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ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 12:51 PM
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Dude retweeted this too. Do you stand with them?
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tholdren
11-01-2020, 08:32 PM
Dude retweeted this too. Do you stand with them?
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Won
ElNono
11-01-2020, 08:43 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 08:52 PM
No masks
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 08:59 PM
Dead.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 09:01 PM
Dead.
No masknthe whole time. At risk travel weekly. Living life.
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 09:03 PM
Norway.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 09:10 PM
Norway.
Counts covid deaths like finland. Higjer flu death rate the year before. Next
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 09:14 PM
Wrong.
DarrinS
11-01-2020, 09:23 PM
Sweden in good shape.
ElNono
11-01-2020, 09:33 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 09:43 PM
Sweden in good shape.Why so much worse than its neighbors, Karrin?
tholdren
11-01-2020, 10:19 PM
Wrong.
LoloooIloolppoolll
No, that is correct
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 10:20 PM
Wrong.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 10:22 PM
Wrong.
Nope sorry
No masks
You thought Texas hospitals were over capacity twice
Low
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 10:24 PM
They were.
RGV and El Paso.
f:lolldren not smart.
Old and angry and scared and bingo.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 10:25 PM
They were.
RGV and El Paso.
f:lolldren not smart.
Old and angry and scared and bingo.
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ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 10:27 PM
:lol I broke him again.
Fragile f:lolldren.
tholdren
11-11-2020, 06:33 PM
Sweden in good shape.
Ef-man
11-11-2020, 08:05 PM
Foldren folds so easily.
ElNono
11-11-2020, 09:06 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
JamStone
11-13-2020, 02:22 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-admitted-coronavirus-immunity-predictions-140034959.html?guccounter=2
the latest figures show Sweden is experiencing higher levels of infections, hospitalizations and deaths than its neighbours, relative to its population size, the Financial Times reported on Thursday.
Sweden recorded 4,658 new coronavirus cases on Thursday, according to official figures reported by Reuters, with new daily cases having surged in recent weeks.
Hospitalizations have also increased dramatically, with over 1000 patients with COVID-19 being treated in hospitals, a 60% increase from last week. The figures were reported by state broadcaster STV and cited by the Guardian.
The death rate from coronavirus in Sweden is now one of the highest in the world when adjusted for population size.
tholdren
11-13-2020, 11:19 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-admitted-coronavirus-immunity-predictions-140034959.html?guccounter=2
Lololoooooooloolloplol
ElNono
11-14-2020, 12:40 AM
Lololoooooooloolloplol
Foldren folds
tholdren
11-14-2020, 01:33 PM
Swedens mortality rate is completely in line with previous years.
Years that have seen more death 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013.
Years that have seen less 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016,......
Who would have thought?
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 01:56 PM
Swedens mortality rate is completely in line with previous years.
Years that have seen more death 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013.
Years that have seen less 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016,......
Who would have thought?No link. No proof.
Gossip.
Who would've thought?
tholdren
11-14-2020, 04:32 PM
No link. No proof.
Gossip.
Who would've thought?
Proof is always where I linked you.
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 04:37 PM
Proof is always where I linked you.No link.
No math.
You lose.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 04:46 PM
No link.
No math.
You lose.
Link in the thread. I called it 9 months ago. Just like the ifr. Enjoy hiding and pretending masks work.
Scared and ignorant
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 04:48 PM
Link in the thread.:lmao lies
If you have a link, post it.
If you don't, fold like you always do.
You don't travel anywhere.
Enjoy being wrong forever.
ElNono
11-14-2020, 04:48 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 05:10 PM
Link in the thread. I called it 9 months ago. Just like the ifr. Enjoy hiding and pretending masks work.
Scared and ignorant
Wear a mask coronavirusbro
tholdren
11-14-2020, 05:11 PM
In Florida now
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 05:12 PM
Foldren is afraid of El Paso, math, and links.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 05:14 PM
These guys so triggered I was right and they fell for wearing masks. Derp
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 05:15 PM
Foldren is folding mad and posting.
These guys so triggered I was right and they fell for wearing masks. Derp
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 06:11 PM
In Florida nowYou never left your bunker.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 06:17 PM
You never left your bunker.
Sweden won. No lockdown. All.countries going to have minimal excess deaths. Longitudinal study will prove covid not dangerous
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Sweden won. No lockdown. All.countries going to have minimal excess deaths. Longitudinal study will prove covid not dangerous
Foldren is folding mad and posting.
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 06:20 PM
Sweden won. Norway and Finland won. Sweden is copying them now.
You folded and you're hiding in your Florida bunker you never left.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 06:39 PM
Norway and Finland won. Sweden is copying them now.
You folded and you're hiding in your Florida bunker you never left.
No they aren't. Sweden still overcounting deaths. Finland requires covid to be a death FROM covid to count as a covid death.
You lie or are ignorant. Choose 1
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 06:45 PM
Wrong. Sweden lost.
:lmao no one at the bar will talk to f:lolldren
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:28 PM
No they aren't. Sweden still overcounting deaths. Finland requires covid to be a death FROM covid to count as a covid death.
You lie or are ignorant. Choose 1
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 08:29 PM
Foldren, the chosen folder, folds without math, links or El Paso.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:31 PM
Foldren, the chosen folder, folds without math, links or El Paso.
Elf man too low iq.to find data
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:32 PM
Foldren, the chosen folder, folds without math, links or El Paso.
Never left Florida.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:33 PM
Never left Florida.
Here now.
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:33 PM
Here now.You've always been there.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:35 PM
You've always been there.
Nope. Keep lying
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:38 PM
You've always been there.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:45 PM
No they aren't. Sweden still overcounting deaths. Finland requires covid to be a death FROM covid to count as a covid death.
You lie or are ignorant. Choose 1
ChumpDumper
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:46 PM
Sweden lost.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:51 PM
Holy shit I'm getting sick of the "Sweden argument" from the anti-lockdown crowd on the shithole known as twitter. Conservative media is also on the Sweden bandwagon. Let's take it apart.
"Sweden proves lockdowns don't really work, and they haven't torpedoed their economy based on faulty models and wrong assumptions about the virus's mortality rate."
Sweden is not "business as usual."
They can't have events with more than 50 people. School closures for over 16. And even though their stay-at-home orders aren't as stringent as everyone else's, the Swedish have voluntary stayed-at-home. Here's their movement data.
https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-04-11_SE_Mobility_Report_en.pdf
Key figure here is the -41% in retail and recreation. That is only 7 percentage points lower than California's https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-04-11_US_California_Mobility_Report_en.pdf.
