Spurs 2019 offseason thread

[EricB]

The warriors were sick of DeMarcus Cousins after only one season. The Spurs aren’t touching him with a ten foot pole.

[gambit1990]

https://mobile.twitter.com/fishsports/status/1146202675718963201
“next big domino”... okay :lol

[timvp]

So, I assume that if Neph re-signs with the Raptors, that the Raptors would then re-sign Green. If Neph leaves, they probably don't re-sign Green since Green is the type of player who needs a superstar next to him to be worth top dollar.

If Neph signs with the Clippers, do they still have room for Green? I've lost count of their salary cap status but I think that they wouldn't have room for both. I could be wrong though ... or they could move contracts to make it happen.

If Neph signs with the Lakers, Green wouldn't tag along for the minimum. That's when he'd go for the money, which sounds like it could be the Mavs.

Smart move by Mavs, tbh. Especially if Doncic turns into the type of superstar player who would max out Green's value ... and it looks like that will be the case.

Green even talking about other teams tells me that Neph is unlikely to re-sign with the Raps.

But who the hell knows, tbh.

[slick'81]

So, I assume that if Neph re-signs with the Raptors, that the Raptors would then re-sign Green. If Neph leaves, they probably don't re-sign Green since Green is the type of player who needs a superstar next to him to be worth top dollar.

If Neph signs with the Clippers, do they still have room for Green? I've lost count of their salary cap status but I think that they wouldn't have room for both. I could be wrong though ... or they could move contracts to make it happen.

If Neph signs with the Lakers, Green wouldn't tag along for the minimum. That's when he'd go for the money, which sounds like it could be the Mavs.

Smart move by Mavs, tbh. Especially if Doncic turns into the type of superstar player who would max out Green's value ... and it looks like that will be the case.

Green even talking about other teams tells me that Neph is unlikely to re-sign with the Raps.

But who the hell knows, tbh.


Hes a laker bruh

[sasaint]

“next big domino”... okay :lol

:lol You beat me to it!

[joeyjfive]

Just saw Cousins has been in contact with DeRozan. Per Shams.

[joeyjfive]

https://twitter.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1146402326158041093?s=21

[DavidTheGoliath]

Oh shit. Fiery coach meets emotional lesbian!

Good thing we have rudy to slap some sense to boogie. IF he ever signs to SA anyways.

[mo7888]

I would love to have cousins on a two year deal

[TimDunkem]

He doesn't move the needle, but fuck it. We're not contenders anyway. Sign him.

[HarlemHeat37]

So, I assume that if Neph re-signs with the Raptors, that the Raptors would then re-sign Green. If Neph leaves, they probably don't re-sign Green since Green is the type of player who needs a superstar next to him to be worth top dollar.

If Neph signs with the Clippers, do they still have room for Green? I've lost count of their salary cap status but I think that they wouldn't have room for both. I could be wrong though ... or they could move contracts to make it happen.

If Neph signs with the Lakers, Green wouldn't tag along for the minimum. That's when he'd go for the money, which sounds like it could be the Mavs.

Smart move by Mavs, tbh. Especially if Doncic turns into the type of superstar player who would max out Green's value ... and it looks like that will be the case.

Green even talking about other teams tells me that Neph is unlikely to re-sign with the Raps.

But who the hell knows, tbh.

It's not a given that MLSE would pay the tax to keep Green, though..it does seem like he ends up on the Mavs once Kawhi goes to the Lakers .

[Texas_Ranger]

The Golden State Warriors have rescinded guard Quinn Cook’s qualifying offer, making him an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[SpursRussia]

The Golden State Warriors have rescinded guard Quinn Cook’s qualifying offer, making him an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Dump the hell out of Mills and Belli and get this guy, better than both these corpses combined, much younger also

Pipe dream tho

[John B]

https://twitter.com/jeffgspurszone/status/1146402326158041093?s=21
I would think Demar recruiting would have the blessing of RC/Pop, otherwise he wouldn’t coz it’s futile. Cousins still trying to get paid from whoever strikeout. Trade any of Bertans, Belli or Mills to a contender who needs a shooter, and bring this guy in. He is a low risk with huge potential return. If healthy, our lineup could take anybody, and potentially thwart nephew’s ringing with LeBron and AD. Fuck that would be awesome. I think Pop calls him makes a huge difference coming on board.

[Gordy58]

He doesn't move the needle, but fuck it. We're not contenders anyway. Sign him.
We are contenders though

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Darius Miller has agreed to a two-year, $14.25M deal to stay with New Orleans, league source tells ESPN. The second-year is non-guaranteed.

[Mugen]

So, I assume that if Neph re-signs with the Raptors, that the Raptors would then re-sign Green. If Neph leaves, they probably don't re-sign Green since Green is the type of player who needs a superstar next to him to be worth top dollar.

If Neph signs with the Clippers, do they still have room for Green? I've lost count of their salary cap status but I think that they wouldn't have room for both. I could be wrong though ... or they could move contracts to make it happen.

If Neph signs with the Lakers, Green wouldn't tag along for the minimum. That's when he'd go for the money, which sounds like it could be the Mavs.

Smart move by Mavs, tbh. Especially if Doncic turns into the type of superstar player who would max out Green's value ... and it looks like that will be the case.

Green even talking about other teams tells me that Neph is unlikely to re-sign with the Raps.

But who the hell knows, tbh.

:lol What's the latest with your laker source? I thought it was 100% happening? I just hope he announces it today tbh....

[Texas_Ranger]

Memphis has agreed to trade Chandler Parsons to Atlanta for Solomon Hill and Miles Plumlee, league sources tell ESPN.

Memphis and Parsons were unable to agree on a buyout number, so Grizzlies made the trade with Atlanta. As BobbyMarks42 says, it's easier to move out salaries by breaking Parsons' $25M into two smaller contracts. Hawks free a roster spot.

[Harry Callahan]

Yeah, the Mavies bit the big one on C Parsons. He stole a lot of Cuban's money.

[Dverde]

“next big domino”... okay :lol

Go get your money Danny! He deserves a plaque in Pop’s scrub to millionaire wall.

[Dverde]

Obviously DDR didn’t leak his phone call with Cousins. I think this is Cousin’s agent trying to get a team to pay him more money than the Spurs. I’m guessing he goes to Atlanta or Rockets.

[RiverwalkParade]

Obviously DDR didn’t leak his phone call with Cousins. I think this is Cousin’s agent trying to get a team to pay him more money than the Spurs. I’m guessing he goes to Atlanta or Rockets.

