***** Official All-Inclusive 2020 Election Night Thread *****

[baseline bum]

that's enormous, since he's trailed Biden the whole time

Bend over, I'll give you enormous.

[Will Hunting]

Peters just took the lead in the MI senate race. Hope it sticks.
The only votes left are in Dem heavy areas. He should hang on.

Senate races were still a disaster this year but if Peters lost and made it so they gained no net seats it would be a historic fuckup. Even in 2016 they managed to pick up 2 seats and they likely won’t even do that this year.

[vy65]

that's my point. you need to treat hispanic voting block same as you treat white voting block, diverse, with different ideologies, etc. When democraps start doing that they might start getting somewhere

Then all the other logical arguments as to why Trump is fucking terrible should have persuaded them. You don't have a point here.

[ducks]

REAKING: Trump campaign says Trump will immediately request a recount in Wisconsin

“Despite ridiculous public polling used as a voter suppression tactic, Wisconsin has been a razor thin race as we always knew that it would be," Bill Stepien, Trump 2020 campaign manager says in a statement.

"There have been reports of irregularities in several Wisconsin counties which raise serious doubts about the validity of the results. The President is well within the threshold to request a recount and we will immediately do so

[Will Hunting]

:lol what happened to the NYT needles?
I was looking for the Georgia needle but couldn’t find it :lol

[RD2191]

What's taking North Carolina so long to call?

[hater]

Then all the other logical arguments as to why Trump is fucking terrible should have persuaded them. You don't have a point here.

they didn't persuade 50% white america. why would hispanics be any different?

[Will Hunting]

Then all the other logical arguments as to why Trump is fucking terrible should have persuaded them. You don't have a point here.
His point is that Hispanics have a huge swath of dumb uneducated voters just like white people do and you shouldn’t expect to win them over with logic by simply being better than Trump.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The only votes left are in Dem heavy areas. He should hang on.

Senate races were still a disaster this year but if Peters lost and made it so they gained no net seats it would be a historic fuckup. Even in 2016 they managed to pick up 2 seats and they likely won’t even do that this year.
what's 2022 look like tbh?

I know the Dems are in a bad shape for 2024

[ElNono]

What's taking North Carolina so long to call?

They accept absentee ballots for a couple of days after the election, per a SCOTUS ruling in October.

[ChumpDumper]

I was looking for the Georgia needle but couldn’t find it :lolNot even Fox is needling that one.:depressed

[Spurminator]

Trump:
https://www.colorlines.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_lead_normal/public/images/articles/2016/11/colorlines-screenshot-donald-trump-taco-salad-now-050616.png?itok=FFvb56VW

FkLA:
Swoon

[ChumpDumper]

His point is that Hispanics have a huge swath of dumb uneducated voters just like white people do and you shouldn’t expect to win them over with logic by simply being better than Trump.True, the emo rube monolith transcends race.

[FkLA]

You bring up a great point. I can't recall a single campaign photo of Biden eating a taco or posing with a Goya bean can tbh :lol

"well Trump did this or Trump is worse"

That shit ain't good enough. Earn my vote.

[Chucho]

Both sides are itching to flood the board with doesithurt.gif

That's all it's been about for all but maybe a handful of bona fide, genuine people (mental acumen and lack thereof doesn't discount someone being genuine) in this group.

[ElNono]

Hmmm. You're actually going backwards. That's all star coping. :lmao

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/459/451/original/7fa5ffbf920d9e11.png

Can you point where you're at on the scale here? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

"well Trump did this or Trump is worse"

That shit ain't good enough. Earn my vote.Who did you vote for?

[RD2191]

His point is that Hispanics have a huge swath of dumb uneducated voters just like white people do and you shouldn’t expect to win them over with logic by simply being better than Trump.
Exactly, most of the beaner Trump supporters in my area are pretty much the lowest of the low, pretty much beaner rednecks for lack of a better term.

[Reck]

That's literally the dumbest shit I've ever read.

You’re talking to the guy that likes to post shemale cock pictures. Definitely not well balanced in the head.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who did you vote for?
Full on disclosure. I didn't vote.

[Reck]

The red mirage turned out to be a thing. Now blue is the name of the game.

Peters just took the lead in his senate bid in Michigan. Gideon is not looking out to lunch either. She’s in it.

[baseline bum]

:lol what happened to the NYT needles?

I have to go to Fox to be reassured now.:lmao


I was looking for the Georgia needle but couldn’t find it :lol

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020&region=TOP_BANNER&context=election_recirc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g41agP2m_Y)

[ChumpDumper]

That's all it's been about for all but maybe a handful of bona fide, genuine people (mental acumen and lack thereof doesn't discount someone being genuine) in this group.Would be a bonus for me. No way am I above gloating if it goes the way I want.

I think the victory is only temporary. We're going to ditch the republic before I die.

[Will Hunting]

what's 2022 look like tbh?

I know the Dems are in a bad shape for 2024
Dems will be fine in 2024 if they run a good candidate. If they run Biden or Kamala they’re toast as a party and the senate seats they lose are the least of their concerns.

2022 will be tough, but the wildcard will be if Republicans can keep all the Trumptards who never voted prior to 2016 showing up even if Trump isn’t on the ticket or politically relevant. If the GOP loses those voters because no politician other than Trump is able to energize them, I think the Dems can pick up seats in the senate.

Mark Kelly running again in 2022 for a full term is going to be a brutal race. Other than that, the only incumbents they have in losable states are popular senators in Nevada and New Hampshire.

[spurraider21]

The red mirage turned out to be a thing. Now blue is the name of the game.

Peters just took the lead in his senate bid in Michigan. Gideon is not looking out to lunch either. She’s in it.
gideon conceded

[Bogie]

Trump:
https://www.colorlines.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_lead_normal/public/images/articles/2016/11/colorlines-screenshot-donald-trump-taco-salad-now-050616.png?itok=FFvb56VW

FkLA:
Swoon


:lmao:lmao:lmao

[spurraider21]

the big failure for team blue has been NC... losing the senate race there too stings

[baseline bum]

Would be a bonus for me. No way am I above gloating if it goes the way I want.

I think the victory is only temporary. We're going to ditch the republic before I die.

Meh COVID-45 will get us before that

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020®ion=TOP_BANNER&context=election_recirc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g41agP2m_Y)
Thanks, but they said they stopped updating early this morning.

[ChumpDumper]

Meh COVID-45 will get us before thatInshallah.

I don't need the aggravation.

[Bogie]

"well Trump did this or Trump is worse"

That shit ain't good enough. Earn my vote.

oh shut the fuck up. You’re mad black people are getting attention you racist moron

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dems will be fine in 2024 if they run a good candidate. If they run Biden or Kamala they’re toast as a party and the senate seats they lose are the least of their concerns.

2022 will be tough, but the wildcard will be if Republicans can keep all the Trumptards who never voted prior to 2016 showing up even if Trump isn’t on the ticket or politically relevant. If the GOP loses those voters because no politician other than Trump is able to energize them, I think the Dems can pick up seats in the senate.

Mark Kelly running again in 2022 for a full term is going to be a brutal race. Other than that, the only incumbents they have in losable states are popular senators in Nevada and New Hampshire.
unless the dumbass teabaggers trot out McSally a 3rd time :lmao


but realistically, the Dems won't disallow Joe/Kamala to run for a second term.

[baseline bum]

the big failure for team blue has been NC... losing the senate race there too stings

Losing to Collins is a bitter fucking pill. I thought no fucking way Gideon didn't pull that one off.