What this means is that Sweden's lax measures aren't doing much to prop up the hardest hit economic sectors (your bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters) because people aren't too keen on going to those right now. So "the Swedish Model" isn't going to help with that if we stupidly try to apply it here.
"We should apply the Swedish model to save the economy, as they've proven you can have an open economy and mitigate spread."
Sweden hasn't "mitigated" the spread at all. Let's return to that above movement data from them and California. California is socially distancing a bit more, but given the exponential nature of epidemic growth, that 41% vs. 48% figure in retail/recreation movement and 24% vs, 40% in workplace movement has proven huge. California has 4 times the population of Sweden, 5 times the population density, more multi-person homes (Sweden has one of the highest rates of single person homes in Europe), more international travel, and CA's death rate is 37 per million vs. Sweden's 192 million.
"Other Euro countries have locked down and are doing worse than Sweden."
Countries like the Netherlands and Belgium have not locked down, with the former going for the herd immunity strategy. Not working out too well for them. And many of those other hard hit regions in Europe are suffering because they were late to lockdown. And the UK went for the herd immunity strategy early on and is on pace to become the hardest hit country in Europe.
That said, I won't argue if the Swedish strategy works for Sweden. But the supporters of that strategy are making the apples to oranges comparison fallacy. Sweden's population density is 57 people per sq mile. That's lower than Utah's, a sparse state. 50 percent of their working population already worked from home before this. They have more single person households. I would assume the average Swede is in better physical shape than the average American. They have no cities with over 1 million people. They have some things in their favor that they can try this strategy that many US regions don't. It might work on a very region specific basis, but not countrywide. And it has no hope in hell of working in densely populated areas.
This guy dumb as bricks
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:51 PM
He's right.
You're wrong.
You're always wrong.
And alone.
In a bar.
Sad.
tholdren
11-14-2020, 08:58 PM
He's right.
You're wrong.
You're always wrong.
And alone.
In a bar.
Sad.
Denmark day 9 of vax protests. Lol cry
ChumpDumper
11-14-2020, 08:59 PM
Denmark day 9 of vax protests. Lol cry:lmao f:lolldren can't even talk about Sweden anymore.
I win.
No takesies backsies!
tholdren
11-14-2020, 09:01 PM
We are going to get to see what happens in that case in Texas. Case count has doubled in two weeks, another two weeks will see it double again. About that time we will see what happens to a US health system when demand exceeds capacity.
Lolololol
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 09:06 PM
Foldren keeps folding.
Nope. Keep lying
tholdren
11-14-2020, 09:08 PM
What about Denmark and Norway?
Denmark has been under 5 deaths since mid-May.
Norway has been under 5 deaths since April.
THAT is success.
Denmark protesting for 9 days. Loloololooll
No vax
Bwahahahahahhahahahahahahah
tholdren
11-14-2020, 09:12 PM
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities
Oh my
Ef-man
11-14-2020, 09:23 PM
Foldren with CDC link to self-fold.
Oh my
tholdren
11-15-2020, 03:05 PM
Winning
The strategy, however, will not change.
"No, we will keep on this path," Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told Reuters in a telephone interview on Friday. "This is how we work in Sweden. We have big understanding for this and a huge adherence to the rules."
In contrast to many other countries, Sweden has kept schools, restaurants and other businesses open throughout the pandemic. Instead, it has focused on voluntary measures aimed at promoting social distancing and good hygiene, such as working from home if possible, avoiding public transport and crowded indoor activities
ElNono
11-15-2020, 04:24 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-15-2020, 07:37 PM
Winning
The strategy, however, will not change.
"No, we will keep on this path," Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told Reuters in a telephone interview on Friday. "This is how we work in Sweden. We have big understanding for this and a huge adherence to the rules."
In contrast to many other countries, Sweden has kept schools, restaurants and other businesses open throughout the pandemic. Instead, it has focused on voluntary measures aimed at promoting social distancing and good hygiene, such as working from home if possible, avoiding public transport and crowded indoor activities
Sweden about to hit median death this year over past 10. Completely within normal range of all.cause fatalities
Another win for me.
Another fail for ihme models that have scared WrongdomGuy shitless for 8 months.
Sucks to be you
Ef-man
11-15-2020, 07:40 PM
Folding, folding, folding, that is all you do foldren.
Provide math, links, or go to El Paso.
Sweden about to hit median death this year over past 10. Completely within normal range of all.cause fatalities
Another win for me.
Another fail for ihme models that have scared WrongdomGuy shitless for 8 months.
Sucks to be you
tholdren
11-15-2020, 07:42 PM
Sweden about to hit median death this year over past 10. Completely within normal range of all.cause fatalities
Another win for me.
Another fail for ihme models that have scared WrongdomGuy shitless for 8 months.
Sucks to be you
Ef-man
11-15-2020, 07:43 PM
Quoting your folds, again?
i fold, again
tholdren
11-15-2020, 07:49 PM
Sweden about to hit median death this year over past 10. Completely within normal range of all.cause fatalities
Another win for me.
Another fail for ihme models that have scared WrongdomGuy shitless for 8 months.
Sucks to be you
Ef-man
11-15-2020, 07:50 PM
Foldren is coming to terms.
i foldren have trouble with math, using links, and am scared of going to El Paso because of covid, so i fold, again.
tholdren
11-15-2020, 08:52 PM
Sweden about to hit median death this year over past 10. Completely within normal range of all.cause fatalities
Another win for me.
Another fail for ihme models that have scared WrongdomGuy shitless for 8 months.
Sucks to be you
Denmark!!
ChumpDumper
11-15-2020, 08:54 PM
:lmao f:lolldren still afraid of us.
tholdren
11-15-2020, 08:55 PM
:lmao f:lolldren still afraid of us.
Denmark
Ef-man
11-15-2020, 08:55 PM
Foldren, taking solace in his folding. Sad.
Denmark is not math, a link, nor near El Paso.
Denmark!!
ChumpDumper
11-15-2020, 09:01 PM
DenmarkYou're afraid of Denmark too.
tholdren
11-15-2020, 09:10 PM
You're afraid of Denmark too.
Chumpdump crying and hiding in fear
ChumpDumper
11-15-2020, 09:11 PM
Chumpdump crying and hiding in fear:lol you never left Florida.
Why did you lie about Australia?
tholdren
11-15-2020, 09:27 PM
:lol you never left Florida.
Why did you lie about Australia?
Drove to New Orleans
ChumpDumper
11-15-2020, 09:30 PM
Drove to New OrleansWhy did you lie about Australia?
tholdren
11-15-2020, 09:31 PM
Why did you lie about Australia?
