Another school shooting?

[Blake]

One can be afraid of a gun and put oneself between a gunman and a child.

DMC is just stupid.

No no there's one possible answer when a teacher does that

[Blake]

Still no point mentioned.

I didn't really have a point to make. I gave a possible answer to the question. You really have no idea just how much you suck at reading

[Winehole23]

Uvalde cops are harrassing Anjeli Gomez

https://foxsanantonio.com/newsletter-daily/mother-speaks-about-saving-her-children-from-uvalde-gunman

[DMC]

I didn't really have a point to make.

Exactly, so cuck up and shut the fuck up.

[DMC]

No no there's one possible answer when a teacher does that

:lmao CD moved an unloaded relic of a gun out of his house because he was afraid of it. Now wants to give lessons on guns.

[Blake]

Exactly, so cuck up and shut the fuck up.

A poster asked a question, I gave an answer. This is how open forums work. You're a fat try hard retard.

[Blake]

:lmao CD moved an unloaded relic of a gun out of his house because he was afraid of it. Now wants to give lessons on guns.

Oh look who has ESP now

[DMC]

Oh look who has ESP now

He said so

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao CD moved an unloaded relic of a gun out of his house because he was afraid of it. Now wants to give lessons on guns.
:lmao still obsessed with me

I'd be glad to update your Rolodex for you, but you're too much of a pussy to face the man who proved you aren't as smart as you want us to believe.

[ChumpDumper]

He said so

:lmao

:lmao no

The right always has to lie.

Always.

[Winehole23]

Such a terrible gossip...

[Blake]

Oh look who has ESP now


He said so

:lmao


:lmao no

The right always has to lie.

Always.

:lmao

[DMC]

He's going to lie about it and he's notorious for deleting posts.

[Blake]

Or you're the one lying about it which you are notorious for here

[ChumpDumper]

He's going to lie about it and he's notorious for deleting posts.

You're going to hide from me but continue to post about me and you're notorious for being obsessed with men.

You and TSA tried to fill in the blanks like you always do and were wrong like you always are.

Just like you were wrong with my identity you tried to doxx.

:lmao "David"

[DMC]

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:lol

[Winehole23]

^^^Pavlov's dog, tbh

[Blake]

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:lol

:lol terrified per DMC logic

[DMC]

Or you're the one lying about it which you are notorious for here

You wouldn't know a liar if she was sleeping next to you.

[DMC]

I got the whole crew riled up, even fake news faggot WH is shitting himself. :lol

[Blake]

You wouldn't know a liar if she was sleeping next to you.

I know you're a liar. It's right here.

[Blake]

I got the whole crew riled up, even fake news faggot WH is shitting himself. :lol

Liar

[DMC]

I know you're a liar. It's right here.


Liar

:lol yeah, you're not riled at all

[Blake]

:lol yeah, you're not riled at all

:lol honest broker trying to rile Rolodex enemies up with lies

[DMC]

:lol honest broker trying to rile Rolodex enemies up with lies

:lmao you're totally shook. Cry harder.

[Blake]

:lmao you're totally shook. Cry harder.

:lol you have to lie to win the internets which is an extremely important thing in your life. That's gotta suck for you.

[Winehole23]

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[DMC]

:lol you have to lie to win the internets which is an extremely important thing in your life. That's gotta suck for you.

You returning over and over shows how little you're concerned about it :lol

[Blake]

You returning over and over shows how little you're concerned about it :lol

You're in a thread I started. I'm concerned about the topic. You're just an lol sideshow

[DMC]

You're in a thread I started. I'm concerned about the topic. You're just an lol sideshow

"muh thread"

Thread ownership real now.

[Blake]

"muh thread"

Thread ownership real now.

Thread topic has been real from the get go. You're here to NBA forum the thread because it's not going your way.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC caught stalking

[DMC]

Fart and turd just as I said.

[Blake]

Not here for the topic, here to do NBA forum. Just as I said.

[koriwhat]

"muh thread"

Thread ownership real now.

:lmao :tu

[Winehole23]

link to the ALERRT report:

https://news.sky.com/story/texas-school-shooting-instructor-who-teaches-police-to-deal-with-gunmen-says-uvalde-officers-showed-failings-in-leadership-and-mindset-12623310

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[Winehole23]

Whoopsie, still looking for the right link...

[baseline bum]

Uvalde Police acting like real hardasses to a good citizen after being scared bitches when little kids were being murdered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4899bF5rM

[Thread]

Uvalde Police acting like real hardasses to a good citizen after being scared bitches when little kids were being murdered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4899bF5rM

Nobody wants to get shot cept on the TV and in the movies.

[baseline bum]

Nobody wants to get shot cept on the TV and in the movies.

That mother wasn't scared of going to get her kids out without body armor, shields, and AR-15s. Pussy ass Uvalde cops. What the fuck is the point of even paying them?

[Thread]

That mother wasn't scared of going to get her kids out without body armor, shields, and AR-15s. Pussy ass Uvalde cops. What the fuck is the point of even paying them?

Why do you suppose that is, bum? I'll tell ya...shared blood.

[baseline bum]

Why do you suppose that is, bum? I'll tell ya...shared blood.

And she's not a scared pussy like all the Uvalde cops were.

[Thread]

And she's not a scared pussy like all the Uvalde cops were.

It wasn't the cops' shared blood. World of difference.

Just like the cop who was outside, drew a bead on the shooter and instead of pulling the trigger called his supervisor and the shooter got inside the school in the interim. Why did he do that instead of just shooting? I'll tell ya why...because if he shoots and he's at fault they'll roast him over a fire all the days of his life. "Oh, why did you shoot?" Oh, why didn't you call in first?" "Oh, you should not have done that, you're on administrative leave...unpaid administrative leave, starting right now."

I don't blame the guy, there is no upside at-that-moment in shooting in his estimation.

[Winehole23]

the various responsible agencies have formed a circular firing squad

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[Winehole23]

Don't they have each others' phone numbers?

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[Winehole23]

How many times has LE changed their story? DPS looking worse and worse, imo.

What are they covering up?

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[Trill Clinton]

Uvalde Police acting like real hardasses to a good citizen after being scared bitches when little kids were being murdered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4899bF5rM

Wow smh

[Winehole23]

Uvalde video drops

(Edited for public release, but the Austin American Statesman has the full 77 minute video)


Even after hearing at least four shots from the classrooms 45 minutes after police arrived, they waited.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/12/uvalde-school-shooting-surveillance-video/10032624002/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXftNFZXoAEp8vO?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Trill Clinton]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXftNFZXoAEp8vO?format=jpg&name=900x900


#backtheblue

[Winehole23]

#backtheblueeven when they stand around doing nothing while kids bleed out

[Winehole23]

“The screams of children have been edited out”

[HemisfairArena]

blacks kill more people in this country than cops do,,,that is fact.

[ElNono]

^^^ meltdown

[Isitjustme?]

blacks kill more people in this country than cops do,,,that is fact.

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2076649/uvalde-cop-looks-phone.jpg

[Isitjustme?]

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[TimDunkem]

7:13 of the 77 minute video - You can still hear the screams...

