"Muh Sweden."

[DMC]

:lol shits on a Stanford biophysicist and Nobel Laureate
:lol immediately links to a professional blogger's thoughts on the subject
:rollin

:lmao Jethro's Cipher School

Let's see, naught times naught is naught
Naught times one is naught

So 20M sounds about right

[pgardn]

:lmao Jethro's Cipher School

Let's see, naught times naught is naught
Naught times one is naught

So 20M sounds about right

Oh exactly.
Grandmas cough syrup is now in full effect.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump supporters are steadily losing their minds here.

[midnightpulp]

Took a bit of a layoff. See this thread has grown in replies. :lol at ANYONE defending Sweden's dumbass strategy. The best comparison isn't them vs. the US or any US state, but their neighbors (similar healthcare systems, weather, density, population health, etc), and they massively failed vs. Norway and Denmark. 5x higher per capita death rate than Denmark and 10x that of Norway. And no, they didn't save their economy relative to other countries.


But the country is facing the same economic battering as other nations - with a similarly grim financial outlook, according to experts.
Despite shops and bars being allowed to stay open, data on the use of public transport, credit cards and restaurants show massive drops, the FT reports.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11595727/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-mass-unemployment-economic-chaos/


The government expects the economy to shrink around 7% this year and already launched a stimulus package worth around SEK 245 billion to boost the recovery.

https://i.imgur.com/CJ5tN83.png
https://i.imgur.com/xYBd6L5.png

[spurraider21]

welcome back mid

[midnightpulp]

welcome back mid

Thanks. Chilled out from online political discussions while the Floyd debacle was happening. Incidents like that are never discussed rationally and I just wind up getting irritated.

[spurraider21]

Thanks. Chilled out from online political discussions while the Floyd debacle was happening. Incidents like that are never discussed rationally and I just wind up getting irritated.
thought you got the rona

pretty alarmist of me tbh :lol

[midnightpulp]

thought you got the rona

pretty alarmist of me tbh :lol

Not yet. But they've opened up the casinos full stop in your old home. Morongo, Penchanga, Manuel, etc. My parents are gamers, and some dipshit sneezed sans mask (because smoking) in the vicinity of my mom. I tweeted at Manuel, and lo and behold, they have banned smoking indoors. Their idiotic policy prior was to allow mask removal inside for smoking. A stupid policy for obvious reasons.

[hater]

Sweden opening up a probe on their handling of the virus.

This is serious shit as their probes are actually real not like american fake bullshit probes

[RandomGuy]

Don't listen to this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Levitt

Listen to this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_deBronkart

:lmao

You suck at this.

Michael Levitt is wrong because he hasn't produced any peer-reviewed papers that support his assertions, and the peer-reviewed evidence I found actively disputed his assertion. He

Dave deBronkart is pointing out something he observed. I have yet to find fault in his reasoning, but he is most definitely not an expert, nor has he produced any peer-reviewed science on the subject.

Feel free to post something about the arguments though. I have yet to see anything other than "LOL" ad hominem.

[ChumpDumper]

Were basically Sweden now. Fortunately treatments have improved but we're still doing fuck all to protect the vulnerable.

[RandomGuy]

Were basically Sweden now. Fortunately treatments have improved but we're still doing fuck all to protect the vulnerable.

Nah. We are doing worse than the swedes. Looks like we are simply pretending the pandemic doesn't exist. Seen more reports of business as usual in restaurants and bars. In about two weeks its going to get ugly once the people that get it now get to the point where the disease kills.

Entirely predictable. Entirely avoidable.

[tholdren]

Discussion
Statement of principal findings
This individual-based modelling project predicts that with the current mitigation approach
approximately 96,000 deaths (95% CI 52,000 to 183,000) can be expected before 1 July, 2020.
At the peak period (early May), the need for ICU beds will be at least 40-fold higher than the
pre-pandemic ICU-bed capacity, not considering ICU admissions for other conditions.


Lol this epidemiologist modeling for sweden. Lolol

Chumpdump

[tholdren]

lol peer reviewd paper above. Lllolo

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren lies and runs away when he's called on it.

[tholdren]

96k deaths by July no lockdowns... wrong.....

[ChumpDumper]

[latest deflection]Why do you have to lie all the time? Is it because you never went pro?

[tholdren]

chumpdump lol trying to defelct beahahahahah trying to use insults to avoid facts. Bwahahahhahah he believed the modeling.


96k deaths. Completely wrong

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump lol trying to defelct beahahahahah trying to use insults to avoid facts. Bwahahahhahah he believed the modeling.


96k deaths. Completely wrongth:loldren lies again after going shopping.

Why do you always lie?

[tholdren]

th:loldren lies again after going shopping.

bwahahhahahahahh this is the rebuttal to epidemiology models. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

bwahahhahahahahh this is the rebuttal to epidemiology models. LolNo need to rebut anything you say.

You proved you lie by hiding in your bunker when you got called out.

:lmao

[tholdren]

No need to rebut anything you say.

You proved you lie by hiding in your bunker when you got called out.

:lmao

bwahabahabbaha same thing. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

bwahabahabbaha same thing. LolYep, you've done the same thing for months: lie.

Why?

[tholdren]

He can't even put together a logical argument. ChumpDumper lol

[ChumpDumper]

He can't even put together a logical argument. ChumpDumper lol:lol meltdown

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/hagenbaden/status/1279023691083497472

Looks like Sweden is finally in the clear.

[tholdren]

but but but lockdowns

[tholdren]

l new sweden stats.. but lockdowns.



Lol ChumpDumper

[midnightpulp]

but but but lockdowns

Um, Demark and Norway locked down and have a 5x and 10x less death rate. And no, Swedens strategy didn't mitigate the economic damage vs. Those countries. The economic projections are about the same.

[tholdren]

Um, Demark and Norway locked down and have a 5x and 10x less death rate. And no, Swedens strategy didn't mitigate the economic damage vs. Those countries. The economic projections are about the same.

dont count death the same.... good try

[midnightpulp]

dont count death the same.... good try

Keep deflecting with the "with/from" fallacy, if that's what you're implying.

[tholdren]

Keep deflecting with the "with/from" fallacy, if that's what you're implying.
1. That's extremely stupid if thats your rebuttal
2. That's not the point.

[midnightpulp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/hagenbaden/status/1279023691083497472

Looks like Sweden is finally in the clear.

"In the clear" when their case rate exploded over the last month. :lol.

This is "in the clear."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/

"B-But their deaths and ICU rates are down."

Good stuff. But that has nothing to with Sweden's policy and more to do with the probable theory that the virus might have mutated into a less lethal strain, something Sweden would not have known when they encouraged their dumbass policy. We're watching the same thing happen here. Exploding cases and positive rates in regions like FL, TX, and AZ, but, so far, the death rate has remained manageable. That said, those regions aren't seeing reductions in ICU usage and hospitalizations like Sweden. My theory here vs. Sweden is because the average US adult is considerably less healthy than the average Swede, with beetus, 'besity, and such being prevalent in all age groups over 25. This is also a reason the Swedish strategy can't work here. But it didn't work in the first place. Norway and Denmark handled their outbreaks far better. There's no more arguing about this. The Swedish strategy was fucktarded (and DIDN'T limit the economic damage vs. their counterparts).

And the fact the case rate is still as high as it's ever been means they're nowhere near herd immunity. Dollars to donuts their 2nd wave in the fall won't be much better than Nor and Den.

[midnightpulp]

1. That's extremely stupid if thats your rebuttal
2. That's not the point.

That's the only "way" you can inflate the death count, coding deaths as with/from Covid. Dumbass skeptics, such as yourself, believe hospitals were coding everything from car accident deaths to Islamic beheadings as "died of Covid." The thing is, if Covid turned a manageable heart condition into a heart attack, fuck yes, you died of Covid.

