Spurs 2019 offseason thread

[MoSpur02]

George Hill has signed to return to the Bucks.

[MoSpur02]

George Hill 3 years $29 million

[MoSpur02]

I hope #2 signs with the Clippers. I want to see the Lakers lose out again. Not even sure why exactly you would want to tie up all that money on Kawhi if I'm the Lakers. They have LeBron and Kuzma on the wing. Sign a Beverly and some outside shooters.

[mo7888]

If SA waives Metu they still have 3M in mle to spend for Stanley or Frank (or if they dump Beli)

I think the odds are above 50% that we move belli.

[Kurgan]

I hope #2 signs with the Clippers. I want to see the Lakers lose out again. Not even sure why exactly you would want to tie up all that money on Kawhi if I'm the Lakers. They have LeBron and Kuzma on the wing. Sign a Beverly and some outside shooters.

This is the same front office that signed Lebron and proceeded to surround him with no shooters. They don't care about logic, just big names. The trainwreck Kobe/Dwight/Nash pairing for example.

[DPG21920]

I hope #2 signs with the Clippers. I want to see the Lakers lose out again. Not even sure why exactly you would want to tie up all that money on Kawhi if I'm the Lakers. They have LeBron and Kuzma on the wing. Sign a Beverly and some outside shooters.

Well.......tricky thing about that is a ton of FA are gone now. Losing out on Kawhi means a lot less options for filling out the roster well. The longer Kawhi waits the bigger an issue that becomes. It’s kawhi, you have to wait, but damn, if DLO or Jimmy signs before Kawhi decides it could get really tricky for Lakers.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1145483356659806208

[DPG21920]

So SA obviously thinks rebuilding the Raptors roster might work this time...

[Russ]

Nice job by the Knicks signing Julius Randle to three years 63 million.

It may seem a bit high, but I like it.

[Hoops Czar]

Unless the Spurs plan on trashing the FO, holding a retirement dinner for Pop or relocating to Vegas, they should do nothing. There isn't a single player left on the market that can transform this team into a contender. If anything, they should entertain trade offers for DeRozan and LMA before they lose them for nothing.

[Realdeal1]

Spurs should just stand pat/ clear cap space and get ready to pursue Giannis in 2021 free agency

[callo1]

Beli will head back to Philly is my bet.

[cd98]

Spurs should just stand pat/ clear cap space and get ready to pursue Giannis in 2021 free agency

Yes, get him and Bud.

[DPG21920]

Pretty disappointing. I understood SA being on their heels making the Kawhi trade. They built a roster around Kawhi and now have a totally different player in DeRozan.

But to see the West so open and to have a full year to assess where this team is at and what works and doesn’t to make no changes other than adding Carroll?

It’s pretty damn disappointing even if I think SA can still be a solid team next season. But this front office is not doing the team/fans any favors lately and you’d expect more pep in their step after being brutally embarrassed by Kawhi and taking all kinds of sh*t in the media.

IT’s not awful and at least SA didn’t screw up the 2 year time line for no good reason but still. Pick a damn direction and go for it.

Feels like they unfairly are going to put all of this on Dejounte/Lonnie/White.

[slick'81]

Pretty disappointing. I understood SA being on their heels making the Kawhi trade. They built a roster around Kawhi and now have a totally different player in DeRozan.

But to see the West so open and to have a full year to assess where this team is at and what works and doesn’t to make no changes other than adding Carroll?

It’s pretty damn disappointing even if I think SA can still be a solid team next season. But this front office is not doing the team/fans any favors lately and you’d expect more pep in their step after being brutally embarrassed by Kawhi and taking all kinds of sh*t in the media.

IT’s not awful and at least SA didn’t screw up the 2 year time line for no good reason but still. Pick a damn direction and go for it.

Feels like they unfairly are going to put all of this on Dejounte/Lonnie/White.


Seem like the direction is summer of '21 when the core-ddr,lma,gay,mills,carrol expires

[GusT15]

Spurs should just stand pat/ clear cap space and get ready to pursue Giannis in 2021 free agency

In the same night the Bucks lost Brogdon to Indiana and signed Middleton to 35Mil$ per for 5 years ffs.

Clear the salary cap,develop the youth,and make a pitch for both of them.

[Ocotillo]

Guess we have to see what the young guns have. Lot of salary room in '21 and if White, Walker and DJ all pan out, you got to pay them. I get that Carroll is 33 but you can't just have a roster of young guys and be competitive. You need a few vets around. Who knows what else is going to happen by the time training camp is over. There could still be trades, maybe another signing or one of the summer league/training camp invites shines.

[MoSpur02]

The Nets need to move Harris right? Now that they tied up all that money to Durant and Irving?

[Kurik]

Pretty disappointing. I understood SA being on their heels making the Kawhi trade. They built a roster around Kawhi and now have a totally different player in DeRozan.

But to see the West so open and to have a full year to assess where this team is at and what works and doesn’t to make no changes other than adding Carroll?

It’s pretty damn disappointing even if I think SA can still be a solid team next season. But this front office is not doing the team/fans any favors lately and you’d expect more pep in their step after being brutally embarrassed by Kawhi and taking all kinds of sh*t in the media.

IT’s not awful and at least SA didn’t screw up the 2 year time line for no good reason but still. Pick a damn direction and go for it.

Feels like they unfairly are going to put all of this on Dejounte/Lonnie/White.

I don't think it's unfair to put some pressure on 3 first round picks, especially with the money the Spurs may have to spend to retain 2 of them in the future.

[DPG21920]

Seem like the direction is summer of '21 when the core-ddr,lma,gay,mills,carrol expires

That’s not a direction; that’s a holding pattern and trying to maintain and certainly not an optimal use of assets/opportunity.

[Realdeal1]

It seems like the plan for the Spurs is to stay competitive ( make the playoffs) these next 2 years with the trio of Gay, Derozan , and Aldridge while developing the young core of ( Murray , White , Walker , Luka , Poetl, and Keldon)..best of both worlds really ...and if one of the young guys breaks out into a star that would be icing on the cake .. after the two years are up .. derozan , Aldridge , Gay and Patty will be gone and spurs will have the cap space to pursue Giannis in 2021 free agency .. think of these next 2 years as an audition for 2021 free agency .. a lot is riding on the development of the young guys thou

[Kurgan]

Seem like the direction is summer of '21 when the core-ddr,lma,gay,mills,carrol expires

You'd think that'd be the case but don't be surprised when they offer both LMA and Demar extensions.

[DPG21920]

Guess we have to see what the young guns have. Lot of salary room in '21 and if White, Walker and DJ all pan out, you got to pay them. I get that Carroll is 33 but you can't just have a roster of young guys and be competitive. You need a few vets around. Who knows what else is going to happen by the time training camp is over. There could still be trades, maybe another signing or one of the summer league/training camp invites shines.

Sure but we can only evaluate what we see now. We know that making trades to open up cap space is out. That’s for sure. So now it’s just trades left and lets see if SA can do something there to add a real difference maker.

Again, if you are sticking with LMA/DeRozan fine; but those are win now players so you should be pushing as hard as you can to win now without being wildly irresponsible.

If you aren’t willing to do that, then why not get assets for your win now players? At least DeRozan and maybe they still do. I’m not bashing them, just expressing a certain level of disappointment without the full picture being painted yet.

[slick'81]

You'd think that'd be the case but don't be surprised when they offer both LMA and Demar extensions.


