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boutons_deux
12-01-2019, 09:10 PM
^ oh ok...
your evidence to the contrary.
Capitalism is anti-democratic, anti-American, inhumane. The Capitalist oligarchy's Repug whores are fully intending to make a one-party "soft" authoritarian shithole, just as the oligarchy wants.
ElNono
12-01-2019, 10:46 PM
your evidence to the contrary.
Capitalism is anti-democratic, anti-American, inhumane. The Capitalist oligarchy's Repug whores are fully intending to make a one-party "soft" authoritarian shithole, just as the oligarchy wants.
My evidence is that you vote and it counts.
boutons_deux
12-01-2019, 10:59 PM
My evidence is that you vote and it counts.
it doesn't count. Politicians implement the preferences of BigDonor, not voters
And, eg, the DNC/Clinton/Obama will make sure any people's choice as Warren, Sanders will NOT be the candidate, as will be any challenger to Dem incumbents.
Any Repug that crosses the oligarchy will be primaried with huge $$$ against him and defeated.
ElNono
12-01-2019, 11:08 PM
Your feelings are immaterial. Your vote counts, period. That's what democracy is. The only thing guaranteed is participation, not winning.
ElNono
12-01-2019, 11:09 PM
Heck, when Obama was the president, you had a million excuses too. That's on you.
boutons_deux
12-02-2019, 02:42 PM
Kellyanne Conway slimes ‘rattled’ Lisa Page for speaking out: ‘I’m not a woman who feels sorry for myself’
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/VID_20191202_11.44.00d.jpg
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/quid-pro-quo-marriage-revelation-that-trump-and-melania-sleep-on-separate-floors-sparks-range-of-reactions/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3138
criminal KAC's rhetoric is always transparently dishonest
criminal KAC has not been slimed and slandered by KAC's beloved POTUS shitbag
Lisa Page is defending herself, not feeling sorry for herself.
TheGreatYacht
12-02-2019, 06:15 PM
MSM Spins OPCW Leak As Russian Disinfo - Because Even The TRUTH Is But Merely A Russian Trick
https://youtu.be/0v33-e5gOQM
boutons_deux
12-02-2019, 11:01 PM
Lawrence O'Donnell Monday night played the video of Trash, at one of his Nuremberg rallies,
acting as Lisa Page having an orgasm while being fucked by Peter Strzok
Trash is 100% trash, as are is his supporters.
boutons_deux
12-03-2019, 09:46 AM
More evidence that Trash can act innocent because he is innocent
How the Ukraine pressure campaign began as an effort to undercut the Mueller investigation
“I knew they were hot and heavy on this Russian collusion thing, even though I knew 100 percent that it was false,” Giuliani recently told conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck.
“I said to myself, ‘Hallelujah.’
I’ve got what a defense lawyer always wants:
I can go prove someone else committed this crime.”
Giuliani’s efforts to undermine the special counsel probe
eventually snowballed into the current impeachment crisis gripping the capital —
highlighting how the pressure Trump and his allies put on Ukraine
originated as an effort to sow doubts about the Russia investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-ukraine-pressure-campaign-began-as-an-effort-to-undercut-the-mueller-investigation/2019/12/02/208204c8-12c9-11ea-9cd7-a1becbc82f5e_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-ukraine-pressure-campaign-began-as-an-effort-to-undercut-the-mueller-investigation/2019/12/02/208204c8-12c9-11ea-9cd7-a1becbc82f5e_story.html)
boutons_deux
12-10-2019, 03:04 PM
Ex-Trump aide Rick Gates was offered ‘monetary assistance’ to stay quiet during Mueller’s investigation
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rick-Gates-with-Trump.jpg
Rick Gates was offered “monetary assistance” to refuse to cooperate with federal prosecutors, according to a new court filing.
The former Trump deputy campaign chair,
who took a plea deal and flipped on his longtime associate Paul Manafort,
was offered an apparent bribe before agreeing to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/ex-trump-aide-rick-gates-was-offered-monetary-assistance-to-stay-quiet-during-muellers-investigation/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3203
Now would Trash or anybody want to pay Gates to STFU?
Spurs Homer
12-10-2019, 03:08 PM
Ex-Trump aide Rick Gates was offered ‘monetary assistance’ to stay quiet during Mueller’s investigation
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rick-Gates-with-Trump.jpg
Rick Gates was offered “monetary assistance” to refuse to cooperate with federal prosecutors, according to a new court filing.
The former Trump deputy campaign chair,
who took a plea deal and flipped on his longtime associate Paul Manafort,
was offered an apparent bribe before agreeing to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/ex-trump-aide-rick-gates-was-offered-monetary-assistance-to-stay-quiet-during-muellers-investigation/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3203
Now would Trash or anybody want to pay Gates to STFU?
so what we get is a drip-drip of trump crimes
while he cheats again
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 10:43 AM
Guilty Is As Guilty Does
Justice Department Ignores Kushner Part Of Court Order To Release Mueller Interview Notes
Information won through a lawsuit by CNN and BuzzFeed is conspicuously missing the court-ordered records on Donald Trump’s son-in-law.
In apparent defiance of a court order, the
Justice Department (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/us-department-of-justice) has held back all notes in the Robert Mueller (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/robert-mueller)investigation concerning interviews with Donald Trump (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump)’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/jared-kushner),
Justice officials were ordered to turn over notes to two news organizations from the former special counsel’s interviews with key witnesses during his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
The department on Friday released an additional 176 pages of documents after a batch more than two weeks ago.
But all information linked to Kushner was conspicuously missing (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/mueller-documents-cnn-buzzfeed-lawsuit/index.html),
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-robert-mueller-documents_n_5e251ce6c5b674e44b9a6cb6?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-robert-mueller-documents_n_5e251ce6c5b674e44b9a6cb6?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews)
This is how Trash's corrupt personal lawyer Barr protects criminal Trash and his mafiya from exposure and persecution.
Spurs Homer
01-20-2020, 11:01 AM
Justice Department Ignores Kushner Part Of Court Order To Release Mueller Interview Notes
Information won through a lawsuit by CNN and BuzzFeed is conspicuously missing the court-ordered records on Donald Trump’s son-in-law.
In apparent defiance of a court order, the
Justice Department (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/us-department-of-justice) has held back all notes in the Robert Mueller (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/robert-mueller)investigation concerning interviews with Donald Trump (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump)’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/jared-kushner),
Justice officials were ordered to turn over notes to two news organizations from the former special counsel’s interviews with key witnesses during his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
The department on Friday released an additional 176 pages of documents after a batch more than two weeks ago.
But all information linked to Kushner was conspicuously missing (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/mueller-documents-cnn-buzzfeed-lawsuit/index.html),
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-robert-mueller-documents_n_5e251ce6c5b674e44b9a6cb6?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-robert-mueller-documents_n_5e251ce6c5b674e44b9a6cb6?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews)
This is how Trash's corrupt personal lawyer Barr protects criminal Trash and his mafiya from exposure and persecution.
DOJ/Trump team criminals defying their OWN court order
USA INTEL -scared shitless of the criminals they are supposed to keep in check- so they are refusing to alert our own congressional intel - of possible national security issues
The entire GOP is complicit in these crimes and these cover ups
The entire right wing criminal enterprise - aided by their racist treasonous CULT -has dismantled our democracy and as they commandeer MORE power -will only grow bolder and more corrupt.
”power corrupts- and absolute power corrupts absolutely” as brit historian- Lord Acton said....
yet everyone is so fucking calm....
Winehole23
03-05-2020, 06:08 PM
More on the Buzzfeed lawsuit, Judge Walton benchslaps AG Barr, says he distorted the findings of the Mueller. Report and that his redactions aren't trustworthy without independent verification.
He has ordered the DOJ to deliver the unredacted Mueller report to the court by March 30th.
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More on the Buzzfeed lawsuit, Judge Walton benchslaps AG Barr, says he distorted the findings of the Mueller. Report and that his redactions aren't trustworthy without independent verification.
He has ordered the DOJ to deliver the unredacted Mueller report to the court by March 30th.
1235688319348092930Mueller's own office worked closely with Barr on the redactions :lol But Mueller's team has already proven itself to be untrustworthy so Judge Walton may have a point.
Spurs Homer
03-05-2020, 06:32 PM
More on the Buzzfeed lawsuit, Judge Walton benchslaps AG Barr, says he distorted the findings of the Mueller. Report and that his redactions aren't trustworthy without independent verification.
He has ordered the DOJ to deliver the unredacted Mueller report to the court by March 30th.
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im gonna take a wild guess and say that barr/trump will not comply
either by some other illicit action- or just boldly refusing to turn it over
judge to be called a “nevertrumper in 5,4,3....”
Winehole23
03-05-2020, 06:48 PM
Mueller's own office worked closely with Barr on the redactions :lol But Mueller's team has already proven itself to be untrustworthy so Judge Walton may have a point.Spin away, but a Republican appointed federal judge of Judge Walton's stature calling the country's top legal officer untrustworthy is rare -- has it ever happened?
Spin away, but a Republican appointed federal judge of Judge Walton's stature calling the country's top legal officer untrustworthy is rare -- has it ever happened?
I don’t care if he’s a Republican judge and I don’t care if a Republican judge who hasn’t read the unredacted report doesn’t trust the redactions.
Judge Walton claims Barr was specifically misleading because his summary said Mueller found no conspiracy or coordination between Trump campaign and Russia (Mueller’s words) but his summary did not say Mueller found contacts between Trump campaign and individuals with ties to the Russian government. Mueller was specifically tasked by Rosenstein to find conspiracy or coordination and Barr summarized his findings. Not including perfectly legal contacts in the summary with people from another country during a campaign is no where near misleading. Walton looks like a fool prejudging before even reading the redactions.
I highly doubt Judge Walton is even aware that the DOJ and Mueller’s team worked together on the redactions. If so what a fool.
Winehole23
03-05-2020, 08:00 PM
I highly doubt Judge Walton is even aware that the DOJ and Mueller’s team worked together on the redactions. If so what a fool.Supposing Mueller had as much control as Barr over the released version is naive. Suggesting Judge Walton was unaware of Mueller participation in the review is highly implausible.
Do you think Barr gave Mueller equal discretion in every particular?
You put a lot of weight on "worked together," who was the boss?
Winehole23
03-05-2020, 08:03 PM
lol white knighting Trump's consigliere.
Supposing Mueller had as much control as Barr over the released version is naive. Suggesting Judge Walton was unaware of Mueller participation in the review is highly implausible.
Do you think Barr gave Mueller equal discretion in every particular?
You put a lot of weight on "worked together," who was the boss?
Mueller’s team ran to the NYT to voice their displeasure with his summary. Can you point me to a similar article of them voicing the same displeasure after the redacted report was released?
lol white knighting Trump's consigliere.
Judge Walton claims Barr was specifically misleading because his summary said Mueller found no conspiracy or coordination between Trump campaign and Russia (Mueller’s words) but his summary did not say Mueller found contacts between Trump campaign and individuals with ties to the Russian government. Mueller was specifically tasked by Rosenstein to find conspiracy or coordination and Barr summarized his findings.
Was that misleading considering what Mueller was tasked to find? Yes or no.
ChumpDumper
03-05-2020, 08:51 PM
:lol TSA put on his barrister wig again acting like he knows more than federal judges.
Winehole23
03-06-2020, 12:44 AM
Mueller’s team ran to the NYT to voice their displeasure with his summary. Can you point me to a similar article of them voicing the same displeasure after the redacted report was released?Mueller didn't make waves.
You'd have to ask him why, but I'm sure you have a ready inference you take as true.
Winehole23
03-06-2020, 12:48 AM
Judge Walton claims Barr was specifically misleading because his summary said Mueller found no conspiracy or coordination between Trump campaign and Russia (Mueller’s words) but his summary did not say Mueller found contacts between Trump campaign and individuals with ties to the Russian government. Mueller was specifically tasked by Rosenstein to find conspiracy or coordination and Barr summarized his findings.
Was that misleading considering what Mueller was tasked to find? Yes or no.
Barr's summary was crafted to benefit his client, the President. It was misleading. That was the whole point of releasing a summary before the redacted report.
Total propaganda artefact.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 01:10 AM
The cover up is crumbling
truth always comes out - and history will not be kind.
Chucho
03-06-2020, 01:16 AM
The only satisfying thing about Trump's re-election will be seeing Homer's meltdown. RG is old hat and no one melts down better than Bonnerific-with-a-vchip.
And laughing at rube Dems on social media.
Barr's summary was crafted to benefit his client, the President. It was misleading. That was the whole point of releasing a summary before the redacted report.
Total propaganda artefact.
You dodged the specific claim by Walton. Again, was it misleading? Yes or no.
And since you want to dive into the entire report, what specifically was misleading from Barr’s summary compared to Mueller’s report. Be specific, point by point.
The only satisfying thing about Trump's re-election will be seeing Homer's meltdown. RG is old hat and no one melts down better than Bonnerific-with-a-vchip.
And laughing at rube Dems on social media.
Homer has worn out his entertainment value and his reaction is 100% predictable. RG still hasn’t recovered since his girl lost, don’t think he’ll have any fight left in him.
The in-party bickering and white flagging before the election is the best you’ll get so enjoy it while you can.
Winehole23
03-06-2020, 01:30 AM
You dodged the specific claim by Walton. Again, was it misleading? Yes or no.
And since you want to dive into the entire report, what specifically was misleading from Barr’s summary compared to Mueller’s report. Be specific, point by point.Alright, I'll give this a go mańana.
Alright, I'll give this a go mańana.
:bobo
Winehole23
03-06-2020, 01:33 AM
:boboYour backflips defending this sadistic authoritarian prick are amazing.
Chucho
03-06-2020, 01:39 AM
Homer has worn out his entertainment value and his reaction is 100% predictable. RG still hasn’t recovered since his girl lost, don’t think he’ll have any fight left in him.
The in-party bickering and white flagging before the election is the best you’ll get so enjoy it while you can.
Nothing to enjoy. I'm not voting this year.
