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SnakeBoy
07-01-2022, 01:28 AM
Win-win

I hope you get your wish

DarrinS
07-01-2022, 01:31 AM
Biden killing it

It = retirement accounts

daboom1
07-01-2022, 01:53 AM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1542590022905372675?t

daboom1
07-01-2022, 02:04 AM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1542684948519419908?t

ElNono
07-01-2022, 02:38 AM
I hope you get your wish

I did get my wish when Brandon beat the ever living shit out of Trump and broke you :tu

ElNono
07-01-2022, 02:39 AM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1542684948519419908?t

whatever it takes :tu

HemisfairArena
07-01-2022, 03:05 AM
I did get my wish when Brandon beat the ever living shit out of Trump and broke you :tu

dumbass,,,:lmao

HemisfairArena
07-01-2022, 03:29 AM
nono,,,like the other dumbasses on here,,,are so happy loser biden won because they hated Trump and look at America now,,,thats why I love laughing at the stupidity of posters like nono that think loser joe broke trumpers,,,,loser joe is breaking America,,,,:lmao and I hope he continues to do it,,,,I actually hope he gets elected to a 2nd term,,,the damage done will be unfixable,,,

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07-01-2022, 03:47 AM
nono,,,like the other dumbasses on here,,,are so happy loser biden won because they hated Trump and look at America now,,,thats why I love laughing at the stupidity of posters like nono that think loser joe broke trumpers,,,,loser joe is breaking America,,,,:lmao and I hope he continues to do it,,,,I actually hope he gets elected to a 2nd term,,,the damage done will be unfixable,,,


HemisfairArena!!!!!!!!!

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Ef-man
07-01-2022, 02:06 PM
Who triggered the daily dialysis kid?

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07-01-2022, 02:29 PM
Who triggered the daily dialysis kid?


...A treasure trove of FOX cartoons.

Let us proceed...

Ef-man
07-01-2022, 02:44 PM
Is it the anniversary of trump’s impeachment(s) already?

:lmao:lmao:lmao

ElNono
07-01-2022, 03:23 PM
nono,,,like the other dumbasses on here,,,are so happy loser biden won because they hated Trump and look at America now,,,thats why I love laughing at the stupidity of posters like nono that think loser joe broke trumpers,,,,loser joe is breaking America,,,,:lmao and I hope he continues to do it,,,,I actually hope he gets elected to a 2nd term,,,the damage done will be unfixable,,,

^^^ this is a big loser talking... still triggered so badly. Joe broke you :lmao:lmao:lmao

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SnakeBoy
07-01-2022, 04:34 PM
The octogenarian Democrats would rather watch this country burn that cede power to the next generation.

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Winehole23
07-01-2022, 11:30 PM
The octogenarian Democrats would rather watch this country burn that cede power to the next generation.and they wonder why they don't connect with voters

daboom1
07-01-2022, 11:33 PM
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1543059742981079041?t

hater deer in headlights :lol

Ef-man
07-01-2022, 11:55 PM
For the First Time, US Is Sending More Gas to Europe Than Russia

For the first time, the US is supplying more natural gas to Europe than Russia sends by pipelines, according to the International Energy Agency.

Europe is seeking alternatives such as US liquefied natural gas to Russian supplies after Gazprom PJSC slashed shipments through Nord Stream, its biggest pipeline to Europe, and cut off shipments to countries that didn’t comply with new payment terms. Russia met more than a third of the European Union’s gas demand last year.

“Russia’s recent steep cuts in natural gas flows to the EU mean this is the first month in history in which the EU has imported more gas via LNG from the US than via pipeline from Russia,” IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol said in a tweet. “The drop in Russian supply calls for efforts to reduce EU demand to prepare for a tough winter.”

The increase in US LNG imports comes as the nation ramps up output of the super-chilled fuel after starting exports from the Gulf Coast in 2016, transforming global energy trade. US shipments remain strong even after a fire at the Freeport LNG plant in Texas, which has been shut for prolonged repairs.

After Russia’s war on Ukraine, the EU in March agreed on an additional 15 billion cubic meters of US LNG this year in a bid to displace Russian gas. In an ambitious target, the bloc has sought to replace a third of Russian gas with LNG from various sources this year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-01/us-lng-supplies-to-europe-overtake-russian-gas-iea-says

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💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 Go Joe Go💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 💰

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ElNono
07-02-2022, 03:33 AM
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1543059742981079041?t

Our next POTUS <3

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Winehole23
07-02-2022, 09:53 AM
Seven in 10 Americans say they do not want President Biden to run for a second term, according to a new poll that comes as Biden’s approval numbers remain low and his party braces for losses this November.

A Harvard CAPS–Harris Poll survey shared exclusively with The Hill found that 71 percent of respondents polled do not think Biden should run for a second term, compared to 29 percent who say he should run.


Among the contingent of respondents who believe the president should not run, 45 percent said Biden should not make another bid because he is a bad president, while about one-third of respondents said he is too old and about one-quarter said because it is time for a change.https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3543867-71-percent-dont-want-biden-to-run-for-reelection-poll/

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Winehole23
07-02-2022, 10:20 AM
Continuity with Trump wrt privatizing Medicare.


By the end of this decade, the government aims to put the last group of seniors, some 35 million of them still in traditional Medicare, into some version of managed care. That means in eight years, 64 million Americans age 65 and older will get their care from either an “accountable care organization” or a Medicare Advantage plan that will be responsible for managing their health needs, deciding what services they will get, which ones they’ll pay for, and most important for Medicare, attempt to reduce the overall cost of health services for seniors — and presumably saving the government gobs of money. (Accountable care organizations are tasked with caring for groups of patients, with financial incentives to hit quality benchmarks and penalties when costs balloon.)

The shift would also complete the privatization of what has been a popular and successful social insurance program since 1965. Whether that underlying goal will be realized remains to be seen, but at the very least, millions of seniors still in the traditional fee-for-service program and presumably happy with their care need to know what’s in store for them. Seniors, who will be automatically “aligned” as Medicare calls it, in these plans beginning next year, can opt out. One catch is that they will lose their primary care doctor and must find a new one who is not participating in this five-year demonstration project. https://centerforhealthjournalism.org/2022/06/16/one-way-or-another-federal-government-still-bent-pushing-medicare-private-hands

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Winehole23
07-02-2022, 10:47 AM
Old and out of touch.

What's the electoral calculus here? That he'll get brownie points from independents for letting himself be gulled McConnell?

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daboom1
07-02-2022, 02:02 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1543235499430936577?t

SnakeBoy
07-02-2022, 02:34 PM
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daboom1
07-02-2022, 03:19 PM
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1543321741417750529?t

SnakeBoy
07-02-2022, 04:21 PM
Old and out of touch.

What's the electoral calculus here? That he'll get brownie points from independents for letting himself be gulled McConnell?

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daboom1
07-02-2022, 04:55 PM
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ducks
07-02-2022, 08:28 PM
Actor Jon Voight: Biden 'Must Be Impeached'

benefactor
07-02-2022, 08:31 PM
Act:lolr J:loln V:lolight: Biden 'Must Be Impeached'

ElNono
07-02-2022, 08:56 PM
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Need to add Russia to that graph... makes everyone else look a lot better, tbh...

ElNono
07-02-2022, 08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1543235499430936577?t

Fake news...

Biden proposes limited drilling leases off Gulf of Mexico and Alaska
JULY 1, 2022

NEW ORLEANS — The Biden administration on Friday proposed up to 10 oil and gas lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico and one off the Alaska coast over the next five years, scaling back a Trump-era plan that called for dozens of offshore drilling opportunities, including in undeveloped areas.
Administration officials said fewer lease sales — or even no lease sales at all — could occur, with a final decision not due for months.

The Interior Department had suspended lease sales in late January because of climate concerns but was forced to resume them by a U.S. district judge in Louisiana. The Biden administration cited conflicting court rulings about that decision when it canceled the last three lease sales of the previous offshore leasing cycle.