And we don't even need to examine data that specifies Covid deaths. We can just look at the excess death rate from all causes. Sweden's spike over the pandemic was considerably higher than Denmark and Norway.

https://i.imgur.com/esAZIbB.png

This debate is over. Anyone promoting the Swedish strategy was wrong, from all the "Team Reality" (Ginn, Hart, Berenson, etc) morons on twitter who keep fuckin' doubling down to MAGA hat wearing retards saying, "muh Sweden."

[DarrinS]

"In the clear" when their case rate exploded over the last month. :lol.

This is "in the clear."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/

"B-But their deaths and ICU rates are down."

Good stuff. But that has nothing to with Sweden's policy and more to do with the probable theory that the virus might have mutated into a less lethal strain, something Sweden would not have known when they encouraged their dumbass policy. We're watching the same thing happen here. Exploding cases and positive rates in regions like FL, TX, and AZ, but, so far, the death rate has remained manageable. That said, those regions aren't seeing reductions in ICU usage and hospitalizations like Sweden. My theory here vs. Sweden is because the average US adult is considerably less healthy than the average Swede, with beetus, 'besity, and such being prevalent in all age groups over 25. This is also a reason the Swedish strategy can't work here. But it didn't work in the first place. Norway and Denmark handled their outbreaks far better. There's no more arguing about this. The Swedish strategy was fucktarded (and DIDN'T limit the economic damage vs. their counterparts).

And the fact the case rate is still as high as it's ever been means they're nowhere near herd immunity. Dollars to donuts their 2nd wave in the fall won't be much better than Nor and Den.

Yeah, we have a serious problem with our population, considering how many Americans are fat fucks with diabetes, hypertension, etc.

[tholdren]

"In the clear" when their case rate exploded over the last month. :lol.

This is "in the clear."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/

"B-But their deaths and ICU rates are down."

Good stuff. But that has nothing to with Sweden's policy and more to do with the probable theory that the virus might have mutated into a less lethal strain, something Sweden would not have known when they encouraged their dumbass policy. We're watching the same thing happen here. Exploding cases and positive rates in regions like FL, TX, and AZ, but, so far, the death rate has remained manageable. That said, those regions aren't seeing reductions in ICU usage and hospitalizations like Sweden. My theory here vs. Sweden is because the average US adult is considerably less healthy than the average Swede, with beetus, 'besity, and such being prevalent in all age groups over 25. This is also a reason the Swedish strategy can't work here. But it didn't work in the first place. Norway and Denmark handled their outbreaks far better. There's no more arguing about this. The Swedish strategy was fucktarded (and DIDN'T limit the economic damage vs. their counterparts).

And the fact the case rate is still as high as it's ever been means they're nowhere near herd immunity. Dollars to donuts their 2nd wave in the fall won't be much better than Nor and Den.

No

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, we have a serious problem with our population, considering how many Americans are fat fucks with diabetes, hypertension, etc.

And it still boggles my fuckin' mind this virus is being politicized.

"Hurr durr, Dems and Libruls wanna lockdown to crash the economy to hurt Trump and limit our Freedumbs."

If the whole country locked down HARD in mid-March for 3 months, the economy would be pretty much open right now and Trump would be a shoe-in for reelection.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-shut-out-coronavirus-reopening-by-finland-norway-denmark-2020-6

And now wearing a mask is being politicized. This country deserves what it gets.

[tholdren]

And it still boggles my fuckin' mind this virus is being politicized.

"Hurr durr, Dems and Libruls wanna lockdown to crash the economy to hurt Trump and limit our Freedumbs."

If the whole country locked down HARD in mid-March for 3 months, the economy would be pretty much open right now and Trump would be a shoe-in for reelection.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-shut-out-coronavirus-reopening-by-finland-norway-denmark-2020-6

And now wearing a mask is being politicized. This country deserves what it gets.
The reason is due to lack of transparency with data. Media sensatalism over ruling math and science

[ChumpDumper]

sensatalismlol

[tholdren]

lol

Grammar and spelling police!!!


Thanks for the alert officer

[DarrinS]

And it still boggles my fuckin' mind this virus is being politicized.

"Hurr durr, Dems and Libruls wanna lockdown to crash the economy to hurt Trump and limit our Freedumbs."

If the whole country locked down HARD in mid-March for 3 months, the economy would be pretty much open right now and Trump would be a shoe-in for reelection.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-shut-out-coronavirus-reopening-by-finland-norway-denmark-2020-6

And now wearing a mask is being politicized. This country deserves what it gets.


I still see young people hanging out together like this is not a thing.

[ChumpDumper]

Grammar and spelling police!!!


Thanks for the alert officerth:lolldren mad

[tholdren]

th:lolldren mad
Nope happy you are helping my spelling. Whew

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.clipartkey.com/mpngs/m/182-1827781_troll-face-meme-angry-happy-mad-mask-fake.pngNope happy you are helping my spelling. Whew

[tholdren]

Is that a youre welcome?

[ChumpDumper]

youre:lmao

[midnightpulp]

The reason is due to lack of transparency with data. Media sensatalism over ruling math and science

Oh, you mean like the Florida data scientist who was ordered to fudge the numbers to make Florida's situation look better?

Also, that is why I linked you the all-cause deaths from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. Sweden's all cause mortality skyrocketed vs. the other two. Now I supposed you're going to suggest they (along with the entire world) are manipulating all-cause mortality to take away our Freedumbs?

[DarrinS]

Oh, you mean like the Florida data scientist who was ordered to fudge the numbers to make Florida's situation look better?

Also, that is why I linked you the all-cause deaths from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. Sweden's all cause mortality skyrocketed vs. the other two. Now I supposed you're going to suggest they (along with the entire world) are manipulating all-cause mortality to take away our Freedumbs?

You should look into that situation more carefully.

[midnightpulp]

You should look into that situation more carefully.

Fair enough, she doesn't credible. But what always bothered me about FL's data is their resistance to release hospitalization data until just recently, so my spidey sense was tingling. I'm trying to find an all-cause mortality rate for them, but can't thus far. And they ain't looking so hot wrt hospital visits.

https://i.imgur.com/LozAKzW.png

[tholdren]

:lmao

Lol ChumpDumper the spelling and grammar police doesn't know differece between you're and your.... sad his only talent

[tholdren]

Oh, you mean like the Florida data scientist who was ordered to fudge the numbers to make Florida's situation look better?

Also, that is why I linked you the all-cause deaths from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. Sweden's all cause mortality skyrocketed vs. the other two. Now I supposed you're going to suggest they (along with the entire world) are manipulating all-cause mortality to take away our Freedumbs?

1. https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/05/20/rebekah-jones-firing-is-the-covid-clickbait-the-media-dreams-of-but-its-all-fake/#comments

2. Fatalities counted differently ChumpDumper. I already told you

[tholdren]

Fair enough, she doesn't credible. But what always bothered me about FL's data is their resistance to release hospitalization data until just recently, so my spidey sense was tingling. I'm trying to find an all-cause mortality rate for them, but can't thus far. And they ain't looking so hot wrt hospital visits.

https://i.imgur.com/LozAKzW.png

spider sense? Go away

[tholdren]

florida data not released due to icu being set-up for all covid patients no matter severity and for isolated nosocomial reasons. Then these were coded, based on govt regulations as icu covid cases.

Now hospitals are being forced to use legit numbers by DeSantis. Fake news getting squashed

[midnightpulp]

1. https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/05/20/rebekah-jones-firing-is-the-covid-clickbait-the-media-dreams-of-but-its-all-fake/#comments

2. Fatalities counted differently ChumpDumper. I already told you

I already conceded to Darrin she's not credible.

You don't appear to understand the graph I linked. Those aren't Covid deaths. They are ALL CAUSE deaths, so you "can't count fatalities" differently in that case. Sweden saw more all cause deaths in that window than their neighbors, so something was killing them at a higher rate. Hmmm? Wonder that was?

