all three made just 1 NBA all star game (coincidentally the 2004 draft). Think there is good talent outside of the lottery with the chances to be good.

If Zion hits, then this draft will already be significantly better than the Kenyon Martin lead class. three all stars is a very low bar to clear. No way this class will be worse than 2000, likely not even close.

[ZeusWillJudge]

The latest mock from NBAdraft.net has a new name at 29 - Kris Wilkes out of USC. He's listed at 6'8" on their board. He's not. He's yet ANOTHER 6'6" player in socks, who has somehow grown two inches ahead of the draft. He had people hyping him as a lottery pick last year, and when that wasn't going to happen he went back to USC for his sophomore year.

[Nobull]

Nassir Little is a nice player.

[DPG21920]

Anyone going to the draft this year? I’ve been 3 years in a row and it’s great.

[exstatic]

Nassir Little is a nice player.

He'll be gone at least 10 spots before we pick.

[BackHome]

This draft is weird Little and Rui are now all over the place seen Rui in a couple of mocks going 20 and 21 and seen one were Little was taking by us recently. So either they going 12 to 15 or falling past us? I wish we could trade or buy one of Philly high Second draft pick lots of players with talent that I would not mind taking a gamble on.

[ZeusWillJudge]

This draft is weird Little and Rui are now all over the place seen Rui in a couple of mocks going 20 and 21 and seen one were Little was taking by us recently. So either they going 12 to 15 or falling past us? I wish we could trade or buy one of Philly high Second draft pick lots of players with talent that I would not mind taking a gamble on.

Mock drafts are always schizophrenic. But this year seems to be worse than normal. Maybe it's because there's a whole new crop of Millennial "journalists" who are writing for a while new crop of internet-only sports publications. I've seen guys projected in the top 10 who are also projected as second-rounders. Sometimes it's the same website, just a week or so apart.

I mentioned it above, but I'm also getting a little tired of guys being listed with totally bogus heights in all these mock drafts. I've been told recently that there are a lot more publicists now, working the media to try and generate some buzz for players ahead of the draft. And that even college coaches are working it, because if it even sounds like one of their guys has a shot at being a lottery pick, it helps them with recruiting. I don't know if any of that is true, but from some of the things I think there's some truth to it.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I feel that if the Spurs bring over Milutinov he could really help right away. Bringing him over would slow the need to draft another player who can only play the 4/5. If for some reason the front office has a guy who plays that position high on their board then they should of course grab them but Milutinov's draft rights could be traded. The guy is playing well in a good league and can most likely be a solid NBA player.

Hopefully we are able to grab a good 3&D wing player

[exstatic]

I feel that if the Spurs bring over Milutinov he could really help right away. Bringing him over would slow the need to draft another player who can only play the 4/5. If for some reason the front office has a guy who plays that position high on their board then they should of course grab them but Milutinov's draft rights could be traded. The guy is playing well in a good league and can most likely be a solid NBA player.

Hopefully we are able to grab a good 3&D wing player

How's Milutinov going to help right away? He's a true center who's not better than LaMarcus, and is not better than Poeltl. No need to pay a third string center a big chunk of the MLE. He's off the rookie scale now, and can up his asking price.

If you pick some kid at #29, he can be had for like ~$1M and change.

[R. DeMurre]

my draft big board:

1. Zion Williamson
2. RJ Barrett
3. Ja Morant
4. DeAndre Hunter
5. Coby White
6. Rui Hachimura
7. Keldon Johnson
8. Jarrett Culver
9. Bol Bol
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Bruno Fernando
12. Charles Bassey
13. Ty Jerome
14. Goga Bitadze
15. Darius Garland
16. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
17. Cameron Reddish
18. Louis King
19. KZ Okpala
20. Nassir Little
21. Sekou Doumbouya
22. Mfiondu Kabengele
23. PJ Washington
24. Cameron Johnson
25. Daniel Gafford
26. Brandon Clarke
27. Chuma Okeke
28. Tyler Herro
29. Romeo Langford
30. Ignas Brazdeikis

* this is a deep draft, for our first pick #19 i hope Bitzade fall to us, if not one of the wing in the 17-21 range are fine enough... for our later pick #29 i really hope we can get a one of the wings Okeke/Cam Johnson to fall to us, or at the very least one of the athletic bigs Gafford/Clarke...

Brandon Clarke is all over the charts in mocks-- it's going to be interesting to see where he goes. Statistically, the only college player who impresses more than Clarke is Zion. The thing I like about him is how defensive minded he is, which is something that will most likely translate to the NBA. One pretty convincing article (https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/03/analyzing-brandon-clarkes-nba-potential/) mentions his potential as both a big wing and a small ball center. He shares a similar history with Derrick White as an older player who transferred to a Major school for a year and put up impressive numbers.

[DPG21920]

On one hand SA has the means to move up or move back for more attractive 2nd round picks by giving up 29. On the other hand they may not feel the need to move up if there isn’t a big gap from picks 10-19.

Will be very interesting to see what SA does this draft.

[BackHome]

How's Milutinov going to help right away? He's a true center who's not better than LaMarcus, and is not better than Poeltl. No need to pay a third string center a big chunk of the MLE. He's off the rookie scale now, and can up his asking price.

If you pick some kid at #29, he can be had for like ~$1M and change.

If your in win now mode you bring Nikola over as it takes bigs two years to grasp offense and defensive schemes. The only center who could play right away would be Goga but then you have used 2 first round picks on a Center. That’s why I want us to either bring him over or use him in a trade I think he could get us 13th pick and second round pick for Nikola and our 19th pick.

[exstatic]

If your in win now mode you bring Nikola over as it takes bigs two years to grasp offense and defensive schemes. The only center who could play right away would be Goga but then you have used 2 first round picks on a Center. That’s why I want us to either bring him over or use him in a trade I think he could get us 13th pick and second round pick for Nikola and our 19th pick.
That statement makes absolutely no sense. If you're in win now mode, why bring over a player that will take two years to develop? That's not "winning now". He'll also be third string. He'll also want to be paid. Guards an wings are the future. You won't need more than maybe two post players on your roster, and we already have that.

Oh, and check the rosters in Europe. You could put together a pretty credible team of Spurs draftees that never came over. It happens.

[BackHome]

I understand I just hate having throwing away a first round draft pick for nothing. So I agree I would rather use him in a trade to move up in this draft grab our starting SF as bringing him would cost to much $$.

[objective]

How's Milutinov going to help right away? He's a true center who's not better than LaMarcus, and is not better than Poeltl. No need to pay a third string center a big chunk of the MLE. He's off the rookie scale now, and can up his asking price.

If you pick some kid at #29, he can be had for like ~$1M and change.

I happen to think Milutinov can be better then Poeltl. Beyond that, Poeltl is going to be rfa next summer, and Milutinov under contract would be Poeltl insurance. And if they start Poeltl full time, maybe not a bad idea considering Rudy Gay's drop off, then I like the idea of having a legit center behind him to come in and do the dirty work for the bench, hard screens and rebounding. Even with Aldridge on the team, I think he's been played too many minutes in the regular season often as the lone big, and those are hard minutes. Maybe Poeltl won't be the starter, I suppose that Dejounte in the lineup could rebound enough and defend enough to use Bertans as the PF, but we'll see.

Another thing is that the market this summer makes doesn't look like it has much more guys at the Spurs needs and at their price range. Most other teams will have capspace and the ability to outspend the mle for the most useful candidates. And other guys who could have been mle players fell apart like Stanley Johnson and should end up being cheap enough that the full mle is overpay.

