NBA Trade Deadline 2019

[exstatic]

nah rich paul thought of this ahead of time...

https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1089911981287575553

Here's the deal: if you're KCP or Rondo, and living large in LA, are you really going to accept a trade to N.O.? Each and every one of those one year contract players has ABSOLUTE veto power over any trade by virtue of their one year contracts. Davis won't be a Laker at the deadline.

[KDKSpurs24]

I like Davis but I can't ignore the lack of success this guy has had as a #1. He's had some ok talent on those rosters so if he was a true generational talent how has this guy managed to only win 1 playoff series in like 7 or 8 years. Plus he's always injured and leads the league at in game trips to the locker room :lol

In reality he is a beta and just the kind of player lebron needs. His health is a big concern though
Unfair. First of all he’s played in 75 games each for the last two seasons. Second. It is undeniable that the Pelicans have been THE most injured team in the entire league since Davis has been there. They’re never healthy. Eric Gordon was hurt A LOT, Jrue Holiday missed a lot of games and other key role players. There’s no doubt in my mind that he would have led a more consistently healthy team to some playoff series wins.
Also, he was swept by that GS team the first year he went to the playoffs but he almost single handedly pretty much made all 4 of those games competitive.

[GusT15]

I still don't see why the media is putting the Lakers as frontrunners if a trade goes down. They're players are overrated garbage, they're shit without Lebron. Why would NO trade for a bunch of overrated scrubs? It's ridiculous.

What? What do you mean why the media is putting the Lakers as frontrunners? Cause Rich Paul obviously told ESPN to put Lakers as frontrunners,then EPSN did it gladly with an evil grin on it's face then the rest of the media followed suit.

You've never seen it before? How about when ESPN made an entire summer league in Vegas all about how Gonzo Ball is the second coming of Jesus and Aids combined? How about when they were adamant that the Spurs had to trade #2 for Ingram and Luol Deng? How about when they told Indiana to trade PG to the Lakers,cause you ain't getting shit from anyone else? You need more examples?

[Chinook]

Here's the deal: if you're KCP or Rondo, and living large in LA, are you really going to accept a trade to N.O.? Each and every one of those one year contract players has ABSOLUTE veto power over any trade by virtue of their one year contracts. Davis won't be a Laker at the deadline.

KCP does. As far as I know, no one else does. It's not enough to be on a one-year deal. You have to have re-signed to that deal with the club you finished the season on previously. Because most of those guys came from other teams, they don't have veto power, and even in KCP's case, I think he'll do whatever helps him get the most money next season.

[RD2191]

What? What do you mean why the media is putting the Lakers as frontrunners? Cause Rich Paul obviously told ESPN to put Lakers as frontrunners,then EPSN did it gladly with an evil grin on it's face then the rest of the media followed suit.

You've never seen it before? How about when ESPN made an entire summer league in Vegas all about how Gonzo Ball is the second coming of Jesus and Aids combined? How about when they were adamant that the Spurs had to trade #2 for Ingram and Luol Deng? How about when they told Indiana to trade PG to the Lakers,cause you ain't getting shit from anyone else? You need more examples?

Stop! Stop! I get it! :cry :cry :lol

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I'd ship his butt out to like Milwaukee or somewhere east. NY too since their desperate. But if I'm Dallas then I'm trying really hard to get AD. Him and Luka would be a great fit.

[SpurPadre]

In a perfect world, they'd take Gasol, Mills and BOTH our 1st picks for AD.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If I'm the Knicks I offer Porzingis, the 1st round pick unprotected and Tim Hardaway, probably even a future first but protected. This way they get a star and enough cap space to go after Kyrie or Durant. Pelicans get a chance at Zion + Porzingis's bird rights and they don't care about cap space so taking on Hardaway's albatross would be OK. He'd even fill a need actually.

[loveforthegame]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1089931201937313792

[cd98]

maybe he is like Durant, Kawhi, Lebron, Curry or any superstar in the league, unable to win without another star on his team, Durant did not win anything on his own even having a top 3 roster in every season after the Westbrok draft, change the situations of Davis (pelicans) and Durant (Warriors) and today Davis would have two rings and Durant 0

Eh, he's only made the playoffs twice I believe in his career. All those other guys have much better track records.

[DAF86]

Here's the deal: if you're KCP or Rondo, and living large in LA, are you really going to accept a trade to N.O.? Each and every one of those one year contract players has ABSOLUTE veto power over any trade by virtue of their one year contracts. Davis won't be a Laker at the deadline.

If the Pels are going rebuilding mode, they won't care trading for players that are going to leave after the season. The more cap room the better. In fact, if the Pels get any veteran on that trade (Rondo, Lance, Tyson), that veteran is probably being bought out right after.

[GusT15]

I'd ship his butt out to like Milwaukee or somewhere east. NY too since their desperate. But if I'm Dallas then I'm trying really hard to get AD. Him and Luka would be a great fit.

Ehm,you just said ship his ass to Milwaukee like that's a punishment,equal to the Knicks.I mean if you ship him to the Bucks you're basically giving him a free ticket to this years NBA Finals and a chance to take down Golden State (not that anyone can take down Golden State but still..) Just saying...

[vy65]

new orleans had AD under contract for 7 years they had their chance. why should he be forced to toil? it's not like the white billionaires wont trade their asses in a second if the right deal comes up...

t:lolil

[MoSpur02]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1089931201937313792



:lmao:lmao

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Ehm,you just said ship his ass to Milwaukee like that's a punishment,equal to the Knicks.I mean if you ship him to the Bucks you're basically giving him a free ticket to this years NBA Finals and a chance to take down Golden State (not that anyone can take down Golden State but still..) Just saying...

I said the Bucks bc they have actual players that I want in Middleton and Brogdon. It wasn't meant as a punishment. I'm just saying there's much better offers out there than the crappy Lakers.

[MoSpur02]

All this is orchestrated. They (Lakers, LeBron, Magic, Paul) want New Orleans to panic. They believe they're only true competition in landing Davis is Boston so they gave themselves a headstart by announcing before the trade deadline because Boston can't trade Kyrie.

[NASpurs]

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[GusT15]

I said the Bucks bc they have actual players that I want in Middleton and Brogdon. It wasn't meant as a punishment. I'm just saying there's much better offers out there than the crappy Lakers.

No,i get it,but Middleton is UFA and Brogdon is RFA so little trade value there.

There are indd tons of better offers than the trash the Lakers are offering though but for the NOLA front office to access those offers they will be required to have the mental fortitude to let the trade deadline come and go,stand pat and see what they can get in the offseason.. Will they do it? Can they do it?

I'll tell you this much though,if they will do it and wait till the summer it will be a huge middle finger to AD,to Rich Paul,to the Lakers and i will enjoy every minute of it..

[szkorhetz]

AD for Siakam, OG, Jonas.

Who says no?

[BillMc]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1089931201937313792

Hilarious.

There's probably nobody on the Lakers except LeBron who is entirely happy about this.

[Dverde]

AD for Siakam, OG, Jonas.

Who says no?

It would establish a precedent to players who demand a trade...Nando, Nephew, Anthony Davis

[Degoat]

It won’t happen because teams are afraid of losing a player like AD for nothing, but what would be kinda interesting is if the pelicans would tell AD to damn bad, Make him play or sit the bench lol. Seriously like if he wants to go to the lakers make them wait until AD is a free agent in a year and a half when lebron will be turning 36.

[Chinook]

A team would get Davis for two playoff runs. That's worth a butt-ton.

[GusT15]

A team would get Davis for two playoff runs. That's worth a butt-ton.

A team would get him for two playoff runs unless that team is the Celtics who would have to trade Kyrie out to get him for two playoff runs cause of the Rose rule.

So Rich Paul blatantly extorts the Pelicans to trade him till the trade deadline to keep the two playoff runs thing alive but that means no Celtics joining the bidding war,just so they can lower what teams offer to the Pels and they trade him to LA.

Tell him to sit till the off season and trade him for one playoff run with Celtics among the trade destination.That's the right play for NOLA.

[Chinook]

A team would get him for two playoff runs unless that team is the Celtics who would have to trade Kyrie out to get him for two playoff runs cause of the Rose rule.

So Rich Paul blatantly extorts the Pelicans to trade him till the trade deadline to keep the two playoff runs thing alive but that means no Celtics joining the bidding war,just so they can lower what teams offer to the Pels and they trade him to LA.

Tell him to sit till the off season and trade him for one playoff run with Celtics among the trade destination.That's the right play for NOLA.

LAL has made the mistake of overrating their assets twice now. Two playoff runs is enough to get A-offers from the other teams. I don't buy that Boston is the only team that could beat LA, especially since I've been hearing that the Lakers are again trying to hold pieces back. You don't have to be an elite team to put yourself out there. A team like the Knicks or Nets have nothing to lose and pieces that can get it done.