I didn't. Why did you lie about all cause fatalities in Sweden being worst ever
Ef-man
11-15-2020, 09:35 PM
Why do you fold about math, links, and El Paso?
I didn't. Why did you lie about all cause fatalities in Sweden being worst ever
ChumpDumper
11-15-2020, 09:36 PM
I didn't. Of course you lied about it.
Why?
TimDunkem
11-15-2020, 10:16 PM
:lol you never left Florida.
Why did you lie about Australia?
Folden is a Florida Man? That explains a lot. :lmao
ElNono
11-16-2020, 02:35 PM
Sweden has admitted its coronavirus immunity predictions were wrong as cases soar across the country
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-herd-immunity-second-wave-coronavirus-cases-hospitalisations-surge-2020-11
1328397424591835144
lmao f:lolldren wrong about Sweden, per par
InRareForm
11-16-2020, 02:36 PM
Got cocky
ChumpDumper
11-16-2020, 03:19 PM
Sweden has admitted its coronavirus immunity predictions were wrong as cases soar across the country
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-herd-immunity-second-wave-coronavirus-cases-hospitalisations-surge-2020-11
1328397424591835144
lmao f:lolldren wrong about Sweden, per parWh:lol:lolpsie!
RandomGuy
11-16-2020, 03:36 PM
Faster herd immunity and less economic destruction. We'll see.
oops.
RandomGuy
11-16-2020, 03:38 PM
Lockdown caused more deaths than it saved, a Nobel laureate scientist said on Saturday, as he predicted the UK would emerge from Covid-19 within weeks.
Michael Levitt, a Stanford University professor who correctly predicted the initial trajectory of the pandemic, sent messages to Professor Neil Ferguson in March telling the influential government advisor he had over-estimated the potential death toll by "10 or 12 times".
The Imperial College professor's modelling, a major factor in the Government's apparent abandoning of a so-called herd-immunity policy, was part of an unnecessary "panic virus" which spread among global political leaders, Prof Levitt now tells the Telegraph.
Looking like Levitt's "get herd immunity at 30%" is out the window.
RandomGuy
11-16-2020, 03:45 PM
Sweden, where COVID-19 deaths are declining overall
That said, Sweden has fewer deaths per capita during the full length of the pandemic than its fellow European countries like the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Belgium, and France, which instituted stricter lockdowns
oops.
Deaths per million:
sweden 600
france 625
Germany: 125
belgium: 1,255.74
UK:775
USA 746
Finland: 66
Norway: 55
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
Seems like the two neighboring peer countries seem to have fared a lot better.
RandomGuy
11-16-2020, 03:51 PM
So setting aside your comically bad ignorance of basic geography, let's compare to peers, so that we can actually do some critical thinking for your lazy ass.
Sweden 10 M people
Finland 5.53M
Norway 5.4M
Since you are too fucking stupid to understand how to compare things, let me explain the math. I'll try to use small words.
Total cases really are practically meaningless.
What is more important is rate of infection per million people.
I will even do the math for you.
Norway:
7275/5.4M =1347
187/5.4M =34
Finland
4170/5.3M= 786
149/5.3M =28
Sweden
16755/10M= 1676
2021/10M= 202
Sweden has a higher infection rate, and its fatality rate is more than SIX TIMES higher than it's peers.
soooo, now Swedens neighbors have doubled their rates, and sweden's has tripled.
Sweden's is now 10 times that of its peer countries.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 07:13 PM
soooo, now Swedens neighbors have doubled their rates, and sweden's has tripled.
Sweden's is now 10 times that of its peer countries.
All cause fatalities in Sweden in line with average.
The end
ElNono
11-16-2020, 07:27 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 07:35 PM
All cause fatalities in Sweden in line with average.
The end
ElNono
11-16-2020, 07:50 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-16-2020, 08:00 PM
All cause fatalities in Sweden in line with average.
The end
Elwrongwrong
ElNono
11-16-2020, 08:05 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
RandomGuy
11-17-2020, 08:13 AM
All cause fatalities in Sweden in line with average.
The end
"I either don't understand the data, or am lying about it"
Totals for the year well above average.
Current RATE is in line with average.
It's almost as if your dumb ass doesn't understand the difference, or doesn't care and is lying about it.
Which is it lying or stupid? I think the latter, based on your constant fuck ups here. :lol
Foldren wrong. Provably. Again.
https://emanuelkarlsten.se/number-of-deaths-in-sweden-during-the-pandemic-compared-to-previous-years-mortality/
ChumpDumper
11-17-2020, 01:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em_eOgvVcAAvBzE?format=jpg&name=large
Ef-man
11-17-2020, 01:56 PM
Sweden folded tighter than Foldren’s sphincter when Foldren contemplated a visit to El Paso.
:tu
"I either don't understand the data, or am lying about it"
Totals for the year well above average.
Current RATE is in line with average.
It's almost as if your dumb ass doesn't understand the difference, or doesn't care and is lying about it.
Which is it lying or stupid? I think the latter, based on your constant fuck ups here. :lol
Foldren wrong. Provably. Again.
https://emanuelkarlsten.se/number-of-deaths-in-sweden-during-the-pandemic-compared-to-previous-years-mortality/
tholdren
11-17-2020, 05:29 PM
A recent epidemiological study, currently available on the medRxiv* preprint server, demonstrates that all-cause mortality was mostly unchanged during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic compared to the previous four years in Norway and Sweden – two countries which took very different routes in their battle against this disease.
Conclusions All-cause mortality remained unaltered in Norway. In Sweden, the observed increase in all-cause mortality during Covid-19 was partly due to a lower than expected mortality preceding the epidemic and the observed excess mortality, was followed by a lower than expected mortality after the first Covid-19 wave. This may suggest mortality displacement
tholdren
11-17-2020, 05:33 PM
"I either don't understand the data, or am lying about it"
Totals for the year well above average.
Current RATE is in line with average.
It's almost as if your dumb ass doesn't understand the difference, or doesn't care and is lying about it.
Which is it lying or stupid? I think the latter, based on your constant fuck ups here. :lol
Foldren wrong. Provably. Again.
https://emanuelkarlsten.se/number-of-deaths-in-sweden-during-the-pandemic-compared-to-previous-years-mortality/
Here's how dumb WrongdomGuy is. He's like 6 weeks behind with the data he's presenting.
Thats how much he understands the data.
Per his link.
