***** Official All-Inclusive 2020 Election Night Thread *****

[baseline bum]

i'm reading the exact opposite

NATE SILVER (https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/)
NOV. 4, 1:08 AM (https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/293931/)

An Omaha media source says Biden looks good in NE-02.

1323866707472113664


Wow, ABC was the one calling NE-2 for Trump earlier. Really nice pickup, makes the ME-2 vote meaningless then if Biden can pick up ME as a state.

[Trainwreck2100]

Are you sure? If that's teh case then I can finally go to sleep easy. 84% in and trump is holding that 100k vote lead steadily.

Yep abc was reporting that all night

[Joseph Kony]

Once ALL the votes are counted, Biden has this tbh :tu

[Spurminator]

1323869854198304775

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1323865811031785472?s=19

[spurraider21]

Wow, ABC was the one calling NE-2 for Trump earlier. Really nice pickup, makes the ME-2 vote meaningless then if Biden can pick up ME as a state.
if det map with biden getting exactly 270 happens... :lol

[Winehole23]

1323865696279801859

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1323870406294401024?s=19

[ElNono]

1323869854198304775

If he can pull off Georgia or PA, that might be the tiebreaker vote.

[Winehole23]

if det map with biden getting exactly 270 happens... :lol

1323869903426912257

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1323870406294401024?s=19

call what for Trump? NC?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1323866669094240257?s=19
ducks

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1323870406294401024?s=19:lol dude lives in Malaysia.

[TimDunkem]

https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1323866669094240257?s=19
ducks

So Biden still wins AZ.

[baseline bum]

McConnell must feel fucking dumb writing Trump off and shutting down stimulus right before the election. Trump would have won this election going away had McConnell not played such hardball.

[FlAVaK]

So Biden needs 70% of the 2m mail vote to get an 1.4m to 0.6m advantage to make up for that 700k...

[Spurminator]

Ah yes the coveted 1:00 a.m. eastern time cable ratings...

[MASSA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

[FkLA]

smh

https://twitter.com/Latinos4Bernie/status/1323856544979714055?s=19

[FrostKing]

McConnell must feel fucking dumb writing Trump off and shutting down stimulus right before the election. Trump would have won this election going away had McConnell not played such hardball.
Neither party elite has a pulse on the people

[Reck]

Huge batch of votes just got dumped in Nevada that put Biden up comfortably.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1323872605389103105?s=19

ugh

[Chris]

Huge batch of votes just got dumped in Nevada that put Biden up comfortably.

50% reporting

Trump doesnt need Nevada

[ElNono]

So Biden needs 70% of the 2m mail vote to get an 1.4m to 0.6m advantage to make up for that 700k...

Not necessarily. Philadelphia county has reported < 50% so far, there's still some gains to be had by Biden from big cities.

[Chris]

John James has won the Senate Seat in Michigan and flipped a seat red

[Spurtacular]

:lol NYT barely calling TX at 700K vote difference and 93% reporting.

Sad.

[FkLA]

So Biden still wins AZ.

Biden up 160k

900k votes outstanding
Trump 2-1 would be: Trump 600k, Biden 300k

[Reck]

CNN projects ND-2 goes to Biden.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1323872605389103105?s=19

ugh

Oh good, was sweating that one

[Blake]

Not sure what you're looking at, but PA and/or Georgia are certainly the conduit.

I don't see why anyone is thinking Biden can win Georgia at this point unless you're just holding out hope

[ElNono]

Biden up 160k

900k votes outstanding
Trump 2-1 would be: Trump 600k, Biden 300k

Nah, she said half of the votes are Maricopa and those are breaking 2-1.

That would make the gap 150k, potentially flipping Maricopa, but there's still more votes to be counted in the Pima county where Joe has a sizeable lead.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1323870026756059136?s=19

[Spurtacular]

Lol absence. You're an idiot

You and Chump bunker bitched.

Were probably giving each other handies.

[ElNono]

I don't see why anyone is thinking Biden can win Georgia at this point unless you're just holding out hope

In what sense? Georgia stopped counting from big blue cities until tomorrow. The early returns were surprisingly good, thus why nobody has called that state yet.

[TimDunkem]

Biden up 160k

900k votes outstanding
Trump 2-1 would be: Trump 600k, Biden 300k

Tbh I don't think that's the ratio. AZ flipping blue PERIOD.

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1323870026756059136?s=19

Not sure what he's trying to say.

[Blake]

Victory for mainstream propaganda and big tech. A lot of low info voters out there.

Yeah we see a lot of you here in this thread

[Russ]

Looks like Biden needs to take two of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.

[Winehole23]

Georgia erroneously scrubbed ~200,000 voters

https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/politics-government/article245437420.html

1323857009456877571 (https://twitter.com/hamiltonnolan/status/1323857009456877571?s=20)

[Spurtacular]

Biden up 160k

900k votes outstanding
Trump 2-1 would be: Trump 600k, Biden 300k

Yea, cause for hope.

[Blake]

In what sense? Georgia stopped counting from big blue cities until tomorrow. The early returns were surprisingly good, thus why nobody has called that state yet.

Biden is 250k+ votes down in Georgia. I don't see how he gets that back at this point.

[ElNono]

Looks like Biden needs to take two of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.

So does Trump.

[baseline bum]

In what sense? Georgia stopped counting from big blue cities until tomorrow. The early returns were surprisingly good, thus why nobody has called that state yet.

Thought I read GA decided to count through the night?

[TimDunkem]

Biden is 250k+ votes down in Georgia. I don't see how he gets that back at this point.

Fulton, DeKalb, etc.

[Blake]

You and Chump bunker bitched.

Were probably giving each other handies.

Derp leaving no doubt about what and who he thinks about when he's bunkered down at night

[ElNono]

Biden is 250k+ votes down in Georgia. I don't see how he gets that back at this point.

It's gonna have to come from Atlanta and surroundings.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1323874623415558144?s=19

[IronMexican]

Oh good, was sweating that one

Inescapable amount of signs up for Joe Collins here. Not on anyone's yards, but plastard every where. Surprised tbh

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1323874623415558144?s=19

87% estimated by NYT.

Suspicious considering they're already 600K beyond the 2016 total.

Edit: 91% with a 118K lead. Suspiciously sharp drop

[MASSA]

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/467/064/original/92e23d2f6011727f.png

[baseline bum]

Man I'm starting to really doubt Wisconsin and Michigan

[TimDunkem]

Well over a couple million outstanding votes in PA. 650k mail ins alone in the SE part of the state EXCLUDING Philly.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SBAList/status/1323875487245099008?s=19

[ElNono]

Fulton is at 72% right now, DeKalb at 79%, Clayton 84%, and the vote looks like this:

Donald J. Trump* Republican 2,365,653 50.6%
Joseph R. Biden Jr. Democrat 2,247,576 48.1%

Not sure where DDHQ got a > 99% votes in from...

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MaxMMarin/status/1323872507334713351?s=19

[baseline bum]

Fulton is at 72% right now, DeKalb at 79%, Clayton 84%, and the vote looks like this:

Donald J. Trump* Republican 2,365,653 50.6%
Joseph R. Biden Jr. Democrat 2,247,576 48.1%

Not sure where DDHQ got a > 99% votes in from...

Double Dong HQ pulled it out their ass bro

[DAF86]

Trump is going to win again. :lol

[spurraider21]

Biden is 250k+ votes down in Georgia. I don't see how he gets that back at this point.
91% of the vote in, margin is less than 120k votes now. NYT giving Biden a 64% chance in GA right now

[TimDunkem]

Trump's lead in Georgia narrows with 9% outstanding. Votes missing from Dem strongholds. Still in play.

[RD2191]

Let's stop deluding ourselves, this shit is over, Trump has it in the bag.

[DAF86]

4 more years of civil wars. Sorry sons.

[Spurminator]

How's Kanye doing?

[Russ]

Man I'm starting to really doubt Wisconsin and Michigan

Wisconsin is supposed to be called before morning.

[Nathan89]

Let's stop deluding ourselves, this shit is over, Trump has it in the bag.

Biden actually does tbh

[IronMexican]

How's Kanye doing?