[Thread]

blacks kill more people in this country than cops do,,,that is fact.


HemisfairArena!!!

[Thread]

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Same as always= nobody wants to get shot cept on TV and in the movies.

[Trill Clinton]

blacks kill more people in this country than cops do,,,that is fact.

you white supremacists love to use the race card.

[Thread]

you white supremacists love to use the race card.

& you taught us everything we know, TC. You and Hussein...nobody baits & hustles race like Hussein Obama. & He taught Biden everything he knows on the subject.

[koriwhat]

blacks kill more people in this country than cops do,,,that is fact.

Although statistically speaking that stat has nothing to do with this thread.

[Winehole23]

1546985768006008832Important context, if accurate.

His wife was Eva Mireles -- a Robb Elementary teacher and Ruben Ruiz's wife -- who called him after she had been shot.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXkhyVNWQAICGEl?format=jpg&name=large

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[DMC]

Instead of bias training for cops, get them courage training so they don't tacticool themselves into a break room and take down a donut machine.

[boutons_deux]

Catholic billo O'Reilly sez massacres of Americans is the price of freedom

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

The report also reveals for the first time that the overwhelming majority of responders were federal and state law enforcement: 149 were U.S. Border Patrol, and 91 were state police — whose responsibilities (https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/about-dps/dps-responsibilities#:~:text=The%20Department%20has%20 the%20additional,Texas%20Crime%20Information%20Cen ter) include responding to “mass attacks in public places.” There were 25 Uvalde police officers and 16 sheriff’s deputies. Arredondo’s school police force accounted for five of the officers on the scene. The rest of the force was made up of neighboring county law enforcement, U.S. Marshals, and federal Drug Enforcement Agency officers.

The investigators said that in the absence of a strong incident commander, another officer could have — and should have — stepped up to the task.

“These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy,” the report said. “Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies — many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police — quickly arrived on the scene.”

The other responders “could have helped to address the unfolding chaos.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/17/law-enforcement-failure-uvalde-shooting-investigation/

[Winehole23]

no wonder DPS was so eager to throw five Uvalde cops under the bus.

[Thread]

1548736098209234947


https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/17/law-enforcement-failure-uvalde-shooting-investigation/


no wonder DPS was so eager to throw five Uvalde cops under the bus.

Ya's still ain't linked Gov. Abbott, Winester.

Chop/chop!!!

[Winehole23]

LE issued a raft of self-serving misstatements (aka, lies) after the shooting. DPS fed a lie to ALERRT that it dutifully repeated just a few days ago.


In the days after the shooting, state officials unnecessarily undermined public trust in the ongoing investigations by making false statements about what had happened, the report states. The day after the massacre, a Uvalde Police Department lieutenant tasked with briefing Gov. Greg Abbott and other state leaders fainted just before the meeting began.


DPS Regional Director Victor Escalon took his place, relaying the secondhand accounts of police, as he had arrived at the school minutes before the shooting ended. Some of this information was inaccurate, which the committee said was the reason Abbott, in a news conference immediately following the briefing, presented a “false narrative” that the shooting lasted as few as 40 minutes thanks to “officers who rapidly devised a plan, stacked up and neutralized the attacker.”


Abbott also said that the gunman had been contronted by a school resource officer before entering the school. At a news conference the following day, a DPS official said the exterior door through which the gunman entered had been propped open. Both statements were false.


The committee criticized state officials for misleading the public.


“A complete and thorough investigation can take months or even years to confirm every detail, especially when this many law enforcement officers are involved,” the report states. “However, one would expect law enforcement during a briefing would be very careful to state what facts are verifiable, and which ones are not.”


The committee also refutes a significant revelation included in a report published last week by the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training (ALERRT) Center at Texas State University. That report stated that a Uvalde Police Department Officer with a rifle had an opportunity to shoot the gunman before he entered the school. However, when he asked a supervisor for permission to fire he never received a response and the gunman slipped into the school.


The committee noted that the ALERRT staff conducted no investigation on their own and relied entirely on information supplied by the Department of Public Safety. The committee concluded that the person the Uvalde officer saw was a coach who was ushering children inside, and found no evidence that any law enforcement personnel had a chance to engage the gunman outside the school.

[Thread]

LE issued a raft of self-serving misstatements (aka, lies) after the shooting. DPS fed a lie to ALERRT that it dutifully repeated just a few days ago.


Ya's still ain't linked Gov. Abbott, Winester.

tee, hee!!!

[boutons_deux]

400 Good Man with a gun

couldn't stop 1 Bad Man with a gun

😂

[Winehole23]

LE issued a raft of self-serving misstatements (aka, lies) after the shooting. DPS fed a lie to ALERRT that it dutifully repeated just a few days ago.The mayor of Uvalde and Uvalde ISD police, if the TX lege commission is right, have a legit beef against DPS.

[Winehole23]

This is a great example of what some of my friends in West Texas like to refer to as "the usual family goatfuck."

[Winehole23]

The report also reveals for the first time that the overwhelming majority of responders were federal and state law enforcement: 149 were U.S. Border Patrol, and 91 were state police — whose responsibilities (https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/about-dps/dps-responsibilities#:~:text=The%20Department%20has%20 the%20additional,Texas%20Crime%20Information%20Cen ter) include responding to “mass attacks in public places.” There were 25 Uvalde police officers and 16 sheriff’s deputies. Arredondo’s school police force accounted for five of the officers on the scene. The rest of the force was made up of neighboring county law enforcement, U.S. Marshals, and federal Drug Enforcement Agency officers.

The investigators said that in the absence of a strong incident commander, another officer could have — and should have — stepped up to the task.

“These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy,” the report said. “Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies — many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police — quickly arrived on the scene.”

The other responders “could have helped to address the unfolding chaos.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/17/law-enforcement-failure-uvalde-shooting-investigation/My understanding of the Incident Command System is that -- notwithstanding BORTAC's unilateral decision to supervene the incident commander -- is that in principle noone can supervene. In the case of paralysis, chaos or incompetence, more experienced commanders are supposed to ask the commander for permission to take over. It's astounding, given the massive presence of more experienced state and federal personnel, no one asked to do so.

Brandon's feds eventually took it on themselves and stopped the shooter.

[ElNono]

My understanding of the Incident Command System is that -- notwithstanding BORTAC's unilateral decision to supervene the incident commander -- is that in principle noone can supervene. In the case of paralysis, chaos or incompetence, more experienced commanders are supposed to ask the commander for permission to take over. It's astounding, given the massive presence of more experienced state and federal personnel, no one asked to do so.

Brandon's feds eventually took it on themselves and stopped the shooter.

They were busy moving immigrants into private property so they could arrest them...

[monosylab1k]

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[DMC]

This is a great example of what some of my friends in West Texas like to refer to as "the usual family goatfuck."

And they call you the family goat.

[Winehole23]

Arnulfo Reyes was shot twice and lost every student in his class.

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[Winehole23]

And they call you the family goat.I know that's meant to be cutting, but your sweet nothings are just kind of pitiful and sad.

