Spurs 2019 offseason thread

[ismael-robert]

Or when's media day

[cool cat]

Or when's media day

It's usually the day before training camp starts.

[tbdog]

Man, like 10 more days until some actual Spurs news. Not use to long pre seasons with 1st round exits.

[cutewizard]

Hows our young Jedi doing?

Samaniccccccccccccc!!!

[cutewizard]

Spurs win it all

[cutewizard]

Spuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrsss

[Dex]

Man, like 10 more days until some actual Spurs news. Not use to long pre seasons with 1st round exits.

The World Cup games helped, but I am ready to start seeing what this squad can do.

It's that time of year when you start to get excited about Preseason starting on October 5th...only to remember that preseason games are rarely televised or broadcast and typically pretty boring. But hey, it's basketball.

[ace3g]

SAN ANTONIO — The San Antonio Spurs today announced that Mitch Johnson has been promoted to an assistant coach while Darius Songalia has been elevated to a player development assistant on Gregg Popovich's staff.
At the same time the Spurs have announced the following promotions and additions to the basketball operations staff: Brandon James - vice president of basketball administration and deputy general counsel, Dave Telep - director of player personnel, Adam Glessner - senior director of basketball intelligence, Phil Cullen - director of basketball operations and innovation, Niraj Mulji - director of basketball strategy, Nick Repole - director of research and development, Landry Fields - Austin Spurs general manager, Tyler Self - Austin Spurs assistant general manager and Keon Weise - performance informatic scout.



https://foxsanantonio.com/sports/spurs-announce-coaching-staff-additions-basketball-operations-promotions

[Robz4000]

Damn, never would've guessed Landry Fields would end up a GM in the Spurs organization, even if it is for Austin.

[tbdog]

The World Cup games helped, but I am ready to start seeing what this squad can do.

It's that time of year when you start to get excited about Preseason starting on October 5th...only to remember that preseason games are rarely televised or broadcast and typically pretty boring. But hey, it's basketball.

We got Timvp to give us some unbiased analysis on Spurs pre season games and the annual Spurs pick up game. I don;t watch them myself, only highlights. But I miss the interviews and the vibe this place has when it's actual Spurs season.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1175463616667115520

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1175811338683277313

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1176569362972598273

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/paulcastroNBA/status/1176584317562175488

[Duncan87]

Jaron Blossomgame going to camp with Rockets per Shams

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKM2i72Uvw4

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1178105449620619264

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1178120523181674496

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1185319188631474176

[jermaine]

https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1185319188631474176

Does this have anything to do with the Spurs? I cant see the Article

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Does this have anything to do with the Spurs? I cant see the Article

No mention of Spurs, just that Indiana is considering trading him and "several teams" have interest. No specific team mentioned in article.

[Prime BEEF]

I’m not sure how the spurs pull that trade off. Would have to take on a bad contract and give up draft picks but don’t think we have anyone they want. Except Murray and White

[jermaine]

No mention of Spurs, just that Indiana is considering trading him and "several teams" have interest. No specific team mentioned in article.

Thanks

[Leetonidas]

White euro big - you know spurs are interested in him tbh

[jermaine]

White euro big - you know spurs are interested in him tbh

Funny but true.... Dont we have our Luka thou!?!

[RC_Drunkford]

Sabonis would be a great addition since he can also play PF next to Aldridge and could take over at C in the future. Poeltl and a 1st maybe?
The thing is they only want to move him because he demands way more money than the Pacers want to pay him, so you only make the move if you think you can resign him after his contract expires

[CGD]

Like Sabonis, but maybe the better move is to make him an offer sheet next summer.

Who knows, Spurs roster could be way different next year if LMA and DDR move on. Then there is the whole, who to pay big money to long term among Murray, White, and Walker.

[mo7888]

I could see Sabonis here but I don't see him with LMA long term. If we get him I think we definitely move off of LMA next summer. Then consider the fit with Poeltl and Samanic. If Poeltl is a long term backup center then maybe it works but, I think the plan is to resign Poeltl and eventually have Samanic eventually start alongside him. Poeltl will cost less than sabonis and that will make a difference when it comes to keeping our backcourt down the line.

[FutureMan]

Sabonis would be great, however it is going to be difficult as it is to retain Murray, Forbes, & Poeltl. A larger contract like Mills, Rudy, Aldridge, or DeRozan would have to be moved to support a trade. A three team trade would be the way to go.