[John B]

No sweat we got the other Davis

[ceperez]

It would establish a precedent to players who demand a trade...Nando, Nephew, Anthony Davis

Ha ha, I forgot that Spurs also sent Nando to the frigid north!

[r0drig0lac]

No sweat we got the other Davis

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smihat.gif

[Leetonidas]

Gonna be funny to see Ainge miss out once again because he values his assets way too much

[absoloot66]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1089931201937313792

:lmao

[BillMc]

No sweat we got the other Davis
:toast

[BillMc]

LAL has made the mistake of overrating their assets twice now. Two playoff runs is enough to get A-offers from the other teams. I don't buy that Boston is the only team that could beat LA, especially since I've been hearing that the Lakers are again trying to hold pieces back. You don't have to be an elite team to put yourself out there. A team like the Knicks or Nets have nothing to lose and pieces that can get it done.

You would think the Knicks could get in the game with Porzingis, another young piece and draft picks.

[Budkin]

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[Chinook]

You would think the Knicks could get in the game with Porzingis, another young piece and draft picks.

Yep, and if they can get NOP to take back bad money, they could open up a lot of cap space.

[Leetonidas]

I know Spurs ain't gonna do shit and even though hes overrated spurs should still look into it. Something like DDR + Murray + Torontos pick wouldn't be terrible tbh. Dell demps is a pretty shitty GM Imo

[r0drig0lac]

BREAKING: In the coming days, expect AD’s agent, Rich Paul, to name the Lakers his desired destination and the ONLY team he’d re-sign with, sources say.

funny...like all stars

[BillMc]

I guess the question is "Will NOP do better or worse trading Davis than Spurs did trading Leonard?" Kawhi basically gave us a 2 team list, LAL or LAC, which suppressed the market (and given that RC did a nice job). Davis has (so far) asked only for a "championship contender" which may be wider I guess in theory.

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

*edit*

i guess they deleted the original tweet. The Pelicans put out a tweet saying:

“This past weekend, Anthony Davis’ representatives informed us that Anthony does not wish to sign a contract extension with our team and subsequently has requested a trade. Although we are disappointed in this decision, our organization’s top priority is to bring an NBA championship to our city and fans and build our team for long-term success.Relative to specific talks of a trade, we will do this on our terms and our timeline. One that makes the most sense for our team and it will not be dictated by those outside of our organization. We have also requested the League to strictly enforce the tampering rules associated with this transaction.”

[BillMc]

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Spurs ball boy wants more balls or seeks trade. Today's NBA.

[GusT15]

*edit*

i guess they deleted the original tweet. The Pelicans put out a tweet saying:

“This past weekend, Anthony Davis’ representatives informed us that Anthony does not wish to sign a contract extension with our team and subsequently has requested a trade. Although we are disappointed in this decision, our organization’s top priority is to bring an NBA championship to our city and fans and build our team for long-term success.Relative to specific talks of a trade, we will do this on our terms and our timeline. One that makes the most sense for our team and it will not be dictated by those outside of our organization. We have also requested the League to strictly enforce the tampering rules associated with this transaction.”

Holy shit,they actually asked Silver to intervene for potential tampering! Way to go Pels,i didn't really think you had the balls for calling out the agent and the Lakers!

[BillMc]

Holy shit,they actually asked Silver to intervene for potential tampering! Way to go Pels,i didn't really think you had the balls for calling out the agent and the Lakers!

+1 billion

Hope they penalize LA or Rich Paul's agency.

[SpurSpike]

Holy shit,they actually asked Silver to intervene for potential tampering! Way to go Pels,i didn't really think you had the balls for calling out the agent and the Lakers!

Its just too obvious to ignore. The Lakers really are their own worst enemy sometimes...

[lmbebo]

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Could see him in a bigger trade or maybe a curtesy dump from Rockets for pics to free up cap space maybe? D'antoni doesn't go deep in bench...

[sasaint]

Could see him in a bigger trade or maybe a curtesy dump from Rockets for pics to free up cap space maybe? D'antoni doesn't go deep in bench...

The question is: Did the Suns and Rockets just fail to develop him, or is he a bona fide bust?

[RD2191]

What I fucking hate about all of these stars demanding trade is the bullshit "I want to win" excuse. Mother fuckers, the Spurs are the winningest franchise in the NBA in the last 20 years. Fuck.

[Spurs fever]

I can see the owners getting fed up with players requesting trades in the middle of their contracts. I see a rule coming soon.

[NASpurs]

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[Spurs fever]

What I fucking hate about all of these stars demanding trade is the bullshit "I want to win" excuse. Mother fuckers, the Spurs are the winningest franchise in the NBA in the last 20 years. Fuck. Winning is a cover up. They would prefer to win but don't mind losing in a big market. It's why even though I'm not the biggest Aldridge fan I give him respect for choosing a winning organization. I really don't get why he was considering Phoenix thing tho lol....Lots of players seem to love Pop but don't wanna play for him.

[exstatic]

I can see the owners getting fed up with players requesting trades in the middle of their contracts. I see a rule coming soon.

There is one already. What usually happens is that there is a 'leak' implying that the player or his representation wants a trade.

Glad to see that the NOP aren't going to be rushed into anything.

[sasaint]

I can see the owners getting fed up with players requesting trades in the middle of their contracts. I see a rule coming soon.

Nah. Status quo favors big markets - just what the NWA, er NBA wants.

[RD2191]

Winning is a cover up. They would prefer to win but don't mind losing in a big market. It's why even though I'm not the biggest Aldridge fan I give him respect for choosing a winning organization. I really don't get why he was considering Phoenix thing tho lol....Lots of players seem to love Pop but don't wanna play for him.

Yup, pretty much. I just wish they'd cut the bullshit though.

[John B]

I know Spurs ain't gonna do shit and even though hes overrated spurs should still look into it. Something like DDR + Murray + Torontos pick wouldn't be terrible tbh. Dell demps is a pretty shitty GM Imo
Can DDR handle 2 rejections in this lifetime tbh?

[Chillen]

If Spurs want Davis it's going to cost either Aldridge or DeMar and Murray, Lonnie and that Toronto 1st rounder. They still need to make an offer for a player as good as Davis. I really don't want to break up the Aldridge/DeMar duo but it's for Davis.

[r0drig0lac]

Winning is a cover up. They would prefer to win but don't mind losing in a big market. It's why even though I'm not the biggest Aldridge fan I give him respect for choosing a winning organization. I really don't get why he was considering Phoenix thing tho lol....Lots of players seem to love Pop but don't wanna play for him.

look kawhi stats, stars would put fewer numbers in SA, that's why they do not want to play here, Parker, Manu, these guys would put bigger numbers anywhere, in a more "free" system, even if they did not win

[FireMicoHalili]

let me know if I'm wrong, but this is a list of people who wanted to be dealt/are most likely on the move by the deadline

Robin Lopez, CHI
JR Smith, CLE
pretty much anyone on MIA
Thon Maker, MIL
Enes Kanter, NY
Tim Hardaway Jr., NY
Dennis Smith Jr., DAL
Carmelo Anthony, CHI/HOU/god knows where he is
Milos Teodosic, LAC
all those young scrubs the Lakers wouldn't trade for nephew
Mike Conley, MEM
Marc Gasol, MEM
Chandler Parsons, MEM
Nikola Mirotic, NOP
Ryan Anderson, PHX
Marquese Chriss, HOU

I'd expect a Davis trade to at least include a third team if he wants to get dealt to Boston, a deal which would probably include one of these guys.

PS the Eric Salinas dude stole the Taurean Prince idea from here lol so much for original takes

[Chillen]

As for the Lakers talk the salaries don't even match up for AD, they would pretty much have to coax NO to accept all their trash pretty much almost the whole team, lol. The Lakers roster would be thin to if the Pelicans are stupid enough to agree to it. There would have to be a third team involved and who in the NBA would be so stupid to help the Lakers get Anthony Davis. I just don't get why the Pelicans would want the Lakers offer when they can and will get so many better offers for Davis. This definitely seems media driven like the Kawhi to LA leaks.

[mo7888]

You have to wonder if the Celtics feel pressure to move Kyrie to a third team so they can trade for AD now?

[FireMicoHalili]

You have to wonder if the Celtics feel pressure to move Kyrie to a third team so they can trade for AD now?
they probably won't, but I'd like to see them try. Slaps Irving in the face and gives back the youngsters the mojo they had in last year's ECF. Rozier was doing fine.

[Dverde]

:lol People thinking Adam Silver is in charge.

[FireMicoHalili]

As for the Lakers talk the salaries don't even match up for AD, they would pretty much have to coax NO to accept all their trash pretty much almost the whole team, lol. The Lakers roster would be thin to if the Pelicans are stupid enough to agree to it. There would have to be a third team involved and who in the NBA would be so stupid to help the Lakers get Anthony Davis. I just don't get why the Pelicans would want the Lakers offer when they can and will get so many better offers for Davis. This definitely seems media driven like the Kawhi to LA leaks.
KCP, Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma should make the numbers work easily.

