Official 2021 Free Agency Day Thread (Begins at 5PM CT)

[Robz4000]

Some available free agents

Shooting guards

Player
Team
Age
FA Type
Starting Salary


Danny Green
PHI
34
Starter
$8-10M


Hamidou Diallo ®
DET
23
Starter
$8-10M


Lou Williams
ATL
34
Rotation A
$6-8M


Victor Oladipo
MIA
29
Key Reserve
$4-6M


J.J. Redick
DAL
37
Rotation A
$4-6M






Svi Mykhailiuk ®
OKC
24
Key Reserve
$4-6M


Terence Davis ®
SAC
24
Rotation A
$4-6M


Denzel Valentine
CHI
27
Rotation A
$2-4M


Wesley Matthews
LAL
34
Key Reserve
$2-4M


Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
BKN
26
Key Reserve
$2-4M


JaKarr Sampson
IND
28
Rotation A
Veteran minimum


Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
POR
26
Rotation A
Veteran minimum


James Ennis
ORL
31
Rotation A
Veteran minimum






Paul Millsap
DEN
36
Key Reserve
$4-6M


Jarred Vanderbilt ®
MIN
22
Key Reserve
$4-6M


Trey Lyles
SAS
25
Rotation A
$4-6M


Georges Niang

UTH

28

Rotation A
$2-4M



Andre Iguodala
MIA
37
Rotation A
Veteran minimum


Patrick Patterson
LAC
32
Rotation A
Veteran minimum


Mike Scott
PHI
33
Rotation A
Veteran minimum



Bet LDN ends up with the Dubs.

Also, :lmao Oladipo

[DPG21920]

Trey Lyles signed already, didn’t he?

[Mr. Body]

Trey Lyles signed already, didn’t he?

Detroit

[ace3g]

Detroit

Yeah meant to remove a few from Bobby Marks "best available" list.

[tbdog]

Mcdermott and Collins is a 2 to 3 year project. The idea is the Spurs have a look at the youth while repairing Collins. Mcdermott just fits in either direction. If one of Walker/Johnson/Murray become allstar type players, the Spurs have realign their cap space for 2022 off season to get one max contact. Now the Harden/Durant's etc are out. Beal is likely out too if he commits to Wiz or whoever trades for him. But players like Sexton, Garry Harris, Mikal Bridges, Boucher, Hueter could be had here.

You then insert a healthy Collins and if the Spurs can get him on track, you now got the future 4 the team has always needed. Add Primo and get him minutes before season 3. You can start to see the rebuild in plan.

The very best thing that came out of Spurs very conservative approach edit* is that they kept their picks. There are teams out there are going all out to win and losing picks in the process. Blazers and Bulls come in mind. Bulls have given up 3 first round picks for Vuc and DDR.

edit* just to stop any confusion. Mcdermott isn't a project but rather the ideal role player for the future if the Spurs stars align. Because he fits a team that needs a stretch 3 that can move off the ball. Spurs have relied upon 3's from out guards (forbes/mills/Beli.) We now have dependable 3 point shooter at the sf position.

[Degoat]

Health and health will be key for the spurs during this next season if DJ, White, KJ, and Lonnie play most of the games next season will have a decent record imo

[Spurs9]

Can't believe Lakers got Monk for the minimum, why didn't the Spurs even try to go after him?

[tbdog]

Can't believe Lakers got Monk for the minimum, why didn't the Spurs even try to go after him?

Monks a guard. Do you want him to take minutes from our youth?

Lakers are contenders that desperately need depth? Do you think Monk would want to play for the minimum, on a team that has no minutes for him? Please answer because this board has this delusional one minded, NBA 2k my gm approach to real life.

[poopbox]

Its odd and makes no sense. Unless the Spurs know something.

23 year old who is on the age timeline with our young core and on a relatively cheap deal. I did not want to sign collins, but young rebuilding teams take flyers on other young players with injury issues and the spurs are a young rebuilding team, so...

[mo7888]

Australian center Jock Landale — the 2021 NBL Grand Final MVP — has agreed to a two-year deal with the San Antonio Spurs, his agent Sammy Wloszczowski of sigSports tells @TheAthletic @Stadium.

[SPURt]

Cream Team!!!!!


we’re saying this because there’s a lot of sexy Spurs we collectively want to jizz on us right?

[RC_Drunkford]

interesting. He seems to be mad that he didn't go to the NBA earlier. Seems to have a 3-point shot, but I couldn't find any %. 25 years old. I was waiting on them to bring over somebody from overseas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoTQQttbGH0

[NASpurs]

Cream Team!!!!!


we’re saying this because there’s a lot of sexy Spurs we collectively want to jizz on us right?

Cream Pie Team!

[Sugus]

Don't worry. Nobody reads the essays you write. I just skip them like everybody else :lol


Excellent post

The joke tells itself, tbh; I'm unbothered with posters low-IQ'd enough to be unable to read a couple paragraphs' worth of analysis. I'm well aware that the American education system leaves a lot to be desired, no hard feelings for any of y'all ;)

[slick'81]

Derozan ,mills and gay gone. Young guys get their chance to show out. Top10 pick all but guaranteed...lets fckn gooooooo :lobt2:

[SPURt]

Cream Pie Team!
Internet high five!!! We should make t shirts!

[Degoat]

So we’re up to 15 guys signed now right?

Jakob/Drew/Jock/ZC
Kj/Luka/young/aminu
Doug/Lonnie
White/Devin/Primo
DJ/Tre

Cup of joe on a two way deal I guess??

[dubross]

we might be the whitest team in the league. ��

[RC_Drunkford]

The joke tells itself, tbh; I'm unbothered with posters low-IQ'd enough to be unable to read a couple paragraphs' worth of analysis. I'm well aware that the American education system leaves a lot to be desired, no hard feelings for any of y'all ;)

glad I don't live in America :lol

[ace3g]

Spurs Chatter vs what PATFO hears.

Fans: Sign Collins
PATFO: "We signed Collins"

Fans: Don't sign Aussie PG from St. Mary's
PATFO: "We signed Aussie C from St. Mary's"

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/dejountemurray/status/1422729332020088840?s=21

[Atl Spur]

Correct me if I'm wrong someone, isn't it possible to sign Zach, Doug, and sign Laurie with our cap space and then sign & trade Demar using his birds rights? If so, aren't we actually able to trade the players received in the Demar/Bulls trade?

[Sugus]

glad I don't live in America :lol

Damn, you don't? Where're you from? I'm always curious about international ST'ers... In my mind, I'm the lone stranger in an otherwise Texan-filled online BBQ tbh :lol

[ace3g]

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[Mr. Body]

we might be the whitest team in the league. ��

We Iowa white.

[RC_Drunkford]

Damn, you don't? Where're you from? I'm always curious about international ST'ers... In my mind, I'm the lone stranger in an otherwise Texan-filled online BBQ tbh :lol

:lol Germany

[Teamduncan21]

Good moves considering the free agent class is pretty shallow.

JC is not that good. It's just he is the best out there. Young and aminu are pieces that can be easily moved. Maybe even for picks. And if not moved, the roll off next year and we have cap space again to see who else is available next year. Maybe a better free agent class comes out.

Depends on how we perform. Maybe we get a top 10 pick next year. That will speed up the process

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/ericb1980/status/1422744548141244419?s=21

[Dejounte]

ST: oh no let’s analyze DJ’s emoji response to Lonnie!!! Why didn’t he react the same way like he did to Keldon? Lonnie = gone???