No doubt.Id be happy if by then we had tons of space and the ability to try something diff but well probably resign lma and who knows what happens with ddr

[Degoat]

Kinda think the spurs should waive Metu and sign Frank the tank :hungry: that or maybe Metu, Eubanks, and Thomas Robinson fighting for that spot

[Kurgan]

It seems like the plan for the Spurs is to stay competitive ( make the playoffs) these next 2 years with the trio of Gay, Derozan , and Aldridge while developing the young core of ( Murray , White , Walker , Luka , Poetl, and Keldon)..best of both worlds really ...and if one of the young guys breaks out into a star that would be icing on the cake .. after the two years are up .. derozan , Aldridge , Gay and Patty will be gone and spurs will have the cap space to pursue Giannis in 2021 free agency .. think of these next 2 years as an audition for 2021 free agency .. a lot is riding on the development of the young guys thou

:lol thinking Spurs have any shot at Giannis
:lol thinking Spurs will try to poach Bud's players. Pop's too "classy" for that

[FkLA]

Pretty disappointing. I understood SA being on their heels making the Kawhi trade. They built a roster around Kawhi and now have a totally different player in DeRozan.

But to see the West so open and to have a full year to assess where this team is at and what works and doesn’t to make no changes other than adding Carroll?

It’s pretty damn disappointing even if I think SA can still be a solid team next season. But this front office is not doing the team/fans any favors lately and you’d expect more pep in their step after being brutally embarrassed by Kawhi and taking all kinds of sh*t in the media.

IT’s not awful and at least SA didn’t screw up the 2 year time line for no good reason but still. Pick a damn direction and go for it.

Feels like they unfairly are going to put all of this on Dejounte/Lonnie/White.

We're contenders as is unless Nephew joins LeBron. Can still shed some bodyfat by dumping Belli, but either way we're back in it.

[Realdeal1]

:lol thinking Spurs have any shot at Giannis
:lol thinking Spurs will try to poach Bud's players. Pop's too "classy" for that

Im not saying Giannis is coming fool! I’m saying I think the plan is to have cap space for fee agency in 2021.. Giannis just happens to be the big free agent that summer .. why wouldn’t the spurs try to sign Giannis if they have the money fool?

[gambit1990]

as "wide open" as the west is... the spurs still need to make a major trade if they wanna actually compete. a carroll, aminu type player is not going to put this roster close to being over the top.

[gambit1990]

We're contenders as is unless Nephew joins LeBron. Can still shed some bodyfat by dumping Belli, but either way we're back in it.
:td:td

the nba only has around three real contenders a year. spurs are nowhere near that as currently constructed :lol

[Kurgan]

No doubt.Id be happy if by then we had tons of space and the ability to try something diff but well probably resign lma and who knows what happens with ddr

The body language from Demar tells me he doesn't really want to be here(and the feeling is probably mutual from Pop's end). His free throw attempts are significantly down from the previous five years on the Raptors. He's either losing his explosiveness and declining physically(which is weird since he's still only 29). More likely he's protecting his body and not willing to take contact while playing for the Spurs. I wouldn't be surprised if he waives his player option and moves on next year.

[Joseph Kony]

as "wide open" as the west is... the spurs still need to make a major trade if they wanna actually compete. a carroll, aminu type player is not going to put this roster close to being over the top.

all depends on what LAL does. Spurs were pretty close to advancing and who knows how they would have fared against Portland. Having Carroll doesnt put them over the top but gives them a legit rotational player on the wing of which they barely had any last year. plus they're not just getting Carroll - they're getting Murray back and factoring growth from White/Walker and even Poeltl, and hell if one of Samanic/Johnson impresses, spurs arent far behind the other top teams in the West if LMA doesnt fall off a cliff and Derozan builds on last year. If Lakers get Kawhi obviously none of that matters

[Kurgan]

:td:td

the nba only has around three real contenders a year. spurs are nowhere near that as currently constructed :lol

This is true. We lost to a team of playoff virgins who got exposed vs an injured Blazers team. That same Blazers team was destroyed by the Durant-less Warriors.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145495946735828992

[Dverde]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145495946735828992
Do the Knicks know you can sign one year contracts? They have screwed up next offseason with their dumb signings this year.

[ironman2886]

:td:td

the nba only has around three real contenders a year. spurs are nowhere near that as currently constructed :lol
If Kawhi joins Clippers, the league is wide open(KL on the Lakers, it’s over.) You’re overrating the league. Spurs did fine against the tops in the East last season. Houston and GS are vulnerable as hell. Utah is formidable with their recent pickups(but still no super team.) Denver didn’t get better(spurs went 7 against them.) Clippers don’t scare me if they get Kawhi. It’s going to come down to health for any team.

[Kurgan]

If Kawhi joins Clippers, the league is wide open(KL on the Lakers, it’s over.) You’re overrating the league. Spurs did fine against the tops in the East last season. Houston and GS are vulnerable as hell. Utah is formidable with their recent pickups(but still no super team.) Denver didn’t get better(spurs went 7 against them.) Clippers don’t scare me if they get Kawhi. It’s going to come down to health for any team.

Actually, if he resigns with the Raptors, they're a safe bet for a repeat.

[MoSpur02]

Butler will sign with the Heat per Woj

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145498819712421888

[MoSpur02]

LOL at the Lakers missing out on another free agent. Plus it looks like DLo is going to sign with the Timberwolves

[NASpurs]

Butler will sign with the Heat per Woj

There were rumors about Kawhi and Butler playing together. Wonder if Kawhi told him that he's staying with the Raptors or playing with the Lakers.

Makes it seem to me that the Clippers are out of the Kawhi running.

[ironman2886]

Sure. I’ll agree, but I think he’s going to sign with Lakers or clippers. I hope he signs with the Clippers though. I can laugh at the Raptors fans for talking shit about the Spurs. I can laugh at the entitled Lakers fans for being let down with all the hype.

[MoSpur02]

Per Woj, Horford to Philly

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145499428398215168

[FkLA]

Butler to MIA has to to mean Nephew ends up with the Clippers, no? No way they end up empty handed despite all that cap room.

[MoSpur02]

Not sure what Philly is signing him for, but okay

[r0drig0lac]

wild east

[Realdeal1]

I guess butler to Miami means .. clippers are out for kahwi??

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145499428398215168

Celtics fans are loving that.

[NASpurs]

Clippers whiffing on free agents might make them the perfect trade partner for DeMar. :wow

[MoSpur02]

No wonder Kawhi is going to take a couple of days before deciding. He was supposedly going to team up with Butler.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145499428398215168

Wow. Great move for the Sixers...thought they would take a step back with losing Butler but looks like they will still be fighting next year.

[MoSpur02]

Clippers sniffing out on free agents might make them the perfect trade partner for DeMar. :wow

Who would you want from the Clippers?

[Joseph Kony]

Clippers sniffing out on free agents might make them the perfect trade partner for DeMar. :wow

I'd trade Demar for Gallo straight up

[MoSpur02]

Does Wade come out of retirement?

[KDKSpurs24]

Not sure what Philly is signing him for, but okay
For the hell of it

[r0drig0lac]

Simmons - 6'10
Richardson - 6'6
Tobias - 6'8
Big Al - 6'10
Embiid - 7'1

just wow

[FkLA]

I'd trade Demar for Gallo straight up

Gross.

[timtonymanu]

Clippers sniffing out on free agents might make them the perfect trade partner for DeMar. :wow

Don't get my hopes up.

