"Muh Sweden."

[midnightpulp]

All this gossip by tholdren in ITT. Stop gossiping

[tholdren]

Wrong. The closer you get to the avg life span the higher the risk of death. That is science

The argument is no one healthy had a death rate remotely close to flu extremely rare and extremely low rate for working class. There was no lockdown there were no masks. There was no over testing. Strange that non politicized covid is less destructive than politicized covid.

Fact

[boutons_deux]

For every shitpost by troll tholdren, none worthy of response, there are 3+ inane pissing match responses.

ignore the troll, reduce ST shitpost / urinating volume by 50%

[DMC]

One thing is for certain - the methods for counting deaths and even cases of each virus are worlds apart. For example, with influenza in Sweden:

Data on laboratory-confirmed influenza patients are intermittently linked to Swedish Tax Agency data on death in order to identify deceased individuals and to retrieve their dates of death. If 30 days or less have elapsed since the influenza diagnosis, the death is considered to be influenza related. This measurement is not specific nor is it sensitive. It is imprecise because a death within 30 days might have been caused by something else, and it is not sensitive because this measure does not include deaths if the diagnosis of influenza was not laboratory confirmed. Therefore, there are most likely a large number of unrecorded deaths from influenza. In addition, the data do not include information about underlying risk factors or complications of influenza infection.

While there are likely a large number of unrecorded deaths for COVID-19, the R0 and fear factor involved with it along with political ramifications means aggressive testing is occurring. This isn't true for influenza. There are no long lines of influenza testing drivethrus, no daily report on influenza positive cases and most people never get a lab result on influenza, so it's hard to say what the true ifr is for it. If you count everyone who dies within 30 days of a positive report for influenza in the US, you'd obviously have a higher fatality rate than you have when the cause of death is actually known.

It's the infection rate that is so elusive. With influenza, I am borderline asymptomatic but could be a carrier so I get a flu shot yearly. If no one got flu shots just like no one gets COVID-19 immunizations, what would the ifr rate be for each?

The meat of the matter is that they are additive. You don't get to choose one or the other, they both still exist and add to the case load.

[tholdren]

For every shitpost by troll tholdren, none worthy of response, there are 3+ inane pissing match responses.

ignore the troll, reduce ST shitpost / urinating volume by 50%

lolololol #cancelculture hero

[tholdren]

sweden ifr for healthy working class and kids makes midnightpulp lie and sad

[tholdren]

midnightpulp and blake why don't the nordic countries have mask policies?

[ChumpDumper]

midnightpulp and blake why don't the nordic countries have mask policies?Denmark does have have a mask policy. You should probably update your distraction premise list.

[tholdren]

Denmark does have have a mask policy. You should probably update your distraction premise list.

they don't. And their number 1 advice.... WASH YOUR HANDS

https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/FAQ

[tholdren]

lolololololollolloll ChumpDumper wrong again bwahahahahahjaajahajajajahahahahahahajahahhajajaja jajajjajajajajajjajajajajaja

[ChumpDumper]

they don't. And their number 1 advice.... WASH YOUR HANDS

https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/FAQ:lol it's right there on the page you linked.

[tholdren]

Danish health also says "the real mortality rate is probably much lower"


At least the are honest


They also said lockdowns were unnecessary


But go on ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

Danish health also says "the real mortality rate is probably much lower"


At least the are honest


They also said lockdowns were unnecessary


But go on ChumpDumper:lol you didn't even read the page you linked.

[Spurtacular]

**

[tholdren]

:lol it's right there on the page you linked.

lllolololol

Only at airports, not in general public.... bwahahahahahhahahajajahahahahahhahahahahahahahahha hajajahahahhahahahahahahha

[tholdren]

:lol you didn't even read the page you linked.

wrong again. Same faq.



Bqahahabhahahjababanababbahahahabhahahahahahhahaha hahahhahahahahhahahahahah

[ChumpDumper]

lllolololol

Only at airports, not in general public.... bwahahahahahhahahajajahahahahahhahahahahahahahahha hajajahahahhahahahahahahhath:lolldren with yet another own goal.

[tholdren]

this is hilarious ChumpDumper wrong 3 times about the same thing because he cannot read it. Lololooollolloolllllll

Tell us more


Bwahahahhahahahahhahaha

[ChumpDumper]

wrong again. Same faq.



Bqahahabhahahjababanababbahahahabhahahahahahhahaha hahahhahahahahhahahahahah:lol you just admitted they have a mask policy

[tholdren]

th:lolldren with yet another own goal.

beahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha

Chumpdump with the weasel move. There is no mask policy for general public.
Bwahahhahahahahahahah

[tholdren]

lolololol ChumpDumper thinking denmark has had mask policy in place for general public.


Lolololol

[ChumpDumper]

beahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha

Chumpdump with the weasel move. There is no mask policy for general public.
BwahahhahahahahahahahOf course it's a policy for the general public.

You said they had no policy at all.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump why would nordic countries not have mask policy for general public?

[tholdren]

Of course it's a policy for the general public.

You said they had no policy at all.

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahah

Lololoololl

Wrong again




Bwahahahhahahahahahhahahahhabahahahahhahahahahaaha hhaahahahhaha

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump why would nordic countries not have mask policy for general public?:lol you're moving the goalpost.

You said they had no mask policy at all.

And now you're melting down.

[tholdren]

:lol you're moving the goalpost.

You said they had no mask policy at all.

And now you're melting down.

lololololololl ChumpDumper wrong

[ChumpDumper]

Denmark does have have a mask policy. You should probably update your distraction premise list.


they don't. wr:lolng

[tholdren]

Chumpdump claiming denmark has a public face mask guideline when its only a European aviation safety agency policy. On planes until you exit the airport


Then masks optional.


Pretty much sums up Chumpdump wrong

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren said they have no policy at all.

They do have a policy and it's not just about airports.

That's how he's wrong.

He'll try to move that goalpost tho.

[tholdren]

th:lolldren said they have no policy at all.

They do have a policy and it's not just about airports.

That's how he's wrong.

He'll try to move that goalpost tho.

Lololo ChumpDumper thinks that the aviation safety agency of Europe flattened the curve with their airport mask requirement on june 15.

If only California would do the same. The virus would be gone. Because everyone hangs out in the airport all day.

[ChumpDumper]

Lololo ChumpDumper thinks that the aviation safety agency of Europe flattened the curve with their airport mask requirement on june 15.

If only California would do the same. The virus would be gone. Because everyone hangs out in the airport all day.Here's where th:lolldren makes up a narrative that has nothing to do with anything in an attempt to distract from his being wrong.

You were wrong.

It's OK.

You're wrong a lot.

[tholdren]

Denmarks number one advice....


