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Pavlov
02-06-2019, 07:58 PM
Spurm fans :lol pay pau and mills! They deserved their contract! :cry otto porter is trash! Would never want him on our team! :cry fuckin faggots :lolNot trash. Super overpaid.

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 07:58 PM
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SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 07:59 PM
Not trash. Super overpaid.

Lots of players are overpaid. Sometimes you have to take risks. This front office is NOT taking any risks for what is clearly a flawed team that needs a roster improvement.

YoungbuckMurray
02-06-2019, 08:00 PM
Pau+Forbes+Cunn +2019 1st + 2019 1st (Toronto)+ 2020 1st for Bradley Beal!

gospursgojas
02-06-2019, 08:00 PM
Lol everyone complains about Pau and Patty’s contract but wanted Otto Porter for 25+ mil a year.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:01 PM
Otto is making close to 30 mill per. Not only do the Spurs not even have close to that kind of cap room without trading multiple pieces, but they don't want a 30$mill/year role player.

But they want a G-Leaguer to be a starting guard simply because he's cheap? We need to take more risks.

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 08:01 PM
1093313538670522368

1093313755725905926

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 08:01 PM
1093313769894223872

1093314146576318464

Pavlov
02-06-2019, 08:02 PM
Lots of players are overpaid. Sometimes you have to take risks. This front office is NOT taking any risks for what is clearly a flawed team that needs a roster improvement.No, this guy is SUPER overpaid. Taking on that deal would just be stupid.

RD2191
02-06-2019, 08:03 PM
Lots of players are overpaid. Sometimes you have to take risks. This front office is NOT taking any risks for what is clearly a flawed team that needs a roster improvement.

My problem is if you're gonna go all in then go all in, don't half ass it you know. Why trade for DD if you're not even gonna try to go all in for a shot at the title. Should've just traded Kawhi to the Lakers if we weren't truly going to try to compete tbh

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 08:03 PM
The love of Otto Porter on this board is one of the stupider things you'll ever see from the Stupid Brigade.

RD2191
02-06-2019, 08:05 PM
The love of Otto Porter on this board is one of the stupider things you'll ever see from the Stupid Brigade.

No one loves Otto Porter, dipshit. The point is he's a solid player that's better than half the shit we're starting right now.

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 08:07 PM
No one loves Otto Porter, dipshit. The point is he's a solid player that's better than half the shit we're starting right now.

You morons are head over heels in love with the dude. It's embarrassing.

Pavlov
02-06-2019, 08:08 PM
No one loves Otto Porter, dipshit. The point is he's a solid player that's better than half the shit we're starting right now.:lmao getting paid more than LMA.

RD2191
02-06-2019, 08:09 PM
:lmao getting paid more than LMA.

LMA is also a scrub so...both overpaid imo tbh fwiw

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:12 PM
My problem is if you're gonna go all in then go all in, don't half ass it you know. Why trade for DD if you're not even gonna try to go all in for a shot at the title. Should've just traded Kawhi to the Lakers if we weren't truly going to try to compete tbh

I'm with you on this, tbh. So many people here are conditioned to think "X player is overpaid or super overpaid so that's a non-starter for us" yet we have Patty "50 Mills" on the roster. Enough with this cold feet attitude. Risk taking is necessary in this "Superteam" era of basketball where players dictate more than GMs.

Down Under
02-06-2019, 08:16 PM
All in - get Roco. Even if it's toronto pick, a 1st & Pau

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:17 PM
You morons are head over heels in love with the dude. It's embarrassing.

Better than accepting piece of shit scrubs like Forbes. Now THAT is fucking embarassing.

diceman
02-06-2019, 08:17 PM
Otto Porter Jr is overrated in my opinion. Jabari Parker is a risk because of his health, but could thrive in Washington. No winners in that trade IMO.

https://twitter.com/davidaldridgedc/status/1093310681716350976

Pavlov
02-06-2019, 08:18 PM
LMA is also a scrub so...both overpaid imo tbh fwiwSo you want to make it worse by getting a guy even more overpaid?:lmao

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 08:19 PM
1093317896942567427

diceman
02-06-2019, 08:19 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1093317896942567427

Here comes the Rockets with some trades...

RD2191
02-06-2019, 08:20 PM
So you want to make it worse by getting a guy even more overpaid?:lmao

Why not?! Lets just become the fucking Knicks gawd dammit:pctoss

diceman
02-06-2019, 08:21 PM
We knew the Crockets would not sit on the sidelines silently....

Leetonidas
02-06-2019, 08:21 PM
Lol rockets reloading with shumpert, stauskas, and wade Baldwin :lol

Man they really fuckin blew it last year

diceman
02-06-2019, 08:22 PM
Lol rockets reloading with shumpert, stauskas, and wade Baldwin :lol

Man they really fuckin blew it last year

Wonder if those guys will be part of a bigger trade??

Kobe'sAchilles
02-06-2019, 08:23 PM
I'm with you on this, tbh. So many people here are conditioned to think "X player is overpaid or super overpaid so that's a non-starter for us" yet we have Patty "50 Mills" on the roster. Enough with this cold feet attitude. Risk taking is necessary in this "Superteam" era of basketball where players dictate more than GMs.

There's risk and then there's stupidity and Porter is stupidity. Name 1 thing that he does elite? 3 point shot? Nope. Midrange game? nope. Getting to the free throw line? Nope. Defense? Nope. Rebounding? nope. The nicca is not even average in those categories. He's BELOW average on every single one of those things I mentioned. And you want us to pay him $26 million bc we need to take risks :lol

If I have to pay a scrub 3 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D or pay a scrub 26 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D then I'm choosing Forbes tbh. Prince is the one I guess to take a risk on since he's young and cheap, but I don't know his asking price is. I sure wouldn't trade Lonnie, Murray, White, or Bertans to get him.

RC_Drunkford
02-06-2019, 08:24 PM
Shumpert, Porter, Burks and Johnson already moved. I guess Spurs ain't trading for a defensive wing. Only ones left are Bazemore and Prince

Leetonidas
02-06-2019, 08:24 PM
There's risk and then there's stupidity and Porter is stupidity. Name 1 thing that he does elite? 3 point shot? Nope. Midrange game? nope. Getting to the free throw line? Nope. Defense? Nope. Rebounding? nope. The nicca is not even average in those categories. He's BELOW average on every single one of those things I mentioned. And you want us to pay him $26 million bc we need to take risks :lol

If I have to pay a scrub 3 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D or pay a scrub 26 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D then I'm choosing Forbes tbh. Prince is the one I guess to take a risk on since he's young and cheap, but I don't know his asking price is. I sure wouldn't trade Lonnie, Murray, White, or Bertans to get him.

:tu this man speaks the truth. Porter is an ok player but he doesn't move the needle and makes way too much money.

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 08:30 PM
Shumpert, Porter, Burks and Johnson already moved. I guess Spurs ain't trading for a defensive wing. Only ones left are Bazemore and Prince

Ariza, no?

Hoops Czar
02-06-2019, 08:30 PM
:tu this man speaks the truth. Porter is an ok player but he doesn't move the needle and makes way too much money.
If Washington can move Porter, the Spurs PATFO have no excuses for not being able to trade Gasol no matter how bad of a GM RC is.

