Spurs 2019 offseason thread

[Realdeal1]

One less potential laker lol

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1145731003174051840

another fener player in the nba

[MoSpur02]

Hassan Whiteside to the Trailblazers for Leonard and Harkless per Woj

[callo1]

Hassan Whiteside to the Trailblazers for Leonard and Harkless per Woj

Why would Portland take on that contract?

Wow, bad trade for Portland.

[Texas_Ranger]

Portland gets a starting caliber center on an expiring deal as it awaits Jusuf Nurkic's return from a serious leg injury. Blazers offseason: Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, retain Rodney Hood and draft Nassir Little. Another Western contender loading up. - woj

sorry woj, but those players are no contenders.

[Leetonidas]

Lol. Whiteside sucks and has a cancerous attitude. His game is beyond archaic

[MoSpur02]

Portland is going to be better Whiteside is a free agent next off-season so he comes off their books. I think Whiteside is fine and will do better in Portland. They still have their core pieces although they don't have Aminu anymore.

[Big P]

Why would Portland take on that contract?

Wow, bad trade for Portland.

Whiteside, while expensive, is expiring and they need a starting center with Nurkic out.

[Dverde]

Portland gets a starting caliber center on an expiring deal as it awaits Jusuf Nurkic's return from a serious leg injury. Blazers offseason: Whiteside, Kent Bazemore, retain Rodney Hood and draft Nassir Little. Another Western contender loading up. - woj

sorry woj, but those players are no contenders.

LMA better cancel those return plans unless he wants the vet min.

[DPG21920]

Why would Portland take on that contract?

Wow, bad trade for Portland.

Huh? It’s just a one year deal. If Whiteside sucks he’s off their books after this season.

[Dverde]

Derrick Whites son Jamal Murray getting 5 yrs, $170 million :lmao

He's the definition of a fake star, tbh.

His kids keep prospering under him.

https://i.imgur.com/l9ewK1y_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Ice009]

I’d say keep the remaining MLE for now and use it for buyout market, when every other team will have only a min to operate we will be able to mke a better offer and players at the buyout tend to be better, when tanking teams release veterans seeking playoff games.

Obly problem is lack of knowledge of the system, but talent wins every time for me

Lots of teams have outbid the Spurs in the buyout market before. Holding onto it is a guarantee of nothing. Not every team has the minimum only to offer in the buyout market, some might end up having more cash left to offer than the Spurs even if the Spurs did keep the remainder of the MLE.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent guard Austin Rivers has agreed to a two-year deal to return to the Houston Rockets, league source tells ESPN.

Rivers deal includes a player option on the second year, source tells ESPN.

[John B]

Free agent guard Austin Rivers has agreed to a two-year deal to return to the Houston Rockets, league source tells ESPN.

Rivers deal includes a player option on the second year, source tells ESPN.
There goes another player not going to be a Laker :lol:lol

Teams really should push the one’s left fast before Lakers get to them :lol:lol

[callo1]

Look, I understand that the deal is for one year, but man, Whiteside is an absolute bum when it comes to work ethic, and being a team player...maybe he gets motivated for another contract, but Portland seems to be making poor choices. First a supermax for Lillard, and now they bring in a cancer like Whiteside.

You would think that they would make a greater push to improve their team being that the West is wide open but I guess not. I would have tried to get a Javale Mcgee on the cheap before taking on Whiteside's contract, even if it is only for one year.

Portland is going the OKC route with that Lillard contract. Westbrook esque indeed.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Troy Daniels has agreed to a one-year, $2.1M, agent Mark Bartelstein of Priority Sports tells @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Daniels gives the Lakers an elite shooter to pair with LeBron James and Anthony Davis and does not affect the team’s cap space.

[Texas_Ranger]

The Utah Jazz are planning to waive guard Raul Neto in order to create space to complete the Mike Conley Jr. trade, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Neto will become a strong option as a reserve point guard on the market.

[MoSpur02]

Supposedly the Wizards are discussing a possible trade involving Miami that would send Beal to the Heat

[cool cat]

So what is the list of PG that Lakers can even get at this point?

Can Rockets even salary dump CP3 to them?

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent guard Elfrid Payton has agreed to a two-year, $16M deal with the New York Knicks, agents Ty Sullivan and Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports tell

just what they need. Another PG. :rollin

[pad300]

So what is the list of PG that Lakers can even get at this point?

Can Rockets even salary dump CP3 to them?

If Kwitter doesn't sign with them, looks pretty ugly to me...

[loveforthegame]

Even if Leonard goes to the Lakers who the heck is left for them to sign. :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

So what is the list of PG that Lakers can even get at this point?

Can Rockets even salary dump CP3 to them?

they wil probably try and get Dragic if he won't be on his way to the Wizards for Beal.

[Blackhaus]

Paying Dame Lillard 50 mil a year is just crazy, wow

[gambit1990]

Supposedly the Wizards are discussing a possible trade involving Miami that would send Beal to the Heat
this was trending on twitter last night but nothing concrete.

[DPG21920]

Knowing that NY has team options on all signings in year 2 except Julius makes them way less dumb.

[Texas_Ranger]

Maxi Kleber and the Mavericks have agreed on a four-year, $35 million deal, league sources say

[Texas_Ranger]

Sources: Free agent center Enes Kanter has agreed to a deal with the Boston Celtics.

Enes Kanter is signing a two-year, $10M deal with the Celtics, with a second-year player option, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[Kurgan]

Knowing that NY has team options on all signings in year 2 except Julius makes them way less dumb.

I know a lot of people are laughing at them but I understand the logic. Their priority was Durant. When he suffered the achilles injury, they got cold feet and backed off. Better to tank for the lotto and save the capspace for a real superstar instead of overpaying second/third tier guys like Tobias Harris/Middleton and become a treadmill team.

[Dverde]

I think the Spurs are done. I’m hoping Thomas Robinson gets a roster spot.

[barakz21]

I know a lot of people are laughing at them but I understand the logic. Their priority was Durant. When he suffered the achilles injury, they got cold feet and backed off. Better to tank for the lotto and save the capspace for a real superstar instead of overpaying second/third tier guys like Tobias Harris/Middleton and become a treadmill team.

But why sign 3 pfs though? They’re good players imo, but the signings just don’t make sense.

[pad300]

Maxi Kleber and the Mavericks have agreed on a four-year, $35 million deal, league sources say

4 years for $35M; good deal for Dallas.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent guard JJ Barea has agreed to a one-year, veteran’s minimum deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[r0drig0lac]

John Wall ($38.2M), Bradley Beal ($27.1M) and Jimmy Butler (up to $32.7M) make $98M combined. And Heat is already $3M over hard cap to start. To acquire all in massive trade, Heat needs to send out something like $105M+ combined. Everyone is possible to get there (excl mins). Go!

[John B]

Enes Kanter going to Celtics for 10mil/2 yrs. Doesn’t Spurs have that much. Dang that’s my backup big right there.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent center/forward Richaun Holmes has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal with the Sacramento Kings, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

[DPG21920]

I know a lot of people are laughing at them but I understand the logic. Their priority was Durant. When he suffered the achilles injury, they got cold feet and backed off. Better to tank for the lotto and save the capspace for a real superstar instead of overpaying second/third tier guys like Tobias Harris/Middleton and become a treadmill team.