WASH YOUR HANDS

Baseline bum

[tholdren]

Here's where th:lolldren makes up a narrative that has nothing to do with anything in an attempt to distract from his being wrong.

You were wrong.

It's OK.

You're wrong a lot.

Nope no public mask poicy in debmark. Only consumers of a service

[ChumpDumper]

Nope no public mask poicy in debmark.Wrong.

:lol "poicy"
:lol "debmark"

You're falling apart.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

So mask wearing from the public policy in Denmark made the virus go away?

[ChumpDumper]

So mask wearing from the public policy in Denmark made the virus go away?
Straw man.

Here's where th:lolldren makes up a narrative that has nothing to do with anything in an attempt to distract from his being wrong.

You were wrong.

It's OK.

You're wrong a lot.

[tholdren]

Straw man.

No policy in any nordic country for general population. ChumpDumper wants to.use these as an example, but not as an example of why masks work or are needed

[ChumpDumper]

No policy in any nordic country for general population. ChumpDumper wants to.use these as an example, but not as an example of why masks work or are needed:lol You're still trying to move the goalpost.

[tholdren]

:lol You're still trying to move the goalpost.
Nope. You said masks are scientifically proven to be effective. Denmark disagrees. That is why in public they do not mandate them. Additionally they said lockdown was unnecessary. Yet you call denmark a success and sweden a fail.

You flip flop. This is sea lion trolling at its finest.

So which is it? Is denmark a success for no masks and proclaiming lockdown unnecessary? Or are they now bad trump followers?

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. You said masks are scientifically proven to be effective. Denmark disagrees. That is why in public they do not mandate them. Additionally they said lockdown was unnecessary. Yet you call denmark a success and sweden a fail.

You flip flop. This is sea lion trolling at its finest.

So which is it? Is denmark a success for no masks and proclaiming lockdown unnecessary? Or are they now bad trump followers?
:lmao more straw men to distract from your failure.

You said they had no policy.

You were wrong.

Period.

[tholdren]

:lmao more straw men to distract from your failure.

You said they had no policy.

You were wrong.

Period.

Nope. You were

[tholdren]

Nope. You said masks are scientifically proven to be effective. Denmark disagrees. That is why in public they do not mandate them. Additionally they said lockdown was unnecessary. Yet you call denmark a success and sweden a fail.

You flip flop. This is sea lion trolling at its finest.

So which is it? Is denmark a success for no masks and proclaiming lockdown unnecessary? Or are they now bad trump followers?

Chumpdump avoiding because masks only work in some countries. Denmark says they are not scientific nor are lockdowns. So he's back into cognitive dissonance.

[tholdren]

chumpdump about to say only masks in airports in the us will eliminate covid. And his new no 1 advice, just like denmark, wash your hands

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. You wereWrong.


Chumpdump avoiding because masks only work in some countries. Denmark says they are not scientific nor are lockdowns. So he's back into cognitive dissonance.Wrong.


chumpdump about to say only masks in airports in the us will eliminate covid.Wrong.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump avoiding because masks only work in some countries. Denmark says they are not scientific nor are lockdowns. So he's back into cognitive dissonance.

sea lion chump dump avoiding and deflecting at a rate of F5

[ChumpDumper]

sea lion chump dump avoiding and deflecting at a rate of F5I said you were wrong.

Not much more to say.

[tholdren]

Sea lion chump rizzzonnnnnggg

[ElNono]

:lmao more straw men to distract from your failure.

:lol

[tholdren]

ChumpDumper doesn't understand that no nordic countries recommend mask wearing in public. All nordic countries have said lockdowns were unnecessary. All nordic countries say handwashing is the number one advice.

Yet somehow ChumpDumper believes that mask wearing is a must and science to have minimal covid spread or fatalities....

And he won't explain how or why... sea lion

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

ChumpDumper doesn't understand that no nordic countries recommend mask wearing in public. All nordic countries have said lockdowns were unnecessary. All nordic countries say handwashing is the number one advice.

Yet somehow ChumpDumper believes that mask wearing is a must and science to have minimal covid spread or fatalities....

And he won't explain how or why... sea lion
South Dakota

[midnightpulp]

South Dakota

Hawaii has the best death rate in the country while having the 13th highest population density. SD has the 46th highest population density. Hawaii won.

https://i.imgur.com/o1dMhGn.png

[tholdren]

Hawaii has the best death rate in the country while having the 13th highest population density. SD has the 46th highest population density. Hawaii won.

https://i.imgur.com/o1dMhGn.png
Lololololll no, because you aren't counting any ruined lives or lockdown death.
Some 4,564 visitors traveled to Hawaii last month, according to HTA preliminary statistics. That’s a 99.5% drop compared with a year ago when 856,250 visitors came by air and cruise ship. On Tuesday, 497 visitors were among the 1,626 passengers that flew into Hawaii on 16 flights.

You dont get it. Which is why your posts are laughable

[midnightpulp]

Lololololll no, because you aren't counting any ruined lives or lockdown death.
Some 4,564 visitors traveled to Hawaii last month, according to HTA preliminary statistics. That’s a 99.5% drop compared with a year ago when 856,250 visitors came by air and cruise ship. On Tuesday, 497 visitors were among the 1,626 passengers that flew into Hawaii on 16 flights.

You dont get it. Which is why your posts are laughable

Hawaii saw 7x times fewer deaths than SD. They won. They'll be able to open up their economy soon and tourists will feel safe travelling to a state with low infections.

[ChumpDumper]

Lololololll no, because you aren't counting any ruined lives or lockdown death.Show us your lockdown death stats for HI.

[tholdren]

Hawaii saw 7x times fewer deaths than SD. They won. They'll be able to open up their economy soon and tourists will feel safe travelling to a state with low infections.

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhah

[tholdren]

Hawaii saw 7x times fewer deaths than SD. They won. They'll be able to open up their economy soon and tourists will feel safe travelling to a state with low infections.

they have already, again delayed tourism fully opening. Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah


Lololol Hawaii ruined their own economy when they could have just worn masks the whole time... errrrr....

[tholdren]

they have already, again delayed tourism fully opening. Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah


Lololol Hawaii ruined their own economy when they could have just worn masks the whole time... errrrr....

Quick ChumpDumper compare what all the nordic countries say about masks and lockdowns..... oh boy

[midnightpulp]

they have already, again delayed tourism fully opening. Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah


Lololol Hawaii ruined their own economy when they could have just worn masks the whole time... errrrr....

Hawaii PROTECTED their citizens like a responsible and compassionate society should, rather than send people into harm's way for the sake of the economy. Lives over money.

[tholdren]

Hawaii PROTECTED their citizens like a responsible and compassionate society should, rather than send people into harm's way for the sake of the economy. Lives over money.

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahah protected their citizens by making everyone suffer rather than protecting who should be protected . Harmed more than helped.