Yup. Happens every year

[Duncan87]

Bob an to Mavs. Noooooooooo

[Duncan87]

Damn Boban anyone but them

[Harry Callahan]

Regarding BM, these players don't care about team rivalries.

They want their money.

They are mercenaries now more than ever. It's not a good thing IMHO.

The Mavies just paid $158MM for a guy (the big Latvian) who may be damaged goods and are now picking up leftovers like Boban. They rarely draft well and develop players. They aren't as knee jerk as Houston, but they have their moments.

The Mavericks are trying to be the whitest team in the league, that's for sure. They are trying to bring in non-American players. Cuban himself admitted they are shying away from American players right now. The training and coaching overseas is often pretty good whereas the college programs in the US don't have the players long enough to fully develop them.

[Texas_Ranger]

Boban Marjanovic is signing a two-year, $7M deal with the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[Texas_Ranger]

Europeans will love going to Dallas cause pretty much everyone wants to play with Luka.

[Dex]

These players don't care about team rivalries. They want their money. They are mercenaries now more than ever. It's not a good thing IMHO.

The Mavies just paid $158MM for a guy who may be damaged goods and are now picking up leftovers. They rarely draft well and develop players. They aren't as knee jerk as Houston, but they have their moments.

Cuban is a businessman, and Boban is a money-maker. He has been a fan favorite everywhere he goes.

[Seventyniner]

Damn, Tobi and Bobi broke up.

But get dat money Boban.

[Harry Callahan]

I would have enjoyed seeing Boban back here, but he has his limitations regarding mobility. He's actually a really good guy from everything I've seen. An added plus - a nice bad guy role in John Wick 3.......

[SAGirl]

Cuban is a businessman, and Boban is a money-maker. He has been a fan favorite everywhere he goes.
He certainly has a lot of charisma.

[loveforthegame]

Does the Boban signing effect them signing Green now?

[SAGirl]

Memphis has agreed to trade Chandler Parsons to Atlanta for Solomon Hill and Miles Plumlee, league sources tell ESPN.

Memphis and Parsons were unable to agree on a buyout number, so Grizzlies made the trade with Atlanta. As Bob (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9095)byMarks42 says, it's easier to move out salaries by breaking Parsons' $25M into two smaller contracts. Hawks free a roster spot.
Glad for Memphis able to finally get out of that deal without unloading picks, which was counterproductive for a rebuilding team. I thought they were never going to be able to move it.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Markieff Morris has agreed to a deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StefanieLasuik/status/1146491314462240773

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent TJ McConnell has agreed to deal with Pacers, league source tells ESPN.

Deal is two-years, $7M.

[loveforthegame]

Is there enough free agents left for the Lakers to even sign at this point? If Leonard is headed there he’s fucked that team.

[tbdog]

If Leonard ditches lakers, they have no one to pick up and no assets to trade. Danny Green should hold off.

[Texas_Ranger]

The Grizzlies are trading Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter to the Suns for DeAnthony Melton, Josh Jackson 2020 second-round pick and 2021 conditional second-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

[Dex]

Is there enough free agents left for the Lakers to even sign at this point? If Leonard is headed there he’s fucked that team.

My only hope is that he is taking his sweet-ass time just to weaken the Lakers odds in free agency, then ends up going to the Clips or (preferably) stays in Toronto.

But knowing Nephew, he is just being a stubborn little bitch and is holding off his decision because he knows everyone wants to know, and he will still end up going to the Lakers.

If he does end up going to the Lakers, he's definitely hurt their own odds in the process.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

My only hope is that he is taking his sweet-ass time just to weaken the Lakers odds in free agency, then ends up going to the Clips or (preferably) stays in Toronto.

But knowing Nephew, he is just being a stubborn little bitch and is holding off his decision because he knows everyone wants to know, and he will still end up going to the Lakers.

If he does end up going to the Lakers, he's definitely hurt their own odds in the process.

Exactly.

[slick'81]

My only hope is that he is taking his sweet-ass time just to weaken the Lakers odds in free agency, then ends up going to the Clips or (preferably) stays in Toronto.

But knowing Nephew, he is just being a stubborn little bitch and is holding off his decision because he knows everyone wants to know, and he will still end up going to the Lakers.

If he does end up going to the Lakers, he's definitely hurt their own odds in the process.

not really they probably have jr smith,kcp,mcgee,rondo,iggy ,rj lol,korver etc waiting in the wings ....nvm they fcked

[Texas_Ranger]

Suns are planning to buyout the partially guaranteed contract of Kyle Korver, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers, Sixers and Bucks are frontrunners to sign Korver once he clears waivers, sources said.

[Clipper Nation]

If he does end up going to the Lakers, he's definitely hurt their own odds in the process.

Not really. If he goes to the Lakers, they could fill out the rest of the roster with scrubs from the Chinese league and still coast to easy, anti-competitive rings.

[Dex]

Suns are planning to buyout the partially guaranteed contract of Kyle Korver, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers, Sixers and Bucks are frontrunners to sign Korver once he clears waivers, sources said.

Isn't Korver like 68 years old?

[Texas_Ranger]

Isn't Korver like 68 years old?

well, the lakers will probably only sign the old guys. :rollin

[Dverde]

What kind of idiot waits this long to have meetings. They had weeks to prepare. Hell they had all last season to think about free agency.

[slick'81]

What kind of idiot waits this long to have meetings. They had weeks to prepare. Hell they had all last season to think about free agency.


All this bs with him wanting to be in la and he ends up staying in tor:lol

[MoSpur02]

Supposedly Memphis is looking at possibly trading Avery Bradley. If they take Mills not Belinelli then sign me up.

[SpursDynasty85]

Supposedly Memphis is looking at possibly trading Avery Bradley. If they take Mills not Belinelli then sign me up.

I would trade both of them for Bradley.

[Pavlov]

Supposedly Memphis is looking at possibly trading Avery Bradley. If they take Mills not Belinelli then sign me up.No more guards pls.

[slick'81]

I would trade both of them for Bradley.


To bad they wouldnt

[MoSpur02]

No more guards pls.

If you can get rid of Beli and Mills you most certainly add Bradley.

[Pavlov]

I'd you get ride of Beli and Mills you most certainly add Bradley.Meh, I don't want vets taking up the young guys' playing time. But in a vacuum, sure.

[Dverde]

But who would lead the coffee gang?

[slick'81]

But who would lead the coffee gang?


We all know mills plays out that contract

[Atl Spur]

I’d take Bradley.......