Maybe Trevor Ariza is an MLE guy, and that'd be fine, but he's close enough to Washed Up Lake that I wouldn't be super confident in his contributions. I could see him at more than mle though

[GusT15]

That statement makes absolutely no sense. If you're in win now mode, why bring over a player that will take two years to develop? That's not "winning now". He'll also be third string. He'll also want to be paid. Guards an wings are the future. You won't need more than maybe two post players on your roster, and we already have that.

Oh, and check the rosters in Europe. You could put together a pretty credible team of Spurs draftees that never came over. It happens.

Pretty much

PG-
SG-Hanga
SF-Dangubic
PF-Printezis (Lorbek)
C-Millutinov (Gist)

Millutinov is too expensive for what he's going to provide AFTER getting acclimated to NBA bball

[Dejounte]

Why the hell is Milutonov hyped here? This euroscrub had shown nothing. Better than Poetl? Lmao

[K...]

Pretty much

PG-
SG-Hanga
SF-Dangubic
PF-Printezis (Lorbek)
C-Millutinov (Gist)

Millutinov is too expensive for what he's going to provide AFTER getting acclimated to NBA bball

Did you forget nando?

Or is this just draft picks.

[GusT15]

Did you forget nando?

Nando played in the NBA he's not part of those that never made the jump

[cd021]

Why the hell is Milutonov hyped here? This euroscrub had shown nothing. Better than Poetl? Lmao

He's been productive oversee's not sure what you're talking about. 11.7 ppg and 7.9 rpg, (3.5 O rpg) in 26 mpg on 66% FG. Not better than Jacob but he could end up being a very solid rotation player.

[cd021]

I happen to think Milutinov can be better then Poeltl. Beyond that, Poeltl is going to be rfa next summer, and Milutinov under contract would be Poeltl insurance. And if they start Poeltl full time, maybe not a bad idea considering Rudy Gay's drop off, then I like the idea of having a legit center behind him to come in and do the dirty work for the bench, hard screens and rebounding. Even with Aldridge on the team, I think he's been played too many minutes in the regular season often as the lone big, and those are hard minutes. Maybe Poeltl won't be the starter, I suppose that Dejounte in the lineup could rebound enough and defend enough to use Bertans as the PF, but we'll see.

Another thing is that the market this summer makes doesn't look like it has much more guys at the Spurs needs and at their price range. Most other teams will have capspace and the ability to outspend the mle for the most useful candidates. And other guys who could have been mle players fell apart like Stanley Johnson and should end up being cheap enough that the full mle is overpay.

Maybe Trevor Ariza is an MLE guy, and that'd be fine, but he's close enough to Washed Up Lake that I wouldn't be super confident in his contributions. I could see him at more than mle though


Spurs should be able to easily retain Poeltl given his RFA status, Milutinov being signed would be LMA insurance if chose to leave SA and head back to Portland.

I think Jakob is better than Milutinov but Milutinov does provide value; he is a good finisher and excellent rebounder, especially offensively. Having him as the 3rd center (behind LMA and Poeltl whom I expect to continue to start together next season)

I think the Spurs will use part of the MLE on bringing Miltinov over, not bringing in a vet like Ariza. The way it stands, the Spurs rotation will already be jam packed; Beli and Walker may be on the outside looking in on the rotation. Maybe they could bring in Stanley Johnson using the remaining portion of the MLE but they may just keep that money available for buyout market next season.

[K...]

Is Donatas Motiejūnas going to be cheaper than milutinov? There's no indication he's coming back but they wouldn't have bright him on unless they had a plan to retain him. Maybe if Rudy goes, then four bigs makes sense, but the montj may be a sign milutinov isn't in their

plans

[Degoat]

Is Donatas Motiejūnas going to be cheaper than milutinov? There's no indication he's coming back but they wouldn't have bright him on unless they had a plan to retain him. Maybe if Rudy goes, then four bigs makes sense, but the montj may be a sign milutinov isn't in their

plans


Pretty sure motiejunas has already signed a deal in China, idk if he can back out of it or not.

[TD 21]

Spurs should be able to easily retain Poeltl given his RFA status, Milutinov being signed would be LMA insurance if chose to leave SA and head back to Portland.

I think Jakob is better than Milutinov but Milutinov does provide value; he is a good finisher and excellent rebounder, especially offensively. Having him as the 3rd center (behind LMA and Poeltl whom I expect to continue to start together next season)

I think the Spurs will use part of the MLE on bringing Miltinov over, not bringing in a vet like Ariza. The way it stands, the Spurs rotation will already be jam backed; Beli and Walker may be on the outside looking in on the rotation. Maybe they could bring in Stanley Johnson using the remaining portion of the MLE but they may just keep that money available for buyout market next season.

It's shocking how many people don't seem to comprehend this. The likes of Ariza, Carroll, etc. aren't signing here to fill the Cunningham role.

The only possible rotation player I could see being traded, is Forbes and even then, it would either be as part of a package for a young veteran (Prince?) or more likely to move up in the draft (Hunter is likely out of reach, but possibly Little, Doumbouya, Clarke, etc), so even if they go that route, they likely either fill the spot in the trade or have whoever that player is compete with Walker for it.

With Johnson, I don't think it'll be so much about the money as it is the opportunity. He'll probably want to do what the likes of Hezonja and Vonleh did this season and go to a team like the Knicks, where he's guaranteed significant minutes. If they end up with Little or Clarke, they probably won't even attempt to sign someone like him anyway.

[Dejounte]

Pretty sure motiejunas has already signed a deal in China, idk if he can back out of it or not.

He is not locked into that deal. He can be part of an NBA team next season.

[cd021]

Millutinov is too expensive for what he's going to provide AFTER getting acclimated to NBA bball

I could see him getting at least half of the MLE ($9 million), on a 3 year deal. That's probably at least $16 million. He would likely play a big role next season but could play a bigger role in year two and three when Aldridge is older and or not on the team.

It's not ideal to pay him that much but he could be a good rotational big.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

How's Milutinov going to help right away? He's a true center who's not better than LaMarcus, and is not better than Poeltl. No need to pay a third string center a big chunk of the MLE. He's off the rookie scale now, and can up his asking price.

If you pick some kid at #29, he can be had for like ~$1M and change.

I think he might be a better player than Poeltl now though. The guy can hit free throws, moves just as well as Poeltl, rebound, and his form on his shot suggests he might be able to hit 15 foot jumpers. Obviously Jacob has played in the NBA so all of what I typed is a guess but the guy for all intents and purposes looks like an asset that can be used on the court or as trade bait.

[kobyz]

No point in bringing over Milutinov while we still have Jacob, they are too similar and no room for two of that kind in the rotation

[Degoat]

Y’all gonna laugh :rollinbut I had a dream the spurs took Tyler Herro 19th and KZ Opala 29th! If that happens I’m opening a psychic business lol

[BackHome]

I would be happy with that draft.

[BackHome]

I would be happy with that draft.

[DPG21920]

It's shocking how many people don't seem to comprehend this. The likes of Ariza, Carroll, etc. aren't signing here to fill the Cunningham role.

The only possible rotation player I could see being traded, is Forbes and even then, it would either be as part of a package for a young veteran (Prince?) or more likely to move up in the draft (Hunter is likely out of reach, but possibly Little, Doumbouya, Clarke, etc), so even if they go that route, they likely either fill the spot in the trade or have whoever that player is compete with Walker for it.

With Johnson, I don't think it'll be so much about the money as it is the opportunity. He'll probably want to do what the likes of Hezonja and Vonleh did this season and go to a team like the Knicks, where he's guaranteed significant minutes. If they end up with Little or Clarke, they probably won't even attempt to sign someone like him anyway.