Very upset at Biden about that. Had he dropped, we might have Kanye as veep.

Should have stepped aside for the more electable candidate

[FrostKing]

4 more years of civil wars. Sorry sons.
Trump won the brown vote. American Dream lives on. Prepare for the sequel.

[FkLA]

GA is gonna come down to the wire. :wow

[ElNono]

Man I'm starting to really doubt Wisconsin and Michigan

I have my doubts on WI, but IIRC, MI hasn't counted mail in ballots yet, and so it was expected that (R) would look strong at the end of the night.

AFAIK, the state said full unofficial results might not be done until Nov 6.

[baseline bum]

Biden isn't making up any fucking ground in WI and MI. I think he's going to fucking blow it in at least Michigan.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1323878739097341953?s=19

hot :wow

[baseline bum]

I have my doubts on WI, but IIRC, MI hasn't counted mail in ballots yet, and so it was expected that (R) would look strong at the end of the night.

AFAIK, the state said full unofficial results might not be done until Nov 6.

They're already at 63% reporting in Michigan though. Biden's down 8.4 points right now.

[DAF86]

Sanders would have beaten Trump's ass the last two elections. It's all on you democrats.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1323878397202878465?s=19

[TimDunkem]

They're already at 63% reporting in Michigan though. Biden's down 8.4 points right now.

The missing votes are Biden's. Book it, brah.

[Chris]

Sanders would have beaten Trump's ass the last two elections. It's all on you democrats.

Tulsi was their best bet

[ElNono]

They're already at 63% reporting in Michigan though. Biden's down 8.4 points right now.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287660&p=10319904&viewfull=1#post10319904

[Winehole23]

Not sure what he's trying to say.The Trump narrative is that election day is the whole election. It's bullshit.

[Spurtacular]

The Trump narrative is that election day is the whole election. It's bullshit.

It pretty much is; but they're dragging their feet cos of all the shenanigans.

[Robz4000]

They're already at 63% reporting in Michigan though. Biden's down 8.4 points right now.

Most of those missing votes are from Detroit.

[baseline bum]

Nevada feels too close for comfort, especially with the way mojados have been voting tonight

[TimDunkem]

Nevada feels too close for comfort, especially with the way mojados have been voting tonight

Not many votes left for Trump. Still plenty from Vegas to count. Biden wins NV.

Although I admit that I'm surprised it's even this close.

[ElNono]

They're already at 63% reporting in Michigan though. Biden's down 8.4 points right now.

63% of 3.6 millions votes counted so far means, there's still ~2.1 million votes still to be counted. The difference is 320k right now.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1323879102823211008?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

Sanders would have beaten Trump's ass the last two elections. It's all on you democrats.

I don't know if that's true but it is funny that Trump is getting voters who would have voted Bernie and Biden is getting voters who wish they were voting for Jeb!

[baseline bum]

63% of 3.6 millions votes counted so far means, there's still ~2.1 million votes still to be counted. The difference is 320k right now.

Detroit looks pretty shitty in the in-person votes today. That's a lot of ground to make up if you're not going to be just completely dominating in the area in the mail-ins.

[ElNono]

Detroit looks pretty shitty in the in-person votes today. That's a lot of ground to make up if you're not going to be just completely dominating in the area in the mail-ins.

The question is what are they counting, and what's mail in vs in person.

I do think Miami-Dade was somewhat an announcement of what black people thought of another old white candidate though. Not surprising either.

[Nathan89]

Just hoping for the senate at this point tbh

[baseline bum]

The question is what are they counting, and what's mail in vs in person.

I do think Miami-Dade was somewhat an announcement of what black people thought of another old white candidate though. Not surprising either.

Miami-Dade was fucking Cubans voting +14R vs 2016.

[ElNono]

Talking about the Senate, did Susan Collins win again?

[FkLA]

Nevada feels too close for comfort, especially with the way mojados have been voting tonight

Y'all wanted to pander to blacks. Thought you were entitled to the Latino vote. :rolleyes

[ElNono]

Miami-Dade was fucking Cubans voting +14R vs 2016.

Barry carried that shit twice with black voters. Nobody showed up for old Joe today.

[spurraider21]

Y'all wanted to pander to blacks. Thought you were entitled to the Latino vote. :rolleyes
Trump panders to whites yet you still delivered your vote to him :lol

[baseline bum]

Barry carried that shit twice with black voters. Nobody showed up for old Joe today.

Fucking mayates are why Biden got the nomination. God damn Massa Clyburne. Still, Trump shitting on relations with Cuba looks like an enormous factor. Can't ignore a +14 turn to the GOP in the area that fucked Biden.

[Winehole23]

It pretty much is; but they're dragging their feet cos of all the shenanigans.Not at all, it's all acoording to state laws. All 50 states count in person votes after electon day and something like 18 accept and count absentee ballots after election day.

In addition, the constitutional safe harbor for certification of poll returns is 35 days after election day. The election isn't over until votes are counted and certified. Six days after that, the EC votes.



tate and Citation
Deadline by Which Election Officials Must Receive Absentee/Mailed Ballots
Does the State Accept Postmarked Ballots that Arrive After Election Day?


Alabama
Ala. Code § 17-11-18
Election Day (by noon) and postmarked by the day before the election.
No


Alaska
AS § 15.20.081(e) and (h)
Election Day or 10 days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Arizona
A.R.S. 16-547
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Arkansas
A.C.A. § 7-5-411
Election Day (by 7:30 p.m.) for mailed ballots or close of business the day before the election for hand-delivered ballots.
No


California
West's Ann. Cal. Elect. Code § 3020
Election Day (before polls close) or three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Colorado
C.R.S. § 1-7.5-107
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Connecticut
Conn. Gen. Stat. 45-9-140b
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Delaware
Del. Code Ann. § 15-55-5508
Election Day (before polls close)
No


District of Columbia
DC ST § 1-1001.05(a)(10A)
Seven days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Florida
West's F.S.A. §101.67
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Georgia
GA Code Ann. 183-1-14
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Hawaii
Act 136, SLH 2019
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Idaho
Idaho Code 10-34-1005
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Illinois
10 ILCS 5/19-8, 10 ILCS 5/18A-15
Fourteen days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Indiana
IC 3-12-1-17
Election Day
No


Iowa
Iowa Code § 53.17(2)
Election Day (before polls close) or noon the Monday following the election if postmarked by the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Kansas
K.S.A. 25-1132
Three days after the election if postmarked before the close of polls on Election Day.
Yes


Kentucky
Ky. Rev. Stat. 117.086
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Louisiana
LSA-R.S. 18:1311
The day before the election.
No


Maine
Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. 21-A § 755
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Maryland
MD Code, Election Law, § 9-505
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Massachusetts
Mass. Gen. Laws Ann. Section 95
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Michigan
Mich. Comp. Laws 168.764a
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Minnesota
Minn. Stat. 203B.08
Election Day (before polls close) for mailed/absentee ballots or 3 p.m. on Election Day for hand-delivered ballots.
No


Mississippi
Miss. Code Ann. § 23-15-637
Five business days after Election Day if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Missouri
Mo. Rev. Stat. 115.293
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Montana
Mont. Code Ann. 13-13-232
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nebraska
Nebraska Revised Statute 32-950
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nevada
NV Rev Stat § 293.317
By 5 p.m. on the seventh day after Election Day if postmarked by Election Day. Ballots with unclear postmarks must be received by 5 p.m. on the third day after Election Day.
Yes


New Hampshire
NH Rev Stat § 657:22
Election Day (by 5 p.m.)
No


New Jersey
N.J.S.A. 19:63-22
Forty-eight hours after polls close if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


New Mexico
N.M. Stat. Ann. 1-6-10(B)
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


New York
McKinney's Election Law § 8-412
Election Day (before polls close) for hand-delivered ballots or seven days after the election for mailed ballots postmarked on Election Day.
Yes


North Carolina
N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163A-1310
Three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


North Dakota
NDCC 16.1-07-09
The day before the election. Before the canvass if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Ohio
R.C. § 3509.05
Ten days after the election if postmarked by the day before Election Day.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Oklahoma
26 OK Stat § 26-14-104
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Oregon
Or. Rev. Stat. §253.070
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Pennsylvania
25 P.S. § 3146.8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Rhode Island
RI Gen L § 17-20-8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