[spurs10]

Bummersville...Marjanovic, Mavs reportedly reach dealBoban Marjanovic is set to head back to the Western Conference.

[ZeusWillJudge]

"Hey #Raptors fans. Danny Green “hopes” to drop his free agency decision tonight greenroomInside
Side note: he says he’s 25% Canadian after taking our trivia quiz. He says he knows more Canadian geography than American."


Lucky for him he didn't have to put the ball on the floor to get there.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Free agent Darius Miller has agreed to a two-year, $14.25M deal to stay with New Orleans, league source tells ESPN. The second-year is non-guaranteed.


He was the guy I wanted under the MLE. If he has a good year in NO, I'll come back and say I Told You So. If he doesn't, I'll forget all about it. :lol

I think his preference was to stay - they really love him in NO. I think the Spurs could have gotten him, and a 2-year deal is exactly what they're after. I hope Carroll has a good season.

[tonight...you]

"Hey #Raptors fans. Danny Green “hopes” to drop his free agency decision tonight greenroom (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6028)Inside
Side note: he says he’s 25% Canadian after taking our trivia quiz. He says he knows more Canadian geography than American."


Lucky for him he didn't have to put the ball on the floor to get there.
Most of Canada is like far West Texas with snow.
They can't identify with anything more than local and isolation.
Shoot, El Paso identifies more with Mexico and New Mexico than Texas and the United States.

[MoSpur02]

Supposedly Portland and Minnesota are gonna make a trade

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146577447791603717

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146577279306407936

[MoSpur02]

Thanks for the details ace3g.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Most of Canada is like far West Texas with snow.
They can't identify with anything more than local and isolation.
Shoot, El Paso identifies more with Mexico and New Mexico than Texas and the United States.


It wasn't really about the geography. It's Danny Green, see? If he's had to put the ball on the floor, he never would have... never mind.

West Texas with snow, huh?

[tonight...you]

It wasn't really about the geography. It's Danny Green, see? If he's had to put the ball on the floor, he never would have... never mind.

West Texas with snow, huh?
Been to one for an accumulation of... a long time and live in another.
Far West Texas is Canada with snow.
Aside from the skin color and switch French to Spanish...
And the stigma...
And the wall...
And the...

Well, I go from there.

[Dverde]

https://i.imgur.com/okmiACy_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1146644368645742592

[slick'81]

https://mobile.twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1146644368645742592


Of course rockets are in :cry

[GusT15]

https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM/status/1146545348795437057

[ace3g]

#SadFace

https://twitter.com/Sportando/status/1146752881934163968

[ace3g]

I didn't even know he was a FA.

https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/1146830345280659457

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1146605170618445831

[Ron Swanson]

I had to look at the date of that tweet to make sure it was from this year.

[Texas_Ranger]

amare, ellis, justin holiday and kyle korver.... wow, lakers assembeling a dream team i see.

[ace3g]

Projecting starting salaries for the best available NBA free agents
Small forwards

Player
Team
Age
FA Type
Starting salary


Kawhi Leonard
TOR
30
Franchise
$32.7 million


Kelly Oubre Jr. (restricted)
PHX
23
Starter
$12-14 million


Stanley Johnson
NOP
23
Rotation A
$4-6 million


Furkan Korkmaz
PHI
21
Rotation B
$4-6 million


Justin Anderson
ATL
25
Rotation B
Minimum


Corey Brewer
SAC
33
Rotation B
Minimum


Quincy Pondexter
SAS
31
Rotation B
Minimum


Thabo Sefolosha
UTA
35
Rotation B
Minimum


Sam Dekker
WAS
25
Rotation B
Minimum


Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
CHI
24
Development



Jaron Blossomgame
CLE
25
Development



Deng Adel
CLE
22
Development



Vince Edwards
HOU
23
Development



Davon Reed
IND
24
Development



George King
PHX
25
Development



Troy Williams
SAC
24
Development





https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/27076926/projecting-starting-salaries-best-available-nba-free-agents

[loveforthegame]

That’s just sad. Lakers if they don’t get Leonard. :lol

[JeffDuncan]

Age of 30?

Leonard is 28.

[NASpurs]

amare, ellis, justin holiday and kyle korver.... wow, lakers assembeling a dream team i see.

Wrong decade for most of those players.

[Dejounte]

Frank Mason just got waived. Lmao which "spur fan" was it that said we missed out on him?

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1146854669836328960

[Harry Callahan]

Age of 30?

Leonard is 28.

He has 30 YO knees. Maybe 31.

[tonight...you]

He has 30 YO knees. Maybe 31.
Maybe 45.

[Harry Callahan]

Maybe 45.

I was trying to be nice for once. Let's go with 37 or 38 YO knees.

[tonight...you]

I was trying to be nice for once. Let's go with 37 or 38 YO knees.
We can work with this...

[Fusternino]

Spurs really missed out on Louis King.

[barakz21]

Spurs really missed out on Louis King.

If the spurs took him or Roby in the 2nd round, that would’ve been an awesome draft for them. QDub thus far has been nice, except that he’s a guard. And they have a ton of those. Down the line I could see him in the Patty role (‘14 season) but probably as a 3rd stringer.

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/1146901785786949634

[ace3g]

#FormerSpursDraftPick

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1146891227377426439

[r0drig0lac]

League executives believe Robert Covington could be on the trade market again, per windhorstESPN

[Degoat]

Spurs don’t have it in them to make a deal for Covington :bang:bang

[slick'81]

League executives believe Robert Covington could be on the trade market again, per wind (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14572)horstESPN


Belli/mills?!

[XDT76]

Belli/mills?!

They can have both if they want.

[TXstbobcat]

They can have both if they want.

Wolves don’t want either of them

[slick'81]

Wolves don’t want either of them


One of these days that culture is gonna pay off

[RC_Drunkford]

with Stanley Johnson and Boogie Cousins available for the minimum as well as Robert Covington on the trading block, PATFO would be retarded to keep Metu instead

[FutureMan]

Murray/White/Mills
DeRozan/Forbes/Walker
Covington/Gay/Johnson
Aldridge/Carroll/Metu
Cousins/Poeltl/Luka

[RC_Drunkford]

Murray/White/Mills
DeRozan/Forbes/Walker
Covington/Gay/Johnson
Aldridge/Carroll/Metu
Cousins/Poeltl/Luka

that roster would steamroll through the western conference, but Pop would rather keep Belinelli

[playbonner15]

Murray/White/Mills
DeRozan/Forbes/Walker
Covington/Gay/Johnson
Aldridge/Carroll/Metu
Cousins/Poeltl/Luka

Yall know it's not gonna happen :lol

[SpurSpike]

Been seeing a lot of articles about trading White lately. I would be so pissed if Spurs traded White... He is our most polished young player.