[Degoat]

Surprised Marcus Morris hasn’t signed anywhere yet

[NASpurs]

I'd trade Demar for Gallo straight up

He would fit in like a glove on this team. Fuck man :lol

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Not sure what Philly is signing him for, but okay

Philly spending tons of money but not sure how the players fit together. They got a lot of big lineups in a small ball league and not great outside shooting especially with Reddick gone. You would think there would be interest in Beli from them but not sure if there's a player that makes sense fit/salary wise

[Kurgan]

Butler to MIA has to to mean Nephew ends up with the Clippers, no? No way they end up empty handed despite all that cap room.

Don't be so sure. Happened to the Knicks right?

[Prime BEEF]

Who would you want from the Clippers?

DeRozan/Marco/Bertans for Gallo/Trez

[Kurgan]

Feels like they unfairly are going to put all of this on Dejounte/Lonnie/White.

That was obvious when they used the Murray injury as an excuse to absolve themselves of any criticism during the regular season and playoffs.

[FkLA]

Don't be so sure. Happened to the Knicks right?

Ballmer and West aren't Dolan though, tbf.

[r0drig0lac]

eurodallas mavs with doncic/dragic and porzingis

[NASpurs]

Is there any way we can get in this hot action?

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[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

eurodallas mavs with doncic/dragic and porzingis

Fun team to watch, at least on the offensive end

[Bellboy]

I'd trade Demar for Gallo straight up



:bobo I think you’ve drank too much Gallo already today if you truly believe this

[Ron Swanson]

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Dragic gets more opportunities to shit on the Spurs.

[gambit1990]

horford to philly surprised me. great move by them.

[NickiRasgo]

I'd trade Demar for Gallo straight up

I'll do that too. Just compare what Derozan (against the Nuggets) and Gallinari (against the Warriors) did in the first round.

[gambit1990]

If Kawhi joins Clippers, the league is wide open(KL on the Lakers, it’s over.) You’re overrating the league. Spurs did fine against the tops in the East last season. Houston and GS are vulnerable as hell. Utah is formidable with their recent pickups(but still no super team.) Denver didn’t get better(spurs went 7 against them.) Clippers don’t scare me if they get Kawhi. It’s going to come down to health for any team.
clips took durant's warriors to game 6. would easily beat the spurs with kawhi.

[gambit1990]

lotta buzz on twitter about miami trading for beal / having butler & beal.

[mo7888]

Jordan to nets for 4 years 40M

How do they have the space for him too?

[Ron Swanson]

1145511788265517056

That's how.

[mo7888]

1145511788265517056

That's how.

Wow!

[Degoat]

Depth is good and all but them signing De’Andre Jordan is gonna take minutes from jarret Allen

[Seventyniner]

1145511788265517056

That's how.

Damn. I'm shocked. These guys must be really good friends.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145514087239041024

[spurraider21]

thad young got 3/41. wasn't in MLE range

[Texas_Ranger]

st least one team in Texas will be fun to watch.

[Degoat]

Jazz really going for it all, they definitely got better but I think Mitchell is a little overrated as their #1 star

[Degoat]

Houston really shitting the bed so far lol

[Ron Swanson]

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[Ron Swanson]

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[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itw_JenXA8

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145519015818911744

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145519648722575360

Dragic staying in Miami.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1145520393899388928

[MoSpur02]

Dang New Orleans is looking good

[Ron Swanson]

Nevermind. ace already posted it.

[ace3g]

and if Thanasis Antetokounmpo makes the roster...

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145519113093206016

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1145520393899388928

this is a fun team to watch

[tbdog]

Jordan to nets for 4 years 40M

How do they have the space for him too?

Because I think it has something to do with the trade.

[NASpurs]

and if Thanasis Antetokounmpo makes the roster...

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145519113093206016

Thatll be odd... I mean the Lopez brothers being on the same team

[loveforthegame]

May have an idea where Leonard is going based on what Green reveals tonight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisonSanford/status/1145522423929982976?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145523960177713152

Might still be able to get SJ with what is left of the MLE.

[ironman2886]

clips took durant's warriors to game 6. would easily beat the spurs with kawhi.
Possibly, but like I said the league is wide open. No super team.

[TD 21]

Once again, the stars are aligning for Scumbag. The Bucks are worse, 76ers are worse (obviously still talent laden, but: no closer, limited shooting, poor defensive mobility, questionable bench). As long as he doesn't go to the Clippers, he'll be on the team that's the odds on favorites to win the championship and even they'd have a chance with him (depending on what else they do).

[Ron Swanson]

May have an idea where Leonard is going based on what Green reveals tonight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisonSanford/status/1145522423929982976?

He must have deleted his first tweet. He originally said it was the Clippers.

[gambit1990]

all the player movement so far this offseason (and the past few seasons) has been wild. it did not used to be like this. i like it though... teams should be shooting their shot.

[Kurgan]

Kawhi is likely gone and Green too, by default. Rough for the Raps but they got what they wanted out of the trade. At the end of the day, Raps gave up Defrozen(bad contract, neg impact player), Poetl(limited upside bigman), and Keldon Johnson(Kentucky hypejob) for one year rentals in Kawhi/Danny Green. It resulted in a title so nothing to complain about.

[gambit1990]

really hard for to guess where kawhi will go. not sure how important being a laker is to him.

i remember when they landed lebron it was rumored that he preferred the clips as opposed to joining lebron...

if he's not going to immediately recover from his condition than the lakers seem like the place to be... his legend would grow bringing a title to the clips though...

joining the lakers means automatic rings...

[Degoat]

Not that it matters but it is pretty lame that lebron has such an influence on player movement, it was pointed out that most of the Kluth represented players haven’t signed with anybody because they’re waiting to see what kawhi does

[Kurgan]

all the player movement so far this offseason (and the past few seasons) has been wild. it did not used to be like this. i like it though... teams should be shooting their shot.

This is why no one likes super teams. Everybody gives up and doesn't even bother trying to assemble a competitive team.

[Kurgan]

Not that it matters but it is pretty lame that lebron has such an influence on player movement, it was pointed out that most of the Kluth represented players haven’t signed with anybody because they’re waiting to see what kawhi does

Those Klutch players are fall back option for the Lakers in case they don't land Kawhi. Spurs should definitely be concerned that Murray is represented by them. This is why I'm not as high on Instagram baller as much as White.

[Prime BEEF]

Kawhi is likely gone and Green too, by default. Rough for the Raps but they got what they wanted out of the trade. At the end of the day, Raps gave up Defrozen(bad contract, neg impact player), Poetl(limited upside bigman), and Keldon Johnson(Kentucky hypejob) for one year rentals in Kawhi/Danny Green. It resulted in a title so nothing to complain about.


Yup. Spot on

[Texas_Ranger]

Sources: Nets restricted free agent D'Angelo Russell is a player of strong interest for the Warriors in a potential sign-and-trade. Golden State has searched for avenues on Russell, and is still evaluating next moves.

[Degoat]

How the hell could the warriors get deangelo Russel!?

[loveforthegame]

Looks like Green is gone.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisonSanford/status/1145531390756368385

[mo7888]

How the hell could the warriors get deangelo Russel!?

S&T for KD

[Ron Swanson]

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[r0drig0lac]

russell for the warriors....this league sucks

[cjw]

How the hell could the warriors get deangelo Russel!?

Structure the Durant as a sign and trade? Not sure...

Question is more why? Team is extremely small now.

[timtonymanu]

Nowhere near the ceiling they had with Durant, but should still be a playoff team

[YoungbuckMurray]

This cap system is garbage

[Dejounte]

Nowhere near the ceiling they had with Durant, but should still be a playoff team

Theyre still a contender. Russell is a great fit for them. He could come off the bench.