Not a person on the ballot is worthy of leading our country. Trump is a failure and the DNC offers not a single better option and that's sickening.
ElNono
03-06-2020, 04:45 AM
You dodged the specific claim by Walton. Again, was it misleading? Yes or no.
And since you want to dive into the entire report, what specifically was misleading from Barr’s summary compared to Mueller’s report. Be specific, point by point.
Except that's not what Walton said, nor claimed, and has nothing to do with the redactions. See the full order here: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/03/05/uenrosj.pdf
Furthermore, as much 'coordination' as you like to claim, Mueller was actually displeased with Barr summary and made it quite clear and public at the time (https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/special-counsel-mueller-s-letter-to-attorney-general-barr/e32695eb-c379-4696-845a-1b45ad32fff1/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2).
What judge Walton points out is that there's large discrepancies in the initial summary vs the content of the actual redacted report released by the DOJ. Also the fact that it took only 2 days for the DOJ to reach alleged final conclusions about the the 381-page report, without even redacting or releasing the report, which the judge believes might've been used to impose a narrative prior to the redacted report release.
Also, the judge only wants to do an in-camera, independent review of the unredacted report himself to ensure the redactions match the public statements of the AG. There's no claim of bad faith (yet) from the judge directly on the AG.
ElNono
03-06-2020, 04:48 AM
IV.CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, the Court concludes that it must grant in part and deny without prejudice in part the plaintiffs’ motions.
Specifically, the Court must grant the plaintiffs’ motions to the extent they seek in camera review of the unredacted version of the Mueller Report and deny without prejudice the plaintiffs’ motions in all other respects.
The Court further concludes that it must deny without prejudice the Department’s motion for summary judgment and directs the Department to submit the unredacted version of the Mueller Report to the Court for in camera review.
If, after reviewing the unredacted version of the Mueller Report, the Court concludes that all of the information has been appropriately withheld under the claimed FOIA exemptions, it will issue a supplemental Memorandum Opinion and Order granting the Department’s motion for summary judgment on that ground and denying the plaintiffs’ cross-motions.
On the other hand, if the Court concludes after its in camera review that any of the redacted information was inappropriately withheld, it will issue a supplemental Memorandum Opinion and Order that comports with that finding.
Thread
03-06-2020, 05:06 AM
Usually the Dems do that kinda shit to us & make us like it, not vice versa.
Feels good.
Winehole23
03-06-2020, 09:10 AM
Usually the Dems do that kinda shit to us & make us like it, not vice versa.
Feels good.
What are you talking about?
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 10:26 AM
The only satisfying thing about Trump's re-election will be seeing Homer's meltdown. RG is old hat and no one melts down better than Bonnerific-with-a-vchip.
And laughing at rube Dems on social media.
watching a self-proclaimed native american - be complicit in the white supremacists fuckery- and cheering him on - despite the fact that white supremacist destroyed his people
is pretty entertaining also!
that stain will define you forever
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 11:04 AM
Except that's not what Walton said, nor claimed, and has nothing to do with the redactions. See the full order here: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/03/05/uenrosj.pdf
Furthermore, as much 'coordination' as you like to claim, Mueller was actually displeased with Barr summary and made it quite clear and public at the time (https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/special-counsel-mueller-s-letter-to-attorney-general-barr/e32695eb-c379-4696-845a-1b45ad32fff1/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2).
What judge Walton points out is that there's large discrepancies in the initial summary vs the content of the actual redacted report released by the DOJ. Also the fact that it took only 2 days for the DOJ to reach alleged final conclusions about the the 381-page report, without even redacting or releasing the report, which the judge believes might've been used to impose a narrative prior to the redacted report release.
Also, the judge only wants to do an in-camera, independent review of the unredacted report himself to ensure the redactions match the public statements of the AG. There's no claim of bad faith (yet) from the judge directly on the AG.
the lawyers in here can do better than I - but here are some cliffs notes of the Analysis & Conclusion:
1) Judge calls out Barr for his spinning of the Mueller report and details how Barrs “summary” and Muellers findings
are contradictory
2) plaintiff is asking for unredacted mueller report - but Judge is uneasy about ruling on it - so he is ordering “in camera” review- so he can feel equipped to either grant the motion or reject it
3) DOJ is asking for a “summary judgement” and the judge is flatly denying it- meaning: DOJ is asking judge to dismiss the case so they can continue the cover up - judge says NO
4) Judge calls Barr out for his spinning and biased handling and orders the “in camera” unredacted review - because he doubts that Barrs redactions were PROPERLY done - due to barrs previous illicit actions
Thread
03-06-2020, 11:39 AM
What are you talking about?
You know, Barr running interference for the old man before the actual Mule Report hit. He prefaced & prepared the battle field.
You guys used to be the only ones who fought like that, did things like that. Not anymore.
ha, ha.
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 11:45 AM
You know, Barr running interference for the old man before the actual Mule Report hit. He prefaced & prepared the battle field.
You guys used to be the only ones who fought like that, did things like that. Not anymore.
ha, ha.
just boil it down- culbear
it is called a
Criminal Coverup
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 11:47 AM
Judge cited Barr for....
wait for it....
LACK OF CANDOR
(republicans clutch pearls! OMG Barr is on the MCCabe level!)
Thread
03-06-2020, 11:50 AM
just boil it down- culbear
it is called a
Criminal Coverup
Next time it'll be your turn again, Homer & we will be holding the dirty end of the stick.
Except that's not what Walton said, nor claimed, and has nothing to do with the redactions. See the full order here: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/03/05/uenrosj.pdfI read the full order yesterday and that is exactly what he claimed. Please excuse the formatting when trying to copy and paste from the pdf.
Specifically, Attorney General Barr’s summary failed to indicate that Special Counsel Mueller “identified multiple
contacts—‘links,’ in the words of the Appointment Order—between Trump [c]ampaign officials
and individuals with ties to the Russian government,” Def.’s Mot., Ex. D (Mueller Report –
Volume I) at 66, and that Special Counsel Mueller only concluded that the investigation did not establish that “these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump
[c]ampaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the [Trump]
[c]ampaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future,”
Furthermore, as much 'coordination' as you like to claim, Mueller was actually displeased with Barr summary and made it quite clear and public at the time (https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/special-counsel-mueller-s-letter-to-attorney-general-barr/e32695eb-c379-4696-845a-1b45ad32fff1/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2). I already pointed out the Mueller's team was displeased with the summary and made that clear to the public. I asked winehole to provide something showing Mueller's team was displeased with the redactions from the full report, still waiting.
What judge Walton points out is that there's large discrepancies in the initial summary vs the content of the actual redacted report released by the DOJ. Also the fact that it took only 2 days for the DOJ to reach alleged final conclusions about the the 381-page report, without even redacting or releasing the report, which the judge believes might've been used to impose a narrative prior to the redacted report release.List the discrepancies the Judge points out.
Also, the judge only wants to do an in-camera, independent review of the unredacted report himself to ensure the redactions match the public statements of the AG. There's no claim of bad faith (yet) from the judge directly on the AG.This should have been directed at winehole.
Chucho
03-06-2020, 01:17 PM
watching a self-proclaimed native american - be complicit in the white supremacists fuckery- and cheering him on - despite the fact that white supremacist destroyed his people
is pretty entertaining also!
that stain will define you forever
and here you are, just like the whitey you are, trying to tell me how to think and feel. Fuck you with your micro-oppression. i don't get you white folk that think we need to think the way you tell us to think and yet you see nothing wrong with that because of your white privilege. the fact that a brown skinned dude doesn't feel how you want him to feel really fucking irks you. how dare us brown skins dare not to feel the same way whitey does. same goes for the blacks that refuse to let you whites make them dependent uncle toms.
not voting for Trump. He's a clown, yet your team is so full of people like you, they can't even beat this orange criminal. One of the worst POTUSes and you're gonna lose to him again. most of your side has already thrown in the towel. they're apathetic. I called det shit a long time ago.
still tho, your meltdown should be great. :bobo
Spurs Homer
03-06-2020, 01:24 PM
and here you are, just like the whitey you are, trying to tell me how to think and feel. Fuck you with your micro-oppression. i don't get you white folk that think we need to think the way you tell us to think and yet you see nothing wrong with that because of your white privilege. the fact that a brown skinned dude doesn't feel how you want him to feel really fucking irks you. how dare us brown skins dare not to feel the same way whitey does. same goes for the blacks that refuse to let you whites make them dependent uncle toms.
not voting for Trump. He's a clown, yet your team is so full of people like you, they can't even beat this orange criminal. One of the worst POTUSes and you're gonna lose to him again. most of your side has already thrown in the towel. they're apathetic. I called det shit a long time ago.
still tho, your meltdown should be great. :bobo
so much - fail- in all your postings/drivel
man the fuck up
ANY native american will be distrustful of white supremacists
not cheer them on
you are weak and whitewashed
Chucho
03-06-2020, 01:29 PM
so much - fail- in all your postings/drivel
man the fuck up
ANY native american will be distrustful of white supremacists
not cheer them on
you are weak and whitewashed
see. you're super pissed I don't feel the way you want me to. your oppression and anger are duly noted. you're a disgusting piece of shit and nothing more than a typical white oppressor like your ancestors. injun don't do what white man say, white man try character assassination. white man too feminine to carry gun like ancestors.
ElNono
03-07-2020, 12:04 AM
I read the full order yesterday and that is exactly what he claimed. Please excuse the formatting when trying to copy and paste from the pdf.
Specifically, Attorney General Barr’s summary failed to indicate that Special Counsel Mueller “identified multiple
contacts—‘links,’ in the words of the Appointment Order—between Trump [c]ampaign officials
and individuals with ties to the Russian government,” Def.’s Mot., Ex. D (Mueller Report –
Volume I) at 66, and that Special Counsel Mueller only concluded that the investigation did not establish that “these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump
[c]ampaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the [Trump]
[c]ampaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future,”
You 'forgot' to quote what comes right after that...
Attorney General Barr also failed to disclose to the American public that, with respect to Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation into whether President Trump obstructed justice, Special Counsel Mueller “ determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment . . . recognizing that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting president would place burdens on the president’s capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct,” but nevertheless declared that if he had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that President Trump clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, he would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, he is unable to reach that judgment. The evidence he obtained about President Trump’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent him from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while the Mueller Report does not conclude that President Trump committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. Id., Ex. D (Mueller Report – Volume II) at 1–2.
The actual claim by the judge is that in the overall, there were clear and important omissions (lack of candor) in the original summary vis a vis the eventually released redacted copy, that warrant an in-camera review of an unredacted copy.
List the discrepancies the Judge points out.
You quoted half, I quoted the other half, right up there ^.
I already pointed out the Mueller's team was displeased with the summary and made that clear to the public. I asked winehole to provide something showing Mueller's team was displeased with the redactions from the full report, still waiting.
Why would you ask for something that was not claimed nor part of the ruling? It's immaterial to the judge whether Mueller was pleased or not with the redacted report, as the concerns raise from the omissions between the summary and redacted report.
This should have been directed at winehole.
He's reading too, I presume.
Winehole23
03-07-2020, 04:10 AM
Sorry all, long day in the market, add dinner with the gf, band practice and the aftermath, I just got home!
Nighty-nite!
boutons_deux
03-10-2020, 12:58 PM
Trump judge hit with a brutal legal slap down
after trying to block Democrats from Mueller grand jury docs
a federal appeals court ruled that the
Department of Justice must hand over documents from Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation to Congress.
Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee, was the lone dissenter. :lol
Judge Thomas Griffith, a conservative George W. Bush appointee, took time to address Rao’s reasoning for her dissent, writing at one point that Rao’s “distinction between authorization and compulsion strikes me as untenable on its own terms.”
“The dissent explains this distinction by arguing that the court’s ‘supervisory power is strictly limited to actions taken …
in aid of the grand jury’ and that compelling disclosure aids third parties rather than the grand jury. …
But merely authorizing disclosure also aids third parties rather than the grand jury,” writes Griffith.
“The dissent therefore cannot explain why
the district court has power to permit disclosure in the first place.
Taken to its logical conclusion,
the dissent’s theory would seem to require outright dismissal of this case—
a result that the dissent agrees is contrary to history and precedent.”
Griffith closed (https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1237414020761739264) by
accusing Rao of trying to “chase jurisdictional phantoms” :lol
in an effort to keep the un-redacted Mueller report out of the House’s hands.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-judge-hit-with-a-brutal-legal-slap-down-after-trying-to-block-democrats-from-mueller-grand-jury-docs/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3921 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-judge-hit-with-a-brutal-legal-slap-down-after-trying-to-block-democrats-from-mueller-grand-jury-docs/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3921)
:lol :lol One of Leonard Leo's assholes get crushed.
Spurs Homer
03-10-2020, 03:27 PM
Trump judge hit with a brutal legal slap down
after trying to block Democrats from Mueller grand jury docs
a federal appeals court ruled that the
Department of Justice must hand over documents from Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation to Congress.
Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee, was the lone dissenter. :lol
Judge Thomas Griffith, a conservative George W. Bush appointee, took time to address Rao’s reasoning for her dissent, writing at one point that Rao’s “distinction between authorization and compulsion strikes me as untenable on its own terms.”
“The dissent explains this distinction by arguing that the court’s ‘supervisory power is strictly limited to actions taken …
in aid of the grand jury’ and that compelling disclosure aids third parties rather than the grand jury. …
But merely authorizing disclosure also aids third parties rather than the grand jury,” writes Griffith.
“The dissent therefore cannot explain why
the district court has power to permit disclosure in the first place.
Taken to its logical conclusion,
the dissent’s theory would seem to require outright dismissal of this case—
a result that the dissent agrees is contrary to history and precedent.”
Griffith closed (https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1237414020761739264) by
accusing Rao of trying to “chase jurisdictional phantoms” :lol
in an effort to keep the un-redacted Mueller report out of the House’s hands.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-judge-hit-with-a-brutal-legal-slap-down-after-trying-to-block-democrats-from-mueller-grand-jury-docs/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3921 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-judge-hit-with-a-brutal-legal-slap-down-after-trying-to-block-democrats-from-mueller-grand-jury-docs/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3921)
:lol :lol One of Leonard Leo's assholes get crushed.