That prior five-year cycle, a program adopted under former President Obama, expired Thursday.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-07-01/biden-offshore-drilling-proposal-would-allow-up-to-11-sales

Cuck Callest:lol

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HemisfairArena
07-02-2022, 09:47 PM
Actor Jon Voight: Biden 'Must Be Impeached'

When republicans take back the house in november,,,biden will be impeached. No worries,,,,

ChumpDumper
07-02-2022, 10:05 PM
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You left out the oil industry's refinery closures.

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daboom1
07-02-2022, 11:34 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulSperry30/status/1543425919741739008?t

Spurminator
07-03-2022, 10:59 AM
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I laughed.

Spurminator
07-03-2022, 10:59 AM
When did Bot Sperry get his Twitter account back?

Dirks_Finale
07-03-2022, 01:24 PM
Actor Jon Voight: Biden 'Must Be Impeached'

As bad as this mummy is, Kamala has to be the least qualified and most unlikable person in D.C. No to impeaching Brandon.

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07-03-2022, 01:49 PM
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I laughed.

Bend over. I'll make ya fuckin' laugh.

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07-03-2022, 01:50 PM
As bad as this mummy is, Kamala has to be the least qualified and most unlikable person in D.C. No to impeaching Brandon.

As unsavory as her ascension would be I'd still stand it just to see that bastard impeached.

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07-03-2022, 01:53 PM
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ElNono
07-03-2022, 04:29 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulSperry30/status/1543425919741739008?t


When did Bot Sperry get his Twitter account back?

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SnakeBoy
07-03-2022, 08:50 PM
President Joe Biden's approval rating is down to the lowest of his presidency, at only 31 percent approval and 57 percent disapproval, according to the CIVIQS rolling job-approval average as of Saturday.

While 12 percent of all survey participants did not approve or disapprove of the president, the majority of respondents in 48 states disapprove of Biden's job performance. The only two states in which he is above water are Hawaii and Vermont.

Overall, Biden has a net approval of negative 26.

The 31 percent approval rating marks Biden's worst approval rating since becoming president, down from 32 percent and 33 percent in earlier June and 34 percent in May.

Biden is underwater with independent respondents a voter bloc which has an increasingly strong influence on election results. Only 20 percent of independent respondents say they approve of Biden, while 67 percent disapprove, with 13 percent having no opinion.

ElNono
07-03-2022, 09:29 PM
President Joe Biden's approval rating is down to the lowest of his presidency, at only 31 percent approval and 57 percent disapproval, according to the CIVIQS rolling job-approval average as of Saturday.

While 12 percent of all survey participants did not approve or disapprove of the president, the majority of respondents in 48 states disapprove of Biden's job performance. The only two states in which he is above water are Hawaii and Vermont.

Overall, Biden has a net approval of negative 26.

The 31 percent approval rating marks Biden's worst approval rating since becoming president, down from 32 percent and 33 percent in earlier June and 34 percent in May.

Biden is underwater with independent respondents a voter bloc which has an increasingly strong influence on election results. Only 20 percent of independent respondents say they approve of Biden, while 67 percent disapprove, with 13 percent having no opinion.

The one saving grace for him is that he's still triggering Trumptards, and he can absolutely claim he broke you :tu

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07-03-2022, 10:08 PM
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Energy producers go scorched earth on Biden's gas price tweet with mocking message for 'WH intern' (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/u-s-energy-roast-biden-demanding-companies-running-gas-stations-lower-pump-prices#&_intcmp=hp1bt1,hp1bt)

HemisfairArena
07-03-2022, 10:22 PM
The one saving grace for him is that he's still triggering Trumptards, and he can absolutely claim he broke you :tu

biden has broke everybody and you voted for him,,,

ElNono
07-03-2022, 10:28 PM
biden has broke everybody and you voted for him,,,

^^^ talking about big losers that Old Joe broke when he beat Dennison in a landslide :lol

daboom1
07-03-2022, 11:26 PM
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Energy producers go scorched earth on Biden's gas price tweet with mocking message for 'WH intern' (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/u-s-energy-roast-biden-demanding-companies-running-gas-stations-lower-pump-prices#&_intcmp=hp1bt1,hp1bt)

I almost feel bad for that new press secretary and Doocy going for blood on every question.

ElNono
07-03-2022, 11:45 PM
I almost feel bad for that new press secretary and Doocy going for blood on every question.

Like "my parents watching Rachel Maddow next door" bad or?

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HemisfairArena
07-04-2022, 12:14 AM
^^^ talking about big losers that Old Joe broke when he beat Dennison in a landslide :lol

You voted for biden,,,:lmao

ElNono
07-04-2022, 04:24 AM
You voted for biden,,,:lmao

Of course I did, and he did his job: He beat the ever living shit out of Dennison and left a mark in your asshole that's never going away :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

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07-04-2022, 04:43 AM
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SnakeBoy
07-04-2022, 03:21 PM
1543598296668803075

Blake
07-04-2022, 03:26 PM
1543598296668803075

Yeah, Biden deserved that.

Thread
07-04-2022, 05:15 PM
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SnakeBoy
07-04-2022, 05:21 PM
Yeah, Biden deserved that.

Whatabout this

1543346427513999364

SnakeBoy
07-04-2022, 05:26 PM
and this

1543409762867494912

daboom1
07-04-2022, 06:01 PM
This thread feels like kicking a dead horse these days :lol

Only person defending Biden is ElPendejo :lol

Blake
07-04-2022, 06:10 PM
This thread feels like kicking a dead horse these days :lol

Only person defending Biden is ElPendejo :lol

You're thinking of the Trump thread

SnakeBoy
07-04-2022, 06:15 PM
Biden Malaise doin work...

It’s time for Democrats to fear their own voters
David Sirota

Republican politicians fear their base, while Democratic politicians don’t. That’s why we are in this mess

After the overturning of Roe v Wade, there is bad news and there is good news. But first, an admission.

For most of my adult life, I’ve clung to a grand unifying theory: the only way to fight off rightwing fascism is to build not just a well-organized progressive movement, but to also mobilize rank-and-file apolitical Democratic voters to press their own party to deliver.

If Democratic base constituencies – college-educated white-collars, communities of color, young people, etc – went beyond merely voting in November and actually made demands of their Democratic lawmakers (and held them accountable in primaries), then maybe the party would pursue its purported agenda with the same urgency as the Republican party does for its conservative base. And if that happened, maybe more voters would flock to Democrats who were materially improving their lives.

Over the last 25 years, the opposite has happened.

While Republican normie voters were being radicalized by Fox News and talk radio, Democratic normie voters were being anesthetized by NPR, the New York Times, the Atlantic and MSNBC, which taught them to believe that an extremist like John Roberts is a lovable moderate, Mike Pence is an American hero, George Bush is a decent guy, and an operative who installed Sam Alito on the court is a warrior for democracy.

That media machine convinced Democratic normies to believe the highest calling of citizenship was to simply line up behind party-approved candidates, crush progressive challengers in primaries, and “vote blue, no matter who” in general elections – and then do nothing more, even when “electable” conservative Democrats lost and the few winners produced no change. The worst thing anyone could do, they taught viewers, was criticize, pressure, or protest Democratic leaders to try to get them to do anything.

At the same time, Barack Obama and his administration persuaded normie Democrats that the celebrity candidate would save the day, that progressive pressure campaigns are “fucking retarded”, and that Obama’s hand-picked candidate, Hillary Clinton, was the most viable successor. Meanwhile, the labor movement was crushed by Democrats’ trade deals and corporate union busting, disempowering what had been a radicalizing force inside the Democratic coalition.

And yet, here’s the admission: it wasn’t just external factors that undermined this effort to mobilize normies. It was a failure of an entire generation of operatives, activists, advocacy journalists, policy wonks, philanthropists, filmmakers, pundits, labor leaders, thinktankers, Capitol Hill staff and politicians in left-of-center politics – and I include myself in that group of failures.

We could console ourselves by feeling like Don’t Look Up’s Dr Mindy when he points up at the comet and says: “We’ve been trying to warn you!”