[timtonymanu]

Theyre still a contender. Russell is a great fit for them. He could come off the bench.

With Klay out the entire season, I see him starting next to Curry

[Degoat]

Sooo they’ve gotta be getting rid of iggy right?

[NASpurs]

They lose Durant but they gain some depth I guess.

[SpurPadre]

Kawhi is likely gone and Green too, by default. Rough for the Raps but they got what they wanted out of the trade. At the end of the day, Raps gave up Defrozen(bad contract, neg impact player), Poetl(limited upside bigman), and Keldon Johnson(Kentucky hypejob) for one year rentals in Kawhi/Danny Green. It resulted in a title so nothing to complain about.

Had Durant and Thompson not been injured though, the Raptors really would've been fucked over.

[Texas_Ranger]

Golden State and Brooklyn have agreed on a sign-and-trade, sending D’Angelo Russell to the Warriors on a four-year, $117M maximum contract, league sources tell ESPN.

[mo7888]

Sooo they’ve gotta be getting rid of iggy right?

It looks that way...aling with Livingston (retiring? )

[NASpurs]

And wasn't there talk about Russell going to the Lakers? Just reading some tea leaves.

[NASpurs]

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[YoungbuckMurray]

Could we get iggy if he’s waived?

[Texas_Ranger]

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could go to the mavs

[NASpurs]

could go to the mavs

Wait, Iggy or Green? I would love to see Green on the Mavs :lol

[Dejounte]

Mill for iggy? Beli for iggy?

[SpurPadre]

Dubs are still contenders, just not unbeatable when healthy.

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

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[Ron Swanson]

Could we get iggy if he’s waived?

With the leftover $3 mil from the MLE? :lmao

[NASpurs]

He just tweeted this :lol

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[Texas_Ranger]

Golden State is trading Andre Iguodala to the Memphis Grizzlies, league source tells ESPN. Warriors are sending a 2024 protected first-round pick in the 2024 (protected 1-4), 2025 (protected 1) and 2026 unprotected.

[Dejounte]

Golden State is trading Andre Iguodala to the Memphis Grizzlies, league source tells ESPN. Warriors are sending a 2024 protected first-round pick in the 2024 (protected 1-4), 2025 (protected 1) and 2026 unprotected.

Source?

[r0drig0lac]

well

[Realdeal1]

Wow IGGY traded to Memphis

[Texas_Ranger]

Source?

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145537783207006208

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145537783207006208

I wonder if he will be bought out? He would be a good fit on our team.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Belli + mills for iggy?

[Ron Swanson]

I wonder if he will be bought out? He would be a good fit on our team.

He'll go to the Lakers. He's a former Pelinka client.

[DC23]

Meanwhile the Lakers still only have 3 players.

[slick'81]

Meanwhile the Lakers still only have 3 players.


Dont forget jr smith

[Payote75]

How come every other team in the league knows how to dump contracts to go get what they want but the Spurs can never do that. That's my one criticism or maybe I just don't get how it works lol. Example warriors want Russell warriors dump iggy. Why can't we dump mills and Bertans or belli and sign cousins to a 2 year deal??? Or any other fit you guys think with in reason.

[Harry Callahan]

Warriors also gave up three 1s. Does that sound prudent?

[J_Paco]

Meanwhile the Lakers still only have 3 players.

But, but, but, they gonna dominate......

Remember that thread that Laker (fairweather) fan started?

[Texas_Ranger]

How come every other team in the league knows how to dump contracts to go get what they want but the Spurs can never do that. That's my one criticism or maybe I just don't get how it works lol. Example warriors want Russell warriors dump iggy. Why can't we dump mills and Bertans or belli and sign cousins to a 2 year deal??? Or any other fit you guys think with in reason.

because we love our picks. We think every 25th pick will become Tony Parker or Manu.

[YoungbuckMurray]

How come every other team in the league knows how to dump contracts to go get what they want but the Spurs can never do that. That's my one criticism or maybe I just don't get how it works lol. Example warriors want Russell warriors dump iggy. Why can't we dump mills and Bertans or belli and sign cousins to a 2 year deal??? Or any other fit you guys think with in reason.

Because the front office doesn’t want to dump them

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs should do everything they can to do a trade with Memphis. Give them Bertans and Mills or something. Adding Carroll, Iguodala and Murray coming off the injury would be a decent offseason

[bluebellmaniac]

Warriors also gave up three 1s. Does that sound prudent?

I think it's just 1 first round pick, but becomes.less protected over time. Is that right?

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Bobby Portis has agreed to a two-year, $31M deal with the Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.

[Eaglenole2002]

I think it's just 1 first round pick, but becomes.less protected over time. Is that right?

Can’t trade away three straight 1s any way, right?

[Ron Swanson]

Free agent Bobby Portis has agreed to a two-year, $31M deal with the Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.

:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

Randle, Taj Gibson and Portis.... damn Knicks, don't sign every superstar.

[NASpurs]

The Lopez bros unite

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Mario Lopez and Luigi Lopez

[Harry Callahan]

I think it's just 1 first round pick, but becomes.less protected over time. Is that right?
Yes. Sounds like one #1 instead of three. That makes more sense given the money handed out to russell.

[Texas_Ranger]

green will announce it here https://www.instagram.com/yahoosportsca/

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BlakeMurphyODC/status/1145549780573151232

[gambit1990]

DG is live now but the signal is shitty. doesn’t seem like he’s gonna announce anything tonight...

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/BlakeMurphyODC/status/1145549780573151232

Return of LDN

[gambit1990]

DG said he’ll hit up the host when he’s somewhere with better signal.

[sasaint]

Randle, Taj Gibson and Portis.... damn Knicks, don't sign every superstar.

At least the Knicks know the right size of player to stockpile.

[BlackAndWhite]

Can we get Iggy

[cutewizard]

wow, GS unloaded Iggy

talk about loyalty shit

[Robz4000]

:lmao Denver maxed out Jamal Murray for $170Mil

[tbdog]

Free agent Bobby Portis has agreed to a two-year, $31M deal with the Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.

The Knicks signed 3 PF's. LOL

[Texas_Ranger]

The Knicks signed 3 PF's. LOL

it fits great with their 5 PG's

[tbdog]

Can we get Iggy

If bought out by Memphis. Probably.

[spurraider21]

:lmao Denver maxed out Jamal Murray for $170Mil
its whatever the owner is willing to pay. denver was already planning to operate above the cap for the foreseeable future, tbh

[Ice009]

Alright, just read through this thread, pretty amazing day of moves so far.

What do you guys think about Kawhi's destination. It's looking like for him it's coming down to either the Lakers or Raptors right now, and I'm getting worried that it might be the Lakers. If he chooses the Lakers, the Spurs should have traded him there in the first place so that they didn't end up with AD too. Fucking shit if that happens. That's really going to piss me off if it goes down like that.

Also, as another poster mentioned, the meeting with Magic (if it really was requested) is interesting from the real estate angle since Kawhi's management group has a real estate background. That looks like it could be a legit angle to get to LA, and get into the real estate game too as well as winning rings on top of that.

I would assume the Clippers are out of it since there doesn't seem to be anyone of note left for him to team up with there? Maybe he was waiting for all this to shake out with the other top free agents to see what team could be the strongest if he signs there. Would have been a super smart move if he's done/doing that right now.