DOJ will appeal to the Scotus -
another delay probably just stall until election
cover up continues...
boutons_deux
03-10-2020, 10:08 PM
Trump Continues To Punish Jeff Sessions,
Endorses His Opponent In Alabama Senate Race
https://am11.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2018/12/Trump-Tweet-Sessions.jpg
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-continues-to-punish-jeff-sessions-endorses-his-opponent-in-alabama-senate-race/ (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-continues-to-punish-jeff-sessions-endorses-his-opponent-in-alabama-senate-race/)
Thread
03-11-2020, 10:25 AM
Trump Continues To Punish Jeff Sessions,
Endorses His Opponent In Alabama Senate Race
https://am11.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2018/12/Trump-Tweet-Sessions.jpg
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-continues-to-punish-jeff-sessions-endorses-his-opponent-in-alabama-senate-race/ (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-continues-to-punish-jeff-sessions-endorses-his-opponent-in-alabama-senate-race/)
But, secretly, bouts, the old man wants him back in there. He just hopes he can eat his cake (punish Jeff) & have it too (Jeff back in there).
It's human. It's American male.
Just hope it works out. They was hoping that Jones would turn coat & come across the aisle, but, instead he went full Democrat! That, more than anything else has hurt us in Alabama. The DNC has made promises to Jones, big promises & will fulfill them.
Thread
03-11-2020, 10:27 AM
DOJ will appeal to the Scotus -
another delay probably just stall until election
cover up continues...
Nothing wrong with that 3rd pillar of American gov't. Your side used & uses it extensively. You just didn't want our side using it.
You get 5 Justices to compel him you got 'er dicked. Otherwise, NO.
pgardn
07-12-2020, 08:58 AM
The importance of the Mueller investigation purposely avoided by the worshipers of the orange God and by blue team members That thought it was wrong:
mueller has weighed in with an op Ed and people need to look at the underlined parts to understand what the investigation did and did not do
this is in honor of all the bumpage that has gone on
We now have a detailed picture of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election,” Mueller wrote. “We also identified numerous links between the Russian government and Trump campaign personnel — Stone among them. We did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government in its activities. The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. It also established that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”
Witchhunt my ass
this is still being denied and purposely overlooked by the red team.
they want to forget the last two underlined statements. The blue team does not like the first underlined statement. Schiff in particular.
I believe all of the above underlined.
if you don’t , I believe you can be put in the partisan hack category.
pgardn
07-12-2020, 02:05 PM
Invite him to talk about more than Stone before the election as the red team apparently thinks it’s ok to fck with our elections and team Trump may welcome it.
https://apple.news/A07pGYKqMQqSx87QnU5ODEA
Spurs Homer
07-12-2020, 03:17 PM
The importance of the Mueller investigation purposely avoided by the worshipers of the orange God and by blue team members That thought it was wrong:
mueller has weighed in with an op Ed and people need to look at the underlined parts to understand what the investigation did and did not do
this is in honor of all the bumpage that has gone on
We now have a detailed picture of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election,” Mueller wrote. “We also identified numerous links between the Russian government and Trump campaign personnel — Stone among them. We did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government in its activities. The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. It also established that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”
Witchhunt my ass
this is still being denied and purposely overlooked by the red team.
they want to forget the last two underlined statements. The blue team does not like the first underlined statement. Schiff in particular.
I believe all of the above underlined.
if you don’t , I believe you can be put in the partisan hack category.
I agree with all of the above - and IF you are NOT a partisan hack yourself you should also agree -
(regarding the FIRST - underlined part that you accuse Schiff and Dems of not liking)
that ONE of the reasons Mueller team did NOT establish a conspiracy was because of traitors like Stone and Manafort and Flynn who did not cooperate and obstructed the investigation - same as Trump -
the fact that Muellers hands were also tied - in not being able to compel Trump and trump jr and others to testify under a grand jury further drive that point home
he did NOT establish a conspiracy
ONLY because of the criminality that trump team traitors continued while covering up an investigation.
Finally -
the Mueller report AND the Grand Jury materials are still under a cover up.
Don't try and paint yourself as some neutral arbiter - and accuse any side of hackery - unless you state complete facts - otherwise you fall into the same thing you are accusing others of.
pgardn
07-12-2020, 08:45 PM
I agree with all of the above - and IF you are NOT a partisan hack yourself you should also agree -
(regarding the FIRST - underlined part that you accuse Schiff and Dems of not liking)
that ONE of the reasons Mueller team did NOT establish a conspiracy was because of traitors like Stone and Manafort and Flynn who did not cooperate and obstructed the investigation - same as Trump -
the fact that Muellers hands were also tied - in not being able to compel Trump and trump jr and others to testify under a grand jury further drive that point home
he did NOT establish a conspiracy
ONLY because of the criminality that trump team traitors continued while covering up an investigation.
Finally -
the Mueller report AND the Grand Jury materials are still under a cover up.
Don't try and paint yourself as some neutral arbiter - and accuse any side of hackery - unless you state complete facts - otherwise you fall into the same thing you are accusing others of.
Your are a partisan hack.
You have zero evidence that meetings took place between Trump and Russia on planning on how they would win the election together. The fact that witnesses did NOT get to testify does not AUTOMATICALLY lead to the conclusion given in bold.
You also said you would disown members of your own family that still sided RED.
You are the hack and the unyielding hardhead in the vein of the man you hate.
Hypocrisy at its finest in the blue.
Spurs Homer
07-13-2020, 11:28 AM
E
Your are a partisan hack.
You have zero evidence that meetings took place between Trump and Russia on planning on how they would win the election together. The fact that witnesses did NOT get to testify does not AUTOMATICALLY lead to the conclusion given in bold.
You also said you would disown members of your own family that still sided RED.
You are the hack and the unyielding hardhead in the vein of the man you hate.
Hypocrisy at its finest in the blue.
you are really dense;
I agreed with all your underlined statements-
and
ONLY ADDED- that
1) there are reasons why mueller didnt/couldnt prove the conspiracy (hundreds of russia/trump contacts in the mueller report)
and
2) mueller report is still under a cover up -as is the grand jury materials - not to mention- other fbi cases being hidden by barr
nothing partisan about any of that-
you lay your trust in that “you have no proof blah-blah”
which is your opinion-
all im saying is that your opinion is not taking into account the fact that the evidence is still being covered up by trump and barr and the supreme court is dragging its feet until after the election...
why you want to protect russia snd trump and minimize their unpatriotic illegal activity is beyond me...
RandomGuy
08-19-2020, 04:37 PM
...and the Senate intel report confirms just about everything in it.
Including the collusion.
...and the Senate intel report confirms just about everything in it.
Including the collusion.
Acting chairman of the committee who released the report :lmao
“Over the last three years, the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted a bipartisan and thorough investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election and undermine our democracy. We interviewed over 200 witnesses and reviewed over one million pages of documents. No probe into this matter has been more exhaustive.
“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election."
And can't forget what your God Mueller said :lmao
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
ChumpDumper
08-19-2020, 04:59 PM
:lol avoiding the actual report at all costs
:lol criminal referrals meaningless now
Winehole23
08-19-2020, 05:03 PM
Just keep tap dancing, TSA
pgardn
08-19-2020, 06:13 PM
Acting chairman of the committee who released the report :lmao
“Over the last three years, the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted a bipartisan and thorough investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election and undermine our democracy. We interviewed over 200 witnesses and reviewed over one million pages of documents. No probe into this matter has been more exhaustive.
“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election."
And can't forget what your God Mueller said :lmao
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
Number one the Russians did interfere in our elections in an unprecedented manner
Number two the Trump campaign knew about the interference and did nothing
Number three the Trump campaign welcomed the interference because they thought it would help them in the election
Number four the Trump campaign did indeed have communication with the Russians via Manafort and very likely others, but this was an issue to be taken up by Congress.
and lastly, the only reason this president was not voted out of Office was political
The impeachment hearings could not be conclusive because witnesses were told not to testify so it became easy for the red team to dismiss it by a narrow margin totally along party lines.
sorry but this whole Russia thing is a horrible look for a President of the United States. Get him the fck out of office.
Winehole23
10-01-2020, 09:21 AM
unredacted, in part
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Spurs Homer
10-01-2020, 09:34 AM
Cover ups are pretty effective when your own AG can bury any treason until the fire cools down and if uncovered years later when lazy Americans are too busy to care
the cover up was successful.
hombre
10-01-2020, 09:40 AM
Also when then Senate won't interview a single witness.
boutons_deux
10-01-2020, 10:51 AM
Also when then Senate won't interview a single witness.
"won't?"
Trash/Barr said Congress CANNOT depose any Exec branch members, nor see any docs (that aren't yet burned)
RandomGuy
10-01-2020, 12:39 PM
Cover ups are pretty effective when your own AG can bury any treason until the fire cools down and if uncovered years later when lazy Americans are too busy to care
the cover up was successful.
I get the feeling that Barr has probably done something obstruction of justice-y.
RandomGuy
12-29-2020, 10:49 AM
Explain how Trump isn't guilty of multiple felonies. All three elements of felony obstruction are right there, multiple times.
FIRST FELONY
E. Efforts to fire Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 87): Former White House Counsel Don McGahn is a “credible witness” in providing evidence that Trump indeed attempted to fire Mueller. This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.”
Nexus (p. 89): “Substantial evidence” indicates that, at this point, Trump was aware that “his conduct was under investigation by a federal prosecutor who could present any evidence of federal crimes to a grand jury.”
Intent (p. 89): “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]”
SECOND FELONY
F. Efforts to curtail Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 97): Trump’s effort to force Sessions to confine the investigation to only investigating future election interference “would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” “Taken together, the President’s directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign[.]”
Nexus (p. 97): At the relevant point, “the existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by the Special Counsel was public knowledge.”
Intent (p. 97): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump’s efforts were “intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”
THIRD FELONY
I. Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 118): This effort “would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” There is “some evidence” that Trump genuinely believed press reports that he had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller were wrong. However, “[o]ther evidence cuts against that understanding of the president’s conduct”—and the special counsel lists a great deal more evidence on this latter point.
Nexus (p. 119): At this point “the Special Counsel’s use of a grand jury had been further confirmed by the return of several indictments.” Mueller’s office had indicated to Trump’s lawyers that it was investigating obstruction, and Trump knew that McGahn had already been interviewed by Mueller on the topic. “That evidence indicates the President’s awareness” that his efforts to fire Mueller were relevant to official proceedings. Trump “likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it” in directing McGahn to create a false record of the earlier interaction.
Intent (p. 120): “Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny” of Trump.
FOURTH FELONY
J. Conduct toward... Manafort
Obstructive act (p. 131): “The President’s actions toward witnesses … would qualify as obstructive if they had the natural tendency to prevent particular witnesses from testifying truthfully, or otherwise would have the probable effect of influencing, delaying, or preventing their testimony to law enforcement.” ...Regarding Manafort, “there is evidence that the President’s actions had the potential” to influence Manafort’s thinking on cooperation, and his public statements “had the potential to influence the trial jury.”
Nexus (p. 132): Trump’s actions toward [Manafort and others] “appear to have been connected to pending or anticipated official proceedings involving each individual.”
Are multiple counts of obstruction of justice impeachable?
Jan 21st isn't going to be out of the statute of limitations for some of these.
spurraider21
12-29-2020, 11:02 AM
Trump won’t be faced with any federal charges. Get that delusion/fantasy out of your head
Winehole23
12-29-2020, 11:10 AM
Trump won’t be faced with any federal charges. Get that delusion/fantasy out of your headImpeachment/removal was the only available remedy; it failed.
Trump's on his way out, time to move on.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 03:43 PM
Trump won’t be faced with any federal charges. Get that delusion/fantasy out of your head
If he doesn't pardon himself and things come to light from state prosecutions he very well could be. I don't see the feds leading the charge but he is going to be indicted by NY and other states by all indications.
spurraider21
12-29-2020, 03:46 PM
If he doesn't pardon himself and things come to light from state prosecutions he very well could be. I don't see the feds leading the charge but he is going to be indicted by NY and other states by all indications.
biden would pardon him before anything happened even if thats the case
NY might do its own thing, but i specified federal charges
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 03:48 PM
biden would pardon him before anything happened even if thats the case
NY might do its own thing, but i specified federal charges
And thus why I answered as I did. Has Biden given any indication that he would pardon him? All I see him saying and doing is setting things up so that the DoJ is not interfered with. Very publicly as well.
spurraider21
12-29-2020, 03:58 PM
And thus why I answered as I did. Has Biden given any indication that he would pardon him? All I see him saying and doing is setting things up so that the DoJ is not interfered with. Very publicly as well.
all biden talks about is "healing" the country. i dont think having his DOJ go after trump fits with that (misguided) mantra at all
DarrinS
12-29-2020, 04:18 PM
Trump won’t be faced with any federal charges. Get that delusion/fantasy out of your head
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 04:53 PM
all biden talks about is "healing" the country. i dont think having his DOJ go after trump fits with that (misguided) mantra at all
That is all narrative nonsense not policy. He has made a policy declaration of not interfering with DoJ investigations. If the AG -whoever that ends up being- begins an investigation I don't think he would shut it down. I don't think he is going to shut down the ongoing investigations into his son either.
ElNono
12-29-2020, 05:01 PM
That is all narrative nonsense not policy. He has made a policy declaration of not interfering with DoJ investigations. If the AG -whoever that ends up being- begins an investigation I don't think he would shut it down. I don't think he is going to shut down the ongoing investigations into his son either.
He won’t shut down the investigation, but he would definitely grant a pardon.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 05:06 PM
He won’t shut down the investigation, but he would definitely grant a pardon.