[Floyd Pacquiao]

https://twitter.com/ericb1980/status/1422744548141244419?s=21
They’re not stupid. They know how much Demar patty and gay held them back

[Floyd Pacquiao]

https://twitter.com/ericb1980/status/1422744548141244419?s=21
They’re not stupid. They know how much Demar patty and gay held them back

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Who on this roster can get 25 points when we need it?

[baseline bum]

Who on this roster can get 25 points when we need it?

Spurs are tanking, they don't need anyone to get 25 points for that

[ace3g]

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[Kurik]

ST: oh no let’s analyze DJ’s emoji response to Lonnie!!! Why didn’t he react the same way like he did to Keldon? Lonnie = gone???

4 repeat emojis don’t worry me. Now anything over 5 then there’s some drama that needs to be analyzed.

[Robz4000]

4 repeat emojis don’t worry me. Now anything over 5 then there’s some drama that needs to be analyzed.

What if it's 5 exactly?

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/dejountemurray/status/1422729332020088840?s=21
First they love you then they hate you then they love you again. 100%

[offset formation]

Can't believe Lakers got Monk for the minimum, why didn't the Spurs even try to go after him?

why didn't we go after Batum? THT? DHoward? Etc. Etc. Etc.

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/ericb1980/status/1422744548141244419?s=21
Context is everything was this after the Bulls traded for Derozan?

[Darius Bieber]

https://twitter.com/dejountemurray/status/1422729332020088840?s=21

The #1 pick?

[timvp]

Teams can start talking to free agents at 5PM CT today. That's when agreements will be announced in the media. Signing won't become officially official until Friday but announcement today can be trusted with 99.9% confidence (*glances at Marcus Morris*).

Eight steps to a successful offseason for the San Antonio Spurs: https://www.spurstalk.com/san-antonio-spurs-offseason-successfull-eight-steps/

The Spurs have ~$50 million in cap space they can use on free agents, trades or re-sign DeMar DeRozan, Patty Mills, Rudy Gay or Gorgui Dieng.

Possible free agents the Spurs could be interested in, listed in order of estimated most expensive to estimated least expensive:

John Collins
Jarrett Allen
Spencer Dinwiddie
Gary Trent Jr.
Evan Fournier
Duncan Robinson
Kelly Oubre Jr.
Talen Horton-Tucker
Lauri Markkanen
Kelly Olynyk
Danny Green
Alec Burks
Daniel Theis
Georges Niang
Bryn Forbes

"Don't make a face or else it may get stuck like that" = confirmed :depressed

[Robz4000]

Offseason went from slightly positive to completely negative out of nowhere.

[cjw]

Bryn.
Forbes.

Lol. Is he really going to take playing time away from other guys? Or is it a blatant tank attempt? If the latter, I’m fine with it.

[DPG21920]

It’s all good - I definitely do want to discuss it in earnest. I dont troll. I may be witty, but it’s not trolling. I don’t think I look at it in the worst possible light at all. I for years though a have been beating a drum and been very clear on the path(s) I thought SA should take. I’ve explained my logic and all possible caveats.

When it doesn’t happen, it’s not me seeking out a way of being negative; it’s me having clear ideas and things not happening that way. Beyond that, I feel like I also admit the good aspects too and I dont think many would argue even what you call seeking out negatives as illogical or unreasonable given said context over the years leading up to this pivotal moment.





Again, context is needed. When I saw obvious, of course I am not talking about the FO :lol. Nothing is obvious to them. I mean to most people with a brain outside of the FO and around the league. Secondly, I absolutely was on the trade DDR/Rudy/Mills train for something - but it was not just for the sake of it or for anything. I advocated for this 2 years ago when they actually had more value. I wanted SA to get to this spot quicker, have more years to decide on the youth and to get as much draft capital to make moves with.

So now that they waited until the last second, nuked their values? Yeah I am going to nitpick because the situation changed and getting something for them now vs 2 years ago now comes at the expense of cap space. Huge difference and key context.



Again context matters. I never said “only youth under 25” or that McBuckets doesn’t help the youth. Never. I said it’s conflicting strategies. It’s crystal clear SA prioritized youth and cap flexibility next year (not signing Collins or Lauri or anyone to a huge multi year deal). They did a S&T with strictly expiring contracts. So again, does Doug at 29 fit the timeline of growing with the youth? No. Does he fit the strategy of maximizing cap space next year? No. That’s conflicting and I dont see how that is debatable.

You may want to debate if he is WORTH conflicting the strategy for (he isn’t), but there is no debating it shows a lack of cohesive plan IMO. I would even be fine with Doug at 25M a year….if it was one year. AT least that makes sense with their other moves. As of now, rushing to sign Doug who is older and sucks on defense and punting cap space for that? Yeah, makes no sense with with the subsequent moves they made. Thats not being negative that is truth.




You can use words like apocalyptic posts and that’s all fun :lol but it’s not reality. Re-read my posts…I have routinely said, they avoided any costly mistakes. That they at least avoided big landmines. That is not apocalyptic at all. That’s reasonable and also true. That doesnt change the other critics though and all the meat they continue to leave on the bone. We dont know all the deals; you’re right. But we know its’ a results business and they failed to trade any vets when they had value, missed the playoffs, ran back the same team, missed playoffs again then had 50M in cap space and a lottery pick.

I am sorry, but that isn’t good enough job no matter what; even if they did “ok”.



Agree - Ive said freeing the youth was the way for years now and great, the finally did it. All good there and no beef. Although they did add back 3 vets, 2 of which can’t shoot.

But the cap space stuff? yeah, that’s where it gets debatable. Sounds great to say “30M still!” But in reality if that was their plan to maximize space they failed. They should have 50M next year and now put themselves in a corner IF they need it to have to dump Collins and Doug? Why? Why paint yourself into that corner for no good reason…sign one year deal guys, your are losing anyways, and dont risk 22M in cap space for trades/free agents for the likes of Collins and Doug. It makes no sense no matter how you look at it and again, thats no being negative; it’s truth.



Context: They speed up the rebuild in your mind because DDR/Mills/Rudy are gone, but they were all FA. SA didn’t have to do anything for them to go. When I say “speed up rebuild” I am talking about having 50M in cap space + a lottery pick. Did they use that treasure trove of assets to speed up their rebuild and give them selves a brighter future?

There is no way in hell you can say, IMO respectfully, that this is a resounding success. That is an absolutely ludicrous position to take. It’s like 100x the inverse of you calling me negative :lol.

They did ok. They did bare min. They also squandered an amazing opportunity to really do more for the franchise here even if it didn’t set them back too much either.

Sugus no response? And they signed Forbes

[azarel]

at this rate i would rather we trade for ben simmons hahah

[rankingtear]

Lonnie getting traded? We can't have 2 of the worst guard defenders in the NBA right?

[Robz4000]

What is this I don't even

[timtonymanu]

Offseason went from slightly positive to completely negative out of nowhere.

Only hope is they become bad enough that they have no choice but to tank. At this point though I don’t even trust them to do good with a high lottery pick. :lol

[Robz4000]

Only hope is they become bad enough that they have no choice but to tank. At this point though I don’t even trust them to do good with a high lottery pick. :lol

They'll take a second round talent with the top overall pick that had the potential to be a lottery pick two years down the line.