[midnightpulp]

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahah protected their citizens by making everyone suffer rather than protecting who should be protected . Harmed more than helped.

They protected who should be protected. The citizens of Hawaii.

[tholdren]

They protected who should be protected. The citizens of Hawaii.

And this is what you dont admit. Not all needed protection.

Only 5 percent of a select group. Again, you need math in your life. Try a tedtalk

[tholdren]

5% of a population needed protection. So in protection they harmed over 90 percent.

Lockdown equal fail. Should have just used masks. Unless you ask denmark then you shouldn't even do that

[baseline bum]

And this is what you dont admit. Not all needed protection.

Only 5 percent of a select group. Again, you need math in your life. Try a tedtalk

You got your Ph.D at TEDTalk U?

[tholdren]

You got your Ph.D at TEDTalk U?

You dont understand probabilities so find that one first.

[baseline bum]

You dont understand probabilities so find that one first.

Is that where you learned probability too?

[tholdren]

Is that where you learned probability too?

no

[baseline bum]

no

You should petition your school to let you publish

[tholdren]

You should petition your school to let you publish
If your groundbreaking stuff can't get published I have no chance

[ElNono]

You should petition your school to let you publish

He should ask his school for a refund while he's at it.

[tholdren]

He should ask his school for a refund while he's at it.

What about all nordic countries who explain masks and lockdowns are not scientific. Refund for them too?

[clambake]

What about all nordic countries who explain masks and lockdowns are not scientific. Refund for them too?

They don’t have to pay for college.

[tholdren]

They don’t have to pay for college.

Good point.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump was on the ask Denmark train until he found out they dont believe in the science behind masks or the science of lockdowns..... odd

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump was on the ask Denmark train until he found out they dont believe in the science behind masks or the science of lockdowns..... oddWhy do you lie about everything?

[tholdren]

Chumpdump was on the ask Denmark train until he found out they dont believe in the science behind masks or the science of lockdowns..... odd

Lololol ChumpDumper sea lioning.

Above.

[ChumpDumper]

Lololol ChumpDumper sea lioning.

Above.You didn't answer the question.

Why do you lie about everything?

[tholdren]

You didn't answer the question.

Why do you lie about everything?

Sea lion alert.


Masks at only airports prevent all covid. Ask ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

Sea lion alert.


Masks at only airports prevent all covid. Ask ChumpDumperWhy do you lie about everything?

[tholdren]

Lol

[ElNono]

Lol

Wrong

[tholdren]

bump

[midnightpulp]

bump

Denmark and Norway really controlled their outbreak much better vs. Sweden. Credit to countries who put their people above the stock market!

And credit Hawaii!

[tholdren]

Denmark and Norway really controlled their outbreak much better vs. Sweden. Credit to countries who put their people above the stock market!

And credit Hawaii!

Bwahahahahhahaha
You didn't know how cdc counts cases and fatalities

[ChumpDumper]

f:lolldren trying to change the subject.

[tholdren]

Denmark and Norway really controlled their outbreak much better vs. Sweden. Credit to countries who put their people above the stock market!

And credit Hawaii!

and they all have said they don't need masks and wouldn't lock down again. Lolololol

So they agree with me. Not you.

I win again

[ChumpDumper]

and they all have said they don't need masks and wouldn't lock down again. Lolololol

So they agree with me. Not you.

I win againf:lolldren lying so hard.

Denmark and Norway proved you completely wrong.

[tholdren]

f:lolldren lying so hard.

Denmark and Norway proved you completely wrong.

bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah no they didn't.


They even said that lockdowns and masks are not supported by science.


Bwahahahahahhshshsh

Chumpdump wrong again. 2 weeks loloolollloollool

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah no they didn't.Sure they did.

Apologize for being so wrong about Sweden.

[tholdren]

Sure they did.

Apologize for being so wrong about Sweden.

chumpdump thought denmark had a mask policy for the general public.

Lolopl

And they say not supported by science.

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump thought denmark had a mask policy for the general public. They do.

You posted it.

Apologize for lying.

[midnightpulp]

and they all have said they don't need masks and wouldn't lock down again. Lolololol

So they agree with me. Not you.

I win again

Uh yeah, because their first lockdown was so effective they can keep the R0 in check. And their population is more responsible, unlike ours.

And Hawaii! What a story, eh? Lowest death rate in the US.

[tholdren]

Uh yeah, because their first lockdown was so effective they can keep the R0 in check. And their population is more responsible, unlike ours.

And Hawaii! What a story, eh? Lowest death rate in the US.

they said they would not do that if it occurred. Keep up

[midnightpulp]

they said they would not do that if it occurred. Keep up

Link? Here's a link for you.

"Denmark will face less economic pain."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-25/denmark-s-funding-need-more-than-triples-to-pay-for-covid-crisis

Lockdown, control the virus, reduce r0, well behaved citizens complying with mitigation. This is how reduce deaths and limit the economic damage. Lockdowns WORK.

And Hawaii! What a great story!

[ChumpDumper]

Link? Here's a link for you.

"Denmark will face less economic pain."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-25/denmark-s-funding-need-more-than-triples-to-pay-for-covid-crisis

Lockdown, control the virus, reduce r0, well behaved citizens complying with mitigation. This is how reduce deaths and limit the economic damage. Lockdowns WORK.

And Hawaii! What a great story!Yep, all great success stories and huge losses for th:lolldren and his lies.

He needs to apologize.

[tholdren]

Link? Here's a link for you.

"Denmark will face less economic pain."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-25/denmark-s-funding-need-more-than-triples-to-pay-for-covid-crisis

Lockdown, control the virus, reduce r0, well behaved citizens complying with mitigation. This is how reduce deaths and limit the economic damage. Lockdowns WORK.

And Hawaii! What a great story!

Hawaii has over 30percent unemployment.

Lolol

Ruining over a 3rd of the citizens of the states lives, kill.others during lockdown for lack of medical treatment, to do what exactly?

Oh you dont know....

Lolooo

You not good with logic


Remember
When
You
Didn't
Understand
Case/fatality
Definitions?

Priceless

[ChumpDumper]

Hawaii has over 30percent unemployment.

Lolol

Ruining over a 3rd of the citizens of the states lives, kill.others during lockdown for lack of medical treatment, to do what exactly?

Oh you dont know....

Lolooo

You not good with logic


Remember
When
You
Didn't
Understand
Case/fatality
Definitions?

Priceless:lol enter button meltdown.

[tholdren]

hawaiipublucradio.com

Roughly 30000 people will leave hawaii due to covod lockdown


And midnightpulp cheering success..


Not a success

[ElNono]

hawaiipublucradio.com

Roughly 30000 people will leave hawaii due to covod lockdown

And midnightpulp cheering success..