[Ice009]

Been seeing a lot of articles about trading White lately. I would be so pissed if Spurs traded White... He is our most polished young player.

Where are you seeing those articles?

[SpurSpike]

Where are you seeing those articles?

They are all theoretical so no real smoke, mostly on Air Alamo. They seem to be sold on the idea of trading him for Sabonis...

[John B]

Of course rockets are in :cry
As long as it’s not a freebie to Lakers :lol:lol. Another good player not going there :lol:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

They are all theoretical so no real smoke, mostly on Air Alamo. They seem to be sold on the idea of trading him for Sabonis...
Pacers already signed his basketball twin (brogdon) why would they do that? Not saying that I would trade white, but just trying to think this realistically.

[XDT76]

They are all theoretical so no real smoke, mostly on Air Alamo. They seem to be sold on the idea of trading him for Sabonis...

I think that is really a dumb trade, Mills, Belli and Forbes are not as effective as white. I am even okay with the Spurs letting DDR walk 2 yrs later and give white another contract.

[Realdeal1]

If the spurs can find a way to trade for convington and sign cousins without trading away any big pieces or young prospects I’d be excited

[look_at_g_shred]

What we all need to realize here is that what we think is the “right and logical” moves for this team, PATFO thinks the opposite. I mean just look at the roster and how it’s currently constructed. Do you think they actually believe trading away deadweight like patty/Marco would make us better? They’re blood runs cold at the thought of such a scenario.

[Realdeal1]

What we all need to realize here is that what we think is the “right and logical” moves for this team, PATFO thinks the opposite. I mean just look at the roster and how it’s currently constructed. Do you think they actually believe trading away deadweight like patty/Marco would make us better? They’re blood runs cold at the thought of such a scenario.

yup...what seems logical from a fans point of view is the complete opposite of what PATFO thinks and will do ..

[Dex]

What we all need to realize here is that what we think is the “right and logical” moves for this team, PATFO thinks the opposite. I mean just look at the roster and how it’s currently constructed. Do you think they actually believe trading away deadweight like patty/Marco would make us better? They’re blood runs cold at the thought of such a scenario.

Particularly Patty.

PATFO is not trading away their "team leader", no matter how overpaid he may be. And they certainly aren't going to give up assets to do so (which is pretty much what it would take at this point).

[Dejounte]

Particularly Patty.

PATFO is not trading away their "team leader", no matter how overpaid he may be. And they certainly aren't going to give up assets to do so (which is pretty much what it would take at this point).

Here's a hot take: i think they drafted Q to be the new team leader.

[Dverde]

Particularly Patty.

PATFO is not trading away their "team leader", no matter how overpaid he may be. And they certainly aren't going to give up assets to do so (which is pretty much what it would take at this point).

Patty gotta stay healthy. If he misses time like Pau Gasol last year, Pop will finally notice how worthless and redundant he is as a player on this roster.

[K...]

Murray might supplant Patty if he starts healthy. Forbes already took Mills skill base.

[BackHome]

Every year we talk about trades and nothing ever happens..lol

[HankChinaski]

Every year we talk about trades and nothing ever happens..lol

It is this every summer and trade deadline followed by table flipping cursory posters spam hating the organization.

They have made all the moves they are going to make this summer. Only thing that may happen is someone being released (Metu) to make room for someone else at the end
of preseason training camp.

If there are any realistic moves happening it won't be till after Christmas when we approach trade deadline and buyouts. They may shore up a position or pickup a player that fits into there plans in the season following.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Howard dealt to Memphis

[Joseph Kony]

Howard dealt to Memphis

for CJ miles only :lol how embarrassingly irrelevant he has become

[gambit1990]

memphis to waive or trade howard according to woj.

[Leetonidas]

Lol waiting for kobyz to come in here talking about how spurs need to get Howard or this offseason is a failure

[NASpurs]

Maybe Dwert can go back to the Lakers and reform another "super" team.

[NASpurs]

This but all confirms Cousins going to a shitty basketball team like the Wizards right? There were sightings of him talking to the Wizards VP or something in Vegas the other day.

[YoungbuckMurray]

This but all confirms Cousins going to a shitty basketball team like the Wizards right?

Probably. Very dumb for his career imo

[NASpurs]

Probably. Very dumb for his career imo

Why? He'll put up empty, inflated stats on a loser of a team.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Why? He'll put up empty, inflated stats on a loser of a team.

Exactly and nobody will care. If he actually cares about winning and getting better at basketball spurs are his best chance. Plus spurs are loyal. If he’s a good fit they will give him a solid contract to keep him here and allow him to have a long career

[Joseph Kony]

Maybe Dwert can go back to the Lakers and reform another "super" team.

:lmao :lmao that would actually be hilarious. you know this faggot would love to be in Space Jam 2

[Harry Callahan]

Dwight Howard is now a bad joke. Would the Lakers be a "Super Duper" team if he hopped on board the tampering/collusion/rigging train?

[Ron Swanson]

I’d rather roll with 14 than sign Dwert.

[timtonymanu]

Why? He'll put up empty, inflated stats on a loser of a team.

Best situation for him. Lol @ Spurs fans thinking he would ever play for the Spurs.

[tbdog]

Dwight is done in the nba. Perhaps some sucker will give him a contract but it will be the last one. Can't defend the paint like he use to. Can't defend outside the paint. Can't score anymore.

[Joseph Kony]

now that Nephew has finally made his choice we should start see more dominoes falling soon

[NASpurs]

1147389514366824448

[Big Empty]

Welp, Raptors want DD back for Powell, Ibaka & a first round pick?

[childishbambi]

Paul George never even gave the Spurs a meeting right?:madrun

[Joseph Kony]

Green to LAL, KCP re-signs, McGee re-signs...starting to look more likely that Cousins isn't going to the Lakers

[CGD]

Now that the dust is settling, time to test the market for DDR. He’s just going to be perceived as a rental if he’s not moved by the start of the season.

[mo7888]

Now that we see all the parity in the league you'd think we'd finally make a couple moves to be aggressive in this two year window we seem to he in. Maybe its Robert Covington, maybe it's also bringing in boogie, or maybe it's someone we don't even know that's on the market or about to he on the market. C'mon RC....