[RC_Drunkford]

Sugus where you at? :lmao :lmao :lmao I‘m curious how you gonna spin this one

[Atl Spur]

Here comes Big Ben Simmons..... Laurie too�� we have shooters everywhere. I smell a trade coming

[azarel]

yah man.... definitely a big trade in the works....

[John B]

It has to be Simmons... a lot of shooters, even Bryn Forbes... I think it's Dj/Lonnie/Poeltl/Aminu plus picks for Simmons.
DJ = Simmons are redundant and absolutely kills spacing. So DJ has to go.
Bryn is signed, so a SG is gone. Lonnie
Landale a shooter >>>> Poeltl. Poeltl is gone.
Aminu to complete the numbers... plus picks

[td4mvp2k]

Here comes Big Ben Simmons..... Laurie too�� we have shooters everywhere. I smell a trade coming
package of guards

[biziofromdowntown]

Please, could someone tell me what's our roster right now? I', lost with all those signings

[Robz4000]

Please, could someone tell me what's our roster right now? I', lost with all those signings

Murray
Forms
McDipshit
Keldon
Poeltl

White
Jones
Lonnie
Vassell
Samanic
Eubanks
Jeffries (waived already or prolly waived)
Aminu (prolly waived)
Young
Landale
Primo

Two-Way:
Weiskamp
KBD???

Gonna need to trade/waive at least one more player.

Edit: Forgot Zollins, that means a second player is gone.

[timvp]

Murray
Forms
McDipshit
Keldon
Poeltl

White
Jones
Lonnie
Vassell
Samanic
Eubanks
Jeffries (waived already or prolly waived)
Aminu (prolly waived)
Young
Landale
Primo

Two-Way:
Weiskamp
KBD???

Gonna need to trade/waive at least one more player.

Man, don't tell me the Spurs did something like include Samanic in the DeRozan trade . . .

[timvp]

Murray
Forms
McDipshit
Keldon
Poeltl

White
Jones
Lonnie
Vassell
Samanic
Eubanks
Jeffries (waived already or prolly waived)
Aminu (prolly waived)
Young
Landale
Primo

Two-Way:
Weiskamp
KBD???

Gonna need to trade/waive at least one more player.

Man, don't tell me the Spurs did something like include Samanic in the DeRozan trade . . .

[biziofromdowntown]

Murray
Forms
McDipshit
Keldon
Poeltl

White
Jones
Lonnie
Vassell
Samanic
Eubanks
Jeffries (waived already or prolly waived)
Aminu (prolly waived)
Young
Landale
Primo

Two-Way:
Weiskamp
KBD???

Gonna need to trade/waive at least one more player.

Holy sh*t. I can see me in drunk Pop mode this year :toast

[RodNIc91]

Murray
Forms
McDipshit
Keldon
Poeltl

White
Jones
Lonnie
Vassell
Samanic
Eubanks
Jeffries (waived already or prolly waived)
Aminu (prolly waived)
Young
Landale
Primo

Two-Way:
Weiskamp
KBD???

Gonna need to trade/waive at least one more player.

you’re missing the crown jewel in Zollins

[Kurgan]

Man, don't tell me the Spurs did something like include Samanic in the DeRozan trade . . .

I was beginning to think that something wasn't right. Spurs actually won a trade for the first time in 10 years? That can't be right. Historically, we're the worst team in the league when it comes to trades. Throwing Sam into the Derozan deal makes more sense for our garbage FO.

[Robz4000]

Man, don't tell me the Spurs did something like include Samanic in the DeRozan trade . . .

:depressed JFC

[Robz4000]

you’re missing the crown jewel in Zollins

:lmao fuck, so they gotta waive/trade two players. They definitely threw one of the young players in with the DePression trade, didn't they?

[biziofromdowntown]

:lmao fuck, so they gotta waive/trade two players. They definitely threw one of the young players in with the DePression trade, didn't they?

Just wow. So we are even WORST than what I thought.

[pookenstein]

:lol Germany

I think we have several guys from Germany on here. Didn't know you were german too. Which part?

[Kurgan]

:lmao fuck, so they gotta waive/trade two players. They definitely threw one of the young players in with the DePression trade, didn't they?

Getting flashbacks of the Kawhi trade. Wake up in the morning to read that we're trading Nephew To Toronto...for Siakam, right? Oh, it's Derozan. But we're gonna get OG at least, right? No Anunoby - it's that Austrian bust with the funny name. Wait, there's more. We're also giving up Danny Green. But wait, we're not done yet. We're also paying them 5 million to fuck us over.

[Robz4000]

Getting flashbacks of the Kawhi trade. Wake up in the morning to read that we're trading Nephew To Toronto...for Siakam, right? Oh, it's Derozan. But we're gonna get OG at least, right? No Anunoby - it's that Austrian bust with the funny name. Wait, there's more. We're also giving up Danny Green. But wait, we're not done yet. We're also paying them 5 million to fuck us over.

:lol and the mastermind behind that clusterfuck is Brian Wrong

[ElNono]

Spurs might use a Disabled Player Exception on Zollins, and just let him take the long road to rehab. That will solve that particular roster spot problem.

[Chomag]

As a Spurs fan Fuck my life man... What a shit show!!
Nothing more I can say right now other then I hate this FO so much.

[GreekSpursfan]

Loooking at this roster and the bright side at least we'll always have someone to laugh at, its comedy season.

[duncan2150]

The Spurs can just cut Aminu and make Wieskamp a two way in order to sign Forbes and Landale. They don't necessary need to give a player in a trade or tu cut another player.

[lefty20]

Loooking at this roster and the bright side at least we'll always have someone to laugh at, its comedy season.

It'll quickly turn into greek tragedy season when Forbes is listed as a starter in game 1.

[Robz4000]

The Spurs can just cut Aminu and make Wieskamp a two way in order to sign Forbes and Landale. They don't necessary need to give a player in a trade or tu cut another player.

I made my list assuming that's what would happen (alongside waiving Jeffries), but then they still have one too many players.

[duncan2150]

I made my list assuming that's what would happen (alongside waiving Jeffries), but then they still have one too many players.


Yes you're right , i miss Collins too.

[duncan2150]

I made my list assuming that's what would happen (alongside waiving Jeffries), but then they still have one too many players.


Yes you're right , i miss Collins too.

Edit :

White Murray Jones
Walker Forbes Primo
Johnson Vassell Mc Dermott
Young Samanic Collins
Poetl Landale Eubanks

That's 15, did i miss someone ? assuming cutting aminu and wieskamp a two way.

[biziofromdowntown]

Yes you're right , i miss Collins too.

Edit :

White Murray Jones
Walker Forbes Primo
Johnson Vassell Mc Dermott
Young Samanic Collins
Poetl Landale Eubanks

That's 15, did i miss someone ? assuming cutting aminu and wieskamp a two way.

We are on the fast track to be the worst team this season. Tank hard.

[dbestpro]

Spurs now have 2 too many players. One looks destined for a 2 way contract while one will get cut or maybe one will get an injury exemption. More likely Aminu is going to get cut.

[kobyz]

Yes you're right , i miss Collins too.