[Chillen]

KCP, Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma should make the numbers work easily.

If I am the Lakers I would not trade Ingram.

[FireMicoHalili]

If I am the Lakers I would not trade Ingram.
that's a matter of appreciating trade value, but the numbers still work. None of their guys are good enough to deal for AD except LeBron. Even Kuzma can't carry a team on his lonesome. NOP is better off with a package centered on Tatum and Rozier/Smart.

The numbers still work though.

[DPG21920]

If I am the Lakers I would not trade Ingram.

:lmao You have that wrong. If you are NO, you absolutely do not accept a package of Ingram/Zo and whatever for AD. You can’t.

They are below average to maybe average players with low ceilings. You either get more win now players/vets or you get the #1 pick from CHI/PHX or whomever.

[ceperez]

let me know if I'm wrong, but this is a list of people who wanted to be dealt/are most likely on the move by the deadline

Robin Lopez, CHI
JR Smith, CLE
pretty much anyone on MIA
Thon Maker, MIL
Enes Kanter, NY
Tim Hardaway Jr., NY
Dennis Smith Jr., DAL
Carmelo Anthony, CHI/HOU/god knows where he is
Milos Teodosic, LAC
all those young scrubs the Lakers wouldn't trade for nephew
Mike Conley, MEM
Marc Gasol, MEM
Chandler Parsons, MEM
Nikola Mirotic, NOP
Ryan Anderson, PHX
Marquese Chriss, HOU

I'd expect a Davis trade to at least include a third team if he wants to get dealt to Boston, a deal which would probably include one of these guys.

PS the Eric Salinas dude stole the Taurean Prince idea from here lol so much for original takes

Weren't the hawks offering Dedmon, Prince and Bazemore?

[FireMicoHalili]

:lmao You have that wrong. If you are NO, you absolutely do not accept a package of Ingram/Zo and whatever for AD. You can’t.

They are below average to maybe average players with low ceilings. You either get more win now players/vets or you get the #1 pick from CHI/PHX or whomever.
the Pelicans are essentially getting scrubs who were supposed to be top picks with the exception of Kuzma, who seems like an empty calories scorer. Ingram clearly can't move the needle substantially.

[FireMicoHalili]

Weren't the hawks offering Dedmon, Prince and Bazemore?
right thanks for pointing that out man

[Strategic]

Pels are screwed. Even if they score a ton of cap space, they won’t be able to sign a real difference maker without Davis in the house. Probably best to do total rebuild. Go for most draft picks as they can. Too bad they don’t have anybody else worth a Spurs pick.

[BillMc]

Pels sucking should help the Spurs annual win total for a few years. Thanks AD! No go East young man.

[lmbebo]

right thanks for pointing that out man


Davis can't go to Boston until July because of some Rose Rule and about Rookie extension or something. A team can only have 1 at a time. Kyrie is already there, so until he signs a new agreement this summer, Boston can't trade with NO for Davis.

[DPG21920]

Davis can't go to Boston until July because of some Rose Rule and about Rookie extension or something. A team can only have 1 at a time. Kyrie is already there, so until he signs a new agreement this summer, Boston can't trade with NO for Davis.

True, unless Kyrie is involved in the deal.

[lmbebo]

True, unless Kyrie is involved in the deal.


True, but heard that isn't going to happen. I think Boston would secretly liked to dump Hayward, but no one wants him now.

[mo7888]

they probably won't, but I'd like to see them try. Slaps Irving in the face and gives back the youngsters the mojo they had in last year's ECF. Rozier was doing fine.

I'd like to see them try and I'd like to get in on the Kyrie side of the deal.

[BD24]

Yea this has LA written all over it sadly. With Boston hand-cuffed right now, I really don’t see another team being able to offer more than LA can, even if their young core is overrated as fuck. Brooklyn maaybe, with their abundance of picks and young talent, but doubtful. Lebron is going to get his way one way or the other, me thinks.


Hope the Pels don’t rush it and just wait til the offseason where the C’s can offer the best package.
This, if I'm the Celtics I'm telling them wait till this summer and I'll get you a better package than whatever shit the Lakers are peddling you.

[FireMicoHalili]

how the Pelicans tried (and failed) to surround Davis with an ample supporting cast merits a discussion. They're currently bottom three in the West if I'm not mistaken.

[cd98]

how the Pelicans tried (and failed) to surround Davis with an ample supporting cast merits a discussion. They're currently bottom three in the West if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, But Davis is a superstar and the best he can do is bottom three team in the West? So he’s Twolves Kevin Love?

[FireMicoHalili]

Yes, But Davis is a superstar and the best he can do is bottom three team in the West? So he’s Twolves Kevin Love?
the guy averages almost 30 and 14 a game, clearly not lacking effort on his end

[lmbebo]

if I'm NO, I say the discussion starts and ends with Lebron. Trade Lebron for AD. Nothing else will do.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Today’s NBA

Bunch of divas and quitters all around this league.

[lmbebo]

:lol Today’s NBA

Bunch of divas and quitters all around this league.

All of them.

[talkspurs]

not going to happen but one can dream.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yajecwnj
NY get Kyrie and a good big to replace KP plus a big for future.
Bosten gets AD
NO comes out doing pretty well in the deal with lots of young players.
Spurs easily win this trade which is why it wouldnt happen but getting a 4 team trade through the trade machine is not easy. Some of our better players could be thrown in as well as picks.

[Russ]

I thought Anthony Davis was the next Tim Duncan when he came out of Kentucky.

But after missing the playoffs 4 times in 6 years, that ship has sailed . . .

[MoSpur02]

:lol Today’s NBA

Bunch of divas and quitters all around this league.

This

[tbdog]

I think Randle could be an option with Gasol and 1st.

[cd98]

the guy averages almost 30 and 14 a game, clearly not lacking effort on his end

Twolves Kevin Love put up superstar numbers too.

[Russ]

I think Randle could be an option with Gasol and 1st.

I think the league might investigate (but I like it).

[Mr. Body]

I thought Anthony Davis was the next Tim Duncan when he came out of Kentucky.

But after missing the playoffs 4 times in 6 years, that ship has sailed . . .

Dude, never count on a Calipari-coached player. They get as far as athletic prowess and basic skills, but they barely ever improve. I could have told you Anthony Davis would be the same player now as he was coming in. This isn't a guy who can improve players around him. No Calipari player is.

[Fusternino]

Thoughts? Gets to be on a good team with Bud. Spurs get back a 3&D player who isn't getting the minutes he deserves.

[8FOR!3]

Tony Snell is horrible. Patty Mills at least provides some sort of value most nights.

[XDT76]

not going to happen but one can dream.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yajecwnj
NY get Kyrie and a good big to replace KP plus a big for future.
Bosten gets AD
NO comes out doing pretty well in the deal with lots of young players.
Spurs easily win this trade which is why it wouldnt happen but getting a 4 team trade through the trade machine is not easy. Some of our better players could be thrown in as well as picks.

Since we are on fantasy, let's try mills and Pau and Toronto pick for AD. The numbers works.

[Fusternino]

Still a more realistic trade than anything else proposed on here, tbh.

[UnWantedTheory]

Still a more realistic trade than anything else proposed on here, tbh.
What is the point of a realistic trade if it is a bad one?

[r0drig0lac]

Klay Thompson is reportedly interested in signing with the Lakers if Anthony Davis is traded there! via Adrian Wojnarowski.

damn

[Dverde]

Klay Thompson is reportedly interested in signing with the Lakers if Anthony Davis is traded there! via Adrian Wojnarowski.

damn

Horry better clutch those pearls if this happens. Klay could easily get three more titles on this super team.

[RC_Drunkford]

I hope NOLA trades AD to the Wizards. Or Grizzlies. Or Bucks. Or Celtics. Nets or Knicks maybe. Just please not the Lakers

[FutureMan]

Marc Gasol said it would be “funny if he was traded to the Spurs for Pau” and that he would “like that”

[cd021]

Celtics couldn’t trade for Davis until this Summer due to the Rose Rule and them having Kyrie on
the roster. It’d have to be LA or another suitor. I think Rich Paul and Anthony Davis REALLY want LA. Hope the Pels don’t break and give him up for some shittyvpacksge centered around Lonzo, Kuzma, and/or Ingram.

Lonzo, Kuzma, Imgram and Hart for Davis and filler is still a pretty trash offer tbh. Ingram is looking more and more like his ceiling is as an mediocre NBA player.

Hart and Kuzma are the most intriguing of the four but not enough to justify moving A.D. Lonzo is the shoulder shrug emoji to me.

[cd021]

If I am the Lakers I would not trade Ingram.

He's been a bad NBA player this far, three seasons in. They'd be stupid not to include him and hope that NOP doesn't realize how bad he is.