South Carolina
SC Code § 7-15-420
Election Day (before polls close)
No


South Dakota
S.D. Codified Laws Ann. 12-19-12
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Tennessee
Tenn. Code Ann. 2-6-304
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Texas
Texas Election Code § 86.007
The day after the election by 5 p.m. if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Utah
Utah Code Ann. § 20A-3a-204
Seven to 14 days after the election (by the county canvass date) if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Vermont
Vermont Statutes Title 17. Elections, § 2543
Absentee votes must be returned to the town clerk's office before the close of business on the day before the election, or to the polling place by 7pm on Election Day.
No


Virginia
Va. Code 24.2-709
Three days after the election (by noon) if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Washington
West's RCWA 29A.40.091
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


West Virginia
W. Va. Code, § 3-3-5, § 3-5-17
Five days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Wisconsin
Wis. Stat. 6.87(6)
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Wyoming
Wyo. Stat. 22-9-119
Election Day (before polls close)
No




https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-11-receipt-and-postmark-deadlines-for-absentee-ballots.aspx

[Nathan89]

Trump panders to whites yet you still delivered your vote to him :lol

This is false. Also the dems hate whites.

[spurraider21]

This is false. Also the dems hate whites.
This is false.

[TimDunkem]

This is false. Also the dems hate whites.

I love white women.

[FkLA]

Trump panders to whites yet you still delivered your vote to him :lol

Yeah, I haven't seen a WLM movement. Or Trump championing white criminals.

Trump invited Vanessa Guillen's family to the white house, even if it was for just a photo shoot. Didn't see shit from Dems. They were too busy championing black criminals.

[Chris]

projections 294 electoral votes for Trump

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El9NTNgXUAchcmk?format=jpg&name=large

[ElNono]

Fucking mayates are why Biden got the nomination. God damn Massa Clyburne. Still, Trump shitting on relations with Cuba looks like an enormous factor. Can't ignore a +14 turn to the GOP in the area that fucked Biden.

I had Florida going to Trump since Biden basically told the local supporters not to canvass. This coming from a guy that spent half his campaign in the freezer.

There's going to be a bunch of these self-inflicted wounds along the way.

[ElNono]

projections 294 electoral votes for Trump

You're projecting?

[Nathan89]

projections 294 electoral votes for Trump nobody is projecting this

[DAF86]

Joe Biden sons, really? Joe fucking Biden. That's a Republican type candidate. Yall fucked up sons. The worst part is Sanders is too fucking old. He can't campaign no more.

[spurraider21]

NATE SILVER (https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/)
NOV. 4, 2:17 AM (https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/294022/)

One thing to keep in mind about Pennsylvania is that the mail votes were VERY blue there — Democrats led 66 percent to 23 percent on them by party registration (https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html). So although Trump’s lead is larger there than in Wisconsin or Michigan, Biden should also get a stronger blue shift there.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1323883970359119872?s=19

[Chris]

nobody is projecting this

mr reagan reporting don't know where he's getting the numbers from tbh

[Chris]

POTUS speaking rn

[ElNono]

going to sleep niglets... don't cut wrists just yet... looking at you Blake :lol

[RD2191]

Trump already saying the election is a fraud. :lol

[baseline bum]

going to sleep niglets... don't cut wrists just yet... looking at you Blake :lol

Remember, down the road, not across it.

[FkLA]

MAGA :claw

[ElNono]

Remember, down the road, not across it.

:lol

[RD2191]

MAGA :claw
:lolShut the fuck up

[rmt]

Georgia erroneously scrubbed ~200,000 voters

https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/politics-government/article245437420.html

1323857009456877571 (https://twitter.com/hamiltonnolan/status/1323857009456877571?s=20)

Here is the text:

No. 4 Constitutional Amendment Article VI, Section 4. Voting Restoration Amendment This amendment restores the voting rights of Floridians with felony convictions after they complete all terms of their sentence including parole or probation. The amendment would not apply to those convicted of murder or sexual offenses, who would continue to be permanently barred from voting unless the Governor and Cabinet vote to restore their voting rights on a case by case basis.

Sentence usually includes prison time and fine.

[baseline bum]

Going to sleep too... here's my guess... because 2020

https://i.ibb.co/5v96TDy/0000000000000000000000000000000000000000.png

[ducks]

Trump speech makes sence
Biden speech was stupid

[ElNono]

Trump speech makes sence
Biden speech was stupid

1323889051037028353

[Winehole23]

Trump already saying the election is a fraud. :lolJust said he won.

"We're going to the Supreme Court and we want all voting to stop."

[RD2191]

:lolThis guy is a fucking psycho.

[Chris]

Going to sleep too... here's my guess... because 2020

https://i.ibb.co/5v96TDy/0000000000000000000000000000000000000000.png

add 16 for georgia (which Trump won) and you got 294

[Joseph Kony]

here we go, president fat fuck openly calling to cheat the election

[Winehole23]

add 16 for georgia (which Trump won) and you got 294That's up to the voters, not you or Mr. Trump.

[ducks]

Trump still can win Arizona

[FrostKing]

^ Map

Trump in position to surrender 1 state. Georgia or Wisconsin to mail ballots. 2 or more state flips would fuel anger.

[Chris]

Trump still can win Arizona

yup then Trump would have 305

[ElNono]

^ Map

Trump in position to surrender 1 state. Georgia or Wisconsin to mail ballots. 2 or more state flips would fuel anger.

Anger from who?

[FkLA]

:lolThis guy is a fucking psycho.

That's the back to back POTUS you're talking about, pendejo.

[JamStone]

Lol Pence just talked about the integrity of the vote to try to soften the idiocy of what Trump said

[RD2191]

Civil war gonna pop off sons. Pick a side.

[RD2191]

That's the back to back POTUS you're talking about, pendejo.
Pendeja tu madre.

[Winehole23]

STOP THE VOTING


(except in Arizona)

[baseline bum]

Civil war gonna pop off sons. Pick a side.

Fuck that shit, US ain't worth saving. I'm gonna get ElNono to smuggle me on the good side of the river.

[ElNono]

Fuck that shit, US ain't worth saving. I'm gonna get ElNono to smuggle me on the good side of the river.

:lol

Just remember to stretch before going out flipping cars tonight, tbh

[baseline bum]

We haven't seen DOK in a while tonight. Wonder if he's out chunking molotovs at the WH.

[RD2191]

Fuck that shit, US ain't worth saving. I'm gonna get ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) to smuggle me on the good side of the river.
:lol

[Winehole23]

good news for Mississippi

1323855371803545602

[ducks]

MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace shares bad Florida news with Biden fans: 'You can hear liquor cabinets opening'

[ElNono]

MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace shares bad Florida news with Biden fans: 'You can hear liquor cabinets opening'

Probably Darrin...


anyways... c ya all in the AM

[baseline bum]

Probably Darrin...


anyways... c ya all in the AM

You can't get me across the river now? Fuck. At least they have a decent president in AMLO.

[TimDunkem]

My original map.


https://www.270towin.com/maps/J0ZrX.png

Give NC and GA to Trump if you want. In the end, Biden wins. Goodnight.

[ducks]

Cnn guy said they would rather be in the presidents shoes then biden

[ducks]

I really don’t understand how you can submit ballots AFTER Election Day Face with tears of joy mind as well call it election week then

[Winehole23]

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[baseline bum]

1323892606305214465

The pos is probably going to win even without the courts :pctoss

[ducks]

One county in the key swing state of Pennsylvania has already found itself involved in a legal challenge, following claims that it violated the state's election code by pre-canvassing mail-in ballots prior to Election Day.

A federal judge ruled that Montgomery County Board of Election officials need to stop contacting voters who did not submit their ballots correctly, though it is yet to be determined what will happen to ballots that were opened early and changed, as reported by the Bucks County Courier Times on Tuesday. Ballots that were modified must be kept separate from the rest of the group until further notice.

A hearing on the issue is scheduled to take place on Wednesday.

