Spurs 2019 offseason thread

[kobyz]

Totally agree. I’d take Murray over Russ from this point forward totally ignoring the contracts . Contracts only make it more of a one sided argument.


Shooting from different distances (career for Murray as he was hurt and gives bigger sample size, most recent season for Russ):
Murray Westbrook
0-3 ft 58.2% 65.0%
3-10 ft 38.2% 20.8%
10-16 ft 33.1% 33.3%
16+ 2pt 34.8% 35.8%
3pt 31.6% 30.8%

So while Murray is less effective at the rim, he’s about the same from every other range and not a trainwreck on short twos like Russ is. Murray’s numbers will only trend up as he keeps getting coached, and once Westbrook’s athleticism is sapped you end up with Murray’s shooting from the past few years if not worse.

Usage and attention sucked in from defense should be adjusted for too. But Russ has PG13 on the floor whereas Dejounte has like eight games of Kawhi.


Murray’s turnover rate is really high, but that’s not uncommon for a young PG. Westbrook’s assist rate is high but still turns over ball a ton.


Rebound rates are very similar, though Westbrook’s teammates box out for him to statpad.


And we haven’t even talked about defense yet. Night and day.

I think it's pathetic for spurs fans to refuse getting Russ by not willing to give up freaking IB, IB is so overated and has so much false hype, and the underestimate of Russ went too far, the talent is still there and he just need a well coach team in order to perform high level, still have in him at least 2-3 prime years, Spurs fans seems, ironically, looking not from their own stand point which should be how pato can form the most entertaining and best title chance team instead of looking for worrying about the owner money or buying pato vanilla shit about a plan...

[cjw]

I think it's pathetic for spurs fans to refuse getting Russ by not willing to give up freaking IB, IB is so overated and has so much false hype, and the underestimate of Russ went too far, the talent is still there and he just need a well coach team in order to perform high level, still have in him at least 2-3 prime years, Spurs fans seems, ironically, looking not from their own stand point which should be how pato can form the most entertaining and best title chance team instead of looking for worrying about the owner money or buying pato vanilla shit about a plan...

What you said is true by flipping Westbrook and Murray around. It’s not giving up Murray for Westbrook, it’s Demar and Murray.

I can’t believe you still post here. You’re probably the worst on the board who isn’t a troll.

[Dex]

1148295872519630849

Some rumbling about Westbrook to Houston...but I don't see the Rockets having the assets.

For one, they'd have to convince OKC to take on Paul's horrible contract...and I'm pretty sure CP3 isn't going to be too keen on getting traded to a rebuilding team, so they'd have to worry about his whiny ass throwing a fit. They would have to attach picks, but all they have are some shitty 2nd rounders until 2023, and the most they could offer is 2023 and 2025 first rounders. Presti can't be that stupid...can he?

It would be fun to see Harden and Russ fighting over the ball again, though.

[Seventyniner]

It would be hilarious if the Rockets just abandon their whole offensive philosophy in a knee-jerk reactionary move like this. Westbrook shoots low 30s from 3 at best. Whenever Harden has the ball, which is gonna be most of the damn time, defenders will just sag off Westbrook and play 5 on 4.

[timtonymanu]

I feel like the warriors have made some sneaky good moves :pctossbut will see they’ve been pretty bad at evaluating good young players

People are underrating them while overrating the Lakers, tbh

[Dex]

It would be hilarious if the Rockets just abandon their whole offensive philosophy in a knee-jerk reactionary move like this. Westbrook shoots low 30s from 3 at best. Whenever Harden has the ball, which is gonna be most of the damn time, defenders will just sag off Westbrook and play 5 on 4.

Agreed. Harden is still going to want to dribble-dribble-dribble to a tune that would make Parker blush, which would relegate Westbrook to hanging out on the perimeter and chucking threes.

Good luck with that. :lol

[ironman2886]

Is there a way that Westbrook and Harden can somehow have their bodies stitched together(Harden left/Westbrook right) so that they can both handle the ball at the same time?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Stuck_on_you_ver2.jpg

[dubross]

Dwight Howard anyone?!?:spin ��

[kobyz]

What you said is true by flipping Westbrook and Murray around. It’s not giving up Murray for Westbrook, it’s Demar and Murray.

I can’t believe you still post here. You’re probably the worst on the board who isn’t a troll.

Not at all, you can make the trade without DDR

http://tradenba.com/trades/SkO6qkW-B
in 30 days you can replace Jacob with Luka

Russell Westbrook/Derrick White
DeMar DeRozan/Quinndary Weatherspoon
DeMarre Carroll/Keldon Johnson
Marcus Morris/Rudy Gay/Ben Moore
LaMarcus Aldridge/Jakob Poeltl(Semanic)

[Dex]

1148347161609768960

Laker-bound, I'm sure.

[Chillen]

Is there a way that Westbrook and Harden can somehow have their bodies stitched together(Harden left/Westbrook right) so that they can both handle the ball at the same time?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Stuck_on_you_ver2.jpg

Pretty much, love that movie btw it's a classic. The ending is brilliant.

[ironman2886]

Pretty much, love that movie btw it's a classic. The ending is brilliant.
I really liked the movie, but I loved seeing Eva Mendes in a swimsuit more.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1148337886560866304

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1148300687647731712

[Mr. Body]

1148347161609768960

Laker-bound, I'm sure.

I'm not sure the Lakers realize they need shooters.

[TD 21]

Grant is a nice pickup for the Nuggets. 3 (if last season wasn't a fluke) and D big wing was one of their two needs, along with perimeter star.

:lmao At this James is "moving to PG" news. Reminds me of D'Antoni inexplicably being lauded for "moving Harden to PG" a few years back . . . as if anything was/is going to change other than some irrelevant label. They always were de facto PG's on offense and wings on defense.

Once Scumbag spurned them, Morris should have become priority number one. James, Kuzma and Dudley, comprise their big wings. Not a Scumbag or Antetokounmpo defender in the bunch (Davis probably has to be the latter). They better hope they land Iguodala and he more or less maintains because James can't pull double duty, in a series as the lone star play maker and primary Scumbag defender, at this point.

[palangi]

I think it's pathetic for spurs fans to refuse getting Russ by not willing to give up freaking IB, IB is so overated and has so much false hype, and the underestimate of Russ went too far, the talent is still there and he just need a well coach team in order to perform high level, still have in him at least 2-3 prime years, Spurs fans seems, ironically, looking not from their own stand point which should be how pato can form the most entertaining and best title chance team instead of looking for worrying about the owner money or buying pato vanilla shit about a plan...

I think it's pathetic to see grown men call other grown men names!

[MoSpur02]

Apparently Shaun Livingston is being shopped

[tonight...you]

Apparently Shaun Livingston is being shopped
I thought he was one step out the door anyways.
Like retirement ready.