That is interfering with an investigation. You are de facto shutting it down. And again what indication has he given that he would do that. I can give you all kinds of quotes discussing his policy of non interference.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 05:10 PM
Biden’s questioner at the town hall got the answer he wanted. The candidate pledged not to pardon Donald Trump. Chances are it will never matter. Only federal cases are subject to presidential pardons, and those against Trump could drag on for years.
https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article246773372.html
So here we have Biden answering a question opposite to the pardon assumption.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 05:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PgDu2OGoEU
boutons_deux
12-29-2020, 05:26 PM
Biden’s questioner at the town hall got the answer he wanted. The candidate pledged not to pardon Donald Trump. Chances are it will never matter. Only federal cases are subject to presidential pardons, and those against Trump could drag on for years.
https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article246773372.html
So here we have Biden answering a question opposite to the pardon assumption.
I read that 30+ state indictment are queued up against Trash and his mafiya.
It will costs him $10Ms in legal fees but his cult mob will continue to finance him. And of course, he has already pocketed a few $100M from cult mob and scams.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-29-2020, 06:02 PM
I read that 30+ state indictment are queued up against Trash and his mafiya.
It will costs him $10Ms in legal fees but his cult mob will continue to finance him. And of course, he has already pocketed a few $100M from cult mob and scams.
His businesses haven't been profitable in decades outside of POTUS leverage. He spends money like mad and I expect that to continue. The proverbial florsheims are held above his head and the fingers are unclenching.
Spurs Homer
12-29-2020, 07:56 PM
Trump will be prosecuted, period.
Book it.
RandomGuy
01-04-2021, 04:42 PM
Trump will be prosecuted, period.
Book it.
https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--OJ1dp0qK--/t_Preview/b_rgb:eae0c7,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1523243093/production/designs/2571359_0.jpg
RandomGuy
01-19-2021, 07:19 PM
Explain how Trump isn't guilty of multiple felonies. All three elements of felony obstruction are right there, multiple times.
FIRST FELONY
E. Efforts to fire Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 87): Former White House Counsel Don McGahn is a “credible witness” in providing evidence that Trump indeed attempted to fire Mueller. This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.”
Nexus (p. 89): “Substantial evidence” indicates that, at this point, Trump was aware that “his conduct was under investigation by a federal prosecutor who could present any evidence of federal crimes to a grand jury.”
Intent (p. 89): “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]”
SECOND FELONY
F. Efforts to curtail Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 97): Trump’s effort to force Sessions to confine the investigation to only investigating future election interference “would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” “Taken together, the President’s directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign[.]”
Nexus (p. 97): At the relevant point, “the existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by the Special Counsel was public knowledge.”
Intent (p. 97): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump’s efforts were “intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”
THIRD FELONY
I. Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller
Obstructive act (p. 118): This effort “would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” There is “some evidence” that Trump genuinely believed press reports that he had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller were wrong. However, “[o]ther evidence cuts against that understanding of the president’s conduct”—and the special counsel lists a great deal more evidence on this latter point.
Nexus (p. 119): At this point “the Special Counsel’s use of a grand jury had been further confirmed by the return of several indictments.” Mueller’s office had indicated to Trump’s lawyers that it was investigating obstruction, and Trump knew that McGahn had already been interviewed by Mueller on the topic. “That evidence indicates the President’s awareness” that his efforts to fire Mueller were relevant to official proceedings. Trump “likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it” in directing McGahn to create a false record of the earlier interaction.
Intent (p. 120): “Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny” of Trump.
FOURTH FELONY
J. Conduct toward... Manafort
Obstructive act (p. 131): “The President’s actions toward witnesses … would qualify as obstructive if they had the natural tendency to prevent particular witnesses from testifying truthfully, or otherwise would have the probable effect of influencing, delaying, or preventing their testimony to law enforcement.” ...Regarding Manafort, “there is evidence that the President’s actions had the potential” to influence Manafort’s thinking on cooperation, and his public statements “had the potential to influence the trial jury.”
Nexus (p. 132): Trump’s actions toward [Manafort and others] “appear to have been connected to pending or anticipated official proceedings involving each individual.”
Are multiple counts of obstruction of justice impeachable?
Now we get to see:
"Is it prosecutable after that fuckwit is out of office?"
The answer is yes. Statute of limitations is not yet up for that motherfucker.
LOCK HIM UP.
RandomGuy
01-25-2021, 02:45 PM
I read that 30+ state indictment are queued up against Trash and his mafiya.
It will costs him $10Ms in legal fees but his cult mob will continue to finance him. And of course, he has already pocketed a few $100M from cult mob and scams.
Still waiting for that to drop.
boutons_deux
01-29-2021, 08:32 AM
‘The perfect target’:
Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy
proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow,
compares the former US president to “the Cambridge five”, (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/18/cambridge-spy-ring-what-biographers-say) the British spy ring that passed secrets to Moscow during the second world war and early cold war.
also explores the former president’s relationship with thedisgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jeffrey-epstein-and-donald-trump-epic-bromance)
they were just students and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump,”
Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ivana-donald-ivanka-trump-russia-communism-czech-republic-721669) a Czech model.
Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.
Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.
According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and
Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset.
The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery."
Shortly after Trump's trip to the USSR, he took out a major advertisement in the New York Times, Washington Post, and Boston Globe, in which
he questioned why America should be paying for the security of NATO countries.
"The bizarre intervention was cause for astonishment and jubilation in Russia,"
Russia did not have some grand long-term conspiracy to make Trump president, but rather lucked into Trump's presidency through a series of unlikely events.
around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book
Winehole23
01-30-2021, 12:02 PM
1355206368370839569
Ball Buster
02-20-2021, 07:31 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1363277356484472836?s=21
Ball Buster
02-20-2021, 07:33 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1363279561706848259?s=21
boutons_deux
03-01-2021, 08:15 AM
Stunning new allegations further connect Trump to Russian mobsters and oligarchs
Trump was certainly no stranger to a sprawling netherworld of Russian gangsters and oligarchs.
this Russian criminal network with worldwide reach hired Felix Sater, one of Trump's closest associates, to hide a fortune stolen in Kazakhstan.
Some of the $440 million was intended to finance a Trump tower in Moscow,
Mueller Stymied
Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III told Congress last year that his team was limited to investigating only criminal acts involved in the 2016 presidential campaign. He was instructed not to touch on counterintelligence.
That was a huge favor to Trump and to a vast network of Russian gangsters and fronts connected to Trump, to his campaign and another of his lawyers, Rudy Giuliani.
The Almaty plaintiffs describe a farflung scheme to hide much of the stolen money in America using Sater, a violent felon and stock swindler, and Robert S. Wolf, a Moses & Singer partner.
Trump-Sater Connections
For years Sater traveled widely with Trump on his personal jet, spoke on his behalf to journalists and was filmed with Trump at public events.
Sater "was aware" the money he funneled through Moses & Singer's client trust account was stolen, court papers say. That's when Sater negotiated his fee for helping to hide the looted money,
Before assuming office Trump was entitled to 18% of the profits from the project which he worked on with Sater.
Trump signed a letter that authorized a reorganization during which millions of dollars disappeared into an Icelandic bank under the thumb of an oligarch.
Brooklyn's Russian Mobsters
The Brooklyn federal courthouse appears to be central to how Russian gangsters in Brooklyn and Long Island get away with crimes in return for funneling information to our government.
That courthouse is home to an estimated 60 to 75 double sealed criminal cases. It is common to seal criminal case files at times, but a double seal means there is not even a public docket indicating a case exists.
these cases all involve Russian-speaking mobsters who, like Bulger, have persuaded the Justice Department that they are more useful as informants and should be allowed to maintain their corrupt businesses.
A 20% actual cut in the IRS budget in the last decade makes the service struggle just to process tax returns.
The $440 million Almaty theft is connected to a larger scheme in which an estimated $10 billion was looted from the government of Kazakhstan.
In December a British court froze (https://www.rferl.org/a/british-court-freezes-billions-tied-to-alleged-kazakh-bank-theft/30980004.html) about $5 billion of the money.
Questions about whether any of that money was laundered via Trump real estate deals are being pursued in other litigation.
Trump's personal lawyer, Giuliani, has had extensive dealings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/impeachment-inquiry-puts-new-focus-on-giulianis-work-for-prominent-figures-in-ukraine/2019/10/01/b3c6d08c-e089-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html) going back at least 14 years with the shadowy and corrupt world of Kazakh petroleum interests.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sater
RandomGuy
03-01-2021, 03:31 PM
Stunning new allegations further connect Trump to Russian mobsters and oligarchs
Trump was certainly no stranger to a sprawling netherworld of Russian gangsters and oligarchs.
this Russian criminal network with worldwide reach hired Felix Sater, one of Trump's closest associates, to hide a fortune stolen in Kazakhstan.
Some of the $440 million was intended to finance a Trump tower in Moscow,
Mueller Stymied
Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III told Congress last year that his team was limited to investigating only criminal acts involved in the 2016 presidential campaign. He was instructed not to touch on counterintelligence.
That was a huge favor to Trump and to a vast network of Russian gangsters and fronts connected to Trump, to his campaign and another of his lawyers, Rudy Giuliani.
The Almaty plaintiffs describe a farflung scheme to hide much of the stolen money in America using Sater, a violent felon and stock swindler, and Robert S. Wolf, a Moses & Singer partner.
Trump-Sater Connections
For years Sater traveled widely with Trump on his personal jet, spoke on his behalf to journalists and was filmed with Trump at public events.
Sater "was aware" the money he funneled through Moses & Singer's client trust account was stolen, court papers say. That's when Sater negotiated his fee for helping to hide the looted money,
Before assuming office Trump was entitled to 18% of the profits from the project which he worked on with Sater.
Trump signed a letter that authorized a reorganization during which millions of dollars disappeared into an Icelandic bank under the thumb of an oligarch.
Brooklyn's Russian Mobsters
The Brooklyn federal courthouse appears to be central to how Russian gangsters in Brooklyn and Long Island get away with crimes in return for funneling information to our government.
That courthouse is home to an estimated 60 to 75 double sealed criminal cases. It is common to seal criminal case files at times, but a double seal means there is not even a public docket indicating a case exists.
these cases all involve Russian-speaking mobsters who, like Bulger, have persuaded the Justice Department that they are more useful as informants and should be allowed to maintain their corrupt businesses.
A 20% actual cut in the IRS budget in the last decade makes the service struggle just to process tax returns.
The $440 million Almaty theft is connected to a larger scheme in which an estimated $10 billion was looted from the government of Kazakhstan.
In December a British court froze (https://www.rferl.org/a/british-court-freezes-billions-tied-to-alleged-kazakh-bank-theft/30980004.html) about $5 billion of the money.
Questions about whether any of that money was laundered via Trump real estate deals are being pursued in other litigation.
Trump's personal lawyer, Giuliani, has had extensive dealings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/impeachment-inquiry-puts-new-focus-on-giulianis-work-for-prominent-figures-in-ukraine/2019/10/01/b3c6d08c-e089-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html) going back at least 14 years with the shadowy and corrupt world of Kazakh petroleum interests.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sater
Shocker.
The risk factors have always been there, and this was, for me, the most likely avenue that Russian mafiosos could exercise control over him, by bank rolling him.
As he laundered money for them, he became more and more on the hook for blackmail.
My guess is that these ties eventually culminated in his complete sniveling subservience to Putin. They literally have the goods on him.
His tax returns will open that closet door, and a rather large pile of bones is going to tumble out.
boutons_deux
03-01-2021, 05:19 PM
Shocker.
The risk factors have always been there, and this was, for me, the most likely avenue that Russian mafiosos could exercise control over him, by bank rolling him.
As he laundered money for them, he became more and more on the hook for blackmail.
My guess is that these ties eventually culminated in his complete sniveling subservience to Putin. They literally have the goods on him.
His tax returns will open that closet door, and a rather large pile of bones is going to tumble out.
... and if DB will cooperate and finally admit the money they laundered and lent Trash was deposited by Russians
If the US had any balls it would have annulled HSBC's USA banking license for laundering $100Ms of drug money, and would threaten DB with the same.
boutons_deux
03-19-2021, 08:45 AM
Looks like Moscow Mitch will degrade to just ol' KY Mitch
Russian company 'suspending its investments' in Kentucky project pushed by McConnell (https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-kentucky/)
https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-kentucky
Spurs Homer
03-19-2021, 11:35 AM
Looks like Moscow Mitch will degrade to just ol' KY Mitch
Russian company 'suspending its investments' in Kentucky project pushed by McConnell (https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-kentucky/)
https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-kentucky
translation: russia/ trump/GOP/ failed in their cheating to steal a SECOND election and a LEGIT US ADMINISTRATION will now begin real vetting and investigations -
so putin called off deripaska to retreat from their GOP -assisted attack
Ball Buster
03-19-2021, 02:40 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1372741555694473217?s=21
boutons_deux
03-20-2021, 01:06 PM
Both Fox News and Russian state media are trying to get Biden to debate Putin
State-controlled media in Russia has continued to repeat the demand for a "duel,"
the Fox clips amounted to "rooting for Putin," something The New York Times' Ezra Klein agreed with, calling it (https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1372958302536040449) a "really remarkable moment in what the American Right has become."
"If you had asked me 20+ years ago if the Republican Party was going to become the Putin Cheerleading Squad, I'd have bet more likely the sun would become a giant red star first."
https://theweek.com/speedreads/973197/both-fox-news-russian-state-media-are-trying-biden-debate-putin
I thought Repugs preferring Pootin to Obama because he was a hated knitter first, and a Dem second.
Fox and Repugs ignore that Pootin is and has been AT WAR WITH USA for years. Pootin is a FUCKING ADVERSARY
koriwhat
03-20-2021, 01:31 PM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1372741555694473217?s=21
That dude Richard is a fucking reject!
Spurs Homer
03-20-2021, 03:41 PM
That dude Richard is a fucking reject!
im old enough to remember when your cult god lost by 7 million votes
and it broke joey so bad he turned religious and holey and repented like a born again phony
for about 5 minutes
hahahahahalololololol
koriwhat
03-20-2021, 04:11 PM
im old enough to remember when your cult god lost by 7 million votes
and it broke joey so bad he turned religious and holey and repented like a born again phony
for about 5 minutes
hahahahahalololololol
I'm old enough to recognize a schizo weirdo like yourself for who you are bud. Eat shit bro! :tu
koriwhat
03-20-2021, 04:12 PM
Btw LOL sticking up for that dude Richard you damn loon.