Edit :

White Murray Jones
Walker Forbes Primo
Johnson Vassell Mc Dermott
Young Samanic Collins
Poetl Landale Eubanks

That's 15, did i miss someone ? assuming cutting aminu and wieskamp a two way.
I think Simmons his on his way here, for some kind of package of Murray/White/Thad/Amino/Poetl/Vassell/Samanic/future picks, so i see us like this:
Simmons/White/Jones
Walker/Forbes/Primo
Johnson/Wieskamp
McDermott/Collins
Landale/Poetl

[duncan2150]

I prefer tanking than going for Simmons with that kind of package. If he could be cheap why not but giving some youngs and multiples picks is not good imo.

[spurraider21]

Spurs might use a Disabled Player Exception on Zollins, and just let him take the long road to rehab. That will solve that particular roster spot problem.
Well they would fill that spot with Jeff Ayres. So still need to cut someone else

[tbdog]

Well they would fill that spot with Jeff Ayres. So still need to cut someone else

This place would melt down if Ayres comes back. It would be the ultimate troll.

[Spurs9]

Monks a guard. Do you want him to take minutes from our youth?

Lakers are contenders that desperately need depth? Do you think Monk would want to play for the minimum, on a team that has no minutes for him? Please answer because this board has this delusional one minded, NBA 2k my gm approach to real life.
They saw your post and then signed Bryn Forbes. :lol :lmao Nice job bro :lmao

[Darius Bieber]

Collins has agreed to Atlanta's offer

[rankingtear]

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[John B]

Restricted free agent F John Collins has agreed to a five-year, $125M deal to stay with the Atlanta Hawks, @excelbasketball agents Sean Kennedy and Jeff Schwartz tell ESPN.

[Texas_Ranger]

Kemba to Knicks

[objective]

Damn, Spurs could have either worked it and gotten him or forced atl to pay even more.

Oh well, at least we get to watch some good shoe wipes

[MoSpur02]

Collins has agreed to Atlanta's offer

I’m sure the Spurs made an offer, but he probably wanted to stay in ATL and I don’t blame him. They’re on the right track.

[MoSpur02]

1422903954892021761

Wonder what his number was? $18-$20 million per?

[MI21]

Damn, Spurs could have either worked it and gotten him or forced atl to pay even more.

Oh well, at least we get to watch some good shoe wipes

:cry Hand claps and head drops.

[spurraider21]

4/120 that the spurs could have offered was a better contract than the 5/125 collins agreed to... though its possible the hawks didnt want to offer that (since they didnt have to) but ultimately would have been willing to match it

still peeved the spurs didnt try to at least get him on an offer sheet before moving on

once the spurs were out, collins only options were to accept the deal on the table or play on a 1 year QO and bank on UFA status next summer

[Leetonidas]

So the spurs have to be making another move right? seems like with the DD trade that we'd have too many players on the roster

[Uriel]

On the first day of free agency, the Heat called the Spurs and offered Iguodala in a sign-and-trade for DeRozan. The Spurs said no thanks because they had a better offer. Now we know that offer was from the Bulls.

The Spurs didn’t pull the trigger right away because they elected to participate in the John Collins sweepstakes. But once it became clear Collins and Hawks were making progress on a deal, they called the Bulls up and accepted their offer.

[spurraider21]

On the first day of free agency, the Heat called the Spurs and offered Iguodala in a sign-and-trade for DeRozan. The Spurs said no thanks because they had a better offer. Now we know that offer was from the Bulls.

The Spurs didn’t pull the trigger right away because they elected to participate in the John Collins sweepstakes. But once it became clear Collins and Hawks were making progress on a deal, they called the Bulls up and accepted their offer.
we could have offered a better deal than what collins agreed to

[azarel]

can't do much if the player does not even want to play for us...

[Poolboy5623]

Why would Collins want to leave a team that just went to the ECF, for the Spurs lol? I must be really missing something here..

[Mr. Body]

I like how this board interprets being two players over as 'obviously' Ben Simmons is coming.

[spurraider21]

Why would Collins want to leave a team that just went to the ECF, for the Spurs lol? I must be really missing something here..
money

[spurraider21]

I like how this board interprets being two players over as 'obviously' Ben Simmons is coming.
or siakam, or something along those lines. but we have to trim the roster and i dont know how likely it is the spurs ownership just wants to eat contracts to make space for the likes of Forbes, Jeffries, and Zollins

[Teamduncan21]

money

he already signed with hawks too late for that

[spurraider21]

he already signed with hawks too late for that
im aware. i was answering the hypothetical of why he potentially could have chosen to go to SA

[timvp]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

[offset formation]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

If it's Samanic or Walker, I'll calling for Wright to go. Utter incompetence.

But it seems they've filled out the roster with no thought whatsoever of Samanic as a young player being considered for PT.

When will we know? Friday?

[spurraider21]

ive been mostly critical of samanic since we drafted him, but including him in the derozan trade would be patently absurd

walker has been disappointing and is going into his 4th year... i wouldnt be as mad about him going, but i wonder if he has any independent value around the league other than being a throw-in for roster trimming purposes

[Leetonidas]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

I'm going to puke man, this went from an ok offseason to putrid really quick :vomit:

[LeBowen]

If they give away Lonnie with Demar, I'm boycotting the season, fuck it.

I withstood Forbes starting for two years, but trading away young players for no fucking reason would be inexcusable..

[DPG21920]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

If it’s Lonnie SA better bet getting a damn asset.

[Trill Clinton]

Luka can go tbh

[DPG21920]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

You really think Sa will add Lonnie in the package as is?

[FlAVaK]

I think we have several guys from Germany on here. Didn't know you were german too. Which part?

Knew about you, but not about RC_D...

I'm from way up north, near Kiel. Where are you from?

[CGD]

You really think Sa will add Lonnie in the package as is?

How do double S&Ts work? I thought in a regular S&T the team sending out the signed player couldn’t ADD more players from their side of the ledger.

But apparently it’s possible. Makes me wonder if mechanically it has to be two separate deals. So what we saw with DDR was the first leg of it, which is happening regardless. Then the second leg, the Lauri deal, is still influx?

[R. DeMurre]

can't do much if the player does not even want to play for us...

Yeah, this is the thing that's nearly impossible to predict in FA signing scenarios... these guys are human beings, and they have attachments to things like off court friends and family, on team relationships, wives & kids who have their own opinions and sentiments, neighborhoods, communities, church ties, etc., etc...

[Degoat]

If it’s in anybody else included it’ll be Eubanks imo no way it’s Walker, maybe Luka but I doubt they give up on him just yet

[emanueldavidginobili]

I don’t think anyone else is included in that deal. Sometime after the DeMar trade DJ made a series of Instagram stories of every Spur player on the squad. Patty, Rudy and DeMar were not on his stories. I would hope DJ would know if anyone else was added to that trade but then again it wouldn’t surprise me. I’ll be livid if it’s Lonnie or Luka, complete waste of 18th and 19th overall picks.

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1422953839385268227?s=20

[Leetonidas]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1422953839385268227?s=20

Him + Forbes = championship? :lol

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1422953839385268227?s=20

Roster limits? Where we're going, there are no roster limits.

[Teamduncan21]

Roster limits? Where we're going, there are no roster limits.

Greek + Forbes = championship. That's what we are doing.

[BillMc]

Him + Forbes = championship? :lol

Truth. Forbes just won a championship with some Greek guy. :lol

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https://twitter.com/N_Magaro/status/1422953839385268227?s=20

If they're considering yet another player, then expect one of Walker or Samanic to be headed out in addition to Eubanks I'm starting to agree with timvp.

I am so gonna hate the front office if they just casually toss in a first rounder or two from recent drafts when no book should have yet been closed on either one of them.