But let’s admit it: the campaigns, advocacy and pressure of my generation and the Boomers did not radicalize the normies quickly enough. We were not just outgunned by conservatives, outspent by corporatists, and undermined by liberal careerists selling their souls for the next hot take – we were also outmaneuvered, outsmarted and outperformed.

We failed, and that failure allowed Democratic leaders to never fear their own base – to the point where Democratic voters gave their presidential nomination to the candidate who authored the crime bill, allied with segregationists, championed the Iraq war, touted social security cuts, voted to let states restrict abortion and sharpened bankruptcy laws.

So here’s the bad news: because this dynamic allowed Democratic leaders to never feel the heat of accountability, they never wielded their power to make a serious effort to avert the current nightmare. In many cases, they did the opposite.

The Obama presidency was defined by initiatives to prop up health insurance predators, protect Wall Street criminals and abandon promises to Democratic voters, which created the backlash conditions and depressed turnout that helped lead to Donald Trump’s ascent. The Biden presidency has been similarly defined by the party living up to the president’s promise that “nothing would fundamentally change” – and its attendant unwillingness to materially improve the lives of anyone other than billionaires and corporate executives, all while the administration boosts various rightwing causes.

The crescendo of this phantasmagoria has led to this grim reality: As conservative justices now turn on a spigot of extremist rulings, the Democratic president is giving half-hearted speeches pretending he has no power, and issuing reports declining to even support expanding the supreme court – due to concerns about protecting “its independence and legitimacy”.

For their part, Democratic congressional leaders are singing patriotic ballads while sending out fundraising emails. They expect yet another positive response from a base that up until now has politely asked for – but never really demanded – anything from them in return.

If you’ve somehow read this far, you are probably gut-punched. But here’s the good-news payoff for still being here: yes, there are signs that at this dangerously late hour, normie Democratic voters may finally have had enough of this shit.

Last month, a stat buried in an NBC News poll showed that nearly two thirds of Democratic voters said they now want a candidate “who proposes larger-scale policies that cost more and might be harder to pass into law, but could bring major change”. Just a third said they prefer a candidate “who proposes smaller-scale policies that cost less and might be easier to pass into law, but will bring less change on these issues”.

Put another way: 63% of the party is finally radicalized, and just 33% are still clinging to the normie view. This might explain why a group of progressive congressional challengers recently overcame the odds and won their primaries, even against party leaders’ endorsements.

At the same time, a Fairleigh Dickinson University survey found a plurality of Americans no longer buy Democrats’ argument that they have no power to do anything – and that includes a quarter of Democrats and nearly half of independents. A full 50% of Democrats say Joe Biden has power to reduce inflation and healthcare costs.

Quinnipiac’s new poll also shows just a quarter of young voters approve of the way Biden is handling his job, and his numbers are similarly low among Black and Latino voters.

Taken together, this is empirical proof that core Democratic constituencies may finally be evaluating their party’s president on his actual record, rather than just mindlessly cheering him on because he’s wearing the blue home-team jersey.

This healthy attitude is starting to seep into popular culture. As one example: The Daily Show – historically the normiest of normie Democratic television programs – is now openly mocking party leaders’ refusal to do anything to stop the Republican onslaught. As Democratic policy wonk Will Stancil put it, that’s a sign that “anger at do-nothing Dems really has gone completely mainstream in a way that seemed impossible three or four years ago”.

If history is any indication, that’s good. Democratic leaders only did things like enact social security, create Medicare, pass the Voting Rights Act and end the Vietnam war once they feared the electoral consequences of inaction. The same dynamic holds today: you can bet Democratic leaders will not fulfill their longtime promise to statutorily codify reproductive rights until and unless they feel the same kind of anger and pressure as their predecessors felt in their day.

That’s how democracy is supposed to work: we’re supposed to evaluate representatives not on their personalities or party affiliations, but on their records, and when they fail to deliver on their promises, those representatives are supposed to fear being denied their party’s nomination and thrown out of office by their own voters.

“Politicians respond to only one thing – power,” wrote Ta-Nehisi Coates back in 2011. “This is not the flaw of democracy, it’s the entire point. It’s the job of activists to generate, and apply, enough pressure on the system to affect change.”

That’s how the American right ultimately brought us to this horrible moment: They conditioned Republican voters to actually expect and demand things, and punish those who wouldn’t deliver.

That same attitude is what’s needed from Democratic voters now – not just rage aimed at the conservative ideologues turning back the clock, but also rage at the Democrats who control the government today. Those elected officials must be forced kicking and screaming – against their own desires – to actually produce. Not tomorrow. Now.

Of course, many of us have been saying this for decades – and have been berated and belittled for doing so. But at least for a moment, it finally feels like we’re no longer alone.

If that’s fleeting, we’re screwed. If it’s enduring, then there’s still a tiny glimmer of hope.

benefactor
07-04-2022, 07:18 PM
^:lol

Donald Trump isn't scared of his base. He can literally say anything and they will believe him. He controls everything they stand for. The other politicians are only worried about their base if they say things that go against Trump. Republican voters don't rule the Republican party. Trumpism does.

The Democratic party is a confused pile of horseshit. They don't know what the fuck they are or what they really even want. It started with getting Trump out of office, now they are pretty directionless.

It's all a fucking mess. A clown show on both sides with no real end in site. This country is fucked tbh.

DMC
07-04-2022, 07:20 PM
Biden Malaise doin work...

It’s time for Democrats to fear their own voters
David Sirota

Republican politicians fear their base, while Democratic politicians don’t. That’s why we are in this mess

After the overturning of Roe v Wade, there is bad news and there is good news. But first, an admission.

For most of my adult life, I’ve clung to a grand unifying theory: the only way to fight off rightwing fascism is to build not just a well-organized progressive movement, but to also mobilize rank-and-file apolitical Democratic voters to press their own party to deliver.

If Democratic base constituencies – college-educated white-collars, communities of color, young people, etc – went beyond merely voting in November and actually made demands of their Democratic lawmakers (and held them accountable in primaries), then maybe the party would pursue its purported agenda with the same urgency as the Republican party does for its conservative base. And if that happened, maybe more voters would flock to Democrats who were materially improving their lives.

Over the last 25 years, the opposite has happened.

While Republican normie voters were being radicalized by Fox News and talk radio, Democratic normie voters were being anesthetized by NPR, the New York Times, the Atlantic and MSNBC, which taught them to believe that an extremist like John Roberts is a lovable moderate, Mike Pence is an American hero, George Bush is a decent guy, and an operative who installed Sam Alito on the court is a warrior for democracy.

That media machine convinced Democratic normies to believe the highest calling of citizenship was to simply line up behind party-approved candidates, crush progressive challengers in primaries, and “vote blue, no matter who” in general elections – and then do nothing more, even when “electable” conservative Democrats lost and the few winners produced no change. The worst thing anyone could do, they taught viewers, was criticize, pressure, or protest Democratic leaders to try to get them to do anything.

At the same time, Barack Obama and his administration persuaded normie Democrats that the celebrity candidate would save the day, that progressive pressure campaigns are “fucking retarded”, and that Obama’s hand-picked candidate, Hillary Clinton, was the most viable successor. Meanwhile, the labor movement was crushed by Democrats’ trade deals and corporate union busting, disempowering what had been a radicalizing force inside the Democratic coalition.

And yet, here’s the admission: it wasn’t just external factors that undermined this effort to mobilize normies. It was a failure of an entire generation of operatives, activists, advocacy journalists, policy wonks, philanthropists, filmmakers, pundits, labor leaders, thinktankers, Capitol Hill staff and politicians in left-of-center politics – and I include myself in that group of failures.

We could console ourselves by feeling like Don’t Look Up’s Dr Mindy when he points up at the comet and says: “We’ve been trying to warn you!”

But let’s admit it: the campaigns, advocacy and pressure of my generation and the Boomers did not radicalize the normies quickly enough. We were not just outgunned by conservatives, outspent by corporatists, and undermined by liberal careerists selling their souls for the next hot take – we were also outmaneuvered, outsmarted and outperformed.