Boiled down, lockdowns work, Covid is deadlier that the flu, wear a fuckin mask.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol ChumpDumper the spelling and grammar police doesn't know differece between you're and your.... sad his only talent


Is that a youre welcome?:rollin

[tholdren]

I already conceded to Darrin she's not credible.

You don't appear to understand the graph I linked. Those aren't Covid deaths. They are ALL CAUSE deaths, so you "can't count fatalities" differently in that case. Sweden saw more all cause deaths in that window than their neighbors, so something was killing them at a higher rate. Hmmm? Wonder that was?

Boiled down, lockdowns work, Covid is deadlier that the flu, wear a fuckin mask.

No they don't. All cause converged with covid deaths weeks ago. Learn math

[tholdren]

:rollin

Yep you said your welcome. Call yourself on yourself

[tholdren]

In my view, the true herd immunity threshold probably lies somewhere between the 7% and 24% implied by the cases illustrated in Figures 4 and 5. If it were around 17%, which evidence from Stockholm County suggests the resulting fatalities from infections prior to the HIT being reached should be a very low proportion of the population. The Stockholm infection fatality rate appears to be approximately 0.4%,[20] considerably lower than per the Verity et al.[21] estimates used in Ferguson20, with a fatality rate of under 0.1% from infections until the HIT was reached. The fatality rate to reach the HIT in less densely populated areas should be lower, because R0 is positively related to population density.[22] Accordingly, total fatalities should be well under 0.1% of the population by the time herd immunity is achieved. Although there would be subsequent further fatalities, as the epidemic shrinks it should be increasingly practicable to hasten its end by using testing and contact tracing to prevent infections spreading, and thus substantially reduce the number of further fatalities below those projected by the SEIR model in a totally unmitigated scenario.

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren still afraid to post any links to his gossip

[ChumpDumper]

Yep you said your welcome. Call yourself on yourselflook again at your post :lol

[tholdren]

look again at your post :lol

You said your welcome. Hilarious

[ChumpDumper]

You said your welcome. Hilarious
:lmao you still don't see it. You are not smart.

[tholdren]

:lmao you still don't see it. You are not smart.
I didn't care to look. You chose to be the grammar spelling police, not me

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't care to look. You chose to be the grammar spelling police, not me:lol you don't even know what you're melting down about.

[Splits]

https://i.imgur.com/mMmo2EC.png

[tholdren]

https://i.imgur.com/mMmo2EC.png

bwahahaaha #winning

[tholdren]

Sweden

[boutons_deux]

Lack of lockdown increased COVID-19 deaths in Sweden
Sweden's controversial decision not to lock down during COVID-19 produced more deaths and greater healthcare demand than seen in countries with earlier, more stringent interventions

Sweden's unusual approach also saw fewer patients admitted to intensive-care units than expected. But the country has seen a higher percentage of deaths in older patients outside ICUs than other countries when ICU beds were not limited. That suggests health authorities there have considered patients' chances of recovery in deciding who receives access to intensive care,

"Higher levels of individual action would further suppress the infection,

while a complete lack of individual action would likely have led to runaway infection," :lol USA USA USA

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/uovh-lol070320.php

[tholdren]

Lack of lockdown increased COVID-19 deaths in Sweden
Sweden's controversial decision not to lock down during COVID-19 produced more deaths and greater healthcare demand than seen in countries with earlier, more stringent interventions

Sweden's unusual approach also saw fewer patients admitted to intensive-care units than expected. But the country has seen a higher percentage of deaths in older patients outside ICUs than other countries when ICU beds were not limited. That suggests health authorities there have considered patients' chances of recovery in deciding who receives access to intensive care,

"Higher levels of individual action would further suppress the infection,

while a complete lack of individual action would likely have led to runaway infection," :lol USA USA USA

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/uovh-lol070320.php

From the same study...
Sweden is perhaps the most prominent example of mitigation -- limiting the extent of socially and economically disruptive interventions while still aiming to slow spread and allow for an effective medical response," the researchers wrote in a new paper outlining their findings. "Studying the effects of this strategy, which elements are key to reducing mortality and healthcare need, and how it might compare to other approaches, is thus of critical importance to the global understanding of pandemic responses."

[RandomGuy]

:rollin

More like a your welcome. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

We're lucky Sweden fucked up so bad. We can study them to see what to avoid.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.imgur.com/mMmo2EC.png

He tries so hard. And fails so badly.

[tholdren]

More like a your welcome. :lol
Lol wrongdomGuy back give his math calculations. BwahahahahHHhHHHH

[RandomGuy]

Lack of lockdown increased COVID-19 deaths in Sweden
Sweden's controversial decision not to lock down during COVID-19 produced more deaths and greater healthcare demand than seen in countries with earlier, more stringent interventions

Sweden's unusual approach also saw fewer patients admitted to intensive-care units than expected. But the country has seen a higher percentage of deaths in older patients outside ICUs than other countries when ICU beds were not limited. That suggests health authorities there have considered patients' chances of recovery in deciding who receives access to intensive care,

"Higher levels of individual action would further suppress the infection,

while a complete lack of individual action would likely have led to runaway infection," :lol USA USA USA

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/uovh-lol070320.php

We are going to get to see what happens in that case in Texas. Case count has doubled in two weeks, another two weeks will see it double again. About that time we will see what happens to a US health system when demand exceeds capacity.

[tholdren]

We are going to get to see what happens in that case in Texas. Case count has doubled in two weeks, another two weeks will see it double again. About that time we will see what happens to a US health system when demand exceeds capacity.

lolololololollol here wrongdomGuy is back with another 2 week notice.

Been happening since March. Hilarious

[tholdren]

lolololololollol here wrongdomGuy is back with another 2 week notice.

Been happening since March. Hilarious

lol hilarious the outrage.

[boutons_deux]

Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale

Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded

a surge of deaths

without sparing its economy from damage —

a red flag as the United States and Britain move to lift lockdowns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html)

[SnakeBoy]

In my view, the true herd immunity threshold probably lies somewhere between the 7% and 24% implied by the cases illustrated in Figures 4 and 5. If it were around 17%, which evidence from Stockholm County suggests the resulting fatalities from infections prior to the HIT being reached should be a very low proportion of the population. The Stockholm infection fatality rate appears to be approximately 0.4%,[20] considerably lower than per the Verity et al.[21] estimates used in Ferguson20, with a fatality rate of under 0.1% from infections until the HIT was reached. The fatality rate to reach the HIT in less densely populated areas should be lower, because R0 is positively related to population density.[22] Accordingly, total fatalities should be well under 0.1% of the population by the time herd immunity is achieved. Although there would be subsequent further fatalities, as the epidemic shrinks it should be increasingly practicable to hasten its end by using testing and contact tracing to prevent infections spreading, and thus substantially reduce the number of further fatalities below those projected by the SEIR model in a totally unmitigated scenario.

Well the first mistake Nicholas Lewis is making is that he is assuming the epidemic will pass instead of recognizing this virus is now endemic.

Mainly though, there doesn't seem to be any realistic scenario where the overall mortality rate is only .1%. Originally I thought it would be in that range but it now seems clear I was wrong.

The optimistic scenario of actual cases 20x confirmed cases put US mortality at just over .2% (~500k deaths to go for us). For Sweden it puts the mortality rate at just over .3%.

[RandomGuy]

Well the first mistake Nicholas Lewis is making is that he is assuming the epidemic will pass instead of recognizing this virus is now endemic.

Mainly though, there doesn't seem to be any realistic scenario where the overall mortality rate is only .1%. Originally I thought it would be in that range but it now seems clear I was wrong.

The optimistic scenario of actual cases 20x confirmed cases put US mortality at just over .2% (~500k deaths to go for us). For Sweden it puts the mortality rate at just over .3%.

You realize he is quoting a chemist, who has published exactly ONE paper in the field of epidemiology right? Dude is about as much of an expert on this, as the dipshits you fuckers trot out to faslely play up doubts about human caused climate change.