[HemisfairArena]

this might be the one and only time everyone on here agrees the cops were piece of shit cowards,,,but no way can you say 400 of them. Were there 400 of them in that hall?,,,nope. You cant blame the cops that were out doing road blockages or other bullshit as being cowards because they werent given the chance to act in that hallway,,,the cops in that hallway should be fired and their names go down in infamy as the most cowardice people this nation has ever seen in its history,,,,second, tear that damn school down and make a monument on that exact spot for all the kids and teachers that lost their lives there,,,

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

<massacres of Americans and school kids> is the price of freedom -- Catholic Bill O'Reilly, after Nevada

[boutons_deux]

Sig Sauer about to unleash pure terror upon American streets

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1093559/story_image/220719-sig-rifle-police-tease-02_oudcuk.jfif?1658334649


The psychopaths who run the gun manufacturer Sig Sauer are about to release the MCX-SPEAR, which is the civilian version of the US Army’s new NGSW-R (Next Generation Squad Weapon-Rifle) onto American streets, as if the AR-15 wasn’t bad enough.

What is the NGSW-R? From Wiki:

The Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) program is a United States military (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces) program created in 2017 to replace the M4 carbine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Carbine) and M249 SAW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_SAW) light machine gun (both 5.56mm ammunition) and the 7.62mm M240 machine gun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun), with a common system with 6.8mm cartridges; and to develop small arms fire control systems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-control_system) for the new weapons.



Ok doesn’t sound terrible. What’s the problem exactly?

“This is a weapon that could defeat any body armor, any planned body armor that we know of in the future,” then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told the Army Times (https://www.armytimes.com/news/2021/10/11/the-armys-m4-m16-and-saw-replacement-is-on-its-way/) in 2019.

“This is a weapon that can go out at ranges that are unknown today.”


Oh. So what does that mean exactly?

“It’ll shoot through almost all of the bulletproof vests that are worn by law enforcement in the country right now,”
“This is a rare opportunity for passionate consumers to own a piece of history,” Cohen said.

“This first production run MCX-SPEAR, and all of the revolutionary technology behind its development, is being offered to the commercial market in a configuration that is a near match to our NGSW-R submission.”

One of the “elite” dealers estimated this week that

SIG Sauer had sent out between 2,500 and 5,000 of the weapons—and that they were an instant hit despite the price.

Thankfully the eye-watering $8000 price tag will probably keep it out of the hands of your average school shooter,

but an older shooter like Stephen Paddock could certainly afford such a weapon.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/20/2111505/-Sig-Sauer-about-to-unleash-pure-terror-upon-American-streets

[Winehole23]

This is just what's verifiable from newspaper reports

The Uvalde and Stoneman Douglas SROs didn't do shit against school shooters.

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[DarrinS]

Former sports star Bo Jackson covered all funeral expenses for the families of the victims of the Uvalde school massacre “so they would have one less thing to worry about as they grieved,” according to a statement from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

[ChumpDumper]

Former sports star Bo Jackson covered all funeral expenses for the families of the victims of the Uvalde school massacre “so they would have one less thing to worry about as they grieved,” according to a statement from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

So what?

[monosylab1k]

Former sports star Bo Jackson covered all funeral expenses for the families of the victims of the Uvalde school massacre “so they would have one less thing to worry about as they grieved,” according to a statement from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

Good on Bo Jackson :tu Why is Hot Wheels the one making a statement about this?

[baseline bum]

1549746619431751681

That's because Santa Anna wanted to take away our slaves. Nothing for the police to fight for at Robb Elementary though, not like they were going to get to seize property for auction like if it was a drug bust.

[DMC]

The heroes in the Alamo weren't even from Texas.

[DMC]

Sig Sauer about to unleash pure terror upon American streets

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1093559/story_image/220719-sig-rifle-police-tease-02_oudcuk.jfif?1658334649


The psychopaths who run the gun manufacturer Sig Sauer are about to release the MCX-SPEAR, which is the civilian version of the US Army’s new NGSW-R (Next Generation Squad Weapon-Rifle) onto American streets, as if the AR-15 wasn’t bad enough.

What is the NGSW-R? From Wiki:

The Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) program is a United States military (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces) program created in 2017 to replace the M4 carbine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Carbine) and M249 SAW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_SAW) light machine gun (both 5.56mm ammunition) and the 7.62mm M240 machine gun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun), with a common system with 6.8mm cartridges; and to develop small arms fire control systems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-control_system) for the new weapons.



Ok doesn’t sound terrible. What’s the problem exactly?

“This is a weapon that could defeat any body armor, any planned body armor that we know of in the future,” then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told the Army Times (https://www.armytimes.com/news/2021/10/11/the-armys-m4-m16-and-saw-replacement-is-on-its-way/) in 2019.

“This is a weapon that can go out at ranges that are unknown today.”


Oh. So what does that mean exactly?

“It’ll shoot through almost all of the bulletproof vests that are worn by law enforcement in the country right now,”
“This is a rare opportunity for passionate consumers to own a piece of history,” Cohen said.

“This first production run MCX-SPEAR, and all of the revolutionary technology behind its development, is being offered to the commercial market in a configuration that is a near match to our NGSW-R submission.”

One of the “elite” dealers estimated this week that

SIG Sauer had sent out between 2,500 and 5,000 of the weapons—and that they were an instant hit despite the price.

Thankfully the eye-watering $8000 price tag will probably keep it out of the hands of your average school shooter,

but an older shooter like Stephen Paddock could certainly afford such a weapon.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/20/2111505/-Sig-Sauer-about-to-unleash-pure-terror-upon-American-streets





:lmao

You couldn't buy 7.62 platforms before this !!!!! Look how evil it looks!!!!

https://danieldefense.com/media/catalog/product/cache/57787b00c9d0d809fcf82071201be77f/d/d/ddm4_v7_hunter_.6.8_l_kryptek_1.jpg

Look how menacing! Oh wait, same round different manufacturer and available from same company the Uvalde shooter bought his gun from, Daniels Defense, and about 2600.00 and has been around for a long time.

/world

[Blake]

The heroes in the Alamo weren't even from Texas.

Good point. Seems like most proud NRA gun toting Texans are really just huge pussies.

[DMC]

Good point. Seems like most proud NRA gun toting Texans are really just huge pussies.

Says the guy who did nothing about some strange man fucking his wife.

[Spurs Homer]

Upcoming weekend….


saturday?

or sunday?


for the NEXT shooting?

[Blake]

Says the guy who did nothing about some strange man fucking his wife.

Lol you'd commit murder?

[DMC]

Lol you'd commit murder?

:lol because any action at all other than crying to ST must be murder.

[Blake]

:lol because any action at all other than crying to ST must be murder.

My post was about toting a gun and that's where you went with it.

What exactly would you do?

Now watch as DMC squirms.

[DMC]

My post was about toting a gun and that's where you went with it.

What exactly would you do?

Now watch as DMC squirms.

You made the right call, Blake. Getting online and telling everyone you were cucked by a woman who you married, who was probably no more than a one night stand for anyone else, that's the best course of action. Any direct action on your part could be dangerous. Don't risk it.

[Blake]

Called it.