Not a success

gossip

[tholdren]

hawaiipublucradio.com

Roughly 30000 people will leave hawaii due to covod lockdown


And midnightpulp cheering success..


Not a success

bwahahahhahaha midnightpulp

[ElNono]

bwahahahhahaha midnightpulp

wrong

[midnightpulp]

bwahahahhahaha midnightpulp

Better than 30K people leaving in a casket.

[tholdren]

Better than 30K people leaving in a casket.

Delays to cancer diagnosis and treatment due to coronavirus could cause thousands of excess deaths in the UK within a year, research suggests.

Scientists suggest there could be at least 7,000 additional deaths - but in a worst case scenario that number could be as high as 35,000.

Great job. You've proven to save 0 lives and proven to kill a lot.

Terrible success story

[ElNono]

Delays to cancer diagnosis and treatment due to coronavirus could cause thousands of excess deaths in the UK within a year, research suggests.

Scientists suggest there could be at least 7,000 additional deaths - but in a worst case scenario that number could be as high as 35,000.

Great job. You've proven to save 0 lives and proven to kill a lot.

Terrible success story

Speculation. Show your math.

[tholdren]

Then you can add in screenings and those who were not at risk who now have or could bea cancer fatality. 86 percent drop in screening.

[ChumpDumper]

suggestGossip.

Apologize for posting gossip.

[ChumpDumper]

Then you can addAdd actual numbers.

Show your math.

[tholdren]

Speculation. Show your math.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53300784?

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53300784?That's not your math.

Are you recovering from COVID? Did it affect your cognitive ability three months ago?

You don't even know what math is anymore.

[ElNono]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53300784?

Speculation, we're not the UK, not your math. Show your math.

[tholdren]

covid death bout to be lower than lockdown deat



Facts

[tholdren]

Effective and science-based means in use

The Ministry of Social Affairs and the National Institute for Health and Welfare are reminding that it has been considered important throughout the coronavirus outbreak in Finland to use effective and scientific measures based on long-term evidence to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

The health authorities are monitoring the situation closely and, if new evidence or information emerges, the recommendations may naturally change. At present, Finland's activities base consistently on the policies and recommendations of the World Health Organization (WHO) and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

According to the WHO and ECDC, asymptomatic people do not need to wear masks or protectors in public places. There is very little scientific evidence of their effectiveness

[midnightpulp]

covid death bout to be lower than lockdown deat



Facts

Show your math.

[boutons_deux]

Dozens of Swedish doctors, scientists criticize country's coronavirus approach in grim op-ed

The experts warned other nations not to follow the Nordic country's footsteps. "At the moment, we have set an example for the rest of the world on how not to deal with a deadly infectious disease,"

The evidence seems to back up the signees' grim outlook —

Sweden has a per capita death toll greater than the United States,

as well as a raw death toll that is 4.5 times greater than the other four Nordic countries (Iceland, Denmark, Finland, and Norway) combined, the op-ed notes (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/21/coronavirus-swedish-herd-immunity-drove-up-death-toll-column/5472100002/).

And the country's fatality rate has also been gaining on Italy, the first European country to be hit hard by COVID-19.

they said (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/21/coronavirus-swedish-herd-immunity-drove-up-death-toll-column/5472100002/), don't do things "the Swedish way."

https://theweek.com/speedreads/926741/dozens-swedish-doctors-scientists-criticize-countrys-coronavirus-approach-grim-oped (https://theweek.com/speedreads/926741/dozens-swedish-doctors-scientists-criticize-countrys-coronavirus-approach-grim-oped)

[tholdren]

Finland low death rates due to counting deaths appropriately. MUST HAVE CONFIRMED COVID TEST

MUST HAVE SYMPTOMS THAT LED TO FATALITY.

finland uses the died from not with covid

Finland death rates low.

Proceed

[ChumpDumper]

Finland low death rates due to counting deaths appropriately. MUST HAVE CONFIRMED COVID TEST

MUST HAVE SYMPTOMS THAT LED TO FATALITY.

finland uses the died from not with covid

Finland death rates low.

ProceedGossip.

th:lolldren lies.

[tholdren]

Gossip.

th:lolldren lies.

nope facts are facts. Denmark re opened schools last April as did finland.

For wanting to talk about death rates in nordic countries you sure are ignorant to their processes.

[ChumpDumper]

nope facts are facts. Denmark re opened schools last April as did finland.

For wanting to talk about death rates in nordic countries you sure are ignorant to their processes.Oh, you want to talk about deaths?

Compare excess deaths this year in the Nordic countries.

Which country is much higher than all the others?

Let's see if you can be honest.

I predict you will change the subject.

[tholdren]

nope facts are facts. Denmark re opened schools last April as did finland.

For wanting to talk about death rates in nordic countries you sure are ignorant to their processes.

Facts for the sea lion

[ChumpDumper]

Facts for the sea lionDid you check the total excess deaths this year for the Nordic countries?

Post those facts.

Or you can hide in your bunker.

[tholdren]

Did you check the total excess deaths this year for the Nordic countries?

Post those facts.

Or you can hide in your bunker.

Lololol facts are facts. Do it by age

You lose

[ChumpDumper]

Lololol facts are facts. Do it by age

You lose:lol you're moving the goalposts before you even post the facts.

Just post the totals and percentage difference for each country this year.

Or hide in your bunker.

[tholdren]

nope facts are facts. Denmark re opened schools last April as did finland.

For wanting to talk about death rates in nordic countries you sure are ignorant to their processes.

Chumpdump meltdown

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump meltdownMan, you really are afraid of those stats.

You are anti-science.

[tholdren]

Man, you really are afraid of those stats.

You are anti-science.

Boom. Copying trolling. Sad sad sad


You were wrong about it all

I was always correct

[ChumpDumper]

Boom. Copying trolling. Sad sad sad


You were wrong about it all

I was always correctWhy are you afraid of those stats?

[tholdren]

Why are you afraid of those stats?

again Mr sea lion

[ChumpDumper]

again Mr sea lion:lol bunker boy

[DarrinS]

:lol bunker boy

Biden?

[ChumpDumper]

Biden?th:lolldren

[tholdren]

No masks in nordic countries except in Denmark Airport

[midnightpulp]

No masks in nordic countries except in Denmark Airport

No deaths in Hawaii today!

Hawaii. They protected their people, like good governments do.

[ChumpDumper]

No masks in nordic countries except in Denmark Airportth:lolldren's bunker meltdown.

[RandomGuy]

masks... airport.... derp... does not compute... nordic... skiing.... corona... does not compute.... swedish math... BZZZZT

:lol

[ElNono]

Boom. Copying trolling. Sad sad sad

You were wrong about it all

I was always correct

Wrong

[tholdren]

Nordic countries state they would take seeden approach in future and retrospect.