Have fun arguing with his dumb ass, because he will cling to his fucktarded beliefs based on this idiots semi-legit sounding creds the same way you do on that.

There is some irony.

[tholdren]

You realize he is quoting a chemist, who has published exactly ONE paper in the field of epidemiology right? Dude is about as much of an expert on this, as the dipshits you fuckers trot out to faslely play up doubts about human caused climate change.

Have fun arguing with his dumb ass, because he will cling to his fucktarded beliefs based on this idiots semi-legit sounding creds the same way you do on that.

There is some irony.

RandomGuy lolooololl too low iq to admit his math is wrongdomGuy.

Lololol


He's wrong


And doesn't understand. Lololol


Sad

[Blake]

In my view....

/Lie

[tholdren]

/Lie

That was a quote from a PhD. Lol

You dont understand lolololokok

[tholdren]

sweden

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/pwyowell/status/1281214834936369153

[tholdren]

https://twitter.com/pwyowell/status/1281214834936369153

ChumpDumper can't read that

[TimDunkem]

^Retard hours starting.

[tholdren]

^Retard hours starting.

name calling and waiting all day for me to post. Your hysteria.


Lololooo

[TimDunkem]

:lol Obsessed

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/pwyowell/status/1281214834936369153Now compare Sweden and Norway.

[tholdren]

Now compare Sweden and Norway.

Bwahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaha

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha tholdren can't show his math

Bwahaha said shooting 45 percent on 2s is impressive

Bwahaha trolls yet cries about being :cry called names :cry

Bwahaha pwned by ChumpDumper daily

Bwahahaha :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahaha tholdren can't show his math

Bwahaha said shooting 45 percent on 2s is impressive

Bwahaha trolls yet cries about being :cry called names :cry

Bwahaha pwned by ChumpDumper daily

Bwahahaha :lmao:lol set shot boomer

[TimDunkem]

:lol set shot boomer

45% on set 2s boomer :lmao bwahahaha probably still shoots hookshots alone in his bunker telling himself he's "still got it" bwahaha

[TimDunkem]

I bet those slow motion layups and hookshots were sick back in 58'. Bwahahaha

[tholdren]

45% on set 2s boomer :lmao bwahahaha probably still shoots hookshots alone in his bunker telling himself he's "still got it" bwahaha

Today's 1st pick mid 30 pct fg% lol

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha doubling down on 45% on set 2s as being impressive

Bwahahaha silly grandpa getting pwned on the internet :lmao

[tholdren]

Bwahaha doubling down on 45% on set 2s as being impressive

Bwahahaha silly grandpa getting pwned on the internet :lmao

Bwahahahahhaha today's nba fan gave up on overreacting to covid and now deflecting. Bwahahahhaha

No talent nba or math



Lololol

You lied about being sick lol

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha hookshots, 45% on set shot 2s, layups, and dribbling above above the waist

Bwahahaha soooo much skill

Bwahaha silly grandpa :lmao lmaooo

[tholdren]

Sweden's daily coronavirus death rate is approaching zero.Newly diagnosed COVID-19 cases have fallen to one-sixth of their number at the peak, just two weeks ago.Suddenly, Sweden's "no-lockdown" approach to the crisis looks like a late-running success.

[ChumpDumper]

But experts are warning that the path Sweden took came at a high price: Sweden's death toll was 11 times that of neighboring Norway, and the current drop in fatalities is on a par with Haiti or Pakistan, countries that are struggling to control outbreaks.

[boutons_deux]

4 Scandinavian countries, Sweded still horrible

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=DNK~NOR~FIN~SWE&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[tholdren]

4 Scandinavian countries, Sweded still horrible

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=DNK~NOR~FIN~SWE&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Lol don't count deaths the same. Cherry picking data.

[tholdren]

Total covid death under 30 = 9

Total covid death 50 and under = 70

[RandomGuy]

[bullshit tweet]


Now compare Sweden and Norway.

[crickets]

:lol

[tholdren]

Total covid death under 30 = 9

Total covid death 50 and under = 70

boy this made RandomGuy mad because he is


WRONG


lolololoII'll


He's
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Again

[tholdren]

Sweden 5.5k deaths. Almost 80 percent over 80....

...
5 k deaths 70+
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[RandomGuy]

I am going to guess that the previous two posts don't compare sweden and norway either and have at least one LOL or HAHAHAH in them.

[midnightpulp]

Anyone endorsing the Swederp strategy needs to stop bumping this thread. They failed. We basically have a 1 to 1 comparison vs. Norway/Denmark combined (same pop, similar cultures and population health), and those countries mitigated their deaths much better and had more or less similar economic results.

[tholdren]

Anyone endorsing the Swederp strategy needs to stop bumping this thread. They failed. We basically have a 1 to 1 comparison vs. Norway/Denmark combined (same pop, similar cultures and population health), and those countries mitigated their deaths much better and had more or less similar economic results.

They don't cou t deaths the same. Sorry. Lockdowns don't work

[tholdren]

Sweden beat the virus

[tholdren]

Comparing the epidemic curve in Belgium (11.5m pop), which locked down early on 17 Mar, and Sweden (10.2m pop), with no lockdown. Chart depicts deaths by date of occurrence, with Sweden per capita adjusted. Total per million: Belgium (844); Sweden (547).

[ChumpDumper]

Comparing the epidemic curve in Belgium (11.5m pop), which locked down early on 17 Mar, and Sweden (10.2m pop), with no lockdown. Chart depicts deaths by date of occurrence, with Sweden per capita adjusted. Total per million: Belgium (844); Sweden (547).Bylines: The Washington Times, MSN.com, The Washington Examiner, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, the Epoch Times. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Comparing the epidemic curve in Belgium (11.5m pop), which locked down early on 17 Mar, and Sweden (10.2m pop), with no lockdown. Chart depicts deaths by date of occurrence, with Sweden per capita adjusted. Total per million: Belgium (844); Sweden (547).

How about Swederp vs. their nearest neighbors, which combined, are the same pop, and are more culturally similar.

https://i.imgur.com/IvmXT1m.png

[tholdren]

How about Swederp vs. their nearest neighbors, which combined, are the same pop, and are more culturally similar.

https://i.imgur.com/IvmXT1m.png

This is incorrect sweden counts all deaths covid within a 30 day pos window and noway does not.

Even norway health director said lockdowns were unnecessary.

But continue to use that chart

[tholdren]

Lol sweden is categorized by media as fail, but norway health dept said lockdown unnecessary.


COG DIS


lolololol

[midnightpulp]

This is incorrect sweden counts all deaths covid within a 30 day pos window and noway does not.

Even norway health director said lockdowns were unnecessary.

But continue to use that chart

Opinions are opinion, facts aren't. Sweden's peer countries decidedly outperformed them.

And quit lying.

1283654643114008577

All Nordic countries count deaths the same.

[tholdren]

Opinions are opinion, facts aren't. Sweden's peer countries decidedly outperformed them.

And quit lying.

1283654643114008577

All Nordic countries count deaths the same.

this is false.

[midnightpulp]

this is false.

Show your math

[tholdren]

See finland



Additionally finland valtioneuvosto.fi

Explains thay over 90 percent died with 1 or more long term illness. Death of working age is very rare. No deaths of children and young people have been diagnosed in finland.

So deaths are counted more stringently and less than 15 deaths occurred in less than 50 years of age.

Pretty standard worldwide data.

Sorry you and twatter were wrong.

[clambake]

Math unable to load. Please try again later.

[tholdren]

See finland



Additionally finland valtioneuvosto.fi

Explains thay over 90 percent died with 1 or more long term illness. Death of working age is very rare. No deaths of children and young people have been diagnosed in finland.

So deaths are counted more stringently and less than 15 deaths occurred in less than 50 years of age.

Pretty standard worldwide data.

Sorry you and twatter were wrong.

nope just go to finnish institute for health and welfare. Its all there.