[Joseph Kony]

I think it's pathetic for spurs fans to refuse getting Russ by not willing to give up freaking IB, IB is so overated and has so much false hype, and the underestimate of Russ went too far, the talent is still there and he just need a well coach team in order to perform high level, still have in him at least 2-3 prime years, Spurs fans seems, ironically, looking not from their own stand point which should be how pato can form the most entertaining and best title chance team instead of looking for worrying about the owner money or buying pato vanilla shit about a plan...
shut up faggot

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1148423628737798144

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1148423628737798144

Who the fuck cares if he reunited with his college coach earlier in the day?

[Nivek_ogre]

Who the fuck cares if he reunited with his college coach earlier in the day?

Lol. Was thinking the same thing

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148756772351406082

[Big P]

I bet Livingston goes back to the Clips or to the lakers.

[tonight...you]

I bet Livingston goes back to the Clips or to the lakers.
He can go country line dance in Juarez for all I care.

[Joseph Kony]

:lol you know that old fuck is going to the Lakers along with Iguodala eventually

[Clipper Nation]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148756772351406082

https://i.imgur.com/BsJLHdx.jpg

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think it's pathetic for spurs fans to refuse getting Russ

If only the fan would stop cock-blocking PATFO. :rolleyes

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148779378685308928

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1148985258513014784

[mo7888]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19

[szkorhetz]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19
LOL :rollin:rollin

[kobyz]

Jarrett Allen might be upset not being a starter after the the DeAndre signing, I'm seeing opportunity here trying to upgrade Jacob for Allen in a trade, with some sweetner...

[kobyz]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19

Title/s are worth it, he lost any trust in Pop and Spurs it gonna happen here...

[GrapplingYautja]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19

"But, but, but Uncle Dennis is playing chess and PATFO playing checkers."

Dumb ass simp. And please spin this Spurs fake fans who post here, you weirdo fucks!

[ceperez]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19

I guess that pretty much settles how much Kawhi lost in the process of screwing both SA and the Raptors. $104m ...

[Dex]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1148986529253068800?s=19

:lmao Way to do the math, Uncle Dennis.

But hey, at least he got that :lol New Balance :lol deal.

[pad300]

I guess that pretty much settles how much Kawhi lost in the process of screwing both SA and the Raptors. $104m ...

It's not quite that simple, they are all different timelines of years involved...

[pad300]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1148985258513014784

I wonder if we would be interested as a reclamation project. I thought he was a decent draft prospect back in the day...

[TimDunkem]

I wonder if we would be interested as a reclamation project. I thought he was a decent draft prospect back in the day...

He's fat and does nothing well. Why?

[Mugen]

That 2021 FA class is crazy.

[Dex]

That 2021 FA class is crazy.

I guess that' good for the Spurs if they figure to be players in the market. They probably aren't landing one of the top talents like Kawhi (obviously) or George, but the more talent in the pool means more chances for a 2nd-tier guy to trickle down.

[Mugen]

I guess that' good for the Spurs if they figure to be players in the market. They probably aren't landing one of the top talents like Kawhi (obviously) or George, but the more talent in the pool means more chances for a 2nd-tier guy to trickle down.

Yep. Hopefully one or two of the young guys pops by then.

Good to great young players, Pop for a year then the ability to handpick your coach when he retires...

Spurs should be able to get somebody good that fits with the young core tbh.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1148974049260756993

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1149184001816453126

[slick'81]

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1149184001816453126


Morris the best of whats left

[Mr. Body]

Morris the best of whats left

He already was.

[Fusternino]

Yabusele worth another look, tbh.

[ceperez]

Yabusele worth another look, tbh.

I agree with this! I think Spurs should bring him in. He's a Boris Diaw type player.

[ceperez]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1148985258513014784

6'8" height ... 7'1" wingspan ... got a lot of bulk... can shoot the 3 ... lots of mobility.... great locker room guy... I say sign him for the open Morris spot!

[XDT76]

6'8" height ... 7'1" wingspan ... got a lot of bulk... can shoot the 3 ... lots of mobility.... great locker room guy... I say sign him for the open Morris spot!

What's the reason Celtics waive him?

[Fusternino]

Is he 6'8" barefoot? Would be great, I know Europeans are less likely to list height with shoes on. More like 6'9" in NBA terms then.

[r0drig0lac]

cut Metu, bring Yab and Singleton

[ceperez]

cut Metu, bring Yab and Singleton

I don't know if Metu has progressed but I like this idea too!

Yab is a reclamation project but he's only 23 and he's got a ton of talent. Singleton is some guy who is comparable to Morris.

I would dump Eubanks and sign Yabusele to the other 2-way.

[duncan2150]

Yabusele has a really bad conditionning, he is really fat and actually even in europe i'm not sure he will succeed. He was pretty bad in Summerleague too.

[GusT15]

What's the reason Celtics waive him?

He was eating the other players food at team dinners.

Poor Hayward lost 20 pounds cause Yabusele was terrorizing him during dinner time.

[ceperez]

Yabusele has a really bad conditionning, he is really fat and actually even in europe i'm not sure he will succeed. He was pretty bad in Summerleague too.

He's got Boris Diaw talent. Spurs were able to reclaim Boris. They can try again with Yabusele.

[Duncan87]

Trey lyles way better shape and better shot. Still young

[Duncan87]

Boston wrote an article on Yabusele on how he was still trying to correct his shot form won’t even get on the floor

[duncan2150]

He's got Boris Diaw talent. Spurs were able to reclaim Boris. They can try again with Yabusele.

i'm not saying he could not be a good player one day but he is not close to diaw in anything imo except the fact that he is a 3/4. He was interesting in France but he was not that good.

But the major thing is that he is totally out of shape since he was in Boston and that's not good since he is not an athletic player ( 24.5 standing vertical, 27.5 max vert)

I prefer Bender or Faried like i said before and even Lyles.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQxp8w2UMfE

Watch as he destroys Paul George and swats away Connely's layup.

[ironman2886]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQxp8w2UMfE

Watch as he destroys Paul George and swats away Connely's layup.
Dude has present day Charles Barkley body.

[kobyz]

Milutinov is moving his talent to euroleague champion CSKA!

[kobyz]

https://www.eurohoops.net/
Olympiacos requires a substantial buyout sum to release Milutinov to the Russian powerhouse.

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By Nikos Varlas/ [email protected]

CSKA Moscow has made a major offer to Olympiacos center Nikola Milutinov and has entered negotiations with the Greek club to possibly acquire the player according to Eurohoops sources.

Olympiacos had signed Milutinov to a contract extension until 2020 that includes only an NBA buyout that expires in mid-July. Olympiacos doesn’t intend to sell the Serbian center to another EuroLeague side unless the “Reds” receive a satisfactory and substantial sum that will help them create a competitive roster for 2019-2020.

The talks between CSKA and Olympiacos are ongoing. The following days will determine whether Milutinov will continue with the Greek team or join the reigning EuroLeague champion.