[florige]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020®ion=TOP_BANNER&context=election_recirc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g41agP2m_Y)


I think Georgia is going to flip as well once they get the ATL count in

[Chucho]

You’re talking to the guy that likes to post shemale cock pictures. Definitely not well balanced in the head.

:lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

the big failure for team blue has been NC... losing the senate race there too stings
I thought it would happen. @Me

[spurraider21]

Losing to Collins is a bitter fucking pill. I thought no fucking way Gideon didn't pull that one off.
im deeply concerned about collins winning

[RD2191]

They accept absentee ballots for a couple of days after the election, per a SCOTUS ruling in October.
:tu I see, thanks for the info.

[baseline bum]

Trump:
https://www.colorlines.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_lead_normal/public/images/articles/2016/11/colorlines-screenshot-donald-trump-taco-salad-now-050616.png?itok=FFvb56VW

FkLA:
Swoon

:rollin

[lefty]

And now let's all take a break from all this madness

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/fd02503ed2877efe744386c77e1b070890c2153.gif

[ChumpDumper]

Full on disclosure. I didn't vote.No reason to think you ever would.:tu

[Will Hunting]

the big failure for team blue has been NC... losing the senate race there too stings
The sexting scandal made a difference. Prior to that he was running ahead of Biden.

In hindsight some of Schumer’s senate picks this time sucked. McGrath’s race was $100 million of wasted money, and Schumer backed Cunningham over a very charismatic black candidate who would have driven turnout in NC’s northeastern rural black counties that were awful this year.

[Millennial_Messiah]

my map is pretty much perfect outside of the NE-2 race... I should win that paypal money tbh provided Trump holds PA, NC, GA and Biden takes NV, MI, WI

[baseline bum]

That's literally the dumbest shit I've ever read.

What the fuck do you expect from someone who went from Bernie to Trump? He's going to be calling for civil war in a year like the last one.

[RD2191]

Trump:
https://www.colorlines.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_lead_normal/public/images/articles/2016/11/colorlines-screenshot-donald-trump-taco-salad-now-050616.png?itok=FFvb56VW

FkLA:
Swoon
:rollin

[spurraider21]

per NYT

https://i.gyazo.com/ab3cbb16677270142f80b0963387fc8c.png

still... having to make up a ~90k vote deficit with ~200k votes to be counted would require some really incredible margins. have to think that's pretty unlikely to happen. needing something like 150k-50k

[Millennial_Messiah]

No reason to think you ever would.:tu
In Texas voting registration is solely what they use for jury duty summons. Thus, I don't have an active voter registration card.

[florige]

my map is pretty much perfect outside of the NE-2 race... I should win that paypal money tbh provided Trump holds PA, NC, GA and Biden takes NV, MI, WI


I don't think Trump is going to hold GA.

[ElNono]

You aren't getting Michigan and Wisconsin :lol

:lol































































:lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

per NYT

https://i.gyazo.com/ab3cbb16677270142f80b0963387fc8c.png

still... having to make up a ~90k vote deficit with ~200k votes to be counted would require some really incredible margins. have to think that's pretty unlikely to happen. needing something like 150k-50k
likely to be similar to the Kemp-Abrams margin imo.

[Will Hunting]

unless the dumbass teabaggers trot out McSally a 3rd time :lmao


but realistically, the Dems won't disallow Joe/Kamala to run for a second term.
If you’re right then the Dems have a historic loss in 2024. One for the ages.

If Biden runs again it would be tough but after 4 years of getting stonewalled by McConnell Biden’s 82 year old ass won’t be up for another term, and Kamala will definitely face a real primary challenge. The DNC won’t hand it to someone who’s not the incumbent.

[InRareForm]

Stimulus coming by xmas?

[Chucho]

Dems will be fine in 2024 if they run a good candidate. If they run Biden or Kamala they’re toast as a party and the senate seats they lose are the least of their concerns.

2022 will be tough, but the wildcard will be if Republicans can keep all the Trumptards who never voted prior to 2016 showing up even if Trump isn’t on the ticket or politically relevant. If the GOP loses those voters because no politician other than Trump is able to energize them, I think the Dems can pick up seats in the senate.

Mark Kelly running again in 2022 for a full term is going to be a brutal race. Other than that, the only incumbents they have in losable states are popular senators in Nevada and New Hampshire.

Shouldn't be hard to keep the base mostly intact. Just keep the hatred of the other side burning. That's basically what Murican politics is boiled down to.

[ChumpDumper]

In Texas voting registration is solely what they use for jury duty summons. Thus, I don't have an active voter registration card.Once you start talking, no lawyer would include you on a jury.

[baseline bum]

im deeply concerned about collins winning

America has learned a pretty big lesson said with furrowed brow

[FkLA]

oh shut the fuck up. You’re mad black people are getting attention you racist moron

Everyone is a racist to you liberals. Bunch of pussies.

[Mugen]

"well Trump did this or Trump is worse"

That shit ain't good enough. Earn my vote.

Got it.

Pandering > 4 years of facts & evidence

[Will Hunting]

Shouldn't be hard to keep the base mostly intact. Just keep the hatred of the other side burning. That's basically what Murican politics is boiled down to.
Base is already falling apart at the seams. If the Democratic Party doesn’t radically change, Hispanics are going to be voting as conservative as white people do by 2024.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If you’re right then the Dems have a historic loss in 2024. One for the ages.

If Biden runs again it would be tough but after 4 years of getting stonewalled by McConnell Biden’s 82 year old ass won’t be up for another term, and Kamala will definitely face a real primary challenge. The DNC won’t hand it to someone who’s not the incumbent.
That's itPERIOD. Also, DNC definitely won't hand it to a progressive.

Better hope you keep Peters seat now, because it will come in handy later for the sake of a potential filibuster circa 2025 tbh.

[Bogie]

Everyone is a racist to you liberals. Bunch of pussies.

no, dumbass, you actually created a thread crying because the blacks got all the publicity.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Dems are gonna give Puerto Rico statehood and then watch as Puerto Rico elects two GOP Senators in 2024 with Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket.

[Will Hunting]

That's itPERIOD. Also, DNC definitely won't hand it to a progressive.

Better hope you keep Peters seat now, because it will come in handy later for the sake of a potential filibuster circa 2025 tbh.
There’s no way Peters is losing. He’s up with only Dem stronghold areas remaining.

Even Buttigeig would be a massive improvement over Kamala or Biden. Wouldn’t be as good as Yang though.

[baseline bum]

Stimulus coming by xmas?

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Stimulus is fucking dead.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Base is already falling apart at the seams. If the Democratic Party doesn’t radically change, Hispanics are going to be voting as conservative as white people do by 2024.
But, what states do that actually matter?

FL is pretty much red at this point, but that's Cubans
AZ? This has trended blue BECAUSE of the Hispanic %.
NV? This has also trended from purple to blue over the past decade-plus.
NM? This has been a solid blue state for a long time with one exception in 2004.
Nullify the TX "demographic shift" effect? Keeping TX red long term instead?
California? Not a chance.
Colorado? The Democrats have made it a blue state there the past decade-plus because of all the white hippie pot heads, not Hispanics.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

In hindsight some of Schumer’s senate picks this time sucked. McGrath’s race was $100 million of wasted money, and Schumer backed Cunningham over a very charismatic black candidate who would have driven turnout in NC’s northeastern rural black counties that were awful this year.

That was in South Carolina

[FkLA]

no, dumbass, you actually created a thread crying because the blacks got all the publicity.