Down Under
02-06-2019, 08:31 PM
There's risk and then there's stupidity and Porter is stupidity. Name 1 thing that he does elite? 3 point shot? Nope. Midrange game? nope. Getting to the free throw line? Nope. Defense? Nope. Rebounding? nope. The nicca is not even average in those categories. He's BELOW average on every single one of those things I mentioned. And you want us to pay him $26 million bc we need to take risks :lol

If I have to pay a scrub 3 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D or pay a scrub 26 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D then I'm choosing Forbes tbh. Prince is the one I guess to take a risk on since he's young and cheap, but I don't know his asking price is. I sure wouldn't trade Lonnie, Murray, White, or Bertans to get him.
Porter has shown to be an above average 3 point shooter & most years he's been above average defensively, although it's understandable he'd lose motivation playing for the Wizards. He's obviously overpaid, but his contract would've married up in length with DDR & LMA. ROCO would be a better fit, as he's a good shooter & elite defender on a better contract. I'd probably trade two 1sts & Pau for Roco & Tolliver.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:32 PM
There's risk and then there's stupidity and Porter is stupidity. Name 1 thing that he does elite? 3 point shot? Nope. Midrange game? nope. Getting to the free throw line? Nope. Defense? Nope. Rebounding? nope. The nicca is not even average in those categories. He's BELOW average on every single one of those things I mentioned. And you want us to pay him $26 million bc we need to take risks :lol

If I have to pay a scrub 3 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D or pay a scrub 26 million a year to be worthless and get torched on D then I'm choosing Forbes tbh. Prince is the one I guess to take a risk on since he's young and cheap, but I don't know his asking price is. I sure wouldn't trade Lonnie, Murray, White, or Bertans to get him.

See, THAT is the mentality that gets me. We seriously overrate our own players. I understand the need to keep Murray but Lonnie, White, or Bertans aren't these untouchable Gods. We need to stop doing that about our players.

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 08:32 PM
If Washington can move Porter, the Spurs PATFO have no excuses for not being able to trade Gasol no matter how bad of a GM RC is.

are you seriously comparing the utility of Porter vs old man Gasol in today's NBA? :lol

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 08:33 PM
See, THAT is the mentality that gets me. We seriously overrate our own players. I understand the need to keep Murray but Lonnie, White, or Bertans aren't these untouchable Gods. We need to stop doing that about our players.

but he's right. trading our good players on solid deals for overpaid scrubs who may not even be an upgrade is fucking stupid, and exactly how you end up as treadmill team fighting for the 7th seed every season

TD 21
02-06-2019, 08:34 PM
Porter makes sense for the Bulls, the same way he would have for the Kings. Neither had a legit SF and neither will be able to attract anything approacing a star in free agency anytime soon. Might as well add him if all it costs is a player they were desperate to rid themselves of, another who wasn't a great fit and was due to get paid and some far off 2nd.

Poor trade for the Wizards. Sure, it helps their bottom line significantly and he was always going to be half salary dump, but their roster now makes no sense. They should look to sell off Morris and Green. Ariza too, but given that they've lost Porter and Oubre recently, they probably feel like they need to retain him.

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 08:35 PM
See, THAT is the mentality that gets me. We seriously overrate our own players. I understand the need to keep Murray but Lonnie, White, or Bertans aren't these untouchable Gods. We need to stop doing that about our players.

Lol, White is better than Murray.

Porter would destroy the capability of this team to make any substantive changes at all. I almost wanted us to pick him up just to see you clowns bitch about how much he costs a year from now.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:35 PM
but he's right. trading our good players on solid deals for overpaid scrubs who may not even be an upgrade is fucking stupid, and exactly how you end up as treadmill team fighting for the 7th seed every season

If we're lucky, we'll be a 7th seed for back to back seasons with the scrubs we have now.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:36 PM
Lol, White is better than Murray.

Porter would destroy the capability of this team to make any substantive changes at all. I almost wanted us to pick him up just to see you clowns bitch about how much he costs a year from now.

White isn't better than Murray. TF you talking about? Murray is an all-defense player. White isn't in that discussion. He just looks like Bowen now compared to Forbes' traffic cone defense.

Pavlov
02-06-2019, 08:36 PM
are you seriously comparing the utility of Porter vs old man Gasol in today's NBA? :lolRight? Gasol is the Jabari Parker of this trade owed another $6 million next season.

marinoman
02-06-2019, 08:37 PM
Rockets got better, Portland got better...spurs same

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 08:39 PM
Houston cares nothing for first round picks. It’s incredible. They have no real youth and keep blowing picks every year it seems like on trades.

I get it, they are in cap hell and getting rid of Knights 15M next year saves them from taxes, but damn.

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 08:39 PM
White isn't better than Murray. TF you talking about? Murray is an all-defense player. White isn't in that discussion. He just looks like Bowen now compared to Forbes' traffic cone defense.

White is by far a better all-around player.

Dverde
02-06-2019, 08:39 PM
Rockets got better, Portland got better...spurs same

Spurs will get better when we draft two players that twenty other teams did not want. Vengeance is coming.

tbdog
02-06-2019, 08:40 PM
Wanted Harris in favor of DeRozan back in the off-season. The Spurs rely heavily on three-point shooting to win games. Harris was adequate in that regard. DeRozan’s play-making has been fantastic but I don’t know how he and Murray fit together moving forward; one of them has to learn to shoot threes and there isn’t any tangible proof Murray is skilled enough to shoot from distance.

DD is better than Harris and has been for his career. You are comparing an injured DD playing one of his worst seasons compared to a healthy Harris playing his best season. One of them is on an expiring contract. DD would be much better of the next two seasons as he plays for his last contract.

sasaint
02-06-2019, 08:40 PM
If Washington can move Porter, the Spurs PATFO have no excuses for not being able to trade Gasol no matter how bad of a GM RC is.

He's not a bad GM; he's a loyal GM. Besides he's only Pop's pawn.

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 08:40 PM
Right? Gasol is the Jabari Parker of this trade owed another $6 million next season.

Yup. Parker’s deal is more favorable due to the full team option. Not to mention, Portis is still solid prospect/player and will have a big role. He’s shown enough to be worth a good hard look.

So to make up for the 6.7M for Pau above Parker, Sa would have either had to give up a prospect better than Portis (which would suck) or more picks (which would suck)

Hoops Czar
02-06-2019, 08:41 PM
are you seriously comparing the utility of Porter vs old man Gasol in today's NBA? :lolI'm comparing his contract which is right up there with DDR as quite possibly the worst in the game.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:41 PM
Rockets got better, Portland got better...spurs same

But those players they have are overpaid and our players are cheap...and try hard! And Bertans, White and Lonnie will be perennial All-Stars that are better than everyone else! :cry

Maddog
02-06-2019, 08:43 PM
Rockets got better, Portland got better...spurs same

Rockets always get better at the trade deadline. It's one of the reasons why they keep winning titles

Kobe'sAchilles
02-06-2019, 08:44 PM
See, THAT is the mentality that gets me. We seriously overrate our own players. I understand the need to keep Murray but Lonnie, White, or Bertans aren't these untouchable Gods. We need to stop doing that about our players.

Bertans leads the league in 3 point percentage. Kinda important. White is our only defender and really the only person who can set up others to eat consistently. He runs the offense a lot better than Prince ever would. Lonnie is young and you don't trade a player based off his rookie year when he has shown flashes of everything you really want in an NBA player (long, quick first step, good shooter, creates his own shot). His fundamentals are lacking but that will be fixed. And I honestly don't think Atlanta would want Murray anyways as he's injured.