[kobyz]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6abumsq

[EricB]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6abumsq


Why in the name of god would the Spurs do this trade

[CGD]

I could see Sabonis here but I don't see him with LMA long term. If we get him I think we definitely move off of LMA next summer. Then consider the fit with Poeltl and Samanic. If Poeltl is a long term backup center then maybe it works but, I think the plan is to resign Poeltl and eventually have Samanic eventually start alongside him. Poeltl will cost less than sabonis and that will make a difference when it comes to keeping our backcourt down the line.

Do you see LMA here after this year? The way that last year is structure feels like that is “send off” money.

Feels like a Sabonis<>White swap makes both sense for both sides.

[sasaint]

We need a SF/PF not a PF/C.

[kobyz]

Why in the name of god would the Spurs do this trade

to get the significant best player in the trade!

[CGD]

We need a SF/PF not a PF/C.

If this were last year, I’d agree. The team should be honest with where it is now: a period of transition where they should be looking for the best talent that fits the system. They need to be thinking about a LMA replacement, and consolidating their guard assets to get a long term impact wing player (I’m partial to someone like Jaylen Brown, but I’m sure there are others that could fit the bill).

[mo7888]

Do you see LMA here after this year? The way that last year is structure feels like that is “send off” money.

Feels like a Sabonis<>White swap makes both sense for both sides.

If LMA has a good year I think we exercise our option to retain him.

[BillMc]

If LMA has a good year I think we exercise our option to retain him.

LMA's game should age well. He could still be a power for 3 more years or so.

[raybies]

LMA's game should age well. He could still be a power for 3 more years or so.
his strength is his size and shooting so I agree 100%. he can bully and get his shot off any time he wants. I can see him and the Spurs mutually agree to part ways to he can title chase but the youngins may show enough promise to keep him around long term. He's grown a lot on me.

[sasaint]

his strength is his size and shooting so I agree 100%. he can bully and get his shot off any time he wants. I can see him and the Spurs mutually agree to part ways to he can title chase but the youngins may show enough promise to keep him around long term. He's grown a lot on me.

I disagree. He could bully, but he choses to do so infrequently. On top of that, his preferred shot is a turnaround fadeaway from +/- 18 ft. that almost anybody can get off. That is one of the least efficient shots I can think of. I don't expect his prowess with that shot to stay with him as he ages. Then he will be forced to change his game in a way that he has resisted his entire career. I do not see Pop's being willing to part with him. Nor do I think he has the competitive fire or burning desire to win a championship that will compel him to seek a trade. I think he is complacent and Pop is willing to indulge his complacency. Pop said he would walk away when Tim did; I believe his new plan is to walk away when LMA does... unless...

[sasaint]

If this were last year, I’d agree. The team should be honest with where it is now: a period of transition where they should be looking for the best talent that fits the system. They need to be thinking about a LMA replacement, and consolidating their guard assets to get a long term impact wing player (I’m partial to someone like Jaylen Brown, but I’m sure there are others that could fit the bill).

I don't really disagree with you. I would embrace Sabonis, but not alongside LMA and Poodle. Just replacing LMA or Poodle with Sabonis won't really make much short-term difference. If we brought in Sabonis, we would still need a serious upgrade at SF. I like Jaylen Brown, too. I just don't see us making a deal to acquire him, and while I am not convinced SA cannot sign high caliber FAs, it really remains to be seen (aside from the LMA signing).

[RC_Drunkford]

Aldridge is a top 25 player in the league while having the 40th highest salary, averages 21 and 9 on 52% shooting, made the All-Star team and is one of the best rim protectors in the NBA, yet Spurs fans still hate him. Makes no damn sense. Players like Sabonis can't protect the rim like LA does.
He took over Duncan's defensive presence as the rim protector and never gets credit for it.

[BillMc]

Aldridge is a top 25 player in the league while having the 40th highest salary, earning less than Marc Gasol, Steven Adams and Capela, averages 21 and 9 on 52% shooting, made the All-Star team and is one of the best rim protectors in the NBA, yet Spurs fans still hate him. Makes no damn sense. Players like Sabonis can't protect the rim like LA does.
He took over Duncan's defensive presence as the rim protector and never gets credit for it.

I agree with this. And 2 years ago he dragged us into the playoffs while Kawhi was wanking in NY. He has his flaws and personality quirks, but he's really underrated on ST. We in essence traded a washed-up Tiago Splitter for him and he's given us 3 All-Star years, and been the team's best player the last two years. It's not like we sacrificed a lot to get him and then he disappointed.

[kobyz]

Sabonis smart and style of post game reminds me Tim Duncan, he just not as long, but it's still a thing of beauty and I like to have him...

[gospursgojas]

Lol Sabonis over Aldridge?

Y’all are like a 53 year old man tired of old trusty wife and shitty young pretty trash seems like a better deal.