Loloolokoolook
Its sad really. He tried at length to pretend to ignore me. Now he thought he was really smart. In the end the same low iq post by a scared man hiding behind a mask pretending to be virtuous
What a scared low iq, dunce
ChumpDumper
11-17-2020, 05:37 PM
They dyin' now.
tholdren
11-17-2020, 05:42 PM
Here's how dumb WrongdomGuy is. He's like 6 weeks behind with the data he's presenting.
Thats how much he understands the data.
Per his link.
Loloolokoolook
Its sad really. He tried at length to pretend to ignore me. Now he thought he was really smart. In the end the same low iq post by a scared man hiding behind a mask pretending to be virtuous
What a scared low iq, dunce
End of year will show limits within normal all cause fatalities.
The end
ChumpDumper
11-17-2020, 05:44 PM
They shuttin' it down.
The end.
tholdren
11-20-2020, 06:53 AM
Norway.
How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works
Data show that the policies of Finland and Norway have been even less restrictive than Sweden's for most of the pandemic.
tholdren
11-20-2020, 06:54 AM
Belgium, for example, has the second highest COVID-19 death rate in the world even though it implemented one of the strictest lockdowns in the world (81.5 stringency). Italy and Spain had even harsher lockdowns, and both countries are also among the most devastated by the virus. (Italy’s current death rate is lower than that of Belgium and Spain, but the country is facing a resurgence of the virus that looks positively frightening.
pgardn
11-20-2020, 09:21 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/11/18/sweden-coronavirus-surge-policy/%3foutputType=amp
The big Foldren
is there any end to the WRONG
The way people are distributed in their bigger cities is already very different so they had a chance but they blew it. Mask, distance, don’t stay in the same still dry enclosed air for long periods of time with a different group of people every day. It’s much clearer now, but people just can’t get it. “Hey everyone, let’s all run red lights together, they can’t take our transportation rights away by god”
So you force rules upon yourselves because of STUPID.
Winter comes, you’ll get colder dryer air and spend more time inside with various others. It’s so damn difficult to understand.
RandomGuy
11-20-2020, 06:36 PM
Even Sweden appears to be abandoning the Swedish model. On Monday, the country’s authorities banned gatherings of more than eight people as they grappled with the second coronavirus wave surging through much of Europe. The new restrictions followed other protocols coming into effect this week, including protective measures around nursing homes and bans on alcohol sales at restaurants and bars after 10 p.m.
The shift in tone is noteworthy given Sweden’s notorious light-touch approach to the pandemic. “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future,” Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said during a news conference Monday. “Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties — cancel!”
tholdren
11-21-2020, 09:38 AM
Norway and Finland have some of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world, with 54 deaths per one million citizens and 66 per million respectively. This is well below the median in Europe (240 per million) and Sweden’s rate (605 per million).
What these critics fail to realize is that both Finland and Norway have had less restrictive policies than Sweden for the bulk of the pandemic—not more lockdowns.
Norway’s lockdown stringency has been less than 40 since early June, and fell all the way to 28.7 in September and October. Finland’s lockdown stringency followed a similar pattern, floating around the mid to low 30s for most of the second half of the year, before creeping back up to 41 around Halloween.
When people compare Sweden unfavorably to Finland and Norway to dismiss its laissez-faire policy, they are drawing the opposite conclusion from what the data point really reveals. Yes, Finland and Norway have lower deaths than Sweden—but they have actually been more laissez-faire than their neighbor for the majority of the pandemic.
tholdren
11-21-2020, 09:40 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/11/18/sweden-coronavirus-surge-policy/%3foutputType=amp
The big Foldren
is there any end to the WRONG
The way people are distributed in their bigger cities is already very different so they had a chance but they blew it. Mask, distance, don’t stay in the same still dry enclosed air for long periods of time with a different group of people every day. It’s much clearer now, but people just can’t get it. “Hey everyone, let’s all run red lights together, they can’t take our transportation rights away by god”
So you force rules upon yourselves because of STUPID.
Winter comes, you’ll get colder dryer air and spend more time inside with various others. It’s so damn difficult to understand.
Since June, Finland and Norway have had less restrictive government policies than Sweden, and both nations have endured the coronavirus remarkably well. They have been among the freest nations in the world since early June, and COVID-19 deaths have been miniscule
Neither country even has a mask mandate, though both implemented mask recommendations in August. In Norway, private gatherings in public places are still permitted, though the capacity was recently reduced to 50 people (down from 200).
In Finland, people say daily life hasn’t changed very much.
“My daily life actually hasn’t been affected too much,” healthcare assistant Gegi Aydin told one local news station.
pgardn
11-21-2020, 09:58 AM
Since June, Finland and Norway have had less restrictive government policies than Sweden, and both nations have endured the coronavirus remarkably well. They have been among the freest nations in the world since early June, and COVID-19 deaths have been miniscule
Neither country even has a mask mandate, though both implemented mask recommendations in August. In Norway, private gatherings in public places are still permitted, though the capacity was recently reduced to 50 people (down from 200).
In Finland, people say daily life hasn’t changed very much.
“My daily life actually hasn’t been affected too much,” healthcare assistant Gegi Aydin told one local news station.
yes they used masks.
voluntarily
weird concept understanding your country has other people besides me, myself, and I
boutons_deux
11-21-2020, 10:12 AM
Repugs/oligarchy have been indoctrinating their cult base to hate and distrust govt and institutions since St Ronnie the Diseased Useful Idiot
(why? with no "consent of the governed", a weakened govt is less capable of protecting citizenry from Capitalism)
so now the cult base is being killed, suicide by Freedumb, by 100Ks for "owning" the libs, govt, science by not wearing masks.
America is fucked and unfuckable (the America of the non-oligarchy, non-wealthy)
ChumpDumper
11-21-2020, 11:14 AM
Norway and Finland have some of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world, with 54 deaths per one million citizens and 66 per million respectively. This is well below the median in Europe (240 per million) and Sweden’s rate (605 per million).
What these critics fail to realize is that both Finland and Norway have had less restrictive policies than Sweden for the bulk of the pandemic—not more lockdowns.
Norway’s lockdown stringency has been less than 40 since early June, and fell all the way to 28.7 in September and October. Finland’s lockdown stringency followed a similar pattern, floating around the mid to low 30s for most of the second half of the year, before creeping back up to 41 around Halloween.
When people compare Sweden unfavorably to Finland and Norway to dismiss its laissez-faire policy, they are drawing the opposite conclusion from what the data point really reveals. Yes, Finland and Norway have lower deaths than Sweden—but they have actually been more laissez-faire than their neighbor for the majority of the pandemic.