Milutinov, 24, comes off the top season of his career so far. He averaged 11.7 points, 7.9 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 26:01 minutes over 28 games in EuroLeague with Olympiacos and emerged as one of the elite centers in the competition.

The San Antonio Spurs own Milutinov’s NBA rights.

[ZeusWillJudge]

If the number I saw was correct, the Spurs are sitting just over the mandatory minimum team salary for this season.

I'm sick of the Morris fiasco. I'd have a hard time liking the bastard now, if he came here.

The Spurs clearly didn't want Milutinov, so I don't know why he'd come here if he got a late offer.

I've love to see the Spurs come up with a trade to get someone like Marvin Williams from Charlotte, but I don't see how the Spurs entice a trade using Belli and Mills.

At this point, I'd really rather they just give the young guys some extra minutes, and save the MLE for whatever might become available mid-season.

[venitian navigator]

Considering they were assumedly shopping Bellinelli and that OKC is dismantling the team in a rebuilding way, I wonder if one of the possible trades could be for one of their men...looking at the salaries it could be Patterson...its the kind of role we need but if I am correct he had an horrendous season...

[r0drig0lac]

Considering they were assumedly shopping Bellinelli and that OKC is dismantling the team in a rebuilding way, I wonder if one of the possible trades could be for one of their men...looking at the salaries it could be Patterson...its the kind of role we need but if I am correct he had an horrendous season...

Gallo is the man we should try to acquire from OKC imo

[pad300]

If the number I saw was correct, the Spurs are sitting just over the mandatory minimum team salary for this season.

I'm sick of the Morris fiasco. I'd have a hard time liking the bastard now, if he came here.

The Spurs clearly didn't want Milutinov, so I don't know why he'd come here if he got a late offer.

I've love to see the Spurs come up with a trade to get someone like Marvin Williams from Charlotte, but I don't see how the Spurs entice a trade using Belli and Mills.

At this point, I'd really rather they just give the young guys some extra minutes, and save the MLE for whatever might become available mid-season.

1) the Spurs aren't close to the mandatory minimum - the number you saw probably didn't include Gay ($16M) and Carroll (~ $7M).
2) I wouldn't trade for Marvin. I'd be trying to pull a S&T Beli for K Faried... Being able to play as 3ed C gives him extra versatility and he will be cheaper. Not to mention I think Faried's a better player...

[pad300]

Not unless he gets a buyout. He's under contract for $22M...

[venitian navigator]

Gallo is the man we should try to acquire from OKC imo

well, that's possible if OKC sell him for Mills and Belli...but Patty looks undreadable for us...

[Leetonidas]

Gallo is expiring I believe and they need a tank commander for next year. Don't see the Spurs being able to nab him for trash Mills or Marco. Why does ST shit on these guys but then think teams are willing to trade rotation players for them :lol

[slick'81]

well, that's possible if OKC sell him for Mills and Belli...but Patty looks undreadable for us...


Okc isnt giving away gallo for belli and fatty tbh

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQxp8w2UMfE

impressive for someone who's getting waived.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Okc isnt giving away gallo for belli and fatty tbh

They may for those 2 and 2 1st round picks

[BacktoBasics]

Gallo is expiring I believe and they need a tank commander for next year. Don't see the Spurs being able to nab him for trash Mills or Marco. Why does ST shit on these guys but thinks are willing to trade rotation players for them :lolHe’s got a 22.6 expiring. It would likely take one of our core young guys and picks. If not a ton of picks based on what they’re trying to accumulate. He’s not a realistic target in my eyes.

[tonight...you]

Gallo is expiring I believe and they need a tank commander for next year. Don't see the Spurs being able to nab him for trash Mills or Marco. Why does ST shit on these guys but then think teams are willing to trade rotation players for them :lol
Coping mechanism?

[BacktoBasics]

They may for those 2 and 2 1st round picks


Not with Patty’s 2 years left. I think they’d rather clear cap next summer or cash in at the trade deadline.

[Pavlov]

impressive for someone who's getting waived.He's that dude that makes you wonder how good he would be if he didn't weigh 300 pounds.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Not with Patty’s 2 years left. I think they’d rather clear cap next summer or cash in at the trade deadline.

Maybe. But they could maybe look at the stacked west and look at the spurs as maybe a team who misses the playoffs. With them probably moving Russ maybe having a mills who has experience and is a good team player doesn’t look so bad to them. Do I think it happens? No but I’d try it

[slick'81]

They may for those 2 and 2 1st round picks


Probably not even then

[kaji157]

You can only trade Mills and Marco for a really bad contract, and probably you´d have to add a first along them if the player in return has a remote chance to play at a significant level.
As of now i don´t see many players that fit that description.
Patty and Marco are around 19 millions trade value.
Together they are due 32 millions, so i´ll target players with at least 25% more money due.

Around that amount of money, and with more than 3 years on their contracts you have:
Zach LaVine, not sure why the bulls would do it.
Tim Hardaway, not sure why we would do it.
Clint Capella, Rockets won´t.
Evan Fournier, i don´t know.

The others are off the table because they are important players on teams contending.

[beirmeistr]

How little would it take to get the Manimal?

[ZeusWillJudge]

1) the Spurs aren't close to the mandatory minimum - the number you saw probably didn't include Gay ($16M) and Carroll (~ $7M).
2) I wouldn't trade for Marvin. I'd be trying to pull a S&T Beli for K Faried... Being able to play as 3ed C gives him extra versatility and he will be cheaper. Not to mention I think Faried's a better player...

As long as they're over the minimum, is the point. They don't have to do a damn thing. And doing something that doesn't make any real improvement is worse than doing nothing.

Williams made 140 3-pointers last season. Faried has made 10 in his career.

[BackHome]

Once again in Drafting Spurs get an A in Free Agency Spurs get a fucking F.......

[ace3g]

If Spurs don't have something up their sleeve but still looking for SF depth, what about Omri Casspi?

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs free-fall continues.
So, the big signing this summer was...Rudy Gay?
LOL, verbal commitments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hQaD0nbLc

Remember your ABCs!

[r0drig0lac]

would rather have given Moore or Huestis a chance than to sign Lyles

[gambit1990]

If Spurs don't have something up their sleeve but still looking for SF depth, what about Omri Casspi?
pass on casspi, he's for israeli occupation.

[Atl Spur]

If Spurs don't have something up their sleeve but still looking for SF depth, what about Omri Casspi?

Hopefully there’s is more to come�� I trust Patfo... these hawks fans here in Atlanta would love have our problems.

[Nivek_ogre]

How little would it take to get the Manimal?

He's been garbage for years.

[Capt Bringdown]

These past 2 offseasons...

[slick'81]

These past 2 offseasons...