We aren't winning the ship this year. Golden St is. We actually have a good solid young core who can all grow together and maybe one of them will make a huge leap (White already did this year and Murray looked like he was going to). You're basically making the same argument that everybody made back in the day in trading Ginobili for a proven underachieving vet. We have an older roster that is ready to win now, Robinson is on his last legs, we need to do everything we can to win now. Enjoy this season and trust the process so to speak. Our future is bright.

Clipper Nation
02-06-2019, 08:46 PM
Houston cares nothing for first round picks. It’s incredible. They have no real youth and keep blowing picks every year it seems like on trades.

I get it, they are in cap hell and getting rid of Knights 15M next year saves them from taxes, but damn.

Reminds me of GM Doc's approach to roster moves. If it was anyone other than Media's golden boy Morey, they'd be getting ridiculed right now.

r0drig0lac
02-06-2019, 08:47 PM
Rockets always get better at the trade deadline. It's one of the reasons why they keep winning titles

only the warriors have been "winning titles", Spurs are in the same situation as 28 teams: praying for Durant to get bored and leave golden state

Kobe'sAchilles
02-06-2019, 08:50 PM
Porter has shown to be an above average 3 point shooter & most years he's been above average defensively, although it's understandable he'd lose motivation playing for the Wizards. He's obviously overpaid, but his contract would've married up in length with DDR & LMA. ROCO would be a better fit, as he's a good shooter & elite defender on a better contract. I'd probably trade two 1sts & Pau for Roco & Tolliver.

Dude stopped caring after he got paid. Not bc he plays in Washington. He didn't put in the time or the effort to improve in the offseason after he got his big contract. Not the kind of player I want

Covington is a weird case. He is long and athletic and shoots the ball well. But in the playoffs he turns into Ryan Anderson on a red court. The dude is just scared to play playoff bball. And he's like the 4th option on a team. He's not even asked to do more than hit open shots. He's like Roger Mason Jr in that regard. Great all regular season but for some reason he has performance issues in the playoffs. And the kind of blue pill Pop carries around won't fix what Covingtons got.

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 08:51 PM
Reminds me of GM Doc's approach to roster moves. If it was anyone other than Media's golden boy Morey, they'd be getting ridiculed right now.

I mean, HOU has been very competitive for years now, so it’s hard to fault him too hard, but still..

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 08:52 PM
White is by far a better all-around player.

Wrong. And consider the sample size along with the ceiling, of which every analyst believes Murray's is higher.

Murray:



Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


2016-17 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/murrade01/gamelog/2017/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
20
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PG
38
322
9.6
.503
.198
.259
2.2
12.4
7.4
22.6
1.3
1.5
22.7
23.5

-0.4
0.5
0.0
.004

-4.6
-0.2
-4.8
-0.2


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/murrade01/gamelog/2018/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
21
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PG
81
1743
15.1
.485
.056
.243
7.0
22.4
14.6
20.2
2.8
1.5
16.6
20.7

-0.2
3.4
3.2
.087

-2.2
3.4
1.2
1.4


Career


NBA

119
2065
14.2
.488
.079
.246
6.2
20.8
13.5
20.6
2.6
1.5
17.6
21.1

-0.6
3.8
3.2
.074

-2.6
2.9
0.3
1.2





White:



Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2018/)
23
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html)
PG
17
139
15.9
.646
.394
.606
4.0
16.9
10.4
9.3
1.5
1.8
12.6
15.4

0.3
0.2
0.5
.170

0.0
0.5
0.5
0.1


2018-19 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2019/)
24
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2019.html)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019.html)
PG
45
1138
14.6
.580
.260
.260
2.1
12.6
7.4
19.6
1.9
1.7
15.3
16.9

1.4
1.1
2.5
.105

0.2
0.6
0.8
0.8


Career


NBA

62
1277
14.8
.587
.272
.292
2.3
13.1
7.8
18.5
1.9
1.7
15.0
16.8

1.7
1.3
3.0
.112

0.2
0.6
0.8
0.9

Degoat
02-06-2019, 08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/bonnermvp_/status/1093324920539541504

WHAT!? Is that real?

marinoman
02-06-2019, 08:58 PM
Rockets always get better at the trade deadline. It's one of the reasons why they keep winning titles

If harden was harden of the regular season they would’ve beat gsw, same if Paul was healthy. I’d rather make the west finals and be competitive then know our ceiling is rd 2 with rd 1 exit being more likely outcome

marinoman
02-06-2019, 09:03 PM
aside from philly acquiring Harris and NY retardedly shipping out Porzingis 1 hour after he said he was unhappy, what other teams are wheeling and dealing? :lol stanley johnson for thon maker? ellington and johnson for ryan anderson? that guy from toronto (forgot his name) for cash? :lmao yall just wanna see a trade for the sake of it happening
This post is aging well

RC_Drunkford
02-06-2019, 09:04 PM
WHAT!? Is that real?

That's exactly what I thought Denver should be doing. Although I wasn't sure Memphis was gonna send him there, but that is the right move for the Nuggets

ace3g
02-06-2019, 09:05 PM
WHAT!? Is that real?

No, it showed up on my twitter feed - it was a retweet but when it shows up on your feed it has Shams name/photo, when you click into the tweet, it changes back to Bonner MVP... lol

Leetonidas
02-06-2019, 09:07 PM
Jesus christ the amount of emo bitching that we didn't minorly improve our average team by trading young players on cheap deals for overpaid role players is ridiculous :lol

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 09:09 PM
This post is aging well
considering it was true at the time I said it, i dont see the problem tbh.

:cry other teams are wheeling and dealing :cry
:cry spurs must not be doing anything :cry
:cry trade deadline is tomorrow and trade hasnt happened so it definitely wont :cry

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 09:11 PM
besides, the spurs literally never do anything every single year yet somehow most of you expect them to make a blockbuster deal :lol ST constantly shits on the players we have yet expects them to be traded for rotation guys

ace3g
02-06-2019, 09:12 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 09:13 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184

"If he dies, he dies."

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 09:14 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184

:lol y'all gonna get your wish about Pau, just wait

marinoman
02-06-2019, 09:15 PM
besides, the spurs literally never do anything every single year yet somehow most of you expect them to make a blockbuster deal :lol ST constantly shits on the players we have yet expects them to be traded for rotation guys
Nah I’m not stupid I never expect them too, just hope

JPB
02-06-2019, 09:17 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184

Smoke screen

Clipper Nation
02-06-2019, 09:17 PM
I mean, HOU has been very competitive for years now, so it’s hard to fault him too hard, but still..

The Clippers were "very competitive for years" with GM Doc too. Doesn't change the fact that trading first-round draft picks for marginal players is never a good idea.

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 09:17 PM
:lol Laker fans salty as fuck over that quote from Pop

TDMVPDPOY
02-06-2019, 09:19 PM
Wrong. And consider the sample size along with the ceiling, of which every analyst believes Murray's is higher.