That's just a lie. :lol
TimDunkem
11-21-2020, 11:15 AM
Folden lying, foldin, per par etc
boutons_deux
11-22-2020, 05:00 AM
"Even Sweden is implementing tough measures to contain the disease, said Olle Lonnaeus in Sydsvenskan (Sweden).
Officials had boasted that our soft-touch approach would keep case numbers low and our economy thriving through fall and winter.
Yet Sweden is now faring worse than Denmark, Norway, and Finland in terms of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths;
indeed, with 6,000 COVID-19 fatalities, Sweden has Europe's fifth-highest per capita death rate.
The Swedish government has been hamstrung by the constitution,
which guarantees freedom of assembly and makes it impossible to enforce a total lockdown.
This week, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven exploited a "plague loophole" to limit public gatherings to eight people.
This applies to religious services, sporting events, and concerts —
but not to shopping malls or private parties.
Lofven has no authority to limit those,
so all he can do is encourage people to act safely.
As Health and Social Affairs Minister Lena Hallengren puts it, "
We cannot legislate common sense."
-- email from The Week
tholdren
11-22-2020, 01:50 PM
yes they used masks.
voluntarily
weird concept understanding your country has other people besides me, myself, and I
Bwahahahahahhajahahah
So does America
tholdren
11-22-2020, 01:51 PM
That's just a lie. :lol
Nope. Published
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 01:58 PM
Nope. Published
:lmao you posted lies about the study
Why do you always have to lie?
tholdren
11-22-2020, 02:15 PM
Norway and Finland have some of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world, with 54 deaths per one million citizens and 66 per million respectively. This is well below the median in Europe (240 per million) and Sweden’s rate (605 per million).
What these critics fail to realize is that both Finland and Norway have had less restrictive policies than Sweden for the bulk of the pandemic—not more lockdowns.
Norway’s lockdown stringency has been less than 40 since early June, and fell all the way to 28.7 in September and October. Finland’s lockdown stringency followed a similar pattern, floating around the mid to low 30s for most of the second half of the year, before creeping back up to 41 around Halloween.
When people compare Sweden unfavorably to Finland and Norway to dismiss its laissez-faire policy, they are drawing the opposite conclusion from what the data point really reveals. Yes, Finland and Norway have lower deaths than Sweden—but they have actually been more laissez-faire than their neighbor for the majority of the pandemic.
That's just th truth
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:17 PM
Norway and Finland have some of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world, with 54 deaths per one million citizens and 66 per million respectively. This is well below the median in Europe (240 per million) and Sweden’s rate (605 per million).
What these critics fail to realize is that both Finland and Norway have had less restrictive policies than Sweden for the bulk of the pandemic—not more lockdowns.
Norway’s lockdown stringency has been less than 40 since early June, and fell all the way to 28.7 in September and October. Finland’s lockdown stringency followed a similar pattern, floating around the mid to low 30s for most of the second half of the year, before creeping back up to 41 around Halloween.
When people compare Sweden unfavorably to Finland and Norway to dismiss its laissez-faire policy, they are drawing the opposite conclusion from what the data point really reveals. Yes, Finland and Norway have lower deaths than Sweden—but they have actually been more laissez-faire than their neighbor for the majority of the pandemic.
That's just th truth
Bylines: Newsweek, The Washington Times, MSN.com, The Washington Examiner, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, the Epoch Times.
:lmao
tholdren
11-22-2020, 02:21 PM
Bylines: Newsweek, The Washington Times, MSN.com, The Washington Examiner, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, the Epoch Times.
:lmao
Chumpdump in meltdown mode.
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:21 PM
"A Swedish solution in both Denmark and Norway would have brought the two countries closer to their maximum capacity. The burden on healthcare systems would have been much worse, than the situation is today", Associate Professor at NHH Floris Zoutman says.
Zoutman and Steffen Juranek, both researchers at the Department of Business and Management Science (NHH), recently did a study on Covid-19. In their working paper The Effect of Social Distancing Measures on Intensive Care Occupancy: Evidence on COVID-19 in Scandinavia they evaluate the lockdown in Norway and Denmark in terms of hospitalizations and deaths.
Three times as many patients
Whereas Denmark and Norway imposed fairly strict measures against the spreading of the coronavirus, Sweden follows an extraordinarily lenient approach.
Comparing Norway and Denmark to Sweden, the lockdown measures have been dramatically effective in reducing the pressure on the healthcare system. If Norway and Denmark would have followed the Swedish example, Norway would, at the peak, have had more than three times as many COVID19-patients in hospitals. Denmark would have experienced an increase of 133 per cent.
"The demand for intensive care beds would have also been significantly higher. At the peak, Norway would have had nearly two and a half times as many patients in intensive care at the same time. In Denmark it would have been a little more than twice the number", Juranek says.
https://partner.sciencenorway.no/epidemic-health-healthcare/comparing-norway-and-sweden-norwegian-coronavirus-measures-reduced-hospitalizations-drastically/1701510
tholdren
11-22-2020, 02:22 PM
"A Swedish solution in both Denmark and Norway would have brought the two countries closer to their maximum capacity. The burden on healthcare systems would have been much worse, than the situation is today", Associate Professor at NHH Floris Zoutman says.
Zoutman and Steffen Juranek, both researchers at the Department of Business and Management Science (NHH), recently did a study on Covid-19. In their working paper The Effect of Social Distancing Measures on Intensive Care Occupancy: Evidence on COVID-19 in Scandinavia they evaluate the lockdown in Norway and Denmark in terms of hospitalizations and deaths.
Three times as many patients
Whereas Denmark and Norway imposed fairly strict measures against the spreading of the coronavirus, Sweden follows an extraordinarily lenient approach.
Comparing Norway and Denmark to Sweden, the lockdown measures have been dramatically effective in reducing the pressure on the healthcare system. If Norway and Denmark would have followed the Swedish example, Norway would, at the peak, have had more than three times as many COVID19-patients in hospitals. Denmark would have experienced an increase of 133 per cent.
"The demand for intensive care beds would have also been significantly higher. At the peak, Norway would have had nearly two and a half times as many patients in intensive care at the same time. In Denmark it would have been a little more than twice the number", Juranek says.
https://partner.sciencenorway.no/epidemic-health-healthcare/comparing-norway-and-sweden-norwegian-coronavirus-measures-reduced-hospitalizations-drastically/1701510
Bwahahajahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha
Melllllttttttdoooooowwebbbnnnnnnnnnn
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:22 PM
Finland has had 90 per cent fewer coronavirus deaths per capita than Sweden and its economy contracted by less in the first half of 2020 as well. Even now as the rest of Europe frets about a big surge in cases, Finland has one of the lowest infection rates on the continent, although it has ticked up in the past two weeks.