[Ocotillo]

With all the speculation that a trade must be coming down the road here soon, I have to say I would not be surprised if it does. One thing for sure, I don't think anyone correctly predicted what they were doing other than Cup of Joe in the second round. Everything else has been not just out of left field, but from a whole other dimension.

BTW, I still don't want Simmons.

[Mugen]

My guess is that when that DeRozan trade goes through, there will be Samanic, Walker and/or Eubanks added to the deal.

That would be so fucking dumb and completely on brand for this FO :lol

[Teamduncan21]

Can it be non guaranteed deals? You know like the Eddy curry who plays for like pre season then that's it

[Spurs Homer]

Can anyone tell me if Forbes is allowed to be sent out with any trade?

or is this against some rule?

there is just no reason to give away a samanic or a walker and KEEP Forbes

ewwwbanks better be the one going

fuck this FO

[Mugen]

Drafting guys in the first round teens, never giving them solid minutes nor putting them in the best position to succeed....only to throw them in as trade filler so they can flourish elsewhere would be such a Pop/Brian move

That plus bringing back literally the worst POS in team history in Forbes is absolutely comical, I'd be done with this franchise finally if/when that shit goes through :lol

[BillMc]

That would be so fucking dumb and completely on brand for this FO :lol

Agreed.

Maybe they've had preliminary discussions with Lonnie on an extension and are worlds apart, so they'll ship him out somewhere as part of a deal.

[Mugen]

Agreed.

Maybe they've had preliminary discussions with Lonnie on an extension and are worlds apart, so they'll ship him out somewhere as part of a deal.

Just keep him for this last season and see what he does without Derozan's loser ass blocking his way. If he sucks then let him walk but then you at least get an honest look at what he can do...

It's hilarious that they'd possibly ship out Lonnie for peanuts but they wouldn't dare do that with Patty, Gay, LMA, and Derozan last season. What a trash FO :lol

[rankingtear]

Just keep him for this last season and see what he does without Derozan's loser ass blocking his way. If he sucks then let him walk but then you at least get an honest look at what he can do...

It's hilarious that they'd possibly ship out Lonnie for peanuts but they wouldn't dare do that with Patty, Gay, LMA, and Derozan last season. What a trash FO :lol

He sucks.

[SAGirl]

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I.e. he didn’t want the contract that McDermott got.
Thanks for sharing. I thought they had no interest in him after all, but here we are.

[rankingtear]

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It's happening!

[Seventyniner]

Beal could very well be the first domino.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, this is the thing that's nearly impossible to predict in FA signing scenarios... these guys are human beings, and they have attachments to things like off court friends and family, on team relationships, wives & kids who have their own opinions and sentiments, neighborhoods, communities, church ties, etc., etc...
Plus ATL has a bright future, so any discount he gave would be for a better situation for himself in quality of life. I think he simply leveraged the Spurs offer until ATL got to a number that he could accept and both left the table with a compromise.

[spurraider21]

Beal could very well be the first domino.
there have already been dominos though

[spurraider21]

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It's happening!
forbes needs a backup tbh

[Dejounte]

Aron Baynes waived from the Raptors. To make room for Spurs players? Tee hee

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm guessing this might end up being a 3-team deal with the Spurs re-routing Young, Aminu, the Bulls picks and 1 or 2 of Samanic, Walker, Vassell

[GreekSpursfan]

It'll quickly turn into greek tragedy season when Forbes is listed as a starter in game 1.

We know we're gonna be a lottery team, relax bro. Everyone will get their share of minutes eventually.

[DPG21920]

Just keep him for this last season and see what he does without Derozan's loser ass blocking his way. If he sucks then let him walk but then you at least get an honest look at what he can do...

It's hilarious that they'd possibly ship out Lonnie for peanuts but they wouldn't dare do that with Patty, Gay, LMA, and Derozan last season. What a trash FO :lol

This. It’s inexcusable to block Lonnies development then trade him at his all time low value prematurely just to clear a roster spot right before he gets a full year to up his value :lol

If you get an asset for him like another first or young player you like more? Fine. But to throw him in a deal for no extra compensation when the compensation is already meh? Incompetence

[GreekSpursfan]

Agreed.

Maybe they've had preliminary discussions with Lonnie on an extension and are worlds apart, so they'll ship him out somewhere as part of a deal.

They should be world apart, ship him, he's Jabari Parker lvl of incompetence on d after all this time trying to teach him the basics. People here get easily emotionally attached to certain players that haven't proven shit.
We need to get over this syndrome

[DPG21920]

They should be world apart, ship him, he's Jabari Parker lvl of incompetence on d after all this time trying to teach him the basics. People here get easily emotionally attached to certain players that haven't proven shit.
We need to get over this syndrome

They barely have had the chance to prove themselves both in consistent roles and in usage opportunity

[spurspl]

i can see siakam goin to kings, makes sense and they have assets

[The Truth #6]

Last year Wright was singing defense in the off-season.

This year, character. That’s important, but not a basketball skill.

Is it like roulette wheel where he just randomly spins and gets a theme?

[The Truth #6]

This off-season is like a buffet for Mugen and DPG21920. Feast!

[vy65]

Man, the FO took a big, fat, steamy hot shit all over the haters today.

There's way too many posts to quote, dead wrong, about the Spurs bringing the vets back at any cost, another $50Millz contract, re-signing DePression, all that jazz.... Feels so fucking good to get vindication like this, and see the team offload their over-the-hill vets and turn a new page.

I personally knew we weren't ever re-signing DeRozan & Co after the play-in game, but I'd be lying if I said I never doubted, either.... Being a Spurs fan can be a test of faith sometimes, it's nice to see it get rewarded like this :lol

Now, bois, roll the tank over...... Where's the 2022 Draft thread, TBH?!


The part about selling capspace for assets that nobody talks about is how it poisons the locker room. The Spurs, even if they end up tanking out next season, want to keep a winning culture, and bringing e.g. Love on the team with his massive salary for a couple picks would absolutely be a hit to everyone's morale.

And McD will be easily moved if need be - he's a SF/PF shooter in the modern NBA, making $14M. Chump change considering the modern cap and luxury thresholds. This is a classic case of Spurstalk jumping the gun to shit on the FO any chance they can. Go back to Jakob's signing thread if you want a prime example :lol I'll never get over that one. If the same people who were saying Jak was an overpay, are saying McD is one, I'm dandy tbh :lol


:smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin :smokin

FUCK YEAH BABY DEROZAN IS OFF THE TEAM!!!! LESSS GOOOO


Come on, Dude, "pay out". Metaphorically. Give the FO the praise it deserves.


I told you yesterday, this single move already makes this off-season plenty successful. The fact that Gay is also off the team from today's trade (!!!) and Patty also heavily rumored to leave..... Cream on the fuckin' top.

I'm hardly able to contain my excitement TBH. You wanted direction, didn't you? Flexibility? This is the clearest pro-tanking move the Spurs could've made - AND they got multiple picks back for DeRozan, not losing the asset for nothing, AND other players on short-term deals that can be rerouted elsewhere if needed, AND (if I read the trade specifics correctly) they can still make that move towards the Good Collins.

Not fuckin' bad for Wrong, I'll tell you. Well, I'd tell you, but I'd like to hear it from you much better....... ;)

You son of a bitch, I'm in.

[vy65]

No but seriously, I've never seen posts about roster moves age so terribly in less than 24 hours. That's impressive.