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/1147547362509770752

[SpursDynasty85]

https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/1147547362509770752

Another worthy look for the Spurs but I dont see them trading anyone unless they absolutely are certain of the fit. Anderson would be great next to Aldridge and DeRozan at the 4. More range than Rudy.

[Leetonidas]

Another worthy look for the Spurs but I dont see them trading anyone unless they absolutely are certain of the fit. Anderson would be great next to Aldridge and DeRozan at the 4. More range than Rudy.

Anderson sucks. There's a reason this dude couldnt get on the court for Phoenix or Miami who are trash teams. And theres a reason rockets shipped his ass out when he is the kind of 3pt chucker they like. He is maybe the worst defensive player in the entire league

[Dex]

Another worthy look for the Spurs but I dont see them trading anyone unless they absolutely are certain of the fit. Anderson would be great next to Aldridge and DeRozan at the 4. More range than Rudy.

Hard pass. Anderson is a net negative, despite being able to shoot the 3.

[NASpurs]

Anderson sucks. There's a reason this dude couldnt get on the court for Phoenix or Miami who are trash teams. And theres a reason rockets shipped his ass out when he is the kind of 3pt chucker they like. He is maybe the worst defensive player in the entire league

That guy has the worst takes. He's always like 5 years too late on the players he likes. :lol

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1147559914228912130

[Duncan87]

O well no room for Stan

[SpursDynasty85]

That guy has the worst takes. He's always like 5 years too late on the players he likes. :lol

Lol. Looking at Anderson for the minimum is a terrible take? We have guys that dont fit in Mills, Belli, Bertans. And Gay is injury prone. Funny, since 5 years too late are prettyvmuch the only guys Spurs get. People thinking we are going to trade for big free agents and move up in the lottery are terrible takes because Spur's assets are usually worth more to them than others.

[Prime BEEF]

Would anyone want a package of Marco/Bertans/Mills? Surely somebody would. Washington Generals?

[NASpurs]

Lol. Looking at Anderson for the minimum is a terrible take? We have guys that dont fit in Mills, Belli, Bertans. And Gay is injury prone. Funny, since 5 years too late are prettyvmuch the only guys Spurs get. People thinking we are going to trade for big free agents and move up in the lottery are terrible takes because Spur's assets are usually worth more to them than others.

You've just described a treadmill team.

In theory a player like Ryan Anderson fits but he fucking sucks ass man. He's about to be phased out of the league. Ryan Anderson is the ultimate bottom of the barrel type player.

*edit*

Not only is he going to be phased out, he's going to be phased out during the 3 point era... the one thing he's supposedly good at.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1147573711710695424

[Dejounte]

Cousins to the Lakers

[YoungbuckMurray]

Cousins to lakers so much for him coming to spurs. Going to a circus act

[ace3g]

Glad he is off the market, phew !!!

[NASpurs]

Thanks praying dog!

[tonight...you]

Thanks praying dog!
Lol!

[Genovaswitness]

boogie to the lakers...getting him would've definitely been a LOB move. ST scared of black people per par

[raybies]

boogie to the lakers...getting him would've definitely been a LOB move. ST scared of black people per par
Let’s remember this when Lakers are a first round ouster and boogie is a free agent again that nobody wants

[HarlemHeat37]

If they're starting him, that's a disaster:lol

Off the bench, it's a decent move..

[ace3g]

Rondo to the Lakers, apparently they are assembling a Pelican/Laker hybrid.

[raybies]

So Lakers looking like

Rondo/
Green/
James/
Kuzma/Dudley
Davis/Cousins

am I missing anybody?

[NASpurs]

So Lakers looking like

Rondo/
Green/
James/
Kuzma/Dudley
Davis/Cousins

am I missing anybody?

Kawhi? Oh right, nvm.

[mo7888]

So Lakers looking like

Rondo/
Green/
James/
Kuzma/Dudley
Davis/Cousins

am I missing anybody?

Quinn

[NASpurs]

Didn't Troy Daniels sign with the Lakers?

[ironman2886]

Lakers also signed Javele McGee.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MookMorris2/status/1147580441244794880

[raybies]

Rondo/Cook
Green/Daniels/Horton-Tucker
James/Morris/Dudley
Davis/Kuzma
Cousins/Mcgee

Feels bad .

[Dejounte]

Lmao lakers didnt learn from last year when they signed all these low iq headcases. Theyre doing the same thing this year. This team is going to crash hard

[C-Dub]

I say the Lakers starting lineup will look something like this:

Rondo, Green, Kuzma. LBJ, AD
with Cousins being the 6th man.

[timtonymanu]

boogie to the lakers...getting him would've definitely been a LOB move. ST scared of black people per par

Yeah cause Cousins oozes everything about a winner. Stfu faggot

[Leetonidas]

I say the Lakers starting lineup will look something like this:

Rondo, Green, Kuzma. LBJ, AD
with Cousins being the 6th man.

I think they'll probably put DG at the 3 and start KCP with Kuzma/Cousins off the bench. I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley/Korver/Smith all end up there on minimum deals

[Dverde]

https://twitter.com/MookMorris2/status/1147580441244794880

Gotta be Dallas or Toronto.

[tonight...you]

I say the Lakers starting lineup will look something like this:

Rondo, Green, Kuzma. LBJ, AD
with Cousins being the 6th man.
Javale gots something to say about that...

[Genovaswitness]

Yeah cause Cousins oozes everything about a winner. Stfu faggot

vanilla fan afraid of vocal black player.

[tonight...you]

vanilla fan afraid of vocal black player.
I like your vocal black player avi...

[timtonymanu]

vanilla fan afraid of vocal black player.

Yeah go with that schtick. It’s totally accurate to my point

[KDKSpurs24]

I say the Lakers starting lineup will look something like this:

Rondo, Green, Kuzma. LBJ, AD
with Cousins being the 6th man.
I would start Cook for the shooting

[SpursDynasty85]

I would start Cook for the shooting

Rondo still got D tho. The other 4 are actually pretty good shooters.

[KDKSpurs24]

Rondo still got D tho. The other 4 are actually pretty good shooters.
I guess it works either way

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers are so bad:lol

Danny Green and Davis are the only defenders on their entire roster..Green is 32, his body is going to break by April again since they're going to ask him to defend the #1 every game.

[Dejounte]

Who still has cap space to sign Marcus Morris or Jamychal Green?