ChumpDumper just lost his mind

[tholdren]

The irony is that this was stated in May. So ChumpDumper went full 2 months asking to compare Sweden to other nordic countries......


Just like everything else he was wrong about


2 weeks

[hater]

No masks in nordic countries except in Denmark Airport

Why is Trump pushing for masks then?

[pgardn]

No masks in nordic countries except in Denmark Airport

A huge lie.

[tholdren]

Not until you admit what I said is a fact. The demographics of dying from covid is more like the flu, than the cdc and ChumpDumpers claim that it is more like the kansas flu.. then we can play your riddle games.

Whoops from May

[tholdren]

Why is Trump pushing for masks then?
Same reason biden is

[pgardn]

Nordic countries state they would take seeden approach in future and retrospect.

ChumpDumper just lost his mind

Swedish people are for one of the few times in their history, distrusting their government.
Things are not lovely there. They complied with most of the voluntary measures and it still did not work out as they had hoped.
You are behind and or lying.

[hater]

Same reason biden is

Which is?

[tholdren]

Swedish people are for one of the few times in their history, distrusting their government.
Things are not lovely there. They complied with most of the voluntary measures and it still did not work out as they had hoped.
You are behind and or lying.

Lololol

Pgardn losing his mind and calling fact lies.


BwahahhahagahagagH

[pgardn]

Lololol

Pgardn losing his mind and calling fact lies.


BwahahhahagahagagH

They just had a whole BBC broadcast last night of Sweden assessing its own triumphs and failures.
YOu are a liar.

[pgardn]

Tell us what you got on the Swedish Minister of Health?

What is his assessment of their response since he is under fire?

[ChumpDumper]

Nordic countries state they would take seeden approach in future and retrospect.

ChumpDumper just lost his mindlink it

[ChumpDumper]

The Danish and Swedish economies have been similarly affected by the COVID-19 crisis, despite the different strategies of both countries to face the coronavirus: Denmark was one of the first in closing and opening social and economic life; Sweden opted for a soft tactic.

The latest forecasts made by the European Commission (EC) place both countries among those least affected by the pandemic and estimate that while the Danish Gross Domestic Product (GDP) will fall by 5.2%, the Swedish will do so by 5 , 3%, compared to 8.3% on average for the entire European Union (EU).

Unlike most of Europe, Sweden chose not to close schools, bars, restaurants, or shops, although it imposed restrictions, allowing it a minimum rise of one tenth in its GDP in the first quarter.

Denmark, although it did not confine its population nor did any Nordic country, closed borders, institutions and commerce in mid-March, when it had barely counted one death, and was one of the pioneers in initiating a slow and progressive reopening a month later.

The Danish economy fell 1.9% between January and March, and consumption fell 29% from the beginning of March to the beginning of April, compared to the same period in 2019, compared to 25% in Sweden, according to a study of the University of Copenhagen from data on credit card operations.

But the trend has reversed in the following months, coinciding with the progressive reopening of Danish society: in June, while in Denmark consumption was almost at the level of last year, in Sweden it remained 7% below, according to an analysis of Nordea, the largest Scandinavian bank.

The gap is greater with Norway and Finland, where operations rose 6% year-on-year, and can be understood by the Swedish exceptionality: while its neighbors have reduced infections to a minimum, Sweden still registers about 30 deaths per day and has a death rate by COVID-19 far superior.

https://www.explica.co/covid-19-equally-attacks-the-danish-and-swedish-economies-despite-different-tactics/

Looks bad for th:lolldren.

[ChumpDumper]

Denmark thinks Sweden sucks so badly they still ban Swedes from coming into their country.

Denmark has also now twice made an exception of its neighbor, first opening up to tourists from all the other Nordic countries, but leaving Sweden out, and then last week opening up to tourists from most EU countries, and again excluding Sweden.

The justification is that Sweden — which unlike Denmark did not close schools, bars, restaurants, cafes, shopping malls, or sports clubs when the pandemic hit — has a much higher number of people testing positive for COVID-19.

In its most recent assessment, Denmark's infectious diseases agency, SSI, judged that on average 67 people in Sweden had tested positive for coronavirus per 100,000 inhabitants in the preceding week.

That's a long way from the 20 person per 100,000 threshold Denmark wants countries to be below before their citizens enter the country for leisure purposes.

https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-denmark-coronavirus/a-54009795

th:lolldren

[FrostKing]

Racist Danes. They just want to keep the "new Swedes" out.

[ChumpDumper]

Racist Danes. They just want to keep the "new Swedes" out.Oh look, the Pole makes it about race.

[FrostKing]

Oh look, the Pole makes it about race.
That's my American coming out!

[tholdren]

Denmark thinks Sweden sucks so badly they still ban Swedes from coming into their country.

Denmark has also now twice made an exception of its neighbor, first opening up to tourists from all the other Nordic countries, but leaving Sweden out, and then last week opening up to tourists from most EU countries, and again excluding Sweden.

The justification is that Sweden — which unlike Denmark did not close schools, bars, restaurants, cafes, shopping malls, or sports clubs when the pandemic hit — has a much higher number of people testing positive for COVID-19.

In its most recent assessment, Denmark's infectious diseases agency, SSI, judged that on average 67 people in Sweden had tested positive for coronavirus per 100,000 inhabitants in the preceding week.

That's a long way from the 20 person per 100,000 threshold Denmark wants countries to be below before their citizens enter the country for leisure purposes.

https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-denmark-coronavirus/a-54009795

th:lolldren
Lololol

You just posted that denmark is going to Sweden.


Loloololloool

Your logic.


BwahahhahHhahahahHHhah

Chumpdump just said sweden so much more dangerous than denmark that people from denmark flooding to sweden


/thread

[tholdren]

The Danish and Swedish economies have been similarly affected by the COVID-19 crisis, despite the different strategies of both countries to face the coronavirus: Denmark was one of the first in closing and opening social and economic life; Sweden opted for a soft tactic.

The latest forecasts made by the European Commission (EC) place both countries among those least affected by the pandemic and estimate that while the Danish Gross Domestic Product (GDP) will fall by 5.2%, the Swedish will do so by 5 , 3%, compared to 8.3% on average for the entire European Union (EU).

Unlike most of Europe, Sweden chose not to close schools, bars, restaurants, or shops, although it imposed restrictions, allowing it a minimum rise of one tenth in its GDP in the first quarter.

Denmark, although it did not confine its population nor did any Nordic country, closed borders, institutions and commerce in mid-March, when it had barely counted one death, and was one of the pioneers in initiating a slow and progressive reopening a month later.

The Danish economy fell 1.9% between January and March, and consumption fell 29% from the beginning of March to the beginning of April, compared to the same period in 2019, compared to 25% in Sweden, according to a study of the University of Copenhagen from data on credit card operations.