[Winehole23]

kid skulls

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYmqo3KXkAIXonY?format=png&name=900x900

[DMC]

kid skulls

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYmqo3KXkAIXonY?format=png&name=900x900

:tu

Only scary to twats like you

[Winehole23]

:tu

Only scary to twats like youit's grooming, tbh

[DMC]

it's grooming, tbh

The good kind, like hygiene.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC wants to shoot the people triggering him with simple questions.

[Winehole23]

DMC wants to shoot the people triggering him with simple questions.finally dispensed with his tedious both-sidesism, now making common cause with fascist MAGAs

probably refreshing for him too, the mask is off

[Spurminator]

:tu

Only scary to twats like you

Only necessary to own AR-15's and groom your children to want them if you're a scared twat who's looking over his shoulder every day for robbers and government agents.

Stay in your bunker if the world scares you this much.

[DMC]

Only necessary to own AR-15's and groom your children to want them if you're a scared twat who's looking over his shoulder every day for robbers and government agents.

Stay in your bunker if the world scares you this much.

Autogynephilic male creates hyperbolic narrative to salve his feminine side.

I don't have to stay anywhere. I am not the one shitting myself over the .22LR.

[DMC]

finally dispensed with his tedious both-sidesism, now making common cause with fascist MAGAs

probably refreshing for him too, the mask is off

You wish. Nothing you'd like better than to have a neatly packaged hate target. You struggle with objectivity and rationalism, opting instead to appease your doomsday phobia. It's not surprising your career choice was so limited. I cannot imagine you'd function well in a position that matters.

[Spurminator]

Autogynephilic male creates hyperbolic narrative to salve his feminine side.

I don't have to stay anywhere. I am not the one shitting myself over the .22LR.

:lol Consulting the Google thesaurus for a hyperbolic narrative to whine about hyperbolic narratives.

[DMC]

:lol Consulting the Google thesaurus for a hyperbolic narrative to whine about hyperbolic narratives.

Back back back back... gone! I hit a HR with that one.

[monosylab1k]

:lol the stink of desperation

[DMC]

Have you won yet. Keep posting till you feel happy about what you've accomplished.

[SnakeBoy]

Police have released footage of this fine work by a female officer

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[DMC]

Police have released footage of this fine work by a female officer

1552016781086232576

That wasp stung like shit :lol

[Blake]

Have you won yet. Keep posting till you feel happy about what you've accomplished.

Lol DMC's message board methods

[DMC]

Lol DMC's message board methods

She broke you

[Blake]

She broke you

I broke you

[Winehole23]

Punishing the principal for the massacre first. The House report deflected from 376 LEOs who shit their pants and did nothing during the shooting, and so far it's working.

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[DMC]

Hopefully this leads other jurisdictions to scramble to check all their safety measures. We already know this active shooter training regimen is bullshit if your 1st responders aren't there to do anything more than collect a check and take tacticool photos.

[benefactor]

Hopefully this leads other jurisdictions to scramble to check all their safety measures. We already know this active shooter training regimen is bullshit if your 1st responders aren't there to do anything more than collect a check and take tacticool photos.
My city is working on this now. More officers have already been approved and I hope the other things on the list are approved as well.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao he won’t even quote reply me anymore. I broke him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZmCJUSC6g

[Blake]

Hopefully this leads other jurisdictions to scramble to check all their safety measures. We already know this active shooter training regimen is bullshit if your 1st responders aren't there to do anything more than collect a check and take tacticool photos.

Right, we need more kids to bring their JR15s to school for added safety

[DMC]

Right, we need more kids to bring their JR15s to school for added safety

Because jurisdictions means kids.
You're really hurting. You keep shit posting to everything I say here. I hope you get it out of your system and become a productive adult soon.

[Blake]

Because jurisdictions means kids.
You're really hurting. You keep shit posting to everything I say here. I hope you get it out of your system and become a productive adult soon.

You're the one who shit posted the jpeg of kid guns. If you don't like me talking about it, either own it and justify it or admit it was stupid so I can just lol and not waste any more thread space on it

[DMC]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/513/984/ba6.gif

Winehole posted the jpeg, derp.

[benefactor]

My city is working on this now. More officers have already been approved and I hope the other things on the list are approved as well.
Forgot to include the link.
https://tylerpaper.com/news/tyler-isd-implements-more-safety-precautions-for-upcoming-school-year/article_90316cee-0c92-11ed-8f8d-4f84024856ec.html

[Blake]

Winehole posted the jpeg, derp.

Great, so he's the that posted it as a shit product and you're the one that gave it the thumbs up. You taking your gun and running home with your huge internet W?

[DMC]

Great, so he's the that posted it as a shit product and you're the one that gave it the thumbs up. You taking your gun and running home with your huge internet W?

So even when you're wrong you somehow think you need to posture like it didn't matter, yet you spend countless hours trying to think of clever retorts. Again, I hope whatever character flaw is eating at you gets resolved soon. Suicide is always an option.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC projecting all over that post.

Simply can't help himself -- even when he claims to be "ignoring" other men.

[DMC]

fart/turd :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao told ya that pedo can't stop

[baseline bum]

The heroes in the Alamo weren't even from Texas.

Yeah they were from Mexico and trying to liberate the slaves.

[Blake]

:lol DMC projecting all over that post.

Simply can't help himself -- even when he claims to be "ignoring" other men.

:lol the amount of richness in his posts. Almost every time

[DMC]

Yeah they were from Mexico and trying to liberate the slaves.

Too bad there wasn't a back door.

[ducks]

The reason they didn’t renew the 1994 Assault weapons ban, and let it expire in 2004, was because FBI stats revealed that the ban had little effect in reducing gun violence! Even to this day, FBI stats show that the overwhelming majority of gun homicides are committed using handguns! So, banning AR’s might make Dems feel like they’re doing something but truth is, it’ll have the same effect as last time and have very little effect on bringing down the number of gun homicides, because as previously stated, MOST gun homicides are committed using handguns NOT AR’s!!!

[DMC]

The reason they didn’t renew the 1994 Assault weapons ban, and let it expire in 2004, was because FBI stats revealed that the ban had little effect in reducing gun violence! Even to this day, FBI stats show that the overwhelming majority of gun homicides are committed using handguns! So, banning AR’s might make Dems feel like they’re doing something but truth is, it’ll have the same effect as last time and have very little effect on bringing down the number of gun homicides, because as previously stated, MOST gun homicides are committed using handguns NOT AR’s!!!

I said this years ago. Placebo legislation though, that's how elections are won. Most Americans are too lazy to learn anything, and get all their info from porch talk or Twitter, depending on whether you're in flyover country or in a Starbucks every morning.

[Blake]

".. In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles.

After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018.

Once the assault-weapons ban expired 10 years later in 2004, gun manufacturers quickly began production and sales rose..."

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting

Yeah, you guys are too lazy to figure it out and you really love your gunz

[DMC]

".. In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles.

After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018.

Once the assault-weapons ban expired 10 years later in 2004, gun manufacturers quickly began production and sales rose..."

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting

Yeah, you guys are too lazy to figure it out and you really love your gunz

Dems have the con. What are you waiting for?