We failed, and that failure allowed Democratic leaders to never fear their own base – to the point where Democratic voters gave their presidential nomination to the candidate who authored the crime bill, allied with segregationists, championed the Iraq war, touted social security cuts, voted to let states restrict abortion and sharpened bankruptcy laws.

So here’s the bad news: because this dynamic allowed Democratic leaders to never feel the heat of accountability, they never wielded their power to make a serious effort to avert the current nightmare. In many cases, they did the opposite.

The Obama presidency was defined by initiatives to prop up health insurance predators, protect Wall Street criminals and abandon promises to Democratic voters, which created the backlash conditions and depressed turnout that helped lead to Donald Trump’s ascent. The Biden presidency has been similarly defined by the party living up to the president’s promise that “nothing would fundamentally change” – and its attendant unwillingness to materially improve the lives of anyone other than billionaires and corporate executives, all while the administration boosts various rightwing causes.

The crescendo of this phantasmagoria has led to this grim reality: As conservative justices now turn on a spigot of extremist rulings, the Democratic president is giving half-hearted speeches pretending he has no power, and issuing reports declining to even support expanding the supreme court – due to concerns about protecting “its independence and legitimacy”.

For their part, Democratic congressional leaders are singing patriotic ballads while sending out fundraising emails. They expect yet another positive response from a base that up until now has politely asked for – but never really demanded – anything from them in return.

If you’ve somehow read this far, you are probably gut-punched. But here’s the good-news payoff for still being here: yes, there are signs that at this dangerously late hour, normie Democratic voters may finally have had enough of this shit.

Last month, a stat buried in an NBC News poll showed that nearly two thirds of Democratic voters said they now want a candidate “who proposes larger-scale policies that cost more and might be harder to pass into law, but could bring major change”. Just a third said they prefer a candidate “who proposes smaller-scale policies that cost less and might be easier to pass into law, but will bring less change on these issues”.

Put another way: 63% of the party is finally radicalized, and just 33% are still clinging to the normie view. This might explain why a group of progressive congressional challengers recently overcame the odds and won their primaries, even against party leaders’ endorsements.

At the same time, a Fairleigh Dickinson University survey found a plurality of Americans no longer buy Democrats’ argument that they have no power to do anything – and that includes a quarter of Democrats and nearly half of independents. A full 50% of Democrats say Joe Biden has power to reduce inflation and healthcare costs.

Quinnipiac’s new poll also shows just a quarter of young voters approve of the way Biden is handling his job, and his numbers are similarly low among Black and Latino voters.

Taken together, this is empirical proof that core Democratic constituencies may finally be evaluating their party’s president on his actual record, rather than just mindlessly cheering him on because he’s wearing the blue home-team jersey.

This healthy attitude is starting to seep into popular culture. As one example: The Daily Show – historically the normiest of normie Democratic television programs – is now openly mocking party leaders’ refusal to do anything to stop the Republican onslaught. As Democratic policy wonk Will Stancil put it, that’s a sign that “anger at do-nothing Dems really has gone completely mainstream in a way that seemed impossible three or four years ago”.

If history is any indication, that’s good. Democratic leaders only did things like enact social security, create Medicare, pass the Voting Rights Act and end the Vietnam war once they feared the electoral consequences of inaction. The same dynamic holds today: you can bet Democratic leaders will not fulfill their longtime promise to statutorily codify reproductive rights until and unless they feel the same kind of anger and pressure as their predecessors felt in their day.

That’s how democracy is supposed to work: we’re supposed to evaluate representatives not on their personalities or party affiliations, but on their records, and when they fail to deliver on their promises, those representatives are supposed to fear being denied their party’s nomination and thrown out of office by their own voters.

“Politicians respond to only one thing – power,” wrote Ta-Nehisi Coates back in 2011. “This is not the flaw of democracy, it’s the entire point. It’s the job of activists to generate, and apply, enough pressure on the system to affect change.”

That’s how the American right ultimately brought us to this horrible moment: They conditioned Republican voters to actually expect and demand things, and punish those who wouldn’t deliver.

That same attitude is what’s needed from Democratic voters now – not just rage aimed at the conservative ideologues turning back the clock, but also rage at the Democrats who control the government today. Those elected officials must be forced kicking and screaming – against their own desires – to actually produce. Not tomorrow. Now.

Of course, many of us have been saying this for decades – and have been berated and belittled for doing so. But at least for a moment, it finally feels like we’re no longer alone.

If that’s fleeting, we’re screwed. If it’s enduring, then there’s still a tiny glimmer of hope.

"The only way change happens is if the GOP agrees" -Left

DMC
07-04-2022, 07:21 PM
^:lol

Donald Trump isn't scared of his base. He can literally say anything and they will believe him. He controls everything they stand for. The other politicians are only worried about their base if they say things that go against Trump. Republican voters don't rule the Republican party. Trumpism does.

The Democratic party is a confused pile of horseshit. They don't know what the fuck they are or what they really even want. It started with getting Trump out of office, now they are pretty directionless.

It's all a fucking mess. A clown show on both sides with no real end in site. This country is fucked tbh.

You seem to think Trump was a GOPer prior to his announcement to enter the race the 1st time. He was anything but main stream GOP.

benefactor
07-04-2022, 07:30 PM
You seem to think Trump was a GOPer prior to his announcement to enter the race the 1st time. He was anything but main stream GOP.
But he is the GOP now. They don't find a different direction unless Trump exits the picture. His followers follow him, they don't make him fear them.

benefactor
07-04-2022, 07:38 PM
Black President started the fire in the GOP. Trump came along and brought the needed fuel to make the radicalization complete.

ElNono
07-04-2022, 07:44 PM
This thread feels like kicking a dead horse these days :lol

Only person defending Biden is ElPendejo :lol

Old Joe is your daddy, and you'll never get over it.

Kicking that dead horse is pretty fun actually. :lmao:lmao:lmao

ElNono
07-04-2022, 07:45 PM
Biden Malaise doin work...

It’s time for Democrats to fear their own voters
David Sirota

Republican politicians fear their base, while Democratic politicians don’t. That’s why we are in this mess

After the overturning of Roe v Wade, there is bad news and there is good news. But first, an admission.

For most of my adult life, I’ve clung to a grand unifying theory: the only way to fight off rightwing fascism is to build not just a well-organized progressive movement, but to also mobilize rank-and-file apolitical Democratic voters to press their own party to deliver.

If Democratic base constituencies – college-educated white-collars, communities of color, young people, etc – went beyond merely voting in November and actually made demands of their Democratic lawmakers (and held them accountable in primaries), then maybe the party would pursue its purported agenda with the same urgency as the Republican party does for its conservative base. And if that happened, maybe more voters would flock to Democrats who were materially improving their lives.

Over the last 25 years, the opposite has happened.

While Republican normie voters were being radicalized by Fox News and talk radio, Democratic normie voters were being anesthetized by NPR, the New York Times, the Atlantic and MSNBC, which taught them to believe that an extremist like John Roberts is a lovable moderate, Mike Pence is an American hero, George Bush is a decent guy, and an operative who installed Sam Alito on the court is a warrior for democracy.

That media machine convinced Democratic normies to believe the highest calling of citizenship was to simply line up behind party-approved candidates, crush progressive challengers in primaries, and “vote blue, no matter who” in general elections – and then do nothing more, even when “electable” conservative Democrats lost and the few winners produced no change. The worst thing anyone could do, they taught viewers, was criticize, pressure, or protest Democratic leaders to try to get them to do anything.

At the same time, Barack Obama and his administration persuaded normie Democrats that the celebrity candidate would save the day, that progressive pressure campaigns are “fucking retarded”, and that Obama’s hand-picked candidate, Hillary Clinton, was the most viable successor. Meanwhile, the labor movement was crushed by Democrats’ trade deals and corporate union busting, disempowering what had been a radicalizing force inside the Democratic coalition.

And yet, here’s the admission: it wasn’t just external factors that undermined this effort to mobilize normies. It was a failure of an entire generation of operatives, activists, advocacy journalists, policy wonks, philanthropists, filmmakers, pundits, labor leaders, thinktankers, Capitol Hill staff and politicians in left-of-center politics – and I include myself in that group of failures.