Experts said Finland’s approach — and the similar one of Denmark and Norway — of shutting down rapidly but not totally to get the pandemic under control, and then reopening after a couple of months has been one of the most successful in Europe in this early stage of coronavirus.
“The shutdown was never absolute and we also opened relatively quickly for the summer — this may explain the effect on the economy which was less severe,” said Mika Salminen, director of health security at THL, the Finnish expert agency on health.
He added that whereas Sweden seemed to take a “more strictly utilitarian” approach with a different tolerance for risk, Finland’s constitution strongly emphasises “the protection of life and health very high among the responsibilities of government”.
https://www.ft.com/content/61dccfaa-0871-48a2-80ac-dbe6d5b5b5f8
foldren is not smart.
tholdren
11-22-2020, 02:24 PM
Finland has had 90 per cent fewer coronavirus deaths per capita than Sweden and its economy contracted by less in the first half of 2020 as well. Even now as the rest of Europe frets about a big surge in cases, Finland has one of the lowest infection rates on the continent, although it has ticked up in the past two weeks.
Experts said Finland’s approach — and the similar one of Denmark and Norway — of shutting down rapidly but not totally to get the pandemic under control, and then reopening after a couple of months has been one of the most successful in Europe in this early stage of coronavirus.
“The shutdown was never absolute and we also opened relatively quickly for the summer — this may explain the effect on the economy which was less severe,” said Mika Salminen, director of health security at THL, the Finnish expert agency on health.
He added that whereas Sweden seemed to take a “more strictly utilitarian” approach with a different tolerance for risk, Finland’s constitution strongly emphasises “the protection of life and health very high among the responsibilities of government”.
https://www.ft.com/content/61dccfaa-0871-48a2-80ac-dbe6d5b5b5f8
foldren is not smart.
Deaths per capita. Lolooloooloooloollooolol
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:26 PM
Deaths per capita. LolooloooloooloollooololOK, just go by total deaths.
Sweden: 6406
Norway: 306
Finland: 375
Now meltdown.
tholdren
11-22-2020, 02:27 PM
OK, just go by total deaths.
Sweden: 6406
Norway: 306
Finland: 375
Now meltdown.
Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha total deaths.
Nwahahhahaahhahahah
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:28 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha total deaths.
NwahahhahaahhahahahI broke f:lolldren
Again
TimDunkem
11-22-2020, 02:30 PM
I broke f:lolldren
Again
He has at least 10k posts over the past couple of months talking about the virus he says is just the flu. That's twice as much as he said would die before he hid in the bunker in March. Also the most frequent poster in every COVID thread.
He's completely broken. :lol
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 02:32 PM
He has at least 10k posts over the past couple of months talking about the virus he says is just the flu. Most frequent poster in every COVID thread. He's completely broken. :lolHe went full retard trying to say he was visiting Taiwan and Australia when he never left Rubeland, FL.
TimDunkem
11-22-2020, 02:33 PM
He went full retard trying to say he was visiting Taiwan and Australia when he never left Rubeland, FL.
International Man of Misery :lol
tholdren
11-22-2020, 07:55 PM
Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha total deaths.
Nwahahhahaahhahahah
Chumpdump raw stats man. Loloooookklkk
TimDunkem
11-22-2020, 08:06 PM
Sweden lost.
Brazil never saw Folden.
ElNono
11-22-2020, 08:25 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
ChumpDumper
11-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Chumpdump raw stats man. Loloooookklkk:lol you don't use stats at all.
Only your raw emotions.
tholdren
11-26-2020, 10:06 AM
Chumpdump raw stats man. Loloooookklkk
Lolooooll
TimDunkem
11-26-2020, 10:13 AM
Sweden lost.
ChumpDumper
11-26-2020, 10:38 AM
LoloooollYou got all the stats proving Sweden lost.
Winehole23
11-26-2020, 11:06 AM
The average age people live “has increased steadily in Sweden from 1900 to 2019,” the agency said in a statement on Wednesday. “The fact that it’s now falling stands out.”https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-25/swedish-life-expectancy-set-to-drop-due-to-pandemic-agency-says
tholdren
11-26-2020, 11:32 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-25/swedish-life-expectancy-set-to-drop-due-to-pandemic-agency-says
Lol what an out of context statistic. You would actually have to bin each cause of death to determine if this is covid related.
In any case you're looking at an approx 2 month loss of life from those who were not healthy.
Winehole23
11-26-2020, 12:06 PM
Lol what an out of context statistic. You would actually have to bin each cause of death to determine if this is covid related. I'm sure it's just coincidental.
Did you see this?
Sweden's top infectious disease expert said Tuesday that the country has not seen evidence of herd immunity slowing the spread of the coronavirus in the country.
“The issue of herd immunity is difficult,” Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, said at a news briefing, according to Bloomberg News (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-24/sweden-says-it-sees-no-signs-herd-immunity-is-stopping-the-virus).
“We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now," Tegnell said.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/527478-top-epidemiologist-says-sweden-has-no-signs-of-herd-immunity-curbing-coronavirus
ChumpDumper
11-26-2020, 12:07 PM
Whoopsie!
tholdren
11-26-2020, 12:39 PM
I'm sure it's just coincidental.
Did you see this?
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/527478-top-epidemiologist-says-sweden-has-no-signs-of-herd-immunity-curbing-coronavirus
What does that have to do with anything?
Doesn't have to do.woth excess deaths
Don't need herd immunity for a virus that kills no one healthy
ChumpDumper
11-26-2020, 12:40 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Doesn't have to do.woth excess deaths
Don't need herd immunity for a virus that kills no one healthy:lmao meltdown
tholdren
11-26-2020, 01:26 PM
:lmao meltdown
Not really. He was trying to prove those points with his "link"
ChumpDumper
11-26-2020, 02:08 PM
Not really. He was trying to prove those points with his "link":lol you're still melting
ElNono
11-26-2020, 04:22 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 08:38 AM
Won
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 10:05 AM
https://advanced.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/genevieve-briand-300x200.jpg
tholdren
11-27-2020, 10:56 AM
Chumpdump science = the author who looks how I think they should, is correct.
Lolooololll
Cryboi
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 11:11 AM
Chumpdump science = the author who looks how I think they should, is correct.
Lolooololll
Cryboi:lol are you still traveling?
Lieboi.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 11:28 AM
Chumpdump science = the author who looks how I think they should, is correct.