Raptors also look good with some of the other teams thinning out and overpaying players. I think Raptors and Lakers look like they both might have the best chance of winning if he signs with either team. What do you guys think?

[NickiRasgo]

Iggy will probably sign with the Lakers once bought out just to piss the Warriors off.

[NickiRasgo]

Alright, just read through this thread, pretty amazing day of moves so far.

What do you guys think about Kawhi's destination. It's looking like for him it's coming down to either the Lakers or Raptors right now, and I'm getting worried that it might be the Lakers. If he chooses the Lakers, the Spurs should have traded him there in the first place so that they didn't end up with AD too. Fucking shit if that happens.

I would assume the Clippers are out of it since there doesn't seem to be anyone of note left for him to team up with there. Maybe he was waiting for all this to shake out with the other top free agents to see what team could be the strongest if he signs there. Would have been a super smart move if he's done/doing that right now.

Raptors also look good with some of the other teams thinning out and overpaying players. I think Raptors and Lakers look like they both might have the best chance of winning if he signs with either team. What do you guys think?

This is what I said a while ago in another thread.


Imagine not taking the Lakers' pieces for Kawhi then the Lakers was able to get both AD and Kawhi. Sucks to be a Spurs fan now if that happens. :lol


I'm not saying the Lakers' pieces are good but it's actually upsetting that the Lakers was able to use those pieces to get AD then could get Kawhi.
Maybe the Spurs should've granted Kawhi's request and just sent him to the Clippers instead with multiple future picks involve.

What happened/could happen are:
- Sent Kawhi away from Los Angeles and got an underwhelming return from the Raptors
- Raptors won a championship with Kawhi
- Kawhi could sign with the Lakers

Maybe what the Spurs should do and what could happen are:
- Sent him to Los Angeles not named the Lakers but the Clippers with a decent return which includes a player, a 13th and 14th 2018 first round draft picks and future first round draft picks
- Clippers won't win a title but they got Kawhi
- Spurs could work on this upcoming off-season with Tobias Harris being a free agent

I know I'm kinda biased because we know the results already but Pop should've been opened with dealing atleast with the Clippers, it ain't Lakers anyway.

[MannyIsGod]

With so many teams striking out in Free Agency, I wonder if that opens up a market for a DeRozan trade. Not even sure what type of package he could get back from teams who got nothing today.

[anon]

Outside of Utah, Denver and Portland--who are all sure to make the semis--I don't know who is going to make the playoffs in the West this season.

[Ice009]

Didn't RC Buford meet with Iguodala a few off-seasons ago? If he is bought out, I'm hoping RC can get a look in since he made an effort to try and sign him a few off-seasons ago.

[Ron Swanson]

Beverley is staying with the Clippers. 3/40

I think that means Kawhi is going to the Lakers.

[Immortal Spur]

Beverley is staying with the Clippers. 3/40

I think that means Kawhi is going to the Lakers.
Or staying in Toronto... if he goes to the Lakers... the whole narrative that's been playing the last couple years was a fabrication

[DPG21920]

Didn't RC Buford meet with Iguodala a few off-seasons ago? If he is bought out, I'm hoping RC can get a look in since he made an effort to try and sign him a few off-seasons ago.

Hopefully they avoid the buyout market and just trade for him. Offer Memphis Beli/Bertans/? And see if they bite on wanting shooters. They already got the pick from GS so basically it would be Beli + Bertans + a great first round pick for using their trade exception and our guys are expiring too..

[Realdeal1]

Some girl on clan the spurs Instagram live chat said she knows kawhi’s cousin and he said kawhi is going to clippers and will announce after July 4th... lmao take that with a grain of salt thou lmao

[Ron Swanson]

Or staying in Toronto... if he goes to the Lakers... the whole narrative that's been playing the last couple years was a fabrication

That's true. He could stay in Toronto.

[Ron Swanson]

I guess I jumped the gun on my speculation of Kawhi to the Lakers.

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[DPG21920]

Clippers are still in the lead for Kawhi; I dont believe Kawhi wants to play with Bron or in that shit show of a circus - that hasn’t changed IMO.

TOR or Clippers but it’s been Clippers for a long time coming...we shall see.

[tbdog]

Wtf the mavs doing. They have cap space.

[Texas_Ranger]

Wtf the mavs doing. They have cap space.

looks like they really want kelly olynyk.

[Ice009]

The reason I said above about the Lakers and Raptors being the front runners is because I didn't think Kawhi would want to go to the Clippers anymore as there is no other stars of note left that they can pair him with. It also looks like both of those teams (Raptors and Lakers) would be the favourites if Kawhi signs with either of them since other Championship contenders like the Warriors (the prime example) have thinned out a bit.

Would you guys say the Clippers are a legit Championship contender with just Kawhi and no other big name free agent to pair him with? Would Kawhi want to go to the Clippers with that current roster and no other stars there? If so, props to him not joining the Lakers bandwagon. If he does go to the Clippers and he elevates them, then I guess he would make himself a truly legendary player. Don't get me wrong, I think the Clippers would still have a really good team, just don't know if they'd be better than either the Raptors or Lakers with Kawhi. I really hope he does go to the Clippers instead of the Lakers if he does want to go to LA, though.

[MoSpur02]

Reggie Bullock to the Knicks for two years, $21 million

[Texas_Ranger]

Bullock to NY... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[timvp]

Knicks throwing away the cap room they spent years trying to clear :lmao

[DPG21920]

The reason I said above about the Lakers and Raptors being the front runners is because I didn't think Kawhi would want to go to the Clippers anymore as there is no other stars of note left that they can pair him with. It also looks like both of those teams (Raptors and Lakers) would be the favourites if Kawhi signs with either of them since other Championship contenders like the Warriors (the prime example) have thinned out a bit.

Would you guys say the Clippers are a legit Championship contender with just Kawhi and no other big name free agent to pair him with? Would Kawhi want to go to the Clippers with that current roster and no other stars there? If so, props to him not joining the Lakers bandwagon. If he does go to the Clippers and he elevates them, then I guess he would make himself a truly legendary player. Don't get me wrong, I think the Clippers would still have a really good team, just don't know if they'd be better than either the Raptors or Lakers with Kawhi. I really hope he does go to the Clippers instead of the Lakers if he does want to go to LA, though.

I think Kawhi is more of the Jimmy Butler mold where he doesn’t want all these other stars around him. Look at TOR, no other stars like a Bron. If he wanted that, he would have committed to Clips and they would have gotten him one.

Or he would already have chosen LA.

Fact is, Clippers were a playoff team last year with their no-star team. Just adding Kawhi to that alone makes them really, really good. Prob the favorites in the West at least.

Lakers with AD/Bron/Kuz are ok, but they have a TON of work to do still and wouldn’t have a Kawhi-like player they added either.

[Texas_Ranger]

cmon knicks, just sign Carmelo!


my neighbour who is a Knicks fan will probably kill himself... he already has a torn achilles and now this. :lmao

[barakz21]

The reason I said above about the Lakers and Raptors being the front runners is because I didn't think Kawhi would want to go to the Clippers as there is no other stars of note left that they can pair him with. It also looks like both of those teams (Raptors and Lakers) would be the favourites if Kawhi signs with either of them since other Championship contenders like the Warriors have thinned out a bit.

Would you guys say the Clippers are a legit Championship contender with just Kawhi and no other big name free agent to pair him with? Would Kawhi want to go to the Clippers with that current roster and no other stars there? If so, props to him not joining the Lakers bandwagon. If he does go to the Clippers and he elevates them, then I guess he would make himself a truly legendary player. I really hope he does go to the Clippers instead of the Lakers if he does want to go to LA, though.