[midnightpulp]

See finland



Additionally finland valtioneuvosto.fi

Explains thay over 90 percent died with 1 or more long term illness. Death of working age is very rare. No deaths of children and young people have been diagnosed in finland.

So deaths are counted more stringently and less than 15 deaths occurred in less than 50 years of age.

Pretty standard worldwide data.

Sorry you and twatter were wrong.

Link to this?

[tholdren]

Seems also as you are disregarding norway health dept as well. Lockdown unnecessary....

[tholdren]

Link to this?

Sorry you and twatter were wrong.

nope just go to finnish institute for health and welfare. Its all there

[midnightpulp]

nope just go to finnish institute for health and welfare. Its all there.

"All Nordic countries count deaths the same."

Presumably Sweden counts this same way. Nothing you posted is evidence they count differently.

[tholdren]

"All Nordic countries count deaths the same."

Presumably Sweden counts this same way. Nothing you posted is evidence they count differently.

Finland is a Nordic country read the website. You are wrong

[midnightpulp]

Finland is a Nordic country read the website. You are wrong

Nowhere does it say they count deaths differently than Sweden.

[tholdren]

Nowhere does it say they count deaths differently than Sweden.
I already explained to you how sweden counts deaths. But if you need to find out through their site, which i suggest you do, go there. Then compare the 2.

Or keep pushing the false gossip. This is your problem pushing headlines and tweets you do not know. So its gossip. In fact this is actually a lie since the tweet is false.

[midnightpulp]

I already explained to you how sweden counts deaths. But if you need to find out through their site, which i suggest you do, go there. Then compare the 2.

Or keep pushing the false gossip. This is your problem pushing headlines and tweets you do not know. So its gossip. In fact this is actually a lie since the tweet is false.

I want direct links to this. I'm not going to through their websites clicking around. You made the claim, you provide the evidence. But we both know you don't like to show your math.

[baseline bum]

I want direct links to this. I'm not going to through their websites clicking around. You made the claim, you provide the evidence. But we both know you don't like to show your math.

Fuck this guy. He tried to tell me Houston only had 7 COVID deaths in the last week and when I asked him to show a source he just linked Houston's health department COVID page. He wants you to waste time on a snipe hunt for his made up stats.

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren

[tholdren]

I want direct links to this. I'm not going to through their websites clicking around. You made the claim, you provide the evidence. But we both know you don't like to show your math.

So really what you are saying is.

You will pass off Twitter information without fact checking. And you will say that people who oppose your view are wrong without fact checking.

All because you are too lazy to research or "click around"

This is the problem.

Its also gossip

[spurraider21]

Fuck this guy. He tried to tell me Houston only had 7 COVID deaths in the last week and when I asked him to show a source he just linked Houston's health department COVID page. He wants you to waste time on a snipe hunt for his made up stats.
reminds me of the first times in middle school or something when teachers would ask students to list sources for something and they'd just write "google.com"

[baseline bum]

So really what you are saying is.

You will pass off Twitter information without fact checking. And you will say that people who oppose your view are wrong without fact checking.

All because you are too lazy to research or "click around"

This is the problem.

Its also gossip

Your claim, your burden of proof son

[midnightpulp]

So really what you are saying is.

You will pass off Twitter information without fact checking. And you will say that people who oppose your view are wrong without fact checking.

All because you are too lazy to research or "click around"

This is the problem.

Its also gossip

I trust a resident of Sweden who is a health professional more than I do you just stating shit without providing the fuckin' links. It's that simple. Provide the links showing how Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland each count deaths. I know you won't because they don't exist.

[midnightpulp]

reminds me of the first times in middle school or something when teachers would ask students to list sources for something and they'd just write "google.com"

"My dad works at Nintendo."

[tholdren]

Fuck this guy. He tried to tell me Houston only had 7 COVID deaths in the last week and when I asked him to show a source he just linked Houston's health department COVID page. He wants you to waste time on a snipe hunt for his made up stats.
Go here
http://houstonemergency.org/covid19
Scroll down
Click houston covid 19 death demographics
Read.


It sure is sad you have a lot of opinions about this but very limited research.

Then you can use that data to actually find how many deaths occurred on the actual day. Fascinating

[tholdren]

Your claim, your burden of proof son
Don't be mad at me because you can't learn and like to gossip.

[Play Boban]

"All Nordic countries count deaths the same."

Presumably Sweden counts this same way. Nothing you posted is evidence they count differently.
Prove it

[baseline bum]

Go here
http://houstonemergency.org/covid19
Scroll down
Click houston covid 19 death demographics
Read.


It sure is sad you have a lot of opinions about this but very limited research.

Then you can use that data to actually find how many deaths occurred on the actual day. Fascinating

LOL your link hasn't shown any deaths since July 10th. LOL no deaths from July 11th onwards. Man I'm sorry I ever took the time to actually check any stupid shit you posted. Back to the ignore list for you little boy.

[tholdren]

LOL your link hasn't shown any deaths since July 10th. LOL no deaths from July 11th onwards. Man I'm sorry I ever took the time to actually check any stupid shit you posted. Back to the ignore list for you little boy.

HOUSTON COVID-19 DEATH DEMOGRAPHICS

Race/ethnicity of Houston’s 304 COVID-19 deaths as of July 16, 2020:

[tholdren]

Lol baseline bum looking like blake.

Bwahahhahahahahaha


Can't read

[baseline bum]

Lol baseline bum looking like blake.

Bwahahhahahahahaha


Can't read

No one died of COVID in Houston since July 10th? What a load of bullshit. Them not updating the site and logging the deaths yet is proof 7 died instead of 71? :lol

What a fucking retard

[baseline bum]

:lol Did you guys know there hasn't been a single COVID death in Houston in seven days? :lol

[baseline bum]

Houston's actually not a COVID hotspot. :lol

[tholdren]

LOL your link hasn't shown any deaths since July 10th. LOL no deaths from July 11th onwards. Man I'm sorry I ever took the time to actually check any stupid shit you posted. Back to the ignore list for you little boy.

And this is even funnier. You dont understand that those dates are dates these people actually died.

[tholdren]

No one died of COVID in Houston since July 10th? What a load of bullshit. Them not updating the site and logging the deaths yet is proof 7 died instead of 71? :lol

What a fucking retard

and this is why covid will go on forever. Does not even understand the significance...... lolololo

[midnightpulp]

Go here
http://houstonemergency.org/covid19
Scroll down
Click houston covid 19 death demographics
Read.


It sure is sad you have a lot of opinions about this but very limited research.

Then you can use that data to actually find how many deaths occurred on the actual day. Fascinating

You this much of a dumbshit? Deaths lag and aren't all added simultaneously. In two days, AZ added 18 deaths that occurred on July 9th.

https://i.imgur.com/KOh6QfG.png

So when you go to the dashboard and see that 5 people died today, that was just how many deaths were reported for today for that day. As things progress, more deaths will be added across different dates.

And wear a mask.

[baseline bum]

and this is why covid will go on forever. Does not even understand the significance...... lolololo

I understand you're claiming no one has died of COVID in Houston for the last seven days.

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren argues the lag in death reporting means no deaths happening today or yesterday could possibly be reported later.

He is not smart.

[tholdren]

You this much of a dumbshit? Deaths lag and aren't all added simultaneously. In two days, AZ added 18 deaths that occurred on July 9th.

https://i.imgur.com/KOh6QfG.png

So when you go to the dashboard and see that 5 people died today, that was just how deaths were reported for today for that day. As things progress, more deaths will added across different dates.

And wear a mask.

Right in some states this may happen. It doesnt in texas.

The argument is that deaths reported as new deaths are not new daily deaths. States are representing as new deaths that day. This site allows you to see when the deaths actually happened so people like you dont say oh my God new cases always lead to new deaths.