[pookenstein]

Knew about you, but not about RC_D...

I'm from way up north, near Kiel. Where are you from?

I'm from the Midwest. About 35km away from Koblenz.

[spurspl]

Last year Wright was singing defense in the off-season.

This year, character. That’s important, but not a basketball skill.

Is it like roulette wheel where he just randomly spins and gets a theme?

next season will be: the less IG followers you have the better chances to be picked by spurs.

[spurraider21]

You son of a bitch, I'm in.
can i get the origin of this meme?

[spurspl]

Last year Wright was singing defense in the off-season.

This year, character. That’s important, but not a basketball skill.

Is it like roulette wheel where he just randomly spins and gets a theme?

next season will be: the less IG followers you have the better chances to be picked by spurs.

[Leetonidas]

can i get the origin of this meme?

it's from rick and morty :lol

[Leetonidas]

can i get the origin of this meme?

it's from rick and morty :lol

[vy65]

it's from rick and morty :lol


can i get the origin of this meme?

Well, it's Mr. Body quoting rick and morty to support the primo choice

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm from the Midwest. About 35km away from Koblenz.

you close to where I'm at. I'm from Cologne

[JeffDuncan]

can i get the origin of this meme?

In the forum, this thread

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296999

[pookenstein]

kkZpgEhxAYo

[pookenstein]

you close to where I'm at. I'm from Cologne

Nice. That's about 85km from me. We should meet up and celebrate once Pop leaves, Wright starts to be good at his job or Forbes is gone. Whatever comes first. FlAVaK (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7219) can come as well.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nice. That's about 85km from me. We should meet up and celebrate once Pop leaves, Wright starts to be good at his job or Forbes is gone. Whatever comes first. FlAVaK (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7219) can come as well.

bet see you in 2030

[dubross]

Hearing the S&T that would land Spencer Dinwiddie in Washington, from Brooklyn, could happen as soon as today/tomorrow. It’s expected to be a multi-team trade, possibly expanding across 6-8 different franchises (thus the reason things are taking so long) Chicago & Oklahoma City are two names that I’ve heard connected to trade. BKN most recently requested Deni Avdija + future 1st/2nd round picks from WAS — WAS rebuffed the offer. Hearing Dinwiddie WILL be a Wizard, the avenue is just complicated. - realQuintonMayo

[Leetonidas]

Apparently Antonio Daniels was on Sirius this morning talking about how he has heard about a potential Simmons to SA trade

[Robz4000]

I feel like y'all are giving Brian Wrong too much credit. Dude prolly doesn't even realize there's a limit to roster slots in the NBA.

[spurraider21]

Apparently Antonio Daniels was on Sirius this morning talking about how he has heard about a potential Simmons to SA trade
methinks he's talking out of his ass

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[Robz4000]

bet see you in 2030

You son of a bitch. I'm in.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not even sure if I would like that trade

[spurraider21]

I'm not even sure if I would like that trade
-__-

i love murray more than most... but even with his shortcomings simmons would elevate the spurs quite a bit. he's a good enough talent to give teams a solid floor, but he's super flawed for teams trying to go over the top.

[Dejounte]

Hearing the S&T that would land Spencer Dinwiddie in Washington, from Brooklyn, could happen as soon as today/tomorrow. It’s expected to be a multi-team trade, possibly expanding across 6-8 different franchises (thus the reason things are taking so long) Chicago & Oklahoma City are two names that I’ve heard connected to trade. BKN most recently requested Deni Avdija + future 1st/2nd round picks from WAS — WAS rebuffed the offer. Hearing Dinwiddie WILL be a Wizard, the avenue is just complicated. - real (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6855)QuintonMayo

this might be the trade the Spurs are a part of?

[barakz21]

this might be the trade the Spurs are a part of?

Are they really doing a trade or is this just speculation?

[Dejounte]

Are they really doing a trade or is this just speculation?

speculation. Makes a lot more sense than waiving guys. But who knows

[LCM]

this might be the trade the Spurs are a part of?

Nothing can be finalized til Friday, Spurs could be up in that mix.

[Dejounte]

Brooklyn signed Patty Mills without any cap space. That should be a big clue for you.

[Leetonidas]

Brooklyn signed Patty Mills without any cap space. That should be a big clue for you.

I coulda swore I read they used the TMLE for that, no?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Brooklyn signed Patty Mills without any cap space. That should be a big clue for you.

Taxpayer MLE.

[barakz21]

speculation. Makes a lot more sense than waiving guys. But who knows

Gotcha, it does make sense but still figure I’d ask, in case I missed something.

[Dejounte]

I coulda swore I read they used the TMLE for that, no?


Taxpayer MLE.

ahh thanks for pointing that out, guys

[Leetonidas]

I think Chinook said S&T deals would need to be at least 3 years, so Patty signing for 2 years kinda nullifies that one also

[LCM]

Would you do a 4 team deal ...

Toronto - Simmons, Paul Reed, Shake Milton
Sixers - DJM, LW, Samanic, Aminu (for money purposes) draft picks (in DeRozen trade, no new ones)
Bulls - DeRozen
Spurs - Siakam

Spurs - Derrick, Keldon, McDermott, Siakam, Poeltl
Bench - Jones, Vassell, ?? (Greek 6'9 Forward 27 yr old Spurs are looking at), Young, Landale
Forbes (VOMITING), Collins (paying 7mill on him IF HEALTHY, is cheaper than extending Samanic), KBD (qualifying offer), Eubanks, Jeffries?? (Do they guarantee contract)

Basically giving DJM, LW, Luka for Siakam

[CGD]

methinks he's talking out of his ass

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We’d be lucky if it was just Murray, Lonnie, Chi Pick, and Thad Young.

[mo7888]

We’d be lucky if it was just Murray, Lonnie, Chi Pick, and Thad Young.

I could see that if Philly likes Siakam and moves our assets to them in a 3 team deal.... or if Portland decides to move McCollum or Lillard and they send our assets there along with some of their own (that assumes that Portland wants to rebuild instead of retool around Simmons).

[SAGirl]

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[John B]

I’m all in for Ben Simmons. Make him the focal point of offense, without waiting on Embiid, and he will deliver. Just surround him with shooters to open the lanes. Make it right, Brian.

[cjw]

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And two years of $35 million cap hits for a guy not playing for them, but who cares about details

That said, they can probably get Schroeder back for free now

[Degoat]

I know we shouldn’t bring this up because it’s probably nothing but Dejounte put on his story a pic of him on a plane that says “They gone hate you today and love you tomorrow, just make sure you get paid on both days.” Kinda weird right?

[LeBowen]

I’m all in for Ben Simmons. Make him the focal point of offense, without waiting on Embiid, and he will deliver. Just surround him with shooters to open the lanes. Make it right, Brian.

Surround him with shooters you say?

We already need shooters to make our starting lineup work, add Simmons into the mix and major roster moves are needed.
Poeltl would definitely have to go.

I don't think Simmons+DJ+Keldon would work, so DJ would have to go, too. Probably in Simmons trade.

I'd only go for Simmons if it's a reasonable price and we also get Myles Turner. Otherwise it doesn't work.

White-Walker-Keldon-Simmons-Turner with McDermott, Vassell, Landale and another veteran PG (and Forbes, ugh) would be decent.