We could console ourselves by feeling like Don’t Look Up’s Dr Mindy when he points up at the comet and says: “We’ve been trying to warn you!”

But let’s admit it: the campaigns, advocacy and pressure of my generation and the Boomers did not radicalize the normies quickly enough. We were not just outgunned by conservatives, outspent by corporatists, and undermined by liberal careerists selling their souls for the next hot take – we were also outmaneuvered, outsmarted and outperformed.

We failed, and that failure allowed Democratic leaders to never fear their own base – to the point where Democratic voters gave their presidential nomination to the candidate who authored the crime bill, allied with segregationists, championed the Iraq war, touted social security cuts, voted to let states restrict abortion and sharpened bankruptcy laws.

So here’s the bad news: because this dynamic allowed Democratic leaders to never feel the heat of accountability, they never wielded their power to make a serious effort to avert the current nightmare. In many cases, they did the opposite.

The Obama presidency was defined by initiatives to prop up health insurance predators, protect Wall Street criminals and abandon promises to Democratic voters, which created the backlash conditions and depressed turnout that helped lead to Donald Trump’s ascent. The Biden presidency has been similarly defined by the party living up to the president’s promise that “nothing would fundamentally change” – and its attendant unwillingness to materially improve the lives of anyone other than billionaires and corporate executives, all while the administration boosts various rightwing causes.

The crescendo of this phantasmagoria has led to this grim reality: As conservative justices now turn on a spigot of extremist rulings, the Democratic president is giving half-hearted speeches pretending he has no power, and issuing reports declining to even support expanding the supreme court – due to concerns about protecting “its independence and legitimacy”.

For their part, Democratic congressional leaders are singing patriotic ballads while sending out fundraising emails. They expect yet another positive response from a base that up until now has politely asked for – but never really demanded – anything from them in return.

If you’ve somehow read this far, you are probably gut-punched. But here’s the good-news payoff for still being here: yes, there are signs that at this dangerously late hour, normie Democratic voters may finally have had enough of this shit.

Last month, a stat buried in an NBC News poll showed that nearly two thirds of Democratic voters said they now want a candidate “who proposes larger-scale policies that cost more and might be harder to pass into law, but could bring major change”. Just a third said they prefer a candidate “who proposes smaller-scale policies that cost less and might be easier to pass into law, but will bring less change on these issues”.

Put another way: 63% of the party is finally radicalized, and just 33% are still clinging to the normie view. This might explain why a group of progressive congressional challengers recently overcame the odds and won their primaries, even against party leaders’ endorsements.

At the same time, a Fairleigh Dickinson University survey found a plurality of Americans no longer buy Democrats’ argument that they have no power to do anything – and that includes a quarter of Democrats and nearly half of independents. A full 50% of Democrats say Joe Biden has power to reduce inflation and healthcare costs.

Quinnipiac’s new poll also shows just a quarter of young voters approve of the way Biden is handling his job, and his numbers are similarly low among Black and Latino voters.

Taken together, this is empirical proof that core Democratic constituencies may finally be evaluating their party’s president on his actual record, rather than just mindlessly cheering him on because he’s wearing the blue home-team jersey.

This healthy attitude is starting to seep into popular culture. As one example: The Daily Show – historically the normiest of normie Democratic television programs – is now openly mocking party leaders’ refusal to do anything to stop the Republican onslaught. As Democratic policy wonk Will Stancil put it, that’s a sign that “anger at do-nothing Dems really has gone completely mainstream in a way that seemed impossible three or four years ago”.

If history is any indication, that’s good. Democratic leaders only did things like enact social security, create Medicare, pass the Voting Rights Act and end the Vietnam war once they feared the electoral consequences of inaction. The same dynamic holds today: you can bet Democratic leaders will not fulfill their longtime promise to statutorily codify reproductive rights until and unless they feel the same kind of anger and pressure as their predecessors felt in their day.

That’s how democracy is supposed to work: we’re supposed to evaluate representatives not on their personalities or party affiliations, but on their records, and when they fail to deliver on their promises, those representatives are supposed to fear being denied their party’s nomination and thrown out of office by their own voters.

“Politicians respond to only one thing – power,” wrote Ta-Nehisi Coates back in 2011. “This is not the flaw of democracy, it’s the entire point. It’s the job of activists to generate, and apply, enough pressure on the system to affect change.”

That’s how the American right ultimately brought us to this horrible moment: They conditioned Republican voters to actually expect and demand things, and punish those who wouldn’t deliver.

That same attitude is what’s needed from Democratic voters now – not just rage aimed at the conservative ideologues turning back the clock, but also rage at the Democrats who control the government today. Those elected officials must be forced kicking and screaming – against their own desires – to actually produce. Not tomorrow. Now.

Of course, many of us have been saying this for decades – and have been berated and belittled for doing so. But at least for a moment, it finally feels like we’re no longer alone.

If that’s fleeting, we’re screwed. If it’s enduring, then there’s still a tiny glimmer of hope.

lol @ wall of words, didn't read... Old Joe broke you.

Thread
07-04-2022, 08:32 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/06/918/516/cartoon-050322-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

DMC
07-04-2022, 08:52 PM
But he is the GOP now. They don't find a different direction unless Trump exits the picture. His followers follow him, they don't make him fear them.

Which should tell you that the GOP does fear their base, since the base left them for Trump.

benefactor
07-04-2022, 09:07 PM
Which should tell you that the GOP does fear their base, since the base left them for Trump.
They don't...they fear Trumps control over them...which is why I said they don't find a different direction until Trump exits the picture. They aren't scared of the people themselves, they are scared of what direction Trump will lead them to next.

Thread
07-04-2022, 10:15 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/03/918/516/CARTOON-3-28-22.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

ElNono
07-04-2022, 11:38 PM
and this

1543409762867494912

lmao, ouch

1543647453483831297

Thread
07-05-2022, 12:26 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/cartoon-051722-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

SnakeBoy
07-05-2022, 12:55 AM
lmao, ouch

1543647453483831297

lol she's proving his point

ElNono
07-05-2022, 01:07 AM
lol she's proving his point

lol no, she isn't.

But Jeff seems to be having a hard time lately, tbh, so we'll give him a pass.

I mean, who wouldn't after losing $59 billion in 6 months, about 1/3 of his net worth... c'est la vie...

daboom1
07-05-2022, 01:24 AM
lol she's proving his point

:lol

ElNono
07-05-2022, 01:42 AM
beep boop

daboom1
07-05-2022, 06:06 AM
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544270868909416448?t


https://a4.pbase.com/g9/72/325172/3/164644283.I56wmpa0.jpg

DMC
07-05-2022, 08:22 AM
She thought she was a big shot. She fucked around and found out. What kind of fuckstick would risk taking drugs to Russia?

DMC
07-05-2022, 08:25 AM
They don't...they fear Trumps control over them...which is why I said they don't find a different direction until Trump exits the picture. They aren't scared of the people themselves, they are scared of what direction Trump will lead them to next.

Trump controls the base, he doesn't control them. They choose to appear to be in agreement with Trump to appease the voters.

Thread
07-05-2022, 09:09 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/cartoon-051022-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Thread
07-05-2022, 09:09 AM
She thought she was a big shot. She fucked around and found out. What kind of fuckstick would risk taking drugs to Russia?

Yep, yep.

Winehole23
07-05-2022, 11:32 AM
Brandon's fault when prices go up, Brandon's fault when they go down.

Why do they hate capitalism?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/05/oil-...ars-mount.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/05/oil-tumbles-more-than-8percent-breaks-below-100-as-recession-fears-mount.html)

Blake
07-05-2022, 11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544270868909416448?t


https://a4.pbase.com/g9/72/325172/3/164644283.I56wmpa0.jpg

Why is this in the Biden thread? Do you think Trump would have got her out?

Thread
07-05-2022, 11:59 AM
Why is this in the Biden thread? Do you think Trump would have got her out?

No. She's un-American, or, at least she was until she fucked around in Russia. Now, NOW she wants back to being an American full fuckin' time.