Murray:



Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


2016-17 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/murrade01/gamelog/2017/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
20
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PG
38
322
9.6
.503
.198
.259
2.2
12.4
7.4
22.6
1.3
1.5
22.7
23.5

-0.4
0.5
0.0
.004

-4.6
-0.2
-4.8
-0.2


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/murrade01/gamelog/2018/?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
21
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool)
PG
81
1743
15.1
.485
.056
.243
7.0
22.4
14.6
20.2
2.8
1.5
16.6
20.7

-0.2
3.4
3.2
.087

-2.2
3.4
1.2
1.4


Career


NBA

119
2065
14.2
.488
.079
.246
6.2
20.8
13.5
20.6
2.6
1.5
17.6
21.1

-0.6
3.8
3.2
.074

-2.6
2.9
0.3
1.2





White:



Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%

OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48

OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP


2017-18 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2018/)
23
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2018.html)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018.html)
PG
17
139
15.9
.646
.394
.606
4.0
16.9
10.4
9.3
1.5
1.8
12.6
15.4

0.3
0.2
0.5
.170

0.0
0.5
0.5
0.1


2018-19 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2019/)
24
SAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2019.html)
NBA (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2019.html)
PG
45
1138
14.6
.580
.260
.260
2.1
12.6
7.4
19.6
1.9
1.7
15.3
16.9

1.4
1.1
2.5
.105

0.2
0.6
0.8
0.8


Career


NBA

62
1277
14.8
.587
.272
.292
2.3
13.1
7.8
18.5
1.9
1.7
15.0
16.8

1.7
1.3
3.0
.112

0.2
0.6
0.8
0.9



murray hasnt proven shit, his expendable

white might be injury prone, but his proven that he can run the point and look for others...

murray better improve his jumpshot and play sf/sg. or he finds himself starting from t he bench or on another team...

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 09:19 PM
The Clippers were "very competitive for years" with GM Doc too. Doesn't change the fact that trading first-round draft picks for marginal players is never a good idea.

congrats on getting Kawhi and Durant in the summer

RD2191
02-06-2019, 09:23 PM
:lol Laker fans salty as fuck over that quote from Pop

Fukin meltdown tbh :lol

objective
02-06-2019, 09:29 PM
People dismissing Porter don't have any alternative for how the roster would improve in time to win in the LMA-DDR-Pop window.

Overpaid, overrated, but Porter would have fit the timeline and made the team better.

Mr. Body
02-06-2019, 09:31 PM
People dismissing Porter don't have any alternative for how the roster would improve in time to win in the LMA-DDR-Pop window.

Overpaid, overrated, but Porter would have fit the timeline and made the team better.

He's incredibly mediocre. He'd strangle any attempts at further improvements for a long time. It was never going to happen.

Pavlov
02-06-2019, 09:31 PM
People dismissing Porter don't have any alternative for how the roster would improve in time to win in the LMA-DDR-Pop window.

Overpaid, overrated, but Porter would have fit the timeline and made the team better.What was your Porter trade?

GreekSpursfan
02-06-2019, 09:34 PM
Rockets got better, Portland got better...spurs same

They got better to go where? Houston is all about C.Paul, if he's injured all the time or not the same player they are done, Portland is the definition of treadmill team.
Outside of getting rid of Gasol we can't do much else except get someone from the buyouts. We'd better not squander picks for minor upgrades pls.

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 09:36 PM
People dismissing Porter don't have any alternative for how the roster would improve in time to win in the LMA-DDR-Pop window.

Overpaid, overrated, but Porter would have fit the timeline and made the team better.

The fact that any of you think there is a conceivable trade the Spurs could make to contend with the top tier teams in league with LMA/DD as our best players is mind boggling...this roster ain't doing shit against the likes of GS. Spurs are better off maintaining flexibility. Trading for Derozan to begin with has turned out pretty bad, it would be dumb to set us back even further. Spurs should be looking to trade DD more than anyone else next to Gasol imo

Strategic
02-06-2019, 09:36 PM
murray better improve his jumpshot and play sf/sg. or he finds himself starting from the bench or on another team...Some dirty low down!

sasaint
02-06-2019, 09:39 PM
The fact that any of you think there is a conceivable trade the Spurs could make to contend with the top tier teams in league with LMA/DD as our best players is mind boggling...this roster ain't doing shit against the likes of GS. Spurs are better off maintaining flexibility. Trading for Derozan to begin with has turned out pretty bad, it would be dumb to set us back even further. Spurs should be looking to trade DD more than anyone else next to Gasol imo

The Voice of Reason. :tu

TimDunkem
02-06-2019, 09:41 PM
^Pretty much. Spurs have no assets. The best we can hope for is a Gasol dump and, even if they did have assets to swing a move, you're not winning shit with DD/LMA. Spurs are in NBA purgatory.

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 09:42 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

DAF86
02-06-2019, 09:42 PM
The fact that any of you think there is a conceivable trade the Spurs could make to contend with the top tier teams in league with LMA/DD as our best players is mind boggling...this roster ain't doing shit against the likes of GS. Spurs are better off maintaining flexibility. Trading for Derozan to begin with has turned out pretty bad, it would be dumb to set us back even further. Spurs should be looking to trade DD more than anyone else next to Gasol imo

100% agree, but I know that won't happen unfortunately, so the best next thing is trying to be as good as possible with our two flawed offensive options.

look_at_g_shred
02-06-2019, 09:44 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736
Slow clap gif..

marinoman
02-06-2019, 09:45 PM
They got better to go where? Houston is all about C.Paul, if he's injured all the time or not the same player they are done, Portland is the definition of treadmill team.Outside of getting rid of Gasol we can't do much else except get someone from the buyouts. We'd better not squander picks for minor upgrades pls.As I’ve said I think being the 2nd best team is up for grabs. I could see a handful of teams playing gsw in the west finals. I don’t think the spurs are too far from Denver, Houston etc

Clipper Nation
02-06-2019, 09:46 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

:lmao How the fuck do you get played this badly by Dell Demps? Magic is in the discussion for worst GM of all time.

GreekSpursfan
02-06-2019, 09:47 PM
The fact that any of you think there is a conceivable trade the Spurs could make to contend with the top tier teams in league with LMA/DD as our best players is mind boggling...this roster ain't doing shit against the likes of GS. Spurs are better off maintaining flexibility. Trading for Derozan to begin with has turned out pretty bad, it would be dumb to set us back even further. Spurs should be looking to trade DD more than anyone else next to Gasol imo

100% agree, even though i don't see anyone wanting to get DD from us. I'm pretty sure Toronto was the only team that was willing to give us a pick in addition to the players in the Kawhi trade thats why we did business with them. In other words we had to do it.

Seventyniner
02-06-2019, 09:49 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

Demps giving Magic that Pop-demanded middle finger.

objective
02-06-2019, 09:49 PM
The fact that any of you think there is a conceivable trade the Spurs could make to contend with the top tier teams in league with LMA/DD as our best players is mind boggling...this roster ain't doing shit against the likes of GS. Spurs are better off maintaining flexibility. Trading for Derozan to begin with has turned out pretty bad, it would be dumb to set us back even further. Spurs should be looking to trade DD more than anyone else next to Gasol imo

It wasn't about competing this year, it was about next year when the league will be in disarray with so much movement that they'd have a chance. Not a great chance, but a chance in what would probably be Pop's last year.

GS will lose Durant and Cousins with another year on iguodala. Lakers are no guarantees to get enough around aging LeBron. Raptors could fall apart, Celtics' could split, etc. Chris Paul aging and Harden beginning to burn out.

They'd have a shot.

Waiving Pau and adding a couple of first round picks to Austin so they can get over themselves won't help the Spurs.

Dverde
02-06-2019, 09:51 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

So it is now reporting to report on fanboy reporters who work for the same sports network.