[ace3g]

Shooting guards

Player
Team
Age
FA Type
Starting salary
















Justin Holiday
MEM
30
Key reserve
$4-6 million


Iman Shumpert
HOU
29
Rotation A
$4-6 million


Lance Stephenson
LAL
28
Rotation A
Minimum


Jamal Crawford
PHX
39
Rotation A
Minimum


Vince Carter
ATL
42
Rotation B
Minimum


Nik Stauskas
CLE
25
Rotation B
Minimum


Ian Clark
NOP
28
Rotation B
Minimum


Jerian Grant
ORL
26
Rotation B
Minimum


Tyler Dorsey
MEM
23
Rotation B
Minimum


Jodie Meeks
TOR
31
Rotation B
Minimum


Patrick McCaw
TOR
23
Rotation B
Minimum


Jimmer Fredette
PHX
30
Rotation B



Small forwards

Player
Team
Age
FA Type
Starting salary









Kelly Oubre Jr. (restricted)

PHX
23
Starter
$12-14 million










Furkan Korkmaz
PHI
21
Rotation B
$4-6 million


Justin Anderson
ATL
25
Rotation B
Minimum


Corey Brewer
SAC
33
Rotation B
Minimum


Quincy Pondexter
SAS
31
Rotation B
Minimum


Thabo Sefolosha
UTA
35
Rotation B
Minimum


Sam Dekker
WAS
25
Rotation B
Minimum


Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
CHI
24
Development



Jaron Blossomgame
CLE
25
Development



Deng Adel
CLE
22
Development



Vince Edwards
HOU
23
Development



Davon Reed
IND
24
Development



George King
PHX
25
Development



Troy Williams
SAC
24
Development



Power forwards

Player
Team
Age
FA Type
Starting salary


Marcus Morris
BOS
29
Starter
$8-10 million


JaMychal Green
LAC
29
Starter
$8-10 million


Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
BKN
24
Key reserve
$6-8 million


Trey Lyles
DEN
23
Key reserve
$6-8 million


Kenneth Faried
HOU
29
Rotation A
$4-6 million


Jarell Martin
ORL
25
Rotation A
Minimum


Carmelo Anthony
N/A
35
Rotation A
Minimum


Luol Deng
MIN
34
Rotation B
Minimum


Lance Thomas
NYK
31
Rotation B
Minimum


Marquese Chriss
CLE
21
Rotation B
Minimum


Jonas Jerebko
GSW
32
Rotation B
Minimum


Udonis Haslem
MIA
39
Rotation B
Minimum


Cheick Diallo
NOP
22
Rotation B
Minimum


Ekpe Udoh
UTA
32
Rotation B
Minimum


Dragan Bender
PHX
21
Rotation B
Minimum


Dante Cunningham
SAS
32
Rotation B
Minimum


Donatas Motiejunas
SAS
28
Rotation B
Minimum


Alex Poythress
ATL
25
Development



Tyler Lydon
DEN
23
Development



Ray Spalding
PHX
22
Development



Marcus Derrickson
GSW
23
Development



Cameron Reynolds
MIN
24
Development



Johnathan Motley
LAC
24
Development



Johnathan Williams
LAC
24
Development



Isaiah Hicks
NYK
24
Development



Amile Jefferson
ORL
26
Development



Ben Moore
SAS
24
Development



Tyler Cavanaugh
UTA
25
Development



Devin Robinson
WAS
24
Development

[SpursDynasty85]

Furkan, Jaymachal, and Patrick McCaw would be good fillers over Mills and Belinelli.

[Joseph Kony]

if spurs are indeed doing a S&T with BRK for carroll and send out one of Beli/Bertans to get it done, i hope they use the MLE on Morris or Green

[k830713]

Jabari Parker ??

[r0drig0lac]

if spurs are indeed doing a S&T with BRK for carroll and send out one of Beli/Bertans to get it done, i hope they use the MLE on Morris or Green

not bad

[james evans]

Since OKC are cleaning house, why not Poetl, Mills, Bellineli, and Cash for Steven Adams?

[cool cat]

Since OKC are cleaning house, why not Poetl, Mills, Bellineli, and Cash for Steven Adams?

Because his contract is more poison then mills.

[ace3g]

All I know is Pop has no excuses for playing Patty/Forbes together next season.

[Mr. Body]

How is Corey Brewer only 33? Feels like that dude's been playing for twenty years. :lol

[ace3g]

He was originally going to be on their SL roster.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1147905246812753920

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1147907478295863297

[Gino20]

Are the Spurs potentially making other moves? This guy allegedly has sources and has heard some “rumbles”. More on his Twitter. Is he legit? Anyone know?

1147980545055449088

[Pavlov]

Are the Spurs potentially making other moves? This guy allegedly has sources and has heard some “rumbles”. More on his Tweeter. Is he legit? Anyone know?

1147980545055449088Did he know anything about what has happened so far this summer? There's an easy way to find out.

[Dennis the Menace]

Are the Spurs potentially making other moves? This guy allegedly has sources and has heard some “rumbles”. More on his Tweeter. Is he legit? Anyone know?

1147980545055449088

I hope to God not. Lonnie White Murray are untouchable with the fanbase

[Pavlov]

Only "rumbles" that would really make sense are ones concerning Belli, Mills and an outside chance at trading DDR.

I don't think I'd want to tack on any young players to a deal involving those three for some of the crap that's rumored to be available.

[SpursDynasty85]

Only "rumbles" that would really make sense are ones concerning Belli, Mills and an outside chance at trading DDR.

I don't think I'd want to tack on any young players to a deal involving those three for some of the crap that's rumored to be available.

I think Belli plus a young asset could bring back a nice piece. I.e. Belli plus Walker/Forbes. A lot of players and announcers are also really high on Walker. Moreso than Murray and White but dude is not ready. Tacking anything on to Mills though would probably net nothing back but getting rid of Mills.

[SpurPadre]

Just another tspence. Nothing to see here, tbh.

[Gino20]

Just another tspence. Nothing to see here, tbh.

Probably.

[tonight...you]

Keep my dude Murray no matter what.
Don't mess with my emotions Smokey!

[Prime BEEF]

I hope to God not. Lonnie White Murray are untouchable with the fanbase

If we do get Westbrook it will happen without giving up any of those 3. They already have SGA and Dennis S. at PG. Why would they want more? And those 3 don’t bring contract coming off the books value. What they really want is to free up money by off loading Westbrook’s contract. DeRozan/Mills/picks would open up $40M for them after next season. Yes Mills is a combo guard but ironically his value in this trade is his bad contract. You add in Gallo’s $22M and OKC will have $62M free after next season....even with Adams bad contract. Plus a ridiculous amount of picks. They’ll be in a great place to start over.