*black criminals

But yes, yes I did. Doesn't make me a racist. I judge you based on your character, not the color of your skin. Keep making it about race though. I know liberals love that shit.

[ChumpDumper]

Everyone is a racist to you liberals. Bunch of pussies.Who did you vote for?

[Millennial_Messiah]

There’s no way Peters is losing. He’s up with only Dem stronghold areas remaining.

Even Buttigeig would be a massive improvement over Kamala or Biden. Wouldn’t be as good as Yang though.
Too many right wingers/latinos who won't vote for a gay no matter what. Yang is too progressive for the DNC, especially going up against an incumbent president. He's definitely got a cult following though.

Honestly, hoping Biden or Kamala gets beat out in their own incumbency primary is like a republican hoping to carry California. Pipe dream, but won't happen short of some one-off miracle.

[spurraider21]

That was in South Carolina
South Carolina was the Lindsey Graham - Jaime Harrison contest. he's talking about Cal Cunningham in N.C.

[spurraider21]

FkLA doesnt like the racialization of politics but is mad at dems because they prioritized black people over brown people

[Reck]

The sexting scandal made a difference. Prior to that he was running ahead of Biden.

In hindsight some of Schumer’s senate picks this time sucked. McGrath’s race was $100 million of wasted money, and Schumer backed Cunningham over a very charismatic black candidate who would have driven turnout in NC’s northeastern rural black counties that were awful this year.

Don’t see it. Republicans just came out stronger.

He still had a 4-5 point lead in polls after that. How do you explain Theresa, Jaime and Gideon getting curb stomp? Did they also have a scandal?

The polls were just flat out even more wrong this time.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Exactly, most of the beaner Trump supporters in my area are pretty much the lowest of the low, pretty much beaner rednecks for lack of a better term.

LOL yeah. Look at the gunfucking POS that tried to run the Biden bus off the road. Scum.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Once you start talking, no lawyer would include you on a jury.
I don't even want to go for a day one. I have to be logged on to work laptop every weekday that isn't a federal holiday.

[Will Hunting]

Just want to point out that the fact we still don’t know the results of multiple states because of archaic ballot counting rules, protocols and technology is another example of this country being a banana republic that thinks it’s an empire.

[Blake]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Stimulus is fucking dead.

Yeah really the only last shot was to get it in before the election

[Spurtacular]

How does this post look today?

Not good. They waited for everyone to go to bed and then they stole the election.
Even now, they're going in clumps so that if one goes up, they can just dump more onto the other.
Total disgrace.

[RD2191]

Just want to point out that the fact we still don’t know the results of multiple states because of archaic ballot counting rules, protocols and technology is another example of this country being a banana republic that thinks it’s an empire.
"Greatest Country on Earth" can't even run an election correctly. :lol

[spurraider21]

interesting

GEOFFREY SKELLEY (https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/geoffrey-skelley/)
NOV. 4, 1:28 PM (https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/294544/)

If you’re wondering how exactly a “blue shift” in Pennsylvania could be significant enough (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvanias-vote-count-could-change-after-election-night/) for Biden to overcome Trump’s 8-point lead there, consider this small batch of votes that just came in from Allegheny County (Pittsburgh). About 4,700 new votes were reported there, and Biden won nearly 80 percent of them. It’s important for readers to understand that a lot of the outstanding mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania are not only from populous Democratic-leaning areas, but are also going to be even more Democratic than those areas on the whole because Democrats were far more likely to vote by mail. While there are some outstanding votes from more rural GOP areas, it’s the large number of strongly Democratic mail-in ballots that could boost Biden enough to overtake Trump. Will that happen? We’ll have to wait and see.

[gambit1990]

sherrod brown on msnbc rn.

[ChumpDumper]

Not good. They waited for everyone to go to bed and then they stole the election.
Even now, they're going in clumps so that if one goes up, they can just dump more onto the other.
Total disgrace.Hopefully your narrative for the next four years.:tu

[ElNono]

Not good. They waited for everyone to go to bed and then they stole the election.
Even now, they're going in clumps so that if one goes up, they can just dump more onto the other.
Total disgrace.

You've been told about this for days... you spent your time posting coping videos from YouTubes instead of informing yourself.

[Chucho]

Stimulus coming by xmas?


In a lame duck session? Not happening.


Neither side gives a shit. Period.

[Joseph Kony]

Not good. They waited for everyone to go to bed and then they stole the election.
Even now, they're going in clumps so that if one goes up, they can just dump more onto the other.
Total disgrace.

there he is :lol

Sorry this is happening to you

[Will Hunting]

interesting

GEOFFREY SKELLEY (https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/geoffrey-skelley/)
NOV. 4, 1:28 PM (https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/294544/)

If you’re wondering how exactly a “blue shift” in Pennsylvania could be significant enough (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvanias-vote-count-could-change-after-election-night/) for Biden to overcome Trump’s 8-point lead there, consider this small batch of votes that just came in from Allegheny County (Pittsburgh). About 4,700 new votes were reported there, and Biden won nearly 80 percent of them. It’s important for readers to understand that a lot of the outstanding mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania are not only from populous Democratic-leaning areas, but are also going to be even more Democratic than those areas on the whole because Democrats were far more likely to vote by mail. While there are some outstanding votes from more rural GOP areas, it’s the large number of strongly Democratic mail-in ballots that could boost Biden enough to overtake Trump. Will that happen? We’ll have to wait and see.

Pennsylvania needs to get the lionshare of those ballots counted before Nevada releases its results tomorrow. They basically have a grace period now because Trump needs Nevada to keep counting but if he’s winning Nevada once those votes are counted he’s gonna be running into court trying to stop counting nationwide.

[gambit1990]

"credit to susan collins for being all things to all people and getting away with it." well put.

[ElNono]

Turns out the polls were fairly spot on... who would've thought? :lol

[Will Hunting]

Not good. They waited for everyone to go to bed and then they stole the election.
Even now, they're going in clumps so that if one goes up, they can just dump more onto the other.
Total disgrace.
I haven’t checked but I’m assuming you smoked me on our bet, should have included a wager :lol

[Joseph Kony]

PA SOS said they will likely be done sooner than expected, perhaps later today :tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

In a lame duck session? Not happening.


Neither side gives a shit. Period.
Exactly. If anything, Trump will protest by calling-off any plans for a vaccine, he might make a concerted effort to delay it on purpose tbh knowing him.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I haven’t checked but I’m assuming you smoked me on our bet, should have included a wager :lol
My guess is that my map, assuming current states hold, is easily the best of us three or anyone else on ST. Off by 1 stinkin' EC vote.

[Will Hunting]

There’s going to be stimulus but it’s going to be absolute trash that involves a lot of corporate handouts to McConnell’s corporate sponsors and basically nothing for working class people.

[ElNono]

So, if things stand, Joe is at 270 right now even without PA or GA... flipping either is basically the death knell...

[ElNono]

There’s going to be stimulus but it’s going to be absolute trash that involves a lot of corporate handouts to McConnell’s corporate sponsors and basically nothing for working class people.

"working across the aisle"

[Splits]

I guess, but gifting Trump 25% of your support doing the exact opposite sends a mixed message.

Who did you vote for?

moar

https://i.imgur.com/SWAmMI1.png

https://i.imgur.com/6eDhVWo.png

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pennsylvania needs to get the lionshare of those ballots counted before Nevada releases its results tomorrow. They basically have a grace period now because Trump needs Nevada to keep counting but if he’s winning Nevada once those votes are counted he’s gonna be running into court trying to stop counting nationwide.
if he does this the GOP won't win another election for at least a half decade. would look terrible for democracy's sake. Look more like a fascist country.