RD2191
02-06-2019, 09:52 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

They're fucking salty right now :lmao

Degoat
02-06-2019, 09:53 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184

hope I’m wrong but I think that confirms we’re doing nothing lol

diceman
02-06-2019, 09:54 PM
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1093341423674503174

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1093341981022015488

GreekSpursfan
02-06-2019, 09:57 PM
As I’ve said I think being the 2nd best team is up for grabs. I could see a handful of teams playing gsw in the west finals. I don’t think the spurs are too far from Denver, Houston etc

Denver is very deep, we continue to underestimate them but back to the point, i don't think our goal should be to finish second and then get stomped by GS. We need to gather assets but we don't have a 26 year old Tobias Harris to do it now. Pop has to retire and we need to tank for at least 2 seasons i'm afraid.

GreekSpursfan
02-06-2019, 10:00 PM
:rollin

1093335045459316736

At least Pop did his job here, fuck the Lakers tbh.

MoSpur02
02-06-2019, 10:01 PM
Really don't understand the Otto Porter Jr love in this forum. He's a solid player and would probably be a good fit on this Spurs team, but this guy is nowhere near worth near what he's getting paid. He's never averaged more than 15 points per game and is getting paid $26 million this year and $27 million next. C'mon. That's nuts. If he would have been traded here this forum would explode the first night he would've went 1-7 from three point land.

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 10:04 PM
the amount of butthurt Laker fans on that twitter thread is epic :lol

Spurs fever
02-06-2019, 10:08 PM
I'll rejoice if the Lakers don't get shit.

RD2191
02-06-2019, 10:08 PM
the amount of butthurt Laker fans on that twitter thread is epic :lol

It's glorious tbh

Russ
02-06-2019, 10:10 PM
:lmao How the fuck do you get played this badly by Dell Demps? Magic is in the discussion for worst GM of all time.

Better yet, the Lakers turned down Jerry West's return in order to hire Magic Johnson. :lol

acoelho1
02-06-2019, 10:11 PM
One thing I love about the Spurs is their patience and they don't panic and make shitty deals. I live in Wash DC and Porter is completely overrated. If he played for the Spurs, give it a month and 80% of you would be talking about what a terrible trade it was to pick him up. Nevertheless, I still think we will make a deal before the deadline to improve our defense versatility but it will be for someone who has a much more manageable deal.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 10:11 PM
^Pretty much. Spurs have no assets. The best we can hope for is a Gasol dump and, even if they did have assets to swing a move, you're not winning shit with DD/LMA. Spurs are in NBA purgatory.

People are talking about having no assets. Do any of you see the shit teams are dumping off to others as they improve their roster. And hello...we have 2 first round picks???

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 10:14 PM
One thing I love about the Spurs is their patience and they don't panic and make shitty deals. I live in Wash DC and Porter is completely overrated. If he played for the Spurs, give it a month and 80% of you would be talking about what a terrible trade it was to pick him up. Nevertheless, I still think we will make a deal before the deadline to improve our defense versatility but it will be for someone who has a much more manageable deal.

Does Forbes have a brother who's a 12th man on some team?

Down Under
02-06-2019, 10:14 PM
It's glorious tbh
It's all time. Both superstars & the organisation plot to get AD to LA & they get played. Everyone's against us :cry

MoSpur02
02-06-2019, 10:16 PM
Mavericks just acquired Justin Jackson from the Kings in exchange for Harrison Barnes

ace3g
02-06-2019, 10:16 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1093347451266834432

Ron Swanson
02-06-2019, 10:16 PM
1093347451266834432

Clipper Nation
02-06-2019, 10:17 PM
1093347451266834432
I forgot ZBo was still in the league.

Russ
02-06-2019, 10:17 PM
People are talking about having no assets. Do any of you see the shit teams are dumping off to others as they improve their roster. And hello...we have 2 first round picks???

The Spurs have a top 5-8 in the league (at least) future over the next five years.

Degoat
02-06-2019, 10:18 PM
He kinda sucked for the mavs but I think Barnes will be pretty good on the kings

Ron Swanson
02-06-2019, 10:18 PM
Nice salary dump for the Mavs. Barnes has a player option for $25 million next season.

Holden_Caulfield
02-06-2019, 10:18 PM
teams trading bad contracts left and right and we are still stuck with gasol

objective
02-06-2019, 10:19 PM
Really don't understand the Otto Porter Jr love in this forum. He's a solid player and would probably be a good fit on this Spurs team, but this guy is nowhere near worth near what he's getting paid. He's never averaged more than 15 points per game and is getting paid $26 million this year and $27 million next. C'mon. That's nuts. If he would have been traded here this forum would explode the first night he would've went 1-7 from three point land.

It ain't love, and his contract is up in 2 seasons. LMA is only fully guaranteed for 1 more season. DDR can opt in for 2 years. Bertans is up after next year. Forbes is up after next year. Poeltl and Murray will be restricted after next year without extensions.

It's basically a 1-2 year window.

If the Spurs somehow trade for Anthony Davis or move for Covington or get Prince or anything, then I get it.

What I don't get is letting Pau just get waived and just picking 18-22 and 27-30 and hoping. Hoping isn't enough.

emanueldavidginobili
02-06-2019, 10:20 PM
Thought Harrison Barnes was older for some reason, only 26

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 10:23 PM
The Spurs have a top 5-8 in the league (at least) future over the next five years.

You do realize LMA is going to be 34 soon and DeMar isn't 22, right?

emanueldavidginobili
02-06-2019, 10:30 PM
Barnes is playing right now too hilarious lol

Joseph Kony
02-06-2019, 10:30 PM
Lol at Barnes getting traded as he's playing a game for Dallas :lmao

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 10:31 PM
1093351258381930496

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 10:32 PM
Seems like a common theme for teams playing one another tonight trading with each other. We might get KD for Gasol.

emanueldavidginobili
02-06-2019, 10:39 PM
Mavs opening up a bunch of cap space with this trade.

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 10:39 PM
I cannot fathom how Dallas didn’t have to give SAC a pick? On top of that, they gave up a prospect like JJ?

What??

Barnes has not been very good, has a full player option on a lot of money for next season and you allowed Dallas to open up nearly 20M in extra space (Zbo has no money next year and JJ 3M vs Barnes 25M). Unreal.

cool cat
02-06-2019, 10:41 PM
Seems like a common theme for teams playing one another tonight trading with each other. We might get KD for Gasol.

Or Draymond :vomit:

MoSpur02
02-06-2019, 10:46 PM
Spurs need to look into trading for Julius Randle

sasaint
02-06-2019, 10:54 PM
Spurs need to look into trading for Julius Randle

Dude, Pop has already gone to bed.

emanueldavidginobili
02-06-2019, 10:54 PM
Spurs need to look into trading for Julius Randle
What can we possible give for him that the Pelicans would want. I would love him though Randle can hoop and is tough as nails.

FireMicoHalili
02-06-2019, 10:56 PM
Not sure who else is left for the Spurs as trading partners given the volume of deals today. Lots of bad contracts already got tossed around.

baseline bum
02-06-2019, 11:05 PM
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1093341423674503174

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1093341981022015488

New Orleans needs to shut him down for the tank job and for fucking them over publicly. Bullshit on letting him ever put on the uniform again.

Dverde
02-06-2019, 11:06 PM
Spurs need to look into trading for Julius Randle

Pelicans want to sign him long term. They are shopping Mirotic...

Texas_Ranger
02-06-2019, 11:08 PM
the league needs some rules for this quitters. Fucking players can do whatever they want.