Biden can't do anything. This is up to Putin...And if I were him, I'd tell us..."Go-pound-salt."

MultiTroll
07-05-2022, 02:19 PM
Joey B doing plenty of oil production growth per this article.
North America Crude Oil Steps Up With More Supply (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/north-america-crude-oil-steps-up-with-more-supply/ar-AAZdbG4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=48eb20160ece4e3b9da592ded9d57069)

Whiney insurrectionists gonna hate.

Thread
07-05-2022, 02:51 PM
Joey B doing plenty of oil production growth per this article.
North America Crude Oil Steps Up With More Supply (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/north-america-crude-oil-steps-up-with-more-supply/ar-AAZdbG4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=48eb20160ece4e3b9da592ded9d57069)

Whiney insurrectionists gonna hate.

https://a4.pbase.com/g9/72/325172/3/164644283.I56wmpa0.jpg

boutons_deux
07-05-2022, 07:41 PM
WTF is wrong with Biden and Dems?

nominating a AEI guy to SS board, a guy who supports privatization of SS

nominating an anti-abortion Fed judge FOR LIFE in return for two US Attys for 2 YEARS (will be fired in Jan 2025)

spurraider21
07-05-2022, 10:05 PM
1544499932354076673

spurraider21
07-05-2022, 10:06 PM
:worthy:

koriwhat
07-05-2022, 10:42 PM
:worthy:

What's new? You're always on your knees.

spurraider21
07-05-2022, 10:43 PM
What's new? You're always on your knees.
How else would one give it to your mom doggy style?

koriwhat
07-05-2022, 10:45 PM
How else would one give it to your mom doggy style?

Lmao You pretending to be straight is even funnier than my sarcastic joke to you a bit ago. Sure man, I believe you like women; old women to boot. :lmao

daboom1
07-05-2022, 10:51 PM
Joey B doing plenty of oil production growth per this article.
North America Crude Oil Steps Up With More Supply (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/north-america-crude-oil-steps-up-with-more-supply/ar-AAZdbG4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=48eb20160ece4e3b9da592ded9d57069)

Whiney insurrectionists gonna hate.

https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544505161900380160?t

Thread
07-05-2022, 10:53 PM
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544505161900380160?t


boom!!!

ChumpDumper
07-05-2022, 11:01 PM
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544505161900380160?t

Couldn't refine anymore if it was given to them.

SnakeBoy
07-05-2022, 11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1544505161900380160?t

New York (CNN Business) The Biden administration plans to seek bids this fall to buy 60 million barrels of crude oil as the first step in a years-long process aimed at replenishing America's emergency oil reserve, an Energy Department official told CNN.

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 02:03 AM
More bad news for Brandon

1544348544823431169

ElNono
07-06-2022, 02:21 AM
:worthy:

1544501076589588481

daboom1
07-06-2022, 03:40 AM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1544453581255868416?t

Luka Doncic
07-06-2022, 07:05 AM
1544240522549755905
1544240883981328384
1544241436077572096
1544241704831787009
1544241918787346434
1544242141123289088
1544242460330790915
1544242819522789376
1544243019708354563
1544243256384430081
1544243557795495936
1544243935652061185
1544244501350436864

DMC
07-06-2022, 08:45 AM
No one will read all that. Boiled down, Sue isn't online under a pseudonym retweeting political trash.

Luka Doncic
07-06-2022, 09:47 AM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OrneryAlertCatfish-size_restricted.gif

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 10:10 AM
Speculative bubble? Recession fears?

Both?

1544616834607054848

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 10:17 AM
RUNAWAY INFLATION

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW_SK8DXwAUqgjH?format=jpg&name=small

CosmicCowboy
07-06-2022, 10:22 AM
RUNAWAY INFLATION

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW_SK8DXwAUqgjH?format=jpg&name=small

$4.78 good now?

Luka Doncic
07-06-2022, 10:40 AM
That chart is incredibly misleading tbh :lol only a 25 cent drop but it looks like it took a nosedive to 1.50 a gallon.

CosmicCowboy
07-06-2022, 11:10 AM
That chart is incredibly misleading tbh :lol only a 25 cent drop but it looks like it took a nosedive to 1.50 a gallon.

Typical Whinehole

Blake
07-06-2022, 11:17 AM
Sue will go to [insert city name] First Baptist Church on Sunday and thank God for all the good guys with guns sitting next to her in the pews

SnakeBoy
07-06-2022, 11:23 AM
That chart is incredibly misleading tbh :lol only a 25 cent drop but it looks like it took a nosedive to 1.50 a gallon.

It's not as bad as last year

1466515299407216640

SnakeBoy
07-06-2022, 11:27 AM
Speculative bubble? Recession fears?

Both?

1544616834607054848

https://menafn.com/1104485896/US-dollar-index-jumps-to-its-peak-since-Dec-2002

Thread
07-06-2022, 11:35 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

CosmicCowboy
07-06-2022, 11:55 AM
https://menafn.com/1104485896/US-dollar-index-jumps-to-its-peak-since-Dec-2002

industrial commodities have crashing too...copper, aluminum, etc. That's a major recession indicator.
ts

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 11:57 AM
That chart is incredibly misleading tbh :lol only a 25 cent drop but it looks like it took a nosedive to 1.50 a gallon.the chart is clearly marked, nothing misleading there to those who use their powers of reading.

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:03 PM
Ritholz reading the tea leaves.

YoY housing inventories are up and rents are dropping in erstwhile hot real estate markets.

Time for the narrative to pivot from RUNAWAY INFLATION to RECESSION..


Broadly speaking, we see these 6 large categories as showing encouraging price moderation:


1. Commodity prices: Lumber, Copper, other undustrial metals off substantiually from their peaks; even Energy is off its highs.

2. Inventory: Target, Walmart and other retailers have accumulated lots of stuff; too much stuff that will lead to discounts in the near future;

3. Home Prices: Bidding wars are falling, sales over ask dropping. Homes are staying on the market longer, and more are offering price redcutions. More supply is coming as well.

4. Wages: An increasing number of layoffs, especially in the hottest sectors (Tech, warehouses, crypto, AI and autonomyous driving) suggests a reduced ability to demand higher wages.

5. Automobiles: Production is rising, and inventory of new cars is improving.

6. Travel: Airline ticket prices have been falling during June, see also here (https://media.hopper.com/research/hopper-research-dashboard-beta)



Apollo Group’s Torsten Slok notes:

“The bottom line is that inflation may stay elevated for another month or two, but given the trends listed above, the probability is rising that inflation going into the second half of this year could come down faster than the market currently expects.”

I concur. The official economic data is released on a lag, and we are likely already a month or two past peak inflation.
https://ritholtz.com/2022/06/revisiting-peak-inflation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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07-06-2022, 12:04 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-042022.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:09 PM
$4.78 good now?historically we've seen much lower prices at the pump at current per bbl oil prices, recent underinvestment in refining capacity is a fairly inelastic constraint. what do you think Joe Biden should do about that?

SpursforSix
07-06-2022, 12:12 PM
the chart is clearly marked, nothing misleading there to those who use their powers of reading.

LMAO. OK. Yeah...the data is real. What was your point in posting a one month chart?

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:13 PM
LMAO. OK. Yeah...the data is real. What was your point in posting a one month chart?recent trend is down

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:15 PM
A lot of talk in here is totally untethered to facts, nothing wrong with recent data points imho

SnakeBoy
07-06-2022, 12:17 PM
industrial commodities have crashing too...copper, aluminum, etc. That's a major recession indicator.
ts

Well we're probably already in a recession. I was just pointing out the strengthening dollar because all commodities generally have an inverse relationship between the value of the dollar and commodity price.

SpursforSix
07-06-2022, 12:20 PM
recent trend is down

Yes it is. I wonder if you'll eventually post a one week chart. You're as dishonest as a stock broker. Just pick your time frame and sell your idea.

CosmicCowboy
07-06-2022, 12:24 PM
Whinehole celebrating $4.78 gas. :lol

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:25 PM
Yes it is. I wonder if you'll eventually post a one week chart. You're as dishonest as a stock broker. Just pick your time frame and sell your idea.I didn't make any predictions, that's just your imagination running away with itself.