But the trend has reversed in the following months, coinciding with the progressive reopening of Danish society: in June, while in Denmark consumption was almost at the level of last year, in Sweden it remained 7% below, according to an analysis of Nordea, the largest Scandinavian bank.

The gap is greater with Norway and Finland, where operations rose 6% year-on-year, and can be understood by the Swedish exceptionality: while its neighbors have reduced infections to a minimum, Sweden still registers about 30 deaths per day and has a death rate by COVID-19 far superior.

https://www.explica.co/covid-19-equally-attacks-the-danish-and-swedish-economies-despite-different-tactics/

Looks bad for th:lolldren.
LololI'll this is completely wrong and you didn't read

The explanation for the gap between the two neighbors, both with open economies in which the merchandise sold abroad accounts for more than half of their GDP, lies in the nature of their exports, rather than in national economic measures

[ChumpDumper]

Lololol

You just posted that denmark is going to Sweden.


Loloololloool

Your logic.


BwahahhahHhahahahHHhah

Chumpdump just said sweden so much more dangerous than denmark that people from denmark flooding to sweden


/threadth:lolldren in denial

[tholdren]

bwahahahahahahah

Chumpdump tried to prove me wrong and just was more wrong than before.


This always happens.

No mask mandate in nordic countries

Science

[ChumpDumper]

LololI'll this is completely wrong and you didn't read

The explanation for the gap between the two neighbors, both with open economies in which the merchandise sold abroad accounts for more than half of their GDP, lies in the nature of their exports, rather than in national economic measures

/th:loldren

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahahahahah

Chumpdump tried to prove me wrong and just was more wrong than before.


This always happens.

No mask mandate in nordic countries

ScienceYou just tried to move your goalpost from "no policy" to "no mandate."

You just admitted you're wrong.

This always happens.

/th:lolldren

[tholdren]

bwahahahahahahah

Chumpdump tried to prove me wrong and just was more wrong than before.


This always happens.

No mask mandate in nordic countries

Science

Lol ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

Lol ChumpDumperWhy did you move your goalpost from "no policy" to "no mandate"?

:lol this question is gonna make you hide in your bunker again.

[tholdren]

chumpdump so triggered by the truth he feels the need to lie and try to investigate whereabouts of posters and when and how often they post.

Extremely creepy

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump so triggered by the truth he feels the need to lie and try to investigate whereabouts of posters and when and how often they post.

Extremely creepyWhy did you move your goalpost from "no policy" to "no mandate"?

Your hiding in the bunker for three months is a matter of record.:lol

[tholdren]

Why did you move your goalpost from "no policy" to "no mandate"?

chumpdump with the deflection . No public policy. Enjoy.

Creepy posting stalker

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump with the deflection . No public policy. Enjoy.:lmao You posted Denmark's policy.

[Blake]

".....Across the North Sea, however, Sweden continued to pursue an approach with the potential to achieve herd immunity — though the government never stated it as a goal. Swedish authorities recommended taking precautions at an individual level and banned gatherings of more than 50 people, but the nation stopped short of ordering restaurants and bars closed. In April, the Swedish ambassador boasted that Stockholm might achieve herd immunity by the end of May.

That never happened, Sridhar says. "Sweden is stuck at 6% for months now," she says, in reference to the percentage of residents who have antibodies to the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the country has suffered economic devastation and far higher death rates than its Nordic neighbors.

The main reason herd immunity hasn't been achieved, she suspects, is that to get there, many millions of Swedes would have to catch COVID-19. That could happen in the abstract, but in reality, most individuals deliberately try their hardest to avoid contracting the disease. "Nobody wants to be part of the herd," she says...."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/24/894148860/without-a-vaccine-researchers-say-herd-immunity-may-never-be-achieved

[tholdren]

:lmao You posted Denmark's policy.
Yep no general public mandate. Only europe aviation policy enacted june 15.

Masks work so well in airport not needed in bars.

Lololol

Chumpdump

[ChumpDumper]

Yep no general public mandate.Why did you move your goalpost?

[tholdren]

Why did you move your goalpost?

I didn't

[ChumpDumper]

I didn'tYou did.

Why?

[tholdren]

You did.

Why?

I didn't

[ChumpDumper]

I didn'tYou did, ducks.

Why?

[tholdren]

You did, ducks.

Why?

I didnt

[ChumpDumper]

I didntSure you did.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump still can't admit Denmark doesn't mandate masks in public. Just wait for terrible deflecting reply.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump still can't admit Denmark doesn't mandate masks in public. Just wait for terrible deflecting reply.:lol your goalpost move straight to a straw man

To put it in terms you can understand, you lie.

[tholdren]

Chumpdump still can't admit Denmark doesn't mandate masks in public. Just wait for terrible deflecting reply.

See above loll

[ChumpDumper]

See above lollYep, you lied again.:lol

[tholdren]

Cdc yet another flip flop fail
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover

[tholdren]

sweden under 10 deaths per day since july


Success

[ChumpDumper]

sweden under 10 deaths per day since july


Success:lmao

[midnightpulp]

sweden under 10 deaths per day since july


Success

What about Denmark and Norway?

Denmark has been under 5 deaths since mid-May.
Norway has been under 5 deaths since April.

THAT is success.

[DarrinS]

Sweden crushed it like NYC did.

[tholdren]

Sweden crushed it like NYC did.

But 3x less

[ElNono]

But 3x less

wrong

[tholdren]

Sweden's policy a success says Denmark

[pgardn]

Sweden's policy a success says Denmark


^^^^
*crinkle; trash*


Oh hell.

That seals the deal.
Especially when Swedes are protesting their governments handling of the disease.
No country has handled this to perfection.

[ChumpDumper]

Sweden's policy a success says DenmarkGossip.

[tholdren]

Sweden's policy a success says Denmark

facts
And no masks facts

[ChumpDumper]

facts Gossip.

[boutons_deux]

confirmed deaths per Scandinavian country

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=DNK~FIN~SWE~NOR&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[tholdren]

confirmed deaths per Scandinavian country

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=DNK~FIN~SWE~NOR&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Now do how they count covid deaths. Bet you won't

[tholdren]

Now do how they count covid deaths. Bet you won't

Knew it. I'm right again

[ChumpDumper]

Bet you'll never show your math.

[tholdren]

Bet you'll never show your math.

I have already posted how each nordic country counts death all but sweden make sure to count death from not with covid. Smart because then you can measure how effective policy is.

The usa just going straight Ferguson modeling. Its ignorance and is proven because usa still can't accurately count covid presence. All they can do is hype the ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

Inever show your math.

lol

[tholdren]

I have already posted how each nordic country counts death all but sweden make sure to count death from not with covid. Smart because then you can measure how effective policy is.