I can find dozens of studies from Fact Check, from the federal government itself that says the ban had no measurable affect on gun related homicides.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf

Prior Research on the Ban’s Effects
To summarize the findings of our prior study, Congressional debate over the ban
triggered pre-ban speculative price increases of upwards of 50% for AWs during 1994, as
gun distributors, dealers, and collectors anticipated that the weapons would become
valuable collectors’ items. Analysis of national and local data on guns recovered by
police showed reductions in criminal use of AWs during 1995 and 1996, suggesting that
rising prices made the weapons less accessible to criminal users in the short-term
aftermath of the ban.
However, the speculative increase in AW prices also prompted a pre-ban boost in
AW production; in 1994, AW manufacturers produced more than twice their average
volume for the 1989-1993 period. The oversupply of grandfathered AWs, the availability
of the AW-type legal substitute models mentioned earlier, and the steady supply of other
non-banned semiautomatics appeared to have saturated the legal market, causing
advertised prices of AWs to fall to nearly pre-speculation levels by late 1995 or early
1996. This combination of excess supply and reduced prices implied that criminal use of
AWs might rise again for some period around 1996, as the large stock of AWs would
begin flowing from dealers’ and speculators’ gun cases to the secondary markets where
ineligible purchasers may obtain guns more easily.
We were not able to gather much specific data about market trends for LCMs.
However, available data did reveal speculative, pre-ban price increases for LCMs that
were comparable to those for AWs (prices for some LCMs continued to climb into 1996),
leading us to speculate – incorrectly, as this study will show (see Chapter 8) – that there
was some reduction in LCM use after the ban.

You can find studies to support whatever side you want to take on the issue, but you are clueless personally and have zero interest in learning anything about it. Instead you'll just find some confirmation bias article and post it like you've solved the problems of the world.

[Ef-man]

:lol the amount of richness in his posts. Almost every time

He is willfully clueless as he must have tired arguing with himself long ago. :lol

[DMC]

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014611/rs_500x282-140711130908-look_at_me.gif

[Winehole23]

Uvalde principal reinstated after performance review. The effort to scapegoat her just failed.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2022/07/29/principal-of-robb-elementary-school-in-uvalde-reinstated/

[DMC]

She'll be fired for some other reason as soon as the attention is off of her

[Blake]

Dems have the con. What are you waiting for?

I can find dozens of studies from Fact Check, from the federal government itself that says the ban had no measurable affect on gun related homicides.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf

Prior Research on the Ban’s Effects
To summarize the findings of our prior study, Congressional debate over the ban
triggered pre-ban speculative price increases of upwards of 50% for AWs during 1994, as
gun distributors, dealers, and collectors anticipated that the weapons would become
valuable collectors’ items. Analysis of national and local data on guns recovered by
police showed reductions in criminal use of AWs during 1995 and 1996, suggesting that
rising prices made the weapons less accessible to criminal users in the short-term
aftermath of the ban.
However, the speculative increase in AW prices also prompted a pre-ban boost in
AW production; in 1994, AW manufacturers produced more than twice their average
volume for the 1989-1993 period. The oversupply of grandfathered AWs, the availability
of the AW-type legal substitute models mentioned earlier, and the steady supply of other
non-banned semiautomatics appeared to have saturated the legal market, causing
advertised prices of AWs to fall to nearly pre-speculation levels by late 1995 or early
1996. This combination of excess supply and reduced prices implied that criminal use of
AWs might rise again for some period around 1996, as the large stock of AWs would
begin flowing from dealers’ and speculators’ gun cases to the secondary markets where
ineligible purchasers may obtain guns more easily.
We were not able to gather much specific data about market trends for LCMs.
However, available data did reveal speculative, pre-ban price increases for LCMs that
were comparable to those for AWs (prices for some LCMs continued to climb into 1996),
leading us to speculate – incorrectly, as this study will show (see Chapter 8) – that there
was some reduction in LCM use after the ban.

You can find studies to support whatever side you want to take on the issue, but you are clueless personally and have zero interest in learning anything about it. Instead you'll just find some confirmation bias article and post it like you've solved the problems of the world.

You posted a text wall about gun sales. Thanks for nothing, derp.

[Winehole23]

You posted a text wall about gun sales. Thanks for nothing, derp.reeks of loneliness

[HemisfairArena]

mexican cops(democrats and gutless) in a mexican Texas town filled with democrats(Uvalde) with a mexican school prinicipal(democrat),,,,what can possibly go wrong?,,,and the shooter was a minority as well,,,

[ElNono]

mexican cops(democrats and gutless) in a mexican Texas town filled with democrats(Uvalde) with a mexican school prinicipal(democrat),,,,what can possibly go wrong?,,,and the shooter was a minority as well,,,

Shithole Texas doing shithole Texas things... then blaming somebody else. No surprises ^^^ here

[DMC]

You posted a text wall about gun sales. Thanks for nothing, derp.

You don't read, else you'd have seen the link is to the actual study. If you don't think gun sales is what the ban was about, you're retarded and have no business discussing it.

[Blake]

You don't read, else you'd have seen the link is to the actual study. If you don't think gun sales is what the ban was about, you're retarded and have no business discussing it.

Why did you post a text wall about gun sales then and not just the link only?

You know what, never mind. I'm not gonna take a ride on the derpmc rodeo that leads back to you posting about my bedroom any way.

[ducks]

Why did you post a text wall about gun sales then and not just the link only?

You know what, never mind. I'm not gonna take a ride on the derpmc rodeo that leads back to you posting about my bedroom any way.

Your bedroom is boring nothing hot goes on in there

[DMC]

Why did you post a text wall about gun sales then and not just the link only?

You know what, never mind. I'm not gonna take a ride on the derpmc rodeo that leads back to you posting about my bedroom any way.

I guess the same reason you posted a text wall about Bill Clinton instead of just the link.

You're not capable of discussing anything that doesn't immediately lead to your bail out by having petty bickering contests where you get to call someone derp and cry about your broken life.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC projecting again. His bailout is always turning to his Rolodex.

[Blake]

I guess the same reason you posted a text wall about Bill Clinton instead of just the link.

You're not capable of discussing anything that doesn't immediately lead to your bail out by having petty bickering contests where you get to call someone derp and cry about your broken life.

Lol the DMC rodeo. Nobody wants to discuss anything with you any more except maybe El Nono who is the most patient poster ever.

[Winehole23]

Releasing info piecemeal to burnish the shield or CYA won't cut it. TXDPS got even got caught peddling a lie to a third party report, time to come clean.

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[DMC]

Fart turd, right on cue :lol

Do you two touch tips? Odd how you show up at the same time always.

[Winehole23]

Fart turd, right on cue :lol

Do you two touch tips? Odd how you show up at the same time always.20 hours apart -- practically at the same time!

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC always closely monitoring his enemies.

And lying about them.

The obsession is real.

[Blake]

:lol DMC always closely monitoring his enemies.

And lying about them.

The obsession is real.

Odd how he'll show up at practically the same time to talk gay sex fantasy

[ChumpDumper]

Oooh, he's gonna be triggered by that.