The county has been accused of not only starting the pre-canvassing process early – which is against the law – but also giving voters who did not submit their ballots correctly the opportunity to “re-vote,” according to the complaint. That includes people who may have forgotten to sign or place their ballot in the “secrecy envelope,” which are necessary steps in order for their votes to be counted.

[Chris]

1323892606305214465

keep dreaming :lol

[Spurtacular]

Not at all, it's all acoording to state laws. All 50 states count in person votes after electon day and something like 18 accept and count absentee ballots after election day.

In addition, the constitutional safe harbor for certification of poll returns is 35 days after election day. The election isn't over until votes are counted and certified. Six days after that, the EC votes.



tate and Citation
Deadline by Which Election Officials Must Receive Absentee/Mailed Ballots
Does the State Accept Postmarked Ballots that Arrive After Election Day?


Alabama
Ala. Code § 17-11-18
Election Day (by noon) and postmarked by the day before the election.
No


Alaska
AS § 15.20.081(e) and (h)
Election Day or 10 days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Arizona
A.R.S. 16-547
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Arkansas
A.C.A. § 7-5-411
Election Day (by 7:30 p.m.) for mailed ballots or close of business the day before the election for hand-delivered ballots.
No


California
West's Ann. Cal. Elect. Code § 3020
Election Day (before polls close) or three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Colorado
C.R.S. § 1-7.5-107
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Connecticut
Conn. Gen. Stat. 45-9-140b
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Delaware
Del. Code Ann. § 15-55-5508
Election Day (before polls close)
No


District of Columbia
DC ST § 1-1001.05(a)(10A)
Seven days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Florida
West's F.S.A. §101.67
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Georgia
GA Code Ann. 183-1-14
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Hawaii
Act 136, SLH 2019
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Idaho
Idaho Code 10-34-1005
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Illinois
10 ILCS 5/19-8, 10 ILCS 5/18A-15
Fourteen days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Indiana
IC 3-12-1-17
Election Day
No


Iowa
Iowa Code § 53.17(2)
Election Day (before polls close) or noon the Monday following the election if postmarked by the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Kansas
K.S.A. 25-1132
Three days after the election if postmarked before the close of polls on Election Day.
Yes


Kentucky
Ky. Rev. Stat. 117.086
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Louisiana
LSA-R.S. 18:1311
The day before the election.
No


Maine
Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. 21-A § 755
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Maryland
MD Code, Election Law, § 9-505
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Massachusetts
Mass. Gen. Laws Ann. Section 95
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Michigan
Mich. Comp. Laws 168.764a
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Minnesota
Minn. Stat. 203B.08
Election Day (before polls close) for mailed/absentee ballots or 3 p.m. on Election Day for hand-delivered ballots.
No


Mississippi
Miss. Code Ann. § 23-15-637
Five business days after Election Day if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Missouri
Mo. Rev. Stat. 115.293
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Montana
Mont. Code Ann. 13-13-232
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nebraska
Nebraska Revised Statute 32-950
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nevada
NV Rev Stat § 293.317
By 5 p.m. on the seventh day after Election Day if postmarked by Election Day. Ballots with unclear postmarks must be received by 5 p.m. on the third day after Election Day.
Yes


New Hampshire
NH Rev Stat § 657:22
Election Day (by 5 p.m.)
No


New Jersey
N.J.S.A. 19:63-22
Forty-eight hours after polls close if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


New Mexico
N.M. Stat. Ann. 1-6-10(B)
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


New York
McKinney's Election Law § 8-412
Election Day (before polls close) for hand-delivered ballots or seven days after the election for mailed ballots postmarked on Election Day.
Yes


North Carolina
N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163A-1310
Three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


North Dakota
NDCC 16.1-07-09
The day before the election. Before the canvass if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Ohio
R.C. § 3509.05
Ten days after the election if postmarked by the day before Election Day.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Oklahoma
26 OK Stat § 26-14-104
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Oregon
Or. Rev. Stat. §253.070
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Pennsylvania
25 P.S. § 3146.8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Rhode Island
RI Gen L § 17-20-8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


South Carolina
SC Code § 7-15-420
Election Day (before polls close)
No


South Dakota
S.D. Codified Laws Ann. 12-19-12
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Tennessee
Tenn. Code Ann. 2-6-304
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Texas
Texas Election Code § 86.007
The day after the election by 5 p.m. if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Utah
Utah Code Ann. § 20A-3a-204
Seven to 14 days after the election (by the county canvass date) if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Vermont
Vermont Statutes Title 17. Elections, § 2543
Absentee votes must be returned to the town clerk's office before the close of business on the day before the election, or to the polling place by 7pm on Election Day.
No


Virginia
Va. Code 24.2-709
Three days after the election (by noon) if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Washington
West's RCWA 29A.40.091
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


West Virginia
W. Va. Code, § 3-3-5, § 3-5-17
Five days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Wisconsin
Wis. Stat. 6.87(6)
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Wyoming
Wyo. Stat. 22-9-119
Election Day (before polls close)
No




https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-11-receipt-and-postmark-deadlines-for-absentee-ballots.aspx


Pakman read that off on his election show?

[phxspurfan]

To be fair, the right loves their ticket. The left put up a zombie rapist and a commie hyena.

Pretty much this. America has spoken. I shall revert back to my Bernie loving ways :lol fuckin Biden fuckin Shilary damn you both

[Spurtacular]

Georgia has been at 91 percent reporting for about 80 minutes now. Ridiculous.

[Winehole23]

I really don’t understand how you can submit ballots AFTER Election Day Face with tears of joy mind as well call it election week thenThat's because you don't understand how elections work.

All 50 states count votes after the polls close until they're all counted (which can take days and weeks), 18 of them accept and tally absentee ballots that arrive after election day.

States have 35 days after election day to certify the results, and the US President isn't elected until six days after that.



State and Citation
Deadline by Which Election Officials Must Receive Absentee/Mailed Ballots
Does the State Accept Postmarked Ballots that Arrive After Election Day?


Alabama
Ala. Code § 17-11-18
Election Day (by noon) and postmarked by the day before the election.
No


Alaska
AS § 15.20.081(e) and (h)
Election Day or 10 days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Arizona
A.R.S. 16-547
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Arkansas
A.C.A. § 7-5-411
Election Day (by 7:30 p.m.) for mailed ballots or close of business the day before the election for hand-delivered ballots.
No


California
West's Ann. Cal. Elect. Code § 3020
Election Day (before polls close) or three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Colorado
C.R.S. § 1-7.5-107
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Connecticut
Conn. Gen. Stat. 45-9-140b
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Delaware
Del. Code Ann. § 15-55-5508
Election Day (before polls close)
No


District of Columbia
DC ST § 1-1001.05(a)(10A)
Seven days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Florida
West's F.S.A. §101.67
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Georgia
GA Code Ann. 183-1-14
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Hawaii
Act 136, SLH 2019
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Idaho
Idaho Code 10-34-1005
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Illinois
10 ILCS 5/19-8, 10 ILCS 5/18A-15
Fourteen days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Indiana
IC 3-12-1-17
Election Day
No


Iowa
Iowa Code § 53.17(2)
Election Day (before polls close) or noon the Monday following the election if postmarked by the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Kansas
K.S.A. 25-1132
Three days after the election if postmarked before the close of polls on Election Day.
Yes


Kentucky
Ky. Rev. Stat. 117.086
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Louisiana
LSA-R.S. 18:1311
The day before the election.
No


Maine
Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. 21-A § 755
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Maryland
MD Code, Election Law, § 9-505
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Massachusetts
Mass. Gen. Laws Ann. Section 95
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Michigan
Mich. Comp. Laws 168.764a
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Minnesota
Minn. Stat. 203B.08
Election Day (before polls close) for mailed/absentee ballots or 3 p.m. on Election Day for hand-delivered ballots.
No


Mississippi
Miss. Code Ann. § 23-15-637
Five business days after Election Day if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Missouri
Mo. Rev. Stat. 115.293
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Montana
Mont. Code Ann. 13-13-232
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nebraska
Nebraska Revised Statute 32-950
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Nevada
NV Rev Stat § 293.317
By 5 p.m. on the seventh day after Election Day if postmarked by Election Day. Ballots with unclear postmarks must be received by 5 p.m. on the third day after Election Day.
Yes