[spurraider21]

So, if things stand, Joe is at 270 right now even without PA or GA... flipping either is basically the death knell...
thats assuming he hangs onto AZ, Nevada

[ElNono]

My guess is that my map, assuming current states hold, is easily the best of us three or anyone else on ST. Off by 1 stinkin' EC vote.

Didn't you have Minnesota red? GTFO here

[Will Hunting]

So, if things stand, Joe is at 270 right now even without PA or GA... flipping either is basically the death knell...
The mystery is where the remaining NV votes are coming from. I’ve heard they’re mail in votes from Clark County and I’ve also heard they’re rural county votes, totally conflicting.

[Dirks_Finale]

Trafalgar group, laughed at repeatedly by spurstalk, know-it-all liberals (and Nate Silver), pretty much nailed it for the 3rd straight election cycle. Coming closer than anyone else.

The archaic 1990's polling methodology probably needs to be adjusted by the pollsters. At this point, they are either intentionally being disingenuous as a form of voter suppression, or they are just too gullible to realize that people are lying to them.


Don’t see it. Republicans just came out stronger.

He still had a 4-5 point lead in polls after that. How do you explain Theresa, Jaime and Gideon getting curb stomp? Did they also have a scandal?

The polls were just flat out even more wrong this time.

[lefty]

A lot of Californians must have moved to AZ :lol

[Spurminator]

Turns out the polls were fairly spot on... who would've thought? :lol

Presidential, maybe. The battleground Senate polls were awful.

[ElNono]

thats assuming he hangs onto AZ, Nevada

yep

[Millennial_Messiah]

There’s going to be stimulus but it’s going to be absolute trash that involves a lot of corporate handouts to McConnell’s corporate sponsors and basically nothing for working class people.
McConnell is defacto president for another 4 years. No liberal scotus justices. No liberal bills. No tax hikes. No green new deal. :lol

[Will Hunting]

Whatever the pollsters are doing, it’s pretty clear they’re fucking up in how they poll rural areas. The one swing state the pollsters actually got right this year was Arizona, the one that has essentially no material rural white vote.

[ElNono]

The mystery is where the remaining NV votes are coming from. I’ve heard they’re mail in votes from Clark County and I’ve also heard they’re rural county votes, totally conflicting.

Washoe and Clark are not even at 90% reporting yet... and they've been fairly blue so far..

[Millennial_Messiah]

The mystery is where the remaining NV votes are coming from. I’ve heard they’re mail in votes from Clark County and I’ve also heard they’re rural county votes, totally conflicting.
Fox decision desk said there's some of both outstanding, but majority are not in Vegas metro and it should be a real nail biter tomorrow.

[Chucho]

Once you start talking, no one wants to continue a conversation with you.

FIFY

[spurraider21]

Didn't you have Minnesota red? GTFO here
https://media.tumblr.com/3da9ea2122f3f3a8bbce3260b0c91fee/tumblr_inline_nkfk6wd3HT1qlbkes.gif

[ChumpDumper]

moar

https://i.imgur.com/SWAmMI1.png

https://i.imgur.com/6eDhVWo.png:lol white people

[ElNono]

Presidential, maybe. The battleground Senate polls were awful.

I'll take your word for it, I honestly haven't tracked that.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Washoe and Clark are not even at 90% reporting yet... and they've been fairly blue so far..
yeah, but the entire state is at 75%, so more rural votes left tbh.

[midnightpulp]

AP sticking to their guns with the Biden call.


The AP called the race at 2:50 a.m. EST Wednesday, after an analysis of ballots cast statewide concluded there were not enough outstanding to allow Trump to catch up.

With 80% of the expected vote counted, Biden was ahead by 5 percentage points, with a roughly 130,000-vote lead over Trump with about 2.6 million ballots counted. The remaining ballots left to be counted, including mail-in votes in Maricopa County, where Biden performed strongly, were not enough for Trump to catch up to the former vice president.

Many of the gains have been driven by the shifting politics of Maricopa County, which is home to Phoenix and its suburbs. That’s where Biden sealed his victory. Maricopa County accounts for 60% of the state’s vote, and Biden ran up huge margins there.

https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-arizona-joe-biden-bb16f91b04456b2513f40436248eb62d

Another bellwether here is McSally losing her race by 140K votes.

[lefty]

:lol white people
61% is low tbh for FLorida

I'm guessing the 61% are older than the 39%

[ChumpDumper]

Trafalgar group, laughed at repeatedly by spurstalk, know-it-all liberals (and Nate Silver), pretty much nailed it for the 3rd straight election cycle. Coming closer than anyone else.By calling the election for Trump?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Didn't you have Minnesota red? GTFO here
No, I didn't. Check the betting thread again, please.

[ElNono]

yeah, but the entire state is at 75%, so more rural votes left tbh.

Not enough votes though, that's the problem between urban and rural votes. The only caveat here is Carson and Douglas county around Reno.

[Dirks_Finale]

A lot of Californians must have moved to AZ :lol

It's true.

And it's true here as well. Trump will only carry TX by 5 or 6 once it's all tallied. Quite a drop-off from 2016.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Here's my most accurate one, including the appropriate shades and colors (for bragging rights):

https://i.imgur.com/gxEFO7D.jpg



Biden-Harris: 48.2% Total Popular Vote

Trump-Pence: 45.8% Total Popular Vote

Final Winner: Trump-Pence (due to GOP House Election Committee majority & SCOTUS majority)

ElNono

[rmt]

I wonder what Pence will do now - too late to run for any office - probably would write a tell-all book except for his Christian principles and unswerving loyalty to Trump.

[Millennial_Messiah]

^that was from yesterday

[ElNono]

No, I didn't. Check the betting thread again, please.

Fair enough, you've posted a bunch of maps lately... I'm pretty sure you had a thread declaring MN for Trump :lol

[Chucho]

Andy, you made cash bets? Have you ever made a bet here before?

[Dirks_Finale]

By calling the election for Trump?

Trolling again. Do you ever get tired?

They repeatedly had it Trump down or up a point or two in swing states, while all your imaginary democratic polls had Biden up 10. And you know this, troll.

[spurraider21]

^that was from yesterday
thank god for Joe-maha

[Will Hunting]

Trafalgar group, laughed at repeatedly by spurstalk, know-it-all liberals (and Nate Silver), pretty much nailed it for the 3rd straight election cycle. Coming closer than anyone else.

The archaic 1990's polling methodology probably probably needs to be adjusted by the pollsters. At this point, they are either intentionally being disingenuous as a form of voter suppression, or they are just too gullible to realize that people are lying to them.
Theres no way to do this since it’s free speech but I’d be in favor of banning all public polls at this point. They’re clearly fucked up, they have way too much of an impact on fundraising, and imo they suppress voter turnout. Imo campaigns should conduct their internal polls but public polls have become a serious problem for elections.

[Spurtacular]

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/478/909/original/8ec4c3cc6f9cdb23.jpeg

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fair enough, you've posted a bunch of maps lately... I'm pretty sure you had a thread declaring MN for Trump :lol
Back in mid october yes, but that wasn't official, never posted a map of it.

[Spurtacular]

I haven’t checked but I’m assuming you smoked me on our bet, should have included a wager :lol

Least of my concerns right now, as an election was being stolen; but yea we knew the polls were phony.