For instance as baseline bum so eloquently put the deaths reported for the 16th happened at least a week before some even in April that were reported deaths on the 16th

This is not how you can measure a what used to be pandemic

[tholdren]

th:lolldren argues the lag in death reporting means no deaths happening today or yesterday could possibly be reported later.

He is not smart.

no this is not what I am arguing. But good lie. What I am arguing is that deaths reported per day in no way can represent a measurement of a pandemic unless it is reported as the actual death date and used in correlation with onset date of disease and hospital admission.

[tholdren]

I understand you're claiming no one has died of COVID in Houston for the last seven days.

Has never once been claimed.

[ChumpDumper]

no this is not what I am arguing. But good lie. What I am arguing is that deaths reported per day in no way can represent a measurement of a pandemic unless it is reported as the actual death date and used in correlation with onset date of disease and hospital admission.How do you measure it?

Show your math.

[tholdren]

How do you measure it?

Show your math.

I just told you. Re read

[midnightpulp]

Right in some states this may happen. It doesnt in texas.

The argument is that deaths reported as new deaths are not new daily deaths. States are representing as new deaths that day. This site allows you to see when the deaths actually happened so people like you dont say oh my God new cases always lead to new deaths.

For instance as baseline bum so eloquently put the deaths reported for the 16th happened at least a week before some even in April that were reported deaths on the 16th

This is not how you can measure a what used to be pandemic

:lol Sure, Texas has figured out how to streamline the reporting system where complete reports of daily deaths are issued on the day of those deaths.

This is a logistic impossibility.

No shit they aren't new daily deaths that happened today, what you don't understand is that cumulative amount of deaths reported each day show trends. Texas is trending very fast in the wrong direction and the data shows this, despite the couple of deaths from April that made it into the report.

[ChumpDumper]

I just told you. Re readI just told you show your math.

[tholdren]

:lol Sure, Texas has figured out how to streamline the reporting system where complete reports of daily deaths are issued on the day of those deaths.

This is a logistic impossibility.

No shit they aren't new daily deaths that happened today, what you don't understand is that cumulative amount of deaths reported each day show trends. Texas is trending very fast in the wrong direction and the data shows this, despite the couple of deaths from April that made it into the report.

It isn't an impossibility. Its just poor health reporting structure.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Sure, Texas has figured out how to streamline the reporting system where complete reports of daily deaths are issued on the day of those deaths.

This is a logistic impossibility.

No shit they aren't new daily deaths that happened today, what you don't understand is that cumulative amount of deaths reported each day show trends. Texas is trending very fast in the wrong direction and the data shows this, despite the couple of deaths from April that made it into the report.His argument is that it as really worse than he said it was months ago and we're just now finding out all the people died then.:lol

No math.

Sad.

[midnightpulp]

Gossip I tell you!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/texas-officials-order-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-state-braces-for-rising-coronavirus-deaths.html

[tholdren]

Gossip I tell you!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/texas-officials-order-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-state-braces-for-rising-coronavirus-deaths.html

The state doesn’t yet need the additional mortuary trucks, said Seth Christensen, a spokesman for the Texas Division of Emergency Management


Pretty much a headline grab and gossip. You are correct

[tholdren]

His argument is that it as really worse than he said it was months ago and we're just now finding out all the people died then.:lol

No math.

Sad.

no, you don't understand math so you don't understand analysis or curvature of any dataset associated with the virus.

[ChumpDumper]

no, you don't understand math so you don't understand analysis or curvature of any dataset associated with the virus.You don't post any of that. You spread gossip and when you're called out you give links to theinternet.com like you're proving something.

Sad.

[tholdren]

You don't post any of that. You spread gossip and when you're called out you give links to theinternet.com like you're proving something.

Sad.
My math already predicted the ifr similar to flu. The cdc said months ago 2x flu. Now with all cases going to be less. My math = correct. You are still wondering what ifr means and how it's calculated.


Lol

Sad

[ChumpDumper]

My mathShow it.

[tholdren]

Show it.

already did.

[ChumpDumper]

already did.Nah.

And if you did, what's stopping you from linking it or showing it again?

That's just science.

[midnightpulp]

The state doesn’t yet need the additional mortuary trucks, said Seth Christensen, a spokesman for the Texas Division of Emergency Management


Pretty much a headline grab and gossip. You are correct

Did Texas hospitals need to order mortuary trucks 2 weeks ago?

And "yet."

[midnightpulp]

My math already predicted the ifr similar to flu. The cdc said months ago 2x flu. Now with all cases going to be less. My math = correct. You are still wondering what ifr means and how it's calculated.


Lol

Sad

CDC upgraded the IFR estimate to .065, about 6x higher than the flu.

[ChumpDumper]

CDC upgraded the IFR estimate to .065, about 6x higher than the flu.th:lolldren's gossip math

[tholdren]

Nah.

yes I did, remember you kept saying that it wasn't 2x flu, then cdc said it was actually a little less than 2x flu?

This was after I repeatedly told.you if you're not 70 and or have a preexisting health condition you will be fine. Then you said everyone was high risk.

Then I said just wash your hands and maintain good hygienic practices and you ridiculed that, but now you are going on an on about nordic countries who say the exact same thing.

This has been terrible for you

[ChumpDumper]

yes I didProve it.

Do the nongossip math.

Right now.

This will be terrible for you.

[midnightpulp]

yes I did, remember you kept saying that it wasn't 2x flu, then cdc said it was actually a little less than 2x flu?

This was after I repeatedly told.you if you're not 70 and or have a preexisting health condition you will be fine. Then you said everyone was high risk.

Then I said just wash your hands and maintain good hygienic practices and you ridiculed that, but now you are going on an on about nordic countries who say the exact same thing.

This has been terrible for you

The CDC's latest estimate of 0.65% is in close agreement with the the overall IFR reported by the Swiss study.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/07/14/coronavirus-covid-deaths-among-children-and-reopening-schools-14909

[ChumpDumper]

The CDC's latest estimate of 0.65% is in close agreement with the the overall IFR reported by the Swiss study.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/07/14/coronavirus-covid-deaths-among-children-and-reopening-schools-14909This has been terrible for th:lolldren.

[tholdren]

CDC upgraded the IFR estimate to .065, about 6x higher than the flu.

Parameter Values that vary among the five COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios. The scenarios are intended to advance public health preparedness and planning. They are not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19.

[midnightpulp]

Parameter Values that vary among the five COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios. The scenarios are intended to advance public health preparedness and planning. They are not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19.

CDC estimate no good now :lmao

And yeah, I agree. The IFR in the US might be higher considering the average American's health

[tholdren]

yes I did, remember you kept saying that it wasn't 2x flu, then cdc said it was actually a little less than 2x flu?

This was after I repeatedly told.you if you're not 70 and or have a preexisting health condition you will be fine. Then you said everyone was high risk.

Then I said just wash your hands and maintain good hygienic practices and you ridiculed that, but now you are going on an on about nordic countries who say the exact same thing.

This has been terrible for you

from the same report you cited
The risk to students of reopening schools is quite small. For instance, more young adults aged 15-24 will drown than die from coronavirus.

Ifr for under 65 is significantly less than the flu per your study 65 plus the ifr is carrying the weight this will decrease and already has based on cases currently being reported.

Thanks for continuing to prove my point

[ChumpDumper]

from the same report you cited
The risk to students of reopening schools is quite small. For instance, more young adults aged 15-24 will drown than die from coronavirus.

Ifr for under 65 is significantly less than the flu per your study 65 plus the ifr is carrying the weight this will decrease and already has based on cases currently being reported.

Thanks for continuing to prove my pointThanks for folding when I called you out.

Nice weasel move.

You are not smart.

[tholdren]

Thanks for folding when I called you out.

Nice weasel move.

You are not smart.
Not folding. Its science. At the current rate of cases ifr goes down steadily. .

[ChumpDumper]

Not folding. Its science. At the current rate of cases ifr goes down steadily. .Show your math.