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:26 PM
Whinehole celebrating $4.78 gas. :lolwhat do you think Joe should do about the refining bottleneck?

ChumpDumper
07-06-2022, 12:27 PM
You guys weren't happy to see gas prices go down instead of up?

:lol politics really did break you

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:28 PM
You guys weren't happy to see gas prices go down instead of up?

:lol politics really did break youred asses, tbh

why do they hate capitalism?

SpursforSix
07-06-2022, 12:36 PM
I didn't make any predictions, that's just your imagination running away with itself.

I didn't say you did. I'm sure I can find a minute chart on oil that shows an upward trend. But you responded to "Runaway Inflation" by posting a one month chart of gas prices.
Did you have a particular point? If you did we can discuss it. Do you think we've got inflation under control? Without a recession? And by the way, I don't think this on on Biden. It just it what it is.

ChumpDumper
07-06-2022, 12:37 PM
red asses, tbh

why do they hate capitalism?I mean they their overall shtick is to pretend they are too rich to be affected by anything that happens in the world but they're always so, so angry about things like gas prices no matter what as long as their manhood is still out of office.

MultiTroll
07-06-2022, 12:39 PM
Ritholz reading the tea leaves.

YoY housing inventories are up and rents are dropping in erstwhile hot real estate markets.

Time for the narrative to pivot from RUNAWAY
If one wants to flip their vehicles this might be top of the bubble time.

CC did you get an F150 electric?

SnakeBoy
07-06-2022, 12:39 PM
what do you think Joe should do about the refining bottleneck?

Fix it

CosmicCowboy
07-06-2022, 12:40 PM
historically we've seen much lower prices at the pump at current per bbl oil prices, recent underinvestment in refining capacity is a fairly inelastic constraint. what do you think Joe Biden should do about that?

under invested or impossibly over regulated? The last major refinery was built in 1977.


Today, national and state legislation require refineries to meet stringent air and water cleanliness standards. In fact, oil companies in the U.S. perceive obtaining a permit to build a modern refinery to be so difficult and costly that no new refineries were built

DMC
07-06-2022, 12:40 PM
Whinehole celebrating $4.78 gas. :lol

He rides a bicycle :lol

SpursforSix
07-06-2022, 12:46 PM
I mean they their overall shtick is to pretend they are too rich to be affected by anything that happens in the world but they're always so, so angry about things like gas prices no matter what as long as their manhood is still out of office.

Who is, "they"? Because that sure the fuck doesn't describe me. Trump sucked. Biden sucks also. Gas prices suck. It's not Biden's fault but to post a one month chart to refute the inflation problem is ridiculous. Awesome, we have some relief. I'm happy about it. But I think the economy (for normal people) is going to get worse.

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 12:48 PM
I didn't say you did. I'm sure I can find a minute chart on oil that shows an upward trend. But you responded to "Runaway Inflation" by posting a one month chart of gas prices.
Did you have a particular point? If you did we can discuss it. Do you think we've got inflation under control? Without a recession? And by the way, I don't think this on on Biden. It just it what it is.Presidents get the blame and the credit for macro trends they do not control, and predictions are more or less a fools game.

That said, it seems doubtful supply chain problems will be solved promptly, ditto with refining margins and sanctions-induced trade imbalances. Also seems clear the Fed has its thumb -- counterproductively, I think -- on the monetary spigot to cause a recession. GDP was essentially flat in the last quarter, so there's an argument to be had that we were already headed that way.

What will happen? Who knows?

ChumpDumper
07-06-2022, 12:48 PM
Who is, "they"? Because that sure the fuck doesn't describe me. Trump sucked. Biden sucks also. Gas prices suck. It's not Biden's fault but to post a one month chart to refute the inflation problem is ridiculous. Awesome, we have some relief. I'm happy about it. But I think the economy (for normal people) is going to get worse.I'm talking about our resident plutocrats.

SpursforSix
07-06-2022, 12:57 PM
Presidents get the blame and the credit for macro trends they do not control, and predictions are more or less a fools game.



Agree with this. On the one hand, four years is too short for a president to really see an impact (especially in the economy). But six years could be a disaster on a global relations scale with a bad Commander in Chief.
I suppose the reality is that everything is way more complex than it was 40 years ago. And it's not getting any simpler. Sometimes, you're just not going to be able to solve or alleviate all of the problems.

SnakeBoy
07-06-2022, 01:18 PM
I'm talking about our resident plutocrats.

El Nono?

ElNono
07-06-2022, 01:23 PM
Whinehole celebrating $4.78 gas. :lol

Gas needs to stay at $6, tbh

ElNono
07-06-2022, 01:24 PM
El Nono?

Don't hate da playa, hate da game

DMC
07-06-2022, 01:24 PM
Typical Whinehole

Wall of Shamer

DMC
07-06-2022, 01:24 PM
Don't hate da playa, hate da game

Love the playa, and the cerveza.

ElNono
07-06-2022, 01:26 PM
Love the playa, and the cerveza.

that too

MultiTroll
07-06-2022, 01:33 PM
Refinerys closed on purpose so BigOil can keep jacking up prices.
Artificial shortage.
Chevron and Texaco were caught red handed when internal documents leaked years ago.

MultiTroll
07-06-2022, 01:33 PM
More from those sweet oil co's

Chevron in Ecuador | Texaco Ordered Destruction of Oil Spill Documents (https://chevroninecuador.org/news-and-multimedia/2008/1015-texaco-ordered-destruction-of-oil-spill-documents)

ChumpDumper
07-06-2022, 01:59 PM
El Nono?He's not angry all the time.

Unlike you.

Thread
07-06-2022, 03:33 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-042022.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

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07-06-2022, 07:06 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/918/516/Tsunami-Warning-07.06.22-1.png?ve=1&tl=1

MultiTroll
07-06-2022, 09:11 PM
Joey B showing divercity and fairness to all types of peoples.

A satisfied citizen expresses appreciation:

Brittney Griner's wife expresses gratitude, hope after phone call with President Joe Biden (espn.com) (https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/34203347/brittney-griner-wife-expresses-gratitude-hope-phone-call-president-joe-biden)

daboom1
07-06-2022, 09:20 PM
https://twitter.com/andre_mihaescu/status/1544782995189600260?t

This motherfucker :lol

Blake
07-06-2022, 09:30 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Gkm2Yhbg84/sddefault.jpg

ElNono
07-06-2022, 09:53 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7Gkm2Yhbg84/sddefault.jpg

This motherfucker :lol

Winehole23
07-06-2022, 10:05 PM
under invested or impossibly over regulated? The last major refinery was built in 1977.too bad, maybe they should change their business model.

Thread
07-06-2022, 10:13 PM
https://twitter.com/andre_mihaescu/status/1544782995189600260?t

This motherfucker :lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

daboom1
07-07-2022, 02:47 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

MultiTroll
07-07-2022, 08:05 AM
Shell just reaped an extra $1 billion from oil refining in 3 months as gas prices at the pump skyrocketed (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/shell-just-reaped-an-extra-1-billion-from-oil-refining-in-3-months-as-gas-prices-at-the-pump-skyrocketed/ar-AAZjB0t?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=21f72d992e8145f69fa0e10446618f9f)

Joey B correctly naming the culprit.

Winehole23
07-07-2022, 09:47 AM
Gas needs to stay at $6, tbh
.

French energy executives, including the chief executive of Total (https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/edf-engie-total-ceos-urge-energy-savings-to-prepare-for-winter-1.1784099), one of the world’s largest oil companies, recently sent an open letter for the French people to “collectively take action on energy demand by reducing our consumption.”


Europe depends on natural gas especially for much of its heat and electricity that — although this is likely changing — greatly comes from Russia. The chief executive officer of Shell, which is based in London, said earlier this week that a “turbulent period in the world energy market is coming as Europe tries to replace natural gas that will likely be cut off from Russia.”