I'd rather trade Withe than Murray, but Murray doesn't fit with Simmons.
And if we want Turner or a similar shooting big (can't think of anyone right now) we probably lose everyone but Keldon+1 young player.

[baseline bum]

I’m all in for Ben Simmons. Make him the focal point of offense, without waiting on Embiid, and he will deliver. Just surround him with shooters to open the lanes. Make it right, Brian.

Why are you setting yourself up like this? Is it that hard to believe this front office is just retarded and McDermott, Collins, and Forbes were the plan?

[objective]

Why are you setting yourself up like this? Is it that hard to believe this front office is just retarded and McDermott, Collins, and Forbes were the plan?

Exactly.

And Forbes can't be saved by anyone's defense around him.

Milwaukee had multiple defensive player of the year winner Giannis, elite rim protection in Lopez, the best perimeter guard defender in the league in Jrue, long and effective Middleton, tough guy PJ, and even they couldn't save Forbes. Forbes level of suck is too strong for the league.

[NASpurs]

Why are you setting yourself up like this? Is it that hard to believe this front office is just retarded and McDermott, Collins, and Forbes were the plan?

Some Spurs fans are still in denial on how their infallible front office can be so stupid. Was Timmy running the front office back then too?

[spurraider21]

Why are you setting yourself up like this? Is it that hard to believe this front office is just retarded and McDermott, Collins, and Forbes were the plan?
we have like 19 guys under contract tho

unless you think the plan was for ownership to just eat 4 contracts

[BillMc]

I know we shouldn’t bring this up because it’s probably nothing but Dejounte put on his story a pic of him on a plane that says “They gone hate you today and love you tomorrow, just make sure you get paid on both days.” Kinda weird right?

Either he's hinting that the Spurs have told him he might be traded.

OR he's showing solidarity with DeMar on his way out.

Or DJ is an immature manchild.

Any could be possible.

[TD 21]

Spurs don't have the centerpiece needed for Simmons nor could whatever iteration of a potential package you want to come up with get them that piece via a third team because it isn't available at the moment (if they wanted Sexton+, Brogdon+, McCollum+, etc., it'd be done).

Siakam is slightly more realistic because the Raptors don't have an Embiid and aren't as married to win now, but even if they're high on White or Murray, I don't see the point of attaching however much draft capital needed for a 27 year old complimentary - pseudo star.

[John B]

Surround him with shooters you say?

We already need shooters to make our starting lineup work, add Simmons into the mix and major roster moves are needed.
Poeltl would definitely have to go.

I don't think Simmons+DJ+Keldon would work, so DJ would have to go, too. Probably in Simmons trade.

I'd only go for Simmons if it's a reasonable price and we also get Myles Turner. Otherwise it doesn't work.

White-Walker-Keldon-Simmons-Turner with McDermott, Vassell, Landale and another veteran PG (and Forbes, ugh) would be decent.

I'd rather trade Withe than Murray, but Murray doesn't fit with Simmons.
And if we want Turner or a similar shooting big (can't think of anyone right now) we probably lose everyone but Keldon+1 young player.

DJ = Simmons are the same and bad spacing together, so DJ has to go
Forbes signing to replace Lonnie, and open lanes. Lonnie can go
Fellow Aussie Landale who can shoot instead of Poeltl, Poeltl can go
Or send Aminu expiring contract to complete the numbers.
Bulls picks

The roster is set, just need a star.

Simmons did not got to Olympics, a lifetime medal opportunity with the current roster that they have, to work on his game after the media trashing. I think he will be back with a big chip on his shoulder. And at 25?

I’m hoping the PATFO is just ironing out the differences. I wouldn’t let this opportunity to snatch a star pass. It could take years of tanking to get a high draft and develop a star. While Simmons is available within reach.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/mrcastilloboy/status/1423024213066145795?s=21

I mean, the confidence has to come from SOMEWHERE…


Sorry Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)

[John B]

https://twitter.com/mrcastilloboy/status/1423024213066145795?s=21

I mean, the confidence has to come from SOMEWHERE…


Sorry Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)

The kid is volatile. He’s too out there, going against Pop in the huddle. I mean, I love that DJ has been working on his game hard but he’s immature. I really rather they give the helm to Derrick, or include him to a trade for Simmons.

[NASpurs]

Let's sign LMA back while we're at it

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[John B]

Let's sign LMA back while we're at it

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I think the Lakers are not done yet :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Ok so there's a big trade going down to get Dinwiddie to the Wizards. The Athletic is reporting it's at least a 4 team trade with the Nets, Lakers, Wizards, Pacers involved. Could become a 6 team deal if Spurs and Bulls get in on this. Nets were reportedly interested in bringing Thad Young back. I assume that's the deal they are up on, but who knows. Definitely think aside from Aminu and Young, Poeltl, Samanic and Walker or Vassell are on the table.


Hearing the most likely outcome is that the Spencer Dinwiddie sign-and-trade becomes part of the Russell Westbrook trade. (https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/2021-nba-free-agency-live-updates-news-analysis-trades/Sv5IIlL9fSee) That would make it, at minimum, a four-team deal (Nets, Lakers, Wizards, Pacers) that includes a sign-and-trade, base-year compensation and the luxury-tax apron, and there may very well be a fifth team involved to drop off unwanted salary. Fasten your seat belts, cap guys; it’s about to get crazy out there

[FutureMan]

https://twitter.com/mrcastilloboy/status/1423024213066145795?s=21

I mean, the confidence has to come from SOMEWHERE…


Sorry Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)

Technically, Murray isn’t leaving. The Spurs would be trading him haha

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1422997253967400960?s=20

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/mrcastilloboy/status/1423024213066145795?s=21

I mean, the confidence has to come from SOMEWHERE…


Sorry Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)
If nothing else, dude's loyal.

[cd98]

Let's sign LMA back while we're at it

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Welp, we don't appear to have an issue overpaying injured players.

[The Truth #6]

Let's sign LMA back while we're at it

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They did a wallet biopsy and saw he needed more money, I’m guessing. Weird to come back.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

[The Truth #6]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

I was thinking the opposite. Probably haggling.

[Robz4000]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

I don't see that at all. If anything these moves say they have no confidence in him.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

Building up for Sixers. We got two budding All-Star on DJ and Lonnie for Simmons

[LeBowen]

Maybe I'm biased, but Lonnie and Keldon are the only players I see as untradeable.

[BackHome]

There is not one player on this team I would not trade for the right price.

[BillMc]

Building up for Sixers. We got two budding All-Star on DJ and Lonnie for Simmons

That's what I was thinking.

Remember when Pop said George Hill was his favorite player....and then almost immediately traded his ass?

[SAGirl]

I know we shouldn’t bring this up because it’s probably nothing but Dejounte put on his story a pic of him on a plane that says “They gone hate you today and love you tomorrow, just make sure you get paid on both days.” Kinda weird right?
A reflection on the Derozan trade?

[slick'81]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

because they arent. If anything theyll buy some guys out or just dump a few minimal contracts somewhere to even out the roster. There is no big move coming:lol

[SAGirl]

Either he's hinting that the Spurs have told him he might be traded.

OR he's showing solidarity with DeMar on his way out.

Or DJ is an immature manchild.

Any could be possible.
I think it’s #2, since Demar ended up getting paid on his way out anyways. All that talk of getting less was just less than a max, by no means discounts.

[BillMc]

I think it’s #2, since Demar ended up getting paid on his way out anyways. All that talk of getting less was just less than a max, by no means discounts.