Just think of the draft picks...just think of the draft picks

[ceperez]

With Lyles now in the roster:

Murray/Forbes/DeRozan/Gay/Aldridge
Mills/White/Walker/Caroll/Poetl

Backup: Belinelli, Lyles, Johnson, Samanic, Metu

2-way: Eubanks, Weatherspoon

[GusT15]

CSKA Moscow made an offer of 550k$ to Olympiakos for Milutinov.Olympiakos turned it down and is reportedly asking more than the 1.2Mil$ that his NBA buyout is set at,to sell him to CSKA.

CSKA's offer to Milutinov was at 2.2mil$ per.(Basically 4mil$ per in NBA money)

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/905574/cska-moscow-olympiacos-negotiating-over-nikola-milutinov/

[kobyz]

which lineup is better?
Spurs starting linup:
Dejounte Murray
Derrick White
DeMar DeRozan
LaMarcus Aldridge(DeMarre Carroll?)
Jakob Poeltl(LaMarcus Aldridge?)

or Lakers second unit:
Alex Caruso/Quinn Cook
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kyle Kuzma
DeMarcus Cousins

[childishbambi]

belli, lyles, and a pick for larry nance?

Spurs have enough promising prospects to take a chance and give away a pick.


nance
lma
gay
derozan
white

murray
forbes
walker
carroll
poltl

[tbdog]

which lineup is better?
Spurs starting linup:
Dejounte Murray
Derrick White
DeMar DeRozan
LaMarcus Aldridge(DeMarre Carroll?)
Jakob Poeltl(LaMarcus Aldridge?)

or Lakers second unit:
Alex Caruso/Quinn Cook
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kyle Kuzma
DeMarcus Cousins


In a 7 game series. Spurs win 4-0 by an average of 20 points.

[RC_Drunkford]

another year of Bryn Forbes being a starter

[Prime BEEF]

So basically all the spurs did this offseason was lose Bertans and gain Carrol. That’s not going to make a 7th seed team much better. Yes, Murray is back but the other western conference teams improved. If things work and the spurs can stay healthy there’s a decent chance we can get a 7th seed again. Yay

[SpursDynasty85]

another year of Bryn Forbes being a starter

Forbes playing extended minutes is fine as long as it isn't with any combination of him, Mills, and Belli...Forbes has shown he can play with anyone, a knock down shooter, pesky defender, and not afraid of the moment. Sounds just like a young Patty. Wonder where he learned all this from? Criticize all you want but Spurs PATFO did wonders with Forbes.

[Mugen]

another year of Bryn Forbes being a starter

Yep. But he was a key piece of a 47 win team that got bounced in the 1st round so he has to be starter-level, right?

[SpursDynasty85]

Yep. But he was a key piece of a 47 win team that got bounced in the 1st round so he has to be starter-level, right?

He reminds me of a Courtney Lee. Courtney Lee went to the finals as a starter (Orlando Magic). He can't carry you alone but he can win you games and score in bunches at a time like Patty. He will be a great compliment to DD, Murray, White, and Walker. Not to mention he has gotten significantly better every year and is still pretty young.

[SpurSpike]

Man this sucks. The forum was almost universally happy when Morris was announced to sign with the Spurs. Roster looked deep and people were generally optimistic and couldn't say anything bad about the front office.

But after what happened now all the trolls are loaded with shit to say for the rest of the season. Was nice for the day or two when everyone was excited on this forum...

[RC_Drunkford]

Forbes playing extended minutes is fine as long as it isn't with any combination of him, Mills, and Belli...Forbes has shown he can play with anyone, a knock down shooter, pesky defender, and not afraid of the moment. Sounds just like a young Patty. Wonder where he learned all this from? Criticize all you want but Spurs PATFO did wonders with Forbes.

I don't have nothing against Forbes but it would be better if he comes off the bench, since he can't guard anybody. It would be much better having DeRozan slide to SG and Play 2 3-and-D Forwards. Not to mention Forbes being a starter will make it a lot more difficult to resign him

[mo7888]

Tyson Chandler to the Rockets

[LCM]

I know this sentence begins with "you would need to trade Patty", so it 99% isn't happening. But if the Heat are in talks to try and trade for CP3 with OKC, the Spurs could get in on that deal to get a chance at trading for PF Johnson or SF Winslow. Pop traded a guard he loved for a forward to get KL. Because of the Morris fiasco you're going to have to do it again to give this franchise a shot in the West. Because you still need that starting forward to pair with Rudy in SL. Plus a Patty trade gives Lonnie more minutes, puts White in charge of the second unit as unquestioned leader. You would have options of White, Forbes, Lonnie, Carol, Lyles, Belli (KJ if Belli traded) and Poertl coming off your bench.

Miami will need Dragic, Waiters, and either Johnson or Winslow to make the money work. They will need a back up PG that Patty could fill. If you trade for Johnson - it's Patty and Belli, Winslow - is Patty and Metu with 2020 first Rd pick to Heat. Winslow has a third year on his contract but the third year in the 2021 off season is a team option, not player. The Spurs still have a chance to do a deal for a forward they can use like they wanted to use in Morris. Plus they would potentially be working with people that are at least professional, unlike Morris. But Pop seriously needs to ask himself if he really wants to win again or not. Because we have younger more versatile guards now that need any minutes Patty would use this season. We need that forward to compete in the West and Miami has two of them.

[ironman2886]

Tyson Chandler to the Rockets
He was great with New Orleans and Dallas’ 2011 Championship. He’s done tbh.

[kobyz]

would you trade IB for Detroit's Bruce Brown?
both same type player with similar style and skill set, but i'm thinking i prefer Brown as he has stronger frame, although he doesn't have the same hype(Spurs surely know how to hype their players) and he isn't talk about much, being a second rounder, i think he's gonna ends up the better one!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It2wfP-fOl0

[Spurs Brazil]

@LegionHoopsRoss
Source: Forward David Nwaba receiving interest from the Clippers, Jazz, Spurs and 76ers.

[SpurSpike]

@LegionHoopsRoss
Source: Forward David Nwaba receiving interest from the Clippers, Jazz, Spurs and 76ers.

Looks like he has been on the spurs radar as im seeing a few articles from 2018 saying spurs were interested. Everything seems to lists him as a shooting guard though at 6'4" 219 lbs.

[Gordy58]

Looks like he has been on the spurs radar as im seeing a few articles from 2018 saying spurs were interested. Everything seems to lists him as a shooting guard though at 6'4" 219 lbs.
think he can guard 1-3 though, crazy athleticism

[TimDunkem]

Ugh no more midget SGs.

[BackHome]

Why is our name in almost every trade report? And yeah no more midgets

[Joseph Kony]

supposedly Heat are working out a trade for CP3. dont know how legit this page is tho, probably not at all

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would be if the Spurs could get in on this somehow

[LCM]

supposedly Heat are working out a trade for CP3. dont know how legit this page is tho, probably not at all

1149898323798589441

1149901003979816960

1149903709331058688

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would be if the Spurs could get in on this somehow

My guess is the player is Johnson at $15 million because Olynk and Waiters combined are around $25 million. You'd have to ship Patty 1) with Belli - you could get a $2 million sweetener player in return 2) with Forbes - the money is perfect. Attach the 2020 1st Rd pick but only that if needed.