Bogie
03-20-2021, 05:45 PM
Btw LOL sticking up for that dude Richard you damn loon.
homophobic and sexist rants are not in line with your self professed leaf you turned over.
how upset would your niece be if she read something you wrote that was that ugly towards women?
spurraider21
03-20-2021, 06:01 PM
Btw LOL sticking up for that dude Richard you damn loon.
Who is Richard
koriwhat
03-20-2021, 07:28 PM
homophobic and sexist rants are not in line with your self professed leaf you turned over.
how upset would your niece be if she read something you wrote that was that ugly towards women?
You tell me considering I have no niece. You're such a dipshit bro and you pretending to know me personally is icing on the cake. Thanks for the laughs you retard!
Btw where's these homophobic and sexist rants at exactly? Lmao Using hyperbole to push a fake narrative just because Richard is your idol.
I don't hate much in life but you loser ass SJW's deserve nothing less.
boutons_deux
05-04-2021, 04:14 PM
'Tit for tat with Russia not good': Private undisclosed emails leaked from the Mueller investigation
Private, previously undisclosed emails in connection with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into former President Donald Trump have now come to light.
Buzzfeed News and CNN received a cache that included more than 300 pages of documentation from the investigation (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/flynn-bannon-manafort-private-emails-mueller).
contain details about correspondence between members of Trump's campaign as they discussed Russia.
revealed details about Flynn's conversations with Sergey Kislyak,the former Russian ambassador to the United States.
At the time, Flynn was said to be working to "contain the fallout."
https://www.rawstory.com/mueller
boutons_deux
05-04-2021, 05:12 PM
A federal judge ordered the DOJ to release a memo that
Bill Barr used to clear Trump of obstruction of justice,
saying 'it is time for the public to see' it
A federal judge ordered the DOJ to turn over an internal memo related to the Mueller investigation.
Bill Barr cited the memo as the basis for his decision to clear Trump of obstruction of justice.
"It is time for the public to see that, too," the judge said in Tuesday's ruling.
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-orders-doj-turn-over-mueller-barr-obstruction-memo-trump-2021-5
boutons_deux
05-05-2021, 07:08 AM
New ruling involving Bill Barr proves that he also lied under oath to Congress
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNjEzNTY0Ni9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzNDY0MzYxN30.wqcdtaz8j MVcZPFmzjlwAg8anVxopa1adIy2b2xbiqw/image.png?width=1200&height=675
If former Attorney General Bill Barr lied in court, then it stands to reason that his testimony to Congress was also a lie,
Barr was outed by federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson for lying to her, to the court, and to the American people about the process for investigating and considering whether or not President Donald Trump would be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.
When testifying before the U.S. Senate, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) asked Barr,
"If the special counsel (Robert Mueller) found facts sufficient to constitute obstruction of justice, would he have stated that finding?"
Barr answered, "If he had found that, I think he would state it, yes."
Mueller's report made it clear.
https://www.rawstory.com/bill-barr-2652879287
boutons_deux
05-24-2021, 03:15 PM
Trump polling data was also combined with Trump mega-donor's data-mining group Cambridge Analytica
Among the information released by federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson on Monday were documents unredacted showing that
not only did Paul Manafort hand polling data over to a known Russian intelligence agent, so did Cambridge Analytica.
the British political consulting group partly owned by right-wing donors Robert and Rebekah Mercer was also coordinating with the Russians on President Donald Trump's 2016 election.
"One thing that's new — and newsworthy — is a passage of Rick Gates' February 7, 2018 proffer in which he describes how he came
to integrate (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.190597/gov.uscourts.dcd.190597.680.0_2.pdf#page=23) Tony Fabrizio's polling with Cambridge Analytica and Data Trust,"
Bannon was part of the effort to harvest data from Facebook to better identify and target unlikely voters they could turn into Trump supporters.
Wheeler also teased that she will have more information about Cambridge Analytica soon as part of her own ongoing investigation.
https://www.rawstory.com/cambridge-analytica-russia-data-mining
aka, collusion with the Russians, financed by Mercer billionaire who also installed Bannon at Breitbart and got KAC into Trash's administration
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 04:03 PM
H
“Jeff Sessions and Sergei Kislyak,” CNN, May 24, 2017. Jeff Sessions did not disclose contacts with a Russian ambassador in a security clearance form, Justice Department sources told (https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-officials-meetings/index.html) multiple outlets in May of 2017, in what became a major, front-page scandal. Except it came out later he didn’t have to make those disclosures (https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/jeff-sessions-fbi-russian-contacts/index.html). As for the contacts themselves? Brief, public, and non-substantive (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/6-scandals-the-mueller-report-puts-to-rest-824441/)” said Robert Mueller, much later
https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 92a20c14-0889-4fb0-9e6c-b577fcc46d7f_1323x97.png (https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 92a20c14-0889-4fb0-9e6c-b577fcc46d7f_1323x97.png)https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 9733de1c-67d3-435d-851d-d1b3141423a5_621x290.png (https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 9733de1c-67d3-435d-851d-d1b3141423a5_621x290.png)
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 04:37 PM
Interesting, the media made a massive deal about this Kilimnik character. Suddenly, no one wants to talk about him anymore.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1395709981773770756?s=21
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 04:37 PM
Highlights from the interview and RCI's related reporting:
Kilimnik denies passing 2016 polling data to Russian intelligence, or any Russian for that matter. Instead, Kilimnik says he shared publicly available, general information about the 2016 American presidential race to Ukrainian clients of Manafort's in a bid to recover old debts and drum up new business. Gates told RCI that the Mueller team "cherry-picked" his testimony about Kilimnik to spread a misleading, collusion-favorable narrative. The U.S. government has never publicly produced the polling data at issue, nor any evidence that it was shared with Russia.
Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says.
Kilimnik shared documents that contradict the Special Counsel's effort to prove that he has Russian intelligence "ties." Photos and video of his Russian passport and a U.S. visa in his name, shared with RCI, undermine the Mueller report’s claim that Kilimnik visited the United States on a Russian "diplomatic passport" in 1997. To judge from the images, he travelled on a civilian passport and obtained a regular U.S. visa. The Mueller team has never produced the “diplomatic passport.”
Kilimnik denies traveling to Spain to meet Manafort in 2017. If true, this would undercut the Mueller team’s claim that Manafort lied in denying such a meeting. That denial was used to help secure a 2019 court ruling that Manafort breached a cooperation agreement. The Special Counsel never furnished evidence for the alleged Madrid encounter.
While the Treasury Department and Senate Intelligence Committee claim that Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer, no U.S. security or intelligence agency has adopted this characterization.
Kilimnik has never been charged with anything related to espionage, Russia, collusion, or the 2016 election. Instead, the Mueller team indicted Kilimnik on witness-tampering charges in a case pertaining to Manafort's lobbying work in Ukraine.
Meanwhile, the FBI's $250,000 bounty for Kilimnik is larger than most rewards it offers for the capture of violent fugitives, including those accused of child murder (https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/alexis-flores).
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 04:51 PM
Interesting, the media made a massive deal about this Kilimnik character. Suddenly, no one wants to talk about him anymore.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1395709981773770756?s=21OJ is still looking for the real killers.
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 05:12 PM
OJ is still looking for the real killers.
And, far more gullible people believe in the Russia gate conspiracy theory, then believe in Q anon.
Just asking, do you feel kind of dumb now, at least a little bit, now that you know that the Russia gate hoax is fake I mean, I know you’re not stupid, just asking.
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 05:27 PM
And, far more gullible people believe in the Russia gate conspiracy theory, then believe in Q anon.
Just asking, do you feel kind of dumb now, at least a little bit, now that you know that the Russia gate hoax is fake I mean, I know you’re not stupid, just asking.What part was fake?
Be specific. You throw around a bunch of terms about a bunch of separate issues. It makes you look stupid. Maybe you're not stupid, but it looks that way.
So lets see what you're actually talking about here.
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 05:42 PM
You throw around a bunch of terms about a bunch of separate issues.
Not true. Your flailing.
so lets see what you’re actually talking about here.
You’re a kid. You don’t reveal what news media you watch, but I would guess it’s cable news media for the left, the young turks, Sam cedar and David Packman. Something along those lines.
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 05:45 PM
Not true. Your flailing.
You’re a kid. You don’t reveal what news media you watch, but I would guess it’s cable news media for the left, the young turks, Sam cedar and David Packman. Something along those lines.:lol no. It's kind of amazing just how wrong you are.
Well, you certainly refuse to say what you're actually talking about.:tu
I've come to expect this discourse from the right. Most of the time they're just angry and don't know what they're talking about.
I expect you to try to get very personal soon, abandoning any pretense of discussion.
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 05:50 PM
:lol no. It's kind of amazing just how wrong you are.
Well, you certainly refuse to say what you're actually talking about.:tu
I've come to expect this discourse from the right. Most of the time they're just angry and don't know what they're talking about.
It’s weird, because you sound and act like an establishment Democrat.
I just enjoy the topic, post information about it that disproves peoples conspiracy theories. Then people get mad, and continue to believe things that are untrue anyway. People that consider themselves hip on politics, and know how things work in Washington, etc... I find it interesting.
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 05:53 PM
It’s weird, because you sound and act like an establishment Democrat.
I probably am, but labels.... You're certainly dead wrong about the rest.
I just enjoy the topic, post information about it that disproves peoples conspiracy theories. Then people get mad, and continue to believe things that are untrue anyway. People that consider themselves hip on politics, and know how things work in Washington, etc... I find it interesting.
I said from the start I didn't think Trump colluded with Russians.
He's just not very smart.
The rest was a matter of investigation I'm glad took place because it needed to happen.
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 05:58 PM
I said from the start I didn't think Trump colluded with Russians.
You also went around calling people stupid for saying News media was reporting false information about the Russians.
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 06:00 PM
You also went around calling people stupid for saying News media was reporting false information about the Russians.Yes.
I will stand by my characterization if people are too stupid to understand how media work.
Haven't seen you say much about the right wing media's conspiracies. Maybe you could direct me to some of those criticisms of yours. Especially their current conspiracies.
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 06:21 PM
Yes.
I will stand by my characterization if people are too stupid to understand how media work.
Haven't seen you say much about the right wing media's conspiracies. Maybe you could direct me to some of those criticisms of yours. Especially their current conspiracies.
Why? Every major news source has reported multiple false stories about the Russians.
Tha' fuck would you stand by that?
You need read a couple books. Listen Liberal by Thomas Frank, and Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman.
Bogie
05-24-2021, 06:29 PM
Why? Every major news source has reported multiple false stories about the Russians.
Tha' fuck would you stand by that?
You need read a couple books. Listen Liberal by Thomas Frank, and Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman.
yikes you just admitted what everyone already knew. You’re a frightened little parrot
Bogie
05-24-2021, 06:30 PM
You know he’s not going to ever call out any rw conspiracy nonsense. It’s what provides his opinions
spurraider21
05-24-2021, 06:38 PM
Why? Every major news source has reported multiple false stories about the Russians.
Tha' fuck would you stand by that?
You need read a couple books. Listen Liberal by Thomas Frank, and Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman.
lol no chance youve read manufacturing consent. probably just heard other people reference it.
like conservatives with 1984
ChumpDumper
05-24-2021, 06:45 PM
Why? Every major news source has reported multiple false stories about the Russians.
Tha' fuck would you stand by that?Sources are sources.
Judgment is judgment.
Corrections are corrections.
This stuff isn't difficult to understand in theory.
Carrying them out, moreso.
Now, which right wing conspiracies and media have you dragged lately?
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 06:57 PM
Sources are sources.
Judgment is judgment.
Corrections are corrections.
This stuff isn't difficult.
Now, which right wing conspiracies and media have you dragged lately?It's ok to have a political orientation and takes that disclose that.
But for some reason, there are very few posters here willing to say they support a side. On the right, all libertarian freethinkers and classical liberals, there's hardly a Republican or a declared Trumpist to be found here. Yet many posters, very many, back the GOP's bullshit right down the line.
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 07:41 PM
Federal judge Amy Berman Jackson unredacted/unsealed the case against Manafort. Most of it, anyway.
1396842711957884930
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 08:17 PM
Barr memo on Mueller report coming out of the woodwork soon
1396994978988056580
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 08:19 PM
In a ruling issued this week (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.207679/gov.uscourts.dcd.207679.27.0_1.pdf), U.S. District for the District of Columbia Judge Amy Berman Jackson said the memo should be released because it did not fit the exemption for “deliberative” documents under the law.
In so doing, she called Barr’s credibility into question, and criticized the process under which he quickly issued a summary (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-conclusions-trump-congress-attorney-general-william-barr-n986611) of the Mueller report that plaintiffs said appeared designed to “create a narrative to counter the special counsel’s findings and cast the President in the most positive light possible.”
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 10:12 PM
lol no chance youve read manufacturing consent. probably just heard other people reference it.
like conservatives with 1984
Oh, you’ve read it. What’d you think about it?
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 10:17 PM
interesting, Merrick Garland opposes Judge Jackson
1397024814905401350
spurraider21
05-24-2021, 11:09 PM
Oh, you’ve read it. What’d you think about it?
read it during college. not recently, and dont currently own a copy. i thought it was outstanding. im actually glad you noted Herman as the author, most people these days attribute it all to chomsky when referencing it
Ball Buster
05-24-2021, 11:27 PM
read it during college. not recently, and dont currently own a copy. i thought it was outstanding. im actually glad you noted Herman as the author, most people these days attribute it all to chomsky when referencing it
:tu
Winehole23
05-25-2021, 09:20 AM
Is the judge trying to moot the appeal?
spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) vy65 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11399) ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2PT-c2VkAAQAYC?format=jpg&name=large
Winehole23
05-25-2021, 09:27 AM
Is the judge trying to moot the appeal?
spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) vy65 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11399) ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2PT-c2VkAAQAYC?format=jpg&name=largeah, she's releasing her opinion about the OLC memo, not the memo itself.