Not sure about that honestly.

Locks for minutes (and lets assume starting lineup): Murray/White/DeRozan/?/LMA
Locks for minutes (and lets assume bench lineup): Mills/Lonnie, Forbes or Beli/Bertans/Rudy/Jakob

By just cutting Beli out there is definitely room for a SF/PF and someone like Morris/Ariza/Carroll could walk into a starting role. I can see Mills getting minutes reduced by Forbes/Murray. Likewise Beli for Lonnie.

I think Cunningham and Pondexter are gone. It’s possible Rudy is gone, but I think he stays if sa operates over the cap, maybe another one year deal.

But we may see a trade of Beli, Forbes or Mills and even if not, I can see Beli being cut out of the rotation unless Lonnie really doesn't impress in training camp.

[DPG21920]

How concerned are people about Okeke’s injury and age? I really liked his game and I dont know how SA passes on someone like that at 29 unless there is that major of a concern.

[objective]

How concerned are people about Okeke’s injury and age? I really liked his game and I dont know how SA passes on someone like that at 29 unless there is that major of a concern.

Worth a pick to me. A little concerning that he was already wrapping his knees like even before the injury, but it is what it is. I watched Auburn's first 2 tourny games yesterday, and I'm surprised he wasn't rated higher than he usually was amongst draftniks. Turns 21 in August, doesn't bother me with him that much

Plus he can rehab while getting over himself in Austin.

I'd be happy with him in the first. If the Spurs could land 2 of 3 of Clarke, Okeke and Thybulle I'd be pretty happy, but that's just my opinion

[BackHome]

Look at Louis King I think you might him

[Drom John]

The Sports Daily: 2019 NBA Mock Draft 1.0
By: ProCity Hoops Staff | April 22, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs – Grant Williams (Tennessee, F)

An undersized power forward, but not quick enough to guard a small forward, which means he is a perfect fit for Coach Pop and the Spurs. Someone who has a high-IQ, good passing abilty, somewhat versatile, and hard worker, Williams will find a role easily on the roster.


29. San Antonio Spurs – Ty Jerome (Virginia, G)

A smart, shifty, and lights out shooter at the point guard position. Another perfect fir for the Spurs system, Jerome never tries to do too much, and will fit in perfectly with a team that shoots the best percentage from deep in the NBA.

[cd021]

No point in bringing over Milutinov while we still have Jacob, they are too similar and no room for two of that kind in the rotation

Don't get that logic tbh, having two productive youngish bigs is better than one tbh. Milutinov's numbers suggest he is a great finisher and rebounder, especially offensively, and a decent FT shooter to boot.

LMA is a FA after next season and will be 35, Milutinov is about 9 years younger. He may end up being Jakob's backup going forward, after next season depending on what happens with Aldridge.

[Drom John]

Walter Football: 2019 NBA Mock Draft
Written by David Kay - david_kmiecik.
This 2019 NBA Mock Draft was updated: April 15, 2019.


19. San Antonio Spurs: Daniel Gifford, C, Arkansas, 6-11, Soph.
Gafford is a terrific athlete who can make his mark on the defensive end, but is also a capable scorer. The Spurs could use some youth and versatility in their frontcourt, which Gafford should eventually be able to provide.


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto Raptors): Luguentz Dort, SG, Arizona State, 6-4, Fr.
Since I have the Spurs going adding size with their earlier pick, they look to add perimeter depth here. The Canadian has the build of a linebacker and uses his strength and skill to be an effective scorer.


49. San Antonio Spurs: Admiral Schofield, SF, Tennessee, 6-6, Sr.

[Drom John]

Basketball Insiders:
Mock Drafts
NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft – 4/23/19

The annual Portsmouth Invitational is in the books, and the bulk of the early entry candidates have declared for the 2019 NBA Draft. Steve Kyler takes another look at all 60-picks in his latest NBA Mock Draft.
Steve Kyler



19

Rui Hachimura
San Antonio Spurs

GonzagaJunior



29

Goga Bitadze
San Antonio Spurs

Mega BemaxInternational
Age: 19
Height: 6' 11
Position: C
Weight: 250



49

Moses Brown
San Antonio Spurs

UCLA Freshman
Age: 19
Height: 7' 1
Position: C
Weight: 245

[Dejounte]

We do not need another center.

Grant can be a SF. He just needs to work on his speed. Otherwise, all the skills are there.

[duncan2150]

We do not need another center.

Grant can be a SF. He just needs to work on his speed. Otherwise, all the skills are there.

I really think we need another PF or C, all teams are not playing small ball. Gay or Bertans have some difficulties against Denver who plays With Two bigs.

I agree that we don’t need 5-6 bigs like in the past but a minimum of 3-4 guys. I also think we need a good defender, energetic big who can block shots, clean the boards..

imo the needs are a 4-5 and a SF.

For Williams, i like him but teaching speed is very difficult. He will be a small PF in the NBA imo. That’s Not our need.

[exstatic]

I really think we need another PF or C, all teams are not playing small ball. Gay or Bertans have some difficulties against Denver who plays With Two bigs.

I agree that we don’t need 5-6 bigs like in the past but a minimum of 3-4 guys. I also think we need a good defender, energetic big who can block shots, clean the boards..

imo the needs are a 4-5 and a SF.

For Williams, i like him but teaching speed is very difficult. He will be a small PF in the NBA imo. That’s Not our need.

That would be Poeltl.

[duncan2150]

That would be Poeltl.


He is not what i called an energetic big. Off course he can block shots and take rebounds.

But what i think is that we need another big To go alongside poetl and aldridge.

[exstatic]

He is not what i called an energetic big. Off course he can block shots and take rebounds.

But what i think is that we need another big To go alongside poetl and aldridge.

What makes a big "energetic"?

[BackHome]

Man I wish there was some way to move up in the second round draft a couple of long term projects I think would pay off

[cd021]

Basketball Insiders:
Mock Drafts
NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft – 4/23/19

The annual Portsmouth Invitational is in the books, and the bulk of the early entry candidates have declared for the 2019 NBA Draft. Steve Kyler takes another look at all 60-picks in his latest NBA Mock Draft.
Steve Kyler

Rui and Goga is pipe dreamish but that would be a fantastic draft.

[Drom John]

CBS Sports: 2019 NBA Draft Top 100 Big Board: A look at the biggest risers and fallers after the declaration deadline
Who's moving up and down the Top 100 Big Board of NBA Draft prospects

Kyle Boone mugshot
by Kyle Boone Kyle__Boone 4 hrs ago [AKA 23 April 2019]

NOT TEAM DEPENDENT


Key Fallers .... No. 19 Romeo Langford | Indiana | Fr | SG | 6-6 | 215
Previous: No. 17

Langford is the archetypal NBA wing with his 6-6 frame and near-7-foot-wingspan, but beyond the physical profile, he still faces questions about his game. His shooting form -- the rearback fling that flies from above his head -- almost certainly will need to be overhauled. His off-ball game and how he functions as a true wing also shows he lacks the desirable instincts you expect from a blue-chipper like him. He rates out favorably as a pick-and-roll ball handler and as a finisher around the rim, though, and his touch is translatable. Langford just seems to be longer-away-than-expected from being ready to make significant contributions as a scorer in the NBA, and if he does, it might be in a similarly inefficient manner like his lone season at Indiana.


29 Admiral Schofield Tennessee Sr SG 6-6 241


49 Charles Bassey W. Kentucky Fr C 6-11 245

[DPG21920]

I really don’t see Rui Hachimura lasting until 19, but that is me. Besides Okeke who has seemed to fall and likely could be had with 29, I hope Rui is the main guy they get. Even if that means trading up and only coming away with him in the draft.