Personally, I think this version of nephew CAN carry a team on his back on his own. But he’s definitely gonna need another tier 1 star to carry the burden while he’s dealing with injuries(he will be dealing with them, it’s a given plus load management) or maybe 2 other tier 2 or tier 3 stars. If they can carry the team for stretches while he’s doing that, he can let loose for the games that matter aka POs. I think last year’s clipper team would be fine if he’s the sole star. They played hard and played smart. Goes without saying nephew has to be playing the way he did during the POs.

[DPG21920]

Sucks that NY is on that Spurs 2021 plan - just more competition tbh..

[Dejounte]

Richard Jefferson, Trevor Booker, Caron Butler, all have tweeted Kawhi to Lakers.

Its happening yall. Fuck the Lakers

[Robz4000]

Sucks that NY is on that Spurs 2021 plan - just more competition tbh..

Shit, knowing the Knicks they'll prolly throw another $50mil at Mills.

[callo1]

Kawhi is not going to the Lakers, that spin is all coming from pro Laker media. He is either signing a short deal in Toronto or going to the Clips. Nobody outside of Davis wants to play with an aging, grossly overrated Lebron.

[DPG21920]

A little surprised Dallas is keeping that powder dry - really thought they’d land someone with all that money but all the bigger fish seem to be gone. They got Kristaps and Powell under contract but not using their cap space or whiffing badly is curious

[gambit1990]

knicks :lmao

who would you rather be, a CHA fan or a NYK fan? :lol

[Ice009]

I think Kawhi is more of the Jimmy Butler mold where he doesn’t want all these other stars around him. Look at TOR, no other stars like a Bron. If he wanted that, he would have committed to Clips and they would have gotten him one.

Or he would already have chosen LA.

Fact is, Clippers were a playoff team last year with their no-star team. Just adding Kawhi to that alone makes them really, really good. Prob the favorites in the West at least.

Lakers with AD/Bron/Kuz are ok, but they have a TON of work to do still and wouldn’t have a Kawhi-like player they added either.

I'm also thinking of it from the Kawhi load management standpoint. If Kawhi was able to play the whole season at a high level, then yes, I definitely think the Clippers with their current roster would be great with Kawhi, but I just didn't think they would be the favourites for the Championship without adding another tier 1 star or two tier 2 stars to help keep their record afloat if Kawhi is dealing with injury management throughout the season.

I think the main reason the Raptors won the Championship last season is because they had home court in the playoffs against every team except the Bucks. I think the Clippers would need to finish with that type of record to have a chance to get to the finals, so they need a strong enough team to be able to withstand "load management" if that is required from Kawhi during the season. Before last season's playoffs started, I looked at the standings to see if the Raptors would have home court against the Warriors if they made the finals, and once I saw they did, I thought if Kawhi is healthy and plays at his top level, they'd have a chance to beat them with home court. I don't really know for sure, though, since all the Warriors injuries made it too hard to say if the Raptors really could have beaten them if they were healthy. Raptors did have some injuries of their own too as I thought OG would have played a role in helping guard the Warriors players if they were at full strength. I would have liked to have seen how it would have turned out if both teams were at full strength. Plus, we don't know how hobbled Kawhi was, that's another factor that could have played a part.


Personally, I think this version of nephew CAN carry a team on his back on his own. But he’s definitely gonna need another tier 1 star to carry the burden while he’s dealing with injuries(he will be dealing with them, it’s a given plus load management) or maybe 2 other tier 2 or tier 3 stars. If they can carry the team for stretches while he’s doing that, he can let loose for the games that matter aka POs. I think last year’s clipper team would be fine if he’s the sole star. They played hard and played smart. Goes without saying nephew has to be playing the way he did during the POs.

Like I said above, if the Raptors couldn't withstand Kawhi's load management throughout the season and finished with the second best record in the NBA, I'm not sure if they would have made the finals without home court. I could be wrong, but I think that played a big part in it. I agree with what you said about him being able to carry a team on his own back at his current level, but if he has to load manage, can the Clippers maintain a top record throughout the season to have home court in the playoffs.

Anyway, I hope he chooses the Raptors or Clippers.

[DPG21920]

Clippers made the playoffs without Kawhi - they could load manage him as having him for 65 games is better than what they had last year and they were good enough for the playoffs then...

If they had Kawhi 65 games last year? You’d think they would have even more wins, no?

[gambit1990]

i can understand the hate for the lakers... i’ve gotten over that since kobe isn’t playing for them anymore...

hate them or not, lebron + kawhi would be some beautiful ass basketball TBH.

[spurraider21]

a LOT of smoke about him going to the lakers though... hard to ignore

[Ice009]

Clippers made the playoffs without Kawhi - they could load manage him as having him for 65 games is better than what they had last year and they were good enough for the playoffs then...

If they had Kawhi 65 games last year? You’d think they would have even more wins, no?

How many wins did they end up with? You are probably right. They did quite well without him, so yeah, they probably would end up a darn good record if he can at least play 65 games.

So what is everyone's gut reaction here? Where do you guys think he will go?

[spurraider21]

How many wins did they end up with? You are probably right. They did quite well without him, so yeah, they probably would end up a darn good record if he can at least play 65 games.

So what is everyone's gut reaction here? Where do you guys think he will go?
starting to think lakers tbh

[Ice009]

i can understand the hate for the lakers... i’ve gotten over that since kobe isn’t playing for them anymore...

hate them or not, lebron + kawhi would be some beautiful ass basketball TBH.

Well, I'm not a Lebron fan like you are. I think he is a great player, but a total bitch when it comes to winning. He always wants stacked teams if he can do it. Plus I think he sucks in crunch time and never had what Jordan or even Tim Duncan and prime Manu had when the games were on the lines (balls and toughness to take and make the game winning shot). He shied away from it for a long time. He's gotten better with the game on the line, but I always thought he was shaky in those situations. He completely bricked and choked those two shots in the 2013 NBA finals and I feel we let him off the hook. He should only have one ring. It could have changed the whole narrative and history of his career had those last 27 seconds not gone down the way they did. I'd piss me off if Kawhi goes there and he ends up with 5 or 6 rings.

I hate Kobe, but I actually respect him more than Lebron. He didn't really bitch out in any of the battles against the Spurs. He also didn't have super stacked teams like Lebron is always trying to get/do.

[DPG21920]

I know there is a lot of smoke about Lakers, but it doesn’t make sense knowing what we know about Kawhi. It’s been Clippers for nearly 2 years and don’t think anything is changed. I also think if it’s not Clippers then somehow TOR managed to do unthinkable and convinced Dennis to stay.

Of course it’s hard to just ignore all the Lakers rumors coming from everywhere and I think Kawhi’s team is talking to Lakers; but I don’t get the sense that he’s that jazzed about joining Bron * Shrugs *

[spurraider21]

I know there is a lot of smoke about Lakers, but it doesn’t make sense knowing what we know about Kawhi. It’s been Clippers for nearly 2 years and don’t think anything is changed. I also think if it’s not Clippers then somehow TOR managed to do unthinkable and convinced Dennis to stay.

Of course it’s hard to just ignore all the Lakers rumors coming from everywhere and I think Kawhi’s team is talking to Lakers; but I don’t get the sense that he’s that jazzed about joining Bron * Shrugs *
i agree that clips seem more logical

[Ice009]

I know there is a lot of smoke about Lakers, but it doesn’t make sense knowing what we know about Kawhi. It’s been Clippers for nearly 2 years and don’t think anything is changed. I also think if it’s not Clippers then somehow TOR managed to do unthinkable and convinced Dennis to stay.