New Hampshire
NH Rev Stat § 657:22
Election Day (by 5 p.m.)
No


New Jersey
N.J.S.A. 19:63-22
Forty-eight hours after polls close if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


New Mexico
N.M. Stat. Ann. 1-6-10(B)
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


New York
McKinney's Election Law § 8-412
Election Day (before polls close) for hand-delivered ballots or seven days after the election for mailed ballots postmarked on Election Day.
Yes


North Carolina
N.C. Gen. Stat. § 163A-1310
Three days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


North Dakota
NDCC 16.1-07-09
The day before the election. Before the canvass if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Ohio
R.C. § 3509.05
Ten days after the election if postmarked by the day before Election Day.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Oklahoma
26 OK Stat § 26-14-104
Election Day (by 7 p.m.)
No


Oregon
Or. Rev. Stat. §253.070
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Pennsylvania
25 P.S. § 3146.8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Rhode Island
RI Gen L § 17-20-8
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


South Carolina
SC Code § 7-15-420
Election Day (before polls close)
No


South Dakota
S.D. Codified Laws Ann. 12-19-12
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Tennessee
Tenn. Code Ann. 2-6-304
Election Day (before polls close)
No


Texas
Texas Election Code § 86.007
The day after the election by 5 p.m. if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Utah
Utah Code Ann. § 20A-3a-204
Seven to 14 days after the election (by the county canvass date) if postmarked the day before the election.
Yes (must be postmarked the day before the election)


Vermont
Vermont Statutes Title 17. Elections, § 2543
Absentee votes must be returned to the town clerk's office before the close of business on the day before the election, or to the polling place by 7pm on Election Day.
No


Virginia
Va. Code 24.2-709
Three days after the election (by noon) if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Washington
West's RCWA 29A.40.091
Postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


West Virginia
W. Va. Code, § 3-3-5, § 3-5-17
Five days after the election if postmarked on or before Election Day.
Yes


Wisconsin
Wis. Stat. 6.87(6)
Election Day (by 8 p.m.)
No


Wyoming
Wyo. Stat. 22-9-119
Election Day (before polls close)
No





https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...e-ballots.aspx (https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-11-receipt-and-postmark-deadlines-for-absentee-ballots.aspx)

[Isitjustme?]

Barry carried that shit twice with black voters. Nobody showed up for old Joe today.

Silly to compare any candidate to Obama who was the first black candidate for president and who had insane popularity among African Americans that will likely never be duplicated even by another black candidate. I know Hillary did about as well as a standard Democrat with blacks in 16.

Really more than anything last two elections make Obama look better considering he won 365 and 332 electoral college votes. Dude won Iowa twice even.

[slick'81]

Looking like another four years of trump:shootme

[Spurtacular]

Pretty much this. America has spoken. I shall revert back to my Bernie loving ways :lol fuckin Biden fuckin Shilary damn you both

Trying to think of any Democrats I like; none coming to mind right away.

[Winehole23]

Georgia has been at 91 percent reporting for about 80 minutes now. Ridiculous.What's ridiculous about it? The delay in Fulton County was announced hours ago. I believe there's another large county that won't have its unofficial tally (all tallies are unofficial until certification) until tomorrow. There's nothing unusual about counting votes after election day.

[Winehole23]

Pakman read that off on his election show?Couldn't tell you, I don't follow him.

[phxspurfan]

Joe Biden sons, really? Joe fucking Biden. That's a Republican type candidate. Yall fucked up sons. The worst part is Sanders is too fucking old. He can't campaign no more.

Bernie would have done better than this. He would have been hitting the pavement much more

[tbdog]

Looking like another four years of trump:shootme

I'm getting mixed messages on who's winning. If must be close.

[Isitjustme?]

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[Spurtacular]

Couldn't tell you, I don't follow him.

Why don't you follow him? His views are right up your alley.

[Spurtacular]

What's ridiculous about it? The delay in Fulton County was announced hours ago. I believe there's another large county that won't have its unofficial tally (all tallies are unofficial until certification) until tomorrow. There's nothing unusual about counting votes after election day.

Still says 91 percent on NYT and is 94 percent on FNC. These numbers have been fishy all night long.

[Spurtacular]

Got to agree with the various posters who have already called it. This is a Trump victory. Even if Dems somehow steal GA, Trump has WI (along with PA and MI).

[Spurtacular]

1323888133390348288

Alpha Trump calling out the lowlifes trying to steal the election!
Protect the integrity of the vote!

[Spurtacular]

The administration of this election was a disgrace. Democrats holding the American people hostage. Par.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Biden's gonna steal WI and MI at the last minute with the Milwaukee and Detroit votes.

[boutons_deux]

Third world county ought to do a better election

As with the The Trump-Made Pandemic killing more than other wealthy countries, the industrial countries also have more reliable, more efficient election systems.

America's intentionally disastrous election system is more evidence of a failed state.

[Spurtacular]

GA vote counters forced off the jobs in the middle of counting and leaving ballots unaccounted.
Totally scandalous.

[Spurtacular]

Biden's gonna steal WI and MI at the last minute with the Milwaukee and Detroit votes.

MI not getting stolen; though they want to.

They're trying to steal WI and GA; but I don't think they're getting either.

GA Fulton County has a more than 50 Repub area that had delays that isn't part of the count.

The writing is on the wall. Trump won the election.

[midnightpulp]

So it begins.

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[midnightpulp]

^Biden now up 20K in WI.

[midnightpulp]

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[Rummpd]

Back on and this is a big change in WI but is it definite for JB.

[boutons_deux]

WI = 10 EC votes.

[boutons_deux]

If Biden just breaks through 270,

Repugs will "Brooks Brothers riot" contest a few states

which means those states' EC votes will not count until contesting is resolved.

The Repugs could drag out the contests past the 28 Dec deadline, disenfranchising entire states, which is when the states must submit their EC votes. 6 Jan is when Congress tallies the votes.

The Repugs have been trying to get some Repug-controlled states to select "faithless electors" who would vote for Trump if Biden won the state.

( btw, 5 electors abandoned Hillary to vote Trash, and 2 abandoned Trash to vote for Hillary )

Again, the FUCKED UP anti-democratic Constitution is fucking disaster.

[FrostKing]

If Biden just breaks through 270,

Repugs will "Brooks Brothers riot" contest a few states

which means those states' EC votes will not count until contesting is resolved.

The Repugs could drag out the contests past the 28 Dec deadline, disenfranchising entire states, which is when the states must submit their EC votes. 6 Jan is when Congress tallies the votes.

The Repugs have been trying to get some Repug-controlled states to select "faithless electors" who would vote for Trump if Biden won the state.

( btw, 5 electors abandoned Hillary to vote Trash, and 2 abandoned Trash to vote for Hillary )

Again, the FUCKED UP anti-democratic Constitution is fucking disaster.
Squirming back to the system you spent half a year trashing and discrediting.

[boutons_deux]

Squirming back to the system you spent half a year trashing and discrediting.

In your racist ignorance, you have me confused with somebody else. G F Y

[FrostKing]

In your racist ignorance, you have me confused with somebody else. G F Y
Glad to see you still waving the flag but just alive in general. Go Blue Wave, it's coming.

[FrostKing]

Honestly, we expected to find ourselves in this position. Difference being I thought we would be on the attack.

If Democrats turn multiple states then we will contest.

[midnightpulp]

Biden just cut Trump's lead in MI from 200K to 68K, with a shitload of urban mail in votes to come.

[midnightpulp]

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:tu

[boutons_deux]

Robocalls told at least 800,000 swing state residents to ‘stay home’ on Election Day —

and the FBI is investigating :lol Barr!

httfps://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/robocalls-told-at-least-800000-swing-state-residents-to-stay-home-on-election-day-and-the-fbi-is-investigating (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/robocalls-told-at-least-800000-swing-state-residents-to-stay-home-on-election-day-and-the-fbi-is-investigating)

Which party wants to suppress the vote?

Dems or Repugs received the calls?

Repug ratfuckers, eg Roger Stone, at work.