In other words, one way to lower energy prices and aid in the Ukraine war effort is to slow demand. Conservation can come in a variety of forms: driving less, lower temperatures in buildings in the winter, carpooling, using public transportation, replacing gas furnaces or working from home. In other words, asking consumers — who have been putting incredible strain on energy resources through surging demand — to use less.
https://www.grid.news/story/economy/2022/07/01/theres-a-solution-to-high-gas-prices-americans-will-hate-it/

Thread
07-07-2022, 11:45 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/918/516/toon.png?ve=1&tl=1

SnakeBoy
07-07-2022, 01:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WA3b5jA.jpeg

SpursforSix
07-07-2022, 01:28 PM
This whole argument is bullshit. I get that many are wanting to crush BigOil because of current perceived profit margins. They aren't gouging anymore than BigTech or BigPharma. Or BigAg or BigAnything.

SnakeBoy
07-07-2022, 01:56 PM
Shell just reaped an extra $1 billion from oil refining in 3 months as gas prices at the pump skyrocketed (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/shell-just-reaped-an-extra-1-billion-from-oil-refining-in-3-months-as-gas-prices-at-the-pump-skyrocketed/ar-AAZjB0t?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=21f72d992e8145f69fa0e10446618f9f)

Joey B correctly naming the culprit.

Good for Shell :tu

If you don't like it buy an EV

Winehole23
07-07-2022, 02:34 PM
This whole argument is bullshit. I get that many are wanting to crush BigOil because of current perceived profit margins. They aren't gouging anymore than BigTech or BigPharma. Or BigAg or BigAnything.thanks for admitting greedy companies are driving inflation too

CosmicCowboy
07-07-2022, 02:39 PM
Shell also lost 5 billion leaving Russia. Greedy bastards.

ElNono
07-07-2022, 02:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WA3b5jA.jpeg

:lol

ElNono
07-07-2022, 02:50 PM
Shell also lost 5 billion leaving Russia. Greedy bastards.

America will make up the difference... part of the calculation...

CosmicCowboy
07-07-2022, 02:59 PM
America will make up the difference... part of the calculation...

When you are that big of a corporation a billion one way or another is not that big of a deal. Shell has also invested a lot more than a billion in renewables.

ElNono
07-07-2022, 03:06 PM
When you are that big of a corporation a billion one way or another is not that big of a deal. Shell has also invested a lot more than a billion in renewables.

Yep, plus they know where their bread gets buttered in the long run

daboom1
07-07-2022, 03:31 PM
Good for Shell :tu

If you don't like it buy an EV

"Or take the bus"

"Eat lentiles"

MultiTroll
07-07-2022, 03:34 PM
Good for Shell :tu

If you don't like it buy an EV
Already have.

Likewise if you don't like the price of gas STFU and quit fabrication it's Joes fault.
Suck Shell cock and swallow, keep us out of it.

SnakeBoy
07-07-2022, 04:37 PM
1545144022326460416

ElNono
07-07-2022, 04:48 PM
Already have.

Likewise if you don't like the price of gas STFU and quit fabrication it's Joes fault.
Suck Shell cock and swallow, keep us out of it.

Gotheeeeeeeem

SpursforSix
07-07-2022, 10:28 PM
thanks for admitting greedy companies are driving inflation too

I’ve never pretended otherwise.

DarrinS
07-07-2022, 11:19 PM
Top 3 people in our government can't form cogent sentences. Two because they are senile; and the other is just a poorly programmed word salad chat bot.

At least no mean tweets.

ElNono
07-07-2022, 11:22 PM
Top 3 people in our government can't form cogent sentences. Two because they are senile; and the other is just a poorly programmed word salad chat bot.

At least no mean tweets.

I'll give you communication is not much of an upgrade from the previous administration...

MultiTroll
07-07-2022, 11:34 PM
Shell also lost 5 billion leaving Russia. Greedy bastards.
Calculated because they knew Pootin would have stolen way more then that from Shell?

Thread
07-07-2022, 11:38 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/222cartoon-5.5.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

daboom1
07-08-2022, 03:11 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1545205487515361280?t

ElNono
07-08-2022, 04:57 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1545205487515361280?t

:tu

ElNono
07-08-2022, 04:58 AM
Must be making the rounds in the Trumptard mailing lists... Qhris and TSA right on top of this...

Winehole23
07-08-2022, 08:45 AM
Right wing hive mind

Winehole23
07-08-2022, 08:58 AM
New jobs beat forecast, unemployment flat.

Bolshevik Brandon continues to wreck the USA

1545403884193169409

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07-08-2022, 09:29 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/cartoon-051022-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

hater
07-08-2022, 10:00 AM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/cartoon-051022-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

:lol

daboom1
07-08-2022, 11:47 AM
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1545441562548658181?t

*Biden exit stage left
*wipe your butt

:lol

daboom1
07-08-2022, 11:55 AM
https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1545444780108353536?t

TSA
07-08-2022, 12:07 PM
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1545441562548658181?t

*Biden exit stage left
*wipe your butt

:lol
:rollin

pgardn
07-08-2022, 12:26 PM
Anyone else in 2020.
By a landslide!

I like Joe wandering off better than Trump turning every subject into something about how popular he is.
Yep. It was this bad. The orange man lost to a guy ready to move in with his son. Must be tough.
But thats how bad Trump was. Worst president of all time and getting worse every day we find out new info.

When your kids ask you who you voted for in 20 years be sure to tell them.

ElNono
07-08-2022, 12:32 PM
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1545441562548658181?t

*Biden exit stage left
*wipe your butt

:lol


https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1545444780108353536?t

This guy beat Dennison in a landslide :rollin

Spurminator
07-08-2022, 12:36 PM
This guy beat Dennison in a landslide :rollin

They really need to make a Weekend at Bernie's 3 loosely based on the 2020 Presidential Election, where Bernie somehow wins his party's primary and then beats the hothead sitting president (to the dismay of his cartoonish cult following.)

Winehole23
07-08-2022, 12:45 PM
American carnage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXJjkcFWIAAomgb?format=jpg&name=medium

Thread
07-08-2022, 01:19 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/918/516/cartoon-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

DarrinS
07-08-2022, 02:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGMt6cruNzI

SnakeBoy
07-08-2022, 03:13 PM
American carnage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXJjkcFWIAAomgb?format=jpg&name=medium

Dude that's a terrible chart for Biden

daboom1
07-08-2022, 03:46 PM
https://twitter.com/MadLiberals/status/1545472068380229632?t

Blake
07-08-2022, 03:52 PM
"He [Trump] told crowds on 4 July the Continental Army "took over the airports" during the American Revolutionary War in the 1770s.

Observers quickly pointed out there was no air travel in 18th Century America.

Explaining away the slip-up on Friday, Mr Trump also said it was hard to read the teleprompter in the rain."

https://www.bbc.com/news/48885319

DMX7
07-08-2022, 03:57 PM
"He [Trump] told crowds on 4 July the Continental Army "took over the airports" during the American Revolutionary War in the 1770s.

Observers quickly pointed out there was no air travel in 18th Century America.

Explaining away the slip-up on Friday, Mr Trump also said it was hard to read the teleprompter in the rain."

https://www.bbc.com/news/48885319

It is hard to read the teleprompter in the rain but it's not hard to know that there were no airport in the 1770s.

Of course Trump didn't seem to know that Frederick Douglass died over 100 years ago either.

daboom1
07-08-2022, 04:02 PM
Love the whataboutery :lol

daboom1
07-08-2022, 04:02 PM
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1545453359850819589?t

hater
07-08-2022, 04:03 PM
https://twitter.com/MadLiberals/status/1545472068380229632?t

:lmao :lmao

Thought it was fake

No


Its real :lmao

Fuck. :lol

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1545441526133788673

hater
07-08-2022, 04:06 PM
Joe Burgundy :lmao

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1545441526133788673

hater
07-08-2022, 04:08 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1545451534611320836

daboom1
07-08-2022, 04:11 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1545451534611320836

She's getting ratio'd to Hell :lol

Blake
07-08-2022, 04:16 PM
Love the whataboutery :lol

I'm fine with saying they both fucked up. You and the other Trumptard minions aren't.

It's hilarious and sad at the same time.