You could have :
Murray - DD - RG - Johnson - LMA
White - Lonnie - Carrol - Lyles/Luka - JP
QW - KJ - Ben Moore - Metu - Eubanks

Insert Forbes or Belli, whichever isn't apart of the deal.

[Prime BEEF]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3s5ft45

fun to dream...

miami gets: Paul, Mills, Marco
OKC gets: Dragic, Johnson, Olynyk, Forbes
spurs get: Adams

[Dex]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3s5ft45

fun to dream...

miami gets: Paul, Mills, Marco
OKC gets: Dragic, Johnson, Olynyk, Forbes
spurs get: Adams

You think Pop is going to give up all three of his pets in a trade?

You really are dreaming.

[Prime BEEF]

Nope. Hence the dream comment

[CGD]

supposedly Heat are working out a trade for CP3. dont know how legit this page is tho, probably not at all

1149898323798589441

1149901003979816960

1149903709331058688

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would be if the Spurs could get in on this somehow

Can’t believe every internet hero with a twitter account, but what is true is that the combo of players a hard capped Heat team can send out is pretty limited AND every scenario involves OKC taking money beyond this year.

The only one that doesn’t is a package where Dragic goes back to OKC and the other part goes to a 3rd team.

[Mr. Body]

There are rumors the Rockets are trying to s&t Iman Shumpert to get Andre Iguodala.

[CGD]

I know it’s very early, but boy is next offseason going to be huge for the franchise.

They can go anywhere from Reupping the current group to having space to throw a lot of money at a Jaylen Brown type. And everything in between.

[Chillen]

Iggy is a good fit for the Clippers. Rockets will play him way to many minutes.

Miami would be stupid as hell to trade for CP3. If he doesn't get bought out he is staying with Thunder.

[slick'81]

Iggy is a good fit for the Clippers. Rockets will play him way to many minutes.

Miami would be stupid as hell to trade for CP3. If he doesn't get bought out he is staying with Thunder.


Thunder arent interested in heats offer

[Mr. Body]

Thunder arent interested in heats offer

I think it's the other way around. Heat don't want that ridiculous contract.

[slick'81]

I think it's the other way around. Heat don't want that ridiculous contract.


Yea that contract is ridiculous

[BackHome]

Oklahoma needs to sale tickets no way they letting Paul go.

[picnroll]

Spurs dodged a major bullet when they couldn't sign Chris Paul.

[SpursDynasty85]

Spurs dodged a major bullet when they couldn't sign Chris Paul.

I think they knew it. CP3 was on record as saying "Spurs never seriously pursued him" or something of that nature. Tony Parker still wanted to start for another 4 years or something at that time. TP and CP3 would've made no sense and Spurs would've never traded him. And yes I agree, bullet dodged.

[Chillen]

Oklahoma needs to sale tickets no way they letting Paul go.

Is CP3 going to be happy with being on a rebuilding team for the remainder of his career. No way. Buyout is the only option for him no team is going to take on his ridiculous contract. Westbrook is the better player now so Houston looked at it like were just upgrading CP3 but still have to overpay a player.


I think they knew it. CP3 was on record as saying "Spurs never seriously pursued him" or something of that nature. Tony Parker still wanted to start for another 4 years or something at that time. TP and CP3 would've made no sense and Spurs would've never traded him. And yes I agree, bullet dodged.

Pretty sure Spurs would have interest in him now if he gets bought out but he is probably going to one of the LA teams. Yes Spurs dodged a bullet in not signing CP3 to a max deal but if he gets bought out he's worth it still.

[mo7888]

Is CP3 going to be happy with being on a rebuilding team for the remainder of his career. No way. Buyout is the only option for him no team is going to take on his ridiculous contract. Westbrook is the better player now so Houston looked at it like were just upgrading CP3 but still have to overpay a player.



Pretty sure Spurs would have interest in him now if he gets bought out but he is probably going to one of the LA teams. Yes Spurs dodged a bullet in not signing CP3 to a max deal but if he gets bought out he's worth it still.

They can't waive him unless he agrees to give up between $40-$50 million on his deal. A team can't carry over 15% if the cap in waived salary on their books under the CBA.

I doubt hes willing to give up that much.

[gambit1990]

They can't waive him unless he agrees to give up between $40-$50 million on his deal. A team can't carry over 15% if the cap in waived salary on their books under the CBA.

I doubt hes willing to give up that much.
yeah, he'd obviously have to give up a lot. i think he would... get out of a contract, still make a decent chunk of change... then sign a small one year deal (while getting more endorsement money with lakers or clippers than he would with okc), then get a more respectable deal after that one year.

[gambit1990]

i'd be wild about the spurs again if they landed cp3 after him getting bought out. i definitely think he'd go to a contender though.

but cp3 / murray / demar / la / poeltl would be cool. it'd help me get over my disgust for demar and make patty incredibly expendable.

[Leetonidas]

Anyone who think the president of the players association is going to take a ridiculous buyout to go ringchase is nuts tbh

[gambit1990]

i'm trying to rationalize how much of a buyout cp3 would agree to. i could see 35 or 40 but okc has all the power and i guess they would try to top out at 20.

so if he agreed to 25 he'd lose around 95. sign a small one year deal, then 3 for 48? so ultimately lose around 60... but la endorsements (over three years) with possible chips, lose 40?

possible sweetheart deal after that if said chips are won.

[gambit1990]

meant to edit post above

[gambit1990]

second mess up, disregard :lol

[mo7888]

i'm trying to rationalize how much of a buyout cp3 would agree to. i could see 35 or 40 but okc has all the power and i guess they would try to top out at 20.

so if he agreed to 25 he'd lose around 95. sign a small one year deal, then 3 for 48? so ultimately lose around 60... but la endorsements (over three years) with possible chips, lose 40?

possible sweetheart deal after that if said chips are won.

If he agreed to a 25M buyout.... he couldn't be bought out because his remaining salary would still be over 15% of the cap. Unless he gives between 40M and 50M he cant be bought out by rule.

[Mr. Body]

Anyone who think the president of the players association is going to take a ridiculous buyout to go ringchase is nuts tbh

Oh, he certainly would if he could. He completely structured the last CBA to benefit players like himself. He's all about himself.

[barakz21]

Seems like the only good thing CP0 is for nowadays would be the State Farm commercials of years past with Cliff Paul.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

He is one of my least favorite players of all time. No thanks. I hope he implodes Oklahoma.

[exstatic]

He is one of my least favorite players of all time. No thanks. I hope he implodes Oklahoma.

My lasting impression of CP3 is him running off the court after losing game 7 vs the NOH without congratulating anyone, including his friend TP. That's kind of him in a nutshell.

[cd98]

If CP3 gets a buy out, he's absolutely going to LeBron.