Russ
02-06-2019, 11:10 PM
You do realize LMA is going to be 34 soon and DeMar isn't 22, right?

Bertans, White, Murray, Forbes, Poeltl, Walker, two 2019 First Round Picks . . .

ace3g
02-06-2019, 11:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1093361595709825024

Leetonidas
02-06-2019, 11:12 PM
I cannot fathom how Dallas didn’t have to give SAC a pick? On top of that, they gave up a prospect like JJ?

What??

Barnes has not been very good, has a full player option on a lot of money for next season and you allowed Dallas to open up nearly 20M in extra space (Zbo has no money next year and JJ 3M vs Barnes 25M). Unreal.

Yep. As promising as they look now you just know their inept front office is going to ruin it

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Wiz blowing it up?

Jay.From.NbTx
02-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Meanwhile RC is at some bar 5 beers in tbh

Kobe'sAchilles
02-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Dallas is really impressing me this year. They did everything that I said they should so of course their future is bright :lol
But seriously I thought they should get rid of DSJ, Barnes, and DJ and surround Luka with shooting. And they did exactly that with signing KP. Now they got JJ while giving up zero picks. Quite impressive after years of being the worst GM on the league, Cuban suddenly became a good one.

TimDunkem
02-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Meanwhile RC is at some bar 5 beers in tbh

Contemplating how much he's going to give to Pau once his contract is up so he can retire a Spur.

SpurPadre
02-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Bertans, White, Murray, Forbes, Poeltl, Walker, two 2019 First Round Picks . . .

OMG...just hand us those Larry O'Briens for the next 5 years!!!!

ace3g
02-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) now (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1093363336480198658)
Wesley Johnson is heading to Washington for Markeff Morris.

NASpurs
02-06-2019, 11:19 PM
1093363509935648768

HarlemHeat37
02-06-2019, 11:21 PM
Damn, Wizards did that so quickly:lol

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 11:21 PM
Wiz blowing it up?

If they dont trade Beal then I would not say blowing it up. But getting under the tax is the goal.

cool cat
02-06-2019, 11:23 PM
If they dont trade Beal then I would not say blowing it up. But getting under the tax is the goal.

Can or should we try to get Beal?

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 11:23 PM
Damn, Wizards did that so quickly:lol


Didn’t really blow anything up but managed to sell off devalued pieces and avoid the tax without giving up any major picks of note. Pretty good job.

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 11:23 PM
Can or should we try to get Beal?


Sure - don’t see how though.

marinoman
02-06-2019, 11:25 PM
Can or should we try to get Beal?
For sure but no chance it happens

HarlemHeat37
02-06-2019, 11:28 PM
Didn’t really blow anything up but managed to sell off devalued pieces and avoid the tax without giving up any major picks of note. Pretty good job.

I don't think they could have done a proper blow-up, anyways..neither Porter nor Morris are good enough to attract strong assets..

Maybe Beal can, but I'd be surprised if it's anything franchise-altering..

Degoat
02-06-2019, 11:29 PM
Beal could be had I think but the spurs are wusses, don’t wanna hurt anybody’s feelings

MoSpur02
02-06-2019, 11:35 PM
Spurs need to send Gasol and Pointdexter to the Hawks for Bazemore. Then send Bertans and Cunningham to the Pelicans for Randle and call it a night.

HarlemHeat37
02-06-2019, 11:40 PM
^^This isn't 2k:lol

Spurs rarely even make one move, let's not get greedy..

John B
02-06-2019, 11:45 PM
Spurs are staying pat. In the meantime Spurs starting lineup Mills, Belli, Bertran, Gay and Poeltl against Dubs :bang

DPG21920
02-06-2019, 11:45 PM
Spurs need to send Gasol and Pointdexter to the Hawks for Bazemore. Then send Bertans and Cunningham to the Pelicans for Randle and call it a night.

I wouldn’t really want Baze, but not a bad deal.

I think SA should call Washington and offer up Mills + 1st for Ariza. Helps SA this year, and clears Mills from the books opening up time for Lonnie/White/Murray next season.

Washington is so far under the tax next season now and they need draft assets + they aren’t going to be able to attract any free agents anyways so at least Mills will play good soldier and not create issues.

gambit1990
02-06-2019, 11:45 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1093330655289565184
:rolleyes

Dverde
02-06-2019, 11:49 PM
I wouldn’t really want Baze, but not a bad deal.

I think SA should call Washington and offer up Mills + 1st for Ariza. Helps SA this year, and clears Mills from the books opening up time for Lonnie/White/Murray next season.

Washington is so far under the tax next season now and they need draft assets + they aren’t going to be able to attract any free agents anyways so at least Mills will play good soldier and not create issues.

Absolutely no way they are trading Patty Mills mid-season.

ace3g
02-06-2019, 11:58 PM
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1093372410265567233

Chillen
02-07-2019, 12:08 AM
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1093372410265567233

I wonder why Golden State hasn't made a trade yet, hmmm, might have something to do with having 5 all-stars as your starting 5, lol. Having an advantage on any team you play in the NBA.

Play Boban
02-07-2019, 12:10 AM
We need to trade away Lonnie. I’d trade him for a second round pick tbh.

Dverde
02-07-2019, 12:13 AM
I wonder why Golden State hasn't made a trade yet, hmmm, might have something to do with having 5 all-stars as your starting 5, lol. Having an advantage on any team you play in the NBA.

Never stopped them before. They really need to improve their bench :corn:

SpurPadre
02-07-2019, 12:19 AM
Never stopped them before. They really need to improve their bench :corn:

Watch them end up with Anthony Davis and send Cousins to the bench, tbh.

FireMicoHalili
02-07-2019, 12:23 AM
Never stopped them before. They really need to improve their bench :corn:
They’ll be feasting at the buyout market.

Dverde
02-07-2019, 12:27 AM
Just think if Steve Kerr took that Knicks job, he’d be back on TV calling games with Marv. Instead he is going into the HOF for coaching.

Degoat
02-07-2019, 12:27 AM
GSW will get whoever they want in the buy out market

Hoops Czar
02-07-2019, 12:50 AM
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1093372410265567233
"Spurs have adequate depth. They don't need to make a trade." Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)

ceperez
02-07-2019, 12:55 AM
These Spurs bench players.... Cunningham, Pondexter, Metu, Walker are completely worthless. I don't even know why they are on the team.

Hoops Czar
02-07-2019, 12:58 AM
.

Duncan87
02-07-2019, 01:05 AM
Pau gone yet

Dverde
02-07-2019, 01:06 AM
Maybe we Metu a mistake signing him long term.

Atl Spur
02-07-2019, 01:11 AM
The youngsters will be fine........growing pains��

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-07-2019, 02:11 AM
Impressed with Washington's work for a change. Strange that Barnes was the best Sacramento could get with their cap space, they must have liked him a lot, which I don't get.

Duncan87
02-07-2019, 02:11 AM
Yeah pretty much Pop confirmed Spurs are doing nothing according to Tom Osborne. Sucks

Chinook
02-07-2019, 02:31 AM
"Spurs have adequate depth. They don't need to make a trade." Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)

You gonna keep misusing that quote? I guess I should be flattered.

r0drig0lac
02-07-2019, 04:47 AM
The Spurs have a top 5-8 in the league (at least) future over the next five years.

honestly, this opinion has no basis (see the Mavs who made several wrong moves, and now they have a potential super team forming for the future), it is only a hope, and in the era that the stars are cowardly joining this may mean absolutely nothing, because the scenario can change from a super duper team dominating everything to three or four super teams ( which seems to be the future in the league), making the "having a future" useless in the general point of view

tbdog
02-07-2019, 05:02 AM
Maybe we Metu a mistake signing him long term.