Sure - but when they signed all these mediocre guys to two year+ deals it was throwing away that space. Now? We know the contract details and it makes more sense. Still, not optimal. They should have done what ATL did and take on “bad” deals for draft assets.

[Texas_Ranger]

Golden State All-Star Klay Thompson's new five-year, $190M contract includes a 15 percent trade kicker, agent Greg Lawrence tells ESPN.



Warriors' Joe Lacob says the franchise will retire Kevin Durant's No. 35 jersey, in statement thanking Durant.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent G Edmond Sumner has agreed to a three-year deal with the Indiana Pacers, Excel Sports agents Sean Kennedy and Jared Mucha tell ESPN.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Free agent G Edmond Sumner has agreed to a three-year deal with the Indiana Pacers, Excel Sports agents Sean Kennedy and Jared Mucha tell ESPN.


How was this not announced on SportsCenter? I assume the Commish still has to approve it? :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent G Wesley Matthews has agreed to a deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league sources tell ESPN.

[loveforthegame]

Toronto making moves. :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/nikosvarlas/status/1145772202765279238

[sasaint]

Free agent center/forward Richaun Holmes has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal with the Sacramento Kings, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

I would have liked Richaun for the Spurs to develop.

[sasaint]

Toronto making moves. :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/nikosvarlas/status/1145772202765279238


A signal that number 2 is gone?

[anon]

A signal that number 2 is gone?
Danny Green could be. Thomas plays the 2.

[MoSpur02]

Frank Kaminsky signs with the Suns per Woj for two years for $10 million

[timtonymanu]

Thank God. I feel like Pop would have had an irrational love fest with Kaminsky

[TimDunkem]

^Bullet dodged.

[RiverwalkParade]

Everyone is 2 years 10m today

[Dverde]

I hope people are noticing the price for a quality guard. Dejounte Murray at 15M per year isn’t that outrageous.

[MoSpur02]

Yeah I didn't want Kaminsky either. I thought for sure Pop would sign Kaminsky. Just seemed like a typical Spurs signing.

[timtonymanu]

I hope people are noticing the price for a quality guard. Dejounte Murray at 15M per year isn’t that outrageous.

Not in today’s NBA for sure. If Patty makes 12 million a year, then dejounte definitely should earn more than that

[r0drig0lac]

Jimmy Butler deal is complete with Heat -- with Clippers added as a fourth-team in trade that also includes Philadelphia and Portland, league sources tell ZachLowe_NBA and me.

[loveforthegame]

Harkless going to Clippers.

[TimDunkem]

Spurs are done for sure. Unless they waive Metu or move some dead weight, there's no room left for another player.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145802484830625794

[Clipper Nation]

Nice trade for the Clippers. Quality player on an expiring deal, got a first-round pick for free, and still have a max slot.

[Realdeal1]

Never mind

[r0drig0lac]

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Had just finished the math on this. It may require renouncing a couple of minor cap holds, but the max slot is intact as long as the Clippers are getting only Harkless in 2019-20 salary here.

[venitian navigator]

with Harckless thay will have less cap space...is the remaining enough for a n° 2 max? if not, that could be a clue tha n° 2 is headed elsewhere...

[loveforthegame]

Pretty sure that’s not the second star Leonard had in mind. :lol. Nice deal for the Clips though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145803351852048389

[venitian navigator]

sorry...too late...

[dubross]

Pretty sure that’s not the second star Leonard had in mind. :lol. Nice deal for the Clips though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145803351852048389

actually, they are trying to get Bradley beal to team up with Leonard. Got a first rd pick out the deal, coupled with a first of their own and the expiring deal of Gallonari and probably a young player to entice the Wizards. that's the talk

[Clipper Nation]

Pretty sure that’s not the second star Leonard had in mind. :lol. Nice deal for the Clips though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145803351852048389
That first-round pick we got could help us trade for a second star, though.

[NASpurs]

actually, they are trying to get Bradley beal to team up with Leonard. Got a first rd pick out the deal, coupled with a first of their own and the expiring deal of Gallonari and probably a young player to entice the Wizards. that's the talk

That would be actually pretty cool. It is what it is now but fuck joining the Lakers. KL seems to want to go to the Clips while his uncle dad is pushing him to the Lakers.

[Realdeal1]

Trade derozan to clippers and team him up with kahwi lmao

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

That Miami Heat/Sixers/Clippers trade confused me initially since every fucking name including Dragic and Olynik was being thrown around.

1145803586464604161

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/moe_harkless/status/1145805298378002432

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145812203993534465

[Seventyniner]

https://mobile.twitter.com/moe_harkless/status/1145805298378002432

No but we got his digits right here.
https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/young-woman-showing-middle-finger-picture-id1015117134?k=6&m=1015117134&s=612x612&w=0&h=zyDqz7hzCS4-1LPmEkdNDj4Ao1171xof9a74cplPUk4=

[MoSpur02]

Jordan Bell has agreed to join the Timberwolves per Chris Haynes

[John B]

Jordan Bell has agreed to join the Timberwolves per Chris Haynes
U-oh jumping off ship

[Dverde]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145825046990151680
Good luck Pau :lol

[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145825046990151680
Good luck Pau :lol

Fuck that faggot

[gambit1990]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145825046990151680
PATFO:
https://media.tenor.com/images/ade0e6a09ac86db5c5c762423e9826d7/tenor.gif

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769

[NASpurs]

Fuck that faggot

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769
wow dirt cheap

[spurraider21]

also kawhi to lakers is gonna happen tbh

[GreekSpursfan]

It appears that kawhitter will sign with the mighty faggots, what a bitch his uncle turned out to be.

[DPG21920]

also kawhi to lakers is gonna happen tbh

You falling for Reddit huh

[spurraider21]

You falling for Reddit huh
just not in denial anymore tbh

[gambit1990]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769
great value for GS. wish he had left.

[Dverde]

also kawhi to lakers is gonna happen tbh

i won’t believe it until the Clipps spend their cap room. Doc and Jerry West are not getting a no.

[r0drig0lac]

RDAmbition
@RDAmbition_
Breaking News: Kawhi Leonard to Lakers is officially done. Both sides working on minor details at the moment before announcing deal. #Lakers #NBA

[timtonymanu]

Fuck that faggot

[kobyz]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769

Wow we could have snatch him from Golden State with mle offer, we missed out bigtime in this! Fuck RC!

[kobyz]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769

Wow we could have snatch him from Golden State with mle offer, we missed out bigtime in this! Fuck RC!

[Leetonidas]

Wow we could have snatch him from Golden State with mle offer, we missed out bigtime in this! Fuck RC!

So we need a backup C? Jesus you're retarded.

[YoungbuckMurray]

If Kawhi goes to lakers it’s a bigger b*tch move than KD going to warriors. This is why I can’t stand the NBA soft cap. Get a hard cap in where teams can’t just buy a team. Lakers have drafted, and developed and managed their team pathetically but are gonna have AD, Lebron, and Kawhi

[tbdog]

Leonard hasn't even met Raptors yet who get the final pitch.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Leonard hasn't even met Raptors yet who get the final pitch.