Lolooololll
Cryboi
Chumpdump deflect.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 01:12 PM
All cause mortality jan 1 - oct 31
Per 100,000
2015 - 769
2020 - 748
I win
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 02:11 PM
All cause mortality jan 1 - oct 31
Per 100,000
2015 - 769
2020 - 748
I winWhy would any honest person include the first 70 days of either year?
That's what losers would do.
tholdren has no intelligence.
Go back and do it from March 11 of each year.
If you're honest.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:11 PM
Why would any honest person include the first 70 days of either year?
That's what losers would do.
tholdren has no intelligence.
Go back and do it from March 11 of each year.
If you're honest.
Chumpdump so ignorant. January through October includes March. The concept is, just like I said before this will be a normed year for fatalities. No masks. No lockdown.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:11 PM
Sweden lost
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:14 PM
Chumpdump so ignorant. January through October includes March. The concept is, just like I said before this will be a normed year for fatalities. No masks. No lockdown.Why include January through March 11?
No COVID deaths until March 11.
Explain why you want to lie.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:22 PM
Why include January through March 11?
No COVID deaths until March 11.
Explain why you want to lie.
Chumpdump so ignorant he doesn't understand. Loloooloooolloollkkkllklllooooolooooklkook
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:26 PM
Chumpdump so ignorant he doesn't understand. Loloooloooolloollkkkllklllooooolooooklkook
I understand Sweden's deaths were actually lower than average before the first COVID death March 11.
How about after?
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:26 PM
Fold lies
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:27 PM
I understand Sweden's deaths were actually lower than average before the first COVID death March 11.
How about after?
Bwahhahahahahahjahajajajajajjajahahahahhahaahahaha hahhajahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahzh zhzh
Chumpdump proves point and doesn't even know it
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:28 PM
Bwahhahahahahahjahajajajajajjajahahahahhahaahahaha hahhajahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahzh zhzh
Chumpdump proves point and doesn't even know itfoldren folds and he knows it.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:28 PM
Fold never went to Brazil
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:29 PM
Fold never went to Brazil
fold never went to Australia
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:30 PM
fold never went to Australia
Or Dubai.
And never was a HS basketball star. :lmao
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:31 PM
Or Dubai.
And never was a HS basketball star. :lmaoHe won one game of HORSE against his mom and quit forever claiming he's undefeated.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:31 PM
Chumpdump so ignorant. January through October includes March. The concept is, just like I said before this will be a normed year for fatalities. No masks. No lockdown.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:33 PM
But it's been much worse since COVID actually started killing people.:tu
Thanks for losing again, foldren.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:34 PM
Chumpdump so ignorant. January through October includes March. The concept is, just like I said before this will be a normed year for fatalities. No masks. No lockdown
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:34 PM
^no science
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:35 PM
Chumpdump so ignorant. January through October includes March. The concept is, just like I said before this will be a normed year for fatalities. No masks. No lockdownBut it's been much worse since COVID actually started killing people.
Thanks for losing again, foldren.:tu
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:36 PM
But it's been much worse since COVID actually started killing people.
Thanks for losing again, foldren.:tu
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities.:lmao
When you add the abnormally low deaths before COVID started killing people, everything is fine!
You are low intelligence.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:38 PM
Fold lied about traveling the world, hiding in a bunker in the Spring, and being a HS basketball star. :lmao
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:39 PM
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
He didn't respond. Shocking
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:39 PM
Fold folds again. Shocking.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:40 PM
He didn't respond. Shocking:lol you're so busy rapid responding, you can't even read other people's responses.
You lose.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:41 PM
:lol you're so busy rapid responding, you can't even read other people's responses.
You lose.
Old man can't hit f5 fast enough. :lmao
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:42 PM
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
Chumpdump in hiding
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Chumpdump in hidingalready answered
Are deaths up since March 11?
Yes or no.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Fold hid in the Spring.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:50 PM
already answered
Are deaths up since March 11?
Yes or no.
Chumpdump lying.... never answered only deflected.....
One more time cryboi
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:52 PM
Chumpdump lying.... never answered only deflected.....
One more time cryboi
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?already answered
Are deaths up since March 11?
Yes or no.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 03:53 PM
Chumpdump lying.... never answered only deflected.....
One more time cryboi
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
Doubling down on lying. Or repost your answer.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:54 PM
Doubling down on lying. Or repost your answer.:lol making demands when you didn't even read it in the first place.
Go back and read if you have any intelligence at all.
Spoiler: You have none.
Insta-reply will only confirm.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:55 PM
Anti-science COVID crusade such a huge part of folds life now. You wonder how he has time to go to Brazil and Dubai maskless. :lmao
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 03:56 PM
Anti-science COVID crusade such a huge part of folds life now. You wonder how he has time to go to Brazil and Dubai maskless. :lmao:cryI'm not in Dubai! I'm traveling to Dubai by bus!:cry
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 03:58 PM
:cryI'm not in Dubai! I'm traveling to Dubai by bus!:cry
"Took my mask off and beat a bunch of sandal wearing children in basketball with only set shot 2s!! :cry"
tholdren
11-27-2020, 04:01 PM
Chumpdump lying.... never answered only deflected.....
One more time cryboi
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
Chumpdump tripled down on the lies.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 04:03 PM
Chumpdump tripled down on the lies.I already explained it. You even acknowledged it.
All you're doing now is admitting you have pathetically low intelligence.
Randy.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 04:04 PM
Tholdren calling others liars when he is the one with the triple crown of being a bunker bitch, lying about travel, and lying about being a basketball star. :lmao
tholdren
11-27-2020, 04:07 PM
Tholdren calling others liars when he is the one with the triple crown of being a bunker bitch, lying about travel, and lying about being a basketball star. :lmao
Bwahahaahahahahhahahaha meltdown by the queen of covid. You cried online and wished others well. Bwahahjaahahahahahahahahahahahhahah
I'm traveling the globe. Enjoy your mask
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 04:08 PM
Bwahahaahahahahhahahaha meltdown by the queen of covid. You cried online and wished others well. Bwahahjaahahahahahahahahahahahhahah
I'm traveling the globe. Enjoy your mask:lol lieboi is in his bunker like he's been this entire time.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 04:09 PM
Bwahahaahahahahhahahaha meltdown by the queen of covid. You cried online and wished others well. Bwahahjaahahahahahahahahahahahhahah
I'm traveling the globe. Enjoy your mask
Lololoookolook
Sweden still no mask mandates. Still no lockdowns.. .. science
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 04:10 PM
Sweden lost.
Randy lost.