[exstatic]

Man I wish there was some way to move up in the second round draft a couple of long term projects I think would pay off

How many roster spots do you think we will have open next year?

[cd021]

We do not need another center.

Grant can be a SF. He just needs to work on his speed. Otherwise, all the skills are there.
We currently have 2 and they play together, another center is fine especially if its Goga

[cd021]

Not sure about that honestly.

Locks for minutes (and lets assume starting lineup): Murray/White/DeRozan/?/LMA
Locks for minutes (and lets assume bench lineup): Mills/Lonnie, Forbes or Beli/Bertans/Rudy/Jakob

By just cutting Beli out there is definitely room for a SF/PF and someone like Morris/Ariza/Carroll could walk into a starting role. I can see Mills getting minutes reduced by Forbes/Murray. Likewise Beli for Lonnie.

I think Cunningham and Pondexter are gone. It’s possible Rudy is gone, but I think he stays if sa operates over the cap, maybe another one year deal.

But we may see a trade of Beli, Forbes or Mills and even if not, I can see Beli being cut out of the rotation unless Lonnie really doesn't impress in training camp.

I think the starting lineup will be the same, while swapping out White for Murray.


SL-Murray, Forbes, DDR, LMA, Poeltl
Bench-Mills, White, Bertans, & Gay
3rd String-Belinelli, Walker, 1st rounder, Metu, Milutinov?


That's a pretty tight rotation, Spurs really don't need to add another player into the mix.

[BackHome]

How many roster spots do you think we will have open next year?

second round pick looking at draft an stash

[exstatic]

second round pick looking at draft an stash

Oh, your post made it sound like you wanted another pick. The reality is that both of the picks after #20 will likely be long term projects.

[TD 21]

Not sure about that honestly.

Locks for minutes (and lets assume starting lineup): Murray/White/DeRozan/?/LMA
Locks for minutes (and lets assume bench lineup): Mills/Lonnie, Forbes or Beli/Bertans/Rudy/Jakob

By just cutting Beli out there is definitely room for a SF/PF and someone like Morris/Ariza/Carroll could walk into a starting role. I can see Mills getting minutes reduced by Forbes/Murray. Likewise Beli for Lonnie.

I think Cunningham and Pondexter are gone. It’s possible Rudy is gone, but I think he stays if sa operates over the cap, maybe another one year deal.

But we may see a trade of Beli, Forbes or Mills and even if not, I can see Beli being cut out of the rotation unless Lonnie really doesn't impress in training camp.

Mills is a lock. Belinelli may have to compete with Walker, but he'll have the inside track and I doubt they'd want to further block Walker by signing a veteran to compete with him. Whoever the Cunningham replacement is, will more so be Gay and Bertans insurance and utilized in certain matchups.

No chance the Spurs would sign a Morris and none of him, Ariza or Carroll are passing up the opportunity to either start or be the 6th man on a team like the Rockets, so that they can compete with Belinelli for a rotation spot.

I doubt Belinelli gets pushed out anyway. He made no sense the moment they signed him; it's not like something has changed. Also, they rarely push established rotation players, at least in or still close to their prime, out.

Can't see Gay not being re-signed to a 2 year (maybe partial guarantee on the 3rd) deal. Lose him and they'd only have the MLE with which to replace him. That's not enough to net a worthwhile replacement.

[duncan2150]

What makes a big "energetic"?

Maybe the Word is "athletic " big who can Protect the rim

[kobyz]

Don't get that logic tbh, having two productive youngish bigs is better than one tbh. Milutinov's numbers suggest he is a great finisher and rebounder, especially offensively, and a decent FT shooter to boot.

LMA is a FA after next season and will be 35, Milutinov is about 9 years younger. He may end up being Jakob's backup going forward, after next season depending on what happens with Aldridge.

You don't need a Jacob backup of the same breed in the rotation, that type of player is very limited player and not worth more than 25mpg in any place in today game, signing Milutinov would be fine only for the minimum as injury insurance for Jacob...

[BackHome]

After watching us get our ass kicked by Denver big men I want Nikola to be brought over even more.

[Drom John]

Fansided: Sir Charles in Charge: NBA Mock Draft 3.0: Lakers jump into the top 3; De’Andre Hunter enters top 5
by Michael Saenz 8 hours ago [AKA 24 April 2019]



19
Bol Bol
C Oregon
San Antonio Spurs

The San Antonio Spurs, perhaps somewhat off brand, have been one of the most interesting teams over the last few weeks. But no matter what happens in the remainder of the playoffs, this team will have plenty of questions to answer during the summer. They need a new direction and have to hit a home run in the NBA Draft.
00:06 / 00:15
SKIP AD

At No. 19, that could be hard. However, with the most interesting prospect still on the board, I wouldn’t be all that surprised to see the Spurs take a big swing here. Bol Bol has an extremely high ceiling and is a player unlike we’ve ever seen before. However, his big injury will probably prevent him from being a top 10 or 5 pick.

Nevertheless, Bol has top 10 talent and could potentially be a big steal for any team that takes the ultimate risk on him late in the first round. San Antonio is one of those teams that could take the risk while also not really getting blamed if he turns out to be a complete bust. It’s a healthy risk for the Spurs to take here.



29
Jontay Porter
F Missouri
San Antonio Spurs

Jontay Porter is another interesting prospect that, if healthy, would be selected a whole lot higher than late in the first-round. He’s also mostly known for being Michael Porter Jr’s brother. Unfortunately, he lost his sophomore season at Missouri after tearing his ACL at the beginning of the season.
00:05 / 00:15
SKIP AD

He’s such a Spurs pick here late in the first round where he could take his time to continue to recover from his knee injury and potentially be placed in the best position where he could succeed. Gregg Popovich won’t rush him back, and he would develop him in the Spurs system.

When healthy, Porter averaged 10 points and seven rebounds on 44 percent shooting from the field on 36 percent from 3-point range during his freshman season at Missouri. However, he’s been so out of the limelight that his draft stock will no question suffer. Tell me this isn’t such a Spurs pick, though.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Updated 1st-Round Predictions, Analysis for Top Prospects
Maurice Bobb
April 24, 2019

Draft order is wonky


20. San Antonio Spurs: Grant Williams, PF, Tennesse


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Luguentz Dort, SG, Arizona State

[RC_Drunkford]

R.I.P. to making it past the 1st round if that's our Team next year. Spurs gotta make a move

[kobyz]

Thybulle is boarder line nba player, he's exactly same player as Adam Hanga, so no point in drafting him..

[exstatic]

Maybe the Word is "athletic " big who can Protect the rim

?? Poeltl can do that quite well. Follow the link and see that he allows a VERY low FG%, and defends a decent number of shots at the rim per game, considering his minutes are low.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8bw425/oc_the_nbas_top_rim_protectors_this_season/

[LCM]

Would anyone trade Milutinov to 76ers for their 2 2nd round picks? Boban is a UFA, so Philly could get younger and cheaper big to back up Embiid for multiple years. There are going to be some players who are going to drop into that area, potentially Schofield, Louis King.

Also, would anyone think of drafting Kabenjele from FSU with 29? He's Mutumbo's nephew, led FSU in scoring coming off the bench. 6'10 235. Rim protecter, has some moves on the low block, can shoot the 3, very athletic, needs to learn to not commit stupid fouls. No one has a consensus on where he will go.