[DMC]

Odd how he'll show up at practically the same time to talk gay sex fantasy

Are they Gay?

[ChumpDumper]

DefensiveManCowers

[DMC]

:lol Chumpy grudge posting for years on ignore.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

[Blake]

Are they Gay?

DMCurious

[Blake]

" An NRA charity planned to raffle an AR-15 at a Texas event. Then Uvalde families protested and the group lost its site..."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/us/hondo-texas-nra-fundraiser/index.html

If it's not wrong before the shooting why is wrong now

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chumpy grudge posting for years on ignore.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

:lmao you admit you take me off ignore all the time

[Winehole23]

Counties lobbying for slightly tougher laws, what say you, spurstalkers?

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[Th'Pusher]

Counties lobbying for slightly tougher laws, what say you, spurstalkers?

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Chopping wood. Unfortunately I don’t think abbot is going to have a receptive ear.

[Blake]

Counties lobbying for slightly tougher laws, what say you, spurstalkers?

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It's a start.

[DMC]

These things get neutered by legalese.

[Winehole23]

These things get neutered by legalese.that's where the teeth are too. the Uvalde shooter waited til he was 18 to get his gear.

[Winehole23]

Former Republican judge on the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals

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[DMC]

Former Republican judge on the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals

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Random association between two things without showing causation. No one ever thought of that.

[DMC]

that's where the teeth are too. the Uvalde shooter waited til he was 18 to get his gear.

That worked out well.

[Winehole23]

That worked out well.if the legal age was 21 it might not have happened at all. rules make a difference.

[Winehole23]

Random association between two things without showing causation. No one ever thought of that.correlation is not causation, but neither does it rule out causation.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbHaaLOUEAAbCuX?format=jpg&name=small

[DMC]

1. Mississippi - 38.82%
2. Louisiana - 33.33%
3. Georgia - 32.06%
4. Maryland - 30.96%
5. South Carolina - 27.28%
6. Alabama - 26.59%
7. Delaware - 23.24%
8. North Carolina - 22.53%
9. Virginia - 20.56%
10. Tennessee - 17.2


Mississippi 28.6
Louisiana 26.3
Wyoming 25.9
Missouri 23.9
Alabama 23.6
Alaska 23.5
New Mexico 22.7
Arkansas 22.6
South Carolina 22
Tennessee 21.3


I'll let you ponder what these two sets represent in your cause vs correlation narrative. Magically you'll pretend there's none here.

[Winehole23]

I wouldn't presume to make your own point for you, or were you just clearing your throat?

[ChumpDumper]

Aw, derp wants to host a little mystery party.

Wh:lolre.

[Winehole23]

(dramatic caesura)

[DMC]

Obviously states listed as 1 and 2 (and other similar states in the top 10) in both categories?

So there's correlation.

For any point someone wants to make, the stats can be presented in ways that seem to support it. If you just say "correlation is not causation, but neither does it rule out causation." then you're basically trying to coax the reader to consider causation, and leave the door open for discussion on causation. I wonder if this is true for all correlation or only the ones that support your narratives?

The bottom set of stats are shooting fatality rate.

[Winehole23]

wonder away, profe

[DMC]

Once again you drop tweets with claims you won't even address. :lol

[Winehole23]

Once again you drop tweets with claims you won't even address. :lolwhat is a bulletin board?

[Winehole23]

denying any connection between lax gun laws and gun violence is a weird hill to die on, but hey, you do you.

[Blake]

denying any connection between lax gun laws and gun violence is a weird hill to die on, but hey, you do you.

there are hundreds of excuses the NRA has come up with for derp to use to deny the connections

[DMC]

denying any connection between lax gun laws and gun violence is a weird hill to die on, but hey, you do you.

It's your correlation, you show causation. I haven't denied anything of the sort.

Are you denying connection between the firearm homicide rate in the states I listed vs the 2nd category where the states are ranked in the top 10 as well, even though you don't know yet what that category is? Do you need to know the category to know if there's causation? Shouldn't the fact that the rankings are the same hint at causation?

[DMC]

there are hundreds of excuses the NRA has come up with for derp to use to deny the connections

The term "connections" has been substituted for "correlations". Correlation doesn't necessarily show connections but your attempt to shift the conversation to one with an already proven point (connection) is noted.

[Blake]

It's your correlation, you show causation. I haven't denied anything of the sort.

Are you denying connection between the firearm homicide rate in the states I listed vs the 2nd category where the states are ranked in the top 10 as well, even though you don't know yet what that category is? Do you need to know the category to know if there's causation? Shouldn't the fact that the rankings are the same hint at causation?

For further study on DMC's NRA arguments, please refer to the crime trend section here:

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/crime-criminal-justice/

Thank you

[Blake]

The term "connections" has been substituted for "correlations". Correlation doesn't necessarily show connections but your attempt to shift the conversation to one with an already proven point (connection) is noted.

cor·re·la·tion
/ˌkôrəˈlāSH(ə)n/

noun
a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.

For further NRA conversation shifts, check this out too:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180810/adventures-in-correlation

[Winehole23]

DMC: *time for some lawyerly parsing

Blake: *drops Merriam-Webster's

[Ef-man]

cor·re·la·tion
/ˌkôrəˈlāSH(ə)n/

noun
a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.

For further NRA conversation shifts, check this out too:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180810/adventures-in-correlation


:lmao

Chuncko getting owned!

[DMC]

cor·re·la·tion
/ˌkôrəˈlāSH(ə)n/

noun
a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.

For further NRA conversation shifts, check this out too:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180810/adventures-in-correlation

Trying to word-fuck the conversation :lol

Correlation indicates a statistical relationship of two sets of data. This can be simply by chance, ergo no connection. So your request to change correlation to connection is denied. You've shown no connection, and it's questionable that you've shown even correlation. What's the other statistic that's being linked to road rage shootings?

When Bob eats breakfast, the sun is always in the east. Ergo the position of the sun is connected to bob eating breakfast.

[Blake]

Trying to word-fuck the conversation :lol

Correlation indicates a statistical relationship of two sets of data.




Are you denying connection between the firearm homicide rate in the states I listed....

DMC just really feels like fucking himself over today more than usual

[DMC]

DMC just really feels like fucking himself over today more than usual

More shit posting without context thus the ellipses instead of the full quote.

What is the true meaning of connection?
1 : the act of connecting : the state of being connected: such as. a : causal or logical relation or sequence

[Blake]

Poor fella

[koriwhat]

Yeah but can BlaKKKe define CUCKOLD though? His picture is right there next to the definition tbh.

[DMC]

Poor fella

You're probably the IRL dumbest poster here.

[Blake]

You're probably the IRL dumbest poster here.

Lol I can see the seething thru the screen. Now talk about my personal life. Go.

[Ef-man]

Lol I can see the seething thru the screen. Now talk about my personal life. Go.

:lmao

[koriwhat]

You're probably the IRL dumbest poster here.

There's no doubt about it bro. He's a fucking reject!

[Th'Pusher]

DMC loves to get super precise and pedantic particularly when it comes to muh guns.

The wannabe internet lawyer of ST strikes again!

[koriwhat]

"Now talk about my personal life. Go."