He doesn't trust them anymore.

[dubross]

https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1145863032137871362?s=21

Could the spurs possibly nab him?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers/status/1145863608141791232

[sasaint]

If Kawhi goes to lakers it’s a bigger b*tch move than KD going to warriors. This is why I can’t stand the NBA soft cap. Get a hard cap in where teams can’t just buy a team. Lakers have drafted, and developed and managed their team pathetically but are gonna have AD, Lebron, and Kawhi

Exactly!

[sasaint]

He doesn't trust them anymore.


:lol

[Kurgan]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145843892488736769

Wow, that's a good contract. I'm surprised he didn't get any better offers. Guess he just likes it there.

[cool cat]

Leonard hasn't even met Raptors yet who get the final pitch.

:lol:lmao:lmao:lol

[cjw]

If Kawhi goes to lakers it’s a bigger b*tch move than KD going to warriors. This is why I can’t stand the NBA soft cap. Get a hard cap in where teams can’t just buy a team. Lakers have drafted, and developed and managed their team pathetically but are gonna have AD, Lebron, and Kawhi

How would having a hard cap have prevented this? They literally have a lower cap number right now than all but one other team.

Or do you mean on the back end that prevents packing the roster with cheap guys right before they get paid and then using up all cap space? That would hamstring small market teams.

[YoungbuckMurray]

How would having a hard cap have prevented this? They literally have a lower cap number right now than all but one other team.

Or do you mean on the back end that prevents packing the roster with cheap guys right before they get paid and then using up all cap space? That would hamstring small market teams.

There would be no MLE, no ability to just hand 5 guys veteran minimum deals. Plus any players that want raises the following year can’t just be retained for any price due to the fact they were already on the team. Would also make it a lot easier to follow as a fan. As well there wouldn’t be a set “max number a team can spend as much as they like on a single player. I do like that if you stay with your team you can earn an extra year as that can help keep players if you are a small market team

[cjw]

There would be no MLE, no ability to just hand 5 guys veteran minimum deals. Plus any players that want raises the following year can’t just be retained for any price due to the fact they were already on the team. Would also make it a lot easier to follow as a fan. As well there wouldn’t be a set “max number a team can spend as much as they like on a single player. I do like that if you stay with your team you can earn an extra year as that can help keep players if you are a small market team

The MLE is used by every team in the league unless signing big name FA.

But I DO agree on the minimum contracts. There should be a right of first refusal on any veteran playing on a one year deal. If anyone is willing to pay them more than the minimum, then that team can’t sign them to a minimum contract. Not exactly sure how you’d prevent abuse of this, but there is no reason a guy should be able to sign for the min when a team that has cap space left or part of the MLE left would pay them more.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145883651038699521

[Ice009]

Wow. What a fall for Isaiah Thomas. What a fall.

[Mugen]

:lol Props to the Wizards staying under the radar for being one of the dumbest fucking teams this offseason tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

man seriously if they can get rid of mills contract, would open playing time for the younger guys

its not like the spurs dont have a spark of the bench, just that popabitch wont give any of his young turds the green light to chuck bricks without subbing them off the first mistake they make on the court... then again u have forbes and belli still on the roster...

spurs needs real niggas on the team, im happy with the carroll signing, cause his a real no tolerance energy hustle mofo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsmuElafSY

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145916514517815297

[slick'81]

man seriously if they can get rid of mills contract, would open playing time for the younger guys

its not like the spurs dont have a spark of the bench, just that popabitch wont give any of his young turds the green light to chuck bricks without subbing them off the first mistake they make on the court... then again u have forbes and belli still on the roster...

spurs needs real niggas on the team, im happy with the carroll signing, cause his a real no tolerance energy hustle mofo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsmuElafSY


Barring a miracle were stuck with mills for atleast this coming season

[kobyz]

Boban could be an option to use rest of the mle for center depth...

[SpursRussia]

Still not too late to give RHJ the remaining MLE for a 2 year deal (2nd year TO), just need to clear a roster spot, hopefully with a Belli for 2nd trade

[SAGirl]

Curry deal: Four years, $32M, agent Alex Saratsis tells ESPN.
I might be incorrect but I think it's an overpay for Seth Curry or it might signal Bryn Forbes is in a bargain deal and will get paid after this upcoming season (by the Spurs or elsewhere).

Bryn Forbes is very comparable and earns a fraction of that. Two seasons ago Seth was better, but then Seth got injured and took a long time to recover. Meanwhile, Bryn Forbes has been healthy and gotten better since then.

[Texas_Ranger]

In a rare gesture rewarding Lou Williams' play and leadership, the Los Angeles Clippers and Sixth Man of the Year have agreed to completely guarantee his $8M salary for 2020-21 a full season ahead, agent Wallace Prather told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.,

Teams don't typically fully guarantee a season's salary this early. For Williams and the Clippers, it is a win. Williams now has his $2M partial for 2020-21 become fully guaranteed at $8M. He has made clear his happiness in L.A. and is coming off another strong season.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146078135479341058

[K...]

The Spurs can use the rest of the mle on Tony Parker right? I guess that's for after they trade Marco but still it's like free money

[ZeusWillJudge]

The Spurs can use the rest of the mle on Tony Parker right? I guess that's for after they trade Marco but still it's like free money


No roster spots. They'd have to just dump Belli, because if they take a player in return there's no place on the roster for Tony.

And I assume you're talking about bringing back Tony for 1 day, so he can retire a Spur. Right?

[ironman2886]

No roster spots. They'd have to just dump Belli, because if they take a player in return there's no place on the roster for Tony.

And I assume you're talking about bringing back Tony for 1 day, so he can retire a Spur. Right?
I was thinking the same thing. 1 day contract to retire with Spurs.

[bluebellmaniac]

No roster spots. They'd have to just dump Belli, because if they take a player in return there's no place on the roster for Tony.

And I assume you're talking about bringing back Tony for 1 day, so he can retire a Spur. Right?

I wonder if the league would allow them to sign him, over and above the 15 man limit for that purpose. He is a future HOF'er.

[JeffDuncan]

This shows the Spurs current roster/contract situation:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

I agree that it would be good for Tony to retire as a Spur. A way can be found.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I wonder if the league would allow them to sign him, over and above the 15 man limit for that purpose. He is a future HOF'er.


They made two extra roster spots in the AS Game this year, for Dirk and Wade. I don't see why not.

[duncan2150]

This shows the Spurs current roster/contract situation:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

I agree that it would be good for Tony to retire as a Spur. A way can be found.

So we sign Caroll with capspace , then rudy with early BR and we still have the room exception ? i'm not sur of that, if someone can confirm that.

[DesignatedT]

Need to package Belinelli and Bertans for a solid reserve 3. That's $13M in salary right there.

Also, what are the chances LAC has any interest in bring DeRozan back home if they strike out on Kawhi and Leonard signs long-term elsewhere?

[duncan2150]

Need to package Belinelli and Bertans for a solid reserve 3. That's $13M in salary right there.