[cd021]

Marc Gasol said it would be “funny if he was traded to the Spurs for Pau” and that he would “like that”

I really hope PATFO doesn't do something that stupid tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

Marc Gasol said it would be “funny if he was traded to the Spurs for Pau” and that he would “like that”

where did he say that?

[Duncan87]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)

[Duncan87]

Hell Rc waiting for dude just really said he want to be in San Antonio

[r0drig0lac]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)

hum....

[NASpurs]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)

A couple of years ago, no brainer.

[Degoat]

lol that’s funny, I like Marc Gasol and he’d definitely be an upgrade but I don’t know how well him and LA would mesh

[look_at_g_shred]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)
I have no idea why i read that in the Steven Avery voice lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)

Cool, I just wanted to see the original source. Doesn't make much sense with his contract, but Pau and Dante for Marc works and would make us better. I'd still rather have a wing though

[Duncan87]

Maybe throw in Garret temple Spurs throw in Qpon

[BD24]

*edit*

i guess they deleted the original tweet. The Pelicans put out a tweet saying:

“This past weekend, Anthony Davis’ representatives informed us that Anthony does not wish to sign a contract extension with our team and subsequently has requested a trade. Although we are disappointed in this decision, our organization’s top priority is to bring an NBA championship to our city and fans and build our team for long-term success.Relative to specific talks of a trade, we will do this on our terms and our timeline. One that makes the most sense for our team and it will not be dictated by those outside of our organization. We have also requested the League to strictly enforce the tampering rules associated with this transaction.”
Good for them tbh. I hope they trade him anywhere but LA as a fuck You to them tbh

[Dverde]

The Gasol for Gasol would work without Patty or Bertans. Just add a couple cheap pieces like Forbes and Cunningham. It would be the most unique team in the league. I would prefer someone like Julius Randle. Both big guys can shoot from the perimeter and Gasol is a good 3 point shooter. It could work...

[FutureMan]

Cool, I just wanted to see the original source. Doesn't make much sense with his contract, but Pau and Dante for Marc works and would make us better. I'd still rather have a wing though

A three team trade and the Spurs could have both Marc Gasol and a wing

[exstatic]

The Gasol for Gasol would work without Patty or Bertans. Just add a couple cheap pieces like Forbes and Cunningham. It would be the most unique team in the league. I would prefer someone like Julius Randle. Both big guys can shoot from the perimeter and Gasol is a good 3 point shooter. It could work...

He's a couple of years removed from the All D team, and is rapidly slowing down like his bro Pau. You're just basically rolling back to Pau when he signed with CHI. He's on the precipice of old, and yet will still want to be paid.

I'd love Randle, just to stick it to Magic J, but I doubt that N.O. moves him. He's a nice enough, young enough piece to keep around for your rebuild. They would offload players like Jrue. He'll be 29 when next season starts, makes big bank, and is now on record as saying that he stayed mostly because of Davis. Some team will want that, if they're already in the playoff hunt.

[SpursDynasty85]

lol that’s funny, I like Marc Gasol and he’d definitely be an upgrade but I don’t know how well him and LA would mesh

Gasol would mesh with pretty much every team because he passes so well. The only struggle would be perimeter defense but some of that would be negated by the increase in interior defense. They are great combo because Gasol is a good 3 point shooter and he could play the high low game and both Aldridge and Gasol are good pick and roll players.

[Dverde]

He's a couple of years removed from the All D team, and is rapidly slowing down like his bro Pau. You're just basically rolling back to Pau when he signed with CHI. He's on the precipice of old, and yet will still want to be paid.

I'd love Randle, just to stick it to Magic J, but I doubt that N.O. moves him. He's a nice enough, young enough piece to keep around for your rebuild. They would offload players like Jrue. He'll be 29 when next season starts, makes big bank, and is now on record as saying that he stayed mostly because of Davis. Some team will want that, if they're already in the playoff hunt.

He’s still an upgrade over his brother and Cunningham. The question is it worth an asset or two. I still have a tough time picturing these two division rivals doing a trade. Randle is trickier as he is a free agent next year. Not sure how he feels about playing for a horrible team, he’ll probably take the highest contract offer. Ironically he may be playing with a bunch of traded Lakers.

[exstatic]

He’s still an upgrade over his brother and Cunningham. The question is it worth an asset or two. I still have a tough time picturing these two division rivals doing a trade. Randle is trickier as he is a free agent next year. Not sure how he feels about playing for a horrible team, he’ll probably take the highest contract offer. Ironically he may be playing with a bunch of traded Lakers.

Wouldn't it be funny if their youngster castoffs made the playoffs. That would be a pretty stinging indictment of the Laker FO.

[exstatic]

He’s still an upgrade over his brother and Cunningham. The question is it worth an asset or two. I still have a tough time picturing these two division rivals doing a trade. Randle is trickier as he is a free agent next year. Not sure how he feels about playing for a horrible team, he’ll probably take the highest contract offer. Ironically he may be playing with a bunch of traded Lakers.

Marc could be a FA THIS summer. He has an option.

I'm just not a fan of buying guys so close to their 'sell by' date.

[Keepin' it real]

Klay Thompson is reportedly interested in signing with the Lakers if Anthony Davis is traded there! via Adrian Wojnarowski.

damn

Fucking millennials ruining America.

[BD24]

Dude, never count on a Calipari-coached player. They get as far as athletic prowess and basic skills, but they barely ever improve. I could have told you Anthony Davis would be the same player now as he was coming in. This isn't a guy who can improve players around him. No Calipari player is.
Davis is the same player now as he was coming in? Dude your usually a decent poster, but this is some stupid shit even by ST standards tbh

[ceperez]

“I know, that’s pretty crazy, this whole ride there has been a Gasol at the Media Day at least,” Gasol said. “That’s pretty impressive. My son is only two. (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back) . . . But maybe I’ll get traded to San Antonio and Pau comes back, who knows? That would be kind of funny. There’s a part of me that would like that. He still has a place here, the same place, my parents live in it. My parents have been here the whole ride.”
– via Daily Memphian (https://www.dailymemphian.com/section/sports/article/2712/Calkins-Marc-Gasol-embraced-Memphis-and-Memphis-embraced-him-right-back)


Appears a trade that includes Pau and Cunningham will work! http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8sh65v2 . They can even throw in Raptors 1st round as a sweetener.

I would do this, Spurs are definitely competitive with Marc Gasol in the lineup!

Marc Gasol/Aldridge/Gay/DeRozan/White
Poetl/Bertans/Belinelli/Forbes/Mills

[szkorhetz]

Griffin asked to be traded too...

[ceperez]

He’s still an upgrade over his brother and Cunningham. The question is it worth an asset or two. I still have a tough time picturing these two division rivals doing a trade. Randle is trickier as he is a free agent next year. Not sure how he feels about playing for a horrible team, he’ll probably take the highest contract offer. Ironically he may be playing with a bunch of traded Lakers.

Well, Memphis is not competitive and going into rebuilding mode. So Pau and Cunningham open up a ton of capspace.

Besides, Memphis will accommodate Marc's wishes and getting Pau back for his retirement tour makes sense (I don't think Pau will want to go anywhere else).

[Chinook]

Griffin asked to be traded too...

Would probably be a better fit with DeRozan than Aldridge is, but I prefer to keep rolling with LMA and look to change DeMar is things have to change.

[exstatic]

Griffin asked to be traded too...

[crickets]

No one cares.

[szkorhetz]

Would probably be a better fit with DeRozan than Aldridge is, but I prefer to keep rolling with LMA and look to change DeMar is things have to change.
Griffin is the player I would like to see the most in SA out of all non-Spurs materials, but yeah, it's not gonna happen.

[Dverde]

I always thought Griffin would end up on OKC. I can’t see anyone except Washington wanting Griffin at his price. Wall and as many drafts as possible under league rules.

[tbdog]

Griffin is on a huge contract. Plus I feel Griffin is about his image and market that winning now.

[Mr. Body]

Davis is the same player now as he was coming in? Dude your usually a decent poster, but this is some stupid shit even by ST standards tbh

Pretty much is. What, his stats are a bit better? WGAF? Win games, motherfucker. Dude disappears constantly and has no fricken idea how to make players better. His teams are just as crappy as they were five years ago. So, yeah, get excited about empty stats. I just see a player getting by on natural talent and that's it.

[itzsoweezee]

If the Spurs were to trade Pau for Mark, is that a better starting lineup than one with Bertans? I'm doubtful. I think the defense could really suffer with an Aldridge/Gasol front line

[TheGreatYacht]

Only a fucking retard wouldn't want Blake Griffin. He's having a monster year that's being ignored because he's in shitty Detroit. He's even better than when he used to shit on us with triple doubles.

He's averaging a Lebron line of 26/8/5 for the season and is playing out of his mind in January (31/6/5).

If the option to get him is there, you do it. Especially for a 33yr old Aldridge or DePressed choke artist.