DeRozan/Mills/Picks makes the most sense from OKC’s perspective. The question is would pop rather have DeRozan/Mills or Westbrook?

[GreekSpursfan]

Westbrook's game will not age well, very very very hard pass. Stay the course and develop players.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1147980570179166209

[spurraider21]

Rondo still got D tho. The other 4 are actually pretty good shooters.
lakers were better defensively with rondo off the court. he's living on reputation because people like you still think he's a good player

[Duncan87]

What are the rumbles? Dk has a lot of followers maybe legit who knows these days

[DPG21920]

What are the rumbles? Dk has a lot of followers maybe legit who knows these days

The rumbles about SA kicking the tires on making a trade for Westbrook.

[spurraider21]

Are the Spurs potentially making other moves? This guy allegedly has sources and has heard some “rumbles”. More on his Twitter. Is he legit? Anyone know?

1147980545055449088
no clue if he's legit, but this was his earlier tweet in that thread

1147974704780763136

[Mr. Body]

Easily White.

[Payote75]

I'm for the trade but none of the 3 ...the trade is fair as it is and mill derozan is almost exactly even in salary but I would ad a metu or even a mulitinov(spelling) but wiping 100 million from there books and they getting a player who is on star level a veteran to help bring along youth and in two years tons of cap space they would never have. It's win win they remain competitive save freakin 100 million and open up a lot of cap space in two years when youth hopefully serves them. If Westbrook was two years younger then yes but he isn't he actually about 9months older than DD.

[NASpurs]

The rumbles about SA kicking the tires on making a trade for Westbrook.

End me if that happens. I’ll drink Draino with TPark.

[slick'81]

Presti will want players and multiple picks not sure if sa would bite

[Realdeal1]

If it’s just mills, Derozan and a pick or two for Westbrook I’d say that would be worth the risk... if it involves any of young big 3 ( Murray , white ,Walker) I’d pass

[Payote75]

If it’s just mills, Derozan and a pick or two for Westbrook I’d say that would be worth the risk... if it involves any of young big 3 ( Murray , white ,Walker) I’d pass

Totally with you I'd add metu or Mulitinov (spelling) and tops two second rounders prefer one but would give two if it was a deal breaker.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If it’s just mills, Derozan and a pick or two for Westbrook I’d say that would be worth the risk... if it involves any of young big 3 ( Murray , white ,Walker) I’d pass

Why would you want to keep Murray in a trade for Westbrook. He’d be completely redundant and is also on his way to being paid $20 mil per. If the Spurs make the trade they’re not keeping him regardless. Walked is also a bad fit, only White makes sense to be kept, especially since his extension is a couple of years away.

If anyone wants Westbrook they’ll have to be quite OK with losing two of the young dudes and picks, otherwise it’s a pipe dream.

[spurraider21]

we wouldn't be able to make adequate use of westbrook + murray + white + walker. if you're willing to take on westbrook, you should be willing to part with 1 of those (i wouldnt deal white)

[szkorhetz]

Why would you want to keep Murray in a trade for Westbrook. He’d be completely redundant and is also on his way to being paid $20 mil per. If the Spurs make the trade they’re not keeping him regardless. Walked is also a bad fit, only White makes sense to be kept, especially since his extension is a couple of years away.

If anyone wants Westbrook they’ll have to be quite OK with losing two of the young dudes and picks, otherwise it’s a pipe dream.
Agreed.

What would be our depth chart if it's Mills and DDR for Westy?

Westbrook/White/Murray
Walker/Belli

Makes no sense.

Either White or Murray must be traded for a SG if the Westbrook trade really happens.

[spurraider21]

Agreed.

What would be our depth chart if it's Mills and DDR for Westy?

Westbrook/White/Murray
Walker/Belli

Makes no sense.

Either White or Murray must be traded for a SG if the Westbrook trade really happens.
or you just include one of them in the WB trade, as OKC would likely demand

[Dhbsr555]

I’d do derozen Mills belli and some picks for Westbrook .. unfortunately with brook contract Idk if that’s possible and even if it was okc wouldn’t do it on the fact Westbrook is locked up 4 years derozen is a free agent next year although at the same time they would be clearing up cap so idk. But I will be pissed if they trade any of the young core.

[Dhbsr555]

On the other hand it could be a brilliant move as we only might be able to lock up one of Murray or white

[jermaine]

Why the fuck would we want Westbrook? No no no no!!! I wouldn't trade Marco, an Mills for him. Westbrook is one of the most dumbest an most selfish players in the league. You can always count on him to take the dumbest shot possible when the game is on the line. I wouldn't trade for him for shit. Our young core is better than most young cores an will take us further into the future.

[jermaine]

On the other hand it could be a brilliant move as we only might be able to lock up one of Murray or white

I'd rather give up Lonnie Walker than either one of those 2. Lonnie is a better player but I just love those 2 an what they bring. Lonnie's ceiling to me is Carmelo Anthony at best. Not skill set, but his get bucks an not really set his teammates up.

[r0drig0lac]

If it’s just mills, Derozan and a pick or two for Westbrook I’d say that would be worth the risk... if it involves any of young big 3 ( Murray , white ,Walker) I’d pass
this

combo guard core with
Westbrook/Murray
White/Walker

would be the best in the league

[Dhbsr555]

this

combo guard core with
Westbrook/Murray
White/Walker

would be the best in the league
got to understand tho if we do that we won’t be able to resign Murray or white . We would be paying Aldridge 20 plus million Westbrook 40 million ... there’s no way we’d be able to resign our young core of walker Murray or white

[8FOR!3]

I don't mind us trading one of Murray/White/Walker at some point but I certainly wouldn't do it today. We still don't really know what we have with Walker on an NBA court yet (although we're starting to get a good idea) and I'd like a bit better look at Murray's development but why not keep these guys while they're cheap and see what sticks. As long as they live up to the hype these guys won't be any less valuable in their mid-20's on a higher paid deal.

[SpursDynasty85]

lakers were better defensively with rondo off the court. he's living on reputation because people like you still think he's a good player

Well. I sure wouldnt want him gaurding me in the half court. Lakers were a mess last year. Plus I mever said he was a good player. I assumed he would start over Quin Cook and Lebron would want Robdo over him in that starting lineup. Why everyone has to be an asshole on this forum to try and make a point?