The usa just going straight Ferguson modeling. Its ignorance and is proven because usa still can't accurately count covid presence. All they can do is hype the ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

:cryYou never show your math.

You never provide links.

You lie and gossip.

You meltdown.

You hide in your bunker.

lol you

[tholdren]

I have already posted how each nordic country counts death all but sweden make sure to count death from not with covid. Smart because then you can measure how effective policy is.

The usa just going straight Ferguson modeling. Its ignorance and is proven because usa still can't accurately count covid presence. All they can do is hype the ChumpDumper

Chumpdump meltdown

[ChumpDumper]

:cryth:lolldren meltdown

[Blake]

Bet you'll never show your math.

Right again

[tholdren]

I have already posted how each nordic country counts death all but sweden make sure to count death from not with covid. Smart because then you can measure how effective policy is.

The usa just going straight Ferguson modeling. Its ignorance and is proven because usa still can't accurately count covid presence. All they can do is hype the ChumpDumper

bonkers!

[ChumpDumper]

bonkers!th:lolldren meltdown

[tholdren]

Success

[ElNono]

Success

wrong

[tholdren]

wrong

Annual fatality on sweeden looking approximately in line with previous years..... success

[ElNono]

Annual fatality on sweeden looking approximately in line with previous years..... success

gossip

[Blake]

Annual fatality on sweeden looking approximately in line with previous years..... success

Lol "sweeden"

[ChumpDumper]

Annual fatality on sweeden looking approximately in line with previous years..... successWrong.

[RandomGuy]

Wrong.

"approximately" :Lol
https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/


2016 90982 deaths
2017 91972 deaths
2018--92185 deaths
2019--88766 deaths
Remarkably stable. This is how things normally work Variances of 2 to 3 percent.

2020 to july 17--56408 deaths

Jan 1 to Jul 17 is 198 days.

198/365 =.5424658

56408 should equal 54.24658% of the years fatalities, assuming a fairly stable death rate for all years between days/months.

56408/.5424658= 103984 on an annualized basis.

This represents a 17% jump in deaths over the previous year.

Math shown. Source link shown. f:lolldren

[midnightpulp]

They lost. Many people also claim that Sweden "won" because they didn't lockdown like Italy, Spain, and other hard hit countries who had a similar death rate. But in creating my plot, those hard hit countries actually didn't enact measures soon enough and ramped up lockdown efforts too late to crush the curve.

[tholdren]

They lost. Many people also claim that Sweden "won" because they didn't lockdown like Italy, Spain, and other hard hit countries who had a similar death rate. But in creating my plot, those hard hit countries actually didn't enact measures soon enough and ramped up lockdown efforts too late to crush the curve.

BeahahahhahahahahahHHhHahHahHH

This is gold.

A scatterplot.

Beahahahhahahahahahhahajahahahhajahaahhaha

Used to link correlation with causation.


Bwahahhahahahahahahahhaha

[tholdren]

"approximately" :Lol
https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/


2016 90982 deaths
2017 91972 deaths
2018--92185 deaths
2019--88766 deaths
Remarkably stable. This is how things normally work Variances of 2 to 3 percent.

2020 to july 17--56408 deaths

Jan 1 to Jul 17 is 198 days.

198/365 =.5424658

56408 should equal 54.24658% of the years fatalities, assuming a fairly stable death rate for all years between days/months.

56408/.5424658= 103984 on an annualized basis.

This represents a 17% jump in deaths over the previous year.

Math shown. Source link shown. f:lolldren

bqahahahhahahahahahhaha trying to identify trend and probability by simply dividing.



Bwahahahahahhshshshshhshshshshshshshhs

You and midnightpulp are hysterical

[midnightpulp]

BeahahahhahahahahahHHhHahHahHH

This is gold.

A scatterplot.

Beahahahhahahahahahhahajahahahhajahaahhaha

Used to link correlation with causation.


Bwahahhahahahahahahahhaha

.75 correlation coefficient. STRONG

[tholdren]

.75 correlation coefficient. STRONG

Beahahahhahahahahahhajaha

You dont understand statistics

The basic concept that observations do not = causation is a mathematical fact that you and RandomGuy do not understand.

Lol your math

[RandomGuy]

.75 correlation coefficient. STRONG

It is the strongest, most beautiful coefficient ever. People are saying they have never seen such a strong correlation coefficient. Democrats hate strong correlation coefficients, they want to take them away, because I will use them to build the wall. Man woman camera correlation coefficient tv

[tholdren]

Wwahhaahahahahhahahahahah bump for RandomGuy not knowing what to say to make midnightpulp feel secure in his chart.


Wahahahahahahahah

[tholdren]

The Health Agency of Sweden says that since hitting a peak in late June, the infection rate has fallen sharply. That’s amid an increase in testing over the period. “The curves are going down and the curves for the seriously ill are beginning to approach zero,” Tegnell said

The development follows months of controversy over Sweden’s decision to avoid a full lockdown. The unusual strategy coincided with a much higher Covid-19 mortality rate than elsewhere in the Nordic region. Per 100,000, Swedish deaths even exceeded those in the U.S. and Brazil.

On Tuesday, Sweden reported two new deaths, bringing the total to 5,702.
Tegnell also broached the subject of face masks, which the World Health Organization recommends people use when social distancing isn’t possible.

“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport,” he said.

Tegnell has consistently argued that Sweden’s approach is more sustainable than the sudden lockdowns imposed elsewhere. With the risk that Covid-19 might be around for years, he says completely shutting down society isn’t a long-term option

[midnightpulp]

The Health Agency of Sweden says that since hitting a peak in late June, the infection rate has fallen sharply. That’s amid an increase in testing over the period. “The curves are going down and the curves for the seriously ill are beginning to approach zero,” Tegnell said

The development follows months of controversy over Sweden’s decision to avoid a full lockdown. The unusual strategy coincided with a much higher Covid-19 mortality rate than elsewhere in the Nordic region. Per 100,000, Swedish deaths even exceeded those in the U.S. and Brazil.

On Tuesday, Sweden reported two new deaths, bringing the total to 5,702.
Tegnell also broached the subject of face masks, which the World Health Organization recommends people use when social distancing isn’t possible.

“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport,” he said.

Tegnell has consistently argued that Sweden’s approach is more sustainable than the sudden lockdowns imposed elsewhere. With the risk that Covid-19 might be around for years, he says completely shutting down society isn’t a long-term option

They "lost."

https://i.imgur.com/DsSQXYz.png

And their tail is fatter than Denmark, Norway, and Germany.

[Blake]

The unusual strategy coincided with a much higher Covid-19 mortality rate than elsewhere in the Nordic region. Per 100,000, Swedish deaths even exceeded those in the U.S. and Brazil.

Success!