[boutons_deux]

Why does Trash was to stop the counting of mail-in ballots?

eg:

Democrats return nearly three times as many mail-in ballots as Republicans in Pennsylvania

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/03/democrats-more-mail-in-ballots-pennsylvania-433951

[boutons_deux]

"60 million returned mail-in ballots"

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/02/election-early-voting-more-than-94-million-ballots-cast-already.html

In 2016, WI and PA recounts terminated 12 Dec, 4 weeks after the election

[FrostKing]

Georgia
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Michigan

Take me home to MAGA

[midnightpulp]

Georgia
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Michigan

Take me home to MAGA

MI is looking real bad for Trump. Biden basically erased a 200k deficit in 10 minutes and the outstanding ballots will come from Dem/urban strongholds.

[FrostKing]

MI is looking real bad for Trump. Biden basically erased a 200k deficit in 10 minutes and the outstanding ballots will come from Dem/urban strongholds.
Agreed. Could be the difference maker. Based on what I stated, it will be.

Troubled by this late night "voting". This is on track to be very ugly.

[TDMVPDPOY]

will lol if biden pulled a mr.burns election with votes from dead people to win

[dbestpro]

Biden may take Wisconsin and Michigan but will lose Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Biden wins if he can hold on to Nevada. I think Nevada eventually goes to Trump and Michigan goes to Biden. That will leave Biden at 260.
Also, it appears the senate remains in control of the GOP. That means if Biden pulls it off he will not be able to court pack nor will he be able to push a left agenda. Biden who has always been center left may actually be relieved in that if he wins he will not be faced with the burden of supporting some of the extreme left ideas.

[baseline bum]

MI is looking real bad for Trump. Biden basically erased a 200k deficit in 10 minutes and the outstanding ballots will come from Dem/urban strongholds.

Fuck, WI looks bad for Biden though. Razor thin margin right now for Biden with Kenosha still having 30% of their ballots uncounted. Then NV is trending badly and Trump has run up the score so much in PA in the first 75% counted I don't see how Biden makes it up. :pctoss

[midnightpulp]

Fuck, WI looks bad for Biden though. Razor thin margin right now for Biden with Kenosha still having 30% of their ballots uncounted. Then NV is trending badly and Trump has run up the score so much in PA in the first 75% counted I don't see how Biden makes it up. :pctoss

You can exhale.

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[midnightpulp]

BaselineBum, those outstanding votes from Kenosha are expected to lean strongly Dem.

[FrostKing]

While the nation slept

[midnightpulp]

Fuck, WI looks bad for Biden though. Razor thin margin right now for Biden with Kenosha still having 30% of their ballots uncounted. Then NV is trending badly and Trump has run up the score so much in PA in the first 75% counted I don't see how Biden makes it up. :pctoss

I know we all have a degree of PTSD from the 2016 results, but the trend is rather clear that the mail-in ballots are overwhelmingly Biden votes. NV is probably safe because the outstanding votes will coming from Clark County.

And Kenosha just came in! Biden jumped to a 21K lead! I. THINK. WISCONSIN. IS. DONE.

[Warlord23]

Any thoughts on what's likely to go down in Georgia?

FWIW, the NYT "needle" for GA is now tilting towards Biden after leaning Trump for most of the night. Trump's lead in GA is under 4,000 votes and there are still blue-leaning counties with a decent amount of votes yet to be counted

[midnightpulp]

Holy shit! Biden down only 2K in Michigan with many outstanding votes from Dem strongholds to go!

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/michigan

[baseline bum]

I know we all have a degree of PTSD from the 2016 results, but the trend is rather clear that the mail-in ballots are overwhelmingly Biden votes. NV is probably safe because the outstanding votes will coming from Clark County.

And Kenosha just came in! Biden jumped to a 21K lead! I. THINK. WISCONSIN. IS. DONE.

Damn he picked up 10,000 votes in Kenosha? Surprising but great to hear. Latinos have been fucking us all night though, not close to being comfortable with NV. And Trump's lead in PA looks insurmountable.

[baseline bum]

Holy shit! Biden down only 2K in Michigan with many outstanding votes from Dem strongholds to go!

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/michigan

Can't believe Flint of all places is narrowly voting for Trump with 98% in.

[Will Hunting]

I think Biden is going to pull this off, but the Democratic Party has some serious soul searching to do. One logical next step is moving to the right on immigration, there’s no point in being pro immigration if spics and wetbacks are going to vote Republican.

[midnightpulp]

Damn he picked up 10,000 votes in Kenosha? Surprising but great to hear. Latinos have been fucking us all night though, not close to being comfortable with NV. And Trump's lead in PA looks insurmountable.

I don't see how Trump gets enough votes in Clark County from mail-ins to flip NV.

Michigan is looking very, very rosy. The count is essentially tied, with all the hick areas reporting in at 95% or above, while Wayne County is at 69%-80%. Oakland is below 95%, as well. Nothing suggests the majority of these votes will go to Trump. Hard blue areas.

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/michigan

[FrostKing]

Imagine the South counting votes in the dead of night. Hypocrites.

[midnightpulp]

I think Biden is going to pull this off, but the Democratic Party has some serious soul searching to do. One logical next step is moving to the right on immigration, there’s no point in being pro immigration if spics and wetbacks are going to vote Republican.

3rd/4th generation Latino descent here. The dumbass misconception Dems have is that the "hispanic vote" is monolithic and that they have a kind of La Raza solidarity with each other or some shit. My parents, uncles, cousins, and such are about as removed from "hispanic culture" as you could be. I don't speak a lick of Spanish and never been to Meeheeco. One of the primary grievances of older hispanics, who are maybe 2nd or 3rd generation, is that their ancestors came here legally and "did it the right way," while they see new generations of hispanic immigrants have carte blanche in that regard. It's a misguided point-of-view, because many boomer hispanics don't understand that when their parents immigrated, all you had to do was take a test. Now the process is a lot more byzantine and expensive.

Many hispanics are also in law enforcement and have served in the military, which usually attract right leaning personalities.

[hater]

I think Biden is going to pull this off, but the Democratic Party has some serious soul searching to do. One logical next step is moving to the right on immigration, there’s no point in being pro immigration if spics and wetbacks are going to vote Republican.

Your last sentence epitomizes the racism and ignorance of democrats of hispanics and blacks btw

Your last sentence is basicalky why hispanics dont like democrats

[florige]

Fuck, WI looks bad for Biden though. Razor thin margin right now for Biden with Kenosha still having 30% of their ballots uncounted. Then NV is trending badly and Trump has run up the score so much in PA in the first 75% counted I don't see how Biden makes it up. :pctoss


I’m now realizing why Trump was terribly bashing mail in balloting. I really think Biden will squeak this one out. It looked like he was all but dead in MI. Remember man this is a totally different year than before with the early voting and mail in ballots

[Will Hunting]

3rd/4th generation Latino descent here. The dumbass misconception Dems have is that the "hispanic vote" is monolithic and that they have a kind of La Raza solidarity with each other or some shit. My parents, uncles, cousins, and such are about as removed from "hispanic culture" as you could be. I don't speak a lick of Spanish and never been to Meeheeco. One of the primary grievances of older hispanics, who are maybe 2nd or 3rd generation, is that their ancestors came here legally and "did it the right way," while they see new generations of hispanic immigrants have carte blanche in that regard. It's a misguided point-of-view, because many boomer hispanics don't understand that when their parents immigrated, all you had to do was take a test. Now the process is a lot more byzantine and expensive.

Many hispanics are also in law enforcement and have served in the military, which usually attract right leaning personalities.
If we’re being honest Hispanic men aren’t very smart people and voted for Trump because they think he has “machismo”. The logical next step for Democrats is taking a sharp turn towards anti-immigration populism, it’s clearly what the electorate wants.

[spurraider21]

I think Biden is going to pull this off, but the Democratic Party has some serious soul searching to do. One logical next step is moving to the right on immigration, there’s no point in being pro immigration if spics and wetbacks are going to vote Republican.
even if biden manages to pull off the win... how the fuck can dems be confident if Florida/Ohio are more red than purple? leaves them such a narrow window

[baseline bum]

So best case scenario now is Biden narrowly wins the EC, Peters barely hangs on to his seat in MI, and the Kelly + Hickenlooper pickups plus the Jones loss and likely Collins wins make the senate 48-52 in McConnell's advantage. :vomit:

[hater]

If we’re being honest Hispanic men aren’t very smart people and voted for Trump because they think he has “machismo”. The logical next step for Democrats is taking a sharp turn towards anti-immigration populism, it’s clearly what the electorate wants.