Also, what are the chances LAC has any interest in bring DeRozan back home if they strike out on Kawhi and Leonard signs long-term elsewhere?

we already have that reserve 3 with Caroll imo. I really think he will play a majority of Small Foward position.

[DesignatedT]

we already have that reserve 3 with Caroll imo. I really think he will play a majority of Small Foward position.

From what I have been reading Carroll is more of a 4 at this point in his career and I thought he played the majority of his minutes at the 4 for Brooklyn last year. Something like this would be ideal:

White / Mills
Murray / Forbes / Walker
DeRozan / SF via Trade / Johnson
Carroll / Gay / Samanic
Aldridge / Poeltl / Eubanks or other Cheap C

[Mugen]

Need to package Belinelli and Bertans for a solid reserve 3. That's $13M in salary right there.

Also, what are the chances LAC has any interest in bring DeRozan back home if they strike out on Kawhi and Leonard signs long-term elsewhere?


From what I have been reading Carroll is more of a 4 at this point in his career and I thought he played the majority of his minutes at the 4 for Brooklyn last year. Something like this would be ideal:

White / Mills
Murray / Forbes / Walker
DeRozan / SF via Trade / Johnson
Carroll / Gay / Samanic
Aldridge / Poeltl / Eubanks or other Cheap C

Yup - I've been wanting this for a while now. It just simply doesn't make sense to have all of Forbes/Beli/Bertans on the roster. If anything, you're just taking minutes away from Lonnie who looks like he's on the verge of being a major contributor this year.

Beli + Bertans for Marvin Williams makes too much sense for both teams. (I don't think we need a pure 3 as Derozan, Carroll, and Lonnie can all play that position in the spurs system). I also think Quindarry has a chance of making the final roster, so my roster ends up looking a lot like yours with me obviously switching Lonnie and Bryn since I think IV is a significantly better player:

Dejounte / Mills / Quindarry
White / Lonnie / Bryn
Derozan / Carroll / Keldon
Marvin WIlliams / Rudy Gay / Samancic
LMA / Poetl / Eubanks

That's about as good as you're gonna get heading into next season...

[Chinook]

If Carroll is the bench three, it'll only be in a similar situation as Gay was last year where he played there with Bertans. Then I guess it's just up to your preference which position who played. I expect him to at least get a chance to win the starting PF job. That's where his skills are most needed. Pop seems to agree with a number of Spurs fans when it comes to wanting a big, slow lineup with poor spacing if he can get away with it. So there is a chance he goes Murray/DeRozan/Carroll/Aldridge/Poeltl or Murray/White/DeRozan/Aldridge/Poeltl to start the year. But I think the grind of the season will eventually lead him to a Murray(or White)/Forbes/DeRozan/Carroll/Aldridge unit, which has adequate spacing, playmaking and defense, while giving the second unit a combo of players who could lead the league in bench production.

[Chinook]

Yup - I've been wanting this for a while now. It just simply doesn't make sense to have all of Forbes/Beli/Bertans on the roster. If anything, you're just taking minutes away from Lonnie who looks like he's on the verge of being a major contributor this year.

Beli + Bertans for Marvin Williams makes too much sense for both teams. (I don't think we need a pure 3 as Derozan, Carroll, and Lonnie can all play that position in the spurs system). I also think Quindarry has a chance of making the final roster, so my roster ends up looking a lot like yours with me obviously switching Lonnie and Bryn since I think IV is a significantly better player:

Dejounte / Mills / Quindarry
White / Lonnie / Bryn
Derozan / Carroll / Keldon
Marvin WIlliams / Rudy Gay / Samancic
LMA / Poetl / Eubanks

That's about as good as you're gonna get heading into next season...

That's a solid enough roster. Gay/Carroll might be able to make it as a bench forward duo. I think Bryn will get time no matter what, though. He's just been too good. I think he'll have a better chance to start than he will to be third string. Still, getting Weatherspoon on a three-year deal would be nice, and they could even do that with Eubanks with the rest of the MLE. I do think Metu will have something to say though. The Spurs gave him two guaranteed years for a reason.

[JeffDuncan]

They made two extra roster spots in the AS Game this year, for Dirk and Wade. I don't see why not.

If the Spurs haven't signed Quinndary to a two-way yet, they have that two-way available to sign Parker. It would make Parker a Spurs player, who could suit up for the first home game, then retire as a Spur at the end of the game.

It would mean compensating QW in some other way, until the 2-way can be given to him after that first home game.

It would be funny to "recall" Tony from Austin.

[SAGirl]

If the Spurs haven't signed Quinndary to a two-way yet, they have that two-way available to sign Parker. It would make Parker a Spurs player, who could suit up for the first home game, then retire as a Spur at the end of the game.

It would mean compensating QW in some other way, until the 2-way can be given to him after that first home game.

It would be funny to "recall" Tony from Austin.
I don't think that is the purpose of the two way deal tho. I think you can only sign guys who are in the first 4 years in the league (rook deal equivalents) to such a deal bc it's a player development deal.
Quin may have already been signed to the 2way, as well. I am not sure about this tho, but it doesn't matter for Tony's purposes.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Dorian Finney-Smith has agreed to a three-year, $12M deal to re-sign with the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

thats a pretty good deal

[Texas_Ranger]

The Boston Celtics and French center Vincent Poirier have agreed to a two-year deal, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Poirier is a 6-foot-11 center who will provide additional front court depth in Boston.

[JeffDuncan]

I don't think that is the purpose of the two way deal tho. I think you can only sign guys who are in the first 4 years in the league ...

I never paid much attention to the 2 way stuff, but I looked it up and you're right.

So, heck, no 2 way for Tony. Pity.

[duncan2150]

If Carroll is the bench three, it'll only be in a similar situation as Gay was last year where he played there with Bertans. Then I guess it's just up to your preference which position who played. I expect him to at least get a chance to win the starting PF job. That's where his skills are most needed. Pop seems to agree with a number of Spurs fans when it comes to wanting a big, slow lineup with poor spacing if he can get away with it. So there is a chance he goes Murray/DeRozan/Carroll/Aldridge/Poeltl or Murray/White/DeRozan/Aldridge/Poeltl to start the year. But I think the grind of the season will eventually lead him to a Murray(or White)/Forbes/DeRozan/Carroll/Aldridge unit, which has adequate spacing, playmaking and defense, while giving the second unit a combo of players who could lead the league in bench production.

It will be interesting to see if pop’s typical lineup will be with two bigs : lma and poetl or with aldridge at the 5. Offcourse that could depend on the opposite team and change from game to game.

But if we go with two bigs, we need a better insurance than Eubanks and the other spots could be too loaded.

Last year the nets played an extra small ball so caroll was more a 4, I see him as a 3 and Rudy more a 4 but we’ll see.

[lmbebo]

Think it was just postulation by Evan Cohen on NBA radio, but said he wondered if the Lakers lose out on Kwahi, that if they would like to look at a 2nd tier player like Derozan as a salary dump the spurs with the spurs sending a 1st round draft pick .... Can't for the life of me even conceive that ever happening, esp between those 2 teams.