[tholdren]

They "lost."

https://i.imgur.com/DsSQXYz.png

And their tail is fatter than Denmark, Norway, and Germany.

They won. Or the other nordic countries wouldn't have said so.

Your graph will be incomplete for years based on lockdown incurred deatg and illness. Sweden will not have that. And by the end of the year their annual death rate will be known.

Enjoy

[ChumpDumper]

They won. Or the other nordic countries wouldn't have said so.They didn't.

[Blake]

They won. Or the other nordic countries wouldn't have said so.

Your graph will be incomplete for years based on lockdown incurred deatg and illness. Sweden will not have that. And by the end of the year their annual death rate will be known.

Enjoy


The unusual strategy coincided with a much higher Covid-19 mortality rate than elsewhere in the Nordic region. Per 100,000, Swedish deaths even exceeded those in the U.S. and Brazil.

Tholdren thinks higher death rate = winning

[tholdren]

Tholdren thinks higher death rate = winning

Blake doesn't understand statistical analysis.

[tholdren]

Per the Dutch govt

Masks not science
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24U2UJ

[ChumpDumper]

Per the Dutch govt

Masks not science
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24U2UJBut they're still required in airports and on public transport.:lol

[tholdren]

But they're still required in airports and on public transport.:lol

Wednesday said it will not advise the public to wear masks to slow the spread of coronavirus, asserting that their effectiveness has not been proven

[tholdren]

strange they say no scientific proof but fauci says scientific..... who do you believe.

The guy who has lied to the public multiple times or the govt who has not....?

[ChumpDumper]

Wednesday said it will not advise the public to wear masks to slow the spread of coronavirus, asserting that their effectiveness has not been provenMask are currently required only on public transportation in the Netherlands and in airports.:lol

[tholdren]

Mask are currently required only on public transportation in the Netherlands and in airports.:lol
So you agree that its not scientific to wear masks.

[ChumpDumper]

So you agree that its not scientific to wear masks.th:lolldren swerves into straw

[tholdren]

th:lolldren swerves into straw

bwahahahahahhahahahHH

They said it. You said the opposite. Which is it mr flip flop

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahahahahhahahahHH

They said it. You said the opposite. Which is it mr flip flopThey require masks on public transport and in airports.

You said they don't require masks at all.

You lied.

You lost.

You're going to meltdown.

lol

[tholdren]

They require masks on public transport and in airports.

You said they don't require masks at all.

You lied.

You lost.

You're going to meltdown.

lol
I was right ifr lower than flu for healthy. /covid

[ChumpDumper]

I was right ifr lower than flu for healthy. /covidno math scared goalpost move gossip lie /th:lolldren

[midnightpulp]

I was right ifr lower than flu for healthy. /covid

show your math

[tholdren]

show your math

Director od Cdc just said school age risk of mortality 1 in a million. /thread

[tholdren]

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said today that a child is 6 to 13 times more likely to die from influenza than from COVID-19, and that school closures that began in the spring led to significant public health problems for the nation's children, including worsening mental health and increasing hunger.

[ChumpDumper]

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said today that a child is 6 to 13 times more likely to die from influenza than from COVID-19, and that school closures that began in the spring led to significant public health problems for the nation's children, including worsening mental health and increasing hunger.futuregossip

[tholdren]

futuregossip

Lololol I've been right all along. Told you

[ChumpDumper]

Lololol I've been right all along. Told youWrong.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/cdc-urges-person-learning-schools

[midnightpulp]

Director od Cdc just said school age risk of mortality 1 in a million. /thread

You said for all healthy age groups not school age children.

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/cdc-urges-person-learning-schoolsThree weeks after Governor Greg Abbott issued a statewide mask mandate, some epidemiologists are cautiously optimistic the order is helping to bring down cases in Texas, according to the Texas Tribune.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You said for all healthy age groups not school age children.th:lolldren moves his goalpost after he gets caught lying.

Which is every time.

[tholdren]

You said for all healthy age groups not school age children.

And I'm correct. I thought it would be lower than flu not 13 times lower.


Lololoool


Thanks for that

[tholdren]

And I'm correct. I thought it would be lower than flu not 13 times lower.


Lololoool


Thanks for that

Beahahahaahahaaha

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632503533015041

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632506431287296

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632508683665408

rest of the thread is an interesting dive into all cause deaths

[tholdren]

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632503533015041

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632506431287296

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632508683665408

rest of the thread is an interesting dive into all cause deaths

Shocking. Unless you actually research instead of gossip.

[midnightpulp]

rest of the thread is an interesting dive into all cause deaths

Sorry to say, buddy, but this guy is another truther. His own graph pretty much defeats his argument. Let's look.

https://i.imgur.com/Koym5i0.png

We can see Sweden (light blue) exceeded their all cause mortality vs. the previous year, while the Nordics matched it or even beat their previous all cause mortality figures. You really don't want to go too far back in comparing all cause mortality figures because different flu strains with varying levels of lethality appear in different years. Not to mention how treatments improve each year for various illnesses. This is why the all cause mortality baseline is usually projected rather than averaged from prior years (meaning his graph in picture 2 is useless). Here's the all cause mortality figures from Euromomo. We can see Sweden is almost 3 times above the "substantial increase" baseline, while the other Nordics kept all cause below that line.

https://i.imgur.com/H7F0CMq.png

Ain't trying to pick on you, but these truthers (Gato Malo made Zorin's "bad info" list) cleverly use tricks (example here is devising the all cause baseline by averaging deaths from prior years) for the purpose of downplaying or endorsing a mitigation strategy.

[TSA]

Sorry to say, buddy, but this guy is another truther. His own graph pretty much defeats his argument. Let's look.

https://i.imgur.com/Koym5i0.png

We can see Sweden (light blue) exceeded their all cause mortality vs. the previous year, while the Nordics matched it or even beat their previous all cause mortality figures. You really don't want to go too far back in comparing all cause mortality figures because different flu strains with varying levels of lethality appear in different years. Not to mention how treatments improve each year for various illnesses. This is why the all cause mortality baseline is usually projected rather than averaged from prior years (meaning his graph in picture 2 is useless). Here's the all cause mortality figures from Euromomo. We can see Sweden is almost 3 times above the "substantial increase" baseline, while the other Nordics kept all cause below that line.

https://i.imgur.com/H7F0CMq.png

Ain't trying to pick on you, but these truthers (Gato Malo made Zorin's "bad info" list) cleverly use tricks (example here is devising the all cause baseline by averaging deaths from prior years) for the purpose of downplaying or endorsing a mitigation strategy.

touches on the prior flu further in the thread for year prior being low

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632510583693312

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1277632514098712576

I've been trying with no luck to find a recent article I read earlier about how last year's flu season whether mild or extreme was the greatest indicator on how many deaths a country would experience with Covid.