Another dumb ignorant post.

Hispanics vote for trump because same reason half america voted. Economy, security, conservatism

[Will Hunting]

Your last sentence epitomizes the racism and ignorance of democrats of hispanics and blacks btw

Your last sentence is basicalky why hispanics dont like democrats
:lmao instead they like president who separates hispanic families at the border.

Sorry but Hispanics are irrational voters (if they were rational voters South America wouldn’t be such a heaping shitpile). The logical move for Democrats is trying to win some of the rural white vote back by being anti immigration.

[Will Hunting]

Another dumb ignorant post.

Hispanics vote for trump because same reason half america voted. Economy, security, conservatism
:lol that kind of logic is why Hispanics worship autocrats like Augosto Pinochet

[baseline bum]

Another dumb ignorant post.

Hispanics vote for trump because same reason half america voted. Economy, security, conservatism

Amazes me how Republicans keep being viewed as better on the economy even though we always have deep recessions under GOP rule that Democrats have to pull the nation out of. And then as soon as they do Republicans get voted back into power.

[Warlord23]

In addition to immigration, I think the Dems need to agree to disagree on social issues. It makes no sense to have a one-size-fits-all policy on guns, feminism and other social issues. What works in California won't work in the midwest. They need to adapt like the Republicans have - R candidates in Blue states are strongly anti-Trump while the Red-state Rs can't wait to suck him off

[hater]

Amazes me how Republicans keep being viewed as better on the economy even though we always have deep recessions under GOP rule that Democrats have to pull the nation out of. And then as soon as they do Republicans get voted back into power.

The capitalism good, socialism worse than cancef thingy works with hispanics as well

[hater]

:lol that kind of logic is why Hispanics worship autocrats like Augosto Pinochet

And americans worship trump. Now you getting it

[midnightpulp]

If we’re being honest Hispanic men aren’t very smart people and voted for Trump because they think he has “machismo”. The logical next step for Democrats is taking a sharp turn towards anti-immigration populism, it’s clearly what the electorate wants.

The hispanic base still majorly breaks for Dems, but Hispanic-Americans do have their own form of "hick." Here in California, the hispanics I know who like Trump are fully Americanized, but he appeals to them through his immigration stance and "tell it like it is" bluster, which I guess we can call machismo, but it's more similar to how hick voters describe what they like about Trump. That "he's real and doesn't hold back."

I'd say the Cubans are probably more attracted to the "machismo" idea.

[Isitjustme?]

Your last sentence epitomizes the racism and ignorance of democrats of hispanics and blacks btw

Your last sentence is basicalky why hispanics dont like democrats

lol Biden is still going to win Democrats.

It was always kind of obvious with their devotion to christianity and conservative traditional beliefs hispanics could be picked off. Its just surprising Trump was the one to start breaking through on them.

[KobesAchilles]

I’m lost fellas but is Trump gonna win? It looks like he is. And that the Republicans are also taking the Senate.

[Will Hunting]

The capitalism good, socialism worse than cancef thingy works with hispanics as well
Because they’re idiots the same way rural white evangelicals are. All you need to do is fear monger a little about socialism and the beaners will vote against the candidate they hear is socialist.

[Will Hunting]

Letting Castro use South Florida as a trashcan to dump all the right wing scum in his country was one of the worst immigration policies in US history.

[spurraider21]

]Trump invited Vanessa Guillen's family to the white house, even if it was for just a photo shoot. Didn't see shit from Dems. They were too busy championing black criminals.
dam your shallow vote seems really easy to win over :lmao

[spurraider21]

Amazes me how Republicans keep being viewed as better on the economy even though we always have deep recessions under GOP rule that Democrats have to pull the nation out of. And then as soon as they do Republicans get voted back into power.
GOP base is all-in with the COVID excuse for the economy without any level of examination of whether we possibly could have done anything different to soften the blow

they view trump as a wizard with the economy who got blindsided by a pandemic that would have gone down exactly the way it did no matter who was president

[baseline bum]

The hispanic base still majorly breaks for Dems, but Hispanic-Americans do have their own form of "hick." Here in California, the hispanics I know who like Trump are fully Americanized, but he appeals to them through his immigration stance and "tell it like it is" bluster, which I guess we can call machismo, but it's more similar to how hick voters describe what they like about Trump. That "he's real and doesn't hold back."

I'd say the Cubans are probably more attracted to the "machismo" idea.

Gotta think Harris getting the VP nod turned off a lot of latinos too. But that might be the only thing that saves them in Michigan. Doesn't look like it's going to in PA. Man the Democrats are so fucked. This election was a fucking wide-open layup with Trump crashing this nation the last eight months and best case now is one of the most narrow electoral wins we'll have seen.

[spurraider21]

The capitalism good, socialism worse than cancef thingy works with hispanics as well
especially for hispanics that dont even know what socialism means, like yourself

[Isitjustme?]

The hispanic base still majorly breaks for Dems, but Hispanic-Americans do have their own form of "hick." Here in California, the hispanics I know who like Trump are fully Americanized, but he appeals to them through his immigration stance and "tell it like it is" bluster, which I guess we can call machismo, but it's more similar to how hick voters describe what they like about Trump. That "he's real and doesn't hold back."

I'd say the Cubans are probably more attracted to the "machismo" idea.

This last part is silly. Almost all of the communist refugees treat socialism as a dirty word. Vietnamese immigrants were/are the same way for a long time. Probably would have been smart for the Republicans to let a bunch of people in from Hong Kong but they were too xenophobic to consider that.

[baseline bum]

Letting Castro use South Florida as a trashcan to dump all the right wing scum in his country was one of the worst immigration policies in US history.

I was going to give Reagan all the credit in the world for screwing Florida's electoral politics for good with that move and then realized it was fucking Jimmy Carter who let Castro do it :pctoss

[hater]

especially for hispanics that dont even know what socialism means, like yourself

Or yourself

[spurraider21]

Or yourself
:lmao kodak is communist for accepting a government contract :lmao

[hater]

I’m lost fellas but is Trump gonna win? It looks like he is. And that the Republicans are also taking the Senate.

I still stick w my prediction. Trump winnin

But biden going this far is a bit shocking.

[hater]

:lmao kodak is communist for accepting a government contract :lmao

See you have no idea :lmao

[Isitjustme?]

Amazes me how Republicans keep being viewed as better on the economy even though we always have deep recessions under GOP rule that Democrats have to pull the nation out of. And then as soon as they do Republicans get voted back into power.

I dont get it either. They lost 82-17 on economy according to exit polls

[baseline bum]

I’m lost fellas but is Trump gonna win? It looks like he is. And that the Republicans are also taking the Senate.

Looks like an ever so slight edge to Biden with a GOP senate as a total lock. Looks like Biden might hang on in WI and win MI too. PA I don't see how, Trump has run up the score so much. Slight edge to Biden in NV but the margin is razor thin right now. God knows on GA but NYT is projecting a small Biden advantage. NC looks like it'll go to Trump but Biden still has an outside chance according to NYT. So basically who the fuck knows?

[Will Hunting]

Democrats also need to give up on this idea that they can convert Republicans. Trump won like 94% of Republicans. The 50 million dollars Democratic donors gave to the Lincoln Project could have gone to a much better cause, and Biden spent way too much time trying to appeal to conservatives vs trying to turn out the base. It should be abundantly clear now that running a moderate and thinking he’s going to build this wide coalition of voters from both sides is a total wetdream.

[Warlord23]

So what’s happening? Is Cocaine Mitch still running the country?