[exstatic]

Would anyone trade Milutinov to 76ers for their 2 2nd round picks? Boban is a UFA, so Philly could get younger and cheaper big to back up Embiid for multiple years. There are going to be some players who are going to drop into that area, potentially Schofield, Louis King.

Also, would anyone think of drafting Kabenjele from FSU with 29? He's Mutumbo's nephew, led FSU in scoring coming off the bench. 6'10 235. Rim protecter, has some moves on the low block, can shoot the 3, very athletic, needs to learn to not commit stupid fouls. No one has a consensus on where he will go.

So, you want 5 draft picks?

[LCM]

The Spurs could use their 2nd as a draft and stash, but there are always guys who drop close to the beginning of the second round.

[objective]

Luguentz Dort seems to me to have an unusually large head. Not just cranium like Anderson or White, but his entire head is big, like Thanos sized head

[duncan2150]

?? Poeltl can do that quite well. Follow the link and see that he allows a VERY low FG%, and defends a decent number of shots at the rim per game, considering his minutes are low.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8bw425/oc_the_nbas_top_rim_protectors_this_season/

my opinion was not against poetl, it's just That we need another good big imo nothing more.

[cd021]

You don't need a Jacob backup of the same breed in the rotation, that type of player is very limited player and not worth more than 25mpg in any place in today game, signing Milutinov would be fine only for the minimum as injury insurance for Jacob...

You're saying that he isn't necessary because he can't play more than 25 mpg in the rotation? He is probably as good as a better than most backup centers available at the minimum and he isn't very limited- not sure why you think that.

Nikola will be more expensive than a minimum big (I could see a 3 year, $16 million) but also has a higher upside; he is a productive player in a good basketball league. He is good finisher, excellent rebounder, solid FT shooter and if he's a decent defender then that is a good NBA backup center, maybe even fringe starter.

Just because him and Poeltl have similar games doesn't exclude him from becoming his backup and being a good rotation player, that doesn't really make sense.

He may not play much next season with Aldridge and Jakob but year 2 and year 3 is where he could be valuable; having him locked up if Aldridge leaves or retires, is a positive, especially considering that the Spurs probably drafted him mostly because he was willing to stay oversees for multiple seasons.

[tholdren]

Spurs need another midrange jump shooter who cannot create for others

[ZeusWillJudge]

Spurs need another midrange jump shooter who cannot create for others


LMAO! I was just about to say the same thing. Different words, but the exact same thing. Why draft players that he won't play? We need a clone of Mills and DeRozan, and call it a draft.

[kobyz]

You're saying that he isn't necessary because he can't play more than 25 mpg in the rotation? He is probably as good as a better than most backup centers available at the minimum and he isn't very limited- not sure why you think that.

Nikola will be more expensive than a minimum big (I could see a 3 year, $16 million) but also has a higher upside; he is a productive player in a good basketball league. He is good finisher, excellent rebounder, solid FT shooter and if he's a decent defender then that is a good NBA backup center, maybe even fringe starter.

Just because him and Poeltl have similar games doesn't exclude him from becoming his backup and being a good rotation player, that doesn't really make sense.

He may not play much next season with Aldridge and Jakob but year 2 and year 3 is where he could be valuable; having him locked up if Aldridge leaves or retires, is a positive, especially considering that the Spurs probably drafted him mostly because he was willing to stay oversees for multiple seasons.

Jacob and Milutinov are dirty work bigs without any advance skill that very exposed in today game and it's almost like playing with 4 players on offense, type of player that not worth together more than 25mpg in today game, so there is no need to spend too much money on Milutinov if you have Jacob...

[FlAVaK]

Luguentz Dort seems to me to have an unusually large head. Not just cranium like Anderson or White, but his entire head is big, like Thanos sized head

:wakeup

http://atbnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/IMG_2127.jpg

[Drom John]

Fanisided: Daily Knicks: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Full first round as lottery nears
by Rob Wolkenbrod 3 hours ago [AKA 25 April 2019]



19
PJ Washington
F, Kentucky
Kentucky

Age: 20
Height, Weight: 6-foot-8, 228 pounds
Slash Line: .522/.423/.663
Season Averages: 15.2 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 1.8 APG, 0.9 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 0.9 3PM
00:03 / 00:15
SKIP AD

The San Antonio Spurs rarely own multiple first-round picks in a draft, as they usually do not send out players for picks. The 2011 draft-day deal for Kawhi Leonard was the last time that happened, before the 2018 deal, also featuring Leonard, that netted a protected first-round pick from the Toronto Raptors.

But, it starts with their own pick at 19th. They can add another young piece to the DeMar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge-led core, and with Derrick White, Dejounte Murray, Lonnie Walker and Bryn Forbes as intriguing backcourt pieces, this pick goes towards the frontcourt.

PJ Washington was Kentucky’s standout player as a sophomore. His length and NBA body worked the post in school, resulting in 15.2 points and 7.6 rebounds. 1.2 blocks per game showed some ability to contest shots, as well, and he will likely play off as a power forward.

Athleticism is a potential drawback for Washington in school. Unless he does not improve shooting the basketball, it might keep him as a backup forward down the road. The Spurs usually find ways to highlight a player’s strengths, so if he becomes a capable defender and someone to stretch the floor, it can work in this organization’s favor.



29
Fletcher Magee
SG, Wofford
Wofford

Age: 22
Height, Weight: 6-foot-4, 200 pounds
Slash Line: .439/.419/.910
Season Averages: 20.3 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 1.6 APG, 0.7 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 4.5 3PM
00:11 / 00:30
SKIP AD

The San Antonio Spurs already have PJ Washington on the board, but they will just about closer the first round with another draft pick. They can be creative here and look for a player to bolster an area of luxury.

Three-point shooting was a plus in 2018-19, despite averaging the fewest attempts in the NBA. They had the highest percentage of all 30 teams, finding quality shots instead of quantity like the Houston Rockets.

Adding to this to make San Antonio more dynamic from deep, Wofford’s Fletcher Magee makes sense as a reserve shooter to stretch the floor.

Magee had a terrific senior season. While not at the 48.4 percent clip of his junior campaign, he still hit 4.5 three-pointers per game and nearly 50 percent of two-point shots, which just under four per contested was attempted.

[Drom John]

Fansdided: Fandom 250: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Learning from the playoffs
by Brendon Kleen 4 hours ago [AKA 25 April 2019]



29
Dylan Windler
F, Belmont
Belmont

This one comes via Toronto, who’s more than happy to give up its first-round pick as Kawhi Leonard tears apart the first round of the NBA playoffs. Windler is the guy I’m sticking with in San Antonio until we hear differently.



19
Goga Bitadze
C, Mega Bemax
Mega Bemax

Jakob Poeltl’s defensive versatility has been a standout part of the Spurs’ success against Denver in the first round. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t add Bitadze, a unicorn big man who brings the international suave San Antonio prizes.

[BackHome]

My second mock picks are:

1. Rui Hachimura 6’8 PF
2. Louis King 6’7 SF
3. Aric Holman 6’10 PF/C

[Drom John]

My picks:
19 Bol Bol
29 Dedric Lawson
49 Shamorie Ponds
undrafted John Konchar

[cd021]

It's shocking how many people don't seem to comprehend this. The likes of Ariza, Carroll, etc. aren't signing here to fill the Cunningham role.

The only possible rotation player I could see being traded, is Forbes and even then, it would either be as part of a package for a young veteran (Prince?) or more likely to move up in the draft (Hunter is likely out of reach, but possibly Little, Doumbouya, Clarke, etc), so even if they go that route, they likely either fill the spot in the trade or have whoever that player is compete with Walker for it.