[Joseph Kony]

props to TimDunkem for sticking by his original prediction and not panicking yesterday like most of my fellow dems :tu

[Joseph Kony]

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/478/909/original/8ec4c3cc6f9cdb23.jpeg
keep the salt coming :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

Andy, you made cash bets? Have you ever made a bet here before?
yeah, I bet someone OKC would beat SA in 6 in 2016, and I won, and the other guy welched

I also bet someone the Cowboys would beat green gay democratic pissconsin fudgepackers in the playoffs that year, and so I welched

[ducks]

https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/6157997002?__twitter_impression=true
Arizona

[Millennial_Messiah]

thank god for Joe-maha
It went slightly Trump over Hillary in 2016, so I thought it would hold.

[ChumpDumper]

Trolling again. Do you ever get tired?

They repeatedly had it Trump down or up a point or two in swing states, while all your imaginary democratic polls had Biden up 10. And you know this, troll.I'm not taking your word for it.

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

[ducks]

https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/6157997002?__twitter_impression=true
Arizona

Maricopa plans to release ballot totals twice on Wednesday: At 7 p.m. and again after 10:30 p.m., Gilbertson said.

[Trill Clinton]

There’s going to be stimulus but it’s going to be absolute trash that involves a lot of corporate handouts to McConnell’s corporate sponsors and basically nothing for working class people.


the corporate welfare will trickle down to the working classhttps://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/troll.png

[Spurtacular]

1323653377801289733

[Reck]

props to TimDunkem (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114) for sticking by his original prediction and not panicking yesterday like most of my fellow dems :tu

I didn’t panic either, son.

I called Biden’s Arizona flip game changer. And it was.

[spurraider21]

Maricopa plans to release ballot totals twice on Wednesday: At 7 p.m. and again after 10:30 p.m., Gilbertson said.
Republicans trying to steal the election!

[Dirks_Finale]

So, I do wonder what direction the GOP heads in. Do they anoint a squeaky clean establishment guy like Rubio or Pence. The opposite of Trump..or do they usher in a Trump-light guy like Christie? Trump changed the party and that is undeniable. And there's also no denying that headway was made with hispanics under him as well. Going to be a delicate tightrope to move forward from Trump while trying to maintain whatever positive that occurred under his watch


I wonder what Pence will do now - too late to run for any office - probably would write a tell-all book except for his Christian principles and unswerving loyalty to Trump.

[Joseph Kony]

Maricopa plans to release ballot totals twice on Wednesday: At 7 p.m. and again after 10:30 p.m., Gilbertson said.
you lost AZ, accept it. der furher's days are numbered

[Russ]

Here's my most accurate one, including the appropriate shades and colors (for bragging rights):

https://i.imgur.com/gxEFO7D.jpg



Biden-Harris: 48.2% Total Popular Vote

Trump-Pence: 45.8% Total Popular Vote

Final Winner: Trump-Pence (due to GOP House Election Committee majority & SCOTUS majority)

ElNono

I think you're missing the one electoral vote from Omaha that gives Biden 270.

[JPB]

Fox decision desk said there's some of both outstanding, but majority are not in Vegas metro and it should be a real nail biter tomorrow.

Looks like they're more favorable to Biden.

[Reck]

Trolling again. Do you ever get tired?

They repeatedly had it Trump down or up a point or two in swing states, while all your imaginary democratic polls had Biden up 10. And you know this, troll.

Of the states that matter they had Trump in pretty much all of them. They’ve been wrong this far. Props on PA though.

[Will Hunting]

So, I do wonder what direction the GOP heads in. Do they anoint a squeaky clean establishment guy like Rubio or Pence. The opposite of Trump..or do they usher in a Trump-light guy like Christie? Trump changed the party and that is undeniable. And there's also no denying that headway was made with hispanics under him as well. Going to be a delicate tightrope to move forward from Trump while trying to maintain whatever positive that occurred under his watch
Pretty simple. Run a more presidential populist candidate like Josh Hawley (a lot more likeable than Tom Cotton imo) who can keep most of the new voters Trump got but also also win suburban voters back. Not that the candidate they run in 2024 really matters if the Dems run Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, both of which will get crushed.

[Reck]

So, I do wonder what direction the GOP heads in. Do they anoint a squeaky clean establishment guy like Rubio or Pence. The opposite of Trump..or do they usher in a Trump-light guy like Christie? Trump changed the party and that is undeniable. And there's also no denying that headway was made with hispanics under him as well. Going to be a delicate tightrope to move forward from Trump while trying to maintain whatever positive that occurred under his watch

Wouldn’t change a thing if I was the GOP. Trumpism works.

Dems should try it. I wish Dennison ran as a dem. Lol

[TimDunkem]

props to TimDunkem for sticking by his original prediction and not panicking yesterday like most of my fellow dems :tu

Thank you, my guy. :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think you're missing the one electoral vote from Omaha that gives Biden 270.
yeah. if I'm off by 1 single ECV and nobody else's map is even close, I should be the winner of the paypal money.

[TimDunkem]

That's literally the dumbest shit I've ever read.

Yeah but it's how far too many of our brothers and sisters think.

[Dirks_Finale]

Maybe now that Trump is out, the shy-Trump voter phenomenom goes with him? At which point the polling now becomes a little more accurate?

I'd be fine with ditching polling all together. In fact, I'd like the (D) or (R) classification removed from candidate's name on the ballot. Would force the lazy electorate, low information voters to do a little homework and find out who supports what.


Theres no way to do this since it’s free speech but I’d be in favor of banning all public polls at this point. They’re clearly fucked up, they have way too much of an impact on fundraising, and imo they suppress voter turnout. Imo campaigns should conduct their internal polls but public polls have become a serious problem for elections.

[Spurtacular]

(On Nov 1) 3.6 Mregistered voters; and apparently almost every one of them voted.

:lolK

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe now that Trump is out, the shy-Trump voter phenomenom goes with him? At which point the polling now becomes a little more accurate?

I'd be fine with ditching polling all together. In fact, I'd like the (D) or (R) classification removed from candidate's name on the ballot. Would force the lazy electorate, low information voters to do a little homework and find out who supports what.
agreed

and I think Mitt Romney was ahead or tied in polls and lost Ohio/Florida

so there's that

[TimDunkem]

the corporate welfare will trickle down to the working classhttps://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/troll.png

Still the most hilarious Repug joke. Almost as good as the healthcare plan that's two weeks away.

[Reck]

The AP just called Wisconsin for papa Joe, btw.

[hater]

Nevada and arizona are shady.

Holy shit Trump could still be 6 electoral votes away from taking it from Biden :wow

Shits getting real

[ChumpDumper]

Still the most hilarious Repug joke. Almost as good as the healthcare plan that's two weeks away.Oh shit, now we'll never see Trump's health care plan!

[ChumpDumper]

Nevada and arizona are shady.Explain.

[Reck]

Explain.

Hater is a bloviator. he doesn't do explaining.

[hater]

Explain.

Nevada stopped reporting for today.

Arizona I think some GOPer said they "found" like 300k ballots

[Warlord23]

Pretty simple. Run a more presidential populist candidate like Josh Hawley (a lot more likeable than Tom Cotton imo) who can keep most of the new voters Trump got but also also win suburban voters back. Not that the candidate they run in 2024 really matters if the Dems run Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, both of which will get crushed.

If Trump had lost big and done down-ballot damage, the GOP would have gone down that route.

Now that Trump is losing a close one while achieving a high R turnout, the GOP 2024 primary will have people like Don Jr., Ron Desantis, James Woods and Tucker Carlson trying to see who can be the Trumpiest of all

[hater]

Hater is a bloviator. he doesn't do explaining.