To be clear, the minute order is just a skeleton sketch of what happened during the meeting. The gist of her ruling, though, is that she's ordering the unsealing of her May 25 order -- as you say. From what little I've seen, her order does release the memo itself.
Ball Buster
05-25-2021, 11:07 AM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1397190718435717121?s=21
ChumpDumper
05-25-2021, 11:32 AM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1397190718435717121?s=21You ever get around to remembering which right wing conspiracies and media companies you went after this hard?
Adam Lambert
05-25-2021, 11:41 AM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1397190718435717121?s=21
Rachel Maddow averages 455K viewers per night.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rachel-maddow-ratings-slide-msnbc
Parler averaged 1.4MM visits per day in January.
https://www.similarweb.com/website/parler.com/
Let's quit pretending conspiracy chat rooms are any more "fringe" than traditional cable.
boutons_deux
05-27-2021, 10:38 PM
New Russian cyberattack targets human rights orgs and government agencies in the US
Microsoft on Thursday revealed a new cyberattack by the same group, Nobelium.
targeting government agencies, think tanks, consultants, and non-governmental organizations.
This wave of attacks targeted approximately 3,000 email accounts at more than 150 different organizations,"
At least a quarter of the targeted organizations were involved in international development, humanitarian, and human rights work.
Nobelium, originating from Russia, is the same actor behind the attacks on SolarWinds customers in 2020.
https://www.rawstory.com/nobelium-cyberattack
Any of you RWNJ / Trash fellators thinks Pootin doesn't know what his forces are doing?
boutons_deux
06-05-2021, 09:05 AM
Top 5 reasons Don McGahn's testimony on Trump obstruction of justice is important
Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner on Friday offered his analysis of the obstruction of justice investigation into former President Donald Trump.
the top five reasons why Don McGahn's testimony before Congress today was actually pretty important,"
"Number five is the substance of what Don McGahn had to say.
Well, he said Donald Trump directed him to fire Bob Mueller — to fire the man who was investigating Donald Trump for possible criminal activity."
"Number four, it's not hearsay," he said. "That's not just something recorded in the Mueller report, that is a first-hand, sworn account, under oath. That is a transcript of Don McGahn that can be used in a court of law in any number of ways, so that is important."
"Number three, the information was related by Don McGahn, former White House counsel who — regardless of what you think of his politics — is generally regarded as a truth teller. So it's coming from a credible source," he said.
"Reason number two, why Don McGahn's congressional testimony today was important: because Bill Barr can't spin it," he said.
"He can't lie about it, he can't cover it up, the way he spun, lied about, and covered up what was in the Mueller report."
"And the number one reason why today's congressional testimony by Don McGahn about Donald Trump's obstruction of justice is important, is because
Congress will be able to use it to make a criminal referral of Donald Trump to the Department of Justice,"
https://www.rawstory.com/don-mcgahn-obstruction-of-justice
boutons_deux
06-10-2021, 07:58 PM
Trump still loves Putin —
and says he trusts him more than US intel
https://www.alternet.org/2021/06/trump-putin/
boutons_deux
09-21-2021, 12:59 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242227837_5560392814053727_8957631810067215233_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_lVmg0YhebcAX_KMHwC&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=8d486b2b13fa5652316ab5393b03b995&oe=616F0A66
boutons_deux
09-28-2021, 06:21 PM
A former Trump official explains why Russia found America ripe for meddling
article from Fiona Hill (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-09-27/kremlins-strange-victory) in Foreign Affairs.
disturbing, though, is Hill's appraisal of why Russia found America ripe for meddling:
Putin realized that despite the
lofty rhetoric that flowed from Washington about democratic values and liberal norms, :lol
beneath the surface, the United States was beginning to resemble his own country:
a place where self-dealing elites had hollowed out vital institutions and
where alienated, frustrated people were increasingly open to populist and authoritarian appeals.
The fire was already burning; all Putin had to do was pour on some gasoline. [...]
The polarization of American society has become a national security threat,
acting as a barrier to the collective action necessary for combating catastrophes and thwarting external dangers.
Hill's essay identifies deeper flaws in our polity that made Trump possible and offers possible solutions. "Democracy is not self-repairing," she warns. "It requires constant attention."
https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1005403/the-deeper-problem-exposed-amid-trump-tell-all-gossip
boutons_deux
01-05-2022, 03:03 PM
How the U.S. Government Was Sold to a Hedge Fund
Evil genius billionaire, Robert Mercer, and his cohorts at the Renaissance Technologies hedge fund reached a $7 billion settlement (https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/renaissance-executives-pay-about-7-bln-settle-tax-probe-wsj-2021-09-02/) with the U.S. Government in September after their failed takeover of the presidential election process.
After Trump got elected, Mercer got everything he wanted. The IRS case against Renaissance was paused until Joe Biden was inaugurated.
No one who gave significant funds to Trump faced prosecution from his “Justice” Department or from Charles Rettig, his hand-picked IRS commissioner. Rettig owned over $1.1 million in Trump apartments (https://theweek.com/speedreads/833454/trumps-handpicked-irs-chief-irs-legal-counsel-both-have-ties-trump-businesses) in Hawaii.
Criminal institutions and individuals poured money down on Trump, in effect paying to halt federal enforcement of actions against them.
Cambridge Analytica is a 2013 offshoot of SCL Group, a nation-state-as-a-service company providing everything aspiring dictators need to take control of a population.
Founded in 1993, SCL Group has assisted Moamar Qaddafi in Libya,
the UAE in its efforts against U.S. ally Qatar, and
to suppress student unrest in Indonesia.
A recent client, Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), relied on SCL to conduct focus groups and create Vision 2030 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/31/business/cambridge-analytica-scl-group-saudi-arabia.html),
described as “a manual for the royals to manage popular sentiment by figuring out where they should loosen their grip.”
Cambridge Analytica specialized in gathering data for psychographic profiling
app granted access to all the Facebook profiles of all the “friends” of those who took the quiz, resulting in Cambridge Analytica scraping and downloading an estimated 87 million Facebook profiles.
Mercer was a long time friend of Nigel Farage and offered Cambridge Analytica’s services for the Brexit referendum.
The “Leave Campaign’s” Facebook ad buys were directed by yet another Mercer entity, AggregateIQ, supposedly based on analysis of the stolen profiles,
Mercer did not hesitate to ply the Orange Beast with money and staff. Kellyane Conway, Steve Bannon, John Bolton, Betsy DeVos and Mike Pence came through the Mercer pipeline.
The Trump campaign was compelled to use Cambridge Analytica for data analysis.
Robert Mercer had no qualms about teaming up with Vladimir Putin (https://medium.com/@q502/robert-mercer-money-launderer-for-vladimir-putin-8c596cd3d930) or Mohammed bin Salman (https://www.wral.com/secretive-contractor-helped-saudi-arabia-steer-reform-plans/17593245/?comment_order=forward) to destabilize the E.U. and forestall any global government network that would interfere with his arbitrage operation.
Putin and Mercer teamed up during the 2016 U.S. presidential elections to create and distribute disinformation designed to destabilise the United States.
In July, 2016, Cambridge Analytica reached out to WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, to offer assistance distributing Hillary Clinton’s stolen emails.
After the election, Cambridge Analytica made a cryptocurrency “payment” to WikiLeaks (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/06/cambridge-analytica-brittany-kaiser-julian-assange-wikileaks), according to the person who delivered it, senior employee Brittany Kaiser.
(https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)The Washington Post reports Mercer has made his fist 6-figure donation to Trump’s re-election campaign (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-megadonor-robert-mercer-made-his-first-six-figure-donation-to-trumps-reelection-new-filing-shows/2020/04/16/b4dac5cc-7f90-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html) while his partner at Renaissance, James Simons, is plowing money into influencing the Biden team (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/megadonor-james-simons-hires-new-team-of-lobbyists-to-influence-bidens-washington.html#:~:text=Simons%20founded%20New%20Y ork%2Dbased,to%20super%20PACs%20backing%20Biden.).
As long as there are hedge fund billionaires with tax problems, they’ll be looking to hire someone for president who will forestall collection.
As long as corporations face fines and prosecution for blatantly illegal acts that demonstrably harm the public (https://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=20-P13-00008&segmentID=7), they will be looking to hire a president who will look the other way.
(https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)As long as fossil fuel companies hold reserves, they’ll want a president who will prevent those reserves from becoming worthless.
As long as pharmaceutical, hospital, and medical insurance CEOs make 7-, 8- and 9-figure compensation packages, they will cheerfully spend millions to keep their lucrative gigs going.
(https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)Look how Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are taking millions (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/sinema-manchin-republican-donors-1260999/) from corporate interests to act against the interests of their own constituents.
The money is so good, they’re willing to sabotage their own political futures in exchange for vast personal fortunes and family wealth.
(https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)The goal of Dark Money is to privatize all government services.
All of them. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Housing, Weather, Space, Agriculture, EPA, NIH, CDC — all of it sold off or leased to hedge funds to operate “more efficiently”
than the federal government.
All these essential services will be taken over by mobsters, milked of any value, and dumped on the next administration, leaving the public on the hook for any and all liabilities.
(https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)Erik Prince and traitor Michael Flynn are building a private CIA and mercenary military force similar to Prince’s earlier Blackwater Group.
The new company, called Emerdata (https://lobelog.com/erik-prince-and-big-data/), is also the successor to Cambridge Analytica. Robert Mercer is a director of the new company,
along with disgraced Cambridge Analytica CEO, Alexander Nix.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/12/26/how-the-u-s-government-was-sold-to-a-hedge-fund/)
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Jared Kushner In His Own Words On The Trump Data Operation The FBI Is Reportedly Probing
"We brought in Cambridge Analytica."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2017/05/26/jared-kushner-in-his-own-words-on-the-trump-data-operation-the-fbi-is-reportedly-probing
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POLITICS (https://www.cnbc.com/politics/)Trump campaign chief Manafort’s associate Kilimnik gave Russia 2016 election strategy, polling
A longtime associate of former President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign chief Paul Manafort gave Russian intelligence agencies “sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy” during the election that year, the U.S. Treasury Department said.
Manafort’s associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, “also sought to promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the department said Thursday as the Biden administration announced new sanctions on Russia, Kilimnik and others.
Those sanctions relate in part to Russia’s alleged effort to affect the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-employee-kilimnik-gave-russia-election-data.html
boutons_deux
05-11-2022, 12:22 PM
NOT a fucking HOAX, Pootin had compromised lots of amreican, incluidng NRA
Michigan Lawyer Who Sought To Overturn Biden's Victory Tied To Russian Spy
G. Kline Preston IV,
worked with a conservative legal group in Michigan as part of an effort to overturn the election results in the state, where Joe Biden defeated former President Donald Trump by a slim margin (https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/michigan/) in 2020.
One of the Russian nationals Preston is connected to is Maria Butina, an unregistered foreign agent who infiltrated (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/02/nra-russia-maria-butina-putin-crimea/) the National Rifle Association as part of a Russian effort (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/politics/butina-guilty.html) to influence conservatives.
In 2018, The Daily Beast uncovered (https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-confederate-birther-introduced-maria-butinas-handler-to-nra-chief) that it was Preston who first introduced Butina's handler, Alexander Torshin, a former Russian parliamentarian who was sanctioned (https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0338) by the Treasury Department, to David Keen, the former president of the NRA.
According to their reporting, Preston is a "friend and confidant" of Torshin. In (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-republican-right-found-allies-in-russia/2017/04/30/e2d83ff6-29d3-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7e97a3fd0e3b) 2011 (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/inside-the-decade-long-russian-campaign-to-infiltrate-the-nra-and-help-elect-trump-630054/) — the same year he introduced Torshin to Keene — Preston traveled to Russia to serve as a foreign elections observer.
Preston also told (https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/03/20/russia-nashville-lawyer-marsha-blackburn/431448002/) The Tennessean in 2018 that Torshin "was interested in the NRA so I hooked him up."
https://www.nationalmemo.com/michigan-lawyer-who-sought-to-overturn-biden-s-victory-tied-to-russian-spy/particle-1
boutons_deux
06-05-2022, 09:34 PM
Carlson admits Russia got Trump elected in 2016.
He says America getting the European Union to reject Russian oil is payback for Russia getting Trump elected.
boutons_deux
08-17-2022, 10:37 PM
Team Putin Airs Insane Offer to ‘Help’ America and ‘Save’ Trump
The gracious proposals include placing Donald Trump under the protection of Moscow’s security agency—
and moving homeless American children to Russia.
some state media bullhorns to suggest that America’s “failing” democracy should be placed under Russia’s wing.
“We need to officially tackle the American democracy, American society, American economy,” Evgeny Popov, the host of state TV show 60 Minutes
[“There are more homeless children in America than anywhere else in the world.
These are the official statistics.
There aren’t that many impoverished neighborhoods, with medieval levels of poverty, not seen anywhere else—not even in Somalia,”
“This campaign of fomenting hatred in certain circles of American society against Donald Trump
can later be converted into a campaign of the political assassination of Donald Trump,
at the hands of those who will carry out the orders of the influential circles, which aren’t interested in his return to power.
This is a bad scenario, we know the practice of political assassinations in the United States of America,” Korotchenko said.
Popov chimed in: “We should ask [Russia’s] Federal Security Service to start protecting our Donald.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-airs-insane-offer-to-help-america-and-save-donald-trump
daboom1
08-17-2022, 10:39 PM
Team Putin Airs Insane Offer to ‘Help’ America and ‘Save’ Trump
The gracious proposals include placing Donald Trump under the protection of Moscow’s security agency—
and moving homeless American children to Russia.
some state media bullhorns to suggest that America’s “failing” democracy should be placed under Russia’s wing.
“We need to officially tackle the American democracy, American society, American economy,” Evgeny Popov, the host of state TV show 60 Minutes
[“There are more homeless children in America than anywhere else in the world.