[tholdren]

Show your math.

It's the definition of ifr

[ChumpDumper]

It's the definition of ifrYou're not showing any math.

Not scientific.

Sad.

[tholdren]

You're not showing any math.

Not scientific.

Sad.

then you dont know how ifr is calculated which means you discussing rate of fatality = gossip.

Amirite

[ChumpDumper]

then you dont know how ifr is calculated which means you discussing rate of fatality = gossip.

Amirite:lol You're gossiping.

You're not showing any math.

You aren't doing any science.

You are not smart.

[tholdren]

LOL your link hasn't shown any deaths since July 10th. LOL no deaths from July 11th onwards. Man I'm sorry I ever took the time to actually check any stupid shit you posted. Back to the ignore list for you little boy.
Lol you cannot make this up.

Baseline bum every day posts daily death counts headlines.

Baseline bum now knows that these counts are not actually deaths that occurred that day

Baseline bum will continue to explain how daily death counts can be used to determine the severity of disease.


Lolololol

It doesn't get any better than this.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol you cannot make this up.

Baseline bum every day posts daily death counts headlines.

Baseline bum now knows that these counts are not actually deaths that occurred that day

Baseline bum will continue to explain how daily death counts can be used to determine the severity of disease.


Lolololol

It doesn't get any better than this.How do you determine the severity of disease?

Show your math.

Thanks in advance for folding.

[baseline bum]

Lol you cannot make this up.

Baseline bum every day posts daily death counts headlines.

Baseline bum now knows that these counts are not actually deaths that occurred that day

Baseline bum will continue to explain how daily death counts can be used to determine the severity of disease.


Lolololol

It doesn't get any better than this.

So you're basically acknowledging the death count is an undercount.

[tholdren]

So you're basically acknowledging the death count is an undercount.

No it isn't. You are assuming all deaths covid probable or even listed as covid are actual covid deaths. These are not. Even with the deaths that happened today that will be attributed to covid i.e. probable or confirmed is not enough to detract from all cause fatality v covid related. But you will not understand that because you do not understand a prerequisite.

Covid is not even in epidemic range at this point.

[ChumpDumper]

No it isn't. You are assuming all deaths covid probable or even listed as covid are actual covid deaths. These are not. Even with the deaths that happened today that will be attributed to covid i.e. probable or confirmed is not enough to detract from all cause fatality v covid related. But you will not understand that because you do not understand a prerequisite.

Covid is not even in epidemic range at this point.Prove it.

[baseline bum]

No it isn't. You are assuming all deaths covid probable or even listed as covid are actual covid deaths. These are not. Even with the deaths that happened today that will be attributed to covid i.e. probable or confirmed is not enough to detract from all cause fatality v covid related. But you will not understand that because you do not understand a prerequisite.

Covid is not even in epidemic range at this point.

LMAO counting only old deaths, so not counting new deaths isn't an undercount :lmao

COVID not an epidemic :lmao

[tholdren]

LMAO counting only old deaths, so not counting new deaths isn't an undercount :lmao

COVID not an epidemic :lmao
Ok go to cdc guidelines for definitions. Enjoy

[tholdren]

Ok go to cdc guidelines for definitions. Enjoy
But i forgot. You dont have time to research you only have time to gossip.

And yes the numbers you are citing are not even confirmed cases nor did these all reach fatality due to covid. All they had to have was an test that they had covid at some point in their life, a symptom, around someone who had a pos at some point or a symptom.

You should really look at the definitions of what you post before you proceed

[ChumpDumper]

www.theinternet.com

[baseline bum]

Ok go to cdc guidelines for definitions. Enjoy

140k motorcycle deaths called COVID

[tholdren]

no the cdc definition of pandemic epidemic and the thresholds that make those things reality.

[baseline bum]

It's an overcount and an undercount at the same time

[ChumpDumper]

no the cdc definition of pandemic epidemic and the thresholds that make those things reality.You're gossiping.

Show your definitions and numbers.

[tholdren]

140k motorcycle deaths called COVID
You are the one citing those numbers as 100 percent accurate when you know that there are discrepancies in the data. So essentially you are just clarifying how you know the numbers you post are gossip.

[baseline bum]

You are the one citing those numbers as 100 percent accurate when you know that there are discrepancies in the data. So essentially you are just clarifying how you know the numbers you post are gossip.

Your discrepancies conspiracy theory is gossip. Glad you agree it's an undercount.

[tholdren]

Your discrepancies conspiracy theory is gossip. Glad you agree it's an undercount.
Nope proceed now that you admitted the numbers you're using aren't accurate. Quick. Also the houston site you had difficulty understanding will also tell you if the deaths were test confirmed. So you can use that too.

[baseline bum]

Nope proceed now that you admitted the numbers you're using aren't accurate. Quick. Also the houston site you had difficulty understanding will also tell you if the deaths were test confirmed. So you can use that too.

What's the real death count, Dr Tholdren?

[tholdren]

What's the real death count, Dr Tholdren?
I'll leave that up to you. Now remember houston is just one of many cities in the us. And if we utilize houston as a sample you would have to take into consideration all the other cities in the us that have not comfirmed cases, and remember just like the motorcycle guy, people can die from things well after they had covid or anything else when they have covid, so you should, if you want to be ethical and honest and truly map the severity of disease take those out.

I have a feeling you will not understand how to do that. And just post the gossip, right?

And then call out people for dishonesty? Am I getting it? Was the motorcycle covid death a trump fault or no?

[baseline bum]

I'll leave that up to you. Now remember houston is just one of many cities in the us. And if we utilize houston as a sample you would have to take into consideration all the other cities in the us that have not comfirmed cases, and remember just like the motorcycle guy, people can die from things well after they had covid or anything else when they have covid, so you should, if you want to be ethical and honest and truly map the severity of disease take those out.

I have a feeling you will not understand how to do that. And just post the gossip, right?

And then call out people for dishonesty? Am I getting it? Was the motorcycle covid death a trump fault or no?

What's the real death count, Dr Tholdren?

[ChumpDumper]

I'll leave that up to you.f:lmaoldren folds

You show no math.

You give no evidence.

All you do is gossip.

[tholdren]

I'll leave that up to you. Now remember houston is just one of many cities in the us. And if we utilize houston as a sample you would have to take into consideration all the other cities in the us that have not comfirmed cases, and remember just like the motorcycle guy, people can die from things well after they had covid or anything else when they have covid, so you should, if you want to be ethical and honest and truly map the severity of disease take those out.

I have a feeling you will not understand how to do that. And just post the gossip, right?

And then call out people for dishonesty? Am I getting it? Was the motorcycle covid death a trump fault or no?

Lol baseline bum admitted he knows the death count is inaccurate , yet is going to proceed anyway.

Dishonesty in action right here.

[baseline bum]

Lol baseline bum admitted he knows the death count is inaccurate , yet is going to proceed anyway.

Dishonesty in action right here.

If it's not counting the last week in Houston it's probably an undercount. Tell us how many motorcycle deaths are called COVID and what the real death count is. Or fold like normal.

[tholdren]

If it's not counting the last week in Houston it's probably an undercount. Tell us how many motorcycle deaths are called COVID and what the real death count is. Or fold like normal.
Not my burden of proof. You are the one posting the admittedly inaccurate data.

Dishonesty

This is whay happens when you make it political

[baseline bum]

Not my burden of proof. You are the one posting the admittedly inaccurate data.

Dishonesty

This is whay happens when you make it political

Of course it's your burden of proof when you claim the numbers are inflated. That 140k official number is likely an undercount judging by the way Texas, Florida, Georgia all had enormous jumps in their number of pneumonia deaths from February through May considering how bad the testing situation was and that pneumonia is one of the principal ways COVID kills.

[tholdren]

Of course it's your burden of proof when you claim the numbers are inflated. That 140k official number is likely an undercount judging by the way Texas, Florida, Georgia all had enormous jumps in their number of pneumonia deaths from February through May considering how bad the testing situation was and that pneumonia is one of the principal ways COVID kills.