Owned :lmao

Wreck :lol

[ElNono]

pretty quiet tonight :lol

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Nevada stopped reporting for today.

Arizona I think some GOPer said they "found" like 300k ballotsAnd why is that shady, hater?

What's your conspiracy theory here?

[Reck]

Owned :lmao

Wreck :lol

You posted incorrect info.

[baseline bum]

NATHANIEL RAKICH
NOV. 4, 2:20 PM
It doesn’t matter nearly as much as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, etc., but the Associated Press is projecting that Trump has won Maine’s 2nd Congressional District and its one electoral vote. However, we at ABC News have not yet projected a winner here.

[Will Hunting]

Maybe now that Trump is out, the shy-Trump voter phenomenom goes with him? At which point the polling now becomes a little more accurate?

I'd be fine with ditching polling all together. In fact, I'd like the (D) or (R) classification removed from candidate's name on the ballot. Would force the lazy electorate, low information voters to do a little homework and find out who supports what.
Is it the shy Trump voter the polls screwed up on or just not accounting for how much more turnout Trump would get from rural America? Probably both, but worth noting the one swing state polls seem to have gotten right was AZ, the state with only a very small rural white vote. I have no idea but I’m pretty annoyed I donated money to senate races that never had a prayer.

[baseline bum]

If Trump had lost big and done down-ballot damage, the GOP would have gone down that route.

Now that Trump is losing a close one while achieving a high R turnout, the GOP 2024 primary will have people like Don Jr., Ron Desantis, James Woods and Tucker Carlson trying to see who can be the Trumpiest of all

I was thinking DeSantis too earlier, but who do they have who would be as good manipulating the media as Trump is? Trump may be lazy and an ignoramus but he knows how to push peoples' buttons and he gets the media coverage he wants. He has been a master using the media since way before he got into politics.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing

[Will Hunting]

If Trump had lost big and done down-ballot damage, the GOP would have gone down that route.

Now that Trump is losing a close one while achieving a high R turnout, the GOP 2024 primary will have people like Don Jr., Ron Desantis, James Woods and Tucker Carlson trying to see who can be the Trumpiest of all
Unfortunately being the Trumpiest candidate running against a milquetoast establishment democrat seems to work well provided that you didn’t get 230k people killed in a pandemic. The Democrats are going to need a game changer in 2024 to have any kind of s chance.

[rmt]

Pretty simple. Run a more presidential populist candidate like Josh Hawley (a lot more likeable than Tom Cotton imo) who can keep most of the new voters Trump got but also also win suburban voters back. Not that the candidate they run in 2024 really matters if the Dems run Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, both of which will get crushed.

Why do you think Biden or Harris will be crushed by GOP candidate?

[ChumpDumper]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing

Why do people just post random numbers and not the source of the numbers or anything else about the numbers?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Why do people just post random numbers and not the source of the numbers?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.actionnetwork.com/politics/election-odds-predictions-trump-biden-betting-presidential-race-2020

[midnightpulp]

Whoa.

1324069252555485189

[Millennial_Messiah]

Unfortunately being the Trumpiest candidate running against a milquetoast establishment democrat seems to work well provided that you didn’t get 230k people killed in a pandemic. The Democrats are going to need a game changer in 2024 to have any kind of s chance.
In contrast... if Trump had won this time, any Democratic candidate with a pulse would have won in 2024, correct?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing
Why is it not 100% tbh? 100% of the ballots in Wisconsin have been cast and Biden won. 99% in Michigan and Biden is up a full percentage point.

[Bogie]

Why do people just post random numbers and not the source of the numbers or anything else about the numbers?


in his case, it’s because he’s a liar

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.actionnetwork.com/politics/election-odds-predictions-trump-biden-betting-presidential-race-2020So the source is actually European sportsbook Betfair which obviously has its finger on the pulse of American electoral politics.

It's the same thing that happened last night. Rube bettors saw something and made a bet.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The AP just called Wisconsin for papa Joe, btw.
100% of the votes were counted as of a few hours ago

[baseline bum]

Whoa.

1324069252555485189

Hope so, don't trust NV at all

[Will Hunting]

Why do you think Biden or Harris will be crushed by GOP candidate?
Because if not for COVID, we’d be talking about how Biden/Harris got crushed by Trump right now. The Dems aren’t going to get anything done the next 4 years because they don’t have a senate majority, so Biden and Harris won’t have any kind of a track record to run on as an incumbent. The only way the Dems won in 2024 is with an unorthodox candidate who promises something very different from the Democratic platform of “say we’re going to do stuff then cry about it when McConnell gets in our way.”

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Why is it not 100% tbh? 100% of the ballots in Wisconsin have been cast and Biden won. 99% in Michigan and Biden is up a full percentage point.
They must like how PA is looking

[ChumpDumper]

in his case, it’s because he’s a liarNo I can see betting sites' changing their odds.

It's meant absolutely nothing all along.

[Reck]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.actionnetwork.com/politics/election-odds-predictions-trump-biden-betting-presidential-race-2020

They're not factoring in Wisconsin.

[midnightpulp]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing

Nothing. Betting odds aren't a reflection of real world odds. Bookmakers will shift them to get an even amount on both sides. There's probably gamblers taking a cheeky flyer on Trump or betting on Trump to hedge, so it's a win/win for them in case something improbable happens.

[Bogie]

No I can see betting sites' changing their odds.

It's meant absolutely nothing all along.


I don’t care about the link. He’s just a liar

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

They're not factoring in Wisconsin.
Its already factored

[TDfan2007]

Is it the shy Trump voter the polls screwed up on or just not accounting for how much more turnout Trump would get from rural America? Probably both, but worth noting the one swing state polls seem to have gotten right was AZ, the state with only a very small rural white vote. I have no idea but I’m pretty annoyed I donated money to senate races that never had a prayer.

Same. I donated to Dems in SC and Kentucky...might as well have lit the money on fire

[Will Hunting]

In contrast... if Trump had won this time, any Democratic candidate with a pulse would have won in 2024, correct?
Who knows. I don’t think Democrats realize how much they’re losing working class voters. If they’re running candidates like Biden they’re not winning working class voters back no matter how bad the economy might be in 2024.

[rmt]

I was thinking DeSantis too earlier, but who do they have who would be as good manipulating the media as Trump is? Trump may be lazy and an ignoramus but he knows how to push peoples' buttons and he gets the media coverage he wants. He has been a master using the media since way before he got into politics.

I think it'd be very difficult to duplicate a Trump-type candidate - he would have to have money to back/fund all the lawsuits that Trump has thrown at him. Trump had a lot of unique marketing/management skills, background and money - doesn't have to worry about life after/future in politics.

[ElNono]

NATHANIEL RAKICH
NOV. 4, 2:20 PM
It doesn’t matter nearly as much as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, etc., but the Associated Press is projecting that Trump has won Maine’s 2nd Congressional District and its one electoral vote. However, we at ABC News have not yet projected a winner here.

WTF? I thought Joe had that one? That one could really hurt for Joe.

[gambit1990]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing
msnbc after winning wisconsin: biden paths to victory when down a few, the paths to a tie when down, but i think trump's paths stayed the same. i thought that was weird.

they didn't mentioned it at all but i noticed the graphics before and after.