[SAGirl]

That's a solid enough roster. Gay/Carroll might be able to make it as a bench forward duo. I think Bryn will get time no matter what, though. He's just been too good. I think he'll have a better chance to start than he will to be third string. Still, getting Weatherspoon on a three-year deal would be nice, and they could even do that with Eubanks with the rest of the MLE. I do think Metu will have something to say though. The Spurs gave him two guaranteed years for a reason.
Metu for right now remains an enigma. It's too bad he got injured at a very inopportune time. I can't predict how that goes with him, but I think he needed to show something this summer and in preseason. Not that the Spurs would cut him just to cut him, but it's always possible for someone else to impress in preseason and make a case for himself. Bryn for example made the team with no roster spots available bc Pop and Chip were absolutely sold on "the Magazine" in practices. We just don't know there is someone like that in the preseason roster yet, but Metu needs to show up and I don't know how his foot injury will affect his readiness.

I agree with you on Bryn. As much as I was critical of him previously (and mostly bc he was overplayed) he really improved and stepped up his game. He may play less minutes overall than last season, bc Spurs have a lot of guards and they may stay healthy this year and hopefully also be good, but Bryn will still play. I do think someone is going to end up being "CoJo" in the team. That is, a guy who absolutely can play in the rotation and eventually would do that elsewhere, but in a team currently too deep in guards his minutes varied widely from game to game. Who will that be, I don't know. I am hoping they are ready to move on from Belli... (bc Mills culture won't be traded as we all know.) And yet, there were times that Pop definitely preferred Belli over Davis, so really I don't know.

[NASpurs]

The Coffee Gang has gotten to Keldon Johnson. I can't believe Pop's allowing this disease to spread through the team.

jrx1l/szfnkp

[YoungbuckMurray]

Think it was just postulation by Evan Cohen on NBA radio, but said he wondered if the Lakers lose out on Kwahi, that if they would like to look at a 2nd tier player like Derozan as a salary dump the spurs with the spurs sending a 1st round draft pick .... Can't for the life of me even conceive that ever happening, esp between those 2 teams.

Derozen isn't a salary dump the guy still produces at a close to all star value. No way I'm giving up a 1st just to get rid of him

[ceperez]

Sean Marks and the Nets front office are 'light years ahead' of everybody: https://www.netsdaily.com/2019/7/2/20678658/secrets-of-the-clean-sweep-five-ways-sean-marks-et-al-manipulated-the-system-and-created-a-superteam

[K...]

Lmao the Lakers final and only trade asset is kuzma right? Cubbard is bare!

[kobyz]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146098412506570752
he's much better than milutinov btw...

[SAGirl]

I never paid much attention to the 2 way stuff, but I looked it up and you're right.

So, heck, no 2 way for Tony. Pity.
Yea, I am no expert either. Some of it I picked up from Chinook and others talking about it when it entered into effect.

But I also looked up last year how the Spurs were able to offer it to a player I considered a vet, Josh Huestis (drafted 2014). Turned out Huestis had been signed to that weird deal with OKC where he agreed to get stashed with no NBA contract for his first year after the draft and thus didn't become an NBA rook until 2015-16. It's a sidenote, way out of left field here... but he just happened to be on the 4th season after his "rook" one last season and I remembered it. He wouldn't be able to sign a 2 way deal this season or from now on.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146098412506570752
he's much better than milutinov btw...

I saw Poirier few times and I’m really not sure of that.

[exstatic]

Think it was just postulation by Evan Cohen on NBA radio, but said he wondered if the Lakers lose out on Kwahi, that if they would like to look at a 2nd tier player like Derozan as a salary dump the spurs with the spurs sending a 1st round draft pick .... Can't for the life of me even conceive that ever happening, esp between those 2 teams.

Sorry. If they want a fall back position borderline all star player, we aren't sending the pick, they are. There's no need to salary dump a player who puts up 21/6/6.

[Texas_Ranger]

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[pad300]

Sorry. If they want a fall back position borderline all star player, we aren't sending the pick, they are. There's no need to salary dump a player who puts up 21/6/6.

They better be sending out more than 1 IMO. And after the NOP deal, i'm not sure that they have first's to trade. Remember the Stepien Rule.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145825046990151680
Good luck Pau :lol
:lmao:lmao Wtf is this guy fuckin serious. Give us the 5 mil back you bum

[Drom John]

:lmao:lmao Wtf is this guy fuckin serious. Give us the 5 mil back you bum

I believe every dollar Pau gets this year up to the $5M comes off the Spurs books.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV

[JeffDuncan]

I believe every dollar Pau gets this year up to the $5M comes off the Spurs books.

Spurs "Dead Cap" of $5,074,856.

[Leetonidas]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV

:vomit: please no

[NASpurs]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV

If it's for the minimum, why not?

...

...

...

But seriously, Pop might murder Boogie.

[John B]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV
We gettin Cousins?? :hungry: Tbh I’m all for that. If any coach can do it, Pop can. He must be tired of losing.
Come on RC/Pop. I’ll run Murray, White, Demar, Aldridge, Cousins with anybody. You can even put Carroll in there for shooting instead of Demar.

[Chinook]

I believe every dollar Pau gets this year up to the $5M comes off the Spurs books.

Nope. Set-off in the NBA is half of all the money you earn over the min. So if for example a guy gets a deal for $5.5M, his previous team would save $[(5.5-2.5)/2]M=$1.5M

But Pau agreed to a buyout, and that almost always includes the releasing team's waiver of set-off rights. Mostly likely, whatever Gasol gets this year, SA doesn't save a cent.

That may seem dumb for them to give up set-off rights for only $1.8Mish in savings, but they weren't likely to save a cent this summer had they waited until now to just release Pau. He's almost certainly going to get a min deal if that, and that would mean zero set-off. PATFO did an okay job getting a bit back by moving Pau early. Saving grace.

[Dverde]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV

He played hard in the finals. I would give him a shot. I doubt Pop wants to deal with him though. OMG could you picture him in the coffee gang :lol :lol

[YoungbuckMurray]

He played hard in the finals. I would give him a shot. I doubt Pop wants to deal with him though

I'd be all for it too. He could finally play on a winning team with a good system and culture. Pop can handle him and teach him how to be a winner. We took on Rudy when he was considered a cancer, why not Boogie

[Leetonidas]

I'd be all for it too. He could finally play on a winning team with a good system and culture. Pop can handle him and teach him how to be a winner. We took on Rudy when he was considered a cancer, why not Boogie

Uhhh he just did. He was a net negative for the Warriors

[Chinook]

Demar has reached out to Cousins per Shams on NBATV

Maybe they're trying to pick a team for Cousins to sign with/DeRozan to be traded to?

Real-talk: The talent infusion would be nice, and because of the limited money SA has, they literally can't sign Cousins to a deal that would hurt them. I'm not sure if he fits, but he could probably help a team in the right roll if he ever gets his head on straight.

[NASpurs]

Remember when Boogie wanted to fight Sean Elliott? Good times.

[RD2191]

Boogie is a huge faggot tbh. Wouldn't mind him but he could easily derail a season if his toxicity spreads in the locker room. Not sure Pop would want a player like Boogie rubbing off on our young players.