These are the official statistics.
There aren’t that many impoverished neighborhoods, with medieval levels of poverty, not seen anywhere else—not even in Somalia,”
“This campaign of fomenting hatred in certain circles of American society against Donald Trump
can later be converted into a campaign of the political assassination of Donald Trump,
at the hands of those who will carry out the orders of the influential circles, which aren’t interested in his return to power.
This is a bad scenario, we know the practice of political assassinations in the United States of America,” Korotchenko said.
Popov chimed in: “We should ask [Russia’s] Federal Security Service to start protecting our Donald.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-airs-insane-offer-to-help-america-and-save-donald-trump
An alliance we can rally behind :tu
boutons_deux
08-20-2022, 02:11 PM
Court orders release of DOJ memo on Trump obstruction in Mueller probe
A federal appeals court has ordered the release of a secret Justice Department memo discussing whether President Donald Trump obstructed the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
a lower court judge (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/barr-memo-russia-investigation/2021/05/05/c5d0c286-ada8-11eb-ab4c-986555a1c511_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_4), Amy Berman Jackson, who last year accused the Justice Department of dishonesty in its justifications for keeping the memo hidden.
the government “created a misimpression” and could not stop release under the Freedom of Information Act.
A redacted version was released last year (https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20790308/doj-memo.pdf) but left under seal the legal and factual analysis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/19/barr-memo-court-mueller-release-russia
Pootin helping Trash was no hoax. See the Senate report. The truth will come out and all y'all rwnj assholes, rw hate media, Fox, Repugs gonna eat shit
Spurs Homer
08-20-2022, 04:38 PM
Court orders release of DOJ memo on Trump obstruction in Mueller probe
A federal appeals court has ordered the release of a secret Justice Department memo discussing whether President Donald Trump obstructed the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
a lower court judge (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/barr-memo-russia-investigation/2021/05/05/c5d0c286-ada8-11eb-ab4c-986555a1c511_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_4), Amy Berman Jackson, who last year accused the Justice Department of dishonesty in its justifications for keeping the memo hidden.
the government “created a misimpression” and could not stop release under the Freedom of Information Act.
A redacted version was released last year (https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20790308/doj-memo.pdf)but left under seal the legal and factual analysis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/19/barr-memo-court-mueller-release-russia
Pootin helping Trash was no hoax. See the Senate report. The truth will come out and all y'all rwnj assholes, rw hate media, Fox, Repugs gonna eat shit
They ALL know its not a hoax - people like TSA and hater are just russian trolls spreading russian propaganda -
they are trained to repeat the "russia hoax" line because this is how propaganda and lies take root and pretty soon, even regular folks start repeating it
in other words- useful idiots doing what they are programmed to do...
boutons_deux
08-22-2022, 11:07 PM
Maddow asks Congress how they'll respond to court saying Bill Barr lied about Trump's guilt in Russia probe
the court decision last week that former Attorney General Bob Barr lied in his memo about the Russia investigation.
the Office of Legal Counsel that penned a "policy" that a sitting president can't be indicted while in office.
But according to Barr, that OLC opinion didn't matter,
because special counsel Robert Mueller concluded that Donald Trump was innocent.
The three-judge panel of the Federal Appeals Court ruled that was false.
Mueller did detail in the second part of his report, however, is that
there were at least ten instances of obstruction of justice by Donald Trump.
He then gave that list to Congress and testified to Congress about it.
https://www.rawstory.com/bill-barr-lied-about-trump/
Pelosi sniffed that there was nothing there. No impeachment. Fuck Pelosi
boutons_deux
08-22-2022, 11:09 PM
G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia
A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President
Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry.
laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians,
including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.
The Russian government disrupted an American election (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/04/us/election-results) to help Mr. Trump (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/trump-post-presidency-influence.html) become president,
Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and
some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html)[
Spurs Homer
08-23-2022, 03:49 PM
G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia
A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President
Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry.
laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians,
including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.
The Russian government disrupted an American election (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/04/us/election-results) to help Mr. Trump (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/trump-post-presidency-influence.html) become president,
Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and
some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html)[
been saying this since day one and we STILL have no UNredacted mueller report
im sure in 10 years the country will finally read HISTORICAL accounts of how russia INSTALLED trump in office but useful idiots will have already convinced other useful idiots that it was all a hoax
and amerikkkans are too lazy and stupid to save their own democracy
been saying this since day one and we STILL have no UNredacted mueller report
im sure in 10 years the country will finally read HISTORICAL accounts of how russia INSTALLED trump in office but useful idiots will have already convinced other useful idiots that it was all a hoax
and amerikkkans are too lazy and stupid to save their own democracy
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
:bobo
Winehole23
08-23-2022, 06:45 PM
TSA quoting from the Barr summary, like a dutiful minion
Spurs Homer
08-23-2022, 08:00 PM
lol
useful idiot TSA reports for duty! ^
TSA quoting from the Barr summary, like a dutiful minion
Those aren't from Barr's summary they are straight from Mueller's report dipshit. Why lie about it?
lol
useful idiot TSA reports for duty! ^
lol
useful idiot Spurs Homer believed useful idiot Winehole's lies :lol
Spurs Homer
08-24-2022, 03:52 PM
lol
useful idiot Spurs Homer believed useful idiot Winehole's lies :lol
were you at the capitol jan 6?
TSA quoting from the Barr summary, like a dutiful minion
You going to apologize or continue to hide?
Spurs Homer
08-25-2022, 01:17 PM
The world already knew Barr was nothing but a corrupt trumper who never had a doubt he was going to cover and lie for the criminal traitor.
The unredacted memo is no shock to anyone who paid attention.
ChumpDumper
08-25-2022, 01:31 PM
You going to apologize or continue to hide?:lol You're still hiding from me.
The world already knew Barr was nothing but a corrupt trumper who never had a doubt he was going to cover and lie for the criminal traitor.
The unredacted memo is no shock to anyone who paid attention.
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or cons uted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
Spurs Homer
08-25-2022, 05:28 PM
Little scared bitch
were you at the capitol jan 6th?
Little scared bitch
were you at the capitol jan 6th?
Of course not you stupid fuck.
Spurs Homer
08-25-2022, 05:58 PM
Of course not you stupid fuck.
thanks jonathan
fucking traitor scum
Th'Pusher
08-25-2022, 06:57 PM
Don’t act like you’ve actually read the report. You were spoon fed the parts that “exonerated” your god while disregarding all of the crimes he committed that Mueller teed up.
DarrinS
08-25-2022, 07:08 PM
Don’t act like you’ve actually read the report. You were spoon fed the parts that “exonerated” your god while disregarding all of the crimes he committed that Mueller teed up.
List them
Th'Pusher
08-25-2022, 08:53 PM
List them
“Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”
That’s obstruction of justice.
I can go on…
Ef-man
08-25-2022, 10:45 PM
"At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016, the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions
(hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian
Army (GRU) carried out these operations."
"At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016, the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions
(hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian
Army (GRU) carried out these operations."
Had the FBI raided her home, that material Russia got might have been made secure.
DarrinS
08-25-2022, 11:01 PM
“Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”
That’s obstruction of justice.
I can go on…
Dude recused himself immediately
go on
Ef-man
08-25-2022, 11:03 PM
Had the FBI raided her home, that material Russia got might have been made secure.
Shit for brains, had the russians hacked her server, they would have posted the information to further embarrass her, else, why go through the trouble. Idiot!
ElNono
08-25-2022, 11:38 PM
Dude recused himself immediately
That's immaterial to that point.
Th'Pusher
08-25-2022, 11:40 PM
Dude recused himself immediately
go on
I don’t think you understand what I posted. The dude recused himself immediately and Trump was working through Lewendoski, who wasn’t even part of the government, to get Sessions to renege his recusal in an effort to limit the scope of the investigation.
Mueller laid out multiple obstruction of justice charges, none of which were pursued. It’s fine. The collusion wasn’t there, but the obstruction of justice was clearly defined in his report. I’m not interested in rehashing it with a middle aged drunk who can’t grasp basic concepts. But let’s not pretend like the report was total exoneration. That was the Bill Barr whitewash you (and TSA) bought hook, line and sinker…like a good democrat hating republican is expected to do.
Th'Pusher
08-25-2022, 11:41 PM
That's immaterial to that point.
And here comes the most patient man on the internet willing to explain it to the local drunk. Have fun. You have much more patience than me.
:hattip
RandomGuy
08-26-2022, 09:01 AM
I don’t think you understand what I posted. The dude recused himself immediately and Trump was working through Lewendoski, who wasn’t even part of the government, to get Sessions to renege his recusal in an effort to limit the scope of the investigation.
Mueller laid out multiple obstruction of justice charges, none of which were pursued. It’s fine. The collusion wasn’t there, but the obstruction of justice was clearly defined in his report. I’m not interested in rehashing it with a middle aged drunk who can’t grasp basic concepts. But let’s not pretend like the report was total exoneration. That was the Bill Barr whitewash you (and TSA) bought hook, line and sinker…like a good democrat hating republican is expected to do.
Anyone who has actually read it, and isn't a total hack for the GOP has reached that conclusion.
Your problem in trying to argue this though, is that the basis of modern conservatism is dishonesty, violence, and greed, in whatever order of priority allows them to hold/keep power. Dishonesty is sometimes used as a tool to further greed, and sometimes its vice versa. Often they seem to engage in pure dishonesty simply for the fun of it, although often to jack off to the thought they made libtards upset.
Good luck with Darrin. he still thinks climate change is made up, and has demonstrated he does not care what is real or not, just what makes him feel better about himself in some way.
Spurs Homer
08-26-2022, 10:31 AM
I don’t think you understand what I posted. The dude recused himself immediately and Trump was working through Lewendoski, who wasn’t even part of the government, to get Sessions to renege his recusal in an effort to limit the scope of the investigation.
Mueller laid out multiple obstruction of justice charges, none of which were pursued. It’s fine. The collusion wasn’t there, but the obstruction of justice was clearly defined in his report. I’m not interested in rehashing it with a middle aged drunk who can’t grasp basic concepts. But let’s not pretend like the report was total exoneration. That was the Bill Barr whitewash you (and TSA) bought hook, line and sinker…like a good democrat hating republican is expected to do.
lets not give the propaganda more fuel
the conspiracy and collusion was there-
they just decided it wasnt there BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
which means they CONSPIRED AND COLLUDED like the traitors they are
but muellers team did not want to say the offenses were BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
every time someone spreads the propaganda “mueller did NOT find any conspiracy/collusion”
they just help the traitors to continue to downplay and defend the unpatriotic traitors to the usa
Th'Pusher
08-26-2022, 10:34 AM
Anyone who has actually read it, and isn't a total hack for the GOP has reached that conclusion.
Your problem in trying to argue this though, is that the basis of modern conservatism is dishonesty, violence, and greed, in whatever order of priority allows them to hold/keep power. Dishonesty is sometimes used as a tool to further greed, and sometimes its vice versa. Often they seem to engage in pure dishonesty simply for the fun of it, although often to jack off to the thought they made libtards upset.
Good luck with Darrin. he still thinks climate change is made up, and has demonstrated he does not care what is real or not, just what makes him feel better about himself in some way.
Oh I’m done with Darrin. His response that Sessions refused himself immediately made it obvious he knew nothing of what was in the report.
But that’s Darrin. I should have simply ignored his request.
Winehole23
08-26-2022, 10:37 AM
Those aren't from Barr's summary they are straight from Mueller's report dipshit. Why lie about it?No lie, I goofed.
Here's your likely source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tag/donald-trump?source=%2Fopinion%2Fcolumnists%2Fbyron-york-mueller-trump-and-two-years-of-bullshit
I regret the mistake, but stand behind the statement that you're a lockstep MAGA minion.
:bobo
DarrinS
08-26-2022, 10:51 AM
Oh I’m done with Darrin. His response that Sessions refused himself immediately made it obvious he knew nothing of what was in the report.
But that’s Darrin. I should have simply ignored his request.
:lol
Anyone who has actually read it, and isn't a total hack for the GOP has reached that conclusion.
Congratulations on being one of the top 3 posters pushing the Russian collusion hoax :lmao
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
Th'Pusher
08-26-2022, 11:52 AM
:lol
What’s funnier than my typo is your inability to come up with any sort of rebuttal. You’re a willingly ignorant man and I feel sorry for you and your family.
lets not give the propaganda more fuel
the conspiracy and collusion was there-
they just decided it wasnt there BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
which means they CONSPIRED AND COLLUDED like the traitors they are
but muellers team did not want to say the offenses were BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT
every time someone spreads the propaganda “mueller did NOT find any conspiracy/collusion”
they just help the traitors to continue to downplay and defend the unpatriotic traitors to the usa
Mueller did NOT find any conspiracy/collusion.
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
Th'Pusher
08-26-2022, 11:58 AM
Congratulations on being one of the top 3 posters pushing the Russian collusion hoax :lmao
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
That’s not total exoneration and inclusive of everything in the report. Why do you feel it necessary to narrow the conversation to just the Washington Examiner talking points?
Mueller laid out multiple obstruction of justice charges, none of which were pursued. It’s fine. The collusion wasn’t there, but the obstruction of justice was clearly defined in his report. I’m not interested in rehashing it with a middle aged drunk who can’t grasp basic concepts. But let’s not pretend like the report was total exoneration. That was the Bill Barr whitewash you (and TSA) bought hook, line and sinker…like a good democrat hating republican is expected to do.
The collusion with Russia was the only thing that mattered and Trump was totally exonerated concerning that.
"The Special Counsel's obstruction theory would not only be novel, but, based on his own analysis, it would also be unusual because Volume I of the Special Counsel's Report is conclusive: that the evidence developed “was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign [including the President] conspired or coordinated with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.” Given that conclusion, the evidence does not establish a crime or criminal conspiracy involving the President toward which any obstruction or attempted obstruction by the President was directed. It would be rare for federal prosecutors to bring an obstruction prosecution that did not itself arise out of a proceeding related to a separate crime."