[CGD]

I don’t disagree that LMA is the better player right now. I also think it would be foolish for the Spurs not to explore options if they flounder earlier and/or another team is looking for the “missing piece” (e.g., Blazers, Heat). Let’s be honest, Spurs are effectively in a transition period anyway and face tough choice on LMA and DDR next summer.

For example, the “Love to Blazers” rumblings are out there as a trade that could happen if blazers struggle out the gate. I don’t see why a LMA reunion isn’t equally plausible. Spurs would likely have to take back (and immediately waive) Whiteside but should be able to extract some future value (e.g., Nasir Little and a pick).

Or they could do something like this with picks coming to the Spurs:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5eq8qd9

[EricB]

You’re a moron

[EricB]

I agree with this. And 2 years ago he dragged us into the playoffs while Kawhi was wanking in NY. He has his flaws and personality quirks, but he's really underrated on ST. We in essence traded a washed-up Tiago Splitter for him and he's given us 3 All-Star years, and been the team's best player the last two years. It's not like we sacrificed a lot to get him and then he disappointed.


don’t forget he signed a VERY friendly team extension. VERY friendly.

[ZeusWillJudge]

One of the other guys I really wanted the Spurs to sign this offseason was Darius Miller. He wound up re-siging with the Pels. I didn't keep up on news, but I noticed he wasn't on the roster tonight. Just a few days after NO re-signed him, he ruptured an Achilles playing 3-on-3, and the team wound up getting a disabled player exception.

I just hope the Spurs stay relatively healthy this season.

[look_at_g_shred]

Aldridge is a top 25 player in the league while having the 40th highest salary, averages 21 and 9 on 52% shooting, made the All-Star team and is one of the best rim protectors in the NBA, yet Spurs fans still hate him. Makes no damn sense. Players like Sabonis can't protect the rim like LA does.
He took over Duncan's defensive presence as the rim protector and never gets credit for it.
I think its more because he shrinks under pressure, and it seems like basketball is just a job to him and not a passion as it was with TD/Manu. He lacks fire.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think its more because he shrinks under pressure, and it seems like basketball is just a job to him and not a passion as it was with TD/Manu. He lacks fire.

true, but comparing him to the best player who ever played at his position is unfair. Besides big men are a lot easier to defend through double teams than perimeter players. People say AD is the best big in the game, but last time I checked he couldn't carry his team into the postseason. People criticize Aldridge for his shot selection when he shot 53% on contested jumpers. Makes no damn sense

[look_at_g_shred]

true, but comparing him to the best player who ever played at his position is unfair. Besides big men are a lot easier to defend through double teams than perimeter players. People say AD is the best big in the game, but last time I checked he couldn't carry his team into the postseason. People criticize Aldridge for his shot selection when he shot 53% on contested jumpers. Makes no damn sense
Only comparing because he essentially replaced him

[BackHome]

Just bring over Nikola makes more sense and much cheaper then Sabonis.

[look_at_g_shred]

How about sending lma back to portland for nurcic. Not sure what that kind of deal would entail, but I think Stotts and the blazers would oblige.

[jjktkk]

I think its more because he shrinks under pressure, and it seems like basketball is just a job to him and not a passion as it was with TD/Manu. He lacks fire.
FWIW, Critics use to say the same thing about David Robinson. Obviously Aldridge is no Admiral, but he is all-star caliber player. Besides most players will fail in comparison to the big 3.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think its more because he shrinks under pressure, and it seems like basketball is just a job to him and not a passion as it was with TD/Manu. He lacks fire.

How is that even wrong when that's the motto Popovich preaches all the time?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Remember all the debate about Rui Hachimura this offseason? All the talk about possibly trading up to get him, and others saying that he couldn't play big enough in the NBA?

He put up 14 and 10 tonight in a losing effort against the Mavs. Only bringing it up because he was the subject of so many posts. It's only one game, but he was pretty damn good for a rookie.

[Russ]

Remember all the debate about Rui Hachimura this offseason? All the talk about possibly trading up to get him, and others saying that he couldn't play big enough in the NBA?

He put up 14 and 10 tonight in a losing effort against the Mavs. Only bringing it up because he was the subject of so many posts. It's only one game, but he was pretty damn good for a rookie.

Samanic probably has a higher upside.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Samanic probably has a higher upside.


He might. But right now you'd have to work pretty hard to see it.

Upside is a pretty elusive thing. Hell, they all have upside if they're good enough to get drafted. I still think Brandon Clarke could have contributed this year - possibly a lot. I still think Samanic has the potential to be one of those really frustrating draft picks that show flashes of potential, but never live up to it on a consistent basis.

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1187762881925963777

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