Of course it’s hard to just ignore all the Lakers rumors coming from everywhere and I think Kawhi’s team is talking to Lakers; but I don’t get the sense that he’s that jazzed about joining Bron * Shrugs *

Hopefully what you say is right, but yeah, there is so much rumours coming from everywhere like you said, or at the very least, the media, fans and even ex-players seem to all be trying to push him there if those rumours aren't legit.

Has it actually been reported that he's going to take a few days to decide?

[DPG21920]

i agree that clips seem more logical

And it’s not just logic IMO. There has been stuff out there (whether people choose to believe it or not) that Clippers and Kawhi’s camp have been in constant communication for quite a while. Even this year while winning in TOR.

I don’t think it’s a lock as evidenced by it not being done yet, but I don’t know what changed from the past 2 years other than TOR shocking the world and winning a title.

Maybe getting AD and Lakers getting that 3rd max spot? Maybe that is enough to entice Kawhi to team up with other stars where before just playing with Bron was not appealing? Not sure.

[DPG21920]

Hopefully what you say is right, but yeah, there is so much rumours coming from everywhere like you said, or at the very least, the media, fans and even ex-players seem to all be trying to push him there if those rumours aren't legit.

Has it actually been reported that he's going to take a few days to decide?


Yeah - Haynes from Yahoo said that.

[Ice009]

Crap. So we're going to have to wait a few days. Oh well, as I said, I hope it's either the Raptors or Clippers. Interesting take about him maybe changing him mind with the Lakers getting AD. You might be right that he had no interest in just teaming up with Lebron, and it was just the Clippers all the way, but maybe with the Lakers getting AD and opening up a 3rd max slot, that may have very well made him and his uncle pause a bit and now seriously consider the Lakers.

[DPG21920]

Crap. So we're going to have to wait a few days. Oh well, as I said, I hope it's either the Raptors or Clippers. Interesting take about him maybe changing him mind with the Lakers getting AD. You might be right that he had no interest in just teaming up with Lebron, and it was just the Clippers all the way, but maybe with the Lakers getting AD and opening up a 3rd max slot, that may have very well made him and his uncle pause a bit and now seriously consider the Lakers.

I think that is the situation. Lakers are a threat but I dont think they are THE threat to Clippers. They might be if LA is still the end all be all (which I think it is). But I feel TOR is really the threat and if that is the case I still think Clippers get him.

[Ice009]

I think that is the situation. Lakers are a threat but I dont think they are THE threat to Clippers. They might be if LA is still the end all be all (which I think it is). But I feel TOR is really the threat and if that is the case I still think Clippers get him.

Cool. I hope you are right. I'd feel better about the Spurs being forced to trade him if he ends up at the Clippers.

He really loves dragging things out, though, as it's going to be a shitty few days waiting to see where he ends up.

[DPG21920]

I also think much of this is Uncle Dennis/His Agent doing everyone a courtesy as well. Lakers don’t want to be embarrassed like they were with LMA, PG, etc...even with AD they have a lot riding. Dennis and Co want Kawhi in LA but don’t want burned bridges and are trying to build their clientele beyond just Kawhi.

Getting in good with everyone is a way to help that...Just pure speculation on my side, but a small thing.

[barakz21]

I'm also thinking of it from the Kawhi load management standpoint. If Kawhi was able to play the whole season at a high level, then yes, I definitely think the Clippers with their current roster would be great with Kawhi, but I just didn't think they would be the favourites for the Championship without adding another tier 1 star or two tier 2 stars to help keep their record afloat if Kawhi is dealing with injury management throughout the season.

I think the main reason the Raptors won the Championship last season is because they had home court in the playoffs against every team except the Bucks. I think the Clippers would need to finish with that type of record to have a chance to get to the finals, so they need a strong enough team to be able to withstand "load management" if that is required from Kawhi during the season. Before last season's playoffs started, I looked at the standings to see if the Raptors would have home court against the Warriors if they made the finals, and once I saw they did, I thought if Kawhi is healthy and plays at his top level, they'd have a chance to beat them with home court. I don't really know for sure, though, since all the Warriors injuries made it too hard to say if the Raptors really could have beaten them if they were healthy. Raptors did have some injuries of their own too as I thought OG would have played a role in helping guard the Warriors players if they were at full strength. I would have liked to have seen how it would have turned out if both teams were at full strength. Plus, we don't know how hobbled Kawhi was, that's another factor that could have played a part.



Like I said above, if the Raptors couldn't withstand Kawhi's load management throughout the season and finished with the second best record in the NBA, I'm not sure if they would have made the finals without home court. I could be wrong, but I think that played a big part in it. I agree with what you said about him being able to carry a team on his own back at his current level, but if he has to load manage, can the Clippers maintain a top record throughout the season to have home court in the playoffs.

Anyway, I hope he chooses the Raptors or Clippers.

The raptors did survive, given they managed to get 2nd seed even with his load management. The way both rosters were constructed last year, the raptors would’ve handled it better than the clips. That being said, the internal growth and improvement also needs to get factored in. If clips got Kawhi this year and their youngsters improve AND get another guy to help carry the load then then getting 3rd or 4th seed wouldn’t be too farfetched. Then again, with the clips.. it’s a lot more ifs compared to the raptors. I do hope that he stays with the raps or go to the clippers should he leave.

[tbdog]

Lakers obviously feel like they are in for a really good shot. They have 32mil to spend and all good free agents are gone.

[slick'81]

Lakers obviously feel like they are in for a really good shot. They have 32mil to spend and all good free agents are gone.


Theyll probably get kawhi,iggy and jr smith

[anon]

Lakers obviously feel like they are in for a really good shot. They have 32mil to spend and all good free agents are gone.
Or Kawhi played them for fools. By stalling and letting the market take all the net positive roleplayers off the board, he just ensured LeBron and AD would have the toughest time making the finals. Kawhi killed LeBron's chances at a ring even before the regular season began. That's some Sun Tzu wisdom Pop would spout in his film sessions.

[anon]

The core of the Clippers pitch was using their two max slots to pair Kawhi with another star, since Kawhi wants championships but also needs to load manage. Well, there are no longer any stars available. Woj hinted a Butler and Kawhi duo was the ideal scenario planned by Jerry West. Butler is now locked into Miami. Clips are out of the running, leaving only one outcome for Kawhi.

[spurraider21]

Cory Joseph got 3/37 from the Kings

sacto is the worst managed team in the league besides New York tbh. they also gave Dedmon 3/41, gave Harrison Barnes 4/85, and Ariza got 2/25. why they're paying vets like ariza/joseph/dedmon those contracts when they werent even a playoff team is baffling. tying up cap space on guys like that.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Giannis and Bud in 2021 dream is on :smokin

[Ice009]

Lakers obviously feel like they are in for a really good shot. They have 32mil to spend and all good free agents are gone.

That's actually a pretty good point. If they didn't think they have a very, very good chance to get him, wouldn't they have used the money already? What other reason/s would they have to hold onto it? The other thing is, is if this announcement is supposed to be in a few days, that kind of lines up with July 4th, and that sounds like a Lebron type of spectacle to me.


Cory Joseph got 3/37 from the Kings

sacto is the worst managed team in the league besides New York tbh. they also gave Dedmon 3/41, gave Harrison Barnes 4/85, and Ariza got 2/25. why they're paying vets like ariza/joseph/dedmon those contracts when they werent even a playoff team is baffling. tying up cap space on guys like that.