[r0drig0lac]

Griffin is the player I would like to see the most in SA out of all non-Spurs materials, but yeah, it's not gonna happen.

same here

[ceperez]

Griffin is the player I would like to see the most in SA out of all non-Spurs materials, but yeah, it's not gonna happen.

Griffin is too expensive!

[exstatic]

Only a fucking retard wouldn't want Blake Griffin. He's having a monster year that's being ignored because he's in shitty Detroit. He's even better than when he used to shit on us with triple doubles.

He's averaging a Lebron line of 26/8/5 for the season and is playing out of his mind in January (31/6/5).

If the option to get him is there, you do it. Especially for a 33yr old Aldridge or DePressed choke artist.

Only a fucking retard would want to pay a player $140M over the next four years when he's averaged 55 games played over the previous four years. I don't hate his game, but I hate his M*A*S*H propensity. He's a fucking China doll.

[TheGreatYacht]

Griffin is too expensive!
He's no Rozier and Yabusele, that's for sure.

[Degoat]

Yeah guys Blake griffin has been great this year, idk if I’d swap him for LA or DeMar but he’s been really good

[John B]

Good for them tbh. I hope they trade him anywhere but LA as a fuck You to them tbh
Sounds like it. Small market should help each other to shove this up Fakers. Demar, Murray and Raps 1st pick.

[Seventyniner]

The wanting-out cancer is spreading, god damn.

If I were the owners, I would tell the players league to go fuck themselves, all contracts are one year only, with some injury kickers.

[GusT15]

Pelicans asked Silver to investigate tampering in the Anthony Davis request for a trade and the NBA brought the hammer down on Rich Paul and the Lakers by.....giving a 50k fine to Davis and closing the case.

Man,fuck this charade,fuck the Lakers and fuck Adam Silver.

[SpurSpike]

Pelicans asked Silver to investigate tampering in the Anthony Davis request for a trade and the NBA brought the hammer down on Rich Paul and the Lakers by.....giving a 50k fine to Davis and closing the case.

Man,fuck this charade,fuck the Lakers and fuck Adam Silver.

Wow really? Chump change... Probably pays it with a smile and a thank you!

Anti Tampering needs to be a HARSH punishment. Its not really a punishment when you are fining multi million dollar players 50k...

[8FOR!3]

Yeah guys Blake griffin has been great this year, idk if I’d swap him for LA or DeMar but he’s been really good

Him and LMA are kinda redundant. I don’t think they can play together and I don’t think he’s worth replacing LMA with. Don’t get me wrong though, Blake is a baller. Nice to see him having a good year

[TD 21]

Disregard Gasol's comments (matter fact, disregard any Spurs rumor that doesn't involve a big wing). I have no doubt he'd love to be a Spur, but that ship sailed for the same reasons his brother being a rotation player for this team has.



Him and LMA are kinda redundant. I don’t think they can play together and I don’t think he’s worth replacing LMA with. Don’t get me wrong though, Blake is a baller. Nice to see him having a good year

Not really. Griffin is closer to a big wing than a big. His ceiling is higher than Aldridge's, but Aldridge's floor is higher than his and given their style of play, body types and injury histories, Aldridge has a much better chance of maintaining relative effectiveness into his mid-late 30s.

[SpursDynasty85]

Him and LMA are kinda redundant. I don’t think they can play together and I don’t think he’s worth replacing LMA with. Don’t get me wrong though, Blake is a baller. Nice to see him having a good year

Similarly talent levels. One is younger and his talents are much better suited for today's NBA (Blake Griffin). Blake is easily too 10 player in today's NBA. LMA sits outside largely because he can't really pass or dribble.

[BillMc]

Not really. Griffin is closer to a big wing than a big. His ceiling is higher than Aldridge's, but Aldridge's floor is higher than his and given their style of play, body types and injury histories, Aldridge has a much better chance of maintaining relative effectiveness into his mid-late 30s.

Agree with this. LMA will always have that nice stroke and a big bruiser's body. He should age well. Griffin has so much of his game based on speed for a big man. Should age poorly. Hope I'm wrong as I like Blake and wish him well.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Griffin is always hurt. No thanks on him. He's a good player but that doesn't mean shit when ur on the bench for a 3rd of the season. We don't have the talent to survive our best player missing that much time and us making the playoffs.

[sasaint]

Yeah guys Blake griffin has been great this year, idk if I’d swap him for LA or DeMar but he’s been really good

I trade DeMar for Blake in a Detroit second.

[tbdog]

Similarly talent levels. One is younger and his talents are much better suited for today's NBA (Blake Griffin). Blake is easily too 10 player in today's NBA. LMA sits outside largely because he can't really pass or dribble.

How does a top 10 player not be in the playoffs in the east?

[sasaint]

Wow really? Chump change... Probably pays it with a smile and a thank you!

Anti Tampering needs to be a HARSH punishment. Its not really a punishment when you are fining multi million dollar players 50k...

Like a tip to his server, tbh.

[TD 21]

Similarly talent levels. One is younger and his talents are much better suited for today's NBA (Blake Griffin).

Blake is easily too 10 player in today's NBA
. LMA sits outside largely because he can't really pass or dribble.


Right now, top 15: James, Davis, Durant, Curry, Harden, Antetokounmpo, Leonard, Embiid, Jokic, Irving, George, Lillard, Towns, Griffin, Gobert.

[SpursDynasty85]

How does a top 10 player not be in the playoffs in the east?

Pau Gasol? Sometimes a change in culture and scenery is all you need. Griffin has Reggie Jackson, who is an ok talent but has a terrible attitude and IQ for basketball. Andre Drummond is overrated. The guy would be the 4th or 5th best player on a real contender. New coach this year.

[SpursDynasty85]

Right now, top 15: James, Davis, Durant, Curry, Harden, Antetokounmpo, Leonard, Embiid, Jokic, Irving, George, Lillard, Towns, Griffin, Gobert.





Idk. Griffin is a good alpha. Guy has all the talents plus a big bruiser mentality. Sometimes that can take you farther than what Irving, pg, or Lillard can bring. Gobert should not be on your list, Towns is still growing but for now I'll take Griffin.

[TD 21]

Idk. Griffin is a good alpha. Guy has all the talents plus a big bruiser mentality. Sometimes that can take you farther than what Irving, pg, or Lillard can bring. Gobert should not be on your list, Towns is still growing but for now I'll take Griffin.

The first 9 are definitively better, but either way, saying he's "easily a top 10 player" is overstating it.

Don't let a select few players (with rules tailored towards their being able to thrive) being able to exploit Gobert in a playoff series fool you. He's the most impactful defender in the league and despite being unable to create his own shot, he's still a good offensive player because of his elite screening, vertical spacing and finishing ability.

Towns has similar offensive impact to Griffin, with better defensive impact.

[SpursDynasty85]

The first 9 are definitively better, but either way, saying he's "easily a top 10 player" is overstating it.

Don't let a select few players (with rules tailored towards their being able to thrive) being able to exploit Gobert in a playoff series fool you. He's the most impactful defender in the league and despite being unable to create his own shot, he's still a good offensive player because of his elite screening, vertical spacing and finishing ability.

Towns has similar offensive impact to Griffin, with better defensive impact.

Ok I'll agree with overstated but the statement can easily be considered a top 10 player works. Lots of parity and there really is no definitive list of top individual players when it is a team game. This year Griffin is balling out. He is entering his true prime despite his injury history. He needs to be on a contender.

[lmbebo]

Going back to the Rozier rumor : how does the AD news impact those discussions?

[cd021]

The wanting-out cancer is spreading, god damn.

If I were the owners, I would tell the players league to go fuck themselves, all contracts are one year only, with some injury kickers.

One player want out?!- it's cancer lol.

New Orleans hasn't exactly helped their cause with poor decisions for years that helped get them in this predicament.

League is collectively bargained so the owners can't fuck the players over. Every situation is different and it's hard for me to blame AD entirely for this situation.

[sasaint]

The first 9 are definitively better, but either way, saying he's "easily a top 10 player" is overstating it.

Don't let a select few players (with rules tailored towards their being able to thrive) being able to exploit Gobert in a playoff series fool you. He's the most impactful defender in the league and despite being unable to create his own shot, he's still a good offensive player because of his elite screening, vertical spacing and finishing ability.

Towns has similar offensive impact to Griffin, with better defensive impact.

In my school yard I definitely pick Blake over Lillard.

[callo1]

Similarly talent levels. One is younger and his talents are much better suited for today's NBA (Blake Griffin). Blake is easily too 10 player in today's NBA. LMA sits outside largely because he can't really pass or dribble.

Younger and has spent more time in the shop than an AMC Gremlin.

Not a top 10 player imho.

LA's assist average this year: 2.6 vs. 5.2 for Griffin Not exactly earth shattering, especially when Pop isn't asking for LA to fill that role. LA could easily average 4-5 if they worked more inside out.