You're such a bitch BlaKKKe you think you got the upper hand. :lmao

[Blake]

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list.
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Remove user from ignore list

I'm gonna bet that tats who claims is ignoring me is talking all about me

[Winehole23]

Abbott gives Uvalde parents the finger

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[DMC]

DMC loves to get super precise and pedantic particularly when it comes to muh guns.

The wannabe internet lawyer of ST strikes again!

Unlike you who's so sloppy it's a wonder you found the birth canal.

[koriwhat]

Abbott gives Uvalde parents the finger

You truly are one dumb motherfucker.

[Blake]

CNN)A 4-year-old took a loaded handgun Wednesday to his South Texas elementary school, and his father has been arrested after the incident prompted a lockdown, officials said.

School administrators at John F. Kennedy Elementary School in Corpus Christi learned a student had a weapon on campus around 9 a.m., according to a letter sent to parents from West Oso Independent School District Superintendent Conrado Garcia.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/us/child-gun-to-school-texas/index.html

Good kid with gun just trying to protect his class

[DMC]

You truly are one dumb motherfucker.

They all want to be spin machines, LARPing as talking heads.

[DMC]

CNN)A 4-year-old took a loaded handgun Wednesday to his South Texas elementary school, and his father has been arrested after the incident prompted a lockdown, officials said.

School administrators at John F. Kennedy Elementary School in Corpus Christi learned a student had a weapon on campus around 9 a.m., according to a letter sent to parents from West Oso Independent School District Superintendent Conrado Garcia.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/us/child-gun-to-school-texas/index.html

Good kid with gun just trying to protect his class

The obvious solution, as the left here has pointed out, is to raise the legal age to purchase.

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

1567241099072208897

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Sad that had to be actually written into policy

[Winehole23]

Sad that had to be actually written into policyI can think of one poster itt who argued that LE isn't and shouldn't be required to face active shooters.

[Winehole23]

91 Texas state troopers responded to the Uvalde massacre. Their bosses have deflected scrutiny and blame.
State troopers outnumbered local law enforcement 2-to-1 outside Robb Elementary, but the Department of Public Safety has blocked the release of records and carefully shaped the narrative to cast local authorities as incompetent.



The state police agency is tasked with helping all of Texas’ 254 counties respond to emergencies such as mass shootings, but it is particularly important in rural communities where smaller police departments lack the level of training and experience of larger metropolitan law enforcement agencies, experts say. That was the case in Uvalde, where the state agency’s 91 troopers at the scene dwarfed the school district’s five officers, the city police’s 25 emergency responders and the county’s 16 sheriff’s deputies.


The state police agency has been “totally intransparent in pointing out their own failures and inadequacies,” said Charles A. McClelland, who served as Houston police chief for six years before retiring in 2016. “I don’t know how the public, even in the state of Texas, would have confidence in the leadership of DPS after this.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/06/texas-state-police-uvalde-shooting/

[Winehole23]

Instead of taking charge when it became clear that neither the school’s police chief nor the Uvalde Police Department had assumed command, DPS contributed to the 74-minute chaotic response that did not end until a Border Patrol tactical unit that arrived much later entered the classroom and killed the gunman.


“Here’s what DPS should have done as soon as they got there,” said Patrick O’Burke, a law enforcement consultant and former DPS commander who retired in 2008. “They should have contacted [the school police chief] and said: ‘We’re here. We have people.’ They should have just organized everything, said, ‘What are all of our resources?’ And they should have organized the breach.”

[Winehole23]

Instead, they waited around with their thumbs up their asses for an hour until Joe Biden's federal officers took charge and ended it.

[baseline bum]

Abbott gives Uvalde parents the finger

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They voted for him and probably will again anyways

[Winehole23]

100% CYA

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[Blake]

Nice baby step forward here:

".....

All purchases made with credit cards are categorized with what's called a "merchant code" – a special code assigned to various types of businesses like utility companies, grocery stores, gas stations, airlines, hotels. And, for years, gun shops have been categorized as miscellaneous retail or sporting goods stores.....


....Now, after a Democrat-supported effort led by the socially progressive bank Amalgamated Bank, gun stores will have a separate code.

But experts say it's unclear what impact the new policy will actually have, if any, on gun violence.

Jeffrey Fagan, a law professor at Columbia University who researches the effects of gun policy, said the measure could reduce gun violence "at the margins."

"As a nation, we keep track of sales of dynamite and other dangerous products that can cause death. This policy is in line with that thinking," he said...."

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123059843/credit-card-code-gun-sales-visa-mastercard-american-exrpess

[DMC]

So unclear what effect if any.. but a nice baby step forward?

:lol

Great example of how the left just wants to feel better about it, not actually to do anything effective.

[Blake]

Yeah, it's a small drop in the bucket. Better than nothing. Way behind where we should be. You ok now?

[CosmicCowboy]

Nice baby step forward here:

".....

All purchases made with credit cards are categorized with what's called a "merchant code" – a special code assigned to various types of businesses like utility companies, grocery stores, gas stations, airlines, hotels. And, for years, gun shops have been categorized as miscellaneous retail or sporting goods stores.....


....Now, after a Democrat-supported effort led by the socially progressive bank Amalgamated Bank, gun stores will have a separate code.

But experts say it's unclear what impact the new policy will actually have, if any, on gun violence.

Jeffrey Fagan, a law professor at Columbia University who researches the effects of gun policy, said the measure could reduce gun violence "at the margins."

"As a nation, we keep track of sales of dynamite and other dangerous products that can cause death. This policy is in line with that thinking," he said...."

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123059843/credit-card-code-gun-sales-visa-mastercard-american-exrpess

Academy probably sells more guns than anyone else in Texas. What will their code be?

[Blake]

Academy probably sells more guns than anyone else in Texas. What will their code be?

Walmart and Dick's Sporting Goods, which both allow gun sales at some of their U.S. stores, did not respond to requests for comment Monday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/12/gun-law-advocates-hail-credit-card-code-as-way-to-cut-down-suspicious-sales.html

[Blake]

Sounds like they'll be under that code

[DMC]

Yeah, it's a small drop in the bucket. Better than nothing. Way behind where we should be. You ok now?

It's nothing of the sort, when the effect is unknown. Right now it's a feel good comment. Obviously I am not the one who needs attending to since I'm not here lauding random legislation with unknown effects as a step in the right direction. It might not be better than nothing, other than your feelings tbh.

[Blake]

It's nothing of the sort, when the effect is unknown. Right now it's a feel good comment. Obviously I am not the one who needs attending to since I'm not here lauding random legislation with unknown effects as a step in the right direction. It might not be better than nothing, other than your feelings tbh.

No downside, possible upside. Yeah that's about it. Anything else you want to get off your chest here?

[TSA]

No downside, possible upside. Yeah that's about it. Anything else you want to get off your chest here?

What's the upside? Serious question.

[Blake]

What's the upside? Serious question.

"Today's announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them to law enforcement," said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control advocacy group, in a statement last week.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123059843/credit-card-code-gun-sales-visa-mastercard-american-exrpess

[TSA]

"Today's announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them to law enforcement," said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control advocacy group, in a statement last week.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123059843/credit-card-code-gun-sales-visa-mastercard-american-exrpess

Credit card companies aren't going to get an itemized receipt from the store. What's the upside?