Folden folded
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 04:10 PM
Lololoookolook
Sweden still no mask mandates. Still no lockdowns.. .. science:lol lieboi forgot where he said he was traveling.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 04:11 PM
Imagine lying about traveling. Bwahahaha
tholdren
11-27-2020, 04:55 PM
Lololoookolook
Sweden still no mask mandates. Still no lockdowns.. .. science
Still traveling
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:08 PM
Still travelingto where?
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:15 PM
to where?
Lololooo
Chumpdump can't stay away.
ElNono
11-27-2020, 05:21 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:28 PM
Chumpdump lying.... never answered only deflected.....
One more time cryboi
Has nothing to do with annual fatalities. But tell us more. Why is the most lethal disease since 1918, according to you, not outpacing every year?
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:30 PM
Lololooo
Chumpdump can't stay away.:lol lieboi lying about traveling
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:31 PM
:lol lieboi lying about traveling
Prove it.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:32 PM
Prove it.:lmao demanding I prove a negative.
You are no intelligence.
Prove your claim you are traveling.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:42 PM
:lmao demanding I prove a negative.
You are no intelligence.
Prove your claim you are traveling.
Your claim was i lied about traveling...... loloooll
Bwhahagaggagagagahagahgagagaga
Got chump so twisted he's lost his mind
ElNono
11-27-2020, 05:42 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:43 PM
Your claim was i lied about traveling...... loloooll
Bwhahagaggagagagahagahgagagaga
Got chump so twisted he's lost his mind
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:43 PM
Your claim was i lied about traveling...... loloooll
Bwhahagaggagagagahagahgagagaga
Got chump so twisted he's lost his mindProve you're traveling.
Your claim. Your burden.
TimDunkem
11-27-2020, 05:43 PM
Prove you're traveling.
The front of a random newspaper in Brazil is personal info bro
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:44 PM
The front of a random newspaper in Brazil is personal info bro
Yes it is
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:45 PM
Yes it islieboi
ElNono
11-27-2020, 05:45 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:47 PM
lieboi
Cryboi more tears he's scared
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:47 PM
Cryboi more tears he's scaredProve you're traveling.
You won't because you're a scared lieboi.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:48 PM
Prove you're traveling.
Why are you so mad ChumpDumper? Because I have been treveling with no mask for months while.you are hiding?
Sad. Don't be scared. 7 times positive here. 0 symptoms
ElNono
11-27-2020, 05:49 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:49 PM
I have been treveling with no mask for monthsProve it.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:50 PM
Why are you so mad ChumpDumper? Because I have been treveling with no mask for months while.you are hiding?
Sad. Don't be scared. 7 times positive here. 0 symptoms
Sweden 2020 death will not be the highest for fatalities.... why?.....????????
ElNono
11-27-2020, 05:50 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:51 PM
Sweden 2020 death will not be the highest for fatalities.... why?.....????????Which year will be?
Don't lie.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 05:52 PM
Sweden 2020 death will not be the highest for fatalities.... why?.....????????
ChumpDumper passing the buck. Said Sweden lost due to all the fatalities. Yet not the highest..... wonder why??????
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 05:56 PM
ChumpDumper passing the buck. Said Sweden lost due to all the fatalities. Yet not the highest..... wonder why??????low January 1 to March 11 deaths.
Did they go up after March 11?
Yes or no.
foldren folds
lol
I win.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 08:55 PM
ChumpDumper passing the buck. Said Sweden lost due to all the fatalities. Yet not the highest..... wonder why??????
ElNono
11-27-2020, 09:19 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-27-2020, 09:33 PM
ChumpDumper passing the buck. Said Sweden lost due to all the fatalities. Yet not the highest..... wonder why??????
He's silent
Ef-man
11-27-2020, 09:43 PM
He's silent
Lieboi foldren folds and lies.
ChumpDumper
11-27-2020, 11:08 PM
He's silentAsked and answered.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:21 AM
Why are you so mad ChumpDumper? Because I have been treveling with no mask for months while.you are hiding?
Sad. Don't be scared. 7 times positive here. 0 symptoms
Chumpdump scared.
TimDunkem
11-28-2020, 04:32 PM
I wish fold would go to a Swedish rave. :lol
tholdren
11-28-2020, 06:13 PM
Chumpdump scared.
No masks
ElNono
11-28-2020, 06:44 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 07:19 PM
No masks
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lol
ElNono
11-28-2020, 07:23 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 08:07 PM
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lol
ChumpDumper
11-28-2020, 08:25 PM
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lolHe posted the rules they now have.
He's right.
You're wrong.
Nono wins.
Ef-man
11-28-2020, 08:39 PM
He posted the rules they now have.
He's right.
You're wrong.
Nono wins.
Correct.
Foldren must have been driving to Dubai and did not see the rules.
Or maybe he was in basement in Brazil and did not comprehend posted rules in Portuguese.
Sad.
ElNono
11-28-2020, 08:39 PM
Foldren lost and folded, per par
Ef-man
11-28-2020, 08:43 PM
Foldren lost and folded, per par
Next time you post strict rules, use pictures and cartoons so foldren can understand them.
Otherwise, foldren will be hospitalized for foldingitis (rare mental health condition from folding too tightly).
ElNono
11-28-2020, 09:46 PM
Next time you post strict rules, use pictures and cartoons so foldren can understand them.
Otherwise, foldren will be hospitalized for foldingitis (rare mental health condition from folding too tightly).
brah, you going to that rave in Brazil tomorrow?
Ef-man
11-28-2020, 10:03 PM
brah, you going to that rave in Brazil tomorrow?
No time for raves.
I will be driving to Venezuela to pay homage to the patron saint of electronic election rigging (St. Hugo Chavez).
Though I hear the foldren will be raving in his basement, as usual.
http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/2013/03/05/130305_barack_obama_hugo_chavez__2_ap_605.jpg
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:24 PM
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lol
TimDunkem
11-28-2020, 10:26 PM
Must be some great rave to be shitposting for 30 hours straight. :lol
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:29 PM
Must be some great rave to be shitposting for 30 hours straight. :lol
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lol
TimDunkem
11-28-2020, 10:29 PM
What does Randy have to say about this?
ElNono
11-28-2020, 10:30 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:30 PM
Still.
Remember when Elwrongwrong said there were super strict rules coming? I do.... lol
TimDunkem
11-28-2020, 10:30 PM
Sweden lost, tbh.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:32 PM
Fatalities are fatalities.
Why should they be "taken away"?
Lololooolll
TimDunkem
11-28-2020, 10:34 PM
Foldren wrong about Sweden. It is what it is.
tholdren
11-28-2020, 10:34 PM
TimDunkem drunk
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