He got like a 600k contract.

tbdog
02-07-2019, 05:08 AM
honestly, this opinion has no basis (see the Mavs who made several wrong moves, and now they have a potential super team forming for the future), it is only a hope, and in the era that the stars are cowardly joining this may mean absolutely nothing, because the scenario can change from a super duper team dominating everything to three or four super teams ( which seems to be the future in the league), making the "having a future" useless in the general point of view

I don't see super teams being sustainable. Heat had to get rid of key role players to stop paying tax. Warriors tax bill is about to get even more extreme, even if they lose Cousins and Durant. They just had the stars align incredibly for them to achieve what they are doing.

Rockets tax bill is massive too, and they going all in for a title this year or next.
Harris could walk from Sixers. It will be interesting if Sixers are going to offer him. They gave up two 1st to have his bird rights. Goes to show they are confident to spend. Also, Simmons is on a rookie deal still. Heck Butler could walk as well.

Super teams usually don't happen, and when they do, the stars are old. Heat and Warriors are really an exception to the rule.

Ignazzz
02-07-2019, 05:37 AM
Metu is great cheap contract.

jiggy_55
02-07-2019, 06:09 AM
Why aren't we looking to acquire Marc Gasol? He can fit in with LMA and Derozan from a timeline/age perspective. Memphis probably want an expiring plus pick, give them Pau + Toronto's pick. We aren't gonna get better any other way, and his contract expires in 2020, while Derozan and LMA expire in 2021.

Ignazzz
02-07-2019, 06:17 AM
Massive tax next year?
And no Gay?

vavvi
02-07-2019, 06:21 AM
Why aren't we looking to acquire Marc Gasol? He can fit in with LMA and Derozan from a timeline/age perspective. Memphis probably want an expiring plus pick, give them Pau + Toronto's pick. We aren't gonna get better any other way, and his contract expires in 2020, while Derozan and LMA expire in 2021.

Because we have a center named LMA

jiggy_55
02-07-2019, 06:26 AM
Because we have a center named LMA

They can start together, and then stagger their minutes as much as possible where one of them is always on the court as the C. Simply, you limit their shared time on the court, Poeltl isn't exactly lighting it up and Pau should not be playing a single minute anyway.

UnWantedTheory
02-07-2019, 06:30 AM
Why aren't we looking to acquire Marc Gasol? He can fit in with LMA and Derozan from a timeline/age perspective. Memphis probably want an expiring plus pick, give them Pau + Toronto's pick. We aren't gonna get better any other way, and his contract expires in 2020, while Derozan and LMA expire in 2021.
Because he really wouldn't make us that much better. Think defensively, instead of just an NBA name you have heard.

vavvi
02-07-2019, 07:43 AM
They can start together, and then stagger their minutes as much as possible where one of them is always on the court as the C. Simply, you limit their shared time on the court, Poeltl isn't exactly lighting it up and Pau should not be playing a single minute anyway.

It's just not wise to have 2 centers out of 3 highest-paid players in 2019. Think of the Pelicans trying AD-Boogie pairing, they became better after Boogie got hurt.
Every modern NBA offense will kill the team with 2 heavy centers.

cd021
02-07-2019, 07:50 AM
They can start together, and then stagger their minutes as much as possible where one of them is always on the court as the C. Simply, you limit their shared time on the court, Poeltl isn't exactly lighting it up and Pau should not be playing a single minute anyway.

No way I want Gasol tbh. Spurs have finally went away from the 2 big lineup. Gay and LMA, Bertans and Poeltl is about as good as a big rotation as any.

Also Aldridge would have to defend 4s meaning more time away from the rim and near the perimeter, making him less effective defensively. I don't think Marc would much better than the version of Pau from the first half of the season last year in the system and making significantly more.

dbestpro
02-07-2019, 07:56 AM
So i guess by standing pat that is the Spurs way of tanking.

Duncan87
02-07-2019, 08:15 AM
If they are things will heat around 10 11am. Then they’ll say we were close to acquiring something

FkLA
02-07-2019, 08:15 AM
All these wings being moved and the Spurs are just standing around with their dick in their hand.

:pctoss

John B
02-07-2019, 08:46 AM
Why aren't we looking to acquire Marc Gasol? He can fit in with LMA and Derozan from a timeline/age perspective. Memphis probably want an expiring plus pick, give them Pau + Toronto's pick. We aren't gonna get better any other way, and his contract expires in 2020, while Derozan and LMA expire in 2021.
Another slow big man. While he’s a massive improvement over his brother, still his game is antiquated in this new style of game. I wouldn’t waste my 1st pick on him. We need athleticism, big men who can roll on defense, chase and block, besides shooting higher percentage 3’s. Not Marc. Nope. I pass.

r0drig0lac
02-07-2019, 08:51 AM
Another slow big man. While he’s a massive improvement over his brother, still his game is antiquated in this new style of game. I wouldn’t waste my 1st pick on him. We need athleticism, big men who can roll on defense, chase and block, besides shooting higher percentage 3’s. Not Marc. Nope. I pass.

while I agree with that (since 2016), Pop does not seem to think this is necessary.

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 08:56 AM
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Twisted_Dawg
02-07-2019, 09:04 AM
All these wings being moved and the Spurs are just standing around with their dick in their hand.

:pctoss

And PATFO doesn't even have the common courtesy to give the fans a reach around.

Dverde
02-07-2019, 09:09 AM
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I can’t see the Spurs giving a pick for an expiring contract. I look forward to the failed free agency pursuit of him.

YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 09:17 AM
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Just name dropping the Spurs. 0% chance they do anything

Degoat
02-07-2019, 09:21 AM
Yeah Nikola mirotic is alright but we need a wing!!

ceperez
02-07-2019, 10:08 AM
Yeah Nikola mirotic is alright but we need a wing!!

Mirotic is one of the more talented European players. Under a system like the Spurs, he can thrive.

MoSpur02
02-07-2019, 10:09 AM
Supposedly the Lakers have re-engaged trade talks with the Pelicans.

YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 10:14 AM
Mirotic is one of the more talented European players. Under a system like the Spurs, he can thrive.

If we were to get him I would inser either mirotic or bertans into starting lineup. Most likely mirotic and move gay to the bench to play the 3.

white/Forbes/DD/mirotic/LMA
Mills/belli/Gay/Bertans/Poetl

TheGreatYacht
02-07-2019, 10:18 AM
PATFO fluffers getting all their quotes ready from 2015-2018 when Drunkford stood pat at the deadline :lmao

"I like what we have"
"Hey, at least RC tried. Didn't you see all those links to us?"
"Let's wait out to see who gets bought out"
"Joel Anthony is a champion, y'know"

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 10:21 AM
Just a matter of time

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exstatic
02-07-2019, 10:21 AM
If we were to get him I would inser either mirotic or bertans into starting lineup. Most likely mirotic and move gay to the bench to play the 3.

white/Forbes/DD/mirotic/LMA
Mills/belli/Gay/Bertans/Poetl

Gay can barely play the 3 any more. Bertans already doesn't get enough shots or minutes.