Yeah, he and DeMar are close, so it is likely.

[Leetonidas]

I think DJ just says shit that he thinks is deep or profound because he's 24 and people look waaay too much into everything. I also think he knows this and likes trolling fans

[SAGirl]

Let's sign LMA back while we're at it

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:nutkick:
But seriously, maybe to play with Lillard…

[Prime BEEF]

I think DJ just says shit that he thinks is deep or profound because he's 24 and people look waaay too much into everything. I also think he knows this and likes trolling fans
This

[Darius Bieber]

Looks like we're in with the Dinwiddie trade.... Can't post a thread since I'm pinked.

[K...]

Its happening !

[Sugus]

Sugus no response? And they signed Forbes

I absolutely want to get back to you on that, but writing that original post was tiresome enough. I limit myself to one essay a day, for Spurstalk's sake :lol

But my answer will not be really changed, tbh. Signing Forbes, while a move I loathe, is absolutely something that gets the Spurs closer to the bottom of the NBA, so in terms of "picking a direction", it could hardly be any more clear, TBQH.

You ever heard of the monkey's paw? You wanted direction... :lol

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1422997253967400960?s=20
How to get in on this? Whats there for interest to the Spurs?

[SAGirl]

They did a wallet biopsy and saw he needed more money, I’m guessing. Weird to come back.
He has struggled with retirement. It was sudden and unexpected. He spoke about how mentally he wasn’t ready to retire. He wasn’t planning on it, just got too spooked by the heart condition. One could perceive from his statements that he was still hungry to play.

I suppose he’s been working out and feels like he has something still to contribute somewhere.

[poopbox]

Our front office can barely sign players for logical amounts of money and do a sign and trade with one team and now we think we can somehow get something useful out of a 6 team trade :lol

We going to fuck around and lose every player we got, end up with 9 second round picks, and have to cancel the season if Wrights dumb ass gets in on this :lol

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this
I think that’s jus that guy’s opinion, not a statement from the franchise.

[SAGirl]

Our front office can barely sign players for logical amounts of money and do a sign and trade with one team and now we think we can somehow get something useful out of a 6 team trade :lol

We going to fuck around and lose every player we got, end up with 9 second round picks, and have to cancel the season if Wrights dumb ass gets in on this :lol
:lol

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1423042362880761858?s=20

[SAGirl]

I think DJ just says shit that he thinks is deep or profound because he's 24 and people look waaay too much into everything. I also think he knows this and likes trolling fans
He is kind of an attention-whore

[John B]

Washington is sending Chandler Hutchinson and a 2022 second-round pick to San Antonio as part of a multi-team deal in the Spencer Dinwiddie sign-and-trade, sources tell ESPN. Brooklyn gets a 2024 second and a 2025 pick swap from Wizards.

[John B]

So was that 17 in the roster now?? :lol

[ace3g]

Forbes is better off on a contender, it's the least we can do.

[Sugus]

What the fuck is going on man :lmao

One thing is certain, those comments everyone made about the FO being "happy with what they had" and that they wouldn't make any moves were dead wrong..... Not like this tho, Wright :lol

[Sugus]

Sugus where you at? :lmao :lmao :lmao I‘m curious how you gonna spin this one

You've got me real mixed up if you think I'll happily spin any sort of moves just because I'm not vitriolic towards the FO all the time, tbh. I too don't expect you to be miserable about every single move the FO makes, you can't be that dumb - right? Don't fall into the us vs them, Sniffers Vs Exhalers smokescreens my guy....


No but seriously, I've never seen posts about roster moves age so terribly in less than 24 hours. That's impressive.

Meh, I still stand by most of what I said. While Forbes' signing is terribly irritating, mainly because we know Pop will overplay him, it's still a relative drop in the bucket to the huge news of DeRozan & Co being off the team. Matter-of-factly, Forbes being here will absolutely help the much-needed tank, even if it sucks to watch... So yeah...

One thing's for sure though, I'm not imparting any more judgement until FA season is over. Damn, does the landscape change every single day, I'm close to getting whiplash :lol

[PhantomDashCam]

If the NBA ever turns into it’s version of LeMans, Spurs are the favourites - Hands…Down.

[RC_Drunkford]

There we go. That means we have how many players on the roster now? 19? Definitely more moves coming

[slick'81]

Spurs about to begin the trading frenzy

[duncan2150]

There we go. That means we have how many players on the roster now? 19? Definitely more moves coming

If they cut Aminu and Hutchinson, give Wieskamp a two way , that's ok.

[cjw]

If they cut Aminu and Hutchinson, give Wieskamp a two way , that's ok.

So they paid $4 million for a second rounder? Good that they’re finally spending money

[RC_Drunkford]

If they cut Aminu and Hutchinson, give Wieskamp a two way , that's ok.

yeah doesn’t look like it though. They sent KBD a qualifying offer and are supposedly in the mix for another Euro. I think they are far from done

[slick'81]

yeah doesn’t look like it though. They sent KBD a qualifying offer and are supposedly in the mix for another Euro. I think they are far from done


They got to have something up their sleeve right?

[RC_Drunkford]

They got to have something up their sleeve right?

they are collecting assets and have 2 expiring contracts. Question is do they collect them for the future or are they trying to collect them to make a move right now to meet the requirements of the other team to get the player they want? Right now I‘d say they got something up their sleeve. Roster is way too overcrowded

[RC_Drunkford]

They got to have something up their sleeve right?

they are collecting assets and have 2 expiring contracts. Question is do they collect them for the future or are they trying to collect them to make a move right now to meet the requirements of the other team to get the player they want? Right now I‘d say they got something up their sleeve. Roster is way too overcrowded

[tbdog]

Who are our expirings?

[ginobilized]

This is the most activity I have ever seen for the Spurs during FA.
It's obviously not done yet, either.
I'm suspending my judgement (condemnation) until Friday when it's likely the dust settles on this chaotic, trick play of an off-season.
Can't say they have been inactive. I'm hoping for a Usual Suspects kind of ending and we get our Keyser Sose All-Star caliber player.
But, then again, it's the hope that kills ya.

[ducks]

Forbes could be expiring might be only a one year also !

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1422999191694057473?s=20

a lot confusing stuff going on with this franchise. Don't think they would move Lonnie if they are saying this

Continue progressing? :lmao

Did Walker last year look like continued progress?

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Aminu, Jefferies, Walker, Samanic, Eubanks ,KBD

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Forbes could be expiring might be only a one year also !

No it was a 2 yr deal. Think only 6 are on expiring contracts if I'm thinking right, which is unlikely

[tbdog]

Continue progressing? :lmao

Did Walker last year look like continued progress?

His 3pt shot looked great.

[spurraider21]

No it was a 2 yr deal. Think only 6 are on expiring contracts if I'm thinking right, which is unlikely
link?

[slick'81]

Aminu, Jefferies, Walker, Samanic, Eubanks ,KBD


Yup ,all cuttable and expendable

[Chomag]

They are saying on NBA tv that Pop is calling it a retool and they are not rebuilding.
Um Pop...who exactly are we retooling around? Old man Probably still think Timmy is still on the team lol

[Texas eye]

Walker is a bum. Trade em.

[offset formation]

link?

Thought I read it somewhere last night but I just Googled it and no contract details seem to be available on any article on it yet.

I might have conflated that he turned down a 2.4M deal to return to Milwaukee into him agreeing to a 2 yr deal.