[John B]

They should try to match him with Tacho Falls for Lob City 2.

[cjw]

If he agreed to a 25M buyout.... he couldn't be bought out because his remaining salary would still be over 15% of the cap. Unless he gives between 40M and 50M he cant be bought out by rule.

Can’t it be stretched over seven years (3*2 +1)? That would get them under 15% assuming he gives a nominal amount back.

I don’t see them doing that though. Not going to pay him to play elsewhere for peanuts.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

If CP3 gets a buy out, he's absolutely going to LeBron.

Banana boats are bonds for life.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1151614409204273152

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1151649484939485184

[GusT15]

Magette had a what now? :rollin

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1151649484939485184

Interesting. Spurs Geniuses shat on him all over this board, but he wasn't that bad.

[GusT15]

Interesting. Spurs Geniuses shat on him all over this board, but he wasn't that bad.

He is too tiny for the NBA.He was small and unathletic in the Summer League.He was small and unathletic for the Greek League when i watched him play 4 years ago.

It doesn't take a basketball genius to understand when a player has unsolvable,through work and training,limitations.

[Mr. Body]

He is too tiny for the NBA.He was small and unathletic in the Summer League.He was small and unathletic for the Greek League when i watched him play 4 years ago.

It doesn't take a basketball genius to understand when a player has unsolvable,through work and training,limitations.

Well, I guess you're smarter than NBA front offices, then.

[GusT15]

Well, I guess you're smarter than NBA front offices, then.

Well,i guess you can't make an actual argument so you'll just try to use unwarranted sarcasm and irony.

[Mr. Body]

Well,i guess you can't make an actual argument so you'll just try to use unwarranted sarcasm and irony.

You: This guy is shit.

Me: Nah, he has serviceable skills. Look, an NBA team agrees with me.

You: This guy is shit.

Me: *walks away*

[GusT15]

You: This guy is shit.

Me: Nah, he has serviceable skills. Look, an NBA team agrees with me.

You: This guy is shit.

Me: *walks away*

Where exactly did i say that he's shit?
I said that he is limited,i certainly don't agree he had a good showing in the Summer League as Haynes said and i believe he is not playable in the NBA.

You on the other hand have said absolutely nothing other that "The Magic gave him a 2way so he's good".

Well the Magic have done a lot of stupid things as a FO so there's that.

Magette can pass,and he can shoot.He's 6 feet tall and tiny.He will not be able to either pass or shoot in the NBA.That's what i'm saying.You have to say something on your own instead of what Orlando has done?

[Dennis the Menace]

Well, I guess you're smarter than NBA front offices, then.

Compared to front offices like the Knicks and Suns? Lol that might be a fair statement

[Mugen]

Well, I guess you're smarter than NBA front offices, then.

Than the Magic? Fucking probably :lol

[Mr. Body]

Than the Magic? Fucking probably :lol

On this board? No.

[Joseph Kony]

Lol using the Magic as an example of nba front office's talent evaluation :lmao

[Joseph Kony]

i mean shit, Masai Ujiri just gave Cameron Payne a 2 year deal and that kid is not an NBA level player at all

[Mr. Body]

i mean shit, Masai Ujiri just gave Cameron Payne a 2 year deal and that kid is not an NBA level player at all

You guys really need to put your resumes in. The basketball world is missing some greatness.

[Joseph Kony]

You guys really need to put your resumes in. The basketball world is missing some greatness.

so you think all front offices are infallible and if they sign a player they MUST be a legit talent? :lmao please dude. take your appeal to authority elsewhere

[Robz4000]

Mr. Body, are you implying the Knicks and Suns know what they're doing?

[TimDunkem]

Lol using the Magic as an example of nba front office's talent evaluation :lmao

:lmao

[Mugen]

so you think all front offices are infallible and if they sign a player they MUST be a legit talent? :lmao please dude. take your appeal to authority elsewhere
cutewizard could have probably gotten the Suns in the playoffs by now tbh :lol

[BWS-1994]

cutewizard could have probably gotten the Suns in the playoffs by now tbh :lol

Scouting and hyping report by cutewizard

[r0drig0lac]

Scouting and hyping report by cutewizard

https://media.giphy.com/media/FXo3Din7pWybK/giphy.gif

[Ron Swanson]

cutewizard (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19861) could have probably gotten the Suns in the playoffs by now tbh :lol

"Ok, we're going to prep for the upcoming series. You all need to watch the following 325 Youtube videos by tomorrow."

[RC_Drunkford]

all the Magic do is sign players that the Spurs don't want. Remember Garino?

[John B]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1151649484939485184
:wow:wow:wow

[John B]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1151649484939485184
:wow:wow:wow

[Em-City]

all the Magic do is sign players that the Spurs don't want. Remember Garino?
Jonathon Simmons tbh

[Drom John]

Weatherspoon > Magette, so no two-way with Spurs.
G.Robinson playing downhill and getting the ball to others > Magette overdribbling, means I'd prefer G.Robinson in the G-League.
I do think Magette would beat G.Robinson 1on1, mostly on defense.
In person I liked Magette over Abdul Gaddy, the opposing PG in the earthquake game.

[Dejounte]

i mean shit, Masai Ujiri just gave Cameron Payne a 2 year deal and that kid is not an NBA level player at all

The Raptors just won the championship and youre questioning their moves?

[TD 21]

The Raptors just won the championship and youre questioning their moves?

:lmao Nothing screams casual fan like spouting results bereft of context.

The Raptors only rang because the scumbag, sleazebag and senile Spurs front office conspired to make the worst trade of all time and the Warriors were decimated by injury.

Let's not act like we need to bow down to the Raptors for being the beneficiates of historic luck. Fans and media alike made this mistake with the Spurs, Warriors and to a lesser extent, Thunder, Rockets, Celtics, in the past half decade alone. How smart do they look right about now?

All of these recent championships are tainted because these divas are creating the circumstances by which they come about, as opposed to them occurring organically.

[cutewizard]

:flipoff

[Dejounte]

:lmao Nothing screams casual fan like spouting results bereft of context.

The Raptors only rang because the scumbag, sleazebag and senile Spurs front office conspired to make the worst trade of all time and the Warriors were decimated by injury.

Let's not act like we need to bow down to the Raptors for being the beneficiates of historic luck. Fans and media alike made this mistake with the Spurs, Warriors and to a lesser extent, Thunder, Rockets, Celtics, in the past half decade alone. How smart do they look right about now?

All of these recent championships are tainted because these divas are creating the circumstances by which they come about, as opposed to them occurring organically.

Casual fan? Lmfao this coming from a poster who has such vanilla crybaby takes

[cutewizard]

i wonder who is working his butt out right now

[cutewizard]

i wonder who is launching a thousand threes in a day!!!!

[Dex]

i wonder who is working his butt out right now


i wonder who is launching a thousand threes in a day!!!!

I'm gonna make it in this league one day, I tell ya.