LA's stats: SUMMARY Griffin's stats: SUMMARY
2018-19 2018-19

G G
51 46

PTS PTS
20.9 26.5

TRB TRB
8.6 8.1

AST AST
2.6 5.2

FG% FG%
51.3 48.2

FG3% FG3%
21.1 36.5

FT% FT%
84.5 76.0

eFG% eFG%
51.6 54.7

PER PER
22.6 22.0

WS WS
5.4 5.3

BLKPG BLKPG
1.5 .5

MPG MPG
32.5 36.3

LA is and has been throughout his career a workhorse, and LA will retain his game at an older age.

If Griffin didn't have the injury situation in his past, it wouldn't be a big risk, but the fact that is has would scare me away.

Honestly, Unless Durant goes down, it won't really matter. I feel like the Spurs can match GS pretty well outside of Durant.

[sasaint]

One player want out?!- it's cancer lol.

New Orleans hasn't exactly helped their cause with poor decisions for years that helped get them in this predicament.

League is collectively bargained so the owners can't fuck the players over. Every situation is different and it's hard for me to blame AD entirely for this situation.

I think the talent around AD has been up-and-down, but the coaching has been consistently poor. I think with Pop AD would be a terror and a winner.

[Dverde]

I thought Anthony Davis was the next Tim Duncan when he came out of Kentucky.

But after missing the playoffs 4 times in 6 years, that ship has sailed . . .

Not according to NBA hack writers across the nation. AD probably already #12 all-time on their lists.

[Dverde]

I thought Anthony Davis was the next Tim Duncan when he came out of Kentucky.

But after missing the playoffs 4 times in 6 years, that ship has sailed . . .

Not according to NBA hack writers across the nation. AD probably already #12 all-time on their lists.

[Seventyniner]

One player want out?!- it's cancer lol.

New Orleans hasn't exactly helped their cause with poor decisions for years that helped get them in this predicament.

League is collectively bargained so the owners can't fuck the players over. Every situation is different and it's hard for me to blame AD entirely for this situation.

First Number 2, now AD, and rumors of Blake doing the same. Melo did this to Denver too.

[HarlemHeat37]

First Number 2, now AD, and rumors of Blake doing the same. Melo did this to Denver too.

This isn't a new thing, it's just more prominent due to social media and ESPN's transition into a gossip outlet(rather than journalism)..the major change is that the players today realize that they have most of the power, I suppose..

NBA players asking for trades, getting coaches fired and leaving small markets for big teams has been happening for over 40 years..in a sport where an individual player can change everything, it's not surprising that stars have massive egos and want to dictate everything..

[Seventyniner]

This isn't a new thing, it's just more prominent due to social media and ESPN's transition into a gossip outlet(rather than journalism)..the major change is that the players today realize that they have most of the power, I suppose..

NBA players asking for trades, getting coaches fired and leaving small markets for big teams has been happening for over 40 years..in a sport where an individual player can change everything, it's not surprising that stars have massive egos and want to dictate everything..

Fair points. Social media makes everything so much more visible. We don't have to rely on sports radio and TV to filter all the news.

Must suck to be a small market owner, knowing that you have to kowtow to the big markets to make more money. If the small market owners cared so much about pure competitive balance they would have voted for more parity-enhancing changes.

[Degoat]

I swear a defensive wing would do wonders for this team

[HarlemHeat37]

Fair points. Social media makes everything so much more visible. We don't have to rely on sports radio and TV to filter all the news.

Must suck to be a small market owner, knowing that you have to kowtow to the big markets to make more money. If the small market owners cared so much about pure competitive balance they would have voted for more parity-enhancing changes.

I feel for small market teams, but only when there's nothing that they could have done..Orlando losing Shaq to the Lakers, the Bucks losing Kareem to the Lakers, Raptors losing Bosh to the LeBron/Wade Heat, etc..

I feel the opposite way about incompetent small market teams like LeBron's Cavs, the current Pelicans, KG's Wolves, etc..

[cd021]

First Number 2, now AD, and rumors of Blake doing the same. Melo did this to Denver too.

-Melo? That was like 8 years ago, hard to use that as a part of a trend.

-Blake didn't want to be a Piston in the first place after re-signing with the Clips, plus that team's roster is a wasteland. Hard to blame him if he does tbh. That team is going nowhere.

-Hard to blame AD for wanting out of a poor situation.

-Kawhi, fuck Kawhi tbh.

[ismael-robert]

Kenneth Faried with 19pts, 11 rebounds; 2 blocks...i knew he wasnt done another spurs miss

[Degoat]

Kenneth Faried with 19pts, 11 rebounds; 2 blocks...i knew he wasnt done another spurs miss

I’m sure the spurs looked into adding him but Houston unfortunately was more appealing, more playing time and playing with 2 elite guards

[cd021]

I feel for small market teams, but only when there's nothing that they could have done..Orlando losing Shaq to the Lakers, the Bucks losing Kareem to the Lakers, Raptors losing Bosh to the LeBron/Wade Heat, etc..

I feel the opposite way about incompetent small market teams like LeBron's Cavs, the current Pelicans, KG's Wolves, etc..

-Dem's da breaks, though. Players have a right to chose where they want to play, that is a key part of the NBA CBA. The league loves it because star players change teams and it creates interest and buzz and makes the league relevant for 10 months a year. Star players aren't likely to love playing in Milwaukee when they could play in L.A. or NY.
-Agree on incompetent small market teams though. AD's Pels are definitely among them too.

[DAF86]

Kenneth Faried with 19pts, 11 rebounds; 2 blocks...i knew he wasnt done another spurs miss

D'antoni players stats will always get inflated, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kenneth Faried with 19pts, 11 rebounds; 2 blocks...i knew he wasnt done another spurs miss

His defense would fit in well with the current Spurs:lol

[anon]

Add Kyrie, Paul George and Eric Bledsoe to whatever player list y'all are compiling. I'm sure there's more if you do a little recollecting. It's been a player's league since Bron's LeDecision, don't act like this trend is a total surprise and none of you veteran posters did not see it coming.

Tell you one thing, the next generation of GMs and Presidents won't be oh-poor-me-ing at the new landscape if they want to keep their jobs and keep their respective franchises competitive. They will be forming bonds with agents of superstars more aggressively than ever. The tripod of talent acquisition will still be scouting, development and retention, the rise of the player's bargaining power simply made the game more intense for that last part.

[DAF86]

Add Kyrie, Paul George and Eric Bledsoe to whatever player list y'all are compiling. I'm sure there's more if you do a little recollecting. It's been a player's league since Bron's LeDecision, don't act like this trend is a total surprise and none of you veteran posters did not see it coming.

Tell you one thing, the next generation of GMs and Presidents won't be oh-poor-me-ing at the new landscape if they want to keep their jobs and keep their respective franchises competitive. They will be forming bonds with agents of superstars more aggressively than ever. The tripod of talent acquisition will still be scouting, development and retention, the rise of the player's bargaining power simply made the game more intense for that last part.

To me it's different when a guy says "I want to be traded" to "I want to be traded to X place". With the first example you are at least not putting a hinder on what your current team can get for you.

[HarlemHeat37]

To me it's different when a guy says "I want to be traded" to "I want to be traded to X place". With the first example you are at least not putting a hinder on what your current team can get for you.

I agree in theory, but even if Davis's camp didn't make it public, do you actually think his agent isn't out there behind the scenes telling teams that Davis won't sign there?

The front office people around the league always know IMO, we just hear about it now due to Woj, Windhorst, etc..

[anon]

To me it's different when a guy says "I want to be traded" to "I want to be traded to X place". With the first example you are at least not putting a hinder on what your current team can get for you.
Fair. Though a belated gradient to take a stand on when the franchise has already lost a talent resource it once possessed. The more systematic response would be building a more robust, layered network of relationships that keeps the talent in place.

[Dverde]

:lol AD’s agent saying he wants a competitive team then says the Knicks will work.

[R. DeMurre]

Kenneth Faried with 19pts, 11 rebounds; 2 blocks...i knew he wasnt done another spurs miss


But they lost at home to New Orleans-- without Anthony Davis-- and let Jahlil Okafor go off for 27 points & 12 rebounds.

[DPG21920]

One player want out?!- it's cancer lol.

New Orleans hasn't exactly helped their cause with poor decisions for years that helped get them in this predicament.

League is collectively bargained so the owners can't fuck the players over. Every situation is different and it's hard for me to blame AD entirely for this situation.

Good call :tu NO has been a disaster and a well run franchise like the Lakers deserves totally to pick them off. I mean, with NO being run so poorly I can see why going to the Lakers seems appealing.

[lmbebo]

Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.

[DPG21920]

Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.

100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.

[lmbebo]

100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.

As it should be.