Maybe the feel adding these vets to their youth you push them over the top into a well balanced playoff team? I actually like what they've done. I don't like the Harrison Barnes contract, but Dedmon and Ariza are good players and the length on their contracts isn't too bad at all. Not sure why the signed Cory Joseph for, though as they already have point guards that project to get a lot of court time. Interesting that he ends up in California as he's pretty good friends with Kawhi.

[FlAVaK]

That's actually a pretty good point. If they didn't think they have a very, very good chance to get him, wouldn't they have used the money already?

CIA Kawhi. By holding out and giving the Lakers hope he destroys their chances to sign any other relevant FA, until he signs with the Clippers finally... weaken the local rival.

/bluefont

[Ice009]

That's possible too, but looking at the list of free agents left, do you guys really think the Lakers are holding onto that money to give to guys like Marcus Morris, Demarcus Cousins, Seth Curry etc.? Split all that money between those 3 guys? Maybe they are planning on doing that if they miss out on kawhi, sign all those guys for one year contracts, but I am starting to think they're holding onto that money because it's for Kawhi.

I really hope Kawhi is playing them, though. I really do.

[tbdog]

It's probably worth holding out for Leonard. I mean, we did many times for Kidd, J O'Neal, LMA. Knicks just gutted their roster for Irving and Durant and got zip. Difference is, Knicks are a gutted team. LeBron wants to win now.

[kobyz]

Depth is good and all but them signing De’Andre Jordan is gonna take minutes from jarret Allen

They bring him for the Embiid matchup, Allen couldn't handle him at all...

[tbdog]

No news on Wes Mathews.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent guard Ish Smith has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with the Washington Wizards, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Ish trying to play for all the teams.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Free agent guard Ish Smith has agreed to a two-year, $12M deal with the Washington Wizards, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Ish trying to play for all the teams.

Dude always finds a place, some minutes and a decent contract. He must have one of the best money earned to actual talent ratios ever. Good for him.

[Texas_Ranger]

Chicago has reached agreement on a sign-and-trade with Washington for guard Tomas Satoransky, league sources tell ESPN. Bulls are signing Satoransky to a three-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

[Ocotillo]

I would like to see the Spurs go ahead and see if they can get a 2020 lottery team to take the rights to Milutinov in exchange for a second rounder. Drives me nuts if they end up getting nothing for him. There has to be a team that could use a old school big on the roster and that second round pick might become an asset down the road for the Spurs

[Texas_Ranger]

Some good news for dallas

'NBA Live 20': Dallas Mavericks Star Luka Doncic Will Be The Cover Athlete, According To Sources

[FkLA]

Derrick Whites son Jamal Murray getting 5 yrs, $170 million :lmao

He's the definition of a fake star, tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

Derrick Whites son Jamal Murray getting 5 yrs, $170 million :lmao

He's the definition of a fake star, tbh.

They are like utah. Look solid on paper and even during the season and then dont do shit in the playoffs.

[RD2191]

Derrick Whites son Jamal Murray getting 5 yrs, $170 million :lmao

He's the definition of a fake star, tbh.

That faggot was insufferable in the playoffs. Hopefully D White and company kick his ass this coming season.

[pad300]

Warriors also gave up three 1s. Does that sound prudent?

From the wording, I'm thinking that's 1 first round pick, with assorted protections.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent Wayne Ellington has agreed to a two-year, $16M deal with the New York Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN.

Stephen A gonna kill himself

[pad300]

Chicago has reached agreement on a sign-and-trade with Washington for guard Tomas Satoransky, league sources tell ESPN. Bulls are signing Satoransky to a three-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

Any details on the trade part? If the value is right, I would like to have been in on that action for the Spurs...

[Texas_Ranger]

Any details on the trade part? If the value is right, I would like to have been in on that action for the Spurs...

Tomas Satoransky's three-year deal with the Bulls: $30M, league sources tell ESPN.

Sources: Washington gets some pick value in sign-and-trade: Chicago eliminates protections on 2023 second-round pick to Washington; Wizards get better of Memphis and Chicago's 2020 second-round pick; Wiz get right to swap Lakers 2022 second w/ better of Chi/Det. 2022 seconds.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27095783/sources-bulls-get-satoransky-sign-trade

[FkLA]

That faggot was insufferable in the playoffs. Hopefully D White and company kick his ass this coming season.

Remember when that faggot got all hyped over a missed dunk? Pushing, yelling, and flexing at Gary Harris. Or when his midget ass tried to step up to Poetl. :lol

Probably my new least favorite player, tbh.

[pad300]

Tomas Satoransky's three-year deal with the Bulls: $30M, league sources tell ESPN.

Sources: Washington gets some pick value in sign-and-trade: Chicago eliminates protections on 2023 second-round pick to Washington; Wizards get better of Memphis and Chicago's 2020 second-round pick; Wiz get right to swap Lakers 2022 second w/ better of Chi/Det. 2022 seconds.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27095783/sources-bulls-get-satoransky-sign-trade

That's pretty cheap, 1 second, protections eliminated on another second, and a possibility of swapping a 3ed second...

And the Sato contract is rumoured to be partially guaranteed in the 3ed year. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/07/bulls-to-acquire-tomas-satoransky-via-sign-and-trade.html .

If the partial 3ed year isn't bullshit, at that price I think we could/should have competed: Value wise Beli + Forbes for Sato would have made me pretty happy, and looks competitive.

[Texas_Ranger]

Free agent guard Michael Carter-Williams has agreed to a one-year deal to return to the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.

[pad300]

Moving forwards, as of 1 July 2019, the Spurs Roster looks like:

Bigs - LMA, Poetl
Wings (of assorted tweener-ness) :
***** PF/SF Carroll, Bertans, Gay, Samanic, Metu,
***** SG/SF Demar, Beli, Walker, Johnson
PG/small (again assorted Tweener-ness) :
***** PG/SG Murray, White
***** Small SG's Mills, Forbes

If I was the FO, I would be looking for a 3ed actual big man with the remainder of the MLE. This implies that we will be looking for some sort of trade to make a roster spot.

[SpursRussia]

I’d say keep the remaining MLE for now and use it for buyout market, when every other team will have only a min to operate we will be able to mke a better offer and players at the buyout tend to be better, when tanking teams release veterans seeking playoff games.

Obly problem is lack of knowledge of the system, but talent wins every time for me

[duncan2150]

Moving forwards, as of 1 July 2019, the Spurs Roster looks like:

Bigs - LMA, Poetl
Wings (of assorted tweener-ness) :
***** PF/SF Carroll, Bertans, Gay, Samanic, Metu,
***** SG/SF Demar, Beli, Walker, Johnson
PG/small (again assorted Tweener-ness) :
***** PG/SG Murray, White
***** Small SG's Mills, Forbes

If I was the FO, I would be looking for a 3ed actual big man with the remainder of the MLE. This implies that we will be looking for some sort of trade to make a roster spot.

I hope so, they could also cut a guy like metu or even Beli with the addition of Caroll.

[Texas_Ranger]

Guard Seth Curry has reached an agreement with Dallas

[MoSpur02]

Per Woj, Seth Curry signs with Dallas. LOL at the Lakers.

[BacktoBasics]

I would have been somewhat interested in a sign and trade for Favors but looks like NO is getting that done.

[Texas_Ranger]

Curry deal: Four years, $32M, agent Alex Saratsis tells ESPN.