[r0drig0lac]

If it's for the minimum, why not?

[John B]

Cousins coming to Spurs would make me forget nephew. Lakers would have a depleted team even if they get nephew. 7 games Spurs beat them. Come on RC/Pop.

[LCM]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146098412506570752
he's much better than milutinov btw...

He looks like he would type cast in a Russian prison movie. Beyond that he rolls to the basket well and could be a rim protector if refs don't call cheep fouls on him.

[Mugen]

Cousins coming to Spurs would make me forget nephew. Lakers would have a depleted team even if they get nephew. 7 games Spurs beat them. Come on RC/Pop.

:lol Cousins f'n sucks.

[look_at_g_shred]

What good is it for a player to reach out to a free agent if the FO is not trying themselves? All joking aside, he'd easily be the best C on the team. An upgrade imho..

[gambit1990]

maybe timmy / david could help cousins mature... not sure if he’s had big men of that caliber have influence on him in his career while with other organizations.

[bluebellmaniac]

maybe timmy / david could help cousins mature... not sure if he’s had big men of that caliber have influence on him in his career while with other organizations.

He's a grownass man. Nobody is going to change who he is at this point.

[Big Empty]

Hed be a good tool to have in the box. Alot of solid teams have a solid big man.

[MoSpur02]

I posted a day or so ago that I actually wouldn't mind Cousins. He has to get 100% healthy though. He won't demand a lot money because of his recent injuries and his performance somewhat so if you can get him for cheap, why not?

[Degoat]

What else do spurs fan want lol DMC was fine last year before he got hurt in the playoffs, he’s not the same guy he was on the kings but anyways I’m sure he ends up back with GSW

[Realdeal1]

I would love Cousins on the Spurs

[8FOR!3]

I mean it’d be super low risk...

[Realdeal1]

Cousins only hope at decent money is with the lakers so he’s waiting out kahwi’s decision as well...

[ironman2886]

Cousins only hope at decent money is with the lakers so he’s waiting out kahwi’s decision as well...
This.

I wouldnt mind Boogie on the Spurs, but he has to be waiting for Lakers.

[sasaint]

I'd be all for it too. He could finally play on a winning team with a good system and culture. Pop can handle him and teach him how to be a winner. We took on Rudy when he was considered a cancer, why not Boogie

Do Rudy and Boogie have a good relationship?

[Pavlov]

What happened to Boogie's outside shot? He was a lot better potential fit when that was falling.

[NickiRasgo]

To be fair with DMC, he's being nice lately.
I won't mind him for a decent deal - who knows, it might be a high reward.

[NickiRasgo]

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[exstatic]

Cousins only hope at decent money is with the lakers so he’s waiting out kahwi’s decision as well...

If the Lakers sign Kawhi, everyone else gets minimum. They just won't have any exceptions to pay anyone anything else.

[FutureMan]

So how much can we offer Cousins? Carroll took up only like 6 millions right? So 3 million for Cousins??

[K...]

Isn't gsw hard capped after dlo?

[Mugen]

If the Lakers sign Kawhi, everyone else gets minimum. They just won't have any exceptions to pay anyone anything else.

I think they'd still have the room MLE if I'm not mistaken tbh...

Clippers in theory could bring in Nephew plus somebody like Danny...and still be able to move Gallo if Nephew/Dennis wanted somebody else instead tbh...

KL with the Clipps would honestly be a Top 1-3 seed and a top 3 title favorite IMO provided they don't completely fall apart when Nephew does his load management....

Bev/Danny/Kawhi/Gallo/Trez
SGA/Lou/Veteran Signing/Zubac

With some flexibility to bring in upgrades during the season....

[pad300]

If the Lakers sign Kawhi, everyone else gets minimum. They just won't have any exceptions to pay anyone anything else.

Yes, but if they don't sign kawhi, they have $32M or so and a roster to fill out. No to mention if they do, the Clips are in the same boat...

[YoungbuckMurray]

Anyone know how much money we would have to get Cousins?

[Larry O]

Do Rudy and Boogie have a good relationship?

Besides from them playing in Sacto, I'm sure that RG22 reached out to Boogie & provided support to him when he tore his Achilles as well. That commonality could be a bond between the two. But this team needs someone like Boogie who can bring some NASTY to this team! Perhaps Rudy, DeMar & Pop can be a positive influence on him, provided that we can get him on the cheap, cheap. BUT would someone have to be the "sacrificial lamb?" Who would have to be the one to go? Eubanks, Metu or Bertans? One can only dream...

[loveforthegame]

Danny’s got to get a better hype man.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisonSanford/status/1146134446128734215

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisonSanford/status/1146144195750637569

[John B]

Besides from them playing in Sacto, I'm sure that RG22 reached out to Boogie & provided support to him when he tore his Achilles as well. That commonality could be a bond between the two. But this team needs someone like Boogie who can bring some NASTY to this team! Perhaps Rudy, DeMar & Pop can be a positive influence on him, provided that we can get him on the cheap, cheap. BUT would someone have to be the "sacrificial lamb?" Who would have to be the one to go? Eubanks, Metu or Bertans? One can only dream...
I’d give all 3 and more. Cousins with Aldridge, Murray, White, Demar/Carroll, Pop beats anybody. Period.

[John B]

Nephew gone, bring in Cousins :lol

[NASpurs]

There was another tweet in which Sanford said that Danny is learning towards going with the Mavs.

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[loveforthegame]

He told Mavs fans to tune in so that was my guess. Danny would be dumb to wai5 any longer on Leonard. Secure your bag while you still can.

[8FOR!3]

Mavs need to replace Wes Matthews, DG could definitely do that. Good organization, good city, happy for Danny if that's where he ends up.

[gambit1990]

cousins seems to have a short fuse and play angry a lot. you don’t play winning basketball by playing angrily, you have to enjoy the game.

[John B]

I’d rather see DG in Mavs uniform than nephew’s bitch in Lakers uniform. Have a pride Danny.

[Harry Callahan]

Think it was just postulation by Evan Cohen on NBA radio, but said he wondered if the Lakers lose out on Kwahi, that if they would like to look at a 2nd tier player like Derozan as a salary dump the spurs with the spurs sending a 1st round draft pick .... Can't for the life of me even conceive that ever happening, esp between those 2 teams.

Evan Cohen is an anti SA guy. Obnoxious on top of everything else. Why would SA give them a pick anyway right now? What is the benefit of that right now? What players would you pick up? DeRozan might be useful at the trade deadline early next year for a team needing a scorer.

Some of these guys are just stupid. They never stop trying to improve the Lakers where LAL gives up nothing. LAL panicked and jettisoned most of their current and future assets because of the bad publicity and optics of their situation. They signed LeBron James with no plan of building the team and they panicked. Let the Lakers actually develop pieces around their potential Axis of Evil. Good luck on that.

[SpursBills]

If DG signs with the mavs it's basically a given kawhi signs with the lakers. Raptors have no way of signing anyone else bc they're capped out and so their title aspirations get weaker without another wing defender

[NickiRasgo]

I’d give all 3 and more. Cousins with Aldridge, Murray, White, Demar/Carroll, Pop beats anybody. Period.