[kobyz]

What type of a deal it will take to trade for Bobby Portis? I think he's the type of third big we need, would Patty/Milutinov rights/2 second picks enough of an offer?

[sasaint]

What type of a deal it will take to trade for Bobby Portis? I think he's the type of third big we need, would Patty/Milutinov rights/2 second picks enough of an offer?

Ever since that fracas in Chicago Portis’ stock seems to have trended downward.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1152280110839533568

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1152609436218941440

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1152609436218941440

LOL, Juliet Korver. Milwaukee is a trashier San Antonio, with a bitter cold winter. Enjoy.

[BackHome]

How much you wanna bet she doesn’t even move there. Lol ..I Love Karma.....:hungry:

[sasaint]

LOL, Juliet Korver. Milwaukee is a trashier San Antonio, with a bitter cold winter. Enjoy.

I don’t know the Juliet story. Something like the Joumana story?

[K...]

I don’t know the Juliet story. Something like the Joumana story?

The Spurs wanted to sign him but the wife said no, there's all

[sasaint]

I don’t know the Juliet story. Something like the Joumana story?

When?

[tonight...you]

The Spurs wanted to sign him but the wife said no, there's all
So he cucks all over the place.

[spurraider21]

So he cucks all over the place.
do you know what cuck means?

[slick'81]

Nikola Milutinov will remain in Europe with Olympiacos for at least one more season.
Milutinov, drafted 26th overall by the Spurs in 2015, is entering the final year of his contract with the Greek powerhouse. He led his team, coached by David Blatt, in scoring and rebounding in the EuroLeague last season. Milutinov and the Spurs will likely have a decision to make this time next summer.

SOURCE: Eurohoops.net (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/909912/spurs-informed-olympiacos-they-wont-get-milutinov-this-summer/)
Jul 20, 2019, 9:43 PM ET

[tonight...you]

do you know what cuck means?
Does it have anything to do with peppercorn ranch?

[spurraider21]

Nikola Milutinov will remain in Europe with Olympiacos for at least one more season.


Milutinov, drafted 26th overall by the Spurs in 2015, is entering the final year of his contract with the Greek powerhouse. He led his team, coached by David Blatt, in scoring and rebounding in the EuroLeague last season. Milutinov and the Spurs will likely have a decision to make this time next summer.

SOURCE: Eurohoops.net (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/909912/spurs-informed-olympiacos-they-wont-get-milutinov-this-summer/)
Jul 20, 2019, 9:43 PM ET
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[sasaint]

Timed to replace LMA.

[BackHome]

Oh gee we bringing David or Timmy back Yippie :spin

[RC_Drunkford]

According to Clan the Spurs fan Spurs are looking at Danny DeVito. He's saying Spurs scouts were seen at the game in Europe

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1153671366761164800

[cd98]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1153671366761164800

Didn't realize he was still out there. He probably will flop like most of the Kansas players have lately, but I always thought the Spurs could make something out of him. Of course, what player don't we think the Spurs could develop.

[cool cat]

Didn't realize he was still out there. He probably will flop like most of the Kansas players have lately, but I always thought the Spurs could make something out of him. Of course, what player don't we think the Spurs could develop.

Jimmer

[Duncan87]

JD Shaw (https://twitter.com/JShawNBA) @JShawNBA (https://twitter.com/JShawNBA)
about 1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/JShawNBA/status/1153996803894853637)
Free agent guard Josh Huestis has reached agreement on a deal with FC Bayern Munich in Germany, per the team.

[sananspursfan21]

Didn't realize he was still out there. He probably will flop like most of the Kansas players have lately, but I always thought the Spurs could make something out of him. Of course, what player don't we think the Spurs could develop.

If anyone could make something of him, it would be the Spurs. Microwave scorer. But isn’t he pretty much the polar opposite of what Pop would go for?

[K...]

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How'd tspence miss this?

[timtonymanu]

Should have retired

[Dex]

1154116983484555264

How'd tspence miss this?

Will be fun to abuse him in the pick & roll three-to-four games this year.

3RIfwtoCa-4

[NASpurs]

And not a single tear was shed.

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[Dex]

And not a single tear was shed.

1154126530760577024

PLAYERS ONLY BABY!!!

Seriously, thank god that we don't have to suffer through anymore of those broadcasts.

Now if they can just get rid of Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson, I may be able to un-mute the TV during games.

[cd021]

And not a single tear was shed.

1154126530760577024

Horrible idea to do it in the first place tbh.

[TD 21]

I knew Gasol would sign with the Trail Blazers. The Clippers were the only other team that made sense on paper, but for obvious reasons that was never happening.

Considering the Trail Blazers have the highest payroll in the league and he's now superfluous and likely not in their plans, if the Spurs wanted to they could probably get Labissiere for Metu at this point.

[gambit1990]

And not a single tear was shed.

1154126530760577024
thank god.

[Seventyniner]

1154116983484555264

How'd tspence miss this?

I wonder how he's going to handle being the third-string C once Nurkic comes back.

[tonight...you]

PLAYERS ONLY BABY!!!

Seriously, thank god that we don't have to suffer through anymore of those broadcasts.

Now if they can just get rid of Reggie Miller and Mark Jackson, I may be able to un-mute the TV during games.
From your keyboard to the Great Architect's soul.
Let's stamp out that awfulness once and for all.

[TD 21]

I wonder how he's going to handle being the third-string C once Nurkic comes back.

If Nurkic does return, it'll be late in the season, so he'll still get more minutes leading up to that than he would elsewhere and he'll get to be on a pseudo contender.

Also, if Love stays relatively healthy and still looks All-Star caliber, I wouldn't be surprised if they trade Whiteside, either Hezonja or Trent and a 1st for him.

[beirmeistr]

O/t showing 1991 game spurs/jazz on nba tv 3rd quarter

[DPG21920]

thank god.

That show was like the TV version of you on here.

[gambit1990]

That show was like the TV version of you on here.
me, before last season started: raptors are winning it all with kawhi
you, during the playoffs: spurs might ultimately win the kawhi-demar trade
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[Fusternino]

Do we get any financial relief due to the new Gasol deal?

[cool cat]

Do we get any financial relief due to the new Gasol deal?

No but he is off the books next year so it doesn't matter.

[TimDunkem]

me, before last season started: raptors are winning it all with kawhi
you, during the playoffs: spurs might ultimately win the kawhi-demar trade
https://media2.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/source.gif

:lmao but we got Turdle and gave them cash for the privilege!

[cutewizard]

From your keyboard to the Great Architect's soul.
Let's stamp out that awfulness once and for all.


I admire poets, hehehe

[szkorhetz]

Would you trade Mills for Anderson?

[Fusternino]

Would do Mills for Anderson all day.

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1153671366761164800

One of the most entertaining scrubs in recent history.