With Johnson, I don't think it'll be so much about the money as it is the opportunity. He'll probably want to do what the likes of Hezonja and Vonleh did this season and go to a team like the Knicks, where he's guaranteed significant minutes. If they end up with Little or Clarke, they probably won't even attempt to sign someone like him anyway.

Agreed, tbh.

The positive of having a jam packed rotation is that the bottom of the roster will be markedly better than this season, though it means Walker will struggle to find minutes.

I do think Forbes has continued to increase his trade value, making R.C. more likely to kick the tires if there is a prospect that may be above their pick. I wonder if Detroit at 15 may be an option in a package including the 19th pick.

They are likely to keep Forbes; however, and probably one of Doumboya, Rui, Bitidze or Bol falls to them and they good value with that pick.

[BackHome]

Please not Bol Bol can you imagine him guarding Nurik he would have his chest caved in

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: 1st-Round Picks for Every Team and Players to Watch
Joe Tansey
April 26, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs: Jaxson Hayes, C, Texas


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Grant Williams, PF, Tennessee

[Drom John]

NBC Sports Boston: A. Sherrod Blakely's NBA Mock Draft 2.0
2 hours ago [AKA 26 April 2019]


19. San Antonio Spurs

Brandon Clarke, PF/C, Gonzaga

Tough, gritty, high character type player who, while often overlooked by fellow first-round pick Rui Hachimura, is a talented player in his own right.


29. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors)

Cameron Johnson, SF, UNC

With no assurances that free agent-to-be Rudy Gay will be back, the Spurs add an exceptional shooter who is one of the older (he’s 23 years old) draft picks likely taken in the first round.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

NBC Sports Boston: A. Sherrod Blakely's NBA Mock Draft 2.0
2 hours ago [AKA 26 April 2019]

I wouldn't be opposed to those two picks. Clarke can jump out of the gym. He needs to develop a shot, but he's got that athleticism the Spurs lack.

And if Cameron Johnson fell to 29 I think he'd be a no-brainer. Kid can shoot.

[BatManu20]

I wouldn't be opposed to those two picks. Clarke can jump out of the gym. He needs to develop a shot, but he's got that athleticism the Spurs lack.

And if Cameron Johnson fell to 29 I think he'd be a no-brainer. Kid can shoot.

He can shoot, but he’s a putrid defender and is already 23. Seems repetitive with Bertans on the roster tbh.

[cd021]

He can shoot, but he’s a putrid defender and is already 23. Seems repetitive with Bertans on the roster tbh.

Doesn't he also have a bad hip too?

[objective]

He can shoot, but he’s a putrid defender and is already 23. Seems repetitive with Bertans on the roster tbh.

I've barely watched him, but I got Wesley Johnson vibes off him

[EricB]

Take Thybulle out of any guess or wish list. Ain’t happening.

[kobyz]

Take Thybulle out of any guess or wish list. Ain’t happening.
Why? Thybulle is Adam Hanga clone, so we could have that type of player by now if we wanted...

[tim_duncan_fan]

We need a young big with potential to go along with our young point guards with potential and young 2-guard with potential.

And for the second pick, a lights-out 3-point shooter or one who will just make them when they count.

Edit: I want to see more draft discussion and future-talk on the first page now.

Last night is done and over.

[ceperez]

Any sleeper Europeans in this year's draft?

[sasaint]

He can shoot, but he’s a putrid defender and is already 23. Seems repetitive with Bertans on the roster tbh.

On the one hand, Bertans will likely be gone. On the other hand, there's no need to replace him.

[objective]

Any sleeper Europeans in this year's draft?

Deivydas Sirvydas is like a 6-8 Davis Bertans. Negative wingspan, weak, good shooter

[ceperez]

Deivydas Sirvydas is like a 6-8 Davis Bertans. Negative wingspan, weak, good shooter

;-) . I suspect Spurs pick him up on the 29th pick.

[EricB]

Why? Thybulle is Adam Hanga clone, so we could have that type of player by now if we wanted...

the scouts and front office don’t like him. Don’t know how else I can spell it.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Louis King from Oregon looks like he could be a solid 3&D player in the NBA at the least. I think if a lot of the guys who have declared so far stay in the draft, we will have a good shot grabbing a solid 3&D player who can guard the 2&3

I can't wait for the draft lottery and combine. Especially the combine because that is going to really help separate the prospects more clearly.

May 14th is the lottery and May 15-17 is the combine

[exstatic]

the scouts and front office don’t like him. Don’t know how else I can spell it.

Did y’all have good coffee at your last roundtable? The spurs are not only not in the habit of sharing their likes and dislikes, player wise, they’ve been known to use disinformation during the draft process.

[exstatic]

Louis King from Oregon looks like he could be a solid 3&D player in the NBA at the least. I think if a lot of the guys who have declared so far stay in the draft, we will have a good shot grabbing a solid 3&D player who can guard the 2&3

I can't wait for the draft lottery and combine. Especially the combine because that is going to really help separate the prospects more clearly.

May 14th is the lottery and May 15-17 is the combine
The combine is really only useful for players projected outside of the lottery. Everyone else just shows up to be interviewed and measured.

[Drom John]

Bleacher Report: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Updated Predictions for 1st-Round Prospects
Joe Tansey
April 28, 2019


19. San Antonio Spurs: Jaxson Hayes, C, Texas


29. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto): Grant Williams, PF, Tennessee

[8FOR!3]

Most mocks have us taking centers (or PFs in that mold) and I don’t really get it. Wing is the biggest need. But I don’t really care what we do I trust that the front office will pick the right guy, they usually do

[exstatic]

Most mocks have us taking centers (or PFs in that mold) and I don’t really get it. Wing is the biggest need. But I don’t really care what we do I trust that the front office will pick the right guy, they usually do

A true, post playing center is the last thing we need, having two on the roster. Those two can rarely play a lot of minutes together, so I don't see the utility of adding yet another. It's not like our cadre of young guards, where there are 96 minutes to parcel out, more if you run some 3 guard sets.

Any bigs they draft, whether Cs or PFs, should be of the stretch variety, able to shoot.

[duncan2150]

I agree that having a true center is not a need With Jakob and aldridge but having a true Pf/C back Up is a need. So we have the draft or free agency To get one.

[EricB]

Did y’all have good coffee at your last roundtable? The spurs are not only not in the habit of sharing their likes and dislikes, player wise, they’ve been known to use disinformation during the draft process.


My guy says they don’t think his talents translate to the nba, ����*♂️

[pad300]

Most mocks have us taking centers (or PFs in that mold) and I don’t really get it. Wing is the biggest need. But I don’t really care what we do I trust that the front office will pick the right guy, they usually do

SAS has a strong tradition of drafting who they think is BPA, rather than for need. A lot of teams are undervalueing traditional big men (IMO, of course), so they are dropping lower than they should...

[BackHome]

Yeah when we draft we can grab a top 5 rated Center or PF but not a SG or SF

[BatManu20]

The more tape I watch on this guy, the more I want him. He’s an Al Horford clone (poor man’s version). Same size, same kind of game. Stretch-5 Defensive stalwart who can knock down long jumpers. Shot 37% from 3 this season. Plays with a lot of passion and fire. I think he’s going to improve his stock at the combine though and eventually be a top-17 pick. 21 years old. He’s also Dikembe Mutombo’s nephew.



https://youtu.be/NISyfm_srhk


https://youtu.be/3GfmVdOdOZM

[duncan2150]

The more tape I watch on this guy, the more I want him. He’s an Al Horford clone (poor man’s version). Same size, same kind of game. Stretch-5 Defensive stalwart who can knock down long jumpers. Shot 37% from 3 this season. Plays with a lot of passion and fire. I think he’s going to improve his stock at the combine though and eventually be a top-17 pick. 21 years old. He’s also Dikembe Mutombo’s nephew.



https://youtu.be/NISyfm_srhk


https://youtu.be/3GfmVdOdOZM

he is ( with others prospects) what i talk about since weeks. A true inside Guy who Can provide shotblocking, athletism to the team and play Bhind aldridge and poetl.
The plus for kabengele is That he is a capable 3 point shooter.