Blackhaus
02-07-2019, 10:27 AM
Isnt Mirotic a bit over kill. We already have a player very similar to him in Bertans and even he can’t get enough time on the court. Mirotic is stuck in between the 3 and 4. He’s not quite mobile enough to be able to run at the 3, we already see this problem with Gay and Bertans. Plus he’s a me first player, always looking for his shot first. Doesn’t fit in with Pops culture at all. Don’t get me wrong I would like to have him but not willing to give up any young pieces or 1rd picks at all.

Down Under
02-07-2019, 10:32 AM
FFS, get RoCo

YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 10:33 AM
Gay can barely play the 3 any more. Bertans already doesn't get enough shots or minutes.

Gay will play backup 3 so he isn’t playing starting caliber 3’s

TheGoatishere
02-07-2019, 10:37 AM
No trade will happen lol

Dverde
02-07-2019, 10:38 AM
No Spurs trade will happen lol

FIFY

Twisted_Dawg
02-07-2019, 10:45 AM
Supposedly the Lakers have re-engaged trade talks with the Pelicans.

How you know?

r0drig0lac
02-07-2019, 10:48 AM
FIFY

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/lobt2.gif

Dverde
02-07-2019, 10:52 AM
Pelican should get Lonzo then flip him to Suns for more draft picks.

sammy
02-07-2019, 11:48 AM
It's glorious tbh

I'm so enjoying this moment of those tampering mothersf******! NBA not doing anything to stop Magic/the Fakers from tampering with players with signed contracts (ex Leonard and now Davis) Those sons of bitches should lose draft picks for years and be fined! This has got to stop! To hell w/Lebroom crying and trying to get stars to play with the Fakers. Hey jackass, you shouldn't gone to a team with a bunch of scrubs!

loveforthegame
02-07-2019, 12:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1093556670565892097

GreekSpursfan
02-07-2019, 12:16 PM
I'm against any move that involves us giving away picks. Our assets are not moveable unless you want to throw D.White or Davis B. in the mix. Wayne Ellington is someone i would go after if he gets bought out. Stanley Johnson that the Bucks got is terrible but then again they gave trash for trash. None of the guys that were moved is anything to write home about. Mirotic is good but i don't think he would like to come to us if some contender gets in the way.

venitian navigator
02-07-2019, 12:20 PM
at what hour is the deadline?

look_at_g_shred
02-07-2019, 12:21 PM
at what hour is the deadline?
2 PM CST

John B
02-07-2019, 12:31 PM
2 PM CST
Tic tac tic tac... somebody wake RC :lol:lol:lol

exstatic
02-07-2019, 12:37 PM
Tic tac tic tac... somebody wake RC :lol:lol:lol

Why? Does he need a breath mint, or something?

diceman
02-07-2019, 12:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1093556670565892097

Rockets clearing out space for a bigger trade or shedding more lux tax?

SpurPadre
02-07-2019, 12:49 PM
Why? Does he need a breath mint, or something?

Yes, he smells of liquor, tbh.

venitian navigator
02-07-2019, 12:50 PM
2 PM CST

thanks...so just few more hours...

ceperez
02-07-2019, 12:54 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1093568350775664640

Ron Swanson
02-07-2019, 12:56 PM
1093568982848811009

YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 12:56 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1093568350775664640

Bucks winning the east and will give the warriors a handful

ceperez
02-07-2019, 12:57 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1093568982848811009

WTF... they got Stanley Johnson and then traded him to the Pelicans!

r0drig0lac
02-07-2019, 12:58 PM
Bucks...76ers....will be a hell of a playoff in the east

YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 12:58 PM
Bucks will send Jason Smith and Stanley Johnson to Pelicans for Mirotic, per source.

maybe we are still in on Johnson

ceperez
02-07-2019, 12:59 PM
Going to be bloody in the East. Bucks with a very good trade here!

GreekSpursfan
02-07-2019, 01:00 PM
Bucks GM is a genius, he gave trash for a pretty good loan. I dont want any part of S.Johnson he sucks. Can we please get W. Ellington when he's bought out because he will.

Leetonidas
02-07-2019, 01:01 PM
Rooting for coach Bud. They've built a really solid team around Giannis and I think they're coming out of the East this year

ace3g
02-07-2019, 01:02 PM
Stanley Johnson on the move again

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1093570287457644544

Dverde
02-07-2019, 01:02 PM
Toronto should move Nephew now. He ain’t staying and they ain’t winning the East.

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:02 PM
At least some of y'all can now make the short pilgrimage to go see Stanley Johnson in New Orleans.

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:03 PM
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SpurPadre
02-07-2019, 01:03 PM
Rooting for coach Bud. They've built a really solid team around Giannis and I think they're coming out of the East this year

It's hard to root for Bud when he has such an arrogant prick in Giannis, tbh. Fucker is good but classless AF, tbh.

SpurPadre
02-07-2019, 01:04 PM
Toronto should move Nephew now. He ain’t staying and they ain’t winning the East.

It's not like he plays much anyways lol.

BG_Spurs_Fan
02-07-2019, 01:04 PM
4 picks for Mirotic's rental :wow

Leetonidas
02-07-2019, 01:07 PM
It's hard to root for Bud when he has such an arrogant prick in Giannis, tbh. Fucker is good but classless AF, tbh.

Is he? I know he made some comment about punching someone in the dick earlier this year :lol but what else has he done? I guess I don't follow him enough tbh

davi78239
02-07-2019, 01:09 PM
Bucks GM is a genius, he gave trash for a pretty good loan. I dont want any part of S.Johnson he sucks. Can we please get W. Ellington when he's bought out because he will.

Okc will be after Ellington too and I bet he would go there over SA

monty4329
02-07-2019, 01:09 PM
Bucks seriously looking at the Finals now. Nephew might not even get to conference finals....

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:11 PM
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YoungbuckMurray
02-07-2019, 01:12 PM
Go get Ross spurs. Do something

GreekSpursfan
02-07-2019, 01:13 PM
I take the genius back but they are second round picks so this is still a very good trade for a team that is going for it.

RD2191
02-07-2019, 01:13 PM
Go get Ross spurs. Do something

:pop: No.

GreekSpursfan
02-07-2019, 01:14 PM
Okc will be after Ellington too and I bet he would go there over SA

Unfortunately i agree with you but lets hope we are wrong.

Ragamuffin
02-07-2019, 01:14 PM
come on spurs any trade pls

TheGreatYacht
02-07-2019, 01:14 PM
Lots of new accounts getting excited today :( so young....

TimDunkem
02-07-2019, 01:14 PM
Go get Ross spurs. Do something

Look at the pic in my profile for your answer.

TimDunkem
02-07-2019, 01:15 PM
Lots of new accounts getting excited today :(

So how much do the Spurs eventually resign Gasol for when his "very tradeable" contract expires?

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:16 PM
Lots of new accounts getting excited today :( so young....

:lol

I also remember when I was once young and naive.

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:17 PM
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NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:17 PM
1093574411259727875

NASpurs
02-07-2019, 01:18 PM
1093574304434974720

Dverde
02-07-2019, 01:18 PM
1093570085342584834

Dell Demps just pulled a heist. Four second rounders, Stanley Johnson, and some other dude for an expiring Mirotic contract.

TheGreatYacht
02-07-2019, 01:19 PM
So how much do the Spurs eventually resign Gasol for when his "very tradeable" contract expires?
1+1 player option. $20M per.

Fluffers will get together in their DM group called the "Estrogen club", and will all agree to bring up his culture and how much he can teach Poeltl in those two years