[BackHome]

90

[ZeusWillJudge]

I had heard that Marvin Williams might be available for trade, and I talked about it earlier in the summer. Belli and Bertans' contracts would just about have made the money work - the Spurs might have had to give up a future second along with that. Now the rumors have finally started going public. I linked to one, just for an example, but there are a lot of them.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-hornets-marvin-williams-definitely-available/vxa36dqrvc0n1fiwv39q4a1sl


I would have rather had him than Lyles. I know he's young and has some theoretical potential, but Williams would have really checked some boxes for this season. And a two for one would have cleared a roster spot.

[venitian navigator]

Dragan Bender has signed with Milwaukee on a two year's deal (x sportando). There goes my second reclamation project (the other one being Stanley Johnson, now with the Raptors on a two years deal with second player option).
One thing to say is that looks like both contracts are more or less a one year deal for very limited money with some little insurance for the second year...and that's not what I wanted the Spurs to sign them for (at least three year deals with no player but team options every year or at least after year two)...
These two are, imho, clear examples of mismanagement by the player's themselves and their agents...because the talent of both these guys is obvious but so are their weaknesses that are really big at an nba level and for fixing them you absolutely need, other than your will and committment to improve :
a) a good training and coaching staff;
b) a lot of training time and a good, reliable and stable environment for training and, finally
c) as much playing time as you can after the first one/two seasons spent in learning and developing...

As of now looks they both are gonna be a waste of nba talent because, as of now, they are not playable for long stratches except for same special teams opportunities...and the money and lenght of their contracts means they are not gonna be played a lot nor they are gonna be trained and coached (except something exceptional happens) after their first season. In few words these contracts are boom or bust in a short period of time ...aka contracts made for veterans with quite a last chance to secceed, not contracts for some developmental project. Imho that's the way, in a 80% of cases, to take these young and lottery talented players out of nba.
Losing a big time young talent just because you're so blind and dumb that you don't understand that, also if you are talented, becoming an nba player of good level takes time and its a process it's, imho, inexcusable by player's agents but also by players themselves that have to learn to make better choices and have a long term plan for their future...

[Dex]

Forbes looks like he beefed up a bit.

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[KDKSpurs24]

Forbes looks like he beefed up a bit.

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I honestly think Forbes is still improving and gaining a type confidence where he’s gonna be extremely effective on offense. He will still have a big role on the team. But even tho I have a feeling Bryn is gonna be really good this season, i just wish we could cut all of Patty’s minutes because I still don’t want them on the floor at the same time. Because it would hurt the defense and defeat the purpose of Bryn’s improvement.

[Mugen]

:lol Pop probably plans on him guarding those wings in the West

[John B]

He has great forms though. Among the 3pt shooters, he has the best upsides if he can defend better.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Carchia/status/1156798796162109440

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1157670204232622080

[Chinook]

Klutch being willing to agree to an extension in lieu of their client testing the market is really good for the Spurs. If they are confident Murray's healed, locking DeJounte up now is a good move. Only way it's not is if the Spurs were seriously going after cap space next summer and trade Gay and/or Mills this year. There's no point in extending if it's near $20 Million APY. But $60M-70M? Maybe they'll do that and not pull a Noel.

[Ignazzz]

60/4 or 70/5?

[Chinook]

60/4 or 70/5?

Can only get a five-year deal if it starts at the max. I was thinking $60M/4 would be a very nice extension, but even $10 Million more would be acceptable for me. I've said multiple times that I think Murray is likely to get around $100M/4 if he's anywhere near good enough to justify the hope surrounding him. I don't want to get into here, but the Spurs seem to love him enough to go that high, so getting him for way lower than that is worth losing a small chance the team plays free agency next summer.

I wouldn't extend him for anything more than $72 Million over four years unless there are some non-guarantees/incentives. There's very little upside at that point. It's really hard to see him becoming a $170M/5 guy, but he does, you just suck it up and pay the price then. With the injury and having DeRozan, Aldriridge, White and Gay in front of him, it's hard to see Murray making more than $110M-120M (and even that's more likely to be over five years than four).

[ace3g]

dang

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1158488779046477824

[Dex]

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https://i.imgur.com/Nrh4Sjx.jpg

[RD2191]

1165009026574430209

https://i.imgur.com/Nrh4Sjx.jpg

Lakers :lmao

[dbestpro]

I knew the Spurs and Pacers were dead last in the NBA in 3-point attempts, but did you know the Spurs were last in shots within three feet of the rim?

[Dex]

I knew the Spurs and Pacers were dead last in the NBA in 3-point attempts, but did you know the Spurs were last in shots within three feet of the rim?

I did not know that.

Do you know what would help us know that?

Some kind of source or link.

[kobyz]

1165009026574430209

https://i.imgur.com/Nrh4Sjx.jpg
Spurs should have went after him, they are very thin at the center position

[dbestpro]

I did not know that.

Do you know what would help us know that?

Some kind of source or link.

Found it in this article. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-30-nba-teams-by-playoff-potential-why-only-one-team-stands-out-above-the-rest/

[widowmaker]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/53d8cd28-17c0-4d3b-8df9-627914853f40

[Seventyniner]

Found it in this article. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-30-nba-teams-by-playoff-potential-why-only-one-team-stands-out-above-the-rest/

It's rather amazing that Pop made that into a top-7 offense.

It's also bullshit that the author dismisses the Spurs' offense as anachronistic when it was better than that of 23 other teams. He has that all too common bias that an offense that doesn't fit what a good NBA offense "should be" cannot possibly be good, even when the evidence makes a liar of him.

[Dex]

Found it in this article. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-30-nba-teams-by-playoff-potential-why-only-one-team-stands-out-above-the-rest/

Interesting article. Thanks :tu

Call me an optimist, but I feel like lumping us with the Pacers, Heat, and Raptors is a stretch, even in the stacked West.

I guess we are officially under the radar again...and that's fine, tbh.

[Dex]

Spurs should have went after him, they are very thin at the center position


No. Even the Lakers are going into this with pull cord in case they need to jettison Howard at any time.

Pop would probably put Dwight Howard down behind practice facility.

[Seventyniner]

Interesting article. Thanks :tu

Call me an optimist, but I feel like lumping us with the Pacers, Heat, and Raptors is a stretch, even in the stacked West.

I guess we are officially under the radar again...and that's fine, tbh.

These weren't title favorite or power rankings, but rankings of which teams are best built to perform in the postseason once they get there. That makes the two lowest tiers easy because those teams almost certainly won't even make the playoffs.

Judging by the criteria the author set, rankings the Spurs in that tier is fair. DeRozan is a good one-on-one shot creator, but the Spurs' wing depth is subpar etc.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1174382543950491650

[SpursDynasty85]

Does anyone know when training camp starts?

Edit: Never mind. Looks like the 24 teams not participating in the world games will all begin October 1st. https://in.nba.com/news/when-do-nba-training-camps-open-2019-20-season/znnlk0uf29u21kul43s2lzpjh

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1174783369298812928