Some old interesting reading about CBA/Profits/Revenue Sharing : https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/09/nbas-board-of-governors-to-examine-revenue-sharing-system.html

[John B]

100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.
That and stiffer penalty on tampering. It’s outlandish. I’m old enough to have watched players like MJ who worked hard to finally beat Detroit, not join them. Players had team loyalty and to their teammates. Nowadays it’s like watching video games how often players change teams. Fucking millennials

[TheGreatYacht]

Okafor and Faried shitting on the plus minus virgins that declared them scrubs :lol Fathead also shitting on them because they declared him good....

[marinoman]

The knicks are a big ass market, fa destination and all that so the fact that they’ve sucked so bad for so long is a god damn magic trick

[DPG21920]

I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.

[Duncan87]

Man really want them to get Marc Gasol big drop off when Ltrain gets rest

[Duncan87]

Dude already said it would be cool. Cmon RC

[HarlemHeat37]

I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.

They're conditioned to say the "right thing" due to a history of backlash from fans..

Fans like hearing players be "all about winning", they don't want to hear anything else..it's funny, NBA fans used to complain about players being all about the money, yet now they criticize them for taking pay cuts to form more talented teams:lol

[szkorhetz]

According to Stephen A. Smith, Gregg Popovich spoke to GM Dell Demps this week, telling Demps not to give in to Davis or the Lakers.

“I’ve been told that one of the people that Dell Demps has communicated with is Gregg Popovich,” said Smith on ESPN First Take, via FOX 29 San Antonio. “Not for trade talks or anything but a guy like Gregg Popovich has said, ‘Don’t cave to the Los Angeles Lakers.'”

[Spurs fever]

Well, the Kawhi situation hurt the organization. If you demand a trade, fine, but it's when you list them A or bust it becomes an issue.

[r0drig0lac]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252409/Nikola-Mirotic-Julius-Randle-E%EF%BF%BDTwaun-Moore-Available-For-Picks

randle please

[cd021]

Good call :tu NO has been a disaster and a well run franchise like the Lakers deserves totally to pick them off. I mean, with NO being run so poorly I can see why going to the Lakers seems appealing.


100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.

I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.


Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.

How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.

[exstatic]

D'antoni players stats will always get inflated, tbh.

Yup. Shawn Marion was case in point. When he left Pho, he turned into a 14-15 point scoring pumpkin.

Faried is doing well because in that offense, he has a lot of space to operate. Wouldn’t be the case here.

[exstatic]

I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.



How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.

Give the enforcement some teeth. Fines are shrugged off as nothing. Suspend them for 10 games in cases where there is proven collusion. Start de-certifying agents who are caught. Can you imagine Rich Paul no longer able to represent players?

[Duncan87]

Does it look like Spurs are showing teams Pau can still play cause his spot minutes don’t make sense?

[cd021]

Give the enforcement some teeth. Fines are shrugged off as nothing. Suspend them for 10 games in cases where there is proven collusion. Start de-certifying agents who are caught. Can you imagine Rich Paul no longer able to represent players?

Maybe, but I feel like teams shouldn't be courting other teams players so going hard after them would nip it in the bud. Hitting them with the loss of multiple draft picks ( that would be redispersed either in conference or to the team that is being interfered with, as well as losing $10 million of cap space for two seasons are pretty strong deterrents) and may be able to get more easily ratified in the next CBA. Agents would be up in arms and players (the top ones would obviously not want a possible suspension.

[cd021]

Does it look like Spurs are showing teams Pau can still play cause his spot minutes don’t make sense?
probably more to placate him. If he were to get moved it would probably be for salary matching purposes anyway and less about his on-court game.

[YGWHI]

Magic, LeBron and his agent doing everything to destroy Pels leverage in this trade...

NBA has to punish teams for tampering not just players/agents.

The league HAS TO VETO these trades when tampering and recruiting has been public.

[Seventyniner]

I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.

Doubly hypocritical because the Lakers and Knicks have shit FOs.

[SpurSpike]

Lebron was asked about tampering and you can almost see it in his eyes/smirk that he knows he tampered and tries (pretty pathetically) to defend it. When he denies the tampering he tries to belittle it, sounds like a little kid when they get caught lol. Question is at 2:15 in the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_8ZdJIsLI

[MoSpur02]

Interest in Marc Gasol? Mutual interest? I remember Marc talking about the Spurs organization two Gasols don't make a right. He is set to make $25 million next season. No way he opts out of that.

Here is the link.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-the-trade-deadline-should-be-fun/

[pad300]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252409/Nikola-Mirotic-Julius-Randle-E%EF%BF%BDTwaun-Moore-Available-For-Picks

randle please

Problem is that
Gasol + TOR pick for Randle + Filler
is really hard to make work because NOP has a distinct lack of filler that will work...Also, NOP would probably want the SAS pick this year, and that's relatively expensive. Finally, Randle doesn't have a 3pt shot, which makes him a challenging fit on the roster beside LMA/Poetl. However,
Gasol + TOR Pick for Mirotic
does work straight up, and late first is a pretty good value for NOP (given Miro is a rental, and Gasol is owed some money next year). Also of course, Miro is a much better fit in our lineup; he definetly has a 3 pt shot (36.8% currently, and takes .
Aldridge/Poetl
Gay/Mirotic
Demar/Bertans
White/Belinelli
Forbes/Mills
is actually pretty balanced. You could also easily flip Bertans into the starting lineup for Gay (when he's hurt, or just to give the SL more 3pt shooting...). The questions to my mind, is how much would Miro want/get in his FA?

[HarlemHeat37]

Yup. Shawn Marion was case in point. When he left Pho, he turned into a 14-15 point scoring pumpkin.

Faried is doing well because in that offense, he has a lot of space to operate. Wouldn’t be the case here.

Weird example, Marion was an All-Star before D'Antoni even got there IIRC..

Faried is a great energy player, a solid 9th man on a team that needs easy finishing + rebounding..he's isn't a championship-level player, which is why the Nuggets dumped him from the rotation for less talented players..

[Dverde]

Magic, LeBron and his agent doing everything to destroy Pels leverage in this trade...

NBA has to punish teams for tampering not just players/agents.

The league HAS TO VETO these trades when tampering and recruiting has been public.

The owners have lost almost all power. Commissioner’s office is gutless. Stern wouldn’t be putting up this garbage, but he was terrible in different ways. Only way owners get more power will be through another lockout. Players union rep will not concede anything. She is a pit bull that loves a fight.

[exstatic]

Problem is that
Gasol + TOR pick for Randle + Filler
is really hard to make work because NOP has a distinct lack of filler that will work...Also, NOP would probably want the SAS pick this year, and that's relatively expensive. Finally, Randle doesn't have a 3pt shot, which makes him a challenging fit on the roster beside LMA/Poetl. However,
Gasol + TOR Pick for Mirotic
does work straight up, and late first is a pretty good value for NOP (given Miro is a rental, and Gasol is owed some money next year). Also of course, Miro is a much better fit in our lineup; he definetly has a 3 pt shot (36.8% currently, and takes .
Aldridge/Poetl
Gay/Mirotic
Demar/Bertans
White/Belinelli
Forbes/Mills
is actually pretty balanced. You could also easily flip Bertans into the starting lineup for Gay (when he's hurt, or just to give the SL more 3pt shooting...). The questions to my mind, is how much would Miro want/get in his FA?

Solomon Hill or Etwun Moore/Randle both work with no other players involved.

[exstatic]

Weird example, Marion was an All-Star before D'Antoni even got there IIRC..

Faried is a great energy player, a solid 9th man on a team that needs easy finishing + rebounding..he's isn't a championship-level player, which is why the Nuggets dumped him from the rotation for less talented players..

D'Antoni was the lead assistant in 2002-2003, and likely had a lot of offensive input. Shawn made the AS team that year. D'Antoni was the HC the next year.

[Dverde]

I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again. I think Randle would be a great fit for the Spurs. LMA and Randle would be great together. I would like to keep Poeltl for depth purposes.

[pad300]

Solomon Hill or Etwun Moore/Randle both work with no other players involved.

Hill + Randle for Gasol pushes us into the lux tax this year, and I can't see the FO doing that. (You could say, send Cunningham with Gasol, which makes it borderline, but does Pop want to do that?)
Randle + Moore for Gasol commits us to Moore next year for the MLE (almost), as well as Randle. I don't love Moore (undersized 3 who's not very good), especially at that money...

In both cases, we'd have to cut someone, and I'm not too sure the FO does that.

Finally of course, do they do Randle for the TOR pick? Not so sure that they do...and I doubt we are willing to pay our pick. This move will not make us contenders (IMO, of course).

[RC_Drunkford]

this team needs SFs. I see no point in adding PFs

[pad300]

this team needs SFs. I see no point in adding PFs

It's not like we are strong on PF's either. LMA is a C these days. Gay and Bertans are both 3/4 tweeners. Mirotic is a modern perimeter PF.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Mirotic would be the perfect add imo. Give up a 1st for him and add a pretty lethal player who was flat out dominant in last years playoffs. I think he actually gives us a chance to compete with the top teams in the west

[Spurs da champs]

It's not like we are strong on PF's either. LMA is a C these days. Gay and Bertans are both 3/4 tweeners. Mirotic is a modern perimeter PF.

Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

[Chinook]

The Pelicans aren't getting a first for Randle straight up. The only team dumb enough to throw firsts after modest one-year upgrades is NOP themselves. And yes, Pop would send back Cun in a Hill deal. I'd hope he wouldn't add a pick to that though. Hill's negative as shit.

[DPG21920]

They're conditioned to say the "right thing" due to a history of backlash from fans..

Fans like hearing players be "all about winning", they don't want to hear anything else..it's funny, NBA fans used to complain about players being all about the money, yet now they criticize them for taking pay cuts to form more talented teams:lol

They aren’t going to more talented teams. They are asking for NY and LA lol

[pad300]

Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

Which good SF do you see us getting for the TOR pick and Gasol's partial guarantee? I agree, we could use two. How do we get them?
...
In the meanwhile, Pau + TOR pick for Mirotic , improve us this year, and saves us $6.3M next summer, and gives us Mirotic's bird rights. (We might want those bird rights, because I see no path to actual cap spac

[DPG21920]

I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.



How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.

Honoring your contract isn’t about staying the entire time. It’s about not using threat of fake injuries or exaggerate injuries to hold a team hostage. It’s about not sabotaging your trade value and tampering.

Feel free to move -don’t do the above.

[pad300]

The Pelicans aren't getting a first for Randle straight up. The only team dumb enough to throw firsts after modest one-year upgrades is NOP themselves. And yes, Pop would send back Cun in a Hill deal. I'd hope he wouldn't add a pick to that though. Hill's negative as shit.

I can see us doing
Pau + Cun for Randle + Hill
if it didn't push us into the tax, sure. But what's in it for NOP?

[Seventyniner]

In both cases, we'd have to cut someone, and I'm not too sure the FO does that.

People cut Q-Pons all the time.

[Chinook]

I can see us doing
Pau + Cun for Randle + Hill
if it didn't push us into the tax, sure. But what's in it for NOP?

They get out of Hill's deal. I know folks here are desperate for any SF, but Hill would be the worst contract on the team if traded for.

[pad300]

They get out of Hill's deal. I know folks here are desperate for any SF, but Hill would be the worst contract on the team if traded for.

Sorry, I thought hill was expiring. You're right, Hill would be by far the worst deal on the team. If Hill's not expiring, I don't think SAS does that trade; it would pretty much guaranteed the lux tax next season.

[absoloot66]

People cut Q-Pons all the time.

:toast

[RC_Drunkford]

Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

somebody understands it

[Dverde]

This is crazy time. The Spurs chances of doing a trade keeps fluctuating between 3 - 9%.

[davi78239]

I see we’re linked to Stanley Johnson again?? Hasn’t he been thrown out there for spurs the past year or two already?

[lmbebo]

I see we’re linked to Stanley Johnson again?? Hasn’t he been thrown out there for spurs the past year or two already?


Where are you reading that?

[Dverde]

Stanley Johnson...reminds me of the quest for Amir Johnson

[davi78239]

Where are you reading that?

Jabari young tweet

[Dverde]

Jabari young tweet

:lol All his sources are in Toranto.

[ceperez]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robwolkenbrod/2019/01/30/with-raptors-2019-first-round-pick-likely-to-convey-for-spurs-whats-its-value/

Tristan Thompson?
Trevor Ariza
Stanley Johnson?
Oubre Jr?
Justin Holiday?

[MoSpur02]

More Marc Gasol to the Spurs stuff here.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/marc-gasol-jokes-on-possibility-of-being-traded-to-spurs

[ceperez]

More Marc Gasol press: https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/2019/01/29/memphis-grizzlies-trade-marc-gasol-mike-conley-news-and-rumors/2699728002/

[Leetonidas]

Marc for Pau straight up is the only way I would do that trade. I think if Marc was playing with a team of vets like SA he would elevate his game as I half think he's declining because Memphis is trash and he's going through the motions. But still dude is old and not really a position of need for us.

[MoSpur02]

I think he's overpaid

[exstatic]

I think he's overpaid

Vastly.

[vavvi]

I like Marc but I don’t see LA + Marc working in today’s league. LA is a 5 now.
Also I don’t see why would we need Mirotic while having Gay and Bertrand especially if we need to give up a pick for that.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Marc for Pau straight up is the only way I would do that trade. I think if Marc was playing with a team of vets like SA he would elevate his game as I half think he's declining because Memphis is trash and he's going through the motions. But still dude is old and not really a position of need for us.

Can't happen cause Marc makes too much, it'd cost Bertans/Beli or some wild combination of players on low salaries ( they have to avoid the luxury tax too). And Toronto's pick. While the Spurs are unlikely to carry two more rookies on the roster next season I wouldn't give a first round pick for what may very well be a half a season rental.

[ceperez]

Can't happen cause Marc makes too much, it'd cost Bertans/Beli or some wild combination of players on low salaries ( they have to avoid the luxury tax too). And Toronto's pick. While the Spurs are unlikely to carry two more rookies on the roster next season I wouldn't give a first round pick for what may very well be a half a season rental.

Include Cunningham... works: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8sh65v2

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Include Cunningham... works: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8sh65v2

They're not going to pay the luxury tax, no way.

[cool cat]

Jabari young tweet

Has that guy gotten anything correct?
He also said the Spurs were going to be spoiled in the off-season a few days before the Kawhi situation hit the fan.

[DAF86]

All these trades regarding centers and point guards make no goddamn sense. Stop posting them.

[MoSpur02]

I don't understand why the Spurs would be linked to a center. Makes no sense to me. They need help at the SF position. However, if they're going to trade for a center then why not a younger, cheaper, more athletic center like Dedmon?

[TD 21]

I don't understand why the Spurs would be linked to a center. Makes no sense to me. They need help at the SF position. However, if they're going to trade for a center then why not a younger, cheaper, more athletic center like Dedmon?

Don't believe the hype. The only center they might trade for is a third one, on a dead money contract, as a secondary piece (to a big wing) coming back in a possible Gasol trade.

The Gasol link is lazy and outdated because he's regarded as a prototypical Spur (in terms of style of play) and has clearly long contemplated playing here, but there's no reason to think the current big configuration/rotation won't be maintained for the foreseeable future.

[GreekSpursfan]

Marc for his brother is an obvious upgrage but unfortunately it has 0.00001% of happening.

[UnWantedTheory]

All these trades regarding centers and point guards make no goddamn sense. Stop posting them.

[tbdog]

Randle would be a great pickup for now and the future. But we have other areas to deal with.

[cjw]

Can't happen cause Marc makes too much, it'd cost Bertans/Beli or some wild combination of players on low salaries ( they have to avoid the luxury tax too). And Toronto's pick. While the Spurs are unlikely to carry two more rookies on the roster next season I wouldn't give a first round pick for what may very well be a half a season rental.

Way better to package the picks to move up in the draft if there is someone they’re targeting. Wouldn’t be surprised if one rookie, assuming they draft two, is an overseas stash.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Way better to package the picks to move up in the draft if there is someone they’re targeting. Wouldn’t be surprised if one rookie, assuming they draft two, is an overseas stash.

Yep, this would be a better use of the second pick if they could package them and move up to 14-15-ish and grab KZ Okpala or someone else they might target.

[r0drig0lac]

Randle and Mirotic took Pelicans stuff out of their profiles.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

NO will expect 1st round picks for Mirotic and Randle but I don't think any team would give that for half a season rental of UFAs. Certainly hope the Spurs wouldn't.

[YoungbuckMurray]

NO will expect 1st round picks for Mirotic and Randle but I don't think any team would give that for half a season rental of UFAs. Certainly hope the Spurs wouldn't.
I think I would give the Toronto pick for Mitotic

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I think I would give the Toronto pick for Mitotic

I don't think he'd be a difference maker, say between getting to the playoffs and advancing further. Besides he'd take minutes from Bertans and I'm not even sure he'd be an upgradr at all. At best he'd provide some depth but I don't think it's worth the pick especially since he can just walk away in the summer, being a UFA.

I think they'll look to address the depth in the buyout market.

[YoungbuckMurray]

I don't think he'd be a difference maker, say between getting to the playoffs and advancing further. Besides he'd take minutes from Bertans and I'm not even sure he'd be an upgradr at all. At best he'd provide some depth but I don't think it's worth the pick especially since he can just walk away in the summer, being a UFA.

I think they'll look to address the depth in the buyout market.

I think he would just be really nice for the second unit playing with Davis. Moves Davis to the 3 where I think he may be better suited as he seems to guard the perimeter better than inside. Also takes pressure off of Davis rebounding. This would also take some minutes off of Demar

white-Forbes-DeRozan-gay-Aldridge
mills- Belinelli- Bertans- mirotic- Poeltl

i love that second unit