Nope your burden of proof because you sai their real. Lolololpl


Sorry. Let's see that math. Lol

So I guess you lied.

[baseline bum]

Nope your burden of proof because you sai their real. Lolololpl


Sorry. Let's see that math. Lol

So I guess you lied.

LOL make outlandish claim, offer no proof.

[tholdren]

LOL make outlandish claim, offer no proof.

Nope you do. With your numbers no proof

[ElNono]

Nope you do. With your numbers no proof

^ gossip

[tholdren]

^ gossip

Sorry no proof to numbers

[ElNono]

Sorry no proof to numbers

Ironic. Show your math.

[RandomGuy]

Why do you people even bother? Sheesh. Dude hasn't posted anything worth responding to in weeks.

[ElNono]

Why do you people even bother? Sheesh. Dude hasn't posted anything worth responding to in weeks.

Just toying with him.

[tholdren]

Why do you people even bother? Sheesh. Dude hasn't posted anything worth responding to in weeks.

beahahahahahahah wrongdom guy. Wrong again.


Ifr
Hospitals

Sweden success w no lockdown.

Lol your math

[Play Boban]

Tens of millions have died in Sweden but there’s been a coverup. I saw footage of a convoy of hundreds of dumb trucks heading into the mountains in Sweden filled with dead bodies from covid. They’re dumping them in mass graves with tens of thousands of other bodies and flash freezing them tbh. It’s sick stuff. How many more millions have to die?

[tholdren]

Tens of millions have died in Sweden but there’s been a coverup. I saw footage of a convoy of hundreds of dumb trucks heading into the mountains in Sweden filled with dead bodies from covid. They’re dumping them in mass graves with tens of thousands of other bodies and flash freezing them tbh. It’s sick stuff. How many more millions have to die?

shhhhhhhhhh

It's happening in South Dakota and every other state in the us too...

[tholdren]

All cause fatalities sweden and denmark in line week 49 through 25.....


Oh no ChumpDumper

[tholdren]

Another win for Sweden.

[boutons_deux]

Sweden continues to be pandemic disaster

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=NOR~FIN~DNK~SWE&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

[tholdren]

Sweden continues to be pandemic disaster

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&deathsMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=NOR~FIN~DNK~SWE&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc
Yes had it not gotten into ltc sweden would have done prrfect

[ChumpDumper]

All cause fatalities sweden and denmark in line week 49 through 25.....


Oh no ChumpDumper
Gossip.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes had it not gotten into ltc sweden would have done prrfectgossip.

[tholdren]

gossip.

Care home residents account for nearly half of deaths linked to Covid-19 in Sweden

It is not

[ChumpDumper]

Care home residents account for nearly half of deaths linked to Covid-19 in Sweden

It is notGossip since you show no sources.

[tholdren]

Gossip since you show no sources.

Published by F. Norrestad, Jul 17, 2020

The highest number of deaths related to the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Sweden as of July 17, 2020 was among individuals from 80 to 90 years old, where the number of deaths reached a total of 2,333. In total, 5,619 individuals in Sweden had suffered deaths related to the coronavirus as of this date.

9 years and younger1
20-29 years9
30-39 years16
40-49 years45
50-59 years157
60-69 years382
70-79 years1,210
80-90 years2,333
90 years and older1,466
Almost all of the deaths are occurring in people over life expectancy.

Sorry you were wrong

[ChumpDumper]

Published by F. Norrestad, Jul 17, 2020

The highest number of deaths related to the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Sweden as of July 17, 2020 was among individuals from 80 to 90 years old, where the number of deaths reached a total of 2,333. In total, 5,619 individuals in Sweden had suffered deaths related to the coronavirus as of this date.

9 years and younger1
20-29 years9
30-39 years16
40-49 years45
50-59 years157
60-69 years382
70-79 years1,210
80-90 years2,333
90 years and older1,466
Almost all of the deaths are occurring in people over life expectancy.

Sorry you were wrong:lmao still no link

Still gossip.

Post a link to that actual text. That's how it becomes not gossip.

[tholdren]

:lmao still no link

Still gossip.

Post a link to that actual text. That's how it becomes not gossip.

Sealion alert
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

[ChumpDumper]

Sealion alert
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/Just training you.

You're basically a toddler.

[tholdren]

You should probably be done with the sweden fail. They didn't lock down, they went to school, they didn't over test, they didn't wear masks, the people who were over the average age of life and the most susceptible to fatality perished.

[ChumpDumper]

You should probably be done with the sweden fail.I have been for awhile.

They failed.

End of story.

You're the one still trying to spin it.

[tholdren]

I have been for awhile.

They failed.

End of story.

You're the one still trying to spin it.

Did not fail. Have no lockdown deaths and accurately counted a pandemic. Without masks. Odd.

[ChumpDumper]

Did not fail.Wrong.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

virus spreading yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

virus spreading yes or no?:lol changing the subject again.

[tholdren]

:lol changing the subject again.

not really. You say failed. Burden of proof on you

[ChumpDumper]

not really. Wrong.

[tholdren]

Wrong.

nice proof sea lion

[ChumpDumper]

nice proof sea lionWrong.

[tholdren]

Published by F. Norrestad, Jul 17, 2020

The highest number of deaths related to the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Sweden as of July 17, 2020 was among individuals from 80 to 90 years old, where the number of deaths reached a total of 2,333. In total, 5,619 individuals in Sweden had suffered deaths related to the coronavirus as of this date.

9 years and younger1
20-29 years9
30-39 years16
40-49 years45
50-59 years157
60-69 years382
70-79 years1,210
80-90 years2,333
90 years and older1,466
Almost all of the deaths are occurring in people over life expectancy.

Sorry you were wrong

[midnightpulp]

tholdren's argument: old people dont count.

[tholdren]

tholdren's argument: old people dont count.

Wrong. The closer you get to the avg life span the higher the risk of death. That is science

The argument is no one healthy had a death rate remotely close to flu extremely rare and extremely low rate for working class. There was no lockdown there were no masks. There was no over testing. Strange that non politicized covid is less destructive than politicized covid.

[Play Boban]

Ppl live ppl die

[tholdren]

Midnightpulp bout to use the absolute min flu fatality estimate to show sweden flu ifr lower than swedens ifr for 9 and younger.

[midnightpulp]

Midnightpulp bout to use the absolute min flu fatality estimate to show sweden flu ifr lower than swedens ifr for 9 and younger.

Nope. I use mean. Quit lying and quit gossiping. But let's look at Sweden's flu deaths vs. Covid deaths.


Influenza infection is often a contributing factor to deaths among elderly
individuals during seasons dominated by influenza A(H3N2). An analysis of the
734 deaths

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/contentassets/b5f8b9e9e0654de38d557b4a55d19496/influenza-in-sweden-2016-2017.pdf

Sweden Covid deaths: 5,600.

[tholdren]

Nope. I use mean. Quit lying and quit gossiping. But let's look at Sweden's flu deaths vs. Covid deaths.



https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/contentassets/b5f8b9e9e0654de38d557b4a55d19496/influenza-in-sweden-2016-2017.pdf

Sweden Covid deaths: 5,600.

bwahHahahsshshhs

Like clockwork. Bwahahahahahss

[Blake]

Wrong. The closer you get to the avg life span the higher the risk of death. That is science

The argument is no one healthy had a death rate remotely close to flu extremely rare and extremely low rate for working class. There was no lockdown there were no masks. There was no over testing. Strange that non politicized covid is less destructive than politicized covid.

Gossip

[tholdren]

Wrong. The closer you get to the avg life span the higher the risk of death. That is science

The argument is no one healthy had a death rate remotely close to flu extremely rare and extremely low rate for working class. There was no lockdown there were no masks. There was no over testing. Strange that non politicized covid is less destructive than politicized covid.

Fact