Th'Pusher
08-26-2022, 12:14 PM
The collusion with Russia was the only thing that mattered and Trump was totally exonerated concerning that.
"The Special Counsel's obstruction theory would not only be novel, but, based on his own analysis, it would also be unusual because Volume I of the Special Counsel's Report is conclusive: that the evidence developed “was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign [including the President] conspired or coordinated with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.” Given that conclusion, the evidence does not establish a crime or criminal conspiracy involving the President toward which any obstruction or attempted obstruction by the President was directed. It would be rare for federal prosecutors to bring an obstruction prosecution that did not itself arise out of a proceeding related to a separate crime."
I disagree. Cute you didn’t cite your quote. You must be embarrassed
I disagree. Cute you didn’t cite your quote. You must be embarrassed
Embarrassed about what? I thought it was obvious where the quote came from.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22187584-barr-unredacted-memo
Th'Pusher
08-26-2022, 12:41 PM
Embarrassed about what? I thought it was obvious where the quote came from.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22187584-barr-unredacted-memo
See my Bill Barr whitewash comment upstream.
Spurs Homer
08-26-2022, 02:20 PM
Mueller did NOT find any conspiracy/collusion.
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
here you go traitor - if you care to know facts...you don't
https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
Shit for brains, had the russians hacked her server, they would have posted the information to further embarrass her, else, why go through the trouble. Idiot!
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).
Had the FBI been on top of this earlier they could have prevented this gross mismanagement of classified material.
:lol
His hand rejected his penis.
No lie, I goofed.
Here's your likely source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tag/donald-trump?source=%2Fopinion%2Fcolumnists%2Fbyron-york-mueller-trump-and-two-years-of-bullshit
I regret the mistake, but stand behind the statement that you're a lockstep MAGA minion.
:bobo
So regardless the truth or falsity of your claim, you're still right.
What's it like?
Ef-man
08-26-2022, 11:25 PM
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).
Had the FBI been on top of this earlier they could have prevented this gross mismanagement of classified material.
So you have no evidence that her server was hacked.
Your capitulation is accepted. :tu
So you have no evidence that her server was hacked.
Your capitulation is accepted. :tu
The FBI director said the lack of direct evidence that Clinton’s server was successfully hacked by “any foreign power or other hostile actors” doesn’t mean it wasn’t. “[G]iven the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence,” Comey said. “We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account.”
DarrinS
08-27-2022, 01:03 AM
What’s funnier than my typo is your inability to come up with any sort of rebuttal. You’re a willingly ignorant man and I feel sorry for you and your family.
Hopefully you'll be okay
:lmao
ChumpDumper
08-27-2022, 01:07 AM
The FBI director said the lack of direct evidence that Clinton’s server was successfully hacked by “any foreign power or other hostile actors” doesn’t mean it wasn’t. “[G]iven the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence,” Comey said. “We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account.”
Hopefully you'll be okay
:lmao
Ef-man
08-27-2022, 01:36 AM
The FBI director said the lack of direct evidence that Clinton’s server was successfully hacked by “any foreign power or other hostile actors” doesn’t mean it wasn’t. “[G]iven the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence,” Comey said. “We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account.”
So again, you cite no evidence, just conjecture, that her server was hacked.
Your capitulation is accepted. :tu
Spurs Homer
08-27-2022, 09:52 AM
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).
Had the FBI been on top of this earlier they could have prevented this gross mismanagement of classified material.
and....
after knowing all this ^ some of it even true...
your cult leader's excuse for putting himself in his current predicament is what?
So again, you cite no evidence, just conjecture, that her server was hacked.
Your capitulation is accepted. :tu
Comey obviously felt it important enough to address the nation.
Likely cost her the WH, but there's no direct evidence of it :lol
and....
after knowing all this ^ some of it even true...
your cult leader's excuse for putting himself in his current predicament is what?
Keep up, faggot.
Ef-man
08-27-2022, 12:12 PM
Comey obviously felt it important enough to address the nation.
Likely cost her the WH, but there's no direct evidence of it :lol
Chuncko: “Blah, blah, blah, blah, no evidence, blah, blah, blah, blah.”
(No substance; appealing to authority; all bloviating, par.)
Spurs Homer
08-27-2022, 04:11 PM
Keep up, faggot.
...sez the guy fellating his orange cult leader 24/7
boutons_deux
01-05-2023, 01:55 PM
How Russian Agents Have Perverted Our Politics:
A View From 1000 Feet
Well, as we should all know by now, the days of intelligence agents passing secrets in the night are long gone.
Now the spies are right out in the open.
And that’s the other thing we haven’t done.
We haven’t stood back and looked at recent political events from an overall perspective.
We’ve gotten lost in the rapidly and endlessly unfolding scandals of you-know-who,
buried in the details of this secret meeting or that illegal campaign contribution or that questionable character being invited into the Oval Office, no less,
for meetings that have gone all the way from trying to get the FBI Director to look the other way and
go easy on one of what would become several White House felons,
to out-and-out plots to use the military to seize election machinery and re-run an election, which was not in effect a coup, but a coup in progress.
Almost all the unusual events in our recent political life have involved Russians,
and as we will see, they go back much further than we usually recall.
Trump would waltz Kislyak and his boss the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, past all the White House handlers and the Russian media –
but not the American press pool covering the White House, who were banned from the event –
right into the Oval Office where,
it would later be reported, he passed some kind of top secret information to them about Israel and assured the two that he wasn’t bothered at all about Russian involvement in his election campaign
because the United States does the same thing to other counties around the world.
Contacts between Russian spies and their targets in the U.S. would happen
at places like an NRA convention, as when Maria Butina – remember her? – and
her SVR handler, Aleksandr Torshin, a Russian senator who would soon become the Speaker of the Senate of the Russian Federation,
a position you don’t get without the personal approval of Vladimir Putin,
were given all-access passes to the NRA convention in St. Louis in 2012 and
the next one in Houston in 2013,
not to mention being welcomed at NRA headquarters in Virginia both years.
Torshin and Butina arranged for officials of the NRA to travel to Russia in 2015 for the convention of a completely fictional organization established by Butina called “Right to Bear Arms.”
There is no right to bear arms in Russia
Mueller...
able to lay out in excruciating detail how, under the direction of Vladimir Putin himself, SVR agents and hackers working for the Russian government
infiltrated the American political system, exerted influence over the Trump campaign in 2016,
helped to distribute hacked Democratic Party emails to damage the campaign of Hillary Clinton
Trump himself hired a man with ties to Russian intelligence, Paul Manafort, to chair his campaign.
Lev Parnas? How about Igor Fruman? What the hell were those two doing dining with Rudy Giuliani and President Donald Trump at his hotel in Washington in 2018, discussing how to get rid of the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch? They were both involved with Deripaska, to whom Manafort owed something like $12 million.
all of them were so neck deep in Trump’s Ukraine scandal that if Parnas’ connections were made public,
they would lead directly to Russian intelligence assets like Deripaska and Kilimnik and oligarch Viktor Vekselberg and others, right up to and including the Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov.
intended to destabilize the country of Ukraine, which under the leadership of Zelensky,
Putin had been up to his games with the U.S. since Trump,
who had announced he would run for president someday, took his Miss Universe pageant to Russia in 2013.
Putin had backed right-wing candidates for office in countries like France and Germany and Poland and Hungary.
his biggest, most heavily-funded and closest-watched meddling was against Russia’s eternal big power rival, the United States.
The whole “Ukraine scandal” that got Trump impeached was actually a power play by Putin to destabilize that country.
https://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-russia
Spurs Homer
01-05-2023, 02:01 PM
How Russian Agents Have Perverted Our Politics:
A View From 1000 Feet
Well, as we should all know by now, the days of intelligence agents passing secrets in the night are long gone.
Now the spies are right out in the open.
And that’s the other thing we haven’t done.
We haven’t stood back and looked at recent political events from an overall perspective.
We’ve gotten lost in the rapidly and endlessly unfolding scandals of you-know-who,
buried in the details of this secret meeting or that illegal campaign contribution or that questionable character being invited into the Oval Office, no less,
for meetings that have gone all the way from trying to get the FBI Director to look the other way and
go easy on one of what would become several White House felons,
to out-and-out plots to use the military to seize election machinery and re-run an election, which was not in effect a coup, but a coup in progress.
Almost all the unusual events in our recent political life have involved Russians,
and as we will see, they go back much further than we usually recall.
Trump would waltz Kislyak and his boss the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, past all the White House handlers and the Russian media –
but not the American press pool covering the White House, who were banned from the event –
right into the Oval Office where,
it would later be reported, he passed some kind of top secret information to them about Israel and assured the two that he wasn’t bothered at all about Russian involvement in his election campaign
because the United States does the same thing to other counties around the world.
Contacts between Russian spies and their targets in the U.S. would happen
at places like an NRA convention, as when Maria Butina – remember her? – and
her SVR handler, Aleksandr Torshin, a Russian senator who would soon become the Speaker of the Senate of the Russian Federation,
a position you don’t get without the personal approval of Vladimir Putin,
were given all-access passes to the NRA convention in St. Louis in 2012 and
the next one in Houston in 2013,
not to mention being welcomed at NRA headquarters in Virginia both years.
Torshin and Butina arranged for officials of the NRA to travel to Russia in 2015 for the convention of a completely fictional organization established by Butina called “Right to Bear Arms.”
There is no right to bear arms in Russia
Mueller...
able to lay out in excruciating detail how, under the direction of Vladimir Putin himself, SVR agents and hackers working for the Russian government
infiltrated the American political system, exerted influence over the Trump campaign in 2016,
helped to distribute hacked Democratic Party emails to damage the campaign of Hillary Clinton
Trump himself hired a man with ties to Russian intelligence, Paul Manafort, to chair his campaign.
Lev Parnas? How about Igor Fruman? What the hell were those two doing dining with Rudy Giuliani and President Donald Trump at his hotel in Washington in 2018, discussing how to get rid of the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch? They were both involved with Deripaska, to whom Manafort owed something like $12 million.
all of them were so neck deep in Trump’s Ukraine scandal that if Parnas’ connections were made public,
they would lead directly to Russian intelligence assets like Deripaska and Kilimnik and oligarch Viktor Vekselberg and others, right up to and including the Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov.
intended to destabilize the country of Ukraine, which under the leadership of Zelensky,
Putin had been up to his games with the U.S. since Trump,
who had announced he would run for president someday, took his Miss Universe pageant to Russia in 2013.
Putin had backed right-wing candidates for office in countries like France and Germany and Poland and Hungary.
his biggest, most heavily-funded and closest-watched meddling was against Russia’s eternal big power rival, the United States.
The whole “Ukraine scandal” that got Trump impeached was actually a power play by Putin to destabilize that country.
https://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-russia
all this was done in the open
but amerikkkans prefer lies,fake news, traitors, propaganda, etc
RandomGuy
04-08-2023, 08:27 PM
Hardly "once". Tiabbi has a history of going after either team....'s one of the many reasons I continue follow him.
https://twitter.com/MehdiHasanShow/status/1644061802970468376
LOL
he is an idiot.
Ef-man
04-08-2023, 08:55 PM
https://twitter.com/MehdiHasanShow/status/1644061802970468376
LOL
he is an idiot.
He had his shit pushed in.
:lol
https://twitter.com/MehdiHasanShow/status/1644061802970468376
LOL
he is an idiot.
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1644392551066255361
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1644427932671279105
ChumpDumper
04-10-2023, 10:49 AM
:lol Elon says Taibbi is a liar.
RandomGuy
04-14-2023, 09:51 AM
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1644392551066255361
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1644427932671279105
For some reason, twit-bird doesn't work for me here. wierd.
boutons_deux
12-16-2023, 01:24 PM
The CIA and FBI built a huge file of hundreds of pages on Russia's interference in Mr. Trash's election 2016
It was locked in a safe, locked in a safe, hyper super duper classified
In December 2020, it disappeared and has not been found
Mr. Trash had his at his boot lick hackers steel that file because it exposed how Putin had really gotten Mr. Trash elected
Russia was a hoax, etc, etc, was all a smoke screen to hide the fact that FBI and CIA you with the f*** Putin was doing
boutons_deux
12-16-2023, 01:25 PM
Mr. Trash was lucky to have an a****** wimp like Mueller running the investigation, with corrupt Barr and his four page exonerating summary spewing more spoke screen and confusion, feeling the zone with s***
Thread
12-16-2023, 03:02 PM
Mr. Trash was lucky to have an a****** wimp like Mueller running the investigation, with corrupt Barr and his four page exonerating summary spewing more spoke screen and confusion, feeling the zone with s***
And ya's swore by Mueller until he went live that time and couldn't speak anything but gibberish. He didn't have to go home, but, he had to get the hell out of there, eh, bouts?
tee, hee.
Thread
12-16-2023, 03:04 PM
The CIA and FBI built a huge file of hundreds of pages on Russia's interference in Mr. Trash's election 2016
It was locked in a safe, locked in a safe, hyper super duper classified
In December 2020, it disappeared and has not been found
Mr. Trash had his at his boot lick hackers steel that file because it exposed how Putin had really gotten Mr. Trash elected
Russia was a hoax, etc, etc, was all a smoke screen to hide the fact that FBI and CIA you with the f*** Putin was doing
And the F.B.I. didn't even have a search warrant at Waco. Neither did McVeigh at OKC.
Spurs Homer
12-16-2023, 05:42 PM
Mr. Trash was lucky to have an a****** wimp like Mueller running the investigation, with corrupt Barr and his four page exonerating summary spewing more spoke screen and confusion, feeling the zone with s***
Exactly what I have said for years...
We saw it with our own eyes.
Scum traitor piece of shit will never get rid of that treason stain.
Thread
12-16-2023, 07:03 PM
Exactly what I have said for years...
We saw it with our own eyes.
Scum traitor piece of shit will never get rid of that treason stain.
And ya's swore by Mueller until he went live that time and couldn't speak anything but gibberish. He didn't have to go home, but, he had to get the hell out of there, eh, Homer?
tee, hee.
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