[DMC]

Credit card companies aren't going to get an itemized receipt from the store. What's the upside?

Move in the right direction feelings

[Blake]

Credit card companies aren't going to get an itemized receipt from the store. What's the upside?

They can report large purchases to law enforcement. Law enforcement can then decide if they want to go ask the store for the itemized receipt. This isn't hard to figure out. Keep trying, nut.

[DMC]

They can report large purchases to law enforcement. Law enforcement can then decide if they want to go ask the store for the itemized receipt. This isn't hard to figure out. Keep trying, nut.

So if you buy a grill and weight set at Academy, the ATF is going to go ask Academy for an itemized receipt?

:lol

[Blake]

So if you buy a grill and weight set at Academy, the ATF is going to go ask Academy for an itemized receipt?

:lol

Do you think that's what will happen?

[DMC]

Do you think that's what will happen?

Do you think that won't happen? Be specific, yes or no?

[Blake]

Do you think that won't happen? Be specific, yes or no?

No. Do you?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ideally we would have a national registry of weapons so they wouldn't have to try and track illegal arms sales through backdoor means. Bullshit hypotheticals aside if a violent felon, problematically mentally ill person, or domestic abuser makes that type of purchase what is wrong with law enforcement making sure it is not a firearm.

What is so stupid abut this whole thing is that local conservatives are all out for ID and registration to vote, a much better defined constitutional right, but balk at the idea of a national registry for guns where there is unquestionably an issue with illegal sales.

[DMC]

Ideally we would have a national registry of weapons so they wouldn't have to try and track illegal arms sales through backdoor means. Bullshit hypotheticals aside if a violent felon, problematically mentally ill person, or domestic abuser makes that type of purchase what is wrong with law enforcement making sure it is not a firearm.

What is so stupid abut this whole thing is that local conservatives are all out for ID and registration to vote, a much better defined constitutional right, but balk at the idea of a national registry for guns where there is unquestionably an issue with illegal sales.

There's a reason a national registry is outlawed. State registries are legal. You should push for that 1st.

[DMC]

No. Do you?

Then you think it will happen? Yes or no.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There's a reason a national registry is outlawed. State registries are legal. You should push for that 1st.

This is another dumbed down take. The background check law says it cannot be used to create a registry but there is already a national registry for automatic weapons. It is not unconstitutional as evidenced by said registry and all it takes is new legislation to change the status quo.

[Blake]

Then you think it will happen? Yes or no.

I just answered this question. What's wrong with you?

[DMC]

Do you think that won't happen? Be specific, yes or no?


No. Do you?


Then you think it will happen? Yes or no.


I just answered this question. What's wrong with you?
:lol

Low IQ

[DMC]

This is another dumbed down take. The background check law says it cannot be used to create a registry but there is already a national registry for automatic weapons. It is not unconstitutional as evidenced by said registry and all it takes is new legislation to change the status quo.

Existing law does not indicate constitutionality, otherwise all laws are constitutional. We know that to not be the case.

Regardless, legislation is all that is needed to do a whole heap of shit that won't get done. "all it takes" :lol Hell you could do away with the BoR with enough congressional votes.

This doesn't even begin to address the efficacy of a registry. There are states with gun registries, do they rise above the statistical noise in efficacy?

Rate vs gun related homicides rate

NY 5 gun related homicides - requires gun registration
Mass 3 gun related homicides - neither requires nor prohibits gun registration

Nah

[Ef-man]

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Chuncko bloviating and editing like a thirsty motherfucker.

PS
State------------------Population
Massachusetts-------7,126,375
New York------------20,365,879

[DMC]

Last edited by DMC; 5 Minutes Ago at 10:38 PM.

Chuncko bloviating and editing like a thirsty motherfucker.

PS
State------------------Population
Massachusetts-------7,126,375
New York------------20,365,879
"rate"

You stupid motherfucker :lol

I even said it twice :lol

rEmF-man

[Ef-man]

"rate"

You stupid motherfucker :lol

I even said it twice :lol

rEmF-man

If you knew better, you would have kept your mouth shut.

New York has almost three times the population of Massachusetts.

Per capita, New York’s gun related homicide rate is way less than Massachusetts’, idiot.

Go sulk some more.

[Ef-man]

This site even says the gun homicide rates in both states are the same, so your stats are shit.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Existing law does not indicate constitutionality, otherwise all laws are constitutional. We know that to not be the case.

Regardless, legislation is all that is needed to do a whole heap of shit that won't get done. "all it takes" :lol Hell you could do away with the BoR with enough congressional votes.

This doesn't even begin to address the efficacy of a registry. There are states with gun registries, do they rise above the statistical noise in efficacy?

Rate vs gun related homicides rate

NY 5 gun related homicides - requires gun registration
Mass 3 gun related homicides - neither requires nor prohibits gun registration

Nah

You said that federal gun registries were illegal. You were wrong.

[Blake]

:lol

Low IQ

:lol you tried to be clever, confused yourself with your own question and had to ask again. :lol

It won't happen. You good now? Do you think it will happen?

[DMC]

You said that federal gun registries were illegal. You were wrong.
FOPA

Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions. Requires a 90-day public comment period for proposed regulations.

NFA weapons are grandfathered exceptions to the machine gun ban. There have been no new subguns since 1986 added to this "registry". The ATF only tracks transfers of grandfathered auto-sears. In each instance the registration is as an exception. So for a national registry to exist for non-NFA weapons, guns would first have to be banned, then exceptions made on a case by case basis. This is where the registry would make sense.

So unless you want to say the FOPA doesn't prohibit the establishment of a national firearm registry, then you're just being obtuse. Pretty sure your gripe about firearms isn't that too many unregistered subguns exist, plus you said a national registry should exist, so if you think one already exists, wtf are you talking about?

This is why I have to dumb shit down.

[DMC]

:lol you tried to be clever, confused yourself with your own question and had to ask again. :lol

It won't happen. You good now? Do you think it will happen?

Without itemized receipts, any large purchase would have to flag. Unless the only large purchase you can imagine is firearms, then there would be a lot of false positives. You'd need another system that doesn't rely solely on the value of the purchase unless you want to tie up resources chasing down lawn furniture and fishing gear.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

FOPA

Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions. Requires a 90-day public comment period for proposed regulations.

NFA weapons are grandfathered exceptions to the machine gun ban. There have been no new subguns since 1986 added to this "registry". The ATF only tracks transfers of grandfathered auto-sears. In each instance the registration is as an exception. So for a national registry to exist for non-NFA weapons, guns would first have to be banned, then exceptions made on a case by case basis. This is where the registry would make sense.

So unless you want to say the FOPA doesn't prohibit the establishment of a national firearm registry, then you're just being obtuse. Pretty sure your gripe about firearms isn't that too many unregistered subguns exist, plus you said a national registry should exist, so if you think one already exists, wtf are you talking about?

This is why I have to dumb shit down.

Would it take more than a bill passed by congress to create a national registry?