[RC_Drunkford]

Why the fuck would we want Westbrook? No no no no!!! I wouldn't trade Marco, an Mills for him. Westbrook is one of the most dumbest an most selfish players in the league. You can always count on him to take the dumbest shot possible when the game is on the line. I wouldn't trade for him for shit. Our young core is better than most young cores an will take us further into the future.

this. I think Murray can be more effective than Westbrook as soon as this upcoming season, especially when you factor in defense

[Duncan87]

Damn good deal for Denver Jerami Grant for 2nd round pick. Damn OKC really are firehouse selling

[GusT15]

Damn good deal for Denver Jerami Grant for 2nd round pick. Damn OKC really are firehouse selling

First round pick.
But ye,OKC are on a firesale.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148238946976976896

[Duncan87]

Yeah you right Grant a good tough player bad news for Spurs

[Duncan87]

Probably means their losing Trey lyles who is RFA

[SpursDynasty85]

First round pick.
But ye,OKC are on a firesale.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148238946976976896

Dang. Dont want to hear Denver getting better. He is going to fit well with those gaurds and Jokic.

[r0drig0lac]

Gallo expiring for Mills/Belli + 2nd rd pick do it mitch

[r0drig0lac]

Free agent forward JaMychal Green is finalizing a two-year, $10M deal to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, with a second-year player option, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA.

stacked

[Seventyniner]

Damn good deal for Denver Jerami Grant for 2nd round pick. Damn OKC really are firehouse selling

No sense paying the luxury tax when they traded PG.

[Dex]

Free agent forward JaMychal Green is finalizing a two-year, $10M deal to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, with a second-year player option, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA.

stacked


Not surprising. Damn, that's gonna be a tough team.

[Dex]

1148257880375611392

[Mugen]

Nuggs and Jazz going to be pretty damn deep. They'll be tough in the regular season.....

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1148260503849824256

[TimmyBuckets]

Carrol and Morris are great pick ups. Addressed the defense issue, but would like more depth at the 3 with a faster 6'6-6'8 guy. Carrol and Morris, though, are still very switchable which is good. PATFO making moves with what they got. Excited for the new season. I'm thinking 6-7 seed and able to get out of the first round is a distinct possibility for this team.

[Dverde]

Nuggs and Jazz going to be pretty damn deep. They'll be tough in the regular season.....

Nuggets don’t scare me at all. Maybe next year when Millsap’s huge salary comes off the books.

[Drom John]

Frank Mason just got waived. Lmao which "spur fan" was it that said we missed out on him?

me

[spurraider21]

Well. I sure wouldnt want him gaurding me in the half court.
:lol that’s quite the standard. Which nba players do you think you can score on?

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148274909455380483

[Dex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1148274909455380483

Lakers really piling up those washed up guards.

[BillMc]

Lakers really piling up those washed up guards.

Lakers are going to have at most a 2 year window before it all comes crashing down and they have Anthony Davis, maybe Kuzma, and no one else functional.

[Seventyniner]

:lol that’s quite the standard. Which nba players do you think you can score on?

Kevin Durant. Right now.

[SpursDynasty85]

:lol that’s quite the standard. Which nba players do you think you can score on?

Hypothetically speaking,if I was Murray or White, I would definitely want Quin Cook gaurding me over Rondo.

[Dverde]

Lakers really piling up those washed up guards.
They need a washed up center with name recognition. Tyson Chandler, Gortat, Bogat?

[Dex]

They need a washed up center with name recognition. Tyson Chandler, Gortat, Bogat?

You jest, but I feel like Chandler is pretty much a given.

Then they just need to ink Melo and meme-team 2.0 will be complete.

[cjw]

this. I think Murray can be more effective than Westbrook as soon as this upcoming season, especially when you factor in defense

Totally agree. I’d take Murray over Russ from this point forward totally ignoring the contracts . Contracts only make it more of a one sided argument.


Shooting from different distances (career for Murray as he was hurt and gives bigger sample size, most recent season for Russ):
Murray Westbrook
0-3 ft 58.2% 65.0%
3-10 ft 38.2% 20.8%
10-16 ft 33.1% 33.3%
16+ 2pt 34.8% 35.8%
3pt 31.6% 30.8%

So while Murray is less effective at the rim, he’s about the same from every other range and not a trainwreck on short twos like Russ is. Murray’s numbers will only trend up as he keeps getting coached, and once Westbrook’s athleticism is sapped you end up with Murray’s shooting from the past few years if not worse.

Usage and attention sucked in from defense should be adjusted for too. But Russ has PG13 on the floor whereas Dejounte has like eight games of Kawhi.


Murray’s turnover rate is really high, but that’s not uncommon for a young PG. Westbrook’s assist rate is high but still turns over ball a ton.


Rebound rates are very similar, though Westbrook’s teammates box out for him to statpad.


And we haven’t even talked about defense yet. Night and day.

[cjw]

Nuggets don’t scare me at all. Maybe next year when Millsap’s huge salary comes off the books.

Their front court depth is scary. Think about how they pounded the Spurs this past year but add another competent defender in Grant to the mix. Plus whatever they get from Porter Jr.

They won’t really have real cap room next summer as Murray already signed his extension (didn’t pull the Kawhi/Spurs 2014 wink and agree), and Grant probably opts out ... they will try resigning him but at a higher cap hold than his $9mm player option.

[Dverde]

Their front court depth is scary. Think about how they pounded the Spurs this past year but add another competent defender in Grant to the mix. Plus whatever they get from Porter Jr.

They won’t really have real cap room next summer as Murray already signed his extension (didn’t pull the Kawhi/Spurs 2014 wink and agree), and Grant probably opts out ... they will try resigning him but at a higher cap hold than his $9mm player option.

Nuggets should be afraid of us. That overrated team barely beat our mediocre team and lost to an injury depleted Portland team. Their Ogre had Enes Kanter with a bum shoulder guarding him :lol. They look good on paper, but it’s just one great player and a bunch of Splash Brother wannabes.

[Degoat]

Their front court depth is scary. Think about how they pounded the Spurs this past year but add another competent defender in Grant to the mix. Plus whatever they get from Porter Jr.

They won’t really have real cap room next summer as Murray already signed his extension (didn’t pull the Kawhi/Spurs 2014 wink and agree), and Grant probably opts out ... they will try resigning him but at a higher cap hold than his $9mm player option.

denver is a solid team no doubt but grant is a bit of a liability on offense, he probably will steal minutes from guys like Beasley and Torrey Craig

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1148300687647731712

[kobyz]

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lol giving up Donovan Mitchell for that!

[Degoat]

I feel like the warriors have made some sneaky good moves :pctossbut will see they’ve been pretty bad at evaluating good young players