Bertans, Belinelli, Forbes and Mills, if possible.

[acoelho1]

There was another tweet in which Sanford said that Danny is learning towards going with the Mavs.

1146154448990932992

Kawhi just being a good teammate. Keep defending him Danny.

[slick'81]

What good is it for a player to reach out to a free agent if the FO is not trying themselves? All joking aside, he'd easily be the best C on the team. An upgrade imho..


Or pick on timmy

[GusT15]

cousins seems to have a short fuse and play angry a lot. you don’t play winning basketball by playing angrily, you have to enjoy the game.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WarpedNearDormouse-size_restricted.gif

[slick'81]

Somebody will bite on boggie once kawhi makes up his damn mind

[YoungbuckMurray]

Caulley Stein to Warriors. Where do they find all the money. Stupid soft cap

[r0drig0lac]

Free agent center Willie Cauley-Stein has reached an agreement with the Golden State Warriors, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. ThompsonScribe first.


damn

[Mugen]

Yeah, Boogie is going to whichever LA team doesn't land the Nephew

[kobyz]

We really need Cousins to off set Jacob lack of offense, we not always could survive playing 4 on 5 on offense...

[slick'81]

Free agent center Willie Cauley-Stein has reached an agreement with the Golden State Warriors, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Thompson (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9122)Scribe first.


damn



Warriors not giving up

[r0drig0lac]

Can confirm. Cauley-Stein will sign for something slightly above the minimum salary, a source says.

Golden State was $7M below the tax apron with five roster spots to fill. Before the signing, if GSW filled out the team with 3 minimums and both second round picks, the team would have been $392K below the apron.

[Leetonidas]

WCS is an ok pickup for GS. Dude needs to fire his agent if he signed for the minimum tho. This Warriors team will be lucky to win a series next year

[Budkin]

And the Warriors are right back into title contention. *sigh*

[slick'81]

And the Warriors are right back into title contention. *sigh*


Yup clippers are obvioulsy falling out of playoffs imo without kawhi

[GusT15]

Caulley Stein to Warriors. Where do they find all the money. Stupid soft cap

So if Klay returns healthy sometime in March they have

Curry
Russell
Klay
Raymond
WCS

Bench:Cook,Looney

They are still contenders...

[John B]

Several takes on no market for big man in the NBA. Come on, Cousins/Aldridge could set the clock back to big men game. Murray/White covering the ball, Carroll the 3? Dang, nobody’s gonna score.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Murray- Forbes- DD- LMA- Cousins
White- LW- Bertans/Carrol- Gay/Carrol- Poetl

Close with
Murray- White- DD- LMA- Cousins

That is a pretty solid rotation imo

[TD 21]

So if Klay returns healthy sometime in March they have

Curry
Russell
Klay
Raymond
WCS

Bench:Cook,Looney

They are still contenders...

Green/Paschall
Thompson/Robinson/McKinnie
Cauley-Stein/Looney/Jones
Russell/Evans/Poole
Curry

Cook is an RFA, while Livingston is partially guaranteed and supposedly likely to be waived and retire.

With basically only the minimum to offer to fill out their roster, even if Scumbag signs with the Clippers and the league is as wide open as it gets, that's not a contender.

Even if Thompson returns, he's not going to be 100% both in terms of level of play or minutes. Meanwhile, the defense has been gutted and the depth is even worse.

[FutureMan]

So if Klay returns healthy sometime in March they have

Curry
Russell
Klay
Raymond
WCS

Bench:Cook,Looney

They are still contenders...

Contenders?? If you’re not 1-4 in the standings then you’re not a contender

[FkLA]

How the hell did they sign him? Another S&T? I don't think this puts them back in contention but still, unless it's a S&T that's some shady shit.

[tonight...you]

How the hell did they sign him? Another S&T? I don't think this puts them back in contention but still, unless it's a S&T that's some shady shit.
Funny things happen in the Bay area...

[Leetonidas]

How the hell did they sign him? Another S&T? I don't think this puts them back in contention but still, unless it's a S&T that's some shady shit.

Posters on here love to overreact. Klay will be out for a year with the ACL tear. So they lose KD and replace him with D'Angelo Russel and WCS and ST thinks they're back in the hunt. :lmao not really that much different than replacing Leonard with Derozan and Poeltl

[timtonymanu]

Posters on here love to overreact. Klay will be out for a year with the ACL tear. So they lose KD and replace him with D'Angelo Russel and WCS and ST thinks they're back in the hunt. :lmao not really that much different than replacing Leonard with Derozan and Poeltl

^

[GusT15]

Green/Paschall
Thompson/McKinnie
Cauley-Stein/Looney/Jones
Russell/Evans/Poole
Curry

Cook is an RFA, while Livingston is partially guaranteed and supposedly likely to be waived and retire.

With basically only the minimum to offer to fill out their roster, even if Scumbag signs with the Clippers and the league is as wide open as it gets, that's not a contender.

Even if Thompson returns, he's not going to be 100% both in terms of level of play or minutes. Meanwhile, the defense has been gutted and the depth is even worse.

I said IF Klay returns healthy tho... And i meant the if for both if he returns and if he's healthy.

And i think they're good on paper tbh.They are obviously not the overwhelming favorite to win it all but what's the case for POR/HOU/UTA/OKC over that roster?

I dunno what Nephew will do so i don't know which one of LAL or LAC is in the upper tier of contenders.And i think the Nuggets will be pretty good this season-just like last season,and they'll play better in the POs.

So LAC or LAL,Denver,GSW.(That's a combination of regular season seeding and playoff strength cause GSW is fighting for 5-8 without Klay)

[TD 21]

I said IF Klay returns healthy tho... And i meant the if for both if he returns and if he's healthy.

And i think they're good on paper tbh.They are obviously not the overwhelming favorite to win it all but what's the case for POR/HOU/UTA/OKC over that roster?

I dunno what Nephew will do so i don't know which one of LAL or LAC is in the upper tier of contenders.And i think the Nuggets will be pretty good this season-just like last season,and they'll play better in the POs.

So LAC or LAL,Denver,GSW.(That's a combination of regular season seeding and playoff strength cause GSW is fighting for 5-8 without Klay)

Of course he'll be healthy if he returns, otherwise they'll sit him out the entire season. But there's nothing they can do that would literally make him back to his peak form by February/March.

You're underestimating the past 5 years of mileage and the toll its inevitably taken physically/mentally on the big 3. They went from probably expecting to have as good a chance as anyone for the foreseeable future when Durant left to now abruptly realizing it'll be a grind just to make the playoffs.

The case is those teams (take out the Thunder and add the Nuggets) are deeper and fresher, both physically and mentally. They also know this is their chance to breakthrough (unless Scumbag signs with the Lakers). The Warriors can't manufacture that type of desperation and urgency.

[GusT15]

Of course he'll be healthy if he returns, otherwise they'll sit him out the entire season. But there's nothing they can do that would literally make him back to his peak form by February/March.