Trump's night went off just as he planned, except that John McCain's ghost is fucking him over in AZ which looks like it will decide the election now that MI and WI seem to be tilting back to Biden

Moscow Mitch is probably ecstatic that he can go back to doing what he does best - obstructing a Dem president

[InRareForm]

Biden -400 to win on bovada

[baseline bum]

Democrats also need to give up on this idea that they can convert Republicans. Trump won like 94% of Republicans. The 50 million dollars Democratic donors gave to the Lincoln Project could have gone to a much better cause, and Biden spent way too much time trying to appeal to conservatives vs trying to turn out the base. It should be abundantly clear now that running a moderate and thinking he’s going to build this wide coalition of voters from both sides is a total wetdream.

I'm so sick of us nominating these fucking milquetoasts who excite no one. But the Democrats won't learn. Rahm Emanuel will still go out there and say these fuckers win and the completely out of touch party elites will nod their heads in agreement. Whether or not Biden squeaks by with 270 this election is a punch to the nuts of the Democrat base.

[Will Hunting]

In addition to immigration, I think the Dems need to agree to disagree on social issues. It makes no sense to have a one-size-fits-all policy on guns, feminism and other social issues. What works in California won't work in the midwest. They need to adapt like the Republicans have - R candidates in Blue states are strongly anti-Trump while the Red-state Rs can't wait to suck him off
Yeah agreed on this. Dems need to stop making pro choice a required stance for all of their candidates. They need to start running pro gun and pro life populist senate candidates in red states the way Republicans run candidates like Larry Hogan and Charlie Baker in blue states

[Rummpd]

The hispanic base still majorly breaks for Dems, but Hispanic-Americans do have their own form of "hick." Here in California, the hispanics I know who like Trump are fully Americanized, but he appeals to them through his immigration stance and "tell it like it is" bluster, which I guess we can call machismo, but it's more similar to how hick voters describe what they like about Trump. That "he's real and doesn't hold back."

I'd say the Cubans are probably more attracted to the "machismo" idea.

Honestly this is not the full story I have a Hispanic relative from Central America and she and all her friends from all over the region are very well educated and most went red as they come from countries with socialistic or dictator type rule and believe in having as much autonomy and individual freedom as possible. This is in a blue state but they all vote red. They are not anti-immigrant but very anti-illegal immigrant.

[Isitjustme?]

especially for hispanics that dont even know what socialism means, like yourself

Its a dumb label to ever embrace in the US and gains nothing tbh. Especially since many immigrants ran from here from governments calling themselves socialist all through the 20th century. Vietnamese immigrants still trend way redder than other Asian groups for the same reason as Cubans

[Will Hunting]

The fact the socialist label clearly worked in scaring people away from Biden just shows the Republicans are always going be able to convince 40% of the country that the Democrat is a socialist, even when he’s clearly not. The Democrats need to stop moving to the right in an attempt to combat right wing feat mongering about socialism.

[hater]

The fact the socialist label clearly worked in scaring people away from Biden just shows the Republicans are always going be able to convince 40% of the country that the Democrat is a socialist, even when he’s clearly not. The Democrats need to stop moving to the right in an attempt to combat right wing feat mongering about socialism.

Welcome to latin america as thats been happening for decades. And its a US talking point btw

Best thing demoshits can do is do what Bernie did. Call themselves socialists and take a stand

[Will Hunting]

Welcome to latin america as thats been happening for decades. And its a US talking point btw

Best thing demoshits can do is do what Bernie did. Call themselves socialists and take a stand
I would prefer someone just run on Bernie’s platform without self labeling as a socialist and when people call him a socialist say “If you want to call me a socialist for providing universal healthcare and better safety nets for Americans fine but I’d rather talk about policy than labels”

[Isitjustme?]

The fact the socialist label clearly worked in scaring people away from Biden just shows the Republicans are always going be able to convince 40% of the country that the Democrat is a socialist, even when he’s clearly not. The Democrats need to stop moving to the right in an attempt to combat right wing feat mongering about socialism.

This is a big attempt to try and pretend it wouldnt have worked even better on Bernie or other progressives plus he would have lost the gains with old people Biden made (exit polls show him losing them by 2 points which is the best showing since 1996). Hard to hold other things constant and just assume they will stay the same then just pick up numbers in one group. Just avoid the label. FDR was virulently anti-socialist in his retoric due to its toxicity then and he passed a broad leftwing agenda. Same with LBJ who started a world war almost to wipe out what people considered socialism.

[hater]

I would prefer someone just run on Bernie’s platform without self labeling as a socialist and when people call him a socialist say “If you want to call me a socialist for providing universal healthcare and better safety nets for Americans fine but I’d rather talk about policy than labels”

Maybe..

I would have lived to see a debate between bernie and trump to see what happens. My money would be on bernie.

Oh well we are fucked now

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Gotta think Harris getting the VP nod turned off a lot of latinos too. But that might be the only thing that saves them in Michigan. Doesn't look like it's going to in PA. Man the Democrats are so fucked. This election was a fucking wide-open layup with Trump crashing this nation the last eight months and best case now is one of the most narrow electoral wins we'll have seen.

They really fucked up not putting Castro (for lack of a better name Latino of relevance) into a major speaking DNC role. Tons of people on the left called out they needed to throw hispanics a bone. Instead of letting AOC rally up the bernie bros who never mattered anyways. Hindsight i guess

[baseline bum]

I don't see where the Democrats go after tonight. Even if Biden wins who the hell do they run in 2024 and not get massacred? Harris won't stand a chance if Trump or Uday runs and the Democratic bench is horrible. The Democrats are like the Lakers if you took away LeBron and AD.

[Will Hunting]

This is a big attempt to try and pretend it wouldnt have worked even better on Bernie or other progressives plus he would have lost the gains with old people Biden made (exit polls show him losing them by 2 points which is the best showing since 1996). Hard to hold other things constant and just assume they will stay the same then just pick up numbers in one group. Just avoid the label. FDR was virulently anti-socialist in his retoric due to its toxicity then and he passed a broad leftwing agenda. Same with LBJ who started a world war almost to wipe out what people considered socialism.
I’m definitely not for a candidate calling himself a socialist the way Bernie did, I’m saying Dems shouldn’t let it dictate their policy agenda. Bernie also start embracing the woke shit way too much in 2020 vs. 2016, if there’s one thing moderates and progressives can agree on after this election it’s that we really need to back off the woke shit. The days of Elizabeth Warren spending a full 2 minute debate response talking about how she’d give transgender inmates free sex change surgery need to be over.

[johnsmith]

Lol....I wonder how the stimulus talks will go after all this?

[Isitjustme?]

I’m definitely not for a candidate calling himself a socialist the way Bernie did, I’m saying Dems shouldn’t let it dictate their policy agenda. Bernie also start embracing the woke shit way too much in 2020 vs. 2016, if there’s one thing moderates and progressives can agree on after this election it’s that we really need to back off the woke shit. The days of Elizabeth Warren spending a full 2 minute debate response talking about how she’d give transgender inmates free sex change surgery need to be over.

Bernie was very smart for ignoring identity politics but I'm not sure about the next-gen progressives. That video of AOC lecturing her white boyfriend about how all the ways of his white privilege is cringeworthy as fuck and undoubtedly not the way to go.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I don't see where the Democrats go after tonight. Even if Biden wins who the hell do they run in 2024 and not get massacred? Harris won't stand a chance if Trump or Uday runs and the Democratic bench is horrible. The Democrats are like the Lakers if you took away LeBron and AD.

To be fair people said that about the GOP after 2008 and look what happened.
Prob ripe for another cult of personality that comes up and says the right empty shit to resonate with all the empty people.

[spurraider21]

I’m definitely not for a candidate calling himself a socialist the way Bernie did, I’m saying Dems shouldn’t let it dictate their policy agenda. Bernie also start embracing the woke shit way too much in 2020 vs. 2016, if there’s one thing moderates and progressives can agree on after this election it’s that we really need to back off the woke shit. The days of Elizabeth Warren spending a full 2 minute debate response talking about how she’d give transgender inmates free sex change surgery need to be over.
i disagree that trans issues = wokeness

[Will Hunting]

Bernie was very smart for ignoring identity politics but I'm not sure about the next-gen progressives. That video of AOC lecturing her white boyfriend about how all the ways of his white privilege is cringeworthy as fuck and undoubtedly not the way to go.
Bernie ignored identity politics in 2016 but he fell into the trap in 2020. Imo it was one of the reasons why his primary performance dropped off.