[R. DeMurre]

My guy says they don’t think his talents translate to the nba, ����*♂️

You know someone who works as a scout for the Spurs?

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

The more tape I watch on this guy, the more I want him. He’s an Al Horford clone (poor man’s version). Same size, same kind of game. Stretch-5 Defensive stalwart who can knock down long jumpers. Shot 37% from 3 this season. Plays with a lot of passion and fire. I think he’s going to improve his stock at the combine though and eventually be a top-17 pick. 21 years old. He’s also Dikembe Mutombo’s nephew.



https://youtu.be/NISyfm_srhk


https://youtu.be/3GfmVdOdOZM

I brought him up earlier in the thread and like his game also. I'm an ACC fan living in ACC country and got to see him play a few times this season and he is a solid player. I wonder what his measurements will be at the combine though. If he has as good a wing span as thought and shows he is quick on his feet he might rise up the draft boards.


A guy I think we should try and poach via free agency is Bruno Caboclo. Toronto drafted him a few years back and Fran Fraschilla famously said he is 2 years away from being 2 years away. Well he got picked up from the G-league by Memphis late in the season and he played well. Dude is tall enough to play small ball 4 and can play the 3 at 6"9'

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

The combine is really only useful for players projected outside of the lottery. Everyone else just shows up to be interviewed and measured.

We are outside of the lottery so its important for prospects we will be trying to draft. Lol

I'm excited about the draft lottery because I want to know who drafts where in the lottery. I think whoever gets the #1 pick has a chance to help change the future standings in the league. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the Knicks if they got the 1st pick would try and trade it and some players for Anthony Davis which could maybe entice Durant or Kyrie Irving to go play there

[exstatic]

We are outside of the lottery so its important for prospects we will be trying to draft. Lol

I'm excited about the draft lottery because I want to know who drafts where in the lottery. I think whoever gets the #1 pick has a chance to help change the future standings in the league. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the Knicks if they got the 1st pick would try and trade it and some players for Anthony Davis which could maybe entice Durant or Kyrie Irving to go play there

According to off the record talk by KD's teammates, he's going to NY, regardless.

[objective]

I brought him up earlier in the thread and like his game also. I'm an ACC fan living in ACC country and got to see him play a few times this season and he is a solid player. I wonder what his measurements will be at the combine though. If he has as good a wing span as thought and shows he is quick on his feet he might rise up the draft boards.


A guy I think we should try and poach via free agency is Bruno Caboclo. Toronto drafted him a few years back and Fran Fraschilla famously said he is 2 years away from being 2 years away. Well he got picked up from the G-league by Memphis late in the season and he played well. Dude is tall enough to play small ball 4 and can play the 3 at 6"9'

Pretty sure Caboclo got extended through next year when he signed a full deal with Memphis

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Pretty sure Caboclo got extended through next year when he signed a full deal with Memphis

Damn! I didn't look at his deal i just remembered they grabbed him and he played well along with Jonas.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

According to off the record talk by KD's teammates, he's going to NY, regardless.

I'm surprised he would think to go to New York because the media is going to eat him alive there and he has issues in the bay area now while things are going well. I'm also kinda surprised he would leave Golden State with how dominant they have been. I mean he wanted the easier route to winning and got what he wanted, so why leave? I guess he is tired of being looked at as lame?

[exstatic]

I'm surprised he would think to go to New York because the media is going to eat him alive there and he has issues in the bay area now while things are going well. I'm also kinda surprised he would leave Golden State with how dominant they have been. I mean he wanted the easier route to winning and got what he wanted, so why leave? I guess he is tired of being looked at as lame?

He's leaving because he's done what he came to do: win rings. I also think he's done with Raymond and his bullshit.

Honestly, they're like the Beatles: supremely talented, but egos just really got in the way. I mean the Beatles had stopped touring in like 1966. All they had to do was go into the studio every 15-18 months, and cut an album, and it would be like printing money. It would have lasted decades, but they just couldn't keep going. They stopped being friends or even getting along. GS is the same. Winning just isn't enough when you're spoiled with it.

[smaka]

Just some interesting FYI guys.

I'm at the Slovenian league game right now, and RC Buford is sitting like two rows in front of me. He must've come to watch Luka Samanic, since there are no other NBA level talents in this game. It's the second time I've seen him at the game this year. Maybe the Spurs are onto something here...

[duncan2150]

Just some interesting FYI guys.

I'm at the Slovenian league game right now, and RC Buford is sitting like two rows in front of me. He must've come to watch Luka Samanic, since there are no other NBA level talents in this game. It's the second time I've seen him at the game this year. Maybe the Spurs are onto something here...

If the spurs draft and stash a guy It will probably be him.

[smaka]

If the spurs draft and stash a guy It will probably be him.

I don't think he and his agent want stashing. As I heard and read from some of the local "insiders", there is only one plan for Samanic next season - and it's the NBA. Whether he is ready for it... Well, that's another question.

[RC_Drunkford]

projected 2nd round pick, only 19 years old with a lot of upside. Would love for the Spurs to pick him up with a 2nd rounder and stash him. Seems like the best move to turn a 2nd rounder into a long term piece that can play in the NBA

[Dex]

I know this has probably already been discussed but I'm too lazy to go through the 50 pages...what does our cap situation look like?

Basically just the MLE available? Would that need to go to Gay to re-sign him?

[Ocotillo]

Just some interesting FYI guys.

I'm at the Slovenian league game right now, and RC Buford is sitting like two rows in front of me. He must've come to watch Luka Samanic, since there are no other NBA level talents in this game. It's the second time I've seen him at the game this year. Maybe the Spurs are onto something here...

Way to go RC...... Wrong Luka, wrong year. ;)

[RC_Drunkford]

I know this has probably already been discussed but I'm too lazy to go through the 50 pages...what does our cap situation look like?

Basically just the MLE available? Would that need to go to Gay to re-sign him?

no we can use bird rights on Gay and then still have the MLE since we're over the cap anyway. Should sign a 3-and-D SF and that's it

[Dex]

no we can use bird rights on Gay and then still have the MLE since we're over the cap anyway. Should sign a 3-and-D SF and that's it

:tu Thanks.

[smaka]

projected 2nd round pick, only 19 years old with a lot of upside. Would love for the Spurs to pick him up with a 2nd rounder and stash him. Seems like the best move to turn a 2nd rounder into a long term piece that can play in the NBA

I could see the Spurs using Raptors pick on him..

[RC_Drunkford]

I could see the Spurs using Raptors pick on him..

thought so too. I'd like that pick up, he has huge upside and is suited for the modern NBA. But nowhere near ready, would definitely have to stash him or send him to the G-League

[exstatic]

thought so too. I'd like that pick up, he has huge upside and is suited for the modern NBA. But nowhere near ready, would definitely have to stash him or send him to the G-League

You can't stash him unless he's willing, even as a second rounder. If you draft a player, you are obligated to offer him whatever first round contract he's entitled to, or an NBA minimum deal to a second rounder, unless you reach a mutual agreement that he's a stash. A second round contract can be unguaranteed, but he either makes the roster, or you cut him and he's a FA. Jack McClinton forced the issue when we drafted him in the 2nd, years ago. He was a camp casualty, and never played in the NBA. The exception would be if the player was already under contract for next year overseas. Sounds like that isn't the case with Samancic, since the plan seems to be NBA or bust.