You're underestimating the past 5 years of mileage and the toll its inevitably taken physically/mentally on the big 3. They went from probably expecting to have as good a chance as anyone for the foreseeable future when Durant left to now abruptly realizing it'll be a grind just to make the playoffs.

The case is those teams (take out the Thunder and add the Nuggets) are deeper and fresher, both physically and mentally. They also know their chance to breakthrough (unless Scumbag signs with the Lakers). The Warriors can't manufacture that type of motivation and urgency.

So you see them having an 03 Lakers kind of season? No motivation/energy/urgency,underperforming in the regular season and bad seeding.
Yeah,i can see that.My point is IF Klay Thompson returns in March and finds his rythm till the Playoffs they are gonna be a really dangerous team.As in fighting for the WCF kind of team.Ergo,a contender.

(And even the 03 Lakers had the GOAT knock them out,they didn't just give up...)

[BackHome]

It’s just a matter of time before Curry tears something hate to see that but it will happen sooner then latter. He is going to feel he has to carry the team and will push to hard and that’s when injuries happen.

[kobyz]

If we don't get Cousins this off season is terrible!

[TD 21]

So you see them having an 03 Lakers kind of season? No motivation/energy/urgency,underperforming in the regular season and bad seeding.
Yeah,i can see that.My point is IF Klay Thompson returns in March and finds his rythm till the Playoffs they are gonna be a really dangerous team.As in fighting for the WCF kind of team.Ergo,a contender.

(And even the 03 Lakers had the GOAT knock them out,they didn't just give up...)

They just (mostly) had their '03 Lakers season. I think this could be more like the '15 Spurs and I wouldn't entirely rule out the '15 Thunder (though they're not as decimated by injury as them).

Again, whether he returns and finds his rhythm or not, his minutes will be managed and making the conference finals doesn't automatically make one a contender. Look no further than the '19 Trail Blazers.

[YoungbuckMurray]

If we don't get Cousins this off season is terrible!

Does moving belli out give us more cap space to get him?

[GusT15]

They just (mostly) had their '03 Lakers season. I think this could be more like the '15 Spurs and I wouldn't entirely rule out the '15 Thunder (though they're not as decimated by injury as them).

Again, whether he returns and finds his rhythm or not, his minutes will be managed and making the conference finals doesn't automatically make one a contender. Look no further than the '19 Trail Blazers.

Hopefully,you're right.And hopefully,they play it safe and shut Klay down completely for 2020 if their team is not showing competitiveness.
That would mean a higher seeding for us :tu

(If they don't play it safe,i still don't want them in our bracket)

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146191047803965440

[bluebellmaniac]

Does moving belli out give us more cap space to get him?

No

[Leetonidas]

Does moving belli out give us more cap space to get him?

The spurs are operating over the cap. That's why people need to quit bitching about all these guys getting paid more than what we can even offer (in b4 b-b-but Aminu). Spurs only real option to open up space would be to trade one of LA or Derozan which likely isn't going to happen.

[jermaine]

At this point who dafuq Utah dont have?

[ace3g]

Saw a rumor today that Sebastian Ginobili might join coaching staff.

[tonight...you]

At this point who dafuq Utah dont have?
Lawd have mercy... Do I dislike the State of Utah.

It's dry? I'm out!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146201952071688199

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146201952071688199

Guessing McGee and/or Nene end up in LA.

[K...]

Is 2.6 the minimum?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1146211209328418816

[JeffDuncan]

Murray- Forbes- DD- LMA- Cousins
White- LW- Bertans/Carrol- Gay/Carrol- Poetl

Close with
Murray- White- DD- LMA- Cousins

That is a pretty solid rotation imo

We'd have to be careful about the auto spelling corrector.

Gay - White - Cousins - Marry, oops, Murray.

[ace3g]

Jazz are signing Kawhi

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146219534652780547

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1146219833010335744

[Duncan87]

Wow Spurs really done ? Really

[SAGirl]

Former austin Spur got paid. Good for him.
1146173440560390146

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1146222133103620101

[CGD]

Wow Spurs really done ? Really

Yup unless they make a trade. They’re at 15 slots.

[rastaspur]

Is 2.6 the minimum?

Depends on the amount of year's in the league. Longer tenure=more pay

[K...]

Depends on the amount of year's in the league. Longer tenure=more pay

More because if it isn't, that would fuck the kawhi room to sign right? This seems like it has no bearing on that because it's the minimum

[cutewizard]

wow

[timtonymanu]

Former austin Spur got paid. Good for him.
1146173440560390146

That scrub that only showed up against us last season and making us lose to a shitty Bulls team at home :lol

[Leetonidas]

More because if it isn't, that would fuck the kawhi room to sign right? This seems like it has no bearing on that because it's the minimum

Deal would likely be finalized after they sign Kawhi. So agreed to in principle and then official after Kawhi takes a max slot from them

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1146243854250598401

[Ice009]

To be fair with DMC, he's being nice lately.
I won't mind him for a decent deal - who knows, it might be a high reward.

I wanted Cousins when the Kings were looking to trade him. I really wanted him before he went to the Pelicans, but if we can get him now for a cheap deal, I'd be happier with that as it was a big risk trying to get him when he was on max money. I think Pop can get the best out of him. Demarcus and Russell Westbrook are two players I think Pop can get the best out of if they were to listen to him and buy in. I think they both need the type of hard ass coach like Pop is to push them to their best level and utilize all the talent they have.

Anyway, what is the talk about Demar reaching out to him? Was it Demar? I would have thought that is would be Rudy since Rudy played with him on the Kings. Anyone know if Demar is actually friends with him?

I have a feeling he's waiting to see where Kawhi goes, which sucks if he's interested and we don't get him due to Kawhi.

[DPG21920]

I wish sa would waive Metu or trade Beli. There are tons of solid players definitely better than who SA has now that are being had at incredible values.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/fishsports/status/1146202675718963201

[Payote75]

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-theres-not-a-market-for-de-marcus-cousins-030843966.html

hey look the dudes behaved pretty good too lately. Woj is saying this not some hack. The Spurs have taken chances on other head cases in the past such as rodman but please tell me this signing would not complete the Spurs lineup making so many parts interchangeable. LA prefers to play power forward if I recall anyway but we do have some extra wings and if we could trade Bertans who there is most definitely a taker or even better mills or dream come true would be both to a team that needs shooters I'd be willing to give him either 6 mill one year or try and tempt him with like 20 mill two years. Call me me crazy but with LA DD and Boogie they don't need to be super superstars alla AD LBJ and possibly Kawtter cause with the rest of the depth we would have and interchangeable pieces a healthy Murray I think we could come out of the west even against that super team (if it forms). It gives us our best shot and tell me you all wouldn't salivate after having to watch that loser kawitter win a chip to have the opportunity to ruin his super team and knock him the fuck out. And no I don't think boogie is the boogie of 3 years ago but he wouldn't have to be. Him and LA the Poetyrl (spelling). This has me dreaming.
Say what you want but the Spurs way can keep boogie in check pop can definitely....and he can play Spurs ball he is a very good passer shooters to shoot he can shoot the three it poses problems to play def on them let alone our def with those two and Murray wow.... Please let this happen basketball gods I beg you!!!!