[rmt]

Because if not for COVID, we’d be talking about how Biden/Harris got crushed by Trump right now. The Dems aren’t going to get anything done the next 4 years because they don’t have a senate majority, so Biden and Harris won’t have any kind of a track record to run on as an incumbent. The only way the Dems won in 2024 is with an unorthodox candidate who promises something very different from the Democratic platform of “say we’re going to do stuff then cry about it when McConnell gets in our way.”

You mean I might enjoy a Biden presidency more than you ? :-) Poor WH.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol derp, Qhris and TSAnon waiting for good news.

[ElNono]

Odds just shifted from 82% to 74% Biden. Wondering what they are seeing

NE-2 could've been the tiebreaking vote to put Joe at 270, even losing GA and PA... it was projected to go to Joe last night, but if it ended up in Trump's tally, then Joe's road to the WH is more complicated.

[boutons_deux]

Trump campaign vows to request recount in Wisconsin
Trump's re-election campaign has already said (https://theweek.com/speedreads/947898/trump-campaign-vows-request-recount-wisconsin) it will request a recount in Wisconsin as

Biden leads by about 20,000 votes.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/947898/trump-campaign-vows-request-recount-wisconsin

[gambit1990]

NE-2 could've been the tiebreaking vote to put Joe at 270, even losing GA and PA... it was projected to go to Joe last night, but if it ended up in Trump's tally, then Joe's road to the WH is more complicated.
yeah, that sounds right.

[spurraider21]

WTF? I thought Joe had that one? That one could really hurt for Joe.
nah trump was always grabbing one from maine, but biden grabbing one from nebraska helped

[Spurminator]

It's very rare historically for an incumbent to lose re-election. If Biden is alive in 2024, he'll be the candidate. Dems need to overhaul their outreach in the meantime.

[Millennial_Messiah]

FOX officially called Wisconsin for Biden. It's OVER.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump campaign vows to request recount in Wisconsin
Trump's re-election campaign has already said (https://theweek.com/speedreads/947898/trump-campaign-vows-request-recount-wisconsin) it will request a recount in Wisconsin as

Biden leads by about 20,000 votes.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/947898/trump-campaign-vows-request-recount-wisconsinGood luck. The last recount netted him 131 votes.

[Will Hunting]

NE-2 could've been the tiebreaking vote to put Joe at 270, even losing GA and PA... it was projected to go to Joe last night, but if it ended up in Trump's tally, then Joe's road to the WH is more complicated.
It didn’t. You’re confusing NE-2 with ME-2, which was just called for Trump.

[baseline bum]

WTF? I thought Joe had that one? That one could really hurt for Joe.

It's pretty meaningless since he got NE-2 and the rest of Maine and Gideon lost anyways. Had Trump gotten NE-2 though there would have been a great chance the EC would have ended tied 269-269 with ME-2 going to Trump.

https://i.ibb.co/mXccNzP/269.png

As it stands with NE-2 called for Biden that map would be 270-268 Biden.

[Spurtacular]

Just to bring everyone up to speed:

-Trump won the election last night. He declared victory at around 3AM

-The voter fraud machine is turned on and overclocked in MI, VA, PA, WI, NV

-Phase 2 of the enemy plan is going into effect. There will be coordinated suppression of Trump and his supporters across all online platforms

-Trump has been expecting this and has a lawfare plan. This is going to SCOTUS

-Psyops will be very heavy for the next few days, possibly weeks

-Do not get blackpilled, do not give up

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who knows. I don’t think Democrats realize how much they’re losing working class voters. If they’re running candidates like Biden they’re not winning working class voters back no matter how bad the economy might be in 2024.
If the economy is bad under a Democrat they'll almost certainly lose, since people equate GOP to economy good

the only reason Biden was able to pull the miracle this time was the covid and nothing elsePERIOD.

[rmt]

NE-2 could've been the tiebreaking vote to put Joe at 270, even losing GA and PA... it was projected to go to Joe last night, but if it ended up in Trump's tally, then Joe's road to the WH is more complicated.

Biden has won NE-2 - don't worry - that takes him to 270 with NV, WI and MI. It's Maine-2 for Trump - irrelevant.

[boutons_deux]

When remaining states are expected to be called (https://theweek.com/speedreads/947905/when-remaining-states-are-expected-called)


Arizona — Expect a call some time on Wednesday (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/election-results-day-2.html).

Georgia — The final count could be finished (https://www.ajc.com/politics/live-updates-what-the-ajcs-politics-team-is-watching-in-georgia/MCYDKE7DQFGERJFDFYGG3VGZYQ/) later on Wednesday, Trump is leading, but Biden may get a boost from the outstanding votes.

Michigan — Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson said (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2020-10-08/election-night-in-the-u-s#5FA2D7F1B2240000?sref=a2d7LMhq) Wednesday that tens of thousands of ballots need to be counted, but an unofficial result could be reached by the end of the day.

Nevada accepting (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/election-results-day-2.html) mail ballots postmarked by Election Day through Nov. 10, so the final outcome may not be known for more than a week. Biden leads narrowly.

North Carolina — Mail-in ballots will arrive (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/election-results-day-2.html) through Nov. 12.

Pennsylvania — State lection officials began counting ballots again Wednesday morning, and Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar said (https://twitter.com/ABCNewsLive/status/1324029570664800256) there are "millions" left. Officials expect (https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/) the tally to wrap up Friday.

Wisconsin — All votes are counted (https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1324027105982763011) with Biden reportedly ahead by about 20,000, but the Trump campaign is planning to request (https://theweek.com/speedreads/947898/trump-campaign-vows-request-recount-wisconsin) a recount as soon as the 10-day moratorium is up.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/947907/biden-projected-win-wisconsin

[Will Hunting]

You mean I might enjoy a Biden presidency more than you ? :-) Poor WH.
Nope, I’ll enjoy the conservative tears once election results are official.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's pretty meaningless since he got NE-2 and the rest of Maine and Gideon lost anyways. Had Trump gotten NE-2 though there would have been a great chance the EC would have ended tied 269-269 with ME-2 going to Trump.

https://i.ibb.co/mXccNzP/269.png

As it stands with NE-2 called for Biden that map would be 270-268 Biden.
That was my map. Please don't steal my map, that's plagiarism. Thank you! Deuces.

[ChumpDumper]

Just to bring everyone up to speed:

-Trump won the election last night. He declared victory at around 3AM

-The voter fraud machine is turned on and overclocked in MI, VA, PA, WI, NV

-Phase 2 of the enemy plan is going into effect. There will be coordinated suppression of Trump and his supporters across all online platforms

-Trump has been expecting this and has a lawfare plan. This is going to SCOTUS

-Psyops will be very heavy for the next few days, possibly weeks

-Do not get blackpilled, do not give up
Who wrote this, derp?

[boutons_deux]

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[Spurtacular]

Does it matter how you vote when our banana republic oligarchs stop counting the votes and start dumping hundreds of thousands of votes for their dementia patient candidate at 5am while you’re asleep to steal the election?

[ducks]

Nate Silver NateSilver538
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Trump needs to win the remaining AZ votes by something like 20-25% depending on how many ballots there are. By party registration, late-arriving mail votes were something like +19% R, per my (quick) calculations.

[Reck]

WTF? I thought Joe had that one? That one could really hurt for Joe.

Lifted from another board I post in.