[Drom John]

CBS Sports: NCAA BB: 2019 NBA Mock Draft: Knicks get Zion Williamson, but Cavs pass on Ja Morant for RJ Barrett
The stars are aligned for Duke players to go in the top two slots in Kyle Boone's latest NBA Mock Draft
by Kyle Boone Kyle__Boone Apr 29, 2019 at 11:59 am ET


19
team logo
Spurs

Bol Bol | Oregon | Fr | C | 7-2

Bol's talent level and skill could land him inside the top-10 of this draft. His recent injury history and size, however, could see him drop outside the lottery. He played only nine games at Oregon before sustaining a season-ending foot injury, but when he was healthy, he averaged 21 points, 9.6 rebounds, 2.7 blocks while shooting 52.0 percent from 3-point range. The Spurs could use Bol's versatility at the center position alongside a more traditional big man like Jakob Poeltl.


29
team logo
Spurs

Pick acquired via trade with Toronto

Cameron Johnson | North Carolina | Sr | SF | 6-8

Johnson isn't going to wow with athleticism or flash or dunks, but he is a solid scorer with a perfect frame custom-fit for the modern NBA. And as a four-year player in college, he could be ready to contribute right away. For a Spurs franchise that might be looking to replace the production of Rudy Gay, this could be a perfect fit.

[Drom John]

Sporting News: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Zion Williamson is no-brainer for Knicks; RJ Barrett over Ja Morant at No. 2?
Written By Sean Deveney
8H AGO [AKA 30 April 2019]


19. Spurs - Sekou Doumbouya, SF, France

Doumbouya is just 18 and will need plenty of grooming before he can be an impact player. He needs to hone his shot and build up some basketball IQut his combination of do-it-all athleticism and length makes him a worthwhile risk.


29. Spurs (via Raptors) - KZ Okpala, SG, Stanford

Okpala is a slashing, creative scorer who averaged 16.9 points for the Cardinal this season. If he can show a bit more playmaking sense in workouts, he should lock up a first-round spot.

[Drom John]

Basketball Insiders:
Mock Drafts
NBA Daily: 60-Pick NBA Mock Draft – 4/30/19

The 2019 NBA Draft is less than 51 days away, and things around the NBA are starting to heat up as teams begin working out players. Steve Kyler offers up his latest 60-Pick Mock draft.
Steve Kyler

Published 5 hours ago

on April 30, 2019

By Steve Kyler




19

Keldon Johnson
San Antonio Spurs

KentuckyFreshman
Age: 19
Height: 6' 6
Position: SG/SF
Weight: 215




29

Goga Bitadze
San Antonio Spurs

Mega BemaxInternational
Age: 19
Height: 6' 11
Position: C
Weight: 250




49

Austin Wiley
San Antonio Spurs

Auburn Junior
Age: 20
Height: 6' 10
Position: C
Weight: 260

[Drom John]

[The Athletic] Veccine: 2019 NBA Mock Draft 3.0 - Post-early entry deadline edition

Behind pay-wall, stolen from Reddit:


19. San Antonio Spurs — Nickeil Alexander-Walker


29. San Antonio Spurs (from TOR) — Bruno Fernando

[r0drig0lac]

Sporting News: NBA Mock Draft 2019: Zion Williamson is no-brainer for Knicks; RJ Barrett over Ja Morant at No. 2?
Written By Sean Deveney
8H AGO [AKA 30 April 2019]

Doumbouya and KZ? do it Mitch

[Degoat]

Doing his due diligence I’m sure, but I saw that RC was at Luka samanic last game

[BackHome]

projected 2nd round pick, only 19 years old with a lot of upside. Would love for the Spurs to pick him up with a 2nd rounder and stash him. Seems like the best move to turn a 2nd rounder into a long term piece that can play in the NBA

He is in my top 4 of picks would love to move up in second round to pick him up or Okeke

[smaka]

He is in my top 4 of picks would love to move up in second round to pick him up or Okeke
May I ask what makes him one of your top picks? I've watched him play live all season and I'm not *that* impressed by him.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Just some interesting FYI guys.

I'm at the Slovenian league game right now, and RC Buford is sitting like two rows in front of me. He must've come to watch Luka Samanic, since there are no other NBA level talents in this game. It's the second time I've seen him at the game this year. Maybe the Spurs are onto something here...


If the spurs draft and stash a guy It will probably be him.

Particularly if it is another big, slow, clumsy white Euro goon.

[exstatic]

Nick Claxton and Charles Matthews would be guys to look at with the second rounder.

[pad300]

Nick Claxton and Charles Matthews would be guys to look at with the second rounder.

I really doubt Claxton would be there. You want him, start thinking about using 29. He might well be a good pick there, some really nice skills for his age & size.

[exstatic]

I really doubt Claxton would be there. You want him, start thinking about using 29. He might well be a good pick there, some really nice skills for his age & size.

He doesn't grade out well, using traditional C metrics. He was asked to do things that were not in his strength area, like initiate offense, which dinged his shooting %s. A LOT of his baskets and attempts were un-assisted.

HUGE upside, though. He could be a + on both sides of the ball. He could also stiff, and most teams are afraid to do that with a first rounder.

[Russ]

It would be nice if Keldon Johnson (Kentucky) fell to 19 as Steve Kyler's mock suggests.

He's an athletic wingman who plays defense hard and has a good bit of offensive potential -- just the kind of player the Spurs can develop.

[look_at_g_shred]

When is the combine?

[exstatic]

It would be nice if Keldon Johnson (Kentucky) fell to 19 as Steve Kyler's mock suggests.

He's an athletic wingman who plays defense hard and has a good bit of offensive potential -- just the kind of player the Spurs can develop.

Don't fall in love with athleticism, in a vacuum. If they can't play fundamental basketball, and a lot of these kids really can't, you can't teach them in a time frame where it pays off for your team (Tobias Harris). If they can, they'll be out of our reach.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Just some interesting FYI guys.

I'm at the Slovenian league game right now, and RC Buford is sitting like two rows in front of me. He must've come to watch Luka Samanic, since there are no other NBA level talents in this game. It's the second time I've seen him at the game this year. Maybe the Spurs are onto something here...


Oh for fucks sake. Thanks very much for posting, Smaka - it's good to get a little info about who the team is considering. But I really, really hope they aren't considering using one of this year's picks on Samanic.

After I read this, I went and dug up an article on him in case some others here are interested. Pay close attention to the first paragraph. The consensus top international prospect in this draft is probably Doumbouya, and I'm really negative on him being able to contribute much in his first year in the NBA - maybe his first two years. Samanic is seen as being way behind Doumbouya, and his big problem all along has been inconsistency. Inconsistency at that level, which means that he's got no real chance at surviving in the NBA as he currently is.

The other thing to remember is that Doncic was seen as the best international last year - but he went with the 3 Pick, so it was no secret how good he was. The year before that, the guy viewed as the best international prospect was Frank Ntilikina - and he is seriously one of the worst players in the league to be getting any meaningful minutes. That "Best International Prospect" designation doesn't mean shit. If the guy is really good, everyone knows it. If he's iffy, there's a reason for it. Samanic is beyond iffy. This article is pretty good about explaining why.

https://www.thestepien.com/2018/11/16/ever-volatile-draft-stock-luka-samanic/