Apache: 63% reported, Biden 66.8%, Trump 32.1% (Clinton won this with 66.8%) - probably net Biden a few thousand
Coconino: 86% reported, Biden 62,9%, Trump 32.1% (Clinton won this with 54.2%) - probably net Biden a few thousand
Pima: 89% reported, Biden 60.1%, Trump 38.4% (Clinton won this with 53.3%) - probably net Biden a few thousand
Pinal: 90% reported, Trump 55.9%, Biden 42.5% (Trump won this with 56.2% in 2016) probably net Trump a few thousand
Cochise: 76% reported, Trump 57.4%, Biden 40.7% (Trump won this with 56.2% in 2016) - probably net Trump a few thousand
Greenlee 76% reported, Trump 64.0%, Biden 34.0% (Trump won this with 57.3% in 2016) - probably net Trump a few hundred

[ElNono]

nah trump was always grabbing one from maine, but biden grabbing one from nebraska helped

Oh, so this is a different state

[ElNono]

Nevermind... Nebraska NE2 doesn't change anything for Joe's path to 270

[ChumpDumper]

Does it matter how you vote when our banana republic oligarchs stop counting the votes and start dumping hundreds of thousands of votes for their dementia patient candidate at 5am while you’re asleep to steal the election?What's your conspiracy theory here, derp?

[Joseph Kony]

magatards in full conspiracy meltdown mode as expected :lol

like we all knew, they will be the ones rioting in the streets any day now tbh

[hater]

Which Trumptards are going to start mobilizing and go out and get their vote respected? :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who wrote this, derp?
himself

[ChumpDumper]

Which Trumptards are going to start mobilizing and go out and get their vote respected? :lmao

Are you calling it for Biden?:wow

[hater]

magatards in full conspiracy meltdown mode as expected :lol

like we all knew, they will be the ones rioting in the streets any day now tbh

That is the key question. They would have to be influenced through social media by a powerful entity. Whether thats Trump himself, GOP, deep state, china, Russia who knows.

[baseline bum]

Nevermind... Nebraska NE2 doesn't change anything for Joe's path to 270

What are you talking about? It makes his winning way more likely since it eliminated the 269-269 deadlock there would have been should he win AZ + NV + WI + MI and lose PA + NC + GA.

[RD2191]

Are you calling it for Biden?:wow
:lol

[hater]

:lmao Ghouli Ghouliani about to have a presser :lol

This will be interesting

[JPB]

I think it'd be very difficult to duplicate a Trump-type candidate - he would have to have money to back/fund all the lawsuits that Trump has thrown at him. Trump had a lot of unique marketing/management skills, background and money - doesn't have to worry about life after/future in politics.

We tend to forget he lost the popular vote both against "crooked Hillary" and "Sleepy joe". And without the Hillary gate that they tried to duplicate with the Hunter Biden's mails fiasco, he would have never been president at all.

People are massively overestimating him, while he barely won and will probably lose against two of the worst dem candidates in history.

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao Ghouli Ghouliani about to have a presser :lol

This will be interesting

is he finally bout to drop det kill shot and release the laptop? :lmao :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Ghouli Ghouliani about to have a presser :lol

This will be interestingWE HAVE ANOTHER LAPTOP!

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1324062650465214465?s=19

:lol

[LkrFan]

:lmao Ghouli Ghouliani about to have a presser :lol

This will be interesting

:lol

[Spurtacular]

This ain't holding up.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/478/799/original/4165f36bf9584dda.png

[baseline bum]

We tend to forget he lost the popular vote both against "crooked Hillary" and "Sleepy joe". And without the Hillary gate that they tried to duplicate with the Hunter Biden's mails fiasco, he would have never been president at all.

I'm starting to wonder if Comey's letter did much. Same shit happened to Biden without an October surprise. Popular vote means shit, the GOP has only won it once in the last 30 years.

[ElNono]

What are you talking about? It makes his winning way more likely since it eliminated the 269-269 deadlock there would have been should he win AZ + NV + WI + MI and lose PA + NC + GA.

I keep confusing ME2 and NE2... nevermind me

[Rummpd]

Ok I have been working as doctor last 6 hours without time to get online- what is the real truth? It seems from a review of 538 and major sites that Biden near lock to have 270 locked up by tonight or worse case am and Trump is seeking recount in WI but does Trump still have a legit chance at victory? From what I am seeing Senate stays Red, House in a shocker goes a little less blue but Presidency seems headed Blue? Am I missing something?

[LkrFan]

President Derp
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1324052250227101698?s=19

:lol

[ElNono]

This ain't holding up.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/478/799/original/4165f36bf9584dda.png

They weren't "found", they've been there all along. It's called mail-in voting.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1324062650465214465?s=19

:lol
that's funny if it were true. I don't blame him for draft dodging, though. Draft/war is bullshit, especially Vietnam and to a lesser extent Iraq

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOLOL this forum is sheer gold right now compared to the rhetoric from 24 hrs ago

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3153552

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3153368

muhh cheating muhh AG :lol

[lefty]

https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/LeBron-James-Los-Angeles-Lakers-Joe-Biden-Donald-trump-1024x576.jpg

[Will Hunting]

I'm starting to wonder if Comey's letter did much. Same shit happened to Biden without an October surprise. Popular vote means shit, the GOP has only won it once in the last 30 years.
Same. I’m also convinced people who have been telling pollsters they’re undecided are actually voting for Trump and lying about it.

[ChumpDumper]

This ain't holding up.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/478/799/original/4165f36bf9584dda.png

:lmao derp is mainlining gab conspiracy theories

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/264884389639491584?s=19

:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

magatards in full conspiracy meltdown mode as expected :lol

like we all knew, they will be the ones rioting in the streets any day now tbh
Nah We have work

[Spurminator]

I'll take your word for it, I honestly haven't tracked that.

Prime example:

1324058836018307075

Collins won by 9 points

[RandomGuy]

So is this thing over yet? Can we start spamming all the forum Trumptards with doesithurt.gif yet?

Almost. Nothing to get too worked up about tho. Except the red wave thread. that will be fun.

[baseline bum]

Ok I have been working as doctor last 6 hours without time to get online- what is the real truth? It seems from a review of 538 and major sites that Biden near lock to have 270 locked up by tonight or worse case am and Trump is seeking recount in WI but does Trump still have a legit chance at victory? From what I am seeing Senate stays Red, House in a shocker goes a little less blue but Presidency seems headed Blue? Am I missing something?

The truth is who the fuck knows. WI is called for Biden. MI probably goes Biden. NV who knows. AZ has been called for Biden by the AP and one other outlet (forget which), but Republicans in the state claim they'll win it and Silver's news about republican registrations in the late mail-in vote should give the GOP a sliver of hope of maybe pulling it off. NC is pretty unlikely to flip, Trump probably has it. GA who knows? Not a whole lot of votes to count and Trump has a decent lead but the votes left are thought to be very very blue. PA who knows? None of us knows who will be president at the end of January.

[Will Hunting]

So is this thing over yet? Can we start spamming all the forum Trumptards with doesithurt.gif yet?
We should know by end of day today or noon tomorrow at the latest.

[Bogie]

Same. I’m also convinced people who have been telling pollsters they’re undecided are actually voting for Trump and lying about it.


of course they have.

[cd98]

You have to have an actual legal reason to have the Supreme Court review any election issue. You can't just say something looks funny and you think it is fraud and have the Supreme Court somehow investigate. I do not doubt there could be lawsuits at some point, but I think the margins are going to be wide enough that Trump can't make up the difference, even if he gets recounts in the battleground states and even if he were to be able to prove some kind of fraud. The disparity of votes so far is too great to think any fraud could swing the election. You can't do 100,000 fraudulent votes and not be caught.

[Joseph Kony]

Nah We have work
oh yeah with your super important jobs that were so necessary to the economy you couldnt work for 3 months :lmao :lmao